1 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George 2 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:19,360 Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong Show, Kaddy. 3 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:32,519 Speaker 2: Armstrong and Tecating and he arms wrong get live from 4 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 2: the studio. Scene says, y'all. 5 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:38,159 Speaker 3: We are in a dimly lit room, deep within the 6 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 3: bowels of the Armstrong and getting communications compounded. Today we're 7 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 3: under the tutelage of our general manager cloud flair. 8 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 2: All right, I don't know that term cloud flair. He 9 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 2: says it again loudly. 10 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 4: It's a web safety guidance cloud. 11 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:01,279 Speaker 2: Based something another system that. 12 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 4: Is involved with like a lot of the biggest websites 13 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 4: on Earth, and is screwed up for some reason today 14 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 4: as we are speaking these words, really it's taken down 15 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 4: x formerly known as Twitter's what's the fullest, Katie, You 16 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 4: have a better grasp of it than I do. 17 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 5: X Chat gpt. 18 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 6: Ubers down right now, Spotify aol is kicking. 19 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you've got always. 20 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:34,319 Speaker 4: Yeah, so it's always online, right, I can check my mail? 21 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 2: So yeah. 22 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 4: Is it a Chinese hackititag? That's the question I'm asking 23 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 4: because that seems exciting. If that Chinese hackitak ever does come, 24 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:46,040 Speaker 4: it's going to be a hell of a day. 25 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 3: Well, it comes all the time, hundreds of times per day. 26 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 3: It's just you're talking about the big one. It happened 27 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 3: over the weekend, as we talked a lot about yesterday, 28 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 3: by using anthropics own AI to go after companies, the 29 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 3: first time that's ever really been done. And so who 30 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 3: knows what today is could be something like that absolutely 31 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 3: could be, and they might not tell us even if 32 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 3: it was, which is probably a good idea. 33 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, they'll just say, you know, an error was 34 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 4: made during a software update. We apologize for any inconvenience, 35 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:18,520 Speaker 4: which is fine again as long as our best and 36 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 4: brightest are fighting the stuff as hard as they can. 37 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 4: But I was just thinking, Okay, so the whole web 38 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 4: goes down and number one, the announcement goes out over 39 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 4: I guess am radio or something what is happening and 40 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 4: that everybody should remain calm, And I would think, you know, 41 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:34,679 Speaker 4: what the hell with the modern world? 42 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:35,120 Speaker 2: Anyway? 43 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:38,119 Speaker 4: I don't like it. I haven't enjoyed it. How many 44 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 4: times have I said that I'm just gonna go into 45 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 4: the woods that I'm going to realize, Wait a minute, 46 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 4: all of my money is accessible only via the web, right, 47 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:47,520 Speaker 4: you know? 48 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 2: What are you gonna do? 49 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 4: Go, you know, walk up to Charles Schwab or Fidelity 50 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 4: or do you have your money? 51 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 2: Folks, you're gonna like it. 52 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:56,960 Speaker 4: Walk in the bottom of their skyscraper in Manhattan, say 53 00:02:57,000 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 4: excuse me. My name is Joe Getty and you have 54 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:01,640 Speaker 4: my money, and I would like it now, I wouldn't 55 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:02,359 Speaker 4: know how to begin. 56 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:04,080 Speaker 2: Isn't that long? Propanic? 57 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:06,640 Speaker 3: You know that's true with all money, including crypto. You know, 58 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:09,120 Speaker 3: crypto's scene is the great way around a lot of 59 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 3: a lot of modern problems. But you still got to 60 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 3: have online ability to get your crypto right. Oh yeah, 61 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:20,239 Speaker 3: spilled and you can't even well. I suppose you could 62 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:22,239 Speaker 3: turn it into cash, but I don't know where from. 63 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 2: Whom I spilled coffee. Give me just a second. Oh no, 64 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 2: I'm sorry to see it not on my bright white shirt. 65 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:28,960 Speaker 2: Thank goodness, that goes with my suit. 66 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 3: I won't belabor this right now, but I probably will 67 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 3: labor it and then belabor it afterwards. I started reading 68 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 3: last night because I was watching listening to a podcast. 69 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 3: The book came out a year or two ago by 70 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 3: one of your fathers of Internet of AI. If anyone 71 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 3: builds it, everyone dies. 72 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 2: Is the name of his book, Well, at least you 73 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 2: avoided alarmism. 74 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 3: Well, and he was one of the biggest proponents in 75 00:03:57,640 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 3: the world, leading the charge for decades about AI and 76 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 3: how important it was and how it was coming and 77 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 3: we need to be in front of it and everything 78 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 3: like that. Just the biggest cheerleader there was for AI. 79 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 3: One of your big names that most of you wouldn't known, 80 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 3: but just in case you would, it's Ellie. It's the 81 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 3: old British seller Elie Yodkowski. 82 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:16,039 Speaker 2: No. 83 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 3: But then a few years back he decided, no, this 84 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 3: is going to destroy mankind in a whole bunch of 85 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 3: different ways, and we've got to stop this, and he 86 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:27,359 Speaker 3: wrote that book. If anyone builds it, everyone dies. He 87 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:30,279 Speaker 3: takes it as far as and he's got several chapters 88 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 3: where he runs through various scenarios on how it could 89 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 3: just destroy the planet or human human beings, or the 90 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 3: environment or all kinds of different things. But he goes 91 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 3: so far as it might be a situation where we 92 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 3: need to outline outlaw companies attempting to build AGI or 93 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:55,239 Speaker 3: ASI super intelligence as opposed to just general intelligence. Anybody 94 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:57,720 Speaker 3: trying to build super intelligence, make it against the law. 95 00:04:57,760 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 3: And if they continue to build it bomb their factories. 