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Speaker 1: Jim Miller tonight tending to a personal matter as he
Speaker 1: gets ready for, you know, the important part of the
Speaker 1: season here the super Bowl and then the scouting combine,
Speaker 1: so he'll be down there as well. Mobi A BEMA,
Speaker 1: good to have you. Well, I gotta tell you, I
Speaker 1: think what Jeff Jim is getting ready for. I think
Speaker 1: the Senior Ball is more port and then the super
Speaker 1: Bowl because you know, I yeah, it's it's gonna be
Speaker 1: great watching. I think it's gonna be a great game.
Speaker 1: I still live an envy of the guys, the players
Speaker 1: that are having this experience either for more than the
Speaker 1: first time in their life or the first time in
Speaker 1: their life. It's such a special time in the in
Speaker 1: their lives, for their families, lives, for all their surrounding
Speaker 1: support systems that they've grown up with or you know,
Speaker 1: struggle through to get to this point. You're talking about
Speaker 1: Senior Bowl or those who many I've talked about the
Speaker 1: super Bowl guys. See I'm talking about this super Bowl guys,
Speaker 1: because you know the Senior Bowl, you still have so
Speaker 1: much ahead of you. You have the Senior Bowl, you
Speaker 1: have the Combine, you have all the individual visits that
Speaker 1: you're gonna make to the teams. You kind of jockey
Speaker 1: for that position where you're kind of eye and everybody
Speaker 1: else when you see him at the Senior Bowl or
Speaker 1: the Combines and seeing how you fit in, and you
Speaker 1: know that's that's a big time in their lives. But
Speaker 1: there's so much uncertainty. Man. The super Bowl. It's it, man,
Speaker 1: it is It's it's the big Well you lived it, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know about anybody you lived it, and you have
Speaker 1: the great appreciation for living it. But you also, again
Speaker 1: I talk about the envy you have ever everybody of
Speaker 1: what they're doing. What if you had never experienced it
Speaker 1: and you played it as long as you did, how
Speaker 1: do you think how would it have changed you mentally
Speaker 1: about your career, about the game, anything like that about
Speaker 1: the game of football. Well, you know, I have a friend,
Speaker 1: Jeff Van Note, who played center for the Atlanta Falcons
Speaker 1: only for eighteen years and I think only made it
Speaker 1: to the playoffs one time in his career. And then
Speaker 1: when we are going through this success we are having,
Speaker 1: he came to Chicago for the playoffs game and he
Speaker 1: was around the Super Bowl, and then you kind of
Speaker 1: got a reflection of seeing an elder statesman in the
Speaker 1: league that's committed his life to play in the NFL
Speaker 1: football that's never been able to achieve the success ultimately
Speaker 1: what every guy plays for. And there I was in
Speaker 1: my first year in the NFL and we're at the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. So you kind of you gained the appreciation
Speaker 1: for the experience you're going through because of some of
Speaker 1: the guys that have never had the opportunity. Mike Kennon
Speaker 1: was another guy, and Evanston guy from Michigan. Played seventeen
Speaker 1: years left tackle for the Atlanta Falcons. Never made it
Speaker 1: to this. I remember, I remember a pregame show down
Speaker 1: there in Atlanta. We had you, we had Mike Ken,
Speaker 1: we had Bill Freylick, we had some other guys offensive lineman.
Speaker 1: In one interview at one time in a pregame show,
Speaker 1: and I think this topic came up. I mean it's
Speaker 1: you know, look at Dan Marino. Yeah, this is a
Speaker 1: great comparison for Patrick Mahomes right now in Kansas City.
Speaker 1: He gets in there at such a tender age. Second year,
Speaker 1: never went back. You know, It's the same thing with me.
Speaker 1: I mean, I was twenty three or twenty four. We
Speaker 1: had the youngest team in the NFL. So he kind
Speaker 1: of walked out there as a four gone conclusion. Oh,
Speaker 1: we'll see you next year. All we'll see in two years.
Speaker 1: And we are luckily, luckily enough, we did get to
Speaker 1: the NFC Championship Game. He got beat by San Francisco
Speaker 1: forty nine ers at home, probably the worst and the
Speaker 1: hardest loss to take of any loss ever in the
Speaker 1: history of my career, and the worst losses of getting
Speaker 1: beat by USC four times in my college career, that's
Speaker 1: the worst. But losing the NFC Championship game is why why?
Speaker 1: Why that one stings more? The NFC Championship game, Oh man,
Speaker 1: because we are ripe, We're ready, We're gonna We're gonna
Speaker 1: go and beat the Cincinnati Bengals. We you know, we
Speaker 1: had a good football team. Um, you know we had
Speaker 1: we had a good performance after coming off a bad
Speaker 1: year the year before. And you know, there you are,
Speaker 1: You're one win away at home in the worst weather
Speaker 1: you could possibly have and it's all this bear weather
Speaker 1: thing that's being and then San Francisco comes in and
Speaker 1: they beat you at home. It's it's the most devastating loss.
Speaker 1: And you know, you can see how it still sits
Speaker 1: with all cover that game on never forgetting myself. Hey,
Speaker 1: coming up next on Bears All Access, we'll be joined
Speaker 1: by brand new tight Ends coach Clancy Barroni from the
Speaker 1: Bears coaching staff that Manhangy has put together for twenty twenty.
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Speaker 1: Broadcast crew here from the Bears on WBBM. Jeff Joni
Speaker 1: back in time. There No Jim Miller tonights. We'll get
Speaker 1: back to him next weeking very pleased to be welcome
Speaker 1: now by the new tight Ends coach of the Chicago Bears,
Speaker 1: Clancy Baruni. Clancy, thanks for taking some time out. How
Speaker 1: are you doing tonight? I'm doing great, guys. Things out there?
Speaker 1: Oh pretty cold? Pretty cold? Well? You are you in Nevada?
Speaker 1: I am, yeah, I'm right outside of Vegas. This is
Speaker 1: where my home is year round. So okay, well you
Speaker 1: got a little warmer there. You'll get you'll you'll get
Speaker 1: back here and get you You'll know what it's all like.
Speaker 1: You've been, You've been around the Midwest. Um, you know,
Speaker 1: going through you know, your your career is really another
Speaker 1: indication of what assistant coaches, over the course of their
Speaker 1: or their life in football have to endure in many
Speaker 1: cases and thrive in as well. Seventh, this is your
Speaker 1: seventeenth job with your thirteenth different team, going back to college,
Speaker 1: not just NFL, but going back to college. I heck
Speaker 1: you do that? How do you do it? What's kind
Speaker 1: of why I have a permanent home? You know, my
Speaker 1: my wife and I have purchase and sold homes I
Speaker 1: want to say, like eleven different states something like that,
Speaker 1: and so after a while, it just makes tess to
Speaker 1: have home base. And that's why we chose our little
Speaker 1: place out here by by Vegas. It's the great weather
Speaker 1: and so forth. But you know, I guess to your point, uh,
Speaker 1: it is that is kind of the gig that you're
Speaker 1: that you're signing up for and and hopefully you can
Speaker 1: get someplace and stick for a while. You know, my
Speaker 1: my longest stand was in Denver. I was there for
Speaker 1: eight years, which is that's like that's like two lifetimes
Speaker 1: as a football coach. Hey, classy, this top there, former
Speaker 1: offensive lineman and going. So I was involved in Super
Speaker 1: Bowl twenty. You were involved in So you've been involved
Speaker 1: in two super Bowl Super Bowl fifty to win? Do
Speaker 1: you so? During this time are you a football fan
Speaker 1: of the Super Bowl? Because I like the game, but
Speaker 1: the aftermath I'm so envious of because I know the
Speaker 1: commitment and the fun they're having because of their commitment.
