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Speaker 2: The World's of Virginal podcast Welcome to Patriots Unfiltered. There

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Speaker 2: are things that Rabel is doing that it's like, oh, okay,

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Speaker 2: that's pretty cool. You can see how he's putting his

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Speaker 2: immediately putting his thumbprint on the team.

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Speaker 3: And I'm told that that's very high on Mike Rabel's

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Speaker 3: lists throughout the hallways. Always Yeah, he's.

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Speaker 1: Getting serious about his music too, right, like we're all

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Speaker 1: not too. He's getting music a musach.

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Speaker 2: A lot of your people yesterday were you.

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Speaker 3: People, Mike? You thoughts, Kyle Duggart looked a little thinnery yesterday.

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Speaker 2: Supermitched feelings?

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Speaker 4: Here?

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Speaker 3: Am I alone?

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Speaker 2: Please help you?

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Speaker 3: Just never listened to me. He played one game against

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Speaker 3: practice squad players, Milton, and now he's all of a

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Speaker 3: sudden worth what to go.

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Speaker 2: That's true, then somebody should get fired.

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Speaker 3: I legitimately just said that. And I'm not picking on

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Speaker 3: you because I know you argue with me, because that's

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Speaker 3: what we contract really obligated to do. So he's basically

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Speaker 3: not pat original.

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Speaker 2: Like Americans are a letdown to your family.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 2: All right, welcome the Patriots Unfiltered. It is Thursday here

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Speaker 2: at Jillette Stadium, and it's Paul, it's Deuce, it's me Evan.

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Speaker 2: It'll be by later. Will Alex be by later?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Okay, and we might have a special guest come in

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Speaker 2: in a few moments. We'll see. Yeah. Well, I don't know,

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Speaker 2: you know, I think that's kind of but we're we're

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Speaker 2: in the midst now of the off season. Voluntary workouts.

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Speaker 2: People one weekend, one weekend.

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Speaker 1: At this point, I'm running.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're gonna have some availability today. Who's speaking. That's

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Speaker 2: where Evan is by the James.

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Speaker 1: Bradbery Okay, his name is Gart Garrett Garrett.

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Speaker 2: Sorry, I don't know you think of Ray Bradbery, the

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Speaker 2: science fiction author. James Bradberry was an Eagle. I feel sorry.

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Speaker 3: Cornerback, cornerback. Yeah, yeah, it's Garrett Bradbury. Garrett and Antonio Gibbie.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so they'll be talking to the media today.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's where Evan is, and I think Alex is

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Speaker 3: at the community event that she is gonna try to

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Speaker 2: Okay, all right, our two.

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Speaker 1: Uh yeah, she sent me, I'm doing an A M

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Speaker 1: A for the newsletter this week. So I'll just give

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Speaker 1: you a bunch of good questions. Thank you everyone for

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Speaker 1: writing in so well.

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Speaker 2: Is that with Reddit?

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Speaker 6: No, it's just asked me anything, So alex questions online

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Speaker 6: and receive them.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. It's funny like when someone I had to remember

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Speaker 3: when Lauren was here. Lauren Spencer was you know, sort

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Speaker 3: I'm thinking to myself, it's like, give me. I was

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Speaker 3: I thought it was something I was going to have

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Speaker 1: Answer questions about your life, Paul, that's all that's fun.

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Speaker 3: That's fun. I'm looking forward to uh, I'm a little discrassed.

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Speaker 3: Mike is knocking his mic off as you. Yeah, I'm

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Speaker 3: interested to see what what the listeners have in store

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Speaker 3: for you. Mike, what kind of I asked you why

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Speaker 6: Well, there wasn't about a potential calendar with Ashton Genty

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Speaker 6: put together for a while now that Paul, you've lost

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Speaker 1: I just I can't believe the drafts in two weeks.

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Speaker 1: I always think about it because my wife's birthday.

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Speaker 3: Day now, Mike, is that going to cause problems? Can

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Speaker 1: So as long as you remember it. I think that's

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Speaker 3: I did print out because I told you another developing opinion.

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Speaker 2: What's up, Mitch? Yes, all right, first time, long time.

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Speaker 2: That's debt.

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Speaker 9: If you didn't project out Drake May's career over the

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Speaker 2: Hey, Yeah, I mean it's it's the Marino thing. Marino

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Speaker 3: Rather have a great, great quarterback. I'll find a way

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but we should mention.

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Speaker 3: It rather than have to hope that I win despite

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Speaker 2: Thanks Mitch. Appreciate the call, but just reminds me voting

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Speaker 3: Good job by Mitch by bringing that up.

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Speaker 2: Thanks Mitch. The three nominees are Adam VNITII, Julian Edelman,

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Speaker 3: I voted for Adam VENTITII as well. I actually one

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Speaker 1: Boker yep.

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Speaker 2: Wes Weckler, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I voted for Vinitary, Mankins and Welker. And I just

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Speaker 2: The most post I saw from a Patriot fan backs

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Speaker 3: Julian Edelman is a lock and he was stone cold

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Speaker 2: If you took n Harry and Edelman titles now, are

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Speaker 3: But I'm talking about two really really good patriots. One

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Speaker 1: It's really hard. I mean, you put it on the fans.

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Speaker 6: You have to be willing to live with the results

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Speaker 1: To vote already I did, did you online?

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Speaker 2: Well look at that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you know, like like Pluss, both Adam

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Speaker 3: The three guys on the ballot this year, to me,

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Speaker 1: A sudden, Adams. This is why I'm.

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Speaker 3: Looking at like Adam and Wes Welker and Logan Mankins.

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Speaker 3: If you tell me they're going to get in, I'll

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Speaker 1: Being finalists next year, that would that would be kind

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Speaker 3: When you only pick one a year, You just what

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Speaker 2: The two of them are up. Yeah, I mean, no

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Speaker 3: I would just argue that they overcame his drops and

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Speaker 3: they didn't overcome Welker's. That to me is the difference.

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Speaker 6: I remember a lot of Edelman drops I only remember

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Speaker 6: one Welker, Yeah, I mean, so it takes and I remember,

445
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Speaker 6: I remember Edelman drops in the suit.

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Speaker 3: I remember Edelman drops in the Atlanta super Bowl, you know,

447
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Speaker 3: during the course of the game. But only people remember

448
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Speaker 3: because they won. And you know, Welker getting ten for

449
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Speaker 3: one hundred and three in Super Bowl forty two, no

450
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Speaker 3: one remembers why because they lost.

451
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Speaker 1: Yeah, he would have been the MVP probably.

452
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Speaker 3: You know, like it's unfair, but that's life.

453
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Speaker 1: That's all it were.

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Speaker 6: And that's what it just makes me sad a little bit,

455
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Speaker 6: is that that Wes Welker, that was so much fun

456
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Speaker 6: in two thousand and seven when you got this guy

457
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Speaker 6: who looks like he's five foot seven, he's got these

458
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Speaker 6: crazy eyes.

459
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Speaker 2: And you're like, who's this guy like?

460
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Speaker 3: And he was so good, he was uncoverable.

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Speaker 1: There was so much special about him.

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Speaker 3: It's just in six seasons he had more catches, for

463
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Speaker 3: more yards, for more touchdowns than edel Manhaddan eleven. Right.

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Speaker 2: And the thing about Welker is it's not only was

465
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Speaker 2: he a chain mover, hard to cover, exact route runner.

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Speaker 2: He wasn't a guy like uh uh, you know, one

467
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Speaker 2: of those smaller receivers that would drop to the ground

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Speaker 2: as soon as he called no break tackles. He was

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Speaker 2: a strong guy up too, but I mean yards after cat.

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Speaker 3: But I would say the same for Edelman, like always.

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Speaker 3: Edelman was tough, tough with the ball in his hands

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Speaker 3: after the catch too. But both great punt returners, Like

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Speaker 3: they're both like to me this, I don't really know

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Speaker 3: why that there would be a question for either one,

475
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Speaker 3: but evidently there is a question on welcome because I

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Speaker 3: can't even get him.

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Speaker 1: To the ballot.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like I've just dropped the ball, like

479
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Speaker 3: and I didn't. I didn't even I wasn't the one

480
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Speaker 3: who nominated him this year. I have nominated him past.

481
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Speaker 3: Karen Grigian did a great job of nominating West this year,

482
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Speaker 3: and we can't get him on the ballot. I I

483
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Speaker 3: don't know. I'm not sure what was supposed to do.

484
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Speaker 3: But I mean, this is this is what makes it fun,

485
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Speaker 3: you know, when it gets to this and now now

486
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Speaker 3: the fans will decide which one of those three guys,

487
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Speaker 3: all extremely deserving candidates. Vinitari would be my top choice.

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Speaker 3: It would be in that order, vinitary Mankins, Edelman.

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Speaker 6: But are you worried about Mankins because I worry that

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Speaker 6: he's gonna get caught up in the wash of the Edelmans,

491
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Speaker 6: the Gronks, the Bills, the tom not the Thoms, but.

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Speaker 3: That, yeah, I think he'll be of hall Off get

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Speaker 3: in eventually. I worry about Welker because we can't even

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Speaker 3: get him on the ballot. At least Mankin's been on

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Speaker 3: the ballot a couple of times. These three times, I

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Speaker 3: think on the ballot.

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Speaker 2: Mike and Flora wanted a quick question, if it was

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Speaker 2: only Welker versus Edelman, who would you put in?

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Speaker 3: I would put in Welker, But my guess is the

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Speaker 3: vast majority of you people, as Felker likes to say,

501
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Speaker 3: would put in Edelman. And I don't think you're wrong,

502
00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:23,440
Speaker 3: Like this isn't I get snarky a lot. This isn't

503
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Speaker 3: one of those examples where I'm being snarky. I'm not.

504
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Speaker 3: You know. This isn't like, oh, they put Kevin falk

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Speaker 3: in you know ahead of you know? No, this is

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Speaker 3: this is a truly all time great patriot.

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Speaker 2: Tyler and Delaware is the voting structured for to allow

508
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Speaker 2: us multiple votes. I was concerned that this may sway

509
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Speaker 2: and overtake the polls on this I think it should

510
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Speaker 2: only be one vote per site. Visit with a login

511
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Speaker 2: or email, you may run into people's spamming votes for

512
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Speaker 2: a certain player. I love the show, Thanks for the guy.

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Speaker 2: Blah blah blah. I tried to vote multiple times, but

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Speaker 2: it said you've come to your limit for this IP address.

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Speaker 3: So what is that like? Ten?

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Speaker 2: No? No, it was twice. Oh yeah, but that said

517
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Speaker 2: if I went to another place, on another computer, I

518
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Speaker 2: would probably be able to vote again because there is

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Speaker 2: no logging, which.

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Speaker 3: Fred explained system. I think that much too.

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Speaker 2: I think overall it all comes out in the wash.

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Speaker 2: But here is Evan speaking of washed. Oh I'm only.

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Speaker 10: So because I don't think I was ever. What's the

524
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Speaker 10: opposite of wash?

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Speaker 2: How was that?

526
00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:32,680
Speaker 3: It was good?

527
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Speaker 10: Yeah, we talked to it was James Bradberry Garrett brad Barrow,

528
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Speaker 10: which was a good seems like a good guy. Seems

529
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Speaker 10: like a a personality of talking and pretty lengthy answers

530
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Speaker 10: and thoughtful answers and just an all around good guy.

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Speaker 10: Had some good things to say about Stefan Diggs, who

532
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Speaker 10: obviously was with him in Minnesota for a little while,

533
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Speaker 10: and uh, Drake may and and just playing some competitive

534
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:03,920
Speaker 10: ping pong already with Drake. It sounds like around the facility,

535
00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:07,159
Speaker 10: so you can tell that he understands that, you know,

536
00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:10,040
Speaker 10: the relationship between the two of them quarterback center is

537
00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:13,040
Speaker 10: going to be important. So it seems like they're trying

538
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Speaker 10: on and off the field to kind of build that

539
00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:18,480
Speaker 10: camaraderie already, which is which is good.

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Speaker 3: I liked what he had to say.

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Speaker 10: It seemed like a pretty personable guy.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, how was Antonio Gibson.

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Speaker 10: Oh, we haven't gotten to Gibson yet, but I've had

544
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Speaker 10: my chance to talk to Gibson plenty. But yeah, he's uh.

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Speaker 1: You know quick.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I just hung out for brad Berry. He which

547
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Speaker 10: was which was worth? It was good?

548
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Speaker 2: Okay, sounds good. Back to this Hall of Fame thing, Ellen, Wisconsin.

549
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Speaker 2: I'm voting for Jewels. To me, it's who embodies being

550
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Speaker 2: a patriot. To me, that's Jewels. I think that Macan's

551
00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:51,399
Speaker 2: and Minitary both deserve it. But at the end of

552
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Speaker 2: the day, one is a guard and the other is

553
00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:55,879
Speaker 2: a kicker who spent more time on the Colts. I

554
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Speaker 2: hear that. I've heard the Colts. That's but here's the thing.

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Speaker 2: The reason why Vinitarry was up for the Pro Football

556
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Speaker 2: Hall of Fame is because of what he did here,

557
00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:07,600
Speaker 2: let's face it, it's because of what he did as

558
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Speaker 2: a Patriot. I know he won a Super Bowl with

559
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Speaker 2: the Colts, but what makes Adam vin Arry the most

560
00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:16,119
Speaker 2: clutch kicker of all time is the stuff that he

561
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Speaker 2: did with the Patriots.

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Speaker 3: I would agree with that, but I think if his

563
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Speaker 3: career ended when he left the New England, I don't

564
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Speaker 3: think he'd be up for the Pro Football Hall of Fame.

565
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Speaker 3: I think the numbers out of really he put he's

566
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Speaker 3: the all time leading scorer, like he put the numbers

567
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Speaker 3: away with longevity too, So you don't think like what

568
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Speaker 3: you said is accurate. The clutch part. He's known as

569
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Speaker 3: being the greatest clutch kicker because of what he did

570
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Speaker 3: as a Patriot's I think indisputable. As you didn't see it, really,

571
00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:48,199
Speaker 3: but you heard Fred and I heard it from the

572
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Speaker 3: opposite end zone. We seriously couldn't see it, like it

573
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Speaker 3: went up and we lost it. Remember, But because I

574
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Speaker 3: went the opposite end zone, we were standing in the

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Speaker 3: other end zone.

576
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:02,159
Speaker 2: We just heard people yellings like we just heard the

577
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:04,720
Speaker 2: roar of the crowd, just we're going over time?

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Speaker 3: Was he kicking into the scoreboard end or the no

579
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Speaker 3: no the other end the video.

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Speaker 5: That you can vote two times per day on the whole.

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Speaker 3: I would tell you how you, Matt, I would tell

582
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Speaker 3: you the south end zone, but.

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Speaker 5: I went Master wants to know you can vote two

584
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Speaker 5: times a day for the Hall of Fame.

585
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 2: Two times a day times like why, why why do

586
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:22,879
Speaker 2: we allow that?

587
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:25,600
Speaker 3: This is your department for it? I don't know why

588
00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:27,320
Speaker 3: he's asking me these questions.

589
00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:30,919
Speaker 2: Uh Nick writes in speaking of how tough Welker is.

590
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:34,040
Speaker 2: I remember when James Harrison absolutely destroyed him going over

591
00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:36,520
Speaker 2: the middle, and I thought he'd die, and then two

592
00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:38,760
Speaker 2: plays later he's back in the game. Of course, that

593
00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:40,640
Speaker 2: was back in the day when helmet the helmet hits

594
00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:43,359
Speaker 2: were not banned. If that happened today, Harrison might be

595
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Speaker 2: in jail.

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Speaker 1: There were a few of those hits over the course

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Speaker 1: of Wes Welker's career that I just I don't know

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Speaker 1: how he got out.

599
00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:52,080
Speaker 3: And like that one that Edelman took from Chancellor you

600
00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:54,119
Speaker 3: brought you brought up earlier? Is another one like that?

601
00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:58,720
Speaker 3: Those two guys tough nails. Yeah. Yeah, it made them

602
00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:01,359
Speaker 3: unique in that role because that role is generally a

603
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:05,440
Speaker 3: very short term position. Because of that, because you're constantly

604
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:08,200
Speaker 3: going over the middle and subjected to big hits, those

605
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:11,440
Speaker 3: two guys were able to to stack up season after

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Speaker 3: season of production while taking that punishment.

607
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:17,040
Speaker 2: Ian in Calcutta Patriots Hall of Fame isn't necessarily the

608
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:19,640
Speaker 2: best player, but also the best Patriot. I agree with that.

609
00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:20,359
Speaker 3: I agree with it.

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00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:23,560
Speaker 2: Also, Edalman easily gets the edge for by being a

611
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:26,000
Speaker 2: lifetime Patriot, unfair to the others. As it may be,

612
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:28,840
Speaker 2: lifetime Patriots should get preferential treatment.

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Speaker 3: I think there's something I don't I don't like that now,

614
00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:35,159
Speaker 3: that reasoning, but I do like his original premise or

615
00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:37,920
Speaker 3: her I'm sorry, yeah, forget who I think.

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Speaker 2: I think there is something different about a team hall

617
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Speaker 2: of Fame.

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Speaker 3: Team hall of Fame doesn't necessarily go strictly by the talent,

619
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Speaker 3: but I don't. In other words, I don't blame Wes

620
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Speaker 3: Welker for the fact that he started his career in Miami.

621
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Speaker 3: That's you know, and then the Patriots recognized how good

622
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Speaker 3: he was and they brought him here, and that's where

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Speaker 3: he became Wes Welker, like, I don't hold that against him,

624
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Speaker 3: and certainly mank it's his situation. I don't hold against

625
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:02,720
Speaker 3: me what Adams.

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00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:05,200
Speaker 2: Rick and Rhode island. Edelman gets the vote over Welker

627
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:08,160
Speaker 2: based on the video of Belichick talking to Welker about

628
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:11,920
Speaker 2: Wally Pip when Edelman was returning punts with Welker out.

629
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Speaker 3: Exactly songs song as we're using good Life.

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Speaker 2: Well, listen, Welker wasn't always Bill Belichick's favorite player because Welker.

631
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Speaker 1: Was little Soldiers.

632
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Speaker 2: Yeah, he was a sneaky wise guy, not that sneaky. Yeah.

633
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Speaker 10: I just I know that when we talked about the

634
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Speaker 10: committee meeting and even before the committee meeting, that this

635
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Speaker 10: was potentially something that would come up, that Edelman is

636
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Speaker 10: going to beat Vinitari on a popular vote. And I

637
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:46,800
Speaker 10: feel like, very early, very small sample size on Twitter,

638
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:49,640
Speaker 10: I get that, but it kind of feels like that's

639
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:52,160
Speaker 10: sort of happening, like at least out of the gate,

640
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:55,440
Speaker 10: and I'm curious to see if that's truly what ends

641
00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:58,960
Speaker 10: up happening. I think that Edelman's popularity is just through

642
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:01,320
Speaker 10: the charts, and and I know that you know his

643
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:03,360
Speaker 10: podcast I'm sure is going to be all over this,

644
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:06,560
Speaker 10: and he's probably gonna have, you know, be campaigning for

645
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:09,840
Speaker 10: himself through his podcast. Even if it's you know, tongue

646
00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:11,520
Speaker 10: in cheek, it's still going to be happy happening.

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Speaker 3: He tweeted earlier, A great company. You know. He retweeted

648
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Speaker 3: the graphic with the three I just like I have

649
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Speaker 3: the I understand the mentality of you know, the Patriots

650
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:26,080
Speaker 3: Hall of Fame is difference, not like strictly I do

651
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Speaker 3: wonder about what Evan just said though, about the popularity

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Speaker 3: side of it. Like I I think if if this

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Speaker 3: was done, like saying, in like the late eighties, like

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Speaker 3: MOSTI Tatupu would be in the Hall of Fame. There

655
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Speaker 3: was no Patriot that he would have gone in the

656
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Speaker 3: Hall of Fame ahead of Andre Tippett if it was

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Speaker 3: like nineteen eighty eight vote because he was like the

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Speaker 3: most popular Patriot.

659
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Speaker 1: At the time. He was my favorite Patriot growing up.

660
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:47,520
Speaker 3: You know, Most's Moose's in, you know, in the end zone.

661
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:50,040
Speaker 2: Like I didn't know what real winning looked like back.

662
00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:52,280
Speaker 3: But I'm just saying, like the popularity side of it,

663
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:54,680
Speaker 3: I shouldn't be grow determine it, you.

664
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:57,600
Speaker 10: Know, Yeah, I just I feel like if we don't

665
00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:01,760
Speaker 10: go in order, then this log jam is never gonna

666
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:04,360
Speaker 10: We're never gonna get out of the log jam because

667
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:07,800
Speaker 10: guys like Military are going to be pushed down the

668
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:11,080
Speaker 10: line by Edelman and Gronkowski and you know any twenty

669
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:13,840
Speaker 10: tens dynasty guys that start to come up too. So

670
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:16,440
Speaker 10: it's like, if you don't go in order, then you're

671
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 10: creating a Rabel situation where it takes some five ballots,

672
00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 10: you know, to finally right.

673
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:25,440
Speaker 3: I mean, you could get a situation, not a stretch

674
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:30,520
Speaker 3: where whoever doesn't get in this year, like it's gonna

675
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:33,800
Speaker 3: be Gronk next year. You know, McCarty's knocking on the door,

676
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:37,360
Speaker 3: Belichick's knocking on the door, Matthew Slater's knocking on the door.

677
00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:40,720
Speaker 3: You know, a guy like Mankins could be waiting a

678
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:43,240
Speaker 3: decade and be on the ballot every every single time.

679
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:50,320
Speaker 3: That could happen. Easy Bill in because it's popularity.

680
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:51,880
Speaker 2: Bill in San Diego. I agree with you guys at

681
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:54,240
Speaker 2: welcome belongs to the Patriots Hall of Fame. Personally, I

682
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:56,120
Speaker 2: think he belongs in the Pro Football Hall of Fame,

683
00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:59,239
Speaker 2: especially if players like Terrell Davis are in his six

684
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:01,240
Speaker 2: years in a Patrier his uniform, or as good as

685
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:05,160
Speaker 2: just about any wide receivers six consecutive years on any team.

686
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:07,640
Speaker 2: As for getting into the Patriots Hall of Fame, the

687
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 2: two ways I see it happening are either Brady comes

688
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:13,720
Speaker 2: out and adamantly says he belongs, which is highly unlikely,

689
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:19,720
Speaker 2: or Craft makes an owner's pick all parcels. Well, that's

690
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:21,800
Speaker 2: that's kind of what we're worried about. When it comes

691
00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:22,240
Speaker 2: to Welker.

692
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:27,680
Speaker 6: I'm interested about how Bill will go with I mean,

693
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:29,880
Speaker 6: I'm sure the fans will definitely vote Bill in, but

694
00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:30,560
Speaker 6: what's I.

695
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 2: Think Bill should be a special one, just like Tom was.

696
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:36,160
Speaker 2: I mean, technically Bill still coaching, so I don't think

697
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:41,040
Speaker 2: he should be eligible yet, but once he's done coaching, period,

698
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:44,120
Speaker 2: I think he should be eligible.

699
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:46,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like he wouldn't you think?

700
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:48,880
Speaker 3: I think Bill should be eligible if he never if

701
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:51,600
Speaker 3: he never goes back to the NFL, I think, whatever

702
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:52,760
Speaker 3: he does in college.

703
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:54,400
Speaker 2: But you can't, like he has to guarantee that, like

704
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:55,960
Speaker 2: he has to tell me I'm never going back to

705
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 2: the NFL. Okay, now the clock's ticking.

706
00:32:57,760 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 10: Well, it's kind of like Tom playing in Tampa, Like

707
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:01,520
Speaker 10: you could and putty in the Patriots.

708
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:04,240
Speaker 3: Why do we not make anybody else make that promise?

709
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:06,720
Speaker 3: And what why didn't we make anybody else make that

710
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:08,240
Speaker 3: promise that they weren't coming back.

711
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:12,120
Speaker 2: Because we're changing eligibility for that one person. We're saying

712
00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:13,280
Speaker 2: we're not gonna wait four years.

