WEBVTT - Part Three: Romana Didulo: Queen of Canada

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<v Speaker 1>Also media a welcome back to the podcast that this

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<v Speaker 1>is part three of our episodes on Queen Romana.

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<v Speaker 2>Dig Youelo of Canada. Uh and you know, Canadians, thank

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<v Speaker 2>you for letting us talk about your your monarch. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>your your your leader that I know you all love

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<v Speaker 2>and respect and I hope that we're being you know,

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<v Speaker 2>positively deferential towards towards your your great ruler. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's I'm sorry, it's just so sad that Canada has

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<v Speaker 2>to deal with having this crazy person run their country.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, can you imagine really like having like a

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<v Speaker 2>crazy asshole in charge of your country? Just like, thank god,

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<v Speaker 2>the just a Canada problem, Jesus.

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<v Speaker 1>I know.

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<v Speaker 2>It's okay, guys, you'll get your shit together one of

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<v Speaker 2>these days, like we have in the Americas like us.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess you're in the Americas too. Whatever anyway, too

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<v Speaker 2>in by Greenland. All right, right, So August twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 2>one to December twenty twenty one were very busy times

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<v Speaker 2>for the Queen of Canada. She hits like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>like her peak at least, this is when Christine Startechi says,

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<v Speaker 2>she hits her peak number of followers, which is like

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<v Speaker 2>seventy something thousand on telegram now at this point in time,

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<v Speaker 2>because inflation is a problem, and because the economies not

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<v Speaker 2>doing great, and because her followers haven't been paying their bills,

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<v Speaker 2>she's focused a lot on, like the fine on providing

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<v Speaker 2>like what would look like lifelines to the finances of

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<v Speaker 2>her people. She's got like these grocery pages that are

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<v Speaker 2>supposed to like help her followers like purchase groceries, find

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<v Speaker 2>groceries that they can like afford, and stuff she's issuing

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<v Speaker 2>like decrees eliminating taxes and credit card debt. And she's

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<v Speaker 2>issue doing like fake money, and it's unclear how this

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<v Speaker 2>is supposed to work. It's like a promissory note that

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<v Speaker 2>you can print out from a downloadable template with like

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<v Speaker 2>instructions that says you can use this money wherever you are.

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<v Speaker 2>They're payable by the Kingdom of Canada. She also describes

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<v Speaker 2>this as working basically the same as like money at

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<v Speaker 2>the at like the Canadian Tire Company, which like is

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<v Speaker 2>is this company that like sells I think mostly used tires,

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<v Speaker 2>and they have their own like fake company currency, right

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<v Speaker 2>that like you can use for stuff within if you're

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<v Speaker 2>paying for other products you can like accumulate it. A

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<v Speaker 2>lot of businesses do this, and that's kind of which

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<v Speaker 2>makes it very unclear how is this supposed to work?

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<v Speaker 2>Who is supposed to accept this right? Like what is

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<v Speaker 2>the and that's actually never made clear to me. These

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<v Speaker 2>promisory notes. I'll pull one up for I'll do a

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<v Speaker 2>screen share so you can you can see what these

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<v Speaker 2>fucking things look like.

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<v Speaker 3>Real groceries. We made up money.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think that the idea is like they're supposed

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<v Speaker 2>to find, well, it looks like a check.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it looks it looks.

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<v Speaker 2>Kind of like a check. It's a promisory note. You

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<v Speaker 2>get to write your own number in, so it's a

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<v Speaker 2>blank check for all of your all of your followers.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>It's really unclear to me how even her followers were

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<v Speaker 2>supposed to believe this stuff worked. But obviously like it

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't of course not. But you do have people like

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<v Speaker 2>printing these out and she issues them when she's as

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<v Speaker 2>they're driving around, they're stopping in towns and they're meeting

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<v Speaker 2>up with like whatever followers they have in these individual towns,

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<v Speaker 2>and she's handing these out to people, you know, so

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<v Speaker 2>I think some of them just believe like, eventually, when

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<v Speaker 2>this is valued, I'll finally be rich. You know. It's

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<v Speaker 2>that's part of the whole big idea that like, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>there's a change coming and it's going to completely alter

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<v Speaker 2>my financial situation, and that that makes you kind of

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<v Speaker 2>want to have.

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<v Speaker 3>To believe her. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, she continues making decrees. This is like the primary

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<v Speaker 2>way that she interacts with her followers, and as Sartagi writes,

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<v Speaker 2>the Kingdom of Canada was guided by three basic laws.

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<v Speaker 2>Quote number one, if you kill, you will be killed.

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<v Speaker 2>Number two, if you kill and mass commit genocide crimes

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<v Speaker 2>against humanity, we will take out your family and your

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<v Speaker 2>DNA strain. We'll go back to that in a second.

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<v Speaker 3>Three. War in division are unlawful.

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<v Speaker 2>So if you commit crimes, we're gonna kill your family

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<v Speaker 2>and your DNA strain.

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<v Speaker 3>War in division are unlawful. I thought you was telling

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<v Speaker 3>us to kill the doctors. Yeah, that's the Yeah, you

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<v Speaker 3>got to kill the doctors. But you can't divide people.

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<v Speaker 3>Prop that's unlawful. No dividing people.

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<v Speaker 2>Kill all the doctors and the nurses, and the school

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<v Speaker 2>divisions and the business, but don't divide people, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't cut off your DNA strand again.

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<v Speaker 4>YEA, feel like that's got to be a translation issue

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<v Speaker 4>because I'm like, I don't think do you you might

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<v Speaker 4>actually mean that because you're an alien.

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<v Speaker 3>Yep.

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<v Speaker 2>She does describe her office, the Royal Office of Queen Romana,

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<v Speaker 2>to be the highest court in the land, and thus

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<v Speaker 2>all Canadian lawyers are now defunct because they have their

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<v Speaker 2>members of the British Accreditation Registry as opposed to, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the real judicial system that she, I guess hasn't gotten

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<v Speaker 2>around to building yet, you.

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<v Speaker 3>Know, commits a bit homie. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So in January of twenty twenty two, Romana's like tour

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<v Speaker 2>of Canada really takes off in a big way. She's

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<v Speaker 2>got about a dozen followers. She's got a group of

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<v Speaker 2>RVs and they start traveling, you know, initially into like

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<v Speaker 2>downtown Ottawa, but after that point they just kind of

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<v Speaker 2>continue going right, Like she's meeting people at various small towns.

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<v Speaker 2>She's expanding her conception of like what's you know, my

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<v Speaker 2>powers are. She's making declarations as to martial law, and

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<v Speaker 2>they're just kind of like driving constantly.

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<v Speaker 3>She's taking it.

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<v Speaker 2>She's taken in six figures at this point, well over

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred and forty thousand dollars in donations. It's unclear

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<v Speaker 2>exactly how, but that's what's got to pay for everything,

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<v Speaker 2>because they're RVs are not cheap to drive, right, and

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<v Speaker 2>she's got to continue like paying for that. She's got

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<v Speaker 2>to pay for uniforms for her people, as we'll talk about,

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<v Speaker 2>Like there's a lot of there's a lot of expenses.

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<v Speaker 3>Due to this. So who who's who?

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<v Speaker 2>She's got like seventy thousand people on telegram, so some things.

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<v Speaker 2>Some of them are getting our money, you know, and

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<v Speaker 2>it only takes a few. And she's also got a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of her followers that are in person followers. She's

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<v Speaker 2>completely soaking, like they're signing over everything to her, right,

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<v Speaker 2>like she's she's doing that thing too.

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<v Speaker 3>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>As twenty twenty two goes along, she's the road trip

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<v Speaker 2>Queen of Canada. She's issuing these these declarations, but she

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<v Speaker 2>starts to expand what she's offering her followers, because you know,

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<v Speaker 2>grocery lists and fake money only go so far. What

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<v Speaker 2>people really want is magical powers. And in August of

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty two, she announces that she has started teaching

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<v Speaker 2>her followers powers to her followers.

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<v Speaker 3>She gets on.

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<v Speaker 2>Basically, she makes a video saying that like, I've started

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<v Speaker 2>teaching people, you know, given an intensive class and how

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<v Speaker 2>people can think like me and act like commander in chief.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm teaching them all how to run a country

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<v Speaker 2>if that's ever necessary. I'm teaching them how to like

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<v Speaker 2>take hostages and negotiate, which is not a great sign

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<v Speaker 2>for your cult. Per Christine Starteghi. Didulo also said she's

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<v Speaker 2>teaching her core followers how to cloak and uncloak themselves

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<v Speaker 2>and how to use high level technologies, including five G

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<v Speaker 2>that Digito claims will allow her trainees to see through

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<v Speaker 2>the walls of buildings and homes. She contends that all

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<v Speaker 2>science fiction movies and television series are disclosures, documentaries, and diaries.

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<v Speaker 2>Both the television series Star Trek and the movie The

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<v Speaker 2>Tomorrow War seems to have had an unusually strong influence

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<v Speaker 2>on Digitlo. The Tomorrow War is her life storyline. Perhaps

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<v Speaker 2>have you ever seen The Tomorrow War?

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<v Speaker 3>No? No one did, No one did.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure someone in the audience to watch The fucking

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<v Speaker 2>Tomorrow War, but statistically you didn't.

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<v Speaker 3>No idea what you're talking about.

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<v Speaker 2>Great, great, It's a twenty twenty one sci fi movie

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<v Speaker 2>starring Chris Pratt in which soldiers from the future come

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<v Speaker 2>back to the present day to warn humanity that in

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<v Speaker 2>the future we're losing a war against alien invaders, and

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<v Speaker 2>so they need to draft the whole present day military

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<v Speaker 2>to go back to the future and fight them.

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<v Speaker 3>And then when we run out.

