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Speaker 1: Alright, this is Chase that Lee. It's the Philly Show.

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Speaker 2: Hey, everybody, Ruben Tomorrow, Junior, Jim Salisbury, Todd, Zeleki. Opening

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Speaker 2: day is almost here. Guys, are you excited?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Jim, I am brimming with excitement.

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Speaker 2: I can tell I can tell you we're all.

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Speaker 1: I'm very excited.

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Speaker 3: Sounded just like uh it was it Alec Baldwin when

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Speaker 3: he did that sweaty balls thing.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I love that. That is one of the great fame.

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Speaker 1: That is one of the greatest s n L skits

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Speaker 1: ever of all time. That one great one guest tire

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Speaker 1: that was her name and a guest stire is her

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Speaker 1: guest's top notch. We should get her as a guest

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Speaker 1: on the Todd Pod. What do you think you can

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Speaker 1: get pulled off? Rubery? You know everybody?

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Speaker 4: I know, I do know. We're tight.

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Speaker 2: Opening day is Thursday, four or five pm. Phillies Nationals

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Speaker 2: at Nationals Park. Zach Wheeler against Mackenzie Gore. It's the

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Speaker 2: first time the Phillies have opened a season in Washington

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Speaker 2: since April fifth. I remember that ten twenty ten.

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Speaker 4: I remember that.

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Speaker 2: You might remember Roy Halliday's first start for the Phillies.

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Speaker 2: They won eleven one that day. Roy pitched seven innings,

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Speaker 2: gave up one run. Can you guys come up with

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Speaker 2: Charlie Manuel's starting lineup that day in proper order? See

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Speaker 2: if you guys can do it. I just looked it up.

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Speaker 1: I remember that day. Well, the doctor was in a.

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Speaker 4: I was white.

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Speaker 1: I was.

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Speaker 4: I will tell you this, I was white. Knucklub, you

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Speaker 4: were white?

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Speaker 2: Knock Why because you're just worried nervous about Roy.

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Speaker 4: I mean it was a big thing.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 4: We'd just gotten Roy. We had just traded away Cliff.

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Speaker 1: What year was that ten?

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Speaker 2: Ten?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? You had, you had?

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Speaker 2: Uh Ruiz will give me the proper leading off the line, lead.

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Speaker 1: Off, lead off, Jimmy Jay rowl And who's hitting Vic Victory.

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Speaker 2: Nope, hot bag nope?

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Speaker 4: Jason Worth Nope.

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Speaker 2: Wow he homered this day. This two hole hitter, not

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Speaker 2: a home run hitter placedo poloonco Holly hit second. Holly

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Speaker 2: hit second that day, hit a home hit third, Yes,

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Speaker 2: sir Howard. Then Howard left, he's hitting back to back

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Speaker 1: Where we are now six.

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Speaker 2: Six six hole?

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Speaker 1: Vic?

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Speaker 2: Another outfielder, No, No, I was hitting six. Then he

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Speaker 2: had Victorino seven and Choot hit in eighth hit, Nate.

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Speaker 4: Roy Hallad hitting it in a nine hole. They didn't

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Speaker 4: flip up. They ate nine to eys.

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Speaker 2: They didn't flip the eight and nine guy. So today

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Speaker 2: we're gonna talk. We're gonna we're gonna jump into some

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty five previews, predictions. We're gonna have some other

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Speaker 2: stuff planned. But I gotta I got to open with this.

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Speaker 2: So this guy emailed me. I don't want to give

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Speaker 2: his last name in case he doesn't want me to

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Speaker 2: mention his last name. This guy fan of the show's

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Speaker 2: name is George George T. He says, hey, man, I

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Speaker 2: have something that you might want for your wall. Can

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Speaker 2: I send something to you? So I go, yeah, absolutely,

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Speaker 2: I come back from spring training. Look what I get

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Speaker 2: in the mail? Then amorrow baseball card nineteen ninety two

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Speaker 2: upper deck.

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Speaker 1: What are you doing chopping wood?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 4: You see that pitch is right by my right knee.

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Speaker 3: That's Greg Maddox's freeze it on the inside part of

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Speaker 3: the plate.

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Speaker 4: Sinker for strike three problems.

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Speaker 1: That's a little Greg Mannix hip shot.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that is gretty.

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Speaker 2: I was so pumped to get this And look at

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Speaker 2: this on the back I don't recall what you looks. Wow,

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Speaker 2: well if you're if you're not, if you're listening in

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Speaker 2: your car right now, it's the Ruben's got this black

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Speaker 2: pea hat with the black fills written on the front.

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Speaker 2: I don't know whatever.

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Speaker 4: We went to some old school that year. I think

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Speaker 4: we had like four or five different uniforms, maybe even

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Speaker 3: We I think we rotated them through like every Saturday

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Speaker 2: So I got this card. So thanks George for send

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Speaker 2: me the Ruben card. I want to put this on

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Speaker 2: my wall somewhere. I got to figure out. Now, I

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Speaker 2: I gotta figure out who I'm gonna cover up with

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Speaker 2: the Ruben card.

