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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back into another edition of Bears All Access early

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<v Speaker 1>this week here brought to you by IGS Energy. Jeff

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<v Speaker 1>Jonny at my broadcast partner from news Radio seven eighty

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<v Speaker 1>one oh five point ATFMWBBM. Tom Fair Bears analyst No

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<v Speaker 1>Jim Miller tonight tending to a personal matter as he

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<v Speaker 1>gets ready for, you know, the important part of the

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<v Speaker 1>season here the super Bowl and then the scouting combine,

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<v Speaker 1>so he'll be down there as well. Mobi A BEMA,

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<v Speaker 1>good to have you. Well, I gotta tell you, I

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<v Speaker 1>think what Jeff Jim is getting ready for. I think

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<v Speaker 1>the Senior Ball is more port and then the super

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<v Speaker 1>Bowl because you know, I yeah, it's it's gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>great watching. I think it's gonna be a great game.

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<v Speaker 1>I still live an envy of the guys, the players

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<v Speaker 1>that are having this experience either for more than the

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<v Speaker 1>first time in their life or the first time in

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<v Speaker 1>their life. It's such a special time in the in

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<v Speaker 1>their lives, for their families, lives, for all their surrounding

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<v Speaker 1>support systems that they've grown up with or you know,

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<v Speaker 1>struggle through to get to this point. You're talking about

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<v Speaker 1>Senior Bowl or those who many I've talked about the

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<v Speaker 1>super Bowl guys. See I'm talking about this super Bowl guys,

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<v Speaker 1>because you know the Senior Bowl, you still have so

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<v Speaker 1>much ahead of you. You have the Senior Bowl, you

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<v Speaker 1>have the Combine, you have all the individual visits that

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna make to the teams. You kind of jockey

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<v Speaker 1>for that position where you're kind of eye and everybody

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<v Speaker 1>else when you see him at the Senior Bowl or

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<v Speaker 1>the Combines and seeing how you fit in, and you

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<v Speaker 1>know that's that's a big time in their lives. But

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<v Speaker 1>there's so much uncertainty. Man. The super Bowl. It's it, man,

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<v Speaker 1>it is It's it's the big Well you lived it, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know about anybody you lived it, and you have

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<v Speaker 1>the great appreciation for living it. But you also, again

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<v Speaker 1>I talk about the envy you have ever everybody of

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<v Speaker 1>what they're doing. What if you had never experienced it

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<v Speaker 1>and you played it as long as you did, how

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<v Speaker 1>do you think how would it have changed you mentally

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<v Speaker 1>about your career, about the game, anything like that about

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<v Speaker 1>the game of football. Well, you know, I have a friend,

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<v Speaker 1>Jeff Van Note, who played center for the Atlanta Falcons

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<v Speaker 1>only for eighteen years and I think only made it

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<v Speaker 1>to the playoffs one time in his career. And then

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<v Speaker 1>when we are going through this success we are having,

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<v Speaker 1>he came to Chicago for the playoffs game and he

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<v Speaker 1>was around the Super Bowl, and then you kind of

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<v Speaker 1>got a reflection of seeing an elder statesman in the

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<v Speaker 1>league that's committed his life to play in the NFL

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<v Speaker 1>football that's never been able to achieve the success ultimately

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<v Speaker 1>what every guy plays for. And there I was in

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<v Speaker 1>my first year in the NFL and we're at the

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<v Speaker 1>Super Bowl. So you kind of you gained the appreciation

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<v Speaker 1>for the experience you're going through because of some of

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<v Speaker 1>the guys that have never had the opportunity. Mike Kennon

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<v Speaker 1>was another guy, and Evanston guy from Michigan. Played seventeen

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<v Speaker 1>years left tackle for the Atlanta Falcons. Never made it

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<v Speaker 1>to this. I remember, I remember a pregame show down

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<v Speaker 1>there in Atlanta. We had you, we had Mike Ken,

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<v Speaker 1>we had Bill Freylick, we had some other guys offensive lineman.

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<v Speaker 1>In one interview at one time in a pregame show,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think this topic came up. I mean it's

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<v Speaker 1>you know, look at Dan Marino. Yeah, this is a

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<v Speaker 1>great comparison for Patrick Mahomes right now in Kansas City.

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<v Speaker 1>He gets in there at such a tender age. Second year,

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<v Speaker 1>never went back. You know, It's the same thing with me.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I was twenty three or twenty four. We

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<v Speaker 1>had the youngest team in the NFL. So he kind

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<v Speaker 1>of walked out there as a four gone conclusion. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll see you next year. All we'll see in two years.

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<v Speaker 1>And we are luckily, luckily enough, we did get to

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<v Speaker 1>the NFC Championship Game. He got beat by San Francisco

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<v Speaker 1>forty nine ers at home, probably the worst and the

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<v Speaker 1>hardest loss to take of any loss ever in the

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<v Speaker 1>history of my career, and the worst losses of getting

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<v Speaker 1>beat by USC four times in my college career, that's

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<v Speaker 1>the worst. But losing the NFC Championship game is why why?

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<v Speaker 1>Why that one stings more? The NFC Championship game, Oh man,

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<v Speaker 1>because we are ripe, We're ready, We're gonna We're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>go and beat the Cincinnati Bengals. We you know, we

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<v Speaker 1>had a good football team. Um, you know we had

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<v Speaker 1>we had a good performance after coming off a bad

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<v Speaker 1>year the year before. And you know, there you are,

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<v Speaker 1>You're one win away at home in the worst weather

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<v Speaker 1>you could possibly have and it's all this bear weather

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<v Speaker 1>thing that's being and then San Francisco comes in and

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<v Speaker 1>they beat you at home. It's it's the most devastating loss.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, you can see how it still sits

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<v Speaker 1>with all cover that game on never forgetting myself. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>coming up next on Bears All Access, we'll be joined

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<v Speaker 1>by brand new tight Ends coach Clancy Barroni from the

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<v Speaker 1>Bears coaching staff that Manhangy has put together for twenty twenty.

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<v Speaker 1>It's on just a hit here on Bears All Access

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<v Speaker 1>Broadcast crew here from the Bears on WBBM. Jeff Joni

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<v Speaker 1>back in time. There No Jim Miller tonights. We'll get

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<v Speaker 1>back to him next weeking very pleased to be welcome

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<v Speaker 1>now by the new tight Ends coach of the Chicago Bears,

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<v Speaker 1>Clancy Baruni. Clancy, thanks for taking some time out. How

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<v Speaker 1>are you doing tonight? I'm doing great, guys. Things out there?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh pretty cold? Pretty cold? Well? You are you in Nevada?

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<v Speaker 1>I am, yeah, I'm right outside of Vegas. This is

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<v Speaker 1>where my home is year round. So okay, well you

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<v Speaker 1>got a little warmer there. You'll get you'll you'll get

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<v Speaker 1>back here and get you You'll know what it's all like.

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<v Speaker 1>You've been, You've been around the Midwest. Um, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>going through you know, your your career is really another

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<v Speaker 1>indication of what assistant coaches, over the course of their

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<v Speaker 1>or their life in football have to endure in many

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<v Speaker 1>cases and thrive in as well. Seventh, this is your

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<v Speaker 1>seventeenth job with your thirteenth different team, going back to college,

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<v Speaker 1>not just NFL, but going back to college. I heck

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<v Speaker 1>you do that? How do you do it? What's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of why I have a permanent home? You know, my

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<v Speaker 1>my wife and I have purchase and sold homes I

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<v Speaker 1>want to say, like eleven different states something like that,

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<v Speaker 1>and so after a while, it just makes tess to

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<v Speaker 1>have home base. And that's why we chose our little

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<v Speaker 1>place out here by by Vegas. It's the great weather

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<v Speaker 1>and so forth. But you know, I guess to your point, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>it is that is kind of the gig that you're

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<v Speaker 1>that you're signing up for and and hopefully you can

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<v Speaker 1>get someplace and stick for a while. You know, my

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<v Speaker 1>my longest stand was in Denver. I was there for

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<v Speaker 1>eight years, which is that's like that's like two lifetimes

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<v Speaker 1>as a football coach. Hey, classy, this top there, former

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<v Speaker 1>offensive lineman and going. So I was involved in Super

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<v Speaker 1>Bowl twenty. You were involved in So you've been involved

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<v Speaker 1>in two super Bowl Super Bowl fifty to win? Do

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<v Speaker 1>you so? During this time are you a football fan

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<v Speaker 1>of the Super Bowl? Because I like the game, but

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<v Speaker 1>the aftermath I'm so envious of because I know the

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<v Speaker 1>commitment and the fun they're having because of their commitment.