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<v Speaker 2>Of present day military, they just start drafting regular people

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<v Speaker 2>to go to the future.

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<v Speaker 4>I think I purposefully said watch this.

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<v Speaker 3>Nah, they don't sound good. I was like, anything to

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<v Speaker 3>watch this, I know on board. But you lost me

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<v Speaker 3>at Chris Pratt.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you lost me at Chris.

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<v Speaker 2>So it grossed about twenty million dollars in theaters from

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<v Speaker 2>a budget of two hundred million or so. So it

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<v Speaker 2>does not do well. People are People Are like the

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<v Speaker 2>writer and director of this movie are dragged out into

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<v Speaker 2>the street and shot in downtown Hollywood.

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<v Speaker 3>It is such a failure.

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<v Speaker 2>But Queen Romana loves this movie because she idolizes the

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<v Speaker 2>Queen Alien like the bad guy of the movie. I think,

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't seen this fucking movie. But the aliens are

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<v Speaker 2>called the White Spikes, and the Queen of the White

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<v Speaker 2>Spikes is stronger than all of the males of her species,

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<v Speaker 2>and Ramana seems to really really vibe with this, Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Sarteeshi ties this movie to Romana's belief in something called

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<v Speaker 2>DNA X, which she describes as God's tool that she

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<v Speaker 2>plans to release to every living all caps I AM

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<v Speaker 2>in the world to go back to that weird little

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<v Speaker 2>cult that we started this with. Dang, I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>what this means as best as I can tell, I

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<v Speaker 2>think because the original I Am movement was based on

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<v Speaker 2>this guy, this fucking dude hundreds of years ago who'd

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<v Speaker 2>claimed to be immortal and all knowing because of magic,

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<v Speaker 2>and the im movement was like, no, there's all these

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<v Speaker 2>it's actually like this divine there's this set of tactics

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<v Speaker 2>that you can find. It is still quasi a cult,

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<v Speaker 2>and she's taking basically those claimton saying no, no, it's

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<v Speaker 2>not the occult. You can have all of these powers

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<v Speaker 2>by alien DNA technology.

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<v Speaker 3>That will make you look walk and all knowing. Right.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's the gist of it. It's a little

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<v Speaker 2>unclear to me exactly what she believes because it's silly,

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<v Speaker 2>but that's because what's the handle, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, because what the hell?

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<v Speaker 2>Two is spent largely on the road and a caravan

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<v Speaker 2>of RVs, one of which was gifted to her and

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<v Speaker 2>several of which were printed. The exact makeup of her

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<v Speaker 2>COLT shifts rapidly at this point. For one thing, formerly

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<v Speaker 2>loyal members don't last forever, right, Like, people find this

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<v Speaker 2>and think that it's a good idea, and then she

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<v Speaker 2>starts to be a crazy asshole to them, and eventually

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<v Speaker 2>they have enough and they're like, this isn't fun anymore,

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<v Speaker 2>and they belki.

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<v Speaker 4>It right, other people get what I need the water

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<v Speaker 4>turned on, Okay, right.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm tired of not having watering. Yeah, So people will leave,

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<v Speaker 2>but other people will come in. So there's kind of

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<v Speaker 2>and it's never large. The in person following is never

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<v Speaker 2>bigger than like much bigger than like a dozen people,

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<v Speaker 2>but there is some like people will leave, people will

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<v Speaker 2>come in. That's sort of happening, right. She's also purging

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<v Speaker 2>people for making mistakes periodically, which keeps the numbers down.

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<v Speaker 2>She has at this point by the time twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 2>two rules around her followers have uniforms. These are generally

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<v Speaker 2>white button up shirts with the Queen Romana logo and

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<v Speaker 2>blastened on them. Often adorned with official medals that she

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<v Speaker 2>awarded in her capacity as Canadian Commander in Chief, right, like,

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<v Speaker 2>and these are because like the question whenever you've got

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<v Speaker 2>one of these people handing out medals is like.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, what kind of metals are these? Are you?

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<v Speaker 1>Like?

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<v Speaker 2>Are these fake military medals? Are these like bottle calfs?

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<v Speaker 2>Like what are we looking at here? And as best

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<v Speaker 2>as I can tell, I think that these are, at

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<v Speaker 2>least from what I have read. And I think this

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<v Speaker 2>is mac Lamoreau who made this claim, and I'm sure

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<v Speaker 2>he's right. These are like mostly boy scout medals like

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<v Speaker 2>these are like boy Scout awarts.

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<v Speaker 5>Love it, love it, change nothing, it's it's it's good stuff. Yeah, dude,

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<v Speaker 5>how come nobody in this whole situation was like can

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<v Speaker 5>I meet a like a prince or like like you

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<v Speaker 5>ain't got no like accountant like this whole like I

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<v Speaker 5>ain't never met nobody else in this kingdom?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, like does anybody work for you?

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<v Speaker 2>You're the only one who believes you're the queen? And

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<v Speaker 2>I guess the people who live in this RV and

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<v Speaker 2>the handful of folks that we meet traveling, you know, yeah, but.

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<v Speaker 5>None of them are a part of your court, Like who, yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>where's the rest of your administration?

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<v Speaker 3>Right?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, where's the rest of this doesn't feel like a

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<v Speaker 2>government again. That's that gets down to the hole. I

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<v Speaker 2>think there's a lot of like play acting. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>it takes you to tango with something like this. I

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<v Speaker 2>do want to show you, guys these uniforms because they're

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<v Speaker 2>not as elaborate as they might sound. From what I

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<v Speaker 2>it's mostly she's just got people wearing like white shirts

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<v Speaker 2>with fucking metals and stuff on them. But yeah, like

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<v Speaker 2>those and those are as soon as I saw peopre like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>those do look like boy Scout metals. Look like boy

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<v Speaker 2>Scout metals.

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<v Speaker 3>That's not a uniform, and those are boy Scout medals. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>they're just all dressed in white.

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<v Speaker 6>They look a little look like a golf caddies.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, they look like he's got his all access pass on,

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<v Speaker 4>like and you can see behind him.

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<v Speaker 2>As an r V that has like meet and greet

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<v Speaker 2>her Majesty Queen Romana, YadA YadA YadA like that. This

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<v Speaker 2>is this is how they drive around their Their RVs

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<v Speaker 2>are also billboards. He's got his finger pointed up at

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<v Speaker 2>the sky, which is a thing that all of her

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<v Speaker 2>followers do. I think they took this from this is

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<v Speaker 2>a thing in like the Muslim world, like you'll see,

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<v Speaker 2>like it basically means that, like, you know, God's in

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<v Speaker 2>charge right all right, Like that's the idea at him.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if that's what it means to her

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<v Speaker 2>for her followers to.

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<v Speaker 3>Do that, but they are.

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<v Speaker 2>That is the gesture they're doing, and that's I'm sure

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<v Speaker 2>that's where it can imagine must have just seen it

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<v Speaker 2>on TV or something and liked it.

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<v Speaker 3>Dang, imagine being that guy and then now you're like,

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<v Speaker 3>that's on the internet forever.

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<v Speaker 2>That's on the internet forever. You in this uniform with

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<v Speaker 2>like whatever fucking id she made for you hanging around

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<v Speaker 2>your neck and your boy Scout awards for being the

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<v Speaker 2>best special boy in the cult whatever. Damn, Like one

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<v Speaker 2>day that's he's Because the guy in this is pretty young.

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<v Speaker 2>He looks like he's in his twenties, maybe thirty. Like

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<v Speaker 2>if he doesn't have kids, he very well might one

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<v Speaker 2>day and some day they're gonna find that, Hey, dad,

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<v Speaker 2>are you in a uniform? What are these awards? Is

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<v Speaker 2>that Let's say the Queen of Canada's RV. Let me

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<v Speaker 2>tell you a story about the time Dad made a mistake.

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<v Speaker 2>Queen did youulo was incredibly is incredibly serious about her schedule,

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<v Speaker 2>and one of the worst things you can do if

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<v Speaker 2>you really want to get kicked out of this cult,

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<v Speaker 2>the easiest way to do it is to cost her time,

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<v Speaker 2>because that is a capital offense. Corey, one of her

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<v Speaker 2>form inner circle members, lost his position after a series

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<v Speaker 2>of minor errors, including booking an RV to be picked

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<v Speaker 2>up at five pm instead of four pm. The Queen

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<v Speaker 2>called this treason and threatened to have him executed. She'd

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<v Speaker 2>done this numerous times before, and mac Lamora notes that

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<v Speaker 2>the methods varied from quote being shot in the head

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<v Speaker 2>or thrown from a helicopter. So she's saying, like, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to have my men shoot you in the head.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna throw you out of a helicopter because you

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<v Speaker 2>made me wait an hour to get in my new

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<v Speaker 2>RV that you rented.

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<v Speaker 3>Forticulous. I am royalty. Yeah, I need to borrow this RV. Right.

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<v Speaker 2>She justifies these punishments to the rest of our followers

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<v Speaker 2>by saying, nobody controls my timeline. Anybody that screws up

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<v Speaker 2>my timeline is going to be tried for treason and

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<v Speaker 2>shot in the head.

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<v Speaker 3>Except for.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, they might have more control over your timeline here,

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<v Speaker 2>but you know who won't have you tried for treason

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<v Speaker 2>and shot in the head?

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<v Speaker 3>Prop hey better not better not sponsored this podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Very rarely have people shot in the head, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not going to say never. I'm not going to

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<v Speaker 2>say never. Might be doing an ad. They've definitely had

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<v Speaker 2>some people shot in the head, you know.

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<v Speaker 6>But can you stop naming brands.

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<v Speaker 2>Please, Sophie one knows they've had some people shot in

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<v Speaker 2>the head. It's fine, we don't. We all keep drinking

0:16:18.200 --> 0:16:20.360
<v Speaker 2>the soda. It's okay.