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Speaker 4: Greg Jefferies cover heavy pulled out.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I like Greg, but he was yeah funny, that's funny.

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Speaker 4: That's mine.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah yeah.

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Speaker 2: So and then one other thing before we get going,

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Speaker 2: A couple of other things before we get going. Look

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Speaker 2: at this, guys. We have a giveaway coming for Manco

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Speaker 2: the name of your favorite Phillies player, So whoever that

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Speaker 2: We are back. Okay, twenty twenty five, guys. Opening day

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Speaker 2: is Thursday. Like I said four oh five at Nationals Park,

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Speaker 2: the world series. Why we might be you know what

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Speaker 2: might have make us a little bit concerned. Let's start

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Speaker 2: with the biggest reason for optimism. Let's start right there, like,

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Speaker 2: what what's the why might the Phillies be playing in

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Speaker 1: Biggest bit of optimism for me is that starting rotation

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Speaker 1: Is uh, Their starting staff thinks a very good one,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, sadly, I'm right with you, James. I really believe

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Speaker 4: But I love the rest of that rotation. Man, it's

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Speaker 3: I think when the bell rangs, Man, he's gonna hype

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's really exciting to watch his numbers and

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Speaker 4: Too, because I think he's going to be one of

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Speaker 2: Yeah, one hundred percent. You think about Andrew Painter maybe

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Speaker 4: Gentlemen, this man is a beast.

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Speaker 3: He's gigantic, and he's also really well proportioned. I mean,

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Speaker 3: hard to the pull side and then you know, able

441
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Speaker 3: to fully the ball to the opposite field. I like

442
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Speaker 3: a lot of the things. I mean, Alec Bohum was

443
00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:52,480
Speaker 3: wearing out that right center field right handed. I mean,

444
00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:55,680
Speaker 3: you know, base hit after base hit to the right

445
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Speaker 3: side of the field, which is sort of his bread

446
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Speaker 3: and butter. He'll lengthen some stuff out and get out

447
00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:02,640
Speaker 3: in front of some stuff as he gets older, as

448
00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:03,600
Speaker 3: he gets more mature.

449
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Speaker 4: I like some I like a lot of things that

450
00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:07,360
Speaker 4: are happening.

451
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Speaker 3: Of course, they got to do it on the field,

452
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Speaker 3: but there's some positivity going on.

453
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Speaker 2: Bryce and Stott and Brandon Marsh combined for twenty eight

454
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Speaker 2: walks of spring and it was eight walk so and

455
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Speaker 2: you know, you know, some of those guys they probably

456
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Speaker 2: were facing in the middle of the game late, couldn't

457
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Speaker 2: throw a strike to save their lives, I mean, minor

458
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Speaker 2: leaguers or whatever. But not all of them, not all

459
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Speaker 2: of them. I mean, Brandon Marsh had some pretty good

460
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Speaker 2: at bats this spring against left hand some pretty good,

461
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Speaker 2: like legit left handed pitchers this spring. You know, Garrit Crochet,

462
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Speaker 2: Trek Schouble, a few other guys, and you know, he

463
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Speaker 2: put up some pretty decent numbers against lefties to Spring

464
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Speaker 2: and Stott. You know, he says he's healthy and uh,

465
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Speaker 2: you know he really likes kind of what he's been

466
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Speaker 2: able to do. So yeah, you're right, especially that you

467
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Speaker 2: can get your eight nine guy to do just to

468
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Speaker 2: get on base, that'd be great.

469
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Speaker 4: Roll that line up.

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Speaker 2: Over, yep, yep.

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Speaker 1: So anybody got any bold predictions as we sit here

472
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Speaker 1: on the eve of opening Day?

473
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Speaker 2: Well I got a I got a bold prediction and

474
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Speaker 2: this is going to be in my Phillies Beat newsletter

475
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Speaker 2: coming out on Thursday morning. But my my bold prediction

476
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Speaker 2: is this. Jose Alvarado is the first Phillies reliever to

477
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Speaker 2: save thirty games in a season since Jen Mar Gomez

478
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Speaker 2: is thirty seven and twenty six.

479
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Speaker 4: Mark Gomez had thirty seven. Did I acquire that guy?

480
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Speaker 7: I don't know who acquired him, but.

481
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Speaker 1: You may have in Cleveland. Maybe that's crazy.

482
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Speaker 2: He and I also have. Jose Alvarado leads all lefty

483
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Speaker 2: relievers in baseball and strikeouts, lefty relievers in strikeouts.

484
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Speaker 1: So that's all you're out there, You're out there.

485
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Speaker 2: That's I mean, that's we're going selection.

486
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Speaker 7: That is impressing, because let's be honest, Rob Thompson does

487
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Speaker 7: not go with the closer usually, and and I see

488
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Speaker 7: Rob Thompson really mixing and matching guys, especially after there's

489
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Speaker 7: a bunch of like a really big lefty coming up in.

490
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Speaker 2: The eighth inning. I see Rob going out. But hey,

491
00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:09,600
Speaker 2: we're trying to be be bold as a Remember.

