1 00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:06,040 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Raymons Press Pass Podcast. It is Monday 2 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:08,119 Speaker 1: to severer eighth. The Ravens fell to six and seven 3 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:11,239 Speaker 1: on Sunday after I lost to the Pittsburgh Steelers. Today 4 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:13,320 Speaker 1: we had a chance to hear from head coach John Harball. 5 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:23,160 Speaker 2: Okay, I appreciate everybody being here, excited for the opportunity. 6 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 2: Been working all morning talking to different coaches and players 7 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 2: and preparing for the Bengals game. We have an opportunity 8 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:33,479 Speaker 2: to win the division and that's what we're going to 9 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:36,800 Speaker 2: be focusing on and focusing on the next game, which 10 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:41,280 Speaker 2: is the most important game. What question do you have, John, I'm. 11 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:45,280 Speaker 3: Sure you looked and watched the Isaiah Lakely overturn touchdown. 12 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:50,840 Speaker 4: Since then, are you okay comfortable with the call? 13 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:52,199 Speaker 5: Or do you. 14 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 6: After watching it, do you feel there needs to be 15 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 6: more clarification on what. 16 00:00:56,800 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 5: Is a catch? 17 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:02,640 Speaker 2: That's a complicated kind of a question there, Like, am 18 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:03,280 Speaker 2: I comfortable? 19 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:03,640 Speaker 4: You know? 20 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:07,120 Speaker 2: No? Do I think there is more clarification? Yeah, it's 21 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:09,480 Speaker 2: it's about as clear as mud right now. That's how 22 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:10,320 Speaker 2: I feel about. 23 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 7: It makes sense to you that when a guy gets 24 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:17,759 Speaker 7: two feet in, you know, on the sidelines, that's a catch. 25 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 4: You hit the pyelong with football, that's a touchdown. You 26 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:24,320 Speaker 4: break the plane, that's a touchdown. But somehow that's God 27 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 4: ruled a touchdown yesterday. 28 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:32,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a lot to it, and there's that's a conversation. 29 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 2: We had a conversation with the league office and they 30 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:37,200 Speaker 2: were they were gracious enough to spend a lot of 31 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 2: time on the phone with myself and Eric and Tony 32 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:45,040 Speaker 2: Mahaalok and and we appreciate that. It didn't clear anything up. 33 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:46,959 Speaker 2: It didn't make it any easier to understand. And either 34 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 2: one of the two calls, h they're they're very uh 35 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 2: very hard to understand how they get overturned, but they did. 36 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 2: And uh, that's where it stands. 37 00:01:57,520 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 4: That cost you the game. 38 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 2: You never know what costs you the game. 39 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 4: You said two calls. Did you discussed with. 40 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 3: Them the Travis Jones call or is that another you'd 41 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:09,959 Speaker 3: go ahead different process because that one of them didn't 42 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:10,240 Speaker 3: go through. 43 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:13,359 Speaker 2: We did discuss the Travis Jones call as well. And 44 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 2: the Travis Jones call they told me, and they told 45 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 2: me I was I had permission to state this that 46 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 2: it was a wrong call that should not have been called. 47 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:29,799 Speaker 6: That is it in that kind of saying it has 48 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 6: to be forcible contact with the head and neck area. 49 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 4: It's not just. 50 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:39,519 Speaker 2: Correct. That's the rule is not forcible contact to a 51 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:42,800 Speaker 2: defensive player. It's not whether you run a player over 52 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:45,800 Speaker 2: trying to block a field goal. That has nothing to 53 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:47,960 Speaker 2: do with it. It's forcible contact to the head in 54 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:53,519 Speaker 2: that area. 55 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 4: John, do you have anough kind of Pete Mitchell? 56 00:02:56,280 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 2: Day to day? That's the updates day to day. Got 57 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 2: good news where we're at tomorrow and Wednesday looking forward 58 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 2: to that. Yes, John, on the likely. 59 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 8: Touched it, the one that was called not a touchdown? 60 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:13,360 Speaker 4: Were you fine with how he caught? 61 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 8: Is that how you guys want him to catch the 62 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 8: ball in that situation trying to keep it out considered. 63 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 4: The defender is right there behind. 