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<v Speaker 3>The soda can literally clean your car battery and we

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<v Speaker 3>still drink it.

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<v Speaker 1>Please believe the name of the brand.

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<v Speaker 2>No, don't know what it is when when prompt said

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<v Speaker 2>it eats car batteries, now you have to keep the bit.

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<v Speaker 2>But still anyway, here's ads and we're back. You're killing me, Yeah, baby,

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<v Speaker 2>we might and everybody.

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<v Speaker 3>Just like I mean you, you're doing numbers. We might.

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<v Speaker 4>We might want that that sponsor money. Though they did

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<v Speaker 4>invent the visual description as.

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<v Speaker 2>So as I noted earlier, Corey and Daisy were foundational

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<v Speaker 2>cult members. Romana wouldn't have gotten this crazy train off

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<v Speaker 2>the ground without them, and this did not stop her

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<v Speaker 2>from abusing them relentlessly. The people you are most reliant

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<v Speaker 2>on are the people you're going to be most shitty

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<v Speaker 2>on if you're this kind of cult leader.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And in fact, the fact that they were so useful

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<v Speaker 2>and key may have encouraged her to abuse them. Maybe

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<v Speaker 2>she felt kind of insecure that she needed them so much,

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<v Speaker 2>and she she was really trying to keep them beaten down.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't actually know, but the two were doing a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>They went from managing her telegram channels to becoming her bodyguard,

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<v Speaker 2>mechanic and secretary. Daisy was also the Royal Bank account,

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<v Speaker 2>setting up fundraisers and taking donations on behalf of the Queen.

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<v Speaker 2>Didulo made impossible demands regularly to these people, and whenever

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<v Speaker 2>money came up short or the built in limitations of

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<v Speaker 2>technology thwarted her, whims of the moment, she would bully Daisy,

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<v Speaker 2>who later said the abuse was NonStop. It was never ending,

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<v Speaker 2>no proper meals, you know, no sleep, she continued, She

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<v Speaker 2>did care. She said, if you work for the Queen,

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<v Speaker 2>you work for the queen, you volunteered to be here.

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<v Speaker 2>Why are you complaining? And like she's got a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit of a point, She's she's got a little a point. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>Like why do you have to be here? You knew

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<v Speaker 2>what you were You should have known what you were

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<v Speaker 2>getting into with this this dumb bullshit, Like come on now,

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<v Speaker 2>like you know what you were getting into?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we do.

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<v Speaker 6>We have any idea how old this married couple Daisy

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<v Speaker 6>and I've forgotten the name of.

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<v Speaker 2>Guessing they were mature adults, probably in middle aged. Maybe

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<v Speaker 2>we'll pass it a decent number of but they're not all.

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<v Speaker 2>Some of them are pretty young. I don't actually know

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<v Speaker 2>they're they're like age range, but you know they're they're

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<v Speaker 2>old enough to know better. Yeah, yeah, sure. So during

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<v Speaker 2>her months with the Queen, Daisy estimates that she lost

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<v Speaker 2>between ten and fifteen pounds. Mark Lammereau, who interviewed a

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<v Speaker 2>number of former followers, describes the degree of troll the

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<v Speaker 2>Queen exercised over the day to day lives of her

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<v Speaker 2>immediate tribe as pretty extensive. People would have to ask

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<v Speaker 2>her for permission to even shower, which she periodically denied

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<v Speaker 2>some individuals for days at a time.

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<v Speaker 6>And why is that a Thingermber, It's pretty normal cult leaders.

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<v Speaker 2>It's control over their bodies, over even like their ability

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<v Speaker 2>to clean themselves. You're you're practicing, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>You're in such closing in the RV.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 6>Such close quarters and your punishment as that everybody has

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<v Speaker 6>to smell, numbers and stink.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's crazy. Well she's not.

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<v Speaker 2>She's the the r V where the people stay. It's

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<v Speaker 2>different from the Queen's r V.

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<v Speaker 3>True of Oh I forgot, she got the royal RV.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, she sometimes had a separate RV just to use

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<v Speaker 2>as a bathroom.

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<v Speaker 3>This lady has figured some out.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh huh again, she is living well based on her

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<v Speaker 2>previous life. She's doing really good.

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<v Speaker 4>In relation to Yeah, but that's weird. Body control about smell.

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<v Speaker 4>I feel like I would want people to smell amazing

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<v Speaker 4>in front of me.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm royal. If I'm royal, it's three showers a day, y'all.

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<v Speaker 2>C Yes, it's just about exercise and control. If you

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<v Speaker 2>can get them to do that, you can get them

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<v Speaker 2>to do anything, you know. True, and Romana spends most

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<v Speaker 2>despite claiming that she's she's taking back Canada.

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<v Speaker 3>She's the rightful ruler.

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<v Speaker 2>All of her time has spent managing her followers, this

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<v Speaker 2>very small number of in person. That's what she does

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<v Speaker 2>her most of them right, right, And that's most of

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<v Speaker 2>her work is keeping these people busy, you know, keep

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<v Speaker 2>these people too busy and too beaten down to leave

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<v Speaker 2>or to realize that like they're in, like how fucked

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<v Speaker 2>up the situation. Is part of how she does this

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<v Speaker 2>is she she hands up every morning. The day starts

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<v Speaker 2>with her gathering everyone together and issuing them their tasks

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<v Speaker 2>for the day. And we're talking a mix of stuff,

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<v Speaker 2>like we're all living in RV's, so there's waste tanks

0:20:53.720 --> 0:20:57.359
<v Speaker 2>that have to be emptied, there's water tanks they have

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<v Speaker 2>to be refilled, there's food that has to be purchased.

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<v Speaker 2>But there's also bullshit work, like we need new signs

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<v Speaker 2>for the vehicles. I need someone to print out a

0:21:04.640 --> 0:21:07.080
<v Speaker 2>bunch of these fake money things to hand out at

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<v Speaker 2>the next stop. Right, And she's the point of this

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<v Speaker 2>is there's some stuff that has to get done. There's

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of busy work. What's most important, though, is

0:21:14.880 --> 0:21:17.920
<v Speaker 2>that she's keeping everyone busy all day. People would regularly

0:21:17.920 --> 0:21:20.960
<v Speaker 2>work sixteen hours at a time. But she's keeping the

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<v Speaker 2>busy doing mostly bullshit tasks or like petty work tasks

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<v Speaker 2>that they don't get anything done.

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<v Speaker 3>They're not there.

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<v Speaker 2>They came here to be part of this crusade to

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<v Speaker 2>fix Canada, and all they're doing is like maintaining the

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<v Speaker 2>caravan and handling bullshit work for her, printing stuff out

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<v Speaker 2>or making new signs or whatever and so. And this

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<v Speaker 2>is something former members will say, It's like I felt

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<v Speaker 2>like I worked all the time and nothing ever got done.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, Yeah, you're just running a how cold? Running a

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<v Speaker 3>Kinko's just too.

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<v Speaker 2>Basically you think you think about it, this isn't so

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<v Speaker 2>unique to her. It's it's shabbier and sadder because this

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<v Speaker 2>is just like ten people or twelve people living in

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<v Speaker 2>a series of RVs. But that's what scientology is, right,

0:22:04.119 --> 0:22:06.080
<v Speaker 2>that's the whole point. And you have, yeah, you have

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<v Speaker 2>the Sea Org and you have all these people, these

0:22:07.760 --> 0:22:11.280
<v Speaker 2>auditors doing It's that you have petty work and tasks

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<v Speaker 2>to keep the people who are full time members of

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<v Speaker 2>the cult constantly working, right, You want them always using

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<v Speaker 2>up their energy, otherwise they're going to put that energy

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<v Speaker 2>towards maybe realizing that they're in a fucking cult, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>And Didulo's goal was to make sure everyone's exhausted and

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<v Speaker 2>working all the time so they don't have time to

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<v Speaker 2>plot against her. One good example of this would be

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<v Speaker 2>the account of a cult member who claims Romana made

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<v Speaker 2>her wake up at four am to turn on her

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<v Speaker 2>hotel coffee maker. She would do stuff like this, demand

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<v Speaker 2>people do very basic tasks for her. Yeah, that shouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>even be necessary, just because it's an exertion. It's her

0:22:45.080 --> 0:22:46.959
<v Speaker 2>use exercise and control.

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<v Speaker 3>Right. Yeah, that's that's that's some bully gang stuff right there.

0:22:50.320 --> 0:22:53.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, life inside the cult on the road sounds like

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<v Speaker 2>living hell to me. Here's one description of how Romana

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<v Speaker 2>liked to start off their days. Per an article advice quote,

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<v Speaker 2>every morning, at six or seven am, the queen would

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<v Speaker 2>play her favorite song, disco supergroup bony m smash hit Rasputant,

0:23:06.600 --> 0:23:10.639
<v Speaker 2>about the well endowed Russian mystic of the same name. Often,

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<v Speaker 2>the funky vibes would last an hour. Once Didjulo played

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<v Speaker 2>Rasputant for the entire duration of a ten hour drive

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<v Speaker 2>while her staff just sat and listened. Her followers even

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<v Speaker 2>recorded their own version of the song with lyrics about her, and.

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<v Speaker 3>It's the worst anti ever, Like, yeah, oh man.

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<v Speaker 2>It's all like ten hours a fucking rasp buttant and

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<v Speaker 2>I love that song. It's a great, it's a great.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a banger of a hit, don't get me wrong,

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<v Speaker 2>But ten hours of that and her obsession with it

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<v Speaker 2>is so weird. Like there's a I'll pull up, there's

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<v Speaker 2>a like you should actually hear her followers version.

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<v Speaker 3>Of Respue Me Too. I was going to be my

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<v Speaker 3>next request.

