1 00:00:01,680 --> 00:00:03,920 Speaker 1: Is the best of two pros and a couple of 2 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:11,320 Speaker 1: Joe with Lamar airings, Rady Winn and Jonas Knox on radio. 3 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:15,680 Speaker 2: I don't want to be disrespectful because he's a Hall 4 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 2: of Famer, but it looks like Aaron. 5 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:23,240 Speaker 3: Rodgers is scared to get tired, tired. 6 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 4: Like it looks like he's afraid. 7 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:26,319 Speaker 5: I said this to you guys last week. 8 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:28,479 Speaker 3: He's tired. 9 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, I said this to you guys last week. And 10 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:34,920 Speaker 5: it's tough watching their offense because it looks like he 11 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:36,920 Speaker 5: gets the shotguns snap and he's getting ball his hands 12 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 5: so as he can, and it's like, okay, like you've 13 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:43,479 Speaker 5: got a seven man protection, you can hold onto it. 14 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 5: A little bit like what was the point of getting 15 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:48,280 Speaker 5: DK Metcalf And you know, going to a team with 16 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 5: guys who got speed if you're not going to utilize them. 17 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 5: But his time to throw was tied for the fastest 18 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:57,280 Speaker 5: in the league entering into this week, so clearly he's 19 00:00:57,560 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 5: consciously trying to get the ball out of his hand 20 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 5: quick and look and at the end of his career, 21 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:06,039 Speaker 5: Tom Brady was doing something very similar to Tampa. If 22 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:08,039 Speaker 5: you look at that same time to throw stat you 23 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 5: can find on next gen NFL next gen stats, you'll 24 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:14,039 Speaker 5: find it. But the difference was they were putting up 25 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 5: yards like they had production he'd won a super Bowl. 26 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:20,760 Speaker 5: This feels different, Like to the point you're making Jonas 27 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 5: watching him, it's it almost feels like he does want 28 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:24,119 Speaker 5: to get touched. 29 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:24,959 Speaker 4: It's uncomfortable. 30 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:27,680 Speaker 5: I mean well and even like the offensive lineman the 31 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 5: reaction to him jumping on his back and all that, like, yeah, right, 32 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 5: you know, I get it, Like I'm forty one. I 33 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:34,840 Speaker 5: think he's forty one. 34 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 3: Probably hurt, but like. 35 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 5: Tom Brady was forty five, dude, Like what are we 36 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 5: talking about here, Like forty four to forty five at 37 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 5: the end of his career, probably was still going up 38 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 5: head button dudes. 39 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 3: It probably still it hurt Tom too. It probably hurts. 40 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 3: But if you remember, you know, them hurts hurt way 41 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 3: longer to older you get you know, yeah, you remember 42 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 3: it way longer. 43 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 2: Tom Brady's final year, there wasn't like a significant drop off, 44 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 2: like there was still talks that man, we could like 45 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 2: if you wanted to, you can make an argument for it, 46 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 2: because I think Aaron Rodgers ironically did win the MVP 47 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 2: that year, But there was talks that man, look at 48 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 2: the year, Brady ad it's not like he's really lost 49 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:11,679 Speaker 2: that much off the fastball, so to speak. But Rogers 50 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 2: looks like, yeah, it's just not I don't I don't know, 51 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 2: like I and I don't like saying that because I 52 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 2: don't like seeing the great look the way they look 53 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:26,520 Speaker 2: towards the end from time to time. But he just 54 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 2: seems like he like he wants that ball out as 55 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 2: fast as humanly possible so he can avoid any contact whatsoever. 56 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 2: And maybe it's just he's trying to play the long game, 57 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:40,079 Speaker 2: but it just last night was ugly. Man, that did 58 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 2: not look good. 59 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:43,520 Speaker 3: I don't know that it was a good game for 60 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:46,919 Speaker 3: either one. I mean, they they you know, the Chargers 61 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 3: ended up pulling away, you know, in the end. But 62 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 3: I don't know how I phil about the Chargers either. 63 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 3: I don't know that we were looking at like two 64 00:02:56,760 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 3: good teams. I think we were looking at two teams 65 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:02,519 Speaker 3: that had winning a record. Damn, I don't know, That's 66 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:05,360 Speaker 3: what I and and I just asked myself. I'm like, 67 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:07,679 Speaker 3: I don't know what our picks were like because I 68 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 3: don't be logging it and I don't remember. But in 69 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 3: my mind. Did I go into this game with confidence 70 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 3: that Pittsburgh I felt like Pittsburgh money line? Money line? 71 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 3: I thought so, and they it wasn't out for me. Well, 72 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:25,800 Speaker 3: I mean it was an underdog's week. I don't you know. 73 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 3: You guys had a good week. 74 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:33,959 Speaker 5: You actually picked you actually picked multiple favorites. We picked 75 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 5: a lot of underdogs. You picked multiple favorites and ended 76 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 5: up being underdog week. 77 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 3: It was underdog's week. Man, I don't like the Saints. Like, 78 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:44,119 Speaker 3: what was that? 79 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 4: Did we all Steelers money line? 80 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 3: We did? LaVar is? Oh and five by the way 81 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 3: on the week? Yeah, well I'll take and five. I'm 82 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 3: on the right side of that and five. Wait really, 83 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 3: because if you would have put a gun to my 84 00:03:57,360 --> 00:04:01,839 Speaker 3: head and said, damn, make your pick or die, those 85 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 3: would have been the picks that I would have gave you, 86 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 3: and you know what, I would have lived. But I 87 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 3: just have to accept the fact that, you know what, 88 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 3: they weren't good enough on Sunday. They were the right picks. 89 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 3: They just didn't play the right football. 90 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 2: That's right, Yeah, that is that's the Prisco approach. There 91 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:19,840 Speaker 2: you goat has anybody ever. 92 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 4: Gone over in our picks? I don't think they have. 93 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:25,279 Speaker 5: I have to look through it. Uh, so you have 94 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 5: to give me a second research. I don't know that 95 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 5: we've got an o fer. We've had a decent amount 96 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:35,479 Speaker 5: of one firs, which you have done multiple times. I 97 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:36,839 Speaker 5: don't think I could. 98 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:39,159 Speaker 6: Or not. 99 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 3: But how many y'all get? How many y'all get? Right? 100 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 6: Uh? 101 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:47,040 Speaker 5: Jonas is three and three. I am four and three mm. 102 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 3: That's whack gone. 103 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 5: LaVar has gone six and oh eight and o like 104 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 5: he's hit some some big time weeks. 105 00:04:55,720 --> 00:05:00,279 Speaker 3: Because I call it the right way when we call it, well, no, 106 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 3: it still was called the right way. It's just that 107 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:04,240 Speaker 3: the teams didn't do what they were supposed to do. 108 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 3: That's all. You can't. You can't. You cannot predict. You 109 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 3: can predict a ball on a on a tilted, tilted 110 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:19,280 Speaker 3: till plane is either. 