64 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:27,080 Speaker 9: No just going back to the Aaron Rodgers play, the 65 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 9: Teddy Buchanan overturned there, did you sort of look at 66 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 9: that as well? How is likely playing not a catch 67 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 9: and not a catch? 68 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 4: Is that? It was that your view of it? 69 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 2: That's part of the conversation. Sure, that's that's uh. That 70 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 2: was in the weaved into the conversation. 71 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 4: What was kind of kind of the experience. 72 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 2: I mean, we can get into it all. Do we 73 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 2: really want to get into the depth of all that 74 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 2: kind of conversation. I mean, I mean, you know you're 75 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 2: going to the ground. You have to have control of 76 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 2: the football. You gotta, you gotta, you have to survive 77 00:03:57,480 --> 00:03:59,120 Speaker 2: the ground when you make a catch. I mean, that's 78 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 2: that's what it is. You know, there's you can't say 79 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 2: the time elements like that, and he satisfies the time 80 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 2: element when you're going to the ground. The time element 81 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 2: doesn't apply to going to the ground. So it's pretty 82 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 2: clear cut. 83 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 4: John, you discussed a little bit at the end of 84 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 4: the day. 85 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:16,280 Speaker 3: When you go back and watch the last possession, the 86 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:19,840 Speaker 3: two minute two minute possession at the end, what m h. 87 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:22,719 Speaker 4: It didn't seem smooth. You mentioned that yesterday. What what 88 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 4: do you think broke down? What happened there? 89 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 2: Uh, it wasn't good enough. Just leave it at that, 90 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 2: suffice to say, we have to be better in those 91 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 2: situations we had. We we weren't in the right spot 92 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:35,159 Speaker 2: all the time. It took a little. It took us. 93 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:36,840 Speaker 2: We had to flip a formation one time, basically the 94 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 2: one time that the clock was running on us. We 95 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 2: had to change the side that we were relyed on. 96 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:43,320 Speaker 2: That's what came up on that one player talking about 97 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 2: in the two minute drive. 98 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:47,720 Speaker 4: Can you what you saw there? 99 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:47,839 Speaker 10: Was? 100 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 4: There was a fourth down play. 101 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:53,160 Speaker 10: Where it looked like Lamar was looking for DeAndre Hopkins, 102 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 10: but Mark came through it and took the ball. 103 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:57,360 Speaker 4: Was that ball intended for DeAndre? 104 00:04:57,600 --> 00:04:59,120 Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know, and he'd a bad 105 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:00,600 Speaker 2: light and have a chance to talk to more about 106 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:02,360 Speaker 2: that yet, I'm not sure who it was who was 107 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 2: intended to throw to. I don't know. 108 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:05,839 Speaker 4: What did you see on film? 109 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:08,160 Speaker 2: I don't know. I can't only who's intending to throw to. 110 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 2: I mean, it could have been maybe caught by Mark, 111 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:12,600 Speaker 2: maybe could have been caught by hop if it hadn't 112 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:15,359 Speaker 2: been tipped. I don't know. 113 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:18,160 Speaker 7: You were sitting and talking to Lamorrow when we came 114 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 7: in the locker room yesterday. Was that you were reacting 115 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 7: to any sort of distress or frustrating that you saw 116 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:26,599 Speaker 7: from him? Was it just a normal conversation sort of 117 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 7: lived his spirits? 118 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 1: What? 119 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 4: What? 120 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 2: What? 121 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:28,600 Speaker 4: Why? Was that? 122 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:30,159 Speaker 2: It's probably all of it, you know, I mean, it's 123 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:31,919 Speaker 2: it's uh. You guys are in the locker room like 124 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 2: less than ten minutes after the game's over, you know, 125 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:37,360 Speaker 2: in that deal and and uh, and then that was 126 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 2: a little that was a little longer because that was 127 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:41,360 Speaker 2: after the press conference, I think, right, And that's why 128 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:43,360 Speaker 2: I happened to walk back and I see Lamari still 129 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 2: in his uniform, you know, in his locker, and uh, 130 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 2: it was they felt like the right thing to do 131 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:50,480 Speaker 2: to sit down and have a conversation. I really didn't. 132 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 2: I don't think either one of us really processed that. 133 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 2: You guys were all in there. But you are in there. 