1 00:00:04,040 --> 00:00:07,920 Speaker 1: Welcome to Inside the Draft, a weekly preview of the 2 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:11,920 Speaker 1: upcoming NFL Draft with insiders from around the country. 3 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:15,040 Speaker 2: Welcome to Inside the Draft. I'm Jeffrey Gorman with Matt 4 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 2: Taylor Boyce to the Colts. Casey Valier also here. We're 5 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:20,120 Speaker 2: at the Indiana Construction Industry Studios. 6 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:20,440 Speaker 3: Boys. 7 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 2: April twenty fifth, first round of the draft is coming up. 8 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 2: We're gonna be out of Top Golf with coverage on that. 9 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:27,760 Speaker 3: That's right, one week from today. 10 00:00:27,880 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 1: The draft is here April twenty fifth, and uh yeah, 11 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:35,279 Speaker 1: Thursday coverage on our flagship station in Indianapolis, ninety three 12 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 1: five one oh seven five the Fan. It's going to 13 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 1: be streaming on Colts dot Com and the Colts Mobile 14 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 1: app as well. But the coverage is gonna begin Jeffrey 15 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:46,200 Speaker 1: at seven o'clock with kind of a pre draft ramp 16 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:49,280 Speaker 1: up for an hour with Rick Fintury and Casey Valier 17 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:51,960 Speaker 1: in studio here as well myself. We're gonna fire it 18 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 1: up at eight o'clock with all the first round pick 19 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 1: by pick coverage and. 20 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 2: Casey, Matt and I are going to take some golf 21 00:00:56,600 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 2: swings out of Top Golf on commercial breaks here. 22 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 3: God, that's what or not. Well, you're here. You're stuck, Matt. 23 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 4: You realize we have Jeffrey at a place where there's 24 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:05,960 Speaker 4: golf going on. 25 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 3: I'm actly gonna work on my buddy. I'm bringing the 26 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 3: clubs boys. 27 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:12,040 Speaker 4: I'm a little worried about Jeffrey being on the show 28 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 4: because Jeffrey may be in one of the bays. 29 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:16,120 Speaker 3: Just got a top golf to work on, my shorter bay, 30 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 3: bucking the balls, ready to go? What number are we on? 31 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:22,840 Speaker 3: Old on, Jeffrey, We're on twelve. We're on twelve here. 32 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:26,200 Speaker 3: It's gonna be great. Top longest drive, Jeffrey. 33 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 2: Let's go man again. April twenty fifth, our coverage starts 34 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:31,480 Speaker 2: at seven pm. The draft starts at eight On Friday. 35 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:34,400 Speaker 2: The following day, our draft coverage starts at seven pm. 36 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:37,399 Speaker 2: Let's talk some draft now from Pro Football Focus. We 37 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 2: talked to Max Chadwick, one of the best in the business. Hey, Max, 38 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:42,679 Speaker 2: how many quarterbacks go off the board in the first 39 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 2: round before the Colts pick at fifteen? 40 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 3: Oh? 41 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:47,040 Speaker 5: Good question. And you guys are in a kind of 42 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 5: lucky spot where you know you have your franchise guy 43 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 5: and Anthony Richardson. I think there's a chance that we 44 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:55,560 Speaker 5: get definitely at least four. I think there's a guarantee 45 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 5: that you're gonna get Kayleb Boyams obviously going number one, 46 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:01,559 Speaker 5: Jaden Daniels most lucky going to two, and then Drake 47 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 5: May probably going number three, and then probably Jajon McCarthy 48 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 5: going the top five with someone trading up to get him. 49 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 5: So I think those four are a lock. After that, 50 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:12,639 Speaker 5: I could see as many as six, with bow Nicks 51 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:15,400 Speaker 5: and Michael Pennock Junior being the other two going potentially 52 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 5: to the Broncos and Raiders. So I'm going to say 53 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 5: five right now, I'm gonna go in between that there's five. 54 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:23,800 Speaker 5: I don't know if we get all six before the 55 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 5: top fifty before the Cols picket fifteen, but I do 56 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:27,920 Speaker 5: think it's a possibility. But if we have to, if 57 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 5: I had to make a prediction right now, I probably 58 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:33,360 Speaker 5: say five total before the Coles picket at fifty eighth there. 