713
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:15,120
Speaker 3: No no, no, But like, how do you know that someone

714
00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 3: else isn't going to come back.

715
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 2: Because we've waited four years and probably they're not.

716
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:20,560
Speaker 3: Oh, I'm not saying that you don't wait four years

717
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:21,160
Speaker 3: for Bill.

718
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:22,840
Speaker 2: If I'm saying you don't.

719
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:25,040
Speaker 3: But I'm saying, if he coaches North Carolina for the

720
00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:27,160
Speaker 3: next three years, I'm putting him in the Patriots Hall

721
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:27,480
Speaker 3: of Fame.

722
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:28,000
Speaker 2: Really.

723
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:31,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's still coaching though, but he's not coaching in

724
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:31,920
Speaker 3: the NFL.

725
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:34,680
Speaker 2: I know, But like he's one step away from it. No,

726
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 2: he hasn't like stopped.

727
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:38,400
Speaker 3: He hasn't coaching for four years.

728
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:40,840
Speaker 2: You know what I mean. It's a little different, don't

729
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:41,200
Speaker 2: you think?

730
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:43,080
Speaker 3: Not to me? But I understand.

731
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:45,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, she you know, and she got Bill miked up.

732
00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:50,400
Speaker 2: A little bitting the content nows koniefa. Who's who's uh?

733
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:51,280
Speaker 2: Who was over there?

734
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:52,080
Speaker 1: Uh?

735
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:56,680
Speaker 2: Jordan's no, No, there was a little little something a.

736
00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:57,720
Speaker 3: Rapper, Lil Wayne.

737
00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:01,240
Speaker 1: Lil Wayne was a rapper.

738
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:06,840
Speaker 2: Little Wayne was practice.

739
00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:11,480
Speaker 10: Yeah, I did see that they're close contact a rapper,

740
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 10: you know they're close.

741
00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:20,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, Andrew's important? What's up? Andrews too much?

742
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:21,040
Speaker 3: Thanks? Like my call.

743
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 4: I have two things for you today.

744
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:24,719
Speaker 8: Question on abdual Carter.

745
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:28,920
Speaker 11: I feel like he is our ideal landing spot at

746
00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:31,239
Speaker 11: for if we can get him. Uh like a bit

747
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:33,080
Speaker 11: of a pipe dream all the time, and now with

748
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:37,719
Speaker 11: the traps partner going to the giants already having care

749
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:39,399
Speaker 11: of you, like that.

750
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:42,440
Speaker 4: Might actually give up. I just have a question about

751
00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:43,640
Speaker 4: the character concern.

752
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:47,200
Speaker 11: I heard a story about an incident on like a bus,

753
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 11: but there's an altercation that.

754
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:51,680
Speaker 10: He had hurt.

755
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:53,800
Speaker 2: What actually happened, Yeah, I don't know.

756
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:57,080
Speaker 3: I started with a truck like three years ago, a

757
00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:57,560
Speaker 3: year ago.

758
00:34:57,640 --> 00:34:59,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know if I got into it with

759
00:34:59,200 --> 00:34:59,719
Speaker 2: a tow truck.

760
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:01,240
Speaker 3: Don't know about the bust story.

761
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:03,239
Speaker 10: I don't know about the story is the is the

762
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:07,640
Speaker 10: tow truck driver? That's a hard one. Yeah, that that's

763
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 10: the that's the story with him. But I mean the

764
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:15,160
Speaker 10: charges were dropped, like it never escalated beyond that. I

765
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:18,359
Speaker 10: don't know it's not it's not like a situation that's

766
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:23,720
Speaker 10: currently active, you know, in terms of his you know status.

767
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:26,239
Speaker 3: Let's hope it causes him default. I'll take him. I'll

768
00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 3: make him a.

769
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:28,759
Speaker 2: Think about if Paul was eligible for the draft, all

770
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:33,160
Speaker 2: the red flags about confrontations that he's had, toys, r us,

771
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:34,920
Speaker 2: all that stuff, it would all come out.

772
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:37,840
Speaker 3: I would say, is good luck finding a confrontation in

773
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:38,719
Speaker 3: my past.

774
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:40,359
Speaker 2: Youth youth sports.

775
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:42,399
Speaker 1: They find that spot on Route nine?

776
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:44,400
Speaker 3: Cops? Cops?

777
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:47,600
Speaker 12: Did he like publication?

778
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:53,920
Speaker 10: There's a on a serious note, Uh, you know, back

779
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:58,200
Speaker 10: to Bob McGinn, had you know, his annual position by

780
00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 10: position round up where he digs up all the dirt.

781
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:03,880
Speaker 10: And we were joking yesterday on Catch twenty two. You

782
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:07,080
Speaker 10: don't want Bob McGinn calling around about your client if

783
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:11,600
Speaker 10: you're an agent, right, Like he's the one. He's a reporter.

784
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:13,520
Speaker 10: He was with Green Bay for a very long time,

785
00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:15,799
Speaker 10: or covering the Packers for a very long time, and

786
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 10: he's like the grim Reaper when it comes to the draft.

787
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:20,879
Speaker 10: So uh, he he said that, you know, there are

788
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:24,359
Speaker 10: some concerns about Abdul Carter being high maintenance and just

789
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:25,680
Speaker 10: being kind of a diva.

790
00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:29,279
Speaker 3: I've heard that, but yeah, but again.

791
00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:33,359
Speaker 10: Is McGinn, you know, reporting this, but that that has

792
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:37,520
Speaker 10: been more of it than legal trouble or anything truly

793
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:41,200
Speaker 10: off the fields, more like football character questions like Monday

794
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:43,480
Speaker 10: through Saturday. Is this guy going to be in the gym,

795
00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:45,600
Speaker 10: in the weight room, in the film room. Is he

796
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:48,080
Speaker 10: going to be doing you know, working on his craft

797
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:49,880
Speaker 10: or is he kind of just one of those people

798
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:52,640
Speaker 10: that's going to show up on Sundays and be a star.

799
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 10: Which I would say, well, if he's going to be

800
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:56,879
Speaker 10: a star, then he's going to be a star.

801
00:36:57,000 --> 00:37:00,640
Speaker 3: But your boy, you mentioned the visit a dual Carter

802
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:04,880
Speaker 3: that Albert Breer talked about. He spoke about Carter a

803
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:07,640
Speaker 3: little bit in these terms that he's just he's kind

804
00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:10,840
Speaker 3: of a different guy and it's not all that different

805
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:14,400
Speaker 3: from some other elite passport. He mentioned Micah Parsons, he

806
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:18,560
Speaker 3: mentioned Von Miller. Different, just kind of the they're on

807
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:20,759
Speaker 3: the wrong they do. Like I think the phrase that

808
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:23,400
Speaker 3: Breer used was, I wouldn't expect him to be a

809
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:27,640
Speaker 3: captain of a team someday. He's kind of does keeps

810
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 3: to himself and you know a little bit of a

811
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:33,799
Speaker 3: you know that kind of an individual guy, not that

812
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:36,320
Speaker 3: that he doesn't want to win, but that he's sort

813
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:38,960
Speaker 3: of into his past rush and being great at that

814
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:41,240
Speaker 3: and not necessarily.

815
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:43,680
Speaker 2: I don't know. I think Will Campbell is going to

816
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:46,799
Speaker 2: be the fourth pick for the NFL draft. I kind

817
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 2: of thin and I'm all in on it.

818
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:51,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's go.

819
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:52,160
Speaker 2: Let's go.

820
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:54,440
Speaker 3: We'll get some answer to the draft coming up. Now,

821
00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:56,520
Speaker 3: we'll find out from from the inside.

822
00:37:56,640 --> 00:38:01,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I think, Oh, listen, we got maybe a visitor.

823
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:11,520
Speaker 2: What's happening for what's up?

824
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:19,839
Speaker 13: Have a welcome, all right, we're talking about Howard don't counter,

825
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:24,279
Speaker 13: so welcome to pictures filtered hunter.

826
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:28,680
Speaker 2: All right, So how's the workouts going? Do you feel?

827
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:30,120
Speaker 2: Did you get Jack this morning?

828
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:34,360
Speaker 7: To trying my best man, trying my best trying you know,

829
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 7: the workouts are good though.

830
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:36,200
Speaker 1: It's good.

831
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:40,160
Speaker 2: Are you kind of guy who I can't wait for

832
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:42,799
Speaker 2: the season to start or you know what I need?

833
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:45,239
Speaker 2: We need this time to get ready, Like we can

834
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:46,080
Speaker 2: take our time here.

835
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:50,360
Speaker 14: I like this time because it's a little bit more relaxed.

836
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:53,640
Speaker 14: It's you know, a little bit slower, you know, a

837
00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:55,280
Speaker 14: slower pace, but kids.

838
00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:56,359
Speaker 3: To like build connections with guys.

839
00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:57,719
Speaker 7: A little bit more off the field.

840
00:38:57,960 --> 00:38:59,399
Speaker 14: You know, you're not just like diving in the game

841
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 14: plans and everything. So it's it's a pretty cool time.

842
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 6: Yeah, I got a question for you, and I don't

843
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:07,240
Speaker 6: know if you can answer this yet. You've had different

844
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:09,320
Speaker 6: offensive coordinator pretty much ever you've been here.

845
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:10,359
Speaker 1: To get Josh back.

846
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:12,880
Speaker 6: I think everybody's wondering what did Josh learn, what's going

847
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:15,359
Speaker 6: to be different. I'm sure you probably don't even know yet,

848
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:17,080
Speaker 6: but do you have any sense are you curious of

849
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:20,000
Speaker 6: what's Josh gonna what's changed from when he was here

850
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:20,839
Speaker 6: in twenty twenty one.

851
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:22,440
Speaker 7: I mean, Josh is going to be Josh man.

852
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:25,759
Speaker 14: It's it's hard to say right now, you know, it's

853
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:28,799
Speaker 14: it's so early. But I'm excited to have Josh here.

854
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:33,040
Speaker 14: You know, he's a tremendous mind. Offensively enjoyed being with

855
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 14: him at twenty one, so again, excited to kind of

856
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:38,759
Speaker 14: get that ball rolling again and kind of dive in

857
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:41,719
Speaker 14: an offense and really trying to master things. I think

858
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:43,799
Speaker 14: that's the biggest thing with everything, you know, just trying

859
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:47,280
Speaker 14: to you know, execute everything at a high level, because

860
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 14: you know, he's a great coach and demand's a lot

861
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 14: and excited to be under him again.

862
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:53,880
Speaker 3: You never asked him about his fascination with the visor.

863
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:56,239
Speaker 7: With the advisor, I haven't I have it.

864
00:39:56,440 --> 00:40:00,520
Speaker 3: Maybe y'all should ask him that any chance to throw

865
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:02,880
Speaker 3: it all with with Drake? May you know during and

866
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:04,919
Speaker 3: I know it hasn't been a long off season because

867
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 3: you're just getting back, but yeah, you know, have you

868
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:08,919
Speaker 3: guys had any of those plans? Maybe?

869
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:11,759
Speaker 14: Yeah, well, I mean we'll get plenty. We're gonna get

870
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:12,520
Speaker 14: plenty for sure.

871
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:12,880
Speaker 4: Uh.

872
00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:16,400
Speaker 14: You know, Drake's Drake's a great guy, great quarterback. So

873
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:18,840
Speaker 14: there will be a lot of throwing sessions in our future,

874
00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:22,520
Speaker 14: a lot of you know, connections and time spent in

875
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:24,320
Speaker 14: the meeting room and then also on the field. So

876
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:25,680
Speaker 14: excited for those times.

877
00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:28,040
Speaker 2: So when you're sitting at home and the Patriots of

878
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:31,440
Speaker 2: making all these free agent acquisitions, are you thinking, I

879
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:34,719
Speaker 2: can't wait to meet these guys and have you and

880
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:37,640
Speaker 2: you know, is there anyone that in particular like he's

881
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:38,759
Speaker 2: like this guy's cool?

882
00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:41,399
Speaker 3: Man?

883
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:43,640
Speaker 7: I'm glad to add everybody. I haven't been able to

884
00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:44,560
Speaker 7: meet everyone yet.

885
00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:47,799
Speaker 14: You know, it's kind of chaotic, a little bit which

886
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:50,279
Speaker 14: all over the place, you know, splitting workouts, just doing

887
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 14: a lot. But yeah, I met all the guys on

888
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:55,520
Speaker 14: the offense for sure, and excited to always add at people.

889
00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:57,879
Speaker 14: You know, I feel like we did a good job

890
00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:00,400
Speaker 14: of adding just like good football players, but also just

891
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:02,560
Speaker 14: good people too, And we're going to add a lot

892
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:03,200
Speaker 14: to our locker room.

893
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:03,960
Speaker 3: So looking forward to that.

894
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:04,879
Speaker 1: Sure.

895
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:07,880
Speaker 10: Just how exciting is that, you know, to see them

896
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:09,640
Speaker 10: bring in all these people kind of reminds me when

897
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 10: you got here in twenty one, when you came in

898
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:14,520
Speaker 10: with a big free agency class, Like does that reinvigorate

899
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:15,560
Speaker 10: the locker room a little bit?

900
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:18,600
Speaker 14: I mean, it's always good to add good football players,

901
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:22,480
Speaker 14: like I said, you know, and hopefully they can add that.

902
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:23,759
Speaker 14: But you know, we have a lot of work we

903
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:26,239
Speaker 14: got to put in together for sure. You know, we

904
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 14: got to come together as a team, We got to

905
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:31,320
Speaker 14: come together as a locker room, and you know we

906
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:33,600
Speaker 14: got to go out there and execute. So you know,

907
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:36,080
Speaker 14: we have a long road ahead of us. But it's

908
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:38,200
Speaker 14: it's fun to always add good football players in the

909
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:40,759
Speaker 14: locker room and excited to get to work with those guys.

910
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:44,320
Speaker 1: They brought Hooper back to teammate. How you guys compliment

911
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 1: each other? Good to have a guy back.

912
00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:48,480
Speaker 14: Yeah, I mean, I love who man. I really enjoyed

913
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:50,720
Speaker 14: my time just in the room with him on the field.

914
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:52,960
Speaker 14: You know, we communicate really well. I mean we're the

915
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:56,440
Speaker 14: same draft class, so same age. Man, We've known each

916
00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:58,040
Speaker 14: other for so long. To actually play with each other

917
00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:00,680
Speaker 14: last year was just such a joy and excited to

918
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:02,040
Speaker 14: kind of build upon that this next year.

919
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:02,480
Speaker 2: So hut.

920
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:04,799
Speaker 3: I wanted to ask you your your new coach used

921
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:06,400
Speaker 3: to talk about this all the time when he was

922
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:08,160
Speaker 3: a player, because you know, Fred and I are one

923
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:10,080
Speaker 3: hundred years old. We've been around long enough that he

924
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:13,800
Speaker 3: was playing when we were still covering. He used to

925
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:16,320
Speaker 3: always watch the draft and he wasn't alone. Larry Gizzel

926
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:18,920
Speaker 3: used to talk about this, and they just like cross

927
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:21,040
Speaker 3: off the names of the guys at their position. Do

928
00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:23,160
Speaker 3: you ever look at the draft and say, oh, you know,

929
00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 3: Tyler Warren, we don't need him slide.

930
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:28,839
Speaker 14: Do you ever watch the draft back in that way?

931
00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:31,800
Speaker 14: I don't know if I watch it that way. You know,

932
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:34,040
Speaker 14: I always love seeing success for the tight end position.

933
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:34,319
Speaker 11: Man.

934
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:36,759
Speaker 14: I feel like it's a little underappreciated, maybe sometimes in

935
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:40,960
Speaker 14: the draft because I feel like when teams have a

936
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:43,520
Speaker 14: good tight end. They're usually a good football team, so

937
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:46,320
Speaker 14: I always just you know, I appreciate the tight end position.

938
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:47,759
Speaker 14: I feel like there's a lot of good tight ends

939
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:50,880
Speaker 14: coming out this year and so I don't know if

940
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:53,840
Speaker 14: I watched it that way for sure, but you know,

941
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:56,080
Speaker 14: there there's a lot of good ones. You know, if

942
00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:57,680
Speaker 14: we add one, that would be great. We'd love to

943
00:42:57,680 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 14: have him under my wing and teach him as much

944
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:01,480
Speaker 14: as I can, because I had had a great guy

945
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:03,360
Speaker 14: when I came in the league, and Antonio Gates, and

946
00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:05,600
Speaker 14: he taught me a ton and really took me under

947
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:07,759
Speaker 14: his wing, and you know I was I'm very, very

948
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:08,320
Speaker 14: thankful for that.

949
00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:10,800
Speaker 2: I want you to talk about your trip to Africa

950
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:14,240
Speaker 2: because you took that with your wife during the off season.

951
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 2: But first we have a Claire from England who is

952
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:20,440
Speaker 2: like our biggest fan of tight ends. Yeah, I love

953
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:24,480
Speaker 2: it ends and hello everyone, Helloveren I have to I

954
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:27,200
Speaker 2: have to introduce her emails that way, and hello to

955
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:30,640
Speaker 2: the fabulous Hunter Henry big fan. With the landscape of

956
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:33,520
Speaker 2: the sport changing just within the space of your career,

957
00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:36,560
Speaker 2: what is the biggest difference that you feel impacts how

958
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:38,759
Speaker 2: you play your position as tight end.

959
00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:42,040
Speaker 14: Oh man, how the landscape of football.

960
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:45,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, like you know, like how the offense has changed

961
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:46,360
Speaker 2: or rules have changed.

962
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:49,200
Speaker 14: Man, I've gotten a lot of protection now, which is

963
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:51,000
Speaker 14: nice over the middle of the field a little bit.

964
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:53,600
Speaker 3: So maybe that is that could be a nice thing

965
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:53,960
Speaker 3: for me.

966
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:58,240
Speaker 14: Obviously the game it became a lot of a passing

967
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:01,279
Speaker 14: league for sure in the middle part of my career.

968
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:03,000
Speaker 14: I think it's reverting a little bit. It's you know,

969
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:05,560
Speaker 14: it's circling back to definitely being run oriented a little

970
00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:08,799
Speaker 14: bit so, but definitely the passing league is always good.

971
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:10,880
Speaker 14: You know, you love trying to make plays in the

972
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 14: passing game, So a little bit of both. But I've

973
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:16,320
Speaker 14: always tried to be a guy that can be versatile

974
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:18,920
Speaker 14: in the way of being a you know, a value

975
00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:20,480
Speaker 14: in the run game and a value in the past

976
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:22,640
Speaker 14: game and trying to take pride in both of those things.

977
00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:26,239
Speaker 14: So I think that is always needed in this league,

978
00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:28,360
Speaker 14: and it's it's can be hard to find sometimes I

979
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:31,720
Speaker 14: wouldn't say, I mean lead in the in the blocking realm,

980
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:33,719
Speaker 14: but I you know, I try to take pride in

981
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:35,960
Speaker 14: it and really really do a good job at it.

982
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:38,920
Speaker 14: And so I think being a versatile tied end and

983
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:40,920
Speaker 14: being able to do both is something I try to

984
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:42,000
Speaker 14: do myself.

985
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:45,160
Speaker 2: How much your quarterback is mobile effect like, has that

986
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:47,040
Speaker 2: changed how you play a little bit more?

987
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:50,680
Speaker 14: I mean definitely scrambled drill is a is a big

988
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:53,760
Speaker 14: part of this league, and Drake obviously is very mobile,

989
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:55,960
Speaker 14: and so you always have to be available and be

990
00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:58,640
Speaker 14: ready because the play can be extended and you kind

991
00:44:58,680 --> 00:44:59,759
Speaker 14: of have to keep your eyes on them, kind of

992
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:02,320
Speaker 14: get feel for, you know, where he likes things, and

993
00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:05,560
Speaker 14: work with him because those extended plays are big plays

994
00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:06,000
Speaker 14: in this league.

995
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:09,440
Speaker 2: So let's talk about your trip to Africa. Why did

996
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:11,239
Speaker 2: you go and what did you experience there?

997
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:13,799
Speaker 14: And yeah, yeah, it was man, it was a long

998
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:16,040
Speaker 14: time in the making, feel like. So the first part

999
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:18,839
Speaker 14: was a mission trip. I went with a group called

1000
00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:22,320
Speaker 14: International Justice Mission. It's a group that me and my

1001
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:25,759
Speaker 14: wife have been supporting for about eight or nine years.

1002
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:30,279
Speaker 14: It's a Christian organization that fights human trafficking across the

1003
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:34,480
Speaker 14: globe and they have a headquarters office in Narobi, Kenya.

1004
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:37,880
Speaker 14: That's where we spent about five days. We were between

1005
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:41,040
Speaker 14: there in a town called Mambasa, which is on the coast,

1006
00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:43,880
Speaker 14: and we were just meeting survivors, meeting people in the

1007
00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:47,200
Speaker 14: justice centers, meeting people that do the work on the

1008
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:50,600
Speaker 14: front lines, and just the support that we've been able

1009
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:52,440
Speaker 14: to provide in a way. Just to actually see it

1010
00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:57,200
Speaker 14: like in person was just honestly life changing and just

1011
00:45:57,320 --> 00:46:00,279
Speaker 14: really really meaningful for my wife and I was. It

1012
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:02,560
Speaker 14: was really really cool to be with with that group

1013
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:05,680
Speaker 14: for a couple of days. And then we went out

1014
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:08,279
Speaker 14: kind of in the and did a safari uh for five,

1015
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:11,080
Speaker 14: five or six days. That's always been on a bucket

1016
00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:13,239
Speaker 14: list of mine. So being able to kind of go

1017
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:16,040
Speaker 14: do that, see all the animals and uh, just do

1018
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:18,200
Speaker 14: that with me and my wife and then some friends

1019
00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:21,239
Speaker 14: of ours just got the cross that off the bucket list.

1020
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:23,520
Speaker 2: Do you have any encounters We're like, oh, this is

1021
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:27,360
Speaker 2: whatever is getting a little too close step on the

1022
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:28,080
Speaker 2: internet clips.

1023
00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:28,920
Speaker 15: It was.

1024
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:30,799
Speaker 3: There were a few sketchy times.

1025
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:33,239
Speaker 14: I think the first day or two, you know, we

1026
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:36,880
Speaker 14: we actually ran into some we like tracked down some

1027
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:40,800
Speaker 14: lines that like killed a buffalo and they were like

1028
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:42,960
Speaker 14: about to eat dinner and we were like this, our

1029
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:45,160
Speaker 14: driver just like pulled up on the buffalo that was

1030
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:46,759
Speaker 14: dead right there, and they were like coming over.

1031
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:47,040
Speaker 2: To eat it.

1032
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:51,239
Speaker 14: And we were all like, yo, like yeah, because this

1033
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:54,560
Speaker 14: is like this is an open truck, right, It's like

1034
00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:56,440
Speaker 14: a wide open truck, like you could just jump out

1035
00:46:56,560 --> 00:47:00,719
Speaker 14: or they could jump in. So it was it was

1036
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:04,719
Speaker 14: definitely a little bit jarring like at first, but the

1037
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:07,040
Speaker 14: driver's like, oh, don't worry, like these lines are used

1038
00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:07,680
Speaker 14: to these trucks.

1039
00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:08,320
Speaker 1: They're not.

1040
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:10,200
Speaker 14: They're like they don't even like bother us.

1041
00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:10,480
Speaker 1: In a way.

1042
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:13,480
Speaker 7: And I was like, Okay, I put a lot of

1043
00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:15,040
Speaker 7: trust in you, and sure enough.

1044
00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:17,480
Speaker 3: You know, look at me now I'm made it back.

1045
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:18,680
Speaker 2: So how was the food?

1046
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:23,320
Speaker 14: Food was solid? You know, African food definitely grew on me.

1047
00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:27,279
Speaker 14: I don't know if it was you know, there was

1048
00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:30,279
Speaker 14: there were some things maybe you don't like they're used

1049
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:33,640
Speaker 14: to Buffalo, just just some things that are different. But

1050
00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:37,440
Speaker 14: you know, it's good to try new cuisines, new cultures.