111 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:21,920 Speaker 5: Like a home run or striking out like that's but 112 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 5: no one's gone over in fact, only or only. 113 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 3: When you put the mouse on, their science goes out 114 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:33,360 Speaker 3: the door. I can't predict what the mouse will do. 115 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 3: I can predict what the ball will do by its weight, 116 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 3: get that the level of the incline, you know the 117 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 3: surface that it's rolling on. But you cannot predict with 118 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 3: science what the mouse will do, and picking games is 119 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 3: like trying to figure out where and how and how 120 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 3: quickly will the mouse get to from point A to 121 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 3: point B. It may never get the point be That's 122 00:05:58,279 --> 00:05:59,280 Speaker 3: what happened yesterday. 123 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:01,040 Speaker 4: Just ask for help. 124 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 2: From some of the Cleveland Guardians pitching staff, and they 125 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:05,480 Speaker 2: could probably help you out with some of this gambling 126 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 2: stuff based on how that. 127 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 5: Well, thanks, we're gonna get into that now wait till. 128 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:11,720 Speaker 3: The later on. 129 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:14,280 Speaker 5: I mean what I've read it didn't like it was 130 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:15,719 Speaker 5: much money. That was kind of interesting. 131 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:20,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, I just don't understand how gambling just continues to 132 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:22,839 Speaker 3: be the thing that pops up. Like I feel like 133 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:27,040 Speaker 3: the penalties should be harsher the further out we get 134 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:30,039 Speaker 3: from the first dummy that did it, Like if you're 135 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 3: if your dummy number one is like look at me, 136 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 3: like look at the dummy. Here's your example. That's a dummy. 137 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 3: Stop doing this, all right. The further we get out 138 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:44,719 Speaker 3: and we're years out from the first dummies, you should 139 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 3: get the harsher penalties. I'm sorry, Like it should get 140 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 3: worse by by the day, by the day, because it's 141 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 3: gonna there's going to come a point in time where 142 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:56,839 Speaker 3: something that hits it's like, I don't feel like the 143 00:06:56,920 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 3: collective aspect of it, like all of it being collected 144 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 3: together is going to be the reason why it becomes 145 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:06,679 Speaker 3: a real like detriment. But it's going to be something 146 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 3: like this basketball one, its latest basketball one is it's 147 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:13,559 Speaker 3: it's it's kind of like that one. That one kind 148 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 3: of hurts. But I just feel like there's going to 149 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 3: be somebody that gets caught up and it's going to 150 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:21,680 Speaker 3: be like, all right, enough is enough. And I don't 151 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 3: know who that is. I don't know when that is. 152 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 3: I just don't understand why you would be okay being 153 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 3: that person doesn't make sense, man. 154 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 5: Big big picture. Back to the Sunday football game. Yeah, 155 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:35,440 Speaker 5: the Steelers now at five and four, the Ravens with 156 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 5: a win this week, here they come like here they come, 157 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 5: just roaring back to try to get on top the 158 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 5: AFC North, and it does feel like, you know, we're 159 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 5: now at that point where you know, we're over halfway 160 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 5: through the season and it feels like the Steelers is 161 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 5: just slipping through their hands. Like I don't know, if 162 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 5: you look at their schedule, how many more games you 163 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:00,280 Speaker 5: want to factor in. And I think the other like 164 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:03,240 Speaker 5: high level takeaway from yesterday was going to be the 165 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 5: Bills and what the hell was that that sort of 166 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 5: collapse versus Miami. And maybe we chalk it up to 167 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 5: the divisional opponents knowing each other well, But you don't 168 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 5: see the Bills very often lay an egg. And that's 169 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 5: one of those that makes you scratch your head and go, 170 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 5: all right, maybe they're not going to win the division, like, 171 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 5: maybe they're not going to be one of those top seeds, 172 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 5: and maybe it is going to be the Patriots. You know, 173 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 5: there's a lot of doubters before the season who were 174 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:32,959 Speaker 5: doubting the Patriots, and I think that's changed. I think 175 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 5: that's changed for a lot of those doubters. 176 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 2: And also, the AFC North is only going to get 177 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 2: one in the playoffs this year. 178 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:41,080 Speaker 4: It feels like without if you look around it, it'll be 179 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 4: the division winner. Whoever wins that division. 180 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:43,320 Speaker 3: Will get in. 181 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:45,760 Speaker 2: The wild card spots are going to be gobbled up. 182 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:48,480 Speaker 2: And there is and we talked about this a little 183 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:51,200 Speaker 2: bit last week, that there is a world in which 184 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 2: the wild card teams are going to be Buffalo, Kansas City, 185 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:59,200 Speaker 2: and Baltimore, which would be a nightmare scenario for anybody 186 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:02,200 Speaker 2: hosting a playoff game early on. So, yeah, it just 187 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:06,120 Speaker 2: feels like last night and the way Baltimore's playing like 188 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:09,599 Speaker 2: it did seem weird that Baltimore was a four and 189 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 2: a half point favorite at Minnesota, and it's like, well, 190 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 2: and then you looked early on in the game, it 191 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:16,440 Speaker 2: just wasn't It wasn't going. 192 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:16,719 Speaker 3: All that well. 193 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:21,680 Speaker 2: And then ultimately, you know, time ticks off, they run 194 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:25,319 Speaker 2: away with it. Pittsburgh looks awful, and next thing you know, 195 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 2: the Ravens are making a run rough. 196 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:31,720 Speaker 5: Here's their schedule the rest of the season. They host Cincinnati, 197 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 5: so they I mean, I wouldn't say that's a gimme 198 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 5: the way they're playing right now. I mean I would 199 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 5: say Cincinnati's got a more prolific passing attack with forty 200 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:42,840 Speaker 5: year old Flacco than the Steelers do it with Rogers. Yeah, 201 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 5: they go to Chicago, probably will win, depending on who 202 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 5: you ask. The Bills they get the host at home, 203 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 5: then they still have their two games versus Baltimore in 204 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:53,200 Speaker 5: the division, so they have to go at Baltimore week fourteen. 205 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:56,960 Speaker 5: Miami doesn't seem to be giving up. You're at Detroit, 206 00:09:57,520 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 5: and then at Cleveland, which at least has a good defense, 207 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 5: you can say. And then they finished the season week 208 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 5: A T versus Baltimore, which very likely before that one 209 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:08,440 Speaker 5: playoff spot you're talking about. 210 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:12,160 Speaker 2: Let me see what the odds to make the playoffs 211 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:16,000 Speaker 2: are from from either side or just I mean, if 212 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 2: we think that they're just going to be one team 213 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 2: in Curious. 