492
00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:12,720
Speaker 4: Those shirts, Yes they had v A.

493
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Speaker 1: Well, you want me to give my ball prediction now,

494
00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:23,639
Speaker 1: yes I do. Christopher Sanchez will finish in the top

495
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Speaker 1: three of the cy Young.

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Speaker 4: Oh my god, that was exactly mine.

497
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Speaker 1: I've got to change mine now, really was exactly I

498
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Speaker 1: swear to.

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Speaker 8: God, the top three.

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Speaker 4: I swear to you as I say here, that's exactly

501
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Speaker 4: what was what I was going to present. But I'll

502
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Speaker 4: make an adjustment.

503
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Speaker 1: That's the key to the game, making adjustments.

504
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Speaker 2: Great ones always make adjustments, Reuben.

505
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Speaker 3: I don't know if I'm a great one, but I'll

506
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Speaker 3: make the adjust great one, all right, what.

507
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Speaker 1: Do you got adjust? I think fast, think fastball, adjust

508
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Speaker 1: to the breaking ball boom.

509
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Speaker 3: I'm gonna say Bryce's Stott will hit three hundred or

510
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Speaker 3: more this season, and he will be only one one

511
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Speaker 3: of probably five in the entire league that.

512
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Speaker 4: I'm talking about. National and American League.

513
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Speaker 1: And then and then, and they need that. They need

514
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Speaker 1: improvement from Stott and Tredye Turner. They need those guys

515
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Speaker 1: to be really good and really help them.

516
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Speaker 3: I think he's gonna hit three hundred and I think

517
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Speaker 3: he's gonna be one of very few guys to do.

518
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Speaker 1: That's a good one.

519
00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:27,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a great one. Actually, it's funny. I just

520
00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:29,919
Speaker 2: in case you guys, any you guys had mentioned Alrado,

521
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Speaker 2: I did. I did write down Bryson Stott makes his

522
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Speaker 2: first NL All Star team, and I also wrote down

523
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Speaker 2: Zach Wheeler finished his second for NL cy Young because

524
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Speaker 2: Christopher Sanchez stole a lot of a lot of votes

525
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Speaker 2: for him for Cy Young, so they kind of split

526
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Speaker 2: the Phillies tickets.

527
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Speaker 1: Of style and then comes up with it, all right, Ruben,

528
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Speaker 1: you got my you got my wheels turning here with that.

529
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Speaker 1: So Stott, with this great year you got him having,

530
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Speaker 1: does he ascend to the leadoff hole?

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Speaker 4: He does when he does after the first month of

532
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Speaker 4: the season.

533
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Speaker 1: Wow, I love that. You are really bringing the heat tonight.

534
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Speaker 1: You're bringing the noise.

535
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Speaker 3: I'm telling you now what I'm bringing like that? Uh,

536
00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:17,760
Speaker 3: Andrew Painter cheddar.

537
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Speaker 2: Bringing the noise, some high cheese, my man, jeez.

538
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Speaker 1: All right, you want to do some predictions here. I

539
00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:28,040
Speaker 1: came up with a list of like you know.

540
00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:33,639
Speaker 2: What, oh, prop like props, like over unders.

541
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Speaker 1: Sure, let's do some over I got those? Or am

542
00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:40,160
Speaker 1: I am? I stepping on your toes? Tod? No, No, no,

543
00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:43,879
Speaker 1: not at all. Let's do this step all right, stop

544
00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:44,240
Speaker 1: on him.

545
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Speaker 4: He's got quick.

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Speaker 1: Answers, quick answers. How many home runs? Wou Bryce Harper have?

547
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Speaker 2: How many home runs?

548
00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:56,520
Speaker 4: I have a number right in my head? Go ahead, Todd.

549
00:26:56,640 --> 00:27:00,920
Speaker 2: I was gonna say thirty five, thirty seven, big numbers,

550
00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:01,920
Speaker 2: thirty seven.

551
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:05,320
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say Bryce Harper has thirty two.

552
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:08,240
Speaker 2: I think I think he's gonna hit thirty five because

553
00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:11,160
Speaker 2: remember last year he actually banged his elbow, is banged

554
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:13,439
Speaker 2: up back. He didn't want to talk about it a lot,

555
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:15,240
Speaker 2: and that kind of sapped them some power.

556
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:17,199
Speaker 4: He had a really seven.

557
00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:19,440
Speaker 1: Wow, that's a lot of hard runs. Thirty two is

558
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:21,920
Speaker 1: a lot of home runs. I mean, yes, how about

559
00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:25,880
Speaker 1: how about Schwarves? How many home runs are Kyle Schwarmer.

560
00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:28,360
Speaker 2: Forty one?

561
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:30,000
Speaker 1: Wow? Big number?

562
00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:33,000
Speaker 3: He's going to go into that free agency exact same number,

563
00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:34,119
Speaker 3: thirty seven.

564
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:35,880
Speaker 2: Well, thirty seven, Okay.

565
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:38,880
Speaker 1: I think Kyle Schwarmer. I got him for thirty.