59 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 4: Now, as we kind of prefaced earlier, we don't need 60 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:38,200 Speaker 4: a quarterback here in Indianapolis with Anthony Richardson in place. 61 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:41,519 Speaker 4: But one last quarterback question. Caleb Williams has been kind 62 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:44,800 Speaker 4: of that shiny guy for the last two years, arguably 63 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 4: would have been a first overall pick last year had 64 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 4: he had he been eligible, and he goes in this 65 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:51,520 Speaker 4: year looks like four gone conclusion, he's going to Chicago. 66 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:53,640 Speaker 4: Drake May was the guy that you know was kind 67 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:56,640 Speaker 4: of pushing those rains heading into the college football season, 68 00:02:56,880 --> 00:02:59,080 Speaker 4: and now Jayden Daniels appears to be a guy who 69 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 4: might have topped Drake May. What happened to Drake May? 70 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:05,519 Speaker 4: And why are the thoughts on him so boom or bust? 71 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 4: Like there's no in between. 72 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 5: It doesn't sound like yeah, And that's honestly, I can't 73 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 5: really answer it because I'm in this boat too, where 74 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:13,920 Speaker 5: I'm saying, I still think Drake May is pretty clearly 75 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 5: the number two guy in this craft, and honestly, he'd 76 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 5: be the easy number one pick for me and any 77 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 5: other draft. But you don't have an all time quarterback 78 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:22,639 Speaker 5: prospect like Kayleb Wiams, Like I think Kayleb Williams is 79 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 5: like right below Trevor Lawrence and Andrew Luck in terms 80 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 5: of the best quarterback prospects we've seen in the last 81 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:30,520 Speaker 5: decade in the half probably, So I really think Caleb's 82 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 5: that special, But yeah, I think Drake is right there. 83 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:34,359 Speaker 5: Behind him as well. So I still take a number two. 84 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 5: He really elevated the supporting cast in North Carolina, which 85 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 5: you you know, a lot of these other guys in 86 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 5: this quarterback class had elite supporting cast. I mean, you 87 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 5: look at what Jaj McCarthy had at Michigan. You look 88 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 5: what Jay and Daniels had at ls Do throwing a 89 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 5: two first round receivers and Milie neighbors Brian Thomas Jr. 90 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 5: Michael Pennix Junior had an elite supporting cast both offensive 91 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 5: line coaching and receivers. So yeah, you look at all that, 92 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 5: and Drake may really elevated that he had ninety plus 93 00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 5: PFF prades in each of the last two years. I now, 94 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 5: listen when you're watching his tape. There are some head 95 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 5: scratching misses that you see and you're like, why did 96 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 5: he just miss that easy ball right there? But you 97 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 5: know it comes and goes honestly, and he has some 98 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 5: really good arm talent. He does hit some unbelievable throws. 99 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 5: You got to get rid of the head scratching misses. 100 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 5: Like I said, But I still think his floor is 101 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:19,480 Speaker 5: a lot higher than people give him credit for. And 102 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:21,840 Speaker 5: I've seen some quotes saying, you know, he's the kind 103 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:23,920 Speaker 5: of guy that gets a GM fired. Right, Yeah, I 104 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:26,160 Speaker 5: think that's true. I think that's true, But I think 105 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 5: it's not in the way people are saying. I think 106 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 5: it's more likely that he gets a GM fired by 107 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 5: not taking him in the NFL drafts, by actually selecting him. 108 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:34,920 Speaker 5: So I like Frike May a lot, and I still 109 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 5: if I'm the Commanders at two, I'm still taking Drake 110 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:38,040 Speaker 5: May and not thinking twice about it. 111 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 3: Max. 112 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 1: Let's talk about the Colts. As you know, they are 113 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 1: traditionally a team that doesn't trade up in the first round. 114 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 1: It's been done before. In terms of the totality of 115 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:49,680 Speaker 1: the draft. If they were to trade up from fifteen, 116 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:53,039 Speaker 1: who are some players that are worthy of a trade up? Right, 117 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:56,720 Speaker 1: stay somewhere in that seven, eight to nine range of 118 00:04:56,760 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 1: the first round, someone that the Colts could get that 119 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 1: definitely won't be there at fifteen. 