1 00:00:02,200 --> 00:00:07,920 Speaker 1: This is Unbreakable with Jay Glacier, a mental health podcast 2 00:00:08,600 --> 00:00:11,600 Speaker 1: helping you out of the gray and into the blue. 3 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:14,120 Speaker 1: Now here's Jay Glacier. 4 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:18,439 Speaker 2: Welcome into Unbreakable, a mental health podcast with Jay Glazier. 5 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:21,160 Speaker 2: I am Jay Glazier, and our guest today is somebody 6 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:23,960 Speaker 2: who inspires me, will inspire you. But before we get 7 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 2: to them real quick, I feel like many people. You 8 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:28,200 Speaker 2: may be surprised to learn that one in five adults 9 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:31,320 Speaker 2: in this country experienced mental illness last year. You have 10 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:33,960 Speaker 2: far too many failed to receive the support they need. Carolin, 11 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 2: behavioral health is doing something about it. They understand that 12 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 2: behavioral health is a key part of whole health, delivering 13 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:43,960 Speaker 2: compassionate care that treats physical, mental, emotional, and social needs 14 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:44,479 Speaker 2: in tandem. 15 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:48,199 Speaker 3: Carolin, behavioral health raising the quality of life through empathy 16 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:49,520 Speaker 3: and action. 17 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:52,560 Speaker 2: With that, I want to welcome in somebody I've brought 18 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:54,960 Speaker 2: a called friend, somebody I've really bonded with in the 19 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 2: last couple of years, somebody who again, it's inspirational when 20 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 2: you see people over come thins and not just take 21 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:04,760 Speaker 2: the cards that life hands us. We shuffle that deck 22 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 2: on it and deal our own hand after that. But 23 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 2: that Ryan Shays, your former first round pick fifteen pick 24 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 2: of the draft, I believe for the Pittsburgh Steelers from 25 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:15,320 Speaker 2: correct there a couple of time pro bowler as well. 26 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:17,760 Speaker 3: Right, how you doing, man. 27 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 4: I'm doing good. Yay, we're doing good. Thank you for 28 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 4: having me. 29 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:23,480 Speaker 3: Absolutely, man, I'm so grateful to have you on here. 30 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:25,760 Speaker 2: In the last time I saw you, you and I 31 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:26,639 Speaker 2: played golf together. 32 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:30,760 Speaker 3: Yeah we did okay, well, kind of kind of kind of. 33 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 3: You played the whole round I think I had. 34 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 4: Also, we both finished a little bit everybody else. 35 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:40,120 Speaker 2: For people who don't know you, I want you to 36 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:42,760 Speaker 2: explain why you and I playing golf at all. 37 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:44,120 Speaker 3: It is amazing. 38 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 5: The reason that is amazing is just because of what 39 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 5: we've both been through. But I went no, not me, 40 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 5: you what I went through. 41 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 4: Man, it was you know, it was crazy. 42 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 5: I got to play the game that I love, which is, 43 00:01:56,840 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 5: you know, like you said, football, But unfortunately, while playing, 44 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 5: I end up suffering a spina cor injury. And with 45 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 5: that happening, I had to learn how to walk again. 46 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 5: I had to learn how to you know, jog again. 47 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 5: I had to I literally had to learn how to 48 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 5: you know, peel on my own again. So it was 49 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:15,240 Speaker 5: just to learn how to do all the things that 50 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 5: everybody take for granted. That's why it's a blessing to 51 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:19,920 Speaker 5: be able to go out there and hit some golf 52 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 5: balls and be out there with you. 53 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 4: So I stopped not because I'm not. 54 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 5: Not because I'm sorry my son, It's okay. I stopped, 55 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:32,080 Speaker 5: not because my body couldn't take it out. 56 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 2: And for people who are listening and aren't watching, this 57 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 2: reason why we're laughing. 58 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 3: We're not laughing at what happened to Ryan. His son 59 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:39,960 Speaker 3: is kind of making his way into the. 60 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:47,079 Speaker 2: Frame here juice cup, So we're certainly not laughing it 61 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 2: what happened to Ryant. 62 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 3: But hey man, Bore, we can't laugh the better it is, right. 63 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, you're right about that, right, take every blessing for sure. 64 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 3: So you get paralyzed in the game against the Bengals. 65 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 5: The Cincinnati Bengals, and you're four correct. Yeah, it was 66 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 5: my fourth year going into my fifth year. It was 67 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:08,240 Speaker 5: probably I tell people tell me all the time, and 68 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:10,360 Speaker 5: I have a conversation with people all the time. I 69 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:12,919 Speaker 5: was probably like four games away from you know, me 70 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 5: actually reaching that contract, you know, so really yeah, so 71 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 5: it was reaching your incentives no, not even my insentive. 72 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 5: So I was I was a first rounder, so you know, 73 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:25,919 Speaker 5: have the fiftye option. So they put up my fifth 74 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 5: year option. I was here Pro Bowl twice. So the 75 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 5: next thing was meeting in a contract. But we all 76 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 5: start talking about it. Yeah, but it was just you know, 77 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 5: I had a contract extensions. 78 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 3: We're talking about about four reaching that wow. 79 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, so you know, you just you kind of 80 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 5: figured it was just it was definitely a tough moment 81 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 5: for me to just because I've been playing for twenty years. 82 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 4: Then you feel like you're, hey, you can work. 83 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 5: Your whole life for a moment and then you're that 84 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 5: close and then it doesn't happen. So but it's but 85 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 5: I'm gonna be completely honest with you. You know, God that's 86 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 5: names for a reason, and he had a purpose for everything, 87 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 5: and that's that's what I believe. 88 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 4: And I wouldn't be able to talk about the adversity. 89 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 5: That I've overcome and to help people overcome what they've 90 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 5: overcome if I didn't go through what I did. 91 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:14,120 Speaker 2: Did they tell you would never walk again? You did 92 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 2: you didn't take no for an answer, or did they 93 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 2: say there's a chance if you go through something. 