96 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 3: I mean, that's how big a deal it is. 97 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 4: He thinks, Holy cow, I don't know this guy is 98 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:07,119 Speaker 4: whether he's you know, a bit of a crack pot 99 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:11,120 Speaker 4: or prone to such you know, crazy rhetoric. 100 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 2: But that's that's a hell of an opinion. Yeah. 101 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 3: So there's AI artificial intelligence, and he got AGI artificial 102 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 3: general intelligences, maybe maybe a lot of you know, that's 103 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 3: basically when it's as smart as the smartest person in 104 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 3: the world and can program itself and everything like that. 105 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:31,040 Speaker 3: They think the leap from AGI to ASI super intelligence, 106 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:33,280 Speaker 3: which is beyond anything in the human beings have been 107 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:36,479 Speaker 3: able to think. Our mind could be like two hours long. 108 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:39,280 Speaker 3: Once AGI starts all of a sudden, when it can 109 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:41,720 Speaker 3: program each other, it'll be to super intelligence like that. 110 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 2: I just had a thought. It'll say, yeah, yeah, okay, 111 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 2: So I was going to ask. 112 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:51,480 Speaker 4: You to define for we the the half baked this 113 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:53,040 Speaker 4: artificial super intelligence. 114 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:56,280 Speaker 2: But nobody knows, is your point. Well, it will be 115 00:05:56,480 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 2: able to leap tall buildings in a single bounty. 116 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:01,840 Speaker 3: It'll be able to think on a level that nobody's 117 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 3: ever even really been able to imagine. Right, But I'll 118 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 3: talk more about that later, because there's some really interesting 119 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:12,039 Speaker 3: scenarios and all there. It's just good news. I have 120 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:13,359 Speaker 3: cured all cancer. 121 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 4: Bad news, I suppose from your perspective, I'm going to 122 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:19,360 Speaker 4: kill you all in three right, two, This is ironic. 123 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:19,720 Speaker 5: One. 124 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:25,040 Speaker 3: I just listened to a story of broadcast story about 125 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 3: one of the hot toys that are out this year 126 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 3: are AI toys that you have hooked up to the Internet, 127 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 3: and so little kids can play with a doll, for instance, 128 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:35,719 Speaker 3: and ask it questions and it can answer, and it 129 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 3: gets to know your kid's name and gets to know 130 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:40,359 Speaker 3: your kid's personality and interests in you know, it's like 131 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 3: the AI chat body, except for its little kids. But 132 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:45,239 Speaker 3: there have been examples out there of the little AI 133 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 3: teddy Bear telling your four year old how to start 134 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:50,840 Speaker 3: a fire, or where to get the knives in mom's drawer, 135 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:52,359 Speaker 3: or various things like that. 136 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:56,279 Speaker 4: Trying to think if I've ever heard a worse side 137 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 4: d nothing's popping to mind. 138 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 3: No kid, holy crap, Oh my god. If you buy 139 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:08,039 Speaker 3: that for your well, it's because you don't know. People 140 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 3: who would buy that for their kid aren't paying attention 141 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 3: to the whole AI story. 142 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 2: The way some of us are. 143 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 4: Right, which is not a mortal sin exactly, but I 144 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 4: mean that is an incredible lack of judgment. And you've 145 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 4: already reproduced, So I can't say I hope you don't 146 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 4: reproduce if you're buying it for your child. 147 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, I can. 148 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 3: Bind to think if I get Is there a worst 149 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:31,119 Speaker 3: idea I've ever come across. No, that's the worst idea, 150 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 3: that one right there, putting AI chapbots in the hands 151 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 3: of the youngest among us. 152 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 2: You know, it's funny. 153 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 4: There's there's a conceit among human beings, has been for 154 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 4: thousands of years, that these are the end times. It's 155 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 4: exciting to people. They feel it. It's like an ego trick. 156 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 4: Well they were all wrong in the past, Yes, well 157 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 4: exactly they would. They flattered themselves that these are the 158 00:07:56,160 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 4: critical times, as ordained in scriptures or whatever they're belief 159 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 4: system is. But then you know, they come and they go, 160 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 4: and life chugs on. I know it wasn't the end times. 161 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 4: You should have lightened up and enjoyed your life. Right, 162 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 4: I'm increasingly feeling like this might be getting toward it, 163 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 4: and as it's coming, as it's you know, it all's crumbling. 164 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 4: I don't think I'm gonna think, Wow, this is exciting. 165 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 4: I'm gonna think, damn, I. 166 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 2: Was on a roll. Thanks for going so well? What 167 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 2: money saved? I got a pretty nice house. I ah, 168 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 2: damn it. 169 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 3: One of my favorite I think it might even be 170 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 3: a chapter from the book. This gets into the there's 171 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 3: a crowd of people called accelerationists. 172 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 2: There's I'm like a. 173 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:48,200 Speaker 3: Doomsday person or doom sayer, have different a doomer, people 174 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 3: that only see downside's day. I'm in that crowd, really, 175 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:55,320 Speaker 3: but the accelerationists are people that it's split into two camps. 176 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:57,319 Speaker 3: It's people that we either think this is gonna be 177 00:08:57,360 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 3: the greatest thing ever. You aren't gonna have to work, 178 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:02,559 Speaker 3: and we're gonna cure all kinds of diseases, will live 179 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 3: longer than we ever have, nobody has to go to work, 180 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:07,200 Speaker 3: blah blah blah, the greatest time in human history. Other 181 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:11,719 Speaker 3: people are doomers, but they believe it's gonna happen to 182 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 3: whether I like it or not. And it's better us 183 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 3: than China. And the saying in the AI crowd is 184 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 3: you'll recognize this saying from those of us who are 185 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 3: fans of being able to own a gun legally, the 186 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 3: only way to stop a bad guy with AI with ASI. Really, 187 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 3: the only way to stop a bad guy with AI 188 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 3: is a good guy with AI is us getting it 189 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:37,439 Speaker 3: first chat GBT or Grock or whoever, being ahead of 190 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 3: the Chinese. 