WEBVTT - S12, Ep6 | The SLAPP Heard 'Round the World

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<v Speaker 1>By the final day of testimony in the Energy Transfer

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<v Speaker 1>versus Greenpeace trial, it's March thirteenth, and an early spring

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<v Speaker 1>has melted the snow. Kelsey Warren is called as a witness.

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<v Speaker 1>He's Energy Transfer's board chair and largest shareholder, and he

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<v Speaker 1>was CEO when the Dakota Access pipeline was being built.

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<v Speaker 1>Energy Transfer has spent a whole lot of time trying

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<v Speaker 1>to keep Kelsey Warren's testimony out of the courtroom. Their

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<v Speaker 1>lawyers tried to claim that Kelsey didn't have any useful

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<v Speaker 1>information about his own company's famously controversial pipeline. In interviews,

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<v Speaker 1>Kelsey's made it clear that he has strong feelings about

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<v Speaker 1>the standing Rock movement. Here he is on CNBC right

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<v Speaker 1>after the original Greenpeace lawsuit was filed in twenty seventeen.

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<v Speaker 2>What happened to us was tragic coming that lies were

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<v Speaker 2>being told. Tens of millions of dollars were being raised

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<v Speaker 2>by Greenpeace and others based on these lies.

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<v Speaker 1>Kelsey's a pretty sensitive guy. In addition to his island

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<v Speaker 1>and hunter and his collection of exotic animals, he also

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<v Speaker 1>owns a record label and rates his own tender songs

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<v Speaker 1>on the guitar. Jackson Brown is his idol. Kelsey has

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<v Speaker 1>a reputation for using the legal system to lash out

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<v Speaker 1>when he feels his company is unfairly being attacked, which

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<v Speaker 1>is exactly what he thought was happening with the Standing

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<v Speaker 1>Rock movement. It couldn't have helped that his hero, Jackson Brown,

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<v Speaker 1>publicly denounced Kelsey's company's pipeline. Jackson even gave a benefit

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<v Speaker 1>concert in honor of the water protectors.

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<v Speaker 2>We got to do something. Everybody's afraid of these environmental

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<v Speaker 2>groups and the fear that it may look wrong if

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<v Speaker 2>you fight back with these people. But what they did

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<v Speaker 2>to us is wrong and they're going to pay for.

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<v Speaker 1>At the Morton County Courthouse, Kelsey's face appears on the

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<v Speaker 1>flat screen TVs around the courtroom. It's a pre recorded

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<v Speaker 1>video deposition. He has a shock of white hair and

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<v Speaker 1>his eyebrows are furrowed like he's concerned. The lawyer goes

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<v Speaker 1>over how Donald Trump's executive order in twenty seventeen told

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<v Speaker 1>the Army Corps to approve the Dakota Access pipeline's easement,

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<v Speaker 1>and about midway through his testimony, Kelsey drops his first surprise.

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<v Speaker 1>That executive order that allowed energy transfer to start drilling.

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<v Speaker 1>Energy Transfer actually drafted it. Energy Transfers lawyers turned back

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<v Speaker 1>to the question at the heart of the case. Do

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<v Speaker 1>you have any personal knowledge about anything Greenpeace did at

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<v Speaker 1>all in relation to the protests, a lawyer asks from

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<v Speaker 1>off camera. No, Kelsey replies, But then the lawyer asks

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<v Speaker 1>about a different nonprofit called Earth Justice. It's the public

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<v Speaker 1>interest law organization that represented the Standing Rock tribe in

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<v Speaker 1>the early days of its legal fight to stop the pipeline.

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<v Speaker 1>At the name Earth Justice, Kelsey perks up, and I

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<v Speaker 1>can start to see why Energy Transfer might not have

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<v Speaker 1>wanted him to testify. Scumbags, Kelsey says of Earth Justice.

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<v Speaker 1>To be clear, Earth Justice is not Green Peace. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not the organization this suit is against. Why do you

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<v Speaker 1>say that, sir? The lawyer replies. By way of explanation,

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<v Speaker 1>Kelsey begins to describe a meeting he had in December

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<v Speaker 1>twenty sixteen with the Standing Rock Siue chairman, Dave oar Shambo.

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<v Speaker 1>I went there with the intention of working out a

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<v Speaker 1>financial transaction with the chairman, he says. Kelsey starts talking

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<v Speaker 1>about how he tried to make a deal with the

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<v Speaker 1>Standing Rock Sioux chairman to end the protests. As if

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<v Speaker 1>the tribe, not Green Peace, was the one leading the protests.

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<v Speaker 1>Kelsey goes on, I said, Dave, I'm here to make

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<v Speaker 1>a deal with you. Do you want cash? What do

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<v Speaker 1>you want? I said, we own this land up there.

