1 00:00:10,360 --> 00:00:14,120 Speaker 1: This is the OTP presented by Far Bureau Health Plans. 2 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:16,759 Speaker 1: Healthcare coverage from far Bureau Health Plans is like an 3 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:19,480 Speaker 1: extra set of pads when you need them the most. 4 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:23,520 Speaker 1: They've been protecting Tennessee and since nineteen forty seven with 5 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:26,840 Speaker 1: Amy Welsh. I'm Mike Keith and Andy Garrison. I hope 6 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:29,840 Speaker 1: you're happy. You just texted me and we're taping your 7 00:00:29,880 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 1: OTP right now. Well, look at Andy and I go 8 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:35,640 Speaker 1: to church together. He's like, where's the OTP. Okay, we're 9 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:39,640 Speaker 1: on it. I like it. I like people who expected 10 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 1: at a certain time and are ready for it. I appreciate, Well, 11 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 1: you were out of town, so we couldn't. We couldn't 12 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 1: do it until today. So Andy, you are getting your 13 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:51,000 Speaker 1: OTP and we're we're glad you're back. Yes, it's good 14 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 1: to be back, refreshed, rejuvenated, and I'm ready to talk 15 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 1: some Titans. But I missed a lot. You really didn't. 16 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 1: I mean, when you talk about the league, Aaron Rodgers 17 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 1: is still a packer. He is, He's still a packer, 18 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:06,760 Speaker 1: and we think he's still engaged. Who knows, who knows? 19 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 1: You never know. The Deshaun Watson situation in Houston seems 20 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:13,039 Speaker 1: to still be up in the air, although there have 21 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:18,320 Speaker 1: been reports about settlement between Watson and the women who 22 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 1: have charged that he behaved inappropriately, So we'll see where 23 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:24,400 Speaker 1: that goes right now. So nothing new in Green Bay, 24 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:27,959 Speaker 1: nothing new in Houston. The Tim Tebow thing finally did 25 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:32,279 Speaker 1: happen in Jacksonville. He signed a contract and is playing 26 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:35,840 Speaker 1: tight end slash h back for the Jaguars in their 27 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:38,760 Speaker 1: off season program, wearing number eighty five. You know, Mike, 28 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 1: that is something that I caught a little whiff of 29 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 1: on my trip away, and I'm wondering your thoughts on it. 30 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 1: I've kind of been waiting to ask you about it 31 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 1: until we were here. What do you think this is 32 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 1: what he should have played all along? Yeah? I thought 33 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 1: he was a tight end h back there. You know, 34 00:01:56,160 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 1: there's been several guys who do it. When I was 35 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 1: a kid, Kentucky had a quarterback named Derek Ramsey who 36 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 1: led them to a ten in one season, and when 37 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 1: he got in the NFL, they made him a tight end. 38 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 1: I mean, it happens. There's not everybody gets to play quarterback. 39 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:13,640 Speaker 1: It's kind of like it's kind of like when you 40 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 1: go from Little League to you know, middle school to 41 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 1: high school. Not everybody gets to play quarterback. Tim Tebow 42 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 1: just wasn't a good enough passer. Yeah, his wind up 43 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 1: was too deep. He couldn't make every single throw. But 44 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:30,919 Speaker 1: he was a heck of an athlete and had a 45 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:33,079 Speaker 1: lot of good players with him at Florida, and he's 46 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:37,359 Speaker 1: a winner and he's a tough guy. I think had 47 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:40,400 Speaker 1: he started out in this role in the league, I 48 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:43,639 Speaker 1: think he would still be in the league playing this position. 49 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:47,360 Speaker 1: Do you think that the time away is going to 50 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:52,520 Speaker 1: make things tricky for him? It is because he hasn't 51 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:57,680 Speaker 1: been hit, and your body gets used to the contact. 52 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 1: Anybody who's ever played football will tell you that you 53 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 1: go out for the first day of spring practice or 54 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:07,240 Speaker 1: summer practice, whatever. For the first couple of days, you 55 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:10,119 Speaker 1: are so sore. I mean, you are so sore from 56 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:12,959 Speaker 1: getting hit, and then your body kind of gets used 57 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 1: to it. He hasn't been hit in eight years. Yeah, 58 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:19,400 Speaker 1: and he has not been hit as much as he's 59 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 1: going to be hit playing this position. He's never blocked anybody. 60 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:27,239 Speaker 1: Quarterbacks don't get hit in practice. I think if anybody 61 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 1: can do it, though, it's probably Tebow. He has been 62 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:33,520 Speaker 1: a professional athlete playing baseball, so he has stayed in shape. 63 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 1: And I don't buy the whole thing that this is 64 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 1: being done as some sort of trick or some sort 65 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 1: of gag or a promotional type. I think they're serious 66 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 1: about him because I think urban Meyer is smart enough 67 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 1: to know that the NFL is all about wins and losses. 