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Speaker 3: a new episode, but we wanted to take a little

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Speaker 3: a classic, but followed up with our weekend classic being

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Speaker 3: part two of History's Weirdest Flexes with our buddies Miles

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Speaker 3: and Jack from the Daily Zeitgeist.

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Speaker 1: to give a shout out to our super producer Casey Pegram.

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Speaker 3: There he is, Look at him. Look at our boy, Casey.

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Speaker 3: There he is a glint in his eye as always.

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Speaker 1: Oh, we should mention that today's episode is pretty fascinating

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Speaker 1: to us. We started talking with some friends of ours

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Speaker 1: off air about the most petty or strangest flexes in

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Speaker 3: Ben, you're gonna have to You're gonna have to hip

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Speaker 3: me to this lingo here. What is a flex? Ah?

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Speaker 1: Well, who better to explain that than our friends that

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Speaker 1: we actually brought on the air for the episode today

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Speaker 1: of the host of one of our favorite podcasts, The

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Speaker 1: Daily Zeitgeist.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we have Miles and Jack from the Daily Zeite

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Speaker 3: guys joining us as we speak.

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Speaker 2: Gentlemen, what's up guys? Hello Jack? How are you so?

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Speaker 4: So?

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Speaker 3: These guys us, Miles and Jack are the anchors of

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Speaker 3: our Los Angeles operation. They do a lot of comedy.

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Speaker 3: They have this amazing political comedy show that they do

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Speaker 3: every day of the week, and they're kind of the

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Speaker 3: cooler versions of us. So can you just explain what

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Speaker 3: a flex is?

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Speaker 5: Yes, flex, if we go strictly by the Urban Dictionary definition,

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Speaker 5: would be a verb in which someone would show off

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Speaker 2: Wow, that was very official, Miles, Thank you so much.

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Speaker 6: Yes, yeah, so that's what a flex is.

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Speaker 3: How is a flex different than a stunt? I mean

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Speaker 3: it's kind of the same thing. A stunt, you're still

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Speaker 3: kind of showing out as you will. But sometimes a flex,

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Speaker 3: you know, it's really about, like you know, coming from

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Speaker 2: I feel like a.

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Speaker 4: Flex can come from within maybe where a stunt can be.

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Speaker 4: A stunt would be more like showing off things.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 5: No, you nailed it, Thank you so much. But yeah,

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Speaker 5: I mean essentially it's all the same thing. It's just

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's really just about showing off really or yeah,

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Speaker 4: I love weird flex because it has taken over for

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Speaker 4: I think they misunderstood. So weird flex is actually an

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Speaker 2: Weird, and we're happier here weird.

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Speaker 1: Flex like, for example, setting the record for eating the

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Speaker 2: That is a weird flex. Yeah, and then bragging about

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, we're going to explore not all of but

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Speaker 3: Which is already a weird flex in and of itself.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a strange choice, very much landscaping.

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Speaker 4: The fact that I have the second largest collection of

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Speaker 4: not going to brag about that, because that would be

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Speaker 1: But I know East LA is pretty competitive and cutthroat

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Speaker 1: Yes, So this should be this should be close to

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Speaker 1: The nomen culture life. So there was this moment, primarily

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Speaker 1: And these guys had a really weird gig. First off,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And it's like he's like, hey, I got a

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Speaker 3: I've heard. I literally had memorized at this point and

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Speaker 3: I'm not giving you a dollar.

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Speaker 1: At this point, I can do his ad libs.

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Speaker 5: To flex on him, you should come up to him

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Speaker 1: He might even say I love that. I've never heard

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Speaker 3: That's also true.

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Speaker 1: So the thing that they were attempting to do with

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Speaker 4: People start getting cheap, knockoff garden hermits right then the

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Speaker 6: That's because that's where my wealth is acting.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's like, yeah, they're just lighting up the mood.

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Speaker 4: My social life currently is mostly mostly involved going to

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Speaker 4: But they there's always like a Disney princess or some

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Speaker 4: Usually it's Elsa, although I actually saw the bubble.