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<v Speaker 2>So if you want to, if you listen in check

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<v Speaker 2>in to the QAnon Anonymous episodes.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's the second one about Ramana that has

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<v Speaker 2>with mac Lamreau that as the actual audio of the song.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want us to get copyright struck, and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>kind of worried that we might, especially what with the

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<v Speaker 2>Netflix thing going on. So I'm just gonna actually sing

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<v Speaker 2>you the lyrics, So you're gonna get to listen to

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<v Speaker 2>me sing yes as best as I can recall in

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<v Speaker 2>tune to the original song resputin by Boney m Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>Are we ready?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, there lives a fearless Queen Romana.

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<v Speaker 3>Did you low?

0:24:23.200 --> 0:24:26.560
<v Speaker 2>She may seem quite small, but she's oh so powerful.

0:24:26.880 --> 0:24:31.080
<v Speaker 2>When communists a mess to subjugate her peeps, She's summoned

0:24:31.080 --> 0:24:37.680
<v Speaker 2>allied forces to obliterate. Queen Romana lives for we the people. Strong,

0:24:37.800 --> 0:24:44.080
<v Speaker 2>benevolent and just. She's discreet, lee waking, sleeping people, daily

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<v Speaker 2>building trust. Rah Rah Romana, Precious Queen of Canada. She's

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<v Speaker 2>taken names and she's kicking ass. Rah Rah Romana, Precious

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<v Speaker 2>Queen of Canada. Please hop on board or get off

0:24:57.720 --> 0:25:00.400
<v Speaker 2>the bus. And there's a lot more to it. There's

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<v Speaker 2>a fun line. She's liberating earth with wisdom and with grace.

0:25:03.720 --> 0:25:07.600
<v Speaker 2>But if her RV's rockin', she is dancing late, That's

0:25:07.600 --> 0:25:10.399
<v Speaker 2>that's weird. That's a weird line to that's weird in them.

0:25:10.640 --> 0:25:12.120
<v Speaker 2>Kind of makes me wonder if there's some weird sex

0:25:12.119 --> 0:25:12.800
<v Speaker 2>stuff going on.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know. But yeah, it's great.

0:25:17.000 --> 0:25:21.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah again, Yeah, beautiful stuff, beautiful stuff. We all love

0:25:21.720 --> 0:25:24.680
<v Speaker 2>to see people repurposing Boney M's work for the good

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<v Speaker 2>of the world.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, so, as you might expect.

0:25:28.880 --> 0:25:31.840
<v Speaker 2>Hearing hours and hours of the song raspute and played

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<v Speaker 2>over and over again. Even though that song's kind of

0:25:34.240 --> 0:25:36.639
<v Speaker 2>a banger, might lead some people in the colt to

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<v Speaker 2>wonder like, well, as Corey put it, oh my fucking lord,

0:25:39.880 --> 0:25:40.720
<v Speaker 2>what are we doing?

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<v Speaker 3>What the hell?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, she's yelling we got a war people, time to

0:25:45.320 --> 0:25:49.560
<v Speaker 2>get up and dancing around like a lunatic. So this

0:25:49.640 --> 0:25:52.359
<v Speaker 2>start does start to wear short on some people. The

0:25:52.440 --> 0:25:57.919
<v Speaker 2>ridiculousness is kind of hard to continue to uh stretch

0:25:57.960 --> 0:26:01.159
<v Speaker 2>your sense of disbelief towards. One former member of the

0:26:01.160 --> 0:26:03.359
<v Speaker 2>group told Weiss that one day he took one of

0:26:03.359 --> 0:26:05.760
<v Speaker 2>their RVs out to do errands, like there were parts

0:26:05.800 --> 0:26:08.040
<v Speaker 2>that they needed to pick up, I think for like

0:26:08.119 --> 0:26:11.000
<v Speaker 2>their streaming rig. They needed to get food for dinner,

0:26:11.240 --> 0:26:13.199
<v Speaker 2>so this was stuff he needed to do. But he

0:26:13.240 --> 0:26:16.760
<v Speaker 2>didn't get Queen Romana's permission beforehand, like he didn't double

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<v Speaker 2>check with her. I can take the RV out, I

0:26:18.680 --> 0:26:22.040
<v Speaker 2>have to go on an errand, and she exploded at him,

0:26:22.040 --> 0:26:25.080
<v Speaker 2>relieving him of duty, alongside the members who had left

0:26:25.119 --> 0:26:27.159
<v Speaker 2>in the RV with him, just firing a bunch of

0:26:27.200 --> 0:26:29.639
<v Speaker 2>her cult members and saying, you can't split up the

0:26:29.680 --> 0:26:31.560
<v Speaker 2>convoy otherwise our military is.

0:26:31.520 --> 0:26:32.280
<v Speaker 3>Going to shoot you.

0:26:33.160 --> 0:26:36.080
<v Speaker 2>Okay, where where's the military that's going to shoot you?

0:26:36.560 --> 0:26:37.399
<v Speaker 3>When the military?

0:26:37.680 --> 0:26:41.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah right, yeah, what military? And the former member who

0:26:41.760 --> 0:26:43.639
<v Speaker 2>gets kicked out is that guy named Cowan who was

0:26:43.960 --> 0:26:47.560
<v Speaker 2>He was disturbed at how distraught one of the one

0:26:47.600 --> 0:26:50.280
<v Speaker 2>of the cult members was that she fires that like this,

0:26:50.960 --> 0:26:52.760
<v Speaker 2>he's kind of I think done with it at this

0:26:52.840 --> 0:26:54.320
<v Speaker 2>point when she fires him, he's like.

0:26:54.280 --> 0:26:55.399
<v Speaker 3>Good, I'm out of here.

0:26:55.600 --> 0:26:58.960
<v Speaker 2>But this lady's like losing her mind, weeping and stuff.

0:26:59.280 --> 0:27:01.960
<v Speaker 2>Quote she really thought it was her destiny to be there.

0:27:02.560 --> 0:27:05.439
<v Speaker 2>And I think that that's gets that really gets something important.

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<v Speaker 2>I try to emphasize a few times. Some people are

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<v Speaker 2>begging to be in a cult, right. They are desperate

0:27:11.240 --> 0:27:15.200
<v Speaker 2>for any kind of meaning, right, yea, even this, even

0:27:15.240 --> 0:27:20.080
<v Speaker 2>something that it's something, it's more meaningful, go to work

0:27:20.119 --> 0:27:23.480
<v Speaker 2>and pay your bills, right yeah, anything.

0:27:23.280 --> 0:27:25.080
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, something important. Nah.

0:27:25.119 --> 0:27:27.480
<v Speaker 4>That's now we're getting at something because to weep for

0:27:27.480 --> 0:27:31.359
<v Speaker 4>about this rather than being like, yeah, this game is trash.

0:27:31.520 --> 0:27:33.040
<v Speaker 2>This is this was fucked up from the beginning, and

0:27:33.240 --> 0:27:35.840
<v Speaker 2>it just it's said, there's something like almost physically painful

0:27:35.880 --> 0:27:37.880
<v Speaker 2>to some people at being cut off from this when

0:27:37.920 --> 0:27:41.000
<v Speaker 2>you finally found it, right, when you finally found the

0:27:41.000 --> 0:27:42.600
<v Speaker 2>thing that gives you a sense of belonging and you

0:27:42.640 --> 0:27:44.760
<v Speaker 2>get kicked out of it, like that's.

0:27:44.560 --> 0:27:45.840
<v Speaker 3>Like losing a limb.

0:27:47.400 --> 0:27:50.679
<v Speaker 2>Cohen, though, is you know, he's fed up by the

0:27:50.680 --> 0:27:53.159
<v Speaker 2>time he gets fired, and so he takes his personal

0:27:53.200 --> 0:27:55.080
<v Speaker 2>video and recording equipment with him. He's one of the

0:27:55.119 --> 0:27:57.000
<v Speaker 2>guys who knew how to do things, who joined the

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<v Speaker 2>Cold and the Queen is not happy about this. She

0:28:00.160 --> 0:28:02.760
<v Speaker 2>gets on telegram, she declares him a thief. She claims

0:28:02.800 --> 0:28:05.840
<v Speaker 2>he's kidnapped other staff who left with him. She posts

0:28:05.920 --> 0:28:09.560
<v Speaker 2>videos of Cohen along with his picture and links to

0:28:09.600 --> 0:28:12.399
<v Speaker 2>his social media. She calls him a devil worshiper, and

0:28:12.480 --> 0:28:17.879
<v Speaker 2>she sentences him to death, and her followers, you know,

0:28:19.119 --> 0:28:22.240
<v Speaker 2>attack him with as much zealousness as they attacked all

0:28:22.240 --> 0:28:23.760
<v Speaker 2>of the other enemies of the group.

0:28:24.000 --> 0:28:24.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:28:24.640 --> 0:28:27.520
<v Speaker 2>One follower posted, he will not survive what is coming.

0:28:27.960 --> 0:28:30.919
<v Speaker 2>Another added that Cohen was quote a fan of Satan

0:28:31.000 --> 0:28:33.879
<v Speaker 2>and a trader, and another wrote maybe he should be

0:28:33.920 --> 0:28:36.160
<v Speaker 2>the first to hang publicly for all the other traders

0:28:36.560 --> 0:28:40.160
<v Speaker 2>to see what to expect. So that's kind of a

0:28:40.160 --> 0:28:43.400
<v Speaker 2>blister of at least things that are adjacent to death threats.

0:28:43.400 --> 0:28:44.360
<v Speaker 3>And all Cohen could.

0:28:44.240 --> 0:28:46.640
<v Speaker 2>Do was sort of hunker down to avoid the storm.