Speaker 1: How do you feel about this time of year in football?
Speaker 1: You know, Tom, probably probably the same as you. You know,
Speaker 1: and I get it. I I you know, the grind
Speaker 1: that that you go through and that you're that your
Speaker 1: families go through, and the players and the coaches, and
Speaker 1: I know, how about about this time you kind of
Speaker 1: get that second or by now that that third win
Speaker 1: because of what's at stake. Um, you know, unlike yourself,
Speaker 1: I've also lost a Super Bowl. And so when you
Speaker 1: would think about all the all the stuff that you
Speaker 1: put into it, and then you get there and things
Speaker 1: don't go your way, that's that that might be one
Speaker 1: of the worst feelings I've ever I've ever had as
Speaker 1: a professional. But obviously, uh, you know, you're right that
Speaker 1: that when you do win that and all all the
Speaker 1: stuff's coming down, all the confetti and here comes a
Speaker 1: trophy and things like that, there's really nothing else quite
Speaker 1: quite like that. It's a great conversation about this over
Speaker 1: the years with people in my business. I'm i sad
Speaker 1: offense and just fans in general. You know, the whole
Speaker 1: idea of losing a Super Bowl hurts so badly that
Speaker 1: some have told me many times they'd rather not go,
Speaker 1: you know they're going to lose, or if they go,
Speaker 1: because it's the pain is just too great to overcome.
Speaker 1: And you know, as a team that overcomes that obstacle,
Speaker 1: it is very difficult then to follow that up with
Speaker 1: a really good season in many, many cases, certainly in
Speaker 1: recent vintage. So that the mental and the spiritual impact
Speaker 1: on a team, a person, a quarterback, or a unit
Speaker 1: or whatever how it all unfolds is really something that
Speaker 1: doesn't get enough attention. I think. I think there's more
Speaker 1: to it than that clancy. No, you're right, and the
Speaker 1: thing that really no one talks about is you really
Speaker 1: have no off season. I mean, you're you're playing up
Speaker 1: until February and then all of a sudden, everything kind
Speaker 1: of hits you right in the face. As a coaching staff,
Speaker 1: whether you win or lose, you're right back in there
Speaker 1: the next weekend. You have to look at pre agents
Speaker 1: and so forth. You have to try to get caught
Speaker 1: up on the draft and that type of thing. As
Speaker 1: a player, you know, if there is any where if
Speaker 1: you have to go in and get get something kind
Speaker 1: of tuned up during the off season, get a scope
Speaker 1: here there or whatever else. Now your time has just
Speaker 1: gotten shorter to get that you know, fully healed and
Speaker 1: so forth. So you know, I'm just amazed at people
Speaker 1: like the Patriots who seem to do it year in
Speaker 1: and year out where they have a very short offseason,
Speaker 1: but it does seem to work for them. I think
Speaker 1: there's a certain mindset you have to have going into it.
Speaker 1: I think we've all witnessed the teams who've had that
Speaker 1: that hangover, so to speak, when they get there, whether
Speaker 1: they lose or not, they get there and they're not
Speaker 1: really sure how to handle that to shortened offseason, either
Speaker 1: as a player or as a coach. You know you're
Speaker 1: going to have a short offseason because you got so
Speaker 1: much on your plate in terms of learning the terminology
Speaker 1: in the offense. But you know, I was watching a
Speaker 1: micd Up segment with you during an OTAs of one
Speaker 1: of your last stops. You bring a lot of energy
Speaker 1: to OTAs. So when you get, you know, in front
Speaker 1: of the players the first time in OTAs, what do
Speaker 1: you like to accomplish Because you're not going to be
Speaker 1: in pads, you're not going to be able to do
Speaker 1: a lot of the drills that you're going to have
Speaker 1: access to in training camp, So what will be your
Speaker 1: approach in OTAs well. The thing is is that I've
Speaker 1: always kind of prided myself and being a teacher first,
Speaker 1: and so part of it is you have to have
Speaker 1: to learn it first. I can teach it. And right
Speaker 1: now I'm trying to learn a foreign language. As anyone
Speaker 1: who's ever switched teams, either as a player or as
Speaker 1: a coach, they be able to get that. So once
Speaker 1: I get that foreign language down and I can, I
Speaker 1: can teach it. That's always the part of the job
Speaker 1: that I really loved the most is when you when
Speaker 1: you get the guys in there and you can you
Speaker 1: can teach them maybe new ways to look at at
Speaker 1: certain techniques or at certain schemes jone and this occase
Speaker 1: you no coach in the tight ends, ways to run
Speaker 1: certain routes versus certain coverages, ways to block certain plays
Speaker 1: versus certain fronts, and so on, and too me, I
Speaker 1: think I think that's that's that's always fun. Now it
Speaker 1: isn't like back in the day, you know, back when,
Speaker 1: back when Tom was playing, and obviously spring time was
Speaker 1: a little bit more involved and so forth. Now it's
Speaker 1: it's a little bit different, so there is more time
Speaker 1: on task trying to teach and not have the players
Speaker 1: go through the whole physical part of it, you know, classy.
Speaker 1: The tight end position itself is pretty amazing because throughout
Speaker 1: your time in the NFL there's probably been more change
Speaker 1: of the tight end position because of the U tight end,
Speaker 1: the the on the line of scrimmage tight end, the
Speaker 1: h back tight end, the full back tight end. So
Speaker 1: when you're talking about learning an offense, you're taught you
Speaker 1: got to learn every single aspect of all the moving
Speaker 1: parts of the offense because the tight end is so
Speaker 1: versatile these days. You know, you're right, And I think
Speaker 1: with my background, you know, and you touched on earlier
Speaker 1: about you know, going back into college ball where I
Speaker 1: was a coordinator where you have to kind of understand
Speaker 1: everything obviously, but also in the National Football League, haven't
Speaker 1: spent time as a as a line coach as well,
Speaker 1: where you're you're totally engrossing everything from what the your
Speaker 1: running back does and what the quarterback looks at and
Speaker 1: so forth. That has really helped me as a a
Speaker 1: tight ends coach. But I think that we have seen
Speaker 1: it and going back to when I was with the Falcons,
Speaker 1: you know, seventeen see whatever is years ago, and I
Speaker 1: had a guy named Algie Crumpler who has maybe one
Speaker 1: of the best point point of attack tight ends as
Speaker 1: far as blocking, but who's also a great third down
Speaker 1: tight end, a great red zone tight end, led our
Speaker 1: team in receptions and touchdowns two years in a row.