214 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 5: Why you're doing that, let me tell you about DEPEND 215 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 5: depending on the Prostate Cancer Foundation. They're here to remind 216 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 5: you that health is a long gap and screen for 217 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:30,319 Speaker 5: prostate cancer is easier than ever. A simple blood test 218 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 5: can lead to better treatment options and better outcomes. Learn 219 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:33,199 Speaker 5: more at. 220 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:36,320 Speaker 3: DEPEND The bills need to go to Dependence dot Com. 221 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 2: All right, Brady, you're you're pretty good at this. You 222 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:42,160 Speaker 2: want to guess who the favorite is to win the 223 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 2: AFC North right now? 224 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 4: And what the line? 225 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 5: It's definitely Baltimore, do you I would say? It's is 226 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:50,199 Speaker 5: it plus money or is it almost had even money? 227 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:50,680 Speaker 6: Uh? 228 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:54,440 Speaker 2: No, it's definitely not plus money, like definitely really yeah, 229 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:56,720 Speaker 2: definitely already yeah, definitely. 230 00:10:56,760 --> 00:11:00,359 Speaker 5: So what is it like minus one fifty ravens. 231 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:02,000 Speaker 4: Hmmm, a little higher? 232 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:06,960 Speaker 2: Oh wow, Baltimore is a minus two to ninety on 233 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:08,560 Speaker 2: draft games to win the division. 234 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:13,360 Speaker 4: Like there's uh, I mean. 235 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:20,440 Speaker 3: Why wouldn't they be the Browns stink? They they are 236 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:26,079 Speaker 3: quietly one of the funkiest, funk funk stink teams in 237 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:26,560 Speaker 3: the league. 238 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 5: Let me, let me, let me give you a stat 239 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:34,080 Speaker 5: that really speaks to what just happened this past week. 240 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:37,040 Speaker 5: I think they're the first team since they've been tracking 241 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:40,680 Speaker 5: this in NFL history, that's held an opposing offense to 242 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 5: under one hundred and seventy total yards. 243 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 3: That's crazy and lost the game. Yeah, they're good on defense. 244 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:51,320 Speaker 2: Hey, look, Miles Garrett signed up for this. Sorry, he 245 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:53,480 Speaker 2: was talking about super Bowls in the offseason. Then all 246 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 2: of a sudden, they threw a big check at him 247 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 2: and he said, you know what, that's not so bad here. 248 00:11:57,640 --> 00:12:01,679 Speaker 3: Hey, but hey, he is a Cleveland Brown And at 249 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:03,440 Speaker 3: the end of the day, when you throw that type 250 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 3: of scratch somebody's way, I'll get over it. Yeah, Like what, 251 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:12,080 Speaker 3: I don't want to live this way. I don't want 252 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 3: to be a loser. I don't want to be considered 253 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 3: to be a loser. But I'll get over it. I mean, 254 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:21,960 Speaker 3: what's the alternative, Like, go somewhere well, he would have 255 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:24,079 Speaker 3: went somewhere else and got more money to get you 256 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:27,679 Speaker 3: get gat money either way, but they stink. I don't know, 257 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:30,440 Speaker 3: like it's a rat for Stefanski. I know, I know 258 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:33,720 Speaker 3: it might not sound like like the popular thing to say, 259 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:37,720 Speaker 3: but it's a rat like Cleveland Brown blow it up. 260 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 5: Here's all I ask you, guys. Did you guys see 261 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 5: how that game ended? 262 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 3: I did not. I did. 263 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:47,319 Speaker 5: It's fourth and four, the Jets have the ball, Browns 264 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 5: have a chance to get the football back down one 265 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:54,079 Speaker 5: score and you can see Defanski push up the microphone 266 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:57,400 Speaker 5: on his headset and he's yelling out like don't jump. 267 00:12:57,720 --> 00:13:03,960 Speaker 5: They're not throwing up, don't jump, jump and some moron, 268 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:07,319 Speaker 5: I forget who was it was. I forget who was 269 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:11,080 Speaker 5: on there or in their D line, but he jumps 270 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:15,080 Speaker 5: and and they they panned back to Stefanski and he 271 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:16,960 Speaker 5: just he just shakes his head and he takes his 272 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 5: head set off, and I don't know exactly what was said, 273 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 5: but you could imagine the frustration of like that they 274 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:26,360 Speaker 5: were never going to run a play. All they were 275 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:29,200 Speaker 5: doing were trying to get anyone on the defense to 276 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:32,800 Speaker 5: jump off sides and Aaron Glenn celebrating. I mean, it 277 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:36,280 Speaker 5: was like, again, just celebrating a birthday. And I don't 278 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 5: sit there and watching this going I feel bad for Stefanski, 279 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:43,679 Speaker 5: but I really do because in that moment, you know, 280 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:46,040 Speaker 5: I'm every single their defensive lineman. By the way, let's 281 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 5: looked over at him like you idiot, I can't believe 282 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 5: you just did that. So again, you know, will he 283 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 5: potentially be out at the end of the season. Maybe, 284 00:13:55,679 --> 00:13:58,199 Speaker 5: but at some point these players got to start being 285 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:02,280 Speaker 5: accountable for what they're putting out there. And and I'll 286 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 5: say this too, I think Schudor is gonna get a 287 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 5: shot soon because that was it was tough. I mean, 288 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 5: some of the you know, Dylan Gabriel struggle and I 289 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 5: know he's a rookie and I don't want to be 290 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:12,480 Speaker 5: too hard on him because you know, again there's there's 291 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:17,480 Speaker 5: gonna be those growing pains. But man, there's just there's 292 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:19,560 Speaker 5: just too many plays that are there to be made 293 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 5: and it is not worked out. 294 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:25,480 Speaker 2: I believe it was Cameron Thomas number ninety Thomas who 295 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 2: jumped in that spot, by the. 296 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:34,000 Speaker 5: Way, you know, white guy. You know, I just didn't 297 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:37,680 Speaker 5: think that'd be more discipline than that. You know, well, 298 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:41,240 Speaker 5: the scouting report. I looked up the draft profile. It's 299 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:46,400 Speaker 5: good technique, high motor discipline. Yeah, you know, high football 300 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 5: I Q. You know that's what That's what I said. 301 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 5: It was coming out of San Diego State four years ago. 302 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 3: Sounds very Yeah. 303 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:54,360 Speaker 5: I'm just telling you what that was his that was 304 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 5: his draft prospect report. You know, you know, limited athlete, 305 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:01,880 Speaker 5: but you know, smart football player, good technique, high motor, 306 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:03,080 Speaker 5: brings his lunch pill to work. 307 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 6: Yeah. 308 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 5: I was like, well, then, sound like a guy who 309 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:08,040 Speaker 5: would jump off sides in the one moment where you 310 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 5: know they're not going to run a play. 311 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:10,400 Speaker 4: By the way, speaking of San. 312 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 3: Diego, they better run a twenty three and. 313 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:14,480 Speaker 5: Meter on him. 314 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 3: He might have he might have something. Then there you know, 315 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 3: like what you go far enough back, you know. I mean, 316 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 3: I'm just saying. 317 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 2: That's why he jumped off side and he's not not 318 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:29,640 Speaker 2: legit twenty twenty three and me uh and speaking of 319 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:32,240 Speaker 2: San Diego State, they got that work from Hawaii this weekend, 320 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 2: so maybe he was a little bit a little bit 321 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 2: shook up after that. 322 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:37,080 Speaker 4: Maybe that's why he jumped off side. 323 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 3: So there you go. 324 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 1: Be sure to catch live editions of two Pros and 325 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 1: a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Arrington and 326 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 1: Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern, three am Pacific 327 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:53,680 Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. Fox Sports 328 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:56,760 Speaker 1: Radio is taking over YouTube and you can be a 329 00:15:56,760 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 1: part of it. 