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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. The third hour if The Clay Travis

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Speaker 1: and Buck Sexton Show starts now, we have ag Garland,

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Speaker 1: the Attorney General, is going to be making a statement

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Speaker 1: soon to the nation and the aftermath of the raid

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Speaker 1: on Moral Lago. Earlier this week, We've been talking about

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Speaker 1: it a lot. People are understandably deeply fired up, concerned, outrage,

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Speaker 1: and want answers, and I think you're going to get

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Speaker 1: very few from Garland. But we also have Marindy Divine

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Speaker 1: joining us at the bottom of the hour, and I

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Speaker 1: think we will get some answers from her. Right over

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Speaker 1: the New York Post does great work on this on

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Speaker 1: the Hunter Biden laptop and much more. We also have

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Speaker 1: Fauci making the rounds, which I will get to in

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Speaker 1: a second, But first I sometimes I'll mention a random

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Speaker 1: story to Clay and I will say, you know, I

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Speaker 1: think this one's gonna get a lot of attention. I

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Speaker 1: just I think that people are particularly into it and

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Speaker 1: it's gonna go way beyond what anybody would would think

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Speaker 1: at first, and that makes me that turns my attention

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Speaker 1: to this story. It is up on OutKick dot com

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Speaker 1: right now, which is at a very excellent website for

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Speaker 1: all of you out there, and we should probably crosslink

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Speaker 1: it at Clay and buck dot com. TikTok veterinarian goes

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Speaker 1: viral with a list of dog breeds she wouldn't own. Now,

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Speaker 1: let's just say this, generally, I think that you're allowed

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Speaker 1: to say whatever you want about opinion stuff or taste issues. Right.

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Speaker 1: So if I say that chocolate ice cream is the

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Speaker 1: best ice cream and someone else, for whatever reason, is

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Speaker 1: a barbarian who really likes strawberry ice cream, this is

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Speaker 1: always a debate in my household. Clay, you know, people

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Speaker 1: are entitled to their opinions, even though on Twitter, as

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Speaker 1: you and I both know, if you say I like vanilla,

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Speaker 1: people will pile on and say why, you know, why

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Speaker 1: did your parents make so many mistakes and raising it.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm talking about with this stuff? I

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Speaker 1: noticed early on in Twitter. I went on and said,

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Speaker 1: which to me is an indisputable truth, the best cobbler

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Speaker 1: I think. I said, cobbler is really good, you know,

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Speaker 1: like and I'm a big fan of BlackBerry cobbler in particular,

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Speaker 1: And immediately people were outraged that I could really like cobbler.

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Speaker 1: And this was one of the first, like maybe the

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Speaker 1: first year that I've been on Twitter. And so what

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Speaker 1: you learn about social media is whatever you say you like,

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Speaker 1: you almost immediately get attacked, and it doesn't matter what

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Speaker 1: it is, Like I made the least offensive thing that

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Speaker 1: you could say on This is like a fun debate topic,

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Speaker 1: you know, like there's obviously controversial topics. What is the

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Speaker 1: least controversial thing that you could say on Twitter? I

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Speaker 1: mean something about food you like or cheeseburgers or better

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Speaker 1: than I think. But it like when you say even

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Speaker 1: I like hot dogs, somebody's gonna be like, what are

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Speaker 1: you crazy? Hot dogs? Or guard you damie, you'll you'll,

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Speaker 1: you'll get I got dragged for days for pointing out

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Speaker 1: that milk in your coffee is basically better than all

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Speaker 1: these oat juices and things people lost their minds of

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Speaker 1: days and days. Sorry, there's so many options. I'm like, look,

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Speaker 1: drink whatever you want. I don't care. But but anyway,

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Speaker 1: there's there's a lot of these things a week. We

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Speaker 1: could get it too. And it is true you could

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Speaker 1: say on social media today, you or I or anyone

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Speaker 1: listening could say, wow, it's a nice day, and then

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden, some account from like whether truth

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Speaker 1: dot com or something is gonna be like, why are

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Speaker 1: you such an idiot? It's not good. Whether it's actually

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Speaker 1: causing a lot of power grid issues, that doesn't. Better

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Speaker 1: enjoy it now because in ten years we're all gonna

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Speaker 1: be dead because the climate change. You can't say any

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Speaker 1: And but the worst thing is if you ask, I

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Speaker 1: wish that I could crowdsource question on this show. We

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Speaker 1: can't have a brilliant people call in with tremendous expertise.