Speaker 1: But that position has evolved so much since then. Now
Speaker 1: you're getting a lot of guys who are who are
Speaker 1: former basketball players, who are former quarterbacks, who couldn't quite
Speaker 1: make the grade in college playing quarterback, so they so
Speaker 1: they became tight ends and so forth. So part of
Speaker 1: it is also trying to restructure how they see the
Speaker 1: game and how they view their role. Clancy brouni Our
Speaker 1: guest here on Chicago Sports Radio six seventy the Score.
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Speaker 1: the new tight ends coach of the Bears. You mentioned, oh,
Speaker 1: there's two points I want to wake one. Clancy, did
Speaker 1: you get a good chuckle out of top there and
Speaker 1: used some cell former offensive lineman. Don't you love that?
Speaker 1: That is typical offensive lineman. Yeah, there's something about, you know,
Speaker 1: the whole moxy of that of that position. He's part
Speaker 1: of the eighty five Bears. He's got a ramming Mike Gosh.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, right off to him. Yeah, he's
Speaker 1: got billboard, he's got photos, he's got posters, and he's
Speaker 1: got a red clancy. If you can see him right now.
Speaker 1: He is beat red right now because he hates that attention,
Speaker 1: like all good offensive lineman. But I want to mention
Speaker 1: I think I think I was in eighth grade when
Speaker 1: when I was watching him place, I was a huge fan.
Speaker 1: There you go, and to that end, you know, uh,
Speaker 1: you mentioned the tight end position in Atlanta, and if
Speaker 1: I'm not mistaken, that is the first legitimate time or
Speaker 1: at least by by name and title, that you were
Speaker 1: a tight ends coach. And that was under Jim Morrige. Yes,
Speaker 1: exactly right, Yes, yes, So what we're talking all about
Speaker 1: these different positions, we're talking about, you know, pass catching
Speaker 1: tight positions. In most cases Tom mentioned h back, you
Speaker 1: the tight end that likes to put his hand in
Speaker 1: the ground and drive somebody off the ball. I I
Speaker 1: forgot to write the kid's name down today from the
Speaker 1: senior ball. He's doing interviews and he says, my biggest
Speaker 1: thrill is not catching the pass. It's putting another guy
Speaker 1: on his back. And don't you love that mindset too
Speaker 1: from a tight end? Yeah, that's that is that is
Speaker 1: very new. I mean, it's it's it's kind of strange
Speaker 1: these days. And usually those guys come from Iowa, you know.
Speaker 1: And I think coach Parence is a great job down
Speaker 1: there with those guys, you know. But yeah, and they
Speaker 1: have a guy who doesn't care who gets the credit
Speaker 1: as long as as as as removing the chains and
Speaker 1: scoring points. That's that is that is kind of cool.
Speaker 1: You know, when you think about algae down in Atlanta. Initially,
Speaker 1: is the eye test for the tight ends still the
Speaker 1: same because you think of what his size and his
Speaker 1: stature was, But then when you got to move them
Speaker 1: to a full back or h back or move them
Speaker 1: a little bit. Has has the the eye test changed
Speaker 1: a little bit over the years or is it still consistent?
Speaker 1: You're looking for the biggest and best athlete you can find,
Speaker 1: you know, I guess, uh, man, I guess you have
Speaker 1: to try to answer your question that being to two wishywashy.
Speaker 1: You know, I think a lot of it depends on
Speaker 1: your own offensive scheme and if you're going to have
Speaker 1: a guy who's going to be a guy that that
Speaker 1: there runs the seam. You got this, you know, six
Speaker 1: foot six, two hundred forty five two hundred fifty on
Speaker 1: tight end who's just athletic and a former basketball player
Speaker 1: and just like a real freak athlete. You're probably not
Speaker 1: going to ask that guy to get back in behind
Speaker 1: the quarterback in a three point stance and try to
Speaker 1: go isoblock a six two linebacker. You know he'll he'll
Speaker 1: lose that the leverage battle almost every time. So I
Speaker 1: think you have to look at, you know, what does
Speaker 1: your offense want from that position. And that's also why
Speaker 1: you would tend to have about three tight ends up
Speaker 1: on the game day and one guy can kind of
Speaker 1: answers this, one guy answers that you and kind of
Speaker 1: scritch war scratch where it is just so to speak
Speaker 1: with all with all three different guys. Clancy Broni, our
Speaker 1: guest here on Bears All Access. Uh, You, like a player,
Speaker 1: you have to deal with what's coming at you. And
Speaker 1: in your last stop of the Minnesota Vikings, Uh, you
Speaker 1: endured what had to be an unthinkable scenario with the
Speaker 1: death of Vikings offensive line coach Tony Sperrano and then
Speaker 1: that moved you into that role on offensive line. What
Speaker 1: was that like in retrospect now that you've had time
Speaker 1: to deal with that, think about that and what that
Speaker 1: did for that team. Well, you know, I guess to
Speaker 1: be fair, when I came in and Pat Shermer was
Speaker 1: was the coordinator when I come in. You know, Tony
Speaker 1: it had some episodes with his health. After in the
Speaker 1: A twenty sixteen season, I was still back in Denver,
Speaker 1: and so uh, part of what of what brought me
Speaker 1: here was Pat said, you know, I'd like to have
Speaker 1: a guy that has some some old line background to
Speaker 1: come coach to tight ends because if Tony has to
Speaker 1: has to take a knee for a week or two,
Speaker 1: then you can slide over and take that that job
Speaker 1: over until he's well and can come back. Obviously, it
Speaker 1: was it ended up way way worse than that when
Speaker 1: when Tony passed in the summer of twenty eighteen, UM,
Speaker 1: and so yeah, I was. I was thrilled to get
Speaker 1: back with the offensive line, but obviously under you know
Speaker 1: what that type of thing happened, and that was that
Speaker 1: was horrible for Tony first, you know, for his family
Speaker 1: and for all of us who worked with Tony and
Speaker 1: loved him so much. A lot of coaches out there
Speaker 1: do get some breaks at times, and how did you
Speaker 1: deal with yours in twenty nineteen to get yourself mentally
Speaker 1: ready for the next challenge. I'll tell you what, and
Speaker 1: it's a blessing. And probably very few people know the story.