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So, uh, yesterday the Detroit Lions annihilated 338 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:33,440 Speaker 2: the Washington Commanders in front of President Trump all right, 339 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:37,080 Speaker 2: who was on the call, was on the call. 340 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 4: He was in the booth on Fox. 341 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 2: You know, breaking down the game and uh and talking 342 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 2: Alman Ross. Saint Brown did the Trump Dance to him 343 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:50,320 Speaker 2: at some point during that game, and it was just 344 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:54,360 Speaker 2: a total annihilation. The Lions looked really good. A story 345 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:56,160 Speaker 2: that kind of flew under the radar. 346 00:16:55,880 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 3: Though, as people know, flew under the radar. 347 00:16:57,960 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 2: Well, Dan Campbell was calling plays and it's interesting because. 348 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:06,440 Speaker 3: They were annihilating the Washington Commanders. 349 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:09,960 Speaker 2: So, you know, John Morton, who was the first year 350 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:14,240 Speaker 2: offensive coordinator, apparently Dan Campbell was not happy with the 351 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:17,360 Speaker 2: way things were going. He decided to make the switch. 352 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:20,119 Speaker 2: And Dan Campbell spoke about the switch afterwards. 353 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:22,119 Speaker 7: You know, it was just let's let's try something a 354 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 7: little different, right, you know, and if I know what 355 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:25,919 Speaker 7: I want to do, I know how I want to 356 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:28,960 Speaker 7: do it. Now that being said, this is a collaborative effort. Now, 357 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:31,200 Speaker 7: I mean I was taking you know, input from John 358 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:33,960 Speaker 7: Morton that whole time and the other coaches. So hey, man, 359 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:35,120 Speaker 7: what do you think here? Third down? 360 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:35,439 Speaker 3: All right? 361 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:36,440 Speaker 7: We get into this third. 362 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:37,840 Speaker 3: And seven plus blah blah blah blah blah, All right, 363 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 3: where are we at? 364 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:41,160 Speaker 7: Give me to This is all encompassing, you know, man, 365 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:43,440 Speaker 7: we all worked together. Coaches did a hell of a job. 366 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:45,920 Speaker 7: But I just wanted to change it up a little bit. 367 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:48,399 Speaker 7: You know, Let's just see if maybe a different play 368 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 7: caller can can you know, maybe get us a little rhythm. 369 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 7: That's all. 370 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:55,360 Speaker 3: And that's his that's his prerogative. 371 00:17:55,480 --> 00:18:00,440 Speaker 4: Okay, but like you basically cut John Morton's balls off. 372 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 3: No, you did it. No, you did not. You didn't 373 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:05,840 Speaker 3: cut it. You did it. I don't believe that does that. 374 00:18:06,119 --> 00:18:08,119 Speaker 2: We're ten weeks into the season. You've already taken the 375 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:09,760 Speaker 2: job away from it. It's not like they're bad. 376 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 3: I don't think you've taken the job away from him. 377 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 3: You just it's a more collaborative effort, like he said, 378 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:21,200 Speaker 3: it's it's more of a collaboration. As a head coach. 379 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 3: You have the right to to do that, like, yeah, 380 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:28,960 Speaker 3: and cut his balls off, like he said, there's still call. 381 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:31,080 Speaker 3: He's still a part of the plays. He's still the 382 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:35,920 Speaker 3: offensive coordinator. Did his title change, did his paycheck change? 383 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:39,560 Speaker 2: He's not calling plays though he was called, but he 384 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:42,680 Speaker 2: was calling plays and now he's not well. 385 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:45,320 Speaker 5: And then the truth of this, though, is they probably 386 00:18:45,359 --> 00:18:48,960 Speaker 5: always were collaborative, even when John Morton was calling the plays, 387 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:53,479 Speaker 5: because that's how it usually works. Yeah, most play callers 388 00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:56,919 Speaker 5: take into consideration all of it. So I do I 389 00:18:56,960 --> 00:18:59,720 Speaker 5: do call into question, Like, all right, then, clearly you 390 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:01,359 Speaker 5: want to put your own stamp on some of the 391 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:03,800 Speaker 5: final decisions on what you were doing and you didn't 392 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:05,960 Speaker 5: like how the rhythm was with Morton, which is fine. 393 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:07,879 Speaker 3: That's more what it That's more what it is. I 394 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 3: don't think it's a ball chopping exercise. I just think 395 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:13,440 Speaker 3: that maybe that's where he's at. But go at finish point. 396 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:15,479 Speaker 5: But that's but that's Jonas. You know Jonas wants to 397 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:20,840 Speaker 5: castraight everyone it can geez, I uh, well take it 398 00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:30,600 Speaker 5: away from me. Then I would say this, most most 399 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 5: play callers, they they don't know what their identity is 400 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:37,120 Speaker 5: as a play caller until they until they actually start 401 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:39,960 Speaker 5: calling plays. And what you end up finding out is 402 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:42,960 Speaker 5: once you watch the tape, what's your true identity is? 403 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:46,200 Speaker 5: You know how you really respond when your quarterback throws 404 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:48,800 Speaker 5: a pick how or your running back fumbles? You know 405 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 5: how you respond if they're able to get pressure on 406 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:53,880 Speaker 5: you multiple times, like do you believe in the boys 407 00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:55,000 Speaker 5: up front to be able to hold up when you 408 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 5: need him to on third down and everyone knows you 409 00:19:56,560 --> 00:19:59,240 Speaker 5: have to throw in its third and a plus third 410 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 5: and seven plus. You know, you start to find those 411 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:04,920 Speaker 5: things out about yourself as a play card. I don't 412 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:08,119 Speaker 5: know that you know, John Warnet had enough time to 413 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:11,480 Speaker 5: really call plays to get a feel for that. But 414 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:14,200 Speaker 5: I think I don't think Dan Campbell wanted to wait. 415 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 5: I think he's like, look, I know what our team is. 416 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:18,920 Speaker 5: I know that the identity of our team. I've done 417 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:21,080 Speaker 5: this before. I've done it for a while. Like I'd 418 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:23,040 Speaker 5: rather be the one that ultimately has the final say 419 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 5: because we're right in the middle of the hunt for 420 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:27,560 Speaker 5: the division. We're in the middle of the hunt for 421 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 5: a playoff spot, and I don't want games to slip 422 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:32,639 Speaker 5: away because I feel like we're lacking finding a rhythm 423 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:34,639 Speaker 5: and I've got the experience where I feel like I 424 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 5: can get us into one and clearly versus Washington, they 425 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:38,280 Speaker 5: were able to do so. 426 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:42,920 Speaker 2: Or he still had a red ass over that playoff 427 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:45,080 Speaker 2: game against Washington last year and he wanted to make 428 00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:45,640 Speaker 2: a statement. 429 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 3: I mean, that's always possible as well. But again, just 430 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:55,480 Speaker 3: like he chose to call plays yesterday, he could choose 431 00:20:55,520 --> 00:21:00,840 Speaker 3: to go back to to oh see, it's not like, oh, well, 432 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:03,760 Speaker 3: those balls is gone now, I don't know what we're 433 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 3: going to do. Like, no, it's not that that doesn't 434 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:10,320 Speaker 3: work that way. It's a collaborative effort, meaning that I 435 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:13,359 Speaker 3: felt like we changed it up, needed a little rhythm. 