WEBVTT - How Military Snipers Work 0:00:00.280 --> 0:00:02.840 Brought to you by the reinvented two thousand twelve camera. 0:00:03.160 --> 0:00:07.560 It's ready. Are you welcome to stuff you should know 0:00:08.160 --> 0:00:17.079 from housetop works dot com. Hey, and welcome to the podcast. 0:00:17.200 --> 0:00:20.239 I'm Josh Clark. With me is Charles W. Chuck Bryant. 0:00:20.320 --> 0:00:23.840 You could call us something of a podcast sniping team, 0:00:23.840 --> 0:00:27.120 taking out all MPR suckers ahead of us. That would 0:00:27.120 --> 0:00:29.760 make me the spotter, which I like. Did you think 0:00:29.800 --> 0:00:32.920 so you you're the spotter? I think I think it'd 0:00:32.920 --> 0:00:35.280 be a good sniper. Actually, I think we could reasonably 0:00:35.320 --> 0:00:37.400 trade off with that, you know, I mean, wouldn't you 0:00:37.800 --> 0:00:42.240 eventually become envious? Like you know, I'm tired of spotting. 0:00:42.680 --> 0:00:46.080 I want to pull the trigger. What's it like like, um, 0:00:46.120 --> 0:00:51.160 Michael Douglas's teenage daughter in traffic thinking about shooting heroin? 0:00:51.280 --> 0:00:53.720 You know, she starts out snorting it ends up shooting 0:00:53.760 --> 0:00:56.400 it just because she's around it so much. I imagine 0:00:56.400 --> 0:01:00.160 the same thing happens to spotters they've been so you 0:01:00.200 --> 0:01:02.200 want to kill. I would just be good on the team, 0:01:02.240 --> 0:01:05.199 you know. I can. I could lay somewhere for hours 0:01:05.280 --> 0:01:09.520 at a time without moving. I'm sneaking quieter. You're not 0:01:09.560 --> 0:01:14.640 allowed to be asleep though, Okay, yeah, it would be 0:01:14.720 --> 0:01:17.960 a problem. So, Chuck, we're talking about military snipers. I 0:01:17.959 --> 0:01:20.280 have a slight intro for this one. Alight, it's not 0:01:20.319 --> 0:01:23.880 really an intro. It's just an interesting fact. And I 0:01:23.880 --> 0:01:26.000 don't even know if it's true, so facts probably the 0:01:26.040 --> 0:01:30.399 wrong word. But have you ever heard the old old adage, 0:01:30.640 --> 0:01:33.160 the old superstition that you're not supposed to light three 0:01:33.200 --> 0:01:37.000 cigarettes off of one match. I've never heard that. Actually, well, 0:01:37.040 --> 0:01:40.000 it's a superstition and it is. That's just the real thing, 0:01:40.360 --> 0:01:45.839 And apparently it has a fairly recent origins World War One. Actually, 0:01:46.000 --> 0:01:50.360 it's that recent twentieth century um and it was based 0:01:50.400 --> 0:01:53.240 on the idea that if you're in a trench and 0:01:53.480 --> 0:01:56.320 you lit a match, you caught the attention of a sniper. 0:01:56.680 --> 0:01:59.520 You lit your first cigarette, the sniper takes aim with 0:01:59.560 --> 0:02:02.240 the second cigarette, and then when you're lighting the third cigarette, 0:02:02.280 --> 0:02:05.520 sniper fires and that guy is dead. I like that, Yeah, 0:02:05.800 --> 0:02:07.840 I buy that, until it's bad luck to like three 0:02:07.880 --> 0:02:10.520 smokes off of winds one match. You know, a lot 0:02:10.520 --> 0:02:13.040 of those phrase origins are military in nature. When you 0:02:13.080 --> 0:02:15.760 when you go back and look at him, and I 0:02:15.800 --> 0:02:24.480 buy that like a wall. Yeah. Yeah, that's Military's Army. Yeah, 0:02:25.120 --> 0:02:28.160 Silent Scope. Do you ever play that game? No? Is 0:02:28.160 --> 0:02:32.600 it a sniper game? Is it good? It's great? I 0:02:32.600 --> 0:02:35.040 mean it's a stand up arcade game. I prefer the 0:02:35.120 --> 0:02:38.920 sniper rifle on um Golden Eye yep. And I play 0:02:39.440 --> 0:02:41.680 the Call of Duty game and it's to have a 0:02:41.720 --> 0:02:43.880 sniper level where you have to take out this one 0:02:43.919 --> 0:02:46.680 guy and account for the wind and all that. And 0:02:46.680 --> 0:02:50.880 it's thrilling to me as a gun hating, peace loving 0:02:51.000 --> 0:02:54.760 liberal hippie aging hippie. I still love it. Man. There's 0:02:54.760 --> 0:02:57.399 something about it that's why little