0:28:46.840 --> 0:28:48.880
<v Speaker 2>I didn't answer a single phone call, but my phone

0:28:48.880 --> 0:28:51.840
<v Speaker 2>was constantly blowing up with telegram messages and text messages.

0:28:52.080 --> 0:28:54.320
<v Speaker 2>Then a few people found my personal Facebook page and

0:28:54.320 --> 0:28:56.880
<v Speaker 2>commented randomly on some posts. One of them like a

0:28:56.920 --> 0:28:59.240
<v Speaker 2>six year old woman who looks really nice, and she

0:28:59.400 --> 0:29:03.480
<v Speaker 2>was like, you it will burn what, Well, it's just

0:29:03.520 --> 0:29:05.600
<v Speaker 2>the amount of rage when you tell people like this

0:29:06.360 --> 0:29:12.120
<v Speaker 2>your bullshit game that has become the entire core of

0:29:12.160 --> 0:29:12.920
<v Speaker 2>your like life.

0:29:12.960 --> 0:29:14.640
<v Speaker 3>This is all the only thing that excites you.

0:29:14.760 --> 0:29:16.800
<v Speaker 2>This is like, this is your friend group, this is

0:29:16.840 --> 0:29:20.280
<v Speaker 2>you're addicted to this, and this guy doesn't believe it.

0:29:20.360 --> 0:29:22.720
<v Speaker 2>He left even though he actually just got fired. Like, yeah,

0:29:22.800 --> 0:29:25.160
<v Speaker 2>you get enraged, and a part you're kind of taking

0:29:25.160 --> 0:29:26.960
<v Speaker 2>out your anger at the rest of the world on

0:29:27.120 --> 0:29:29.880
<v Speaker 2>this person because at some level they all know this

0:29:30.000 --> 0:29:35.200
<v Speaker 2>isn't real, right, and that makes them pissed. So, as

0:29:35.240 --> 0:29:37.440
<v Speaker 2>you might get from some of this, Romana's not wildly

0:29:37.520 --> 0:29:39.960
<v Speaker 2>loyal to her cult members, and in fact, she is

0:29:40.000 --> 0:29:42.600
<v Speaker 2>so unsatisfied with the quality of her first band of

0:29:42.640 --> 0:29:45.680
<v Speaker 2>cult members that she fires them all. This is one

0:29:45.680 --> 0:29:48.080
<v Speaker 2>of my favorite things about her story. It also kind

0:29:48.080 --> 0:29:50.840
<v Speaker 2>of hints at the weird resilience of her grift. From

0:29:50.840 --> 0:29:54.160
<v Speaker 2>what I can tell, it sounds like the breakdown started

0:29:54.200 --> 0:29:56.520
<v Speaker 2>because she was planning to extend her road trip into

0:29:56.560 --> 0:29:59.000
<v Speaker 2>the United States and a desperate attempt to avoid going

0:29:59.040 --> 0:30:00.719
<v Speaker 2>back to her normal life and to try to get

0:30:00.760 --> 0:30:01.880
<v Speaker 2>some of that American money.

0:30:01.960 --> 0:30:02.160
<v Speaker 3>Right.

0:30:02.320 --> 0:30:04.959
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, But some of her followers, including Cordy and Daisy,

0:30:05.160 --> 0:30:07.640
<v Speaker 2>had children, and we're like, well, we're just going to

0:30:07.640 --> 0:30:09.720
<v Speaker 2>Ottawa and then you like wanted to drive around for

0:30:09.720 --> 0:30:11.560
<v Speaker 2>a few months, and we were down with that, but

0:30:11.600 --> 0:30:14.560
<v Speaker 2>we can't do this forever. And so Raman is like, well,

0:30:14.560 --> 0:30:17.080
<v Speaker 2>if you have kids, simply have moved them in with

0:30:17.120 --> 0:30:21.080
<v Speaker 2>your family and then abandon them for the cause. And

0:30:21.440 --> 0:30:24.320
<v Speaker 2>a few of her followers have kids and they're like, what, Okay,

0:30:25.200 --> 0:30:27.000
<v Speaker 2>I didn't think that's what we were doing.

0:30:27.320 --> 0:30:32.120
<v Speaker 4>This yu guys abandoned shit out man, yep, yep.

0:30:32.760 --> 0:30:35.160
<v Speaker 2>So this is all coming to a head as the

0:30:35.200 --> 0:30:37.760
<v Speaker 2>caravan makes its way into Newfoundland, which is not a

0:30:37.760 --> 0:30:40.440
<v Speaker 2>heavily populated part of Canada, and they're kind of in

0:30:40.440 --> 0:30:43.160
<v Speaker 2>the middle of nowhere of Newfoundland, which is itself kind

0:30:43.200 --> 0:30:46.800
<v Speaker 2>of the middle of nowhere. And the day after she

0:30:46.880 --> 0:30:49.480
<v Speaker 2>makes everyone listen to Rasputin for ten hours while driving

0:30:49.480 --> 0:30:51.840
<v Speaker 2>through the middle of nowhere Canada, right, they're stopped, they're

0:30:51.880 --> 0:30:54.320
<v Speaker 2>all tired. She probably keeps them up late, and then

0:30:54.360 --> 0:30:58.080
<v Speaker 2>she wakes everyone up early, playing her fucking rasputant song

0:30:58.160 --> 0:31:00.400
<v Speaker 2>and yelling about how there's a war on and says, everyone,

0:31:00.480 --> 0:31:03.040
<v Speaker 2>skip breakfast, we got to start driving right now. And

0:31:03.120 --> 0:31:05.200
<v Speaker 2>Corey and Daisy have finally had enough and they closed

0:31:05.200 --> 0:31:06.600
<v Speaker 2>the door in her face and they're like, no, we're

0:31:06.600 --> 0:31:09.240
<v Speaker 2>going to sleep, like we're not getting up yet and

0:31:09.280 --> 0:31:12.240
<v Speaker 2>we're gonna eat, and Queen Didulo just leaves them. She

0:31:12.360 --> 0:31:15.200
<v Speaker 2>abandons almost it sounds like pretty much all of her

0:31:15.240 --> 0:31:17.840
<v Speaker 2>staff two thousand miles away from her homes, takes the

0:31:18.000 --> 0:31:22.400
<v Speaker 2>RVs so that's like rent cars to get home, and

0:31:22.680 --> 0:31:25.840
<v Speaker 2>declares them traders and warns them to watch your backs right,

0:31:26.040 --> 0:31:28.000
<v Speaker 2>just leaves them in Newfoundland.

0:31:27.720 --> 0:31:29.080
<v Speaker 3>Traiders all right.

0:31:30.000 --> 0:31:30.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:31:31.240 --> 0:31:35.200
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, she's smelling her own stuff way too much, man. Yeah.

0:31:35.400 --> 0:31:39.400
<v Speaker 2>So you know, not long after that, in August of

0:31:39.440 --> 0:31:42.719
<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty two, Queen Didulo carries out her next major

0:31:42.840 --> 0:31:47.040
<v Speaker 2>real world endeavor. This is in a town called Peterborough,

0:31:47.400 --> 0:31:50.440
<v Speaker 2>where she has gotten been convinced for a while and

0:31:50.480 --> 0:31:53.080
<v Speaker 2>been ranting for a while about like the police in

0:31:53.160 --> 0:31:57.560
<v Speaker 2>Peterborough and how they're enforcing COVID mandates and whatnot. They're

0:31:57.640 --> 0:32:01.040
<v Speaker 2>they're corrupt, We're gonna do a citizens erect all that

0:32:01.120 --> 0:32:03.680
<v Speaker 2>good stuff, right Like that's this is all kind of

0:32:03.720 --> 0:32:07.000
<v Speaker 2>like and it's a little hard for me to tell,

0:32:07.040 --> 0:32:11.120
<v Speaker 2>like why she focuses specifically on this small town. I

0:32:11.120 --> 0:32:14.040
<v Speaker 2>think maybe some of it is just that, like, well,

0:32:14.080 --> 0:32:16.560
<v Speaker 2>this was like a small enough town that maybe she

0:32:16.600 --> 0:32:18.560
<v Speaker 2>thought it would work. Some of it is that one

0:32:18.600 --> 0:32:21.120
<v Speaker 2>of her followers, this guy Frank Curtin, lives in the

0:32:21.160 --> 0:32:25.720
<v Speaker 2>town and he starts like he organizes like a mass

0:32:25.760 --> 0:32:28.480
<v Speaker 2>event to do a citizen arrest of all these police.

0:32:28.480 --> 0:32:29.560
<v Speaker 2>So I think it may have just been that, like

0:32:29.640 --> 0:32:31.560
<v Speaker 2>she had a follower who was like, no.

0:32:31.560 --> 0:32:32.920
<v Speaker 3>It'll work if we do it here.

0:32:33.320 --> 0:32:35.560
<v Speaker 2>You know they have there's this they've got this meme

0:32:35.640 --> 0:32:38.200
<v Speaker 2>going on that's like they're calling the police chief the

0:32:38.240 --> 0:32:40.640
<v Speaker 2>retire borough police chief, because they're trying to get him

0:32:40.680 --> 0:32:43.520
<v Speaker 2>to retire and threatening to arrest him if he doesn't.