566
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Speaker 2: Nine, thirty nine for swar Schwarves.

567
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:43,760
Speaker 1: All right, here's that Schwarves.

568
00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:47,120
Speaker 4: I do think Schwarves will hit to fifty again this year.

569
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Speaker 1: All right, this is get you thinking camp on who

570
00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:58,520
Speaker 1: leads the team in leadoff plate appearances.

571
00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:05,359
Speaker 2: Oh, that's a great question, Bruh, that's right. I mean

572
00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:06,720
Speaker 2: you have to stick to your guns. If you said

573
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:10,240
Speaker 2: Scott's gonna take over after the first month, I'm gonna

574
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:13,040
Speaker 2: say Kyle Schwarber. And I'm gonna say Kyle Swarber because

575
00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:17,800
Speaker 2: if if Rob actually does go through with the split situation,

576
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:20,480
Speaker 2: that means he's gonna be hitting leadoff most games with

577
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:22,880
Speaker 2: the right handed pitcher on the mound. So and then also,

578
00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:24,920
Speaker 2: I think there's a chance also, I think there's a

579
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:27,760
Speaker 2: chance for Rob just goes listen, I think trays at bats,

580
00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:30,440
Speaker 2: Schwarber is having better at bats and lead off spot.

581
00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:32,600
Speaker 2: We're just gonna we're gonna running back out there the

582
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:34,800
Speaker 2: rest of the way. So I'm going Coyleege Shwarber mostly

583
00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:36,680
Speaker 2: off played appearances.

584
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:41,920
Speaker 1: I'm going I'm going Kyle Schwarber as well, They've won

585
00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:44,360
Speaker 1: a lot of ball games the last three years with him,

586
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Speaker 1: and I just think at some point he's gonna be

587
00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:50,200
Speaker 1: like that old comfortable pair of slippers that you throw

588
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:53,240
Speaker 1: on that we'll always feel good. So I think he's

589
00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:55,240
Speaker 1: gonna end up back there like these.

590
00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:02,280
Speaker 2: Look at those. That was like a comfortable pair of slippers.

591
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 1: I think, Kyle Schwver, I'm I'm picking up what you're

592
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:08,640
Speaker 1: laying down. So all right, I love it, all right,

593
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:13,440
Speaker 1: give me let me see keep them coming, keep him coming,

594
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:15,840
Speaker 1: keep him coming. Oh yeah, all right, hold on, I

595
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:17,800
Speaker 1: gotta cross off what I got here. So because I

596
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:19,680
Speaker 1: want to, I want to vary my I want to

597
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:23,160
Speaker 1: save some of my big professionals. James trying really hard.

598
00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:27,840
Speaker 1: How many innings for Zach Wheeler? Now, last year he

599
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:30,400
Speaker 1: was only one of four major league pitchers to get

600
00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:35,640
Speaker 1: to two hundred. How many innings this year for Zach Wheeler.

601
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:41,520
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go cerebral here, go ahead, go ahead, Ruben,

602
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:43,360
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go one ninety five.

603
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:45,600
Speaker 3: And I'll tell you why, because they're gonna go to

604
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:48,400
Speaker 3: a six man rotation at some point. Ye, So I'm

605
00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:51,360
Speaker 3: gonna say one ninety five. He's gonna get close between

606
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Speaker 3: one ninety one ninety five, I'll go on high end

607
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:54,040
Speaker 3: one ninety five.

608
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:56,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was, I was thinking the same thing. I'm

609
00:29:56,960 --> 00:30:01,240
Speaker 2: just gonna say. I'm gonna say one ninety and he

610
00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:02,200
Speaker 2: won't be happy about it.

611
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:04,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, he won't be to be happy about it.

612
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:06,760
Speaker 2: He will understand, but he won't be happy about it.

613
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:10,600
Speaker 1: Boom. I was gonna say the same thing under two

614
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:13,560
Speaker 1: hundred because they're gonna watch him because October is so important.

615
00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:16,720
Speaker 1: He's so important. He's gonna comit under two hundred, not

616
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:20,200
Speaker 1: be happy, but he'll have some juice for October.

617
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:21,280
Speaker 4: So I'll also say this.

618
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Speaker 3: I think it's gonna be Aaron Nola's lowest in some

619
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:27,320
Speaker 3: time as far as a full season is concerned. Not

620
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Speaker 3: I mean exclusive of twenty twenty. Yeah, I think he's

621
00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:32,920
Speaker 3: gonna be in a one seventy one seventy five range.

622
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:35,880
Speaker 3: But that's okay because he's gonna be pitching down on

623
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:39,800
Speaker 3: the rotation as a three. So he may only get

624
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Speaker 3: twenty eight or twenty nine starts.

625
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:43,760
Speaker 1: Because they're gonna sprinkle into sixth.

626
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:45,520
Speaker 4: Sprinkling that sixth starter.

627
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:48,160
Speaker 1: Too, such a premium on October, no.

628
00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:51,320
Speaker 4: Doubt, you know, September, especially September.

