1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and buck 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:08,440 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Ooh, Welcome in Clay Travis buck Sexton 3 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 1: Show Wednesday edition of the program. We hope that all 4 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 1: of you are having a fantastic start to your day, 5 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 1: and we've got a lot of. 6 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:20,959 Speaker 2: Topics to discuss. 7 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:24,520 Speaker 1: Kevin McCarthy has announced just in the last what hour 8 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 1: or so that he is going to be leaving Congress. 9 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:31,320 Speaker 1: He was the Speaker of the House, he was removed, 10 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:35,919 Speaker 1: and now he is going to be leaving Congress. So 11 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:39,520 Speaker 1: we will see what exactly the future has for him, 12 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:43,239 Speaker 1: whether there's anything in the political universe, but certainly the 13 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:47,680 Speaker 1: overall majority of Republicans in the House, given that Santos 14 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:50,920 Speaker 1: has been voted out, continues to decline and make doing 15 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:56,400 Speaker 1: anything difficult. The fourth Republican debate and potentially the final 16 00:00:56,440 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 1: debate of the primary season, if Chris Christy with Vivek Ramaswami, 17 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 1: with Nicky Haley, and with Ron DeSantis on the stage, 18 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:10,400 Speaker 1: will be tonight on News Nation, I believe is the station, 19 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 1: And to be fair, Buck, I'm gonna have to look 20 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 1: and see if I even have News Nation to see 21 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 1: whether or not I can even watch this thing, And 22 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 1: I know a lot of you are going to be 23 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 1: running around because it's a holiday season. I've got a 24 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 1: holiday party to go to too, so I might have 25 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:28,839 Speaker 1: to DVR this thing. But I bet the viewership, given 26 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:30,480 Speaker 1: the fact that it's going to be hard to find 27 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:34,039 Speaker 1: for many people and this network is, and also the 28 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 1: fact that it's happening in the middle of the holiday season, 29 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 1: is going to mean that it is substantially lower viewership. 30 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:44,280 Speaker 1: Then I bet fewer people watch this than watch DeSantis 31 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 1: Newsom last week in what was the big time throw 32 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 1: down there. But we've got a lot to get into. 33 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 1: Riley Gaines testified about transgender participation in sports. There's some 34 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 1: great clips that we want to dive into. Will break 35 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 1: down the fourth of the debates and see whether or 36 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 1: not we think there's any significance or anyone has anything 37 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 1: in particular to gain as we try to determine who 38 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 1: might be the alternative to Donald Trump in the sense 39 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 1: that we're ever gonna get down. 40 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:18,520 Speaker 2: To a second alternative. 41 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 1: But Buck, I want to play some audio from a 42 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:27,240 Speaker 1: hearing yesterday that involved many of the presidents of the 43 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:31,520 Speaker 1: so called most elite universities in the country. Testifying about 44 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 1: anti semitism on campus. And if you haven't heard these clips, 45 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 1: I think it's kind of staggering, and I've got several 46 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:43,680 Speaker 1: different thoughts on it. I bet you do too, Buck. 47 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 1: But here, let's go ahead and play cut five. This 48 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:51,679 Speaker 1: is at least stephonic shaming college presidents. 49 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:53,640 Speaker 2: Just listen to this audio. 50 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:56,960 Speaker 1: I think if you haven't heard it already, your jaw 51 00:02:57,000 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 1: may well drop. 52 00:02:57,840 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 2: Listen. 53 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 3: So is your TESTI mony that you will not answer. 54 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 4: Yes if it is yes or no. If the speech 55 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 4: becomes conduct, it can be harassment. 56 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 3: Yes, conduct meaning committing the act of genocide. The speech 57 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:15,639 Speaker 3: is not harassment. This is unacceptable, mismagil and doctor gay 58 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 3: at Harvard. Does calling for the genocide of Jews violate 59 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 3: Harvard's rules of bullying and harassment? 60 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 2: Yes? 61 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 4: Or no? It can be depending on the context. 62 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 3: What's the context? 63 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 4: Targeted as an individual. 64 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:33,520 Speaker 3: It's targeted at Jewish students, Jewish individuals. Do you understand 65 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 3: your testimony is dehumanizing them? Do you understand that dehumanization 66 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 3: is part of anti Semitism? I will ask you one 67 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 3: more time. Calling for the genocide of Jews violates Harvard 68 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:47,119 Speaker 3: Code of Conduct. 69 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:50,120 Speaker 4: Correct again? It depends on the context. 70 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 3: It does not depend on the context. The answer is yes, 71 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 3: and this is why you should resign. These are unacceptable 72 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 3: answers across the board. 73 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 1: Okay, boy gay Clay, Yeah, so so much. 74 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:10,559 Speaker 5: Here university presidents have discovered First Amendment absolutism and context 75 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 5: and nuance and all of these different really important things 76 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:17,479 Speaker 5: that make it hard to give clear answers and tell 77 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:18,920 Speaker 5: people what's really going on here. 78 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 2: Let me just there's a few ways. 79 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 5: We could run this experiment to get to the real answers. 