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Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, a Tuesday night WOJE bomb right after

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Speaker 1: we played Pickup Hoops. Give me a little Southern lawyer.

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Speaker 2: We got ourselves a trade.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we do. What's up everybody. It is eleven o'clock,

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Speaker 1: just after eleven o'clock Eastern time on Tuesday night. Just

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Speaker 1: finished playing Pickup Hoops with Tray Kirby and Woe says.

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Speaker 1: We got a doozy for you. Shout out to everyone

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Speaker 1: joining us live right now and YouTube, hit the like button,

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Speaker 1: subscribe podcast listeners, five star rating and review. Let's jump

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Speaker 1: right into it because we actually have two trades. But

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Speaker 1: let's start with the key player going to the New

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Speaker 1: York Knicks. Friendship wins tonight. Yeah, the Brooklyn Nets are

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Speaker 1: trading forward McHale Bridges to the Knicks for a monster

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Speaker 1: trade package. The Knicks will send Boyon Bogdanovic four unprotected

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Speaker 1: first round picks in twenty twenty five, twenty twenty seven,

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty nine, and two thousand and thirty one. Sounds

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Speaker 1: like a fake year. Also a twenty twenty five excuse me,

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Speaker 1: protected first rounder by way of the Bucks, a twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty eight unprotected pickswap, and a twenty twenty five second

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Speaker 1: rounder to the Nets. The Knicks will also acquire twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty six second round pick from the Nets to complete

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Speaker 1: the deal. That's a lot of picks. I just threw

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Speaker 1: out you, Trey Kirby, and we'll get in to the

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Speaker 1: Rockets and Nets doing some swaps as well. But let's

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Speaker 1: just start with Mikale Bridges teaming up with his Villanova boys.

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Speaker 1: They got four of them. Now, uh, your immediate reaction

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Speaker 2: Here, I got a tip my cap to Leon Rose

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Speaker 2: on his dominic Toretto right now. I don't got friends,

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Speaker 2: I got family. The Knicks are the only organization in

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Speaker 2: the entire NBA that has figured out how to tamper.

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Speaker 2: They used Rick Brunson to get his son, Jalen Brunson.

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Speaker 2: Then they used Jalen Brunson, Dante DiVincenzo, and Josh Hart

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Speaker 2: to get Mikale Bridges, all just by pure good vibes,

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Speaker 2: by liking each other, by talking to each other saying, hey,

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Speaker 2: you would love it over here. It's all legal. I

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Speaker 2: can't believe it. What a crazy night. Also, I got

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Speaker 2: to tip my cap to the NBA changing this, you

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Speaker 2: can start negotiating with your own free agents as soon

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Speaker 2: as the season is over. It's turned this week crazy already.

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Speaker 2: So like you're saying, we're playing pick up, the trade

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Speaker 2: goes down. Hadn't even had a chance to shower yet, skeets.

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Speaker 2: But man, it's exciting stuff. Getting Mikale Bridges I think

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Speaker 2: is awesome for the Knicks. Literally, they're getting a guy

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Speaker 2: who played eighty three regular season games, a ton of minutes,

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Speaker 2: hasn't missed a game since high school. You thought maybe

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Speaker 2: Jalen Brunson was the perfect Tom Thibodeau player. You thought

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Speaker 2: maybe Josh Hart was the perfect Tom Thibodeaux player. You

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Speaker 2: thought Ogna no Obi was. Maybe it's Michale Bridges. They

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Speaker 2: keep finding different facets of Tom Thibodeau's personality and they're

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Speaker 2: building that team this way. I've got a lot of

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Speaker 2: questions about what's going to be going on with the

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Speaker 1: Yeah, again, I won't go through every year of these picks,

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Speaker 1: but it's five, you know, first round picks, really four

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Speaker 1: protected from the Bucks. So this is all huge draft

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Speaker 1: capital for the Nets to get in return here, and

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Speaker 1: we've got some other reporting sn wise Ian Begley, he

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Speaker 1: said this deal came together really quickly after Bridges informed

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Speaker 1: Jumping on a podcast with them. I want to play

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Speaker 2: I don't think the Bridges necessarily takes the ball out

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Speaker 1: I think Fred Katz of the Athletics said, I don't

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Speaker 1: But the Knicks have spoken to several teams about I

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's no way that both Robinston and Hartenstein are

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Speaker 2: Not to mention, he misses time quite regularly, twenty games

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Speaker 2: the regular season. We haven't seen him quite hit those

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's true, but I think the league teams are

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Speaker 1: you think like they got bridges here? But hypothetically you're saying,

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Speaker 2: So you're literally asking me how much this friendship matter

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Speaker 1: No, we did it.