Speaker 1: My mom is eighty three, she's eighty four now, and
Speaker 1: she'd had some some very serious medical conditions and it
Speaker 1: was it was the night before we played the Bears
Speaker 1: in week seventeen of twenty eighteen, and my mom had
Speaker 1: a six hour brain surgery and thinking about that at
Speaker 1: that age and to be under for six hours and
Speaker 1: to have, you know, pretty involved brain surgery, and so
Speaker 1: at the time, you know, we're kind of rebanned from
Speaker 1: the staff and there there's a lot of changes and
Speaker 1: so forth. So I had had an opportunity to kind
Speaker 1: of step away from football for a while, go back
Speaker 1: out to California and really be there with mom and
Speaker 1: help her have the best, you know, the best fourth
Speaker 1: quarter of her life, so to speak. And I was
Speaker 1: there with her when when she was going through speech
Speaker 1: therapy and physical therapy and she's up and walking and
Speaker 1: talking again. And uh, and I was just talking to
Speaker 1: her today. She is living the best life she's had
Speaker 1: in many, many years. She's back living on her own
Speaker 1: in the old in the old homestead and everything and
Speaker 1: just doing great. So I feel very blessed I had
Speaker 1: a chance to actually go home and do that. I
Speaker 1: know that. Um, when when my dad got sick, you know,
Speaker 1: twenty seven years ago, I saw dad, I want to say,
Speaker 1: two days out of the last six months of his life,
Speaker 1: and that was that was hard to handle. That was
Speaker 1: that was really tough. And so I when I had
Speaker 1: this chance to go back in and be with mom,
Speaker 1: and you know, God willing things turned out the way
Speaker 1: they did. You know, I just felt very fortunate. And
Speaker 1: they're very blessed to have that chance to do that. Oh,
Speaker 1: it's an unbelievable story. Well got well, and she's gonna
Speaker 1: watch him become a Bears fan. Make sure you get
Speaker 1: her at jar. Absolutely yes, yes, absolutely, well Clancy, will
Speaker 1: let you go. Thanks so much for taking some time
Speaker 1: to look forward to meeting you. Thank you, Clancy. All right, guys,
Speaker 1: Clancy Brown, Bears new tight ends coach. We'll take a break.
Speaker 1: This is Bears All Access on Chicago Sports Radio six
Speaker 1: seventy The Score. This segment of Bears All Access is
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Speaker 1: Lose his swagger. Jeff Jony Act Tom there with you
Speaker 1: here on Chicago Sports Radio six seventy The Score. Just
Speaker 1: got off the phone with Clancy Barroni, the Bears tight
Speaker 1: end coach, impressively. Yeah, you know, I think in the
Speaker 1: last two weeks of talking the new offensive line coach,
Speaker 1: Juan Castillo and now Clancy Baroni, the tight ends coach,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of experience in between those two guys,
Speaker 1: and so I think when you see the morph and
Speaker 1: the changes of offensive systems and schemes throughout the NFL,
Speaker 1: and you've been around the NFL, you know, for fifteen, seventeen,
Speaker 1: eighteen years, like the two of them have been, you know,
Speaker 1: twenty four for Juan Castile, you know, there's gonna be
Speaker 1: a lot of experience that hopefully he's going to cultivate
Speaker 1: some young talent up there, because you know, they're gonna
Speaker 1: have to make position adjustments, they're gonna have to find
Speaker 1: the right people for the job, and then they're gonna
Speaker 1: have to get it ready for some hard work. And
Speaker 1: you know, it's interesting. We can't get into you know,
Speaker 1: the dudes and the wise and the winds and the
Speaker 1: house yet because these guys are, like he said, he's
Speaker 1: still learning it. Yeah, it is. It's like learning, you know.
Speaker 1: And I try to say that the people. It's like,
Speaker 1: you know, Okay, you're gonna move to France in two
Speaker 1: and a half months and you've got to speak French
Speaker 1: fluently by the time you get there. You have to
Speaker 1: understand what you're saying and understand what's being you know,
Speaker 1: you know, you know that that's true from a player.
Speaker 1: I mean, one of the first players to ever explained
Speaker 1: that to me in the more modern change of football
Speaker 1: is Ricky Prole all the time, you say, you know,
Speaker 1: you're learning Chinese, right. And for coaches, since they've been
Speaker 1: exposed to so many systems, and he's worked with Jim
Speaker 1: Morri Junior, he's got all those college coaches, he's worked
Speaker 1: with North Turner, worked with Josh McDaniels on his staff,
Speaker 1: John Fox, Mike Zimmer. I mean, as a whole lot
Speaker 1: of different types of personality, schemes and so forth, right,
Speaker 1: and you know, and as much as they don't they
Speaker 1: you know, I remember when Adam Gase was here, and
Speaker 1: you're looking at the terminology that Adam Gaze had for
Speaker 1: this offense. And then Adam Gaze leaves, they bring in
Speaker 1: doll loggins, and so I asked him, I said, are
Speaker 1: you going to change the terminology outside of what was
Speaker 1: being taught by Adam Gay so things can so the
Speaker 1: learning curve can be expedited. And he said, oh no,
Speaker 1: I'm not going to change him. Then I went in
Speaker 1: next the next year reading the terminology that he's using.
Speaker 1: It's different than Adam Gaze's. So I think every time
Speaker 1: someone gets hired into a position of offensive authority, they
Speaker 1: want to bring along their own language to help out,
Speaker 1: to help out their plan and kind of you know,
Speaker 1: I you know, put themselves in their in their own kaku.
Speaker 1: Did you have to learn much, you know, I know,
Speaker 1: aside from going down in Miami for that one year.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you mean you always you know, kind of
Speaker 1: Luckily in the Chicago we are in the same system,
Speaker 1: so we got it became so repetitive. You never you
Speaker 1: didn't have to sit and even though we did sit
Speaker 1: meetings for three hours every night, it was just repeated information.
Speaker 1: But it was more for the new guys to learn
Speaker 1: and then when you go down and you change teams.
Speaker 1: In the middle of the year, Steve de Burgh and
Speaker 1: I came to came to the Miami Dolphins the same day.
Speaker 1: He was the quarterback. Guy was an offensive lineman. And
Speaker 1: all you do is you investigate every single waking second
Speaker 1: outside of practice, learning the information so when you are
Speaker 1: in uniform you can be called upon. And so I
Speaker 1: remember remember Steve de Berg sitting there all night just
Speaker 1: learning the terminology, learning the plays, learning the routes, and
Speaker 1: absorb so much information that he was able to play
Speaker 1: within a week's time. It was the most amazing thing
Speaker 1: to watch a quarterback. But now an offensive line play,
Speaker 1: you're dealing with adjustments on the defense, but you're also
Speaker 1: dealing with four other offensive lineman, the tight end and
Speaker 1: the fullback, along with all your blocking schemes. So you're
Speaker 1: learning it differently. But you have you know, obviously you
Speaker 1: don't have as much materially to learn as a quarterback,
Speaker 1: but you still have to learn everything perfectly. System scheme yes,
Speaker 1: fundamentals then that's that's just a learned behavior from repetition.
Speaker 1: The scheme, yes, but the fundamentals that are taught within
Speaker 1: the scheme. Any position coach can teach those Any position
Speaker 1: coach can teach any funding the fundamentals of their position. Yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: so that's the stuff that you know is the most important.