436 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 3: I felt like I knew what I wanted it to do. 437 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:17,879 Speaker 3: I took the information from him the other guys that 438 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 3: were involved, and this is what we came up with. 439 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:26,400 Speaker 3: It worked. Like I'm pretty sure Andy Reid has done 440 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:29,879 Speaker 3: that with his coordinators for a long time. Some guys 441 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:31,959 Speaker 3: may call the game, you know. It might have been 442 00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:34,359 Speaker 3: Eric biene Me that was like, hey, these are the 443 00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:37,600 Speaker 3: plays we should call. Sometimes it was that Andy Reid said, 444 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:40,160 Speaker 3: these are the plays we need to call. Whichever one 445 00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:42,960 Speaker 3: is finding the rhythm which you feel comfortable with doing. 446 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:46,920 Speaker 3: However it works with the game plan. That's why you're 447 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:50,600 Speaker 3: a head coach, is to make decisions that are ultimately 448 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:54,480 Speaker 3: going to lead to the success of your team. You know, 449 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:57,320 Speaker 3: if somebody feels good about it, you're feeling good about it. 450 00:21:57,400 --> 00:21:59,880 Speaker 3: If it's not working, you may want to You may 451 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:03,280 Speaker 3: get involved that halftime, you know, like I'll take it 452 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:06,560 Speaker 3: from here, like we'll go from here. You know, I 453 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:07,000 Speaker 3: don't know. 454 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 2: If you're tasked to make those decisions. Why'd you hire 455 00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:11,680 Speaker 2: him to be the play caller and then ten weeks 456 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:13,439 Speaker 2: in you took it away from him. He cut his 457 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:15,320 Speaker 2: balls off and threw it out the car windows. 458 00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:20,440 Speaker 3: What happened, sheez. I don't see it being that extreme. 459 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 3: I just think that this is what they had, This 460 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:27,840 Speaker 3: was the situation. It worked, like having humility, being a 461 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:32,280 Speaker 3: good team player, being able to work together well with others. 462 00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:35,560 Speaker 3: Those are the things. Those are the characteristics that play 463 00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:40,040 Speaker 3: out for successful teams, and no matter what the industry is, 464 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 3: and I don't think that there should be this crazy 465 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:47,600 Speaker 3: approach to ego in this type of circumstance. In fact, 466 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 3: I don't think it needs to be that large of 467 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:54,840 Speaker 3: a conversation as it applies to him making that move 468 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:57,400 Speaker 3: the way that he did. It was a successful move. 469 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:00,320 Speaker 3: Sometimes it isn't. Now I think it's or of a 470 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:04,040 Speaker 3: conversation if you did it and it didn't work, because 471 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:06,399 Speaker 3: now it's like, all right, what do you do? You 472 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:09,560 Speaker 3: felt like we needed to change up. You changed it 473 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:12,639 Speaker 3: up and you didn't win. Like, now, that's a conversation. 474 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:15,800 Speaker 3: But as far as what they did yesterday and how 475 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:19,159 Speaker 3: impressive that victory was, I don't think that that turns 476 00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:21,959 Speaker 3: into a major conversation based off of the results. So 477 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:25,520 Speaker 3: he gets to walk forward and say, hey, we needed 478 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:27,760 Speaker 3: to change up. That's what we did. Look at what 479 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:31,239 Speaker 3: our results were. And the offensive coordinator. His balls are 480 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:33,879 Speaker 3: very well intact. He's good to go. He's still to 481 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:37,000 Speaker 3: OC and maybe it's back to him being the guy 482 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:40,400 Speaker 3: that calls the plays until he won. Listen, I've done 483 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:43,080 Speaker 3: that before. I've done that before. Like I was watching 484 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:45,360 Speaker 3: to get oh yeah, I took to play calling duties 485 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 3: from off of the offensive coordinator during the game. Absolutely 486 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:52,040 Speaker 3: shouts out to my man Dean, great great coach, great 487 00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:55,360 Speaker 3: offensive coordinator. Like we talked about what we saw during 488 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:57,520 Speaker 3: the course of the game and the headphones, what we're like, 489 00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:00,960 Speaker 3: what coverages they're running, you know, who's there best players, Like, 490 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:04,959 Speaker 3: where are our matchups and stuff like that, and you know, 491 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:08,240 Speaker 3: with the information that we had, I was thinking of plays. 492 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:12,240 Speaker 3: The plays I were hearing weren't matching the sets that 493 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:14,920 Speaker 3: I thought we could have success with. So I said, 494 00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:16,919 Speaker 3: let me take it. I'll take it from here, like 495 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:17,600 Speaker 3: I'll take. 496 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 4: It your guys. Relationship was never the same after that. 497 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:22,479 Speaker 3: I mean, you know what I did. He did go 498 00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 3: to a different school after He did go to a 499 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:30,000 Speaker 3: different school after that season, But we did make it 500 00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:33,560 Speaker 3: to the playoffs and we only lost one game. After 501 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:35,959 Speaker 3: I did stay to play caller. I just took him 502 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,399 Speaker 3: over for that game. That was all. You know. He 503 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:40,280 Speaker 3: was trying to throw the ball way too much. 504 00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:40,520 Speaker 6: Man. 505 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:43,560 Speaker 3: We needed like like listen, the run is there, Like 506 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:45,680 Speaker 3: we got it, Like the run is there, we gotta 507 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:47,480 Speaker 3: do it. Like he kept throwing. I was like, all right, 508 00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:49,560 Speaker 3: let me take it from here. We did end up 509 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:50,160 Speaker 3: winning the game. 510 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:53,399 Speaker 1: To be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros 511 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:56,480 Speaker 1: and a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington 512 00:24:56,520 --> 00:25:00,960 Speaker 1: and Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern. Yeah, I'm pacific. 513 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:03,480 Speaker 3: I can hear Pete, Like in my mind, I get 514 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:07,640 Speaker 3: a mental image of Pete Prisco playing the saxophone in 515 00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 3: this this smooth Operator. So yeah, I don't know why. 516 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:13,920 Speaker 3: I guess it's been connected to him so much coming 517 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:16,800 Speaker 3: into the show. I can see him in my head 518 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:19,920 Speaker 3: playing a saxophone. Can you play saxophone? Pete? 519 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:23,359 Speaker 6: What do you think? I'm Kenny g No, I. 520 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:25,879 Speaker 3: Ain't gonna go that far. I ain't gonna you've played. 521 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 6: Yeah, I haven't. I haven't played an instrument in my 522 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:30,720 Speaker 6: entire life. 523 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:33,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, but you probably put some Kenny gr while you're 524 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:35,240 Speaker 5: getting to be a smooth operator. 525 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:39,760 Speaker 6: WHOA No, but I'll tell you this if I if 526 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:42,080 Speaker 6: I was ever to play an instrument, I would be 527 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:42,680 Speaker 6: a drummer. 528 00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 3: Okay, why is that, Pete? 529 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:50,400 Speaker 6: You can take on aggression on that damn thing. You can. 530 00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:52,240 Speaker 6: That's why I would be a drummer. 531 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:55,680 Speaker 3: They call you little drummer, the drum What would. 532 00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:57,960 Speaker 6: You I'd love to hear what instrument you would play? 533 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:02,960 Speaker 3: You know what's interesting, Pete. I played the clarinet as 534 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:05,879 Speaker 3: a first instrument and was pretty good at it. And 535 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:08,680 Speaker 3: then I played every saxophone all the way up until 536 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:13,479 Speaker 3: the ninth grade. Uh, the alto sacks, the sax and 537 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:16,840 Speaker 3: the baritone sacks, and actually was going to try to 538 00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:19,600 Speaker 3: I was going I was trying to figure out how 539 00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:22,160 Speaker 3: I could be in the marching band and play football 540 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:24,320 Speaker 3: at the same time. But I ended up choosing football. 