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Speaker 1: number seventy six. Welcome to another edition of The Break,
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Speaker 1: the Eagles, Yeah, you're ready? What have they done? Who
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Speaker 1: three or four? It always happens. Yeah, yeah, awesome. Saints
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Speaker 1: I just don't you pull out your fandom Mint Lsu
Speaker 1: with this. Yeah, I mean the NFL's used to be
Speaker 1: a big Kansas Jayhawk basketball. I don't have time for
Speaker 1: that either. I literally I texted Kelsey Charles last night
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Speaker 1: Ku had this huge game again Kentucky last night. Didn't
Speaker 1: even loss my mind until I turned on the TV
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Speaker 1: I don't care. You just Jay Cutler the whole game.
Speaker 1: I'll have time for anything else right now. Man. I
Speaker 1: got I got like somebody was asking me last night,
Speaker 1: and they were like, well, if we need a linebacker
Speaker 1: in the draft, who were some ones that you like?
Speaker 1: I was like, I don't know. Man like LS she
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Speaker 1: that's the point maybe a little early. Oh well, yeah,
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Speaker 1: Let's talk about this Philadelphia Eagles offense. Dave, you have
Speaker 1: a scouting report for us, go football? Yeah, um, this
Speaker 1: is a lot like Chiefs Week. I'll pull out the
Speaker 1: same stat sheet that I did during Chiefs Week and
Speaker 1: just go one one. They're They're good. They're good. They're good.
Speaker 1: Yeah they are. But honestly, you know what, they remind
Speaker 1: me a lot of the Cowboys, which maybe that shouldn't
Speaker 1: surprise us. Maybe it should. I don't know. This is
Speaker 1: the number four total offense in the NFL three hundred
Speaker 1: and seventy seven yards per game, only fourteenth in passing
Speaker 1: at two forty number four and rushing at one thirty
Speaker 1: seven sounds familiar, right, thirty one point four points per game.
Speaker 1: They're number two in the league in scoring, only behind
Speaker 1: the Rams, which let's stop and marvel at that for
Speaker 1: a second. The Rams are leading the league in scoring,
Speaker 1: but no, this really does remind me a lot of
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. Carson Wentz is obviously, it's it's really more
Speaker 1: it's more centered around Carson Wentz than the Cowboys are
Speaker 1: centered around Dak Prescott. I think that's fair to say.
Speaker 1: He's completing sixty one percent of his passes for two
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty one yards a game. He has thrown
Speaker 1: twenty three touchdowns and just five interceptions, which, okay, again,
Speaker 1: they remind me a lot of the Cowboys, but it's
Speaker 1: more about the quarterback. They run the ball really well,
Speaker 1: but they do it with a litany of guys. La
Speaker 1: Garrett Blunt has five hundred and four yards. Wins is
Speaker 1: actually their number two rusher with two hundred and eleven.
Speaker 1: I think with the forty yards that he had against Atlanta,
Speaker 1: Dak maybe passed him or is awfully close. But they're
Speaker 1: very even. Chris Clement has one eighty two, Wendell Smallwood
Speaker 1: has one sixty eight, and then they just added Jagie
Speaker 1: who had seventy seven in his first game as an
Speaker 1: Eagle before the bye. So they're really more committee base.
Speaker 1: They don't have that one running back that does everything
Speaker 1: the way Ezekiel Elliott does. Do you suspect that that
Speaker 1: will change maybe starting with this week, now that they've
Speaker 1: got a Gigi, he's a quality running back. They didn't
Speaker 1: really have a starting caliber, in my opinion, starting caliber
Speaker 1: every down back before that. A Gie is that kind
Speaker 1: of guy, right, take me back to when he was
Speaker 1: coming out of college. Was he projected to be that
Speaker 1: kind of guy. He's definitely is capable of handling that
Speaker 1: kind of workload, like he was that guy for Boise State.
Speaker 1: I think he was that guy in Miami and he's
Speaker 1: capable of being that thirty carries two hundred yards guy.
Speaker 1: The problem is the reason he fell as far as
Speaker 1: he did, had nothing to do with talent. It was
Speaker 1: about injuries. He's got a knee condition that scared a
Speaker 1: lot of teams, including the Cowboys away, and I wonder
Speaker 1: if the Eagles might go easy on him in the
Speaker 1: interest of keeping him fresh. So you just work him
Speaker 1: into the mix more, right, And I mean, you have
Speaker 1: Lea Garrett Blunt who's not He's not that well rounded.
Speaker 1: You know, he's not a home run threat by any stretch.
Speaker 1: But I mean, he's got five hundred yards, like he's
Speaker 1: doing the job for them. He's doing just fine. I
Speaker 1: wonder if maybe a JII will be like a change
Speaker 1: of pace, Like obviously you're gonna give him his touches,
Speaker 1: but he only had eight carries in his first game,
Speaker 1: which I know he just got there, but it was
Speaker 1: within that week, right, you know That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I'd still be surprised if they just suddenly just lean
Speaker 1: on him exclusively, not when they have all these other
Speaker 1: talented guys, like they like Chris Clement a lot. He
Speaker 1: works in the passing game really well. So I think
Speaker 1: it'll still be committee. You just have one more dangerous
Speaker 1: option in that committee. But anyway, but so you know,
Speaker 1: there isn't this star running back that it all centers around.
Speaker 1: It all kind of centers around wins. But for a
Speaker 1: lot of the same reasons that Dak Prescott works here,
Speaker 1: they run a lot of shotgun stuff. They run a
Speaker 1: lot of I don't want to say zone read because
Speaker 1: he doesn't keep the ball that often, but it's that
Speaker 1: you know, read and react to give or pull the
Speaker 1: ball as the quarterback run a lot of plays out
Speaker 1: of the shotgun. And if you remember back from the
Speaker 1: Denver game, which was their last game, you maybe saw
Speaker 1: a quote where Chris Harris said, you know, they run
Speaker 1: a college offense. They just run it really well. And
Speaker 1: I couldn't I take that as a compliment. It's like
Speaker 1: they run this offense really efficiently. A lot of people
Speaker 1: took it as like a dig, like, oh, well, it's
Speaker 1: a gimmick. I don't really think of it as a gimmick.
Speaker 1: They're just running concepts that help their quarterback a lot
Speaker 1: like and they're doing it really well. So like you
Speaker 1: see a lot of the zone read type stuff. You
Speaker 1: see a lot of like it, like RPO's run pass
Speaker 1: options where you know Dak will run this stuff in
Speaker 1: the red zone where you look you see you know,
Speaker 1: look the end either give to the running back. If
Speaker 1: you don't give it to the running back, you have
Speaker 1: one read and it's it's there for you. You know,
Speaker 1: that type of stuff where you're just making it easy
Speaker 1: on him. I don't he's capable of doing it, but
Speaker 1: I don't see him doing a lot of like reading
Speaker 1: both sides of the field. He doesn't usually need to,
Speaker 1: like he's usually got one read that's there if he
Speaker 1: doesn't give it to the running back, and you know,
Speaker 1: and he's capable of progressing if he needs to, but
Speaker 1: I would argue that he doesn't usually need to. Another
Speaker 1: thing that they like to do is use his athleticism
Speaker 1: against the defense. They move the pocket a lot, like
Speaker 1: I mean, where he's running as soon as he's got
Speaker 1: the ball left or right and he's got to read.