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Speaker 4: I guess it's just that it's almost like creating, turning

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Speaker 3: Yep, so that we can get your leg fixed. Do

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Speaker 3: Tim No, no, no, no, no, don't have family, no contact,

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Speaker 3: it's a no contact. Yeah. That is a very very

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Speaker 5: But I think it's kind of It could come back

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Speaker 3: Right right exactly.

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Speaker 1: But that is that is my that that is my

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Speaker 1: I think it is, obviously.

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Speaker 3: I think it is too. And another thing that I

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Speaker 1: This this is alone, Yes.

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Speaker 3: Yes, alone. I'm just pointing, just putting that out there

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Speaker 4: a short story I think in tenth of December. Yes,

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Speaker 4: like sort of a weird futuristic version of this that

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Speaker 4: you're not supposed to eat those. Darwin said the taste

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Speaker 1: Does it does it seem strange? He might just have

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so, well so, I I kind of always associated

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Speaker 4: he ate iguanas, armadillos. He not only ate giant tortoises,

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Speaker 4: he ate like so many of the giant giant tortoises.

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Speaker 4: He documented that there weren't any left when he got

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Speaker 2: Jesus, and he tried.

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Speaker 4: He also tried drinking their bladder contents. He said the

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Speaker 4: You gotta drink the bladder contents for science.

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Speaker 3: It's on my license plate. This is incredible because I

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Speaker 3: never even right. He was pitched as honestly. I mean,

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Speaker 5: It's all it's all cover, right. I think we have

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Speaker 5: His main goal was to eat as many animals as possible.

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Speaker 5: I think of him as actually the first guy Fieri.

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Speaker 3: Had nothing to do with science.

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Speaker 6: The science bit was just a cover to be like

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Speaker 5: Yeah, drinking, he's drinking turtle pea. I know he's talking.

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Speaker 6: About his evolution thing.

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Speaker 1: Because even if we're being generous, we can say, okay,

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Look, we've all been to uh what's the the

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Speaker 2: First, you got to ride after the one.

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Speaker 3: You got to ride the turtle and then my head

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Speaker 3: and then you eat it. That's just how you do.

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Speaker 3: That's the order of operation.

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Speaker 4: They frown on that. In my experience, I mean, maybe

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Speaker 5: The first thing I do when I see a turtle

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Speaker 4: And it's a numbers you know, the s Miles is

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Speaker 3: Have a guy for toxic ooze? That is my question

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Speaker 2: La man I can get to.

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Speaker 1: Market.

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Speaker 3: We'll talk off air. Yeah, well specialized too.

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Speaker 5: There's certain kinds for mammals, and there's other ones for

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Speaker 1: Yeah, as there should be. That makes sense. Did this

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Speaker 4: I mean, I think right, So I think it was

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Speaker 1: You know it.

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Speaker 3: eat one of every animal. Just to show that you've

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Speaker 3: got one over on these dumb creatures and that you

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Speaker 3: are the top of the food chain. And they better

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Speaker 3: know that.

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Speaker 4: I mean, as a scientist, when you spend that much

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Speaker 4: time around the animals, you really come to understand that

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Speaker 4: they think they're better than you. Yeah, that they need

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Speaker 4: to be put in their place. But just two quick

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Speaker 4: facts that I found particularly interesting. He ate a twenty

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Speaker 4: pound rodent and said it was the very best meat

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Speaker 4: he had ever tasted. So rodent meat is apparently underrated.

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Speaker 4: And at one point his hunger came into contrast with

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Speaker 4: his scientific drive because he had spent months trying to

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Speaker 4: find this ostrich like bird called a lesser rihea, and

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Speaker 4: he was eating what he thought to be a greater rea,

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Speaker 4: and about halfway through the portion, or about halfway through

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Speaker 4: his portion of greater rea, he realized, oh no, that

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Speaker 4: bone being there means this is actually a lesser rea,

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Speaker 4: the thing I've been looking for forever. So he had

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Speaker 4: to basically send this animal he was hoping to scientifically

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Speaker 4: document back to England as just a bunch of like

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Speaker 4: chicken bones and skin and feathers because he had eaten

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Speaker 4: most of.

