WEBVTT - Bengals Booth Podcast: The Golden Age

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, get everybody on dan Hord and thanks for downloading

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<v Speaker 1>The Bengals Booth podcast The Let the Golden Age begin. Addition,

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<v Speaker 1>as I go in depth with the Bengals new defensive coordinator,

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<v Speaker 1>It's the greatest thing since a pair of rock legends

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<v Speaker 1>coming to pay Core Stadium this year. In addition to

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<v Speaker 1>announcing the hiring of Al Golden on Thursday, the Bengals

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<v Speaker 1>also shared the news that Billy Joel and Rod Stewart

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<v Speaker 1>are coming to pay Corps Stadium on September twentieth. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a sportscaster, so I like stats. Billy and Rod have

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<v Speaker 1>won a combined total of seven Grammy Awards. They are

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<v Speaker 1>both in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, and

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<v Speaker 1>they have combined to sell more than two hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>seventy million records. Tickets will go on sale next week, Friday,

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<v Speaker 1>January thirty first, at ten am, and they will go fast.

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<v Speaker 1>I've got my fingers crossed and my teams will be

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<v Speaker 1>home that weekend. If so, I will definitely be at

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<v Speaker 1>the show. Now let's get to my guest. Al Golden

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<v Speaker 1>was the Bengals linebackers coach in twenty twenty and twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty one, leaving after the Bengals played in Super Bowl

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<v Speaker 1>fifty six to become the defensive coordinator at Notre Dame.

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<v Speaker 1>His three years in South Bend ended with a trip

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<v Speaker 1>to this week's National Championship Game with a defense that

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<v Speaker 1>finished number two in the country in fewest points allowed.

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<v Speaker 1>Now he's returning to Cincinnati with the task of building

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<v Speaker 1>a solid defense to go with one of the NFL's

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<v Speaker 1>best offenses. After three years said Notre Dame, Al Golden

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<v Speaker 1>is back here in Cincinnati. Is the Bengals defensive coordinator?

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<v Speaker 1>Does this feel like a homecoming? Absolutely?

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<v Speaker 2>This is really the only home my kids know, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>my son went to Saint X. My girls are at Summit,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, And this is the community that we didn't

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<v Speaker 2>want to move them out of when we did take

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<v Speaker 2>the new opportunity.

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<v Speaker 3>So I don't even have to relocate.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm the cheapest relocation in the history of coaching here

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<v Speaker 2>at Cincinnati. But it's a blessing to be home and

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<v Speaker 2>be surrounded by so many friends and family.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it certainly suggests how much you and your family

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<v Speaker 1>loved it here. Why What was it about Cincinnati?

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<v Speaker 2>The community, the relationships starting with this building, starting with Zach,

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<v Speaker 2>and obviously the culture that he's created, you know, the

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<v Speaker 2>Brown family and certainly the tentacles that you know that

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<v Speaker 2>reached out to my kids, friends, their parents, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>all of those things, the high school relationships, all those things.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's it's a blessing to be back.

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<v Speaker 1>What about the job itself. What appeals to you about

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<v Speaker 1>being the defensive coordinator of the Bengals?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, Number one, the organization.

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<v Speaker 2>I loved the organization when I was here, and the

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<v Speaker 2>family atmosphere of it, the leadership of Zach. I enjoyed

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<v Speaker 2>going to work every day and working with Zach and

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<v Speaker 2>working with Darren Simmons and some of the people that

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<v Speaker 2>I'm I'm seeing already today upstairs. Duke and I can

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<v Speaker 2>go on and on, but that you know, at the

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<v Speaker 2>end of the day, everything's brick, brick and mortar, but

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<v Speaker 2>it's the people that endure in your mind and the

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<v Speaker 2>relationships and and for me that was a big part

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<v Speaker 2>of it. And obviously to be be here now with

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<v Speaker 2>what's already here and what's already set up, and obviously

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<v Speaker 2>having somebody like Joe being the leader of the organization

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<v Speaker 2>and being your quarterback makes it makes it ultra attractive.

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<v Speaker 1>I've seen some of these words associated with you as

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<v Speaker 1>a football coach, flexible, energetic, collaborative. What are the core

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<v Speaker 1>principles of an al golden defense.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it all starts with the acronym best, right, So

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<v Speaker 2>number one ball disruption. Put a premium on that. Our

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<v Speaker 2>number one job is to support our quarterback. And people

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<v Speaker 2>are like, you know, what does that mean As a

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<v Speaker 2>defensive coordinator, We've got to get him the ball.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's our number one job.