80 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:29,840 Speaker 5: One is imagine for a moment that we weren't We 81 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 5: weren't in the midst of this situation of Israel and 82 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 5: Hamas and the Palestinians and Gaza and all the anti 83 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 5: Semitism is going on under just normal times. If you 84 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:41,839 Speaker 5: had the president of Harvard or the president of UPenn 85 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 5: or any of these schools, and you said, there just 86 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:49,359 Speaker 5: calling for the genocide of filling the blood, calling for 87 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:52,600 Speaker 5: the genocide of Native Americans. Yes, I know, they'd say, well, 88 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 5: that already happened a long time ago, but I mean 89 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:57,920 Speaker 5: calling for it today. Would that be a violation of 90 00:04:57,960 --> 00:04:59,720 Speaker 5: your code of conduct at the school. 91 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:02,560 Speaker 2: Every single university presidence. 92 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:05,040 Speaker 5: Not only would they be saying yes, of course, but 93 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 5: they would get indignant and very outraged at the suggestion 94 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 5: that anybody could say that and get away with it, 95 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 5: and notice on this issue because they have little pro 96 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 5: hamas lunatics running around their campuses, and because a lot 97 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 5: of the elite schools have taken huge sums of money 98 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 5: over the last ten or fifteen years from Gulf countries, 99 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:30,360 Speaker 5: from the Saudis, from the Amoradis. 100 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 2: That's a whole other part of this. 101 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:34,360 Speaker 5: All of a suddenly they're saying it all depends on 102 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 5: the context. No outrage, no anger at the question, no 103 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:41,360 Speaker 5: anger at the notion that people would be calling for genocide. 104 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 2: I think we all see exactly what's going on here. 105 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:47,480 Speaker 1: Well, I think what Jewish people are learning is they're 106 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:51,839 Speaker 1: basically seen as white people, and there is no protection 107 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 1: for anti white speech on campus. In fact, it's actually encouraged. 108 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 1: And I look, I am a free speech absolute. 109 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 5: Could I just throw something down because I think it's 110 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 5: important club what you're saying, I would have to throw 111 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 5: in the proviso for a protected group. Yeah, what would 112 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:12,359 Speaker 5: the university president say? But to your point, if you 113 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 5: were again take it out of the context of this hearing, 114 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:17,279 Speaker 5: but under normal times, if you asked the president of 115 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:20,920 Speaker 5: Harvard should would you be able to say that there 116 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 5: should be a the destruction of whiteness is a worthy 117 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 5: goal in America? They would all say, yeah, that's covered 118 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 5: by free speech, correct. I mean, I am a free 119 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:34,360 Speaker 5: speech absolutist. So if they were going to apply this 120 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:38,719 Speaker 5: policy evenly to all speech, then I would say, okay, 121 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:41,680 Speaker 5: that I understand the concept, right. But let me just 122 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:42,600 Speaker 5: give you an example. 123 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:47,159 Speaker 1: In the immediate aftermath of George Floyd's the video that 124 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 1: went viral, if any of these elite college presidents had 125 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 1: had students march on their campus saying that police needed 126 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:02,799 Speaker 1: to kill more black people, that they were in favor 127 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 1: of police killing more black people all over America, that 128 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 1: was the march, right, Because when you're calling for genocide, 129 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 1: you are calling for the actual elimination of an entire 130 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 1: race of people. 131 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 2: So if you had had many students. 132 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 1: Decide that they were going to walk through Yale's campus, 133 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 1: Harvard's campus, Columbia's campus, MIT's campus, all these different university presidents, 134 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 1: Harvard's campus, but I didn't say it. If you had 135 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 1: had a student group organized and walking through basically a 136 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 1: modern day KKK. Let's say, would they let the KKK 137 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 1: organize on any of these campuses and would students be 138 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 1: allowed to march through campus demanding the murder of black 139 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 1: black people all over the country and supporting the police 140 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 1: killing black people. The answer is no, they would never 141 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 1: allow this, and I think theybuck would find any student 142 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 1: that was involved and they would immediately kick them out 143 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 1: of campus. I fail to see from a purely free 144 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 1: speech analysis, how you can distinguish between that and someone 145 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 1: walking through a campus arguing for the genocide. 146 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 2: Of Jewish people. 147 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 1: And if you can't distinguish between the two, then really 148 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 1: what should happen is these university presidents, I think, should 149 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:33,720 Speaker 1: have to answer for why their speech protections fluctuate depending 150 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 1: on who is being attacked and or who is speaking, 151 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:40,199 Speaker 1: because that is not a commitment to free speech principles, 152 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:43,840 Speaker 1: that is a context determinant endorsement of speech. 