Speaker 1: He did that against Denver where he takes it, fakes
Speaker 1: the toss and he's already on the run. Chris Harris
Speaker 1: falls for it and Alshan Jeffrey's a yard behind him
Speaker 1: by the time he lets go of it. So he's
Speaker 1: six five and no offense to Carson Wentz. But like
Speaker 1: I think he's just a dorky looking dude. But he's like,
Speaker 1: don't let him fool you. Like he's very athletic, Like
Speaker 1: he's an athletic quarterback. Like I said, he's got two
Speaker 1: hundred rushing yards and big and strong. Different I mean, like,
Speaker 1: I don't know if there's a quarterback in the league
Speaker 1: outside of Cam Newton who is his big maybe Ben
Speaker 1: Roethlisberger who's this big and hard to take down as
Speaker 1: Carson Wentzes. But like, I mean, he's not Cam Newton,
Speaker 1: nobody is. But he moves more like Cam than Roethlisberger. Like,
Speaker 1: he's not this lumbering guy like he's He's an athlete,
Speaker 1: but a big athlete, I guess is the point, very
Speaker 1: hard to take down more than Cam too. His throwing
Speaker 1: is a lot closer to Roethlisberger than Cam or any other.
Speaker 1: What he's saying, he's a much more accurate past and
Speaker 1: much better arm. Yeah, he's got a big arm. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but he's not. I mean that's Cam's weakness is that
Speaker 1: he is not that accurate all the time. But I'm
Speaker 1: just this guy could run sort of like him, but
Speaker 1: throws a lot better than him. That's scary, I would argue,
Speaker 1: And you know he's looking at me like that. I
Speaker 1: don't know if I agree with all that, but we'll
Speaker 1: get to that on Cam Panthers Week if we ever
Speaker 1: have it. Yeah, Panthers Week next year or playoffs. Okay,
Speaker 1: he's got a big arm and they are definitely capable
Speaker 1: of big plays. I don't know, if you watch the
Speaker 1: Panthers game they played on Thursday night where he just
Speaker 1: cock back, I mean he hit Mack Hollins and stride
Speaker 1: for like sixty eight yards is really impressive throw just
Speaker 1: in terms of his arm strength. But like, I don't
Speaker 1: think of him as like this big playoffense a lot
Speaker 1: like I say about the Cowboys, Like I don't necessarily
Speaker 1: think they're always looking for that. Like you have Alshon,
Speaker 1: Jeffrey and Nelson Aglo are averaging like thirteen fourteen yards
Speaker 1: per catch, but it's a lot of comeback routes. It's
Speaker 1: a lot of tight end action. Zach Ertz as their
Speaker 1: leading receiver. You see him and Brent Selik either moving
Speaker 1: across the field or out in the flat. A lot
Speaker 1: like the big play threat is there, but that's not
Speaker 1: their bread and butter. Like it's really a lot more
Speaker 1: like I said, multiple options, I would are. I would
Speaker 1: guess like the vast majority of the stuff they run
Speaker 1: has a run pass option in it. It's like a
Speaker 1: lot of misdirection, a lot of catch the defense off guard,
Speaker 1: and not necessarily just bombing away. One of the most
Speaker 1: interesting things though about that particularly is their top four
Speaker 1: receivers right now are all averaging above twelve yards per catch. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you guys Arts averaging twelve point three. Jeffrey's averaging fourteen
Speaker 1: point seven yards. Aglare's averaging fourteen point eight yards and
Speaker 1: Tory Smith's averaging fourteen point seven yards. And right now
Speaker 1: they're second in the league in average yards per reception
Speaker 1: at thirteen. So they don't have it may not be
Speaker 1: center around big plays, right, they certainly are getting chunk
Speaker 1: plays regularly. And this offense I would throw in there.
Speaker 1: Mac Hollands, the guy I just mentioned. He's a rookie
Speaker 1: out of North Carolina. He's Ryan Switzer's teammate. I think
Speaker 1: he has less than twenty catches on the year, Like
Speaker 1: he's not he's not even close to their top option.
Speaker 1: But he's averaging nineteen yards per catch. Lay. He scares
Speaker 1: me because I bet you they'll try to get him
Speaker 1: behind this secondary at some point in the game. The
Speaker 1: Cowboys really liked him coming out of the draft. He
Speaker 1: was a special team yeah speak well, yeah, he speak out.
Speaker 1: He's really a special teams guy coming out of college.
Speaker 1: He's gonna help on special teams and help some in
Speaker 1: the receiving game. And it's just funny how they they
Speaker 1: went for Switzer. They're all, you know, gung ho on that,
Speaker 1: and this guy, would you say, doesn't have twenty catches.
Speaker 1: I think it's like sixteen. Oh well, that's fourteen more
Speaker 1: than Switzer. I don't know how many Switzer has one
Speaker 1: or two? Not many? Not many? I mean, and he
Speaker 1: hasn't contributed as much as like Switzer was the guy
Speaker 1: that was supposed to contribute, and Hollands they didn't know
Speaker 1: if it'd have a good role for him. Amazing how
Speaker 1: that works sometimes. Um, a couple of notes. Uh, I
Speaker 1: don't want to pronounce this name, but big big v
Speaker 1: uhatai vitai Uh can you guess that he is of
Speaker 1: Pacific Island descent? Um? Do see somebody that are? They
Speaker 1: call him Big V. So let's oh my god, press
Speaker 1: box since he's gonna get five iterations of his oh yeah,
Speaker 1: our press box. Guys die like he's gonna die. Well,
Speaker 1: he's playing left tackle, so how many topfull? You don't
Speaker 1: have to say? Many times you have to say is yeah?
Speaker 1: You don't have to ever unless he gets hurt, he's
Speaker 1: your he's your left tackle in place of Jason Peters
Speaker 1: who blew out his knee. And they will ever say that. Um,
Speaker 1: but there, I mean, he's any good. How does he play?
Speaker 1: He's only played I think he's played two games since
Speaker 1: since Peters was hurt, and I mean, which is you know,
Speaker 1: people are in my mentions whining about it, like, obviously
Speaker 1: you'd prefer to have Jason Peters, but he hasn't had
Speaker 1: a game like Chaz greenhad against the Falcons, like he's
Speaker 1: he's gotten the job done to this point. I think
Speaker 1: it's probably something you can still try to take advantage of.
Speaker 1: Especially this doesn't seem like something Rod Marinelli would do,
Speaker 1: but Lane Johnson's a pretty damn good right tackle. I
Speaker 1: wonder if they try to put DeMarcus Lawrence on the
Speaker 1: left side or on his right side on the left
Speaker 1: tackle to try to take advantage of that doesn't seem
Speaker 1: like something Rod would do, but I would consider it um.
Speaker 1: And then they got Brandon Brooks from Houston over the offseason,
Speaker 1: and Jason Kelsey's one of the better centers in the league.
Speaker 1: So they're they're offense pretty solid, and they seem to
Speaker 1: be handling not having Peters fairly well. I saw that
Speaker 1: they just I thought, I just saw that a few
Speaker 1: minutes ago that they signed a tackle. They did. They
Speaker 1: signed Will Beatie Yeah, uh, he of New York Giant
Speaker 1: Face Yeah, which I feel like he's been retired for
Speaker 1: more than No, he had. He definitely was retired, but like,
Speaker 1: it's not like he retired this year. Like I think
Speaker 1: he's been out of football for at least a year,
Speaker 1: or he played with jimbo Elliott, I mean at the Jets.
