WEBVTT - Tech News: Military Coups and Net Neutrality

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to tech Stuff, a production from I Heart Radio.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey there, and welcome to tech Stuff. I'm your host,

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<v Speaker 1>Jonathan Strickland. I'm an executive producer with I Heart Radio

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<v Speaker 1>and I love all things tech. And today we have

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<v Speaker 1>the news for Thursday, February twenty one, and we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>start off with more about solar Winds. We've covered the

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<v Speaker 1>Solar Winds hack on tech Stuff for a while now.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the hack that primarily targeted the Solar Winds

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<v Speaker 1>software product Ryan, which is a network management software that's

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<v Speaker 1>used by thousands of companies, including many of the Fortune

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<v Speaker 1>five hundred, as well as government agencies like the Department

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<v Speaker 1>of Homeland Security. In the US, the United States Congress

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<v Speaker 1>is holding sessions focusing on the hack and its scope

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<v Speaker 1>and any next steps that we should be taking. To

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<v Speaker 1>that end, Microsoft and a security company called fire I

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<v Speaker 1>are calling upon Congress to draft legislation that would create

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<v Speaker 1>a mandatory process for companies to follow after the discovery

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<v Speaker 1>of a data breach. The idea here is that the

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<v Speaker 1>longer a company stays quiet about a breach, the more

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<v Speaker 1>harm that can be done by the attackers, particularly if

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<v Speaker 1>it turns out that other companies have also been targeted

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<v Speaker 1>by that same group and have yet to detect an intrusion. Moreover,

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<v Speaker 1>the company has urged that there should be a way

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<v Speaker 1>for victims to come forward with these issues, even those

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<v Speaker 1>that could potentially involve national security concerns, without the threat

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<v Speaker 1>of having legal action leveled against those companies. So, in

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<v Speaker 1>other words, if a defense contractor detects a breach, it

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<v Speaker 1>should be able to report it without worrying about being

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<v Speaker 1>sued to eternity and back by the government, just as

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<v Speaker 1>an example. As it stands at the moment, in the

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<v Speaker 1>United States, the sort of thing is handled mostly on

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<v Speaker 1>a state by state basis, with most states having their

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<v Speaker 1>own rules in place to protect companies in the event

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<v Speaker 1>that they need to report a security breach, but there

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<v Speaker 1>is no existing federal legislation on the matter. On the whole,

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<v Speaker 1>I think this is a pretty good idea and encourages

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<v Speaker 1>companies and agencies to share information with one another, which

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<v Speaker 1>could drastically improve the response time to problems like security breaches,

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<v Speaker 1>that in turn could reduce the potential impact of those breaches. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>these are still very early talks, and it's also important

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<v Speaker 1>to remember that any legislation has to be crafted responsibly,

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<v Speaker 1>or else it runs the risk of making a problem

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<v Speaker 1>worse or at the very least more complicated. Hannah Beach

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<v Speaker 1>and Paul Mosur wrote a piece for The New York

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<v Speaker 1>Times titled A Digital Firewall in Myanmar Built with guns

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<v Speaker 1>and wire cutters. If you have access to The New

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<v Speaker 1>York Times, I recommend reading this piece. The reporters tell

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<v Speaker 1>the story of how the military coup in Myanmar, which

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<v Speaker 1>has overthrown a democratically elected administration forcibly, confronted telecoms and

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<v Speaker 1>their employees in an effort to shut down communication systems

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<v Speaker 1>within Myanmar, limiting the citizens access to information and their

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<v Speaker 1>ability to organize. It's a primitive but effective way to

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<v Speaker 1>limit the resource of the Internet, and the military in

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<v Speaker 1>Myanmar appear to be determined to follow in the footsteps

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<v Speaker 1>of China, which of course is famous for its own

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<v Speaker 1>digital barriers to the outside Internet. Often we call it

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<v Speaker 1>the Great Firewall of China. The situation in Myanmar is distressing,

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<v Speaker 1>to say the least, and people like Tom Andrews of

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<v Speaker 1>the United Nations have argued that there has to be

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<v Speaker 1>an unequivocal global response to this coup, and countries like

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<v Speaker 1>the UK, the United States, and Canada have already imposed

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<v Speaker 1>sanctions on the coup leaders. Meanwhile, Myanmar citizens continue to

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<v Speaker 1>organize protests, amassing in the streets and holding a general

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<v Speaker 1>strike with a truly enormous display on February twenty two.

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<v Speaker 1>This story is important all on its own, but it

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<v Speaker 1>also stands as a reminder of how crucial the Internet is.

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<v Speaker 1>If it's something that an oppressive regime has to shut

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<v Speaker 1>down in order to secure control, then you know it's important.

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<v Speaker 1>Something else that's important is understanding how influential for companies

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<v Speaker 1>are when it comes to the World Wide Web. That's

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<v Speaker 1>what the Big Tech Detective browser extension aims to do.