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Speaker 1: It, so he uh, he sent them leftovers.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 4: He did send it in a styrofoam clamshell container.

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Speaker 3: I have to do it, did he did? He then

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Speaker 3: get dia rhea? Imagine I had to. I had to,

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Speaker 3: I had to.

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Speaker 2: You are absolved. That was necessary.

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Speaker 3: Thank you.

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Speaker 2: Somebody had to say it.

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Speaker 3: They had it had to be said.

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Speaker 2: Was gonna feel unfulf the.

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Speaker 6: Judges, and yes, we will accept it, we will thank you.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for taking one for the team.

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Speaker 3: Noyeah. Of course glad to do.

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Speaker 2: It, so we really appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: So so far we have two. I would say legitimate

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Speaker 1: flex is legitimately weird at least, and both are somewhat

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Speaker 1: cruel when you think about it. Uh, you know, I

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Speaker 1: think the gambit was correct in the beginning. I think

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Speaker 1: this is a two part episode.

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Speaker 3: And you know, I really hate it when Pete podcasters saying, well,

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Speaker 3: we're running out of time, so we're going to make

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Speaker 3: this a two parter shenanigans. No, our episodes can be

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Speaker 3: as long as we want. We just are trying to

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Speaker 3: get two episodes out of this because we're lazy.

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Speaker 1: No Well, I mean maybe that's where you're coming from, Noel,

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie. I was gonna walk outside and

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Speaker 1: see if there was some kind of rodent that I

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Speaker 1: could eat for science, because apparently that's okay now you know, well, Ben,

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Speaker 1: we went We're very different people, Ben, We're very different people.

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Speaker 2: Lazy and hungry, lazy and hungry.

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Speaker 1: That's it. That's the that's our combo before before we

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Speaker 1: go on this episode, though, a very very important question

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Speaker 1: that I know everybody listening is waiting to hear, which

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Speaker 1: of the teenage mutant Ninja Turtles is your favorite or

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Speaker 1: which one do you identify with the most. I couldn't

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Speaker 1: let it be unset.

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Speaker 4: I was more of a casual Turtles fan, So I

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Speaker 4: was more Michaelangelo, just the everybody's first choice when they're

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Speaker 4: young and first getting to know it.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Michael Angelo.

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Speaker 3: He's like a rebel.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a rebel who likes pizza.

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Speaker 3: Just like me.

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Speaker 6: Maybe all love pizza, but he really loves he loves pizza.

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Speaker 6: Yeah for me, I was.

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Speaker 5: I liked Michaelangelo for the swag, the confidence, yes, the

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Speaker 5: rebellious attitude, the weird flecks. But in the end I

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Speaker 5: kind of said I was more of a Donatello guy, Okay,

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Speaker 5: because I like blue.

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Speaker 3: Dona Tello is a smart one, right, didn't Donna Tello?

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Speaker 3: Wasn't he the sciencey guy?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Don Tello has inventions. I yeah, and the bowstat.

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Speaker 3: Bowsta, which is which is admittedly the most boring of

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Speaker 3: the Ninja Turtles weapons. And in my opinion, really I

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00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:28,040
Speaker 3: think Michaelangelo the nunchucks are obviously the most fun. He's

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Speaker 3: got two of them. He can swing him around, do

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Speaker 3: all kinds of crazy tricks.

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Speaker 1: But he's got no reach. No, he's got no reach.

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Speaker 3: What do you mean he's got no reach.

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Speaker 1: He's got to reach with the nunchucks. You gotta be

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Speaker 1: really active to well Doe, Okay, I'm just my bias

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Speaker 1: is showing. I'm also team Donna Tello.

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Speaker 3: You're on team don Tello.

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Speaker 1: Hell yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 3: I always liked to Actually I misspoke.