134 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:57,920 Speaker 2: It's normal, you know, so we're used to that. And uh, 135 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 2: we just had a conversation about stuff, know, and how 136 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:02,839 Speaker 2: we're feeling and a lot of different things and we 137 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:08,159 Speaker 2: have a great relationship and friendship and and we're processing it. 138 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 2: At that point in time. 139 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:14,159 Speaker 6: We didn't see Emery Jones at all. Is it just 140 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 6: a weekly thing? And or you kind of reevaluating well. 141 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, he played okay in the game. It wasn't better 142 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 2: than either one of the other two guys in the 143 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:23,719 Speaker 2: first game. You know, he did not play those guys. 144 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:26,240 Speaker 2: So you're going into the game with your best guys 145 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 2: that you feel are playing the best. So you got 146 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:29,800 Speaker 2: to meet players where they're at and not to say, 147 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 2: not to say you couldn't get more time this week, 148 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 2: you know, based on what happens in practice or how 149 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 2: guys are doing health wise and those sort of things. 150 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 2: But you know, that's that's that's where it was at. 151 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 2: So I mean, Emory's doing great. I mean he's in 152 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 2: a great place. I love where he's at, and I 153 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 2: think if he went out there, he'd compete like crazy, 154 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 2: and he probably I think he played great because I 155 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 2: would trust him to go play great. But based on 156 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:52,719 Speaker 2: that formance, you couldn't say it was better, you know, 157 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 2: or even the same. 158 00:06:56,920 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 9: John, we mentioned the swing path muchdown to Dayalen War 159 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 9: and you said that was one of our worst plays, 160 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 9: not of. 161 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 4: Things broke down if you go back and watch it again. 162 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 3: Now, what was it that led that whole half of 163 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 3: the field basically to the open for just too. 164 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 2: Miss assignments, two guys not covering the correct guy. You know, 165 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 2: I was pretty straightforward. You know, it doesn't happen very often. 166 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 2: We haven't had many of those all year, you know, 167 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:25,239 Speaker 2: and I think maybe one or maybe two total all year, 168 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 2: which I'm kind of proud of. But he came up there, 169 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 2: and it's a head scratcher. You know so, but it happened, 170 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 2: is that it. 171 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 4: John with going forward with the. 172 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 6: With the offensive line, we ask you a lot about changes. 173 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 4: Will you pleased to have that group played as a 174 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 4: whole on Sunday? 175 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:52,680 Speaker 6: I know there's been a lot of talk about five 176 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:55,680 Speaker 6: alas play and how he got beat on a couple occasions. 177 00:07:56,400 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 6: What did you see when you evaluated him and as 178 00:07:58,920 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 6: you continue to. 179 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 2: Evaluate, Yeah, I just I just talked to Georgia Moore 180 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 2: up about it. You know, it's all in all. I 181 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 2: thought the offensive line played well all in all, you know. 182 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 2: And I thought the two tackles played two of their 183 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 2: better best games. Roger overset one time got beat inside 184 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 2: on a certain type of pass protection. Tyler played really well. 185 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 2: I thought the guards played exceptionally well in the run game. 186 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 2: I mean they were moving people, they were they were 187 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 2: they were wearing people out, you know, so that was 188 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 2: good to see. I thought they were mostly mostly good 189 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 2: in the past game, but two inconsistent. Probably there was 190 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 2: two or three each of them had. Probably uh Daniel 191 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 2: had had a couple in the past game, and and 192 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:36,600 Speaker 2: Andrew might have had one or two in the run game. 193 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:39,280 Speaker 2: He wants back, but every player has plays they want back. 194 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 2: You know, I can think of one where Daniel uh 195 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 2: was was was hard setting like a hard play action 196 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:46,840 Speaker 2: when it was more of a drop back pass type protection, 197 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 2: got over extended and got beat like that. You know 198 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 2: that's uh that really shouldn't happen. I mean, you know 199 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 2: he should he should he should be setting a different 200 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 2: way there. You know he knows that. So that was mistake. Uh. 201 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 2: Lots of other times it was good. We got towards 202 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 2: the end on a three a two man inside game, 203 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 2: you know that we would have been we could have 204 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 2: done a better job on keep them are clean right 205 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 2: at the end of the game. There so things like 206 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:14,319 Speaker 2: that that need to be better from the interior guys. 207 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:16,679 Speaker 10: I talked about a little bit after the being the 208 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 10: press stage, they were keep shots. 