68 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 1: A lot of nice people in the NFL get fired. Yeah, 69 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 1: and if you don't win, you get fired. So bottom 70 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 1: line is, if Tim Tebow can help him win, then 71 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 1: that's a good thing. They don't need the hype right now. 72 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 1: They've got Trevor Lawrence, They've got urban Meyer back in Florida, 73 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 1: They've had all these draft picks, and they I mean, 74 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 1: their season ticket sales are through the roof right now. 75 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 1: So this is not being done as a stunt. Yeah, 76 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 1: this is being done because urban Meyer believes that he 77 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:22,920 Speaker 1: can help the team. Now is that smart? I don't know. 78 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 1: If it works out, it's it's genius. If it doesn't, 79 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 1: it's a bad move. But for all these folks who 80 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 1: continue to write that, oh, well, this is just him 81 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 1: not letting go of the past, and I don't buy it. Yeah, 82 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 1: I think he thinks Tebow can come do this, and 83 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:45,279 Speaker 1: Tebow's like, let's give it a shot. How do you 84 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:48,160 Speaker 1: not like Tim Tebow? I like Tim Tebow. I always did. 85 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 1: I just didn't think he's that good quarterback. I didn't 86 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:52,680 Speaker 1: think he was an NFL quarterback right, which doesn't mean 87 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 1: he's not a I mean he was a great college player, 88 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 1: but there are plenty of guys who are, you know, 89 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:01,159 Speaker 1: great college players who aren't great pro players, and that's okay, 90 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 1: that'll make you a bad person. I think it's going 91 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:05,520 Speaker 1: to be an intriguing experiment. I think it's going to 92 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:08,799 Speaker 1: be an interesting storyline to watch as we go through 93 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 1: the off season, as he, you know, continues to get 94 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:15,599 Speaker 1: into football shape, which is different from baseball shape, which 95 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 1: is what he was previously in. So how does his 96 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 1: body change, how does he adjust his routine? And then 97 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:23,840 Speaker 1: getting into training camp. Training camp is going to be 98 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 1: the big if he makes it there. I mean they 99 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 1: may cut him before that. They gave him no bonus. 100 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 1: He's getting the veteran minimum of nine twenty with no 101 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:36,599 Speaker 1: signing bonus, no guaranteed money. I mean, he's just one 102 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:38,840 Speaker 1: of eighty nine or ninety trying to make the roster. 103 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 1: It's a tryout. It's a tryout, and they may get 104 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 1: into it two weeks and say that it's not worth it. 105 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:47,160 Speaker 1: But the NFL, again, it's about winning and losing. It's 106 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:50,360 Speaker 1: why Michael Vick got another chance. It's why Alden Smith 107 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 1: has gotten sixteen chances and came back and played last 108 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 1: year after five years. If somebody can help you win, 109 00:05:57,400 --> 00:05:59,280 Speaker 1: I mean, they're not going to take just anybody. And 110 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:02,720 Speaker 1: it's not everything goes out the window for winning, but 111 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 1: they're gonna go further taking chances, trying to find any 112 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 1: edge that they possibly can. And having that experience with 113 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 1: the head coach really makes an impact because he trusts him. 114 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:18,480 Speaker 1: He does, he does, and you know, and there's some 115 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:20,840 Speaker 1: funky things they can do with him if they want 116 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 1: to line him up in the wildcat and but they'll 117 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:27,559 Speaker 1: have to get through everything with him making the ball 118 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:29,800 Speaker 1: club because they're not going to keep him as one 119 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 1: of the fifty three just to run trick plays right, 120 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 1: He's gonna have to be able to make the roster. 121 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:37,720 Speaker 1: He's gonna have to play teams. But I don't begrudge 122 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:39,840 Speaker 1: him like some people. There are some people are just 123 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:43,480 Speaker 1: angry about this and it's like look, I mean, God 124 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:46,160 Speaker 1: bless him if he if he makes it wonderful. If 125 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:48,560 Speaker 1: he doesn't, he gave it a shot. I don't really 126 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:51,799 Speaker 1: blame either one of him. He's such a weirdly polarizing 127 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:54,920 Speaker 1: figure just as a guy who's a nice guy. And 128 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 1: I understand that there's a lot of stuff that is 129 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 1: wrapped up in the tim tebowing, but people get even 130 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:06,039 Speaker 1: when he was in New York, but part of it 131 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 1: was and we experienced this here as we talked about 132 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 1: him as a as a quarterback years ago. If you 133 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 1: said anything bad about his quarterbacking, then you were against him, right, 134 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 1: And it's like, no, I'm one hundred percent not against him. 135 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 1: I have nothing against him at all. I just don't 136 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 1: think he's an NFL quarterback. Yeah, And I said that 137 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 1: at the time, and boy, you'd have thought, who Yeah, 138 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:35,800 Speaker 1: it's not good. You know, people love him. I know, Well, 139 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 1: we're going to keep an eye on it because they're 140 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 1: in our division and we're aware of Jacksonville. Again, we 141 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:44,280 Speaker 1: like we like him fine, But I mean, if it 142 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 1: doesn't work out, I'm not going to be sad. First 143 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:50,679 Speaker 1: preseason game is against Atlanta. Question is will Julio Jones 144 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 1: be there, ah, Mike Keith, the ultimate question, it's everywhere 145 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 1: right now? Where will he be? Mike Keith? Well, it's funny. 146 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 1: I read two good stories about this, okay, both done 147 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 1: by outstanding writers the athletics Jeff Schultz, who was at 148 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 1: the Atlanta Journal Constitution for years and I've read the 149 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 1: Atlanta Journal Constitution for thirty five years and he, I mean, 150 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 1: he's a great writer. The other story done about this 151 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 1: is by a current AJC writer, Orlando Ledbetter, who's also outstanding. 