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<v Speaker 2>Give him opportunities, the e and best his effort and

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<v Speaker 2>attitude and finish s is.

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<v Speaker 3>The situational masters.

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<v Speaker 2>Just being great in the red zone, being being awesome

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<v Speaker 2>on third down, understanding how to conduct a two minute drill,

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<v Speaker 2>and things of that nature.

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<v Speaker 3>And then t is tackling.

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<v Speaker 2>So those are the things that we really private ourselves on.

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<v Speaker 2>More than that, the overarching theme of our defense is empowerment.

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<v Speaker 2>So at the end of the day, whether it's Logan,

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<v Speaker 2>the safeties, whoever it is, they have to make, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the decisions on the grass, and we have to empower

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<v Speaker 2>them as coaches to make the decisions and get us

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<v Speaker 2>in the best defense and make sure everybody's playing.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, one unified call.

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<v Speaker 1>You were here when the Bengals drafted Logan Wilson and

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<v Speaker 1>obviously helped develop him. How significant is it to have

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<v Speaker 1>him still here to incorporate your defense.

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<v Speaker 2>I just can't wait to see him, to be honest

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<v Speaker 2>with you, he was one of my favorite players of

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<v Speaker 2>all time, just the way he conducted himself, the pro

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<v Speaker 2>that he is. I know he got banged up a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit last year, so I know he's gonna have

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<v Speaker 2>a little edge to him, and and I want to

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<v Speaker 2>help him every way I can maximize and become, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the best player that he can possibly be, the best

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<v Speaker 2>leader and I just can't wait to get to.

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<v Speaker 3>Work with him.

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<v Speaker 1>Notre Dame was number one in the country each of

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<v Speaker 1>the last two years. And pass efficiency defense that is

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<v Speaker 1>obviously so important in the NFL right now, What are

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<v Speaker 1>some of the keys to defending the pass?

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<v Speaker 2>I think you have to be flexible. You said it earlier.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think you can be rigid in your system.

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<v Speaker 2>And you have to have a you know, an offense.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, you have to have a defense that looks

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<v Speaker 2>at the offense every week and says who and what

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<v Speaker 2>can cause you to lose, and then obviously be malleable

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<v Speaker 2>enough that you can adopt and adjust to what they

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<v Speaker 2>do best and try to eliminate that. So part of

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<v Speaker 2>being really good in past defense is you're not a

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<v Speaker 2>flight afraid to play different coverages. It can't just be

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<v Speaker 2>locked into one thing. But give the quarterback different looks

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<v Speaker 2>pre snap, change the look post snap, and just make

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<v Speaker 2>sure you have enough that you're trying to direct the

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<v Speaker 2>ball away from the things that they do best.

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<v Speaker 1>How do you do that and be complex for the

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<v Speaker 1>opposing team's quarterback but still play fast?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, I think the biggest part of that

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<v Speaker 2>is to understand that the off season is critical. If

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<v Speaker 2>you want to play fast during the season, you've got

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<v Speaker 2>to push yourself through the off season. So the teaching,

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<v Speaker 2>the OTAs, the mini camps, all of those things are

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<v Speaker 2>going to be critical. And I'm a big believer in

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<v Speaker 2>not walking in on a Tuesday and creating something, but

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<v Speaker 2>rather drawing from the reservoir and saying, Okay, this is why.

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<v Speaker 3>We put this in.

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<v Speaker 2>We put this in for this quarterback and this wide

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<v Speaker 2>receiver or this tight end, and this is the week

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to use it. And now all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 2>the players have recall and that's what breeds you know, confidence,

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<v Speaker 2>that's what breeds success and ultimately allows them to play fast.

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<v Speaker 1>How valuable is your time in the AFC North.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I think it's really I think it's really valuable.

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<v Speaker 2>Everything that we're going to do is on the backdrop

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<v Speaker 2>of the AFC North. So you know, how we take

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<v Speaker 2>the ball away, how we tackle, the drills that we do,

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<v Speaker 2>the things that we need to you know, defend are

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<v Speaker 2>all going to be on the backdrop of of the

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<v Speaker 2>AFC North in the off season. So everything starts with

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<v Speaker 2>with the division. That's how we got there the last time.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, once you get in the tournament, we're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna be tough to beat with the quarterback that we have.