Speaker 1: He was on those Super Bowl teams, I know, at
Speaker 1: least one of them. Um, but I don't I think
Speaker 1: that's a depth thing. I don't think they're looking at
Speaker 1: him to be in the starting lineup, at least not
Speaker 1: right away. So it's interesting, all right, It's a it's
Speaker 1: like did I read Yeah, they're I mean fourth in
Speaker 1: total offense, fourth in rushing offense. That's scary when you
Speaker 1: think that Sean Lee's probably not going to play in
Speaker 1: this game. Yep, that's the most scary part of it. Actually,
Speaker 1: I was going to ask you that question. If you
Speaker 1: look at this offense, what's the most dangerous part of
Speaker 1: the offense? Um, obviously talk about the rushing game, But
Speaker 1: what's the most dangerous thing that the Cowboys will really
Speaker 1: have to look out for with this offense? Well, I'm
Speaker 1: like wins is, he's playing at an MVP level. I
Speaker 1: know Cowboys fans don't want to hear that, but he's
Speaker 1: really having a great season. But if Sean Lee's not
Speaker 1: out there, La Garrett Blunt and Jagie, that scares me
Speaker 1: way more than whatever wins might do. We've seen the
Speaker 1: running back c J. Anderson from the Broncos, We've seen
Speaker 1: Aaron Jones from the Packers, and Todd Gurley had a
Speaker 1: monster game. I mean, it's one thing to have a
Speaker 1: good game, but he had a monster game. Running Backs
Speaker 1: have not been killing them in this last month, but
Speaker 1: Lee was out there. And from the time Lee left
Speaker 1: the Falcons game, It's not like Tevin Coleman took over
Speaker 1: the game, but he had some big runs. But they
Speaker 1: got much better at running the ball when he was
Speaker 1: out And this these guys are better than Tevin Coleman. Right,
Speaker 1: So all right, looks like our first break. When we
Speaker 1: come back, Amber and Nick are going to chime in
Speaker 1: and tell us what they think is the one thing
Speaker 1: that stands out about this offense that they think the
Speaker 1: Cowboys will have to be concerned with. Will do it
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Speaker 1: the show Life from the SWBC Mortgage Studios. We're talking
Speaker 1: about the Philadelphia Eagles, and today we're focusing in on
Speaker 1: the Philadelphia Eagle offense. David given us us the scouting
Speaker 1: report on them. Now will turn to Amber and Nick.
Speaker 1: Amber tell us first, what is your one thing that
Speaker 1: you notice about this offense that stands out to you most? Well,
Speaker 1: there are many things, but one that I would focus
Speaker 1: on would be with their red zone scoring. Their ranked
Speaker 1: number one. Cowboys defense are ranked number twenty four, So
Speaker 1: that's a pretty bad matchup right there. And after watching
Speaker 1: what we saw last weekend, we saw how the Cowboys
Speaker 1: struggle scoring points. Now with Sean Lena being able to play,
Speaker 1: which is what is expected, the Cowboys defense is gonna
Speaker 1: really really need to step up and do whatever they
Speaker 1: can to stop them from scoring some points because if
Speaker 1: this guy, if I mean, the Cowboys won't win this
Speaker 1: game if they score seven points. So that would be
Speaker 1: my biggest concern there. Yeah, I was kind of I'm
Speaker 1: kind of surprised that they're twenty fourth. I thought the
Speaker 1: defense had done better than that in the red zone.
Speaker 1: But guess not, you're thinking of blast I am, I am.
Speaker 1: I'm giving them the benefit of doubt on some things
Speaker 1: that probably shouldn't be These stats though, too, so many
Speaker 1: stats are really specific. I mean that there's like average
Speaker 1: field position on the road, I mean something like that.
Speaker 1: So that could be I don't know, that could be
Speaker 1: a stat of how many points they're scoring in the
Speaker 1: red zone, and not necessarily a touchdown percentage, because I
Speaker 1: think when you when you think about three and out
Speaker 1: and down the red zone, they kick a field goal,
Speaker 1: you think of that as a win. But sometimes that
Speaker 1: could be a stat of of how many what's the
Speaker 1: number for it and us the ranking, what's the actual number?
Speaker 1: Fifty eight point six point six. I think that may
Speaker 1: be the number of time that's that's gotta be a touchdown.
Speaker 1: Gotta be touchdowns, yeah, okay, red zone scoring, so I
Speaker 1: mean I'm assuming it is. Yeah, it's gotta be a touchdown. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we haven't seen that many turnovers in missfield goals to
Speaker 1: go half the time. Yeah, that's surprising. I thought that.
Speaker 1: I thought they were a little better than that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: me too. But well, I mean when I was looking
Speaker 1: through it, I thought it was I was running too
Speaker 1: it a lot sooner and it took me almost to
Speaker 1: the last page. I'm like, oh my god, Okay, yeah
Speaker 1: they're pretty bad. It's good. They were great at forcing
Speaker 1: field goals and uh and um wow, my totally space
Speaker 1: right there. They were good at red zone defense and
Speaker 1: bending but not breaking. Yeah, it really hasn't been the
Speaker 1: case as much this year. And it helps when the
Speaker 1: other thing I was chunk plays they were great at.
Speaker 1: I mean they did they limited plays of you know,
Speaker 1: twenty or more yards and they haven't been that great
Speaker 1: at that this year. Yeah. I think that's all by
Speaker 1: Shaunley if it is, and like that's a you know,
Speaker 1: that's another thing fans have been harping on. Two. I
Speaker 1: really can't I really can't argue with him. Is you know,
Speaker 1: Sean Lee is a great player, but the degree to
Speaker 1: which it goes in the tank when he's not out
Speaker 1: there is it's ridiculous. Frankly. Does it kind of remind
Speaker 1: you of a couple of years ago and really for
Speaker 1: a period of time here where when Romo was in
Speaker 1: the lineup, this team was totally different than when he
Speaker 1: was out of the lineup. Is it that far? Is
Speaker 1: it that much? Do you think that's just kind of
Speaker 1: a narrative gone crazy? It's different for me because I
Speaker 1: mean it's it's a quarterback league. You touch the ball
Speaker 1: on every play like usually you're not going to be
Speaker 1: as good if your quarterback's not in there, unless you
Speaker 1: luck into a Dak Prescott. That's just the nature of it,
Speaker 1: you know. But a line like a defender, I mean,
Speaker 1: how many times does a defender touch the football in
Speaker 1: his career? Probably less than a quarterback does in an
Speaker 1: average game. But um, but I've never seen a drop off,
Speaker 1: right if any player though more than we saw last
Speaker 1: week with Tyron Smith. Well there is that so mean
Speaker 1: that they just couldn't do anything, They couldn't function at all.
Speaker 1: Well that probably you guys are probably seeing the same thing.
Speaker 1: It's really about the difference between the starting guy and
Speaker 1: the backup guy. And then in this league, there aren't
Speaker 1: enough quarterbacks to even go around, let alone getting to
Speaker 1: a second level of quarterbacks where the drop off from
Speaker 1: your starter to your backup is good enough quality for
Speaker 1: you to win. So it's kind of the same thing.
Speaker 1: You look at the left tackle last week. That's about
Speaker 1: the difference between Tyron Smith and Chaz Green. It's pretty big.
Speaker 1: That's we learned. Let even like even last year. You mean,
Speaker 1: and I know what have you done for me lately,
Speaker 1: But like we saw this team function and win without
Speaker 1: Tyron Smith, you know, like they but other than twenty
Speaker 1: fourteen when Rolando McLean was here and playing at a
Speaker 1: pretty good level in the middle, Like they just look
Speaker 1: incompetent when Sean's not out there. I mean, so, do
Speaker 1: you think all purpose yards for ty Gurley one hundred
Speaker 1: and fifty rushing yards or whatever it was from Aaron Jones,
Speaker 1: Like that's just crazy compared to what they're capable of
Speaker 1: doing when he's in there. So when we when we
Speaker 1: and this is going to switch the conversation a little bit,
Speaker 1: but when you say that we saw them play last year,
Speaker 1: okay without Tyren Smith, do you think that maybe the
Speaker 1: difference here is would you put it more on than
Speaker 1: not having a Ron Leri at guard or do you
Speaker 1: put it more on if you had Zeke last last
Speaker 1: week that maybe you would have been better in the
Speaker 1: running game. Oh yeah, you would have been way better
Speaker 1: with Zeke last week. And so it doesn't matter as
Speaker 1: so you're not in a situation where you expose Chaz
Speaker 1: as much. Maybe, but I mean, like it was like
Speaker 1: it was, he was beaten so badly that I have
Speaker 1: a hard time even saying that. You know, like, again,
Speaker 1: we don't need to hash it out all over again.