boys like playing with guns. Well, 0:02:57.400 --> 0:03:01.000 that's why you picked this article. How terry sniper's work 0:03:01.080 --> 0:03:03.880 this week? It's interesting this is a Chuck Bryant special, 0:03:04.040 --> 0:03:06.960 meaning that you picked it, not that you wrote it. Um, 0:03:07.000 --> 0:03:11.000 and uh, this was a Robert Valdi's special. Huh. This 0:03:11.040 --> 0:03:13.240 guy got to the bottom of it, interviewed an actual 0:03:13.480 --> 0:03:17.360 former Army ranger sniper. That enhanced it a lot. I 0:03:17.360 --> 0:03:20.440 think definitely. The guy was anonymous and everything, which is 0:03:20.440 --> 0:03:24.799 pretty awesome. Yeah. So, um, let's talk about sniper's chuckers, right, 0:03:25.320 --> 0:03:28.200 there's a I guess we can we can reveal the 0:03:28.520 --> 0:03:33.040 end the button of the article, right that where the 0:03:33.120 --> 0:03:35.640 sniper wants everyone to know, we're not just like these 0:03:35.640 --> 0:03:39.680 assassins that happens once in a while but very rarely, 0:03:40.240 --> 0:03:43.160 and we have many, many other jobs. And probably the 0:03:43.160 --> 0:03:48.240 biggest job that a sniper has is just reconnaissance, like 0:03:48.320 --> 0:03:51.640 going and gathering information by being behind enemy lines and 0:03:51.720 --> 0:03:54.839 spying on the enemy for days on end and then 0:03:54.880 --> 0:03:58.680 reporting back what they see that. And they're highly highly 0:03:58.720 --> 0:04:01.240 trained for that. They're not just highly trained for shooting. 0:04:01.360 --> 0:04:05.560 They're highly trained observers too, yeah, big time. And but 0:04:05.680 --> 0:04:09.440 if duty calls, they can uh, if they don't have 0:04:09.480 --> 0:04:12.640 a specific assignment like to take out whatever this general is, 0:04:13.280 --> 0:04:18.240 they can't have what they call targets of opportunity, And 0:04:18.320 --> 0:04:20.960 that's when they can really take the wind out of 0:04:20.960 --> 0:04:23.440 the sales of a battalion. If all of a sudden 0:04:23.480 --> 0:04:27.159 the officers standing there, then he's not standing there, or 0:04:27.200 --> 0:04:31.440 like the communications guy goes down, or later on even 0:04:31.480 --> 0:04:35.799 some dude doing like you know, guard duty. Yeah, or equipment. 0:04:36.120 --> 0:04:37.880 We found out later in this article actually and we 0:04:37.960 --> 0:04:40.120 might as well spoil that. Yeah, this is not even 0:04:40.120 --> 0:04:42.760 a human that's a material target. Yeah, like blow up 0:04:42.800 --> 0:04:47.080 their generator or their ammunition bay or just anything that 0:04:47.120 --> 0:04:50.520 would wreak havoc agree and make their job harder. And 0:04:50.520 --> 0:04:55.440 then uh, I guess also because of this effect that 0:04:55.600 --> 0:04:59.280 the effect that a sniper has is um. It's not 0:04:59.400 --> 0:05:04.120 just um physical e g. You know, blowing someone away, 0:05:04.920 --> 0:05:08.080 but it's also mental um and um. It has a 0:05:08.080 --> 0:05:11.839 real dampening effect on morale. I would imagine the psychological 0:05:11.880 --> 0:05:14.320 effect is probably pretty huge. Yeah, because you know, one 0:05:14.320 --> 0:05:16.600 of the things about snipers is that you don't know 0:05:16.640 --> 0:05:19.480 they're coming, and you don't see just all of a sudden, 0:05:19.480 --> 0:05:22.200 the guy next to you is dead, and that's going 0:05:22.240 --> 0:05:25.760 to shake you, especially like you said, when there's targets 0:05:25.760 --> 0:05:28.840 of opportunity it happens randomly, or when it's like a 0:05:28.920 --> 0:05:31.320 very well chosen person like you said, like an officer, 0:05:31.720 --> 0:05:34.320 somebody who's like, you know, kind of the moral spiritual 0:05:34.400 --> 0:05:37.560 leader of the team is suddenly dead. That has a 0:05:37.560 --> 0:05:41.800 big effect, which makes UM snipers what are called force multipliers, 0:05:42.120 --> 0:05:45.960 meaning just a one or two people UM can have 0:05:46.080 --> 0:05:49.600 the effect of a you know, a big platoon you know, 0:05:49.839 --> 0:05:53.520 charging in and shooting people. Yeah, and I always say 0:05:53.520 --> 0:05:55.240 band name a lot, but if you're in a heavy 0:05:55.240 --> 0:05:57.640 metal band. In your name isn't force multiplier, you might 0:05:57.640 --> 0:05:59.960 want to think about changing it, Yeah, unless it's master 0:06:00.000 --> 0:06:04.640 it on. They have a good name, so yes, they 0:06:05.440 --> 0:06:10.560 they're actually trained to UM, to spy on the enemy 0:06:10.680 --> 0:06:12.920 and and learn who the officers are, which is you 0:06:12.960 --> 0:06:14.840 know you've always heard you're not supposed to salute in 0:06:14.880 --> 0:06:17.679 the field of battle because it's pretty much that giveaway. 0:06:17.720 --> 0:06:20.120 But these guys are trained to look and stare and 0:06:20.839 --> 0:06:23.839 just you can tell. They can tell at least who 0:06:23.880 --> 0:06:26.560 the higher ranks are by the way they carry themselves, 0:06:26.600 --> 0:06:28.920 by what they're doing, by the way they're acting, and 0:06:28.960 --> 0:06:31.160 they're trained to pick these people out and then pick 0:06:31.240 --> 0:06:35.120 these people off, Chuck. There's a couple of other UM assignments. 0:06:35.120 --> 0:06:37.440 I guess the sniper can land or positions that they 0:06:37.480 --> 0:06:40.560 play roles. That's the word I'm looking for. There's the 0:06:40.680 --> 0:06:44.160 famous Overwatch position where they're like up in a bell tower, 0:06:44.360 --> 0:06:47.159 clock tower or something like that with a just a 0:06:47.240 --> 0:06:50.479 three and sixty degree view of the battlefield. That's just 0:06:50.640 --> 0:06:54.440 taking people off like um prior to the Nation in 0:06:54.800 --> 0:06:59.520 Inglorious Bastards, saving Private Ryan because remember he took him 0:06:59.560 --> 0:07:02.440 out through the scope yeh, I remember only in the movies, 0:07:02.520 --> 0:07:04.599 but that was pretty cool. Yeah, only in the movies 0:07:04.760 --> 0:07:08.520 or World War two. Um. And then that that's called 0:07:08.520 --> 0:07:10.640 the overwatch position. I don't remember if I said they're not. 0:07:10.640 --> 0:07:14.320 And then there's a blocking action, which is, um, basically 0:07:14.360 --> 0:07:18.520 you are again up on a roof, but instead you're 0:07:18.560 --> 0:07:23.480 helping to defend a position rather than maybe take it. Right. Right, Yeah, 0:07:24.400 --> 0:07:26.400 you're helping out your buddies that are in the hiding 0:07:26.440 --> 0:07:29.440 in the farmhouse below, right, because this is World War two. Right, 0:07:29.680 --> 0:07:32.360 that's exactly right. Do you want to go ahead and 0:07:32.920 --> 0:07:37.840 reveal the big secret about snipers, the supposed lone gunman? 0:07:39.120 --> 0:07:41.560 It's not true. It isn't true. Have you've seen the 0:07:41.560 --> 0:07:44.320 movie Shooter? Did you see that with Marky Mark? No, 0:07:44.520 --> 0:07:48.440 I hate him. I don't hate him. No, I don't, 0:07:48.520 --> 0:07:52.960 I I don't. I liked him in um three Kings. Yeah. Yeah, 0:07:53.120 --> 0:07:55.040 I haven't seen The Boxer yet, but I'm sure i'll 0:07:55.080 --> 0:08:01.040 like it. The Fighter the same thing, uh, and I have. Uh. Well, yeah, well, 0:08:01.080 --> 0:08:04.640 Shooter is actually I had very low expectations and ended 0:08:04.680 --> 0:08:07.720 up being a pretty decent movie. And um it is 0:08:07.760 --> 0:08:12.120 buoyed by the great leave on Helm of the band 0:08:12.280 --> 0:08:15.000 my favorite group ever. He's an actor in that. I 0:08:15.080 --> 0:08:18.520 thought Tom Berenger was it, No, No, No, no different movie. 0:08:19.600 --> 0:08:22.200 I think that might have been called Sniper. Tom Berenger 0:08:22.280 --> 0:08:25.640 wasn't in that movie. So Leave Leave On Helm was 0:08:25.720 --> 0:08:29.720 the He's the old timer who who apparently had something 0:08:29.760 --> 0:08:34.199 to do with the Kennedy assassination too. Huh oh yeah, man, 0:08:34.200 --> 0:08:36.760 he's been in lots of movies. Boogie Knights loved him 0:08:36.760 --> 0:08:42.640 in Boogie Knights. He was awesome in that movie. Okay, okay, alright. Yes, 0:08:42.720 --> 0:08:46.920 snipers working teams always, They never ever ever go alone. 