0:32:45.040 --> 0:32:49.200
<v Speaker 2>To quote from Sarteghi's piece about Frank Curtin. Curtin is

0:32:49.240 --> 0:32:51.640
<v Speaker 2>one of Digulo's most art and supporters and provides a

0:32:51.680 --> 0:32:54.360
<v Speaker 2>useful example of an active agent curtain came to believe

0:32:54.360 --> 0:32:56.880
<v Speaker 2>in Digulo's ideas after parting ways with his employer a

0:32:56.920 --> 0:33:00.560
<v Speaker 2>part approximately one year before the Peterborough event. Problems between

0:33:00.640 --> 0:33:02.880
<v Speaker 2>Curtin and his employer. When his employer received funds from

0:33:02.920 --> 0:33:05.760
<v Speaker 2>the government to boost the manufacturing of hand sanitizer as

0:33:05.800 --> 0:33:08.600
<v Speaker 2>part of the fight against COVID nineteen. Curtin considered this

0:33:08.640 --> 0:33:11.640
<v Speaker 2>government funding suspicious. He believes that COVID nineteen is fake

0:33:11.680 --> 0:33:14.320
<v Speaker 2>and that his employer had collected that money illegally. These

0:33:14.360 --> 0:33:17.680
<v Speaker 2>conspiratorial beliefs then allegedly led to Curtain's departure from the company.

0:33:17.880 --> 0:33:21.400
<v Speaker 2>After leaving the company, Curtin began regularly serving Digelos ceased

0:33:21.400 --> 0:33:24.840
<v Speaker 2>and desist orders to public officials. He then specifically targeted

0:33:24.880 --> 0:33:28.160
<v Speaker 2>Police Chief Scott Gilbert of the Peterborough Police Department. Curtin

0:33:28.200 --> 0:33:30.600
<v Speaker 2>was upset about not receiving from the police Chief Gilbert

0:33:30.640 --> 0:33:32.880
<v Speaker 2>what Gilbert deemed to be an appropriate response to his

0:33:33.160 --> 0:33:37.440
<v Speaker 2>complaint about his employer's supposed illegal activities. Curtin recorded himself

0:33:37.440 --> 0:33:39.920
<v Speaker 2>serving a cease and desist order upon Chief Gilbert and

0:33:39.960 --> 0:33:43.840
<v Speaker 2>posted the video on his YouTube channel. Right, so, yeah,

0:33:43.880 --> 0:33:45.440
<v Speaker 2>this is a really good example of how these kind

0:33:45.480 --> 0:33:47.520
<v Speaker 2>of things snowball, right, this is not a guy who's

0:33:47.560 --> 0:33:50.760
<v Speaker 2>living with the caravan. He starts just serving her cease

0:33:50.760 --> 0:33:53.960
<v Speaker 2>and assists, but she's following him. He's posting as he's

0:33:54.320 --> 0:33:56.360
<v Speaker 2>in the telegrams, he's putting these up. He's talking about

0:33:56.360 --> 0:33:59.400
<v Speaker 2>a corrupt the police are. Roman is like, oh, this

0:33:59.520 --> 0:34:02.480
<v Speaker 2>might be useful. So she starts some memes about retire,

0:34:02.600 --> 0:34:04.760
<v Speaker 2>you know, the police chief, and we're going to arrest

0:34:04.760 --> 0:34:07.280
<v Speaker 2>all of them, and it just becomes an increasing thing

0:34:07.320 --> 0:34:10.160
<v Speaker 2>to her followers. And this kind of makes it inevitable

0:34:10.200 --> 0:34:12.480
<v Speaker 2>that there's going to be a showdown in Peterborough, right,

0:34:12.560 --> 0:34:14.080
<v Speaker 2>Like they're gonna have to do something there.

0:34:14.360 --> 0:34:14.920
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:34:15.080 --> 0:34:18.640
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, This goes from funny to annoying to like, okay,

0:34:18.920 --> 0:34:20.880
<v Speaker 4>you have to stop, yeah.

0:34:20.719 --> 0:34:23.320
<v Speaker 2>Right right, yeah, And we're gonna talk about what happened next,

0:34:23.320 --> 0:34:34.240
<v Speaker 2>but first, ads, we're back. So this guy, Frank Curtin

0:34:34.280 --> 0:34:36.800
<v Speaker 2>has becoming gotten you know, as a result of getting

0:34:36.800 --> 0:34:40.960
<v Speaker 2>fired and losing his mind over like COVID stuff, both

0:34:41.160 --> 0:34:44.840
<v Speaker 2>lost his job and is increasingly becoming unhinged. He's fallen

0:34:44.880 --> 0:34:47.640
<v Speaker 2>into this rabbit hole of didulo stuff, and he's gotten

0:34:47.719 --> 0:34:51.240
<v Speaker 2>obsessed with Chief Gilbert, his town's police chief. He's posting

0:34:51.320 --> 0:34:54.000
<v Speaker 2>videos about how like there's this plane that he'll see

0:34:54.040 --> 0:34:56.200
<v Speaker 2>flying every now and then that he believes the police

0:34:56.239 --> 0:34:59.440
<v Speaker 2>chief is flying above his house to like fuck with

0:34:59.480 --> 0:35:03.560
<v Speaker 2>him specif. So this is not a well man, right,

0:35:05.000 --> 0:35:08.000
<v Speaker 2>This is really not a well man. And he's incredibly

0:35:08.000 --> 0:35:10.719
<v Speaker 2>angry about like the vaccines and the police are showing

0:35:10.800 --> 0:35:13.520
<v Speaker 2>up at like vex to protect vaccine sites because of

0:35:13.560 --> 0:35:17.200
<v Speaker 2>crazy people like Frank Curtin, right, And so this all

0:35:17.239 --> 0:35:20.040
<v Speaker 2>comes to a head in August of twenty twenty two,

0:35:21.360 --> 0:35:24.919
<v Speaker 2>which is when Queen Didulo's caravan shows up in Peterborough

0:35:25.040 --> 0:35:28.520
<v Speaker 2>for her next major real world endeavor. She's gathered around

0:35:28.640 --> 0:35:31.480
<v Speaker 2>forty of her followers and she's told them these officers

0:35:31.520 --> 0:35:34.560
<v Speaker 2>and their chief are all complicit in COVID crimes and

0:35:34.640 --> 0:35:36.880
<v Speaker 2>we're going to arrest them. And so they show up

0:35:36.920 --> 0:35:39.640
<v Speaker 2>in this town and she attempts to arrest the entire

0:35:39.680 --> 0:35:43.680
<v Speaker 2>police department. Frank Curtin starts by announcing today we are

0:35:43.680 --> 0:35:46.120
<v Speaker 2>going to turn the members of the Peterborough Police Station

0:35:46.239 --> 0:35:49.960
<v Speaker 2>over to the US Special Forces military, the Canadian military,

0:35:50.000 --> 0:35:52.520
<v Speaker 2>and the Global Military Alliance will pick them up once

0:35:52.560 --> 0:35:56.840
<v Speaker 2>we detain them. The who, well, it makes a lot

0:35:56.880 --> 0:36:00.560
<v Speaker 2>of sense problem. It's the US Special Forces military, regular military.

0:36:00.600 --> 0:36:03.640
<v Speaker 2>They're not involved, but the regular Canadian military is involved

0:36:03.640 --> 0:36:06.160
<v Speaker 2>them of course, the Global Military Alliance. They're all going

0:36:06.200 --> 0:36:08.960
<v Speaker 2>to show up after we arrest them. They can't arrest

0:36:09.000 --> 0:36:12.799
<v Speaker 2>the cops themselves, all the militaries in the world, they

0:36:12.800 --> 0:36:15.719
<v Speaker 2>don't have to. We the people do that, but then

0:36:15.719 --> 0:36:19.120
<v Speaker 2>they'll detain them once we the people have detained them.

0:36:19.280 --> 0:36:22.720
<v Speaker 2>In response, the police use one of the most dastardly tricks.

0:36:22.840 --> 0:36:24.560
<v Speaker 2>Right These people show up outside of the police station.

0:36:24.640 --> 0:36:26.840
<v Speaker 2>They say they're going to arrest them, and the cops

0:36:27.200 --> 0:36:32.319
<v Speaker 2>lock the door, just like, eh, not dealing.

0:36:32.040 --> 0:36:34.920
<v Speaker 3>With this right now. Let's see if they go away.

0:36:35.400 --> 0:36:36.320
<v Speaker 3>I'm almost all.

0:36:39.200 --> 0:36:42.840
<v Speaker 2>Today, so Didilo is reduced for a while to heckling

0:36:42.880 --> 0:36:46.000
<v Speaker 2>them over a bullhorn, demanding the police turn themselves in. Eventually,

0:36:46.040 --> 0:36:49.560
<v Speaker 2>the police reinforcements arrive. One man tells them they're under arrest,

0:36:49.600 --> 0:36:51.879
<v Speaker 2>and the cops are like, no, I mean, like, you're

0:36:51.920 --> 0:36:52.960
<v Speaker 2>actually under arrest.

0:36:55.120 --> 0:36:57.200
<v Speaker 3>We are are the cops. We have like the guns

0:36:57.239 --> 0:37:00.799
<v Speaker 3>and stuff. Yeah, you're just got to be guys. Were

0:37:00.840 --> 0:37:05.320
<v Speaker 3>really some RVs behind you? Yeah, but you're not cops.

0:37:05.960 --> 0:37:10.240
<v Speaker 2>You are definitely not cops. The Guardian summarizes what happened next.

0:37:10.560 --> 0:37:13.279
<v Speaker 2>Speaking to supporters over a megaphone, Digitlo fired up the

0:37:13.280 --> 0:37:15.719
<v Speaker 2>small crowd, but fled to her RV when scuffles with

0:37:15.760 --> 0:37:18.280
<v Speaker 2>the police. Bagan and some of her disciples were arrested.

0:37:18.680 --> 0:37:20.560
<v Speaker 2>She was somebody who was boosting this effort and was

0:37:20.640 --> 0:37:22.640
<v Speaker 2>very much in favor of it until it went south,

0:37:22.680 --> 0:37:25.040
<v Speaker 2>in which case she threw all of her followers under

0:37:25.040 --> 0:37:29.440
<v Speaker 2>the bus. She's very big on self preservation, clearly, a

0:37:29.560 --> 0:37:33.720
<v Speaker 2>quote from one of the observers. Yeah, six people were arrested,

0:37:33.840 --> 0:37:36.640
<v Speaker 2>two with assaulting a police officer, but there were no

0:37:36.840 --> 0:37:40.160
<v Speaker 2>charges for the queen, and so her mery road trip continued.