Speaker 1: With Clancy Browne. I went back and I was watching
Speaker 1: this micd ups. I was the Denver Broncos with the
Speaker 1: Denver Broncos, and you heard the coaching points that they
Speaker 1: just they constantly come out. You know, once a coach
Speaker 1: gets on the field, whether it's Dick Stanfeld bringing our
Speaker 1: offensive line out about twenty minutes before practice to go
Speaker 1: through some little individual things, or in the midst of
Speaker 1: practice or OTAs, the coaching never stops. There is something
Speaker 1: that's being told to you. And you better be patient
Speaker 1: as a player to be able to accept every coaching
Speaker 1: point that they're telling you against any circumstances that you're
Speaker 1: going to face, because alls they're trying to do is
Speaker 1: help you become a smarter, better player. All right. News
Speaker 1: of the day, Clail Mac has somewhat of an injured situation,
Speaker 1: so undisclosed injuries, so not going to be in the
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl. I'm sure it's not a big deal. DC.
Speaker 1: I don't care. I just you know, the Pro Bowl
Speaker 1: is what it is. I'm glad for the guys that
Speaker 1: do get the thrill of experiencing it, but it certainly
Speaker 1: is different. Eddie Jackson and Cordello patterns would be in
Speaker 1: some skills competition as part of those festivities. In Kyle
Speaker 1: Full they're aboard as well, and some rule changes getting attention.
Speaker 1: These are things that their tryouts basically to see how
Speaker 1: the competition committee and the rules committee might discuss it
Speaker 1: at the owners meetings, you know, after the after the season, right,
Speaker 1: I was reading some of them, think, I don't know,
Speaker 1: you know, it's just hard to you know, again we're purist.
Speaker 1: It's hard to see rule changes, whether it's you know,
Speaker 1: trying to think of a different way to keep the
Speaker 1: onsite kick out of the game, which to me, it's
Speaker 1: still one of the most anticipated exciting plays in football,
Speaker 1: and I don't think that changing it to fourth and fifteen.
Speaker 1: You know, So what are you gonna do. Put a
Speaker 1: wide receiver that's guaranteed one on one coverage, throw them
Speaker 1: the ball and hope for an interference call. So you
Speaker 1: have a better chance of trying to get an interference
Speaker 1: call than you do of trying to win the battle
Speaker 1: for an outside kick, and I think it's silliness myself.
Speaker 1: I don't I don't like messing around of the game.
Speaker 1: But you know, with the debut of the XFL or
Speaker 1: the redbut of the XFL, you wonder if things that
Speaker 1: become popular to the fan and maybe to a certain
Speaker 1: selection of players when they go crazy again social media
Speaker 1: watching it, that these are things that will get discussed
Speaker 1: along the way. Else, if you have trial and error,
Speaker 1: if you have examples of it, if you have a
Speaker 1: season long you know, um, you know, kind of rule
Speaker 1: change option experiment, maybe it gives you a little bit
Speaker 1: better understanding of it. Just to do things right in
Speaker 1: mid stride where guys have never been a part of
Speaker 1: it before. I think it's kind of silly. So like
Speaker 1: last year that you guys made fun of me of
Speaker 1: wanting to watch the AAF, I'm excited to watch it.
Speaker 1: I didn't make fun of you. I was just intrigued
Speaker 1: by how much conversation you brought from it. You were
Speaker 1: you were You were looking for kickers, is what you
Speaker 1: were doing. I was looking for kickers and the one
Speaker 1: I picked did come to the Bears, but he didn't
Speaker 1: make the team. Okay, so what are you gonna be
Speaker 1: looking for from the XFL you'll be watching. I'm just
Speaker 1: looking for desirable competition. Because I was talking to a
Speaker 1: guy that played in my high school, Tie Isaac, super
Speaker 1: successful high school running back, went on to play at
Speaker 1: USC in Michigan. And here's a kid that I see
Speaker 1: him working out at the gym down and Joliet, and
Speaker 1: he's physically gifted kid, and he's got more desire to
Speaker 1: play football than a lot of people that I would
Speaker 1: that I was playing with when I was playing. I
Speaker 1: see guys out there that they want their opportunity, they
Speaker 1: want a chance, they want a chance to be able
Speaker 1: to be able to succeed. It's like all the conversation
Speaker 1: with the kid, and saff is just going to say
Speaker 1: every kid that wants it is now A huge fan
Speaker 1: of Raheem Moster. And you know what too is he
Speaker 1: was with the Bears in twenty sixteen, right, he was,
Speaker 1: and he had a reputation of not being not securing
Speaker 1: the football, had some kind of fundamental He's a good
Speaker 1: special teams player though, yes, but they brought him in
Speaker 1: here to be a running back. And so I think
Speaker 1: I don't think it's all the other five teams that
Speaker 1: passed on him there at fault. It's just that if
Speaker 1: there's talent out there, you're going to investigate it to
Speaker 1: see if it fits into your plan. And unfortunately at
Speaker 1: that point he did it. But look how long it
Speaker 1: took him to succeed. The right opportunity, right system, right coach,
Speaker 1: right whatever, right right in there in front of you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what was going through your mind when he put up
Speaker 1: to twenty and four touchdowns? You know, I remember Tim Smith,
Speaker 1: they're running back for the Washington Redskins and the Super
Speaker 1: Bowl he had over two hundred yards rushing him. Then
Speaker 1: he was never heard from again, and it's kind of amazing.
Speaker 1: It's not what you did? What are you going to
Speaker 1: do with it? And so I still I hope for
Speaker 1: the best for this young guy. But again, his determination
Speaker 1: must be unlike a lot of others that didn't get
Speaker 1: discouraged to start thinking, hey man, I should not be
Speaker 1: involved in this anymore. What am I gonna do next? Man?
Speaker 1: It's like, once you're a football player, you can't have
Speaker 1: a second option. It's got to be your one option,
Speaker 1: and you've got to do it till your successful outstanding
Speaker 1: gunner as well or He mostered the talk of the
Speaker 1: San Francisco forty nine ers and their win as they
Speaker 1: set up Super Bowl fifty four. We'll talk about that
Speaker 1: a little bit, get into more unto the Bears here
Speaker 1: with Tom There. I'm Jeff Joniac on Chicago Sports Radio
Speaker 1: six seventy the Score. Jeff Joniac, Tom there with you
Speaker 1: with Mike Chen and Chris Dickens are producers. Welcome into
Speaker 1: Bears All Access here in Chicago Sports Radio seventy the Score.
Speaker 1: I think everybody calls him charl Dickens. Probably, I don't
Speaker 1: know he got a nickname, Mike. No, not that he's
Speaker 1: aware of. Okay, good to have you alongside a little
Speaker 1: more than twenty some minutes to go here before the
Speaker 1: top of the hour, brought to you by IGS Energy.
Speaker 1: Tom throwing my way some questions in the break, he's
Speaker 1: watching Patrick Mahomes and his lightning touchdown of note that's
Speaker 1: getting everyone's attention, but the tackling was pretty poor on
Speaker 1: that one. It's just I'm sorry you're not giving him
Speaker 1: credit for making the run or just no, I am
Speaker 1: I Hey, he did the results speak for themselves. However,
Speaker 1: if this was a regular season game and I was
Speaker 1: watching the approach of the tacklers that we're getting able to.
Speaker 1: You know, how often do you get a chance to
Speaker 1: jack up a quarterback? I mean, once he turns into
Speaker 1: a runner, it should be your total emphasis to leave.