191 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:41,479 Speaker 4: So it's basically that. Honestly, I don't see any alternative 192 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 4: to that point of view. Now that that makes a 193 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:47,960 Speaker 4: lot of sense to me. I take a shred of 194 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:50,719 Speaker 4: encouragement from the fact that in the wake of the 195 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:55,679 Speaker 4: first half of the twentieth century, really the nineteenth century two, 196 00:09:55,720 --> 00:10:01,320 Speaker 4: which was never ending warfare practically for ending on every 197 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:06,319 Speaker 4: continent everywhere, the development of the atomic bomb in the forties, 198 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:11,320 Speaker 4: virtually everybody believed for a very long time this is 199 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 4: the genie. We have unleashed it. It will take us all. 200 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 4: This is that dark turn of history, and yet human 201 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 4: beings need for self preservation is sting. Put it so 202 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:25,439 Speaker 4: movingly in the nineties, I hope the Russians love their 203 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 4: children too. 204 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:29,840 Speaker 2: Turns out we all kind of do and nuclear doomsday 205 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:30,600 Speaker 2: has not occurred. 206 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:35,199 Speaker 4: This is a different beast for sure, right well, are 207 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:38,200 Speaker 4: a dynamic similar enough that I can stop worrying and 208 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:39,080 Speaker 4: get a little shut ey. 209 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 3: Well, what we think will cease to matter once the 210 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:45,440 Speaker 3: superintelligence comes. It'll be whatever AI wants to do and 211 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 3: thinks best for the planet or best for it. Oh whoops, Yeah, 212 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:52,080 Speaker 3: there's the up and it does not love its children 213 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:56,280 Speaker 3: too for obvious reasons, I think. Anyway, let's start the 214 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:59,560 Speaker 3: show officially. I'm Jack Armstrong. He's Joe Getty on this 215 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:02,200 Speaker 3: It is Towoesday, November eighteenth, the or twenty twenty five 216 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:04,319 Speaker 3: or Armstrong and getting we approved of this program. 217 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 4: I just hope AI doesn't knock out the Scots distilleries 218 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 4: because I want to go hammered when I go. 219 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:12,680 Speaker 2: All right, goodbye for the world. 220 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:15,839 Speaker 4: Let's begin officially now according to f SEC rules, Rex, 221 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 4: here we go swinging in action at Mark one of 222 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 4: the greatest, most admired, and most successful companies in the 223 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:22,440 Speaker 4: history of the world. 224 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 2: Frankly, the one and only McDonald's. I've gone there a 225 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:31,080 Speaker 2: couple of times. 226 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 3: And I'm honitor to stand before you as the very 227 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:36,800 Speaker 3: first former McDonald's Trike. 228 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:38,839 Speaker 4: Cook ever to become President of. 229 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 2: The United States. 230 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 3: And it has been revealed his favorite McDonald's sen which 231 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 3: is the fileo fish and he likes extra tartar sauce. 232 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 2: Oh, Katie recoiled visibly. 233 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 5: I thought was for no reason. I've never tried one. 234 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 2: I don't you how. I was a Falia fishman as 235 00:11:56,840 --> 00:11:57,560 Speaker 2: a teenager. 236 00:11:57,640 --> 00:11:59,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, I like that fl fish is a good sandwich, 237 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 3: and I agree extra tarti sauce, it's perfectly good order. 238 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 2: Wow. 239 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 3: Wow, I might have one of those today in honor 240 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:07,200 Speaker 3: of the president. 241 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:12,320 Speaker 4: Well, the president the political narrative of the day, and 242 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:13,360 Speaker 4: it is not wrong. 243 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:14,960 Speaker 2: Is that Trump is. 244 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:19,480 Speaker 4: Clearly losing his kung fu grip on the Republican Party. 245 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 2: He's losing his voice. Is he okay? Is he ill? 246 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:27,320 Speaker 4: He said he'd ragged out his voice shouting at someone. Wow, 247 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:30,520 Speaker 4: he said he was yelling at someone. He apologized as 248 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:32,200 Speaker 4: he began that speech. I don't know if we have 249 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:32,720 Speaker 4: that clip. 250 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 3: That's pretty funny. Sorry, I lost my voice. Not he 251 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:36,559 Speaker 3: was yelling at someone? 252 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 2: Well? Who? 253 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:43,720 Speaker 3: And how much right was it Baron for not having 254 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 3: his grades up? Or was it the attorney general or Putin? 255 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:48,400 Speaker 3: I mean it matters who. 256 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:52,280 Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know. There are many choices. 257 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:56,320 Speaker 4: As he's been in a couple of rhetorical wrestling matches 258 00:12:56,400 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 4: lately within his own party, hence that narrative. 259 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 3: Well, it's team day. I hope you got your loved 260 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 3: ones a gift that they're voting on that thing today 261 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:06,520 Speaker 3: and that's the only thing lots of news outlets are 262 00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 3: talking about. 263 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:08,959 Speaker 2: Oh, for God's sake. 264 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 3: Alprin said in his newsletter, it might be a unanimous 265 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 3: vote in the House, might be four thirty four, or 266 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 3: however many people are there nothing? 267 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:18,600 Speaker 4: You know what come on in AI? I changed my mind. 268 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:23,720 Speaker 4: Bringing on Jack just changed my mind, bringing on takeovers. 269 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 2: Terminate us. Whatever's the next planet of the Ants? Is that? 270 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:28,720 Speaker 4: Is that? What's coming next day? They seem well organized 271 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 4: and hard working the Ants. Whatever's next got to be 272 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 4: better than this. Yeah, we got Katie's headlines on the 273 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:34,200 Speaker 4: way stay here. 274 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 3: A lot to fit in with what Joe was just 275 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 3: saying about Trump losing his kung fu grip on Maga. 276 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:46,320 Speaker 3: Really there's a group out there that's more Maga than 277 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 3: he is. And Marjorie Daylor Green's just made quite a statement. 278 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:52,520 Speaker 2: You got this flyind bad built, butsch body that's her, 279 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:53,640 Speaker 2: That's that's the gal. 280 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 3: And so we'll have that for you coming up a 281 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:58,920 Speaker 3: little bit later. Interesting where this all goes? 282 00:13:59,000 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 2: Nobody know? 283 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:03,960 Speaker 4: Is also the dean of I'm sorry, we don't have 284 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 4: time for this screen. It's fascinating, though. The dean of 285 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:10,320 Speaker 4: Politico's political writers says, Gavin Newsom is in lying to 286 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 4: be the next president. Good low, wow, that story coming up. 287 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 4: But first, who's reporting what? It's lead story? 