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Speaker 5: I meant to say Leonardo is the one who is blue.

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Speaker 3: Oh, that's right, wear blue. Yes, But don Tello was

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Speaker 3: still the sciencey guy. Leonardo was sort of the de

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Speaker 3: facto leader. Yeah, he's like the cyclops, yes, of the Turtles.

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Speaker 3: That's right, that's right. I was always Michael Angelo. I'm

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Speaker 3: with that, And I was not a casual Turtles fan.

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Speaker 3: I've seen both the original film and the Secret of

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Speaker 3: the Use, and I know the Ninja wrap by heart.

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Speaker 3: And I had the cassette called Coming Out of Our

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Speaker 3: Shells that was distributed with Domino's pizzas back in the day.

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Speaker 6: But yeah, wow, you did you? Do you remember that

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Speaker 6: Sam Rockwell is in the first Teenage?

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Speaker 3: Yes, that's right. Isn't he in the Foot? Is he

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Speaker 3: in the Foot Clan?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he's like the main sort of like forward facing

546
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Speaker 5: foot guy.

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Speaker 3: He's like Fagan from Oliver He's like recruiting little street

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Speaker 3: urchin kids. Totally. I forgot that.

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Speaker 2: I still stand by that as his greatest work as

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Speaker 2: an act.

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Speaker 3: Oh, absolutely, he.

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Speaker 1: Agrees, he agrees. I think he has gone on record

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Speaker 1: with that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's that. And then Moon Moon would be number

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Speaker 3: two for.

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Speaker 1: Me, distant number two.

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Speaker 3: Agreed.

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Speaker 1: But so we we are going to pause for today's episode.

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Speaker 1: We'll be back with the second part of Weirdest Historical

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Speaker 1: Flexes in the meeting time will forego our usual This

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Speaker 1: is where you can find us on the internet because

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Speaker 1: we did that at the front up front.

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Speaker 3: We still have to thank everybody though, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yes, we want to think of course, our super producer

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Speaker 1: Casey Pegram, Alex Williams, who composed our.

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Speaker 3: Track, Yes, our fabulous research associate Gabe Lucier, our buddy

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Speaker 3: Christopher Hasciotis, who is due for an appearance. I actually

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Speaker 3: had lunch with Christopher of the day and he really

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Speaker 3: misses us and he's so happy to see the show

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Speaker 3: doing well. Whyte me it was in a different city.

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Speaker 3: Ice cold, I'm really sorry. Next time you're an ice

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Speaker 3: cold dude. I am not, man, I'm not. I'm a sweetheart.

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Speaker 3: But we'd also like to thank our incredible guests who

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Speaker 3: are going to stick around if you would, for part

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Speaker 3: two of this kind of anthology episode on Ridiculous History.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, thanks so much for coming. Guys, where can people

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Speaker 1: while they're waiting for this next episode, where can they

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Speaker 1: hear more from you? Miles and Jack?

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Speaker 5: Oh, you can find us every day on this network

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Speaker 5: on our show The Daily Zeitgeist every morning or whenever

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Speaker 5: you want to listen to it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: And if you're interested in social media, I mean you

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Speaker 5: can follow me at Miles of Gray wherever you wherever

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Speaker 5: you get your social media.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and Jack underscore O Brian on Twitter and yes,

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Speaker 4: so much of us you can find so much of

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Speaker 4: us over at the Daily Zeitgeist, wherever find podcasts are

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Speaker 4: given away for free.

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Speaker 3: And I guess we can drop our little social media

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Speaker 3: handles too. I on Instagram at Embryonic Insider you.

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Speaker 1: Can see me get kicked into and out of various

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Speaker 1: countries around the world at Ben Bullen on Instagram. So

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Speaker 1: that's all for now, Everybody run off. I'm gonna hunt.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna hunt some rudents. We're gonna talk about the

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Speaker 1: turtles and maybe rewatch Secret of the Use, and we'll

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Speaker 1: be back very soon.

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