94 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 5: So my doctor, the daughter told my wife, which later 95 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 5: on later told me they didn't tell me the right way, 96 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 5: but they. 97 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 4: Said I had less than a twenty percent chance of walking. 98 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 5: And another doctor who's a really good friend of mine, 99 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:32,799 Speaker 5: who who spoke to a really good friend of mine, 100 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:35,840 Speaker 5: heels like, hey, Ryan, uh he told he told him. 101 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:37,919 Speaker 4: He was like, hey, I think you need to be 102 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 4: prepared that Ryan will never walk again. So I had 103 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 4: multiple people tell me what the doctors. I told them. 104 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 4: The doctors don't really tell you, hey, you'll never walk 105 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 4: again or you'll. 106 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 5: Have less chance of walking, because you know if somebody 107 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 5: hears that, that can kind of derail them. But also 108 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 5: you know, if you do learn how to walk again, 109 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 5: doctors don't want people calling back and said I told 110 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 5: you so. 111 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 3: All right, So you made that choice no matter what. 112 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, I made that choice. 113 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 5: When they told me I wasn't gonna walk, I was like, hey, 114 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:10,159 Speaker 5: you said twenty percent chance. Say I'm making it to 115 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 5: the NFL. You got less than a one percent chance 116 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:14,679 Speaker 5: to make it, you know. So I've done some things 117 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:18,360 Speaker 5: in my life that allowed me to know I can 118 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 5: defeat the odd. 119 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:21,040 Speaker 3: I want to go back to when it happened. 120 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 2: So were you conscious and what's going through your mind 121 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:27,720 Speaker 2: when you're down there and you can't move? 122 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:30,159 Speaker 4: Yeah, So I was conscious in the moment, so I 123 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 4: just made it. I made a regular tackle. 124 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 5: It was attackle I probably made thousands of times in 125 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 5: my life. And when I hit, when I hit the receiver, 126 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 5: my legs just dropped in amaw me. It kind of 127 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 5: felt weird, and I just rode over. But I just 128 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 5: couldn't feel anything for my weight down. So they kept 129 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:48,679 Speaker 5: trying to touch me and if I hate you for LinkedIn, 130 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:51,679 Speaker 5: and I told them unfortunately, I think I couldn't feel anything. 131 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 5: But I was still pretty positive minded. I kind of 132 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 5: I tell myself all the time. 133 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 4: I was probably into denial a little bit because when 134 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 4: I was to the doctor, I kept asking, like, how 135 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:03,720 Speaker 4: how soon do you think I'll be back? How soon 136 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:04,560 Speaker 4: do you think I'll be back? 137 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:06,360 Speaker 5: Because it was more of a I thought it was 138 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:08,600 Speaker 5: going to be something very similar to a stinger, you know, 139 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:10,840 Speaker 5: like you and your stinger. If you hear somebody, your 140 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 5: on goes men for a bit and then it comes back. 141 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 5: And that's kind of the idea that I had when 142 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:18,479 Speaker 5: I was going through what I was going. 143 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:20,840 Speaker 3: Through when did you realize, Okay, it's not a stinger, 144 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 3: and how'd you cope with it? 145 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:25,040 Speaker 5: So it to me about a week and some change, 146 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:27,280 Speaker 5: because then I like, as I was in the hospital, 147 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:30,280 Speaker 5: I was still I had a surgery, and I was like, 148 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:32,160 Speaker 5: all right, yeah, man, this is you know, it's pretty bad. 149 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 5: And then I knew things aren't going to turn around fast. 150 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:39,599 Speaker 5: When one moment I was in the hospital and my 151 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 5: god brother was at the hospital with me, and he 152 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 5: was just sitting almost as close to my screen to 153 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:49,599 Speaker 5: like your screen is to you. And I was in 154 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 5: the hospital bed and you know how they have their 155 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:52,720 Speaker 5: rails on the bed so you don't fall out of 156 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:56,680 Speaker 5: the bed. And I wasn't feeling good that day. I 157 00:06:56,760 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 5: don't know if I had some type of infection, but 158 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:01,160 Speaker 5: I wasn't feeling well. And I end up throwing up, 159 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 5: but it hit the rail of the bed, but I 160 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 5: was so close to the bed real that it hit 161 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 5: the rail and it hit me. 162 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:07,919 Speaker 4: Back in my face. 163 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 5: And when that happened, like, because if you're throwing up, 164 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 5: you're trying to at least move out of the way. 165 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 5: I wasn't able to move myself out of way, and 166 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 5: I was like, yeah, Ryan, You're like you're like, you're 167 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 5: not taking this as serious as you probably think. It is, 168 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 5: like this is your hurt way worse than you're assuming 169 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 5: you're hurt. And after that moment, I kind of like 170 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 5: a light switch flipped on and I was like, Okay, Ryan, 171 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 5: it's not like you need to really get to work. 172 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 4: You need to really. 173 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 5: Change your mindset and get ready to get get out 174 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 5: there because if you don't attack this right. 175 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 4: Now, you're probably never gonna walk again. 176 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 5: So I that was the last time I've been told myself, hey, 177 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 5: you probably never walked again, Because from that moment on, 178 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 5: I was like, I don't care when nobody else is 179 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 5: telling me I'm gonna walk, I'm gonna play football, I'm 180 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 5: gonna be back on my feet. 181 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 2: How are you able to process that in your own 182 00:07:56,440 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 2: mind say hey, I'm just gonna make the decision go 183 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 2: for it instead of falling in to a deep dark 184 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 2: depression or did you do both? 185 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:03,280 Speaker 4: So? 186 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 5: I don't think I really fell into a deep art 187 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 5: depressure because I was just so laser focused on getting better. 