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Speaker 1: But on social media, if you ask an honest question,

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Speaker 1: like hey, what's the best way for me to regrout

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Speaker 1: the tile in my bathroom? You get fifty responses people saying, oh,

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Speaker 1: you're such an idiot who's never done anything in his life.

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Speaker 1: You're like, okay, so, but but so I bring this

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Speaker 1: up because people, and this audience included me included. Although

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Speaker 1: it's a family dog, technically people love their dogs. You

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Speaker 1: mess with their dog and you're in a world of hurt.

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Speaker 1: And I don't even just mean obviously like actually being

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Speaker 1: the way, I'm not starting that fight right now. I'm

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Speaker 1: just saying it is something that gets people very fired

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Speaker 1: up on both sides. This veterinarian on TikTok Wit is

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Speaker 1: her name. It's kind of cute. Hey, she did a

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Speaker 1: She did the five dog breeds she wouldn't own as

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Speaker 1: a veterinarian. Coming in at number five are the Chinese cresteds.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the dogs and stuff are fine. I don't

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Speaker 1: like hairless animals. They're zitty, They're kind of greasy, saying

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Speaker 1: of cats. Number four these ankle biters. Nope, not not

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Speaker 1: just any breakycephalic breeds. I mean some of them are

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Speaker 1: I don't need anything else. Coming in at number two,

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Speaker 1: the GSD. This also applies to be Belgian Malon Walls

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Speaker 1: everyone off is the Golden Dude. Okay, so she's trying

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Speaker 1: to find Clay. This went like megaviral. People are curious,

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Speaker 1: are completely so just did'd be clear there is no

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Speaker 1: there is no community for the Chinese crested out there. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I've never even seen one, do you you know? Child?

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, New York City, Ali over here says

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Speaker 1: she you've I've never even seen a Chinese crested. That's

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Speaker 1: a thing that people see. I have no idea to me.

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Speaker 1: To me, that's like a space alien like that doesn't

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Speaker 1: even really count. But apparently Ali says they exist. They're

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Speaker 1: they're hairless in part, which is what freaks everybody out.

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Speaker 1: She mentioned chihuahuas, and I will say, our friend Tommy

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Speaker 1: Larin has a chihuahua. You go after people's chihuahuas, it's

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Speaker 1: like that you're calling their baby ugly. She went after

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Speaker 1: bulldogs and said they snore and can't breathe, which I

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Speaker 1: will say, bulldog snoring is adorable. Okay, the bulldog owners,

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Speaker 1: you have, though a breathing issue, right, Clay, Clay, come,

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Speaker 1: I understanding I have breathing issues, all right, I've got

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Speaker 1: to deviated sept them. I'm glad that nobody abandoned me.

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Speaker 1: And and then she mentioned German shepherds and Malanma. Now

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Speaker 1: doing with those dogs. Those are not like get them

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Speaker 1: pox parties. They were the opposite of COVID, right, everybody,

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Speaker 1: And they're working dogs. The same thing with the Malona.

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Speaker 1: they're you know, it's a chiwa was different from a malonoi, right,

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Speaker 1: A chow was all these dogs have different personalities inside

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Speaker 1: of the breed itself, right of which, but a Chua

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Speaker 1: that scene. And there's something about Mary with a little dog.

