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Speaker 1: My name is Clay Nukeleman. I'm the host of the

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Speaker 1: Bear Hunting Magazine podcast. I'll also be your host into

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Speaker 1: also bring you into some of the wildest country on

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Speaker 1: the planet chasing bare. This is a difficult podcast for

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Speaker 1: I'll probably remember forever. I had the opportunity to go

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Speaker 1: to East Tennessee and to sit down with Mr Roy

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Speaker 1: Clark and some of his very close family that it

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Speaker 1: While it was there was a lot of people in

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Speaker 1: Roy is a long time, real deal Appalachian bear hunter

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Speaker 1: and dog breeder and houndsman. Roy is one of those

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Speaker 1: to because of that reason. Roy is um He's he's

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Speaker 1: I don't want this to be like we're highlighting this guy,

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Speaker 1: to let this peek into Roy Clark's life, the way

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Speaker 1: Because there's a lot of great hunters. There's a lot

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Speaker 1: But I'd stay with him, and then sometimes he'd get

425
00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:42,159
Speaker 1: he didn't care for me of being now much and

426
00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:45,119
Speaker 1: he didn't say much. But if if my cousin like

427
00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:48,920
Speaker 1: Bob and and if lack Emmers are going in chipper

428
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:53,479
Speaker 1: and there's a guy that he worked with down in Orch,

429
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:58,159
Speaker 1: South Carolina, and he had two boys, and if he

430
00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:02,240
Speaker 1: if he had to watch about fire pub them was

431
00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:05,560
Speaker 1: then he'd get short of tea dof and he'd tell

432
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:10,679
Speaker 1: him he wanted to go babysitting and stuff. But I

433
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:13,480
Speaker 1: could make it with him. Good. But then come at

434
00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:16,680
Speaker 1: the time when we'd go over with under twelve miles

435
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:19,960
Speaker 1: trip of walking through the woods trying to find a

436
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:23,320
Speaker 1: by track, and I won't have enough people to lead dogs.

437
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:28,040
Speaker 1: And and I Daddy'd make me get Ramlar, which was

438
00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:32,359
Speaker 1: a trail doll. And he was pretty good until he

439
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:35,119
Speaker 1: smelled a bar. Then when he smelled a bar, you

440
00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:37,560
Speaker 1: couldn't do nothing with him in But he'd make me

441
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:41,640
Speaker 1: lead him out in front. Um, and I walk into

442
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:46,720
Speaker 1: the woods and uh. And if he smelled a buyar

443
00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:48,720
Speaker 1: the back on the way, I could stop and drappidly

444
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:52,160
Speaker 1: just drop around a tree or something. And and then

445
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:55,640
Speaker 1: but even if Daddy found a buyer, if we found

446
00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 1: a bar, and so he was leading on a buy

447
00:28:57,080 --> 00:29:01,880
Speaker 1: or something and uh, and he had time up right here,

448
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:04,200
Speaker 1: I'd had to stay there with him. And he'd go

449
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:05,920
Speaker 1: down through they trying to see which way it went

450
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 1: for score war. And then he had holler back for

451
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:11,400
Speaker 1: me to bring a dog team. And I knowd what

452
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:14,440
Speaker 1: was gonna happen as soon as I took him lose

453
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:17,320
Speaker 1: that he was gonna take me down through They're just

454
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:22,280
Speaker 1: like a sled runner and um and and and I

455
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:24,320
Speaker 1: only hope I had, But I couldn't turn him loose

456
00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:27,360
Speaker 1: because Daddy too he he had to work me over

457
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:30,640
Speaker 1: if I turned him loose, so I'd hold on to him.

458
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:33,080
Speaker 1: And and I only hope I had was when I

459
00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:35,880
Speaker 1: got the daddy that he grabbed the dog leading and

460
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:41,400
Speaker 1: called him in. And uh one time I told my

461
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 1: grandpa and a couch and I was scared some too,

462
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:52,880
Speaker 1: I guess about six year old probably, And I got

463
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:57,960
Speaker 1: off one of them that over deals and and I

464
00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:01,040
Speaker 1: told Pappy, I said, I'm tenure right now, Pappy, the

465
00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:03,840
Speaker 1: next time I come a bar hunting, I'll be big

466
00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:12,040
Speaker 1: enough to tell anybody that I ain't leading their dogs. Uh.

467
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:16,040
Speaker 1: Now you got he used to camp? Tell it? Tell

468
00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:19,280
Speaker 1: us how you camped back then? Well he had a

469
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:25,840
Speaker 1: he had an old log truck and and we love

470
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:30,160
Speaker 1: that log truck down with dogs and food and tarpolian

471
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:32,520
Speaker 1: and all the stuff we needed to hunt with. And

472
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:35,080
Speaker 1: we go to the twelve miles strap, go in over

473
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:40,920
Speaker 1: uh oliver and leitish and go into ditch branch and

474
00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:44,480
Speaker 1: take it back in there to to ditch branch and

475
00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:49,560
Speaker 1: shut it up back there to uh uh tee the

476
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:52,560
Speaker 1: dogs up and fix the back of it to sleep in,

477
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:55,360
Speaker 1: and put a tarpolian over the bed of it, and

478
00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:58,400
Speaker 1: let the tarpolian come out over the side of it,

479
00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:03,480
Speaker 1: and put the Coleman stove and stuff under there to

480
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:08,360
Speaker 1: cook on stud and walk and hunt. From my what

481
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:11,200
Speaker 1: time of year would you did y'all do that? Well?

482
00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:15,840
Speaker 1: Had always open the closest Monday to the fifteenth of

483
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:18,880
Speaker 1: October has been North Carolina just about ever since I

484
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 1: can remember. Don't you think it might have opened the

485
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:24,200
Speaker 1: first October years ago when I was a little ain't shore,

486
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:28,200
Speaker 1: But for years and years that was in North Carolina,

487
00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:32,880
Speaker 1: as in North Carolina, just a few miles from here, though. Yeah,

488
00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:35,880
Speaker 1: you can see the mountains off your front porch, or

489
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:38,840
Speaker 1: is the North Carolina border? That's bad. But if you

490
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:41,640
Speaker 1: go up the gorge and before you get to the

491
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:43,720
Speaker 1: rest story and you look over there to the right

492
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:50,200
Speaker 1: over on outside, that's right there, that's ok. So how

493
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:55,959
Speaker 1: long would y'all how long would y'all hunt? He had

494
00:31:56,000 --> 00:32:00,920
Speaker 1: about Daddy stayed open like six weeks, And what time

495
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 1: he stayed drunk was a right smart. But we stayed

496
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:10,960
Speaker 1: in hunted about the whole time that it was up.

497
00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:12,840
Speaker 1: And now I'm sure I had to go to school

498
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:15,240
Speaker 1: when it's school time and stuff. But we've done a

499
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:18,760
Speaker 1: right smarter hunting and he'd done a right smar to drink.

500
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:24,920
Speaker 1: Sleeping did you uh sleep in the hey? Did you

501
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:28,080
Speaker 1: bring hay to sleep on? Yeah? We put that down

502
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:33,960
Speaker 1: in there. M hm uh Bridge been in on chunk

503
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:37,120
Speaker 1: with the head. Yeah. Mr Britt hunt with you back then.

504
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:46,640
Speaker 1: Now I know he didn't drink well, he would not much,

505
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:50,520
Speaker 1: I'll say this, not much. But now when he got

506
00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 1: that way, buddy, he is happy. Man. Oh so those

507
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:03,520
Speaker 1: that was your Now, do you really remember much about

508
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 1: the hunting back? I mean, do you remember the y'all?

509
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 1: Back then? There weren't many bad I remember it right here,

510
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:14,040
Speaker 1: and I guess here's the truth. It was probably, uh,

511
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:19,240
Speaker 1: I guess moren likely. HiT's probably the only by Pappy kill. Probably,

512
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:22,360
Speaker 1: And we was over there and I'm dogs are up

513
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 1: with it, and I was a little really I don't

514
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:28,200
Speaker 1: know how old, but I wasn't being I was scared today, buddy,

515
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 1: And here's coming at bar right up towards us, and

516
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:32,640
Speaker 1: that bars are coming. I don't know if Britains over

517
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:35,800
Speaker 1: hunting that there nong And it was a coming up

518
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:38,920
Speaker 1: to the road. And we was a pasta sand beach

519
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:41,960
Speaker 1: down there, that big curb and down to there, and

520
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:45,600
Speaker 1: the powerlines off down here and here and Vail Grooms

521
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:49,200
Speaker 1: was a father in that buy and and here men,

522
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:51,960
Speaker 1: Pappy was in the road and here at bar was

523
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:57,080
Speaker 1: a coming to the road and Pappy uh killed him

524
00:33:57,120 --> 00:34:00,480
Speaker 1: and maybe the only bar ever killed, but he killed him.

525
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:05,360
Speaker 1: And Uh, I was wanting to climb a tree, buddy,

526
00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:08,319
Speaker 1: That's what I just wanted to get out of the way.

527
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:10,680
Speaker 1: But in a way he got it killed and veiled.

528
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:13,799
Speaker 1: Come on up fire. And then they told after that

529
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:17,960
Speaker 1: about Pappy. I think he had a hand in that.

530
00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:21,000
Speaker 1: But if he didn't, I know him. And ever Gant

531
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:25,200
Speaker 1: and someone probably had to hand in into said when

532
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 1: they got around there where Pappy was at that he

533
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:31,000
Speaker 1: was laying in a road and he kicked a big

534
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:34,360
Speaker 1: hole out in the road over there, and worried scared

535
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:37,399
Speaker 1: him tobad he pushed out and kicked a big hole

536
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:39,279
Speaker 1: in the road and said he looked up at him

537
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:46,080
Speaker 1: and should buy. Now. Pappy didn't like that too good,

538
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:50,560
Speaker 1: did he? No, he didn't like that too good. That

539
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:54,400
Speaker 1: was at the bar he killed killed now we're you

540
00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 1: stand there with him. So he death. No, he didn't that.

541
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:08,920
Speaker 1: They just told that on the okay, okay, uh no,

542
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:12,160
Speaker 1: he didn't do nothing. Okay, okay, I get it. I

543
00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 1: get it now. I don't know if that's one one

544
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:21,480
Speaker 1: he ever killed or not for it. No, well, Brett

545
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:27,040
Speaker 1: kill one right up here in the good And actually

546
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:32,080
Speaker 1: that buyer come down to there and we was trying

547
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:35,560
Speaker 1: to follow it down the creek and his daddy, what's

548
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:42,640
Speaker 1: her daddy and I believe me chers together huh daddy

549
00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:45,600
Speaker 1: Floordrey and daddy and and they come down the creek

550
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:49,320
Speaker 1: and men chipper. We come off in our shop more another.

551
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:54,200
Speaker 1: But Britt was in the jeep and the bar come

552
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 1: down there and went up and went up shall be

553
00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 1: it went acrossed through the campground iron and up that

554
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:06,560
Speaker 1: way and and up south bed. Well. Brett went to

555
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 1: the creek down Iron, the waters still running in the creek,

556
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:11,799
Speaker 1: and we got down there worried knocked it or dry

557
00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:16,759
Speaker 1: and uh and and then old jeeps who had had

558
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:21,920
Speaker 1: that four wheel drapstick and stuff, you know, and and

559
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:25,360
Speaker 1: the rubber would be broke frombing. You know. Need to

560
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:26,880
Speaker 1: just be a hole you could just sit down to

561
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:29,560
Speaker 1: the ground. Well, we got some of them. We got

562
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 1: two radios. They had a white face Johnson and a

563
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:35,319
Speaker 1: blackface Johnson had all I'm hold, you could see all

564
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:38,719
Speaker 1: the tubes, any all, I'm hold you looked in and

565
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 1: see the tubes in. But when they'd run through them

566
00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:44,520
Speaker 1: creeks and splatter at water upon them, hit them tubes

567
00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:47,359
Speaker 1: and blow them out. And then it had to go

568
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:51,440
Speaker 1: over to Charla Gago here and and he had stuff

569
00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:53,239
Speaker 1: to feax it with. I don't know where we got

570
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:55,680
Speaker 1: but and anyhow, he'd done so much stuff in the

571
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:58,200
Speaker 1: army and he put them tubes and stuff back in

572
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:00,880
Speaker 1: them radio. But now he's hard to keep him radio

573
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:05,439
Speaker 1: for working. But anyway, he got that fire. And when

574
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:09,359
Speaker 1: he got that fire, he caught that buyer and had

575
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:13,880
Speaker 1: it down and and he was trying to hold on

576
00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 1: and buy Laura bushes and the dogs are pulling it

577
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:20,520
Speaker 1: backward down to darn hit a button on Damn LRD,

578
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 1: but he stuck. Gonna gets him, killed him. M hm

579
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:35,280
Speaker 1: m hm. You won't add anything to that. Now, Brenda

580
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:38,800
Speaker 1: was gonna have us all hold up our left hands

581
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:42,239
Speaker 1: to swear that the truth was being told? Is that right?