188 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 5: So every every day I would just get better, get better, 189 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 5: and then I would do things to help me cope 190 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 5: so like I ended up having like my Xbox in 191 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 5: the hospital, Like I had books in the hospital. My 192 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 5: wife actually slept in the room with me, and which 193 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 5: was crazy. They actually allowed her to stay there with 194 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 5: me and she was my fiance at the time. And 195 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 5: then I will always have people visiting me. So when 196 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 5: like my teammates would visit me, my like they would 197 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:35,200 Speaker 5: have meetings that the linebackers would have meetings sometime after 198 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:38,840 Speaker 5: the day in the in the hospital with me and 199 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:40,840 Speaker 5: keep me in a loop. So it's like I always 200 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 5: had people around me that I was always really comfortable with, 201 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 5: that I was always really close with. So it made 202 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 5: me want to be able. It made it really easy 203 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:52,199 Speaker 5: for me to try to release stress and be able to. 204 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:52,840 Speaker 4: Talk to people. 205 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 5: So I was just so focused and they always want 206 00:08:56,559 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 5: They always motivated me. So like I would do rehab 207 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:01,560 Speaker 5: and rehab I can barely walk, but they was like here, 208 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 5: come on, Ryan, come on, Ryan, come on, you got it, 209 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:05,079 Speaker 5: you got it. So it was just like having people 210 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 5: that did that for me. It made me feel really good. 211 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 4: But I would do that for a while, then every 212 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:13,320 Speaker 4: day I would just start to get better and better. 213 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:15,439 Speaker 5: And then the days when I did feel a little 214 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 5: down or a little sad. Because I'm a very uplifted person. 215 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 5: I'm a very positive person. My family would just do 216 00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:24,199 Speaker 5: a really good job of just giving me that positivity 217 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:26,120 Speaker 5: for that day I need it. So if I was down, 218 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:28,319 Speaker 5: like today, if I'm having a bad day to day, 219 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:30,720 Speaker 5: my wife would come in and you know, like play 220 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 5: around or do something that would like lift me up. 221 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:33,439 Speaker 4: A little bit. 222 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 5: They then just to kind of get me back on 223 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 5: my feet. But then every other day I'm back the same. 224 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 5: Like my wife hates it because like me and her 225 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:44,440 Speaker 5: can yell at each other and like five minutes later, 226 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 5: I'm like, hey, you very you want to like like 227 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 5: trying to jump around with her, and You're like, no, 228 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 5: I'm still managing. That's so like that's how I am 229 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 5: every single day. So when I have bad days, they 230 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:56,199 Speaker 5: knew how to lift me back up. It just helped 231 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 5: me push on and like, hey, right, keep going because 232 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 5: this is the goals that you want to set, this 233 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 5: is where you want to be, And it really helped 234 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 5: me kind of not get into that dark place in 235 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 5: the first few years. 236 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:08,560 Speaker 2: I think the most amazing thing, man is that I 237 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 2: guess it wasn't that much longer. A year and a 238 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 2: half later, you told me the timeline, but you actually 239 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 2: danced at your own wedding with it. 240 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, so theyeh a year and a half later, so well, 241 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 5: so it was crazy. 242 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 4: Yeah. 243 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:22,320 Speaker 5: What was crazy was I got hurt at twenty seventeen. 244 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 5: Me and Michelle was going to get married at twenty 245 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:27,920 Speaker 5: eighteen in Miami. But then, obviously I was going through 246 00:10:27,960 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 5: so much stuff at that time, I was like, hey, 247 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 5: let's push the wedding back the year. 248 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 4: So we pushed it back the year. And because I. 249 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:35,679 Speaker 5: Told myself, I don't want to be I don't want 250 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 5: to have a wheelchair and my wedding pictures. 251 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:39,840 Speaker 4: I don't want to be walking around in the cane 252 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 4: and my wedding pictures. So I just made sure. I 253 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 4: told myself, I'm going to get better. 254 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 5: I'm going to walk again, I'm going to be able 255 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:48,839 Speaker 5: to play with my kids outside. I'm going to be 256 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 5: able to help my kids. That's the that's the things 257 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 5: that I wanted to do. 258 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:52,880 Speaker 4: You know. 259 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 5: I also was trying to come back and play football again. 260 00:10:55,520 --> 00:10:57,719 Speaker 5: So those are the things that I wanted to do. 261 00:10:57,800 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 5: So I just I pushed all the things that I 262 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:03,320 Speaker 5: felt were important but not as important as the goal 263 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:05,600 Speaker 5: that I set for myself at that moment, and I 264 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:07,880 Speaker 5: was able to achieve them and able to be them. 265 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 2: What can you teach the rest of us and how 266 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 2: you're able to stay positive throughout all this besides your look, 267 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:16,319 Speaker 2: I love you have your teammate Yah, but it's it 268 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 2: still comes down to what's. 269 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 3: Between your ears, behind your rip caage. What did you 270 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 3: learn through that process? 271 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:24,559 Speaker 4: I think the biggest thing about what I learned through 272 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 4: that process is that you know the the mind is, 273 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 4: you know, the strongest muscle. 274 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:32,319 Speaker 5: You know, your brain is the strongest muscle and whatever 275 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 5: you feed into it, and that's what's going to happen. 276 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:37,840 Speaker 5: So to me, I always felt if I'm thinking positive, 277 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 5: I think that a. 278 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 4: Certain way is going to happen. I've never heard anybody 279 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:45,080 Speaker 4: that say, like Jay, imagine the whole time you're trying 280 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 4: to get into the media, the whole time you're telling yourself, oh, man, 281 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 4: I suck. I can't do this, I can't do this. 282 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 4: I'm never gonna make it. I can't do this. It's 283 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 4: not going to happen. 