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Speaker 2: Like ever.

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Speaker 1: Ever, it's like a time warp. If you haven't dated

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Speaker 1: And I don't know if you even wanted it in

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Speaker 1: She emailed us saying this is her very first time

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Speaker 1: thanks for having me.

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Speaker 3: I'm just curious because I've ever been on dating apps, right,

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Speaker 4: It made me feel kind of old too, though, I

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Speaker 4: and that was Jack.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so you messaged him, so he reached out to me.

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Speaker 4: So I thought that was vulnerable, you know what I mean,

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Speaker 5: And.

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Speaker 1: Thousands of other guys did.

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Speaker 6: But it's okay, he said, Hey, he's like, oh my god,

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Speaker 3: I mean, how long did it take you to go

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Speaker 4: Date actually about five days. So we started kind of

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Speaker 3: So and I feel like a weekend date is a

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Speaker 6: I'll take a date any day of the week.

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Speaker 1: I think single people think anytime is a good time.

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Speaker 1: Married people like, my weekend is my own time. So

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Speaker 1: what did you guys end up doing?

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Speaker 4: So we ended up going to dinner? Okay, it was

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Speaker 2: What what was that like for you? Because it's like

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Speaker 6: Is amazing it's her first dating app.

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Speaker 3: It's the first guy she's met on this, Like, I

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Speaker 2: It's a lot.

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Speaker 4: I'm a huge fan of Broad City, and I felt

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Speaker 4: oh well, he was just such a gentleman, like he

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Speaker 6: What it's important?

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Speaker 3: Because I mean, you did mention to us that you

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Speaker 4: It did because, like I said, it was over a decade,

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Speaker 1: Oh oh, this is like immediately after the handshake or

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Speaker 4: This was like after the first appetizer, just because I

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Speaker 4: Teared up whenever I think of Dylan, you know, that's

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Speaker 3: You probably were still emotional then. If you're just like

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Speaker 4: I think maybe that the drinks didn't help, you.

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Speaker 2: Know, enhances it. Do you think that that's why Jack

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Speaker 6: We all know you obviously didn't hook up, but did

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Speaker 4: No, he was a gentleman, so we just like this

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Speaker 3: To sing the side hug like I do with all

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Speaker 4: It was my first date, like, I haven't been in

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Speaker 5: Like, give me a break.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we're on this. We're just sorry. We've heard a

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Speaker 1: We'll give not Dylan, uh oh Jack Jack.

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Speaker 2: I am so sorry.

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Speaker 1: I promise you, Rachel, I will not call him Dylan. Okay.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Dylan one song.

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Speaker 1: We'll come back, and we'll call Jack for you, not Dylan.

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Speaker 1: Right after this second date.

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Speaker 6: We'll be Dylan is number dialing his number.

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Speaker 1: Yes, if you're just joining us for the second date,

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Speaker 1: seeing fresh meat on a dating Let's take the music down.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh a newbie. We're gonna stay at Applebee's

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Speaker 2: So it's like she was in college all over again.

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Speaker 1: Jack, who she met, wasn't like that. He was different.

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Speaker 1: He was a gentleman. And how do I know that

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Speaker 1: Well cry in general, Yeah, tears, that's love. Yeah, So, Rachel,

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Speaker 4: Honestly, I'm hoping for the best. There was nothing but

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Speaker 2: And also it's like, you know, this is new to you.

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Speaker 3: There's a lot of options out there that you haven't

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Speaker 1: I kept talking on the town.

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Speaker 2: That's how you get over people, Joe.

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Speaker 6: There is one thing that doesn't change in dating, and

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Speaker 6: that's vibes. Like you can tell if something happened on

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Speaker 3: She hasn't even really a date in her adult life.

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Speaker 2: For lost time. But okay, let's call Jack.

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Speaker 1: You know what, We're just gonna stop projecting our feelings

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Speaker 1: Jack and see what he has to say. Okay, okay, okay, Yes, Hello,

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Speaker 1: Hey is this Jack? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Jeffrey in the Morning. Hello. Oh, that's that's my co

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Speaker 3: No, it just sounded like how he was hitting on

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Speaker 1: Oh geez, sounds like fun, right, All.

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Speaker 5: Right, what do you What do you need from me?

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Speaker 3: Well, we heard a lot of good things about you,

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Speaker 1: And we heard them from one of our listeners named Rachel.

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Speaker 1: Oh okay, yeah, yeah, So tell us what you thought

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Speaker 5: I was not prepared to talk about this.