209 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:21,559 Speaker 7: You know, there was a lot of talk, you know, 210 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 7: outside talk anyway about how little. 211 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 4: They didn't pushed the ball down on the field over the 212 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:27,439 Speaker 4: last month. How much of a talking point was that 213 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 4: during the week they might try that. Were you guys. 214 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 7: Surprised and they took their shots and I guess just 215 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:34,079 Speaker 7: looking at those players, you know, anything that's stood out 216 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 7: of out. 217 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, No, they were, I mean they were they were 218 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 2: good throws and good catches, and they're right kind of 219 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:42,719 Speaker 2: they're both. They were all covered. You know, we might 220 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 2: have had the one on the left sideline that there 221 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 2: was a step of separation there. We felt good about. 222 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:51,080 Speaker 2: We didn't play press all the whole game, by any stretch, 223 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 2: but they caught whenever we were in pressed. I think 224 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:54,720 Speaker 2: through through you know, they that was one of their 225 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 2: checks impressed to go get it. So, you know, you 226 00:09:57,800 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 2: probably go back and rethink that a little bit, no situation. 227 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 2: But we played play press a lot of times. We 228 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 2: took away a lot of routes too, so we felt 229 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 2: like we would. We know we're good at that. You know, 230 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:07,440 Speaker 2: we do a good job of jamming people at the 231 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:10,319 Speaker 2: line and covering people. We've been exceptional, you know in 232 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:14,200 Speaker 2: man coverage. So but those plays were made, you know, 233 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 2: and it was it was it was really all they 234 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 2: had that And then he was able to get out 235 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 2: a couple of times. I think of the play right 236 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 2: to start the second half. You know, we got out. 237 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 2: It was crazy that he got out there and hit 238 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:26,920 Speaker 2: that scramble, scrambled played for a big chunk that got 239 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 2: him a field goal. I believe. So those two things 240 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 2: I think those the fades was four of them, and 241 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 2: the scramble play are the really the four plays that 242 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:39,079 Speaker 2: you'd say, hey, you know what, those are the plays 243 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 2: that kind of that was the core of their whole 244 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 2: offensive production. Really the whole game. All the other things, 245 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 2: I mean things like the run game. We took it away, 246 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:50,079 Speaker 2: the run after the catch game, we took it away. 247 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 2: I was proud of that. And we played we we 248 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 2: we uh, the underneath routes, we drove, we tackled really well, 249 00:10:57,679 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 2: you know. So those are all points of emphasis as well. 250 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:03,320 Speaker 6: What was about the I think it was a third 251 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 6: and two rate before the fourth and five? 252 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:08,839 Speaker 4: Yeah, what what? What broke down? 253 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 2: We just didn't you know, as you look back on it, 254 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:14,679 Speaker 2: I mean it was, uh, it's crazy that that happened, 255 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:17,199 Speaker 2: you know. And I don't think we had an understanding 256 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 2: uh between the box and h in the field in 257 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:23,560 Speaker 2: terms of what we were what we wanted to do there, 258 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 2: you know, and that's communication. Well, we gotta take responsibility 259 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 2: for that as a coaching on the coaching side, so 260 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 2: you know, I'll take responsibility for that one. That's uh, 261 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 2: it shouldn't happen. We thought we were gonna be okay 262 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 2: with the formation, and it didn't turn out we were 263 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 2: you know, so if I had to do it again, 264 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:39,679 Speaker 2: I definitely would have called time out if I had 265 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:40,840 