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<v Speaker 1>How do you feel about this time of year in football?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, Tom, probably probably the same as you. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>and I get it. I I you know, the grind

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<v Speaker 1>that that you go through and that you're that your

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<v Speaker 1>families go through, and the players and the coaches, and

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<v Speaker 1>I know, how about about this time you kind of

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<v Speaker 1>get that second or by now that that third win

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<v Speaker 1>because of what's at stake. Um, you know, unlike yourself,

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<v Speaker 1>I've also lost a Super Bowl. And so when you

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<v Speaker 1>would think about all the all the stuff that you

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<v Speaker 1>put into it, and then you get there and things

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<v Speaker 1>don't go your way, that's that that might be one

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<v Speaker 1>of the worst feelings I've ever I've ever had as

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<v Speaker 1>a professional. But obviously, uh, you know, you're right that

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<v Speaker 1>that when you do win that and all all the

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<v Speaker 1>stuff's coming down, all the confetti and here comes a

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<v Speaker 1>trophy and things like that, there's really nothing else quite

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<v Speaker 1>quite like that. It's a great conversation about this over

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<v Speaker 1>the years with people in my business. I'm i sad

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<v Speaker 1>offense and just fans in general. You know, the whole

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<v Speaker 1>idea of losing a Super Bowl hurts so badly that

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<v Speaker 1>some have told me many times they'd rather not go,

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<v Speaker 1>you know they're going to lose, or if they go,

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<v Speaker 1>because it's the pain is just too great to overcome.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, as a team that overcomes that obstacle,

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<v Speaker 1>it is very difficult then to follow that up with

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<v Speaker 1>a really good season in many, many cases, certainly in

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<v Speaker 1>recent vintage. So that the mental and the spiritual impact

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<v Speaker 1>on a team, a person, a quarterback, or a unit

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever how it all unfolds is really something that

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't get enough attention. I think. I think there's more

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<v Speaker 1>to it than that clancy. No, you're right, and the

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<v Speaker 1>thing that really no one talks about is you really

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<v Speaker 1>have no off season. I mean, you're you're playing up

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<v Speaker 1>until February and then all of a sudden, everything kind

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<v Speaker 1>of hits you right in the face. As a coaching staff,

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<v Speaker 1>whether you win or lose, you're right back in there

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<v Speaker 1>the next weekend. You have to look at pre agents

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<v Speaker 1>and so forth. You have to try to get caught

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<v Speaker 1>up on the draft and that type of thing. As

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<v Speaker 1>a player, you know, if there is any where if

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<v Speaker 1>you have to go in and get get something kind

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<v Speaker 1>of tuned up during the off season, get a scope

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<v Speaker 1>here there or whatever else. Now your time has just

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<v Speaker 1>gotten shorter to get that you know, fully healed and

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<v Speaker 1>so forth. So you know, I'm just amazed at people

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<v Speaker 1>like the Patriots who seem to do it year in

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<v Speaker 1>and year out where they have a very short offseason,

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<v Speaker 1>but it does seem to work for them. I think

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<v Speaker 1>there's a certain mindset you have to have going into it.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we've all witnessed the teams who've had that

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<v Speaker 1>that hangover, so to speak, when they get there, whether

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<v Speaker 1>they lose or not, they get there and they're not

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<v Speaker 1>really sure how to handle that to shortened offseason, either

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<v Speaker 1>as a player or as a coach. You know you're

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<v Speaker 1>going to have a short offseason because you got so

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<v Speaker 1>much on your plate in terms of learning the terminology

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<v Speaker 1>in the offense. But you know, I was watching a

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<v Speaker 1>micd Up segment with you during an OTAs of one

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<v Speaker 1>of your last stops. You bring a lot of energy

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<v Speaker 1>to OTAs. So when you get, you know, in front

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<v Speaker 1>of the players the first time in OTAs, what do

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<v Speaker 1>you like to accomplish Because you're not going to be

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<v Speaker 1>in pads, you're not going to be able to do

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of the drills that you're going to have

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<v Speaker 1>access to in training camp, So what will be your

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<v Speaker 1>approach in OTAs well. The thing is is that I've

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<v Speaker 1>always kind of prided myself and being a teacher first,

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<v Speaker 1>and so part of it is you have to have

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<v Speaker 1>to learn it first. I can teach it. And right

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<v Speaker 1>now I'm trying to learn a foreign language. As anyone

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<v Speaker 1>who's ever switched teams, either as a player or as

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<v Speaker 1>a coach, they be able to get that. So once

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<v Speaker 1>I get that foreign language down and I can, I

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<v Speaker 1>can teach it. That's always the part of the job

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<v Speaker 1>that I really loved the most is when you when

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<v Speaker 1>you get the guys in there and you can you

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<v Speaker 1>can teach them maybe new ways to look at at

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<v Speaker 1>certain techniques or at certain schemes jone and this occase

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<v Speaker 1>you no coach in the tight ends, ways to run

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<v Speaker 1>certain routes versus certain coverages, ways to block certain plays

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<v Speaker 1>versus certain fronts, and so on, and too me, I

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<v Speaker 1>think I think that's that's that's always fun. Now it

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<v Speaker 1>isn't like back in the day, you know, back when,

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<v Speaker 1>back when Tom was playing, and obviously spring time was

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit more involved and so forth. Now it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's a little bit different, so there is more time

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<v Speaker 1>on task trying to teach and not have the players

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<v Speaker 1>go through the whole physical part of it, you know, classy.

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<v Speaker 1>The tight end position itself is pretty amazing because throughout

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<v Speaker 1>your time in the NFL there's probably been more change

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<v Speaker 1>of the tight end position because of the U tight end,

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<v Speaker 1>the the on the line of scrimmage tight end, the

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<v Speaker 1>h back tight end, the full back tight end. So

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<v Speaker 1>when you're talking about learning an offense, you're taught you

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<v Speaker 1>got to learn every single aspect of all the moving

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<v Speaker 1>parts of the offense because the tight end is so

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<v Speaker 1>versatile these days. You know, you're right, And I think

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<v Speaker 1>with my background, you know, and you touched on earlier

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<v Speaker 1>about you know, going back into college ball where I

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<v Speaker 1>was a coordinator where you have to kind of understand

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<v Speaker 1>everything obviously, but also in the National Football League, haven't

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<v Speaker 1>spent time as a as a line coach as well,

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<v Speaker 1>where you're you're totally engrossing everything from what the your

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<v Speaker 1>running back does and what the quarterback looks at and

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<v Speaker 1>so forth. That has really helped me as a a

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<v Speaker 1>tight ends coach. But I think that we have seen

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<v Speaker 1>it and going back to when I was with the Falcons,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, seventeen see whatever is years ago, and I

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<v Speaker 1>had a guy named Algie Crumpler who has maybe one

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<v Speaker 1>of the best point point of attack tight ends as

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<v Speaker 1>far as blocking, but who's also a great third down

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<v Speaker 1>tight end, a great red zone tight end, led our

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<v Speaker 1>team in receptions and touchdowns two years in a row.

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<v Speaker 1>But that position has evolved so much since then. Now

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<v Speaker 1>you're getting a lot of guys who are who are

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<v Speaker 1>former basketball players, who are former quarterbacks, who couldn't quite

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<v Speaker 1>make the grade in college playing quarterback, so they so

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<v Speaker 1>they became tight ends and so forth. So part of

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<v Speaker 1>it is also trying to restructure how they see the

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<v Speaker 1>game and how they view their role. Clancy brouni Our

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<v Speaker 1>guest here on Chicago Sports Radio six seventy the Score.

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<v Speaker 1>This is Bears All Access, brought to you by IGS Energy,

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<v Speaker 1>the new tight ends coach of the Bears. You mentioned, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>there's two points I want to wake one. Clancy, did

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<v Speaker 1>you get a good chuckle out of top there and

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<v Speaker 1>used some cell former offensive lineman. Don't you love that?