Speaker 1: And I mean this innocently. I don't mean it mean,
Speaker 1: but leave scars. You gotta jack him up. You gotta
Speaker 1: take all of your momentum, and you gotta get low,
Speaker 1: and you gotta light that guy up. And you just
Speaker 1: don't have the luxury anymore. It used to bother me
Speaker 1: when Brett Farve would scramble against the Bears and or
Speaker 1: else go and try to block on a reverse or something.
Speaker 1: As soon as he became a blocker, it would be
Speaker 1: forearmed to chim, hey, we'll take some phone calls in
Speaker 1: these final twenty minutes or so, if you so desire.
Speaker 1: Three one two sixty four, sixty seven, sixty seven, sixty
Speaker 1: four four sixty seven, sixty seven. Here on Chicago Sports
Speaker 1: Radio six seventy the score, Jeff, Joniak and Tom there.
Speaker 1: Before we get into more on the Super Bowl. I
Speaker 1: saw this was a quote from Kyle Shanahan. It's a
Speaker 1: long quote, but it involves the center position and the
Speaker 1: quote basically says to get into certain personnel groupings to
Speaker 1: help someone have an angle, say on a mic linebacker,
Speaker 1: middle linebacker, so you can help your center out with
Speaker 1: the guard. Sometimes they go into a one back. Now
Speaker 1: the weak side linebacker asked to walk outside the box,
Speaker 1: and the angles to the mic aren't as good. But
Speaker 1: you got a center can get there on his own,
Speaker 1: doesn't need to help. It allows you to do a
Speaker 1: bunch of different stuff to paraphrase and go on. He says,
Speaker 1: there are a lot of good players that position, but
Speaker 1: when you have a difference maker at that position, he's
Speaker 1: found in his career that it's been a lot easier
Speaker 1: to run an offense. Do you see the truth in
Speaker 1: what Kyle Shannan's talking about. I think great is great.
Speaker 1: I think if you're a great center, then we've had
Speaker 1: the luxury or here of watching decades of centers between
Speaker 1: Hilgi and Olan Cruz. You think of Kelsey and Philadelphia,
Speaker 1: you think of the great centers along the way. They
Speaker 1: can do things individually that maybe getting to the second level.
Speaker 1: They don't need the guard to help them. But I
Speaker 1: don't think there's anything more beneficial than making sure that
Speaker 1: you're getting movement on the line of scrimmage to get
Speaker 1: up to that second level. And if it takes a
Speaker 1: center and guard to do that better, then you know
Speaker 1: that's that's the way you get the job done in
Speaker 1: you know what. You know the bodies aren't always getting
Speaker 1: bigger on the defensive line. Sometimes you know, you got
Speaker 1: guys like Aaron Donald that they have such superior quickness,
Speaker 1: you better limit the space that they can be superior
Speaker 1: and have two bodies work and shoulder the shoulder. When
Speaker 1: offensive lineman double team, they should never touch each other.
Speaker 1: They should both be making contact with the defensive lineman first.
Speaker 1: So I just think it's it's how talented of a
Speaker 1: player do you have. Do you anticipate the offensive line
Speaker 1: in terms outside of new personnel coming in, The current
Speaker 1: players where they're at as the season ended, might stay
Speaker 1: in those positions or not. You know, I think it's
Speaker 1: gonna be interesting for Wanca Stello and Clarence Baroni to
Speaker 1: look at tape of how the offensive line work together,
Speaker 1: because I still think Rashad Coward is probably playing out
Speaker 1: a position at offensive guard. He could go and probably
Speaker 1: be a solid offensive tackle. I think the Alex bars
Speaker 1: from Notre Dame. I think he's unique and he's got
Speaker 1: to experience had multiple positions, So I think during training camp, yeah,
Speaker 1: you're gonna have the starting five offensive lineman going out there,
Speaker 1: but you do want to have, you know, great competition
Speaker 1: behind these guys to make sure that no one has
Speaker 1: you know, has a job already that it's going to
Speaker 1: be competed for. And I think if you have an
Speaker 1: Alex Bars, you mean you have a Rashad Coward. I
Speaker 1: can play at the positions they're most comfortable, and I
Speaker 1: think you provide competition. But I do think when they
Speaker 1: line up the first days at OTAs, they will be
Speaker 1: in the same place as that they concluded the season end.
Speaker 1: Tom there, Jeff Joni aac here on Chicago Sports Radio
Speaker 1: six seventy the score, Let's go to the phones, three
Speaker 1: four sixty seven, sixty seven. Mike's on the line from Byron,
Speaker 1: Mike go ahead, Hey, yeah, it's thanks for taking my
Speaker 1: tall love his show, and I just wanted to ask you,
Speaker 1: Tom Faire, as an offensive lineman, how much does a
Speaker 1: tight end like a George Kittle play into the part
Speaker 1: of but testing the quarterback, giving them time to throw
Speaker 1: something over the middle and you know, just make the
Speaker 1: offense that much easier on the guy like much of Christy.
Speaker 1: You know, it's it is a great question because I
Speaker 1: think the tight end can be incorporated in the past
Speaker 1: protection responsibilities and if they are a good pass protector,
Speaker 1: you're giving more um, You're giving more help to the
Speaker 1: offensive line, you give him more protection for the quarterback.
Speaker 1: I don't know, you know, George Kittle is unique man
Speaker 1: this His dad was a football player, played at Iowa.
Speaker 1: You know, George Kittle was coached by his dad grown
Speaker 1: up and you can see the experience within him. But
Speaker 1: if you can have a tight end at that position,
Speaker 1: who can be equally as good as a blocker as
Speaker 1: he is a dangerous target, and I think that's you know,
Speaker 1: kind of hard to find. Maybe Gronk in those later
Speaker 1: years when he was you know, he couldn't run as
Speaker 1: well as he could early in his career, he probably
Speaker 1: became a better blocker because that's where he was he
Speaker 1: was more useful. But yeah, those blocking tad ends that
Speaker 1: it can also make sure you have some diversity when
Speaker 1: you line them up. That's a little bit in disguise
Speaker 1: for what the defense is expecting. Those guys aren't rolling
Speaker 1: into the league, right. But you know you just talked
Speaker 1: about Shanahan's quote about having a center who can get
Speaker 1: to the second level. I was watching some blocks by
Speaker 1: Kittle this past weekend where he was getting to the
Speaker 1: second level, and the reason the running back wasn't be
Speaker 1: in touch of the third level is because of that
Speaker 1: second level blocked by a Kittle. So I think a
Speaker 1: tight end they got to be able to do everything.
Speaker 1: They got to be able to line up as an
Speaker 1: H back, line up on the line of scrimmage, be
Speaker 1: able to block a defensive end. And you're not asking
Speaker 1: this tight end to block a defensive end solely for
Speaker 1: five or six seconds. You're asking them to get their
Speaker 1: hands on, make him run a wider path to the quarterback,
Speaker 1: and try to keep in some kind of after this weekend.