153 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 2: I do think it's. 154 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:49,959 Speaker 5: Really interesting as well to see that there's a lot 155 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 5: of expectation in this country of racial solidarity from minorities 156 00:08:57,320 --> 00:09:01,439 Speaker 5: with the Palestinians, and they're fascinating and not with the 157 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 5: Jewish people. You have faced multi Jewish people are seen 158 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 5: You're right, one hundred percent that they're seen as white, 159 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 5: and they're learning that. This is my point is that 160 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:14,720 Speaker 5: is that the it's a skin color issue, truly a 161 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 5: skin color issue that ignores the fact that there are 162 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 5: a lot of Jews who are you know, you would 163 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 5: not know that they are not white, or they're you know, 164 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:25,200 Speaker 5: they're Middle Eastern or they're Ethiopian. I mean, but I 165 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:27,560 Speaker 5: keep going back to that, and it doesn't even in 166 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 5: this context. They're ignorance. We just take their ignorance for 167 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:32,240 Speaker 5: granted at some level on this right, they don't know 168 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 5: these kids marching around the White House interns, which we'll 169 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 5: talk about maybe in a minute. They don't even understand 170 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:43,680 Speaker 5: the real racial dynamics of Israel and the West Bank 171 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:47,199 Speaker 5: and the Gaza strip. But you can tell that there 172 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 5: is this expectation of racial solidarity to the Palestinians who 173 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:56,360 Speaker 5: are considered brown, right, this is the perception I'm talking about, 174 00:09:56,360 --> 00:10:00,160 Speaker 5: perception the brown Palestinians must have the solidarity of black 175 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:03,439 Speaker 5: brown people in the West. That is how the left 176 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:06,679 Speaker 5: views this. They don't even get too deep into Muslim 177 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:10,680 Speaker 5: Jewish that that's actually a secondary level of analysis for them, 178 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 5: and you see that that is, you know, in this country, 179 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:18,960 Speaker 5: the the sort of toxicity of racial politics has now 180 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 5: become such that it extends into other you know, other 181 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:25,200 Speaker 5: analysis and other things where you would think it wouldn't 182 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 5: be the primary issue, but now it is. Now now 183 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 5: all of a sudden raised Trump's religion in the oppression 184 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:34,560 Speaker 5: situation or you know, the way they gave oppression by 185 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 5: the way, Sonny Houston, not a surprise at all. 186 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:39,640 Speaker 2: Of course, Sonny at the. 187 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 5: View expressing her her view, pardon me on this one, 188 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 5: your solidarity I bet with the university press. 189 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 2: It's funny play you say that. 190 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:52,320 Speaker 5: I was just thinking, I just see that we have 191 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 5: a cut from Sunny hostin on the View, and why 192 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:57,560 Speaker 5: is it that I know that she's going to be 193 00:10:57,640 --> 00:11:02,600 Speaker 5: defending the university press. It is who are taking a 194 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:05,559 Speaker 5: very different approach to leave the space open on their 195 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:10,440 Speaker 5: campuses so that hamas apologist maniacs can spew their anti 196 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:11,960 Speaker 5: Semitism as much as they want. 197 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 2: We know this because well we know how they roll 198 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:16,240 Speaker 2: over at the View. This is cut eight play it. 199 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:18,839 Speaker 6: So when we're talking about this one on one type 200 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:22,080 Speaker 6: of thing, yes, that is when that conduct leads to 201 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:25,920 Speaker 6: harassment and could be actionable by the university. And that's 202 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:27,439 Speaker 6: exactly what hard has. 203 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:29,959 Speaker 3: It said you have to commit genocide to be able 204 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 3: to condemn genocidal language like that's a. 205 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 4: That's a dangerous slippery. 206 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 6: So yeah, but again, use of that type of example 207 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 6: is really inflammatory and it does actual used on college campus, 208 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 6: it dissorts. 209 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:43,719 Speaker 4: What the law is. 210 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 6: The law protects that kind of language, and in my opinion, 211 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 6: in my opinion, college is the perfect place to have 212 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 6: these sorts of uncomfortable conversations, even the English students. The 213 00:11:57,840 --> 00:12:01,840 Speaker 6: ACLU said that the Supreme Court cannot prevent speech that 214 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 6: is likely to provide a hostile response. 215 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 3: I said this, on any other community on Earth other 216 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 3: than Jews, I would be canceled ten. 217 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 4: Times to Sunday. 218 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 1: Yes, Yes, that's was that, Alyssa par A Griffin to 219 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 1: her credit, correct, Look, you can't have shifting speech rights 220 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 1: based on but that's a speaker is. 221 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:22,080 Speaker 5: But that's what they It's exactly that's exactly what we 222 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:24,480 Speaker 5: see here, and it couldn't be any more apparent. You know, 223 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 5: all of a sudden, All of a sudden, you have, 224 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 5: particularly people in the media who view this again as 225 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 5: I say, as a as an issue of with the 226 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 5: Palestinians racial solidarity, because racial oppression is their obsession in 227 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:43,160 Speaker 5: this country, so they think that that should be the use, 228 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 5: that that is the obsession around the whole world, and 229 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 5: that's the way to view every conflict. They're they're making 230 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 5: these claims. I mean, it's laughable, Clay, what do you 231 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:54,080 Speaker 5: think the president of Harvard. These are the people who 232 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 5: say silence equals violence, never mind speech equals violence. And 233 00:12:57,920 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 5: by silence equals violence, they mean you have to take 234 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 5: our position or. 235 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 2: Else you're literally killing us. 236 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:07,960 Speaker 1: Micro Aggressions has been a major topic of discussion on 237 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 1: college campuses, not actual aggressions, small things that occur that 238 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 1: could lead people to have hurt feelings, and then people 239 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 1: walking through campus calling for genocide. Is suddenly where they decide, oh, 240 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 1: we're going to have to protect free speech principles again. 