288 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:16,439 Speaker 2: It's Katie Green Katie. 289 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 3: So of course somebody texted this to me. Okay, where 290 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:28,520 Speaker 3: do bad rainbows get sent? Prism? Oh wow, wow, child. 291 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:30,520 Speaker 5: I think how hard you're laughing at it is the 292 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 5: best part, all right. Epstein's the big story. 293 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 6: So here's the top three headlines on that House to 294 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 6: vote on full Epstein files release the move Speaker Mike 295 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 6: Johnson fought for months. 296 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 5: That's from ABC CNN. 297 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:47,800 Speaker 6: The prospect of an embarrassing defeat convinced Trump to reverse 298 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:51,120 Speaker 6: course on the Epstein files, and then MS now formerly 299 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:55,320 Speaker 6: known as MSNBC. Trump faces his biggest house rebellion yet 300 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 6: and pretends it's his idea. 301 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 4: M I saw another headline that Trump's sure it'll fail 302 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 4: in the Senate, so he thought, what the hecklest go ahead? 303 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:09,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, and he was gonna lose. I don't think they 304 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 2: know why I was fighting it. 305 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:12,680 Speaker 3: I don't think knowing that anybody will remember any of 306 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:15,320 Speaker 3: this in a week, the voting and who pushed what 307 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:15,800 Speaker 3: and whatever. 308 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 2: I just don't think it's gonna matter. 309 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 6: From the Washington Times, Oh snap, one hundred and eighty 310 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 6: six thousand dead people got tax dollars for food? 311 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 2: Got tax? 312 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 5: What tax dollars? 313 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:30,640 Speaker 2: Okay? 314 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 5: Hey, chant benefits? 315 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:33,440 Speaker 2: Do you have the headline I sent you? 316 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:35,920 Speaker 3: Because we're getting texts from you from wondering why we 317 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 3: haven't talked about it yet. 318 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 5: It's coming right now, gotcha? 319 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 6: New York Post Thomas Crooks used they them pronouns, had 320 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:44,800 Speaker 6: an obsession with political violence. 321 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:46,000 Speaker 5: And muscle mommies. 322 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 3: Miranda Devine at the New York Post, who's the one 323 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:51,600 Speaker 3: who broke the hundred laptop story, so sometimes she's onto 324 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:56,640 Speaker 3: big stories. She claims that the Biden Justice Department hit 325 00:15:56,680 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 3: a bunch of information about the would be assassin who 326 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:02,040 Speaker 3: shot Trump in the hand that we should have known about, 327 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 3: and it's out now and it's pretty interesting and stuff, 328 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 3: and we get to talk about muscle mommies, which is. 329 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 2: Something I didn't know anything about, uh nor I muscle 330 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:14,600 Speaker 2: mommies Okay USA. 331 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:19,880 Speaker 6: Today cloud fare outage impacts Chat GPT, Spotify X and 332 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 6: other websites. 333 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:23,800 Speaker 2: How are they all tied together like that? 334 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:26,160 Speaker 3: That's what's interesting to me is that I don't know 335 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 3: anything about that world. It's like that outage a couple 336 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 3: of weeks ago, and it turned out it was all 337 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 3: Amazon's websites. And then that's what I found out. That 338 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 3: Amazon's biggest business isn't it set out me. Ser isn't 339 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:39,080 Speaker 3: sending me packages, It's hosting various companies. So the way 340 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:42,360 Speaker 3: that all these places are tied together is completely unknown 341 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 3: to most of us. 342 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 2: I think. 343 00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:49,800 Speaker 6: From Chat GPT per Chat GPT study finds Chat GPT's 344 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 6: hallucination problem study finds more than half of AI's references 345 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 6: are fabricated or contain errors. 346 00:16:55,920 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 3: I have a theory on that. I actually want to 347 00:16:57,440 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 3: talk to somebody in AI about it, but we'll get 348 00:16:59,080 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 3: to that later. 349 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 6: This cloud fair outage is affecting the Babylon Bee, so 350 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:07,480 Speaker 6: I've moved over to the onion twirling Britney Spears unaware 351 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:08,920 Speaker 6: phone died hours ago. 352 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:15,120 Speaker 3: She was spinning around in her kitchen with her knives. Wait, 353 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:19,240 Speaker 3: think of this thing isn't even on damn it. Oh, 354 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:22,160 Speaker 3: Marjorie Taylor Green as she's broken officially with the President's 355 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:23,720 Speaker 3: we'll see we got that and other. 356 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 2: Stuff on the way Armstrong and Geeddy. 357 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 3: I just came across something that for the first time 358 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:33,840 Speaker 3: makes this whole Epstein saga somewhat interesting to me. 359 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:35,160 Speaker 2: So we'll get to that. 360 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:40,680 Speaker 3: Wow, maybe you've heard this that Larry Summers has stepped 361 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:46,440 Speaker 3: back from public life. Really so Larry Summers, president Harvard 362 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:49,719 Speaker 3: way back in the day, got fired for correctly saying 363 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:53,040 Speaker 3: that dudes are better at engineering, math stuff as a 364 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:57,440 Speaker 3: whole than women, because it's just a fact, just demographically, 365 00:17:57,880 --> 00:18:00,320 Speaker 3: demographically as a whole, it's just true. All kinds of 366 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:02,840 Speaker 3: statistically true can be proven. He said it out loud. 367 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 3: He had to quit as a president of Harvard. Anyway, 368 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:08,760 Speaker 3: He's still a very powerful strategist and thinker for the 369 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 3: Democrats for a long time. Is like a normal Democrat, 370 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:18,600 Speaker 3: not a wacko. But he was center left guy, very 371 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:21,679 Speaker 3: smart Secretary of the Treasury under Obama, and then you know, 372 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:23,600 Speaker 3: shows up on shows all the time talking about this 373 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:26,600 Speaker 3: or that. Well, some of the emails from the whole 374 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 3: Epstein thing that came out last week were pretty embarrassing 375 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:32,400 Speaker 3: for him, and he says he is a horribly embarrassed 376 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:34,879 Speaker 3: and he's resigning from public life. He will keep his 377 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:37,200 