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Speaker 2: So I was saying this today on the show, and

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Speaker 1: you a journalist? I say no, They're like, you have

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Speaker 1: a journalism degree, and I say I feel the same

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Speaker 1: way as like I'm not a cyclist. I know how

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Speaker 1: to ride a bicycle, but I wouldn't call myself a cyclist.

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Speaker 1: I can do it, but it's not what I What

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Speaker 1: I currently do is, you know, give opinions and smoke

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Speaker 1: fake cigars and do silly bits, you know what I mean,

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Speaker 1: Like I do the But I think journalism is super important,

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Speaker 1: super important, and I think the the death of the

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Speaker 1: local news local journalism is.

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Speaker 3: The lack of faith.

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Speaker 1: And some of this is well earned and some of

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Speaker 1: this is bad actors kind of see that people have

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Speaker 1: in authoritative sources and information and all of it to

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Speaker 1: go along with the disintegration of local news is like

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Speaker 1: a real crisis point in America. And I this will

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Speaker 1: never happen, So it's just pie in the sky. But

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Speaker 1: I would fully support, fully support if you could get

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Speaker 1: and you could make sure it was as bipartisan people

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Speaker 1: from every political stripe imaginable being involved in the process

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Speaker 1: of it making sure it's true news, not opinion, just information.

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Speaker 1: Uh in having what they have in other countries, which

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Speaker 1: is some public funding for Hey, here's what's going on.

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Speaker 3: I understand, Yes, the BBC works.

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Speaker 1: I understand what people hear from that, like all states

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Speaker 1: controlled media, and right.

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Speaker 3: Which is it?

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Speaker 1: It's the the well has been spoiled here too much

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Speaker 1: to ever let that happen. But something to where it

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Speaker 1: was true news, not opinion, not anything, because what what

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Speaker 1: I don't think people when we talk about like the

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Speaker 1: biggest stories, like and maybe you and I have talked

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Speaker 1: of this before, so I apologize if I'm in reruns

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Speaker 1: and move on, Like Watergate will get broken no matter what.

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Speaker 1: The White House will be covered no matter what. But

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Speaker 1: if you don't have a local newspaper, there's no one

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Speaker 1: at the local courthouse, and there's no way, by the way,

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Speaker 1: subscriber based journalism, paid journalism is worth having a court reporter.

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Speaker 1: Someone go to the waterboard meetings, someone go to the

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Speaker 1: school city council. Those things in small towns, and that's

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Speaker 1: where the corruption starts from the slowest level. And if

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden you're in immedia. You don't have

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Speaker 1: to be a tiny town, just a medium sized city,

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Speaker 1: you know, smaller than average town. And you're a judge

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Speaker 1: that wants to be corrupt as hell on the take,

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Speaker 1: and you're like, there hasn't been a reporter in my

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Speaker 1: courtroom in six weeks. Yeah, well guess what do whatever

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Speaker 1: the fuck I want to do?

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean? If you and so that

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Speaker 3: is that that.

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Speaker 1: Could be liberal, conservative, that could be anybody, oh one

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Speaker 1: hundred percent that No, the corruption is does not have

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Speaker 1: a political affiliation, It has agreed affiliation and every there

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Speaker 1: and so and so. I think I think that stuff's

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Speaker 1: really important, and I think it's really important that there

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Speaker 1: was an accepted level of what reality is, not what

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Speaker 1: you have to do, like you know, what you have

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Speaker 1: to believe in, but what reality is like it should

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Speaker 1: not be, in my opinion, a viable opinion held by people.

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Speaker 1: And I that you know, yeah, super Bowl might be

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Speaker 1: fixed because Biden's got his hand on the scale. And

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Speaker 1: I think right now one in twenty people believe it,

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Speaker 1: which is it sounds like not a lot. That's five percent.

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Speaker 1: What's five percent of three hundred and thirty million people?

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Speaker 1: That'd be seven million people. People are like, no more

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Speaker 1: than that, Sorry about that. It would be uh seventeen million.

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Speaker 3: People are like, yeah, that's probably it. It's humble. It's

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Speaker 3: unfathomable

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Speaker 1: The volume