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Speaker 1: But any which if you haven't seen you can't make

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Speaker 1: that move anymore. But the one that I think, really,

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Speaker 1: a doodle person. I have experienced this with with doodle

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Speaker 1: the canine ownership pyramid. Here. You mess with people's doodles,

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Speaker 1: grand I mean French cheese, which goes under the brackie

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Speaker 1: there are armed robbers who steal people's frenchie people. Apparently

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Speaker 1: the snoring doesn't hurt the market value that much. Just

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Speaker 1: saying that for the bulldog owners out there, So, what

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Speaker 1: has happened to this TikTok vet? Like she's everywhere, I mean,

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Speaker 1: to be. Look, everyone needs to calm down. Ladies allowed

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Speaker 1: to have her opinions. I just think it's kind of

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Speaker 1: funny because there are there are some things I will

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Speaker 1: say this Clay. It's a little bit like I'm sure

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Speaker 1: there are people in the sports world where if you

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Speaker 1: really trash somebody's team, you're like that team sucks, They're

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Speaker 1: coaching is awful. They take it personally right, they're like,

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Speaker 1: hold on a second, like I actually really think that

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Speaker 1: team is awesome and inspiring. You go after people's dogs,

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Speaker 1: even not their individual dog, the dog breed, and this

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Speaker 1: I believe she didn't put pit bull on the list.

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Speaker 1: she went after here. But people are there are the

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Speaker 1: people that say, best family dog you could ever have,

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Speaker 1: I think that the lawyers, the Trump lawyers, say that

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Speaker 1: they've been cooperating with the FBI, And as you say,

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Speaker 1: at the end of May, a whole bunch of FBI

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Speaker 1: agents came to Marilago. They spent hours in side that

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Speaker 1: locked storage room going through these fifteen boxes of material,

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Speaker 1: and they were overseen by Trump's lawyers. And at some

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Speaker 1: point we're hearing from leaks from the Department of Justice

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Speaker 1: that those talks broke down. So, um, that's not what

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Speaker 1: I've heard from the Trump side, but you know, obviously

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Speaker 1: something happened to precipitate this and so so so then

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Speaker 1: we had the raid on Monday, and you know, there's

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Speaker 1: a leak from inside the Department of Justice which claims

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Speaker 1: that they wanted to do it in a low key way,

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Speaker 1: so they waited until Donald Trump wasn't there because the

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Speaker 1: Trump family has decamped for Bedminster, New Jersey, to his

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Speaker 1: golf resort there for the summer, and in fact, Marilago's

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Speaker 1: closed down. There's just a skeleton staff. There a lot

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Speaker 1: of the rooms that were locked and had to be

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Speaker 1: unlock by the few employees left for the FBI, And

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Speaker 1: the FBI had carte blanche, as they told the lawyers,

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Speaker 1: who sort of rushed thereafter the fact, that we can

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Speaker 1: go anywhere we want. This warrant which they waved in

447
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Speaker 1: front of them and first of all would not show

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Speaker 1: to one of Trump's lawyers, told them that they could

449
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Speaker 1: go wherever they wanted in this vast complex, and they

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Speaker 1: seemed to confine themselves to the private quarters of the

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Speaker 1: Trumps there, going into every room. They're going through closets,

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Speaker 1: including Milania Trumps I assume voluminous walk in wardrobe. And

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Speaker 1: also they spent several hours, I'm told, in a separate

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Speaker 1: part of the building in the private office of Donald Trump,

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Speaker 1: and they went through everything there. And also they had

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Speaker 1: brought along a safecracker to open the safe. It's a

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Speaker 1: hotel style safe, I'm told. Eric Trump had said that

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Speaker 1: they were nothing in the safe. I haven't heard that.

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Speaker 1: I take his word for it. And then and then

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Speaker 1: the other place they went, of course, was that locked

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Speaker 1: basement storage room with the fifteen boxes from the White House,

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Speaker 1: which they'd already had access to They I'm told did

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Speaker 1: take those boxes away, but they were you know, at

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Speaker 1: least thirty I'm told you know FBI agents. They're in

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Speaker 1: playing clothes and they spent over nine hours combing through

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Speaker 1: absolutely everything. Randa Divine of the New York Polks, Randa,

467
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Speaker 1: always great work on this. Thank you so much for

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Speaker 1: being with us. Pleasure. So we're still moments away here,

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Speaker 1: it seems from the Attorney General making a statement, we

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Speaker 1: will bring it to you alive in just a moment.