1051
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:38,880
Speaker 14: So you know, I really enjoyed it with that.

1052
00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:42,759
Speaker 2: Getting back to the mission work, if there's one thing

1053
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:46,160
Speaker 2: that you'd want everybody to know indoor how they can

1054
00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:48,040
Speaker 2: help or you know.

1055
00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:51,520
Speaker 14: Yeah, I mean I think the biggest thing with just

1056
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:55,120
Speaker 14: International Justice Mission and just like human trafficking in general,

1057
00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:59,160
Speaker 14: is like spreading awareness and like allowing people to know

1058
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:02,920
Speaker 14: like that this is going on because and a lot

1059
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:07,920
Speaker 14: of the areas in Kenya, these people just like are

1060
00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:10,440
Speaker 14: getting taken off the streets or you know, taken from

1061
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:16,000
Speaker 14: their families. Sometimes the families are selling the kids. It's terrible,

1062
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:18,800
Speaker 14: terrible things to the you know, in these communities that

1063
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:21,480
Speaker 14: are so poor and so ridden, and there's a lot

1064
00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:22,719
Speaker 14: of people that don't even know that some of the

1065
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:27,320
Speaker 14: stuff is going on. So just spreading awareness, obviously helping

1066
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:30,759
Speaker 14: fund or giving any aspect can can always help in

1067
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:33,239
Speaker 14: some aspect. If if your heart is called towards that,

1068
00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:36,520
Speaker 14: I would just call everybody to like, you know, just

1069
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:37,200
Speaker 14: look into it.

1070
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:38,080
Speaker 16: You know.

1071
00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:40,560
Speaker 14: That's that was someone came to talk to me when

1072
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:43,200
Speaker 14: I like in high school about like slavery and human

1073
00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:44,839
Speaker 14: trafficking and I was like, I can't believe that's still

1074
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:48,640
Speaker 14: going on to this day, and it just sparked interest

1075
00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:51,080
Speaker 14: in me at that time. Took me years until you know,

1076
00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:52,680
Speaker 14: I was like, all right, you know what, this is

1077
00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:55,720
Speaker 14: something I want to support and get behind. But hopefully,

1078
00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:57,880
Speaker 14: you know, if this can impact somebody, just to you

1079
00:48:57,920 --> 00:48:59,600
Speaker 14: know a little bit of spark or a little bit

1080
00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:02,879
Speaker 14: of like curiosity to find out a little bit more

1081
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:06,239
Speaker 14: and help spread awareness. That's really what i GM is

1082
00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:07,880
Speaker 14: all about, and what we're trying to do is just

1083
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:11,239
Speaker 14: spread awareness to try to eventually end in this in

1084
00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:11,920
Speaker 14: our lifetime.

1085
00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:15,160
Speaker 2: All right, well, good work, all right, we'll let you

1086
00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:15,560
Speaker 2: get back.

1087
00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:18,160
Speaker 3: I know you have meetings and stuff you have to do,

1088
00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:21,280
Speaker 3: so you know what to ask him any scheme related questions.

1089
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:23,719
Speaker 3: That's time he's gonna come with.

1090
00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:28,200
Speaker 1: You'll see.

1091
00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:32,439
Speaker 2: We appreciate you stopping in anytime, guys.

1092
00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:34,560
Speaker 7: I appreciate Henry.

1093
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:39,160
Speaker 2: All right, good stuff, good to see. Good to see

1094
00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:39,919
Speaker 2: the guys back.

1095
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:42,520
Speaker 3: You get a little jump and you get a little

1096
00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:44,120
Speaker 3: pep in your step when you give Did.

1097
00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:46,359
Speaker 1: You give a speech to the team? I don't know, Fred,

1098
00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:47,759
Speaker 1: Fred little rally the troops.

1099
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Speaker 3: Not yet, not yet not I'll stop by at some point. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: we got to get maybe maybe from Minnie camp. We've

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Speaker 3: got a chance. You know, you know, there might be

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Speaker 3: a little dragging, you know, you know, like because ot

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Speaker 3: as and then Mini camp comes and they get that

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Speaker 3: time off before training camp. It's when like mentally they

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Speaker 3: might be a little drained. Freads.

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Speaker 6: They appeared like the patent speech where they got flag

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Speaker 6: in the background and Fret's got the hard hat on.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the only good a FC opponent is a dead

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Speaker 1: a FC something like that. W that's what happens.

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Speaker 2: That's that's a famous line from Patten.

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Speaker 3: So all right, I don't think the af C Eastress

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Speaker 3: in Boston.

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Speaker 2: No, No, his history.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, did you see Patton?

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Speaker 3: I did not, but I know of it. I know,

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00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:38,080
Speaker 3: I know at the time that was.

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Speaker 2: That was the jaws of its time.

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Speaker 3: Wow, come on, so it doesn't hold up.

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Speaker 2: It was kind of a period. So you know, all right,

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Speaker 2: eight five five pass five hundred is the hotline podcast

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Speaker 2: at Patriots dot com is the email address. We're talking

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Speaker 2: about Patriots Hall of Fame, and and that voting is open,

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Speaker 2: it's Vintary, it's Mankins, and it's Edelman. I personally voted

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Speaker 2: for Vinitary. I know Paul voted for.

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Speaker 3: I haven't actually voted. That was my pick on the nomination. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: you're day in now an embarrassment of riches.

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Speaker 2: Who you're going to vote for?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 10: Yeah, order matters to make Yeah me too in this case.

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00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:26,160
Speaker 2: In this case it does, Will writes in while I

1132
00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:30,239
Speaker 2: love Squirrel, that's Edelman. Welker's success in the slot is

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00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:34,240
Speaker 2: the reason he Edelman was drafted after never having played

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00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:37,239
Speaker 2: a down at wide receiver. Welker has a special place

1135
00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:40,160
Speaker 2: in my heart, though, since the only Patriots game I

1136
00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:42,279
Speaker 2: have attended was the season open in Miami, and I

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00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:45,279
Speaker 2: watched Welker beat Ahmad Carroll for the ninety nine yarder

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Speaker 2: in Miami. The fact that he's not made the ballot

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00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:51,360
Speaker 2: is a travesty. I will vote for Adam or Mankins

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Speaker 2: or anyone else before Squirrel until Welker gets in.

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Speaker 1: I respect that. I respect that a lot.

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Speaker 6: I will say, though, I think the Gronk and Edelman

1143
00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:02,359
Speaker 6: induction ceremonies will pretty pretty lit. The kids say, that's

1144
00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:04,399
Speaker 6: still lit. It'll be pretty pretty cool of that though,

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00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:07,560
Speaker 6: There'll be a rackous crowd. Maybe not so much for Venetaria.

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Speaker 10: That would kind of be fun, Like if they let

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00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:12,560
Speaker 10: next year, if we put them in together, like because

1148
00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:16,120
Speaker 10: they already do with the past.

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Speaker 3: Rules.

1150
00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:20,080
Speaker 10: Yeah, the rules need to be you know, you need to.

1151
00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:21,959
Speaker 1: Rules.

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00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:27,520
Speaker 2: Travis in West Virginia, thanks for keeping the Hunter Henry

1153
00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:30,120
Speaker 2: appearance a secret until the last second. The spence was

1154
00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:32,520
Speaker 2: killing me and the reveal was so exciting. Eye roll

1155
00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:37,880
Speaker 2: that to Claire. I'm sure Claire was like, her email

1156
00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:40,360
Speaker 2: came in before the show, so somebody tipped it.

1157
00:52:42,080 --> 00:52:45,839
Speaker 3: Was actually it was tweeted out couple of times.

1158
00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:48,120
Speaker 2: There's also a push notification about it.

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00:52:48,719 --> 00:52:52,319
Speaker 3: Well, I don't think we were trying to put one

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Speaker 3: over on anybody.

1161
00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:55,160
Speaker 1: Slipping Claire of the information, Like just so you know

1162
00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:55,759
Speaker 1: a little tighter.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's but I gave Claire just send an email

1164
00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:02,279
Speaker 2: thanking me for reading her.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, how do you think a Hunter took that?

1166
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Speaker 2: She loves tight ends? I hope he took it the

1167
00:53:10,239 --> 00:53:18,040
Speaker 2: you know, sexual way. That's funny. That's funny. The position

1168
00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:23,200
Speaker 2: Mike writes in from North Carolina, Patriots needs to do

1169
00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:26,279
Speaker 2: whatever it takes to move up to pick two with

1170
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Speaker 2: Cleveland to get Travis Hunter. He's a general generational talent

1171
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Speaker 2: that does not come around often. Plus you get someone

1172
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Speaker 2: that plays both sides of the ball. Nothing against Abdul Carter,

1173
00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:41,640
Speaker 2: but Hunter is the guy. For years, we've been complaining

1174
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Speaker 2: about getting a young, potential superstar receiver to go with

1175
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Speaker 2: a quarterback, and finally there's one in this year's draft

1176
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Speaker 2: to go after. Ownership and verybel need to give Cleveland

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Speaker 2: whatever they want. So my question is, what would we

1178
00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:56,080
Speaker 2: have to give up when it comes to compensation to

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Speaker 2: Cleveland to get to two. I say give them pick

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Speaker 2: four along with the Jude on round three pick in

1181
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Speaker 2: our number one next year.

1182
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Speaker 3: Do you want to give all that up for Travis Hunner.

1183
00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:10,839
Speaker 2: He does is to move up to spots to want

1184
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Speaker 2: to give all that up.

1185
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Speaker 3: I don't want to do that.

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Speaker 6: I really like Travis hunter too. I still just think

1187
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Speaker 6: that there are some questions about what is his ceiling? Look,

1188
00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:21,120
Speaker 6: what is he really going to be? Is he really

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Speaker 6: going to be a play every down both way player

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Speaker 6: or where in the middle does it actually end up falling?

1191
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Speaker 1: Is he able to go both ways?

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Speaker 3: Is what kind of at that stage of the draft

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Speaker 3: where like you're even the best playing those two guys

1194
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Speaker 3: like the best players. We just spent fifteen minutes doing

1195
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Speaker 3: it for ab dual Carter and now you know we're

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Speaker 3: doing it and it's happening. Like is he a generational

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Speaker 3: guy like you said, or is it the fact that

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Speaker 3: he's so versatile and so talented with the ability to

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Speaker 3: do both that we're overrating his ability to do either

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Speaker 3: one right? And I'm not saying that.

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Speaker 10: Please don't, please don't jump on because I know how

1202
00:54:57,239 --> 00:55:00,480
Speaker 10: he's generational for the fact that he can play both

1203
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Speaker 10: sides of the ball. I don't know if that makes

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Speaker 10: him a generational talent, do you know what I'm saying?

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Speaker 10: I mean, like, if you put him in last year's

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Speaker 10: receiver class, is he even the best receiver in the draft?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 6: Like?

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Speaker 10: I think that's an honest question.

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Speaker 3: I don't think he would have been ahead of any

1211
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Speaker 3: of those three.

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Speaker 10: I think he might have been ahead of Odoonza, but

1213
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Speaker 10: I don't think he would have been ahead of Marvin

1214
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Speaker 10: Harrison and neighbors. So, like, what's generational about him is

1215
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Speaker 10: what he does, and that is that he plays both sides.

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Speaker 10: That's generational. We haven't seen that truly.

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Speaker 2: Did They called champ Bailey generational at by time?

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Speaker 10: But I don't think but Champa did it as much

1219
00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:38,080
Speaker 10: as Travis under truly has played full time both sides

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Speaker 10: of the football.

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Speaker 3: I don't think, and I could be wrong, but I

1222
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Speaker 3: don't think champ Bailey entered the draft as a legitimate

1223
00:55:45,239 --> 00:55:47,640
Speaker 3: two way like he was going to play both ways.

1224
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Speaker 2: In the now absolutely right he did not.

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Speaker 3: I don't think. I don't think, no, I know he

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Speaker 3: played both ways at George. I mean hines Wood played

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Speaker 3: like quarterback at Georgia.

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Speaker 1: You know, like there was I.

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Speaker 3: Remember like a lot of different versatility from different players.

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Speaker 3: I don't remember anybody like this that was legitimately getting

1231
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Speaker 3: like people who matter, you know, Daniel Jeremiah's and you

1232
00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:11,279
Speaker 3: know Lewis ra like guys that know what they're doing,

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Speaker 3: legitimately saying this guy could play both ways. I don't

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Speaker 3: remember that.

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Speaker 2: And you think, if do you think Travis Hunter could

1236
00:56:17,840 --> 00:56:19,920
Speaker 2: have done what he did if he went to a

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Speaker 2: team like Alabama or LSU.

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Speaker 3: It's a great question.

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Speaker 1: I honestly don't think so. I mean, I it's just

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Speaker 1: you need a coach like Dion that's willing to give

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Speaker 1: you the chance, I think.

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Speaker 3: I mean, but assuming you have the opportunity, would have

1243
00:56:31,840 --> 00:56:34,040
Speaker 3: been able to do it, probably, I don't know. I mean,

1244
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Speaker 3: I think he's really really gifted athletically. I'm sure this

1245
00:56:38,040 --> 00:56:39,800
Speaker 3: is a guy who was like a five star recruit

1246
00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:42,319
Speaker 3: and only went to Jackson State because of Dion. Yeah.

1247
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Speaker 10: I mean, he's basically been the best player at his

1248
00:56:45,840 --> 00:56:48,560
Speaker 10: level his entire life. Yeah, you know, he's one of

1249
00:56:48,640 --> 00:56:51,719
Speaker 10: those types of guys, and like Colorado's not Alabama, but

1250
00:56:52,040 --> 00:56:53,680
Speaker 10: like it's the Big twelve. Like, it's not like they're

1251
00:56:53,719 --> 00:56:56,040
Speaker 10: playing absolute cupcakes all the time.

1252
00:56:57,560 --> 00:56:59,480
Speaker 3: It's a good level. It's not the SEC, but it's

1253
00:56:59,480 --> 00:57:00,440
Speaker 3: a good level football.

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Speaker 10: I don't know. I think the one thing I would

1255
00:57:03,160 --> 00:57:05,600
Speaker 10: say about him playing both ways is that I think

1256
00:57:05,600 --> 00:57:06,960
Speaker 10: we all need to get out of our heads of

1257
00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:09,600
Speaker 10: that happening early in his NFL career, because I don't

1258
00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:12,200
Speaker 10: think the team that drafts him is going to want

1259
00:57:12,239 --> 00:57:13,799
Speaker 10: him to do it right away.

1260
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Speaker 3: Now.

1261
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Speaker 10: We're able talked about a little bit at the owners meetings,

1262
00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:19,000
Speaker 10: like if you get to the point and you're two

1263
00:57:19,160 --> 00:57:21,040
Speaker 10: or even you're you know, halfway through the season, where

1264
00:57:21,080 --> 00:57:22,560
Speaker 10: you feel like, all right, he has a really good

1265
00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:25,720
Speaker 10: grasp of corner, like he knows what he's doing. We

1266
00:57:25,840 --> 00:57:28,560
Speaker 10: feel comfortable with him at corner. Now, let's see if

1267
00:57:28,600 --> 00:57:31,680
Speaker 10: we can mix in some touches on offense. There are

1268
00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:34,280
Speaker 10: some snaps on offense, that's one thing. But I don't

1269
00:57:34,280 --> 00:57:37,040
Speaker 10: think anybody is expecting him to come into the league

1270
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Speaker 10: Week one and be playing seventy snaps on both sides

1271
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Speaker 10: of the football, Like, I don't think that's what we're

1272
00:57:42,560 --> 00:57:45,320
Speaker 10: looking at it in history, it's more of a long

1273
00:57:45,440 --> 00:57:45,840
Speaker 10: term thing.

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Speaker 3: Imagine like what like they draft Travis Hunter and first game,

1275
00:57:51,120 --> 00:57:53,360
Speaker 3: like out of the shoot, he plays like every snap.

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Speaker 1: Like what does it look like in practice?

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Speaker 6: I mean, we obviously practice closes off to any game,

1278
00:57:57,080 --> 00:57:58,440
Speaker 6: but what if we're in training camp and it's like

1279
00:57:58,520 --> 00:58:00,160
Speaker 6: he's with the offense that he just pops over the

1280
00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:02,400
Speaker 6: next day going back and he practiced.

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Speaker 10: He practiced with the with the defense at Colorado. So

1282
00:58:05,120 --> 00:58:10,400
Speaker 10: he practiced mostly at corner at Colorado. But it's you

1283
00:58:10,480 --> 00:58:13,040
Speaker 10: can't play like high school. Like in high school, like

1284
00:58:13,120 --> 00:58:16,840
Speaker 10: on on Tuesdays you do offense. On Wednesdays you do defense,

1285
00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:19,080
Speaker 10: you know, because it's the same guys.

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00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:21,960
Speaker 6: Right, I mean, not to blow my own, I wasn't

1287
00:58:22,080 --> 00:58:24,680
Speaker 6: probably the worst tackle to ever play high school football,

1288
00:58:24,720 --> 00:58:26,800
Speaker 6: but that first game, like I got talked into playing

1289
00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:28,600
Speaker 6: when I went to prep school, and then I realized

1290
00:58:28,680 --> 00:58:30,960
Speaker 6: during the course of the game, I'm playing every snap

1291
00:58:31,040 --> 00:58:33,080
Speaker 6: because we didn't have enough guys. So I played every

1292
00:58:33,120 --> 00:58:35,560
Speaker 6: special teams and I was terrible. I'm not saying that

1293
00:58:35,600 --> 00:58:36,640
Speaker 6: that was good. Why they made him.

1294
00:58:36,520 --> 00:58:39,000
Speaker 3: Play for the Cross because they didn't have enough guys

1295
00:58:39,040 --> 00:58:42,600
Speaker 3: because he had he was the only quarterback, and like

1296
00:58:42,680 --> 00:58:46,440
Speaker 3: that kid don't want football.

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Speaker 1: They saw this and they're like, you're a tackle, like

1298
00:58:49,040 --> 00:58:51,640
Speaker 1: six ft, they're a big guy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: I never want anything to be over more than Willison Northampton.

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Speaker 6: Oh my god, they took their starters out, but I

1302
00:58:58,800 --> 00:59:00,439
Speaker 6: wear the halftime. I'm like, I know I ever wanted

1303
00:59:00,440 --> 00:59:02,440
Speaker 6: anything to be over more in my life than that

1304
00:59:02,520 --> 00:59:05,200
Speaker 6: football game because they were just killing me, killing me

1305
00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:07,640
Speaker 6: and I was, you know, defensive tackle too, So I'm

1306
00:59:07,680 --> 00:59:08,800
Speaker 6: in like a four point stance.

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Speaker 1: I can barely like it's problem bent over. You know,

1308
00:59:12,160 --> 00:59:12,600
Speaker 1: it's bad.

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00:59:12,880 --> 00:59:15,800
Speaker 10: It's funny because we were watching the Bruins have that

1310
00:59:15,960 --> 00:59:19,880
Speaker 10: all cast now with like Bergeron and Tuker Rask and Bergeron.

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00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:22,720
Speaker 10: They asked him about practicing on the PK and he

1312
00:59:22,840 --> 00:59:24,360
Speaker 10: was like, well, I didn't really get to practice it

1313
00:59:24,440 --> 00:59:26,320
Speaker 10: very much because I was on the power play, right,

1314
00:59:26,480 --> 00:59:29,760
Speaker 10: So they would rather be practice the power play than

1315
00:59:29,800 --> 00:59:34,400
Speaker 10: practice on the PK. So Patrice Bergeron killed penalties at

1316
00:59:34,480 --> 00:59:37,280
Speaker 10: maybe the highest level of anybody that you know of

1317
00:59:37,360 --> 00:59:40,960
Speaker 10: his generation without really practicing it. And like, that's kind

1318
00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:43,040
Speaker 10: of how I feel about Travis Hunter, a wide receiver,

1319
00:59:43,600 --> 00:59:45,560
Speaker 10: is that like he didn't even really practice it and

1320
00:59:45,640 --> 00:59:47,120
Speaker 10: he was one of the best in the nation at

1321
00:59:47,200 --> 00:59:50,320
Speaker 10: it just off of God given instincts and natural talent.

1322
00:59:50,680 --> 00:59:52,600
Speaker 10: Like imagine if he actually gets a chance to really

1323
00:59:52,680 --> 00:59:54,920
Speaker 10: focus on it and practice it, you know, day in

1324
00:59:55,000 --> 00:59:56,760
Speaker 10: and day out, Like how good he could get at it.

1325
00:59:56,840 --> 00:59:58,760
Speaker 3: That's what would you be willing to give up for him? Fred,

1326
01:00:00,800 --> 01:00:02,400
Speaker 3: Because I think the draft pick and I'm not a

1327
01:00:02,520 --> 01:00:04,360
Speaker 3: huge like we got to hold the draft picks kind

1328
01:00:04,400 --> 01:00:06,400
Speaker 3: of guy Joe Milton, But I think the draft picks

1329
01:00:06,440 --> 01:00:09,880
Speaker 3: are important right now too, Like the quantity of those,

1330
01:00:10,080 --> 01:00:14,600
Speaker 3: like the four top hundred picks, right, I would hesitate

1331
01:00:14,720 --> 01:00:15,640
Speaker 3: to give up two of them.

1332
01:00:16,120 --> 01:00:20,400
Speaker 2: I would be I might be willing to, you know,

1333
01:00:20,560 --> 01:00:23,360
Speaker 2: obviously the pick swap and then next year is two

1334
01:00:23,440 --> 01:00:23,840
Speaker 2: and three.

1335
01:00:27,440 --> 01:00:30,440
Speaker 3: So well, so you don't give it up any of

1336
01:00:30,480 --> 01:00:31,000
Speaker 3: them this year?

1337
01:00:31,120 --> 01:00:31,240
Speaker 12: Right?

1338
01:00:31,440 --> 01:00:31,640
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1339
01:00:33,080 --> 01:00:35,400
Speaker 2: I just like hear something no, because like if I

1340
01:00:35,520 --> 01:00:37,439
Speaker 2: tell them we'll give you a fifth or like they're

1341
01:00:37,480 --> 01:00:40,280
Speaker 2: gonna laugh. So it's got to be high picks other

1342
01:00:40,360 --> 01:00:41,000
Speaker 2: than the swap.

1343
01:00:41,400 --> 01:00:44,600
Speaker 3: You know, the swap doesn't count, I know, So it's.

1344
01:00:44,520 --> 01:00:46,640
Speaker 2: It's gotta be high picks, and I don't want to

1345
01:00:46,680 --> 01:00:47,880
Speaker 2: give up high picks this year.

1346
01:00:48,200 --> 01:00:52,160
Speaker 10: Yeah, you need about eight hundred points on the trade

1347
01:00:52,240 --> 01:00:54,480
Speaker 10: value chart, which is the equivalent of like a mid

1348
01:00:54,560 --> 01:00:58,080
Speaker 10: to low first round pick. So you have to get

1349
01:00:58,280 --> 01:01:01,919
Speaker 10: to the future first. So your future, can I guess

1350
01:01:02,400 --> 01:01:05,760
Speaker 10: the future first is really a decent.

1351
01:01:06,160 --> 01:01:08,240
Speaker 2: How about a future first two years from now?

1352
01:01:09,840 --> 01:01:15,760
Speaker 6: It's really like and then second, yeah, it's even more removed, right, Yeah,

1353
01:01:15,920 --> 01:01:18,320
Speaker 6: I just I don't think Travis Hunter's worth two first rounds.

1354
01:01:18,400 --> 01:01:21,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess. I guess I don't love him that much, you.

1355
01:01:21,440 --> 01:01:25,000
Speaker 3: Know, I see, I am incredibly intrigued by the talent.

1356
01:01:25,080 --> 01:01:26,920
Speaker 3: I just don't think they're in a position where they

1357
01:01:26,960 --> 01:01:29,400
Speaker 3: can make that kind of a trade. I think these picks,

1358
01:01:30,080 --> 01:01:32,480
Speaker 3: they're going to have to find some good football players

1359
01:01:32,800 --> 01:01:35,000
Speaker 3: with those four picks. I mean, they're going to need

1360
01:01:35,080 --> 01:01:37,120
Speaker 3: to find you know, at least two hits.