629
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Speaker 1: The Dodgers are talking a lot about, you know, when

630
00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:57,000
Speaker 1: Andrew Peter's starters innings and getting saving you know, not

631
00:30:57,120 --> 00:31:01,200
Speaker 1: saving for October, but having you know, optimizing him for October. Okay,

632
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:04,920
Speaker 1: who is this team's leader in saves?

633
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 2: Well, I'm gonna i gotta stick with I said my

634
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:10,320
Speaker 2: bold prediction. O. I'm gonna say, hoo is Alvarado. I'm

635
00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:13,480
Speaker 2: gonna say he say, yeah, So I'm just gonna go Alvarado.

636
00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 1: All right, I'm gonna go with Jordan Romano.

637
00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:19,560
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go off the board and go.

638
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:23,560
Speaker 1: Oh. Ryan Kirker a very nice pick, very nice pick.

639
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:26,840
Speaker 4: He's gonna step forward. Man, he's gonna be lights out.

640
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:30,200
Speaker 2: I remember when we talked with Caleb Cougham, the Phillies

641
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:33,800
Speaker 2: pitching coach back in January. It was Jim You asked

642
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:36,000
Speaker 2: him you think Kirker and could be a twenty save

643
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:38,320
Speaker 2: elite level guy, and he said He's like, that's not

644
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:40,520
Speaker 2: even a question for me, or something like that. It

645
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:42,520
Speaker 2: was like, yeah, one hundred percent, I don't even need

646
00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:43,160
Speaker 2: to think about it.

647
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:44,120
Speaker 4: I think right.

648
00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:49,080
Speaker 1: Immediately. Yeah, that was my one in January at the

649
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:50,880
Speaker 1: turn of the New Year. We did give us some

650
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:53,959
Speaker 1: full predictions for the New Year, and I had did

651
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:57,040
Speaker 1: say that kirkering twenty two to twenty five saves.

652
00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 4: But now I'm going to a political waffler. Man here,

653
00:31:59,640 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 4: I'm a.

654
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 1: I'm a waffle I can't trust the word out of

655
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:05,080
Speaker 1: your mouth.

656
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:06,560
Speaker 8: Three.

657
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:09,040
Speaker 1: But you knowman, I will get twenty four right, So

658
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:18,040
Speaker 1: don't take this stuff to the bank, folks. So okay,

659
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 1: I gotta cross that one off because I got a

660
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:20,640
Speaker 1: lot of good ones here.

661
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 4: How about Philly's ws?

662
00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:27,400
Speaker 1: Rubin Ruben, who is running this show?

663
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:29,160
Speaker 4: I don't know, but you're taking your time? How many

664
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:30,640
Speaker 4: how many w's you think they're gonna have?

665
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:30,880
Speaker 1: Ze?

666
00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:34,000
Speaker 2: Oh wait, that wasn't ready.

667
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:38,040
Speaker 1: I wasn't ready for w's. Trey Turner steals.

668
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:39,960
Speaker 2: Oh, t Turner steals.

669
00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:42,640
Speaker 1: Oh, I got a lot of good ones on here.

670
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 4: That's a good one.

671
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:47,520
Speaker 2: I'm going to say. You know, everybody kind of goes

672
00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:51,320
Speaker 2: in the season thinking that Tracious steal forties fifty sixty bags.

673
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:54,280
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna say he steals twenty eight, twenty eight

674
00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:57,040
Speaker 2: bags from the top spot. He talks a lot about

675
00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:59,000
Speaker 2: how he doesn't feel like he can run with Bryce

676
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:00,800
Speaker 2: behind him, or he kind of doesn't run in certain

677
00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:03,480
Speaker 2: situations because Bryce is hitting behind him. So I'm gonna

678
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:05,880
Speaker 2: say he steals twenty twenty eight.

679
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 4: What do you got, Jim?

680
00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:10,880
Speaker 1: I was gonna say thirty three.

681
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:15,240
Speaker 4: Oh my god, I can't believe you just said that number.

682
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:16,000
Speaker 1: Really.

683
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:19,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm gonna use my other number, thirty seven. Okay,

684
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 4: thirty three was my number, Jim when I played.

685
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:23,760
Speaker 1: No, it was Larry Bird's number.

686
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 4: Well who was more important?

687
00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:27,120
Speaker 9: He or me?

688
00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:32,440
Speaker 1: Well, we won't answer that one, all right, all right,

689
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:39,040
Speaker 1: moving along swiftly? Here, moving along swiftly. Okay, here's a

690
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:44,440
Speaker 1: good one. Will jt Real Muco or Kyle schwar Wher

691
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:48,320
Speaker 1: both free agents receive a contract extension during the season.

692
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:51,160
Speaker 4: They will not.

693
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:54,000
Speaker 1: I agree, they will not.

694
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:55,240
Speaker 4: They will not.

695
00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:57,440
Speaker 2: I agree.

696
00:33:57,480 --> 00:33:57,920
Speaker 4: That's okay.

697
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:01,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I feel the same way.

698
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 4: I'm going to say no.

699
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:05,240
Speaker 2: And I say no, not because the Phillies don't want

700
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:07,600
Speaker 2: to bring them back, or that they don't want to resign.