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<v Speaker 1>That is typical offensive lineman. Yeah, there's something about, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the whole moxy of that of that position. He's part

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<v Speaker 1>of the eighty five Bears. He's got a ramming Mike Gosh.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know, right off to him. Yeah, he's

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<v Speaker 1>got billboard, he's got photos, he's got posters, and he's

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<v Speaker 1>got a red clancy. If you can see him right now.

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<v Speaker 1>He is beat red right now because he hates that attention,

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<v Speaker 1>like all good offensive lineman. But I want to mention

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<v Speaker 1>I think I think I was in eighth grade when

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<v Speaker 1>when I was watching him place, I was a huge fan.

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<v Speaker 1>There you go, and to that end, you know, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you mentioned the tight end position in Atlanta, and if

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not mistaken, that is the first legitimate time or

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<v Speaker 1>at least by by name and title, that you were

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<v Speaker 1>a tight ends coach. And that was under Jim Morrige. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>exactly right, Yes, yes, So what we're talking all about

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<v Speaker 1>these different positions, we're talking about, you know, pass catching

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<v Speaker 1>tight positions. In most cases Tom mentioned h back, you

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<v Speaker 1>the tight end that likes to put his hand in

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<v Speaker 1>the ground and drive somebody off the ball. I I

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<v Speaker 1>forgot to write the kid's name down today from the

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<v Speaker 1>senior ball. He's doing interviews and he says, my biggest

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<v Speaker 1>thrill is not catching the pass. It's putting another guy

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<v Speaker 1>on his back. And don't you love that mindset too

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<v Speaker 1>from a tight end? Yeah, that's that is that is

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<v Speaker 1>very new. I mean, it's it's it's kind of strange

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<v Speaker 1>these days. And usually those guys come from Iowa, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think coach Parence is a great job down

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<v Speaker 1>there with those guys, you know. But yeah, and they

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<v Speaker 1>have a guy who doesn't care who gets the credit

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<v Speaker 1>as long as as as as removing the chains and

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<v Speaker 1>scoring points. That's that is that is kind of cool.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, when you think about algae down in Atlanta. Initially,

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<v Speaker 1>is the eye test for the tight ends still the

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<v Speaker 1>same because you think of what his size and his

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<v Speaker 1>stature was, But then when you got to move them

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<v Speaker 1>to a full back or h back or move them

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit. Has has the the eye test changed

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit over the years or is it still consistent?

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<v Speaker 1>You're looking for the biggest and best athlete you can find,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I guess, uh, man, I guess you have

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<v Speaker 1>to try to answer your question that being to two wishywashy.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I think a lot of it depends on

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<v Speaker 1>your own offensive scheme and if you're going to have

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<v Speaker 1>a guy who's going to be a guy that that

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<v Speaker 1>there runs the seam. You got this, you know, six

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<v Speaker 1>foot six, two hundred forty five two hundred fifty on

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<v Speaker 1>tight end who's just athletic and a former basketball player

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<v Speaker 1>and just like a real freak athlete. You're probably not

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<v Speaker 1>going to ask that guy to get back in behind

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<v Speaker 1>the quarterback in a three point stance and try to

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<v Speaker 1>go isoblock a six two linebacker. You know he'll he'll

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<v Speaker 1>lose that the leverage battle almost every time. So I

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<v Speaker 1>think you have to look at, you know, what does

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<v Speaker 1>your offense want from that position. And that's also why

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<v Speaker 1>you would tend to have about three tight ends up

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<v Speaker 1>on the game day and one guy can kind of

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<v Speaker 1>answers this, one guy answers that you and kind of

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<v Speaker 1>scritch war scratch where it is just so to speak

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<v Speaker 1>with all with all three different guys. Clancy Broni, our

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<v Speaker 1>guest here on Bears All Access. Uh, You, like a player,

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<v Speaker 1>you have to deal with what's coming at you. And

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<v Speaker 1>in your last stop of the Minnesota Vikings, Uh, you

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<v Speaker 1>endured what had to be an unthinkable scenario with the

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<v Speaker 1>death of Vikings offensive line coach Tony Sperrano and then

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<v Speaker 1>that moved you into that role on offensive line. What

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<v Speaker 1>was that like in retrospect now that you've had time

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<v Speaker 1>to deal with that, think about that and what that

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<v Speaker 1>did for that team. Well, you know, I guess to

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<v Speaker 1>be fair, when I came in and Pat Shermer was

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<v Speaker 1>was the coordinator when I come in. You know, Tony

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<v Speaker 1>it had some episodes with his health. After in the

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<v Speaker 1>A twenty sixteen season, I was still back in Denver,

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<v Speaker 1>and so uh, part of what of what brought me

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<v Speaker 1>here was Pat said, you know, I'd like to have

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<v Speaker 1>a guy that has some some old line background to

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<v Speaker 1>come coach to tight ends because if Tony has to

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<v Speaker 1>has to take a knee for a week or two,

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<v Speaker 1>then you can slide over and take that that job

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<v Speaker 1>over until he's well and can come back. Obviously, it

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<v Speaker 1>was it ended up way way worse than that when

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<v Speaker 1>when Tony passed in the summer of twenty eighteen, UM,

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<v Speaker 1>and so yeah, I was. I was thrilled to get

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<v Speaker 1>back with the offensive line, but obviously under you know

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<v Speaker 1>what that type of thing happened, and that was that

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<v Speaker 1>was horrible for Tony first, you know, for his family

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<v Speaker 1>and for all of us who worked with Tony and

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<v Speaker 1>loved him so much. A lot of coaches out there

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<v Speaker 1>do get some breaks at times, and how did you

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<v Speaker 1>deal with yours in twenty nineteen to get yourself mentally

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<v Speaker 1>ready for the next challenge. I'll tell you what, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's a blessing. And probably very few people know the story.

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<v Speaker 1>My mom is eighty three, she's eighty four now, and

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<v Speaker 1>she'd had some some very serious medical conditions and it

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<v Speaker 1>was it was the night before we played the Bears

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<v Speaker 1>in week seventeen of twenty eighteen, and my mom had

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<v Speaker 1>a six hour brain surgery and thinking about that at

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<v Speaker 1>that age and to be under for six hours and

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<v Speaker 1>to have, you know, pretty involved brain surgery, and so

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<v Speaker 1>at the time, you know, we're kind of rebanned from

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<v Speaker 1>the staff and there there's a lot of changes and

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<v Speaker 1>so forth. So I had had an opportunity to kind

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<v Speaker 1>of step away from football for a while, go back

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<v Speaker 1>out to California and really be there with mom and

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<v Speaker 1>help her have the best, you know, the best fourth

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<v Speaker 1>quarter of her life, so to speak. And I was

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<v Speaker 1>there with her when when she was going through speech

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<v Speaker 1>therapy and physical therapy and she's up and walking and

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<v Speaker 1>talking again. And uh, and I was just talking to

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<v Speaker 1>her today. She is living the best life she's had

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<v Speaker 1>in many, many years. She's back living on her own

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<v Speaker 1>in the old in the old homestead and everything and

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<v Speaker 1>just doing great. So I feel very blessed I had

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<v Speaker 1>a chance to actually go home and do that. I

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<v Speaker 1>know that. Um, when when my dad got sick, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty seven years ago, I saw dad, I want to say,

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<v Speaker 1>two days out of the last six months of his life,

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<v Speaker 1>and that was that was hard to handle. That was

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<v Speaker 1>that was really tough. And so I when I had

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<v Speaker 1>this chance to go back in and be with mom,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, God willing things turned out the way

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<v Speaker 1>they did. You know, I just felt very fortunate. And

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<v Speaker 1>they're very blessed to have that chance to do that. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>it's an unbelievable story. Well got well, and she's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>watch him become a Bears fan. Make sure you get

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<v Speaker 1>her at jar. Absolutely yes, yes, absolutely, well Clancy, will

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<v Speaker 1>let you go. Thanks so much for taking some time

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<v Speaker 1>to look forward to meeting you. Thank you, Clancy. All right, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>Clancy Brown, Bears new tight ends coach. We'll take a break.

