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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Ozone Podcast presented by by Star Credit

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Speaker 1: Junior with Jaguars senior writer John Osan. All right, welcome

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Speaker 1: into this week's Ozone podcast pretended by by Star And

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Speaker 1: we are working on a little bit of a schedule today,

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Speaker 1: so I'm not going to delay the intro to a

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Speaker 1: coach that I consider a friend. I've known him for

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Speaker 1: about a decade, Jaguars defensive coordinator Joe Colin. And Joe,

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Speaker 1: I gotta tell you, I still love saying Jaguars defensive

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Speaker 1: coordinator Joe Colin because I've been waiting for you for

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Speaker 1: a long time to get this shot. Uh first, welcome, Well,

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Speaker 1: it's it's great to be on John, and I consider

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Speaker 1: your friend as well. And I'm just a little disappointed

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Speaker 1: I was the last one to get an invite on

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Speaker 1: the Ozone. Well you weren't the last one to get

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Speaker 1: an invite, just kidding, but you're the last one that

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Speaker 1: I cut you all the red tape and get so

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Speaker 1: but it's mainly because you're high demand. I don't know

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Speaker 1: about that. I've already gotten Charlie Strong and Darrow Bebble,

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Speaker 1: but from Joe Cole and I had to wait so um,

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Speaker 1: tell me about the off season. Well, I tell you

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Speaker 1: we've had We've had a great offseason. I mean starting

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Speaker 1: you know when when coach Meyer was hired and and

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Speaker 1: and Trent Bulky putting together the staff, and then the

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Speaker 1: players coming back. You know, it was a different, you know,

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Speaker 1: different year last year, so there wasn't an off season,

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Speaker 1: but the players really bought into everything that we're pushing

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Speaker 1: want to practice. And really we've you know, I don't

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Speaker 1: whole way through and the players, the leaders and and

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Speaker 1: the new players we brought in and really just practiced

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Speaker 1: their tails off and we're really excited about going into camp. Now.

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Speaker 1: You're an old defensive line guy. That's where your heart is.

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Speaker 1: Urban has talked several times this offseason about the importance

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Speaker 1: of having a great defensive line. First, tell me about

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Speaker 1: your defensive line that you've been able to build, reinforce

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Speaker 1: and some of the guys coming back. Well, first of all,

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Speaker 1: He's he's outside backer coach. But really, the the uh,

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Speaker 1: the players that we had here, it was really important

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Speaker 1: ability to to go out and attract some real, real

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Speaker 1: high free agents. You know, Malcolm Brown in the trade.

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Speaker 1: He's been a five year starter on two really top

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Speaker 1: you know Roy Robertson Harris, you know, he's a guy

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Speaker 1: about all the guys really you know, Tavin and guys

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Speaker 1: the course of the season. But why uh how much

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Speaker 1: to get more solid up front? Well, I mean, you know,

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Speaker 1: it's a passing league and everybody always says that, John,

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Speaker 1: you know from where you've been in your career, but

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Speaker 1: I've read a couple of times I saw season. I

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Speaker 1: But how do you feel about the past rush? Uh?

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Speaker 1: I'm fascinating how Josh Allen's gonna look in this defense.

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Speaker 1: I would think you're excited about him. I mean, this

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Speaker 1: When people talk about this defense, they they tend to

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Speaker 1: tell me how you're gonna use Myles Jack, But how

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Speaker 1: key is he to what you're doing? His skill sets

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Speaker 1: your secondary I know that's key. There was a lot

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Speaker 1: Both those guys have done Well. What's this defense gonna

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Speaker 1: look like? How? How would you describe it to somebody? Well,

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Speaker 1: I was brought up in this profession is that there's

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Speaker 1: one there's one key thing that I think you're gonna

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Speaker 1: on defense, I mean just going plus two and relentless

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Speaker 1: three levels. Whether we're gonna you know, we're gonna blitz.

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Speaker 1: is it too simplistic? And you know how to lead works.

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Speaker 1: You say, look at the Ravens. This is what you

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Speaker 1: you got here, right, Yeah, you gotta fit to the personnel.

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Speaker 1: And you know, I was under a great defensive coach,

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Speaker 1: gonna have it. We've got some great defensive coaches that

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Speaker 1: you know, been been to some great places, and um,

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Speaker 1: So I mean, you're gonna see, You're gonna see a

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Speaker 1: And I guess what I'm getting at. Is it hard?

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Speaker 1: been like so far? He's been great. You know, he's

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Speaker 1: he's all you know coaches. I've known him a long

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Speaker 1: time and and uh, he's the piston that drives the

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Speaker 1: and he's been great. Joey, thank you for joining us.

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Speaker 1: Hope to do, Hope to do again soon. I can't

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Speaker 1: wait to see on the field next year. Yeah, I'm

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Speaker 1: great to be back, John, and always pleasure the man