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Speaker 1: I have, Well, we've talked about it before.

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Speaker 3: I'm going through the IVF process where my husband and

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Speaker 4: And that's the International Vulture Foundation. Correct, correct, correct, actually

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Speaker 3: Yes, we started this in May and we have gone

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Speaker 1: I was awake. I that to my surprise. I was awake.

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Speaker 3: No, but for any female listening, they'll they'll understand what

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Speaker 2: Probably probably bull riding. You're not doing any of that anymore.

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Speaker 3: Like I said, his name is Jack Joe Michaelangelo Hanson Green.

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Speaker 2: How roughly long have they been doing this for people?

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Speaker 1: I don't really know other companies do that.

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Speaker 4: I'm glad I asked the very first successful IVF birth

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Speaker 2: It's obviously progressed. Yeah, I just wonder how long it's

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Speaker 1: Well.

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Speaker 3: I was blown away by the amount of people that

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so that's why I you know, I've never really

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Speaker 3: So once we're done, the remaining embryos are going to

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Speaker 2: What a beautiful thing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so be afraid there might be more of me

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Speaker 4: Fine, God help us. Final note on my months of

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Speaker 4: it became much much more widespread and efficient, and millions

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Speaker 2: Well we all learned something. I don't want to put

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Speaker 3: You should try it one time, just one time, just

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Speaker 1: Let me can I just one time.

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Speaker 2: It's kind of comfortable, seems like I'd feel very vulnerable

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Speaker 2: exactly to help your empathy there.

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Speaker 1: Tough guy, yeah, murder face, Yeah, there's.

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Speaker 2: No need to go after his murder face. You're gonna

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Speaker 2: make him more murdery. My wife is going to do that.

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Speaker 4: But after hearing this, we're just gonna do a foreign

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Speaker 4: exchange student this summer.

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Speaker 2: Excellent.

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Speaker 1: Well, I guess that's it.

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Speaker 3: Michael.

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Speaker 1: You're just the greatest