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<v Speaker 1>here on Chicago Sports Radio six seventy The Score. Just

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<v Speaker 1>got off the phone with Clancy Barroni, the Bears tight

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<v Speaker 1>end coach, impressively. Yeah, you know, I think in the

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<v Speaker 1>last two weeks of talking the new offensive line coach,

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<v Speaker 1>Juan Castillo and now Clancy Baroni, the tight ends coach,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of experience in between those two guys,

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<v Speaker 1>and so I think when you see the morph and

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<v Speaker 1>the changes of offensive systems and schemes throughout the NFL,

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<v Speaker 1>and you've been around the NFL, you know, for fifteen, seventeen,

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen years, like the two of them have been, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty four for Juan Castile, you know, there's gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of experience that hopefully he's going to cultivate

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<v Speaker 1>some young talent up there, because you know, they're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>have to make position adjustments, they're gonna have to find

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<v Speaker 1>the right people for the job, and then they're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>have to get it ready for some hard work. And

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's interesting. We can't get into you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the dudes and the wise and the winds and the

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<v Speaker 1>house yet because these guys are, like he said, he's

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<v Speaker 1>still learning it. Yeah, it is. It's like learning, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>And I try to say that the people. It's like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Okay, you're gonna move to France in two

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<v Speaker 1>and a half months and you've got to speak French

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<v Speaker 1>fluently by the time you get there. You have to

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<v Speaker 1>understand what you're saying and understand what's being you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you know that that's true from a player.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, one of the first players to ever explained

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<v Speaker 1>that to me in the more modern change of football

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<v Speaker 1>is Ricky Prole all the time, you say, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you're learning Chinese, right. And for coaches, since they've been

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<v Speaker 1>exposed to so many systems, and he's worked with Jim

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<v Speaker 1>Morri Junior, he's got all those college coaches, he's worked

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<v Speaker 1>with North Turner, worked with Josh McDaniels on his staff,

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<v Speaker 1>John Fox, Mike Zimmer. I mean, as a whole lot

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<v Speaker 1>of different types of personality, schemes and so forth, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, and as much as they don't they

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I remember when Adam Gase was here, and

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<v Speaker 1>you're looking at the terminology that Adam Gaze had for

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<v Speaker 1>this offense. And then Adam Gaze leaves, they bring in

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<v Speaker 1>doll loggins, and so I asked him, I said, are

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<v Speaker 1>you going to change the terminology outside of what was

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<v Speaker 1>being taught by Adam Gay so things can so the

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<v Speaker 1>learning curve can be expedited. And he said, oh no,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to change him. Then I went in

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<v Speaker 1>next the next year reading the terminology that he's using.

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<v Speaker 1>It's different than Adam Gaze's. So I think every time

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<v Speaker 1>someone gets hired into a position of offensive authority, they

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<v Speaker 1>want to bring along their own language to help out,

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<v Speaker 1>to help out their plan and kind of you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I you know, put themselves in their in their own kaku.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you have to learn much, you know, I know,

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<v Speaker 1>aside from going down in Miami for that one year.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, you mean you always you know, kind of

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<v Speaker 1>Luckily in the Chicago we are in the same system,

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<v Speaker 1>so we got it became so repetitive. You never you

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<v Speaker 1>didn't have to sit and even though we did sit

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<v Speaker 1>meetings for three hours every night, it was just repeated information.

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<v Speaker 1>But it was more for the new guys to learn

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<v Speaker 1>and then when you go down and you change teams.

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<v Speaker 1>In the middle of the year, Steve de Burgh and

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<v Speaker 1>I came to came to the Miami Dolphins the same day.

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<v Speaker 1>He was the quarterback. Guy was an offensive lineman. And

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<v Speaker 1>all you do is you investigate every single waking second

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<v Speaker 1>outside of practice, learning the information so when you are

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<v Speaker 1>in uniform you can be called upon. And so I

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<v Speaker 1>remember remember Steve de Berg sitting there all night just

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<v Speaker 1>learning the terminology, learning the plays, learning the routes, and

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<v Speaker 1>absorb so much information that he was able to play

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<v Speaker 1>within a week's time. It was the most amazing thing

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<v Speaker 1>to watch a quarterback. But now an offensive line play,

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<v Speaker 1>you're dealing with adjustments on the defense, but you're also

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<v Speaker 1>dealing with four other offensive lineman, the tight end and

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<v Speaker 1>the fullback, along with all your blocking schemes. So you're

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<v Speaker 1>learning it differently. But you have you know, obviously you

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<v Speaker 1>don't have as much materially to learn as a quarterback,

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<v Speaker 1>but you still have to learn everything perfectly. System scheme yes,

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<v Speaker 1>fundamentals then that's that's just a learned behavior from repetition.

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<v Speaker 1>The scheme, yes, but the fundamentals that are taught within

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<v Speaker 1>the scheme. Any position coach can teach those Any position

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<v Speaker 1>coach can teach any funding the fundamentals of their position. Yes, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so that's the stuff that you know is the most important.

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<v Speaker 1>With Clancy Browne. I went back and I was watching

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<v Speaker 1>this micd ups. I was the Denver Broncos with the

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<v Speaker 1>Denver Broncos, and you heard the coaching points that they

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<v Speaker 1>just they constantly come out. You know, once a coach

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<v Speaker 1>gets on the field, whether it's Dick Stanfeld bringing our

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<v Speaker 1>offensive line out about twenty minutes before practice to go

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<v Speaker 1>through some little individual things, or in the midst of

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<v Speaker 1>practice or OTAs, the coaching never stops. There is something

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<v Speaker 1>that's being told to you. And you better be patient

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<v Speaker 1>as a player to be able to accept every coaching

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<v Speaker 1>point that they're telling you against any circumstances that you're

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<v Speaker 1>going to face, because alls they're trying to do is

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<v Speaker 1>help you become a smarter, better player. All right. News

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<v Speaker 1>of the day, Clail Mac has somewhat of an injured situation,

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<v Speaker 1>so undisclosed injuries, so not going to be in the

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<v Speaker 1>Pro Bowl. I'm sure it's not a big deal. DC.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't care. I just you know, the Pro Bowl

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<v Speaker 1>is what it is. I'm glad for the guys that

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<v Speaker 1>do get the thrill of experiencing it, but it certainly

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<v Speaker 1>is different. Eddie Jackson and Cordello patterns would be in

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<v Speaker 1>some skills competition as part of those festivities. In Kyle

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<v Speaker 1>Full they're aboard as well, and some rule changes getting attention.

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<v Speaker 1>These are things that their tryouts basically to see how

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<v Speaker 1>the competition committee and the rules committee might discuss it

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<v Speaker 1>at the owners meetings, you know, after the after the season, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I was reading some of them, think, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's just hard to you know, again we're purist.

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<v Speaker 1>It's hard to see rule changes, whether it's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>trying to think of a different way to keep the

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<v Speaker 1>onsite kick out of the game, which to me, it's

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<v Speaker 1>still one of the most anticipated exciting plays in football,

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't think that changing it to fourth and fifteen.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, So what are you gonna do. Put a

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<v Speaker 1>wide receiver that's guaranteed one on one coverage, throw them

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<v Speaker 1>the ball and hope for an interference call. So you

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<v Speaker 1>have a better chance of trying to get an interference

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<v Speaker 1>call than you do of trying to win the battle

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<v Speaker 1>for an outside kick, and I think it's silliness myself.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't I don't like messing around of the game.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, with the debut of the XFL or

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<v Speaker 1>the redbut of the XFL, you wonder if things that

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<v Speaker 1>become popular to the fan and maybe to a certain

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<v Speaker 1>selection of players when they go crazy again social media

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<v Speaker 1>watching it, that these are things that will get discussed

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<v Speaker 1>along the way. Else, if you have trial and error,

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<v Speaker 1>if you have examples of it, if you have a

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<v Speaker 1>season long you know, um, you know, kind of rule

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<v Speaker 1>change option experiment, maybe it gives you a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>better understanding of it. Just to do things right in

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<v Speaker 1>mid stride where guys have never been a part of

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<v Speaker 1>it before. I think it's kind of silly. So like

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<v Speaker 1>last year that you guys made fun of me of

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<v Speaker 1>wanting to watch the AAF, I'm excited to watch it.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't make fun of you. I was just intrigued

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<v Speaker 1>by how much conversation you brought from it. You were

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<v Speaker 1>you were You were looking for kickers, is what you

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<v Speaker 1>were doing. I was looking for kickers and the one

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<v Speaker 1>I picked did come to the Bears, but he didn't