241 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:24,160 Speaker 1: If they did this for everything and everyone, I would 242 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:27,320 Speaker 1: That's that's my position, right, You should, even though I 243 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 1: disagree with it, be able to say on college campuses 244 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 1: things that are inflammatory and offensive and not worry that 245 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 1: you're going to get canceled if you're a teacher, not 246 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:39,680 Speaker 1: worried if you're gonna get canceled if you're a student. 247 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:39,959 Speaker 2: Right. 248 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:44,040 Speaker 1: But all of a sudden to only allow these things 249 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:47,680 Speaker 1: to be said about Jewish people shows you that how 250 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:50,560 Speaker 1: broken much of our national conversation tree. 251 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 2: And this is I think this is a this is 252 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 2: the part of this is the wake up call. You know. 253 00:13:56,480 --> 00:13:57,079 Speaker 2: I'm down here. 254 00:13:57,160 --> 00:13:59,679 Speaker 5: Most of my friends in South and South Florida are 255 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:02,280 Speaker 5: are Jewish, and they're conservative. 256 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:03,880 Speaker 2: None of this is really a wake up call for them. 257 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:05,080 Speaker 2: They expected all of this. 258 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:07,360 Speaker 5: And but for some of the and I have some 259 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:09,280 Speaker 5: liberal Jewish friends down here too, the part of this 260 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:12,000 Speaker 5: that's a wake up call for them is that despite 261 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:18,960 Speaker 5: the history of oppression and an actual genocide and the 262 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:21,960 Speaker 5: most vile kinds of targeting of a group of people 263 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 5: for you know, immutable characteristics or for their religious faith, 264 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 5: which the Jews have been through going back to the 265 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:30,080 Speaker 5: time of Pharaoh, right, I mean you go back thousands 266 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:34,480 Speaker 5: of years, despite all of that, in the contemporary left 267 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 5: wing conversation, they are white, and so they are the 268 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 5: bad guys in this context, and everything else is irrelevant 269 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 5: to the American left and much of the European left, 270 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 5: and the same thing, white equals oppressor, jew equals white. 271 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 5: That is how they view the whole conflict, even those 272 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:54,640 Speaker 5: we've discussed. I mean, that's it's not accurate, it's crazy, 273 00:14:54,680 --> 00:14:57,480 Speaker 5: but that's the whole thing for them, comes down to 274 00:14:57,960 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 5: that kind of comparison. 275 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 1: Also, the other thing I would add, and we got 276 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 1: to go to break We'll take some of your calls 277 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 1: eight hundred and two A two two eight a two. 278 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:07,520 Speaker 2: It's not even just that two buck. 279 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:11,680 Speaker 1: It's that many of these Jewish groups fought hard on 280 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 1: behalf of BLM and all of these other supposedly oppressed 281 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 1: minority groups because they thought they were in solidarity together. 282 00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 2: And I think it was a. 283 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 1: Wildly eye opening experience to suddenly see BLM groups praising 284 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 1: the paragliders who came into a ray even murdered tons 285 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:36,280 Speaker 1: of innocent people. 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Clay is going 327 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:46,479 Speaker 5: to break all that down for us now. But I've realized, 328 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:50,160 Speaker 5: demanding a ceasefire is the new Ukraine flag in your bio, right. 329 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:52,480 Speaker 5: This is the thing that people who know nothing do 330 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:54,879 Speaker 5: to pretend that they know something and are good people. 331 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 5: That's what's going on, demanding a ceasefire. I'm sure Nenyahu's 332 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:01,960 Speaker 5: paying close attention. We'll get into that. 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NEWAI project dot com paid for by Brownstone Research. 353 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:05,000 Speaker 1: Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton show, we played 354 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:11,399 Speaker 1: for you the university response to actual calls for genocide 355 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 1: from students and student groups and a variety of different 356 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 1: people affiliated with the university. And I think that's been 357 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:21,400 Speaker 1: very eye opening for a lot of people, and it's 358 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:25,400 Speaker 1: not just on university campuses. Certainly, this is a position 359 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:30,480 Speaker 1: that has been that that is solidarity with the Palestinian community, 360 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 1: even in the wake of a terror attack. This has 361 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:36,560 Speaker 1: been a position that's become quite common in many young 362 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:40,160 Speaker 1: people all over America, whether you're in college, whether you're 363 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:43,679 Speaker 1: just active on TikTok, which while everybody wants to focus 364 00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:48,119 Speaker 1: on anti Semitism associated with Emon Musk and the Twitter platform, 365 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:53,680 Speaker 1: TikTok for substantial periods of time had four times as 366 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:58,520 Speaker 1: many pro Palestinian viral videos as they did pro Israel. 