1361
01:01:37,280 --> 01:01:40,480
Speaker 2: If you knew that he was going to be a

1362
01:01:40,640 --> 01:01:48,000
Speaker 2: perennial floor pro bowler, I'm not saying all pro. If

1363
01:01:48,040 --> 01:01:49,640
Speaker 2: you knew every year he was going to be.

1364
01:01:49,680 --> 01:01:52,040
Speaker 10: A pro bowler, what would you give him at what position?

1365
01:01:52,960 --> 01:01:53,560
Speaker 2: Wide receiver?

1366
01:01:55,800 --> 01:02:00,960
Speaker 10: That I mean a decent amount. But I don't have

1367
01:02:01,000 --> 01:02:03,360
Speaker 10: a crystal ball, right, you know, I don't know if

1368
01:02:03,400 --> 01:02:04,040
Speaker 10: he's gonna be there.

1369
01:02:04,120 --> 01:02:06,320
Speaker 3: If you're gonna tell me he's in the conversation with

1370
01:02:06,720 --> 01:02:10,040
Speaker 3: with Chase and you know in the AFC Chase digs,

1371
01:02:10,160 --> 01:02:13,280
Speaker 3: you know, as an AFC pro bowler. Yeah, now I'm

1372
01:02:13,280 --> 01:02:15,560
Speaker 3: willing to give up two of those those picks. But

1373
01:02:16,680 --> 01:02:18,160
Speaker 3: you can't do it that I know, I know.

1374
01:02:19,600 --> 01:02:22,760
Speaker 2: Jeremiah writes in Back to the Hall of Fame, I

1375
01:02:22,880 --> 01:02:26,120
Speaker 2: honestly would put Vinetarian this year, then put Gronkson Jewels

1376
01:02:26,160 --> 01:02:28,320
Speaker 2: in next year. Evan literally said this as I was

1377
01:02:28,600 --> 01:02:29,640
Speaker 2: finishing the email.

1378
01:02:30,040 --> 01:02:32,880
Speaker 10: If there's a year to put two guys in together,

1379
01:02:33,680 --> 01:02:35,720
Speaker 10: like they are like the best of friends, right, So

1380
01:02:35,800 --> 01:02:37,760
Speaker 10: I feel like that it's not good. They're not gonna

1381
01:02:37,760 --> 01:02:40,520
Speaker 10: look at that and be like, oh, this is disrespectful,

1382
01:02:40,640 --> 01:02:42,040
Speaker 10: Like they you're gonna look at it like this is

1383
01:02:42,080 --> 01:02:44,720
Speaker 10: a chance to party, you know, Like so.

1384
01:02:47,400 --> 01:02:51,560
Speaker 2: Paul has a very important phone call apparently anyways, yep,

1385
01:02:52,560 --> 01:02:55,600
Speaker 2: Sean writes in Wes Welker is a better football player

1386
01:02:55,640 --> 01:02:58,560
Speaker 2: than Julian Edelman, but he's the victim of circumstances beyond

1387
01:02:58,640 --> 01:03:01,760
Speaker 2: his control. Playing for just one team as a small factor,

1388
01:03:01,800 --> 01:03:04,440
Speaker 2: but winning super Bowls is the main thing. Edelman was

1389
01:03:04,520 --> 01:03:07,280
Speaker 2: fortunate to be part of three super Bowls and being

1390
01:03:07,360 --> 01:03:11,000
Speaker 2: the MVP in one of them for Welker. Unfortunately, he

1391
01:03:11,200 --> 01:03:13,640
Speaker 2: was with the Patriots between seven and twelve and the

1392
01:03:13,720 --> 01:03:16,360
Speaker 2: Giants ruined his path. It's like the Patriots in the

1393
01:03:16,440 --> 01:03:19,600
Speaker 2: Pro Football Hall of Fame, Gino Capilletti and Stanley Morgan

1394
01:03:19,640 --> 01:03:22,040
Speaker 2: are good enough to be there, but the Patriots didn't win.

1395
01:03:23,360 --> 01:03:24,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's all fair.

1396
01:03:26,120 --> 01:03:27,720
Speaker 6: You get into the nitty gritty of it, and you

1397
01:03:27,840 --> 01:03:31,080
Speaker 6: keep having examples on both sides for both those guys,

1398
01:03:31,160 --> 01:03:33,680
Speaker 6: and it's hard to choose between your kids because both

1399
01:03:33,720 --> 01:03:36,960
Speaker 6: those guys made so many huge plays, put their bodies

1400
01:03:37,000 --> 01:03:39,800
Speaker 6: through so much punishment for this team and to win games.

1401
01:03:40,360 --> 01:03:43,680
Speaker 6: And I've always hated that Welker gets killed for that

1402
01:03:43,840 --> 01:03:46,720
Speaker 6: one play. As Paul said, super Bowl forty two, he

1403
01:03:46,760 --> 01:03:48,600
Speaker 6: probably would have been the MVP. It probably would have

1404
01:03:48,600 --> 01:03:52,320
Speaker 6: had a very similar kind of trajectory that that Edelman had.

1405
01:03:52,440 --> 01:03:53,480
Speaker 3: But yeah, I just.

1406
01:03:53,600 --> 01:03:57,520
Speaker 10: Wonder, like from the committee, like my question about it

1407
01:03:57,560 --> 01:04:03,440
Speaker 10: would be what Logan Macons more deserving than Wes Welker

1408
01:04:03,800 --> 01:04:06,240
Speaker 10: to be on the ballot. No disrespect to Logan Macons,

1409
01:04:06,280 --> 01:04:09,840
Speaker 10: but he was in the no Super Bowl, you know,

1410
01:04:10,280 --> 01:04:13,800
Speaker 10: ten year period to see it's the same thing, right,

1411
01:04:13,960 --> 01:04:15,960
Speaker 10: So if we're gonna hold all of like, you know,

1412
01:04:16,040 --> 01:04:17,600
Speaker 10: he didn't win and he doesn't have a ring in

1413
01:04:17,720 --> 01:04:20,240
Speaker 10: edelmanhett like I We're gonna you hold out against Welker,

1414
01:04:20,800 --> 01:04:24,240
Speaker 10: I'm not. I I love Logan Macons too. He's one

1415
01:04:24,240 --> 01:04:27,160
Speaker 10: of the best offensive linemen of the Dynasty, no doubt

1416
01:04:27,160 --> 01:04:29,000
Speaker 10: about it. But at the end of the day, he's

1417
01:04:29,160 --> 01:04:32,240
Speaker 10: he's a guard and we're talking about a guard versus

1418
01:04:32,800 --> 01:04:36,560
Speaker 10: a prolific wide receiver, right, And so if you're gonna

1419
01:04:37,280 --> 01:04:39,760
Speaker 10: be like, basically stand for Logan Makons because he's been

1420
01:04:39,840 --> 01:04:42,080
Speaker 10: on the ballot multiple years in a row at this point,

1421
01:04:42,800 --> 01:04:44,840
Speaker 10: and but you're not gonna put Welker on the ballot

1422
01:04:44,880 --> 01:04:47,120
Speaker 10: because he dropped the ball in the Super Bowl that

1423
01:04:47,440 --> 01:04:49,920
Speaker 10: wasn't a great throw like that. That's what we're gonna

1424
01:04:50,440 --> 01:04:53,440
Speaker 10: we're gonna do. But for Logan Macons, it's yeah, like

1425
01:04:53,480 --> 01:04:55,600
Speaker 10: we don't care, Like I just don't understand that.

1426
01:04:55,840 --> 01:04:57,720
Speaker 6: That's why I worry that Logan Makins is gonna be

1427
01:04:57,840 --> 01:05:01,240
Speaker 6: the maid of honor for these next few years of

1428
01:05:01,360 --> 01:05:03,040
Speaker 6: halling fame inductions because there's just.

1429
01:05:03,080 --> 01:05:06,720
Speaker 1: Big names with big followings and recency bias. Yes, it

1430
01:05:06,760 --> 01:05:07,480
Speaker 1: all plays into it.

1431
01:05:07,640 --> 01:05:12,959
Speaker 2: Yep, Luif writes in Deuce was right. Tuesday's conversation about

1432
01:05:13,040 --> 01:05:15,560
Speaker 2: Mike's and CIS students got me thinking, since he said

1433
01:05:15,640 --> 01:05:19,360
Speaker 2: his ancestors are from Quebec City, which is also my hometown.

1434
01:05:19,440 --> 01:05:22,240
Speaker 2: I started doing some reading about the history of the

1435
01:05:22,320 --> 01:05:25,000
Speaker 2: Dusau name in Quebec City, and it turns out that

1436
01:05:25,120 --> 01:05:28,720
Speaker 2: there is actually a historical building in Quebec City under Dusau.

1437
01:05:29,200 --> 01:05:33,479
Speaker 2: It's named the Misson Francois Xavier Dussault. It was built

1438
01:05:33,520 --> 01:05:36,880
Speaker 2: between eighteen eighty seven and eighteen ninety one. Around that time,

1439
01:05:36,960 --> 01:05:40,720
Speaker 2: the Dessaux family ran a very successful tobacco manufacturing business,

1440
01:05:41,040 --> 01:05:44,120
Speaker 2: which helped them secure the fortune necessary to build such

1441
01:05:44,120 --> 01:05:46,520
Speaker 2: a nice building. Seriously, you should look it up. It

1442
01:05:46,600 --> 01:05:49,320
Speaker 2: looks great. Anyway, I'm done with my boring friend Canadian

1443
01:05:49,400 --> 01:05:52,160
Speaker 2: history lesson. Thanks for so are thosey Well?

1444
01:05:52,200 --> 01:05:53,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I could go even farther back than that.

1445
01:05:53,960 --> 01:05:57,320
Speaker 6: The original is named to Saint Japan who was there

1446
01:05:57,400 --> 01:06:00,360
Speaker 6: in like the sixteen hundred, so early early one. Yeah.

1447
01:06:00,880 --> 01:06:02,959
Speaker 10: Do you do like ancestry or something?

1448
01:06:03,040 --> 01:06:03,640
Speaker 1: It was so fun.

1449
01:06:03,760 --> 01:06:05,480
Speaker 2: I do have like generational wealth?

1450
01:06:05,600 --> 01:06:10,160
Speaker 6: Liked No, but I think you guys would probably be surprised,

1451
01:06:10,240 --> 01:06:12,120
Speaker 6: like if you did if you did it, it's fascinating

1452
01:06:12,120 --> 01:06:13,840
Speaker 6: when you uncover who all your ancestors were.

1453
01:06:13,880 --> 01:06:16,840
Speaker 2: And my ancestors were probably like European peasants.

1454
01:06:17,040 --> 01:06:18,880
Speaker 10: Well, I mean a lot of my peasants, Like my

1455
01:06:19,280 --> 01:06:23,800
Speaker 10: ancestors were like Romanian Jews. Like cool, it's not like

1456
01:06:23,880 --> 01:06:25,200
Speaker 10: I'm like famous, it's all.

1457
01:06:25,280 --> 01:06:28,080
Speaker 6: It's all from my grandmother's mother. She's old American and

1458
01:06:28,280 --> 01:06:30,920
Speaker 6: she has all the roots going back to like connections

1459
01:06:30,960 --> 01:06:34,000
Speaker 6: to the witch trials, connections to Plymouth plantation, King Phillips

1460
01:06:34,040 --> 01:06:35,640
Speaker 6: were revolutions civil alas.

1461
01:06:36,160 --> 01:06:40,280
Speaker 2: So were you lighting matches during against it? Like what

1462
01:06:40,480 --> 01:06:41,360
Speaker 2: was what was going on?

1463
01:06:41,720 --> 01:06:43,480
Speaker 1: Yeah? I was lighting lighting off the cannons.

1464
01:06:44,440 --> 01:06:47,240
Speaker 2: Wow, that's something that to know that, that's pretty cool

1465
01:06:47,320 --> 01:06:50,000
Speaker 2: to know that type of family history.

1466
01:06:50,080 --> 01:06:51,200
Speaker 1: Oh, it's that's super fun.

1467
01:06:51,240 --> 01:06:52,880
Speaker 6: I'm jealous of people who haven't done it because I

1468
01:06:52,920 --> 01:06:54,680
Speaker 6: got kind of the end where you know everything and

1469
01:06:54,720 --> 01:06:56,480
Speaker 6: I know where all you know how all my different

1470
01:06:56,520 --> 01:06:58,480
Speaker 6: ancestors got here. A couple from Ireland, a couple from

1471
01:06:58,520 --> 01:07:01,000
Speaker 6: plumbers from Scotland's and other big which not as not

1472
01:07:01,120 --> 01:07:02,720
Speaker 6: as flashy fred as some of the other ones.

1473
01:07:02,760 --> 01:07:03,080
Speaker 17: I know.

1474
01:07:03,120 --> 01:07:06,320
Speaker 6: They had plumbing back back in the nineteen hundred, I

1475
01:07:06,320 --> 01:07:08,520
Speaker 6: had two ancestors coming that were both plumbers from Scotland.

1476
01:07:09,560 --> 01:07:11,680
Speaker 2: Wow, okay, not that exciting.

1477
01:07:11,960 --> 01:07:12,880
Speaker 10: It's very interesting.

1478
01:07:13,000 --> 01:07:16,200
Speaker 3: I don't have any of this knowledge, not really any

1479
01:07:16,320 --> 01:07:17,160
Speaker 3: desire to learn it.

1480
01:07:17,760 --> 01:07:21,480
Speaker 2: Why what what's the matter with you? All right, we

1481
01:07:21,600 --> 01:07:23,840
Speaker 2: get a del into this. Why don't you want to

1482
01:07:23,880 --> 01:07:26,439
Speaker 2: learn about history? You afraid of what you're going to find?

1483
01:07:26,920 --> 01:07:27,280
Speaker 11: I don't know.

1484
01:07:27,440 --> 01:07:32,760
Speaker 10: Maybe oh really he took Corleoni over Italian throw and two?

1485
01:07:33,120 --> 01:07:36,280
Speaker 3: Uh yeah, yeah, both my parents are both you know,

1486
01:07:36,320 --> 01:07:39,840
Speaker 3: they're both Italian. But you know, I'm not like my grandparents.

1487
01:07:39,880 --> 01:07:42,080
Speaker 3: I believe on both sides were born here.

1488
01:07:42,520 --> 01:07:45,280
Speaker 10: So they can you back to the other country.

1489
01:07:45,360 --> 01:07:48,400
Speaker 3: No, but I'm just saying, like it's not like you know, yeah,

1490
01:07:48,720 --> 01:07:51,480
Speaker 3: but I'm not going to use the derogatory terms, but

1491
01:07:52,080 --> 01:07:52,760
Speaker 3: off to both.

1492
01:07:53,240 --> 01:07:57,760
Speaker 2: There's other like their parents were probably maybe immigrants. I

1493
01:07:57,960 --> 01:08:01,920
Speaker 2: assume that's how they got here, and like going back, like,

1494
01:08:02,280 --> 01:08:04,240
Speaker 2: you know what part of Italy your family's from.

1495
01:08:04,560 --> 01:08:06,200
Speaker 3: I believe Avellino Avelino.

1496
01:08:06,920 --> 01:08:08,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, is that northern south?

1497
01:08:09,680 --> 01:08:12,160
Speaker 3: I believe it's a little bit toward the south.

1498
01:08:12,200 --> 01:08:14,200
Speaker 2: I would say it's north because you're blue eyes.

1499
01:08:14,200 --> 01:08:17,040
Speaker 3: So that's like I thought. I always thought that, you know, so,

1500
01:08:17,120 --> 01:08:19,920
Speaker 3: now he's gonna he's gonna make How do you don't know?

1501
01:08:20,200 --> 01:08:21,080
Speaker 2: S you should learn?

1502
01:08:21,640 --> 01:08:23,960
Speaker 3: I always thought I was from northern Italy because of that,

1503
01:08:24,479 --> 01:08:28,280
Speaker 3: I'm very fair skinned, blue eyes. But you don't have

1504
01:08:28,360 --> 01:08:31,920
Speaker 3: that olive oil question in the charm Yeah, I have

1505
01:08:32,040 --> 01:08:33,479
Speaker 3: the charm product.

1506
01:08:33,520 --> 01:08:35,080
Speaker 2: People are from Avellino, Yeah.

1507
01:08:35,000 --> 01:08:38,519
Speaker 3: From it. I believe I'm from Avellino. I believe both

1508
01:08:38,800 --> 01:08:43,400
Speaker 3: my grandparents, both my mother and father's parents, they're emanated

1509
01:08:43,439 --> 01:08:45,719
Speaker 3: from the same area, probably all came together.

1510
01:08:45,800 --> 01:08:48,400
Speaker 10: They can trace you back to the mother country, I think,

1511
01:08:48,920 --> 01:08:51,120
Speaker 10: and which means that you could be a made man, right, Oh,

1512
01:08:52,000 --> 01:08:52,640
Speaker 10: I think not.

1513
01:08:53,840 --> 01:08:55,120
Speaker 3: I grew up in the right place for it.

1514
01:08:55,760 --> 01:08:58,640
Speaker 10: I mean, do you think not because you would never

1515
01:08:58,760 --> 01:09:00,559
Speaker 10: do that sort of thing, or because as they can't

1516
01:09:00,600 --> 01:09:02,240
Speaker 10: trace you back to the mother country.

1517
01:09:02,479 --> 01:09:04,160
Speaker 1: You don't go looking for you you don't want to.

1518
01:09:04,520 --> 01:09:07,360
Speaker 3: I don't have the answers. I don't have the answers,

1519
01:09:07,400 --> 01:09:10,040
Speaker 3: But I just I feel like I hear like Mike's

1520
01:09:10,080 --> 01:09:12,600
Speaker 3: story is a great one, that he did all that

1521
01:09:12,720 --> 01:09:14,720
Speaker 3: research and found out all these wonderful things. I hear

1522
01:09:14,800 --> 01:09:17,120
Speaker 3: so many other stories that don't end like that, that

1523
01:09:17,360 --> 01:09:17,680
Speaker 3: kind of.

1524
01:09:17,840 --> 01:09:22,519
Speaker 2: Just like fizzle out, well worse, Well, like you find

1525
01:09:22,560 --> 01:09:24,720
Speaker 2: out some dark secrets, like you like.

1526
01:09:25,080 --> 01:09:28,519
Speaker 3: Your families were own slaves or something something you don't

1527
01:09:28,520 --> 01:09:28,880
Speaker 3: want to know.

1528
01:09:29,240 --> 01:09:32,080
Speaker 2: Well, I know, but like maybe you should know, you know,

1529
01:09:32,600 --> 01:09:34,479
Speaker 2: I don't know. I just think it's interesting.

1530
01:09:34,560 --> 01:09:35,639
Speaker 1: Well Lane's I did Lane.

1531
01:09:35,720 --> 01:09:38,360
Speaker 6: Her her family is from Sicily and her grandfather great

1532
01:09:38,360 --> 01:09:41,000
Speaker 6: grandfather rights Lane. He was a coal miner in like

1533
01:09:41,080 --> 01:09:43,840
Speaker 6: the late eighteen hundreds, early nineteen hundreds, Like coal miner,

1534
01:09:43,960 --> 01:09:47,320
Speaker 6: Like talk about a crappy job being a coal miner.

1535
01:09:47,240 --> 01:09:48,639
Speaker 3: Like good, good, honest working.

1536
01:09:48,720 --> 01:09:54,320
Speaker 1: Now like hunting, like yeah, yeah, it's like Zoolander the

1537
01:09:54,360 --> 01:09:55,759
Speaker 1: Black Pop exactly.

1538
01:09:56,360 --> 01:09:59,560
Speaker 2: Tyler and Ludlow. I'm formally calling out Deuce because his

1539
01:09:59,640 --> 01:10:02,320
Speaker 2: alma is going to get smoked by my alma mar

1540
01:10:03,080 --> 01:10:06,280
Speaker 2: Northern Illinois. Oh really, to kick you off the college

1541
01:10:06,320 --> 01:10:08,800
Speaker 2: football season, we added a full back in the draft.

1542
01:10:08,880 --> 01:10:11,240
Speaker 2: Post draft, I would love to see the Patriots pick

1543
01:10:11,320 --> 01:10:15,200
Speaker 2: up former n i U full back Brock Lampy or

1544
01:10:15,360 --> 01:10:18,960
Speaker 2: l A m p e. Sounds six fifty two pounds

1545
01:10:18,960 --> 01:10:21,519
Speaker 2: of us as a blocker, but has the ability to

1546
01:10:21,560 --> 01:10:22,919
Speaker 2: catch passes out of the backfield.

1547
01:10:23,080 --> 01:10:24,519
Speaker 1: We need to pick him, so I can say that

1548
01:10:24,680 --> 01:10:26,840
Speaker 1: we should ask Hunter the full back coming back.

1549
01:10:26,920 --> 01:10:27,639
Speaker 3: But that's true.

1550
01:10:27,640 --> 01:10:28,920
Speaker 1: I guess they probably would have had the full back

1551
01:10:28,920 --> 01:10:29,200
Speaker 1: by now.

1552
01:10:29,280 --> 01:10:29,880
Speaker 12: Don't you think.

1553
01:10:30,880 --> 01:10:33,040
Speaker 3: Futures kid that they I forget what's the kid's name

1554
01:10:33,640 --> 01:10:35,560
Speaker 3: that they signed to a futures contract. It's kind of

1555
01:10:35,560 --> 01:10:38,080
Speaker 3: a full back to Oh yeah, he's a tight end,

1556
01:10:38,160 --> 01:10:39,519
Speaker 3: I think, but he's kind of a more of a.

1557
01:10:40,840 --> 01:10:41,960
Speaker 2: Can they make him a full back?

1558
01:10:45,080 --> 01:10:49,840
Speaker 10: Talking about Scattaboo, Yeah, uh no, no, no, Skatboo's a

1559
01:10:49,920 --> 01:10:52,200
Speaker 10: running back. He's too small to be a full back.

1560
01:10:52,720 --> 01:10:55,519
Speaker 3: I got a sleeper for that's the guy.

1561
01:10:55,600 --> 01:10:58,920
Speaker 10: That's no, there's only one full back in this draft

1562
01:10:58,960 --> 01:11:00,040
Speaker 10: that the Patriots can get.

1563
01:11:00,960 --> 01:11:04,599
Speaker 3: Pat Conroy. Okay, you don't know who that is? Yeah?

1564
01:11:04,600 --> 01:11:07,320
Speaker 3: I do. That's just frightening.

1565
01:11:07,960 --> 01:11:09,160
Speaker 10: I mean, is he a fullback?

1566
01:11:09,280 --> 01:11:15,760
Speaker 3: DA Day three sleeper? Incredible athlete, spent most of his

1567
01:11:15,840 --> 01:11:17,519
Speaker 3: time as a tight end, but I think he could

1568
01:11:17,600 --> 01:11:18,880
Speaker 3: have like full back traits.

1569
01:11:20,240 --> 01:11:21,200
Speaker 2: What's his measurables?

1570
01:11:21,840 --> 01:11:23,439
Speaker 3: I don't have him in front of me thirty.

1571
01:11:23,560 --> 01:11:24,479
Speaker 2: What does he go to school?

1572
01:11:24,680 --> 01:11:28,280
Speaker 3: You went to reading high old Dominion. He finished his

1573
01:11:28,360 --> 01:11:29,120
Speaker 3: curritle Dominion.

1574
01:11:29,160 --> 01:11:29,320
Speaker 5: Ok.

1575
01:11:29,880 --> 01:11:33,719
Speaker 3: And he was productive, really high end athleticism for the position.

1576
01:11:33,800 --> 01:11:33,920
Speaker 1: Though.

1577
01:11:33,960 --> 01:11:39,360
Speaker 3: Seriously, his his raw scores were among the best that

1578
01:11:39,439 --> 01:11:43,240
Speaker 3: they've had for fullbacks. Now, I know that's a smaller sample.