284 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 5: I don't know anybody that kept telling themselves that they 285 00:11:56,840 --> 00:11:58,840 Speaker 5: can't do something and end up being good at it, 286 00:11:59,200 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 5: you know. 287 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 4: So that's kind of my mind set. 288 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:03,720 Speaker 5: It was like, hey, if I feed myself and tell myself, hey, Ryan, 289 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 5: you're going to get better, You're going to walk again, 290 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:08,160 Speaker 5: but actually put that work into doing it, actually set 291 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:12,080 Speaker 5: up a plan and a process to doing it, it's possible. 292 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 5: And I think that's what That's what a lot of 293 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:17,080 Speaker 5: people they allow their minds to speak, that they allow 294 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 5: themselves to speak to negative talks to themselves, which will 295 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:22,960 Speaker 5: make it really difficult for you actually to get to 296 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 5: where you want to go. 297 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:25,960 Speaker 4: So I just always really positive to my team. 298 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 5: And then when I had days when I was down, 299 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 5: I'm sad or upset, and I was like, man, I 300 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:32,320 Speaker 5: can't do this today. My wife was like, yep, that's 301 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 5: not Ryan today. I don't like that energy. And she 302 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:36,760 Speaker 5: was like, hey, you got this. You said you want 303 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 5: to walk again. You said you want to make it 304 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 5: to the NFL again. Because everybody's gonna have bad days, 305 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:42,960 Speaker 5: you want to have down days. But I just felt 306 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 5: like when I had those down days that I immediately 307 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 5: told somebody and they helped me reset it to get 308 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:49,600 Speaker 5: back on track. 309 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 2: And that's what a lot of us don't do we 310 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 2: find ourselves where we think I don't want to be 311 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 2: burdened to anybody or something like that. But the more 312 00:12:56,040 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 2: we can open up to our teammates or family help 313 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:00,600 Speaker 2: us just want a way step away. 314 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:04,640 Speaker 3: It's one inch away, it's one yard away, go away. 315 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 4: Right about that. 316 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 5: And I think a lot of people fail to realize 317 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:10,280 Speaker 5: that so many people are just so scared to, you know, 318 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 5: call somebody, so scared to be a burden to somebody 319 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:16,440 Speaker 5: at the end of the day. I remember I actually 320 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:19,720 Speaker 5: went to a friend of my house and his son 321 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:22,199 Speaker 5: ended up messing his leg up playing basketball. But he 322 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 5: was in college, and his dad was like, hey, like 323 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:28,120 Speaker 5: call call some of your friends to take you to 324 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:28,560 Speaker 5: the hospital. 325 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 4: He was like, man, I don't want to bother them 326 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:32,439 Speaker 4: there at dinner. And the dad said, if they're your friends, 327 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:35,640 Speaker 4: they're gonna be happy that you called because they want 328 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:37,200 Speaker 4: to make sure you are right. He was like, they'll 329 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:38,719 Speaker 4: stop what they're doing to take you out to you. 330 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 5: I was like, man, you're right, Like, if somebody really 331 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:43,520 Speaker 5: cares about you, if it's important enough, you're not a burden. 332 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:45,760 Speaker 3: The first time I opened up to my friends, it 333 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:47,199 Speaker 3: was a couple of years ago. At the super Bowl. 334 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 2: I call Rendez Barber and two of her other friends, 335 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 2: our little crew down Tampa. We go down the Tampa 336 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 2: Super Bowl and I said, hey, man, let's let's have 337 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 2: dinner down and the ceyes tonight. 338 00:13:56,720 --> 00:13:58,560 Speaker 3: They're all said, now, we're busy. I said, no, no, 339 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:00,599 Speaker 3: I need to see you guys tonight. I'm struggling. 340 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:03,680 Speaker 2: And they said, oh, okay, well all right, we're there. 341 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:05,719 Speaker 2: Every one of them. They were there. And then when 342 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:08,560 Speaker 2: I told them, two of them said, oh man, I'm 343 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:10,199 Speaker 2: struggling too. I just I didn't know how to talk 344 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 2: about it. That's one of the things I'm trying to 345 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 2: do with this podcast and with my book and Brinkles, 346 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:16,080 Speaker 2: trying to give it words so we can have this 347 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:18,880 Speaker 2: conversation to get people to understand your people will be 348 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 2: there for you, same exact message that you just had. 349 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 4: Right. 350 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 5: That's what a lot of people fail to realize. They 351 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 5: feel like they're a burden, they feel like they're a 352 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 5: house on somebody. But if you tell somebody, hey, like 353 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 5: I really need you right now, like this was really 354 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 5: important to me, Like I need somebody I can lean 355 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:37,120 Speaker 5: on one hundred If somebody's your friend, they're going to 356 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 5: stop what they're doing, and they're going to be there 357 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 5: for me. 358 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:41,360 Speaker 3: I try and tell people all the time, don't try 359 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 3: and figure your life out. They'll drive you crazy. 360 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:46,360 Speaker 2: I don't know why good things happen to bad people, 361 00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:48,440 Speaker 2: and there are people who are doing bad things. 362 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 3: I don't know why bad things happen to good people. 363 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 2: No idea why, And let's not try and figure it out. 364 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:55,520 Speaker 2: How much would you have to wrestle with yourself? 365 00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 4: Oh? Why be so? 366 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 5: I'd actually didn't wrestle on myself with as much because 367 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 5: I had read a book recently and it was I 368 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:07,520 Speaker 5: think it was called like Seven Things Successful People Do, 369 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 5: but it was it's more of a story, and it 370 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:13,440 Speaker 5: just told me the things that happened throughout the success. 