Speaker 1: But you're just talking about speed rushes where like he
Speaker 1: wasn't doing anything special, you know, like it was ridiculous
Speaker 1: that they didn't run the ball at him. That That's
Speaker 1: what I don't understand. Dwight Freeney was a really good
Speaker 1: rusher back in the day. He couldn't stop the run
Speaker 1: at all because he didn't want to. They just gassed
Speaker 1: him right up the middle there, I mean, right right
Speaker 1: where the space that he would leave. And I just
Speaker 1: don't understand why they didn't attack that more. He's trying
Speaker 1: to get up the field and beats Chaz Green. That
Speaker 1: creates a huge lane, especially when it's this wide nine.
Speaker 1: They I thought they should have exposed that more and
Speaker 1: run right at him. I want to say that happened
Speaker 1: a couple times and their linebacker was a forty five
Speaker 1: bon Jones. Yeah, snuffed it out like pretty quickly on
Speaker 1: both the players that I think. I remember when they
Speaker 1: tried to do that, and so I don't know that
Speaker 1: they didn't do it as much as he just didn't
Speaker 1: work on it. Seems like a lot of the runs
Speaker 1: to the right, right, right right side everything. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't know. I could always be wrong, and hopefully Tyron
Speaker 1: Smith plays in this game. Although I think there's an
Speaker 1: argument to be made, and Nick brought it up, there's
Speaker 1: an argument to be made that just deal with it
Speaker 1: and have Tying back for Thanksgiving and hopefully he really
Speaker 1: feels better as opposed to rushing it. Regardless, let's say
Speaker 1: Tyrn doesn't play in this game, I still, like, I'm
Speaker 1: not saying it will be good, but I just have
Speaker 1: this strange sense that it won't be that awful again.
Speaker 1: I mean, like that is a okay, that is a wreck,
Speaker 1: and I'm not you get worse than that. You can't.
Speaker 1: That's the point. You literally cannot in an NFL game.
Speaker 1: I mean, four guys have ever done that before? You
Speaker 1: actually cannot do worse than that. So disagree. Now you
Speaker 1: think what eight? I mean, like, what do you when
Speaker 1: that guy runs onto the field and he goes like
Speaker 1: that to the to the ambulance that comes over there
Speaker 1: to get your quarterback, who's you have to pick up? Yeah,
Speaker 1: that could get I'm not talking about the results of
Speaker 1: I'm talking about like you literally there's only a handful
Speaker 1: of instances where a tackle performed that badly in the
Speaker 1: history of this league. That's my problem is that the bars.
Speaker 1: You know I always talk about expectations is I don't
Speaker 1: want to be sitting in the press box and filling
Speaker 1: like you like gave about two and a half sacks.
Speaker 1: I mean only our two sacks three sacks? Don't he didn't.
Speaker 1: He didn't really have that bad of a game. It's
Speaker 1: just three. That's where the bar is. I'll gladly take
Speaker 1: two and a half yesterday or Sunday. But that's the problem, Like, well,
Speaker 1: what do you want to do about it? I mean,
Speaker 1: move people, move people around, That's what I would do.
Speaker 1: I would try something else. I just you've already seen it.
Speaker 1: You don't need to see it again and let a
Speaker 1: guy hurt. Honestly, I don't know that I have to
Speaker 1: put your hand on the stove to know it's hot.
Speaker 1: I don't know. But I don't know that I've move
Speaker 1: people around as much as I say, okay, going into
Speaker 1: this game, how do you help him? Because I don't
Speaker 1: think Byron Bell from what we saw, I don't think
Speaker 1: Byron Bell is necessarily an improvement. I think you're probably
Speaker 1: going to get about the same level of play. I
Speaker 1: don't know if in this kind of week I want
Speaker 1: to move my guard over to tackle. I don't know
Speaker 1: if I want to take my right tackle. I think
Speaker 1: it's getting better and playing pretty good right now over
Speaker 1: to left tackle. So I think you're kind of stuck
Speaker 1: with what you have, and if Tyron's not going to play,
Speaker 1: then you go into this game saying, what all the
Speaker 1: ways that we can give him help. Let's line up
Speaker 1: a tight end over there, Let's chip him when we can,
Speaker 1: Like I'm thinking, every down, if I need to, if
Speaker 1: it gets to that point, every down, how can I
Speaker 1: give him help? And I will verify, I mean I will,
Speaker 1: I will do different things to give him help. But
Speaker 1: that I think you're better option than anything else you got.
Speaker 1: Right now, jumbo snap and just put Looney out there
Speaker 1: with gilt right but he is now you're you're tight in.
Speaker 1: I didn't even get to finish that thought, which is okay.
Speaker 1: Nick disagrees with me. That's fine. I at least have
Speaker 1: some type of optimism that it won't be that bad
Speaker 1: for the tackles I have. We have a large sample
Speaker 1: size of proof that suggests that without Sean Lee it
Speaker 1: won't be any better for the defense. I mean that
Speaker 1: that's just the fact that's just a fact. I mean,
Speaker 1: every time he hasn't been out there this year has
Speaker 1: not been because they've had Jalen out there for an
Speaker 1: extended amount of time. And if they were to say,
Speaker 1: sleck we talked about yesterday, either with Durant or with
Speaker 1: marsh Lillard or both use them more and still limit
Speaker 1: the amount of plays that they give to Jalen Smith.
Speaker 1: I guess we'll see, because I can't fathom how they
Speaker 1: could justify doing that to Jalen again having seen what
Speaker 1: we saw in the first half of the season. Like,
Speaker 1: I mean, I know, Justin, Justin Durant has his own
Speaker 1: limit limitations. He's not going to be Patrick Willis out there.
Speaker 1: But you, I mean, you know what's going to happen
Speaker 1: when you put him in that situation. I hope they
Speaker 1: don't do that again. Okay, all right, Nick, what's your
Speaker 1: one thing, one thing you've seen from this offense that
Speaker 1: scares you most? Well? I just I kind of go
Speaker 1: back to what we've seen the last couple of years,
Speaker 1: and I think we saw it in the last game
Speaker 1: of twenty sixteen. Zach Ertz is a problem. Now. He
Speaker 1: did miss last week's game because of an injury, they're
Speaker 1: coming off a bye week. If he plays this game.
Speaker 1: You know, I thought last year Carson Wentz kind of
Speaker 1: used him as his security blanket a little bit as
Speaker 1: he was trying to grow and get better, and those
Speaker 1: guys kind of developed a pretty good core there, similar
Speaker 1: to like I guess, kind of you know, Romo and
Speaker 1: Witten type of thing. So now as they've gotten weapons
Speaker 1: around him, he's even more of a weapon this year.
Speaker 1: And you know, you just see last week. You see
Speaker 1: Austin Hooper making plays there and making some of those
Speaker 1: guys look silly. I just think covering the tight end
Speaker 1: has always been an issue. It's not going to get
Speaker 1: better if Sean Lee's not out there, just because of
Speaker 1: all the over compensation they'll have to do. I think
Speaker 1: that could be a problem all day long. It's just
Speaker 1: trying to how to figure out zach Ertz because he
Speaker 1: just moves the chains. He's like, he's almost like a
Speaker 1: wide receiver playing tight end. It was not to the
Speaker 1: point of who they faced a couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 1: I mean, Kelsey's not like that, but he's pretty close.
Speaker 1: So to me, it's it's discovering the tight end because
Speaker 1: that will just dictate all the other things, and before
Speaker 1: you know what, Nelson Agilar is running fifty yards down
Speaker 1: the field or something like that. So zach Ertz stopping
Speaker 1: him is gonna be a problem. He does lead the
Speaker 1: team in receptions, yards and touchdowns the Eagles. That is wow. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and he missed last week. So so here's the question,
Speaker 1: you guys think this is a tougher matchup. I know
Speaker 1: that their offenses. Their offenses are comparable when you look
Speaker 1: at the rankings, but do you think this is an
Speaker 1: easier or tougher matchup They're trying to match up with
Speaker 1: the kansasy each I think this is a tougher matchup
Speaker 1: because when you hit Alex Smith, he's gonna go down
Speaker 1: pretty much if you hit him, and he's quick and
Speaker 1: he can move around, but you can get him to
Speaker 1: the ground. The problem with wins is that you can
Speaker 1: just jump rodle on his back and hit him in
Speaker 1: the waist and he's still gonna touchdowns and throws him.