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<v Speaker 1>How close these days are coaching at college defense and

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<v Speaker 1>coaching an NFL dese?

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's that's a great question, because it's really

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<v Speaker 2>it's blurred a lot more than it was a decade ago.

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<v Speaker 2>You just see, you know, more quarterback runs now, more RPOs,

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<v Speaker 2>And I think the biggest thing that college teaches you

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<v Speaker 2>is you have to have a very very flexible system

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<v Speaker 2>because you could be playing Navy one week and and

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<v Speaker 2>then you know, Florida State the next week or USC

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<v Speaker 2>so every every every offense is is of its own DNA,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, and you've got to be able to be

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<v Speaker 2>flexible enough and have a system that that you know,

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<v Speaker 2>can bend and contort to solve the problems that each presents.

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<v Speaker 1>You mentioned Joe Burrow earlier. You've got Joe, You've got Jamar.

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<v Speaker 1>You've got tremendous players on offense that are obviously well

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<v Speaker 1>compensated as they should be. They're worth every penny, but

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<v Speaker 1>that means there's less money to spend elsewhere, and the

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<v Speaker 1>Bengals are going to have to have young players on

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<v Speaker 1>defense that's just the way it works. Is your college

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<v Speaker 1>experience helpful in developing those young guys?

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<v Speaker 2>I think development is at the core of everything that

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<v Speaker 2>we do on defense and making sure that we're great

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<v Speaker 2>at you know, ball disruption, we're awesome at tackling, and

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<v Speaker 2>that we understand the situations.

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<v Speaker 3>And then once the guys.

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<v Speaker 2>Understand that this is what we want, how do we

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<v Speaker 2>refine it and quality control it and get better And

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<v Speaker 2>ultimately to empower means to give them the culture so

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<v Speaker 2>that they're handing it down to the next group, or

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<v Speaker 2>you know, if the veterans come in and they're learning

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<v Speaker 2>it now, we draft some guys or bring some guys

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<v Speaker 2>in that they can manage it in the locker room,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's how it catches fire. And so I think

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<v Speaker 2>if we're going to be young, that's great, but it

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't mean we can't execute a really, really high level.

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<v Speaker 2>And there are no excuses at this level. Certainly, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we're on the clock and we got to get to work.

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<v Speaker 1>As you know from your previous experience here, the assistant

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<v Speaker 1>coaches have a significant voice in the drafting process and

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<v Speaker 1>in the free agency process. Is that's something that appealed

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<v Speaker 1>to you about coming back.

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<v Speaker 3>No question.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's a very very collaborative, you know system

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<v Speaker 2>in terms of that process, you know, the free agency

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<v Speaker 2>and then ultimately the draft, and I love to be

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<v Speaker 2>in a part of that. I loved having a voice

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<v Speaker 2>and more than anything, just share the vision. It was

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<v Speaker 2>the vision of the linebackers, you know, four and five

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<v Speaker 2>years ago, and now it's more just the vision of

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<v Speaker 2>how we see the pieces coming together and what we

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<v Speaker 2>need to you know, to really operate.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, for a twenty one game season.

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<v Speaker 1>What are some of the biggest things you look for

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<v Speaker 1>with evaluating defensive talent?

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<v Speaker 2>I think football IQ is really important, you know. I

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<v Speaker 2>always say, like it's pretty easy to see guys that

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<v Speaker 2>are outstanding on tape. You can look at them and

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<v Speaker 2>see that they're they're just different athletically. But what's going

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<v Speaker 2>to endure in in this locker room and in the

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<v Speaker 2>NFL in general is the process?

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<v Speaker 3>Right?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, do they have a process? Are they jim rats?

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<v Speaker 2>Do they love being around the film room? Are they

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<v Speaker 2>are they hanging around the weight room or it's trying

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<v Speaker 2>to get extras, uh, stretching and things of that nature.

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<v Speaker 2>What's their football IQ like? You know, are they audible,

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<v Speaker 2>are they demonstrative? You know, did they lead their defense?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, if you're looking at linebackers, did you run

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<v Speaker 2>your defense? It's really important.