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Speaker 3: It's okay, I mean she all the some stuff about

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Speaker 1: She's had a lot of really nice things about you,

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Speaker 2: She said, you're a great listener.

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Speaker 5: Well, that's super nice of her. I she was just

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Speaker 2: And that was that wasn't good to you.

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Speaker 5: Know, and she she smiled, and she reached in her

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Speaker 2: Okay, what was on the index card?

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Speaker 1: Index cards are sexy?

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Speaker 2: Is it a recipe from her grandma or something?

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Speaker 5: I kind of wish it was On top it said

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Speaker 3: Oh, you mean, like like first kiss, three dates in

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Speaker 6: It really.

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Speaker 5: Planning.

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Speaker 1: Do you have the card?

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Speaker 5: Yeah? Oh yeah, Date one fist bump, fist bumps, I

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Speaker 6: Oh my god, send me the card before the date.

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Speaker 1: From what we heard, it sounded like you did that

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeah, we definitely we did. Actually we did

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Speaker 6: But yeah, how was it.

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Speaker 5: Oh, it was exactly what you ex fact from.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So it wasn't necessarily her boundaries, it was the

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Speaker 2: Is that what you're saying.

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Speaker 5: which she told me, you know, and I think it's

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Speaker 3: You know, maybe there's a more organic way to work

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Speaker 1: Rather than a five seven. Like what's more organic than

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Speaker 1: other line listening Jack and she wants to talk to you.

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Speaker 3: No, yeah, you know, she's not respecting your boundary in

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Speaker 5: No, Jack, Oh.

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Speaker 4: We had a great time. I mean you you're such

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Speaker 4: Like no gray areas. I thought you would appreciate to

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Speaker 4: like I'm not I'm not trying to play games.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a hot pitch right there, I like, Jack,

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Speaker 5: Rachel Rachel, Okay, look, this is a I can't believe

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Speaker 5: you're we're on the radio right now. This is ridiculous.

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Speaker 1: Ridiculous.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's very funny.

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Speaker 5: It's just even though I think you're a great person,

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Speaker 1: And I know, maybe, dude, do you know how many

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Speaker 1: it's if it's going too far, it's like taking the

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Speaker 1: what she's comfortable with doing before things get awkward. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's her first day in a really, really long time,

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Speaker 5: It doesn't mean you need to be a robot, though.

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Speaker 5: It's like when I walk through your car, I have

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Speaker 5: can do. If it's like small full.

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Speaker 4: You said we didn't have any chemistry, but I guarantee

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Speaker 4: that server what it told you different, And to be honest,

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Speaker 4: it's your loss because after date i'mber vive. Things really

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Speaker 4: open up.

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Speaker 1: Oh is that on the car?

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Speaker 3: I mean the thing about Rachel, she sounds like someone

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Speaker 3: could really bring some other aspects to your life that

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Speaker 3: you don't have.

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Speaker 1: Right now, let's get to the second day on your

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Speaker 1: note card so we can get to some of that

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Speaker 1: other stuff because we'd like to pay for that. What

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Speaker 1: do you say, Jack, give it another shot?

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Speaker 5: Rachel? I just I think it's cool that you think

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Speaker 5: we had chemistry. I just think that like a lot

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Speaker 3: And but give her a second chance on the second day.

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Speaker 3: She knows that already she doesn't have a second note.

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Speaker 2: Card, do you, Rachel, you have another note?

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Speaker 5: Not anymore?

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Speaker 2: Now it's a cassil. Maybe you could just change. She's funny.

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Speaker 2: She's funny.

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Speaker 5: Jack, all right, you know, if we can start over,

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Speaker 5: if we can start over, and.

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Speaker 6: It's like a punch card, you're gonna get like a

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Speaker 6: free last.

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Speaker 2: So are you just saying yes? Is that what you're saying, Jack?

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Speaker 5: I mean, yeah, okay, I'll say yes, but pretend like

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Speaker 5: the card never happened.

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Speaker 2: Okay, she still wants you, Jack.

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Speaker 4: I'm actually excited, and I'm really happy that I was

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Speaker 4: vulnerable and called the station. Thank you guys.

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Speaker 1: You barely cried once during this entire call. That must

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Speaker 1: mean it was a positive experience.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, just don't say that code word that makes her cry.

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Speaker 5: It's Dylane.

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Speaker 3: Oh god

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Speaker 2: Freaking Jeffrey in the morning,