Speaker 1: He had one a few weeks ago against the red Skins.
Speaker 1: I believe where his feet were were off the ground.
Speaker 1: You know, he jumped and got hit at the same
Speaker 1: time and threw a perfect pass to a running back.
Speaker 1: I don't remember who caught it, but it was perfect play.
Speaker 1: I was like, I think that was Clement. Actually, yeah,
Speaker 1: we didn't touchdown. Yeah, it was a really great play.
Speaker 1: I was like, this guy, I don't have to deal
Speaker 1: with him for decade. I don't think the Eagles, uh,
Speaker 1: I don't think their skill players scare me as much
Speaker 1: as the Chiefs do. Really, I don't think so. I
Speaker 1: mean they like, I agree with it. There's not a
Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill on this team. And I don't think Urtz
Speaker 1: is on Kelsey's level. He's really good, don't get me wrong,
Speaker 1: but I Kelsey's gronk, like in the in the matchup
Speaker 1: problems he creates for you. So let me throw the
Speaker 1: set you though, you look at the Kancy Chiefs and
Speaker 1: you got three unique talents on their offense, and then
Speaker 1: from there the drop off I think is much more significant. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I would with the Eagles are deep breath right deep? Yeah?
Speaker 1: And then I mean I don't know that. I don't
Speaker 1: know that the combination of Jagien Lagarret Blunt is definitely
Speaker 1: better than Kareem Hunt. They probably are just better in
Speaker 1: savvy and all. But regardless, however, you feel about that
Speaker 1: fact that Sean Lee's not probably not there scares me
Speaker 1: a hell of a lot more because of that. And
Speaker 1: you gotta handle two different types of backs. I think, well,
Speaker 1: really three different types, maybe even four of that stuff,
Speaker 1: like they're gonna they're all gonna get out there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they all do their own and that's we didn't. I
Speaker 1: went I went back and watched their game against the
Speaker 1: Chiefs because it's the only team that beat them. So
Speaker 1: I was like, what did the germanically, what did the
Speaker 1: Chiefs do well? Which, first, they had sproles back then,
Speaker 1: so they're basically trying to compensate for not having that.
Speaker 1: But if you were curious what the Chiefs did, yeah,
Speaker 1: nothing like the Eagles had four hundred and six yards
Speaker 1: of offense in that game. They threw for three thirty
Speaker 1: three and ran for one oh six. The big things
Speaker 1: that I came up with, they scored twenty points. The
Speaker 1: Chiefs sacked them six times. I think that's probably pretty
Speaker 1: big they were. The Eagles were minus two in turnovers
Speaker 1: and they missed a field goal, so they left as
Speaker 1: many as ten points on the field. But that doesn't
Speaker 1: they had to have some really, they must not have
Speaker 1: scored much when they got to the red zone if
Speaker 1: they had four hundred plus yards and only came away
Speaker 1: with twenty points in this the field goal that the
Speaker 1: interception did not come in the red zone though, but
Speaker 1: they missed a field goal towards the end of the
Speaker 1: first half, and then the pick came in the fourth
Speaker 1: quarter and set up a Chief's touchdown. But now they
Speaker 1: just they had forty yards. You would assume they're at
Speaker 1: least in mid twenties, right, I mean they scored a
Speaker 1: typical situation for twenty points. Yeah, I mean no, it's
Speaker 1: it's a wonky stat line when you think about it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: for sure. I mean I went into it thinking like, oh,
Speaker 1: they must have they must have turned the ball over
Speaker 1: five times in this game or something. Not really like,
Speaker 1: I mean, all credit to Kansas City for winning, but
Speaker 1: it looks like the Eagles just kind of shot themselves
Speaker 1: in the photo. I think when you take six sacks,
Speaker 1: you know, Zack to give you a negative seven, negative
Speaker 1: nine out of sporting position. Yeah, so even though you
Speaker 1: got those yards, you have those negatives that that kind
Speaker 1: of affected that as well. There is so there is
Speaker 1: not a team that has like just shut them down,
Speaker 1: you know. I mean, that's their only loss, and they
Speaker 1: still moved pretty effectively. All Right, we're gonna take some questions.
Speaker 1: Give us a call. The numbers two one four eight
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Speaker 1: have a call from Mike in Arizona. Mike, what up? Hey?
Speaker 1: Happy hum day, my peoples. How you doing. I'm good,
Speaker 1: I'm good, you know, licking the wounds. I just kind
Speaker 1: of like a PSA for all of us cowboy fans
Speaker 1: out there that were hanging off the ledge. Listen to
Speaker 1: hanging with the boys. The first hour they knew in
Speaker 1: preachers and it's all about the next week. We got
Speaker 1: coaches in place, we got players in play. See Bobo
Speaker 1: those It's ready to go. It's the Eagles Week is
Speaker 1: gonna be hectic, competitive, and I'm excited. My question to
Speaker 1: you guys, where's Doug Free? Is he like on a
Speaker 1: recliner eating bomb bombs or something? Is he not like
Speaker 1: an option? And Judge Taylor, if you want to be
Speaker 1: repartable damage, this is the irrepartable damage. Poor Dak Prescott.
Speaker 1: I love your show. Thank you guys. Happy holidays because
Speaker 1: they're coming fast. Baby, thanks, brother, appreciate it. That guy
Speaker 1: just lifted my mood. Like it's good. Like yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of money at steak and all sorts
Speaker 1: of other stuff, but like it's just it's just football,
Speaker 1: you know, like it's should be fun, right, Okay, But
Speaker 1: Doug Free, you know, he's got to be sitting back
Speaker 1: thinking if Doug Free is in game shape, I would
Speaker 1: be stunned. No, I'm saying he's got to be sitting
Speaker 1: back thinking, Man, they always appreciate you after. It's like
Speaker 1: he was never like who would have ever been saying
Speaker 1: go find Like people were so happy to let him walk.
Speaker 1: I won't. People were asking that for like five years. Right,
Speaker 1: where's Doug Free? He starts at right tack plays for
Speaker 1: the million, Like right tackle is not this team's problem. No,
Speaker 1: it's not. But you're just looking for tackles a No.
Speaker 1: I know. Well, but I guess my point is, like,
Speaker 1: all right, somebody's still got to play the left side.
Speaker 1: If Tyron's like, you're gonna put Dug out there, because
Speaker 1: I don't know how that's gonna go. Probably you're gonna
Speaker 1: move lyl like it. It's not like that would be
Speaker 1: a cure all in my opinion. But he's out hunting somewhere, yes,
Speaker 1: or watching NASCAR. He will not be coming back to
Speaker 1: the Cowboys anytime soon. It was not something else he said.
Speaker 1: I thought we should kind of discuss this is wable harm.
Speaker 1: Oh that's what it was. Good. So if you want
Speaker 1: me to rant for a second, yes, just this was
Speaker 1: something I said on Twitter last night, like the numb
Speaker 1: you know, I distinctly remember, and I think it kind
Speaker 1: of it started this joke in twenty fifteen, like Brian
Speaker 1: brought us famously started watching draft tape the day after
Speaker 1: the Panthers game on Thanksgiving. I was like, all right,
Speaker 1: that's it. They're three and whatever, they're three and ten
Speaker 1: or whatever their record was. It's time to start watching
Speaker 1: draft tape. And that's that's fine. The number of people
Speaker 1: who are behaving that way on November fifteenth with a
Speaker 1: five and four record is insane to me, Like, and
Speaker 1: I get it. We talked about it yesterday. Like the
Speaker 1: playoff picture looks crowded. This team has its shortcomings. These
Speaker 1: injured players being out, it's gonna make it tough. Like
Speaker 1: I'm not telling you that they're going to make the playoffs,
Speaker 1: but like to be acting like we need to jump
Speaker 1: into draft talk right now when the team has a
Speaker 1: winning record at the midpoint of the season is a
Speaker 1: little insane to me. And it's I said this last night,
Speaker 1: it's insulting to how bad twenty fifteen was that you're
Speaker 1: comparing this to that, you know, like we were the
Speaker 1: Cowboys were basically mathematically eliminated by this point that year,
Speaker 1: Like it would have taken a miracle win streak of
Speaker 1: seven games with Tony Romo, which granted, some people actually
Speaker 1: thought that was possible. I don't know why, but it's
Speaker 1: set it. It's a completely different situation from this, like
Speaker 1: this is what the average NFL season looks like, you know. Like,
Speaker 1: but the problem is the problem is right or wrong?