371 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 5: And one of the things that was in the book, 372 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 5: and I read this when I was injured, it said 373 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 5: a lot of people asked why me. That means you're 374 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 5: basically saying why why me? So you're basically saying why not? 375 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 4: Jay? You know what I'm saying. So it's you know, 376 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 4: and most people don't. 377 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 5: Think about it like that. So then but in the 378 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:35,240 Speaker 5: book it said why not me? Why not be the 379 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:37,160 Speaker 5: person that makes a difference? Why not be the person 380 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 5: that makes a change. And that's kind of how I 381 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:43,040 Speaker 5: started actually leaned into that. So instead of actually, oh, 382 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:45,960 Speaker 5: why me, I was more it was more why not me? 383 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:48,480 Speaker 5: Like God fit me here for a purpose. A lot 384 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 5: of people say if it was in my position, they 385 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 5: would have gave up. I didn't give up. Now I'm 386 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:55,160 Speaker 5: showing people that they can overcome. So actually, when I 387 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:57,080 Speaker 5: was going through this whole process, I actually had a 388 00:15:57,120 --> 00:15:58,840 Speaker 5: call from me to talk with my dad in the 389 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 5: car one day and I was actually I cried a 390 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 5: little bit about it because everybody's like, man, Ryan, you're 391 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 5: so you're such an inspiration. Man, you inspired me so much. 392 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 5: And I asked my dad was like, man, what's the inspiration? Like, 393 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:10,200 Speaker 5: what's the obviously I know what the definition of inspiration there, 394 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:13,040 Speaker 5: but that what's the inspiration? Because people always tell me, Ryan, 395 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 5: your inspiration to me that I was like, I'm just 396 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:17,800 Speaker 5: out here trying to like get better every single day. 397 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 5: I'm just trying to live my best life. 398 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:21,600 Speaker 4: I'm just trying to every day, I'm just trying to 399 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 4: get back to where I want to be. 400 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:25,360 Speaker 5: And he was just like, Ryan, the fact that you're 401 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 5: doing that and not giving up on yourself. That's what 402 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 5: inspires people. 403 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 4: And then I was like, oh man, you know, so 404 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 4: it's just to be out. Yeah, it gives people hope. 405 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:36,760 Speaker 5: And uh but I just felt like this having you know, 406 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 5: my family and people around me, like people like you 407 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 5: j and just my friends. When I feel like I 408 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:44,560 Speaker 5: have somebody I trust, I open up to him and 409 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:46,000 Speaker 5: let them know what's going on. 410 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:48,320 Speaker 4: Because if you don't have people around that you can't 411 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 4: open up to. Man. I feel it's a really tough 412 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:51,840 Speaker 4: life all here to live, right. 413 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 2: We don't have to have the Pittsburgh Steelers be your team, 414 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:57,280 Speaker 2: like your team right, part of your teammates, but the 415 00:16:57,400 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 2: teammates everywhere for us, and we got to lean into 416 00:16:59,240 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 2: them nuts. 417 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 3: That's one of the ways we can we can fight back. 418 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:05,480 Speaker 3: We got to walk this walk together in your journey back. 419 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:09,600 Speaker 2: What's been the one thing that you've done where you're like, damn, Ron, 420 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:12,400 Speaker 2: I can't believe you did that, Like it inspired you. 421 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 4: Oh man. 422 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 5: So some of the things that I've done was like 423 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:20,439 Speaker 5: when I was able to box jump the game, you know, 424 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 5: I think at the height of my recovery, when I 425 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:27,080 Speaker 5: was like rehabbing every single day in the midst of 426 00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 5: trying to become you know, play in an nfl A game, 427 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:32,200 Speaker 5: I had box jump and it was like thirty thirty 428 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:35,200 Speaker 5: eight or thirty six or something like that. Really, so yeah, 429 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:37,200 Speaker 5: and I wasn't even all the way one hundred percent 430 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 5: healthy yet. And my therapist was like, he's like, man, Ryan, 431 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:41,960 Speaker 5: just even the fact that you can do this and 432 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:44,679 Speaker 5: you're not even one hundred percent. He's like, this is 433 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:48,119 Speaker 5: crazy to me because this thing that's so funny is 434 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:48,879 Speaker 5: like my wife tried. 435 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:50,399 Speaker 4: To do the same thing and she couldn't even do it, 436 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:50,960 Speaker 4: you know. 437 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 5: So like just some of the things that when it 438 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 5: came to working out and just showing what type of 439 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 5: athlete I was before I got injured, and how I 440 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:01,360 Speaker 5: was very close to the back to that same time, 441 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:03,880 Speaker 5: just some of the like workout things I would be 442 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:06,200 Speaker 5: being able to get back to looking in some heavy weight, 443 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:09,440 Speaker 5: being able to do some boxy jumps, you know. And 444 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:12,199 Speaker 5: and to me, it's just the fact that I remember 445 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:14,960 Speaker 5: to this day when I couldn't even. 446 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:15,480 Speaker 4: Move my leg. 447 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:17,679 Speaker 5: I remember I had I have a video on my 448 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:20,440 Speaker 5: phone on the first day I moved my leg and 449 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:23,880 Speaker 5: like now I just walked up and down and ran 450 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:25,840 Speaker 5: up and down my stairs really fast so I could 451 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:26,639 Speaker 5: get something out. 452 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:27,040 Speaker 4: Of the kitchen. 453 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:30,240 Speaker 5: It's crazy to me, like just getting back to the 454 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:32,879 Speaker 5: simple thing that a lot of people failed to realize. 455 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 5: That's that's the thing that I'm just really appreciative of it. 456 00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:38,800 Speaker 3: But it also goes to show and I want every 457 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:39,960 Speaker 3: athlete out there listening. 458 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:42,480 Speaker 2: I want everybody you know who's gone through professional sports, 459 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:45,160 Speaker 2: because I helped a lot of guys in transition after 460 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 2: they retired from NFL obviously from from mixed martial arts. 461 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:54,359 Speaker 2: Olympians would hold different different sports, uh, Baseball, basketball, hockey, everything. 