1579
01:11:43,320 --> 01:11:46,439
Speaker 3: You don't have fifty full backs in every draft class.

1580
01:11:46,760 --> 01:11:49,240
Speaker 3: You know, it's a smaller group. But his were very,

1581
01:11:49,360 --> 01:11:51,559
Speaker 3: very high end over the last twenty five years.

1582
01:11:52,439 --> 01:11:54,919
Speaker 10: This is why I know who he is. Good combine,

1583
01:11:55,000 --> 01:11:58,040
Speaker 10: So you knew that, Yeah, good combine play.

1584
01:11:57,880 --> 01:11:58,439
Speaker 3: With my nephew.

1585
01:11:58,479 --> 01:12:00,720
Speaker 2: Tyler also wants to know if you were to go

1586
01:12:00,840 --> 01:12:04,360
Speaker 2: on Julian Edelman's podcast Games with Names, which game would

1587
01:12:04,360 --> 01:12:08,040
Speaker 2: you want to discuss Games with Names?

1588
01:12:08,680 --> 01:12:10,600
Speaker 3: Probably twenty eight to three for me, I do you

1589
01:12:10,640 --> 01:12:12,479
Speaker 3: know there is a sauce spot for me for jewels

1590
01:12:12,640 --> 01:12:16,360
Speaker 3: for stealing my thing that whole games are names things?

1591
01:12:16,479 --> 01:12:18,120
Speaker 3: Fred and I have been talking about that for years.

1592
01:12:18,120 --> 01:12:19,000
Speaker 3: They stole it.

1593
01:12:19,000 --> 01:12:20,960
Speaker 2: From Harper's Harper's mouth.

1594
01:12:21,160 --> 01:12:25,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, the bad Ones, Yeah, maybe Dot Jackson.

1595
01:12:25,720 --> 01:12:28,160
Speaker 6: The comeback against the Broncos in twenty thirteen, that's a

1596
01:12:28,160 --> 01:12:29,599
Speaker 6: good one was kind of a coming up party.

1597
01:12:29,680 --> 01:12:30,560
Speaker 3: What the name of that one is?

1598
01:12:30,640 --> 01:12:30,800
Speaker 1: Though?

1599
01:12:30,880 --> 01:12:33,160
Speaker 3: I was here for Peter. That's Peter, that Peter Peter

1600
01:12:33,479 --> 01:12:33,800
Speaker 3: come back.

1601
01:12:33,960 --> 01:12:36,280
Speaker 10: I was here Peter. I was here for that one. Yeah,

1602
01:12:36,640 --> 01:12:37,720
Speaker 10: I don't remember much of it.

1603
01:12:38,320 --> 01:12:40,760
Speaker 6: Oh that was back before you were covering the team

1604
01:12:40,840 --> 01:12:43,160
Speaker 6: and just oh yeah, weren't those the days. Imagine watching

1605
01:12:43,160 --> 01:12:43,920
Speaker 6: a football game like that.

1606
01:12:44,040 --> 01:12:47,160
Speaker 10: Now, we had great seats there. My my uncle took

1607
01:12:47,200 --> 01:12:51,200
Speaker 10: me for my twenty first birthday. We had his company seats,

1608
01:12:51,280 --> 01:12:53,000
Speaker 10: like fifty yard line, ten rows up.

1609
01:12:53,080 --> 01:12:54,000
Speaker 1: It was cool that night.

1610
01:12:54,120 --> 01:12:56,639
Speaker 10: It was freezing. Like half our group left at half

1611
01:12:56,680 --> 01:12:58,400
Speaker 10: time because they were down twenty four to three and

1612
01:12:58,439 --> 01:12:59,200
Speaker 10: they're yelling at them.

1613
01:12:59,400 --> 01:13:01,160
Speaker 3: I did not think they were going to come back

1614
01:13:01,200 --> 01:13:05,240
Speaker 3: and win that game. There's like a lot of games.

1615
01:13:05,720 --> 01:13:09,519
Speaker 3: Do you remember there was a home game Colin Kaepernick,

1616
01:13:09,560 --> 01:13:13,800
Speaker 3: San Francisco era. Yeah, I want to say, I want

1617
01:13:13,840 --> 01:13:16,360
Speaker 3: to say they already won the three. I never thought

1618
01:13:16,439 --> 01:13:19,120
Speaker 3: that game was over. I thought there was I thought

1619
01:13:19,160 --> 01:13:20,680
Speaker 3: there was a chance the Patriots had come back, and

1620
01:13:20,760 --> 01:13:22,639
Speaker 3: ultimately they did. I think they came back and tied

1621
01:13:22,680 --> 01:13:26,160
Speaker 3: it and then San Francisco went right down to a touchdown. Yeah,

1622
01:13:27,800 --> 01:13:30,200
Speaker 3: that game against Denver that night, the Patriots were so

1623
01:13:30,360 --> 01:13:33,640
Speaker 3: sloppy in addition to Denver being so good. I just

1624
01:13:34,080 --> 01:13:36,240
Speaker 3: I didn't think there was any chance they were going

1625
01:13:36,280 --> 01:13:36,680
Speaker 3: to come back.

1626
01:13:36,760 --> 01:13:40,840
Speaker 2: I I have so little recollection of that Denver game.

1627
01:13:40,960 --> 01:13:43,040
Speaker 10: Sam, It's so weird.

1628
01:13:43,840 --> 01:13:45,760
Speaker 2: No, it's so weird. I don't know what was going

1629
01:13:45,840 --> 01:13:49,559
Speaker 2: on that game, but I was definitely just like and uh,

1630
01:13:50,680 --> 01:13:54,080
Speaker 2: I mean, obviously I remember them coming back, but I

1631
01:13:54,479 --> 01:13:56,599
Speaker 2: just like the details of that game.

1632
01:13:56,680 --> 01:13:59,880
Speaker 3: I have very very little ran for over two hundred

1633
01:13:59,920 --> 01:14:09,679
Speaker 3: ye yards, but the Wisconsin the Wisconsin ball ball Monty

1634
01:14:09,720 --> 01:14:13,240
Speaker 3: bal Monty had a huge fumble on a screen that

1635
01:14:13,560 --> 01:14:16,559
Speaker 3: because they they were moving the ball every time they

1636
01:14:16,600 --> 01:14:19,000
Speaker 3: got it like. The Patriots didn't stop them like ever,

1637
01:14:19,640 --> 01:14:22,360
Speaker 3: but they still somehow managed to come back because they

1638
01:14:22,439 --> 01:14:26,439
Speaker 3: kept doing something colossally stupid like that, and all the

1639
01:14:26,520 --> 01:14:28,599
Speaker 3: mistakes the Patriots made in the first half, the Broncos

1640
01:14:28,640 --> 01:14:31,240
Speaker 3: did it in the second half, and then the Patriots.

1641
01:14:31,400 --> 01:14:34,360
Speaker 3: People forget this. The Patriots actually had a seven point

1642
01:14:34,479 --> 01:14:37,200
Speaker 3: lead with Denver having the ball going into the wind

1643
01:14:37,400 --> 01:14:40,000
Speaker 3: at the end, and they in Denver again, like I said,

1644
01:14:40,240 --> 01:14:42,080
Speaker 3: they moved it every time. They went right down the

1645
01:14:42,120 --> 01:14:45,400
Speaker 3: field and scored to tie the game, and then went

1646
01:14:45,560 --> 01:14:48,320
Speaker 3: overtime and they had the ball hit the up back

1647
01:14:48,400 --> 01:14:50,760
Speaker 3: on the punt and Kestowski kicked the field goal.

1648
01:14:50,800 --> 01:14:52,920
Speaker 6: I just remember watching the opening game that season I

1649
01:14:53,000 --> 01:14:55,280
Speaker 6: think was the Broncos, like the NFL kickoff game, and

1650
01:14:55,360 --> 01:14:56,679
Speaker 6: they absolutely blew doors.

1651
01:14:57,600 --> 01:14:58,600
Speaker 1: I think what Welker was.

1652
01:14:58,600 --> 01:15:00,240
Speaker 6: On the team, right, Like Welker had gon on to

1653
01:15:00,360 --> 01:15:03,280
Speaker 6: them at that point twenty thirteen, right like after twenty twelve,

1654
01:15:03,320 --> 01:15:04,840
Speaker 6: and it's just being like, oh my god, this team

1655
01:15:04,880 --> 01:15:05,479
Speaker 6: looks so good.

1656
01:15:05,520 --> 01:15:07,120
Speaker 1: They were They just came out flying.

1657
01:15:07,400 --> 01:15:09,320
Speaker 3: Was that year? Yeah, they beat Baltimore.

1658
01:15:09,520 --> 01:15:13,240
Speaker 10: Sounds right, I Uh. That was the game, the twenty

1659
01:15:13,320 --> 01:15:17,160
Speaker 10: thirteen game that made me your running backs don't matter person,

1660
01:15:17,680 --> 01:15:21,599
Speaker 10: because Denver ran the ball for like three hundred yards

1661
01:15:21,680 --> 01:15:24,880
Speaker 10: in that game. They could not get no Sean moreno

1662
01:15:25,000 --> 01:15:27,760
Speaker 10: on the ground. The box was just wide open.

1663
01:15:27,960 --> 01:15:29,880
Speaker 3: But yeah, they were like they were inviting him to run.

1664
01:15:29,960 --> 01:15:31,839
Speaker 10: They were begging them to run the football.

1665
01:15:31,920 --> 01:15:34,439
Speaker 3: Every time the other team ever had success doing anything,

1666
01:15:34,640 --> 01:15:37,639
Speaker 3: it was automatically perceived that Bill did that on purpose.

1667
01:15:37,880 --> 01:15:40,720
Speaker 3: But on that particular thing, totally, I do believe that

1668
01:15:40,840 --> 01:15:43,280
Speaker 3: that was part of the design. Was we got to

1669
01:15:43,280 --> 01:15:46,240
Speaker 3: give something up. Yeah, we'd rather have him do this

1670
01:15:46,680 --> 01:15:49,080
Speaker 3: six eight yards at a time as opposed to Manning

1671
01:15:49,120 --> 01:15:49,800
Speaker 3: throwing it all over.

1672
01:15:50,320 --> 01:15:52,840
Speaker 10: He literally they were literally playing with a five man box.

1673
01:15:53,560 --> 01:15:56,200
Speaker 10: In the second half, it were two high safeties just

1674
01:15:56,439 --> 01:15:59,040
Speaker 10: begging Denver to hand the ball off. And I remember

1675
01:15:59,160 --> 01:16:02,120
Speaker 10: Peyton just checked out of every pass play because of

1676
01:16:02,240 --> 01:16:05,479
Speaker 10: the box count and like and I just could imagine

1677
01:16:05,520 --> 01:16:08,160
Speaker 10: Bill being like, do it again, check out of it again.

1678
01:16:08,479 --> 01:16:11,040
Speaker 3: But if they don't fumble, oh yeah, I mean they

1679
01:16:11,080 --> 01:16:14,320
Speaker 3: score thirty whatever points. You know, if they don't fumble,

1680
01:16:14,360 --> 01:16:16,920
Speaker 3: they probably win the game. But I do that is

1681
01:16:17,000 --> 01:16:20,160
Speaker 3: one of the rare times that you know, the the

1682
01:16:20,280 --> 01:16:23,880
Speaker 3: Wall defenders. I actually agreed with that night. I do

1683
01:16:24,040 --> 01:16:26,000
Speaker 3: think that that was part of Bill's plan, was we

1684
01:16:26,080 --> 01:16:27,640
Speaker 3: got to we got to give him something, because you

1685
01:16:27,720 --> 01:16:30,360
Speaker 3: can't take everything away. I'd rather have no Chamreno run

1686
01:16:30,360 --> 01:16:32,479
Speaker 3: for two hundred yards than Peyton throw for four hundred.

1687
01:16:33,520 --> 01:16:35,599
Speaker 6: My favorite game was the next year against Denver here

1688
01:16:35,840 --> 01:16:38,479
Speaker 6: with like the Edelman return for touch punt return for

1689
01:16:38,520 --> 01:16:39,000
Speaker 6: a touchdown.

1690
01:16:39,080 --> 01:16:42,000
Speaker 1: Gronkad that that was a got to come. Was one

1691
01:16:42,040 --> 01:16:44,320
Speaker 1: of my best. Yeah, exactly, I got to see my

1692
01:16:44,400 --> 01:16:45,360
Speaker 1: guy my favorite games.

1693
01:16:46,560 --> 01:16:49,360
Speaker 2: Jake writes in Fred it looks as though you're wearing

1694
01:16:49,400 --> 01:16:52,439
Speaker 2: a Turgarian dragon on your T shirt this afternoon. Is

1695
01:16:52,479 --> 01:16:52,880
Speaker 2: this true?

1696
01:16:52,920 --> 01:16:53,120
Speaker 5: It is?

1697
01:16:53,360 --> 01:16:56,120
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I dug deep in the T shirt drawer

1698
01:16:56,240 --> 01:16:56,679
Speaker 2: this morning.

1699
01:16:57,400 --> 01:16:58,960
Speaker 3: Question of T shirts would you say you have?

1700
01:17:00,000 --> 01:17:04,400
Speaker 2: I don't know, probably forty, I'm probably yeah, I'm probably

1701
01:17:04,439 --> 01:17:06,960
Speaker 2: in that neighborhood too, uh. Question A lot of them,

1702
01:17:06,960 --> 01:17:09,800
Speaker 2: though I don't wear anymore, you know, they too many stains. No,

1703
01:17:10,000 --> 01:17:14,040
Speaker 2: it's just like either they don't fit or like, it's

1704
01:17:14,160 --> 01:17:16,680
Speaker 2: just I'm not interested in what they say.

1705
01:17:16,800 --> 01:17:18,559
Speaker 1: You attached to them. You can't get rid of them.

1706
01:17:18,560 --> 01:17:21,080
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, like it's a T shirt and you never know,

1707
01:17:21,479 --> 01:17:23,400
Speaker 2: you know, why not? You know, you don't throw away

1708
01:17:23,439 --> 01:17:27,559
Speaker 2: good clothes. Question for the group, what Game of Thrones

1709
01:17:27,680 --> 01:17:30,839
Speaker 2: character would you have sat on the Iron Throne?

1710
01:17:31,920 --> 01:17:32,760
Speaker 1: John Snow.

1711
01:17:34,160 --> 01:17:38,280
Speaker 2: Right? Yeah, but John snow couldn't you know, because I

1712
01:17:38,320 --> 01:17:39,520
Speaker 2: can't anticipate.

1713
01:17:39,200 --> 01:17:39,960
Speaker 1: Throw those things out.

1714
01:17:40,040 --> 01:17:44,240
Speaker 10: I wish that Game of Thrones ended with the happy

1715
01:17:44,360 --> 01:17:47,880
Speaker 10: ending in Denarius never turned. That that's that would That

1716
01:17:47,920 --> 01:17:52,240
Speaker 10: would be my personal wish because personally spoiler alert if

1717
01:17:52,280 --> 01:17:55,559
Speaker 10: you haven't seen the show, personally you had a crush

1718
01:17:55,640 --> 01:17:58,439
Speaker 10: on her, well obviously, but like second to that, I

1719
01:17:58,640 --> 01:18:01,400
Speaker 10: just think that that he'll turn and was so poorly

1720
01:18:01,560 --> 01:18:04,760
Speaker 10: done that all of a sudden she went from like

1721
01:18:04,960 --> 01:18:08,439
Speaker 10: the savior of the world that they live in to

1722
01:18:09,080 --> 01:18:11,680
Speaker 10: burning an entire city down with a million people just

1723
01:18:12,000 --> 01:18:13,840
Speaker 10: in like two episodes we did that.

1724
01:18:14,120 --> 01:18:14,400
Speaker 4: It was.

1725
01:18:14,560 --> 01:18:17,679
Speaker 2: It did seem rushed, Yeah, it was. I could unders

1726
01:18:17,880 --> 01:18:20,200
Speaker 2: like maybe if they had developed that a little bit more.

1727
01:18:20,240 --> 01:18:22,960
Speaker 2: But I can understand why she turned after all she

1728
01:18:23,120 --> 01:18:26,479
Speaker 2: had gone through and no one's gonna question me anymore.

1729
01:18:26,880 --> 01:18:27,519
Speaker 2: But that's it.

1730
01:18:27,760 --> 01:18:31,240
Speaker 10: Yeah, but there's a difference between that and burning an

1731
01:18:31,400 --> 01:18:35,439
Speaker 10: entire city to the ground with your dragon. There's kind

1732
01:18:35,479 --> 01:18:36,160
Speaker 10: of a middle ground.

1733
01:18:36,640 --> 01:18:37,000
Speaker 18: I said.

1734
01:18:37,000 --> 01:18:38,840
Speaker 15: I think the issue is how quick it was. Weren't

1735
01:18:38,880 --> 01:18:41,600
Speaker 15: the series or showrunners like rushing to get Game of

1736
01:18:41,680 --> 01:18:43,800
Speaker 15: Thrones don to go work on Star Wars and then

1737
01:18:43,800 --> 01:18:45,240
Speaker 15: they got fired from Star Wars.

1738
01:18:45,680 --> 01:18:49,639
Speaker 10: And they also ran they ran out of source material,

1739
01:18:49,680 --> 01:18:50,840
Speaker 10: which was a big part of issue.

1740
01:18:51,040 --> 01:18:54,040
Speaker 15: Yeah, Georgia Mark got lazy, He got too rich and lazy.

1741
01:18:56,439 --> 01:18:58,080
Speaker 1: This is one of my hot takes. Though I thought

1742
01:18:58,120 --> 01:19:01,320
Speaker 1: the Game of It was fine, It was fine, fine.

1743
01:19:02,120 --> 01:19:04,720
Speaker 10: I've never been worrying an end of a show ever

1744
01:19:05,200 --> 01:19:05,800
Speaker 10: in my life.

1745
01:19:06,560 --> 01:19:08,040
Speaker 3: He's he's a TV nowhere.

1746
01:19:08,080 --> 01:19:12,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, but like, but when you think of some of

1747
01:19:12,280 --> 01:19:15,240
Speaker 2: the most memorable TV moments, Game of Thrones has a

1748
01:19:15,320 --> 01:19:16,840
Speaker 2: lot of them, Yeah, sure, for.

1749
01:19:16,960 --> 01:19:19,600
Speaker 10: How good the show was for the entire duration of

1750
01:19:19,640 --> 01:19:23,000
Speaker 10: the show to end it so poorly, was one of them. Like,

1751
01:19:23,120 --> 01:19:26,160
Speaker 10: I've never been as angry about TV as I was at.

1752
01:19:26,080 --> 01:19:27,760
Speaker 6: That, but just you feel like I just like, to me,

1753
01:19:27,840 --> 01:19:30,200
Speaker 6: it was like there were so many possibilities in speculation,

1754
01:19:30,320 --> 01:19:31,800
Speaker 6: what could it be, what could happen, and it was like,

1755
01:19:31,880 --> 01:19:34,280
Speaker 6: ultimately it's got to be something like it's not going

1756
01:19:34,360 --> 01:19:35,760
Speaker 6: to be all that cool, and like, I think the

1757
01:19:35,800 --> 01:19:38,280
Speaker 6: big thing they wanted was to say who John Snow

1758
01:19:38,320 --> 01:19:40,120
Speaker 6: really was and who his parents really were, and that

1759
01:19:40,240 --> 01:19:41,920
Speaker 6: was the big twist that they were hoping landed.

1760
01:19:42,720 --> 01:19:42,880
Speaker 3: You know.

1761
01:19:43,000 --> 01:19:45,200
Speaker 1: The end was a little clunky shirt, but I don't know,

1762
01:19:45,400 --> 01:19:46,640
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, you gotta wrap it

1763
01:19:46,680 --> 01:19:47,280
Speaker 1: all up somehow.

1764
01:19:47,680 --> 01:19:52,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, they've no it rarely has rarely has a series

1765
01:19:52,200 --> 01:19:55,679
Speaker 2: that had that many people watching it ended and everyone

1766
01:19:55,840 --> 01:19:57,120
Speaker 2: was happy how it ended.

1767
01:19:57,040 --> 01:19:59,559
Speaker 3: I will say, and I did not watch Game of Thrones,

1768
01:19:59,560 --> 01:20:03,320
Speaker 3: but I was will say that ending, like iconic series

1769
01:20:03,560 --> 01:20:06,880
Speaker 3: is an incredibly difficult things. And I don't know too

1770
01:20:06,920 --> 01:20:08,960
Speaker 3: many that people said, you know what they got that perfect?

1771
01:20:09,120 --> 01:20:12,879
Speaker 2: There was one. It was it was a one season series.

1772
01:20:12,960 --> 01:20:17,280
Speaker 2: It was Mayor of East Town or terrific, terrific show

1773
01:20:17,400 --> 01:20:19,040
Speaker 2: that might have had the most perfect ending.

1774
01:20:19,280 --> 01:20:20,080
Speaker 3: A terrific show.

1775
01:20:20,320 --> 01:20:22,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, I remember that ending was perfect.

1776
01:20:23,120 --> 01:20:26,000
Speaker 1: That was with what's Kate Winsley smoking faces?

1777
01:20:26,760 --> 01:20:28,519
Speaker 6: She was the sheriff because there's another one that's like

1778
01:20:28,600 --> 01:20:29,760
Speaker 6: mayor of east Ham and then I was like the

1779
01:20:29,840 --> 01:20:34,840
Speaker 6: Mayor of East may I think it's mayor of there's

1780
01:20:34,840 --> 01:20:38,439
Speaker 6: another show that mayor of something that sounds they of

1781
01:20:38,680 --> 01:20:42,040
Speaker 6: East east Wood or East you know.

1782
01:20:43,240 --> 01:20:43,559
Speaker 1: Sorry.

1783
01:20:44,400 --> 01:20:46,880
Speaker 10: The Game of Thrones ending, it was, it was fine.

1784
01:20:47,000 --> 01:20:49,680
Speaker 15: It's I think people were dramatic about how.

1785
01:20:52,560 --> 01:20:53,599
Speaker 2: The years of our lives.

1786
01:20:56,840 --> 01:20:58,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't need it, but I love the show.

1787
01:20:59,120 --> 01:21:00,840
Speaker 10: I feel like that would have different for me if

1788
01:21:00,880 --> 01:21:03,040
Speaker 10: I had watched it when it was happening, like I

1789
01:21:03,160 --> 01:21:05,400
Speaker 10: watched The Sopranos because I'm you know, it was on

1790
01:21:05,479 --> 01:21:07,599
Speaker 10: when I was a kid, so like when I watched

1791
01:21:07,600 --> 01:21:09,640
Speaker 10: it as an adult, I was like, all right, I

1792
01:21:09,720 --> 01:21:12,280
Speaker 10: could I could see this ending, But I'm sure if

1793
01:21:12,320 --> 01:21:14,280
Speaker 10: I invested eight years of my life on it, it

1794
01:21:14,320 --> 01:21:15,240
Speaker 10: would have been that was.

1795
01:21:15,280 --> 01:21:20,840
Speaker 3: Lost, just a regular network show that was absolute horrific,

1796
01:21:22,040 --> 01:21:23,280
Speaker 3: horral loss. Finale.

1797
01:21:23,439 --> 01:21:25,080
Speaker 2: I was I thought you meant the ending was like.

1798
01:21:25,160 --> 01:21:27,519
Speaker 3: I wanted that all of my time. I wanted all

1799
01:21:27,560 --> 01:21:30,360
Speaker 3: of my time back that I invested watching the show.

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01:21:30,439 --> 01:21:33,880
Speaker 3: That's how bad did you get to the end like Purgatory?

1801
01:21:33,960 --> 01:21:34,800
Speaker 1: Did they not have a plan?

1802
01:21:35,439 --> 01:21:38,080
Speaker 3: Like that's that's my guess. I don't know, because I

1803
01:21:38,960 --> 01:21:41,120
Speaker 3: don't I don't have all the inside chat rooms that

1804
01:21:41,280 --> 01:21:41,960
Speaker 3: Alex has.

1805
01:21:43,040 --> 01:21:43,439
Speaker 2: Was going on.