Speaker 1: What you're also stuck with, who you know, is making
Speaker 1: sure you get guys or making sure your receivers are
Speaker 1: willing to block, because those short little runs of three,
Speaker 1: four or five six yards become double digit runs did
Speaker 1: from most start over the weekend most and with a
Speaker 1: tight end and wide receivers having that willingness to block,
Speaker 1: it just opens things up. Well. I think that's one
Speaker 1: of the most impressive impressive qualities of Alan Robinson, as
Speaker 1: he is willing to block, whether he's going to block
Speaker 1: on a jet sweep or a screen that immediately comes
Speaker 1: to the outside. Cordella Patterson is a good blocker, and
Speaker 1: I think Riley Ridley and these guys that's what they're
Speaker 1: gonna have to be willing to do. We know Ridley
Speaker 1: is a super capable receiver, but if he's gonna expand
Speaker 1: his time on the field in packages where they don't
Speaker 1: know exactly what's going to happen every time he's on
Speaker 1: the field, he's got to become that blocker. All right,
Speaker 1: let's take another phone call. We'll go to Nick in
Speaker 1: Gray's Lake. You're on Chicago Sports Radio six seventy the
Speaker 1: Score with Jeff Intown. Hey, fellas, I hope you're having
Speaker 1: a good night. I was listening to the I was
Speaker 1: listening to you guys talk about great center play, and
Speaker 1: it just reminded me of I was watching the clip
Speaker 1: of the third down touchdown that Mozart scored two nights ago,
Speaker 1: and if you watch the center, I think he down
Speaker 1: blocks or backblocks a four ye or a five tech,
Speaker 1: which is I might be exaggerating a little bit, but
Speaker 1: he got there faster than the snap got the Jimmy garoppolo,
Speaker 1: which is unbelievable. You know that you have that go ahead,
Speaker 1: nick I saying that's one of the keys for the
Speaker 1: offensive line using the snap count as a weapon, because
Speaker 1: even if he is in the outside shade of the
Speaker 1: offensive guard, he's lined up to his outside shoulder. It
Speaker 1: is one of the more difficult blocks for centers to make,
Speaker 1: especially if there's any influence that they've seen from watching
Speaker 1: tape before. But man, playing at home, hearing that snap count,
Speaker 1: understanding that you're going to have that instant of burst
Speaker 1: before the defensive line recognizes it. Sometimes being the master
Speaker 1: of the snap count really helps you the most. You know,
Speaker 1: we're talking very specific play right now. This is going
Speaker 1: to be making you happy right now. You you Jay Higan,
Speaker 1: brig Olden Creutz and the fellas talking about center play.
Speaker 1: We love it. You know, it's you know, it's different.
Speaker 1: So we had that block when we are playing for
Speaker 1: the Bears, and so we're playing against the team that
Speaker 1: I knew the defensive line coach really well, and he
Speaker 1: told us he goes, you know, every time you guys
Speaker 1: are in split backs, the center blocks won away, and
Speaker 1: so now that block became so difficult for the center
Speaker 1: to make because every time we were in this one
Speaker 1: backfield formation, the center was blocking one away and it
Speaker 1: became predictable and more difficult for him to make another
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Speaker 1: want to jump out to the final ten minutes or
Speaker 1: at the top of the hour, and we get out
Speaker 1: of here with the NFC North time. Everybody's finished up now,
Speaker 1: obviously with the Packers getting knocked out, how these teams
Speaker 1: now will be looking at the tweak their teams moving forward.
Speaker 1: Certainly a ton of conversation about Aaron Rodgers and what
Speaker 1: he might eat around him. He still feels he's got
Speaker 1: a window to win a Super Bowl, you know, always
Speaker 1: believe that given his own excellence. But we'll go through
Speaker 1: the division a little bit. What are you looking at?
Speaker 1: You know, I think the defense did a nice job
Speaker 1: against Green Bay this year. To me, it's I need
Speaker 1: a scheme to block the talent up front and the
Speaker 1: Packers defense because when you look at the first game
Speaker 1: of the year ten to three, and then you look
Speaker 1: at the fifteenth game of the year or whatever it was,
Speaker 1: the second to last game of the year when they
Speaker 1: play Green Bay, I think Zadarius Smith, Preston Smith, they
Speaker 1: created such a problem for the Bears from the first
Speaker 1: game all the way to that sixteenth game that they
Speaker 1: have to figure out a scheme of how you're going
Speaker 1: to block that front because if Zadarius Smith number fifty
Speaker 1: five is he's gonna move all over the place. You
Speaker 1: have to have the capabilities of switching your protection mid stride.
Speaker 1: And we talk about the value of the tight end
Speaker 1: being a blocker there. He's got to be incorporated in
Speaker 1: the mix. He's got to be a part of it.
Speaker 1: So does your running backs. But to me, if you're
Speaker 1: looking at Green Bay specifically, you got to figure out
Speaker 1: a way to block that pass attack. You shouldn't. They
Speaker 1: have a difficult time stopping the run this pass game,
Speaker 1: so that that will mute it right there and there.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, but you know you think about just all
Speaker 1: right now, you know, and then you bring up David Montgomery,
Speaker 1: you know, because I still have super high expectations for
Speaker 1: David Montgomery within the division. But to me, if if
Speaker 1: you got to think at the start of the season,
Speaker 1: how you're gonna finish, how you're gonna win the division.
Speaker 1: So last year, all the coordinators figure out how are
Speaker 1: they going to take Khalil mac out of the mix,
Speaker 1: and so they all attacked him repeatedly throughout this season.
Speaker 1: And it's the same thing when the Bears are trying
Speaker 1: to figure out a plan to beat the Packers. You know,
Speaker 1: they beat the Minnesota Vikings, they beat the Detroit Lions,
Speaker 1: and although they have assets on those teams, I think
Speaker 1: you have to start at the top figure out how
Speaker 1: to formulate a good plan of attack against the Green
Speaker 1: Bay Packers the next time you play them, along with
Speaker 1: the Vikings, with Detroit of the big passing game. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know that's always the case. What did we see
Speaker 1: it on the second play of the offense game with
Speaker 1: a backup quarterback this year? I think when you look
Speaker 1: at what the the uh, the cornerbacks, what the defense
Speaker 1: has to be capable of doing, they have to get
Speaker 1: pressure on if Matthew Stafford comes back. They have to
Speaker 1: put significant amount of pressure on Matthew Stafford because if
Speaker 1: you look at the big play, the big threat speed
Speaker 1: that Detroit has, that's something that you're gonna have to
Speaker 1: compete with because I don't think Matt Patricia is going
Speaker 1: to take the ball out of Stafford's hands once he
Speaker 1: comes back. You know, he's he's willing to throw it
Speaker 1: as much as any head coach in the National Football League.
Speaker 1: And Daryl Bevil, the offensive coordinator, I think they saw
Speaker 1: positive things from Stafford before he was hurt. There's have
Speaker 1: a handle on Minnesota, but it's it's always going to
Speaker 1: be about staff in their running game. Now. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: know you think about you know, you know, well, what
Speaker 1: are the is Kurt Cousins. He's not under contract anymore.