582
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:53,759
Speaker 1: Miss Brenda. Uh, and he didn't yeh, he'd go with

583
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 1: Daddy Raschmore when he was younger. And then he actually,

584
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:04,040
Speaker 1: I give you the head beach, didn't I? I give

585
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:08,000
Speaker 1: him a dog. I actually might give him two dogs?

586
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:10,400
Speaker 1: Did you do dogs down? Or do you have a

587
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:13,920
Speaker 1: quarto beach down? Her tur just day had beat anyway

588
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 1: questions to the live audience out here, and he kept

589
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:22,720
Speaker 1: her there. And then he got big enough to court

590
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:25,440
Speaker 1: and big enough to run around and stuff, and and

591
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:29,840
Speaker 1: I got her back, I guess. And and uh, now

592
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 1: he's come back around pretty Charlotte here since he's got

593
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:38,959
Speaker 1: a little older. So now tell me how your dad

594
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:44,080
Speaker 1: got into plots. So now we've established that you've been

595
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 1: hunting your whole life. But I guess it's a step back.

596
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:48,960
Speaker 1: Well if you went back to the first start of

597
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:52,560
Speaker 1: what I know. It was ken Holt, which was a

598
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:55,279
Speaker 1: sure for Cock County, lived right across the road from

599
00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 1: us down here, and and uh, now this is for

600
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:02,480
Speaker 1: I was born. Yeah, uh stuff from some of the

601
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 1: stuff I'm talking about now was fore I was born.

602
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:09,480
Speaker 1: And and like he was good friends with Daddy and

603
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:12,520
Speaker 1: Pappy and they was good friends with Hollis Sutton, which

604
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:17,560
Speaker 1: lived on Mount Sterling over here, and and and actually

605
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:22,799
Speaker 1: the sheriff of some county in North Carolina. I don't

606
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 1: know Jack of which county Goldie Ferguson, he was the

607
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:30,000
Speaker 1: sheriff of fire and through ken hold in Goldie Ferguson

608
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:36,759
Speaker 1: being sheriff in two different states. But border like and

609
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:44,320
Speaker 1: uh somewhere another. They got plot dogs, uh like before.

610
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:47,640
Speaker 1: They's pretty hard to get. But I mean they had

611
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 1: plot dogs, and and and Ken had damn well, my

612
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:55,840
Speaker 1: grandpa had one. And his name was Smokey. You probably

613
00:39:55,840 --> 00:40:03,759
Speaker 1: remember him bread Smokey it Pappy had. But anyway, he

614
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 1: was coon dog. I don't know how good he's done

615
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:11,319
Speaker 1: on a buyer, but but he would you could take

616
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:12,680
Speaker 1: him up and with up and come up with you.

617
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:15,160
Speaker 1: Wasn't a lot of coons. I mean, you're just lucky

618
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:17,640
Speaker 1: to get after coming. But if fat Shucker went up

619
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:20,680
Speaker 1: a branch, he's gonna strack. If he went up at bran,

620
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 1: well then that come on up with a few plots.

621
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:27,839
Speaker 1: And Daddy had a little plot that Kenn he'd give him,

622
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:30,359
Speaker 1: I reckon and he called him rock, which they run

623
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:33,640
Speaker 1: over for him. Daddy run over didn't eat bread. Did

624
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:38,319
Speaker 1: Daddy run over rock that plot dog that he had

625
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:43,800
Speaker 1: in any way? He Uh? And then when Charles can't

626
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:47,480
Speaker 1: come along, and we had them plots and stuff different

627
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:52,600
Speaker 1: dogs too. Uh had two hype our deals and hype

628
00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:56,960
Speaker 1: plantin Tannic, Britain. Daddy bought somebody in Newport and Uh,

629
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:06,759
Speaker 1: but Charge can't come to Daddy's. And that's say when

630
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:13,319
Speaker 1: I was little, Uh, and I guess big enough to

631
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:16,919
Speaker 1: remember Charlege gamp but not nothing, know nothing and talk

632
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:21,480
Speaker 1: to Daddy and they got to be friends and and

633
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:24,640
Speaker 1: Charge had a few dolls and they went to o'hio

634
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:28,800
Speaker 1: to get a dog to breed into them dolls. So

635
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:33,960
Speaker 1: that was in a I'm sure the early Fit is

636
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:38,200
Speaker 1: your show and uh, And I don't know if you've

637
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:40,319
Speaker 1: ever heard tell them any more or not you heard

638
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:45,600
Speaker 1: name to be any more? That hunted against that merchant

639
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:54,360
Speaker 1: at plot dog and that walker dog hunt off ahead anyway. Uh.

640
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:56,800
Speaker 1: They stayed on night with him. He was from Kentucky.

641
00:41:57,880 --> 00:41:59,719
Speaker 1: And then they went to Ohau and got that dog.

642
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:01,960
Speaker 1: I think I should come back through the stop and

643
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:04,239
Speaker 1: stayed all night. We have been coming back through and

644
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:07,279
Speaker 1: then come on home. But after Charge against started raising

645
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:11,279
Speaker 1: them dogs more or less. That's just sort of what

646
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:15,000
Speaker 1: we went to because he had breed dogs and let

647
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:18,160
Speaker 1: us have dogs and bring dogs up our first hunt

648
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:21,600
Speaker 1: and we could get you guys, were the boys from

649
00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 1: the mountains that were that's running these dogs? That true,

650
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:28,680
Speaker 1: Mr Ghan Yeah, And he would he would bring dog

651
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:32,239
Speaker 1: feed and everything else. And Britt got dogs off of him.

652
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:34,480
Speaker 1: And I'm sure Brett Honey sum it was a charge

653
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:38,520
Speaker 1: is too, didn't he. And so so that's how we

654
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:41,920
Speaker 1: come in and good friends with Charge Ghanton ever again.

655
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:47,240
Speaker 1: And they was good to us our family over the years.

656
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:51,120
Speaker 1: And I was partial to them dogs and stuff too

657
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:54,640
Speaker 1: that he had so seas dogs has still got that

658
00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:58,560
Speaker 1: in them today, some of it. And and actually some

659
00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:00,400
Speaker 1: of them if you went back from No would be

660
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:04,279
Speaker 1: going right back to this George again too, and some

661
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:07,640
Speaker 1: of the dogs before that that he bred too. U

662
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:15,360
Speaker 1: And then it comes a time and we got the

663
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:21,239
Speaker 1: to No Brick got an old army jeep and then

664
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:27,320
Speaker 1: Daddy got a fifty three or fifty four willis uh

665
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:34,040
Speaker 1: Daddy God, And and that's what we hunted out at.

666
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:37,880
Speaker 1: And and you put if you put six dogs and

667
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:41,840
Speaker 1: each one of them jeeves and put h three or

668
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:46,800
Speaker 1: four us in a jeep and it was a low buddy,

669
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:49,680
Speaker 1: And then were weren't near the bears back then that

670
00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:54,240
Speaker 1: there are now no no but and we had someone

671
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:56,680
Speaker 1: had to sit in there the dogs and have flice

672
00:43:56,760 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 1: all over. You didn't have dogs all over, nah, and

673
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:05,520
Speaker 1: and not have nothing to eat, and and get back

674
00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:08,480
Speaker 1: in the mountains and be back our all day. And

675
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:11,000
Speaker 1: maybe we'd have some apples in that old cheep, but

676
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:15,720
Speaker 1: rolled around in the dogman year. We'd pill of peelings

677
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:19,920
Speaker 1: off of them and eat him, buddy, uh, because nothing

678
00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:22,600
Speaker 1: you have to eat something you now nothing. You might

679
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:24,840
Speaker 1: go out the day and get fat a bar hunting,

680
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:27,680
Speaker 1: but you didn't get fat at the enner bar. And

681
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:32,960
Speaker 1: you're lucky if you could find it by buddy. Uh.

682
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:37,520
Speaker 1: So you hunted, You hunted with your dad all through

683
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:41,080
Speaker 1: being a young man, and then you you killed your

684
00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:44,279
Speaker 1: first bear, and then you kind of Actually daddy was

685
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:49,520
Speaker 1: hard to hunt with, but cou he would he wouldn't

686
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:52,880
Speaker 1: wait on you in the night, and we'd be little

687
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:56,279
Speaker 1: like Jay Lofton or like a cat boy, and we'd

688
00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:59,000
Speaker 1: try to follow him through the woods and stuff. Did

689
00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:02,560
Speaker 1: just try and put them off maybe and uh and

690
00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:04,640
Speaker 1: and he might stop away up Hiana and you get

691
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:07,680
Speaker 1: close enough to see him up Pianner and and and

692
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:11,959
Speaker 1: you'd be uh tarred and out of breath. And maybe

693
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:13,879
Speaker 1: you take a pitch of ice and running across your

694
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:18,000
Speaker 1: lips and our little snow to which he lips with.

695
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:20,799
Speaker 1: They'd crack oat and go to bleeding. And then by

696
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:23,400
Speaker 1: time you see him and getting nearly caught up with him,

697
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:28,640
Speaker 1: he'd take off again and be gone again. Was he athletic?

698
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:32,880
Speaker 1: He yeah, I mean he was, he was. He wasn't

699
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:36,600
Speaker 1: a giving up in him. Now, tell about how he

700
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:38,800
Speaker 1: used to coon hunt and they used to have to

701
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:41,960
Speaker 1: go find him, or Mr Brett would have to go hunting.

702
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:48,359
Speaker 1: But now they've they actually teach the truth. That man

703
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:52,240
Speaker 1: right on wire, which was my great uncle, couldn't honey

704
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:55,200
Speaker 1: chime and his brother which lives over on top of

705
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:58,759
Speaker 1: the hill, couldn't honey chime. Well, they'd take Daddy one

706
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:01,160
Speaker 1: night one of them would, and the next night the

707
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:05,359
Speaker 1: other to take him. Now they would leave here and

708
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:09,960
Speaker 1: won't plumb across Snowbird that mountain right there, over the

709
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:13,160
Speaker 1: top of Snowbird, and and down the other shining arm

710
00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:16,800
Speaker 1: and Den and come back in here to day. Somebody

711
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:19,640
Speaker 1: interpret that for us? Who doesn't know how tall Snowbird

712
00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:26,640
Speaker 1: is four thousand feet probably, I mean that's how far

713
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:30,200
Speaker 1: is that round trip? That's at least ten or fifteen miles.

714
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:36,160
Speaker 1: And it ain't lay up on nature. So he'd take

715
00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:39,680
Speaker 1: off on foot from like right here, dawn, like right here,

716
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:42,719
Speaker 1: right here. So you got a big creek running up

717
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:46,080
Speaker 1: from the house here that goes and then Snowbird is

718
00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 1: a big mountain towards North Carolina. Yeah wow. And then

719
00:46:52,080 --> 00:47:00,480
Speaker 1: now what would they and they they would they would

720
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:03,160
Speaker 1: pick him up, that's what you mean. They would take

721
00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:05,839
Speaker 1: him or or he would make a loop and come

722
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:08,080
Speaker 1: back to the house. No, they'd walk away him and

723
00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:11,400
Speaker 1: they go like he'd go like one night and the

724
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:13,239
Speaker 1: other go to the next night. They couldn't make it

725
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:17,960
Speaker 1: ever now hm. And now what about when they bear

726
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:21,680
Speaker 1: hunted and they'd spend a long time trying to find

727
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:24,360
Speaker 1: him out in the mountains because there were no radios

728
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:29,080
Speaker 1: that natural we had radiocean st and and and if

729
00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:32,960
Speaker 1: if Daddy took off out of the dolls and actually

730
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:36,840
Speaker 1: teach the truth, he's done this before Daddy started in

731
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:46,319
Speaker 1: the good the place, YEA, Why a gulf. For it

732
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:48,759
Speaker 1: took me about two days to figure out that you

733
00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:52,040
Speaker 1: were saying gulf with an l like the Gulf of Mexico.