1806
01:21:43,560 --> 01:21:46,080
Speaker 15: I was like, I need to know all the backstories.

1807
01:21:46,160 --> 01:21:47,719
Speaker 15: I like need to be caught up on the news.

1808
01:21:47,760 --> 01:21:49,760
Speaker 15: I want to hear from the directors, and I don't know.

1809
01:21:50,200 --> 01:21:52,360
Speaker 15: I kind of geek out about that stuff a little bit.

1810
01:21:52,439 --> 01:21:54,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I did. I did stay on and I listen,

1811
01:21:54,960 --> 01:21:56,120
Speaker 2: and there was like a point.

1812
01:21:55,880 --> 01:21:56,400
Speaker 1: Where it came.

1813
01:21:56,479 --> 01:21:57,800
Speaker 15: I don't know if it was like maybe the sixth

1814
01:21:57,840 --> 01:22:01,599
Speaker 15: season where you have this wicked long build up throughout

1815
01:22:01,640 --> 01:22:03,880
Speaker 15: the whole show and they create this world and then

1816
01:22:03,880 --> 01:22:06,120
Speaker 15: all of a sudden, like it takes one episode to

1817
01:22:06,200 --> 01:22:09,320
Speaker 15: get all the way beyond like the bridge and fight

1818
01:22:09,400 --> 01:22:12,519
Speaker 15: the White Walkers, and it's like, Okay, this is really rush,

1819
01:22:12,720 --> 01:22:15,680
Speaker 15: Like how did this bird travel all this distance to

1820
01:22:15,760 --> 01:22:17,799
Speaker 15: carry this message in half of an episode?

1821
01:22:17,840 --> 01:22:21,120
Speaker 1: You know, likes.

1822
01:22:22,720 --> 01:22:26,880
Speaker 10: Like two see the journey, Like I understand the point

1823
01:22:26,960 --> 01:22:30,400
Speaker 10: there's actually a really good uh Ringer podcast that's Game

1824
01:22:30,439 --> 01:22:32,880
Speaker 10: of Thrones. Uh, it's kind of a thick it's called

1825
01:22:32,960 --> 01:22:35,519
Speaker 10: Talk to Thrones or something like that, and uh, they

1826
01:22:35,600 --> 01:22:37,720
Speaker 10: do it for House of the Dragon now also, and

1827
01:22:37,880 --> 01:22:41,880
Speaker 10: like those people know more about like that world like

1828
01:22:42,200 --> 01:22:44,200
Speaker 10: it is it's like how much I know about football?

1829
01:22:44,240 --> 01:22:46,080
Speaker 10: I'm like, what the like, what are we doing? Like

1830
01:22:46,160 --> 01:22:48,880
Speaker 10: you're spending all this time like thinking about this and

1831
01:22:49,040 --> 01:22:51,760
Speaker 10: like they know all like the family trees and the

1832
01:22:51,880 --> 01:22:53,200
Speaker 10: rel It's crazy, did you guys?

1833
01:22:53,280 --> 01:22:55,320
Speaker 1: Are you guys doing House? Like I tapped out on that.

1834
01:22:55,400 --> 01:22:57,519
Speaker 1: I kind of watched and I was like, this isn't

1835
01:22:57,520 --> 01:22:58,639
Speaker 1: getting me the same way.

1836
01:22:58,800 --> 01:22:59,720
Speaker 3: I've been watching it.

1837
01:22:59,880 --> 01:23:02,679
Speaker 10: I'm up to date on it. It's it's not Game

1838
01:23:02,720 --> 01:23:03,360
Speaker 10: of Thrones, but.

1839
01:23:03,520 --> 01:23:06,080
Speaker 1: It's still why Like why isn't it what? What? What

1840
01:23:06,200 --> 01:23:06,639
Speaker 1: did it lose?

1841
01:23:06,720 --> 01:23:09,080
Speaker 6: That's what I'm asking myself. What's the loss of appeal

1842
01:23:09,600 --> 01:23:10,519
Speaker 6: for Houses Dragon?

1843
01:23:10,600 --> 01:23:10,640
Speaker 1: That?

1844
01:23:10,800 --> 01:23:13,360
Speaker 6: Like cause I kind of like like the zombie subplot,

1845
01:23:13,439 --> 01:23:16,920
Speaker 6: Like yeah, I was less about the power struggle between

1846
01:23:16,960 --> 01:23:19,439
Speaker 6: all the different factions and I kind of like like

1847
01:23:19,520 --> 01:23:21,560
Speaker 6: this ominous thing that's hanging over was that that you

1848
01:23:21,600 --> 01:23:23,680
Speaker 6: know they're gonna get attacked by the White Walkers, but

1849
01:23:23,800 --> 01:23:25,080
Speaker 6: that's out of it now, and that it's just kind

1850
01:23:25,120 --> 01:23:26,000
Speaker 6: of power struggle, right.

1851
01:23:26,160 --> 01:23:29,599
Speaker 10: Yeah, I would say that the two biggest things are

1852
01:23:29,760 --> 01:23:31,960
Speaker 10: like Game of Thrones did such a great job of

1853
01:23:32,080 --> 01:23:34,840
Speaker 10: laying the foundation for all the characters that you actually

1854
01:23:35,040 --> 01:23:38,240
Speaker 10: like had a connection to all of the main characters,

1855
01:23:38,280 --> 01:23:39,920
Speaker 10: so like at the end of season one, you're like,

1856
01:23:40,040 --> 01:23:40,960
Speaker 10: what just happened?

1857
01:23:41,080 --> 01:23:41,200
Speaker 12: Right?

1858
01:23:41,560 --> 01:23:43,600
Speaker 10: Whereas like I feel like with Houses the Dragon, I

1859
01:23:43,640 --> 01:23:45,840
Speaker 10: don't like feel for the characters as much as I

1860
01:23:45,920 --> 01:23:48,320
Speaker 10: did with Game of Thrones, So maybe that's a part

1861
01:23:48,360 --> 01:23:50,080
Speaker 10: of it. But this last season of the House of

1862
01:23:50,120 --> 01:23:52,439
Speaker 10: the Dragon was pretty good, Like they had some some

1863
01:23:52,600 --> 01:23:54,960
Speaker 10: real kind of like Game of Thrones ask you know,

1864
01:23:55,120 --> 01:23:57,040
Speaker 10: deaths and like shockers and stuff.

1865
01:23:57,160 --> 01:24:00,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was good, El said from Wiscond. Game of

1866
01:24:00,560 --> 01:24:02,840
Speaker 2: Thrones fell off a cliff like two seasons prior when

1867
01:24:02,880 --> 01:24:05,479
Speaker 2: they got past the books. The awfulness of the season

1868
01:24:05,520 --> 01:24:08,280
Speaker 2: eight was of no surprise to me. Didn't even watch it.

1869
01:24:09,560 --> 01:24:10,400
Speaker 3: How do you know it's done?

1870
01:24:10,640 --> 01:24:10,760
Speaker 12: Right?

1871
01:24:11,280 --> 01:24:13,599
Speaker 10: I did? Yeah, the books is the big reason.

1872
01:24:13,760 --> 01:24:14,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've read that.

1873
01:24:15,160 --> 01:24:16,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the big I mean, I read.

1874
01:24:16,360 --> 01:24:18,240
Speaker 6: I read the books like I started watching them, like

1875
01:24:18,240 --> 01:24:20,479
Speaker 6: I got to read these books, but he hasn't put out.

1876
01:24:20,439 --> 01:24:21,800
Speaker 1: More and so you knew he was kind of flying

1877
01:24:22,240 --> 01:24:23,960
Speaker 1: rushed him because he.

1878
01:24:26,600 --> 01:24:28,200
Speaker 3: Wasn't ready to do that's I had heard that.

1879
01:24:28,479 --> 01:24:31,240
Speaker 6: This is like I don't know how what like like

1880
01:24:31,360 --> 01:24:33,400
Speaker 6: maybe one in the two seasons that they had to

1881
01:24:34,040 --> 01:24:35,600
Speaker 6: kind of make up on their own. I'm sure it

1882
01:24:35,720 --> 01:24:40,320
Speaker 6: was guided right, but still it's not his storytelling that

1883
01:24:40,479 --> 01:24:42,360
Speaker 6: was so well laid out in the first season.

1884
01:24:42,479 --> 01:24:44,960
Speaker 2: Bill says the best ending to a series I ever

1885
01:24:45,040 --> 01:24:47,479
Speaker 2: saw was the finale of Will and Grace, and then

1886
01:24:47,520 --> 01:24:50,519
Speaker 2: they ruined it by rebooting, So I don't.

1887
01:24:51,160 --> 01:24:55,439
Speaker 3: Recall that finale, but I kind of yeah, I didn't

1888
01:24:55,439 --> 01:24:58,880
Speaker 3: really watch that show as regularly, but because you know me, Fred, yeah,

1889
01:24:59,000 --> 01:24:59,920
Speaker 3: I'll give us much.

1890
01:25:00,479 --> 01:25:01,400
Speaker 2: It's hard to end.

1891
01:25:02,400 --> 01:25:04,679
Speaker 3: You know. One was funny, yeah, funny show.

1892
01:25:05,120 --> 01:25:08,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, good writing, good writers, very good writing. All Right,

1893
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna take a break. I smell my food and

1894
01:25:11,840 --> 01:25:14,400
Speaker 2: if I'm distracted like that, I just can't continue. So

1895
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Speaker 2: we will be right back after this.

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Speaker 20: When Alex Francisco, Chris Cassidy and Evan Lazar, We're gonna

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Speaker 20: read some leftover emails for you guys, because we know

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Speaker 20: the listeners love to hear the emails read so right.

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Speaker 20: For number one, we got Jarrett from Kingston. It started

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Speaker 20: with Zappi, then Malie Cunningham and now Joe Milton. Some fans,

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01:27:23,160 --> 01:27:25,720
Speaker 20: like London from last show really need to simmer down

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Speaker 20: with these third string quarterbacks calling them starters again. It

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Speaker 20: I hope the Patriots pick up Taylor el Jerezma so

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Speaker 20: all these fans can hop on his bandwagon too. A

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Speaker 20: why do fans even get to vote instead of the

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Speaker 10: That's a good point, yeah, gregor a fame obviously, just

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Speaker 10: I think the Baseball Hall of Fame is like media voters, right,

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Speaker 10: But I get where that's coming from. Al Gertzon was

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01:28:11,200 --> 01:28:15,240
Speaker 10: an interesting prospect. He's a Canadian, as the emailer alluded to,

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01:28:15,439 --> 01:28:17,800
Speaker 10: and he was at the Senior Bowl but played a

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Speaker 10: lot of Canadian football and was a little bit older.

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Speaker 10: But like, you know, he's one of those guys that

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Speaker 10: is kind of fun, you know, like he didn't play

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Speaker 10: a ton of college football and that sort of thing,

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Speaker 10: so kind of under the radar prospect as a late

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Speaker 10: round pick. And look at the backup quarterback's been the

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Speaker 10: most popular guy in town since the beginning of times.

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Speaker 10: Like he's always the most popular guy in town, you know,

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Speaker 10: going back to like Michael Bishop with the Patriots, you know,

1961
01:28:42,600 --> 01:28:45,000
Speaker 10: is another guy with a big arm that everybody was

1962
01:28:45,080 --> 01:28:46,880
Speaker 10: infatuated with So this is nothing new.

1963
01:28:47,160 --> 01:28:49,840
Speaker 20: Yeah, so on the Hall of Fame thing, good stuff

1964
01:28:49,840 --> 01:28:51,920
Speaker 20: on the quarterback there, But Hall of Fame, it's just

1965
01:28:52,000 --> 01:28:55,840
Speaker 20: tough because twenty years of excellence means twenty years of

1966
01:28:55,960 --> 01:28:59,080
Speaker 20: great players. Other players are going to get started to

1967
01:28:59,080 --> 01:29:01,400
Speaker 20: get passed over. You have the Edelman's and the Gronks

1968
01:29:01,400 --> 01:29:05,160
Speaker 20: who were NFL superstars coming in, So it is tough,

1969
01:29:05,320 --> 01:29:06,240
Speaker 20: and I think they might.

1970
01:29:06,640 --> 01:29:07,400
Speaker 12: I personally think they.

1971
01:29:07,360 --> 01:29:09,240
Speaker 20: Should maybe change how many people get in in the class,

1972
01:29:09,320 --> 01:29:11,000
Speaker 20: just because there's so many big players coming in.

1973
01:29:11,160 --> 01:29:14,479
Speaker 12: But Chris, you disagree, Al you disagree, especially with.

1974
01:29:14,520 --> 01:29:15,479
Speaker 15: The dynasty years.

1975
01:29:15,680 --> 01:29:16,000
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1976
01:29:16,120 --> 01:29:17,800
Speaker 15: It's I think it's gonna You're gonna start to see

1977
01:29:17,960 --> 01:29:20,160
Speaker 15: kind of a popularity contest and it's a little bit

1978
01:29:20,200 --> 01:29:23,200
Speaker 15: of a backlog. But I mean mister Croft did kind

1979
01:29:23,200 --> 01:29:25,760
Speaker 15: of override it and get Bill Parcells into the Hall

1980
01:29:25,760 --> 01:29:28,360
Speaker 15: of Fame, So maybe if that keeps having to happen

1981
01:29:28,479 --> 01:29:31,920
Speaker 15: every year, they changed the process. But I say, leave

1982
01:29:31,960 --> 01:29:32,960
Speaker 15: it up to the experts.

1983
01:29:33,600 --> 01:29:35,320
Speaker 16: Yeah, I agree, you guys kind of hit on everything.

1984
01:29:35,400 --> 01:29:37,720
Speaker 16: I just think it comes down to, like the fan

1985
01:29:37,880 --> 01:29:40,600
Speaker 16: vote is all popular popularity contest. I mean, for my

1986
01:29:40,760 --> 01:29:44,000
Speaker 16: generation at least. All we know growing up at least

1987
01:29:44,040 --> 01:29:44,360
Speaker 16: is winning.

1988
01:29:44,760 --> 01:29:46,040
Speaker 10: So when's your birthday year?

1989
01:29:47,800 --> 01:29:49,400
Speaker 16: Sorry guys, you guys are all what forty?

1990
01:29:51,280 --> 01:29:57,280
Speaker 15: Yeah, it was bringing the nineteen hundreds to that point, all.

1991
01:29:57,160 --> 01:29:59,360
Speaker 16: I know was winning. So all I really, I mean,

1992
01:29:59,800 --> 01:30:01,479
Speaker 16: I a Patriots fan, I know more than just that.

1993
01:30:01,640 --> 01:30:02,519
Speaker 10: But spoiled.

1994
01:30:03,920 --> 01:30:07,759
Speaker 16: My point is, all those guys coming up are all studs,

1995
01:30:08,000 --> 01:30:09,759
Speaker 16: like you could you can make an argument for anyone.

1996
01:30:09,960 --> 01:30:12,679
Speaker 20: I think the first ballot thing kind of matters though, Like, yeah,

1997
01:30:12,800 --> 01:30:14,280
Speaker 20: like Edelman should be first one.

1998
01:30:14,280 --> 01:30:16,160
Speaker 10: Well, that's the tough part about this year, is just

1999
01:30:16,240 --> 01:30:17,639
Speaker 10: what I was gonna add about the Hall of Fame.

2000
01:30:17,800 --> 01:30:19,600
Speaker 10: Like this is a really good litmus test of this

2001
01:30:19,800 --> 01:30:23,559
Speaker 10: because Edelman and Vinitari could potentially go head to head

2002
01:30:23,600 --> 01:30:25,960
Speaker 10: on the Hall of Fame ballot, and they are two

2003
01:30:26,040 --> 01:30:28,640
Speaker 10: of the biggest fan favorites. But Edelman is kind of

2004
01:30:28,680 --> 01:30:31,960
Speaker 10: a different generation of Patriots fans. And so I did

2005
01:30:32,080 --> 01:30:35,200
Speaker 10: all the twenty tens Patriots fans outweigh all the early

2006
01:30:35,400 --> 01:30:40,200
Speaker 10: Dynasty Patriots fans. You know, I'm an order of operations guys,

2007
01:30:40,240 --> 01:30:42,240
Speaker 10: So like I feel like Vinitaria should get in first

2008
01:30:42,320 --> 01:30:44,640
Speaker 10: and then Edelman just because for the years they went in,

2009
01:30:44,800 --> 01:30:47,320
Speaker 10: but then you run into the problem that Gronk is

2010
01:30:47,360 --> 01:30:49,720
Speaker 10: coming up too, so like at some point you're going

2011
01:30:49,800 --> 01:30:51,519
Speaker 10: to get to Gronk and it's like, well, Gronk's going

2012
01:30:51,560 --> 01:30:53,479
Speaker 10: to be a first ballot, I would think, So it

2013
01:30:53,560 --> 01:30:54,280
Speaker 10: gets competentated.

2014
01:30:54,439 --> 01:30:57,599
Speaker 15: You bring up a great point about it's mostly younger

2015
01:30:57,720 --> 01:31:00,560
Speaker 15: fans that are on social media right on Internet that

2016
01:31:00,680 --> 01:31:04,599
Speaker 15: are seeing these contests even kind of arise, as opposed

2017
01:31:04,640 --> 01:31:07,320
Speaker 15: to the people who were there to really appreciate the

2018
01:31:07,439 --> 01:31:08,360
Speaker 15: og dynasty.

2019
01:31:08,479 --> 01:31:08,600
Speaker 1: You know.

2020
01:31:08,840 --> 01:31:11,680
Speaker 20: Yeah, So it's an interesting story and we'll see what

2021
01:31:11,760 --> 01:31:15,160
Speaker 20: happens this year, all right, next Hey, everyone, the more

2022
01:31:15,200 --> 01:31:17,320
Speaker 20: I think about this draft, the more I'm only really

2023
01:31:17,360 --> 01:31:20,439
Speaker 20: interested in Travis Hunter. Having a super versatile players like

2024
01:31:20,520 --> 01:31:22,240
Speaker 20: him and Marcus Jones on the team is just super

2025
01:31:22,280 --> 01:31:24,280
Speaker 20: fun for me. Well, I'm not going to complain about

2026
01:31:24,280 --> 01:31:26,840
Speaker 20: getting Abdua Carter or Will Campbell. There's always going to

2027
01:31:26,880 --> 01:31:27,960
Speaker 20: be some thought of it in the back of my

2028
01:31:28,040 --> 01:31:30,840
Speaker 20: mind that I would have preferred Hunter. I know, we

2029
01:31:30,920 --> 01:31:33,240
Speaker 20: have we picked forth so we don't have a choice

2030
01:31:33,280 --> 01:31:35,360
Speaker 20: in the matter. But the Giants have Molik Neighbors and

2031
01:31:35,400 --> 01:31:38,160
Speaker 20: the Brownsie to replace Watson. Can they just let Hunter

2032
01:31:38,280 --> 01:31:41,200
Speaker 20: slip to us that was from Valerian and Sunny Summerland BC.

2033
01:31:41,720 --> 01:31:44,800
Speaker 10: Well, I'm with you, Valerian. I have Travis Hunter as

2034
01:31:44,800 --> 01:31:47,160
Speaker 10: the number one player on my board mainly because he

2035
01:31:47,200 --> 01:31:50,519
Speaker 10: plays wide receiver and the Patriots, as we talked about

2036
01:31:50,560 --> 01:31:52,920
Speaker 10: it in another show, is Starvin for wide receivers for

2037
01:31:53,000 --> 01:31:56,320
Speaker 10: a while? You have this young thoroughbred quarterback, and it

2038
01:31:56,360 --> 01:31:59,920
Speaker 10: would be really great to have Joe Burrow and Jamar Chase,

2039
01:32:00,200 --> 01:32:01,880
Speaker 10: you know, for the next five to ten years with

2040
01:32:02,040 --> 01:32:04,920
Speaker 10: Drake May and Travis Hunter. So that's the reason why

2041
01:32:04,960 --> 01:32:08,519
Speaker 10: I have him over Carter personally is simply just offense, right,

2042
01:32:08,600 --> 01:32:11,719
Speaker 10: you need offense. He's an offensive player, dynamite offensive player.

2043
01:32:12,000 --> 01:32:12,600
Speaker 10: I would love it.

2044
01:32:12,880 --> 01:32:15,320
Speaker 16: And I feel like they're touched on defense a lot already. Yeah,

2045
01:32:15,320 --> 01:32:17,280
Speaker 16: so you kind of need that offensive weapon. And I mean,

2046
01:32:17,720 --> 01:32:20,000
Speaker 16: I really hope Travis Hunter falls because I think that's

2047
01:32:20,160 --> 01:32:22,040
Speaker 16: a lot of people just go to right.

2048
01:32:22,120 --> 01:32:24,080
Speaker 12: Yeah, I agree, I want Hunter Carter.

2049
01:32:24,160 --> 01:32:26,560
Speaker 20: I'd be okay with Campbell, but it sucks to go

2050
01:32:26,840 --> 01:32:29,439
Speaker 20: four and thirteen and take the least sexy position in

2051
01:32:29,520 --> 01:32:32,160
Speaker 20: the draft, Like I mean, we saw it with Cole Strange,

2052
01:32:32,240 --> 01:32:34,800
Speaker 20: Like you don't see any crazy plays during training camp.

2053
01:32:35,000 --> 01:32:37,760
Speaker 12: So I mean, hunter is a thing, but hunters what

2054
01:32:37,840 --> 01:32:38,160
Speaker 12: you want.

2055
01:32:38,280 --> 01:32:40,559
Speaker 3: But for you know, say, you know, Matia.

2056
01:32:40,640 --> 01:32:43,800
Speaker 10: Sometimes like when you get socks for Christmas, even though

2057
01:32:43,840 --> 01:32:46,400
Speaker 10: it's not the sexy gift, it's not the fun.

2058
01:32:46,280 --> 01:32:49,960
Speaker 3: Gift, it's just the gift that you need dependable. It's dependable, it's.

2059
01:32:49,960 --> 01:32:51,519
Speaker 12: Reliable, a Nike Elite sock.

2060
01:32:52,000 --> 01:32:55,200
Speaker 10: And this this is one of those years where socks

2061
01:32:55,240 --> 01:32:57,320
Speaker 10: for Christmas might be the move for the Patriots.

2062
01:32:57,400 --> 01:32:58,000
Speaker 12: That's fair.

2063
01:32:58,160 --> 01:32:59,840
Speaker 10: You might not have these great plays that we can

2064
01:32:59,880 --> 01:33:02,360
Speaker 10: talk about in training camp, but Drake May's jersey is

2065
01:33:02,400 --> 01:33:05,080
Speaker 10: gonna have no mud on it after a game protection

2066
01:33:05,240 --> 01:33:06,360
Speaker 10: and that's gonna be good too.

2067
01:33:06,600 --> 01:33:10,479
Speaker 20: That wisdom, well, you know, we said, well said, all right,

2068
01:33:11,320 --> 01:33:14,439
Speaker 20: let me get to the next one here. Okay, Comel

2069
01:33:14,560 --> 01:33:17,120
Speaker 20: from Georgia one. What do you guys think about the

2070
01:33:17,200 --> 01:33:19,800
Speaker 20: fans getting mad about this quote from wide receiver coach

2071
01:33:19,880 --> 01:33:22,599
Speaker 20: Todd Downing on being a first time wide receiver coach quote.

2072
01:33:23,120 --> 01:33:25,799
Speaker 20: I may not be the greatest drill footwork footwork specialist

2073
01:33:25,840 --> 01:33:27,840
Speaker 20: out there, but I know football, and I know what

2074
01:33:27,920 --> 01:33:30,040
Speaker 20: it takes to get the receivers open on time. I

2075
01:33:30,160 --> 01:33:33,000
Speaker 20: know what the quarterback's thinking from a coverage standpoint end quote.

2076
01:33:34,280 --> 01:33:37,680
Speaker 16: Uh, I think people are concerned about the footwork thing,

2077
01:33:37,920 --> 01:33:40,519
Speaker 16: but outside of that, I don't see much much worry there.