Speaker 1: And I agree with you this, it's definitely premature, but
Speaker 1: right or wrong. I think the way they lost last
Speaker 1: week and the guys that are out and the reasons
Speaker 1: that they're out and how long they're projected to be
Speaker 1: out absolutely is what has has I think a lot
Speaker 1: of fans saying the arrow is pointing down, like you
Speaker 1: don't know, even when Tyring comes back, he's still got
Speaker 1: a back problem. And he's still got a groin problem.
Speaker 1: That doesn't help you feel good. Why would you be
Speaker 1: excited about the draft? Then? I never understood that, Like,
Speaker 1: let's talk about the draft, then let's talk about of
Speaker 1: what because it's the next That's the only reason is
Speaker 1: because it's getten. It's just because it's the next. I mean,
Speaker 1: I mean that's one way. Look as great as they
Speaker 1: have been soccer or more Chad's Green, what about more
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott. It's not they just sucked in the draft. No, No,
Speaker 1: they haven't sucked in the but they haven't been that.
Speaker 1: They haven't been like just perfect either. I mean they hit,
Speaker 1: they that's the draft. Draft, that's the draft. The draft
Speaker 1: is not going to be perfect. I'm gonna do some
Speaker 1: real quick mass Oh. I just I mean every draft
Speaker 1: is a chance to turn over fifteen to twenty percent
Speaker 1: of your roster and you never know where you will
Speaker 1: or won't hit. It's exciting. Well, I think what I'm
Speaker 1: trying to say is you get sixteen of these games? Yeah,
Speaker 1: like I enjoy them all. Yes, yes, And and that's
Speaker 1: why you'll never hear me say meaningless game ever ever,
Speaker 1: even when it was twenty fifteen. Note go back to
Speaker 1: the five and eleven years. You sure mean not meaningless,
Speaker 1: not meaningless games at December game? Was it a December
Speaker 1: in Tennessee? That was fun? It was I had a
Speaker 1: good time. Yeah, all right that Christmas waking up Christmas
Speaker 1: Day and in with a four and what five? Yea
Speaker 1: playing Anthony quarterback? Yes, because I know that's what you do.
Speaker 1: I get it. And that's for people that love football.
Speaker 1: We love football. I'm not sure everybody out there loves
Speaker 1: football like that. I don't. Maybe it's just there. It's
Speaker 1: just the little trendy way of saying, well, the season's
Speaker 1: over whatever, and maybe maybe it is. But still, I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't think that's too early. I mean, I think
Speaker 1: draft talk really shouldn't even start until late January. Figure
Speaker 1: out who's gonna be in the draft, you know, figure
Speaker 1: out who's gonna declare and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1: And yeah, everybody wants it. We've already had a draft show,
Speaker 1: yeah yeah, and people loved people loved it. Have a
Speaker 1: problem with that, and that's what I was like. I
Speaker 1: love talk, I'll talk draft anytime, but it's just hollow,
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. It's hollow and it's not hollow
Speaker 1: to like look and be like, okay, this it is this,
Speaker 1: this kid from George is having a great season. We
Speaker 1: need a linebacker, Like what's wrong with that? Yeah, but
Speaker 1: it might be hollow for you. But that's the thing.
Speaker 1: It depends on what you what if you're what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: these guys, big boards, these mock drafts, you know, I
Speaker 1: mean every once in a while, Okay, they hit some early,
Speaker 1: but it's that's manufactured bs though, Like I don't care
Speaker 1: about big boards. I just like I like talking about
Speaker 1: what's coming up. What like, like you can look at
Speaker 1: this team, you can't hit it to one hundred percent
Speaker 1: because of free agency and stuff like that, but like,
Speaker 1: you know what this team's gonna need in the draft.
Speaker 1: You know who will probably be in the draft, and like,
Speaker 1: there's nothing wrong with it. And let's not forget of
Speaker 1: about that. Let's not forget this is all entertainment. So
Speaker 1: if it entertains somebody to think right now, even though
Speaker 1: they know I'm basing it on information that's not complete,
Speaker 1: to start projecting what the draft's gonna look like, and
Speaker 1: that's entertainment for someone. It's entertainment. That's the who point.
Speaker 1: It's just entertainment. Okay, that's what I'm saying, But I
Speaker 1: still call it hollow for you, maybe not for somebody else.
Speaker 1: Somebody else, it's fun. If you're trying to figure out
Speaker 1: what the order of the top ten picks is going
Speaker 1: to be, that's hollow. That's a waste of time. But
Speaker 1: to like start trying to get an idea of what
Speaker 1: to expect, I don't think there's anything wrong with that.
Speaker 1: But the fact that we've spent eight minutes on this
Speaker 1: further approves my point, which honestly, I agree the arrow
Speaker 1: is trending down, but you've played nine of sixteen gets
Speaker 1: Like there's a lot of stuff left. And this I
Speaker 1: tell Taylor Stern this all the time, And like you
Speaker 1: got here in twenty fifteen when everything was terrible, and
Speaker 1: then your second season everything was amazing. Like those are
Speaker 1: both outliers in the NFL world. You know, like this
Speaker 1: is what most NFL teams deal with on a year in,
Speaker 1: year out basis, Like the league is designed for you
Speaker 1: to be five and four and have question marks at
Speaker 1: the halfway point. Like that's what football is. And you know,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of football left and no reason at
Speaker 1: all to think that you need to pack it in
Speaker 1: right now, even if the odds look slim. I mean,
Speaker 1: who the hell knows what could happen. Let's take our
Speaker 1: final break, will come back, Let's get some more questions.
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Speaker 1: on Twitter. Let's get a question from Twitter. Do you
Speaker 1: guys think that it was a bad idea to release
Speaker 1: Emmett Cleary? Uh? No, I don't think it was a
Speaker 1: bad idea. You want to talk about Chaz Green. I
Speaker 1: think hmmtt Cleary was right there in the same boat.
Speaker 1: I think if you was he on this team, you'd
Speaker 1: be looking at the same sort of player. He's a
Speaker 1: player that I don't think is very good. So I
Speaker 1: don't think it's a big loss. That's I mean, it's
Speaker 1: the epitome of revisionist history. He's like, well, we let
Speaker 1: that guy go. He's in Detroit right now. Like, No,
Speaker 1: I mean no, like and you know what, he maybe
Speaker 1: he would have done better than Chazz, because again, it's
Speaker 1: hard to do worse than Chazz did. But no, Chazz
Speaker 1: has been and was a better player than h McCleary,
Speaker 1: and McCleary looked like a turnstyle most of the way
Speaker 1: through training camp. And no, just no, I don't think
Speaker 1: it was better. Just Okay, are the defensive problems that
Speaker 1: the Cowboys are having more because of due to Shaun
Speaker 1: Lee's absence or more of what the safeties are doing?
Speaker 1: Wait say that again? Or what the safeties? I think
Speaker 1: it Shaan Lee? Yeah, I mean when when he's out
Speaker 1: out of the game, they struggle a lot more in
Speaker 1: the safety he's kind of been there, they don't help.