120 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:03,839 Speaker 3: They kind of fits what they're in need of. 121 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:07,159 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's a good question. I think if you're trading up, 122 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 5: I would most likely assume it's for a receiver in 123 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:12,600 Speaker 5: this class. I know, you just sign Michael Pittman Jr. 124 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:15,040 Speaker 5: You got Josh Doallens there as well. But I think 125 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:17,360 Speaker 5: it's pretty much a guarantee that the top three receivers 126 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 5: in the drafts of Marvin Harrison, Junior, Milie Neighbors, and 127 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 5: Romaduze are not going to be there at number fifteen overall. 128 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:24,839 Speaker 5: So if there were, if they were to trade up, 129 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:27,240 Speaker 5: which I highly highly doubt will happense, I just don't 130 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:29,479 Speaker 5: think they need to, and like you said, they they 131 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 5: don't really have a history of doing that either. But 132 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 5: if they were to do that, I would assume it's 133 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:34,720 Speaker 5: gonna be one of those three receivers, and you probably 134 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 5: trade up into the top ten in order to do so. 135 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:39,240 Speaker 5: And then the other guy I would probably through out 136 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:41,040 Speaker 5: there as another guy that could potentially trade up for 137 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 5: is brock Bauers, who also just might be there at 138 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:46,040 Speaker 5: fifteen anyways, But if you really want to lock him in, 139 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:49,480 Speaker 5: get in there with Shane's with Anthony richardson there and 140 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:52,040 Speaker 5: Shane's Ssyke, and I just think you probably to trade 141 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:53,840 Speaker 5: up ahead of the New York Jets at number ten 142 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:55,600 Speaker 5: is I think that's the first team that could really 143 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 5: take brock Bowers. So if you probably to trade up 144 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:02,280 Speaker 5: to nine or earlier, in order to secure brock Powers. 145 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:04,039 Speaker 5: But like you said, I don't see that happening for 146 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 5: the Colts. I think they got a bigger need on 147 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 5: this roster they can get it at number fifteen, So 148 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 5: I think they're probably gonna stick at where they are 149 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:14,720 Speaker 5: and take the best probably defensive back available, in my opinion. 150 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:20,040 Speaker 2: Follow him on Twitter x at Max Chadwick CFB Max. Obviously, 151 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 2: the Colts angle here is everything with that fifteenth pick. 152 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 2: There's some offensive tackles out there, and people are scratching 153 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 2: their head. Hey, best player available, maybe one of those 154 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 2: offensive tackles in the interior right in the heart of 155 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:35,280 Speaker 2: that NFL upcoming draft at that fifteen Is there an 156 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:38,360 Speaker 2: abundance of talent at the offensive tackle position this year 157 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 2: that people aren't talking about? 158 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:42,359 Speaker 5: Oh? Absolutely, yeah. This is probably one of the strongest 159 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:45,160 Speaker 5: positions in the draft. It's not the strongest right now, 160 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 5: it's one of the best tackle classes I can remember, honestly, 161 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 5: So yeah, I think, you know, that's another area the 162 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 5: Colts could look at. I don't necessarily think it's as 163 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 5: big of a need as other positions that they might 164 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 5: target at number fifteen overall, because I do like what 165 00:06:58,279 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 5: Bernard Raymond showed last year, and I like Braden Smith 166 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:03,040 Speaker 5: a lot too of right tackle, so I don't quite 167 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 5: think that they need to do that. Maybe they want 168 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 5: to go for a tackle that can play a little 169 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:09,039 Speaker 5: bit of guard and then eventually play out at tackle. 