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Speaker 1: This could be big, folks, So stay with us here.

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Speaker 1: But would you turn down millions of dollars if you

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Speaker 1: were offered it every year? But there are strings attached, right,

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Speaker 1: you'd have to surround your independence. Hillsdale College says no,

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Speaker 1: despite the fact that lots of American colleges and university

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Speaker 1: take that money from the government. Hillsdale wants independence and

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Speaker 1: wants to be able to say no to government money,

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Speaker 1: which allows them that that's why they don't take that

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Speaker 1: cash and makes them free to pursue their mandate and

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Speaker 1: not the federal government's mandate for them to pursue its

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Speaker 1: original eighteen forty four Mission of Truth and the Defense

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Speaker 1: of liberty. Hillsdale has over fifteen hundred undergraduate and graduate

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Speaker 1: students on its main campus in Michigan and its satellite

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Speaker 1: campus in Washington, DC. In addition, over three million citizens

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Speaker 1: have enrolled in Hillsdale's free online courses. You can learn

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Speaker 1: more about Hillsdale's independence from government and its mission of

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Speaker 1: defending liberty. Go online to Clay and Buck for Hillsdale

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Speaker 1: dot com. Again, that's Clay and Buck for Hillsdale dot com.

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Speaker 1: We'll bring you Merrick Garland here in just a second.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show, final segment,

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Speaker 1: Thursday edition of the program. Encourage you to go download

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Speaker 1: the podcast. Make sure you don't miss a moment. We

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Speaker 1: are still waiting for Merrick Garland's press conference, which was

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Speaker 1: initially scheduled for two thirty Eastern, coming up on twenty

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Speaker 1: minutes late. For that, it's possible that we're not going

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Speaker 1: to get any of that for you, in which case

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Speaker 1: we'd encourage you to keep hanging on for Sean Hannity

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Speaker 1: coming up next on many of the same stations as

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Speaker 1: we wait to see what, if any information of any

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Speaker 1: consequence Merrick Garland is going to give us. We think

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Speaker 1: that it will be mostly bland just and will he

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Speaker 1: take any questions. I would guess the answer would be no,

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Speaker 1: mostly bland blaming people for being angry about this raid.

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Speaker 1: But maybe we'll usually get some form of news. I

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Speaker 1: think you're gonna get boiler played about how we do

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Speaker 1: our job without fear or favor, and the Justice Department

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Speaker 1: operates without political considerations, and the usual smarmy Merrick Garland, razzle, dazzle,

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Speaker 1: you know, the usual two step. I think that's what

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Speaker 1: are gonna see. But they know that this whole Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: they just rated a president's home on Monday. That's not

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Speaker 1: gonna fly. You know, you don't just do that and

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Speaker 1: then act like it's business as usual. It was really

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Speaker 1: Miranda gave us some really interesting context. Mernda divine just

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Speaker 1: now about how they went when it's so low key.

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Speaker 1: But I mean, you know, in terms of the time

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Speaker 1: of the year, mar Lagos basically shut down. Now Trump

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Speaker 1: is up at Bedminster where we were hanging out with

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Speaker 1: them a couple of weeks ago, and so did they

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Speaker 1: really think that they could they could sneak this one

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Speaker 1: under the radar? Was that really? I started talking about

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Speaker 1: yesterday Buck because remember Trump was the one who broke

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Speaker 1: the news that this rated, but there's basically nobody there

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Speaker 1: was the other way I was thinking, I forgot mar Lago.