0:08:46.920 --> 0:08:50.880 It's not the way that military sniper units act. Yea. 0:08:51.280 --> 0:08:54.880 They are, um so much so that their sniper rifles 0:08:55.240 --> 0:08:59.080 are considered crew served weapons, like a you know, one 0:08:59.120 --> 0:09:02.080 of those heavy machine and it's like belt fed bullets. Yeah, 0:09:02.280 --> 0:09:04.319 it takes a defeat it bullets and one guy to 0:09:04.360 --> 0:09:08.559 shoot it. That's a crew served um A weapon. Yeah, obviously, 0:09:09.080 --> 0:09:12.200 UM so is a sniper rifle, not because it takes 0:09:12.240 --> 0:09:14.480 two people to shoot it, but because it takes two 0:09:14.520 --> 0:09:18.040 people to shoot it accurately, which is the whole point 0:09:19.080 --> 0:09:22.400 it is. And uh a spotter is uh from what 0:09:22.440 --> 0:09:24.560 we gather sort of a sniper in training. Um, you 0:09:24.600 --> 0:09:27.439 will act as a spotter and the hopes that one 0:09:27.480 --> 0:09:29.240 day you will actually be the sniper and lead your 0:09:29.280 --> 0:09:31.800 own team and the sniper. I mean we're calling it 0:09:31.800 --> 0:09:35.560 a team. It's two dudes, the sniper team. I'm sorry. 0:09:35.559 --> 0:09:38.200 The sniper on the team is really the one in charge. 0:09:38.200 --> 0:09:40.400 They're the one that he's to leave on helms of 0:09:40.440 --> 0:09:44.680 the band helm. They get the orders, uh from from 0:09:45.040 --> 0:09:49.199 the higher ups. They determine like the best route to 0:09:49.240 --> 0:09:52.600 get there, the drop off points, all that stuff, right, 0:09:53.480 --> 0:09:54.880 And I guess we should go ahead and walk through 0:09:54.920 --> 0:09:57.880 the process because those are the first two steps. Let's 0:09:57.880 --> 0:10:00.720 do you determine your drop off point for your objective, 0:10:00.720 --> 0:10:02.880 which isn't gonna be you know, fifty yards away from 0:10:02.880 --> 0:10:05.840 your objective. It's gonna be miles and miles away. Probably, 0:10:05.880 --> 0:10:07.920 Like a day's walk is a good bed, Yeah, you're 0:10:07.920 --> 0:10:10.160 gonna spend a day walk in there. You want to 0:10:10.200 --> 0:10:12.719 get a good setup position and and verify that you 0:10:12.800 --> 0:10:16.040 can camouflage that spot. Like, yeah, you're always thinking ahead. 0:10:16.760 --> 0:10:18.320 When you're on your belly and you're you want to 0:10:18.320 --> 0:10:20.840 move to your second position. You don't just say all right, 0:10:20.880 --> 0:10:22.680 that looks decent over there, You've got to look at 0:10:22.760 --> 0:10:25.199 everything around it, what's in your way to get there, 0:10:25.200 --> 0:10:27.680 because you're gonna be belly crawling. And then when you 0:10:27.720 --> 0:10:31.760 get there, what you can use to camouflage yourself. Uh, 0:10:31.800 --> 0:10:35.200 they're gonna establish an escape route very important, and a 0:10:35.200 --> 0:10:39.200 fallback position in case you get separated from your buddy. 0:10:39.440 --> 0:10:42.080 And then you gotta locate your target, grab the gun 0:10:42.120 --> 0:10:45.880 and get in position, right and um, getting in position 0:10:46.559 --> 0:10:50.120 after you locate the target is probably not what snipers do. 0:10:50.760 --> 0:10:53.600 They probably get in position and then locate the target. 0:10:53.960 --> 0:10:57.360 Would say, you know, if they're shooting somebody's specific, like 0:10:57.400 --> 0:11:00.720 maybe they arrive at the location of where they're you know, 0:11:01.080 --> 0:11:03.959 going to be shooting the person or whatever. But you're 0:11:04.000 --> 0:11:06.800 going to sit there, possibly for days on end. And 0:11:06.840 --> 0:11:09.040 by sid I mean late flat on your stomach. What 0:11:09.120 --> 0:11:13.440 is that prone or supine? I think prone? Prone, I 0:11:13.440 --> 0:11:18.840 think curses. So the spotter is going to be on 0:11:18.880 --> 0:11:22.920 the ground right next to and slightly behind you, basically 0:11:22.920 --> 0:11:25.360 trying to line up their spotter scope, which is way 0:11:25.400 --> 0:11:29.320 more powerful even than the rifle scope, as close to 0:11:29.360 --> 0:11:31.679 the barrel of the gun as possible. Yeah, in the 0:11:31.720 --> 0:11:35.640 same line as it and basically say okay, I've got 0:11:35.679 --> 0:11:41.840 this guy and he is, um a thousand meters away. Yeah, 0:11:42.280 --> 0:11:46.760 the wind is blowing at like six knots from the northeast, 0:11:47.320 --> 0:11:50.040 it's sixty five degrees, it's got a barometric pressure and 0:11:50.040 --> 0:11:52.960 a temperature of this humidity level is this? So you'd 0:11:53.000 --> 0:11:56.240 make a great spotter. See all that. So all that 0:11:56.520 --> 0:11:59.199 comes into consideration when you're trying to you know, you're 0:11:59.200 --> 0:12:06.440 shooting oftentimes from a thousand yards away. Yeah, a thousand yards. Well, remember, um, 0:12:06.520 --> 0:12:11.720 I think to become a sniper for Delta Force, remember 0:12:11.800 --> 0:12:14.600 like it was yards minimum you had to you had 0:12:14.600 --> 0:12:19.560 to have like eight or nine or nine accuracy from yards. 0:12:19.679 --> 0:12:21.720 We talked about it. That was a while ago though. 0:12:23.160 --> 0:12:25.199 So the sniper, how do they This was a cool 0:12:25.240 --> 0:12:27.560 thing because I saw it on YouTube. This thing creates 0:12:27.559 --> 0:12:31.440 a vapor trail the bullet does. Yeah, the spotters not 0:12:31.520 --> 0:12:34.240 just you know watching. And also we should we should 0:12:34.240 --> 0:12:36.640 say that if you're there for days on end, um, 0:12:36.840 --> 0:12:39.760 the spotter and the sniper will probably trade off spot 0:12:39.800 --> 0:12:42.920 or duty just so one can get rest or something 0:12:42.960 --> 0:12:47.840 like that. And then exactly, um, but yes, when the 0:12:47.880 --> 0:12:51.120 time finally comes and the shot is to be taken. Um, 0:12:51.200 --> 0:12:54.000 the spotter watches to make sure that the sniper hit 0:12:54.080 --> 0:12:58.199 the target. And like you're saying, a bullet, the bullets 0:12:58.200 --> 0:13:01.960 that they're firing out of these fifty caliber guns are 0:13:02.480 --> 0:13:07.160 seven point six too. Yeah, that's a big bullet. Those 0:13:07.160 --> 0:13:10.679 are the ones that look like missiles. They move through 0:13:10.720 --> 0:13:13.560 the air um in such a way that they create 0:13:13.720 --> 0:13:17.280 a vapor trail. And the army ranger who was interviewed 0:13:17.320 --> 0:13:21.160 for this article says, like it it looks you can 0:13:21.160 --> 0:13:24.040 see through it, but it's distorted air, which I'd take 0:13:24.120 --> 0:13:27.559 to mean like the matrix. That's exactly what it looks like. Oh, 0:13:27.600 --> 0:13:30.480 you've seen it, well, it's on YouTube. Yeah you can see. 0:13:30.520 --> 0:13:32.280 I mean you gotta look, but you can see it, 0:13:32.320 --> 0:13:34.480 and it looks like the matrix thing and all the 0:13:34.520 --> 0:13:38.400 other movies that copied it is like a hugely exaggerated obviously, 0:13:38.440 --> 0:13:41.640 but it sort of looks like that. It looks like, uh, 0:13:41.679 --> 0:13:45.800 the ABYSS, the little blob from the ABYSS traveling through 0:13:45.800 --> 0:13:49.439 the air, cavitating the air? Is that the word I think? So? 0:13:50.840 --> 0:13:55.200 Um so yeah, then the spotter says, you missed. That 0:13:55.240 --> 0:13:58.880 doesn't happen very often. No, it doesn't um. But if 0:13:58.920 --> 0:14:01.160 it does happen, these botter says, Okay, we need to 0:14:02.480 --> 0:14:05.160 move it this way a little bit. Yeah, maybe down 0:14:05.200 --> 0:14:09.400 a little probably uses more specific jargon than that, maybe 0:14:09.400 --> 0:14:12.640 down a little, and then another SHOT's taken and then 0:14:12.679 --> 0:14:15.320 another shot. Um. And the spotter is also going to 0:14:15.360 --> 0:14:17.640 be the one who's carrying, like, um, something like an 0:14:17.760 --> 0:14:21.400 M six teen or an M four some other assault rifle. 