541 00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:25,800 Speaker 3: So wow, that's a true store. 542 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:28,720 Speaker 6: So a dork and an athlete on one who knew. 543 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:35,440 Speaker 3: Don't tell anybody, Pete, damn tell that for that. Oh No, 544 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:40,120 Speaker 3: I was third seat. I wasn't I wasn't first seat. 545 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:42,280 Speaker 3: I wasn't that good, but I was third seat. Now. 546 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:44,600 Speaker 3: I was best with the baritone, like the big one. 547 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:47,359 Speaker 3: I was really good played in the symphony like played 548 00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:47,920 Speaker 3: in a show. 549 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:50,920 Speaker 6: So wow, yeah, there you go. 550 00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:54,879 Speaker 5: Interesting trivia levard told me he plays the pocket flew best. 551 00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:57,959 Speaker 3: There you go. I mean generally I keep the flute 552 00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:00,960 Speaker 3: in the pocket. So ap. 553 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:04,440 Speaker 4: Pete, what happened to your jaguars yesterday? 554 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:08,080 Speaker 6: They're not my jaguars. But that's one of the great 555 00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:11,080 Speaker 6: chokes in the history of football. I mean, my god. Up, 556 00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:15,359 Speaker 6: you're up nineteen in the fourth quarter against Davis Mills 557 00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:17,320 Speaker 6: and you can't hold that lead. I mean, my god, 558 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:21,400 Speaker 6: it's a terrible, terrible loss. And they got a lot 559 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:23,399 Speaker 6: of issues. They can't rush the passer. I mean they 560 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:26,240 Speaker 6: put a lot of money and assets into that pass rush. 561 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:30,240 Speaker 6: They paid Josh heinz Allen, they drafted Javon Walker first overall. 562 00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:32,400 Speaker 6: And they can't get to the quarterback with four man pressure. 563 00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:34,480 Speaker 6: And when they blitzed, they have nobody in the back 564 00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:36,720 Speaker 6: end who can cover her. So it's a bad combination. 565 00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:39,200 Speaker 6: And Trevor Lawrens is't playing very well and you've got 566 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:42,520 Speaker 6: major questions about him. Now does he process past enough, 567 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:44,440 Speaker 6: does he get the ball out? Does he hold the ball? 568 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:46,919 Speaker 6: It wasn't on him. He didn't lose that game. When 569 00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:48,920 Speaker 6: you're up nineteen to the fourth quarter. You're supposed to 570 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:52,040 Speaker 6: win that game, so they have issues, and that was 571 00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:53,760 Speaker 6: a game. If you win that, you're six and three 572 00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:56,879 Speaker 6: and you're sitting there saying, Okay, they can win, you know, 573 00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:59,960 Speaker 6: for the next seven games and become a playoff team. 574 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:01,800 Speaker 6: Well now all of a sudden you're looking at it 575 00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:03,920 Speaker 6: and saying, well, probably not because they're not very good. 576 00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:07,800 Speaker 5: On that note, did you think that maybe they should 577 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:09,680 Speaker 5: have at least attempted the field goal? I think it 578 00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:11,959 Speaker 5: would have been like a seventy five yarder or something. 579 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:14,280 Speaker 5: But was there ever a thought on that drive? Like 580 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:17,399 Speaker 5: I kind of didn't like how they had called that. 581 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:22,720 Speaker 5: Just the entire thing, even like the was a scramble 582 00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:24,679 Speaker 5: or sack that ended up Trevor want and I've taken it. 583 00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:26,240 Speaker 5: Just the whole thing down the stretch just seemed a 584 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:27,320 Speaker 5: little discombobulated. 585 00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:30,239 Speaker 6: But did you think they should They would have had 586 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:32,159 Speaker 6: a sixty yard field goal, remember, but then they had 587 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:34,280 Speaker 6: to play callback for a hands to the face. 588 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:37,119 Speaker 5: Right the play before that, where I was kind of thinking, 589 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:39,479 Speaker 5: like I, they're trying to get too much on one 590 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:41,520 Speaker 5: of those plays instead of trying to get like a 591 00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:43,480 Speaker 5: quick five ten yards and just kick the field goal 592 00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:45,680 Speaker 5: like that kid showed he's got the leg to do it. 593 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:48,480 Speaker 5: He's made one from seventy before, granted preseason. 594 00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:51,280 Speaker 6: But still, Brady, they were they couldn't. It would have 595 00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:52,800 Speaker 6: been like an eighty yarder. They weren't going to be 596 00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:56,040 Speaker 6: able to do that. I mean, if you know, look, 597 00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:58,720 Speaker 6: he scrambled to get what twenty something yards to get 598 00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:01,000 Speaker 6: it to play, and he threw that shot to the 599 00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:02,920 Speaker 6: sideline and he caught it and they got called back 600 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:03,800 Speaker 6: for Hanson face. 601 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:06,600 Speaker 5: And an alien seven seconds left, right, what we're saying 602 00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:09,760 Speaker 5: play on that final play though, they should have went 603 00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:12,280 Speaker 5: quick to the out of bounds, right, because you'll have 604 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:14,440 Speaker 5: seven seconds. It's either going to be a hell Mary 605 00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:16,480 Speaker 5: from where they were or a quick out of bounds 606 00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:18,400 Speaker 5: and then you set up the field goal. And it 607 00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:20,120 Speaker 5: feels like they did kind of neither in that case. 608 00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:22,520 Speaker 5: But that being said, the fact that Houston kept playing 609 00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:25,280 Speaker 5: Manda Man down the stretch there and like they gave 610 00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:27,680 Speaker 5: up obviously that run playing like one robber. I'm sitting 611 00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:30,040 Speaker 5: there going what are you doing? I mean, it was 612 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:33,320 Speaker 5: almost a dramatic collapse by Houston. If jacksonvill would have 613 00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:35,280 Speaker 5: turn around to won that base in their defense. I 614 00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:39,240 Speaker 5: want to transition that game anyway, because it wasn't great. Buffalo, 615 00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:41,280 Speaker 5: What the hell happened to your bills yesterday? 616 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:45,600 Speaker 3: Dang, you're jack wing your bills Prisco, Well that was 617 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:47,040 Speaker 3: that was a. 618 00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:49,960 Speaker 6: Terrible defensive showing. And if they don't stop the run 619 00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:52,280 Speaker 6: any better than they've been doing, it doesn't matter what 620 00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:54,240 Speaker 6: they do on offense or what they do anywhere else, 621 00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:56,320 Speaker 6: because the teams will just gash them. I mean, two 622 00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:59,440 Speaker 6: hundred yards rushing from Miami. It can't happen. And it's 623 00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:01,840 Speaker 6: been on going problem. They give up the third most 624 00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:05,120 Speaker 6: yards in the league on the ground and it's been 625 00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:07,520 Speaker 6: it seems to have been an issue for a long 626 00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:09,680 Speaker 6: long time now. They tried the trade for Quinn Williams. 627 00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:12,040 Speaker 6: The Jets wouldn't trade inside the division with them, so 628 00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:15,680 Speaker 6: they clearly know they have a problem there. And again, though, Brady, 629 00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:17,800 Speaker 6: in this league, we saw a couple we thought last 630 00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:20,920 Speaker 6: week with Green Bay losing to Carolina after they beat 631 00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:23,640 Speaker 6: the Steelers on the road, and you guys played the game. 632 00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:26,280 Speaker 6: Why is it so damn hard to get up two 633 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:28,240 Speaker 6: weeks in a row? Why is that a problem? I 634 00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:30,680 Speaker 6: don't I don't understand that for the. 635 00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:33,640 Speaker 5: Life of me, because the margins aren't as big as 636 00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:35,920 Speaker 5: you think. The margins between the best and the next 637 00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:38,120 Speaker 5: guy aren't as big as you and everyone else on 638 00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:38,880 Speaker 5: the outside things. 