0:37:40.520 --> 0:37:43.120
<v Speaker 2>She gathered another gaggle of a dozen or so followers.

0:37:43.160 --> 0:37:46.040
<v Speaker 2>Together she bought a sixty two thousand dollars RV with

0:37:46.080 --> 0:37:48.520
<v Speaker 2>some of the donated money, and had another RV donated

0:37:48.520 --> 0:37:51.600
<v Speaker 2>to the cause. Wow, and she attempted at this point.

0:37:51.640 --> 0:37:53.960
<v Speaker 2>I do think though she's starting to see it's expensive

0:37:53.960 --> 0:37:56.520
<v Speaker 2>to drive around all the time. I want to settle somewhere,

0:37:56.560 --> 0:37:58.040
<v Speaker 2>but I can't get I still am not willing to

0:37:58.040 --> 0:38:00.319
<v Speaker 2>go back to my normal life, which is when she

0:38:00.440 --> 0:38:04.439
<v Speaker 2>finds a small town called Richmond in twenty twenty three,

0:38:04.800 --> 0:38:06.879
<v Speaker 2>and she finds this because one of the guys who

0:38:06.920 --> 0:38:10.600
<v Speaker 2>lives in the town has bought Richmond had a school.

0:38:10.800 --> 0:38:13.400
<v Speaker 2>But it's a very small town, right, and it's one

0:38:13.440 --> 0:38:16.200
<v Speaker 2>of those things. The school becomes defunct, you know, Okay,

0:38:16.480 --> 0:38:18.719
<v Speaker 2>I think because they're just like, aren't enough people to

0:38:18.800 --> 0:38:23.000
<v Speaker 2>keep it going. Yeah, and there's this local guy who's

0:38:23.040 --> 0:38:25.719
<v Speaker 2>become a follower of her cult, or at least a

0:38:25.840 --> 0:38:30.239
<v Speaker 2>partial follower of her cult, who buys, who's like purchased

0:38:30.280 --> 0:38:32.880
<v Speaker 2>the school and the land that it's on, and he

0:38:33.040 --> 0:38:37.480
<v Speaker 2>invites them to come over and like move in basically like, hey,

0:38:38.120 --> 0:38:40.920
<v Speaker 2>like you can live in this old school that I

0:38:41.120 --> 0:38:45.040
<v Speaker 2>technically own and live in Richmond, this tiny ass, little

0:38:45.040 --> 0:38:47.280
<v Speaker 2>small tan candid like a good life.

0:38:47.840 --> 0:38:49.120
<v Speaker 3>Don't sound royal fan.

0:38:50.239 --> 0:38:54.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So there's a mix of problems. For one thing,

0:38:54.040 --> 0:38:57.399
<v Speaker 2>there's a couple of people in town who believe her, so,

0:38:57.480 --> 0:39:01.479
<v Speaker 2>like at least one Richmond resident told W five News

0:39:01.480 --> 0:39:04.560
<v Speaker 2>that her father stopped paying his bills because Digulo said so.

0:39:05.320 --> 0:39:07.120
<v Speaker 2>But a lot of people are just unhappy about it.

0:39:07.120 --> 0:39:09.359
<v Speaker 2>For one thing, Yeah, they've been kicked out of at

0:39:09.400 --> 0:39:12.480
<v Speaker 2>least one town prior to this where like they showed

0:39:12.560 --> 0:39:14.560
<v Speaker 2>up and were trying to set up shop there, and

0:39:14.640 --> 0:39:17.880
<v Speaker 2>like the mayor and a bunch of the local residents

0:39:17.880 --> 0:39:19.440
<v Speaker 2>had it out from and like ran them out of

0:39:19.440 --> 0:39:22.160
<v Speaker 2>town by banking it a really uncomfortable place for them

0:39:22.200 --> 0:39:24.640
<v Speaker 2>to live. Yeah, and they try to do that in Richmond.

0:39:24.840 --> 0:39:27.000
<v Speaker 2>A lot of people do. There's a lot of complaints,

0:39:27.040 --> 0:39:29.839
<v Speaker 2>there's local government meetings about it. But they're not quite

0:39:29.840 --> 0:39:32.280
<v Speaker 2>able to kick them out of Richmond with the speed

0:39:32.400 --> 0:39:34.560
<v Speaker 2>that they want to because in part they have a

0:39:34.560 --> 0:39:36.759
<v Speaker 2>really good thing going. They have this whole school that

0:39:36.800 --> 0:39:38.759
<v Speaker 2>they can live in that they're turning into like their

0:39:38.800 --> 0:39:41.799
<v Speaker 2>government headquarters. So they don't they don't want to.

0:39:41.719 --> 0:39:45.760
<v Speaker 4>Go yeah right, Yeah, they got some progress.

0:39:45.520 --> 0:39:46.399
<v Speaker 3>Yeah right.

0:39:46.760 --> 0:39:49.839
<v Speaker 2>I think there's also she's starting to lose followers by

0:39:49.840 --> 0:39:53.719
<v Speaker 2>this point, she's not at her height. So I think

0:39:53.760 --> 0:39:56.520
<v Speaker 2>there's this understanding that like, well, I may be near

0:39:56.640 --> 0:39:58.080
<v Speaker 2>the end of this scrift from the beginning, and I

0:39:58.120 --> 0:40:00.640
<v Speaker 2>want to settle down somewhere where like we've got a

0:40:00.680 --> 0:40:04.080
<v Speaker 2>stable place to live and whatnot. Like maybe that's the

0:40:04.880 --> 0:40:07.160
<v Speaker 2>and man's who's the guy who's bought them to the

0:40:07.200 --> 0:40:09.880
<v Speaker 2>property is also just kind of somebody who's he's like

0:40:09.920 --> 0:40:14.120
<v Speaker 2>a right wing crank who hates COVID nineteen vaccine, and

0:40:14.200 --> 0:40:15.840
<v Speaker 2>so some of this is just I think he hates

0:40:15.880 --> 0:40:18.799
<v Speaker 2>everyone around him and wants to piss them off. Yes,

0:40:18.800 --> 0:40:21.359
<v Speaker 2>this is a huge issue in Richmond for a while, right,

0:40:21.360 --> 0:40:25.080
<v Speaker 2>there's protests. Some people do go a little bit overboard

0:40:25.200 --> 0:40:28.680
<v Speaker 2>and being paranoid about the cult too, but I understand

0:40:28.680 --> 0:40:32.439
<v Speaker 2>basically they don't want these people fucking up their little down, right,

0:40:32.480 --> 0:40:35.680
<v Speaker 2>that's weird. And she starts making claims and the cult

0:40:35.680 --> 0:40:37.279
<v Speaker 2>as that like, well, there's a lot of us. If

0:40:37.280 --> 0:40:39.239
<v Speaker 2>we all become residents, you know, we can vote in

0:40:39.280 --> 0:40:41.759
<v Speaker 2>local elections and shift the elections they're kind of doing,

0:40:41.800 --> 0:40:44.200
<v Speaker 2>like what that cult and Antelope, Oregon did that. Yeah,

0:40:44.239 --> 0:40:47.080
<v Speaker 2>Wild Wild Country died. Yeah they're talking about it. Right,

0:40:47.640 --> 0:40:50.839
<v Speaker 2>So this also really pisses off people like I don't

0:40:50.880 --> 0:40:54.000
<v Speaker 2>want my tiny town to be taken over here by

0:40:54.280 --> 0:41:00.840
<v Speaker 2>these weird assholes, right, Yeah, it just sounds like, yeah,

0:41:01.000 --> 0:41:04.719
<v Speaker 2>kind of shitty. So you know, this goes on for

0:41:04.760 --> 0:41:07.960
<v Speaker 2>I think like a year and change, and it only

0:41:08.040 --> 0:41:10.279
<v Speaker 2>really hit there's like kind of an inflection point that

0:41:10.320 --> 0:41:16.080
<v Speaker 2>came recently where a bunch of them got arrested very recently,

0:41:16.239 --> 0:41:24.799
<v Speaker 2>Like this is yeah, yeah, fucking finally right in September,

0:41:25.000 --> 0:41:27.640
<v Speaker 2>like the fall of twenty twenty five, she gets arrested,

0:41:28.800 --> 0:41:31.680
<v Speaker 2>and it's it's kind of some bullshit. She doesn't get

0:41:31.719 --> 0:41:34.399
<v Speaker 2>arrested for any of the actual like really fucked up

0:41:34.440 --> 0:41:40.520
<v Speaker 2>shit that she does. Yeah she arrested, Yeah, right, Like

0:41:40.560 --> 0:41:43.680
<v Speaker 2>she gets arrested. It's that it's just like they don't

0:41:43.760 --> 0:41:46.239
<v Speaker 2>arrest her for the actual bad stuff. They arrest her

0:41:46.239 --> 0:41:51.160
<v Speaker 2>for like intimidating four people, including a police officer, and

0:41:52.000 --> 0:41:57.120
<v Speaker 2>uh like basically for intimidating people in town as opposed

0:41:57.200 --> 0:41:59.400
<v Speaker 2>to be the time she tried to get people killed

0:41:59.560 --> 0:42:02.000
<v Speaker 2>or tried to all those police arrested, or got people

0:42:02.000 --> 0:42:04.279
<v Speaker 2>to stop paying their bills. It's like kind of like

0:42:04.360 --> 0:42:09.680
<v Speaker 2>witness intimidation. Almost ed you for being weird. They rested

0:42:09.680 --> 0:42:12.520
<v Speaker 2>her for being weird, and she's you know, she live

0:42:12.560 --> 0:42:16.840
<v Speaker 2>streams the arrest. There's this satisfying moment where the officers

0:42:16.840 --> 0:42:18.239
<v Speaker 2>are like, leave the phone here.