734
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:58,279
Speaker 1: Got the gulf? Got it? Well, okay, he might take

735
00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:01,200
Speaker 1: off in the gun and then he go across the

736
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:05,640
Speaker 1: long Mountain in the boomer Dan upon round Mountain through

737
00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:08,800
Speaker 1: Rattlesnake and then the Wolf Creek and kill the Buyar

738
00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:13,279
Speaker 1: and kill the Buyar, and then Brett had had to

739
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:16,200
Speaker 1: find him, drive un till he found him, and and

740
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:20,239
Speaker 1: and him not even knowing where to start at, you know,

741
00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:24,319
Speaker 1: which was would be a tough task. But now brit

742
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:27,560
Speaker 1: had a bitch that started doing this right here. Now

743
00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:31,600
Speaker 1: this is what she learned. And them dogs and pretty

744
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:36,880
Speaker 1: good dogs, and this this day and how we're talking about. Uh,

745
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:40,080
Speaker 1: he had a beach would come backtrack, come back and

746
00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:43,399
Speaker 1: hunt daddy and take him to the tree. Mm hmm.

747
00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:47,960
Speaker 1: That's pretty smart, buddy. Now, I'd say there's a lot

748
00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:51,200
Speaker 1: of people out here wouldn't believe bad, but that's pretty smart.

749
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:56,560
Speaker 1: So dogs would tree. That dog would come back and

750
00:48:56,600 --> 00:48:59,080
Speaker 1: your dad would have been walking on the trail of

751
00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:01,320
Speaker 1: the dogs took as he was following him by hearing

752
00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:04,040
Speaker 1: am I right, come back and hunt that yet and

753
00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:06,160
Speaker 1: take him to the tree. And then once he found

754
00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:08,839
Speaker 1: him taking you've done it two or three times, I'll

755
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:15,879
Speaker 1: be that's something. Now. We witnessed him raise his hand

756
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:26,280
Speaker 1: and swear, uh yeah, yeah, that's pretty Brett. Mr Brett

757
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:38,560
Speaker 1: verifies this story. We have confirmation, all right, But I

758
00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:42,520
Speaker 1: tell you that's pretty smaller. Yeah, pretty smaller, and a

759
00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:45,960
Speaker 1: lot of people ain't gonna believe ahead. It's really changed

760
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:48,160
Speaker 1: a lot over the years. You know, you talked about

761
00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:50,560
Speaker 1: it as a lot of searching for a bear track

762
00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:53,040
Speaker 1: for years because they couldn't find one. They'd hunt for

763
00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:55,480
Speaker 1: days without finding the track, and then it woulcome. You

764
00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:58,040
Speaker 1: searched for days for Hugh l because he was gone

765
00:49:58,040 --> 00:50:02,600
Speaker 1: with the bar and the dogs for hours. And then uh,

766
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:05,840
Speaker 1: as we grew up, it was we searched high and

767
00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:08,759
Speaker 1: low and and listened to the beep beep collars and

768
00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:11,160
Speaker 1: and it was chasing dogs all the times. You know,

769
00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:12,680
Speaker 1: we had to buy our track, we had to buy

770
00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:14,560
Speaker 1: a running It was we got to find all the

771
00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:17,440
Speaker 1: dogs now. And you know, so the evolution of bar

772
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:21,319
Speaker 1: hun now is it's more about chasing the bar now

773
00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:23,520
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, out smart in the barn, figuring

774
00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:27,279
Speaker 1: that part of it out. Yeah, Well, he said he'd

775
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:29,279
Speaker 1: be lucky to kill four or five bears a year.

776
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:35,560
Speaker 1: I guess, you know, back in the early days. Uh,

777
00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:37,560
Speaker 1: Daddy killed one up here in a guff when I

778
00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:42,319
Speaker 1: used three, and Dad in Frick kill one, and Bill

779
00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:46,520
Speaker 1: Bigel and I probably that must just kill about three years,

780
00:50:46,560 --> 00:50:49,359
Speaker 1: because I believe I was probably. Yeah, he said they've

781
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:52,360
Speaker 1: hunted all year at different times. Mr Britt did and

782
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:57,400
Speaker 1: never found a track to run. But this time and

783
00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:05,280
Speaker 1: h pat it was a baby shed. And Britta and Daddy,

784
00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:08,480
Speaker 1: Bretta and Daddy and Bill big and went up through there,

785
00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:11,200
Speaker 1: and them dogs are running up middle Prong come up

786
00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:13,560
Speaker 1: across the road and just went up in our Matthew

787
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:17,120
Speaker 1: and treat on the side of the hill up fire

788
00:51:17,719 --> 00:51:19,600
Speaker 1: wanna you know, going up toward the back of some

789
00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:22,520
Speaker 1: more in that country. Well, we were sitting down here

790
00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:25,800
Speaker 1: to Bradley's act. We didn't the water going on. And

791
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:29,480
Speaker 1: Britt and Daddy and Bill goes up through there. They

792
00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:33,400
Speaker 1: go up here and when they get up our bridge

793
00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:36,560
Speaker 1: out of breast, so he flops his tail down those

794
00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:43,000
Speaker 1: two feet up on the tree. Yeah, and uh and

795
00:51:43,080 --> 00:51:44,920
Speaker 1: Daddy shams that light of far and right up her

796
00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:50,719
Speaker 1: sticking above him? Was that by so Daddy said, he

797
00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:53,840
Speaker 1: come up out of our buddy and and and Daddy

798
00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:57,680
Speaker 1: shot that by her and they never could find or

799
00:51:57,760 --> 00:52:01,480
Speaker 1: the eaty dad with a poker ball. It killed him.

800
00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:09,239
Speaker 1: But I think Britain Daddy thinks they scared him today.

801
00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:14,440
Speaker 1: But I think what happened Matthew was I think I

802
00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:18,200
Speaker 1: think what really happened was the punking ball hit the

803
00:52:18,239 --> 00:52:21,160
Speaker 1: teeth and it must have slid and jumped off of

804
00:52:21,239 --> 00:52:23,239
Speaker 1: one of them, and it must have witten his brain

805
00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:25,360
Speaker 1: and killed him. Well, what do you mean when you

806
00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:33,480
Speaker 1: say punking ball? Okay? Okay, oh out of a shotgun? Yeah, okay, Uh,

807
00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:38,560
Speaker 1: well punking balls okay here come here come Bill. He

808
00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:41,920
Speaker 1: had never made it to the tree, and Britain Daddy's

809
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:43,960
Speaker 1: up there, and Bill Bigham hadn't never made a tree

810
00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:47,400
Speaker 1: and uh and they shot it and your come buy

811
00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:50,080
Speaker 1: dogs and Brittain Daddy all down inside the mountain just

812
00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:53,680
Speaker 1: to roll and Buddy end over and down through dynamic

813
00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:55,919
Speaker 1: holler and Billy, you're coming towards you. And if you're

814
00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:58,640
Speaker 1: coming towards you, they said that flash that went around sideay,

815
00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:05,279
Speaker 1: so you can giving it that. Well, here they come

816
00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:10,360
Speaker 1: back down ore behore, we saying and sake colkins with

817
00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:16,000
Speaker 1: a stune and papias are drinking and uh and they

818
00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:21,719
Speaker 1: come up ore to there to the jeep, and and

819
00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:28,200
Speaker 1: Pappy said, Horgens kill coon. We killed the buy. Pappy said,

820
00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:30,000
Speaker 1: I'll eat it higher and all if you can just

821
00:53:30,080 --> 00:53:34,440
Speaker 1: kill them, buy, you better get ready to start eating

822
00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:39,880
Speaker 1: off they had they killed that. Byron brought down and

823
00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:42,400
Speaker 1: putting then a threat that you've seen it and done that,

824
00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:44,520
Speaker 1: he said, up there right now, don't ask me to

825
00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:52,279
Speaker 1: baby shutting the more. So okay, I'm trying to You

826
00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:55,359
Speaker 1: guys helped me stay on the timeline here, so we're

827
00:53:55,360 --> 00:54:01,759
Speaker 1: still we're still here back when uh, you were just

828
00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:05,279
Speaker 1: a boy hunting with your dad. Well, so when did

829
00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:08,319
Speaker 1: you start breeding dogs and hunting on your own as

830
00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:14,640
Speaker 1: an adult? Well, Daddy never would breed no dogs. He just,

831
00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:17,960
Speaker 1: I mean, charge gain't bred the dogs. And and and

832
00:54:17,960 --> 00:54:20,280
Speaker 1: and they got all the dogs they needed from Charles,

833
00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:23,200
Speaker 1: and back and forth whatever, and Charles come get what

834
00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:26,160
Speaker 1: dogs he wanted back and to raise PEPs from and

835
00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:28,000
Speaker 1: all that step. So it just went back and forth

836
00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:31,239
Speaker 1: like that right there. So he never did well, I'm

837
00:54:31,239 --> 00:54:39,120
Speaker 1: gonna say that I was men Herbert from married probably

838
00:54:39,120 --> 00:54:44,839
Speaker 1: before where I started raising dogs. Huh when you got

839
00:54:44,840 --> 00:54:48,839
Speaker 1: out of the service, but Klesha, I had burned little

840
00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:54,439
Speaker 1: child and and uh then when I come back home

841
00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:58,960
Speaker 1: out of service. Uh. I actually Charles Ghent called me,

842
00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:01,760
Speaker 1: want the beat I had it? Actually Britt had the beach.

843
00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:04,480
Speaker 1: And he give me his dog, so he should he

844
00:55:04,600 --> 00:55:08,600
Speaker 1: quit hunting and and uh, and he give me what

845
00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:11,359
Speaker 1: he had. And I and as one of them at

846
00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:15,200
Speaker 1: charge gant want him. So charge again about this walker

847
00:55:16,560 --> 00:55:21,000
Speaker 1: walker dog coon dog. The guy had paid five hundred

848
00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:24,920
Speaker 1: dollars for him, and he had as the right some

849
00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:29,239
Speaker 1: one of the money that long go and uh and

850
00:55:29,320 --> 00:55:31,879
Speaker 1: him and his wife had got a divorce, and he

851
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:34,840
Speaker 1: quit hunting and stuff, and he wanted to sell him.

852
00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:38,600
Speaker 1: Well he charge wann't buy him, Charge and they would

853
00:55:38,640 --> 00:55:41,760
Speaker 1: buy him. And he finally come down to about fifty

854
00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:45,560
Speaker 1: dollars on him, and Charge went ahead and bowed him.

855
00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:48,799
Speaker 1: But the day he brought him home, Charge gain, he

856
00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:51,719
Speaker 1: called me he should come and get this doll he

857
00:55:51,719 --> 00:55:54,479
Speaker 1: he didn't buy it to keep. He he he wasn't

858
00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:57,080
Speaker 1: gonna keep it. He's like, old don't have he wouldn't

859
00:55:57,120 --> 00:56:00,680
Speaker 1: have nothing but a plot. So he give him to me.

860
00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:03,719
Speaker 1: But I give him that beach to that that he

861
00:56:03,840 --> 00:56:10,000
Speaker 1: was wont and um and that was a walker dog. Yeah,

862
00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:12,800
Speaker 1: and that's probably the first gang of pups I ever raised.

863
00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:18,920
Speaker 1: May have been. It was from out old walker and

864
00:56:19,080 --> 00:56:21,960
Speaker 1: junior hill of our women as day in law, he

865
00:56:22,120 --> 00:56:26,839
Speaker 1: had a walker Bach, the registered beach and this dog

866
00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:29,600
Speaker 1: was raised. That dog was that beach. He had his

867
00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:32,439
Speaker 1: out of the the world champion. He paid three hundred dollars

868
00:56:32,440 --> 00:56:34,480
Speaker 1: for want you to puppy. He told me I could

869
00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:36,040
Speaker 1: bring her over here and raising gang of pups that

870
00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:39,360
Speaker 1: everyone wanted to. Well, I did and raised them pups

871
00:56:39,920 --> 00:56:43,480
Speaker 1: and Alabam pups. I got the as good as bar

872
00:56:43,600 --> 00:56:47,919
Speaker 1: dog we ever walked out of them pups. I had

873
00:56:47,960 --> 00:56:53,160
Speaker 1: a a good as a female. She was a good,

874
00:56:54,160 --> 00:56:59,839
Speaker 1: but the male was extra good and uh the old

875
00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:03,880
Speaker 1: in Yeah, and that made me short of like walkers

876
00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:08,160
Speaker 1: because he done some good and and I tried to

877
00:57:08,200 --> 00:57:11,840
Speaker 1: get some more, but that never happened. Nothing like what

878
00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:15,840
Speaker 1: he was. But now he was a dog. Did you

879
00:57:15,880 --> 00:57:19,520
Speaker 1: turn on the byre here and run it all day long?