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<v Speaker 1>Kelsey says he offered the chairman the ranch that the

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<v Speaker 1>pipeline company bought, the one that held the sacred sites

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<v Speaker 1>and the drill pad. We could build you a whole

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<v Speaker 1>new school on your reservation. Let's make a deal. He says.

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<v Speaker 1>He made it very clear. Kelsey says of the chairman

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<v Speaker 1>that he could not accept any offer for me that

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<v Speaker 1>involved them backing down again. Kelsey is applying that it

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<v Speaker 1>was the Standing Rocks Sioux tribe, not Green Peace, that

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<v Speaker 1>had the power to end the uprising, and he has

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<v Speaker 1>a surprising theory about why Chairman Davar Shambo refused. It

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<v Speaker 1>was clear to me that he had struck a deal

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<v Speaker 1>with the devil, Kelsey says, and the devil being Earth Justice.

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<v Speaker 1>The lawyer replies, yes. Kelsey. Warren apparently believes that the

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<v Speaker 1>thing that stopped Standing Rocks Chairman Davar Shambo from accepting

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<v Speaker 1>energy transfers deal must have been another competing deal with

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<v Speaker 1>Earth Justice. I read between the lines, and I believe

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<v Speaker 1>that they made a deal and our shambo couldn't make

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<v Speaker 1>a deal with me. He says. I asked Dave oar

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<v Speaker 1>Shambo about this. He told me he did mean to

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<v Speaker 1>discuss safety with Kelsey Warren, but he said he was

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<v Speaker 1>not there to negotiate ending the protests. Back in court,

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<v Speaker 1>the lawyer asks, nothing was said about Greenpeace during that meeting?

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<v Speaker 1>Was it not that I recall? Kelsey replies, we're at

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<v Speaker 1>the finale of the trial. An Energy Transfer's board chair

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<v Speaker 1>has just given us a whole new theory of the

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<v Speaker 1>case which completely contradicts his company's lawsuit. After three and

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<v Speaker 1>a half weeks of testimony and months of my own reporting,

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<v Speaker 1>this case is full of holes. To summarize, we've seen

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<v Speaker 1>that Greenpeace donations in fundraising at Standing Rock only amounted

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<v Speaker 1>to a small fraction of the millions in donations that

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<v Speaker 1>poured into the movement from around the world. Only six

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<v Speaker 1>employees from Greenpeace Inc. Visited Standing Rock out of well

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<v Speaker 1>over ten thousand people who show, and no one from

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<v Speaker 1>Greenpeace International or green Peace Fund ever went the whole

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<v Speaker 1>time this was all going on. The Standing Rock Sioux

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<v Speaker 1>Tribe and other indigenous nations were very publicly fighting the

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<v Speaker 1>pipeline in court. The pipeline company had no ability to

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<v Speaker 1>drill under the river during the protests because they had

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<v Speaker 1>no permission from the US Army Corps of Engineers to

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<v Speaker 1>do that. Meanwhile, Greenpeace's allegedly defamatory statements, including that police

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<v Speaker 1>used violence against nonviolent demonstrators, that the pipeline passes through

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<v Speaker 1>tribal land, and that Energy Transfer deliberately desecrated sacred sites,

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<v Speaker 1>are assertions that the Standing Rock Sioux Tribe and many

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<v Speaker 1>others stand by to this day. Now today, on the

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<v Speaker 1>last day of testimony, Energy Transfer's own board chair has

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<v Speaker 1>a whole nother story of the movement. But will this

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<v Speaker 1>even matter to the jurors? This season of Drilled, we

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<v Speaker 1>bring you slapped the story of an indigenous nation fighting

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<v Speaker 1>for its water, an environmental nonprofit facing extinction, and an

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<v Speaker 1>energy giant using the courts to punish protesters. I'm Alan Brown.

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<v Speaker 1>The Monday after Kelsey Warren's testimony, Energy Transfers lawyer Trey

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<v Speaker 1>Cox steps in front of the jury for his closing statement.

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<v Speaker 1>Trey tells the jurors that Greenpeace employees are master manipulators,

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<v Speaker 1>and deceptive to the core volume on the courtroom drama

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<v Speaker 1>has been turned way up. Think about the mafia, He suggests,

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<v Speaker 1>I got to see a guy about a thing. Did

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<v Speaker 1>you get the package? Sleeps with the fishes? These are

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<v Speaker 1>the type of words that people in conspiracies use as

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<v Speaker 1>words to communicate other things. He says that Green Piece

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<v Speaker 1>relies on similar code words to trick people, like campfire, nonviolent, art, tent, solidarity, out, solidarity,

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<v Speaker 1>and indigenous leadership. These are some of the most deceptive

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<v Speaker 1>words that they use. And when they stand up here

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<v Speaker 1>and they try to use those words, I want you

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<v Speaker 1>to call them out as code words. Tray starts to

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<v Speaker 1>get into the damages what Energy Transfer wants Greenpeace to

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<v Speaker 1>pay them, and he reveals that Energy Transfer isn't just

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<v Speaker 1>looking for the over two hundred and sixty six million

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<v Speaker 1>dollars the company claims they spent on countering the protests.