Speaker 1: I think he's I think he's still off. I think
Speaker 1: he's I don't know if he's still has a contract
Speaker 1: or what they're gonna doing with Kirk Cousins. But when
Speaker 1: he's there, when you look at the running back position there,
Speaker 1: that's the ingredient to their football team because if you
Speaker 1: if you can have a solid running game with the
Speaker 1: type of defense that they can put on the field, boy,
Speaker 1: that I mean, that is a recipe for success. I
Speaker 1: know that didn't work for the Tennessee Titans because you
Speaker 1: have to have the ability to throw the ball. But
Speaker 1: Minnesota they do have the ability to throw the ball
Speaker 1: with their receivers and their tight ends are as good
Speaker 1: as there are in the division. But Dalvin Cook, he is,
Speaker 1: you know, he's as good as running back as there
Speaker 1: is in the division. All Right, let's take it on
Speaker 1: the phone call here before we get out of here.
Speaker 1: Three two sty four sixty seven sixty seven to the
Speaker 1: lines we go, and we got with Lawanda. Welcome to
Speaker 1: the program. Actually is under my wife's name, but okay, hey,
Speaker 1: she's in charge, you know it. Ye yeah, you're all
Speaker 1: the time kind of question for you guys, Okay, thing
Speaker 1: the job era basically, he always he always ran the
Speaker 1: ball because that's just he was an old school coach.
Speaker 1: I understand that, well, we got basically the same altics
Speaker 1: of line and for the most part there and we
Speaker 1: was able to run the ball. So I'm just trying
Speaker 1: to figure out what happened once the coaching change. And
Speaker 1: I know you can answer this because you're an offensive
Speaker 1: guy offered the linement. So I'm just wondering, why is
Speaker 1: it that now when the coaching change, we just can't
Speaker 1: see the run the ball like we used I was wondering.
Speaker 1: You can elaborate on that, you know. I think Jordan
Speaker 1: Howard was one of the assets the Bears did have,
Speaker 1: and when he was in the same system for a
Speaker 1: number of years, he had the innate ability to kind
Speaker 1: of predict and how and where the holes would open
Speaker 1: up according to a blocking scheme that he's seen over
Speaker 1: the years. I think David Montgomery, when you're coming as
Speaker 1: a rookie, you're trying to learn the meaning of the
Speaker 1: terminology and then you're trying to understand the speed of
Speaker 1: the defenses and how that interacts with your offensive line.
Speaker 1: I think it's a process of development. So and that's
Speaker 1: one of the things that we're talking about is I
Speaker 1: have higher expectations for David Montgomery as his career goes on,
Speaker 1: and I think that he can be the running asset
Speaker 1: that Jordan Howard was. But I was a fan of
Speaker 1: Jordan Howard. He was an experienced guy. They probably lost,
Speaker 1: I think they made it. Might have lost a little
Speaker 1: deception when he's on the field because they didn't throw
Speaker 1: to him very much, and that is kind of a setback,
Speaker 1: and they wouldn't got Montgomery, who catches the ball is
Speaker 1: equally as well as any running back out there. So
Speaker 1: it's just gonna be experienced with Montgomery and understanding the
Speaker 1: offense faster. Just like when you hear about a quarterback
Speaker 1: and things slowing down, it's the same thing for a
Speaker 1: running back. Why did you ask me today about Montgomery?
Speaker 1: Earlier today off the air, we were talking about maybe
Speaker 1: some topics for tonight, and you want to know how
Speaker 1: often he was on the field? Right, I went down
Speaker 1: because there was time it was churchdown was the most, Yes,
Speaker 1: but there's times on third down. I was frustrated that
Speaker 1: he wasn't in the game, and with all due respect
Speaker 1: to Tarik Cohen, and he had probably had more reps
Speaker 1: as the third down. I think David Montgomery is a
Speaker 1: really good blocker. He can pick up blitzes and he
Speaker 1: can catch balls at a moment's notice. If you think
Speaker 1: of a running back, they has to sit behind the
Speaker 1: line of scrimmage and help the offensive line provide the
Speaker 1: protection for the quarterback, and then he sneaks beyond the
Speaker 1: line of scrimmage. We started seeing some of those dumps
Speaker 1: beyond the line of scrimmage to David Montgomery a little
Speaker 1: bit later in the year. But how many times throughout
Speaker 1: the course of our lives watching Aaron Rodgers have we
Speaker 1: been haunted by him getting pressure on him, finding the
Speaker 1: running back given it to him at the last second.
Speaker 1: Then a running back makes ten or twelve out of it.
Speaker 1: So to me, David Montgomery is a three down back,
Speaker 1: but I would like to see him used more in
Speaker 1: those third down instances where he can really become a
Speaker 1: matchup threat. And he's twenty two touches on third down.
Speaker 1: That's not in twenty nineteen. But again you get trere Cohen.
Speaker 1: I understand that. To me, Terricohen is more of an
Speaker 1: immediate weapon, an immediate threat when he lines up at
Speaker 1: the line of scrimmag I think that's when you put
Speaker 1: paranoia into his coverage because it starts immediately when you
Speaker 1: think of coverage responsibility from tree call, and when he's
Speaker 1: four or five yards deep in the backfield, the coverage
Speaker 1: doesn't start for eight or nine yards. So to me,
Speaker 1: you know, Montgomery can be more helpful to the blocking
Speaker 1: and he can be just as much of an asset
Speaker 1: and catching the ball. All right, this one, I'm sure
Speaker 1: elicits some passionate conversation from me before we get out
Speaker 1: of here. Tonight here on Chicago Sports Radio six seventy
Speaker 1: to score, I read that there's a feeling out there
Speaker 1: that you can't beat a prolific passing attack. I'm already
Speaker 1: laughing because I know with a prolific running attack. That's
Speaker 1: the biggest foss in the Super Bowl. In the Super Bowl,
Speaker 1: you can't beat a prolific passing attack with a prolific
Speaker 1: running attack. What's your thought? What's your thought? Well, you know,
Speaker 1: I think we probably had an example of that this
Speaker 1: weekend with Tennessee versus Kansas City. In Tennessee did get
Speaker 1: the upper hand, but with Kansas City was never out
Speaker 1: of it. You know, when we are in the Super Bowl,
Speaker 1: they were so determined to take Walter Payton out of
Speaker 1: the game in which they were able to accomplish, but
Speaker 1: it did open up opportunities for your passing game. So
Speaker 1: it's about the quarterback. Can the quarterback become a passing
Speaker 1: quarterback if he's relying on the run. Ryan Tannehill couldn't
Speaker 1: do it, and so when they took the runaway, you
Speaker 1: saw at the inefficient quarterback the results of it. Next
Speaker 1: week I'll be on the show from Miami Super Bowl
Speaker 1: breaking down Jimmy Garoppolo's forty nine ers and Patrick Mahomes
Speaker 1: is Kansas City Chiefs, so I'll coming up. Thanks everybody
Speaker 1: for listening tonight. From Mike Channt, Chris Dickens, our producers,
Speaker 1: I'm Jeff Joniac. That's Tom Thare and this is Chicago
Speaker 1: Sports Radio six seventy the Score. Have a great night
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