152 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 1: So what I did to bring you up to speed, 153 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 1: because I know you've been away. I put the Jeff 154 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:32,680 Speaker 1: Schultz piece and the Orlando Ledbetter piece together to give 155 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:35,079 Speaker 1: you some facts. Well, Mike, that's nice. I wish you 156 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 1: would have done that for me when I was in college. Well, 157 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:40,880 Speaker 1: and I didn't think that's called cheating. Nope, that's called 158 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:44,720 Speaker 1: having a good friend. Yes, okay. Jeff Schultz piece lays 159 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:48,560 Speaker 1: out the whole argument about why the Falcons might trade 160 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 1: Julio Jones. Ledbetter builds his story around the inside of 161 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:55,680 Speaker 1: Joel Corey. Are you for me? With Joel Corey? I 162 00:08:55,679 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 1: am not? Okay, former agent does stuff for CBS Sports. 163 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 1: When you read him or you hear him. He is 164 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 1: really insightful. Think coach Mac on the agent front. Okay, 165 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 1: he's agent Mac, he's agent Mac, yes, but I mean 166 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 1: his insights are really great. So here are the basics 167 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:16,960 Speaker 1: that I've put together from the two stories. The Falcons 168 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 1: are less than a million dollars under the salary cap 169 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 1: right now. That's just their top fifty one players. Remember 170 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:26,840 Speaker 1: that that's not everybody who's going to count. That's just 171 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 1: right now. They need roughly thirteen million dollars freed up 172 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 1: just to sign their draft picks. So they need that 173 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 1: money now. They need the money now. They are desperate 174 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 1: for salary cap room. They have the major cap issues now, 175 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 1: but they also have major cap issues in the future. 176 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 1: So the progress that they make on the cap in 177 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 1: twenty twenty one hopefully builds to twenty twenty two and beyond. 178 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:54,439 Speaker 1: For Arthur Smith's team, that's what we're hoping for him. 179 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:59,560 Speaker 1: Trading Julio Jones post June first, when they can spread 180 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 1: his app cost over this year and twenty twenty two, 181 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:06,319 Speaker 1: can give at Lanta some breathing room that they need 182 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:09,200 Speaker 1: right now. Talk about Julio Jones, who he is six 183 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:12,679 Speaker 1: pick in twenty eleven seven time pro bowler, eight hundred 184 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:16,720 Speaker 1: forty eight catches, averaged over fifteen yards a catch. Most 185 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:20,320 Speaker 1: impressively in his career, has averaged ninety six yards receiving 186 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 1: per game, So he's nearly averaged one hundred yards per 187 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:28,360 Speaker 1: game in a one hundred and thirty five game career. Wow, 188 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:32,200 Speaker 1: sixty touchdown catches. If he doesn't play another down, Amy, 189 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 1: I think there's a pretty good shot that he's a 190 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 1: Hall of Famer now. The flip side, he turned thirty 191 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 1: two in February, miss seven games last year. His numbers 192 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:45,199 Speaker 1: have fallen off slightly over the last couple of seasons, 193 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 1: just a little. And he's doing a base salary of 194 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:51,680 Speaker 1: fifteen point three million dollars in twenty twenty one. That's 195 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:56,000 Speaker 1: the base's the that's what he gets every part of 196 00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 1: every two weeks, so no bonuses or anything. He has 197 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 1: a very trade table contract because all of the bonus 198 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 1: stuff is done. So he's got three years left. It's 199 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:10,440 Speaker 1: all basically salary, and it's fifteen three this year. Atlanta 200 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:14,439 Speaker 1: could reado his contract. They could say, Juliu play this 201 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:17,120 Speaker 1: year for a million and a half salary and we'll 202 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:20,680 Speaker 1: take the thirteen eight, turn it into a bonus, and 203 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:23,199 Speaker 1: then we'll pro rate it over the rest of your contract. 204 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 1: So they could lower his number dramatically and keep him 205 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 1: on the team, But that adds to their twenty twenty 206 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 1: two and beyond problems, right all right? Plus, I mean 207 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 1: it may just be that they just say it's time 208 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:42,960 Speaker 1: to break up. Yeah, you're thirty two. We're doing something 209 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:46,440 Speaker 1: different here. We drafted Kyle Pitts, We've got some other 210 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 1: good receivers, you know, and maybe it's time that even 211 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:53,880 Speaker 1: though it's clear you can still play, even though you 212 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:57,160 Speaker 1: only played nine games last year, it's still for us, 213 00:11:57,400 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 1: it's time to make a move. And that's a thing 214 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 1: that happens often, it does, and you have to get 215 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:07,840 Speaker 1: away from that, generally a year early rather than a 216 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:10,720 Speaker 1: year late, if you're going to be successful. Right, Okay, 217 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 1: So the number one issue in all of this is 218 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 1: what's the market for Julio Jones? What do the Falcons want? 219 00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 1: Could they get a one? Right? I don't know. Put 220 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:23,560 Speaker 1: that aside for a SECONDA the real question is how 221 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 1: many teams have the available salary cap room to take 222 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 1: on Julio Jones twenty twenty one salary just straight up, Well, 223 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:34,160 Speaker 1: you've got gotta have room to if you trade for him, 224 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:37,200 