880
00:57:20,560 --> 00:57:24,120
Speaker 1: All day and run ever dog you turn loose out

881
00:57:24,280 --> 00:57:28,520
Speaker 1: all the woods, gather up all i'm dogs, take them back,

882
00:57:28,880 --> 00:57:32,480
Speaker 1: pack them to the old water. End of the day.

883
00:57:33,160 --> 00:57:35,480
Speaker 1: Nothing be with him. He'd still be after the bar,

884
00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:38,680
Speaker 1: leave him out of a night, not get the bar

885
00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:41,160
Speaker 1: killed and leave him out of a night. He'd come

886
00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:44,320
Speaker 1: in to read cooks over there and read this pretty tight.

887
00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:46,080
Speaker 1: But he'd give him a little bit of corn bread

888
00:57:46,120 --> 00:57:48,600
Speaker 1: and stuff and take him right back the next day

889
00:57:49,240 --> 00:57:55,040
Speaker 1: do the same thing again. He was a tough sucker now, buddy, hm,

890
00:57:55,720 --> 00:57:59,439
Speaker 1: But what got you back onto the plots? I never

891
00:57:59,480 --> 00:58:02,000
Speaker 1: could come hope, and nothing else to can't even compare

892
00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:05,920
Speaker 1: with him. And I raised another game walkers, but they

893
00:58:05,920 --> 00:58:09,360
Speaker 1: didn't do what he done. And and actually my little

894
00:58:09,360 --> 00:58:13,440
Speaker 1: bitch Bret, that old cattle truck he had international had

895
00:58:13,480 --> 00:58:15,959
Speaker 1: that Cattleact on it, and you couldn't keep her tight

896
00:58:16,040 --> 00:58:19,400
Speaker 1: up unless she had a choke chain owner. She'd slip

897
00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:21,400
Speaker 1: every collar you could put two collars on her and

898
00:58:21,440 --> 00:58:24,600
Speaker 1: make it pretty good with her. So here I did come.

899
00:58:25,960 --> 00:58:28,640
Speaker 1: She come and hate a load on her truck and

900
00:58:28,680 --> 00:58:31,320
Speaker 1: around art to house, stop and went into use the bathroom.

901
00:58:31,720 --> 00:58:35,240
Speaker 1: Come back outside. She climbed over the truck hunger shaft.

902
00:58:35,320 --> 00:58:42,360
Speaker 1: Dead is a macro. Dead is a macro. Mhm. That

903
00:58:42,520 --> 00:58:45,160
Speaker 1: was the end of the Walkers. And so that was

904
00:58:45,200 --> 00:58:49,560
Speaker 1: back to Charles and the plots, right, and then I

905
00:58:49,560 --> 00:58:52,880
Speaker 1: guess well, i'd like you to say that Lee Roys,

906
00:58:53,480 --> 00:58:55,680
Speaker 1: they didn't come no better than he was. I don't care,

907
00:58:56,200 --> 00:59:00,000
Speaker 1: and I you know I've come over the years. Actually

908
00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:03,760
Speaker 1: a trail dol bred head right there, run anything and

909
00:59:03,880 --> 00:59:06,920
Speaker 1: she in the woods tell us about Bible six year

910
00:59:06,960 --> 00:59:12,040
Speaker 1: old and then that sucker quit and wonn't run nothing

911
00:59:12,040 --> 00:59:15,040
Speaker 1: but a buy and tell you something mill smart about

912
00:59:15,040 --> 00:59:17,840
Speaker 1: a doll. You'll find this hard to believe in a

913
00:59:17,880 --> 00:59:21,240
Speaker 1: lot of people won't believe. You could be in the

914
00:59:21,360 --> 00:59:26,120
Speaker 1: road right here. Dogs could be a running right down here.

915
00:59:27,160 --> 00:59:31,040
Speaker 1: If there's a running a buy son, he'd go to

916
00:59:31,120 --> 00:59:33,960
Speaker 1: him like a bullet. If they were to running junk,

917
00:59:34,440 --> 00:59:37,400
Speaker 1: you couldn't pry out the road. And how do you

918
00:59:37,480 --> 00:59:41,640
Speaker 1: know that? So you're saying without him smelling what they're smelling?

919
00:59:41,680 --> 00:59:45,680
Speaker 1: Anything he could just tell to say what he just said,

920
00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:51,000
Speaker 1: they couldn't hear it. Well, they left. They left him

921
00:59:51,200 --> 00:59:54,600
Speaker 1: over there in Green County. Where you're going where where

922
00:59:54,600 --> 00:59:59,960
Speaker 1: you're going to more next to Tracy's and that mountain

923
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:03,280
Speaker 1: with their name rock Cliffs. They left him over there

924
01:00:04,280 --> 01:00:08,600
Speaker 1: and the next day he was home here from over

925
01:00:08,680 --> 01:00:15,840
Speaker 1: there for at least well, now, which dog is this head? Okay,

926
01:00:15,840 --> 01:00:17,360
Speaker 1: this this is one of the plots. Let me tell

927
01:00:17,400 --> 01:00:19,560
Speaker 1: you something else about how Smarty was. Now, that's something

928
01:00:19,560 --> 01:00:24,520
Speaker 1: else you don't want to believe. Up, he wouldn't give

929
01:00:24,560 --> 01:00:26,320
Speaker 1: me to believe it. That's what I want to know.

930
01:00:26,360 --> 01:00:34,840
Speaker 1: If miss Brenda believe Brenda's gone to get a bible,

931
01:00:34,960 --> 01:00:41,880
Speaker 1: they say, here, I'll put my hand on. He wouldn't

932
01:00:41,880 --> 01:00:45,160
Speaker 1: give me. But he said, you can hunt him all

933
01:00:45,240 --> 01:00:47,640
Speaker 1: you want to. You just leave him here at the house.

934
01:00:48,320 --> 01:00:50,040
Speaker 1: Come and get him when you want to go hunting,

935
01:00:51,040 --> 01:00:54,439
Speaker 1: and do that right there, because you wanted to keep me. Well,

936
01:00:54,960 --> 01:00:57,320
Speaker 1: when it comes followed the year time to buy hunt,

937
01:00:58,760 --> 01:01:02,240
Speaker 1: that sucker would show up, but Daddy's or show up

938
01:01:02,280 --> 01:01:07,760
Speaker 1: at my house. You didn't have to go get He

939
01:01:07,880 --> 01:01:10,400
Speaker 1: just knew when it was time to go. Huh, that's

940
01:01:10,520 --> 01:01:14,800
Speaker 1: something buddy the dog just ran loose. Yeah, on the

941
01:01:14,920 --> 01:01:18,040
Speaker 1: last he let him just run a loop shoppier. Yeah,

942
01:01:18,880 --> 01:01:21,960
Speaker 1: but he didn't run my Lord of country and stuff.

943
01:01:22,000 --> 01:01:24,760
Speaker 1: But now when it comes hunt time. Here's r here's

944
01:01:24,840 --> 01:01:28,080
Speaker 1: going to hunt some one. But it's hard to believe it.

945
01:01:28,320 --> 01:01:31,080
Speaker 1: You think a dog could could know that? Well, I think,

946
01:01:31,280 --> 01:01:34,320
Speaker 1: I mean, a bear knows when the acrons are falling

947
01:01:34,400 --> 01:01:38,440
Speaker 1: up in a certain spot during that time. Right now,

948
01:01:38,640 --> 01:01:42,000
Speaker 1: we're convinced they know where the lions are. They're smarter dogs.

949
01:01:42,840 --> 01:01:45,800
Speaker 1: They're smarter dogs out here than you think they are.

950
01:01:47,120 --> 01:01:51,520
Speaker 1: And a smart is a good buddy. And and uh,

951
01:01:52,760 --> 01:01:56,360
Speaker 1: it's just hard to and and actually some of them

952
01:01:56,440 --> 01:02:02,560
Speaker 1: dolls A bunch of it's better, didn't some hunter cheese

953
01:02:04,120 --> 01:02:10,840
Speaker 1: and some hunters I'd know. And you can take damn dogs,

954
01:02:11,600 --> 01:02:14,480
Speaker 1: and you can watch him dogs. It is good and

955
01:02:14,640 --> 01:02:17,360
Speaker 1: you can learn if you can learn anything, you can

956
01:02:17,480 --> 01:02:20,360
Speaker 1: learn shutting my own chelf from just watching a good

957
01:02:20,440 --> 01:02:23,080
Speaker 1: dog work and watch what he doesn't. You can learn.

958
01:02:23,240 --> 01:02:29,560
Speaker 1: You can learn your own chip shouting. Yeah, sure can yeah.

959
01:02:31,320 --> 01:02:34,200
Speaker 1: I think really enjoys that half as much as as

960
01:02:34,280 --> 01:02:37,240
Speaker 1: anything is. Even a bear that uh, that we don't

961
01:02:37,280 --> 01:02:40,800
Speaker 1: necessarily kill or even get jumped. He just wants to

962
01:02:40,840 --> 01:02:43,320
Speaker 1: know where it went. And I never did like to

963
01:02:43,400 --> 01:02:47,080
Speaker 1: not know more than went to always bothered me. But now,

964
01:02:47,320 --> 01:02:50,600
Speaker 1: what what trend would you say, because you guys do

965
01:02:50,800 --> 01:02:53,320
Speaker 1: have a like you know, I'm a bear hunter, but

966
01:02:53,440 --> 01:02:55,800
Speaker 1: I'm not hunting with hounds as much as you guys.

967
01:02:57,160 --> 01:02:59,160
Speaker 1: I don't know where a bear goes. I know where

968
01:02:59,200 --> 01:03:01,400
Speaker 1: I killing, or I know where I get a truck

969
01:03:01,440 --> 01:03:04,400
Speaker 1: camera picture of him. What what would be the trend

970
01:03:04,520 --> 01:03:07,960
Speaker 1: of bear travel patterns in these mountains? And I guess

971
01:03:08,000 --> 01:03:11,400
Speaker 1: it's when they're being pursued with dogs, if they're run

972
01:03:11,520 --> 01:03:13,480
Speaker 1: by dogs, or if they're on their own or whatever,

973
01:03:13,600 --> 01:03:18,440
Speaker 1: unless they're just roaming around right in here, uh eating,

974
01:03:18,680 --> 01:03:22,080
Speaker 1: uh feeding, you know, when they're maybe around and around.

975
01:03:22,360 --> 01:03:24,959
Speaker 1: But if they're trappling in a move and they're gonna

976
01:03:25,040 --> 01:03:28,160
Speaker 1: go on the contour of the mountain. And if you've

977
01:03:28,160 --> 01:03:31,479
Speaker 1: got a GPS and you watch and hip may hip mate,

978
01:03:32,080 --> 01:03:34,160
Speaker 1: it's gonna stay on the contour of that. Man. When

979
01:03:34,200 --> 01:03:38,560
Speaker 1: you say the contour, what do you mean like the topographically,

980
01:03:38,680 --> 01:03:41,600
Speaker 1: like the high point on the ridge? What like your

981
01:03:41,640 --> 01:03:44,479
Speaker 1: seat here? And he'll go and that that made gray

982
01:03:44,560 --> 01:03:47,800
Speaker 1: dead to the top towards the top. But he'll stay

983
01:03:47,880 --> 01:03:51,080
Speaker 1: on that line and go on that line, all right.

984
01:03:51,280 --> 01:03:54,080
Speaker 1: Say they get heat on it and it drops down

985
01:03:54,160 --> 01:03:57,720
Speaker 1: a line or two, and he'll still fill right back

986
01:03:57,760 --> 01:04:02,120
Speaker 1: in that lyne down now and start grading neatline to Ganner.