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Speaker 2: We did it.

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Speaker 1: We lost games against each other, were broken up, but yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean, I personally think that this deal should have

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Speaker 2: he said, Ingram Ingram, I would definitely want McHale Bridges

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Speaker 2: They're all going to figure out how to play together

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Speaker 2: and if not, that's gonna be really disappointing for all

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Speaker 1: Let's get to the secondary deal sort of attached to

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Speaker 1: this one. That's the way it's sort of being presented,

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Speaker 1: Now, what do you think of the what was slipping

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Speaker 1: I forget who I was trying to trade the other day.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's Bobby Mark season right now. This guy call

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Speaker 2: had some pretty good success playing as a mash your

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Speaker 2: think that's interesting and it'll be interested seeing to see

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Speaker 2: how it plays out and what they actually decide to

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Speaker 2: do with their front court. It is expensive, they better

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Speaker 2: hope that the vibes remain immaculate. But this is a

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Speaker 2: really deep team, so I think the Knicks did a

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Speaker 2: pretty good job. It is this hefty price to pay.

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Speaker 2: I'll give them like a probably like a seven out

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Speaker 2: of ten on this trade the Nets. They were in

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Speaker 2: a depressing situation. I think heading into the summer, Ben

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Speaker 2: Simmons is their highest paid player. They had no picks.

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Speaker 2: Now you can see a little bit of light at

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Speaker 2: whatever the name of the tunnel is that connects Brooklyn

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Speaker 2: and Manhattan. There isn't there is a name for it,

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Speaker 2: and I'm sure the people actually know what it is.

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Speaker 2: But I think they made a smart move. Yeah, the

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Speaker 2: Lincoln Tunnel, because it's Lincoln one side to the other.

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Speaker 2: But there's at least a little bit of hope I

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Speaker 2: think for the Nets rather than being stuck hoping to

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Speaker 2: make the play. And I think they made a tough,

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Speaker 2: smart decision. And I think they'll probably be open for

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Speaker 2: business as well. I wonder if Cam Johnson is a

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Speaker 2: guy who could be attainable. I give them an eight

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Speaker 2: out of ten.

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Speaker 1: Okay, and let's not forget Ben Simmons with his shirt off,

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Speaker 1: you know, shooting jumpers.

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Speaker 2: He's looking good. He's looking good. He looks great. Yeah great,

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Speaker 2: I mean he sounds back here. Yeah, he's he's feeling confident.

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Speaker 2: And this is the year. So if that happens, if

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Speaker 2: Ben Simmons is unleashed, I will upgrade this to a

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Speaker 2: nine final. Take Houston Rockets. Hey, they're just hopping in

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Speaker 2: for fun. They you want to do over, fine, we'll

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Speaker 2: do it. I can't give them a great score right

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Speaker 2: now until I know exactly what they're gonna do. But

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Speaker 2: I think they become a very dangerous and a very

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Speaker 2: attractive team because Houston, low key is a humongous city,

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Speaker 2: a huge market. They do get free agents. They have

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Speaker 2: a history of in the past getting free agents dating

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Speaker 2: back to like Dwight Howard. People like going and playing

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Speaker 2: for the Rockets. So I think they've got a coach

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Speaker 2: that people that players around the league like in email Udoka.

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Speaker 2: They've got a little bit of an identity playing defense

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Speaker 2: last year, being a hard nosed veteran team. I don't

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Speaker 2: necessarily know which of their young guys they're gonna keep,

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Speaker 2: but there are pieces there that no matter what kind

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Speaker 2: of player you are, no matter what type of player

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Speaker 2: you are, you could say, wow, I could maybe win

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Speaker 2: with those guys. So I think that the Rockets, there's

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Speaker 2: been a lot of talk about taking their next phase

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Speaker 2: of their rebuild, Phase two I guess was last year.

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Speaker 2: Tim McMahon says, so this probably is phase three. They're

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Speaker 2: in a choire mode, and I think that that's going

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Speaker 2: to be the case for not only like this transaction cycle,

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Speaker 2: but it will be at the trade deadline and next

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Speaker 2: year they become a real player for all of the

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Speaker 2: big names that become available. So I think the Rockets.

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Speaker 2: I can only give him a five out of ten

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Speaker 2: right now because they only did some do over kind

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Speaker 2: of moves, but they have a potential to be the

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Speaker 2: long term ten out of ten winner.