Speaker 1: you's got to fit under the cap. According to Orlando 225 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:40,560 Speaker 1: Ledbetter's article, there are ten teams that currently have enough 226 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 1: room to absorb the contract. They are Cincinnati, Cleveland, Denver, Detroit, Indianapolis, Jacksonville, 227 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:54,720 Speaker 1: the Los Angeles Chargers, New England, the New York Jets, 228 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:59,079 Speaker 1: and San Francisco. The Jeff Schultz article in The Athletic 229 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 1: claim that Baltimore would also be interested in Julio Jones 230 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 1: even though they technically don't have the room right now. 231 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 1: And so there was a headline that was pulled out 232 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:15,600 Speaker 1: of the Jeff Schultz article that also listed the Titans 233 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:20,000 Speaker 1: as one of those teams interested. Now here's what Jeff 234 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 1: Schultz wrote about that quote. One league source said the 235 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:27,559 Speaker 1: Titans may show interest, but they are close to the 236 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:33,600 Speaker 1: cap ceiling end quote. Okay, several outlets have pulled out. 237 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 1: One league source said the Titans would have interest, Yeah, 238 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 1: but they've left out the second part money correct, Yeah, 239 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 1: or don't have the money to do for him to 240 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 1: do this. The Titans are under the cap. But we 241 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:51,199 Speaker 1: all know according to whichever service you read and what 242 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:54,199 Speaker 1: it's based on doesn't make any difference. Titans are tight 243 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 1: against the cap right, Unlike the Falcons, the Titans have 244 00:13:57,080 --> 00:14:01,079 Speaker 1: begun signing their draft class right. Five picks signed, including 245 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 1: first rounder Caleb Farley second rounder Dylan Radens. The numbers 246 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 1: from the signed draft picks are already factored in to 247 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 1: the titans current top fifty one against the coup. So 248 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 1: the numbers that are being reported are pretty up to 249 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 1: date and accurate, and that they include those drafts. And yeah, 250 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:23,320 Speaker 1: the draft pit, they're three draft picks that are yet 251 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:26,440 Speaker 1: to be signed, right, but the draft picks that have 252 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 1: been signed, including the top two, are already in there. 253 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 1: Dez Fitzpatrick is another one I think that's been reported 254 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 1: to be in there as well. Correct. So the Titans 255 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:37,640 Speaker 1: are paying as they go. You know, they are in 256 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:41,520 Speaker 1: the process right now, but you don't know everything they've done. 257 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 1: But what we do know is they're top fifty one. 258 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 1: They don't have lots of room, which when you signed 259 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:50,440 Speaker 1: Bud Dupree and you signed an Eco Autry, and you 260 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:54,160 Speaker 1: signed Generous Jenkins, and you bring back Jayon Brown and 261 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 1: then you have Luan on a big salary and Buyered 262 00:14:56,640 --> 00:14:59,240 Speaker 1: on a big salary and your quarterback on a big salary, 263 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 1: and Derrick Henry a big salary. I mean this is 264 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:07,240 Speaker 1: not surprising. Correct. Okay, now here's something that's really interesting. 265 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:10,800 Speaker 1: Factoring the now is really only part of the Julio 266 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 1: Jones trade. It is about the future, specifically twenty twenty two, 267 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 1: because what we know is the caps going back up 268 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 1: next year. Yes, but there are still some losses to 269 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 1: be taken, and so the cap, which was roughly one 270 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 1: ninety eight last year and is roughly one eighty two 271 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 1: this year, figures to go back to that one ninety 272 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 1: eight to two hundred level. So you're getting some back, 273 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 1: but you're not getting a lot back. You're basically going back. 274 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:40,960 Speaker 1: You're going back to twenty twenty exactly, right, And so 275 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:43,800 Speaker 1: that's important. Now, twenty twenty three is going to be 276 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 1: much better because the new TV deals factor in, but 277 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 1: we're gonna have one more year of tight, right. So, 278 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 1: according to Orlando Ledbetter's article, the Indianapolis Colts have the 279 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 1: salary cap room to absorb Julio Jones contract via trade, 280 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 1: Yet his sources say the Colts are not likely to 281 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 1: pursue Jones. Fantastic, Okay, that's great. Well, they ain't. May 282 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 1: be wrong, source, may be wrong, but here's why. So 283 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:10,840 Speaker 1: I dug a little on this to kind of give 284 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:13,560 Speaker 1: you some insight. I like this. This is inside baseball 285 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 1: stuff too. I apologize to the OTP listers if you 286 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:18,880 Speaker 1: don't love the inside baseball stuff, but this is your 287 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 1: favorite thing. Well you know I love it. Yes, So, 288 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:25,600 Speaker 1: Indianapolis drafted Quentin Nelson at number six overall in twenty eighteen, 289 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 1: and then they took Darius Leonard in the second round 290 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 1: at number thirty six. Both are cornerstones of the current Colts. Correct, 291 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:35,800 Speaker 1: Both are on the side of the building. Both are 292 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:38,840 Speaker 1: in their schedule posters on their tickets. I mean they 293 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 1: are superstars for the Colts right now. As a first 294 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 1: round pick in twenty eighteen, Nelson has a fifth year 295 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 1: contract option, yes for twenty twenty two. The Colts have 296 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:52,760 Speaker 1: already picked it up. That option is valued at thirteen 297 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:57,240 