987
01:04:02,720 --> 01:04:07,200
Speaker 1: And that's everyone I've ever seen. Now I'm trying to understand.

988
01:04:07,280 --> 01:04:12,360
Speaker 1: But what topics they know, Jackie, How the great damn

989
01:04:12,440 --> 01:04:17,040
Speaker 1: contours to hit two damn gaps and just if they're traveling,

990
01:04:17,080 --> 01:04:20,680
Speaker 1: I'm saying, and just right on to damn gaps and

991
01:04:20,800 --> 01:04:23,240
Speaker 1: to Gunner and they'll go on an easy way to walk.

992
01:04:23,320 --> 01:04:25,720
Speaker 1: So they'll they'll hit a gap on the mountain. Yeah,

993
01:04:25,720 --> 01:04:28,400
Speaker 1: they ain't gonna climb straight up and down now right now?

994
01:04:28,480 --> 01:04:30,880
Speaker 1: Will they will? They go down in a deep valley

995
01:04:30,880 --> 01:04:32,760
Speaker 1: and just straight up the other side of the ridge

996
01:04:32,800 --> 01:04:34,920
Speaker 1: and go down up and down. They don't want to.

997
01:04:35,000 --> 01:04:38,120
Speaker 1: They don't want to. They'll head a hollow. So you

998
01:04:38,240 --> 01:04:42,280
Speaker 1: got these big, big fingers coming off these big mountains

999
01:04:42,840 --> 01:04:45,280
Speaker 1: and they'll okay, that's what you mean. Okay, now I understand.

1000
01:04:45,320 --> 01:04:49,400
Speaker 1: They'll they'll run. You'll see them with the contour there

1001
01:04:49,480 --> 01:04:52,600
Speaker 1: you go and hits it around the lamp. When they

1002
01:04:52,680 --> 01:04:55,280
Speaker 1: do that, you know, and some of them great chat

1003
01:04:55,640 --> 01:04:57,520
Speaker 1: and some of them go slap them around to here

1004
01:04:57,840 --> 01:05:00,240
Speaker 1: and they'll go rain plumb around that mountain to day.

1005
01:05:00,320 --> 01:05:03,520
Speaker 1: Do they run circles. What they might. I mean, like

1006
01:05:04,160 --> 01:05:06,920
Speaker 1: if you ran a bear for you'll see more stars

1007
01:05:07,000 --> 01:05:09,080
Speaker 1: running the circle. I tell you, when you'll see him

1008
01:05:09,120 --> 01:05:11,480
Speaker 1: hit a circle too. You'll see him hit a circle

1009
01:05:11,520 --> 01:05:14,560
Speaker 1: when they start about catching them. And even if it's

1010
01:05:14,600 --> 01:05:18,200
Speaker 1: a decent bear, maybe not big enough to just stayed

1011
01:05:18,320 --> 01:05:20,920
Speaker 1: stop and want to fight the dog, but still want

1012
01:05:20,960 --> 01:05:25,280
Speaker 1: to outrun them. If he starts making smaller circles, it

1013
01:05:25,440 --> 01:05:27,720
Speaker 1: ain't gonna be long to he bowled up on the grounder.

1014
01:05:27,800 --> 01:05:30,720
Speaker 1: He's up a bush one tother when you see that,

1015
01:05:31,280 --> 01:05:33,240
Speaker 1: but now they ain't saying a little beating won't do

1016
01:05:33,400 --> 01:05:36,920
Speaker 1: that little beadiing does everything. I mean around and around

1017
01:05:37,040 --> 01:05:39,800
Speaker 1: and over top of their chap and everything. What about

1018
01:05:39,920 --> 01:05:44,919
Speaker 1: where you're jumping bears, Like so you guys are rigging bears,

1019
01:05:45,000 --> 01:05:46,760
Speaker 1: which means the dogs are in the back of the

1020
01:05:46,840 --> 01:05:50,000
Speaker 1: truck hunting while you're driving number one and then number two.

1021
01:05:50,680 --> 01:05:52,880
Speaker 1: You're looking for tracks along the side of the road

1022
01:05:53,240 --> 01:05:57,560
Speaker 1: in leafy Terrent. It's not like anybody's seeing a sure

1023
01:05:57,640 --> 01:05:59,680
Speaker 1: enough bear track in the dirt. I mean, you're looking

1024
01:05:59,760 --> 01:06:02,200
Speaker 1: for scuff marks in the ditch or where these bears

1025
01:06:02,240 --> 01:06:05,160
Speaker 1: are going up banks, crossing the road. Did they cross

1026
01:06:05,200 --> 01:06:07,760
Speaker 1: in the low spots? Do they cross down on the creeks?

1027
01:06:07,840 --> 01:06:10,800
Speaker 1: Do they where? Where did do you find most bear tracks?

1028
01:06:11,680 --> 01:06:15,960
Speaker 1: I'm on te shoping back Dad. That is something that

1029
01:06:16,120 --> 01:06:20,760
Speaker 1: you don't know where you find it, but I can

1030
01:06:20,840 --> 01:06:22,640
Speaker 1: take you right over again and where they worked on

1031
01:06:22,720 --> 01:06:25,760
Speaker 1: the road, and we're it's already a bad crossing money

1032
01:06:26,600 --> 01:06:29,880
Speaker 1: and not state crossing. Before they worked on the road.

1033
01:06:30,160 --> 01:06:32,840
Speaker 1: They made it straight up and down and that buyers

1034
01:06:32,880 --> 01:06:35,560
Speaker 1: still come across chat. Okay, so you're there's a there's

1035
01:06:35,640 --> 01:06:40,000
Speaker 1: highway work over here, and you're saying they instead of

1036
01:06:40,080 --> 01:06:43,000
Speaker 1: going next year and they cut the bank, they excavated

1037
01:06:43,080 --> 01:06:47,120
Speaker 1: the bank in a natural bear travel area and instead

1038
01:06:47,160 --> 01:06:49,120
Speaker 1: of going down here and up the galley up the

1039
01:06:49,240 --> 01:06:53,360
Speaker 1: holler would be realized they still climbing slide off that bank,

1040
01:06:53,920 --> 01:07:01,520
Speaker 1: straight up and down. Yeah. Yeah, So that's so it

1041
01:07:01,560 --> 01:07:04,360
Speaker 1: would be easy for him to go down two hundred yards.

1042
01:07:05,800 --> 01:07:07,720
Speaker 1: Sometimes you won't even have to go that. They won't

1043
01:07:07,720 --> 01:07:10,920
Speaker 1: have to go fit the yards or that one place

1044
01:07:11,000 --> 01:07:14,040
Speaker 1: would be. Now, what's unique about that crossing? The what's

1045
01:07:14,080 --> 01:07:19,720
Speaker 1: making them want to go there? Well, probably an acrone too.

1046
01:07:20,320 --> 01:07:22,760
Speaker 1: It's just a crossing between coming out of Goods and

1047
01:07:22,800 --> 01:07:27,480
Speaker 1: the mountains and going towards John's Creek, Law Fork in

1048
01:07:27,600 --> 01:07:31,280
Speaker 1: that country, back and forth and and and it's just

1049
01:07:32,720 --> 01:07:37,440
Speaker 1: crossing firm to work to unfeet and stuff. Do you

1050
01:07:37,720 --> 01:07:39,959
Speaker 1: so when you're hunting these places around here that y'all

1051
01:07:40,040 --> 01:07:43,160
Speaker 1: hunt every year, I mean, are you striking bears in

1052
01:07:43,240 --> 01:07:47,439
Speaker 1: the same place or am I hearing general area? General area?

1053
01:07:47,480 --> 01:07:51,680
Speaker 1: But like in a half mile stretch of road, Yeah,

1054
01:07:51,920 --> 01:07:54,080
Speaker 1: they could be. But as a whole, if we go

1055
01:07:54,240 --> 01:07:58,120
Speaker 1: to the good and you run a buyer it's wanting

1056
01:07:58,160 --> 01:08:01,560
Speaker 1: to go to refuge hits below the road nine chances

1057
01:08:01,600 --> 01:08:03,760
Speaker 1: out of Tea and HiT's gonna try locals Storn Branch.

1058
01:08:04,360 --> 01:08:07,480
Speaker 1: I mean, that's just and I ain't saying the same

1059
01:08:07,560 --> 01:08:11,760
Speaker 1: path every time, but that general area, yeah, you know,

1060
01:08:12,920 --> 01:08:16,960
Speaker 1: san one couldn't cross anymore the other. That's the area

1061
01:08:16,960 --> 01:08:20,040
Speaker 1: it HiT's going to shoot for. And then you go

1062
01:08:20,200 --> 01:08:21,560
Speaker 1: up here on the Browns a cap road, then you

1063
01:08:21,600 --> 01:08:23,559
Speaker 1: could bring one through there on one o my angles,

1064
01:08:24,040 --> 01:08:27,360
Speaker 1: and HiT's a coming towards Locust Thorn. And if you

1065
01:08:27,439 --> 01:08:29,240
Speaker 1: ain't got that road line, it's hard to line it

1066
01:08:29,360 --> 01:08:31,600
Speaker 1: up good enough. Couse you go around a bend this

1067
01:08:31,800 --> 01:08:35,200
Speaker 1: way and then damn through here. But now they're gonna

1068
01:08:35,280 --> 01:08:37,400
Speaker 1: come right through there and grade right through bah bah

1069
01:08:37,400 --> 01:08:40,080
Speaker 1: bab peels and go to the refuge to that way,

1070
01:08:40,600 --> 01:08:43,639
Speaker 1: and and they're hard to block up. Are anything hard

1071
01:08:43,680 --> 01:08:48,519
Speaker 1: to blood and you it's hard to actually tell the truth.

1072
01:08:49,320 --> 01:08:51,600
Speaker 1: We do a decent job, but we've been doing it

1073
01:08:51,720 --> 01:08:55,280
Speaker 1: for years of power. Uh say it's a slick rock

1074
01:08:55,360 --> 01:08:58,040
Speaker 1: where they want to cross, Well, we'll take the middle

1075
01:08:58,160 --> 01:09:01,679
Speaker 1: vehicle and say it stays right even with the dogs.

1076
01:09:02,320 --> 01:09:05,120
Speaker 1: And then the half of the vehicles be in front

1077
01:09:05,160 --> 01:09:07,920
Speaker 1: of you up to gannor have to vehicles behind you,

1078
01:09:09,000 --> 01:09:13,439
Speaker 1: and and and and you pretty well turn a lot

1079
01:09:13,520 --> 01:09:15,920
Speaker 1: of byre that way. Let me, let me stop. You're

1080
01:09:16,000 --> 01:09:19,200
Speaker 1: right there because people wouldn't know unless they had been there.

1081
01:09:19,479 --> 01:09:23,479
Speaker 1: So these dogs are explaining, Josh, why why are you're

1082
01:09:23,520 --> 01:09:25,840
Speaker 1: trying to turn it right? I mean, just what that means.

1083
01:09:26,000 --> 01:09:27,760
Speaker 1: People might not even know what it means to turn

1084
01:09:27,840 --> 01:09:30,160
Speaker 1: a bear race or why you would want to turn it. Yeah,

1085
01:09:30,200 --> 01:09:32,720
Speaker 1: So so we're chasing a bear and excuse me, in

1086
01:09:32,760 --> 01:09:34,920
Speaker 1: the country that that we're allowed to be hunting in.