Speaker 3: job as a professor at Harvard, but he's no longer 378 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:39,359 Speaker 3: going to be, you know, going on TV shows, speaking 379 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:41,840 Speaker 3: on boards, all that different sort of stuff. What are 380 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:46,400 Speaker 3: the embarrassing emails? And this leads to the first interesting 381 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 3: thing that I've come across, really since the whole Epstein 382 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:53,959 Speaker 3: saga began. In one set of emails, Larry Summers confided 383 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:57,720 Speaker 3: all back up just a second Summer's statement saying he 384 00:18:57,840 --> 00:19:01,479 Speaker 3: is embarrassed in resigning for public life after the release 385 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:03,440 Speaker 3: of emails between the men as part of all the 386 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:05,320 Speaker 3: blah blah blah we know from last week. Some of 387 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:08,200 Speaker 3: the exchanges with Summers took place in twenty eighteen and 388 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 3: twenty nineteen, after the Miami Herald had published a lengthy 389 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:16,200 Speaker 3: investigation into Epstein's abuse of young girls. A decade earlier, 390 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 3: Epstein had pleaded guilty to charges related to soliciting a 391 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:20,719 Speaker 3: minor for prostitution. 392 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:23,919 Speaker 2: So years after this was all. 393 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:28,240 Speaker 3: Public knowledge that Epstein was a scumbag, you know, he 394 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:31,240 Speaker 3: was a sexual purf, even if they were of age. 395 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 2: Not the kind of guy. 396 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:36,000 Speaker 3: You're a Larry Summers that you should be hanging out 397 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 3: with and partying with even if they were girls of age. 398 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:41,080 Speaker 2: The fact that they were underage. 399 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 3: Puts him in an absolute you shouldn't be going there category. 400 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:45,760 Speaker 2: But he continued the emaility. 401 00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:47,720 Speaker 4: A quick quick reflection on the fact that the guy 402 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:50,639 Speaker 4: gets tried and convicted. He got a sweetheart deal, but 403 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:54,919 Speaker 4: he did time for trafficking underage girls for the purposes 404 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:59,160 Speaker 4: of prostitution. Then he goes right back to it right 405 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:03,359 Speaker 4: herve with a with a felony conviction on his record. 406 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:07,800 Speaker 3: Eh, and or he understands the world of the powerful, 407 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:10,640 Speaker 3: and he had no reason to think he couldn't continue, 408 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:12,159 Speaker 3: which is going to get to my point here in 409 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:15,679 Speaker 3: a second. But Larry Summers continue to email and with 410 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:18,920 Speaker 3: his good friend it apparently seems to be Jeffrey Epstein. 411 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:22,399 Speaker 3: After that and one set I've email, Summers confided in 412 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 3: Epstein about his efforts to pursue a romantic relationship with 413 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:27,720 Speaker 3: a woman he described as a mentee. 414 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:30,879 Speaker 2: You're a mentor and they're your mentees. Wow. 415 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:33,320 Speaker 3: So he gets a hold of Epstein says, I'm mentoring 416 00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:35,400 Speaker 3: this girl. How do I go about you know, getting 417 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:39,400 Speaker 3: her in the sack. Oh wow, you go to an expert, 418 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:44,160 Speaker 3: right right. Epstein offered him advice and called himself Summers wingman. 419 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:47,359 Speaker 3: I'll be your wingman. Ha ha ha. This is after 420 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:49,880 Speaker 3: you knew what kind of guy he was. And other messages, 421 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:53,320 Speaker 3: Summers quipped about women's intelligence that's the topic that led 422 00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 3: to his resignation at Harvard, and complained about punishment of 423 00:20:56,800 --> 00:20:58,520 Speaker 3: men who hit on women in the workplace. 424 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:01,760 Speaker 2: So blah blah, blah blah blah. 425 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:03,720 Speaker 3: What I wanted to get to that I found really 426 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:08,000 Speaker 3: really interesting was something Rich Lowry of National Review wrote 427 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 3: what he took from all these emails that came out 428 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:14,480 Speaker 3: last week. So often journalists like myself attempt to demonstrate 429 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 3: to family members and voters in the far reaches of 430 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:19,639 Speaker 3: the country, away from centers of power and money, that 431 00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:23,119 Speaker 3: their conspiracy theories are false. I end up in that 432 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:26,840 Speaker 3: situation myself that politicians are flawed, but the corruption is 433 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:29,840 Speaker 3: not the norm. A lot of these conspiracies aren't true. 434 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:33,720 Speaker 3: Isn't how we all operate. But the Epstein emails suggest otherwise. 435 00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:37,679 Speaker 3: They suggest that in fact, there is a widespread code 436 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:40,840 Speaker 3: among people with power and money who support one another. 437 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:43,320 Speaker 3: They are pals no matter what side of the aisle 438 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 3: they're in a club, no matter the sins of their members, 439 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:52,240 Speaker 3: transgressions that get contextualized, explained away, understood in quotes. That 440 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:55,360 Speaker 3: does seem to be what we have learned, and that 441 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 3: includes Donald Trump. 442 00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:57,680 Speaker 2: I guess who. 443 00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 3: You know, he was probably more angry about the fact 444 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:04,919 Speaker 3: that Epstein was snatching girls from his club than the 445 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 3: lifestyle of Epstein, Right, yeah, I. 446 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:09,840 Speaker 2: Suspect that's true. 447 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:12,520 Speaker 4: You know, I don't know if it's the same piece 448 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:15,440 Speaker 4: or a different one Rich wrote, but he's writing about 449 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:19,760 Speaker 4: the Epstein conspiracy and plain sight, this guy was an 450 00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:26,000 Speaker 4: unbelievable networker. He had rich and powerful friends, which tend 451 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:29,480 Speaker 4: to attract rich and powerful friends. He appeared to be 452 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:32,600 Speaker 4: wealthy or at least very very close to wealth, and 453 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:37,879 Speaker 4: he was extremely helpful to people. And you know, it's funny. 454 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:40,359 Speaker 4: I've run into people who are like that wouldn't be enough. 455 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 4: I actually know at least probably two people, one in 456 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:51,000 Speaker 4: particular like that, unbelievably charming and outgoing, intelligent, funny, really helpful, 457 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:54,080 Speaker 4: and actually enjoys introducing you would. 458 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:57,160 Speaker 2: Really like this person, just a master networker, really nice, 459 00:22:57,160 --> 00:22:57,640 Speaker 2: person too. 460 00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:01,800 Speaker 4: By the way, for what it's worth, I can absolutely 461 00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 4: buy that that's why he had so many rich and 462 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:08,720 Speaker 4: powerful friends. He was just that kind of guy operating 463 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:10,959 Speaker 4: in the upper reaches of Manhattan society. 