Speaker 2: of known that felt that way. 266 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 7: Sean, when you guys added DeAndre Hopkins in the off season, 267 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 7: I guess what we were expectations for role And how 268 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 7: is that compared to how you. 269 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 4: Guys have used him so far? 270 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd like to be using DeAndre more. You know, 271 00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:57,199 Speaker 2: we got a couple of throws, you know, just kind 272 00:11:57,200 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 2: of sometimes it's just the way that the game goes 273 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 2: a little bit. But you know, he's not out there 274 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:03,160 Speaker 2: all the time. He's not. He's not. I don't think 275 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 2: he's at the stage of his career where he's gonna 276 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 2: play every play, you know, so you know, when he's 277 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:08,839 Speaker 2: out there, you really want to And we've talked a 278 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 2: lot about this, trying to be intentional about him being 279 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 2: out there for specific purposes and to do the things 280 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 2: that he does well, which we all kind of know 281 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 2: what those things are. So I will say that, like, 282 00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 2: if you go back and you watch the game, you're 283 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 2: going to see him playing his tailoff. I mean, he's 284 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 2: running routes, he's he's fighting to get open. He's blocking. Uh, 285 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 2: he's he's competing. He's doing everything he can. That's what 286 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:34,440 Speaker 2: I admire about him and love about him. He's he's 287 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:37,920 Speaker 2: just become one of my favorite favorite players ever, you know. 288 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:41,080 Speaker 2: And we're gonna we're gonna, we're gonna be we are 289 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 2: gonna be friends for a long time, you know. And 290 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:44,200 Speaker 2: we've had a lot, he and I've had a lot 291 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:47,200 Speaker 2: of these conversations. But yes, he's next this next game, 292 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 2: and he's next four games and into the playoffs. Let's 293 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 2: let's get him involved more. 294 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:51,440 Speaker 6: You know. 295 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:54,440 Speaker 2: We really need to try to do that. We have 296 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:56,600 Speaker 2: been trying to do it. We can do it hasn't 297 00:12:56,640 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 2: fallen for us. But I still believe he's gonna make 298 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:00,040 Speaker 2: plays for us. They are gonna make. 299 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:09,040 Speaker 6: John did this the holding on the special teams play before? 300 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 4: Do you think that was a legitimate I know, the like, 301 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:13,120 Speaker 4: what did you see on that? 302 00:13:13,280 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 2: I think he went to the ground. You know what 303 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:20,240 Speaker 2: caused him to go to the ground. I couldn't tell. Well, 304 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:22,840 Speaker 2: that'd be one that will send in and ask him about. 305 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 6: I'm sure he's probably the fact that the guy in 306 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 6: the far in through the flag and not the guys 307 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 6: that were closest to it. 308 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:33,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I don't know. I can't I who knows. 309 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:34,960 Speaker 2: Who knows why they called stuff? Sometimes? 310 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 11: How do you guys kind of formulate Lamar's practice plans? 311 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 11: He EASA last week that Wednesday would maybe the rest day, 312 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:48,600 Speaker 11: and he played, and they practice and stead this Thursday, 313 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:52,680 Speaker 11: And just like how important is kind of modulating everything, 314 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 11: especially with you know, I. 315 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 2: Mean Lamar Lamar, Yeah, I get it. It's there's not 316 00:13:57,040 --> 00:13:59,080 Speaker 2: a science. There's there's no science here. You know, you 317 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 2: want to have everybody practice and every day. I mean, 318 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 2: that's what it's your goal, you know, as a coach. 319 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 2: But it's a long season, man, I mean these guys, 320 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 2: these guys go through a lot. You know, Lamar as 321 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:12,200 Speaker 2: much as anybody's got the ball in his hand every play, 322 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:14,319 Speaker 2: he's making plays, he's doing what he does. He's competing 323 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:17,320 Speaker 2: like crazy, you know. So there's gonna be times where 324 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:18,760 Speaker 2: he's just not going to be up for practice. It's 325 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 2: just not going to be the best way to go 326 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 2: about doing it. And that's a conversation between you know, Lamar, 327 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 2: the trainers. You know, we're involved in that to some degree, 328 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:29,720 Speaker 2: But you know, what's best for him to be ready 329 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 2: to play his best on Sunday. That's really what matters. 