1087
01:09:35,800 --> 01:09:38,400
Speaker 1: So it's it's open season there and the bear we

1088
01:09:38,520 --> 01:09:41,000
Speaker 1: were talking a few minutes ago. They're smart. They know

1089
01:09:41,160 --> 01:09:43,720
Speaker 1: where big country is and where that big country is

1090
01:09:43,760 --> 01:09:47,720
Speaker 1: at is it's off limits. Were not allowed to far Sanctuary,

1091
01:09:48,120 --> 01:09:51,160
Speaker 1: which is an area that's been designated it's national forest,

1092
01:09:51,240 --> 01:09:54,240
Speaker 1: but you can't hunt there. Yeah. Yeah, And so the

1093
01:09:54,280 --> 01:09:57,720
Speaker 1: bear as the dogs get it up and running. It's

1094
01:09:57,800 --> 01:10:00,519
Speaker 1: goal is to try to survive and to get away

1095
01:10:00,560 --> 01:10:03,920
Speaker 1: from it, and it just goes. It knows where if

1096
01:10:03,960 --> 01:10:08,320
Speaker 1: you can get there, it's safe. It's bred into Yeah,

1097
01:10:08,520 --> 01:10:11,519
Speaker 1: just like you've reached him into these don't here really

1098
01:10:11,760 --> 01:10:14,880
Speaker 1: to get back into that. Yeah, So that's where they're

1099
01:10:14,880 --> 01:10:18,120
Speaker 1: going ahead every time. And Roy's talking about there with

1100
01:10:18,479 --> 01:10:22,400
Speaker 1: Locust Thorn or Brown's Gap or some of Bob Field,

1101
01:10:22,479 --> 01:10:24,760
Speaker 1: some of those areas, that's the low points in the

1102
01:10:24,880 --> 01:10:26,920
Speaker 1: contours of the land, and that's where they're shooting for.

1103
01:10:27,120 --> 01:10:29,840
Speaker 1: That's the easiest way, the path of least resistance, and

1104
01:10:29,960 --> 01:10:31,920
Speaker 1: that's you know where we take. Our job is to

1105
01:10:32,800 --> 01:10:34,720
Speaker 1: cut them off and hit them off. And then so

1106
01:10:35,040 --> 01:10:38,120
Speaker 1: if you hear a bear race coming up the hollow

1107
01:10:38,320 --> 01:10:40,519
Speaker 1: about to cross the road, get into the bear sanction

1108
01:10:41,360 --> 01:10:43,240
Speaker 1: if you, Yeah, if you if you got your truck

1109
01:10:43,280 --> 01:10:44,960
Speaker 1: there and you've got two or three guys standing on

1110
01:10:45,040 --> 01:10:48,519
Speaker 1: the road. That bear will it'll sense that smell it

1111
01:10:48,720 --> 01:10:52,280
Speaker 1: smell you here, you hear you anything, and turn That

1112
01:10:52,320 --> 01:10:55,439
Speaker 1: ain't the last time. He'll turn it finally chase right

1113
01:10:55,520 --> 01:10:57,280
Speaker 1: down to you or not down youn, or he'll be

1114
01:10:57,439 --> 01:11:01,360
Speaker 1: right back to the You remember when I chased that bear.

1115
01:11:02,120 --> 01:11:05,320
Speaker 1: That bear, that bear was coming up the hall and

1116
01:11:05,400 --> 01:11:07,439
Speaker 1: I just happened to be the only guy down there,

1117
01:11:08,040 --> 01:11:10,880
Speaker 1: and and I was running and I would hear the

1118
01:11:10,960 --> 01:11:13,880
Speaker 1: bear running in the woods and I'd peek over the

1119
01:11:14,120 --> 01:11:16,960
Speaker 1: edge and it would see me and it would jump

1120
01:11:17,040 --> 01:11:20,320
Speaker 1: off down and run, and I just run with it

1121
01:11:20,840 --> 01:11:22,600
Speaker 1: and it would be trying to come back up to

1122
01:11:22,680 --> 01:11:24,640
Speaker 1: cross the road again. You know, I can only do

1123
01:11:24,760 --> 01:11:27,120
Speaker 1: that for so long before it finally when when they

1124
01:11:27,160 --> 01:11:31,400
Speaker 1: got turned it down because alrel turned that dollar toolish

1125
01:11:31,400 --> 01:11:34,000
Speaker 1: over where it come on nice end and down Brown's

1126
01:11:34,040 --> 01:11:39,320
Speaker 1: creak it went. So you finally got turned. But we

1127
01:11:39,439 --> 01:11:41,000
Speaker 1: as a running out through darn and he'd sell you

1128
01:11:41,200 --> 01:11:45,600
Speaker 1: hear it, hear something. I couldn't hear the nehing, and

1129
01:11:45,680 --> 01:11:47,640
Speaker 1: he said I hear didn't, I thought, Tom Ample, He

1130
01:11:47,800 --> 01:11:53,200
Speaker 1: just thanks you you're hearing check. I couldn't stay up

1131
01:11:53,240 --> 01:11:55,439
Speaker 1: with you I couldn't stay up with him out too.

1132
01:11:55,479 --> 01:11:59,960
Speaker 1: Durn directly holler, I see the Paris when they get

1133
01:12:00,000 --> 01:12:02,479
Speaker 1: their mind made up that that's all it's on their moat.

1134
01:12:02,720 --> 01:12:06,000
Speaker 1: So basically, you guys have kind of an area that

1135
01:12:06,080 --> 01:12:09,000
Speaker 1: you're hunting and you're trying to if you can't kill

1136
01:12:09,120 --> 01:12:11,880
Speaker 1: the bear, uh, you know, if it's daring Kelsey's and

1137
01:12:11,920 --> 01:12:14,280
Speaker 1: obviously you're trying to turn this bear and keep it

1138
01:12:14,360 --> 01:12:17,320
Speaker 1: in this big area that you're hunting, and you need

1139
01:12:17,800 --> 01:12:20,360
Speaker 1: big areas to run these bears. I mean we're not

1140
01:12:20,520 --> 01:12:24,400
Speaker 1: talking about You wouldn't believe how much ground of bire

1141
01:12:24,479 --> 01:12:27,240
Speaker 1: can cover. You wouldn't believe it. I mean they can

1142
01:12:27,320 --> 01:12:30,680
Speaker 1: cover ground, buddy, Yeah, and it's hard to believe how

1143
01:12:30,800 --> 01:12:34,360
Speaker 1: much ground I don't can cover now, it's hard to

1144
01:12:34,439 --> 01:12:38,320
Speaker 1: believe that stuff Batty Well to wherever we go hunting,

1145
01:12:38,439 --> 01:12:41,479
Speaker 1: there's in areas you know that the Embers try to

1146
01:12:41,520 --> 01:12:44,200
Speaker 1: get into. Even we go to Canna, don't want them in.

1147
01:12:44,800 --> 01:12:46,680
Speaker 1: I mean there's a park that are close to them

1148
01:12:46,760 --> 01:12:49,320
Speaker 1: where we hunt it and they'll there's a road just

1149
01:12:49,479 --> 01:12:51,680
Speaker 1: locking the gulf. We try to keep them cut off,

1150
01:12:51,800 --> 01:12:53,320
Speaker 1: you know, they try to get back on that part.

1151
01:12:53,439 --> 01:12:56,559
Speaker 1: But you know, everywhere you go, then buyers sends them

1152
01:12:56,600 --> 01:12:58,960
Speaker 1: areas you know, and they try to get back on them.

1153
01:12:59,360 --> 01:13:02,640
Speaker 1: Down on coast, it's the river, it's the swamps, you know,

1154
01:13:02,680 --> 01:13:05,960
Speaker 1: it's it's the roughest area that they possibly know is around.

1155
01:13:06,040 --> 01:13:07,799
Speaker 1: That's where they want to go. That's where they retreat.

1156
01:13:08,560 --> 01:13:12,960
Speaker 1: And it's a retreat at that point you want these things, Yeah,

1157
01:13:13,280 --> 01:13:16,120
Speaker 1: it's uh and and that's the that's the game side

1158
01:13:16,160 --> 01:13:18,479
Speaker 1: of it, you know, to try to outsmart them. That's

1159
01:13:18,520 --> 01:13:22,240
Speaker 1: where these guys, the Roys and the Brits and the

1160
01:13:22,280 --> 01:13:24,800
Speaker 1: old timers that know the way the bears running where

1161
01:13:24,800 --> 01:13:27,400
Speaker 1: their heading to have educated us and taught us on

1162
01:13:27,479 --> 01:13:30,000
Speaker 1: how to do that. And that's that's a good question

1163
01:13:30,080 --> 01:13:32,360
Speaker 1: that I have for you, is what does it take.

1164
01:13:33,040 --> 01:13:36,280
Speaker 1: I wouldn't have understood this until I saw it in action,

1165
01:13:36,400 --> 01:13:40,000
Speaker 1: But you would think that if you had this great

1166
01:13:40,040 --> 01:13:43,280
Speaker 1: pack of dogs, you just find a bar, turnabloes, so

1167
01:13:43,400 --> 01:13:46,200
Speaker 1: dogs run the bear tree it and you go kill

1168
01:13:46,240 --> 01:13:49,559
Speaker 1: the bear. Now you nothing like that. Most of the time,

1169
01:13:50,160 --> 01:13:53,920
Speaker 1: it sounds easy. You could do that if you honey

1170
01:13:54,000 --> 01:13:58,240
Speaker 1: inner area, you had no limitations. Okay, that's a good

1171
01:13:58,280 --> 01:14:01,000
Speaker 1: way to say it. So it wouldn't be. You wouldn't

1172
01:14:01,040 --> 01:14:04,560
Speaker 1: have to be if you if you didn't have a

1173
01:14:05,120 --> 01:14:08,200
Speaker 1: And there's always some reason why you can't go too

1174
01:14:08,280 --> 01:14:10,960
Speaker 1: far that way. Well, or maybe it's a highway. If

1175
01:14:11,000 --> 01:14:14,000
Speaker 1: you let them get across the road fire, you're looking

1176
01:14:14,040 --> 01:14:17,080
Speaker 1: at my porties, you next stop, and they don't live

1177
01:14:17,200 --> 01:14:19,600
Speaker 1: on that road. They ain't gonna make it. If they

1178
01:14:19,680 --> 01:14:23,880
Speaker 1: come up the byro, ain't gonna make it. And so

1179
01:14:24,479 --> 01:14:27,400
Speaker 1: so that's where you're talking about. Uh, you know what

1180
01:14:27,479 --> 01:14:29,679
Speaker 1: you were talking about. The team that the Laurel Mountain

1181
01:14:29,720 --> 01:14:33,360
Speaker 1: bear hunters are. Uh, you know, these guys have been

1182
01:14:33,439 --> 01:14:36,920
Speaker 1: hunting these mountains for sixty years. But then you guys

1183
01:14:37,320 --> 01:14:41,160
Speaker 1: are I've ridden with Josh before going on a bear

1184
01:14:41,320 --> 01:14:46,840
Speaker 1: race and uh make your knuckles turn white. Uh. But

1185
01:14:47,560 --> 01:14:50,840
Speaker 1: so you're getting to these crossings, you're you're you're putting

1186
01:14:50,880 --> 01:14:53,680
Speaker 1: new dogs in what they call packing dogs. So if

1187
01:14:53,680 --> 01:14:56,599
Speaker 1: there's a race that's just across the road, or if

1188
01:14:56,800 --> 01:14:59,240
Speaker 1: if you can hear a race down below, you in,

1189
01:14:59,600 --> 01:15:02,479
Speaker 1: and if you turn out seven or eight dogs or

1190
01:15:02,600 --> 01:15:06,040
Speaker 1: five dogs or however many, not all those dogs are

1191
01:15:06,080 --> 01:15:08,680
Speaker 1: gonna be on that bear. Some of the dogs are

1192
01:15:08,720 --> 01:15:13,439
Speaker 1: gonna have got turned around falling out and so maybe

1193
01:15:13,479 --> 01:15:16,800
Speaker 1: there's only two dogs on that bear and this stuff.

1194
01:15:16,840 --> 01:15:19,360
Speaker 1: People don't understand. You actually don't have a big problem

1195
01:15:19,439 --> 01:15:22,840
Speaker 1: of what your shaving. Okay, okay, uh, we don't actually

1196
01:15:22,920 --> 01:15:25,800
Speaker 1: have that problem. We actually tell you the truth now.