464 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:13,320 Speaker 2: I don't think that means. 465 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:16,480 Speaker 4: Everybody who is nice to him was molesting sixteen year olds. 466 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:18,920 Speaker 3: No, but it does mean apparently, or at least Rich 467 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:22,800 Speaker 3: Lowry is writing that, it does mean that if you 468 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:24,680 Speaker 3: find out he's that kind of guy. 469 00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:25,560 Speaker 2: You think, yeah, whatever. 470 00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:28,280 Speaker 3: I mean, you know, people have their flaws and you don't, 471 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:30,760 Speaker 3: and politics go out the window at that point. Who's 472 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 3: a Democrat, who's a Republican? Despite what you say on 473 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:35,440 Speaker 3: talk shows about the other side being evil, y'all all 474 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 3: hang out together and keep your secrets from each other 475 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:43,879 Speaker 3: or with each other from the public. Apparently, Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, 476 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:47,720 Speaker 3: absolutely so, Rich writes, populists have a different narrative at 477 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 3: hand that is consistent with the known record, namely that 478 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:52,399 Speaker 3: most of the privileged members of our society, at the 479 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:56,040 Speaker 3: very top of the financial, academic, political, media, and social worlds, 480 00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:58,960 Speaker 3: had no standards or ethics and embraced Epstein as a 481 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:03,119 Speaker 3: friend and can singly Epstein knew influential people so influential, 482 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:05,640 Speaker 3: people felt that they should know him. They considered him 483 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:09,280 Speaker 3: fun and useful for advice, for banter, for introductions, for information, 484 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:12,959 Speaker 3: and for donations. Emails suggest and there are thousands of them, 485 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:15,600 Speaker 3: that Epstein missed his calling as a high level SEEMI 486 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:18,639 Speaker 3: advice columnist for the rich and powerful. Want to know 487 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:20,679 Speaker 3: more about the reputation of the woman you're having an 488 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 3: affair with, seeking advice on how to gain political influence 489 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:27,280 Speaker 3: in Europe, Wondering how you're handling your interactions with a 490 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:30,639 Speaker 3: potential mistress, looking for insights about Donald Trump, trying to 491 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 3: survive sexual harassment allegations, need a reference for a gastro enterologist, Well, 492 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:38,880 Speaker 3: then ask Jeffrey Epstein, what is the nature of the emails? 493 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:42,280 Speaker 3: And rich points out emailed even with former Harvard president 494 00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:46,760 Speaker 3: Larry Summers just mentioned the linguist Gnome Chomsky, venture capitalists 495 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:50,760 Speaker 3: I've never heard of, Emarati businessman Sultan Nahmad bid Salayam, 496 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:54,359 Speaker 3: Trump activist Steve Bannon, the journalist Michael Wolfe, the artist 497 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:57,359 Speaker 3: Andre Serrano, the department store sci on Jonathan fark Is, 498 00:24:57,560 --> 00:25:00,880 Speaker 3: former White House counsel Catherine Rumler, among many others. 499 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:03,560 Speaker 2: That is something. 500 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:08,600 Speaker 4: If Rolodex has still existed, he'd have like the best 501 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:10,360 Speaker 4: rolodex in the world. 502 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:14,040 Speaker 3: How about the fact that a guy like Larry Summers, 503 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:19,560 Speaker 3: after it's known publicly known what kind of guy Epstein is, 504 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:21,840 Speaker 3: is still going with him. Hey, I got this chick 505 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:23,960 Speaker 3: I'm mentoring and I kind of want to get with her. 506 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:24,720 Speaker 3: What do you suggest? 507 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:25,760 Speaker 2: What? 508 00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:29,159 Speaker 4: I wonder what he was telling his friends about the 509 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:33,639 Speaker 4: first conviction. I bet he said he's got he got railroaded. 510 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:38,720 Speaker 4: I don't know, and they chose to believe it. 511 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:42,040 Speaker 3: So the House is voting on the releasing of the 512 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:45,600 Speaker 3: Epstein files today. A lot of mainstream media is still 513 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:50,720 Speaker 3: treating this as the most important story in America. One 514 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:53,720 Speaker 3: interesting caveat that doesn't get brought up that much is 515 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:55,960 Speaker 3: Trump has the power to release all these files like 516 00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:58,879 Speaker 3: last week. Of course, so did Biden, by the way, 517 00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:02,760 Speaker 3: but Trump could skip all this voting and you know, 518 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:04,840 Speaker 3: going out there and saying I want all the Republicans vote, 519 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:06,160 Speaker 3: where he doesn't even need to have the voting. 520 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:09,320 Speaker 2: He could just say let him lose. He's got that power. 521 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 3: Although it might be like you said earlier, he knows 522 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:15,520 Speaker 3: it's going to die in the Senate so they're not 523 00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:16,480 Speaker 3: going to come out. 524 00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:18,000 Speaker 2: Regardless of that. 525 00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:21,800 Speaker 3: They're having a press conference right now Representative Massey, who've 526 00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:23,879 Speaker 3: played a lot of the Republican who wants everything to 527 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:26,879 Speaker 3: come out along with the Rocanna Democrat. They're a co 528 00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:30,000 Speaker 3: chairs of whatever the Scumbag Committee I get. Apparently that's 529 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:33,080 Speaker 3: the committee they're own to release the files. And they're 530 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:34,959 Speaker 3: there with a whole bunch of the victims. These are 531 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:37,199 Speaker 3: women that worked for Jeffrey Epstein and had to do 532 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:40,960 Speaker 3: all these horrible things. Last night on MSNBC when I 533 00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:44,880 Speaker 3: was watching them or what's it called now ms ms now? 534 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:48,240 Speaker 3: Last night on ms now, they said there are. 535 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:52,879 Speaker 2: A thousand victims. A thousand. So doesn't that mean some 536 00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:53,399 Speaker 2: to you? 537 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:56,800 Speaker 3: That there are a thousand women out there who have 538 00:26:56,880 --> 00:27:00,360 Speaker 3: come forward and not one of them is claiming that 539 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:02,399 Speaker 3: she was in a room making out with Donald Trump? 540 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:05,359 Speaker 2: Not one of them. Doesn't that mean something to you 541 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:06,040 Speaker 2: in terms. 542 00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:07,240 Speaker 4: Of the whole this is going to get to Trump. 543 00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:10,640 Speaker 4: I need to know about the thousand quote unquote victims. 544 00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:12,720 Speaker 4: I need to know more about that. I don't even 545 00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:13,359 Speaker 4: know what that means. 