367 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:02,199 Speaker 1: And now Joe Biden, as we have been talking with 368 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:05,560 Speaker 1: you for a couple of months now, is finding himself 369 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:11,360 Speaker 1: in a really difficult political setup where both Jews and 370 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:18,639 Speaker 1: Arabs historically vote Democrat by fairly substantial margins thirty forty 371 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 1: points seventy thirty sixty five to thirty five something in 372 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 1: that neighborhood, and he's trying to make both of these 373 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:32,240 Speaker 1: groups happy, and overwhelmingly young people and the left wing 374 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:34,879 Speaker 1: of the Democrat Party are demanding that Israel not defend 375 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:38,120 Speaker 1: itself anymore and that there be a permanent ceasefire put 376 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:42,680 Speaker 1: in place, rather than Israel be allowed to root out 377 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:46,560 Speaker 1: all of the terrorists and in them, and so in 378 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 1: the White House itself. Now, the White House interns. Now, 379 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:54,360 Speaker 1: I'm not sure how many people there are who are 380 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 1: White House interns, but for most of you out there, 381 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:00,240 Speaker 1: I think when you hear White House interns, and the 382 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 1: first thing that comes to mind is Monica Lewinsky. But 383 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 1: even leaving aside the fact that you are a White 384 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:14,000 Speaker 1: House intern, the idea that any intern would ever try 385 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:18,480 Speaker 1: to put political pressure on their boss to make a 386 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:22,960 Speaker 1: decision that the boss is not otherwise making is so 387 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:25,680 Speaker 1: crazy to me to even think about. I was an 388 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 1: intern back in the day on Capitol Hill, in the 389 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:32,359 Speaker 1: Nashville Congressman's office, Bob Klement's office, when I was a 390 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:36,480 Speaker 1: student at George Washington University. Buck you worked as an intern, 391 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 1: maybe multiple places when you were a kid coming up. 392 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:45,240 Speaker 2: Think tanks, the Council on Foreign Relations, the Washington Institute 393 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:49,440 Speaker 2: for Neary's Policy, and interns were meant to be seen 394 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 2: rarely and never heard. Nobody cared. 395 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 1: Can you imagine even thinking as an intern that you 396 00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:01,280 Speaker 1: were going to write an anonymous letter on any subject 397 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:06,160 Speaker 1: under the sun, holding your boss accountable for some decision 398 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:08,320 Speaker 1: that he or she was making. I think it's so 399 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:12,639 Speaker 1: absurdly ridiculous to me that anyone would even think to 400 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:15,000 Speaker 1: do this. And again they're anonymous, so they're not even 401 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:18,439 Speaker 1: putting their own names behind this. But that the interns 402 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:21,600 Speaker 1: would try to bully the president of the United States 403 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:24,479 Speaker 1: because they don't like a choice that he's making is 404 00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 1: so crazy to me. I can't even conceptualize even thinking 405 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:31,919 Speaker 1: of doing it when I was an intern twenty some 406 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 1: odd years ago on Capitol Hill. 407 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:35,400 Speaker 2: Yeah. 408 00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:39,200 Speaker 5: I also always want to push to the next step here. 409 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:43,680 Speaker 5: Whenever someone says, whether it's these idiot interns or others, 410 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 5: when they start doing this demand the ceasefire, I always 411 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:51,679 Speaker 5: want to know, Okay, what then? I'm mean a ceasefire 412 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:55,240 Speaker 5: is supposed to be temporary, right, there's not a long 413 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:58,280 Speaker 5: term trucer or or misstice here. This is just going 414 00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:00,960 Speaker 5: to stop the shooting for. How long does Hamask get 415 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 5: to get away with this? Is that what they mean? 416 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:05,479 Speaker 5: Does Israel not get to defend itself? Is that what 417 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:10,359 Speaker 5: they mean? They never get into specifics because you know, 418 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:17,880 Speaker 5: unfortunately there is still this very common tactic where the 419 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:21,240 Speaker 5: problem is not the terrorism, the problem is the fighting 420 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:23,960 Speaker 5: against the terrorism. I remember this from al Qaeda era. 421 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:26,880 Speaker 5: I mean, this is all the worst people in this country. 422 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:29,080 Speaker 5: I'm just gonna say it. The worst people in this 423 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:31,000 Speaker 5: country always find a way to. 424 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:33,240 Speaker 7: Be like, did we really have to blow up you 425 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:36,560 Speaker 7: know on we're all lucky with a drone? Or did 426 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:39,000 Speaker 7: we really have to kill Bin Laden? Couldn't we have 427 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:41,480 Speaker 7: like given him as constitutional rights? 428 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 5: And you know, I mean, the worst people in this 429 00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:47,560 Speaker 5: country always take that position and only seem to take 430 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:50,440 Speaker 5: it when it's like enemies that actually want to destroy 431 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:53,280 Speaker 5: the United States and civilization and everything that is good 432 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 5: and decent. When it's JA six protesters who were taking selfies, 433 00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:58,000 Speaker 5: Those same people. 434 00:23:57,680 --> 00:23:59,680 Speaker 7: Who were like, we shouldn't have shopped in Laden, we 435 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:02,720 Speaker 7: should have put him in a mental rehab facility, those 436 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:04,639 Speaker 7: same people, all of a sudden, the same people are 437 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:05,960 Speaker 7: saying this stuff about the ceasefire. 438 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:08,720 Speaker 5: Now they're like, oh, yeah, lock those J six prisoners 439 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:12,199 Speaker 5: up forever. You say, wait, hold on a second, I 440 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:15,159 Speaker 5: thought you were about mercy. Yeah, so much, Clay. 441 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:19,520 Speaker 1: I also, I just am so fascinated by this intern 442 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:22,560 Speaker 1: move because most of the time when you're an intern. 443 00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:24,919 Speaker 1: You know, if you got to meet the person that 444 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 1: you're interning with, if it's a big place, you might 445 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:32,120 Speaker 1: get to shake the hand, get a picture taken at 446 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:35,359 Speaker 1: the end of your internship. It's not like you're doing, 447 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:41,119 Speaker 1: by and large, anything that significant to the larger ecosystem 448 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:43,840 Speaker 1: or success or failure of the organization. 