1197
01:15:25,800 --> 01:15:29,320
Speaker 1: Ain't saying something can't happen. But it's a hole. And

1198
01:15:29,439 --> 01:15:31,240
Speaker 1: you take a pack of them dogs down are the

1199
01:15:31,280 --> 01:15:34,600
Speaker 1: good ones. You turn them loosh on the bar and

1200
01:15:34,840 --> 01:15:37,559
Speaker 1: they treat it. They bad on the ground. And when

1201
01:15:37,600 --> 01:15:40,920
Speaker 1: you kill that bar, unless something's hurt, you're gonna load

1202
01:15:41,000 --> 01:15:42,760
Speaker 1: every one am dogs up and be ready to come

1203
01:15:42,840 --> 01:15:45,439
Speaker 1: to the house. You don't have to hunt or look

1204
01:15:45,720 --> 01:15:50,800
Speaker 1: or nothing else. Yeah that's young, and some of don't

1205
01:15:50,800 --> 01:15:53,760
Speaker 1: plumb train, but damn goodness, down there, you don't have

1206
01:15:53,880 --> 01:15:57,960
Speaker 1: to hunt them dogs. They'll beat them. And that's come

1207
01:15:58,040 --> 01:16:00,960
Speaker 1: with a lot of you know, to your point earlier

1208
01:16:00,960 --> 01:16:03,160
Speaker 1: about the hunters helping the dogs and the dogs helping

1209
01:16:03,160 --> 01:16:05,679
Speaker 1: the hunters, us putting them in good positions and getting

1210
01:16:05,720 --> 01:16:07,160
Speaker 1: them in on the bar of the right way, And

1211
01:16:07,880 --> 01:16:11,599
Speaker 1: to your point, a lot can go wrong between turning

1212
01:16:11,680 --> 01:16:14,040
Speaker 1: loose on it, jumping and getting there's a lot in

1213
01:16:14,120 --> 01:16:17,600
Speaker 1: packing dolls, you know, I mean if you're done up here,

1214
01:16:17,640 --> 01:16:20,160
Speaker 1: and the dogs just going fifteen twenty minutes though Gunner,

1215
01:16:20,479 --> 01:16:23,200
Speaker 1: and then they'll just pack down them. We don't pack

1216
01:16:23,240 --> 01:16:27,680
Speaker 1: our dogs like you pack them dogs down there. You

1217
01:16:27,840 --> 01:16:30,360
Speaker 1: better not pack them at per behind them dogs chat

1218
01:16:30,400 --> 01:16:35,200
Speaker 1: them out. I mean, they'll just keep it getting further

1219
01:16:35,320 --> 01:16:38,639
Speaker 1: behind these back here to pack or keep it getting

1220
01:16:38,680 --> 01:16:41,479
Speaker 1: further behind each up here. You better get them up

1221
01:16:41,520 --> 01:16:44,680
Speaker 1: before the right Yeah. Yeah, so you're saying if the

1222
01:16:44,760 --> 01:16:47,680
Speaker 1: dogs because on these gps you can tell where the

1223
01:16:47,720 --> 01:16:51,080
Speaker 1: dogs cross the road, and so we don't put them.

1224
01:16:51,120 --> 01:16:53,559
Speaker 1: All stuff of going and putting dogs behind dogs, it's

1225
01:16:53,600 --> 01:16:57,599
Speaker 1: been gone through Gunner while we don't do no that stuff. Yeah,

1226
01:16:58,200 --> 01:17:01,200
Speaker 1: you're just your friend. It's just a worn your dog

1227
01:17:01,280 --> 01:17:06,880
Speaker 1: down when you do. Yeah. Well that I think that

1228
01:17:07,040 --> 01:17:09,600
Speaker 1: puts a lot of context around what it means to

1229
01:17:09,680 --> 01:17:13,479
Speaker 1: be uh an effective hunter for the area that you're at.

1230
01:17:13,840 --> 01:17:17,160
Speaker 1: You you you couldn't like what if you think about

1231
01:17:17,200 --> 01:17:20,360
Speaker 1: going blind into this area and having never hunted it.

1232
01:17:20,800 --> 01:17:22,760
Speaker 1: I mean that would be you, guys. I mean you

1233
01:17:23,160 --> 01:17:25,760
Speaker 1: learned where these bears run and how to do things,

1234
01:17:26,160 --> 01:17:28,280
Speaker 1: and you do that everywhere you go. I mean, you

1235
01:17:28,320 --> 01:17:31,559
Speaker 1: guys hunt on the coast of North Carolina. You're hunting Canada,

1236
01:17:32,200 --> 01:17:40,760
Speaker 1: your hunt Wisconsin, I'll tell you haunt. We started with

1237
01:17:40,920 --> 01:17:45,400
Speaker 1: no radios. Then we got down two that's you telling

1238
01:17:45,400 --> 01:17:48,760
Speaker 1: me about in a vehicle. Then we got one weight

1239
01:17:48,840 --> 01:17:52,880
Speaker 1: about toy over thirteen pound you put around her neck

1240
01:17:53,000 --> 01:17:55,680
Speaker 1: and it was like a some kind of weight you

1241
01:17:55,760 --> 01:18:01,479
Speaker 1: had on. But anyway, you could talk on them and

1242
01:18:01,800 --> 01:18:04,519
Speaker 1: and stuff. And then we kept coming with a little

1243
01:18:04,560 --> 01:18:07,800
Speaker 1: bit better radios and a little bit better and then

1244
01:18:07,920 --> 01:18:11,720
Speaker 1: when they got into the transistor radios, they lightened up

1245
01:18:11,760 --> 01:18:14,760
Speaker 1: a big time boy, and you can handle them. Then

1246
01:18:14,840 --> 01:18:17,800
Speaker 1: when they come we got up to these radios we used,

1247
01:18:17,880 --> 01:18:22,439
Speaker 1: now it was just a completely different different thing, you know.

1248
01:18:23,280 --> 01:18:28,679
Speaker 1: Uh and uh. Then you go back to the tracking collars.

1249
01:18:29,160 --> 01:18:32,120
Speaker 1: Before we had tracking collars and you had to follow

1250
01:18:32,200 --> 01:18:36,320
Speaker 1: the dogs. Then you come up with tracking callers, which

1251
01:18:36,400 --> 01:18:39,600
Speaker 1: here we thought was a real deal, and it was.

1252
01:18:40,600 --> 01:18:45,080
Speaker 1: And then they come up with these GPS collars, and

1253
01:18:45,240 --> 01:18:50,920
Speaker 1: then they was sure enough the real deal. And then

1254
01:18:50,960 --> 01:18:55,120
Speaker 1: they come up with better GPS collars and they just

1255
01:18:55,280 --> 01:19:02,120
Speaker 1: got better and better. But but the time you get

1256
01:19:02,240 --> 01:19:05,519
Speaker 1: up here, and and if it wasn't for these boys

1257
01:19:05,640 --> 01:19:08,280
Speaker 1: right here being able to come up here, and get

1258
01:19:08,360 --> 01:19:11,760
Speaker 1: teach collars and and all this and put it on

1259
01:19:11,880 --> 01:19:16,760
Speaker 1: them dogs and everything. There wouldn't be a lot of

1260
01:19:16,800 --> 01:19:20,840
Speaker 1: hunting going on here, probably for me and and uh

1261
01:19:22,000 --> 01:19:24,840
Speaker 1: so there's a lot involved in it. And we're used

1262
01:19:24,880 --> 01:19:29,320
Speaker 1: to you get up and you get you dogs and

1263
01:19:29,400 --> 01:19:31,280
Speaker 1: you go a hunt and you didn't have to get nothing,

1264
01:19:32,080 --> 01:19:36,760
Speaker 1: just get your dog and go hunting. And now you

1265
01:19:36,880 --> 01:19:40,559
Speaker 1: need about a separate vehicle, a whole lot of quipment

1266
01:19:43,920 --> 01:19:47,400
Speaker 1: to get ready to go. And don't real I can't

1267
01:19:47,439 --> 01:19:49,400
Speaker 1: imagine trying to get that many dogs ready. I know

1268
01:19:49,479 --> 01:19:51,280
Speaker 1: how long it takes me to get my two dogs

1269
01:19:51,320 --> 01:19:55,720
Speaker 1: ready when we go coon nuting. It's a job. Now,

1270
01:19:56,200 --> 01:20:00,800
Speaker 1: what's that, miss Brenda? Yeah? How many dogs have you got?

1271
01:20:01,320 --> 01:20:04,960
Speaker 1: Now this is where you gotta tell the truth. Well,

1272
01:20:05,080 --> 01:20:10,920
Speaker 1: I just estimated around thirty dogs' estimated around dad. Yeah,

1273
01:20:11,240 --> 01:20:13,360
Speaker 1: but if you ain't got no dogs, you can't hunt.

1274
01:20:14,479 --> 01:20:17,400
Speaker 1: You gotta have dogs to hunt. Let's tell more about

1275
01:20:17,439 --> 01:20:22,640
Speaker 1: those dogs. Yeah what now? Charles Clay was wanting to

1276
01:20:22,680 --> 01:20:25,160
Speaker 1: know more about those dogs, some of the some of

1277
01:20:25,240 --> 01:20:26,880
Speaker 1: the old ones and then some of the ones now

1278
01:20:27,000 --> 01:20:30,599
Speaker 1: that's that's come up through the years. Even his first

1279
01:20:30,640 --> 01:20:34,880
Speaker 1: back Clay as I can remember we've had trail dogs.

1280
01:20:36,120 --> 01:20:39,280
Speaker 1: Daddy had Rammler, which was a good trail dog. Right,

1281
01:20:39,360 --> 01:20:41,880
Speaker 1: that was pretty he'd tell you the same thing, what's

1282
01:20:41,920 --> 01:20:46,599
Speaker 1: a good That was years ago? And then Uh, Daddy

1283
01:20:46,680 --> 01:20:49,840
Speaker 1: had John which was a good trail dog. Britt had

1284
01:20:50,520 --> 01:20:54,599
Speaker 1: Uh And I mean that trail dog is your start

1285
01:20:54,680 --> 01:20:57,360
Speaker 1: dog that has a real good cold nose. That's right.

1286
01:20:58,080 --> 01:21:03,519
Speaker 1: So actually we've had good trail dogs from what we

1287
01:21:03,560 --> 01:21:07,320
Speaker 1: found a bar track or not. And I've seen Lewis Hanner,

1288
01:21:07,400 --> 01:21:10,479
Speaker 1: which his trail dog was a blue Tick, and he'd

1289
01:21:10,520 --> 01:21:14,840
Speaker 1: take a check line which is eighteen ft long. You know,

1290
01:21:15,120 --> 01:21:17,599
Speaker 1: this one strip of that check line, not the one

1291
01:21:17,640 --> 01:21:20,800
Speaker 1: it comes off of it, but a check line, you

1292
01:21:20,840 --> 01:21:24,080
Speaker 1: know what I'm talking about. He put that on that

1293
01:21:24,160 --> 01:21:27,720
Speaker 1: old blue tick, and that sucker never quit pulling. I'm

1294
01:21:27,800 --> 01:21:32,280
Speaker 1: talking about stringing a pulling. And he would go off

1295
01:21:32,360 --> 01:21:36,160
Speaker 1: in them clears, through them laurels, get out on his

1296
01:21:36,280 --> 01:21:39,040
Speaker 1: hands and knees, and that dog will pulling ever strinted

1297
01:21:39,200 --> 01:21:42,519
Speaker 1: head on him. And he had let that line go

1298
01:21:43,520 --> 01:21:45,840
Speaker 1: until he'd go out to the end of that check line.