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Speaker 1: Clay usually has members everywhere. You know, some of our

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Speaker 1: buddies are hanging out down there. I mean last time

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Speaker 1: I was there, I was high five in Mike Lindel

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Speaker 1: like you see people right, Nobody was there this time. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And the fact that they made the Trump attorneys stand

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Speaker 1: out in the for reporting that they reportedly had to

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Speaker 1: stand out in the parking lot as this nine hour

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Speaker 1: plus raid was going on. I just I feel like somehow,

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Speaker 1: some way the bureaucracy overrated how quiet this was going

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Speaker 1: to be, or in some way didn't recognize how significant

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Speaker 1: what they were undertaking was. And that's why the most

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Speaker 1: interesting part of this to me could be if Merrick

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Speaker 1: Garland walled himself off and said I'm not I wasn't

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Speaker 1: involved in the decision the FBI made the choice that

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Speaker 1: they had evidence that they needed to procure. That would

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Speaker 1: be interesting because it would suggest that this is such

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Speaker 1: a mess, such a mushroom cloud, that people are trying

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Speaker 1: to start to scurry to avoid being caught up in

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Speaker 1: this explosion. I don't know that we'll get that. And

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Speaker 1: again I find it hard to believe that Joe Biden

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Speaker 1: didn't know that Marek Garland didn't go. Certainly, we know

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Speaker 1: who may the decision. Are we gonna believe that a

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Speaker 1: relatively low level like head of head of the the

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Speaker 1: Palm Beach FBI or I guess it'd be in West

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Speaker 1: Palm wherever it is field office, the you know, Palm

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Speaker 1: Beach County FBI. It seems no, les. It seems highly

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Speaker 1: unlikely that somebody that far down the food chain could

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Speaker 1: decide to Again, we've talked about this, you would have

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Speaker 1: to have high level contact with the Secret Service. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: in order for this raid to take place. It's not

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Speaker 1: even imagine it's not occurring at the highest possible levels.

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Speaker 1: And that's not even reassuring in its own ways, because

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Speaker 1: as I said, this is so politically volatile for the

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Speaker 1: whole country that it should be you should have the

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Speaker 1: Attorney General looking at this and saying, guys, if we're

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Speaker 1: going in there, there has to be an ironclad reason.

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Speaker 1: It has to be one by the book, and it

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Speaker 1: has to be explainable to the American people. So it

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Speaker 1: can't just be we're gonna try to get Donald Trump

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Speaker 1: over or classified documents that are still in boxes inside

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Speaker 1: of Mara Lago, because again, there's no way that the

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Speaker 1: intent if it's random boxes. I mean, I used as

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Speaker 1: an example, if you've ever moved, how often does it

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Speaker 1: take you forever to even know where anything is packed?

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Speaker 1: Trump was not involved in packing the boxes that were

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Speaker 1: packed up to leave the White House. Yeah, and if anything,

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Speaker 1: they should just have a different process then for the

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Speaker 1: exit of a former president, to make sure that you know,

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Speaker 1: there's some body I get. I'm sure they've already looked

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Speaker 1: over this stuff, you know, but this is not something

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Speaker 1: that has any The boxes of possibly classified documents, for

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Speaker 1: obvious reasons, have no criminal implications for Donald Trump himself

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Speaker 1: as a matter of holding in a holding national defense

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Speaker 1: information and violation of the Espionage Act. That is, if

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Speaker 1: that's their game here, and Clay, I don't know, maybe

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Speaker 1: it is. If that's their game year. The DOJ's credibilities

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Speaker 1: in for a world of heart beyond what we've already seen.