701
00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:10,600
Speaker 2: I think that at this point, it's just let's just

702
00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:12,640
Speaker 2: see how the year goes. Let's see how your goes,

703
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:14,320
Speaker 2: Let's see how you guys do, Let's see how the

704
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:17,319
Speaker 2: team does. And if the team does well, and they

705
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:20,719
Speaker 2: do well and they want to reunite, the money will

706
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:23,840
Speaker 2: be found and it will happen. So, you know, I

707
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:26,440
Speaker 2: think if that doesn't happen, I don't think people need

708
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:28,880
Speaker 2: to freak out. You know, they resigned Aaron Nola when

709
00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:31,400
Speaker 2: he hit the market. You know they re signed JT

710
00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:32,640
Speaker 2: when he hit the market.

711
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:37,080
Speaker 1: I totally agree with both you, and I think conversations,

712
00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:39,920
Speaker 1: you know, probably lose casual whatever you want to call it,

713
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:44,160
Speaker 1: are going on and probably will. But I think you

714
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:46,000
Speaker 1: need to get it to the finish line see how

715
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:49,680
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty five season goes here before you make

716
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:53,080
Speaker 1: any decisions like that. I know how important both guys are.

717
00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:55,160
Speaker 1: I'm a fan of both guys. They're you know, important

718
00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:57,840
Speaker 1: behind the plate, and Schwarberz is important the lineup in

719
00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:00,760
Speaker 1: the clubhouse. But you got to see how this season

720
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 1: plays out, because the stakes are so high and it's

721
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:05,960
Speaker 1: like World Series or bust. And if they don't get

722
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:09,440
Speaker 1: there and and they and things seem stale. I mean,

723
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:12,160
Speaker 1: with these guys that are going to reach free agency,

724
00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:15,719
Speaker 1: that that's ripe territory to change the mix a little bit,

725
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:17,839
Speaker 1: and I think you have to keep keep all those

726
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:20,880
Speaker 1: options open a little bit not saying it.

727
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:24,800
Speaker 10: What about who's who's to say that they don't you know,

728
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:27,120
Speaker 10: if the things don't go well, they might be if

729
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:30,000
Speaker 10: it breaks down, they might be going with guys like

730
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:34,279
Speaker 10: Crawford and center Ringconas and right right.

731
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:37,239
Speaker 4: That means there's all types of stuff that can happen.

732
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:40,040
Speaker 4: Make that mix. You may not, you may not. You

733
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:41,719
Speaker 4: might non tender a guy or two.

734
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:47,200
Speaker 3: Uh, and you might go with just a younger, young,

735
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:51,360
Speaker 3: younger group and just roll with them correct never know.

736
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:58,560
Speaker 1: Well, Reuben, you've segued into my next prop. Will Justin

737
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:04,320
Speaker 1: Crawford play in the before rosters? Expand, Oh, that's a

738
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:04,879
Speaker 1: good question.

739
00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:07,799
Speaker 4: That's a great one, man, And you've stepped it up.

740
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:10,719
Speaker 4: You've stepped it up, great one.

741
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:14,400
Speaker 2: I say he is going to okay.

742
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:18,200
Speaker 3: I think something's going to happen during the course of

743
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:20,080
Speaker 3: the season that's going to created, whether.

744
00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:24,799
Speaker 4: It's an injury even to an off outfielder.

745
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:27,560
Speaker 3: If something one of those guys goes down, then I

746
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:29,960
Speaker 3: think if he's playing well, and I think he will

747
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 3: be and and and they'll feel comfortable with it, they'll.

748
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:35,680
Speaker 4: Slide one of those Sty'll slide marsh.

749
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:38,440
Speaker 3: To right or left if he's not the guy who

750
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:43,560
Speaker 3: gets you know, who has the oopsie. And this kid's

751
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:46,520
Speaker 3: gonna be in there in at center field because guess what, Dave,

752
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 3: Dave Tombrowski is not afraid to make those moves, baby,

753
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:53,080
Speaker 3: especially if the kids playing well and.

754
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 1: He's in triple A. Starter him in triple A. That's

755
00:36:56,040 --> 00:37:00,680
Speaker 1: a statement type of assignment. And I agree with you, Ruben,

756
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:04,000
Speaker 1: he will. He will dip his toe into the water

757
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 1: before rosters expand Todd, what do you go?

758
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, it makes a lot of sense if he's performing

759
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:13,960
Speaker 2: well down there and they think that he can despite

760
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:17,440
Speaker 2: his age and I guess relative lack of experience above

761
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:21,480
Speaker 2: high A h if there's an injury, yeah, I can

762
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:23,760
Speaker 2: absolutely see that as the guy to bring up, especially

763
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:26,000
Speaker 2: if he's hitting well. I mean, they're really confident and

764
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:28,680
Speaker 2: quite frankly, in just talking to people the other day

765
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 2: about it, they're kind of surprised that everybody made such

766
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:32,960
Speaker 2: a big deal out of it, in the sense that

767
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:37,920
Speaker 2: they look at him as like he can handle this,

768
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:40,200
Speaker 2: Like we believe that he can handle it's not like

769
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:43,920
Speaker 2: you know, yeah, just like over pushing him and this

770
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:45,839
Speaker 2: is kind of aggressive, like we don't know if he can.