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<v Speaker 1>They want triple that total, including massive exemplary damages, extra

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<v Speaker 1>money meant to make an example out of green Pieace.

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<v Speaker 1>He tells the jury that ruling an Energy Transfer's favor

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<v Speaker 1>is about more than just this case. It needs to

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<v Speaker 1>be done for Morton County. It needs to be done

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<v Speaker 1>for Morton County's law enforcement, and more importantly, it needs

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<v Speaker 1>to be done for the next community where Greenpeace exploits

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<v Speaker 1>an opportunity to push its agenda at any cost. And

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know whether that's going to be in Louisiana

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<v Speaker 1>or Texas, or Oklahoma or Ohio, but you have the

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<v Speaker 1>responsibility of protecting those others. The Greenpeace organizations present their

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<v Speaker 1>closing statements, a detailed outline of all the inconsistencies and

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<v Speaker 1>holes in energy transfers lawsuit, and Judge gian sends the

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<v Speaker 1>jury to begin their deliberations. And now all there has

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<v Speaker 1>to do is wait. A decision could come in a

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<v Speaker 1>few hours or even a few weeks. Even at this

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<v Speaker 1>point I was not really sure what was going to happen,

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<v Speaker 1>but I figured the best way to get a sense

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<v Speaker 1>of how this might go was to talk to some

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<v Speaker 1>people who are from here. After all, this piece was

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<v Speaker 1>in the hands of Morton County community members. As I

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<v Speaker 1>was driving into Mandan a while back, I had noticed

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<v Speaker 1>a digital sign advertising community Events Testicle Festival at the

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<v Speaker 1>Moose Lodge. It flashed in Neon Red I knew what

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<v Speaker 1>I had to do.

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<v Speaker 3>These are rocky mountain oys juices. Do I need to

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<v Speaker 3>tell who Jim what they're actually made out of? Well, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>well mature bulls, you know, hoof with Danngus whatever you

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<v Speaker 3>want to call it a new big nuts.

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<v Speaker 1>He just made the shape like bigger than his head.

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<v Speaker 3>Well not quite that big, but anyways, Dennis slice them

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<v Speaker 3>and a little.

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<v Speaker 4>That's a lot of.

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<v Speaker 1>Man. Dan's Moose Lodge is packed. The space is half

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<v Speaker 1>dive bar, half events hall, and tonight there's a line

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<v Speaker 1>of people waiting to order Bisenbergers and Rocky Mountain oysters.

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<v Speaker 1>A bunch of tables and chairs are set up for

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<v Speaker 1>people to eat. Dale, who doesn't want to use his

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<v Speaker 1>last name, is a retired rancher. Alongside oil and gas, cattle,

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<v Speaker 1>ranching is one of Morton County's biggest industries, and the

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<v Speaker 1>Testicle Festival takes place every year during calving season.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean it's not terrible. It tastes like a fried thing,

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<v Speaker 4>you know.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to know what people here thought about the

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<v Speaker 1>protests against the Dakota Access pipeline. So I'm working my

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<v Speaker 1>way around the room. I start chatting with Helena Reel

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<v Speaker 1>and Betty Thompson. Both of them grew up on farms.

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<v Speaker 1>I got my first bite of a Rocky Mountain oyster.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm lucky you and you're from where I'm from the

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<v Speaker 5>Twin Cities.

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<v Speaker 1>Originally I grew up in Saint Paul and now I'm

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<v Speaker 1>based in Brooklyn. I asked her about Mandan, North Dakota.

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<v Speaker 4>Man, it's good man. It's a small community that sticks

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<v Speaker 4>up for its fellow Man. I mean, that's what we do.

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<v Speaker 1>What is it like when those protests were going on

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<v Speaker 1>for this community.

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<v Speaker 4>We didn't like it, No, plain and simple, we didn't

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<v Speaker 4>like it. That's all the protesting. And then then they

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<v Speaker 4>closed the roads. You couldn't go anywhere. Then they come

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<v Speaker 4>to Manden, they're marching down main street with dead pigs. Really,

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<v Speaker 4>who does that?

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<v Speaker 1>Wondering what Betty and Helena think about Greenpeace's argument that

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<v Speaker 1>people from here are too biased to be neutral jurors.

