1 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 1: Yay. We received an iHeart Podcast nomination for Best Pop 2 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 1: Culture Podcast. There are thousands and thousands of podcasts, thousands, millions. 3 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:31,560 Speaker 1: Maybe I don't know. I know there are thousands. I 4 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:33,480 Speaker 1: don't know if there are millions. There are a lot 5 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:36,400 Speaker 1: of podcasts. I mean every day there's a podcast popping up. 6 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 1: I'm so grateful and honored. The best kind of nominations 7 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 1: or recognition or awards or anything, acknowledgment, is when you 8 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:50,559 Speaker 1: didn't even know the thing existed. Like that's when it's 9 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:52,639 Speaker 1: really fun. It's like a surprise. Someone's like, oh, wait, 10 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 1: you were nominated for, you know, an Academy award. I'm like, 11 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:00,040 Speaker 1: oh I was. I didn't even know. I was like, 12 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:04,320 Speaker 1: I didn't know I was submitted. I'm so excited, Like, yay, 13 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 1: it happened. In the beginning when I started the podcast, 14 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 1: I remember someone saying Hillary Clinton just tweeted at you, 15 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:18,200 Speaker 1: like what because Karen Swisher, this big tech reporter, had 16 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 1: mentioned that Hillary Clinton and myself and her were all 17 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:24,039 Speaker 1: in the top five podcasts, and I was like, top five. 18 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 1: I didn't know there was even a list. Yay, Like 19 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 1: it's so fun to not know anything. Ignorance is bliss. 20 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 1: And the reason is because it's doing something that you 21 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 1: just love to do. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter, 22 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 1: a rating doesn't matter, the money doesn't matter. Like it's 23 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 1: just a place to vent, to discuss, to express, to laugh, 24 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 1: to learn, to inspire, to be inspired. I mean, that's 25 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 1: truthfully the situation. And I haven't told that many people this, 26 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 1: but in the beginning, the podcast cost me money. I 27 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 1: had a really bad deal. The first year. I had 28 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 1: been told by several people, including ironically Andy Cohen, that 29 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 1: I should have a pot I guess I'd be great 30 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 1: at podcasting. That was sort of connected to him wanting 31 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 1: me to go back to Housewives and like use it 32 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 1: as a storyline like my podcast. But still he was 33 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:12,280 Speaker 1: right that I'd be good at it. And years before 34 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:16,519 Speaker 1: I had been on serious radio very briefly. And then 35 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 1: they wanted me to have a show every day. And 36 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:21,919 Speaker 1: I said to myself, as this pre pandemic, I can't 37 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 1: imagine a world where I have to go into serious 38 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 1: radio every day in midtown. Like I said, I don't 39 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:28,960 Speaker 1: think there's a number you could pay me to have 40 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 1: to sit in an hour or two and from traffic. 41 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 1: I literally said, if you gave me ten thousand dollars 42 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 1: in air mez like I still wouldn't want to get 43 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:38,080 Speaker 1: in the car and be two hours, Like I just 44 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:42,119 Speaker 1: don't like traffic and stress. I just like things being free. 45 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:45,120 Speaker 1: I'm mean, I'm literally in a Winning the Pot shirt 46 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 1: now with him doing yoga poses and I slept in 47 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:49,360 Speaker 1: the pan semic because I was doing yoga and I 48 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 1: came down to rant. But so then I agreed I 49 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 1: would do once a week and maybe twice a week, 50 00:02:57,200 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 1: and they wanted it to be I think they wanted 51 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:01,520 Speaker 1: it to be live. And it was this woman Melissa 52 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 1: that used to be at the Today Show. And then 53 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 1: because of these really really obnoxious women connected to Goldman, 54 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 1: Sachs and Trump, and they were really really obnoxious at 55 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:14,520 Speaker 1: this concert and I doused them in orange juice. And 56 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:16,240 Speaker 1: it happened to be a concert that was put on 57 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 1: by Sirious and the guy whose wife I doused happened 58 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 1: to be the Series A investors and serious and you know, 59 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 1: I thought I was gonna be like the next Howard Stern. 60 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 1: And then they pulled the show because of the orange 61 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 1: juice splash, which is funny because like Howard Stern is 62 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 1: so irreverent. I will say and do anything to anyone, 63 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 1: but I'm certainly not Howard Stern. I didn't have that 64 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:43,120 Speaker 1: kind of power. And anyway, it was the best thing 65 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 1: that ever happened to me, because years later I was 66 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 1: asked if I wanted to do a podcast and I 67 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 1: said yes during the pandemic, but I didn't even know 68 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 1: what it meant, and I didn't know what the deal meant. 69 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 1: And long story longer, the deal that I made just 70 00:03:58,160 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 1: it sounded like, Okay, it's gonna be a couple of 71 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 1: hundred all was each like episode to produce and have 72 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 1: a production company do it. But it ended up being 73 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 1: that the production money, combined with the faulty way that 74 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 1: this particular company was selling advertisements, meant that I ended 75 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 1: up making no money the first year. I was like, 76 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 1: I had such a successful podcast but was making no 77 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 1: money and it was hard to figure out the accounting. 