170 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 5: But yeah, there's a lot of really good tackles in 171 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 5: this draft, and I think Joe Alt is going to 172 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 5: be gone, probably to your division rival Tennessee. Tight is 173 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 5: the number seven. But after that, I think Ola fashion 174 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 5: U from Penn State to Lisa Fulanga from Oregon State, 175 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 5: those are the next guys I would look at as 176 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 5: the next top tackles in the draft, and there's a 177 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 5: chance that one or both of them is available at 178 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 5: number fifteen overall, So I think that those two are 179 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 5: probably the next options I would look at in the 180 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 5: tackle class. 181 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:36,119 Speaker 4: Now you talk about defensive back, there for the Colts 182 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 4: is a potential need at fifteen. That's definitely a position 183 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:40,320 Speaker 4: we have seen a lot of mock drafts, you know, 184 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:43,240 Speaker 4: whether that's Quinnion Mitchell or Terry and Arnold. But one 185 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 4: of the guys I want to talk about is Cooper 186 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 4: de John out out of Iowa, and with the new 187 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 4: kickoff rule and his versatility of playing you kind of 188 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 4: multiple spots on this in the secondary, but then also 189 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 4: that return aspect. What does that do for his draft 190 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 4: stock as you look at the you know where he's 191 00:07:57,760 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 4: going to go in the first round. 192 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:00,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it really helped. Honestly, I think he's 193 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 5: a really versatile player. And honestly, it's funny that you 194 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 5: said that. In my mock draft, I had Cooper Degen 195 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 5: going to the Colts at fifteen, and I think that's 196 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 5: one of my favorite player to team fits in this draft. Now. 197 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 5: I know some people think terry On Arnold and Quinyon 198 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 5: Mitchell are better prospects. I don't necessarily at if I 199 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 5: agree with that. I think the gene might be a 200 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 5: little bit worse than Quinion Mitchell. But in terms of 201 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 5: the scheme fit, I mean the Colts ran zone coverage 202 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 5: last year on over seventy six percent of their defensive plays, 203 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 5: which was over eight percent higher than any other team 204 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 5: in the NFL. Cooper Degen thrives in zone coverage, honestly, 205 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 5: so I think he's a guy that really really would 206 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 5: fit Gus Bradley's defense really well. And not only that, 207 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 5: I mean they can use help at corner they can 208 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 5: use help a little bit at safety too. I think 209 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 5: he's a versatile player. They could play almost anywhere in 210 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:49,199 Speaker 5: the defensive backfield and make an impact. And like you said, 211 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:51,320 Speaker 5: he also is a great returner as well, which could 212 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 5: really help out the Colts. So I think Cooper degen. 213 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:55,079 Speaker 5: I don't know if the Colts were actually pulled the 214 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:56,839 Speaker 5: trigger on him at number fifteen. I think it's more 215 00:08:56,960 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 5: likely they go after a guy like he said, like 216 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:01,679 Speaker 5: Quinnon Mitchell or Terrorn Arnold, and not necessarily like I 217 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:04,440 Speaker 5: don't like those fits. But I just think Cooper Regin's 218 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:07,959 Speaker 5: fit in Indianapolis is honestly pretty perfect with how much 219 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 5: zone coverage you guys play and how much he ridens 220 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 5: Oi'll coverage. So I love I love that fit. 221 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:15,320 Speaker 2: Max zone coverage of a team that's twenty eighth in 222 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 2: the league giving up points the last two years, isn't 223 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:20,240 Speaker 2: the electir I don't know if that's the question or 224 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 2: or the answer for that matter. It's a it's another 225 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:24,679 Speaker 2: way to look at this question too. If they if they, 226 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 2: you know, bump down to maybe fifty five percent rather 227 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 2: than eighty percent, we've got a different player in there. 228 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:30,280 Speaker 2: Any thoughts. 