771
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:48,359
Speaker 1: He's I think it's a big deal. He's twenty one.

772
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:48,920
Speaker 1: That's young.

773
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:50,800
Speaker 2: It's it's again, I'm just saying it's.

774
00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 1: Under the league average, I think considerably, and too, he's

775
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:56,640
Speaker 1: only played forty games above Class A. I think it's

776
00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:59,200
Speaker 1: it was a remarkable assignment, and it's a testament to

777
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:02,720
Speaker 1: him and his talent right right, and his overall demeanor.

778
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:04,520
Speaker 1: As Todd said, I think's maturity.

779
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:07,960
Speaker 3: Everything's maturity and stuff like that, and his ability to adjust,

780
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:10,040
Speaker 3: which has been something that he's done quite well.

781
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:12,879
Speaker 1: And it also speaks of the uncertainty at the big

782
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:15,279
Speaker 1: league level. They want to gauge what's going on and

783
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:18,040
Speaker 1: if they got a short you know, an option here

784
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:19,400
Speaker 1: in the short term future.

785
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:22,360
Speaker 4: Well, they haven't gotten what they've wanted out of the

786
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:23,360
Speaker 4: center field position.

787
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 3: Offensively, they just haven't gotten it. And uh and if

788
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:29,200
Speaker 3: and if it's and if they don't have those two

789
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:37,080
Speaker 3: guys developing uh and improving pretty dramatically in center field,

790
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:39,600
Speaker 3: then you might see some adjustments.

791
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 1: All right, we got to move on here, We got

792
00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:45,040
Speaker 1: to move on. I'm sorry, I know you're enjoying this,

793
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:49,400
Speaker 1: but we have to move on. How many appearances for

794
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:51,280
Speaker 1: Taiwan Walker.

795
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 2: How many appearances? So, I, you know, not starts to appearances.

796
00:38:57,200 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 1: So basically yeah, okay, yeah appearances. Right, So basically this

797
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 1: is a kind of a question on how long is

798
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:04,439
Speaker 1: he gonna be on the roster?

799
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:05,319
Speaker 2: Right?

800
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:08,680
Speaker 4: I got thirty appearances out of him, so you're looking

801
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:10,239
Speaker 4: at him on the eight.

802
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:10,800
Speaker 3: Is a starter?

803
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:11,239
Speaker 6: Five?

804
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 4: Eight is a starter?

805
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:13,839
Speaker 3: Is gonna have to be slid in there a couple

806
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 3: of times and then beyond that he's in the bullpen

807
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:19,040
Speaker 3: maybe twenty times.

808
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:23,479
Speaker 4: That's twenty sometimes just a guess.

809
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:28,480
Speaker 2: That's a great question, man. I I'm gonna say he

810
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:34,719
Speaker 2: makes yeah, four or five starts. Yeah, I'm gonna say

811
00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:38,160
Speaker 2: twenty five appearances. Twenty five appearances for Tye Okay.

812
00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:40,520
Speaker 1: I was gonna say eighteen. I'm not sure he gets

813
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:47,240
Speaker 1: through the whole season, but yeah, we'll see, okay next

814
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:51,239
Speaker 1: over under last year they had forty seven selloffs. Will

815
00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:53,279
Speaker 1: they go over that or under that this year?

816
00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:57,920
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say they go under that number only because

817
00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:01,360
Speaker 2: just just gauging the vibe of the fan base and

818
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:05,440
Speaker 2: I feel like, yeah, I just say yeah, I just

819
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 2: feel like it's gonna be a little bit utter, not

820
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:09,399
Speaker 2: by much, not by much, you know. I think there's

821
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:11,560
Speaker 2: a there's a there's there's kind of like the vote

822
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:14,160
Speaker 2: the vocal fan base, and I think there's the average

823
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:16,960
Speaker 2: fan that just just loves the Phillies and loves going

824
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:19,640
Speaker 2: to the game. So it might be like forty five

825
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:23,120
Speaker 2: forty two. Maybe I don't I you know, I don't know,

826
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:25,400
Speaker 2: But I still think they're gonna have a lot of

827
00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:29,040
Speaker 2: big crowds there. Generally speaking, I think the general fan

828
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:33,080
Speaker 2: is is fairly fairly you know, they just love coming.

829
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:34,759
Speaker 1: To the ball. I think they're gonna I'm gonna pick

830
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:36,840
Speaker 1: I'm gonna pick them to be just over because I

831
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:40,799
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, including the playoffs last year, they

832
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:43,759
Speaker 1: are fifty one and fifty one in their last one

833
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 1: hundred and two games, only five hundred. But I think

834
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:48,439
Speaker 1: they're gonna have a good season, and I think they're

835
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:50,480
Speaker 1: gonna be in a real slug fest down the stretch

836
00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:52,560
Speaker 1: to try to win this thing. And I think there's

837
00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:55,600
Speaker 1: gonna be a lot of enthusiasms surrounding it. So I'm

838
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:57,960
Speaker 1: gonna go just over the forty seven, maybe forty eight,

839
00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:00,920
Speaker 1: forty nine. Uh, I still think it's gonna be an

840
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:04,000
Speaker 1: exciting year. So I'm gonna go a little bit over that, Rubin.