0:14:22.040 --> 0:14:25.200 Because if somebody comes up on you, as anyone who 0:14:25.320 --> 0:14:28.640 has ever played any video game when you're in hand 0:14:28.640 --> 0:14:32.480 to hand combat or close combat, uh, this sniper rifle 0:14:32.560 --> 0:14:35.400 is the worst weapon to have. Of all, you want 0:14:35.520 --> 0:14:38.520 the automatic assault rifle. That's what you want. And that's 0:14:38.600 --> 0:14:41.120 me in those games. I'm the one turning around fumbling 0:14:41.200 --> 0:14:43.800 trying to reload while the guy's dispatching the face inter 0:14:43.880 --> 0:14:47.760 shooting me exactly. And the relationship between these two guys 0:14:47.840 --> 0:14:51.480 is obviously very key because they're spending hours and days 0:14:51.480 --> 0:14:54.080 and days at a time with each other in very 0:14:54.120 --> 0:14:59.520 close quiet quarters. Trust is huge, obviously because their lives 0:14:59.560 --> 0:15:02.720 depend on each other and they usually don't have a 0:15:02.720 --> 0:15:04.800 lot of support from their unit. They're out there alone 0:15:04.960 --> 0:15:08.760 protecting their unit and their unit and platoon is depending 0:15:08.760 --> 0:15:10.440 on them. If you screw up, a lot of times 0:15:10.520 --> 0:15:13.080 your platoon is is not in good shape afterwards. So 0:15:13.440 --> 0:15:16.040 very high pressure job, right, they're doing recon or they're 0:15:16.080 --> 0:15:23.960 doing um, spearhead demoralization through selective assassination something like that. Right. 0:15:24.320 --> 0:15:27.680 Um so yeah, they're they're like if the snipers out there, 0:15:27.720 --> 0:15:30.280 probably shortly after a platoon is going to be on 0:15:30.320 --> 0:15:32.920 their heels and the sniper has to relay whatever information 0:15:33.120 --> 0:15:36.360 he's taking in. Um so yeah, if he screws up, 0:15:36.480 --> 0:15:40.200 it can be problematic. Sure, Um you want to talk 0:15:40.200 --> 0:15:43.680 about the rifles. Yeah, they don't just pull a rifle 0:15:43.720 --> 0:15:46.400 off with shelf at Walmart and and go hide in 0:15:46.440 --> 0:15:50.240 the woods, although some guys have. Remember Seemo Hia who 0:15:50.480 --> 0:15:53.920 seem O Hia the White Death. Oh yeah, yeah, well 0:15:54.080 --> 0:15:58.040 sure he had his plain old bolt action hunting hunting rifle. 0:15:58.120 --> 0:16:02.840 Any from five cool with it? Uh These days, Josh, 0:16:02.920 --> 0:16:07.359 it's a little more uh specialized than that. Um there 0:16:07.360 --> 0:16:09.920 a lot of times it's called an M fourteen with 0:16:10.040 --> 0:16:14.080 match grade upgrades. And match grade means that some professional 0:16:14.160 --> 0:16:18.920 gunsmith is hone this thing to within a good centimeter. 0:16:19.640 --> 0:16:23.960 You like that of accuracy? You were you were waiting 0:16:23.960 --> 0:16:26.240 for a better reaction than that. I didn't know if 0:16:26.280 --> 0:16:27.680 you thought that was a real word. So I think 0:16:27.680 --> 0:16:30.280 match grade means like, um, like a shooting match like 0:16:30.360 --> 0:16:35.240 competition grade. Yeah, probably because they use very similar rifles 0:16:35.240 --> 0:16:39.600 for competition shooting. Yeah, where they're hollowed out. Yeah, that's Olympic. 0:16:39.680 --> 0:16:41.400 I never understood that. I love it though. The guys 0:16:41.440 --> 0:16:44.040 who ski and shoot, yeah, what's the point of that, 0:16:44.160 --> 0:16:45.960 I don't know. I like it. They should add like 0:16:46.000 --> 0:16:48.240 they should snowboard and shoot and just do all sorts 0:16:48.240 --> 0:16:50.760 of things. You go up to half fife, then you 0:16:50.840 --> 0:16:53.480 stop and you take a couple of shots. Yeah, kite 0:16:53.480 --> 0:16:56.120 sailing and shooting. Yeah, And I'm sure there's some great 0:16:56.160 --> 0:16:59.880 history to that, but I don't know it. So match 0:17:00.000 --> 0:17:04.280 grade guns and also match grade handmade ammunition. So I 0:17:04.280 --> 0:17:07.360 mean it's all just like very detailed that like that's 0:17:07.400 --> 0:17:09.880 hollowed out. It's light. It's usually fiberglass because you don't 