229 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:33,319 Speaker 5: Yeah, honestly, yeah, that's I'm something that you have to 230 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 5: ask us Bradley if he's willing to completely change his 231 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:37,400 Speaker 5: defensive mindset. And I know he's a guy that loves 232 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 5: zill't coverage and obviously he ran it at by far 233 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 5: the highest rate in the league last year. So that's 234 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 5: why I kind of thought Scooper Resiing made a great fit, 235 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 5: just because you know he's gonna stick to his stick 236 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:47,959 Speaker 5: to his guns when the defense he's been running forever, 237 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 5: that's the corner I would look at and say, Okay, 238 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 5: that's that's the guy. I wanted not to say s 239 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:54,199 Speaker 5: Cooper Resen can't play man coverage. I think he definitely can. 240 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 5: He hasn't really played a lot of press coverage in 241 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:58,200 Speaker 5: his IOWA career, but he has played some man He's 242 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 5: looked really good in man coverage, and I still think 243 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:02,480 Speaker 5: he can play press cover. It's more than he hasn't 244 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 5: really done it yet. So I think he's a versatile corner. 245 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:07,079 Speaker 5: I'm not just saying Cooper Dejien's only his zone corner, 246 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 5: but I do think when you see him zone cover, 247 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:12,080 Speaker 5: just when his IQ really shines and it really shines 248 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:14,200 Speaker 5: so I think that's why I thought, you know, his 249 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:17,440 Speaker 5: fit in Gus Bradley's defense is honestly perfect, And I 250 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:19,320 Speaker 5: think that's the guy that I would if I'm the 251 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:21,720 Speaker 5: Colts fan, I would want them to target Cooper Degien 252 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 5: with a number fifteen overall pick. 253 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:25,679 Speaker 1: Right now, all right, Max, let's pretend like your Ed 254 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 1: Dodds or you know, Todd Vasfari, some of these high 255 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 1: ranking scouts and personnel people. You're you're the right hand 256 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 1: man of Chris Ballard on draft night. All right, You've 257 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 1: got you've got Jared Verse, You've got Quinnon Mitchell, and 258 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 1: you've got Brian Thomas, all still on the board at 259 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:42,200 Speaker 1: pick number fifteen. 260 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:44,320 Speaker 3: What are you doing right there? Max? What are you 261 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 3: telling Chris Ballard to do with that scenario? 262 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:49,880 Speaker 5: Uh? Yeah, I guess. You know, if it's not Cooper Degien, 263 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:52,040 Speaker 5: i'd probably say Quinon Mitchell. That's probably the guy I 264 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 5: would go with out of those three players for the Colts, 265 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:57,840 Speaker 5: at least. I think Mitchell. He's been the highest graded 266 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:00,440 Speaker 5: corner for PFF in each of the past two seasons. 267 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 5: He is excellent in off coverage, and again there, I 268 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 5: think it would fit in Gus proud. This's defense really 269 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 5: really well. And then also I think Quean Mitchell might 270 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 5: have had the best pre draft process of any player 271 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 5: in this entire draft. Honestly. I mean, he went out 272 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 5: in the Senior Bowl. He was excellent at the Senior Bowl. 273 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:17,400 Speaker 5: I was kind of a big question was, Okay, you 274 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:21,319 Speaker 5: know he dominated to Toledo in mac competition. How do 275 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 5: we look against the elite competition? Also, how will he 276 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 5: look in press coverage? Because he never played press coverage 277 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:28,319 Speaker 5: in Toledo real he was really almost exclusively an off 278 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 5: coverage corner, and he dominated at the Senior Bowls. He 279 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:32,840 Speaker 5: kind of answered a lot of questions there and it 280 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:34,840 Speaker 5: kind of e merged as his first round corner. Then 281 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:36,679 Speaker 5: he went out of the Combine and he tested as 282 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:38,720 Speaker 5: the most athletic corner at the Combine as well. So 283 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:40,480 Speaker 5: this is the guy who looked at a Day two 284 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:42,520 Speaker 5: pick after the season, and now all of a sudden, 285 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:44,560 Speaker 5: we're looking at him as a top fifteen pick in 286 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 5: the NFL Draft. So I think Quinia Mitchell's stock has 287 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:50,240 Speaker 5: really seen a bigger boom than almost any other prospect 288 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 5: in this draft, probably more than any other process in 289 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:53,960 Speaker 5: this draft. So I and Like I said, I think 290 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 5: that's the biggest need for the coast right now, is 291 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:57,599 Speaker 5: that corner. So I think Quinon Mitchell, I think he 292 00:11:57,640 --> 00:12:00,920 Speaker 5: fits the deef, he fits the biggest need of value 293 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:02,680 Speaker 5: pick there at fifteen. I think that's the guy I'll 294 00:12:02,679 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 5: probably go with out of those things. 