1299
01:21:46,479 --> 01:21:49,000
Speaker 1: Then he crawled through them laurels and stuff just for

1300
01:21:49,160 --> 01:21:51,560
Speaker 1: walk right up at check line till you get to

1301
01:21:51,680 --> 01:21:54,120
Speaker 1: that old dog, and he'd let him go. Get you

1302
01:21:54,200 --> 01:21:56,439
Speaker 1: do the all day longe. He'd get off in under there,

1303
01:21:56,479 --> 01:21:59,120
Speaker 1: and I'd say, bridge, seen him do that, And he

1304
01:21:59,240 --> 01:22:01,280
Speaker 1: get off under the earn't lead that shucker and hunt

1305
01:22:01,320 --> 01:22:03,640
Speaker 1: for our track all day long, which we find some

1306
01:22:03,840 --> 01:22:07,000
Speaker 1: sometimes too. But now he done a lot of leading

1307
01:22:07,080 --> 01:22:10,840
Speaker 1: for a He got that measured ruth with him. And

1308
01:22:11,000 --> 01:22:13,760
Speaker 1: I mean just through decrection, crannies and stuff and go

1309
01:22:13,920 --> 01:22:17,400
Speaker 1: right to you. And they're following that old dial. So

1310
01:22:17,600 --> 01:22:20,320
Speaker 1: so Roy told you about the walker. Has he ever

1311
01:22:20,360 --> 01:22:26,000
Speaker 1: told you about our blue tick? Secret? Secret? Secret? Tell

1312
01:22:26,080 --> 01:22:29,960
Speaker 1: us about secret? So I'll start the part of and

1313
01:22:30,200 --> 01:22:33,360
Speaker 1: Roy can take it over. So I taught school for

1314
01:22:33,479 --> 01:22:36,479
Speaker 1: a few years, and and I got to start going

1315
01:22:36,560 --> 01:22:38,840
Speaker 1: with Roy. In the summertime, Me and Roy and what

1316
01:22:39,080 --> 01:22:42,599
Speaker 1: diylon Ham and Kevin Profit, we'd go hunt with Doug

1317
01:22:42,640 --> 01:22:46,839
Speaker 1: Woods up in Junior Woods up in Michigan. And Junior

1318
01:22:46,880 --> 01:22:49,639
Speaker 1: had these blue ticks that he always wanted to run

1319
01:22:49,680 --> 01:22:53,040
Speaker 1: against Roy's plots. And Georgie Junior talk up those blue

1320
01:22:53,120 --> 01:22:55,719
Speaker 1: ticks and talk them up, and we'll run them against

1321
01:22:55,720 --> 01:22:57,639
Speaker 1: your plots. And we'd come up here and we'd we'd

1322
01:22:57,880 --> 01:22:59,920
Speaker 1: have our dogs in the summertime, not in shape, and

1323
01:23:00,479 --> 01:23:03,160
Speaker 1: we catch buyers, and Junior wouldn't be catching bars. I

1324
01:23:03,200 --> 01:23:04,960
Speaker 1: mean maybe he'd catch a bar two, and then we

1325
01:23:05,479 --> 01:23:09,680
Speaker 1: keep catching bars. And they eventually lo and behold of

1326
01:23:09,760 --> 01:23:12,640
Speaker 1: a litter of pups came along and Junior wanted us

1327
01:23:12,680 --> 01:23:14,960
Speaker 1: to have one of them, so we ended up with one.

1328
01:23:15,040 --> 01:23:17,599
Speaker 1: And so roy I said, we're really gonna take one

1329
01:23:17,640 --> 01:23:20,759
Speaker 1: of these blue ticks home because all we knew was plots,

1330
01:23:21,080 --> 01:23:23,880
Speaker 1: you know. And uh, so we stashed her in the

1331
01:23:23,960 --> 01:23:27,880
Speaker 1: back hole of the dog box and called her Roy's

1332
01:23:27,920 --> 01:23:32,920
Speaker 1: law amountain secret. Remember when they come home they brought

1333
01:23:32,960 --> 01:23:36,080
Speaker 1: her home. I really, what's this? He said? He said,

1334
01:23:36,160 --> 01:23:42,280
Speaker 1: this is my secret. I had that law amountain plots

1335
01:23:42,360 --> 01:23:45,760
Speaker 1: on the back of the R L strait and uh

1336
01:23:47,000 --> 01:23:51,360
Speaker 1: and him and Jared wrote in the dust back there

1337
01:23:51,479 --> 01:23:58,120
Speaker 1: and blue ticks home. But look here we come home now, Jamie.

1338
01:23:58,120 --> 01:24:03,599
Speaker 1: It never pud with a dollar. No, no, my son, well,

1339
01:24:04,200 --> 01:24:09,080
Speaker 1: for some reason he liked that blue teg Well, I

1340
01:24:09,160 --> 01:24:12,040
Speaker 1: had it down here at two Bourne, and he started

1341
01:24:12,120 --> 01:24:14,400
Speaker 1: letting it come in the house. And Hudson was Thirling

1342
01:24:14,520 --> 01:24:17,120
Speaker 1: was little, and he'd let it come in the house

1343
01:24:17,200 --> 01:24:19,439
Speaker 1: and get on the couch. He wouldn't let them others

1344
01:24:20,600 --> 01:24:23,360
Speaker 1: have a light of day. Then plots down there. But

1345
01:24:23,479 --> 01:24:27,720
Speaker 1: now he liked that little blue teeg and and and

1346
01:24:27,800 --> 01:24:31,439
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say she's probably for one month old, and

1347
01:24:31,560 --> 01:24:34,000
Speaker 1: she's pretty nervy. But she thought she was a plot

1348
01:24:34,160 --> 01:24:39,240
Speaker 1: after so long time. But she go and plots. I'm

1349
01:24:39,360 --> 01:24:41,439
Speaker 1: i'm she go work to them dogs and they act

1350
01:24:41,439 --> 01:24:44,920
Speaker 1: like a killer, but she wouldn't give up. She just

1351
01:24:45,000 --> 01:24:47,519
Speaker 1: turned her head sideways and lay down on her shoulder.

1352
01:24:47,960 --> 01:24:51,160
Speaker 1: He's right up to him and blick them and they'd

1353
01:24:51,240 --> 01:24:53,719
Speaker 1: lick her. And so she just could go to every

1354
01:24:53,760 --> 01:24:56,400
Speaker 1: one hum and do for day? She want me to uh.

1355
01:24:56,479 --> 01:25:00,160
Speaker 1: And they didn't pay no attention to it. But they

1356
01:25:00,240 --> 01:25:03,320
Speaker 1: had this little horse that they had waned up iron.

1357
01:25:04,680 --> 01:25:08,320
Speaker 1: Actually it was getting close to year old when the minuteers,

1358
01:25:08,840 --> 01:25:10,040
Speaker 1: and they brought it down here and put it in

1359
01:25:10,120 --> 01:25:13,400
Speaker 1: the stable, and Jamie was learning it the lead. Well,

1360
01:25:14,200 --> 01:25:17,640
Speaker 1: she was about for my child. So he got that

1361
01:25:17,760 --> 01:25:23,519
Speaker 1: little horse out and it wouldn't go. It wouldn't like leaked.

1362
01:25:24,200 --> 01:25:26,920
Speaker 1: So he put that rope around it your rein, and

1363
01:25:27,040 --> 01:25:31,280
Speaker 1: he pulled it. He put on it so hard that

1364
01:25:31,479 --> 01:25:34,080
Speaker 1: when it went to go, instead of stepping, hit a

1365
01:25:34,240 --> 01:25:36,120
Speaker 1: jump and lut your feet down the ground like that

1366
01:25:36,280 --> 01:25:38,920
Speaker 1: right there. Well, when it done that the first time

1367
01:25:39,040 --> 01:25:42,360
Speaker 1: she went to raising came buddy barking. At the second

1368
01:25:42,400 --> 01:25:44,280
Speaker 1: time he had done that lunch and went to the ground.

1369
01:25:44,560 --> 01:25:46,080
Speaker 1: She had it by the end of the nose. But

1370
01:25:47,000 --> 01:25:51,479
Speaker 1: I got a hold of well then it went. I

1371
01:25:51,600 --> 01:25:56,800
Speaker 1: went to Canada with her. She's probably uh, let's see,

1372
01:25:58,640 --> 01:26:00,560
Speaker 1: that would have been in chipped him. She couldn't have

1373
01:26:00,560 --> 01:26:04,880
Speaker 1: been my choe. She couldn't been muchoe. But she wanted

1374
01:26:04,960 --> 01:26:08,519
Speaker 1: to hold her everything she's saying. She was nervy, and

1375
01:26:08,640 --> 01:26:13,080
Speaker 1: she got hurt a whole lot. But now she finally

1376
01:26:14,160 --> 01:26:19,000
Speaker 1: got scared enough on a buyer. Until I've seen her

1377
01:26:21,120 --> 01:26:24,160
Speaker 1: uh on a main buyer that wanted to run her.

1378
01:26:24,200 --> 01:26:28,240
Speaker 1: I've seen her hush barking, bir sale, but stand there

1379
01:26:28,840 --> 01:26:31,840
Speaker 1: and just stand there and look at the buyer. But

1380
01:26:32,000 --> 01:26:34,760
Speaker 1: not bar. But she never was a dog getting harder

1381
01:26:34,800 --> 01:26:37,160
Speaker 1: stand the bar. But now if she got on a

1382
01:26:37,200 --> 01:26:40,479
Speaker 1: main bar, she try head buddy and uh. I seen

1383
01:26:40,560 --> 01:26:43,000
Speaker 1: her do it on two three buyers. And then the

1384
01:26:43,080 --> 01:26:46,640
Speaker 1: only bear ever seen her quit was we treat the

1385
01:26:46,720 --> 01:26:51,479
Speaker 1: main barn three panishaw, wouldn't he and uh and uh

1386
01:26:52,160 --> 01:26:54,040
Speaker 1: and that bar it in that tree clay would lay

1387
01:26:54,040 --> 01:26:55,880
Speaker 1: its years back and penny each years back, like it

1388
01:26:56,000 --> 01:26:58,120
Speaker 1: wanted to get ahold of some of us and hit

1389
01:26:58,200 --> 01:27:04,200
Speaker 1: him forty high that tree. And uh, so we didn't

1390
01:27:04,280 --> 01:27:06,840
Speaker 1: kill it. We should have, but we didn't, and we

1391
01:27:06,960 --> 01:27:09,680
Speaker 1: got the dogs off of it. Wound up having to

1392
01:27:09,760 --> 01:27:11,880
Speaker 1: have one dog put down and a bunch more got

1393
01:27:11,960 --> 01:27:15,840
Speaker 1: hurt on it. But she she didn't make it. She

1394
01:27:15,960 --> 01:27:18,120
Speaker 1: got messed up up at match pat. She didn't make

1395
01:27:18,160 --> 01:27:21,120
Speaker 1: it to the tree. Well, somebody noticed she got straightened

1396
01:27:21,120 --> 01:27:23,200
Speaker 1: out on it, and she come on in there, and

1397
01:27:23,320 --> 01:27:25,200
Speaker 1: we was done leaving the tree when she done that.

1398
01:27:25,840 --> 01:27:27,559
Speaker 1: So she come went right up by us and right

1399
01:27:27,600 --> 01:27:29,559
Speaker 1: on up at the tree. She went and went to tree.

1400
01:27:30,439 --> 01:27:33,000
Speaker 1: Barb was done gone. Bar has done gone. But she

1401
01:27:33,160 --> 01:27:35,320
Speaker 1: treated a little bit and she didn't do that wrong

1402
01:27:35,400 --> 01:27:38,880
Speaker 1: because she cut out and went on the bar. Well.

1403
01:27:39,120 --> 01:27:42,120
Speaker 1: I told him, boys, I said, I know exactly where

1404
01:27:42,160 --> 01:27:44,439
Speaker 1: the cross that in the calf. I said, she'd take

1405
01:27:44,479 --> 01:27:47,519
Speaker 1: it right across through there and down the other side,

1406
01:27:48,439 --> 01:27:50,400
Speaker 1: and I know where to cross that. We'll put right

1407
01:27:50,479 --> 01:27:53,160
Speaker 1: back on it over there. So we come out of there.

1408
01:27:53,920 --> 01:27:56,680
Speaker 1: But before we got out of there, she went to

1409
01:27:56,800 --> 01:27:59,920
Speaker 1: the study to the Appalachian Trail nearly and I'd say

1410
01:28:00,040 --> 01:28:02,280
Speaker 1: it is a running her. She caught up with it probably,

1411
01:28:02,680 --> 01:28:04,320
Speaker 1: and I'd tell he was a running her to she

1412
01:28:04,479 --> 01:28:07,200
Speaker 1: powdered back to us. That's a one ever seen her

1413
01:28:07,240 --> 01:28:11,599
Speaker 1: come out from. But then when we went over there

1414
01:28:13,120 --> 01:28:17,120
Speaker 1: and and turned back out on it, and it done

1415
01:28:17,200 --> 01:28:19,320
Speaker 1: just what I say, it went down a Hollywood thought

1416
01:28:19,360 --> 01:28:23,080
Speaker 1: it would. And now she stayed that whole race and

1417
01:28:23,560 --> 01:28:26,400
Speaker 1: got her herd on it and resire when with Keelty.

1418
01:28:27,120 --> 01:28:30,160
Speaker 1: So that secret dog, though, became a really nice dog

1419
01:28:30,600 --> 01:28:37,600
Speaker 1: I thought she could. For next week, we'll continue on

1420
01:28:37,880 --> 01:28:41,320
Speaker 1: with Part two with Roy Clark and the Laurel Mountain

1421
01:28:41,360 --> 01:28:41,920
Speaker 1: Bear Hunters