462 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:56,639 Speaker 2: I always tell people like you, playing in the NFL 463 00:18:57,119 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 2: is not who you are. What's behind your ribcage. I 464 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 2: got you beat out millions and millions and millions to 465 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:03,320 Speaker 2: be on that level. 466 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:06,520 Speaker 3: That's where you are that suddenly doesn't just leave when 467 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:10,120 Speaker 3: the uniform comes off. You have shown that right, you. 468 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:12,040 Speaker 2: Still have that same thing behind your ribcakes to get 469 00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:15,919 Speaker 2: you to do incredible, incredible things. And that's what's so 470 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:17,480 Speaker 2: important to have a team around you to remind you 471 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:18,439 Speaker 2: of what your greatness is. 472 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:21,200 Speaker 3: It's not that uniform and it's you. It's what's behind 473 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:22,280 Speaker 3: your roop Gakes. It's special. 474 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 5: Now, You're one hundred percent right. It's so crazy when 475 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:29,640 Speaker 5: guys leave the game, they forget what it all took 476 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:32,359 Speaker 5: to get there. Yeah, you know, and if we just 477 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:34,960 Speaker 5: pour it back into that when it comes to rehabbing, 478 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:37,520 Speaker 5: when it comes to you know, a business, when it 479 00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 5: comes to just living life outside of the game, we just. 480 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 4: Have to pour into it, like we port into trying. 481 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:45,760 Speaker 5: To big into the NFL agame and those things are 482 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:46,359 Speaker 5: happening for us. 483 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:47,720 Speaker 4: And that's what I did. 484 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:50,800 Speaker 5: I just poured into everything that I had in me 485 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:53,719 Speaker 5: to you know, play in the NFL. And I just 486 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:57,400 Speaker 5: poured all that and to try to play again and try. 487 00:19:57,240 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 4: To walk again. And I was able to do something. 488 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:02,560 Speaker 2: You know, we just had the NFL draft recently, or drafts, 489 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:04,280 Speaker 2: super Bowls, training camps, things like that. 490 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:06,200 Speaker 3: Are they hard for you to see? 491 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:10,119 Speaker 5: Like the hardest moment for me, honestly, it's probably like 492 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:11,920 Speaker 5: a year and a half, two years after I got hurt, 493 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:15,200 Speaker 5: when everybody that I got drafted with was starting to 494 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 5: get paid. And I love and I love football to death, 495 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 5: Like I wasn't playing for money, but it was just 496 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 5: kind of seeing like, oh, guys that I was very 497 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 5: similar to better or worse. Then they were like, you know, 498 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 5: starting to like, hey, I fulfill the dream of making 499 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:33,439 Speaker 5: the NFL, then now I can take it to my 500 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:35,120 Speaker 5: family forever type. 501 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:37,520 Speaker 4: Of thing, so like that, I'm gonna be honest. 502 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:38,960 Speaker 5: I was probably one of the toughest things for me 503 00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 5: because like, oh, man, like I was four games away, 504 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 5: you know, but at the end of the day, life 505 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:47,160 Speaker 5: isn't about money, you know. So that's the one thing 506 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:49,440 Speaker 5: that it made it like as I. 507 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:52,680 Speaker 4: Continue to get older and allowed me to mentally get 508 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:55,720 Speaker 4: in the right space and understand that, hey, Ryan, your 509 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 4: family's good. Ryan, you have what two wonderful kids, a wonderful. 510 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 5: Wife, and how to transition into what I'm doing now. 511 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:05,240 Speaker 5: But that was probably one of the toughest things for me, 512 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:08,919 Speaker 5: Like just because the draft not as much. Sometimes I 513 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:11,720 Speaker 5: will watch a game here and there and I would 514 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:15,960 Speaker 5: just watch somebody play, Like I remember this was initially 515 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:17,960 Speaker 5: right when I got hurt, But I remember watching k 516 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:22,040 Speaker 5: Rokwan Smith when he was at Georgia before, and the 517 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:23,880 Speaker 5: way he was playing it kind of made me cry 518 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:26,159 Speaker 5: because I was like, man, I was, you know, just 519 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:28,359 Speaker 5: watching him play. It was very similar to how I 520 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:32,080 Speaker 5: felt like I played, but to this day not not anymore. 521 00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:34,320 Speaker 5: But those were it was a lot closer to the 522 00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:35,159 Speaker 5: moment than it is. 523 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:35,400 Speaker 4: Now. 524 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:37,880 Speaker 3: What you're doing is way more. 525 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:40,359 Speaker 2: And I know what people go, Oh easy for you 526 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:43,800 Speaker 2: to say to Jay. You know, money is money in 527 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:47,080 Speaker 2: certain ways. You can pay your bills, but man, our 528 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:48,480 Speaker 2: wilds are not antidepressants. 529 00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:50,119 Speaker 3: But what you're doing, like the people that you're helping, 530 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:53,959 Speaker 3: that's your equity forever. That makes your wealthy, Matt, Yeah, right, 531 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:55,479 Speaker 3: and that's where you got to remind yourself of all 532 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:55,800 Speaker 3: the time. 533 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, And that's and that's the one thing that I 534 00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:00,639 Speaker 5: actually I'm happy that I have the fun and the 535 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:04,000 Speaker 5: laws that were changing with my foundation and just to 536 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:06,119 Speaker 5: be able to just support to people, to understand and 537 00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:09,840 Speaker 5: help them overcome. So like you were saying, like to 538 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 5: be able to pour into people and the legacy that 539 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:14,960 Speaker 5: you lead to me is there, Like you said, is 540 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 5: the equity that I'm growing compared to this, you know, 541 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:19,439 Speaker 5: having dollars in my pocket. 542 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:23,120 Speaker 3: And I understand you Also you're starting a business something 543 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:25,280 Speaker 3: that helped you to get through a lot of the 544 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:27,480 Speaker 3: mental hurdles and struggles. Fill me in on that. 545 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:32,480 Speaker 5: Yeah, So I actually have a strand of medical marijuana 546 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:37,159 Speaker 5: here in Pennsylvania that we have. So Pennsylvania is a 547 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:40,760 Speaker 5: medical state. State is not a recreational state. So we 548 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:43,840 Speaker 5: have a medical strand here. When it's called Shalin, when 549 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:46,800 Speaker 5: it's called walking Miracles, when it's called speed, and want 550 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 5: to just called branches fifty. 