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Speaker 1: People are gonna say, you just can't, you can't trust

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Speaker 1: these clowns at all with anything, And think about how

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Speaker 1: far we would have fallen down the criminality floodplain. Here

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Speaker 1: we would have gone from this guy had direct interaction

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Speaker 1: with Vladimir Putin to stage a default coup to allow

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Speaker 1: himself to be elected president. Too well, some of the

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Speaker 1: boxes that had random paraphernalia from inside of the White

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Speaker 1: House were classified and shouldn't have been still locked up

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Speaker 1: in a closet at Mara Lagos. It's a pretty big

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Speaker 1: difference in criminality. The government, as a matter of course,

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Speaker 1: and I know this firsthand from being a classification originator,

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Speaker 1: massively overclassifies tons of stuff. You know, they're constantly you know,

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Speaker 1: they're constantly marketing things in a way that goes way

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Speaker 1: bey on whether there's actually any sensitivity to you know,

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Speaker 1: because a lot of it becomes a judgment call. Does

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Speaker 1: this create sensitive issues for government relations? Classified? You know

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Speaker 1: they'll mark that confidential, and they'll mark that secret. Well

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Speaker 1: what does that even mean? Right? Obviously supersensitive information about

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Speaker 1: the capabilities of like the F twenty two raptor yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's classified. So we don't want our enemies to know

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Speaker 1: what our planes could do for example. But you know,

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Speaker 1: Trump's sitting down and having a meeting with a foreign

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Speaker 1: head of state, where everyone knows what was said in

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Speaker 1: the room or where everyone took photos together, and there's

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Speaker 1: some handwritten note from Trump about it. They might say

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Speaker 1: that's classified, but that's over classification as the point, so

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Speaker 1: that happened. Not only that, Remember we had Cosh Patel

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Speaker 1: on in May and he's the classification authority. Trump himself

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Speaker 1: not to interrupt, right, So yeah, there's the possibility. The

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Speaker 1: defense one could be that the warrant's not valid because

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Speaker 1: of judge related issues, because of potentially the warrant was

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Speaker 1: not specific enough, the warrant shouldn't have been granted, as

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Speaker 1: we've seen happened in Russia collusion. But also there's a

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Speaker 1: pretty strong defense here that Trump didn't know about the

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Speaker 1: documents that were involved, and also that some of these

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Speaker 1: may have already been declassified, as that's what Kash Patel

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Speaker 1: came on and told us is a large extent of

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Speaker 1: the issues. The president has the ability to declassify documents.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes there's a conflict over whether that occurred or not.

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Speaker 1: This is just a really messy case in general to

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Speaker 1: be getting the amount of attention that it's getting, and

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Speaker 1: evidently now we're gonna have cash Patel on by the

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Speaker 1: way on Monday. Buck, you're gonna be out tomorrow. And

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Speaker 1: it looks like Attorney General Mary Garland is going to

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Speaker 1: be at least a half hour late now to his

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Speaker 1: home press conference, and we're not going to get to

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Speaker 1: talk about what gonna ice us out here. I think

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Speaker 1: he knows. You think that they were waiting their way.

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Speaker 1: Got to get off there because Marek is not going

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Speaker 1: to do well. If those guys powerful, we can't allow

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Speaker 1: them to immediately handle what we say and dissect everything.

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Speaker 1: And so we're gonna wait till right after they go

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Speaker 1: off the air. So I'll be talking about it tomorrow. Buck,

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Speaker 1: you're gonna be out on Friday. You'll be back Monday.

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Speaker 1: Ye have a good time. Thank you. It's gonna be

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Speaker 1: fun looking forward to Clay is gonna make sense of

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Speaker 1: all of what is about to be said by Merrick

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Speaker 1: Garland for everybody across the country. And Clay, I think

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Speaker 1: I think you ain't busy tomorrow. You know, just make

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Speaker 1: sure you and producer Dub clean up the kegs before

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Speaker 1: I get back. Who knows. Have fun at out of

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Speaker 1: the Hampton's at the high End at the high End

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Speaker 1: Beach trip of the New York City Elite. I'm sure

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Speaker 1: you're gonna have an awesome time there. You'd be back

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Speaker 1: on Monday. We'll be breaking down tons of different stories

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Speaker 1: for you. We'll tell you whatever Marek Garland said, assuming

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Speaker 1: he ever comes out and talks. You can keep hanging

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Speaker 1: out with Sean Hannity on down the line here and

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Speaker 1: we will be with you tomorrow