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<v Speaker 1>make the team. Okay, so what are you gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>looking for from the XFL you'll be watching. I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>looking for desirable competition. Because I was talking to a

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<v Speaker 1>guy that played in my high school, Tie Isaac, super

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<v Speaker 1>successful high school running back, went on to play at

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<v Speaker 1>USC in Michigan. And here's a kid that I see

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<v Speaker 1>him working out at the gym down and Joliet, and

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<v Speaker 1>he's physically gifted kid, and he's got more desire to

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<v Speaker 1>play football than a lot of people that I would

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<v Speaker 1>that I was playing with when I was playing. I

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<v Speaker 1>see guys out there that they want their opportunity, they

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<v Speaker 1>want a chance, they want a chance to be able

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<v Speaker 1>to be able to succeed. It's like all the conversation

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<v Speaker 1>with the kid, and saff is just going to say

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<v Speaker 1>every kid that wants it is now A huge fan

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<v Speaker 1>of Raheem Moster. And you know what too is he

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<v Speaker 1>was with the Bears in twenty sixteen, right, he was,

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<v Speaker 1>and he had a reputation of not being not securing

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<v Speaker 1>the football, had some kind of fundamental He's a good

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<v Speaker 1>special teams player though, yes, but they brought him in

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<v Speaker 1>here to be a running back. And so I think

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think it's all the other five teams that

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<v Speaker 1>passed on him there at fault. It's just that if

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<v Speaker 1>there's talent out there, you're going to investigate it to

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<v Speaker 1>see if it fits into your plan. And unfortunately at

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<v Speaker 1>that point he did it. But look how long it

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<v Speaker 1>took him to succeed. The right opportunity, right system, right coach,

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<v Speaker 1>right whatever, right right in there in front of you. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>what was going through your mind when he put up

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<v Speaker 1>to twenty and four touchdowns? You know, I remember Tim Smith,

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<v Speaker 1>they're running back for the Washington Redskins and the Super

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<v Speaker 1>Bowl he had over two hundred yards rushing him. Then

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<v Speaker 1>he was never heard from again, and it's kind of amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not what you did? What are you going to

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<v Speaker 1>do with it? And so I still I hope for

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<v Speaker 1>the best for this young guy. But again, his determination

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<v Speaker 1>must be unlike a lot of others that didn't get

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<v Speaker 1>discouraged to start thinking, hey man, I should not be

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<v Speaker 1>involved in this anymore. What am I gonna do next? Man?

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, once you're a football player, you can't have

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<v Speaker 1>a second option. It's got to be your one option,

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<v Speaker 1>and you've got to do it till your successful outstanding

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<v Speaker 1>gunner as well or He mostered the talk of the

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<v Speaker 1>San Francisco forty nine ers and their win as they

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<v Speaker 1>set up Super Bowl fifty four. We'll talk about that

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit, get into more unto the Bears here

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<v Speaker 1>with Tom There. I'm Jeff Joniac on Chicago Sports Radio

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<v Speaker 1>six seventy the Score. Jeff Joniac, Tom there with you

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<v Speaker 1>with Mike Chen and Chris Dickens are producers. Welcome into

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<v Speaker 1>Bears All Access here in Chicago Sports Radio seventy the Score.

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<v Speaker 1>I think everybody calls him charl Dickens. Probably, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know he got a nickname, Mike. No, not that he's

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<v Speaker 1>aware of. Okay, good to have you alongside a little

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<v Speaker 1>more than twenty some minutes to go here before the

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<v Speaker 1>top of the hour, brought to you by IGS Energy.

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<v Speaker 1>Tom throwing my way some questions in the break, he's

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<v Speaker 1>watching Patrick Mahomes and his lightning touchdown of note that's

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<v Speaker 1>getting everyone's attention, but the tackling was pretty poor on

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<v Speaker 1>that one. It's just I'm sorry you're not giving him

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<v Speaker 1>credit for making the run or just no, I am

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<v Speaker 1>I Hey, he did the results speak for themselves. However,

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<v Speaker 1>if this was a regular season game and I was

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<v Speaker 1>watching the approach of the tacklers that we're getting able to.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, how often do you get a chance to

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<v Speaker 1>jack up a quarterback? I mean, once he turns into

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<v Speaker 1>a runner, it should be your total emphasis to leave.

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<v Speaker 1>And I mean this innocently. I don't mean it mean,

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<v Speaker 1>but leave scars. You gotta jack him up. You gotta

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<v Speaker 1>take all of your momentum, and you gotta get low,

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<v Speaker 1>and you gotta light that guy up. And you just

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<v Speaker 1>don't have the luxury anymore. It used to bother me

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<v Speaker 1>when Brett Farve would scramble against the Bears and or

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<v Speaker 1>else go and try to block on a reverse or something.

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<v Speaker 1>As soon as he became a blocker, it would be

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<v Speaker 1>forearmed to chim, hey, we'll take some phone calls in

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<v Speaker 1>these final twenty minutes or so, if you so desire.

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<v Speaker 1>Three one two sixty four, sixty seven, sixty seven, sixty

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<v Speaker 1>four four sixty seven, sixty seven. Here on Chicago Sports

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<v Speaker 1>Radio six seventy the score, Jeff, Joniak and Tom there.

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<v Speaker 1>Before we get into more on the Super Bowl. I

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<v Speaker 1>saw this was a quote from Kyle Shanahan. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>long quote, but it involves the center position and the

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<v Speaker 1>quote basically says to get into certain personnel groupings to

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<v Speaker 1>help someone have an angle, say on a mic linebacker,

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<v Speaker 1>middle linebacker, so you can help your center out with

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<v Speaker 1>the guard. Sometimes they go into a one back. Now

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<v Speaker 1>the weak side linebacker asked to walk outside the box,

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<v Speaker 1>and the angles to the mic aren't as good. But

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<v Speaker 1>you got a center can get there on his own,

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't need to help. It allows you to do a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of different stuff to paraphrase and go on. He says,

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<v Speaker 1>there are a lot of good players that position, but

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<v Speaker 1>when you have a difference maker at that position, he's

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<v Speaker 1>found in his career that it's been a lot easier

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<v Speaker 1>to run an offense. Do you see the truth in

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<v Speaker 1>what Kyle Shannan's talking about. I think great is great.

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<v Speaker 1>I think if you're a great center, then we've had

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<v Speaker 1>the luxury or here of watching decades of centers between

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<v Speaker 1>Hilgi and Olan Cruz. You think of Kelsey and Philadelphia,

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<v Speaker 1>you think of the great centers along the way. They

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<v Speaker 1>can do things individually that maybe getting to the second level.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't need the guard to help them. But I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think there's anything more beneficial than making sure that

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<v Speaker 1>you're getting movement on the line of scrimmage to get

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<v Speaker 1>up to that second level. And if it takes a

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<v Speaker 1>center and guard to do that better, then you know

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's the way you get the job done in

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<v Speaker 1>you know what. You know the bodies aren't always getting

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<v Speaker 1>bigger on the defensive line. Sometimes you know, you got

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<v Speaker 1>guys like Aaron Donald that they have such superior quickness,

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<v Speaker 1>you better limit the space that they can be superior

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<v Speaker 1>and have two bodies work and shoulder the shoulder. When

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<v Speaker 1>offensive lineman double team, they should never touch each other.

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<v Speaker 1>They should both be making contact with the defensive lineman first.

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<v Speaker 1>So I just think it's it's how talented of a

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<v Speaker 1>player do you have. Do you anticipate the offensive line

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<v Speaker 1>in terms outside of new personnel coming in, The current

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<v Speaker 1>players where they're at as the season ended, might stay

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<v Speaker 1>in those positions or not. You know, I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be interesting for Wanca Stello and Clarence Baroni to

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<v Speaker 1>look at tape of how the offensive line work together,

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<v Speaker 1>because I still think Rashad Coward is probably playing out

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<v Speaker 1>a position at offensive guard. He could go and probably

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<v Speaker 1>be a solid offensive tackle. I think the Alex bars

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<v Speaker 1>from Notre Dame. I think he's unique and he's got

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<v Speaker 1>to experience had multiple positions, So I think during training camp, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna have the starting five offensive lineman going out there,

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<v Speaker 1>but you do want to have, you know, great competition

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<v Speaker 1>behind these guys to make sure that no one has

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<v Speaker 1>you know, has a job already that it's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be competed for. And I think if you have an

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<v Speaker 1>Alex Bars, you mean you have a Rashad Coward. I

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<v Speaker 1>can play at the positions they're most comfortable, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think you provide competition. But I do think when they

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<v Speaker 1>line up the first days at OTAs, they will be

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<v Speaker 1>in the same place as that they concluded the season end.