Speaker 1: I mean because you're you asked this earlier, you said,
Speaker 1: is it is it just Sean Lee? And I was like, no,
Speaker 1: I mean the safeties are struggling as well, but I
Speaker 1: think it starts there. I mean, but when when Sean
Speaker 1: Lee was in there, the defense as a whole played
Speaker 1: really well, right, and the safeties are part of that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So that's where I get back to, Yes, the safety
Speaker 1: you can say, I mean like in Denver and Arizona. Right,
Speaker 1: I know, but I mean there are some plays when
Speaker 1: Sean Lee is out there, like Washington and and you
Speaker 1: know you're like worse Heath worst Byron Jones. I mean,
Speaker 1: they they're not the best. We know this, we know this,
Speaker 1: so yes, they'll be better with Heath, but even when
Speaker 1: he's out there, they need some improvements. You're you're not
Speaker 1: gonna say there's a safety, we draft the safety and
Speaker 1: you're like, well, no, because we have Sean Lee's that
Speaker 1: we're fine. I'm absolutely with you. I'm not saying that
Speaker 1: they're great. What I'm saying is I think that this
Speaker 1: whole defense has a whole different level when Sean Lee
Speaker 1: is out there than when they're not. And that's everybody.
Speaker 1: That's the safeties, as the corners, that's everybody. When he's
Speaker 1: not out there, it exposes a lot more of the
Speaker 1: deficiencies on this defense. And that's not just the safeties,
Speaker 1: as the linebackers, as the corners, great everybody make people
Speaker 1: around him. There you go, right, that's exactly right. So
Speaker 1: follow up question to that whole thing, how do you
Speaker 1: make this defense better without Sean Lee there? Why can
Speaker 1: the Cowboys possible in order to improve everyone else. You
Speaker 1: guys want to talk draft like, I like, that's what
Speaker 1: they have right now? Why do they do here? We
Speaker 1: go full circle? That's what it kind of goes back.
Speaker 1: It's it's crazy to me that it just all seems
Speaker 1: like it kind of falls apart without him, Like you
Speaker 1: would think, you would think that there's a way around it. Um.
Speaker 1: I mean, first of all, if Sean Lee's not going
Speaker 1: to be there, the defensive line has to play at
Speaker 1: a fantastic level, both in terms of getting to the
Speaker 1: to the passer but also stopping the run, because again,
Speaker 1: Sean Lee is that safety blanket that can mask a
Speaker 1: lot of those types of mistakes. If your defensive line
Speaker 1: is playing well, maybe you don't lean on your linebackers
Speaker 1: so much. Number two like, like I love him to death,
Speaker 1: you just can't. You can't put that strain on Jalen Smith.
Speaker 1: Like I want that, I want him to be ready
Speaker 1: to take on that workload. But we just we have
Speaker 1: nine games of evidence that he can't yet. Talk to
Speaker 1: me again in twenty eighteen. But whether it's justin Durant,
Speaker 1: justin March Lillard, Damian, whatever you want to do, Damian Wilson,
Speaker 1: Kyle Wilber. That's for them to figure out. Maddie Reflus
Speaker 1: knows his guys better than I do. But it's got
Speaker 1: to be some combination that allows Jalen Smith to not
Speaker 1: be on the field fifty or sixty plays. I would
Speaker 1: imagine if Shaun Lee can't play Damien or not Damien,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Anthony Hitchins would play Will. And like I said,
Speaker 1: you put somebody else in at Mike. I get there's
Speaker 1: an argument to be made that you just keep Hitch
Speaker 1: at Mike and let them figure out Will. But Will
Speaker 1: is such an important part of this defense that I
Speaker 1: think it makes more sense to have the better player
Speaker 1: playing there. So and then you just hope for the
Speaker 1: best real I mean, other than that, I don't know
Speaker 1: what you want me to say, Like there's not this
Speaker 1: magical reinforcement. Maybe they could have gotten a Varrol Bowman.
Speaker 1: They never even had a chance to talk. Bowman wasn't
Speaker 1: coming here, he wasn't to So you know, you can
Speaker 1: throw Darrel Washington at me if you want to. That's
Speaker 1: not gonna happen either, and you just have to make do.
Speaker 1: And I mean, we don't have to talk about it
Speaker 1: right now, but linebackers something that they need to consider
Speaker 1: in the draft next year, not just the draft. I
Speaker 1: would consider free agency because I think for a role
Speaker 1: like that where you have this one guy that your
Speaker 1: defense is so dependent upon him and his history, not
Speaker 1: to say that he is. I don't like the word
Speaker 1: injury prone because it's just like it's you go, you
Speaker 1: talk a lot about this. It's kind of giving the
Speaker 1: impression like there's something that the player is doing to
Speaker 1: be injured, and it's not really that. So just saying
Speaker 1: his history is that he gets injured quite a bit.
Speaker 1: I think because of that, and because he's so important,
Speaker 1: getting a veteran that is a good veteran, not the greatest,
Speaker 1: but a good veteran that could steady the ship now
Speaker 1: protect you a little bit better. Even then, if you
Speaker 1: can't get the guy that you think you need to
Speaker 1: get in the draft, however you want to do it,
Speaker 1: you gotta do it. I mean, Sean's great when he's healthy,
Speaker 1: but other than that, there isn't another linebacker on this
Speaker 1: team with a long term future here who is up
Speaker 1: to the task. And you hope that Jalen Smith becomes that,
Speaker 1: but you can't bank on it. Are you at this
Speaker 1: point thinking you gotta resign Hitchens? Because of that? You
Speaker 1: can never say you've got to do anything in regard
Speaker 1: to free agency, because all it takes is for somebody
Speaker 1: Atlanta decides that he's perfect for their scheme and he's
Speaker 1: gonna They're gonna offer him thirty five million or what
Speaker 1: you know, all these guarantees, and then what are you
Speaker 1: gonna do. You're gonna get into a bidding war. So
Speaker 1: you can't say that with certainty about almost anybody. But
Speaker 1: if you can get him back for the right price,
Speaker 1: I would absolutely love to have Anthony Hitchins back. All right,
Speaker 1: let's get a phone call. We have a call from
Speaker 1: Rob in Vegas. Rob. What up? Hey, guys up? Don't
Speaker 1: this season's far from over? Anybody given up? It's just stupid.
Speaker 1: I mean, you got seven games and one broken collarbone
Speaker 1: to you know, when you saw what happened to Rogers,
Speaker 1: So now you can't give up? Why not that bad?
Speaker 1: I just think when you when you take Zeke, who's
Speaker 1: your best player and your most exciting player, it just
Speaker 1: sucks the energy, especially as a fan. It just it
Speaker 1: just took the energy right off the team. You know,
Speaker 1: nobody else has that that vibe like he does. I
Speaker 1: know Dak does, but it's like he's a he's a quarterback.
Speaker 1: He's got too much, too many other things. I just
Speaker 1: think what happened this year is their contingency plan has
Speaker 1: been terrible. I mean they bringing Nolan Carroll to replace
Speaker 1: Brandon Carr, Well, that didn't work out. He's not even
Speaker 1: on the team. Uh. You you draft jalb Smith the
Speaker 1: backup league, Uh, that's not working out. And you got
Speaker 1: Chaz Green trying to back up Tyran Smith and that's
Speaker 1: not working. I mean it's just every move day made
Speaker 1: just hasn't worked this year. I mean, they could have
Speaker 1: even did something really proactive. They could have picked up
Speaker 1: a Jah with a fourth round pick. I mean we're
Speaker 1: talking about, you knew Zeke was probably gonna miss six games,
Speaker 1: and we already talked that they're gonna have to draft
Speaker 1: the running back next year because now with the suspension
Speaker 1: on Zeke, any misstep going forward, I think he's out
Speaker 1: the whole year. So we're talking about drafting and running
Speaker 1: back maybe third, fourth, fifth round. We could have got
Speaker 1: a j He for the fourth round. I think he's
Speaker 1: better than McFadden. Or God keep in my name. But
Speaker 1: I don't even think those the backup running backs are
Speaker 1: gonna be on this team next year. So I just
Speaker 1: think the Zeke just sucked the energy out. I think
Speaker 1: it took a week. I mean last week, it just
Speaker 1: it just it hit them. I think this week they'll
Speaker 1: be better. Now. I don't know if it's gonna they're
Speaker 1: gonna feel better enough to win this game because it
Speaker 1: seems like everything in Philadelphia is good that right now
Speaker 1: we're bad. But who knows. But you can't give up.