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<v Speaker 3>Safeties, communication, Those are just some of the things.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I can go on and on, but I

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<v Speaker 2>think ultimately, you know, you have you have to have one,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, a bunch of guys that are confident, that

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<v Speaker 2>are that we're leaders in their organization, that are verbal

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<v Speaker 2>and can solve problems on the grass because the way

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<v Speaker 2>offenses these days, a lot of you know, you can't

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<v Speaker 2>have the perfect call. You got to get us into

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<v Speaker 2>a call that everybody's on the same page and we

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<v Speaker 2>can operate as one on.

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<v Speaker 1>With all in a moment. But first, a quick reminder

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<v Speaker 1>You've got the NFL SAC leader on your defense in

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<v Speaker 1>Trey Hendrickson. Obviously you worked with Trey in the Super

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<v Speaker 1>Bowl season in twenty twenty one. What's he mean to

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<v Speaker 1>the Cincinnati.

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<v Speaker 2>D fierce competitor. I just remember what a fierce competitor

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<v Speaker 2>he was and how much it meant to him. And ultimately,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, our job is going to be just you know,

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<v Speaker 2>number one, get them into passing downs, get them into

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<v Speaker 2>throwing downs, get them into third and longer so that

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<v Speaker 2>we can use his strengths. And then from there, our

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<v Speaker 2>job is to get him the matchup that we need

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<v Speaker 2>for him to continue to play at a really, really

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<v Speaker 2>high level. And I've always admired him from day one,

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<v Speaker 2>just how explosive he was and how tough he was

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<v Speaker 2>and how competitive he was. And you know, the one

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<v Speaker 2>thing about that Super Bowl year, Trey, you know, played

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<v Speaker 2>his best when his best was needed, and he he was,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, awesome there. And I can't wait to be

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<v Speaker 2>reacquainted with him.

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<v Speaker 1>Is it a priority to add pass rushing help?

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<v Speaker 3>Always?

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<v Speaker 2>Always, if you have an offense that scores, uh, and

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<v Speaker 2>you could take the ball away and and and be

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<v Speaker 2>good in the red zone and be good on third down,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, you hope you're playing with the lead a lot,

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<v Speaker 2>and uh, if you're playing with the lead, you got

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<v Speaker 2>to have pass rushers and and that that that doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>just mean the four down pass rushers can come from

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<v Speaker 2>anywhere in terms of the linebacker group, longer linebackers, guys

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<v Speaker 2>that can move to the edge or move around and

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<v Speaker 2>give us rushes anywhere. But it's all about finding the

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<v Speaker 2>matchups that you need on third down and and obviously

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<v Speaker 2>make making sure that everybody that contributes on defense is

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<v Speaker 2>doing what they do best.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you feel like it's important to add size inside,

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<v Speaker 1>particularly playing six games in the AFC.

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<v Speaker 2>North, no doubt, especially with the running attacks that we'll see.

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't looked at the schedule yet. Overall, that's something

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<v Speaker 2>we'll do in the off season. But obviously if you

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<v Speaker 2>can stop the run, and more importantly than that is

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<v Speaker 2>you can't always play an out number box in this

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<v Speaker 2>day and age in the NFL, and so you need

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<v Speaker 2>some guys that can gap in half or get the

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<v Speaker 2>ball on the ground without having an out number box.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think that's where the scheme is important. That's

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<v Speaker 2>where having that size and strength and you know, those

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<v Speaker 2>are the guys that you know we're hoping to move

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<v Speaker 2>forward with you know, in the future, what's your base, Well,

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<v Speaker 2>for two nickels, the base if it was twelve or

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<v Speaker 2>twenty one personnel, probably four to three.

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<v Speaker 3>But it's going to be flexible.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not just you know, this is you know, we're

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<v Speaker 2>not just wooden statues.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>We we try to provide different looks and be crafty

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<v Speaker 2>with that. And I think once we get in here

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<v Speaker 2>and we see our personnel, we'll go We'll do it

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<v Speaker 2>our what our guys do best.

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<v Speaker 1>Notre Dame had viper position. What is that? And is

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<v Speaker 1>that something you will try to incorporate?

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<v Speaker 3>And since it is, what do we call him here?

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<v Speaker 3>The rush or what's he called here?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you know the combination kind of outside back rush

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<v Speaker 2>and yeah, so it's uh, I think that's what it

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<v Speaker 2>was called here when I left.

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<v Speaker 3>It's the same thing. It's just different nomenclature.

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<v Speaker 2>But at the end of the day, somebody that has

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<v Speaker 2>the flexibility to you know, rush the pasture, but enough

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<v Speaker 2>athleticism to drop and obviously enough length to set the

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<v Speaker 2>edge when when called on.