449 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:45,480 Speaker 2: Well you get the. 450 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:48,200 Speaker 5: First of all, the fact that just so NBC News 451 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:50,239 Speaker 5: did the story on them. Okay, so on the one 452 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:53,000 Speaker 5: of the big corporate news networks was like the White 453 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:56,640 Speaker 5: House intern speaking with one voice forty of them. And 454 00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:59,280 Speaker 5: what this indicates to me is that White House interns 455 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:02,600 Speaker 5: think that in turn is something that commands respect. 456 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:05,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, which is I mean not the case. 457 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:08,600 Speaker 1: I mean, does Joe Biden know any And I'm not 458 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:12,080 Speaker 1: denigrating Joe Biden here, He's got a really important job. 459 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:15,960 Speaker 1: Does he know any intern's name in the White House? 460 00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:16,359 Speaker 7: You know? 461 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:19,239 Speaker 5: The Left does do this though, and I always find it. 462 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:22,239 Speaker 5: I find it so amusing, I mean and insane. But 463 00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:25,600 Speaker 5: it goes to the cult like mentality around some of 464 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:30,520 Speaker 5: these issues and the emotionalism of the emotional allizing of them. 465 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:33,280 Speaker 5: I mean, like Greta Thunberg was going around at sixteen 466 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:36,719 Speaker 5: years old lecturing the world on climate change. And Democrats 467 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:38,640 Speaker 5: took this seriously. They thought they thought we should listen 468 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:41,000 Speaker 5: to this person. I mean, I just wonder what's next 469 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:44,040 Speaker 5: for NBC News, Like, you know, a group of first 470 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:49,040 Speaker 5: graders in you know, out in the Midwest say that 471 00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:50,960 Speaker 5: they think there should be a ceasefire too. I don't 472 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:53,760 Speaker 5: really care what the first graders think about Israel Palestine. 473 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:57,479 Speaker 5: That doesn't actually factor into my consciousness thinking about this. 474 00:25:57,800 --> 00:25:59,919 Speaker 5: You know, are they going to get kindergarteners to do 475 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:02,040 Speaker 5: inger paintings about how there must be a ceasefire? 476 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:06,520 Speaker 1: It is funny, like they managed to get NBC News 477 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:09,960 Speaker 1: to write about their letter. So somebody inside the White 478 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:13,359 Speaker 1: House thought that the people who actually I mean, I 479 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 1: don't even know they. I don't think you can mail 480 00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:17,440 Speaker 1: things to the White House anymore. Back in the day, 481 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:19,919 Speaker 1: when you were on Capitol Hill, you were on mail duty, 482 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:23,280 Speaker 1: and so you would, you know, cut open every pit 483 00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:25,280 Speaker 1: of mail and try to organize it and get it 484 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:27,160 Speaker 1: to the right places. I mean, that's what I did. 485 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:30,919 Speaker 1: And then they had the anthrax scare, and so they 486 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:36,280 Speaker 1: basically started running everything through like a different a different mechanism. 487 00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:38,119 Speaker 1: It took forever to get there, and I don't even know. 488 00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:41,160 Speaker 1: Can you send mail to the what you can? 489 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:41,520 Speaker 2: Still? 490 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:43,719 Speaker 1: Like the male gets delivered to the White House and 491 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:45,399 Speaker 1: like they open it in the White House and go 492 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:47,760 Speaker 1: through it. That happens. I don't even know the answer. 493 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:51,520 Speaker 1: But that's the normal job of an intern was. Hey, 494 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:54,399 Speaker 1: you're going to open the mail, put the you know, 495 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:57,240 Speaker 1: everybody's opinion in this file, and then you take it 496 00:26:57,280 --> 00:26:58,000 Speaker 1: to them say this. 497 00:26:58,160 --> 00:26:59,280 Speaker 2: And this is a whole other thing. 498 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:03,840 Speaker 5: I think a lot of internships are are exploitative and 499 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:05,680 Speaker 5: a total waste of people's time. 500 00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:09,160 Speaker 1: Well, I'm assuming they pay them now, right. Most internships 501 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:11,800 Speaker 1: used to be unpaid. I think they probably get paid 502 00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:13,760 Speaker 1: at the White House now right, But this is what 503 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:14,240 Speaker 1: I'm saying. 504 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:17,760 Speaker 5: If you're doing an unpaid internship, the way they get 505 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:21,240 Speaker 5: around this sometimes is school credit. Look, everything is everything 506 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:23,840 Speaker 5: is specific to the situation. Are you getting school credit 507 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:25,840 Speaker 5: or you getting paid or whatever. But I'm just saying 508 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:28,560 Speaker 5: you and I came up in the era, Okay, if 509 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:31,200 Speaker 5: you were getting I did an internship at like a 510 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:34,280 Speaker 5: A and R like part of a you know studio 511 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:38,000 Speaker 5: for what do you cat recording label? I did internships. 512 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:40,879 Speaker 5: You know, you ever get paid for any internship that 513 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:45,280 Speaker 5: you were on. The Washington Institute for Neary's Policies paid 514 00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:46,880 Speaker 5: me and paid me for Don't I think I ever 515 00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:47,440 Speaker 5: got paid. 516 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 2: I don't think I ever got paid for it. 517 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:52,000 Speaker 1: I mean I was doing it obviously for the experience, 518 00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:53,800 Speaker 1: and look, I wouldn't I wouldn't take it back. 519 00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:55,840 Speaker 2: I was happy to be an intern. But my point 520 00:27:55,840 --> 00:28:01,160 Speaker 2: on it is you're actually given favorite treatment to get 521 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:02,000 Speaker 2: an internship. 