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<v Speaker 1>Part of the reason I want to talk to people

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<v Speaker 1>in Mandan is because one of the things they're trying

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<v Speaker 1>to argue is that the trial should not be held

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<v Speaker 1>here because there's it would be impossible to find someone

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<v Speaker 1>who's totally unbiased on the subject.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I agree, agree, Lena.

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<v Speaker 1>Says, there's another guy I should talk to. She introduces

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<v Speaker 1>me to a rancher named Jim, who also doesn't want

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<v Speaker 1>to use his last name. His family has a ranch

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<v Speaker 1>not far from where the anti pipeline camps were located,

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<v Speaker 1>and he says he and his neighbors felt unsafe.

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<v Speaker 6>I was repeatedly threatened, chased up and down the highway.

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<v Speaker 6>They'd follow me from our rams thirty miles south all

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<v Speaker 6>the way to town, follow me around town until I

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<v Speaker 6>would stop to confronting. Then they'd take off. The I

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<v Speaker 6>was spied on, threatened. In the middle of the night,

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<v Speaker 6>they'd be in our yard. I'd catch him. I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>Jim says he's convinced that what he experienced didn't come

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<v Speaker 1>from people from the standing rocks.

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<v Speaker 6>You tried and they say it was outside or string

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<v Speaker 6>things up. That was our view of it, because there

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<v Speaker 6>was never We never had issues with anybody that we

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<v Speaker 6>knew locally. When you had issues and when I got

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<v Speaker 6>you know, you'd catch people in my yard sneaking in there.

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<v Speaker 6>It was always people from where are you from? Oh,

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<v Speaker 6>I come up from Nebraska or I you know. It

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<v Speaker 6>was never local people.

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<v Speaker 1>Right Dale is listening in he shares who he thinks

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<v Speaker 1>those outsiders were.

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<v Speaker 3>Greenpeace was behind it. You know, they always take that

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<v Speaker 3>anonymous thing, you know across the world, right, Jim, they

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<v Speaker 3>take that honest. They always stand in the backgrounds and

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<v Speaker 3>they agitate, is what they do.

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<v Speaker 1>What I mean, what makes you think that? What did

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<v Speaker 1>you hear about them?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, because their name came up many times during the protests, Greenpeace,

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<v Speaker 3>Did it came up?

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<v Speaker 4>Right?

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<v Speaker 7>Oh?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, that's why I believe they were behind it.

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<v Speaker 3>But they were behind a lot of protests.

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<v Speaker 1>I asked Dale and his friend what they think of

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<v Speaker 1>the damage. Claims we're trying to get green Peace to

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<v Speaker 1>pay for everything, and they should.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm the point where they broke They had no business here.

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<v Speaker 1>No people I'm talking to are convinced that outsiders drove

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<v Speaker 1>these protests. But it's also clear that what happened continues

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<v Speaker 1>to impact relationships among people who are from here. For example,

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<v Speaker 1>Dale says he doesn't go to Standing Rocks Prairie Night's

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<v Speaker 1>Casino anymore. That tension is still there eight years later,

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<v Speaker 1>especially between white and Native people. According to Dale.

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<v Speaker 3>He's just right under the surface right now.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, our conversation meanders and we start talking about

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<v Speaker 1>what Morton County is like. I asked Dale about the

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<v Speaker 1>oil boom that began in the mid two thousands.

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<v Speaker 3>When the boom happened, Oh yeah, oh man, it was crazy.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean they came from all over. I mean I'd

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<v Speaker 3>never seen hooko's walking on the street before. Yes, absolutely,

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<v Speaker 3>it was crazy. I couldn't believe. It gives me goosebump

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<v Speaker 3>just talking about it right now. The crime weight just

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<v Speaker 3>went straight up. Yes, I mean, it brought in the

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<v Speaker 3>riff raft, is what it did. All the towns were affected.

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<v Speaker 3>Meth labs were popping up all over the place. Yes, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>oh yeah. The drugs were just crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>Dale says. Law enforcement eventually got a handle on it

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<v Speaker 1>and things calmed down. I asked if there was good

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<v Speaker 1>things that came out of the boom.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, the money, you know, the money. It's always

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<v Speaker 3>about the money, you know.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Now all the cities get money, like Multon counties. I

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<v Speaker 3>think you will impacted by the oil, so they get

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<v Speaker 3>money out of that.