Speaker 1: point eight million dollars and will be fully guaranteed. Okay, 298 00:16:57,840 --> 00:17:00,680 Speaker 1: So they may do a long term deal with Nell instead, 299 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:04,720 Speaker 1: and that may lower his cap number, but superguard is 300 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:07,399 Speaker 1: getting paid. So in the event this is more a 301 00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 1: process question. In the event that they get a long 302 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:13,480 Speaker 1: term deal done, with him before I guess the fifth 303 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:16,720 Speaker 1: year occurred, they switched to the new deal and that's 304 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:22,680 Speaker 1: what correct counts. Okay, correct, So Superguard getting a raise, yeah, okay. 305 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 1: Around for Darius Leonard, it's even trickier, okay because remember this, 306 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:31,040 Speaker 1: he was a second round pick, no option, no fifth 307 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:33,400 Speaker 1: year option for a second round pick. For next year, 308 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 1: he's scheduled to be a free agent. This is the 309 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:39,359 Speaker 1: big topic in Indianapolis right now. By the way, I 310 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 1: believe that the big topic. We don't want to lose him, 311 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:44,640 Speaker 1: but you gotta pay. Hey, he's been in the league 312 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:47,680 Speaker 1: three years. This is your four two Pro Bowls? Really good, 313 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:52,959 Speaker 1: even more impressive. Two times All Pro? Wow? Making Pro 314 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 1: Bowls is special. All Pro means you're the best at 315 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 1: your position, regardless ofc or a FC. It is the 316 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:06,960 Speaker 1: ultimate honor. Two times Darius Leonard All Pro in three years. Wow. 317 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:09,760 Speaker 1: After this season he will have played four years in 318 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 1: the league. What would you guess that he would have 319 00:18:13,119 --> 00:18:17,640 Speaker 1: made for his first four years in the National Football League? 320 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:21,399 Speaker 1: How much money would you guess that total contract was 321 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:25,000 Speaker 1: worth to be this good a player for the Indianapolis Colts. 322 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:27,840 Speaker 1: I mean it would have to be high, right, second 323 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:32,840 Speaker 1: round pick. Yeah, first contract, four years. For the four 324 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:36,160 Speaker 1: years he will have been paid roughly seven point two 325 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:42,280 Speaker 1: five million dollars total. That's it. So well, that's what 326 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:45,160 Speaker 1: getting a guy in the second round who turns out 327 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:49,960 Speaker 1: to be great, that's where the value is. Wow. So again, 328 00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:53,200 Speaker 1: let me repeat this. Darius Leonard going into his fourth 329 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:56,160 Speaker 1: year at the end of this season from the Colts, 330 00:18:56,800 --> 00:19:00,399 Speaker 1: he will have made roughly seven point two five million 331 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:04,720 Speaker 1: total for one year for the whole thing. So if 332 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:07,240 Speaker 1: the Colts can't work out a contract with Leonard, if 333 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:11,800 Speaker 1: they franchise him, seventeen million dollars is the estimate. So 334 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:15,760 Speaker 1: ten million more for twenty twenty two than what he 335 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 1: was paid twenty eighteen, nineteen twenty and twenty one. Wow. Okay, 336 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 1: he wants a new contract. Yeah, he's watching Fred Warner, 337 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:27,800 Speaker 1: the linebacker in San Francisco. Fred Warner wants twenty million 338 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:33,240 Speaker 1: a year. Reportedly, Leonard wants a base. This is don't 339 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:36,040 Speaker 1: even talk to me unless you're talking about eighteen million 340 00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:40,639 Speaker 1: a year. Wow. So, Quentin Nelson and Darius Leonard are 341 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 1: going to cost the Indianapolis Colts twelve million dollars against 342 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:47,280 Speaker 1: the cap in twenty twenty one next year, their cap 343 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:50,680 Speaker 1: cost will be much higher even in the first years 344 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:53,840 Speaker 1: of new deals. If they both get long term contracts 345 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:56,639 Speaker 1: and they're able to pro rate the bonus and hey, listen, 346 00:19:57,000 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 1: the numbers still going way up. They ain't paying twelve 347 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:03,159 Speaker 1: million for those two, right. That's why Indianapolis may not 348 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:07,720 Speaker 1: be in the Julio Jones market because they know that 349 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:11,199 Speaker 1: they've got to go beyond that. That even though they 350 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:13,840 Speaker 1: have room now, they need to carry some of that 351 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:17,920 Speaker 1: in order to be able to sign those guys. So 352 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:21,800 Speaker 1: in the signing your Dude's theme, I give to you 353 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 1: from the Titans, Harold Landry, Yes he's up. Was a 354 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:31,680 Speaker 1: second round pick. Yes, Rashaun Evans Titans did not exercise 355 00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:34,840 Speaker 1: his fifth year option, but they certainly would like to 356 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:37,920 Speaker 1: keep him, or that's how it seems right now. Nate 357 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 1: Davis is entering year three. He was a third round pick, 358 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:45,800 Speaker 1: had a great twenty twenty season, has been a starter 359 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:49,240 Speaker 1: pretty much from day one, two years away from Jeffrey Simmons, 360 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:54,720 Speaker 1: who was the nineteenth pick, which means his number was 361 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:57,719 Speaker 1: not nearly as high as say, Quentin Nelson's was at 362 00:20:57,840 --> 00:21:01,880 Speaker 1: number six. Right, So you're gonna want to keep Big 363 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:07,120 Speaker 1: Jeff Yeah, and then AJ Brown. Yikes, what a wide 364 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:10,680 Speaker 1: receiver's cost. You want to know, it's gotta be expensive, 365 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:14,280 Speaker 1: It's gotta be astronomical. Corey Davis reportedly got twelve and 366 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:16,760 Speaker 1: a half million three years, thirty seven and a half 367 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:20,680 Speaker 1: million totally, so an average of twelve and a half 368 