330 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:35,600 Speaker 2: And so sure you'd rather have everybody practicing all the time, 331 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 2: but if it's not the best thing to practice because 332 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 2: you want to get your body right, that's that's definitely 333 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 2: got to you know. I think you have to respect 334 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 2: that as a coach. I think you have. I know 335 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:46,800 Speaker 2: you have to respect that as a coach. So I 336 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:49,760 Speaker 2: respect Lamar and his judgment. And I thought he played 337 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 2: very well. You know, I thought he played very well 338 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:52,400 Speaker 2: in the game. 339 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 11: I guess with how long he's been this time of system, 340 00:14:56,480 --> 00:14:59,119 Speaker 11: it's not like, you know, there are parts. 341 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 4: Of play what they want to be able to. He's 342 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:02,080 Speaker 4: not off the field or. 343 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 2: Anything like that, right, Yeah, how long he's did in 344 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:07,720 Speaker 2: this offense under the top munket. 345 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:10,560 Speaker 11: He's not like missing practice me thinking he's off the 346 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 11: table for the offense. 347 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 2: Absolutely absolutely. I mean he knows the offense, you know. 348 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 2: And I think if you look at the game, you 349 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:20,800 Speaker 2: would have to say he looked good physically. You know, 350 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:24,360 Speaker 2: he was moving well. So consider that, you know, he 351 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:26,200 Speaker 2: was he was moving around pretty darn good. And that's 352 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:28,160 Speaker 2: a positive. And I was happy to see it. 353 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:31,600 Speaker 7: John they got some good starting field positions, and I'll 354 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 7: figure kickoffs yesterday. What is Tyler's target? Almost is like 355 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:38,840 Speaker 7: is he trying to get into the five? And sometimes 356 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 7: it holds up at the ten? Like what is the 357 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 7: goal on the kick? 358 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 4: Yeah? 359 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:44,120 Speaker 2: Okay, I mean yeah, we want you know, the short 360 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:45,520 Speaker 2: kicks are the ones that are coming out past the 361 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 2: thirty thirty five. I mean it's just so simple, you know. 362 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:49,480 Speaker 2: So no, we don't want the short kicks. We're not 363 00:15:49,480 --> 00:15:50,800 Speaker 2: trying to kick the ball at the ten or fifteen 364 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 2: yard line. You know, those are those are really tough 365 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:56,760 Speaker 2: to cover. You know, it's hard you catch about to fifteen, 366 00:15:56,840 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 2: I mean, how far do you have to run? You know? So, uh, 367 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 2: those are too short, you know. And he's a young guy, 368 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 2: he's a rookie, you know, and so he's working on it. 369 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:10,880 Speaker 2: He's not consistent at this point. We need to be 370 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:13,600 Speaker 2: more consistent. We'd like to have the ball, yeah, five 371 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 2: inside the five. You know, if it leaks into the 372 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 2: end zone, it leaks into the end zone, you know sometimes, 373 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 2: So that's kind of where we're. 374 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 4: At with it. Is a technique thing? Is it a 375 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 4: reacting to the conditions thing? 376 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 2: Is you know, it's a lot of things. It's a 377 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:27,960 Speaker 2: lot of things. It's you know, it's it's you out 378 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 2: there and you try to You're trying to put that 379 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 2: ball down the field. You're trying to kick it right, 380 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 2: and sometimes sometimes you don't hit it right, you know, 381 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 2: And it's it's probably more like golf than anything else. 382 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:37,680 Speaker 2: Do you play golf? 383 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:41,720 Speaker 7: Child's not not in any way. 384 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:46,680 Speaker 2: Right, So you've probably come up short on your chip 385 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 2: shots quite a bit. You know, he's coming up short 386 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:53,160 Speaker 2: on those, you know, And it's not Tyler. I love you. 387 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:56,160 Speaker 2: You know, he knows. We've had the conversation, so we 388 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:57,280 Speaker 2: want those balls deeper. 389 00:16:57,640 --> 00:17:00,240 Speaker 3: John, you mentioned the uh you'd send them play in 390 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:03,560 Speaker 3: on the punt return on the punt holding penalty. And this, 391 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 3: if I can go back to the conversation you had 392 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:08,800 Speaker 3: about the about the replay play and the Frus Jones play. 393 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 3: Was that call you guys initiated this morning and is 394 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 3: that unusual for you to do? 395 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:17,879 Speaker 2: Yes? And yes, that's not. I think I've done it 396 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:20,080 Speaker 2: one other time this year so far. I'll say this. 397 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:22,440 Speaker 2: Perry Fuel Walt Coleman are great. 