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<v Speaker 1>Dale's story about the boom makes me think during the

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<v Speaker 1>Standing Rock Movement, a camp of ten thousand people popped

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<v Speaker 1>up suddenly in the middle of the prairie. It was

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<v Speaker 1>a different kind of boom town, and it kind of

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<v Speaker 1>makes sense that that would result in some chaos for

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<v Speaker 1>the existing community. And at the end of this boom,

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<v Speaker 1>the people of Morton County didn't get rewarded with the

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<v Speaker 1>kind of money that came with the oil boom. It's

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<v Speaker 1>making more and more sense to me why people from

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<v Speaker 1>here feel so negatively towards the Standing Rock movement. But

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<v Speaker 1>I am fully aware that the testicle festival folks aren't

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<v Speaker 1>the only ones with a perspective on both the oil

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<v Speaker 1>boom and protests. So I meet up with another local

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<v Speaker 1>outside the courthouse. Candy moss at White works for the

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<v Speaker 1>Indigenous Environmental Network. Her boss is that guy Tom Goldtooth

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<v Speaker 1>who was talking to Green Peace about the settlement. You

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<v Speaker 1>spent months at the anti pipeline camps and she sat

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<v Speaker 1>in on some of the trial. I'm just curious how

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<v Speaker 1>long you've lived here and what this place is like.

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<v Speaker 8>So, first of all, I was born and raised in

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<v Speaker 8>North Dakota.

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<v Speaker 1>Candy is a member of the Mandan, Hidatsa and a

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<v Speaker 1>Ricara tribe. Specifically, she's a Mandan, part of the indigenous

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<v Speaker 1>nation that this town was named after. Now she lives

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<v Speaker 1>in Bismarck, but she grew up on the Fort Bertold

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<v Speaker 1>Reservation northwest of here.

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<v Speaker 8>Well, that's in the heart of the backan where the

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<v Speaker 8>oil is coming from that flows through the pipeline.

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<v Speaker 1>She has another view of what an oil boom can do.

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<v Speaker 8>I'm myself am a cancer survivor for some reason. I

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<v Speaker 8>survived a stage four s Orkoma tumor when I was

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<v Speaker 8>like twenty and a lot of my people, are my relatives,

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<v Speaker 8>are people back home, didn't win that battle, And there's

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<v Speaker 8>so many cancers. Everybody's sick, every single kind of cancer

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<v Speaker 8>that you can imagine.

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<v Speaker 1>Candy blames a lot of this on the oil and

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<v Speaker 1>gas industry. Bismarck is home for Candy, but she says

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<v Speaker 1>it's not always an easy place.

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<v Speaker 8>There's racism here. There's a mentality that, oh, those natives,

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<v Speaker 8>there's those drunks, and there's no I shouldn't say there's no.

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<v Speaker 8>But there's a lack of understanding of boarding schools and

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<v Speaker 8>what had happened and how we had a whole lost

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<v Speaker 8>generation of elders who were hurting very very very bad.

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<v Speaker 1>Candy's referencing how the US government used to take Indigenous

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<v Speaker 1>children from their families and send them to far away

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<v Speaker 1>schools to strip them of their culture. Overall, this community

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<v Speaker 1>was fertile ground for the pipeline company's divisive strategies.

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<v Speaker 8>What this industry sought to do was divide and conquer

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<v Speaker 8>even us as tribes, to pit us against each other

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<v Speaker 8>as nations, and to pit definitely white people against Native people,

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<v Speaker 8>because when they do that, they control the narrative. When

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<v Speaker 8>they control the narrative, they win.

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<v Speaker 1>Despite all that, Candy is holding onto hope that maybe

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<v Speaker 1>the jury saw what she saw, that the evidence didn't

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<v Speaker 1>support energy transfers, claims, I'm.

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<v Speaker 8>Trying not to be pessimistic about things. I'm really trying

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<v Speaker 8>really hard. I want to be there for one of

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<v Speaker 8>those times in history where the correct, accurate, and right

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<v Speaker 8>decision was made and there was a wind for humanity.

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<v Speaker 1>On Wednesday, March nineteenth, just two days after closing statements,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a rumor that the jury might be about to

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<v Speaker 1>deliver a verdict. The Green Piece people say can hang

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<v Speaker 1>out at their workspace, a storefront a couple blocks from

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<v Speaker 1>the courthouse so that I'll know right when the verdict

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<v Speaker 1>comes in. They send me into an empty echoing room

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<v Speaker 1>that they're not using, so that they can't listen in

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<v Speaker 1>on their legal strategy. From my solo folding table and chair,

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<v Speaker 1>I can see into the other part of the office

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<v Speaker 1>through a window. Occasionally someone comes and visits me. Sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>I keep every time I see someone like walking quickly,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, what's going on right exactly? Candy pops in.

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<v Speaker 1>She starts theorizing that maybe the jurors are in there

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<v Speaker 1>fighting with each other. Maybe there's one person who's holding

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<v Speaker 1>out hung jury, she says, putting it out there. Both

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<v Speaker 1>of our heads flip to our right. Through the window,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a rush of people moving in the other room.

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<v Speaker 1>Candy dashes out. It's time. The courthouse is right there,

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<v Speaker 1>I think. Inside the courtroom, there's a swish of clothing

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<v Speaker 1>as everyone rises for Judge Gian. The court has received

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<v Speaker 1>word that the jury has reached a verdict, he says.