295 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 1: And by the way, Max, congratulations on your promotion within 296 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:07,560 Speaker 1: the Colts Brass. 297 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 3: That was awesome. Nice. Yeah, well deserved. Max got the 298 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:14,520 Speaker 3: corner office. Now I want to talk. 299 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 4: I want to kind of piggyback off what you just 300 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:18,719 Speaker 4: said there with the Colts of the last last year 301 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:20,080 Speaker 4: they drafted three corners. 302 00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 3: So when you look at that room, it's a very 303 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:24,200 Speaker 3: young room. Is there any concern. 304 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:27,080 Speaker 4: About having too much youth if the Colts do choose 305 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 4: to go there at I mean at fifteen. You look 306 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 4: at that, you pair that up with Juju Brents, I know, 307 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:34,720 Speaker 4: Dallas Flowers coming off the Achilles, but then also Jalen Jones, 308 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:36,680 Speaker 4: you got Kenny Moore there as a veteran. But is 309 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:39,360 Speaker 4: there at all any concern with too much youth at 310 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:40,200 Speaker 4: that spot? 311 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:42,080 Speaker 5: I think that could be a concern on se And 312 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:43,679 Speaker 5: you know, you want to have some experience there, and 313 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 5: I think that's why bring back Kenny Morris a huge 314 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:48,440 Speaker 5: win for the Colts this offseason, to help out that 315 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:51,160 Speaker 5: that cornerback room. I'm not really worried about that. I'm 316 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:53,080 Speaker 5: more worried about just getting talent in there. And I 317 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 5: don't be wrong, I like you, Brent and I liked 318 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:56,360 Speaker 5: Alice Flowers. But I just don't know if you want 319 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:59,720 Speaker 5: to say that those are starting outside corners long term, 320 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 5: I think you need to be spending high premium picks 321 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:05,320 Speaker 5: on corner, which is probably the most important position on 322 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 5: defense right now. With how much the game is evolved 323 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 5: into a passing game, I would say corner is super important. 324 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:13,000 Speaker 5: So look, like I said, I like Juju Brance, I 325 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:14,599 Speaker 5: like Dallas Flowers. I like them more as kind of 326 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:17,080 Speaker 5: like depth pieces. Whereas maybe one of them, maybe Juju Brentz, 327 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:20,319 Speaker 5: can be your one of your starting outside corns or 328 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 5: Dallas Flowers, I'd want the other one to be, you know, 329 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 5: a guy that you spend a high premium pick on 330 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 5: and hope can turn into one of the top corners 331 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:29,040 Speaker 5: in the league. So that's why again I like them. 332 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 5: I just think you're gonna get more talent in that 333 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 5: room because of how important position is. And that's why 334 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:36,679 Speaker 5: I think spending the fifteen or fifteenth overall pick on 335 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:38,320 Speaker 5: one of these corners in this draft, whether it be 336 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:40,840 Speaker 5: Cooper Desen, whether it be Quein Mitchell or Terry and Arnold, 337 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:42,680 Speaker 5: that's the way I would go if I was Chris 338 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:43,840 Speaker 5: Ballard and the Colts. 339 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 2: Again follow him on Twitter x at Max Chadwick CFB. 340 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:47,720 Speaker 3: Max. 341 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 2: I mean no disrespect here, but it's safe to say 342 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 2: you're kind of a football. 