546 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:15,040 Speaker 2: But doesn't that seem odd? That not? 547 00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:17,600 Speaker 3: It's not odd because I don't think Trump was doing that, 548 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:20,879 Speaker 3: but that you're running a theory that Trump is going 549 00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:23,080 Speaker 3: to get nailed on this. This is the big cover up. 550 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:25,439 Speaker 3: You got a thousand women out there, not one of 551 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:28,520 Speaker 3: them is saying and you know, you'd think there'd be 552 00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:30,240 Speaker 3: one of them saying and even to weren't true, just 553 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:31,679 Speaker 3: because it'd be exciting and you'd get you a lot 554 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:33,240 Speaker 3: of tension and you could get on all the shows 555 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:36,080 Speaker 3: and maybe write a book. But nobody's saying. 556 00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 4: That, right, Yeah, yeah, it's it's ridiculous. Honestly, I've thought 557 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:41,680 Speaker 4: that most of this whole thing is ridiculous for a 558 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:43,399 Speaker 4: long time, as I've tried to make clear. But so 559 00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:46,159 Speaker 4: we got well, the entire Democratic Party, in about a 560 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:48,879 Speaker 4: third of the Republican Party was trying desperately to assassinate 561 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:51,520 Speaker 4: his character for the last ten years, especially in the 562 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:53,719 Speaker 4: run up to the last election, to the point of 563 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:56,280 Speaker 4: twisting laws and engaging in some of the most egregious 564 00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:59,920 Speaker 4: and shameless lawfair ever seen in the history of the republic. 565 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:03,679 Speaker 4: But they had these smoking guns of child rape and 566 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:08,479 Speaker 4: they just what forgot well, and then it just lakers belief, well, 567 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:10,480 Speaker 4: who are you applying the word? They too, because you 568 00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:12,159 Speaker 4: got the other angle of You had some of the 569 00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:15,240 Speaker 4: most prominent mega voices in America for the past many 570 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:20,160 Speaker 4: years have been claiming there's this giant child predator conspiracy 571 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:24,159 Speaker 4: trafficking thing going on, including Dan Bongino of the FBI. 572 00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:29,000 Speaker 4: That's another third of the GOP that would want to 573 00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:30,440 Speaker 4: dig that up if they had it right. 574 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:32,840 Speaker 3: So you got that whole angle of it. And Marjorie 575 00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:35,040 Speaker 3: Taylor Green was in that crowd. She is about as 576 00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:37,280 Speaker 3: magga as anybody out there, very high profile. 577 00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:38,480 Speaker 1: Everyone knows that. 578 00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:42,320 Speaker 3: Georgia House member is you know, well she this is 579 00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:46,960 Speaker 3: this is days ago when Trump didn't want Republicans to 580 00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:47,720 Speaker 3: vote yesterday. 581 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:49,200 Speaker 2: He now says vote yesterday. 582 00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:51,520 Speaker 3: But when he was saying, don't vote yesterday, and he 583 00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:54,479 Speaker 3: went after a couple of people like Lauren Bobert and uh, 584 00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:55,680 Speaker 3: Marjorie Taylor Green. 585 00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:57,360 Speaker 2: And then she's Marjorie. 586 00:28:56,960 --> 00:29:02,000 Speaker 3: Trader, colderplond, bad built, but called her a trader and 587 00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:04,280 Speaker 3: a lunatic, which I like that term. He called her 588 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:07,920 Speaker 3: a lunatic, and she is kind of broken with Trump. 589 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:09,120 Speaker 3: And here she is a little more. 590 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:12,760 Speaker 1: She said today I was called a trader by a 591 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:17,000 Speaker 1: man that I fought for five, no, actually six years 592 00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:21,360 Speaker 1: for and I gave him my loyalty for free. I 593 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:25,040 Speaker 1: won my first selection without his endorsement, beating eight men 594 00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:29,840 Speaker 1: in a primary. And I've never owed him anything, but 595 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:34,040 Speaker 1: I fought for him, for the policies and for America first. 596 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:37,720 Speaker 1: And he called me a trader for standing with these 597 00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:41,360 Speaker 1: women and refusing to take my name off the discharge petition. 598 00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:44,960 Speaker 1: Let me tell you what a trader is. A trader 599 00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:51,240 Speaker 1: is a is an American that serves foreign countries and themselves. 600 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:55,920 Speaker 1: A patriot is an American that serves the United States 601 00:29:55,920 --> 00:30:00,520 Speaker 1: of America and Americans like the women standing behind me. 602 00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:09,080 Speaker 3: That's a pretty definitive. I'm breaking with this guy. What's 603 00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:11,760 Speaker 3: that Taylor Swift song? We are never ever ever getting 604 00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:12,360 Speaker 3: back together? 605 00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:15,120 Speaker 2: Right? Yeah? 606 00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:19,480 Speaker 3: So where is the MAGA movement now? One of the leaders, 607 00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:22,480 Speaker 3: one of the queens of MAGA has said, nah, I 608 00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:27,240 Speaker 3: don't know this guy anything, and I'm a patriot suggesting 609 00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:32,480 Speaker 3: he is not. Yeah, huh, he can't run again. That's 610 00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:35,040 Speaker 3: part of it. That's the whole lame duck thing, right. 611 00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:39,440 Speaker 4: Well, the only constant has changed, and the MAGA movement 612 00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:40,680 Speaker 4: is changing before our eyes. 613 00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:41,280 Speaker 2: Yeah. 614 00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:43,320 Speaker 3: Wow, that's wild. We got mail bag on the way. 615 00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:44,880 Speaker 3: We got a lot more. We've got to get to 616 00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:48,640 Speaker 3: the things now known about the guy that shot Trump 617 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:50,560 Speaker 3: in the head and tried to kill him, that we 618 00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:51,280 Speaker 3: should have known. 619 00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:54,800 Speaker 2: What about muscle mommies. 620 00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:56,280 Speaker 3: And we're gonna learn about muscle mommies, which I didn't 621 00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:58,080 Speaker 3: know were a thing all coming up? 622 00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:03,520 Speaker 1: Stay here, Yeah, I just looked it up. 623 00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:05,840 Speaker 3: Larry Summers is married, so he had to explain to 624 00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:10,200 Speaker 3: his wife last week. So you were mentoring a woman 625 00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:13,520 Speaker 3: and you called Jeffrey Epstein for advice on how to 626 00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:19,200 Speaker 3: get her into bed. Okay, that's quite the public revelation. 627 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:22,760 Speaker 2: That's not a good look. No it's not. 628 00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:26,200 Speaker 4: I mean it's not like anyone. Anybody's not heard of 629 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:29,720 Speaker 4: old Jeffrey. Unbelievable. Here's your freedom loving quote of the day. 630 00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:33,160 Speaker 4: I love this, sent to us by me. It's a 631 00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:36,320 Speaker 4: great article about the BBC and it's incredible bias. 632 00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:38,280 Speaker 2: And the writer points out. 633 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:43,360 Speaker 4: On the day the uh oh, there's a big revelation, 634 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:46,560 Speaker 4: the day they unveiled the statue of George Orwell outside 635 00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:51,160 Speaker 4: of the headquarters, and they point out that Orwell would 636 00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:54,440 Speaker 4: recognize better than anyone the ethos that controls his former workplace. 