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<v Speaker 1>The jurors file in. One woman has a spark of

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<v Speaker 1>excitement in her eyes. Another looks kind of miserable. The

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<v Speaker 1>court clerk stands up to read their decision. Did defendants

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<v Speaker 1>trespass on energy transfers land Green Pieace Fund, no, Greenpeace International,

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<v Speaker 1>no Green Pieace Ink. Yes? How much do you award

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<v Speaker 1>to energy transfer in compensatory damages for trespace to land.

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<v Speaker 1>Over the next ten or so minutes, there's a blur

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<v Speaker 1>of numbers, and all of them have million at the end.

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<v Speaker 1>Each is a blow to Greenpeace. Someone in the room

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<v Speaker 1>is quietly crying when it's over. Not even the lawyers

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<v Speaker 1>have done the math to determine the exact total. But

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<v Speaker 1>what's clear is that Greenpeace has lost badly. Outside the courtroom,

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<v Speaker 1>Energy Transfers lawyer Trey Cox poses with a huddle of

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<v Speaker 1>lawyers from his firm, Gibson, Dunn and Crutcher. He has

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<v Speaker 1>an American flagpin to the lapel of his suit. His

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<v Speaker 1>colleagues look satisfied in their sunglasses as Trey delivers his

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<v Speaker 1>victory speech.

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<v Speaker 7>Today, the jury has delivered a resounding verdict declaring green

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<v Speaker 7>Piece's actions wrongful, unlawful, and unacceptable by societal standards. Green

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<v Speaker 7>Peace maliciously misrepresented events within this unity in an unrelenting

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<v Speaker 7>attempt to stop, by any means possible, the construction of

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<v Speaker 7>a pipeline that had already obtained all of the necessary

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<v Speaker 7>legal approvals. These are the facts, not the fake news

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<v Speaker 7>of the Greenpeace propaganda machine. This is a resounding win

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<v Speaker 7>for the people of Bismarck, the people of Manden and

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<v Speaker 7>Morton County, as well as law enforcement officers who across

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<v Speaker 7>this state diligently worked and risked their lives to maintain

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<v Speaker 7>order in increasing chaos. This verdict serves as a powerful

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<v Speaker 7>affirmation of the First Amendment. Peaceful protest is an inherent

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<v Speaker 7>American right. However, violent and destructive protest is unlawful and unacceptable.

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<v Speaker 7>This verdict clearly conveys.

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<v Speaker 1>That the jury found Greenpeace Inc. Was liable for all

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<v Speaker 1>of energy transfers on the ground damage claims, Green Pieace Ink,

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<v Speaker 1>and Greenpeace International were guilty of conspiracy, and they said

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<v Speaker 1>all three green Peace organizations committed tortious interference as well

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<v Speaker 1>as defamation when they made their statements on police violence,

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<v Speaker 1>tribal territory, and desecration of sacred sites. But we still

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<v Speaker 1>don't know the dollar total of the damages, And another

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<v Speaker 1>reporter asks.

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<v Speaker 9>Thank you, mister Cox, you have what's total number?

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<v Speaker 8>It's close to seven hundred million dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of can't believe my ears. Wait did he say,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I recorded it? Did he say sex seven

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<v Speaker 1>hundred million?

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<v Speaker 8>Okay, yeah, over twice the amount of the actual lawsuit.

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<v Speaker 1>That's Candy mossit white again. Can you share your reaction

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<v Speaker 1>to all of this.

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<v Speaker 8>It's absolutely bullshit one hundred percent. None of these people

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<v Speaker 8>that are leaving are from here for one thing.

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<v Speaker 10>They're all going back to Texas, Louisiana.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm from here.

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<v Speaker 10>Nobody asked us times what we wanted to do.

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<v Speaker 1>This is absolutely bullshit.

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<v Speaker 11>This verdict was absolutely biased one hundred percent. And yes,

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<v Speaker 11>I'm emotional because my kids go to school here, because

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<v Speaker 11>I'm from here and I have to deal with the

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<v Speaker 11>after effects.

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<v Speaker 4>I know some of those people.

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<v Speaker 11>I've seen them around bismark Mannon before. That is our

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<v Speaker 11>historic lands that were destroyed, and this company got money

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<v Speaker 11>for defamation for Greenpeace or for other peoples allegedly saying

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<v Speaker 11>that they destroyed sacred sites.

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<v Speaker 4>They did. I was there.

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<v Speaker 11>I just don't understand how.