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<v Speaker 1>The extension comes from the Economic Security Project, and it

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<v Speaker 1>does something rather peculiar. Most browser extensions aim to make

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<v Speaker 1>a browser more useful, but the Big Tech Detective kind

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<v Speaker 1>of does the opposite. So what it does is block

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<v Speaker 1>access to any web page that connects to any IP

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<v Speaker 1>address that belongs to Microsoft, Amazon, Facebook or Google. Now

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<v Speaker 1>that includes some of more sneaky tricksy stuff, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like trackers, which are the sort of things that monitor

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<v Speaker 1>your browsing behavior and report back to another entity, usually

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<v Speaker 1>so that these companies can market the most relevant ads

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<v Speaker 1>to you. That's why if you ever spend a few

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<v Speaker 1>minutes looking at I don't know websites about pet care,

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<v Speaker 1>you'll start to see more ads for pet care products

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<v Speaker 1>and services pop up on Facebook. But a web page

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<v Speaker 1>my contact one of these big four companies for less

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<v Speaker 1>intrusive reasons, such as to pull fonts from a Google database. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't matter if the web page you're trying to

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<v Speaker 1>look at is tracking you, or if it's just hosted

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<v Speaker 1>on Amazon Web Services or whatever. If this extension sees

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<v Speaker 1>that that web page is at all connected to Amazon, Google, Facebook,

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<v Speaker 1>or Microsoft, it blocks you from seeing that web page.

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<v Speaker 1>As Mitchell Clark of The Verge points out, this makes

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<v Speaker 1>the web parractically useless, and that's kind of the point.

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<v Speaker 1>It's an exercise to show people exactly how influential these

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<v Speaker 1>four companies are when it comes to the web. Practically

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<v Speaker 1>every page on the Web has some sort of connection

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<v Speaker 1>to these four companies. Now it might be a light

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<v Speaker 1>touch in some cases, or it might be a tight integration,

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<v Speaker 1>but it really shows that those four companies wield significant

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<v Speaker 1>influence on the web. And maybe that's not always a

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<v Speaker 1>good thing. Oh and as you might suspect, to get

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<v Speaker 1>the extension for a browser like Google Chrome, you have

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<v Speaker 1>to sideloaded, meaning you're not going to find it on

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<v Speaker 1>the actual Google Extensions website. In previous episodes of tech Stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>we've looked at how Facebook, Twitter, and YouTube have removed

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<v Speaker 1>posts and band users for spreading misinformation. Well now we

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<v Speaker 1>can add TikTok to that list, as a report this

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<v Speaker 1>week from the company shows that TikTok removed more than

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<v Speaker 1>three hundred forty thousand videos from its platform for breaking

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<v Speaker 1>the rules regarding election misinformation, disinformation, and manipulation. The transparency

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<v Speaker 1>report covers TikTok's activities over the second half of twenty twenty,

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<v Speaker 1>so in addition to those videos that were taken down,

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<v Speaker 1>the company also removed more than four hundred forty thousand

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<v Speaker 1>videos from its recommendation engine. That means that you wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>see that pop up as a potential hey, why don't

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<v Speaker 1>you watch this video next kind of thing again. The

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<v Speaker 1>purpose for the removal was that the videos had been

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<v Speaker 1>flagged as containing misinformation, presumably not bad enough that TikTok

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<v Speaker 1>would need to remove the video entirely, I guess, but

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<v Speaker 1>it was no longer in recommendations, which really decreases their discovery.

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<v Speaker 1>And TikTok also eradicated one point seven five million accounts,

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<v Speaker 1>and TikTok says that it appears that they only existed

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<v Speaker 1>for the purposes of elevating specific misinformation messaging. Weather We'll

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<v Speaker 1>continue to see platforms like TikTok and it's older social

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<v Speaker 1>networking siblings stay on top of restricting the speed and

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<v Speaker 1>spread of misinformation that remains to be seen. Twitter has

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<v Speaker 1>now added a warning to alert users to tweets that

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<v Speaker 1>link out two sites that host stuff that was obtained illegally,

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<v Speaker 1>like pirated content. The message reads, quote these materials may

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<v Speaker 1>have been obtained through hacking end quote. So it's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like saying, okay, but for reals, these stereo systems

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<v Speaker 1>didn't actually fall off the back of a truck like

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<v Speaker 1>that guy keeps saying they done dang stolem. In related news,

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<v Speaker 1>people discovered that Twitter's methodology for identifying a bad link

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<v Speaker 1>to hacked material is itself a bit shoddy. Tom Warren

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<v Speaker 1>posted a link on Twitter to The Virgin's website. And

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<v Speaker 1>The Verge is a respectable tech news side. I use

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<v Speaker 1>them all the time. In fact I cite them in

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<v Speaker 1>these episodes, and the warning showed up on that post.

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<v Speaker 1>But as Warren explained, quote so there's a way to

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<v Speaker 1>trick Twitter into displaying its hacked materials warning. This will

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<v Speaker 1>be today's Twitter meme until they fix it. End quote.

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<v Speaker 1>The trick, by the way, was to type out a

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<v Speaker 1>legitimate u r L first, like www dot the Verge

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<v Speaker 1>dot com, then a slash, then a hashtag followed by

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<v Speaker 1>a U r L that would trip the warning message.