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Speaker 1: I think I'm putting on my tinfoil hat here a

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Speaker 1: little bit, but I trust the source Andrew Schlecht, who

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Speaker 1: does Down to Dunk, who is obviously, you know, one

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Speaker 1: of the most plugged in OKAC thunder Beat reporters out

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Speaker 1: there and writers and all that podcasters. He keeps dropping

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Speaker 1: little hints, little nuggets about this idea of Kevin Durant

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Speaker 1: returning to the thunder and they and he doesn't chuck

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Speaker 1: this shit around, you know, willy nilly. You know, like

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Speaker 1: I think there's he knows something a little bit more

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Speaker 1: than the casual or what we may or may not know.

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Speaker 1: And you know, I wonder if the Rockets have sniffed

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Speaker 1: out a little bit and like this idea of like, okay, well,

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Speaker 1: well first off, he he's available. Oh well we would

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Speaker 1: like that. And you know, there could be a little uh,

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Speaker 1: could be a little race here for Katie if that's

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Speaker 1: something that's even actually in play here. I'm just saying,

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying I'll just end with that.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna have to go skates. We're gonna have to

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Speaker 2: go back through the archives and see how many Kevin

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Speaker 2: Durant sweepstakes we've had throughout these Are you kidding me?

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Speaker 2: We had one during the off season when he made

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Speaker 2: a trade request from the Nets, then he didn't. Then

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Speaker 2: we had it when he made a second trade request

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Speaker 2: and went to the Suns. Now he might be going

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Speaker 2: from the Suns to the Rockets or the Thunder. Obviously

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Speaker 2: we had the Oklahoma City to Golden State. That's a

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Speaker 2: lot of teams.

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Speaker 1: Bruh, Yeah, I mean Kevin Durant sweepstakes just behind the

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Speaker 1: Tim Hardaway sweepstakes for me. I don't know if you

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Speaker 1: saw the betting lots for that, but I got my

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Speaker 1: eye on Tim Hardaway Junior first land some coin on

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Speaker 1: that and then yes KD once again sweepstakes. But let's

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Speaker 1: call it there a little emergency podcasts shout out to

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Speaker 1: people joining us live on YouTube.

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Speaker 2: We'd love to see it.

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Speaker 1: Hit the like button subscribed if you haven't, leave your comments,

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Speaker 1: your thoughts, your grades like TK did there on the

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Speaker 1: Nick's getting mckail bridges on the nets getting a bunch

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Speaker 1: of picks and obviously in the Rockets getting in the

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Speaker 1: mix here, let's hear from you guys. Podcast listeners five

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Speaker 1: star rating and review. Oh, I will remind everyone tomorrow night. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: tomorrow night. It's still Tuesday right now, but on Wednesday

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Speaker 1: night we will be jumping on playback to watch.

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Speaker 2: The NBA Draft.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's happening less than twenty four hours from now,

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Speaker 1: so we'll be I don't know how long will last.

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Speaker 1: Definitely the lottery teams. Maybe sometimes we make it all

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Speaker 1: the way through the first round. We'll see how we're feeling.

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Speaker 1: But that's tomorrow night at eight pm Eastern. That link

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Speaker 1: is in the show notes, so you can just join

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Speaker 1: us for free there, use us as a little bit

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Speaker 1: of a second screen experience. You got the bulls picking ten,

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Speaker 1: you got my wraps picking a little later. So I'm

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Speaker 1: sure we'll be on live for our teams, probably infuriating us,

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Speaker 1: but who knows. We might ask some trades as well.

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Speaker 1: You know when you heard John feels like it when

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Speaker 1: you're talking to the guys, what's up, it feels like it.

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Speaker 1: We've had two trades since the end of the season,

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Speaker 1: and like notable players in the trades right this this

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Speaker 1: is different than normal because of the schedule, so that

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Speaker 1: will be very fun. But until tomorrow Night's playback and

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Speaker 1: then we'll be back on Thursday in the Nodubs podcast

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Speaker 1: feeding on YouTube to recap and do our winners and

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Speaker 1: losers of Night one at least of the draft. Can't

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Speaker 1: wait for that until that Clipper bros.

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Speaker 2: You heard it here first, have a great time, turn up,

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Speaker 2: love you guys awesome.

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Speaker 1: Do you have a final thought? Some parting words here

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Speaker 1: a quote for us TK thanks.

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Speaker 2: For joining us, and remember, friendship is rare, but it's real.

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Speaker 2: It's real. I thought it needed a little more you hey,

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Speaker 2: Friendship is rare but it's real.

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Speaker 1: Embrace the night people,