0:42:18.320 --> 0:42:19.200
<v Speaker 3>Under her arrest.

0:42:20.880 --> 0:42:24.239
<v Speaker 2>They part of what it prompted the the RCMP to

0:42:24.320 --> 0:42:26.440
<v Speaker 2>rate in the first place was that there were pictures

0:42:26.480 --> 0:42:28.640
<v Speaker 2>of guns from inside the property. But they turned out

0:42:28.640 --> 0:42:31.880
<v Speaker 2>to be replica handguns. I don't know how far this

0:42:32.040 --> 0:42:34.600
<v Speaker 2>case is going to go. There's a good chance she

0:42:34.680 --> 0:42:37.799
<v Speaker 2>gets fucked over just because she is representing herself, which

0:42:37.840 --> 0:42:41.160
<v Speaker 2>is a bad decision. So she might go herself over here.

0:42:42.120 --> 0:42:45.160
<v Speaker 2>But the charges aren't super crazy, right, Like she's not

0:42:45.200 --> 0:42:47.760
<v Speaker 2>getting charged with most of the actual bad cult leader stuff.

0:42:47.840 --> 0:42:50.719
<v Speaker 2>Maybe she'll successfully fund raise off of this. We don't

0:42:50.719 --> 0:42:52.680
<v Speaker 2>really know where things are going to go from here, right,

0:42:53.040 --> 0:42:57.760
<v Speaker 2>But no, there's not a body count other than that cat.

0:42:57.840 --> 0:43:02.520
<v Speaker 2>Maybe it's a pretty tame story, right, It's just I

0:43:02.520 --> 0:43:04.160
<v Speaker 2>thought it was fun. I thought we'd all have some

0:43:04.239 --> 0:43:05.400
<v Speaker 2>fun man.

0:43:05.640 --> 0:43:07.200
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Stuff.

0:43:07.719 --> 0:43:10.920
<v Speaker 4>It's like, yeah, like you don't make fun of like

0:43:11.360 --> 0:43:13.520
<v Speaker 4>people who fall into colts because, like you said, you

0:43:13.560 --> 0:43:16.560
<v Speaker 4>know glasshouses and stones and all that you know.

0:43:17.640 --> 0:43:19.120
<v Speaker 3>And then on.

0:43:19.040 --> 0:43:23.520
<v Speaker 4>The other hand, it's like, bro, you stop paying your

0:43:23.640 --> 0:43:26.880
<v Speaker 4>utilities and that wasn't I feel like I can make

0:43:26.920 --> 0:43:27.560
<v Speaker 4>fun of you for that.

0:43:28.520 --> 0:43:29.200
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:43:29.480 --> 0:43:32.280
<v Speaker 2>Now there is a nice little PostScript to this cult

0:43:32.480 --> 0:43:34.319
<v Speaker 2>because we don't know what's gonna happen with Romana. But

0:43:34.400 --> 0:43:36.920
<v Speaker 2>I do want to talk for just a second about

0:43:36.920 --> 0:43:39.000
<v Speaker 2>the King of America David Carlson.

0:43:39.120 --> 0:43:40.480
<v Speaker 3>Okay, yes, please.

0:43:40.280 --> 0:43:43.560
<v Speaker 2>Because he did crop up a year or two ago,

0:43:43.840 --> 0:43:46.440
<v Speaker 2>and people started talking to him, and at first he

0:43:46.520 --> 0:43:48.880
<v Speaker 2>was very positive towards Romana, and then he kind of

0:43:48.920 --> 0:43:50.759
<v Speaker 2>soured on her and he started making it clear like, oh,

0:43:50.760 --> 0:43:52.279
<v Speaker 2>I didn't say she was the queen. I said she

0:43:52.320 --> 0:43:54.480
<v Speaker 2>was like in the running to be the queen. Like

0:43:54.560 --> 0:44:00.319
<v Speaker 2>she might be right, that's not what I'm say. Had

0:44:00.320 --> 0:44:04.239
<v Speaker 2>a break right, And there's a I want to read.

0:44:04.239 --> 0:44:06.359
<v Speaker 2>I'm just gonna read the start of this this Vice

0:44:06.440 --> 0:44:09.480
<v Speaker 2>article about him because it has a really funny opening.

0:44:09.800 --> 0:44:12.440
<v Speaker 2>Wearing a Florida Gators T shirt, an Arizona man in

0:44:12.480 --> 0:44:14.800
<v Speaker 2>his mid forties attempts to convince the hundreds of thousands

0:44:14.800 --> 0:44:17.640
<v Speaker 2>of conspiracy theorists watching his laptop live stream that he's

0:44:17.680 --> 0:44:20.440
<v Speaker 2>the real leader of the United States. King David Carlson

0:44:20.480 --> 0:44:22.440
<v Speaker 2>explains that he still has a few million people to

0:44:22.520 --> 0:44:25.320
<v Speaker 2>take out before he's finally done with his plan installing

0:44:25.400 --> 0:44:27.239
<v Speaker 2>QAnon kings and queens around the.

0:44:27.120 --> 0:44:30.919
<v Speaker 3>World, around the world. Great.

0:44:30.960 --> 0:44:33.600
<v Speaker 2>He claims, they've replaced Joe Biden was taken out on

0:44:33.680 --> 0:44:36.600
<v Speaker 2>election day. We've replaced sheriffs and other leaders you know,

0:44:37.480 --> 0:44:39.680
<v Speaker 2>and where we and he's been appointing a lot of kings.

0:44:39.719 --> 0:44:42.200
<v Speaker 2>He's appointed a king to the Kingdom of Britain, which

0:44:42.239 --> 0:44:44.560
<v Speaker 2>I think already has a king. Is king's the Kingdom

0:44:44.600 --> 0:44:47.080
<v Speaker 2>of Sweden, which I think already has a king. There's

0:44:47.080 --> 0:44:48.960
<v Speaker 2>a King of New Zealand, which I don't think had

0:44:48.960 --> 0:44:49.319
<v Speaker 2>a king.

0:44:50.480 --> 0:44:51.080
<v Speaker 3>He was Maori.

0:44:51.160 --> 0:44:54.560
<v Speaker 2>There's a there's a Minister of North Carolina. There's a

0:44:54.640 --> 0:44:57.719
<v Speaker 2>Queen Helen Edwards of the Kingdom of Australia. And then

0:44:57.719 --> 0:45:00.000
<v Speaker 2>there's her Excellency Karen Minister of New Jersey.

0:45:00.160 --> 0:45:05.160
<v Speaker 3>Obviously. Oh these guys are They're so wonderful, man, Yeah,

0:45:05.200 --> 0:45:07.920
<v Speaker 3>they're great. This is fun. They're great.

0:45:08.760 --> 0:45:12.399
<v Speaker 2>My favorite is that since Queen Romana has fallen out

0:45:12.440 --> 0:45:15.680
<v Speaker 2>of the King's favorite, she's no longer the Queen of Canada,

0:45:15.719 --> 0:45:18.279
<v Speaker 2>but he has appointed a new Queen of Canada, the

0:45:18.360 --> 0:45:21.440
<v Speaker 2>bec woman who was a follower of Queen Romana and

0:45:21.480 --> 0:45:24.000
<v Speaker 2>wrote a fan poem about her, but has now been

0:45:24.040 --> 0:45:27.440
<v Speaker 2>appointed the real Queen of Canada. And so I guess

0:45:27.480 --> 0:45:29.520
<v Speaker 2>took the throne and a coup of some sort.

0:45:29.600 --> 0:45:34.520
<v Speaker 3>This is great, yeah, and there's a great I'm gonna

0:45:34.520 --> 0:45:34.719
<v Speaker 3>show you.

0:45:34.800 --> 0:45:36.120
<v Speaker 2>The last thing I'll show you is I want to

0:45:36.120 --> 0:45:38.719
<v Speaker 2>show you the Royal Seal of I think who we

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<v Speaker 2>can all agree is a better pick for Queen of Canada,

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<v Speaker 2>Queen Charmaine. And I just I just love this. I

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<v Speaker 2>love this Queen, Queen Charmain of Canada. First of her name,

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<v Speaker 2>it's like a pink log with a with a very

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<v Speaker 2>air brushed face of a blonde wild Queen Charmain's Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>natural laws, zero politics, royal decrees, benevolent monarchy.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like if mar.

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<v Speaker 6>A Lago face and Toddler's and tiaras.

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<v Speaker 3>This is, this is she does on Instagram.

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<v Speaker 4>Who shouldn't be on Instagram keeping all them filters on

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<v Speaker 4>her face?

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<v Speaker 2>Yep ye wow, Queen Charmaine, thanks for sharing, Robert Well,

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<v Speaker 2>I know for for my part, I now have am

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<v Speaker 2>declaring my allegiance to Queen Charmaine.

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<v Speaker 3>You know I will take.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's do it, all right, Queen Charmaine. It is everyone

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<v Speaker 2>all right, as long as as long as I can shower. Listen,

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<v Speaker 2>sure she looks like she showers.

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<v Speaker 3>All I gotta say is.

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<v Speaker 4>Listen to politics, but please politics prop with more.

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<v Speaker 3>It is foolishness. Oh my gosh, mm hmm, my lord,

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<v Speaker 3>thank you, thank you for this. I needed this really refreshing.

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<v Speaker 6>Thank you, Robert.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, everybody, this as I ain't gonna hold you

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<v Speaker 3>like just for.

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<v Speaker 4>Go to hell.

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<v Speaker 6>I love you. Is that what you said, Robert?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I say that sometimes.

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