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<v Speaker 9>They can get away with it, other than North Dakota's

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<v Speaker 9>a huge fossil fuel state. It's just really really upsetting

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<v Speaker 9>to me that these people get to leave and go

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<v Speaker 9>back to their respective states and not have to deal

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<v Speaker 9>with everything we have to continue to deal with as.

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<v Speaker 11>A result of these kinds of industries like energy transfer.

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<v Speaker 9>They stood here in front of the press and said

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<v Speaker 9>they had all the permits necessary and they didn't.

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<v Speaker 11>They didn't have the easement to go under LAKEWA.

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<v Speaker 1>That had nothing to do with green Peace, nothing.

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<v Speaker 10>And now they're getting thrown into the bus for something

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<v Speaker 10>they didn't even do. And they're treating us a Native

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<v Speaker 10>people like we're not competent enough to organize and strategize

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<v Speaker 10>something to protect our airlines and water. It's sick.

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<v Speaker 1>Green Peace takes its turn to speak to the press.

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<v Speaker 1>They look like they're at a funeral. Deepa Pedmanaba, green

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<v Speaker 1>Peace's senior legal advisor, addresses the crowd.

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<v Speaker 12>We should all be concerned about the attacks on our

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<v Speaker 12>First Amendment and lawsuits like this that really threaten our

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<v Speaker 12>rights to peaceful protest and free speech. The work of

0:25:41.440 --> 0:25:44.320
<v Speaker 12>green Peace is never going to stop. That's the really

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<v Speaker 12>important message today. And we're just walking out and we're

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<v Speaker 12>going to get together and figure out what our next

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<v Speaker 12>steps are.

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<v Speaker 1>No one lingers long. We all get into our cars

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<v Speaker 1>and drive away. After the trial wrapped up, I headed

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<v Speaker 1>back home to New York, and in the weeks after,

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<v Speaker 1>I kept thinking back to when I first started covering

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<v Speaker 1>the Standing Rock movement back in twenty sixteen, just as

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<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump was elected to his first term, Standing Rock

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<v Speaker 1>provided the opening scenes for a new era of repression

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<v Speaker 1>against protest. In the years that followed, we saw anti

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<v Speaker 1>protest laws spread across the US and around the world,

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<v Speaker 1>especially targeting environmental movements. The laws were developed and spread

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<v Speaker 1>by industry, initially in response to Standing Rock. At the

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<v Speaker 1>same time, after uprisings like the George Floyd movement popped off,

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<v Speaker 1>a kind of storytelling took cold that started to erase

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<v Speaker 1>what we'd been taught in school, that protests are a

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<v Speaker 1>noble tool of democracy that afforced some of the most

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<v Speaker 1>important changes in US history. A new story replaced that one,

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<v Speaker 1>and it said that protest is bad and maybe changes

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<v Speaker 1>bad two. Now, the energy transfer versus Greenpeace verdict is

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<v Speaker 1>landing at the beginning of a shitty sequel. In Trump's

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<v Speaker 1>second term, the same strategies used against the Standing Rock

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<v Speaker 1>movement are being put into practice at a much bigger scale.

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<v Speaker 1>We're seeing the National Guard brought in against anti deportation protesters,

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<v Speaker 1>this time called by the President himself. The head of

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<v Speaker 1>the Department of Homeland Security has said the IRS is

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<v Speaker 1>looking into protest funding and Republican members of Congress have

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<v Speaker 1>launched an investigation. I'd wager that if Standing Rock had

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<v Speaker 1>happened today, the FBI, rather than Tiger Swan, would have

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<v Speaker 1>been investigating the movement's funding. With Trump back in office,

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<v Speaker 1>we've also entered a whole new era of bad deal making.

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<v Speaker 1>Media outlets, universities, and law firms are being presented with

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<v Speaker 1>deals from the Trump administration that demand they either reel

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<v Speaker 1>back challenges to the president and abandon the most vulnerable people,

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<v Speaker 1>among them immigrants or trans people or Palestinians, or face

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<v Speaker 1>the possibility that their institution will be drained of resources

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<v Speaker 1>and destroyed. This round, it's not a law firm or

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<v Speaker 1>a CEO working for a private company that's making the offers.

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<v Speaker 1>It's government attorneys working for the president, although to be clear,

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<v Speaker 1>many of them come from the private sector. Former lawyers

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<v Speaker 1>for both Gibson Dunn and Energy Transfer have been appointed

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<v Speaker 1>to high level positions in the Trump administration. Here's deepa

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<v Speaker 1>Greenpeace Incs Senior legal advisor.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, the verdicts came at a time when we

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<v Speaker 5>have just been seeing institutions crumbling, where rather than fighting

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<v Speaker 5>head on people, individuals, law firms, universities, they're all crumbling.

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<v Speaker 1>Greenpeace has become one of the institutions that is fighting

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<v Speaker 1>back and is finding out how severe the blowback can be.