Speaker 1: Thanks all right, thanks to the call. We appreciate him. Um.
Speaker 1: I will ask this question, do you think that that
Speaker 1: was Is that a fair criticism that maybe they should
Speaker 1: have been looking for a better running back option when
Speaker 1: they kind of started to see the riding on the
Speaker 1: wall with the Zeke case like a gie where they
Speaker 1: could have would you have given up a fourth round
Speaker 1: pick four say, and a gie caveat option for you
Speaker 1: quick caveat? Which is why it's important to know these things.
Speaker 1: I loved Jagi coming out of the draft. I wanted
Speaker 1: them to draft him before Zeke. It was even in
Speaker 1: anybody's radar. They didn't. They were scared by his medical
Speaker 1: they didn't like his knee, and a lot of teams
Speaker 1: didn't like I said, he was a bulldozer, do everything
Speaker 1: running back for Boise State who fell to the fifth round.
Speaker 1: So if they didn't like him, if they didn't like
Speaker 1: his knee enough to draft him, I can't imagine that
Speaker 1: they wanted anything to do with him after he put
Speaker 1: two or three hundred carries on him. But is that
Speaker 1: not a little bit different from the standpoint of you
Speaker 1: were looking for him to come in and play a
Speaker 1: specific role while Zeke is out and then going say,
Speaker 1: oh what he would be a backup to a guy
Speaker 1: that you expect to play be out there the majority
Speaker 1: of the time. You're saying two years into Stephen Jackson's career,
Speaker 1: you wouldn't have kind of reconsidered that. I just I mean,
Speaker 1: how many two hundred yard games did Jagi you need
Speaker 1: to have in Miami to be like, well, I mean
Speaker 1: same with Ron Leary. And I understand I understand that
Speaker 1: that Ron Leary was a seventh round pick. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, undrafted free agent. But you know, Denver just
Speaker 1: still looked at it like, all right, well, we're gonna,
Speaker 1: we're gonna, you know, he's proven that he can play
Speaker 1: for it, So I know that I know what you're
Speaker 1: saying long term, but I to answer your question, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think they should have done a better job with that.
Speaker 1: I mean, just just keeping these two guys on here,
Speaker 1: especially one of them that you don't like. Obviously, you
Speaker 1: know they don't like McFadden. I don't know why they're
Speaker 1: keeping him. They don't go for a younger guy. And
Speaker 1: Rob is right, and when he says that those two
Speaker 1: guys are probably not going to be here next year,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna they would. Rod Smith will probably be here.
Speaker 1: That's why they're giving him the carries. But I don't
Speaker 1: think he's really the guy here. I think Rod Smith
Speaker 1: is always going to be your second. Well we know
Speaker 1: the guy is here going forward, so maybe that feels
Speaker 1: the role that you want Rod to play as the
Speaker 1: second guy, right, Yeah, but you should be scared to
Speaker 1: death because of I mean, he's you think there's more coming, like,
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't, I don't know. I don't
Speaker 1: know if there's more coming. I don't know if there's
Speaker 1: more coming. But I mean, he hasn't shown yet that
Speaker 1: he can mature from this. He doesn't get the benefit
Speaker 1: of the doubt as far as I'm concerring. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: wrote about that last week, like you need to be
Speaker 1: approaching this as though it's something you'll have to deal
Speaker 1: with in the future, and just in terms of being
Speaker 1: smart and covering your bases. And even if he had
Speaker 1: never done anything off the field, not one issue. Okay,
Speaker 1: he's NFL Man of the Year, You're still gonna be
Speaker 1: thinking how much are we going to invest in this
Speaker 1: guy after this because he's still putting a lot of
Speaker 1: carries on his body and he's gonna enter his third
Speaker 1: year and all that. So it's if not this year's draft,
Speaker 1: that next year's draft you would definitely start looking at
Speaker 1: running back Like, well, but does that does that change
Speaker 1: now that he's going to actually have a season where
Speaker 1: for six weeks he didn't put anywhere into that changes?
Speaker 1: Does that change that next contract situation where you think,
Speaker 1: you know, maybe we are willing to give a running
Speaker 1: back a second contract because of that? Wow, I'm overall
Speaker 1: see what he does. I think there's some good points
Speaker 1: to be made there and some that I disagree with,
Speaker 1: like the contingency plans don't look good. But I mean,
Speaker 1: how much of that is hindsight. How much of that
Speaker 1: should have been better foresight? Maybe your linebacker situation maybe
Speaker 1: should have been better foresight because you're and maybe he
Speaker 1: becomes a great player, but you're hoping with Jalen Smith,
Speaker 1: you know, just like kind of like your safeties, you're
Speaker 1: hoping Jeff Heath can take a step forward instead of
Speaker 1: covering your basis offensive line. Sorry for the millionth time
Speaker 1: in a row, but what had we seen from Chaz
Speaker 1: Green that we shouldn't have thought he could hand that?
Speaker 1: You know? I mean, he looked good in every opportunity
Speaker 1: that he got. He was injury prone, but his problems
Speaker 1: weren't when he played, you know, and he was Sorry, Nick,
Speaker 1: a highly touted draftman, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, but you
Speaker 1: got it's fat until up until you and at this
Speaker 1: point you're talking about guard anyway, you're not even talking
Speaker 1: about tackle. But what had you seen from him other
Speaker 1: than fighting injuries that gave you reason to believe that
Speaker 1: he wasn't a good player right up until I would
Speaker 1: argue week three or four of this season, what preseason
Speaker 1: game was that? Where it was it was this all
Speaker 1: over again? He did ms. I think it was the
Speaker 1: Rams in twenty sixteens. What you're talking about. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean that's when my first thought was he that was
Speaker 1: first game of the year, and he really came back
Speaker 1: in those early games San Francisco maybe, or it's it's hindsight.
Speaker 1: It's hindsight to say you're like, well, we knew Chaz
Speaker 1: Green was awful in my opinion, and we knew he
Speaker 1: had injury issues. That's one of the mail back questions
Speaker 1: on Friday from last week was are you confident about
Speaker 1: Chaz Green? And I was like, no, I was so,
Speaker 1: and I'll eat that crow. That's well. But you know,
Speaker 1: I think there's an in between here. I don't think
Speaker 1: you have to be confident about Jazz Green. I think
Speaker 1: you could be and also not say I was completely
Speaker 1: not confident. I was kind of in the middle. I
Speaker 1: was like, I think he'll be okay. I think he's
Speaker 1: gonna give up some plays, yes, but also don't think
Speaker 1: he's gonna be horrible. I was wrong on that, but
Speaker 1: obviously I think I think that's probably where most people
Speaker 1: felt was he's not a great player, but as a
Speaker 1: backup tackle in the NFL, you're not gonna have a
Speaker 1: great player in most instances. So he's probably a serviceable
Speaker 1: swing tackle, which you can't let an average player get
Speaker 1: to the Pro Bowl on your dime. Yes, we're all
Speaker 1: that's all right, but that's that's after we saw it. Okay,
Speaker 1: nobody went into that game expecting that. Now you can
Speaker 1: do it again. No, now you don't have much option.
Speaker 1: You gotta give him help. I think you don't have
Speaker 1: a better option to put somebody else in there. So
Speaker 1: right now you just got to give him help. I
Speaker 1: think until you get tiring back, you gotta help him.
Speaker 1: Start him at right guard. Zach ready, move Zach on
Speaker 1: over that idea for three years in it Now it
Speaker 1: seems pretty good. All right. We'll finish this up tomorrow.
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