0:17:09.880 --> 0:17:14.119 want the wood to warp, and UM ends up being 0:17:14.160 --> 0:17:17.320 extremely accurate. The barrel doesn't touch the rest of the gun. 0:17:17.560 --> 0:17:20.400 This is cool. The free floating barrel. It touches as 0:17:20.440 --> 0:17:24.800 little as possible so that the initial explosion from the 0:17:24.840 --> 0:17:28.800 bullet being fired causing the recoil in the barrel that 0:17:28.920 --> 0:17:34.600 it doesn't kick as much, and just the rifles accuracy yeah, 0:17:35.240 --> 0:17:39.399 disadjusted plus move maladjust to any kind of movements. Ben Yeah, 0:17:39.400 --> 0:17:42.240 which is why they use more often than not bolt 0:17:42.280 --> 0:17:46.280 action rifles, which had disadvantages in that you have to 0:17:46.320 --> 0:17:50.080 load a single round, shoot it, and then unload that shell, 0:17:50.280 --> 0:17:54.080 reload another round. But um, their motto was one shot, 0:17:54.119 --> 0:17:57.000 one kill, so one shot is usually all you need. 0:17:57.320 --> 0:18:00.760 But they do sometimes use the semi automatic rifles, but 0:18:01.080 --> 0:18:03.400 which you have there are shells flying out of the gun, 0:18:03.680 --> 0:18:05.879 which is not very smart. Right. Either way, you're gonna 0:18:06.080 --> 0:18:08.919 be detected with movement possibly like when you do the 0:18:08.960 --> 0:18:13.320 bolt action that's moving, that flying shell that's moving. But 0:18:13.520 --> 0:18:17.359 the automatic or semi automatic rifles have more moving parts 0:18:17.400 --> 0:18:21.720 than a BOWLT action. Checkers tend to prefer bowlt action. Yeah, 0:18:21.840 --> 0:18:24.359 although they said they can their shoot it's their choice. 0:18:25.119 --> 0:18:31.080 Shooters preference, Yeah, sniper's sniper's choice between eight and fifteen grand. 0:18:31.200 --> 0:18:34.640 These things costs. Yeah, it's kind of pricey, but they 0:18:34.640 --> 0:18:38.400 look really cool. Yeah, they do. Uh do we talk 0:18:38.440 --> 0:18:41.280 about the scope, No, we haven't yet. I mean, we 0:18:41.320 --> 0:18:45.480 talked about how the the spotter has a superior scope. 0:18:46.080 --> 0:18:48.840 But yeah, the scope on the sniper rifle usually has 0:18:48.880 --> 0:18:54.240 about a ten time magnification power. It's just you know, telescope, 0:18:54.480 --> 0:18:59.199 a high powered telescope, mini telescope sorry, with um crosshairs 0:18:59.240 --> 0:19:03.440 on it. Called redicules, right, is that what it has pronounced? 0:19:03.480 --> 0:19:08.240 A targeting ridicule, ridiculation ridicule. I didn't know how it 0:19:08.280 --> 0:19:11.280 was pronounced. I kept saying articular, and then I thought 0:19:11.280 --> 0:19:16.000 it was ridicule. Uh, what you're looking at when you're 0:19:16.040 --> 0:19:18.480 aiming though, Like we said, there's all sorts of variances 0:19:18.480 --> 0:19:20.399 in the wind and everything will change the path of 0:19:20.440 --> 0:19:23.800 your bullet. But um, you're looking at the point of 0:19:23.840 --> 0:19:26.399 aim and the point of impact, and if you're firing 0:19:26.440 --> 0:19:29.760 from six yards away, it's not gonna be what you're 0:19:29.800 --> 0:19:32.320 aiming at. And this is accurate even in that Call 0:19:32.359 --> 0:19:35.480 of Duty game, like you aim at the dude's head 0:19:35.520 --> 0:19:37.159 and then you end up shooting like three ft to 0:19:37.160 --> 0:19:39.040 the right of them, and every one goes, what was that? 0:19:39.520 --> 0:19:42.720 And then it's over? What's over? Well, that little round 0:19:42.800 --> 0:19:44.560 is over. If you don't get the guy, you're done. 0:19:44.600 --> 0:19:47.080 You can't get off at a second shot. What happens. 0:19:47.720 --> 0:19:50.440 I think you gotta start over so they don't come 0:19:50.480 --> 0:19:52.480 at you or anything. No, no, they come at you 0:19:52.520 --> 0:19:55.479 and then you start over eventually. But so you have 0:19:55.560 --> 0:19:57.840 to aim over aim a lot of times because of 0:19:57.880 --> 0:20:00.520 things like gravity. And that was the fact of the 0:20:00.560 --> 0:20:05.199 show to me. The gravity one. If you drop a bullet, 0:20:05.760 --> 0:20:08.520 If you aim a gun a sniper rifle and then 0:20:09.000 --> 0:20:11.240 shoot it level to the ground and you drop a 0:20:11.280 --> 0:20:13.600 bullet at the same height as the barrel, they're both 0:20:13.600 --> 0:20:16.320 gonna hit the ground at the same time because of gravity. 