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<v Speaker 1>Tom there, Jeff Joni aac here on Chicago Sports Radio

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<v Speaker 1>six seventy the score, Let's go to the phones, three

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<v Speaker 1>four sixty seven, sixty seven. Mike's on the line from Byron,

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<v Speaker 1>Mike go ahead, Hey, yeah, it's thanks for taking my

0:32:23.280 --> 0:32:26.840
<v Speaker 1>tall love his show, and I just wanted to ask you,

0:32:27.160 --> 0:32:30.520
<v Speaker 1>Tom Faire, as an offensive lineman, how much does a

0:32:31.240 --> 0:32:35.560
<v Speaker 1>tight end like a George Kittle play into the part

0:32:36.120 --> 0:32:40.040
<v Speaker 1>of but testing the quarterback, giving them time to throw

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<v Speaker 1>something over the middle and you know, just make the

0:32:44.480 --> 0:32:49.360
<v Speaker 1>offense that much easier on the guy like much of Christy.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it's it is a great question because I

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<v Speaker 1>think the tight end can be incorporated in the past

0:32:53.480 --> 0:32:57.080
<v Speaker 1>protection responsibilities and if they are a good pass protector,

0:32:57.400 --> 0:33:00.920
<v Speaker 1>you're giving more um, You're giving more help to the

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<v Speaker 1>offensive line, you give him more protection for the quarterback.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, you know, George Kittle is unique man

0:33:06.640 --> 0:33:09.280
<v Speaker 1>this His dad was a football player, played at Iowa.

0:33:09.640 --> 0:33:12.920
<v Speaker 1>You know, George Kittle was coached by his dad grown

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<v Speaker 1>up and you can see the experience within him. But

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<v Speaker 1>if you can have a tight end at that position,

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<v Speaker 1>who can be equally as good as a blocker as

0:33:21.480 --> 0:33:24.719
<v Speaker 1>he is a dangerous target, and I think that's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>kind of hard to find. Maybe Gronk in those later

0:33:27.840 --> 0:33:31.160
<v Speaker 1>years when he was you know, he couldn't run as

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<v Speaker 1>well as he could early in his career, he probably

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<v Speaker 1>became a better blocker because that's where he was he

0:33:36.360 --> 0:33:40.280
<v Speaker 1>was more useful. But yeah, those blocking tad ends that

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<v Speaker 1>it can also make sure you have some diversity when

0:33:43.320 --> 0:33:46.320
<v Speaker 1>you line them up. That's a little bit in disguise

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<v Speaker 1>for what the defense is expecting. Those guys aren't rolling

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<v Speaker 1>into the league, right. But you know you just talked

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<v Speaker 1>about Shanahan's quote about having a center who can get

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<v Speaker 1>to the second level. I was watching some blocks by

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<v Speaker 1>Kittle this past weekend where he was getting to the

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<v Speaker 1>second level, and the reason the running back wasn't be

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<v Speaker 1>in touch of the third level is because of that

0:34:02.320 --> 0:34:04.800
<v Speaker 1>second level blocked by a Kittle. So I think a

0:34:04.880 --> 0:34:07.280
<v Speaker 1>tight end they got to be able to do everything.

0:34:07.360 --> 0:34:09.640
<v Speaker 1>They got to be able to line up as an

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<v Speaker 1>H back, line up on the line of scrimmage, be

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<v Speaker 1>able to block a defensive end. And you're not asking

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<v Speaker 1>this tight end to block a defensive end solely for

0:34:17.560 --> 0:34:20.120
<v Speaker 1>five or six seconds. You're asking them to get their

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<v Speaker 1>hands on, make him run a wider path to the quarterback,

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<v Speaker 1>and try to keep in some kind of after this weekend.

0:34:25.520 --> 0:34:28.800
<v Speaker 1>What you're also stuck with, who you know, is making

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<v Speaker 1>sure you get guys or making sure your receivers are

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<v Speaker 1>willing to block, because those short little runs of three,

0:34:36.400 --> 0:34:39.960
<v Speaker 1>four or five six yards become double digit runs did

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<v Speaker 1>from most start over the weekend most and with a

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<v Speaker 1>tight end and wide receivers having that willingness to block,

0:34:45.239 --> 0:34:47.120
<v Speaker 1>it just opens things up. Well. I think that's one

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<v Speaker 1>of the most impressive impressive qualities of Alan Robinson, as

0:34:50.680 --> 0:34:52.800
<v Speaker 1>he is willing to block, whether he's going to block

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<v Speaker 1>on a jet sweep or a screen that immediately comes

0:34:55.560 --> 0:35:00.080
<v Speaker 1>to the outside. Cordella Patterson is a good blocker, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think Riley Ridley and these guys that's what they're

0:35:02.840 --> 0:35:05.600
<v Speaker 1>gonna have to be willing to do. We know Ridley

0:35:06.000 --> 0:35:09.640
<v Speaker 1>is a super capable receiver, but if he's gonna expand

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<v Speaker 1>his time on the field in packages where they don't

0:35:12.600 --> 0:35:14.680
<v Speaker 1>know exactly what's going to happen every time he's on

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<v Speaker 1>the field, he's got to become that blocker. All right,

0:35:16.960 --> 0:35:19.400
<v Speaker 1>let's take another phone call. We'll go to Nick in

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<v Speaker 1>Gray's Lake. You're on Chicago Sports Radio six seventy the

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<v Speaker 1>Score with Jeff Intown. Hey, fellas, I hope you're having

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<v Speaker 1>a good night. I was listening to the I was

0:35:28.719 --> 0:35:31.880
<v Speaker 1>listening to you guys talk about great center play, and

0:35:31.920 --> 0:35:34.480
<v Speaker 1>it just reminded me of I was watching the clip

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<v Speaker 1>of the third down touchdown that Mozart scored two nights ago,

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<v Speaker 1>and if you watch the center, I think he down

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<v Speaker 1>blocks or backblocks a four ye or a five tech,

0:35:47.719 --> 0:35:50.120
<v Speaker 1>which is I might be exaggerating a little bit, but

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<v Speaker 1>he got there faster than the snap got the Jimmy garoppolo,

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<v Speaker 1>which is unbelievable. You know that you have that go ahead,

0:35:58.280 --> 0:35:59.759
<v Speaker 1>nick I saying that's one of the keys for the

0:36:00.000 --> 0:36:02.800
<v Speaker 1>offensive line using the snap count as a weapon, because

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<v Speaker 1>even if he is in the outside shade of the

0:36:05.480 --> 0:36:09.160
<v Speaker 1>offensive guard, he's lined up to his outside shoulder. It

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<v Speaker 1>is one of the more difficult blocks for centers to make,

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<v Speaker 1>especially if there's any influence that they've seen from watching

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<v Speaker 1>tape before. But man, playing at home, hearing that snap count,

0:36:20.080 --> 0:36:22.800
<v Speaker 1>understanding that you're going to have that instant of burst

0:36:22.880 --> 0:36:27.920
<v Speaker 1>before the defensive line recognizes it. Sometimes being the master

0:36:28.000 --> 0:36:32.560
<v Speaker 1>of the snap count really helps you the most. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking very specific play right now. This is going

0:36:35.440 --> 0:36:37.760
<v Speaker 1>to be making you happy right now. You you Jay Higan,

0:36:37.800 --> 0:36:40.120
<v Speaker 1>brig Olden Creutz and the fellas talking about center play.

0:36:40.280 --> 0:36:41.960
<v Speaker 1>We love it. You know, it's you know, it's different.

