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Speaker 1: Sable advice. Shoot. Hello, we welcome to the not even

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Speaker 1: Nice Show. I'm Robbed Shoot to his Monday, which means

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Speaker 1: our dear friend Garrett Vogel from Z one hundred is back.

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Speaker 1: Hey Garrett, are you there? Rob Shooter back from holiday?

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Speaker 1: Hello naughties? Hello everyone? Yeah, I know you've missed me.

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Speaker 1: I am back. We did we did you? We did you?

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Speaker 1: In Greece? Do you have an all overtime? Oh? An amazing,

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Speaker 1: amazing holiday. I'm saying holiday because I'm I'm European now

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Speaker 1: and I'm just like you, Robbed minus the accent. Oh,

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Speaker 1: incredible time with the family. Uh. And I didn't even

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Speaker 1: know it, but MoMA Mia three was filming while I

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Speaker 1: was in Greece. I mean Greece was what was just

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Speaker 1: happened with people? Uh? There was a big movie premiere

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Speaker 1: a three feta cheese. It was awesome. Of course we

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Speaker 1: missed you, of course? How much did you miss me? Terribly?

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Speaker 1: Me personally terribly. I love you, Garrett. I've known you

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Speaker 1: for years and years and years. It's amazing how you

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Speaker 1: don't think about friendship very often until that person is

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Speaker 1: gone for a day or two or a week or two,

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Speaker 1: and I miss you terribly. We gossip all the time,

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Speaker 1: we text all the time. I think what makes the

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Speaker 1: podcast a success, apart from my amazing talent, of course,

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Speaker 1: is the fact that we're all real friends, every one

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Speaker 1: of the co hosts on the show. We're all real friends,

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Speaker 1: and we've been friends for years and years and years.

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Speaker 1: And that you know how much friends, how big of

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Speaker 1: a friend I consider you. I spend data on you

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Speaker 1: to send you a text message from Greece as I'm

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Speaker 1: eating gelato. That's how much I love you. I spend

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Speaker 1: the money. I probably spent a hundred dollars on one

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Speaker 1: twenty cents that I will pay you back when I

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Speaker 1: see you. My friends, Let's jump into the show. What

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Speaker 1: time is it is? Victoria? At the top of the show,

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Speaker 1: kind of a sad, shocking story, shaw Menders is postponing

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Speaker 1: health issues. It's also an inspiring story everybody. So Sean

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Speaker 1: he said he's postponing the shows on his World Tour.

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Speaker 1: He wrote the following quote, This breaks my heart to

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Speaker 1: have to say this, but unfortunately I'm going to have

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Speaker 1: I'm told it could be even longer. So he went

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Speaker 1: on to say, I've been touring now since I was fifteen,

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Speaker 1: and to be honest with you, it's always been difficult

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Speaker 1: I need to take some time to heal, take care

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Speaker 1: of myself and my mental health. What do you think, Garrett,

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Speaker 1: It's interesting. We've seen this a lot. We We saw

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Speaker 1: and I think it's interesting we see this now. Imagine

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Speaker 1: it's very, very expensive. Now. I can tell you this

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Speaker 1: Rob Shooter. I got to go to you know what

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