551 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:52,280 Speaker 4: And I wanted to be able to partner with a 552 00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:55,040 Speaker 4: company here named organ and Remedies because it's just the 553 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 4: quality of medical grade and I want them they have. 554 00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:00,640 Speaker 5: But also they also helped me when I was going 555 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:02,800 Speaker 5: through my injury. So when I was going through my injury, 556 00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:05,320 Speaker 5: sometimes I would be depressed. Sometimes I would have some 557 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:09,080 Speaker 5: pain that I deal with. And just through my family history, 558 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:12,880 Speaker 5: I have people that have been addicted to alcohols and 559 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 5: you know, different types of drugs and things like that. 560 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:20,479 Speaker 5: So I never wanted to be someone that got really 561 00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:23,199 Speaker 5: that used opioids a like. I never wanted to be 562 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:25,159 Speaker 5: something I didn't. I never wanted to use them a lot. 563 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:29,280 Speaker 5: So I leaned more into medical marijuana and they helped. 564 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:29,600 Speaker 4: Me out a lot. 565 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:31,439 Speaker 5: It helped me in my back pain, They helped me 566 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:34,640 Speaker 5: when it came to sometimes when I was depressed or sad. 567 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 4: It just allowed me to just get a little bit 568 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:41,240 Speaker 4: of relief. So I recently partnered with the. 569 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:44,280 Speaker 5: Company here or Gaining Remedies and throughout the whole state 570 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:46,600 Speaker 5: of Pennsylvania we're helping it. 571 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:50,040 Speaker 2: How do you originally who did the doctors originally give 572 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:52,359 Speaker 2: you or or front originally give you? 573 00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:52,399 Speaker 4: No? 574 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:54,720 Speaker 5: So the way it worked is I have a really 575 00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:58,200 Speaker 5: good friend of mine. He's a pharmacist and he's kind 576 00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 5: of in the medical space. And I had a friend, 577 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:02,600 Speaker 5: he was my friend before I even got hurt, and 578 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:03,600 Speaker 5: I just talked to him. 579 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:05,680 Speaker 4: I was like, man, I don't have a medical. 580 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:07,200 Speaker 5: Card because you can't just have a medical card planning 581 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:09,600 Speaker 5: in the NFL, So I don't have a medical card. 582 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:12,560 Speaker 5: I kind of want to, you know, try you know, 583 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:16,120 Speaker 5: medical marijuana instead of just you know, using some opioids 584 00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:17,240 Speaker 5: while I'm getting on my view. 585 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:20,240 Speaker 4: So he connected me with again remedies. 586 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 5: I end up getting a medical card while I was injured, 587 00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:25,359 Speaker 5: and then it kind of went on from now. I 588 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 5: was using the product for a while and then we 589 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:29,600 Speaker 5: just you know, talked together and it was like, Hey, 590 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:31,320 Speaker 5: I think it might be a good idea, but we 591 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:34,560 Speaker 5: can release a strand here in Pennsylvania that can help 592 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:36,879 Speaker 5: out people and then hopefully, you know, we can kind. 593 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:40,040 Speaker 4: Of grow it across the country. But the one thing 594 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:42,159 Speaker 4: I really like about it is like we even had to. 595 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 5: Pop up in four twenty and you know, people actually 596 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:46,960 Speaker 5: came to me like, Heyline, you don't understand how much 597 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:47,760 Speaker 5: your strands or. 598 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:51,120 Speaker 4: Changing my life, how much I'm benefit from coming tom. 599 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:54,399 Speaker 5: So it's been it's been greaty and I'm happy that 600 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:56,399 Speaker 5: I was able to release boy I. 601 00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:57,840 Speaker 3: Let you go. Two more questions. 602 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:01,280 Speaker 2: Give me the one moment that someone's come to you 603 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:04,800 Speaker 2: and said, man, you said me, you changed me by 604 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:07,080 Speaker 2: something I heard you say or something I've seen you 605 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 2: do that it's really stuck with you. 606 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:09,800 Speaker 3: Man. 607 00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:13,359 Speaker 5: It's so crazy because like sometimes people would come to 608 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 5: me and you know, like I was in Dallas yesterday 609 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:18,240 Speaker 5: and somebody would come to me and like, hey, man, 610 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:20,920 Speaker 5: are you Ryan, And I'm like yeah, and it's like, man, 611 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:24,400 Speaker 5: you're such a great player. So like I'll get that sometimes. 612 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:26,920 Speaker 5: And then sometimes people are just come to me randomly, 613 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:30,760 Speaker 5: like Ryan, you don't understand how much you are inspirational 614 00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:33,199 Speaker 5: to me about family, Like it was one day I 615 00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:35,800 Speaker 5: was actually committed, like thinking about committing suicide, and just 616 00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:39,400 Speaker 5: the way that you fought back and the way that 617 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:42,480 Speaker 5: you just kept pushing. I read your book and it 618 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:44,320 Speaker 5: made me want to keep pushing. I just want to 619 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:46,879 Speaker 5: say thank you. And so when people come to me 620 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:51,080 Speaker 5: with information like that, sometimes to me, I'm like, oh 621 00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:52,440 Speaker 5: my gosh, I can't believe that. 622 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:54,840 Speaker 4: I was able to change this personal life. And I 623 00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:56,040 Speaker 4: don't even know who that person is. 624 00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:59,200 Speaker 5: So it's to me, it's just so crazy how God 625 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:02,639 Speaker 5: works and mysterious ways. And that's probably one of the 626 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:06,200 Speaker 5: one of the times when somebody's came to be and said, 627 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:08,800 Speaker 5: what I've done is really help changing the line and. 628 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 2: That person that you say and the people you say, 629 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:12,560 Speaker 2: you don't know what they've done. They may have helped others, 630 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 2: they may have saved others, they make cure disease one day, 631 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:17,480 Speaker 2: like you have no idea the ripple effect of the 632 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:18,200 Speaker 2: good that you're doing. 633 00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:21,840 Speaker 4: Right, Yes, sir, So last question. 