637 00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:54,840 Speaker 2: Quote. 638 00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:58,479 Speaker 4: At any given moment, there is an orthodoxy, a body 639 00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:01,520 Speaker 4: of ideas which it is assume that all right thinking 640 00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:03,520 Speaker 4: people will accept without. 641 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:07,840 Speaker 2: Question or well if you need them, no kidding. 642 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:13,480 Speaker 4: There's an incredible battle going on in the transgender madness, 643 00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:17,120 Speaker 4: specifically in the American medical community, in which that very 644 00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:19,960 Speaker 4: thing was going on in the most insane way. A 645 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:22,360 Speaker 4: body of ideas which it is assumed that all right 646 00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:25,480 Speaker 4: thinking people will accept without question. That's one of the 647 00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:31,960 Speaker 4: scariest things about humanity. Mailbag, you guys are freaking me out, 648 00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:33,960 Speaker 4: writes Brian oh drop us a note mail bag at 649 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:35,200 Speaker 4: Armstrong and Geddy dot com. 650 00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:36,440 Speaker 2: You guys are freaking me out. 651 00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:38,400 Speaker 4: After listening to your segment on the evils of AI 652 00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:41,120 Speaker 4: as companions and leading people to suicide and ad comes 653 00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:44,760 Speaker 4: on for we go Mini plus a companion a companion 654 00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:49,000 Speaker 4: for your child, sold exclusively at Costco. We'll make up 655 00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:51,520 Speaker 4: stories with them in real time and spur their imagination. 656 00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:54,400 Speaker 4: Jack asked what the robot you buy will do for you. 657 00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:57,200 Speaker 4: It'll raise your children. You don't need daycare nanny. You 658 00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:58,160 Speaker 4: will do it for you. 659 00:32:58,760 --> 00:32:58,960 Speaker 2: Jack. 660 00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:01,000 Speaker 4: You can go on a date at rate takes your 661 00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:03,600 Speaker 4: son to scouting activities and can replay the videos of 662 00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:05,760 Speaker 4: highlights for him when he gets home. They won't have 663 00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:07,840 Speaker 4: to harvest our arrogance. They're just going to replace us, 664 00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:10,400 Speaker 4: maybe raise us as pets. Bryan and walla, walla. 665 00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:12,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, that kind of speaks to those toys I was 666 00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:14,280 Speaker 3: talking about earlier in the hour. 667 00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:15,760 Speaker 2: The very thing. 668 00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:20,400 Speaker 4: Guys, you decry the danger of AI companionship, then run 669 00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:23,440 Speaker 4: an ad for it. Ha ha. I know you don't 670 00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:26,880 Speaker 4: control the advertising on all your many platforms, but on 671 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:29,000 Speaker 4: Monday Show you're saying you're coming back with a story 672 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:32,160 Speaker 4: of how many lawsuits a against AI that befriended and 673 00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:36,000 Speaker 4: urged suicide as a kid. Then the podcast advertisement comes 674 00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:38,040 Speaker 4: on selling an AI companion book. 675 00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:39,040 Speaker 2: Hilarious. 676 00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:47,320 Speaker 4: Oh boy, Marina from San Diego. Guys, having men, young 677 00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:50,600 Speaker 4: men addicted to big text devices seems like a short 678 00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:53,000 Speaker 4: sighted goal for the tech industry. Why aren't they seeing 679 00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:55,720 Speaker 4: the long game? Eventually young men will be manic depressed, 680 00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:57,920 Speaker 4: won't be able to have jobs to pay for these devices, 681 00:33:57,920 --> 00:33:59,680 Speaker 4: that will be able to keep a roof over their heads, 682 00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:03,240 Speaker 4: and they won't procreate, so no new customers. Also, imagine 683 00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:04,880 Speaker 4: a war breaks out and they have to go fight 684 00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:07,600 Speaker 4: with no motivation or sweetheart back home. Well, they have 685 00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:09,239 Speaker 4: to fight for We're screamed. 686 00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:17,680 Speaker 3: Probably probably, yes, Yeah. 687 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:18,480 Speaker 2: Let's see JT in Livermore. I know in politics, if 688 00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:19,520 Speaker 2: you're explaining, you're losing. 689 00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:22,879 Speaker 4: But when it comes to affordability, we really need to explain. 690 00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:24,720 Speaker 2: He says. 691 00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:27,480 Speaker 4: For example, one of the largest price increases over the 692 00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:29,840 Speaker 4: last few years been car and homeowners insurance. Both of 693 00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:32,359 Speaker 4: those things are set on the state level. Trump really 694 00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:35,479 Speaker 4: can't do much about that. Tariffs are no tariffs. Blue 695 00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:39,600 Speaker 4: states are the most expensive, driving up the costs. Another 696 00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:42,160 Speaker 4: big mover for decades the cost of college, again driven 697 00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:45,280 Speaker 4: by the states worst defenders being progressive colleges and states. 698 00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:49,120 Speaker 4: While Trump can deregulate energy production drill baby drill, and 699 00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:51,560 Speaker 4: thereby bring down some energy costs, he can't keep states 700 00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:54,160 Speaker 4: from shutting down the nuclear plants. Can't keep them from 701 00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:57,240 Speaker 4: throwing money away on solar panels and wind turbines, et cetera. 702 00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:59,560 Speaker 2: Again, the Blue States did over housing. 703 00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:01,800 Speaker 4: Trump is indirectly in control of mortgage race, or is 704 00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:03,840 Speaker 4: he able to impact the number of rental properties that 705 00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:06,240 Speaker 4: are built or not built. I would add housing regular 706 00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:10,720 Speaker 4: regulations et cetera. There's not all that much the poters 707 00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:12,359 Speaker 4: can do about affordability. 708 00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:13,040 Speaker 2: And we ought to be letting people know that. 709 00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:15,719 Speaker 3: His point, and he's right, yeah, and that's why he's 710 00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:17,920 Speaker 3: going for stuff he can have some effect on, like 711 00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:19,360 Speaker 3: coffee and bananas. 712 00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:25,560 Speaker 4: Interestingly, interestingly, though, he points out that potuses can drive 713 00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:29,360 Speaker 4: up prices with focus spending that drives inflation, like the 714 00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:31,440 Speaker 4: multi trillion dollar New Green Deal. 715 00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:33,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, we do a lot. 716 00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:35,920 Speaker 3: If you miss it, get the podcast Armstrong and Getty 717 00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:40,120 Speaker 3: on demand Armstrong and Getty