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<v Speaker 1>So we had that block when we are playing for

0:36:44.160 --> 0:36:47.560
<v Speaker 1>the Bears, and so we're playing against the team that

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<v Speaker 1>I knew the defensive line coach really well, and he

0:36:50.480 --> 0:36:52.200
<v Speaker 1>told us he goes, you know, every time you guys

0:36:52.239 --> 0:36:55.440
<v Speaker 1>are in split backs, the center blocks won away, and

0:36:55.480 --> 0:36:59.240
<v Speaker 1>so now that block became so difficult for the center

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<v Speaker 1>to make because every time we were in this one

0:37:02.280 --> 0:37:06.560
<v Speaker 1>backfield formation, the center was blocking one away and it

0:37:06.960 --> 0:37:09.920
<v Speaker 1>became predictable and more difficult for him to make another

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<v Speaker 1>segment to go here on Bears All Access with Tom there,

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<v Speaker 1>Jeff Joniac and your phone calls coming up. Three one

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<v Speaker 1>want to jump out to the final ten minutes or

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<v Speaker 1>at the top of the hour, and we get out

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<v Speaker 1>of here with the NFC North time. Everybody's finished up now,

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<v Speaker 1>obviously with the Packers getting knocked out, how these teams

0:37:52.640 --> 0:37:55.920
<v Speaker 1>now will be looking at the tweak their teams moving forward.

0:37:56.239 --> 0:37:59.440
<v Speaker 1>Certainly a ton of conversation about Aaron Rodgers and what

0:37:59.560 --> 0:38:02.680
<v Speaker 1>he might eat around him. He still feels he's got

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<v Speaker 1>a window to win a Super Bowl, you know, always

0:38:05.000 --> 0:38:08.319
<v Speaker 1>believe that given his own excellence. But we'll go through

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<v Speaker 1>the division a little bit. What are you looking at?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I think the defense did a nice job

0:38:13.520 --> 0:38:16.359
<v Speaker 1>against Green Bay this year. To me, it's I need

0:38:16.400 --> 0:38:18.960
<v Speaker 1>a scheme to block the talent up front and the

0:38:18.960 --> 0:38:21.680
<v Speaker 1>Packers defense because when you look at the first game

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<v Speaker 1>of the year ten to three, and then you look

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<v Speaker 1>at the fifteenth game of the year or whatever it was,

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<v Speaker 1>the second to last game of the year when they

0:38:28.719 --> 0:38:32.560
<v Speaker 1>play Green Bay, I think Zadarius Smith, Preston Smith, they

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<v Speaker 1>created such a problem for the Bears from the first

0:38:35.160 --> 0:38:37.719
<v Speaker 1>game all the way to that sixteenth game that they

0:38:37.719 --> 0:38:40.680
<v Speaker 1>have to figure out a scheme of how you're going

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<v Speaker 1>to block that front because if Zadarius Smith number fifty

0:38:44.160 --> 0:38:46.440
<v Speaker 1>five is he's gonna move all over the place. You

0:38:46.520 --> 0:38:50.160
<v Speaker 1>have to have the capabilities of switching your protection mid stride.

0:38:50.400 --> 0:38:52.960
<v Speaker 1>And we talk about the value of the tight end

0:38:53.000 --> 0:38:56.080
<v Speaker 1>being a blocker there. He's got to be incorporated in

0:38:56.120 --> 0:38:57.920
<v Speaker 1>the mix. He's got to be a part of it.

0:38:58.000 --> 0:39:00.399
<v Speaker 1>So does your running backs. But to me, if you're

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<v Speaker 1>looking at Green Bay specifically, you got to figure out

0:39:03.160 --> 0:39:05.239
<v Speaker 1>a way to block that pass attack. You shouldn't. They

0:39:05.239 --> 0:39:07.399
<v Speaker 1>have a difficult time stopping the run this pass game,

0:39:07.440 --> 0:39:10.040
<v Speaker 1>so that that will mute it right there and there.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, but you know you think about just all

0:39:13.640 --> 0:39:16.280
<v Speaker 1>right now, you know, and then you bring up David Montgomery,

0:39:16.320 --> 0:39:18.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, because I still have super high expectations for

0:39:18.760 --> 0:39:22.520
<v Speaker 1>David Montgomery within the division. But to me, if if

0:39:22.560 --> 0:39:23.960
<v Speaker 1>you got to think at the start of the season,

0:39:24.000 --> 0:39:26.040
<v Speaker 1>how you're gonna finish, how you're gonna win the division.

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<v Speaker 1>So last year, all the coordinators figure out how are

0:39:28.520 --> 0:39:30.480
<v Speaker 1>they going to take Khalil mac out of the mix,

0:39:30.800 --> 0:39:34.440
<v Speaker 1>and so they all attacked him repeatedly throughout this season.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's the same thing when the Bears are trying

0:39:36.560 --> 0:39:40.080
<v Speaker 1>to figure out a plan to beat the Packers. You know,

0:39:40.120 --> 0:39:43.080
<v Speaker 1>they beat the Minnesota Vikings, they beat the Detroit Lions,

0:39:43.080 --> 0:39:45.680
<v Speaker 1>and although they have assets on those teams, I think

0:39:45.680 --> 0:39:48.200
<v Speaker 1>you have to start at the top figure out how

0:39:48.239 --> 0:39:51.040
<v Speaker 1>to formulate a good plan of attack against the Green

0:39:51.080 --> 0:39:53.200
<v Speaker 1>Bay Packers the next time you play them, along with

0:39:53.239 --> 0:39:56.360
<v Speaker 1>the Vikings, with Detroit of the big passing game. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know that's always the case. What did we see

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<v Speaker 1>it on the second play of the offense game with

0:40:00.360 --> 0:40:02.759
<v Speaker 1>a backup quarterback this year? I think when you look

0:40:02.800 --> 0:40:07.080
<v Speaker 1>at what the the uh, the cornerbacks, what the defense

0:40:07.160 --> 0:40:09.040
<v Speaker 1>has to be capable of doing, they have to get

0:40:09.120 --> 0:40:12.040
<v Speaker 1>pressure on if Matthew Stafford comes back. They have to

0:40:12.080 --> 0:40:15.279
<v Speaker 1>put significant amount of pressure on Matthew Stafford because if

0:40:15.280 --> 0:40:17.960
<v Speaker 1>you look at the big play, the big threat speed

0:40:18.000 --> 0:40:21.600
<v Speaker 1>that Detroit has, that's something that you're gonna have to

0:40:21.640 --> 0:40:24.600
<v Speaker 1>compete with because I don't think Matt Patricia is going

0:40:24.640 --> 0:40:26.880
<v Speaker 1>to take the ball out of Stafford's hands once he

0:40:26.920 --> 0:40:30.279
<v Speaker 1>comes back. You know, he's he's willing to throw it

0:40:30.360 --> 0:40:33.120
<v Speaker 1>as much as any head coach in the National Football League.

0:40:33.320 --> 0:40:36.799
<v Speaker 1>And Daryl Bevil, the offensive coordinator, I think they saw

0:40:36.880 --> 0:40:39.400
<v Speaker 1>positive things from Stafford before he was hurt. There's have

0:40:39.440 --> 0:40:41.480
<v Speaker 1>a handle on Minnesota, but it's it's always going to

0:40:41.520 --> 0:40:43.600
<v Speaker 1>be about staff in their running game. Now. Yeah, you

0:40:43.680 --> 0:40:46.800
<v Speaker 1>know you think about you know, you know, well, what

0:40:46.880 --> 0:40:49.680
<v Speaker 1>are the is Kurt Cousins. He's not under contract anymore.

0:40:49.760 --> 0:40:52.239
<v Speaker 1>I think he's I think he's still off. I think

0:40:52.239 --> 0:40:54.080
<v Speaker 1>he's I don't know if he's still has a contract

0:40:54.160 --> 0:40:56.200
<v Speaker 1>or what they're gonna doing with Kirk Cousins. But when

0:40:56.680 --> 0:40:59.080
<v Speaker 1>he's there, when you look at the running back position there,

0:40:59.440 --> 0:41:02.840
<v Speaker 1>that's the ingredient to their football team because if you

0:41:02.880 --> 0:41:06.400
<v Speaker 1>if you can have a solid running game with the

0:41:06.440 --> 0:41:08.839
<v Speaker 1>type of defense that they can put on the field, boy,

0:41:08.880 --> 0:41:11.120
<v Speaker 1>that I mean, that is a recipe for success. I

0:41:11.200 --> 0:41:13.360
<v Speaker 1>know that didn't work for the Tennessee Titans because you

0:41:13.400 --> 0:41:15.160
<v Speaker 1>have to have the ability to throw the ball. But

0:41:15.239 --> 0:41:17.440
<v Speaker 1>Minnesota they do have the ability to throw the ball

0:41:17.600 --> 0:41:20.640
<v Speaker 1>with their receivers and their tight ends are as good

0:41:20.680 --> 0:41:23.400
<v Speaker 1>as there are in the division. But Dalvin Cook, he is,

0:41:23.719 --> 0:41:25.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, he's as good as running back as there

0:41:25.560 --> 0:41:26.960
<v Speaker 1>is in the division. All Right, let's take it on

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<v Speaker 1>the phone call here before we get out of here.