398 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:22,919 Speaker 4: You know. 399 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:25,280 Speaker 2: Those are the two guys that that interact with the 400 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:27,920 Speaker 2: coaches directly. We don't get to interact with anybody else, 401 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:33,440 Speaker 2: whoever else, whoever else there is back there behind the scenes. 402 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 2: But those two guys are the guys that relate to 403 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:37,879 Speaker 2: the coaches. And anytime I've ever called those guys, I 404 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:40,760 Speaker 2: mean I've known those guys for over twenty close to 405 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:44,360 Speaker 2: twenty eight years, both those guys, and they they're they're excellent, 406 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:48,960 Speaker 2: and they're honest, and sometimes it's tough on them to 407 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:52,040 Speaker 2: explain it. So I understand that too. 408 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:55,600 Speaker 4: That's who you had. The conversation was both with them. 409 00:17:56,600 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 10: What's the lake in the room when you got to 410 00:17:58,160 --> 00:17:59,720 Speaker 10: hang on the phone and they tell you, yeah, we 411 00:17:59,800 --> 00:18:02,639 Speaker 10: got something wrong, but you know, if there's nothing we 412 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 10: can do about it. 413 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:04,679 Speaker 4: Now, yeah, we move on. 414 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:06,320 Speaker 2: You know, we move on. We just like our team does. 415 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:08,400 Speaker 2: You know, it's it's it's our job to make it right. 416 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:10,280 Speaker 2: You know that you can't. You just you're not gonna 417 00:18:10,280 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 2: expect everything to go your way. You're gonna get Uh. 418 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:14,960 Speaker 2: This is a great there's a great Passes and Second 419 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 2: Corinthians that talks about you know, these kind of things, 420 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:20,359 Speaker 2: trials and tribulations and things like that. They they create 421 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:23,520 Speaker 2: an enduring toughness and hope, you know, and that's you 422 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:27,879 Speaker 2: look at it that way, we understand what the good 423 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:31,080 Speaker 2: that can come from these challenges. And I if we 424 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 2: become the type of team that can overcome these types 425 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:36,000 Speaker 2: of things, then you become the type of team that 426 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:38,480 Speaker 2: can that can go far. And I think that's true 427 00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:40,919 Speaker 2: for football. It's also true for life or family, for 428 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:42,520 Speaker 2: your kids. When you talk to your kids, all these things, 429 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:44,400 Speaker 2: these are like, these are self and these are these 430 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:48,000 Speaker 2: are enduring, self evident principles that we try to talk 431 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 2: to our guys about. So let's apply them to our 432 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:54,440 Speaker 2: football team right now. And uh yeah, okay, those those 433 00:18:54,520 --> 00:19:00,480 Speaker 2: calls were we're we're trials and tribulations put it that way, 434 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:04,400 Speaker 2: and you know what, let's overcome them. Let's let's uh, 435 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:09,879 Speaker 2: let's let's let's beat them. 436 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 8: We've actually got rid zone a lot this year, two 437 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:15,720 Speaker 8: for six again yesterday. I mean, at this point in 438 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:18,440 Speaker 8: the season, does it feel like you're kind of running 439 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 8: out of options and in ways to try to fix. 440 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:23,440 Speaker 2: That situation, because because we don't run out of hope, 441 00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 2: you know, I mean, it's like I'm not I'm not 442 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:27,960 Speaker 2: a hopeless person, So we don't run out of options. 443 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:30,359 Speaker 2: You know, we keep we keep we keep working, and 444 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:33,240 Speaker 2: we keep developing, and we keep coming back and keep fighting. 445 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:35,200 Speaker 2: We don't throw up our hands and say we're out 446 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:37,680 Speaker 2: of options. We don't do that. So the answer that 447 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:40,760 Speaker 2: is a firm no, John. 448 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:43,239 Speaker 6: We haven't asked you about a while. Has there been 449 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 6: any clarity in no day? Might av gay situation? Do 450 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:47,960 Speaker 6: you know any more about that that you can share? 451 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:53,960 Speaker 2: Uh? No, not that I can share. There's there's a 452 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:57,640 Speaker 2: lot going on there. It's in with NMBI. 453 00:19:58,840 --> 00:19:59,240 Speaker 4: And I. 454 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 2: I'd love to I'd love to share some stuff, but 455 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:03,720 Speaker 2: I can't share it right now. 456 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 4: Okay, agree question. 457 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:11,800 Speaker 5: Football fans know that traditions matter. 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