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:23,960 Speaker 1: million on a list that I found today. And this 369 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 1: is just one that made him the twentieth highest paid 370 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:35,080 Speaker 1: wide receiver in the NFL twenty twenty. I wish I 371 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:39,280 Speaker 1: could catch things I know right right. Yeah, if you're 372 00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:42,480 Speaker 1: sitting here wondering just because you're under the cap or 373 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:45,920 Speaker 1: you're in this position, if you're having to think about it, 374 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:48,639 Speaker 1: you've got to think about the future. You've got to 375 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 1: know what you have on the horizon. Listen, AJ's the 376 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 1: first true number one receiver the Titans have had in years. Yes, 377 00:21:57,160 --> 00:21:59,560 Speaker 1: they're not gonna really want to let him get to 378 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 1: year four. You wouldn't think they're gonna wanna do something 379 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:06,200 Speaker 1: after year three. I mean, they don't have to, but 380 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:09,480 Speaker 1: you would you would like to be in that position. Yeah, 381 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:15,479 Speaker 1: And for a player who is on the last end 382 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:18,200 Speaker 1: of his career, why would you financially want to put 383 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:21,480 Speaker 1: yourself in a situation where you've got to make some 384 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:24,160 Speaker 1: cuts to afford the guy who's in the first part 385 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 1: of well his career. Because remember the Titans have held 386 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:31,240 Speaker 1: everything together for now. They have not made They made 387 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:35,520 Speaker 1: some early moves and cut some guys. They signed players 388 00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 1: we don't know about a bunch of restructures, so that 389 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:42,440 Speaker 1: maybe is still on the table if John Robinson wants 390 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:44,960 Speaker 1: to take that. But the reason that the Titans didn't 391 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 1: have to do a complete wipe out this offseason is 392 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 1: because John Robinson has not carried dead money. Right. He 393 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:54,840 Speaker 1: has put himself in a position where until this year, 394 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:57,320 Speaker 1: where they are going to carry some dead money, he 395 00:22:57,440 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 1: has not done it. He has the availability to do 396 00:22:59,880 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 1: it this year because he hasn't done it in his 397 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:07,119 Speaker 1: first five years. He's been very conscientious, like sort of 398 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:09,920 Speaker 1: getting to the point, you know, just a few days 399 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 1: ago of signing the draft picks to go ahead and 400 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 1: allocate that money. I think they're gonna see this team 401 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:20,040 Speaker 1: in OTA's and I think they're going to say, Okay, 402 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:23,760 Speaker 1: we feel good about this, we feel extra good about this. 403 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:27,480 Speaker 1: We don't feel so good about this, we feel extra 404 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:32,040 Speaker 1: bad about this, And then they will juggle at that 405 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:36,200 Speaker 1: point as they see fit. I don't see them moving 406 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:38,960 Speaker 1: really fast. Yeah, and I like that. It gives the 407 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:44,000 Speaker 1: Tennessee Titans options. You have lots of options, right which 408 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:47,359 Speaker 1: is good. I think that gives you you're not really 409 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:51,440 Speaker 1: tied into one thing, whether it's a big person that 410 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:53,800 Speaker 1: you've acquired and now you're on the hook to pay them, 411 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:57,320 Speaker 1: or it's you can really only invest in one position 412 00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:00,920 Speaker 1: because financially you're not in a great spot. The Tennessee 413 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:03,679 Speaker 1: Titans have a lot of flexibility right now. There are 414 00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:06,880 Speaker 1: places where they can make some moves, and John Robinson 415 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:10,040 Speaker 1: always seems to do that. He always seems to give 416 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:13,879 Speaker 1: himself ways that he can maneuver and manipulate the roster 417 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 1: to continue to improve it. Jack Nicholas, the greatest golfer 418 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 1: of all time, has a saying, and as part of 419 00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:31,080 Speaker 1: his saying, he says, be prepared, force nothing, be yourself. 420 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:34,160 Speaker 1: And I think that's really John Robinson. We know he's prepared, 421 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:37,120 Speaker 1: and we know he's himself. But the thing John does 422 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 1: so well is he doesn't force anything. Right, He's not 423 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:43,080 Speaker 1: going to make any move until he has to. He's 424 00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:47,000 Speaker 1: gonna sit and he's gonna wait, and he's gonna say, Okay, 425 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:49,080 Speaker 1: we don't have to do this, so we're not going 426 00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:52,440 Speaker 1: to do it, and we're gonna just wait and see. 427 00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:56,600 Speaker 1: You know, can he pull off a trade for whomever 428 00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:59,880 Speaker 1: that you fill in the blank, fill in the blank, 429 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:02,680 Speaker 1: for whichever person you're thinking about. As you listen to 430 00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 1: the OTP, the answers yes, I mean, he could make 431 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:10,960 Speaker 1: that happen. The question becomes, is that the best thing 432 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:17,440 Speaker 1: for the Titans going forward? Right? I think that Titans 433 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:23,880 Speaker 1: fans cannot mistake quiet for not working in action, Yes, 434 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:26,800 Speaker 1: because those are not the same thing. They're not the 435 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:30,440 Speaker 1: same thing. And John Robinson has proven that he is 436 00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:36,399 Speaker 1: consistently working, He's consistently paying attention, he knows what's going on. 437 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:42,399 Speaker 1: Not generating a lot of noise is okay. Sometimes just 438 00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:45,360 Speaker 1: let it be, Let it ride, guys. So just as 439 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:48,840 Speaker 1: you hear the rumors about various players, just keep some 440 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:51,560 Speaker 1: of that in mind, keep some of the math in mind, 441 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:55,240 Speaker 1: some of the facts in mind, and some of the 442 00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:57,920 Speaker 1: future in mind. Mike Keith gave you all the question. 