343 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 3: Nerd, right, Yeah it is? Yeah, Well that. 344 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 2: Leads me to this question. You have an unbelievable follow 345 00:13:57,320 --> 00:14:00,840 Speaker 2: on Pro Footballfocus dot com and you're talking about the 346 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 2: twenty twenty four NFL Draft. If all college players were eligible, 347 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:07,679 Speaker 2: and that means a lot of the juniors or sophomores 348 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:10,160 Speaker 2: that aren't eligible coming out, et cetera, et cetera, or 349 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 2: freshmen for that matter, would this first round of this 350 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 2: draft look completely different if everyone was eligible as far 351 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 2: as the players that are coming up next year. 352 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 5: It actually would. And actually we put out on my 353 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 5: show if the Piece of cos Football show, my buddy 354 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:26,280 Speaker 5: don't lost for me, Shu, you put out a video 355 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 5: doing the first round mock draft and actually going to 356 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 5: start into an article is coming out on Friday for 357 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 5: anyone who's interested on PFF dot com, so make sure 358 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 5: you check it out then. But yeah, it actually would 359 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:37,400 Speaker 5: look a lot different, honestly, you look at it right now. 360 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 5: I think our first seven picks were twenty twenty four 361 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 5: prospects of how good this class is. But after that 362 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 5: you start to see a lot of twenty twenty five 363 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:46,800 Speaker 5: and twenty twenty fix guys even fly off the board. 364 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:50,080 Speaker 5: So I think the Colts we ended up having brock 365 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 5: Bowers be the pick for them at fifteen overall, so 366 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:55,720 Speaker 5: I love that fit as well. If if he somehow 367 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 5: falls at fifteen, I think I would maybe even prioritize 368 00:14:58,280 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 5: brock Bowers more than any corner in this draft if 369 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 5: he does fall there. But yeah, it was a really 370 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 5: fun exercises to see, you know. I think it's fun 371 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:07,200 Speaker 5: to see, Okay, how good is this class compared to 372 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:09,760 Speaker 5: the next two classes, and what are the strengths of 373 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:11,600 Speaker 5: next year's classes? Who are the guys to know in 374 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 5: the next classes. I think that's again, it's gonna look 375 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:16,160 Speaker 5: dumb a couple of years from now when we're like, oh, 376 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:17,560 Speaker 5: how did you miss that guy? How did you put 377 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:19,880 Speaker 5: that guy so high, but I think it's a fun 378 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:22,040 Speaker 5: exercises dude, just kind of you know, look ahead to 379 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 5: the twenty twenty five and even twenty twenty six NFL draft. 380 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 1: Max is kind of a deep one from me. The 381 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 1: Cults are a team you know on Day three of 382 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:31,720 Speaker 1: the draft that they always seem to kind of unearth 383 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 1: an FCS player or a small school player late in 384 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:37,520 Speaker 1: the draft, I mean last couple of years. Yet you 385 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:39,600 Speaker 1: know Rodney Thomas from Yale, I know he's not an 386 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:42,240 Speaker 1: FCS guy, but you've got you know, Titus Leo and 387 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 1: Jake Witt. Who are some FCS guys that are kind 388 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 1: of on your radar going into this draft that might 389 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 1: be picked up on Saturday. 390 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, good question. I think one of them that I 391 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:53,520 Speaker 5: really like and even could be a fit for the 392 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 5: Coast that they need some help on the interior office. 393 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 5: A line, like I said before, is Mason McCormick from 394 00:15:57,360 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 5: South Dakota State is the guy who just, uh, he 395 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:02,040 Speaker 5: looks kill every time he's out there. Honestly, he's a 396 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 5: dominant guard for South Dakota State and he really has 397 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 5: been a terrific run blocker for them as well. So 398 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 5: he's probably the first guy I would say Kieran Megadiji, 399 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 5: I hopefully I'm saying that right the office tackle from Yale. 400 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 5: I think he actually is gonna be a second round 401 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 5: pick in the draft, So I don't know if day 402 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 5: three is really where I think for him. But jylyox Hunt, 403 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 5: the edge defender from Houston Christians, another guy overally let 404 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 5: would be a third round pick. Uhah Davis another running 405 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 