634 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:24,359 Speaker 2: Here, and I ask all my guest this, and you 635 00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:27,680 Speaker 2: may have already said it, but give me your unbreakable moment. 636 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:29,160 Speaker 3: Am I have been during that process? 637 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:31,720 Speaker 2: Give me your unbreakable moment something that really should have 638 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:35,640 Speaker 2: broken you during the process or another part in your life, 639 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:37,800 Speaker 2: and as a result, you came through the other side 640 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:39,960 Speaker 2: of that tunnel stronger, and you've been able to use 641 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 2: that for your rest of your life. 642 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:44,320 Speaker 4: I would just say, going through this spinal cord injury, 643 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:46,719 Speaker 4: I always say that would be my unbreakable moment because 644 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:49,960 Speaker 4: I actually I have something every week day. 645 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:52,800 Speaker 5: It's called Ryan Toime. So Ryan Tom, I'll go on 646 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:55,119 Speaker 5: to zoom like we're on right now, and I was 647 00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:57,760 Speaker 5: spending about it depends on how long the person want 648 00:26:57,760 --> 00:26:59,959 Speaker 5: to tall. You could be I've had five minutes talk 649 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:02,720 Speaker 5: and I've had an hour and thirty minute talks. And 650 00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:05,159 Speaker 5: the reason I'm gonna say that is because it's based off. 651 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:07,760 Speaker 4: Talking to the person. And I was, who were the 652 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:10,240 Speaker 4: people people that have spina corp injuries? 653 00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:11,600 Speaker 3: Oh wait really? 654 00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:12,280 Speaker 4: Yeah? 655 00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:13,800 Speaker 3: How did they get in touch with you? You get in 656 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:14,320 Speaker 3: touch with them. 657 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:17,360 Speaker 4: So my fund has we have something called Ryan Time. 658 00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:19,879 Speaker 5: People can get set up through my website on the 659 00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:22,920 Speaker 5: Ryan Shazeer fund dot org and set up for Ryan Time. 660 00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:24,520 Speaker 3: It's the coolest thing I ever heard. 661 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:26,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, why do I not know this? 662 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 3: Good? 663 00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:29,480 Speaker 4: And we'll do it. We'll do it every Thursday. 664 00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:32,320 Speaker 5: And the one thing and the reason I said it 665 00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:35,399 Speaker 5: appears on the person because I've talked to somebody before 666 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:39,320 Speaker 5: and they were just so shut down and I was 667 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:40,879 Speaker 5: trying to talk to them, but it was just like 668 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 5: I'm not I'm not having a good day. And for 669 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:45,040 Speaker 5: some reason they didn't know, they didn't believe that I 670 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:45,920 Speaker 5: was Ryan Shavier. 671 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:48,160 Speaker 4: So it was like five minutes. It was like five minutes. 672 00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:51,480 Speaker 4: I was like, all right, cool, But but I've also 673 00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:52,359 Speaker 4: been on other ones. 674 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 3: You're Ai Ryan a Sun. 675 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:58,520 Speaker 4: I don't. I don't literally like this, I don't know what. 676 00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:00,359 Speaker 4: I don't know what happened. I had to just in 677 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:03,040 Speaker 4: the background. I don't know what happened. 678 00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:05,600 Speaker 5: But uh, but then I'll talk to other people and 679 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:09,520 Speaker 5: some people you can see how mentally having a spinna 680 00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:13,320 Speaker 5: core injury is breaking them and and I try to 681 00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:15,320 Speaker 5: talk to them to try to motivate a lot of 682 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:19,520 Speaker 5: people to overcome our individuals that are very positive, people 683 00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:22,880 Speaker 5: that are doing well, just to keep them going. And 684 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:26,240 Speaker 5: to me, I think just having a spinna cor injury 685 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:27,720 Speaker 5: and be able to talk to people or how to 686 00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:30,720 Speaker 5: overcome it, that's that's my unbreakable moment. Because I talked 687 00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:33,560 Speaker 5: to a lot of people and Jay I remember talking 688 00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:36,000 Speaker 5: to this one lady and it's so sad. It makes 689 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:38,800 Speaker 5: me really sad. But I went to her hospital. Normally 690 00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:40,520 Speaker 5: I would just do a zooms call, but I went 691 00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:42,600 Speaker 5: to a hospital. I was like, hey, man, you know 692 00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:44,880 Speaker 5: you have a family left or man, you got to 693 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:47,720 Speaker 5: keep pushing. I know it's tough, like just trying to 694 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:50,520 Speaker 5: motivate her, and she was like, I just don't want 695 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:52,280 Speaker 5: to be here. I don't want to be here, Jay, 696 00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:54,280 Speaker 5: I promise you. She was around your age. She ended 697 00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:58,440 Speaker 5: up killing herself because because but she killed herself by 698 00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:02,320 Speaker 5: just like self doubt, Like she didn't like commit suicide. 699 00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:05,240 Speaker 5: She just like it was just like her her mental 700 00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:07,400 Speaker 5: was so bad that it was like I don't want 701 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:08,160 Speaker 5: to be here no more. 702 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:10,320 Speaker 4: And that's when it ended up happening. And to me, 703 00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:11,520 Speaker 4: it's just a really sad moment. 704 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:15,200 Speaker 5: And I just think that, you know, people need to 705 00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:18,240 Speaker 5: understand that, hey, your mind can, hey do really good 706 00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:20,560 Speaker 5: for you and allow you to reach these really hot places, 707 00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:23,520 Speaker 5: but it also can can tear you down. And I 708 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:26,520 Speaker 5: just want people to understand, like we all have unbreakable moments. 709 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:29,000 Speaker 5: We just have to keep pushing and just find a 710 00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:31,720 Speaker 5: way through. That's what I think. I think having aspinable 711 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:32,880 Speaker 5: interview with Mom for sure. 712 00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:35,840 Speaker 3: Man, Brother, there's anybody who is unbreakable, it is you. 713 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:38,200 Speaker 2: I am proud to walk this walk with you, man, 714 00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:40,240 Speaker 2: proud to call your brother, proud to call your friend. 715 00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:41,760 Speaker 3: Man. I'm really proud of you. Man. 716 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:43,600 Speaker 4: No, thank you so much. Jay. I feel the same 717 00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:44,400 Speaker 4: way about. 718 00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:48,360 Speaker 2: You, absolutely, brother, Love you, dude. He is as unbreakable 719 00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:48,880 Speaker 2: as they come.