443 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 1: It's very helpful and well, I mean, so I found 444 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:04,440 Speaker 1: the story because I knew you would ask about Julio Jones. 445 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:05,919 Speaker 1: You get back into town, I know the first thing 446 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:07,440 Speaker 1: you're going to want to know is what is this 447 00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:10,680 Speaker 1: thing about Julio Jones. Derrick Henry said, I like to 448 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:13,240 Speaker 1: have Julio. Who wouldn't We'll shoot? I mean, I like 449 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 1: all kinds of stuff that I can't really afford. Well, 450 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:18,680 Speaker 1: come on, but I mean this is again, this is 451 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:22,200 Speaker 1: a future more than likely Hall of Famer. Yeah, who 452 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:24,520 Speaker 1: wouldn't want a future Hall of Famer? So if they're 453 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:27,320 Speaker 1: talking about all of I'm sure the fans of all 454 00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:30,120 Speaker 1: of these teams that have been mentioned are just going, WHOA, 455 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:35,119 Speaker 1: you know, let's do this. Yeah, I say, played a 456 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:39,040 Speaker 1: long game, That's what I say, because I don't want 457 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:42,160 Speaker 1: to have to be doing crazy things in three years 458 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:45,840 Speaker 1: because someone did something rap well. I would rather be 459 00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:50,359 Speaker 1: in the middle of it with a chance that if 460 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:53,359 Speaker 1: taytora One plays a whole season and Ryan Tannehill has 461 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:58,000 Speaker 1: another really good year, and AJ and the King do 462 00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:02,960 Speaker 1: their thing and the defense improved, I'll take my chances. Yep. 463 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:08,240 Speaker 1: I'll take my chances against anybody anytime, anywhere, because the 464 00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:12,440 Speaker 1: things that you have stacked in your favor are good. Now, 465 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:16,280 Speaker 1: does Josh Reynolds have to come through. Yes, Does Darrenton 466 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:20,040 Speaker 1: Evans have to give the Titans more? Yes? Does somebody 467 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:22,560 Speaker 1: have to step forward at tight end? Of course, these 468 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:26,280 Speaker 1: are things that have to happen. But if everything falls 469 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:28,960 Speaker 1: your way, just like it did for Tampa last year. 470 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:32,040 Speaker 1: Remember they're sitting there after twelve games seven and five 471 00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:36,240 Speaker 1: and they have gotten their butts beaten on multiple occasions. 472 00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:38,920 Speaker 1: They do not look like a super Bowl team. But 473 00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:42,040 Speaker 1: they got hot at the right time. They got healthy. 474 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:45,000 Speaker 1: Here's Kansas City gets to the super Bowl. Not healthy, 475 00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:49,040 Speaker 1: don't have their offensive life well, and those sorts of things. 476 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:52,160 Speaker 1: It's got a fall, right. I think if you're John Robinson, 477 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:55,240 Speaker 1: you're trying to give Mike Rabel and his staff the 478 00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:58,720 Speaker 1: pieces that if you can just get to that point 479 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:01,479 Speaker 1: and it falls all right, then you know. I mean 480 00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:04,119 Speaker 1: a lot of people would contend the best team in 481 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:06,760 Speaker 1: ball in twenty nineteen was Baltimore and they were out 482 00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:10,400 Speaker 1: after their first playoff game. Yeah, oh what a good time? 483 00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:13,119 Speaker 1: Well I know, but the point is that happens, right, 484 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:16,280 Speaker 1: and it happens often. You can't show up and have 485 00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:19,960 Speaker 1: a bad night like they did in the playoffs. We've 486 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:22,560 Speaker 1: done that before. We've shown up and had a bad night, 487 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:24,879 Speaker 1: and then you know, in that situation in Baltimore in 488 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:27,400 Speaker 1: the week before we're in New England, we had good nights. 489 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:32,280 Speaker 1: So everybody so equal. The most important thing is staying 490 00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:35,159 Speaker 1: in the game. Yep, yep. And it feels good to 491 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:38,400 Speaker 1: your point, Mike, to say I'll put my guys up 492 00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:41,440 Speaker 1: against any of these guys. And that hasn't always been 493 00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:44,280 Speaker 1: the situation for the Tennessee Titans. And so in the 494 00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:48,440 Speaker 1: last couple of years, with John Robinson and Mike Vrabel 495 00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:51,720 Speaker 1: and Amy and everybody really investing in this team and 496 00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:55,200 Speaker 1: getting everything flowing in the right direction, I'll put this 497 00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:58,320 Speaker 1: team up against any of those teams. So you think 498 00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:01,120 Speaker 1: Andy Garrison like this talk, I think so. I hope. So. 499 00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:03,920 Speaker 1: Let the experts at Farm Bureau Health Plans coach you 500 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:06,840 Speaker 1: through it. When you need great healthcare coverage at a 501 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:10,320 Speaker 1: price you can afford. They've been protecting Tennesseeans since nineteen 502 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:13,040 Speaker 1: forty seven. You had a chance to interview most of 503 00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:15,960 Speaker 1: the rookies before you left town. I did. It was 504 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:19,040 Speaker 1: a good way to kind of kick off my trip. 505 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:22,640 Speaker 1: Give me a thought about the whole group. Really fun 506 00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:26,440 Speaker 1: group of guys. Everybody was very personable. It was early. 