639 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:40,960 Speaker 6: I agree with you. I agree with you, they're not 640 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:41,560 Speaker 6: that different. 641 00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:45,840 Speaker 3: You don't know, Pete. You can't handle the truth, Pete. 642 00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:50,640 Speaker 6: I know the margins aren't that great. But why is 643 00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:53,640 Speaker 6: it that you can be what you are one week 644 00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:55,920 Speaker 6: and then what you're not the next week. That's why 645 00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:58,000 Speaker 6: what you are no go play. 646 00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:01,360 Speaker 5: I think the difference we've talked about this for the 647 00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:04,440 Speaker 5: difference to me has always been the floor of the 648 00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:07,120 Speaker 5: best is so much higher than the next guy. And 649 00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:09,320 Speaker 5: I think the problem is sometimes you get that next 650 00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:11,640 Speaker 5: guy playing at his best, and you get a guy 651 00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:13,680 Speaker 5: who's one of the best in the league playing at 652 00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:16,840 Speaker 5: his floor, and sometimes the lesser guy wins out. You know, 653 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:19,760 Speaker 5: I think that's what you see sometimes, Like you, you 654 00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:21,840 Speaker 5: do this whole. You are what you are. The problem 655 00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:25,120 Speaker 5: is for most players, they're not as consistent as the 656 00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:28,040 Speaker 5: very best, and so that's what you see as you 657 00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:30,760 Speaker 5: see these outlier games where guys play up to their ability. 658 00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:33,400 Speaker 5: They just can't play up to that as consistently well 659 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:35,120 Speaker 5: as some of the best players, if that makes sense. 660 00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:38,720 Speaker 6: Yeah, but there's gotta be more to it. I mean, 661 00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:40,640 Speaker 6: you can't. 662 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:46,560 Speaker 3: Maybe it's retrograde or something like that that plays a 663 00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:49,640 Speaker 3: part and why guys are different from time to time. 664 00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:53,640 Speaker 3: Like it could be the gravitational pool. Some people may 665 00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:55,760 Speaker 3: be on their time, It could be you know, it 666 00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:59,120 Speaker 3: could this could be anything and everything that could be. 667 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:02,240 Speaker 6: Or you get anybody ever put that one out there. 668 00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:04,360 Speaker 6: You're just not as focused in here, lazy in a 669 00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:06,120 Speaker 6: game like that. You're not as focused as you are. 670 00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:08,560 Speaker 6: Nobody ever puts that one out there. Well, that's the 671 00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:11,600 Speaker 6: reality of it. If and ultimately it falls at the 672 00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:13,920 Speaker 6: foot of the coach. If your team isn't ready to 673 00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:16,640 Speaker 6: play against a bad team and you lose that game, 674 00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:19,680 Speaker 6: that's on you. It's on the coach and it's on 675 00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:21,760 Speaker 6: the players. It just doesn't make sense to me. You're 676 00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:24,120 Speaker 6: not supposed to lose those games in Buffalo was exhibit A, 677 00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:26,840 Speaker 6: and Green Bay was exhibit B last week when they 678 00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:29,120 Speaker 6: lost it home to that crappy Carolina team. 679 00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:32,800 Speaker 3: You know, Pete, I'm a bird watcher from time to time, 680 00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:35,480 Speaker 3: and every once in a while, I'll see a woodpecker 681 00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:38,560 Speaker 3: like maybe you know, going after it, and I'm like, man, 682 00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:41,080 Speaker 3: look at the way that woodpecker is pecking that wood, 683 00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:44,200 Speaker 3: and you know what, the results are good and it 684 00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:47,200 Speaker 3: looks good and the whole looks good, and it's like, dang, 685 00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:50,120 Speaker 3: that woodpecker is pecking that wood. Right then you see 686 00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:52,400 Speaker 3: another one is like that woodpecker is pecking, but that 687 00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:54,920 Speaker 3: wood isn't getting pecked the way I saw that other 688 00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:58,080 Speaker 3: wood pecker pecking that wood. But they're both woodpeckers beat 689 00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:00,280 Speaker 3: And you know what it was because it was a 690 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:03,640 Speaker 3: different tree. So maybe it's just the team that they're 691 00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:06,280 Speaker 3: playing against, like something was different about the team they 692 00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:06,760 Speaker 3: were playing. 693 00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:08,880 Speaker 6: Pete, I thought you were. 694 00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:10,440 Speaker 3: Going, is that still a woodpecker? 695 00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:13,680 Speaker 6: How much? How much good would wood could a woodpecker 696 00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:16,200 Speaker 6: pack of the woodpecker? Would? I mean? Is that what 697 00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:18,320 Speaker 6: that was? What were you doing? Where were you going 698 00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:20,840 Speaker 6: with that? That one? 699 00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:23,800 Speaker 3: Hey, we could add, but I'm just telling you, Pete, 700 00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:26,680 Speaker 3: it just could be as simple as it was a 701 00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:30,040 Speaker 3: different team so you got different results. It doesn't mean 702 00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:33,080 Speaker 3: that it isn't the same player. They're the same player. 703 00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:35,920 Speaker 3: It's just that you were pecking on a different tree. 704 00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:38,440 Speaker 4: That's all, Pete. I'm curious. 705 00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:41,360 Speaker 3: We thought that was pretty good. Guys, Pete, we. 706 00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:45,360 Speaker 2: Were talking about this earlier. I'm curious what your thoughts 707 00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:49,680 Speaker 2: are on this. When you watch Aaron Rodgers last night, 708 00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:51,120 Speaker 2: what do you see? 709 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:57,480 Speaker 6: It? Ish jumpy old quarterback, That's what I saw. It 710 00:33:57,560 --> 00:33:59,360 Speaker 6: didn't look like him. And that, by the way, that 711 00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:01,080 Speaker 6: was the first game where he really looked like that. 712 00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:04,960 Speaker 6: He looked disjointed, he looked like he was sped up. 713 00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:08,160 Speaker 6: He looked like he was missing throws. He looked frustrated 714 00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:08,880 Speaker 6: a lot. 715 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:11,680 Speaker 5: Where his ies coming down, Pete, Yeah, his. 716 00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:13,839 Speaker 6: Ice came down, of course they did. You saw that 717 00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:16,279 Speaker 6: one throw on the goal line where he had he 718 00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:19,920 Speaker 6: clearly chucked and duck on the one throw. I mean yeah, 719 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:22,960 Speaker 6: his eyes came down. So it was a fair performance. 720 00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:26,440 Speaker 6: And it's weird. The Steelers good on offense for a while, 721 00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:30,239 Speaker 6: and then they were horrible on defense, And now the 722 00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:32,000 Speaker 6: defense started to play better, and now they're starting to 723 00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:34,239 Speaker 6: get worse on offense. Like it's hard to figure that 724 00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:35,239 Speaker 6: team out. It really is. 725 00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:40,839 Speaker 5: I was gonna jump out and just ask you about 726 00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:44,239 Speaker 5: Jackson Dart fourth time. He's a bit evaluated for a concussion. 727 00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:48,479 Speaker 5: I mean, it feels like if he continues to play 728 00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:50,080 Speaker 5: this way, he's not gonna going to last for long. 729 00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:51,959 Speaker 5: Is that fair to say? From what you've seen. 730 00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:55,840 Speaker 6: Absolutely, he's reckless. He can't be reckless and play that position, 731 00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:58,839 Speaker 6: and it's got to be he's got to rein it in. 732 00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:01,400 Speaker 6: And by the way, ready, that one came in the pocket. 