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<v Speaker 1>It's been reported that Jerry Montgomery is going to be

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<v Speaker 1>the defensive line coach. Do you have a pre existing

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<v Speaker 1>relationship with Jerry and what can you tell us about.

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<v Speaker 2>Him just going against him when I was in the

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<v Speaker 2>NFC North with the Lions, just going against him, how

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<v Speaker 2>much respect we had for him, obviously had Mike Daniels

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<v Speaker 2>back then and Mike's hey day in his prime.

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<v Speaker 3>I know Mike thinks the.

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<v Speaker 2>World of him, and and I've had some interaction with

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<v Speaker 2>him and just really really impressed with the way he

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<v Speaker 2>operates his room, and and you know what he believes

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<v Speaker 2>in and how he operates on a daily basis.

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<v Speaker 3>So excited to get going with him.

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<v Speaker 1>Any thoughts on how to try to avoid a slow start, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I think, you know, when you talk about something like that,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's more we get together, you know, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>pitch coach Simmons, myself, Zach, the staff in general, and

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<v Speaker 1>and that's kind of an in house thing, like what

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<v Speaker 1>do we need to do in house wise to solve

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<v Speaker 1>that problem because obviously that that's that's a sensitive subject

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of you know, we all know that that's.

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<v Speaker 2>Something that will be on the dock at this offseason

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<v Speaker 2>in terms of starting faster, But in terms of giving

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<v Speaker 2>you ideas, I think that would that would you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's best to keep that in house and and

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<v Speaker 2>work through Zach on that.

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<v Speaker 1>What are some of the first things on your plate

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<v Speaker 1>for this job.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, take a deep breath, you know, make sure we

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<v Speaker 2>get we get the right guys on the bus in

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<v Speaker 2>terms of hiring, and make sure everybody's compatible with what

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<v Speaker 2>we want to do.

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<v Speaker 3>That's really important.

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<v Speaker 2>There's so many great coaches in the NFL, and the

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<v Speaker 2>most important thing is compatibility and supporting each other and

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<v Speaker 2>making sure you're all on the same page page in

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<v Speaker 2>terms of what you want to teach. I think the

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<v Speaker 2>other thing then is you know, the acquisition of talent.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what where do we need to go, and

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<v Speaker 2>you know whether it's the retention of certain guys. But

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<v Speaker 2>those are all the decisions that are going to be

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<v Speaker 2>made here in the next month, and I'm looking forward

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<v Speaker 2>to getting to work on that and obviously getting reacquainted

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<v Speaker 2>with so many guys that we shared great things with

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<v Speaker 2>a couple.

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<v Speaker 3>Of years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>How closely have you stayed in contact with Zach and

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<v Speaker 1>how closely have you followed the team.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not a big.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I'm not a big phone guy or whatever,

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<v Speaker 2>But I think the one thing is just how much

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<v Speaker 2>respect that I've had for Zach and just wishing him

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<v Speaker 2>good luck and then he doing the same. Or whether

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<v Speaker 2>you know Darren Simmons or Joey Bose or whoever it is,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, just guys that I have an incredible familiarity

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<v Speaker 2>with respect for. And then just knowing how hard to is,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, to win and win consistently, and and just

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<v Speaker 2>making sure those guys know we're always We're always thinking

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<v Speaker 2>of them. We were great fans when we weren't here,

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<v Speaker 2>and uh, just an honor to be back and uh

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<v Speaker 2>and and call ourselves Bangles again.

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<v Speaker 1>What are your most vivid memories of Super Bowl fifty six?

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<v Speaker 2>The probably the most vivid memory is probably not a

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<v Speaker 2>great one.

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<v Speaker 3>It was when the confetti was falling.

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<v Speaker 2>Just it was surreal, you know, uh, that that it

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<v Speaker 2>was over and we and we came up short. And

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<v Speaker 2>I think, you know, having been in the last game

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<v Speaker 2>of the year, you know, three years apart is something special.

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<v Speaker 2>And uh, I know Zach feels this way. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>we got to do everything we can to get back

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<v Speaker 2>there and and hopefully rewrite that last little script.

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<v Speaker 1>You came down to meet with me right after being

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<v Speaker 1>upstairs and meeting with Mike Brown. What is it about

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<v Speaker 1>Mike that allowed you to develop a tight bond with him?