522 00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:05,000 Speaker 1: That is, I don't think it happens very often that 523 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:08,560 Speaker 1: an intern is necessary. It's like, hey, I'm gonna let 524 00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:10,119 Speaker 1: we used to do back in the day before. I 525 00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:11,600 Speaker 1: think they they did it away with it. When I 526 00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:14,160 Speaker 1: did sports talk radio, for instance, Buck we would take 527 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:17,639 Speaker 1: one guy and one girl college you know, juniors or 528 00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:21,199 Speaker 1: seniors who wanted to be wanted to be in media, 529 00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:22,920 Speaker 1: and we would let them come and sit in the 530 00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:26,240 Speaker 1: radio studio. It was nice to have, you know, additional help. 531 00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:29,520 Speaker 1: But we were doing them more a favor than I 532 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:31,000 Speaker 1: think they were doing us a favor. 533 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:31,720 Speaker 2: Does that make sense? 534 00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:35,399 Speaker 1: So that I guarantee you the White House would function 535 00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:39,480 Speaker 1: fine without interns. So the idea that they're trying to 536 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:42,680 Speaker 1: exert political influence and power based on being White House 537 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:45,880 Speaker 1: interns is so lappably absurd, can't I can't even hardly 538 00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:46,920 Speaker 1: get over it. 539 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:50,080 Speaker 5: I mean, yeah, I think this White House would function 540 00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:52,400 Speaker 5: the same way if Joe Biden went on vacation for 541 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:54,200 Speaker 5: six months and didn't do anything. 542 00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:55,680 Speaker 2: So that's the scary part. 543 00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:58,760 Speaker 5: Look, let's let's talk about something I think is really 544 00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:02,400 Speaker 5: important and it's something that you can take action on 545 00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:05,120 Speaker 5: today that can save a life. 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We're gonna dive into 582 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:07,640 Speaker 5: a little bit of debate preview here coming up, which 583 00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:10,280 Speaker 5: I think will be an interesting discussion. 584 00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:11,400 Speaker 2: We're looking forward to that one. 585 00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:18,120 Speaker 5: On the stage, the Veke Rumaswami Nikki hilly Rum just saying, 586 00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:20,880 Speaker 5: uh DeSantis. 587 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:22,360 Speaker 2: Oh you almost got Trump almost got you with the. 588 00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:27,840 Speaker 5: D sanctimonious, sanctimonious, sanctimonious on the stage. Probably the worst 589 00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:30,520 Speaker 5: no Ron DeSantis will be on the stage. Sorry, Rob 590 00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:33,480 Speaker 5: the uh Trump. I watched the Sean Hannity town Hall 591 00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:34,640 Speaker 5: last night as the problem, so. 592 00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:36,560 Speaker 2: I didn't I didn't see it. 593 00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:40,960 Speaker 5: I will say that anyone who watches Trump and watches Biden, 594 00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:43,480 Speaker 5: it is true that the visual and the audio shows 595 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:45,560 Speaker 5: you everything you need to know about One of these 596 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:47,640 Speaker 5: guys looks too old for this, and one of them 597 00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:47,960 Speaker 5: does not. 598 00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:50,320 Speaker 2: I mean, one of them seems to be too old 599 00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:52,280 Speaker 2: for this and the other does not. Obviously, Trump does 600 00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:53,200 Speaker 2: not seem to be too old. 601 00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:59,720 Speaker 5: But oh and who I leave, So it's De Santis, Christmas, Christine, Yeah, 602 00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:03,840 Speaker 5: Christie vivek Ramaswami, and Nikki Haley. So we will break 603 00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:07,040 Speaker 5: all that down. But I Clay, you shared this out. 604 00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:08,640 Speaker 5: I just thought this was kind of funny because I've 605 00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:11,480 Speaker 5: thought about this before. There's a new poll out that 606 00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:18,040 Speaker 5: shows the percentages of men versus women, Yes, who believe 607 00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:21,760 Speaker 5: that if they had to with guidance from the control 608 00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:25,840 Speaker 5: tower that's important, they could land a plane. Let's say 609 00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:28,880 Speaker 5: if the pilot you know, passed out, had a some 610 00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:31,680 Speaker 5: kind of an event or whatever. I mean, I would 611 00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:36,880 Speaker 5: just say my confidence level is like very high. I'm 612 00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:40,160 Speaker 5: I'm very confident that if somebody was talking me through it, 613 00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:41,600 Speaker 5: I could land a plane. 614 00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:44,840 Speaker 1: I think, by the way, forty six percent of men 615 00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:48,760 Speaker 1: think that they couldn't land a plane. Twenty percent of 616 00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:52,080 Speaker 1: women think they could. I'm actually curious, but Buck, I've 617 00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:52,560 Speaker 1: been up in. 618 00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:53,640 Speaker 2: Some small planes. 619 00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:55,760 Speaker 5: I mean, you've seen men and women in parallel park. 620 00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:59,160 Speaker 5: I'm just saying there are some differences here. There are 621 00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:02,840 Speaker 5: some difference is in spatial awareness. I have been in 622 00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:07,000 Speaker 5: a bunch of these little these little planes. Ali, if 623 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:09,040 Speaker 5: you want to jump on the mic and talk about 624 00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:11,480 Speaker 5: how small the plane that I had producer Ali with 625 00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:13,360 Speaker 5: me in in Milwaukee. 626 00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:17,240 Speaker 1: I think that she was basically going to have to 627 00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:22,280 Speaker 1: pass out in this plane. But the planes actually have parachutes. 628 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:25,840 Speaker 1: And when I have been one and one with the pilot, 629 00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:28,320 Speaker 1: the pilot has said to me, as we get ready 630 00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:31,880 Speaker 1: to take off, Hey, if I pass out or if 631 00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:34,360 Speaker 1: I have a heart attack or something happens to me, 632 00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:38,600 Speaker 1: here's what you need to do to help make sure 633 00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:42,680 Speaker 1: that we get the plane landed. And like they walk 634 00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:45,320 Speaker 1: through a little bit of a little bit of a 635 00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:50,280 Speaker 1: tutorial with me, like these little Serrus planes. 