0:20:16.600 --> 0:20:21.000 That's that's the fact of the show for sure. Um, Chuck. 0:20:21.040 --> 0:20:23.919 What you're talking about can be adjusted for in the 0:20:24.000 --> 0:20:28.240 scope through the ballistic drop compensator, which is a little 0:20:28.280 --> 0:20:30.959 dial so you don't have to go redo your whole 0:20:31.080 --> 0:20:33.320 scope settings and all that. You can just adjust it 0:20:33.359 --> 0:20:35.040 up or down or left or right just a little 0:20:35.040 --> 0:20:39.399 bit to compensate for gravity. And um. The other like 0:20:39.520 --> 0:20:42.480 wind and that's what you see him doing. Yeah, they're like, 0:20:43.080 --> 0:20:45.120 you know, wind it two nots you seed Markey, Mark, 0:20:45.160 --> 0:20:48.960 go click, that's all you need to do. That's it. 0:20:49.000 --> 0:20:53.000 One little click, gun shoots itself, not true. Um. And 0:20:53.040 --> 0:20:57.399 then there's also these things called Gillie suits, which, um, 0:20:57.440 --> 0:21:01.119 anytime you see a sniper or you don't see a sniper, 0:21:01.119 --> 0:21:03.360 and then all of a sudden he stands up from 0:21:03.400 --> 0:21:05.720 the leaves and brush and all that in front of 0:21:05.760 --> 0:21:09.000 you and he's wearing what looks like leaves and brush. 0:21:09.040 --> 0:21:11.240 That's called the Gillie suit, which has a pretty cool 0:21:11.240 --> 0:21:13.680 little history to it. I like it. Go ahead. So 0:21:14.119 --> 0:21:18.879 gillies um were the Irish game wardens Scottish game wardens 0:21:19.440 --> 0:21:22.800 from days of your uh, and basically their job was 0:21:22.840 --> 0:21:28.040 to keep an eye on the landowners um game right 0:21:28.080 --> 0:21:32.159 while game that he liked to hunt um and the 0:21:32.240 --> 0:21:36.480 gilly once in a while would have to basically catch 0:21:36.520 --> 0:21:39.000 a deer or something like that, say bring it back 0:21:39.040 --> 0:21:43.119 to the castle for the landowner to hunt in a 0:21:43.240 --> 0:21:46.760 mock hunt and kill the deer. But he couldn't just 0:21:46.840 --> 0:21:48.680 kill the deer and bring it. He had to bring 0:21:48.720 --> 0:21:51.840 it alive. So this meant days of stalking a deer, 0:21:52.000 --> 0:21:55.840 staying completely silent, camouflaging himself with stuff found in the 0:21:56.000 --> 0:21:59.400 in the local environment, and then waiting for a deer 0:21:59.400 --> 0:22:01.560 to walk by in jumping on it, grabbing it. Can 0:22:01.600 --> 0:22:04.120 you imagine these dudes and then dragging it back to 0:22:04.200 --> 0:22:08.119 the castle for this mock hunt. Yeah, so think about 0:22:08.160 --> 0:22:12.720 how despised the nobleman must have been for his little 0:22:12.800 --> 0:22:17.639 mock hunt in between glasses of sherry of a deer 0:22:17.680 --> 0:22:20.040 that the Gillie caught with his bare hands after waiting 0:22:20.040 --> 0:22:22.320 two days for it to walk past him, you know, 0:22:23.080 --> 0:22:25.040 and then they just killed the deer like when they 0:22:25.040 --> 0:22:27.480 bring it in because like his gout and his flaring 0:22:27.560 --> 0:22:29.080 up so you can't even get out of his chair. 0:22:30.160 --> 0:22:34.240 So yeah, it's like early internet hunting. Oh yeah, God. 0:22:34.440 --> 0:22:38.280 They outlawed that pretty quickly, thank goodness, because it was awful. 0:22:38.280 --> 0:22:41.080 I almost had to write an article on that. Did 0:22:41.119 --> 0:22:43.640 you get out of it? Yeah? I refused. I said, 0:22:43.720 --> 0:22:45.960 you know what, I'm not even gonna put this out 0:22:45.960 --> 0:22:48.760 there as something that exists. And they went, you know what, 0:22:49.000 --> 0:22:50.480 you may be right on this one. And then like 0:22:50.520 --> 0:22:54.000