507 00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:29,080 Speaker 1: I felt a little bad. You hate making someone do 508 00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:32,120 Speaker 1: an interview before eight or nine am, you know, that's 509 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:35,400 Speaker 1: always kind of a stressful thing. Everybody was really great. 510 00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:39,160 Speaker 1: It seems like a really smart group of guys. Everyone 511 00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:42,480 Speaker 1: was pretty thoughtful and they were just fun. They laughed 512 00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:45,120 Speaker 1: at my jokes. So there you good. That's all I need. 513 00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:48,880 Speaker 1: But man, finally got a chance to meet Caleb Farley. 514 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:51,400 Speaker 1: That was really exciting. We had only talked via zoom. 515 00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:54,400 Speaker 1: It was nice to meet him person. He is someone 516 00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:58,120 Speaker 1: who loves football, like guys say it like, oh yeah, 517 00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:01,800 Speaker 1: I like ball. Caleb at least world is football, and 518 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,720 Speaker 1: that is so exciting to be around because you know 519 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:07,920 Speaker 1: how fired up he is about this opportunity. How much 520 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:10,960 Speaker 1: are Titans fans gonna like? Brady Breese, Oh my god, 521 00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:15,800 Speaker 1: the safety out of Oregon. Absolutely so fun, really nice guy, 522 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:18,680 Speaker 1: and it was just great to be able to talk 523 00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:22,080 Speaker 1: to him about his life and football pedigree, growing up 524 00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:25,040 Speaker 1: a little bit, and the fact that he's got a 525 00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:28,760 Speaker 1: friend on the team already, Elijah, so that's cool. That's 526 00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:31,000 Speaker 1: a funny little friendship. And that was a fun thing 527 00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:33,160 Speaker 1: to be able to kind of discuss all right, So 528 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:36,000 Speaker 1: it was Dez Fitzpatrick your favorite. Though now I'm not 529 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:38,560 Speaker 1: supposed to pick face. I know you're not, but but 530 00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:41,000 Speaker 1: I did tell him to his face that he was 531 00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:43,080 Speaker 1: my favorite, so I should probably back it up in 532 00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:47,360 Speaker 1: real life, because wow, what a thoughtful guy. He really 533 00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:51,160 Speaker 1: was just fun to talk to, and he's excited about 534 00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:54,400 Speaker 1: this opportunity. He is like a Titans man through and through. 535 00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:57,040 Speaker 1: I tell you they're They're a bunch of good looking 536 00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:59,960 Speaker 1: athletes in the group. Farley's bigger than you think. Breese 537 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,239 Speaker 1: this is bigger than you think. Fitzpatrick is bigger than 538 00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:07,320 Speaker 1: you think. Raschid Weaver is a bigger dude than what 539 00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:09,560 Speaker 1: you think. They got some really good sides and some 540 00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:13,560 Speaker 1: good athleticism. As I listened to the interviews, impressed by 541 00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:18,840 Speaker 1: how seriously they take this as a job. Absolutely, it's 542 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:22,240 Speaker 1: one of the most grown up groups I've ever heard speak. 543 00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:26,040 Speaker 1: And they've come from some places where they've clearly been interviewed, 544 00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:29,960 Speaker 1: they've had the spotlight on them. Some they get it, 545 00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:33,520 Speaker 1: which is really I think it's important coming to the NFL. 546 00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:37,120 Speaker 1: I think it's hard for somebody who's who's never been 547 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:41,560 Speaker 1: in the spotlight to kind of handle media and handle 548 00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:45,760 Speaker 1: sort of the scrutinies. Not the right word, but it's 549 00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:50,360 Speaker 1: the attention. Yeah. This was the first group where the 550 00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:53,200 Speaker 1: entire group of people that I was able to speak 551 00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:58,040 Speaker 1: to took our conversation really seriously. And it doesn't mean 552 00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:00,640 Speaker 1: it wasn't entertaining and fun and we didn't get to 553 00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:04,840 Speaker 1: know them a little bit, but they actually really listened 554 00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:08,400 Speaker 1: and engaged and it was I keep saying thoughtful and insightful, 555 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:10,200 Speaker 1: but it was it felt like they were taking me 556 00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:14,320 Speaker 1: seriously and having a serious conversation, which I really appreciate it. 557 00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:18,000 Speaker 1: And I'm so excited to see that mentality of this 558 00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:20,200 Speaker 1: group as a whole, where they really are taking this 559 00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:23,600 Speaker 1: job seriously translate on the football field as they start 560 00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:26,200 Speaker 1: to get their feet under them beyond just rookie mini camp. 561 00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:28,200 Speaker 1: There you go. Well, let's wrap up this edition of 562 00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:30,800 Speaker 1: the OTP. Amy Wells. It's good that you're back. Ready 563 00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:32,760 Speaker 1: to watch some ball here coming up pretty soon? Oh 564 00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:35,120 Speaker 1: my gosh, I can't wait. But Mike, I appreciate you 565 00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:37,320 Speaker 1: keeping me in the loop. I go away for a 566 00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:39,800 Speaker 1: couple of days and I come back and I'm fully 567 00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:42,120 Speaker 1: caught up that was the goal. That was nice. Well 568 00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:45,080 Speaker 1: that's fine, Yes, full service here. I still think if 569 00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:47,040 Speaker 1: I'd written this stuff for you in college, there's been 570 00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:50,080 Speaker 1: some sort of plagiarism and an honor effect. No, I 571 00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:52,480 Speaker 1: mean not if you don't get caught right Hey, now 572 00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:57,960 Speaker 1: frame me wells, Mike Keith, thanks for joining us for 573 00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:03,320 Speaker 1: the O T piece where the legends go. Everybody knows 574 00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:07,800 Speaker 1: it's our house, fighting for Tennessee, making us to read 575 00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:13,000 Speaker 1: creanness is meant to be ours. Now we got tighting 576 00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:14,600 Speaker 1: butter running through our face.