636 00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:52,720 Speaker 5: Yeah, hold on a second, I'm gonna if I'm in 637 00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:56,160 Speaker 5: a propeller for helicopter, we're going down, it's a fireball 638 00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:59,200 Speaker 5: like helicopter, way rotary aircraft, way more difficult. I think 639 00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:01,000 Speaker 5: that one that one I'd be worried if I if 640 00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:02,800 Speaker 5: I had to if I had to take the like 641 00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:06,960 Speaker 5: the stick of a helicopter because the pilot passed out. 642 00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:10,200 Speaker 5: It's interesting because I think it would be far more 643 00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:14,799 Speaker 5: intimidating to take the controls of like a jumbo jetliner. 644 00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:18,480 Speaker 5: Even though if you had someone talking you through it 645 00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:20,879 Speaker 5: with auto pilot things and everything else. 646 00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:23,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, you probably would be. But I mean, you got it. 647 00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:25,400 Speaker 5: If you have like two hundred people on the plane, 648 00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:28,360 Speaker 5: that's you're adding a whole lot of stress to the situation. 649 00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:29,840 Speaker 5: I'm talking about a plane where it's just you know, 650 00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:31,879 Speaker 5: it's basically me and the pilot and stew or die. 651 00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:36,239 Speaker 5: But in that situation, I think that the propeller aircraft, 652 00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:38,520 Speaker 5: I don't. I wouldn't pull the shoot on that thing 653 00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:40,480 Speaker 5: and let us glide down. I think I could land that, 654 00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:43,000 Speaker 5: I'd find some farmers, feel that'd scatter the sheep. 655 00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:47,120 Speaker 2: I'd be fine. Ali? Is Ali there? Ali? How nervous 656 00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:48,839 Speaker 2: were you to be in the plane that I had 657 00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:49,120 Speaker 2: us in? 658 00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:52,920 Speaker 4: I was terrified. That was my worst nightmare. 659 00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:54,279 Speaker 7: So we got it. 660 00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:56,200 Speaker 2: Did you get that? We tell you this Storybuck. 661 00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:57,600 Speaker 1: We got out because we were trying to get to 662 00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:02,279 Speaker 1: New York City after the Republican debate, and the only 663 00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:04,239 Speaker 1: way to get there it was, you know, we did 664 00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:06,000 Speaker 1: the book event and then we were trying to get 665 00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:07,359 Speaker 1: to New York City and the only way to get 666 00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:09,520 Speaker 1: there in time and everything else. We were working on it, 667 00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:12,279 Speaker 1: and it was like one hundred and eighty degrees that 668 00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:14,680 Speaker 1: day in Milwaukee. I mean, it's like the hottest day 669 00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:18,840 Speaker 1: Milwaukee's had in seventy five years or something. Everything's melting 670 00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:22,640 Speaker 1: in the city, including evidently this airplane. And we get 671 00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:25,319 Speaker 1: out on the runway and I'm not kidding. I mean 672 00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:26,840 Speaker 1: it looked like we were in the middle of the 673 00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:29,240 Speaker 1: Sahara Desert. How hot it was out on this runway. 674 00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:33,880 Speaker 1: And the pilot's like, yeah, you know, like the it 675 00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:36,799 Speaker 1: was his radio and stuff wasn't working right Alley, so they. 676 00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:38,279 Speaker 2: Just kind of it for a while. 677 00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:40,240 Speaker 4: He wanted to reboot it like an iPhone. 678 00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:42,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, he turned it off and turned it back on, 679 00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:43,920 Speaker 2: and Ali was like, I don't know that. 680 00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:46,320 Speaker 1: I like, you turned the airplane off and turned it 681 00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:48,560 Speaker 1: back on, And eventually he was like, yeah, we're not 682 00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:50,520 Speaker 1: gonna be able to do this. We left, got back 683 00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:53,560 Speaker 1: on to a commercial airline flight, but you were I 684 00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:54,000 Speaker 1: could tell. 685 00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:56,279 Speaker 4: Do you remember what I said to you as he 686 00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:59,200 Speaker 4: taxied back when we decided we weren't going to take off. 687 00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:01,520 Speaker 4: I just said, it's not our time, Clay, it's not 688 00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:02,080 Speaker 4: our time. 689 00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:04,040 Speaker 2: You thought we were going to die if I took 690 00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:04,680 Speaker 2: off that point. 691 00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:12,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, my first helicopter ride ever, ever, was in Iraq 692 00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:18,040 Speaker 5: in a black Hawk and the gunners opened up around 693 00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:18,440 Speaker 5: the flight. 694 00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:20,080 Speaker 6: That was. 695 00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:22,440 Speaker 2: A wake up call. 696 00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:26,640 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, you know, my uncle did helicopter 697 00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:30,800 Speaker 1: repairs in Vietnam. He was in Vietnam, and you know 698 00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:33,320 Speaker 1: how they made sure that they did good work on 699 00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:38,600 Speaker 1: the helicopters. First flight up was all the text that 700 00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:42,279 Speaker 1: fixed the helicopters. So I always thought that was like, 701 00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:43,920 Speaker 1: you know, they had to get up and test it, 702 00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:45,480 Speaker 1: you know, So if you wanted to know how well 703 00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:47,800 Speaker 1: did they fix those helicopters, you had to be the 704 00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:49,080 Speaker 1: first group to take them up. 705 00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:51,960 Speaker 5: My rule for combat aircraft is I never want to 706 00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:53,760 Speaker 5: be in one where they have to worry about armoring 707 00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:55,759 Speaker 5: it up. I want to be really high in the 708 00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:58,400 Speaker 5: sky so like they can't shoot me from the ground, 709 00:36:58,800 --> 00:36:59,320 Speaker 5: no kidding,