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<v Speaker 2>Number One, He's so easy to talk to. It's like

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<v Speaker 2>talking to your father or grandfather. I just think he's

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<v Speaker 2>a people's person. You know, he's part of the fabric

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<v Speaker 2>of the community. And that's the thing I think, just

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<v Speaker 2>the family just you know, you're walking in you get

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<v Speaker 2>hugs from Katie and Troy and Elizabeth and Caroline and

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<v Speaker 2>PB and just it's just it's a you know, you

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<v Speaker 2>feel like you're part of a family and it makes

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<v Speaker 2>you feel good because you feel like that in some way,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe you improved it the last time you were here

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<v Speaker 2>and maybe that's why this opportunity was available now.

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<v Speaker 3>But mister Brown is.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, it's amazing for him, you know, to be

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<v Speaker 2>you know, still hands on and it means the world

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<v Speaker 2>to him.

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<v Speaker 3>And what would be what.

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<v Speaker 2>Would be more meaningful for all of us to bring

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<v Speaker 2>a championship to him.

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<v Speaker 1>There are a lot of Cincinnati connections on the Notre

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<v Speaker 1>Dame staff, Marcus Freeman, obviously, Gino Goodueling, Mike Nickens and others.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you guys talk about Cincinnati frequently?

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<v Speaker 3>Crazy?

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<v Speaker 2>We're all fans. I mean, we're all no, we all

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<v Speaker 2>wanted the Bengals to win, you know. And uh, you

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<v Speaker 2>know Doug Rossfeld, you know, he was coaching at Moeller

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<v Speaker 2>when I was, you know, head.

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<v Speaker 3>Coach in college.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, so I would I would you know, go

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<v Speaker 2>by there or he sent us some players and that

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<v Speaker 2>kind of thing. So just that the connections are are.

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<v Speaker 2>There's no escape in those connections. And the one thing

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<v Speaker 2>that everybody says is the same thing, the sense of

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<v Speaker 2>community here, how special the place is. And uh, it's

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<v Speaker 2>a place that a lot of people love to call home.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, these these high schools in this area. This

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<v Speaker 2>is like colleges in other places. The alumni, the sense

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<v Speaker 2>of family. Uh, and it doesn't matter, you know, where

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<v Speaker 2>you go in this area. It's just amazing how proud

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<v Speaker 2>people are to say that I went to mol I

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<v Speaker 2>went to say An, Next, I went to Elder. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>I can go on and on, but you get the idea.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just a it's just a really special place.

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<v Speaker 1>He been very successful college head coach at Temple in Miami.

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<v Speaker 1>You coach offense and defense in the NFL. You've been

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<v Speaker 1>a defensive coordinator at a couple of stops in college football.

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<v Speaker 1>How have all of these experiences added up to make

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<v Speaker 1>you the person that can help take the Cincinnati defense

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<v Speaker 1>to the next level.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I think you know you talked earlier about being

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<v Speaker 2>flexible and being collaborative.

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<v Speaker 3>I think those are those are.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, everybody wants to be empowered, And how people

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<v Speaker 2>work best is when you give them a job to

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<v Speaker 2>do and then you give them all the resources, time,

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<v Speaker 2>energy they need to be successful on it. And for me,

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<v Speaker 2>I think I do a really good job and plotting

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<v Speaker 2>the course and then letting the guys work, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and being there to support every every you know, every

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<v Speaker 2>step of the way. And I think whatever it takes

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<v Speaker 2>for us to add up to more. Like at the

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<v Speaker 2>end of the day, that's what the NFL is. It's

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<v Speaker 2>like Nascar, right, everybody's got the same car, everybody's got

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<v Speaker 2>the same tires, everybody's got the same gas. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>how do we how do how does our you know,

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<v Speaker 2>our culture to collect capacity of our people create more

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<v Speaker 2>value on any given Sunday than our opponents. And that's

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<v Speaker 2>what we're trying to do. And I think that starts

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<v Speaker 2>with our leadership in Zach and Darren and Pitch and

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<v Speaker 2>myself and obviously if everybody on the staff feels like

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<v Speaker 2>they have a voice and they feel like they have

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<v Speaker 2>something to contribute, then man, I'm going to you know, ideas,

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<v Speaker 2>ideas are important.

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<v Speaker 1>Great to have you back, Appreciate your time to work

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<v Speaker 1>with you again.

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<v Speaker 3>Great to see you.

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