2078
01:33:41,120 --> 01:33:43,160
Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean he definitely is gonna come at it

2079
01:33:43,240 --> 01:33:45,439
Speaker 10: as more of like a conceptual coach, right, like, this

2080
01:33:45,600 --> 01:33:49,080
Speaker 10: is your job within the route concept and within the play,

2081
01:33:49,240 --> 01:33:52,240
Speaker 10: and the quarterback has this timing and this many you know,

2082
01:33:52,320 --> 01:33:54,240
Speaker 10: steps in his drop, and you're gonna have to be

2083
01:33:54,280 --> 01:33:56,840
Speaker 10: able to time up with the quarterback to get open

2084
01:33:56,880 --> 01:33:59,360
Speaker 10: and get the football. So there's a lot of value

2085
01:33:59,439 --> 01:34:00,880
Speaker 10: in that sort of thing. I think a lot of

2086
01:34:00,960 --> 01:34:05,000
Speaker 10: young receivers, especially struggle with the timing aspect. We hear

2087
01:34:05,040 --> 01:34:07,639
Speaker 10: a lot about TikTok routes, Right, We're just gonna run

2088
01:34:07,680 --> 01:34:09,640
Speaker 10: these routes with like seven breaks in them just to

2089
01:34:09,720 --> 01:34:12,400
Speaker 10: create all this separation. We're gonna post it on TikTok. Well,

2090
01:34:12,400 --> 01:34:15,599
Speaker 10: in the NFL, you don't have seven seconds to get open, right.

2091
01:34:15,680 --> 01:34:17,599
Speaker 10: You have to get open off the line and get

2092
01:34:17,640 --> 01:34:21,280
Speaker 10: open quickly. I am a little bit surprised that they

2093
01:34:21,320 --> 01:34:24,880
Speaker 10: didn't add a assistant wide receivers coach that has a

2094
01:34:24,960 --> 01:34:27,840
Speaker 10: wide receiver background, though, like maybe you know, like a

2095
01:34:27,920 --> 01:34:30,280
Speaker 10: Wes Welker like a former player that you know, played

2096
01:34:30,320 --> 01:34:32,960
Speaker 10: the position just to come in and coach up some

2097
01:34:33,080 --> 01:34:35,160
Speaker 10: of that technique stuff. But I think there's a lot

2098
01:34:35,200 --> 01:34:38,760
Speaker 10: of value in the conceptualization of the position as well.

2099
01:34:39,040 --> 01:34:41,599
Speaker 20: No, totally, and that a word I just made that works. Yeah,

2100
01:34:41,600 --> 01:34:44,040
Speaker 20: all right, Part two of Kamel's question. I saw that

2101
01:34:44,120 --> 01:34:47,400
Speaker 20: Christian Gonzalz is eligible for an extension next offseason. If

2102
01:34:47,439 --> 01:34:49,160
Speaker 20: he has another great year and gets All Pro again,

2103
01:34:49,240 --> 01:34:51,320
Speaker 20: what do you think is extension would be. So that

2104
01:34:51,439 --> 01:34:54,479
Speaker 20: being said, Jace Horn got what one hundred years or sorry,

2105
01:34:54,479 --> 01:34:55,960
Speaker 20: one hundred million with seventy.

2106
01:34:55,720 --> 01:34:57,320
Speaker 1: Million four years?

2107
01:34:57,800 --> 01:35:00,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

2108
01:35:00,040 --> 01:35:03,200
Speaker 12: Eventually get there one hundred years.

2109
01:35:03,320 --> 01:35:07,000
Speaker 10: I'm trying to go serious and you're joking about. I mean,

2110
01:35:07,080 --> 01:35:10,560
Speaker 10: that's that's pretty part for the course. So yes, what

2111
01:35:10,760 --> 01:35:14,200
Speaker 10: so Horn Stingley, I think just got a new deal, right,

2112
01:35:14,360 --> 01:35:17,320
Speaker 10: Denzel Ward got a new deal recently. Top of the

2113
01:35:17,439 --> 01:35:20,960
Speaker 10: y receiver or cornerback market. We're talking about close to

2114
01:35:21,000 --> 01:35:23,200
Speaker 10: twenty five million dollars a year at this point, and

2115
01:35:23,240 --> 01:35:25,960
Speaker 10: I think Christian Gonzales more than earned it. If he

2116
01:35:26,040 --> 01:35:28,599
Speaker 10: has another year like last year, we're talking about two

2117
01:35:28,720 --> 01:35:31,360
Speaker 10: back to back All Pro seasons, he's going to be

2118
01:35:31,479 --> 01:35:33,200
Speaker 10: right at the top of the market. So I think

2119
01:35:33,240 --> 01:35:35,599
Speaker 10: you're looking at four years, one hundred million dollars.

2120
01:35:35,880 --> 01:35:37,240
Speaker 20: I also think you don't want to end up like

2121
01:35:37,360 --> 01:35:39,960
Speaker 20: the Bengals, where you wait and then other players get

2122
01:35:40,000 --> 01:35:41,200
Speaker 20: paid and now you're.

2123
01:35:41,040 --> 01:35:41,640
Speaker 12: Paying even more.

2124
01:35:41,840 --> 01:35:42,040
Speaker 1: Point.

2125
01:35:42,400 --> 01:35:44,799
Speaker 12: Yeah, but he's gonna get paid eventually.

2126
01:35:45,120 --> 01:35:47,880
Speaker 16: He needs I think he's Yeah, he's so worth it.

2127
01:35:48,160 --> 01:35:50,040
Speaker 10: Yeah, as long as he stays healthy, he's going to

2128
01:35:50,080 --> 01:35:50,559
Speaker 10: get totally.

2129
01:35:50,600 --> 01:35:51,920
Speaker 16: I don't want to at all.

2130
01:35:52,120 --> 01:35:54,320
Speaker 20: All right, this this is an interesting one and might

2131
01:35:54,400 --> 01:35:56,599
Speaker 20: expose Evan for being unk, but we'll see.

2132
01:35:57,160 --> 01:35:57,280
Speaker 10: Uh.

2133
01:35:58,400 --> 01:36:00,519
Speaker 20: I was a small child when the Carolina Panthers and

2134
01:36:00,600 --> 01:36:03,519
Speaker 20: Jags became became NFL teams. Do you remember how those

2135
01:36:03,600 --> 01:36:05,880
Speaker 20: teams got all their players? Did they get multiple first

2136
01:36:05,920 --> 01:36:07,479
Speaker 20: and second round picks or did they have to fill

2137
01:36:07,520 --> 01:36:10,439
Speaker 20: the roster with mostly free agents? Fred's drafting futures made

2138
01:36:10,439 --> 01:36:12,720
Speaker 20: me think about think of this, David Maine.

2139
01:36:12,960 --> 01:36:15,280
Speaker 10: So the Jaguar, I mean the Jaguars, I wouldn't say

2140
01:36:15,360 --> 01:36:19,120
Speaker 10: really developed into a great team. Carolina Panthers though, like

2141
01:36:19,240 --> 01:36:21,559
Speaker 10: the plant the Panthers, the Patriots played in the Super

2142
01:36:21,600 --> 01:36:24,759
Speaker 10: Bowl that was a mixed bag. Like there were guys

2143
01:36:24,840 --> 01:36:26,840
Speaker 10: from all over the place that they kind of pulled in,

2144
01:36:27,000 --> 01:36:30,640
Speaker 10: you know, Julius Peppers and Steve Smith and Moose Muhammad

2145
01:36:30,720 --> 01:36:33,800
Speaker 10: of course, and you know, really good players. But if

2146
01:36:33,840 --> 01:36:36,080
Speaker 10: I remember correctly, this is probably a better question for

2147
01:36:36,160 --> 01:36:37,800
Speaker 10: Paul to be honest with you, because he's really good

2148
01:36:37,800 --> 01:36:39,920
Speaker 10: at this kind of stuff. But if I remember correctly,

2149
01:36:39,960 --> 01:36:42,040
Speaker 10: they kind of dipped into every avenue.

2150
01:36:42,120 --> 01:36:44,839
Speaker 12: You know, there's expansion draft, right, yeah.

2151
01:36:44,840 --> 01:36:47,680
Speaker 10: Usually you get an expansion Draft and then usually that

2152
01:36:47,840 --> 01:36:50,160
Speaker 10: team gets the first overall pick. I think Houston did

2153
01:36:50,479 --> 01:36:54,240
Speaker 10: they took Mario Williams or David Carr or one of those. Yeah,

2154
01:36:54,280 --> 01:36:58,519
Speaker 10: one of those picks. So yeah, it was. But I

2155
01:36:58,600 --> 01:37:02,400
Speaker 10: remember Carolina and I remember them building a really good

2156
01:37:02,560 --> 01:37:05,479
Speaker 10: roster with John Fox just going about it all different

2157
01:37:05,520 --> 01:37:10,120
Speaker 10: ways and underrated Patriots Super Bowl, like not a one

2158
01:37:10,240 --> 01:37:12,720
Speaker 10: that's like really stands out to most people, but in

2159
01:37:12,840 --> 01:37:15,200
Speaker 10: terms of that game itself, like that was one of

2160
01:37:15,240 --> 01:37:16,480
Speaker 10: the best games.

2161
01:37:16,320 --> 01:37:18,439
Speaker 12: At That would be a crazy game.

2162
01:37:18,479 --> 01:37:20,840
Speaker 20: Now if it was when Twitter was out stuff like that,

2163
01:37:21,080 --> 01:37:24,360
Speaker 20: just think I think the reactions would have been crazy. Yeah,

2164
01:37:25,000 --> 01:37:27,439
Speaker 20: all right, last question, Hey, guys, what do you think

2165
01:37:27,479 --> 01:37:29,600
Speaker 20: is Stefan Digs wearing number eight. At least it's not

2166
01:37:29,680 --> 01:37:32,639
Speaker 20: the curse number seventeen. Have a nice day, Steffan from Vienna.

2167
01:37:33,400 --> 01:37:35,759
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Stefan, Stefan on Stefan.

2168
01:37:36,520 --> 01:37:36,880
Speaker 3: There we go.

2169
01:37:37,120 --> 01:37:39,680
Speaker 15: So Dick shared a little bit I don't know when

2170
01:37:39,760 --> 01:37:42,439
Speaker 15: this will air, but to us it's last night about

2171
01:37:42,520 --> 01:37:46,120
Speaker 15: him choosing eight, and he shared a screenshot in particular

2172
01:37:46,320 --> 01:37:49,920
Speaker 15: just about the symbolism of the number eight in the Bible,

2173
01:37:50,280 --> 01:37:55,000
Speaker 15: as well as sharing screenshots of Kobe Bryant's number eight

2174
01:37:55,080 --> 01:37:57,160
Speaker 15: Lakers jersey. So I thought that was pretty cool. I'm

2175
01:37:57,200 --> 01:37:59,719
Speaker 15: hoping to talk about that with him in the near future.

2176
01:38:00,040 --> 01:38:01,840
Speaker 15: We will get him on PEU at some point and

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Speaker 15: we can ask him personally.

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Speaker 16: I also think it's like kind of a new error

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Speaker 16: for him and just trying to take this up forward.

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Speaker 16: And I mean, if you could wear fourteen, yeah, you

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Speaker 16: could wear one again if he wants, but.

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Speaker 12: The Laine fourteen, yeah exactly.

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Speaker 20: I find it interesting because us growing up, receivers were

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Speaker 20: in the eighties, but now if you wear an eighties

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Speaker 20: it's considered like the wash number, which is crazy to me.

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Speaker 20: But I think eight eight's a solid one. You'd probably

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Speaker 20: be like eighty eight that's a big eighty three guy.

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Speaker 10: Eighty eight it's a good receiver.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, eighty eight is a good eighty nine also does Bryant.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, yeah, But having eight thoughts on eight, I don't

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Speaker 12: mind eight. You don't care. You just want him to me,

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Speaker 12: I don't.

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Speaker 10: I just want him to catch passes.

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Speaker 3: But I would say with with digs though.

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Speaker 10: What I like about eight is there's a lot of

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Speaker 10: talk about him potentially taking one, which is currently Jalen

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Speaker 10: Polk's number, and like, technically he's the veteran, Like he

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Speaker 10: probably could pay Jalen Polk or something like that, or

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Speaker 10: you'll give him some sort of thanks buddy for the number.

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Speaker 10: But I like that he didn't want to do that,

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Speaker 10: Like he put it out on social media, I remember,

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Speaker 10: and kind of took a poll of fans of what

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Speaker 10: number they wanted him to take, and a lot of

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Speaker 10: people said one, and he's like, no, one, One's taken

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Speaker 10: by Polk. It's his number. And I kind of like that.

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Speaker 15: So here's what he shared about the number.

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Speaker 17: Eight.

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Speaker 15: Says the number eight is very significant, such that it

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Speaker 15: is used seventy three times in the Bible. It's the

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Speaker 15: symbol of resurrection and regeneration in the Bible numerology eight

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Speaker 15: means a new beginning and denotes a new order or creation,

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Speaker 15: a man's true born again event where he's resurrected from

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Speaker 15: the debt into internal life.

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Speaker 1: Wow, that's deep, perfect way to join the Patriots.

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Speaker 20: All right, guys, thank you for joining the Patriots. PU extras.

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Speaker 20: Let's get back to Patriots Unfiltered.

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Speaker 2: And now great moments in.

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Speaker 12: History.

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Speaker 2: PS. I was hoping you guys could send me some

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Speaker 2: good luck. I'm a writer in progress and have just

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Speaker 2: sent off a submission that, if accepted, may get me

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Speaker 2: my first novel. Keep your fingers crossed for me. Well,

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Speaker 2: we will absolutely know what you're going through. Claire Claire

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Speaker 2: from Westan. You don't know what she's going through.

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Speaker 1: I do. I'm trying to get a book published. I

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Speaker 1: know what that is.

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Speaker 2: It sounds like she sent it off. It's like this works.

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Speaker 1: No, she said she's sent it off, like she's trying

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Speaker 1: to get it published.

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Speaker 10: Well, unless I'm misunderstanding what she's saying.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Well she's hers is finished, Yes.

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Speaker 10: So's mine.

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Speaker 2: It is why I am trying to get it published.

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Speaker 2: The Africa one. Yes, it's a long time ago.

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Speaker 19: Right, that's another great moment from.

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Speaker 2: There was more to that, but anyway, it all comes

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Speaker 2: full circle though Africa trip I love, No one has

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Speaker 2: it doesn't exist. All right, we're back here in pages

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Speaker 2: on Field Today. Five to five past five hundred is

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Speaker 2: the Hotline podcast at Patriots dot com is the email address. Also,

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Speaker 2: if you want to sign up for the newsletter, you

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Speaker 2: can do that by going to Patriots dot com slash

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Speaker 2: pu newsletter and any teasers.

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Speaker 15: Big cut off the questions because I was getting inundated with.

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Speaker 3: Okay, you can't you can't handle answer all of them.

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Speaker 1: I could, but.

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Speaker 3: Put two or three in the in the newsletter and

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Speaker 3: then just put a link for more.

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Speaker 1: I want to overwhelm them.

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Speaker 9: Uh.

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Speaker 2: Talking football, we also talking about great and great endings

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Speaker 2: and TV history. Spiing Fresno writes in This is Football,

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Speaker 2: have a big old finger wag for Paulli Paul Parillo.

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01:41:45,840 --> 01:41:48,320
Speaker 2: Toward the end of last Thursday show, an emailer asked

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Speaker 2: if your takes on winning the last game of the

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Speaker 2: season of change in light of our current sense of

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Speaker 2: the fourth picks value. Mike said he'll wait until after

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01:41:56,280 --> 01:41:58,920
Speaker 2: the draft. If we get Hunter. Mike's fine with that.

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01:41:59,040 --> 01:42:01,960
Speaker 2: Last win, but if not, then not. Paul loved this

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01:42:02,160 --> 01:42:06,240
Speaker 2: praising Mike's Paul likes stubbornness in waiting and holding out

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01:42:06,360 --> 01:42:11,360
Speaker 2: like that, but that is total hypocrisy. Paul routinely excoriates

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Speaker 2: people for waiting to develop their takes in hindsight, and

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Speaker 2: now he's praising Mike for angling to do so forsooth.

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Speaker 3: This is not the PP way.

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Speaker 2: Stake your claims now infirmly, as if this were the

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Speaker 2: Oklahoma Land run.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I'll go touch grass. Yeah, I I from myself,

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Speaker 3: I admitted I think Heavan was Evan was on an

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Speaker 3: island to tell he didn't care. And it turns out

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Speaker 3: that you have the fourth pick and a two player draft.

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Speaker 10: I tried to tell you, guys there was a two

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Speaker 10: player draft, and you just you didn't want to believe me.

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Speaker 1: I don't believe anything you said.

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Speaker 10: But I actually respect a lot about dude saying he's

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01:42:49,360 --> 01:42:50,400
Speaker 10: not wrong until he's wrong.

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Speaker 3: That's what That's what I said.

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Speaker 1: That's it. That's like, hey, we didn't we won a

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Speaker 1: game and we still got the guy we wanted a

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Speaker 1: fourth Overall, it.

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Speaker 3: Could still be the fourth pick and the two player

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Speaker 3: draft if you get one of those two players, You're all.

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Speaker 2: Wrong, Ben and Brooklyn says Vintari has to be the

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Speaker 2: pick for the Patriots Hall of Fame. I wanted to

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Speaker 2: pick up on that call from Dave earlier this week,

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Speaker 2: though it was a great call. Just as they've kicked

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Speaker 2: the can down the road at left tackle, I sort

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01:43:20,000 --> 01:43:22,360
Speaker 2: of feel they've done the same thing at wide receiver,

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01:43:22,600 --> 01:43:26,120
Speaker 2: sure slight nuanced, and that they've at least drafted wide

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Speaker 2: receivers and maybe not true left tackles, as Paul would

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Speaker 2: say someone who actually played the position, but in the

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Speaker 2: context of Travis Hunter being available, not taking him would

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Speaker 2: certainly be kicking the wide receiver can down the road

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Speaker 2: in a more valuable can at.

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Speaker 10: That there's no chance that I could be proven wrong

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Speaker 10: if he's not on the board. But I will tell

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Speaker 10: you with as much certainty as I can, if Travis

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Speaker 10: Hunter is on the board at four overall, then he

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Speaker 10: is a Patriot. They are not going to pass on

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Speaker 10: Travis Hunter. I can tell you that with certainty that

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Speaker 10: they would not pass on Travis Hunter or Abdul Carter.

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Speaker 10: I don't think as long as you know, I don't

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Speaker 10: know about all this off field stuff that's been coming up,

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Speaker 10: but the player no.

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Speaker 2: Chance, Jack and and Aba after John Hannah, Logan Mankins

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Speaker 2: is by far the greatest guard in the history of

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Speaker 2: the New England Patriots.

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Speaker 3: Greatest offensive lineman.

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Speaker 2: He deserves unequivocally to be in the Patriots Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 2: Why do you appreciate the value of the guard position

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Speaker 2: as if a team could be successful without a good guard?

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Speaker 2: Good guard play. The Patriots record over the past three

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Speaker 2: seasons is a tribute to what happens when the team

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Speaker 2: doesn't have a competent offensive line. You said something throwaway

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Speaker 2: line right there.

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Speaker 3: I think the second best offensive lineman in team history,

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Speaker 3: that's Bruce Armstrong. Yeah, and that's not just my opinion.

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Speaker 2: Julius Adams, he didn't play offensive I mean Leon Gray.

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Speaker 3: Yes, he's widely considered to be the third best okay

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Speaker 3: or in the in the conversation you were in the meeting,

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Speaker 3: why why are you getting back? You know that you

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Speaker 3: know that there's people in that meeting that talked about this.

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Speaker 3: I know more than we do.

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Speaker 10: I think you can say his name right.

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Speaker 3: Dante Scott and Ernie Adams both feel that that strongly

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Speaker 3: about Logan Mankins.

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Speaker 1: You need I think you need Ernie and uh and

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Speaker 1: Dante to make the pitch.

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Speaker 3: Those are the guys they should be making the case

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Speaker 3: that the pitch for Logan Mankins. Now it was how

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Speaker 3: you say in absentia. He was not there, but he prepared.

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Speaker 3: Not surprisingly, Dante came prepared. He had a full breakout.

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Speaker 2: But the rules are that you can't nominate someone if

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Speaker 2: you're not in the room.

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Speaker 3: So well he did, Hey he did. Did you get

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Speaker 3: the email? But Chris Price nominated him on behalf of Dante,

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Speaker 3: Like the whole thing was right there.

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Speaker 2: I know I saw that. But then Chris Stacey said

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Speaker 2: right after that, you can't nominate somebody if you're not

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Speaker 2: in the room.

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Speaker 3: Okay, well I guess any we read it anyway.

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Speaker 2: But it wasn't considered an official nomination.

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Speaker 3: It was a nomination. Logan Mankins was nominated. He's on

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Speaker 3: the ball.

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Speaker 2: Did you not hear what Stacy said?

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Speaker 3: Is Logan Manks not one of the nominations?

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Speaker 10: Price nominated, but thank you and read this statement.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 10: I'm trying to help, but thank you.

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Speaker 3: He was nominated. Chris Price had to do it for Dante.

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Speaker 2: But like what, the email wouldn't have worked.

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Speaker 3: Someone who had to read the email. No, but he

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Speaker 3: backed it up like if he was the only one

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Speaker 3: in the room that felt said no, okay, So then

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Speaker 3: I didn't hear It's not worth to lie and make

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Speaker 3: it out. Yeah, so it's not what he was nominated.

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Speaker 3: So what are we arguing?

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Speaker 2: I know, but it's not worth this.

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Speaker 3: This isn't even a good one for.

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Speaker 2: He literally said, you have to be in the room

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Speaker 2: to nominate and that's why Chris Price had.

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Speaker 1: To do it.

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Speaker 3: This is beneath it even me and you.

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Speaker 1: Well, like what does Dante say, like what he's not

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Speaker 1: using PFF stats?

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Speaker 3: I mean what like what is his PFF grade ninety?

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Speaker 3: Guy actually knows his toughness is versatility, his accolades all pros.

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Speaker 2: I saw a punch of guy in the nuts and

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Speaker 2: Denver that that got brought.

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Speaker 3: Up in the meeting to I mean good part of

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Speaker 3: the pitch. Someone said, you know what, you know what

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01:47:09,880 --> 01:47:13,320
Speaker 3: a tremendous guy he was off field, you know like

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01:47:15,680 --> 01:47:17,120
Speaker 3: at the time maybe he needs an ec your bond

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01:47:17,160 --> 01:47:20,320
Speaker 3: when it would you know, he can't disagree.

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Speaker 6: Imagine the difference between what Edelman Gronk induction ceremony would

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01:47:24,680 --> 01:47:26,640
Speaker 6: be like him, like Mankins would probably show up in

2376
01:47:26,760 --> 01:47:28,600
Speaker 6: like his dirt covered jeans and have like his.

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Speaker 1: His hatt, like he just got off the tractor, Like

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01:47:31,160 --> 01:47:32,519
Speaker 1: he just rides the tractor up to.

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Speaker 10: This he would like I hope it would be genuine, right,

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01:47:36,760 --> 01:47:39,840
Speaker 10: But I feel like he embodies everything that you want

2381
01:47:39,960 --> 01:47:42,840
Speaker 10: an offensive lineman, like not just his talent, but the

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01:47:43,240 --> 01:47:45,519
Speaker 10: snarl and the toughness and the grit that he had

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01:47:45,600 --> 01:47:49,160
Speaker 10: to I mean, he was just that's that's a that's

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01:47:49,240 --> 01:47:51,160
Speaker 10: exactly what you look about, you know, when you look

2385
01:47:51,200 --> 01:47:55,080
Speaker 10: at prototypes for guards, like Logan Mankins is a prototype.

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Speaker 2: And when he had to fill in a tackle, he

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Speaker 2: was competent and shut down.

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01:47:58,200 --> 01:48:00,320
Speaker 3: Terrell Suggs, Yeah, tie it.

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Speaker 1: Back to Game of Thrones. He's like a bannerman.