5: back from South Dakota State as well. So it's a 406 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 5: really good FDS talent. It's actually a really really good FCS. Uh. 407 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:35,040 Speaker 5: You know, draft this year, and I think there's a 408 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 5: couple of guys that you see on Day two even 409 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:40,280 Speaker 5: of the NFL Draft that you might not even might 410 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 5: not even think of. So jay loox Hunt is probably 411 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 5: the guy I would I would look at first as 412 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 5: maybe the biggest sleeper because I think he's worthy of 413 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 5: being maybe a Day two pick in the draft, but 414 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 5: I think he's probably gonna end up going in the 415 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:52,440 Speaker 5: fifth or sixth round, honestly. So, uh, jay loox Hunt, 416 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 5: the edge defender from Houston Christians, probably the first guy 417 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:55,840 Speaker 5: that I would look at right now. 418 00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:58,880 Speaker 2: BFF dot com you can find Max Chadwick also on 419 00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 2: the PFF College Football Show. 420 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:01,960 Speaker 3: I love this story. 421 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:05,000 Speaker 2: You came to PFF in June of twenty twenty one 422 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 2: as a social media intern. And look at you now, Chadwick. 423 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 2: You're sitting at the big table. How about that. I'm 424 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 2: clapping right there. 425 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:15,240 Speaker 5: Good for you right now, I have. 426 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:17,199 Speaker 3: Good for you. 427 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:20,240 Speaker 2: Well, keep up the great work, man, And obviously I 428 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 2: mean that would love and being a football nerd. But 429 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:24,840 Speaker 2: I love every angle you bring into the upcoming draft 430 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:27,240 Speaker 2: and prospects that are coming out. So Max, keep up 431 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:29,280 Speaker 2: the great work, and fans once again follow him at 432 00:17:29,280 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 2: Max Chadwick CFB. Appreciate the time today. 433 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:34,640 Speaker 5: Of course, Thank you so much, guys, I really appreciate it. 434 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:36,679 Speaker 1: And Max, I gotta ask you one more before I 435 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:38,679 Speaker 1: let you go. Jeffery's gonna throw his computer at me, 436 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:39,440 Speaker 1: so I apologize. 437 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:41,640 Speaker 3: You're all right. I know you're a college football guy. 438 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:43,040 Speaker 1: Just give me a yes or no and maybe a 439 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:46,080 Speaker 1: quick synopsis here, Max Kurt Signetti at Indiana is he 440 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:46,560 Speaker 1: gonna work? 441 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:48,440 Speaker 3: What's your guts say? Come on now, I. 442 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:50,439 Speaker 5: Kind of love the hire. I'm not gonna lie. I 443 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:51,919 Speaker 5: kind of love it. I think you did the excellent 444 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:54,120 Speaker 5: stuff at James Madison, and I think he's a guy 445 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:56,679 Speaker 5: that's coming into Indiana. I love him staying at the 446 00:17:56,720 --> 00:17:58,680 Speaker 5: Big Ten Championship, morectories highs like, oh yeah, we'll be 447 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:01,800 Speaker 5: here next year. I don't think that's gonna think he's 448 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:03,800 Speaker 5: a guy that he's doing. He's doing really well. I 449 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:05,880 Speaker 5: think he's got some really good transfers coming in as well. 450 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 5: I think, dude, just Indiana programs on the up and 451 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:10,199 Speaker 5: up right now. I'm not gonna say they're gonna turn 452 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:12,720 Speaker 5: around immediately, but I do think that he's gonna do 453 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:14,480 Speaker 5: a pretty good job in Indiana. So yeah, I'm a 454 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 5: pretty big fan of Higher. 455 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:17,760 Speaker 3: All right, the arrow is up, Jeffrey. And by the way, 456 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:18,439 Speaker 3: you don't know what you did. 457 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:21,880 Speaker 2: People driving around, listening at home. Everybody got excited here 458 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:24,720 Speaker 2: in the heartland. Finally a good man the charge of 459 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:25,520 Speaker 2: IU football. 460 00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:25,800 Speaker 3: Max. 461 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:27,840 Speaker 2: Great stuff as usual, Man, keep up the great work 462 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:31,440 Speaker 2: and again follow him at Max Chadwick c FB. Appreciate 463 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:33,440 Speaker 2: the time today, of course, Thank you guys.