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<v Speaker 1>By the end of July, Greenpeace have offered us stuff

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<v Speaker 1>voluntary buyouts. The organizations lost twenty percent of their employees.

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<v Speaker 1>Was it worth it to not accept the deal given

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<v Speaker 1>how huge the verdict is?

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<v Speaker 5>Listen, there was no choice.

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<v Speaker 4>Right.

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<v Speaker 5>Is our existence our ultimate mission just the existence of

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<v Speaker 5>an entity? Or is there something in our mission that's

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<v Speaker 5>bigger than that?

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<v Speaker 1>I asked the Standing Rocks to tribe's current chair, Janet

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<v Speaker 1>al Kayer, what she thought of the verdict. Will this

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<v Speaker 1>verdict impact Standing Rock and if so, how.

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<v Speaker 13>I'm thinking definitely it will impact because it's there for

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<v Speaker 13>the record.

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<v Speaker 4>Right.

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<v Speaker 13>What I'm hopeful about is that Greenpeace it doesn't end there,

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<v Speaker 13>that they're going to move this beyond and fight it.

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<v Speaker 1>The Standing Rock Sioux Tribe knows way more than any

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<v Speaker 1>environmental organization about standing up to bad deals. It's woven

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<v Speaker 1>into their entire history. That lawsuit they filed against the

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<v Speaker 1>Army Corps was dismissed a few weeks after the green

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<v Speaker 1>Peace verdict, and they've already filed an appeal to Janet.

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<v Speaker 1>Regardless of the odds, the fight for the Ochetti Chakoine

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<v Speaker 1>people's water is too important to give up.

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<v Speaker 13>Even if we do not win in court. What history

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<v Speaker 13>will say about us is more important. Are what our

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<v Speaker 13>children will say is more important that we always stood

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<v Speaker 13>up for them, because if we just give up, then

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<v Speaker 13>of course they win. So I'm hoping down the road

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<v Speaker 13>that I can I can be at peace knowing that

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<v Speaker 13>I tried. I think I couldn't. I couldn't live with

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<v Speaker 13>myself if I didn't try. The Green Peace organizations are

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<v Speaker 13>getting ready to appeal the verdict in the North Dakota

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<v Speaker 13>Supreme Court, and I've heard mixed predictions from legal experts

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<v Speaker 13>I've talked to. Meanwhile, Greenpeace International is leaning on the

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<v Speaker 13>European Union's anti slap law to strike back at Energy

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<v Speaker 13>Transfer in a court in the Netherlands. They're hoping to

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<v Speaker 13>recover the money they spent dealing with the lawsuit, but

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<v Speaker 13>the US has no federal anti slap law, neither energy

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<v Speaker 13>Transfer nor Gibson Dunn Krutcher answered a detailed list of questions. However,

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<v Speaker 13>they repeatedly shared a statement, we are very pleased that

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<v Speaker 13>Greenpeace has been held accountable for its actions against energy Transfer,

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<v Speaker 13>and in the months since the trial, lawyer Trey Cox

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<v Speaker 13>has said that other companies are already expressing interest in

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<v Speaker 13>repeating what Energy transferred it to green Peace.

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<v Speaker 1>He told the Daily Caller, I'm getting calls from the

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<v Speaker 1>oil and gas industry. I'm getting calls from any number

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<v Speaker 1>of other industries that have been similarly affected. Still, where

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<v Speaker 1>it comes to the fight for the Ochechi Chakoyne's water,

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<v Speaker 1>there's not a clear winner. Will the company Kelsey Warren

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<v Speaker 1>co founded may have gotten its day of reckoning in court,

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<v Speaker 1>and they may have even imprinted a new story of

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<v Speaker 1>Standing Rock in the minds of many Americans. There's some

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<v Speaker 1>things that can't be erased. Standing Rock activated a whole

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<v Speaker 1>generation of Indigenous organizers who went home and continued to

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<v Speaker 1>fight to protect their own communities. I talked to Cody,

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<v Speaker 1>who was originally named in the lawsuit one last time.

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<v Speaker 4>Was it worth it?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>It was.

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<v Speaker 14>It was because we needed it, not just as Indigenous people,

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<v Speaker 14>but just people as a whole. Grandfather spoke of it best,

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<v Speaker 14>you know when he said everything was for the people.

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<v Speaker 1>Remember that.

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<v Speaker 14>I guess we endured a lot for the people. We

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<v Speaker 14>did a lot for the people, not just indigenous people,

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<v Speaker 14>but everybody you know, so it was it was worth it.

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<v Speaker 4>No chew.

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<v Speaker 1>No Chew.

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<v Speaker 2>No chill.

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<v Speaker 3>No chew.

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<v Speaker 1>Chew, no chill

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<v Speaker 5>Y