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<v Speaker 1>Three two sty four sixty seven sixty seven to the

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<v Speaker 1>lines we go, and we got with Lawanda. Welcome to

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<v Speaker 1>the program. Actually is under my wife's name, but okay, hey,

0:41:41.480 --> 0:41:44.160
<v Speaker 1>she's in charge, you know it. Ye yeah, you're all

0:41:44.200 --> 0:41:47.480
<v Speaker 1>the time kind of question for you guys, Okay, thing

0:41:47.520 --> 0:41:52.200
<v Speaker 1>the job era basically, he always he always ran the

0:41:52.239 --> 0:41:54.680
<v Speaker 1>ball because that's just he was an old school coach.

0:41:54.760 --> 0:41:58.400
<v Speaker 1>I understand that, well, we got basically the same altics

0:41:58.440 --> 0:42:02.200
<v Speaker 1>of line and for the most part there and we

0:42:02.200 --> 0:42:04.479
<v Speaker 1>was able to run the ball. So I'm just trying

0:42:04.480 --> 0:42:08.120
<v Speaker 1>to figure out what happened once the coaching change. And

0:42:08.200 --> 0:42:11.560
<v Speaker 1>I know you can answer this because you're an offensive

0:42:11.640 --> 0:42:15.279
<v Speaker 1>guy offered the linement. So I'm just wondering, why is

0:42:15.320 --> 0:42:19.839
<v Speaker 1>it that now when the coaching change, we just can't

0:42:19.880 --> 0:42:22.160
<v Speaker 1>see the run the ball like we used I was wondering.

0:42:22.239 --> 0:42:24.560
<v Speaker 1>You can elaborate on that, you know. I think Jordan

0:42:24.640 --> 0:42:26.840
<v Speaker 1>Howard was one of the assets the Bears did have,

0:42:26.960 --> 0:42:28.799
<v Speaker 1>and when he was in the same system for a

0:42:28.880 --> 0:42:32.080
<v Speaker 1>number of years, he had the innate ability to kind

0:42:32.120 --> 0:42:34.319
<v Speaker 1>of predict and how and where the holes would open

0:42:34.400 --> 0:42:38.000
<v Speaker 1>up according to a blocking scheme that he's seen over

0:42:38.040 --> 0:42:42.200
<v Speaker 1>the years. I think David Montgomery, when you're coming as

0:42:42.239 --> 0:42:44.560
<v Speaker 1>a rookie, you're trying to learn the meaning of the

0:42:44.680 --> 0:42:47.920
<v Speaker 1>terminology and then you're trying to understand the speed of

0:42:47.960 --> 0:42:51.440
<v Speaker 1>the defenses and how that interacts with your offensive line.

0:42:51.719 --> 0:42:54.359
<v Speaker 1>I think it's a process of development. So and that's

0:42:54.360 --> 0:42:56.880
<v Speaker 1>one of the things that we're talking about is I

0:42:57.040 --> 0:43:02.239
<v Speaker 1>have higher expectations for David Montgomery as his career goes on,

0:43:02.840 --> 0:43:05.320
<v Speaker 1>and I think that he can be the running asset

0:43:05.360 --> 0:43:07.800
<v Speaker 1>that Jordan Howard was. But I was a fan of

0:43:07.920 --> 0:43:13.000
<v Speaker 1>Jordan Howard. He was an experienced guy. They probably lost,

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<v Speaker 1>I think they made it. Might have lost a little

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<v Speaker 1>deception when he's on the field because they didn't throw

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<v Speaker 1>to him very much, and that is kind of a setback,

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<v Speaker 1>and they wouldn't got Montgomery, who catches the ball is

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<v Speaker 1>equally as well as any running back out there. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's just gonna be experienced with Montgomery and understanding the

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<v Speaker 1>offense faster. Just like when you hear about a quarterback

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<v Speaker 1>and things slowing down, it's the same thing for a

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<v Speaker 1>running back. Why did you ask me today about Montgomery?

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<v Speaker 1>Earlier today off the air, we were talking about maybe

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<v Speaker 1>some topics for tonight, and you want to know how

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<v Speaker 1>often he was on the field? Right, I went down

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<v Speaker 1>because there was time it was churchdown was the most, Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>but there's times on third down. I was frustrated that

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<v Speaker 1>he wasn't in the game, and with all due respect

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<v Speaker 1>to Tarik Cohen, and he had probably had more reps

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<v Speaker 1>as the third down. I think David Montgomery is a

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<v Speaker 1>really good blocker. He can pick up blitzes and he

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<v Speaker 1>can catch balls at a moment's notice. If you think

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<v Speaker 1>of a running back, they has to sit behind the

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<v Speaker 1>line of scrimmage and help the offensive line provide the

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<v Speaker 1>protection for the quarterback, and then he sneaks beyond the

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<v Speaker 1>line of scrimmage. We started seeing some of those dumps

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<v Speaker 1>beyond the line of scrimmage to David Montgomery a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit later in the year. But how many times throughout

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<v Speaker 1>the course of our lives watching Aaron Rodgers have we

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<v Speaker 1>been haunted by him getting pressure on him, finding the

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<v Speaker 1>running back given it to him at the last second.

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<v Speaker 1>Then a running back makes ten or twelve out of it.

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<v Speaker 1>So to me, David Montgomery is a three down back,

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<v Speaker 1>but I would like to see him used more in

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<v Speaker 1>those third down instances where he can really become a

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<v Speaker 1>matchup threat. And he's twenty two touches on third down.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not in twenty nineteen. But again you get trere Cohen.

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<v Speaker 1>I understand that. To me, Terricohen is more of an

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<v Speaker 1>immediate weapon, an immediate threat when he lines up at

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<v Speaker 1>the line of scrimmag I think that's when you put

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<v Speaker 1>paranoia into his coverage because it starts immediately when you

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<v Speaker 1>think of coverage responsibility from tree call, and when he's

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<v Speaker 1>four or five yards deep in the backfield, the coverage

0:45:10.520 --> 0:45:13.279
<v Speaker 1>doesn't start for eight or nine yards. So to me,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Montgomery can be more helpful to the blocking

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<v Speaker 1>and he can be just as much of an asset

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<v Speaker 1>and catching the ball. All right, this one, I'm sure

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<v Speaker 1>elicits some passionate conversation from me before we get out

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<v Speaker 1>of here. Tonight here on Chicago Sports Radio six seventy

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<v Speaker 1>to score, I read that there's a feeling out there

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<v Speaker 1>that you can't beat a prolific passing attack. I'm already

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<v Speaker 1>laughing because I know with a prolific running attack. That's

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<v Speaker 1>the biggest foss in the Super Bowl. In the Super Bowl,

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<v Speaker 1>you can't beat a prolific passing attack with a prolific

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<v Speaker 1>running attack. What's your thought? What's your thought? Well, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I think we probably had an example of that this

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<v Speaker 1>weekend with Tennessee versus Kansas City. In Tennessee did get

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<v Speaker 1>the upper hand, but with Kansas City was never out

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<v Speaker 1>of it. You know, when we are in the Super Bowl,

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<v Speaker 1>they were so determined to take Walter Payton out of

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<v Speaker 1>the game in which they were able to accomplish, but

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<v Speaker 1>it did open up opportunities for your passing game. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's about the quarterback. Can the quarterback become a passing

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback if he's relying on the run. Ryan Tannehill couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>do it, and so when they took the runaway, you

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<v Speaker 1>saw at the inefficient quarterback the results of it. Next

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<v Speaker 1>week I'll be on the show from Miami Super Bowl

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<v Speaker 1>breaking down Jimmy Garoppolo's forty nine ers and Patrick Mahomes

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<v Speaker 1>is Kansas City Chiefs, so I'll coming up. Thanks everybody

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<v Speaker 1>for listening tonight. From Mike Channt, Chris Dickens, our producers,

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