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Speaker 6: You would want Logan Mankins like by your side with

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01:48:04,080 --> 01:48:07,360
Speaker 6: his great sword, you know, taking on all comers.

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Speaker 2: With It always comes back to Game of Thrones. Chris

2393
01:48:10,920 --> 01:48:14,000
Speaker 2: with a Tia writes in He says Game of Thrones

2394
01:48:14,080 --> 01:48:17,439
Speaker 2: ending was rushed so disappointing, especially with how good season

2395
01:48:17,560 --> 01:48:21,360
Speaker 2: seven was. Alex is right that fat low George R. R.

2396
01:48:21,479 --> 01:48:24,720
Speaker 2: Martin got rich and became a bigger slob and two

2397
01:48:24,920 --> 01:48:27,760
Speaker 2: best endings in the series, in my opinion, were two

2398
01:48:28,200 --> 01:48:30,320
Speaker 2: six feet under in Sons of Anarchy.

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01:48:30,479 --> 01:48:33,559
Speaker 1: Oh, Sons of Anarchy, I saw all that one. That's

2400
01:48:33,600 --> 01:48:35,640
Speaker 1: a tough show, but I really like that show. I

2401
01:48:35,680 --> 01:48:37,439
Speaker 1: think that show is really well done.

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01:48:37,760 --> 01:48:41,160
Speaker 6: Each season was contained, like you talk about having a plan,

2403
01:48:41,479 --> 01:48:43,920
Speaker 6: like I never thought, like Star Wars no plan, Like

2404
01:48:43,960 --> 01:48:45,240
Speaker 6: they didn't know what they were doing when they set

2405
01:48:45,240 --> 01:48:48,120
Speaker 6: out movie one to movie three. But like Sons of Anarchy,

2406
01:48:48,160 --> 01:48:51,040
Speaker 6: each season you felt like you get to the end,

2407
01:48:51,080 --> 01:48:52,519
Speaker 6: I don't know how this is gonna work out. They're

2408
01:48:52,560 --> 01:48:54,439
Speaker 6: on a pickle now, and then somehow it all comes

2409
01:48:54,520 --> 01:48:56,400
Speaker 6: back together in a way that you didn't really expect,

2410
01:48:56,439 --> 01:48:58,960
Speaker 6: and things that you kind of dismissed are important now

2411
01:48:59,400 --> 01:49:00,719
Speaker 6: they at least a few good seasons.

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01:49:00,760 --> 01:49:01,200
Speaker 1: That and and the.

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01:49:02,680 --> 01:49:05,439
Speaker 10: It's a great show. It's a little out it's a

2414
01:49:05,439 --> 01:49:07,600
Speaker 10: little out there, like there's some things, you know, some

2415
01:49:07,720 --> 01:49:10,880
Speaker 10: tough topics that it that it covers, but it's really good.

2416
01:49:12,720 --> 01:49:16,320
Speaker 2: And Jamaica writes in about bad TV endings, he said,

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01:49:16,360 --> 01:49:21,439
Speaker 2: my contribution is how I met your mother. With what

2418
01:49:21,560 --> 01:49:24,160
Speaker 2: they did with the Mother and Robin correct can't even

2419
01:49:24,200 --> 01:49:27,200
Speaker 2: rewatch it now feels like they knife me and wasted

2420
01:49:27,280 --> 01:49:29,719
Speaker 2: my time with all the character growth, including Barney.

2421
01:49:29,840 --> 01:49:33,000
Speaker 3: No, that's that's thousand percent true. It's hard to even

2422
01:49:33,040 --> 01:49:35,960
Speaker 3: watch the reruns and enjoy them knowing how it ends. Yeah,

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01:49:36,439 --> 01:49:37,640
Speaker 3: that's how bad the ending was.

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01:49:37,720 --> 01:49:38,320
Speaker 1: What did it end?

2425
01:49:38,520 --> 01:49:38,640
Speaker 12: Well?

2426
01:49:38,680 --> 01:49:39,640
Speaker 1: I didn't even think I watched it.

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01:49:40,640 --> 01:49:41,200
Speaker 3: It wasn't.

2428
01:49:41,920 --> 01:49:42,200
Speaker 1: It wasn't.

2429
01:49:42,560 --> 01:49:43,320
Speaker 3: It wasn't Robin.

2430
01:49:43,680 --> 01:49:45,840
Speaker 2: The wife dies, and the wife just dies and then.

2431
01:49:46,400 --> 01:49:48,960
Speaker 3: He finds his mother, you know, is his wife, and

2432
01:49:49,600 --> 01:49:52,000
Speaker 3: they like kill her off and he ends up with Robin.

2433
01:49:52,520 --> 01:49:54,920
Speaker 1: Like it was just that's not bad. That's not a cop.

2434
01:49:55,680 --> 01:49:57,800
Speaker 2: Kyle writes in did you guys hear about the dire

2435
01:49:57,880 --> 01:50:01,120
Speaker 2: wolves being brought back in the game The Thrones fan here,

2436
01:50:01,439 --> 01:50:04,559
Speaker 2: the biggest complaint is that they named the female wolf Kalisi,

2437
01:50:04,800 --> 01:50:07,679
Speaker 2: after Danny instead of after a character from how Stark

2438
01:50:07,720 --> 01:50:09,679
Speaker 2: whose symbol is a dire wolf, right.

2439
01:50:11,800 --> 01:50:13,719
Speaker 1: Like the ghost.

2440
01:50:14,000 --> 01:50:15,800
Speaker 10: I thought you were talking about the ones in the show,

2441
01:50:15,840 --> 01:50:17,960
Speaker 10: and I was like, which one's name is Khalisi?

2442
01:50:22,400 --> 01:50:24,639
Speaker 2: On one of Paul's shows, they're talking about they brought

2443
01:50:24,720 --> 01:50:27,000
Speaker 2: this dire wolf back from the DNA of a tooth

2444
01:50:27,240 --> 01:50:29,880
Speaker 2: and they're like, I don't like that. You see what

2445
01:50:30,000 --> 01:50:35,080
Speaker 2: happened in Jurassic Park your shows, but.

2446
01:50:37,120 --> 01:50:38,600
Speaker 10: I mean a badasso.

2447
01:50:39,160 --> 01:50:42,280
Speaker 3: I'm an idiot too. What I don't I don't like

2448
01:50:42,360 --> 01:50:43,240
Speaker 3: the whole idea.

2449
01:50:43,040 --> 01:50:48,560
Speaker 2: Of it or bringing back about it. Think about the

2450
01:50:48,640 --> 01:50:50,000
Speaker 2: reason why they died out.

2451
01:50:50,240 --> 01:50:52,320
Speaker 3: And I think about like you screw around too much

2452
01:50:52,360 --> 01:50:54,519
Speaker 3: and all of a sudden, you're bringing t rexes back,

2453
01:50:54,720 --> 01:50:57,479
Speaker 3: like like, I don't know, have you seen the movie?

2454
01:50:57,880 --> 01:50:59,120
Speaker 3: Have you seen Jurassic Park?

2455
01:51:00,040 --> 01:51:03,280
Speaker 2: It's because it well for Newman and they're like, whoa,

2456
01:51:03,520 --> 01:51:05,400
Speaker 2: there was a bad guy in Jurassic Park. That's and

2457
01:51:05,439 --> 01:51:07,599
Speaker 2: they're trying to like it wasn't real.

2458
01:51:08,080 --> 01:51:10,600
Speaker 1: I know it was a movie, but like this, I

2459
01:51:10,800 --> 01:51:13,800
Speaker 1: just Jeff Goldblum's whole point. It's like, you know, life

2460
01:51:13,840 --> 01:51:15,760
Speaker 1: finds away, so school.

2461
01:51:16,720 --> 01:51:19,840
Speaker 10: They keep on remaking Jurassic Park. Like you would think

2462
01:51:19,880 --> 01:51:21,120
Speaker 10: they would have learned their lessons.

2463
01:51:21,120 --> 01:51:24,559
Speaker 15: They keep making everything. No one has any more original

2464
01:51:24,640 --> 01:51:27,400
Speaker 15: ideas that they want to invest money into. They just

2465
01:51:27,439 --> 01:51:29,200
Speaker 15: want to remake everything we've already had.

2466
01:51:30,520 --> 01:51:32,920
Speaker 2: So yeah, you think about like a thousand years in

2467
01:51:32,960 --> 01:51:35,400
Speaker 2: the future and we keep doing this kind of stuff,

2468
01:51:35,560 --> 01:51:40,640
Speaker 2: and now we're actually creating life on other planets. You know,

2469
01:51:40,800 --> 01:51:44,759
Speaker 2: we're changing atmospheres and we're actually putting life on other planets,

2470
01:51:44,760 --> 01:51:46,640
Speaker 2: and you think, well, maybe that's how we got here.

2471
01:51:47,200 --> 01:51:48,960
Speaker 2: You know, maybe somebody did that.

2472
01:51:49,240 --> 01:51:51,439
Speaker 1: Wow, that's deep philosophical here.

2473
01:51:51,520 --> 01:51:53,599
Speaker 3: I don't think they did. Just watching us from.

2474
01:51:53,880 --> 01:51:56,240
Speaker 2: Everything is just one big circle and it just keeps

2475
01:51:56,280 --> 01:51:57,080
Speaker 2: happening over.

2476
01:51:56,960 --> 01:52:00,639
Speaker 15: And coming back because they see us a little out

2477
01:52:00,640 --> 01:52:03,320
Speaker 15: of hand down here. So all of a sudden, UFOs

2478
01:52:03,360 --> 01:52:09,360
Speaker 15: are real life, get into some quantum physics.

2479
01:52:10,040 --> 01:52:12,720
Speaker 2: David says best ending was New Heart, no doubt about it.

2480
01:52:13,360 --> 01:52:16,160
Speaker 3: I liked that ending. Fred didn't. I thought there was

2481
01:52:16,200 --> 01:52:16,720
Speaker 3: a cop out.

2482
01:52:16,840 --> 01:52:20,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought so, Oh it's all a dream. Yeah,

2483
01:52:20,800 --> 01:52:21,160
Speaker 2: I liked it.

2484
01:52:21,240 --> 01:52:23,120
Speaker 3: I thought it was very clever and very funny.

2485
01:52:23,240 --> 01:52:25,280
Speaker 2: I don't think it was a big hit.

2486
01:52:25,360 --> 01:52:28,040
Speaker 3: I think you're right now because I think a lot

2487
01:52:28,120 --> 01:52:31,160
Speaker 3: of people have gone to that crutch dreams. You know,

2488
01:52:31,600 --> 01:52:33,120
Speaker 3: I know how well we don't. We don't have any

2489
01:52:33,120 --> 01:52:34,760
Speaker 3: idea what we're doing. All it was just a dream.

2490
01:52:35,600 --> 01:52:38,120
Speaker 6: Cheers was a pretty famous one where where Sam saying

2491
01:52:38,160 --> 01:52:39,920
Speaker 6: goodbye to the bar, and I don't know, it was

2492
01:52:40,760 --> 01:52:43,400
Speaker 6: strange to have an emotional connection to a sitcom that

2493
01:52:43,880 --> 01:52:44,519
Speaker 6: it meant a lot.

2494
01:52:44,560 --> 01:52:46,760
Speaker 1: I mean, it was obviously hugely popular show. But then

2495
01:52:46,800 --> 01:52:47,600
Speaker 1: they ended it kind of.

2496
01:52:49,880 --> 01:52:52,560
Speaker 3: Yeah. I thought it wasn't terrible, but I didn't love it.

2497
01:52:52,680 --> 01:52:55,680
Speaker 2: I mean, it was ironic, but it was it was.

2498
01:52:56,240 --> 01:53:00,240
Speaker 3: But you see what happened. They ended up the same thing.

2499
01:53:00,320 --> 01:53:03,280
Speaker 2: I know, they copied the ending and you know, unabashedly.

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01:53:03,520 --> 01:53:05,280
Speaker 3: I don't know if you understood, but you know, like

2501
01:53:05,400 --> 01:53:08,640
Speaker 3: the whole thing with the but that was like one

2502
01:53:08,680 --> 01:53:09,000
Speaker 3: of their.

2503
01:53:08,960 --> 01:53:14,280
Speaker 1: Episode season one stand up, he didn't you get.

2504
01:53:16,720 --> 01:53:21,200
Speaker 3: I don't particularly like Erry. I thought it was like

2505
01:53:21,240 --> 01:53:24,400
Speaker 3: the worst part of the show. Bob Doyle was Bob

2506
01:53:24,439 --> 01:53:29,000
Speaker 3: Doyle gets passionately like set with me. He likes he

2507
01:53:29,200 --> 01:53:31,919
Speaker 3: likes Seinfeld. You do too, I think I love Feld.

2508
01:53:33,320 --> 01:53:36,720
Speaker 2: Real stand up. I saw Seinfeld before the show. I

2509
01:53:36,760 --> 01:53:39,000
Speaker 2: saw him at the Paradise and.

2510
01:53:39,160 --> 01:53:41,760
Speaker 3: It all gets back to what Fred did is as

2511
01:53:41,760 --> 01:53:42,120
Speaker 3: a youth.

2512
01:53:43,800 --> 01:53:47,280
Speaker 2: I remember Seinfeld's appearances on The Johnny Carson Show.

2513
01:53:47,439 --> 01:53:47,680
Speaker 12: I was.

2514
01:53:47,920 --> 01:53:49,719
Speaker 2: I was a big fan before Seinfeld.

2515
01:53:49,840 --> 01:53:52,040
Speaker 3: I loved I loved the show. I still watch a

2516
01:53:52,080 --> 01:53:54,840
Speaker 3: lot of reruns of it. But the ending wasn't great.

2517
01:53:55,400 --> 01:53:57,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I agree, it wasn't that great.

2518
01:53:57,280 --> 01:53:59,839
Speaker 3: It wasn't terrible. I mean, like bringing back the characters.

2519
01:54:00,439 --> 01:54:01,840
Speaker 3: That was kind of funny, I thought.

2520
01:54:01,840 --> 01:54:03,760
Speaker 2: I think off air, we talked about the ending to

2521
01:54:03,920 --> 01:54:05,960
Speaker 2: Breaking Bad, which I thought I thought it was a

2522
01:54:06,000 --> 01:54:08,680
Speaker 2: good ending. A lot of people didn't was as good

2523
01:54:08,720 --> 01:54:10,559
Speaker 2: as it be. I think, yeah, it was a tough

2524
01:54:10,640 --> 01:54:12,599
Speaker 2: show to end like that. A lot of people thought

2525
01:54:12,640 --> 01:54:14,840
Speaker 2: the show should have ended two episodes early.

2526
01:54:15,200 --> 01:54:17,240
Speaker 10: Yeah, you know, I could see that.

2527
01:54:17,800 --> 01:54:20,759
Speaker 15: Yeah, Like we said off there, people get so emotionally

2528
01:54:20,800 --> 01:54:22,800
Speaker 15: invested in these shows. That's like, what is going to

2529
01:54:22,880 --> 01:54:23,400
Speaker 15: make you happy?

2530
01:54:23,439 --> 01:54:23,960
Speaker 1: You know you do?

2531
01:54:24,320 --> 01:54:26,560
Speaker 3: I think that some of that was Seinfeld, like it

2532
01:54:26,720 --> 01:54:28,880
Speaker 3: was such a good show, so popular, how do you

2533
01:54:29,040 --> 01:54:31,120
Speaker 3: wrap it up? And then like Friends was another really

2534
01:54:31,200 --> 01:54:33,920
Speaker 3: popular show, and they went like the cop out like

2535
01:54:34,080 --> 01:54:36,600
Speaker 3: happy ending, and everybody was annoyed with that too, because

2536
01:54:36,680 --> 01:54:39,560
Speaker 3: that wasn't a great ending. It gets hard. It's hard

2537
01:54:39,600 --> 01:54:43,320
Speaker 3: when you have shows like that to strike a perfect balance.

2538
01:54:46,200 --> 01:54:49,320
Speaker 2: So Chad says, it's a lie that the wolves are

2539
01:54:49,400 --> 01:54:53,080
Speaker 2: genetically derived from extinct animals. They are genetically modified to

2540
01:54:53,200 --> 01:54:56,240
Speaker 2: look like the ancestors. Fake news.

2541
01:54:56,880 --> 01:54:59,520
Speaker 10: That's even I feel like that's even scarier. So they're like,

2542
01:54:59,640 --> 01:55:02,320
Speaker 10: they're test tube wolves and we want that.

2543
01:55:04,040 --> 01:55:05,880
Speaker 1: How do you not name Atlas something from the Game

2544
01:55:05,920 --> 01:55:07,600
Speaker 1: of Thrones, the dire Wolves.

2545
01:55:08,760 --> 01:55:12,640
Speaker 10: Well, Atlae we you know big dog, so like Atlas,

2546
01:55:12,840 --> 01:55:16,280
Speaker 10: you know, big strong world. Yeah, that's where he came

2547
01:55:16,360 --> 01:55:19,000
Speaker 10: up with that. Plus we also wanted to go a map.

2548
01:55:19,280 --> 01:55:20,800
Speaker 10: We want to go in alphabetical order.

2549
01:55:21,240 --> 01:55:22,200
Speaker 1: How many dogs you get?

2550
01:55:22,640 --> 01:55:24,400
Speaker 3: There's a couple of calls on the line there, Fred,

2551
01:55:24,440 --> 01:55:25,120
Speaker 3: we're running out.

2552
01:55:25,000 --> 01:55:28,920
Speaker 2: Of Okay, let's let's get to the I'm too busy

2553
01:55:29,000 --> 01:55:36,200
Speaker 2: with the Sorry about that. Derek's in South Carolina. What's up, Derek, Derek,

2554
01:55:36,680 --> 01:55:38,960
Speaker 2: He's not there. He's been hanging on for over an hour.

2555
01:55:39,000 --> 01:55:39,600
Speaker 1: I forget it.

2556
01:55:39,680 --> 01:55:43,880
Speaker 2: Sorry, Let's go to Paul Paul in California.

2557
01:55:44,040 --> 01:55:49,839
Speaker 3: Paul Hey, Hey, yeah, yeah, Fred.

2558
01:55:49,640 --> 01:55:53,640
Speaker 4: Pine caller but long time listener. So I'm I apologie

2559
01:55:53,800 --> 01:55:56,240
Speaker 4: ahead of time if it has been at or talked

2560
01:55:56,240 --> 01:55:59,720
Speaker 4: about before. So I have two questions. So, if you

2561
01:56:00,000 --> 01:56:03,760
Speaker 4: England it's a trade down in this draft, which team

2562
01:56:03,840 --> 01:56:07,680
Speaker 4: would you want them to trade for the big and

2563
01:56:09,040 --> 01:56:12,160
Speaker 4: which player do you think they would pick on that

2564
01:56:13,080 --> 01:56:17,920
Speaker 4: trade down? And the second question is, if this is

2565
01:56:17,960 --> 01:56:23,960
Speaker 4: too early to ask for this coming season, which season

2566
01:56:24,480 --> 01:56:27,760
Speaker 4: record do you want the team to finish in the

2567
01:56:27,880 --> 01:56:32,000
Speaker 4: top ten, top fifteen, or make it to the wild

2568
01:56:32,240 --> 01:56:32,760
Speaker 4: wild card.

2569
01:56:34,120 --> 01:56:34,400
Speaker 1: Thank you.

2570
01:56:35,440 --> 01:56:37,320
Speaker 2: Okay, So the first part, I don't care who they

2571
01:56:37,440 --> 01:56:38,760
Speaker 2: trade with trade down?

2572
01:56:38,920 --> 01:56:41,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, but would you want to trade you know,

2573
01:56:42,280 --> 01:56:42,800
Speaker 3: a long way.

2574
01:56:43,160 --> 01:56:46,080
Speaker 2: I was going to say the higher the better, obviously.

2575
01:56:45,800 --> 01:56:46,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, stay in the top ten.

2576
01:56:47,000 --> 01:56:51,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't care which you know? Oh sorry? And

2577
01:56:51,840 --> 01:56:54,640
Speaker 2: then in terms of who they pick who they get

2578
01:56:55,080 --> 01:56:59,120
Speaker 2: after they trade down, I mean, tell me who's still available.

2579
01:56:59,320 --> 01:57:02,000
Speaker 1: I don't know, uh is uh does?

2580
01:57:03,640 --> 01:57:06,920
Speaker 6: And does the Raiders at six or I know the

2581
01:57:07,000 --> 01:57:09,640
Speaker 6: Saints another team but they want to come up and

2582
01:57:09,880 --> 01:57:11,720
Speaker 6: try to get him. I don't want to move out

2583
01:57:11,760 --> 01:57:13,120
Speaker 6: of the top ten, but I still think you could

2584
01:57:13,160 --> 01:57:14,680
Speaker 6: get a Will Campbell a Membo.

2585
01:57:16,000 --> 01:57:20,320
Speaker 10: Guys, the Saints at nine feel like an interesting spot.

2586
01:57:20,360 --> 01:57:22,080
Speaker 10: I know some of the you know. Nick Underhill does

2587
01:57:22,120 --> 01:57:24,560
Speaker 10: a really good job covering them. Says that at least

2588
01:57:24,640 --> 01:57:27,040
Speaker 10: right now, like the temperature is that they would not

2589
01:57:27,160 --> 01:57:29,960
Speaker 10: make a move up for Sanders if he had to guess,

2590
01:57:30,080 --> 01:57:33,680
Speaker 10: but that that one feels like the most likely you know,

2591
01:57:33,760 --> 01:57:37,360
Speaker 10: team that really needs a quarterback is within shouting distance

2592
01:57:37,440 --> 01:57:40,080
Speaker 10: of getting up, you know, high enough to take take

2593
01:57:40,120 --> 01:57:41,360
Speaker 10: Shador before everybody else.

2594
01:57:41,400 --> 01:57:43,959
Speaker 2: Do you want to stand the second part His second question.

2595
01:57:45,280 --> 01:57:48,320
Speaker 1: How you want the papers to finish wins.

2596
01:57:48,520 --> 01:57:50,720
Speaker 10: I want to win the Super Bowl?

2597
01:57:51,440 --> 01:57:51,600
Speaker 1: You know?

2598
01:57:53,360 --> 01:57:54,400
Speaker 2: Was it a neither or though?

2599
01:57:54,520 --> 01:57:56,920
Speaker 3: Like, yeah, I think that we because he was kind

2600
01:57:56,960 --> 01:57:58,440
Speaker 3: of going in and out, so I'm not sure that

2601
01:57:58,480 --> 01:57:59,960
Speaker 3: maybe we missed some nuance.

2602
01:57:59,680 --> 01:58:03,040
Speaker 2: To Plus, they're like bringing in dirt for the Monster mash.

2603
01:58:03,680 --> 01:58:06,440
Speaker 1: Bring it out. They put the dirt back in dirt,

2604
01:58:06,720 --> 01:58:10,840
Speaker 1: just moving that dirt. Two weeks of like dirt and

2605
01:58:10,960 --> 01:58:11,360
Speaker 1: dirt out.

2606
01:58:13,080 --> 01:58:14,120
Speaker 15: Evans like, are you sick?

2607
01:58:14,200 --> 01:58:18,200
Speaker 2: I'm like, no, I get ahead of it the last week.

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Speaker 1: I should have done that. Are you sick?

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Speaker 2: If I get behind in my alley, I forget it.

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Speaker 2: I'm like uncontrollable, sneezing a little bit of all right,

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Speaker 2: that's going to be it for this edition of Patriots Unfiltered.

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Speaker 2: We what's going on? Well, we'll be continuing to cover

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Speaker 2: all this off season training stuff. Anything going on this

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Speaker 2: weekend of no nothing.

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Speaker 1: Weeks to go.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, well we'll see you next Tuesday. It's Fred.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for tuning into Hey this is Fred.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for tuning into the show.

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Speaker 2: we do here at the Patriots Thanks a Lot.

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Speaker 5: Patriots Catch twenty two will join Evan Lazar and Alex

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Speaker 3: And I'm usually into the numbers.

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Speaker 2: Okay, we do this. I mean to the tangible numbers.

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