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<v Speaker 1>So a U r L to a an actual site

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<v Speaker 1>that had pirated material on it. The good u r

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<v Speaker 1>L is what would show up in the tweet as

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<v Speaker 1>the link, but Twitter would identify the bad u r

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<v Speaker 1>L and use that to generate the warning message. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's not the end of the world, but it's definitely

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<v Speaker 1>enough fodder for people to have a bit of fun

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<v Speaker 1>posting links to legitimate sources and sites but have them

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<v Speaker 1>appear to be clearing houses for illegal spoils on the Internet.

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<v Speaker 1>Sony announced that the company is working on virtual reality

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<v Speaker 1>hardware for the PS five console, which can still be

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<v Speaker 1>pretty hard to get your hands on these days. The

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<v Speaker 1>PS four had proved to be a good platform for

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<v Speaker 1>VR Unlike other or VR products, it didn't require users

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<v Speaker 1>to invest a couple of grand in a gaming rig

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<v Speaker 1>just to run the software and power the hardware. And

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<v Speaker 1>this announcement seems to indicate that virtual reality is really

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<v Speaker 1>establishing its place in gaming and home entertainment. Now. It's

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<v Speaker 1>certainly not as widespread as we were led to believe

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<v Speaker 1>it would be back in the nineteen nineties when virtual

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<v Speaker 1>reality was first really firing in the imaginations of the

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<v Speaker 1>general public. But I still take this as an encouraging

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<v Speaker 1>move because I like the idea of VR. I want

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<v Speaker 1>to see it continue to grow. I want to see

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<v Speaker 1>new experiences and games crafted for the virtual reality ecosystem,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think having something that connects directly to a

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<v Speaker 1>console where you don't need to do any upgrades or

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<v Speaker 1>anything like that in order to make it work just

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<v Speaker 1>makes a lot of sense. In sadder news, the US

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<v Speaker 1>electronics chain Fries is going out of business. This in

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<v Speaker 1>itself isn't a huge surprise. The company was already teetering

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<v Speaker 1>before the pandemic in twent Like a lot of brick

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<v Speaker 1>and mortar retail stores, Fries saw a lot of its

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<v Speaker 1>business siphoned away by that behemous Amazon. But back in

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<v Speaker 1>the day, Fries was one of those places where computer

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<v Speaker 1>geeks could go in order to buy various components. You

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<v Speaker 1>could stroll the aisles and select all the different pieces

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<v Speaker 1>you needed to build a PC, and you could build

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<v Speaker 1>it yourself for less than it would cost to buy

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<v Speaker 1>a pre assembled one to your own specifications. But the

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<v Speaker 1>process did require a bit of research if you wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to avoid making embarrassing mistakes like I don't know, picking

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<v Speaker 1>a motherboard and a CPU that aren't compatible with each other.

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<v Speaker 1>But who would do that? Not this guy, let me

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<v Speaker 1>tell you. Anyway, it looks like it's the end of

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<v Speaker 1>Fries and that is a real shame. Although from what

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<v Speaker 1>I understand, in more recent years, the experience of shopping

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<v Speaker 1>Fries has taken a bit of a dip. And even

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<v Speaker 1>in its heyday when I used to go to Fries,

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<v Speaker 1>it was kind of a scavenger hunt to find all

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<v Speaker 1>the stuff you needed. It wasn't necessarily laid out in

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<v Speaker 1>a way that was user friendly. And finally, in California,

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<v Speaker 1>a federal judge has denied the request made by telecom

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<v Speaker 1>and cable companies to block the state from enforcing a

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<v Speaker 1>net neutrality law. The law and makes it illegal for

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<v Speaker 1>telecom companies to favor their own services over those provided

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<v Speaker 1>by another party. So, in other words, a company like

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<v Speaker 1>Comcast would not be allowed to throttle a service like

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<v Speaker 1>Netflix in an effort to persuade customers to use Comcasts

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<v Speaker 1>owned video on demand services instead. A few years ago,

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<v Speaker 1>this was also the stance of the f c C

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<v Speaker 1>in the United States, the federal level administration that oversees

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<v Speaker 1>these kinds of matters, but those restrictions were phased out

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<v Speaker 1>during the Trump administration. In the wake of that event,

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<v Speaker 1>California passed its own state law regarding net neutrality. A

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<v Speaker 1>collection of telecommunications and cable companies are suing the state

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<v Speaker 1>over the matter, but the general consensus seems to be

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<v Speaker 1>that that effort is destined to fail, and with the

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<v Speaker 1>Biden administration now overseeing federal operations, the FCC as a

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<v Speaker 1>whole might reinstitute some of the restrictions that the previous

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<v Speaker 1>administration had ended. It might be a good time for

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<v Speaker 1>net neutrality and a slightly tougher time for all those gigantic,

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<v Speaker 1>almost monopolistic telecommunications companies that are dominating all realms of

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<v Speaker 1>communications and media. I'm not crying over that, honestly. And

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<v Speaker 1>that wraps up the news stories for this Thursday, February one.

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