78 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 1: And I remember calling Dave Portnoying a bunch of different 79 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 1: people on the podcast space to be like, how do 80 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:30,840 Speaker 1: people sell advertising? Because they pitched to me to sell 81 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 1: like a hair growth product when Hillary Clinton was on, 82 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:36,920 Speaker 1: and it just seemed like a like a bargain batch 83 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:41,159 Speaker 1: advertisement versus like curating it to a big guest that's coming, 84 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:44,559 Speaker 1: so we would have the same shitty advertising if Matthew 85 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 1: McConaughey was coming or Mickey Mouse was coming. And it 86 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 1: just felt like Hodgepodge botched. And this partner that I 87 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 1: was with at a big entertainment company, I was like, 88 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 1: you're gonna let me the fuck out of this, Like 89 00:04:57,320 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 1: I kept badgering them, be like you're gonna let me 90 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 1: out because I I'd called other people who said, you know, 91 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 1: my podcast was successful and they wanted to produce it. 92 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:06,599 Speaker 1: But I couldn't get out. And I don't remember what 93 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:08,120 Speaker 1: it was, but I was just like, I'm not a 94 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:09,919 Speaker 1: person you want to fucking have a bad divorce with, 95 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 1: So like get me, let me add of this. Like 96 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:13,920 Speaker 1: you're not happy, I'm not happy. I don't want to 97 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:15,840 Speaker 1: take this up the chain at your company, but I 98 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:17,920 Speaker 1: will and like, just let me the fuck out, which 99 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 1: I've done to other times and other deals. By the way, 100 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:21,839 Speaker 1: when I know that the marriage is not going to 101 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:27,919 Speaker 1: work in business, I wanted to be seamless clean, no arguing. 102 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 1: There's always a loophole. I just want to get out 103 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:32,720 Speaker 1: properly and break up nicely before it gets not nice. 104 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 1: So that was basically what happened. But in order to 105 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:37,719 Speaker 1: get a podcast on iHeart, I had called a couple 106 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 1: of people and one of them was Connell Byrne. He 107 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:43,040 Speaker 1: is the head of iHeart podcasting. He's like a powerful, 108 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 1: powerful guy in podcasting. And I don't know why I 109 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 1: knew that. Oh, I know because I had been on 110 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 1: Riah years before and a guy that I matched with 111 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:54,599 Speaker 1: who his title said iHeart, and I called up and said, 112 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:56,480 Speaker 1: do you know anybody? And he put me in touch 113 00:05:56,520 --> 00:05:58,720 Speaker 1: with the chairman, who I called on a Saturday Halloween 114 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 1: and was like, listen, I this podcast. Is like, we're 115 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:03,919 Speaker 1: well aware of your podcast, and I'm like, how do 116 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 1: I you know, how do I get in the game? 117 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:09,480 Speaker 1: So we did a podcast deal. It was really fairly easy. 118 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 1: He's a very cool guy. The guy who works right 119 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 1: under him, who also is like sort of in charge, 120 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 1: also a very cool guy. They kind of let me 121 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 1: do what I wanted, and like when a year later 122 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:23,720 Speaker 1: it wasn't exactly how I wanted to go down. There 123 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 1: were just things that I thought needed to be changed. 124 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 1: They got on the phone with me. I told him 125 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 1: I needed to be changed and like it jolted and 126 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:34,159 Speaker 1: it it got great and this past year was amazing. 127 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 1: We were number one in the world and we have 128 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:41,279 Speaker 1: had so many successful guests and stories and it's really like, 129 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:45,279 Speaker 1: you know, like your massage a dough not too much, 130 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:47,039 Speaker 1: you don't overwork it does so it gets tough, but 131 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:49,039 Speaker 1: like a little bit, so you figure out what it's 132 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 1: going to be molding it. And this podcast is like that, 133 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:54,159 Speaker 1: and it sort of became a space for people to 134 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 1: come and share something that might be an unpopular story 135 00:06:57,600 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 1: or they'd been misrepresent or you haven't heard the full 136 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:04,919 Speaker 1: story or the story's been told for them, you know, 137 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 1: or they are just not liked, but how do we 138 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 1: know what person they really are because of how they're 139 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 1: being positioned in the media. So it's been really, really, 140 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 1: really nice, and I'm really grateful and I'm really grateful 141 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 1: to you. So hopefully we'll win the award, but actually 142 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 1: I don't care, Like I'm just excited, and I'm sort 143 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 1: of bummed because it's a south By Southwest, which is 144 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 1: like super legit, and I want to go because I 145 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 1: want to accept my award. Problem is it's the day 146 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 1: before I'm supposed to be in Australia for these two appearances. 147 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 1: I'm going to Melbourne and Sydney. By the way, buy 148 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 1: tickets to my events in Australia. I'm so excited. I 149 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 1: live for Australia and I love the people and I 150 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 1: love the culture, and I'm taking Brian and I'm doing 151 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 1: an appearance in both cities, which I've never done Melbourne before, 152 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 1: So buy tickets. But the most important thing is that 153 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 1: I'm leaving for Australia the day after south by Southwest, 154 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 1: So I mean, I don't know how I could finagh 155 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 1: all that. If this award was in the morning, I 156 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 1: go fly home and then the next day I'm getting 157 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 1: on a plane for like almost thirty hours. I'll do it. 158 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 1: I'm gonna win a fucking award. I'll do it. I 159 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 1: don't know when they figure out who wins the awards, 160 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 1: but yeah, I don't know. I don't know. My heart, 161 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 1: let me know. M