733 00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:04,000 Speaker 6: I mean, it wasn't like he was running on that one. 734 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:05,920 Speaker 6: He got blasted inside the pocket. But what he was 735 00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:09,000 Speaker 6: doing was trying to stay alive. And you know, you 736 00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:12,240 Speaker 6: played the position at some point, you just going down. 737 00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:14,400 Speaker 6: You know, you can't stay alive. You're not going to 738 00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:16,920 Speaker 6: break every tackle. They're grown men. You're not gonna get 739 00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:18,879 Speaker 6: out of five tackles all the time. So it's time 740 00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:20,640 Speaker 6: to go down. And he took that late, that shot 741 00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:23,560 Speaker 6: late in that whole process. So, yeah, he's reckless and 742 00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:26,560 Speaker 6: you can't play that way. It looks it's fun to watch, 743 00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:28,279 Speaker 6: it's fun to scheme up stuff with him to be 744 00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:31,000 Speaker 6: able to run the ball, but as you know, there's 745 00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:33,000 Speaker 6: some nasty, violent people on the other side of the 746 00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:34,719 Speaker 6: ball that want to take your head off. You have 747 00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:35,560 Speaker 6: to be able to stand. 748 00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:37,000 Speaker 3: Yeah. 749 00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:40,479 Speaker 6: One, Yeah, right, he was one two for sure, one two, 750 00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:42,719 Speaker 6: three four and get the ball out and then if 751 00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:44,120 Speaker 6: you got to check it down, you check it down. 752 00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:46,640 Speaker 6: A checkdown is always better than your quarterback getting outside 753 00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:48,880 Speaker 6: the pocket and being reckless. So I'm with you one 754 00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:53,160 Speaker 6: hundred percent. He can't he cannot have sustainable success playing 755 00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:55,040 Speaker 6: that position the way he's playing it right now. 756 00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:59,279 Speaker 3: What about brisket Persette? You know everybody's trying to get 757 00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:04,520 Speaker 3: rid of Calum Murray for brisket. What would your take 758 00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:08,479 Speaker 3: on that? I mean, do you now reconsider bringing Kyler 759 00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:10,520 Speaker 3: Murray back over having brisket? Like? 760 00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:12,400 Speaker 6: Are we going he's out for a while? 761 00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:14,800 Speaker 3: Are we going turf? Like? What are we doing here? 762 00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:17,360 Speaker 6: Well, they said he's out for a while. Now you 763 00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:20,080 Speaker 6: know the soft benching, They make it look like you're hurt. 764 00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:24,560 Speaker 6: That's what that was. And look, Jacoby Brissette, please, you 765 00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:26,560 Speaker 6: are what you are. Come high. 766 00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:28,080 Speaker 1: He's a backup? 767 00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:31,439 Speaker 6: But we serious? Are we serious? With the look? Kyler 768 00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:33,759 Speaker 6: Murray is probably not the answer in Arizona either have 769 00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:37,360 Speaker 6: been very good, but we're not serious about Jacoby Brissett? 770 00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:39,279 Speaker 6: Or are we's a nice backup? You come in, you 771 00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:41,040 Speaker 6: do some good things and then all of a sudden, 772 00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:43,400 Speaker 6: it's levels off like it always does when you're a 773 00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:46,960 Speaker 6: backup quarterback, And so the reality is he's not the answer. 774 00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:49,480 Speaker 6: But they have a big decision to make on Kyler Murray. 775 00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:51,319 Speaker 6: I don't think there's any doubt about that. Who do 776 00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:53,920 Speaker 6: you think is better Kyler Murray? 777 00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:58,000 Speaker 3: Of course he is, but it doesn't sound like they 778 00:36:58,040 --> 00:36:58,759 Speaker 3: want him back. 779 00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:02,480 Speaker 6: Nobody who's making the Who's that making the noise that 780 00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:06,440 Speaker 6: you bring? Okay, what do you think? Who do you 781 00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:07,040 Speaker 6: think is better? 782 00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:12,040 Speaker 5: I mean again, I think Kyler Murray when healthy, adds 783 00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:14,680 Speaker 5: a different element that Brissette doesn't. But I do think 784 00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:17,319 Speaker 5: Brissett is he's been able to kind of hold his 785 00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:20,200 Speaker 5: own from the pocket. But I think again, if you're 786 00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:22,840 Speaker 5: devising an offense for Caler Murray when's one hundred percent, 787 00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:25,640 Speaker 5: he's just got more dynamic ability to do more. But 788 00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:27,400 Speaker 5: I don't think the margin again is as big as 789 00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:28,160 Speaker 5: people think it is. 790 00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:30,640 Speaker 6: Yeah, he held his own in the pocket yesterday, but 791 00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:33,680 Speaker 6: turning it over for two touchdowns for Demark Lawrence, I 792 00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:34,600 Speaker 6: mean you're using. 793 00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:37,600 Speaker 5: A one game sample size. He he actually he actually 794 00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:44,720 Speaker 5: cowboy well hold on for a second in his career 795 00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:48,000 Speaker 5: because he qualified now for it. He actually had I 796 00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:52,400 Speaker 5: think coming into this past week the best like interception percentage, 797 00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:54,560 Speaker 5: like what the lowest in the history of the NFL. 798 00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:57,120 Speaker 3: Do you even know that? 799 00:37:57,400 --> 00:37:59,480 Speaker 6: Yes? Or you can. You can take all those stats 800 00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:00,520 Speaker 6: and twist them in where you want. 801 00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:02,960 Speaker 5: There's no stats in twisting he was. He was at 802 00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:06,000 Speaker 5: one point three percent. Rogers was at like one point 803 00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:08,400 Speaker 5: four percent for his career. So I'm just saying. 804 00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:13,680 Speaker 3: He information, Pete. I don't use that information against you. 805 00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:16,520 Speaker 6: Do your eyes tell you he's a good quarterback? Yes? 806 00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:16,799 Speaker 6: Or no? 807 00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:19,560 Speaker 5: I think when he's got some help around him, Like 808 00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:22,040 Speaker 5: does it matter right now? Who's that quarterback for them? 809 00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:23,320 Speaker 5: Do you feel like that's a good offense? 810 00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:25,799 Speaker 6: No? I do not. 811 00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:26,960 Speaker 5: Okay, well there you go. 812 00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:29,840 Speaker 6: I do not, But I don't. I don't think he's 813 00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:31,359 Speaker 6: a good quarterback, and I don't think he's ever been 814 00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:32,919 Speaker 6: to a quarterback. I think he's a back quarter. 815 00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:37,760 Speaker 5: I think in the I think in the right situation 816 00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:40,200 Speaker 5: and circumstance, he's he's gonna be able to play it. 817 00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:42,200 Speaker 5: He's gonna be able to to have, you know, a 818 00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:43,879 Speaker 5: successful career without a doubt. 819 00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:45,920 Speaker 6: Let me ask you something, do you know how many teams. 820 00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:47,520 Speaker 6: He's been on, he's. 821 00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:49,040 Speaker 5: Been a lot, but he's also been on and viewed 822 00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:50,000 Speaker 5: as a backup like you do. 823 00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:53,760 Speaker 6: So I mean he's a backup. He's a backup quarterback. 824 00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:55,920 Speaker 6: That's what he is. And look, he's a good backup. 825 00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:58,200 Speaker 6: It's nice to have a good backup. It's an okay job, 826 00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:00,200 Speaker 6: it's a great in fact, it's a great job. But 827 00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:03,480 Speaker 6: that's what you are. You're a backup quarterback. Anybody who 828 00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:05,920 Speaker 6: thinks Jacobe Presaid is a consistent started quarterback in the 829 00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:07,839 Speaker 6: NFL is way off base. 830 00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:11,279 Speaker 5: You said the same thing about Sam Darnold. You said 831 00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:13,680 Speaker 5: the same thing about others that have proven you wrong. 832 00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:16,719 Speaker 4: Pete, eat it there, pe. 833 00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:24,040 Speaker 2: Get it, Pete, Get him on X, get him on Exit. Prisco, 834 00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:29,240 Speaker 2: CBS Senior NFL columns for CBS Sports, CBS Sports HQ Analyst. 835 00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:30,160 Speaker 2: Always a fun time.