841
00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:08,040
Speaker 3: I got a little insider trading information, and that's why

842
00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:11,359
Speaker 3: I'm going to go. The number is going to start

843
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:12,800
Speaker 3: with a five, but it's going to be in a

844
00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:17,200
Speaker 3: low five, so a lot of fifty some thinking, I

845
00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:20,640
Speaker 3: think in somewhere around fifty two.

846
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:24,200
Speaker 1: Okay, what's your insider information now that you've you know,

847
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:25,040
Speaker 1: bragged about that.

848
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:30,839
Speaker 11: Uh, there's ticket sales are going well, ticket sales well,

849
00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:35,360
Speaker 11: there you go, so fasm that you're hearing from some

850
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 11: might be a loud minority that.

851
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:41,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, which which just makes no sense for me.

852
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:48,440
Speaker 3: Lest we forget, they won the division last year handily

853
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:52,240
Speaker 3: in my mind, ninety five frickin' wins.

854
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:54,240
Speaker 4: Ninety five wins.

855
00:41:55,920 --> 00:42:00,239
Speaker 1: Thank you, m You're welcome, team, You're welcome. I'm going

856
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:05,880
Speaker 1: to go. Two more questions here, two more questions. The

857
00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 1: penultimate question on the quiz. What is the date of

858
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:17,560
Speaker 1: Andrew Painter's first Big league start?

859
00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:19,800
Speaker 2: What's the dates?

860
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:21,839
Speaker 1: Go ahead, Todd, what do you got?

861
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:22,440
Speaker 4: All right?

862
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:24,120
Speaker 2: Let me let me let me figure this out here.

863
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:24,480
Speaker 1: I got it.

864
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:26,719
Speaker 2: I'm literally looking at the schedule right now.

865
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:28,080
Speaker 4: I'm going to go.

866
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:31,799
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say, Dave Debroski, Jave Debraski has said July ish.

867
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:40,200
Speaker 2: I am going to say, July eleventh at Petco Park

868
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:41,120
Speaker 2: in San Diego.

869
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:47,120
Speaker 1: That's a good one, Jim. I'm going same road trip, Todd,

870
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:51,319
Speaker 1: you and I are thinking of like the road trip.

871
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:54,319
Speaker 1: I'm getting him out of Philly. I'm getting him away

872
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:58,160
Speaker 1: from the hype. Let him get his feet wet, twenty

873
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 1: five hundred miles away in a good pictures ballpark, San Francisco,

874
00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:06,200
Speaker 1: July seven.

875
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:11,720
Speaker 4: I love it. What do you got, Robin god bless?

876
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:16,600
Speaker 4: I had him in San Francisco. Jim, we got to start.

877
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 4: You know, we're right here.

878
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 1: You guys are on point tonight.

879
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 4: Because I think he's gonna get what's the first game

880
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:26,640
Speaker 4: in San fran July seven.

881
00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:34,279
Speaker 2: You guys picked the same Okay, Hey.

882
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:37,120
Speaker 1: He's gonna get one start before the All Star h No,

883
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:41,040
Speaker 1: and that's probably one start before let me say, let

884
00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:44,520
Speaker 1: me say this, Are they still in San Francis July ninth, Yeah,

885
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:46,080
Speaker 1: they'd still be there. I think that would be the

886
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:46,600
Speaker 1: day game.

887
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:49,400
Speaker 4: Perfect day game, young kid. He's pitching in the day

888
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:50,560
Speaker 4: game booth, July ninth.

889
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:52,960
Speaker 1: Day game. Todd and I would write our stories and

890
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:57,160
Speaker 1: we'd go up to Trattoria Contadina on the corner of

891
00:43:57,360 --> 00:44:00,759
Speaker 1: Union in Mason and have some nice Italian food after

892
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:01,600
Speaker 1: that game, Right.

893
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:05,040
Speaker 3: I'm going to go to the speak easy right behind

894
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:09,239
Speaker 3: right field line where they have in the ballpark that

895
00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:13,279
Speaker 3: I did not know about until last year, spectacular right

896
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:15,480
Speaker 3: behind the out of town score.

897
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:20,840
Speaker 4: I'm brain locking on what it's called. But it's awesome.

898
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:21,880
Speaker 4: It's my favorite ballpark.

899
00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:25,640
Speaker 1: Oh, it's a great city, great, great, great ballpark, great everything.

900
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:27,480
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, I love San Francisco.

901
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 3: All right, So now we marvel at his seven innings,

902
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:37,879
Speaker 3: two runs, four hits, two walks, and seven strikeouts.

903
00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:41,239
Speaker 1: So while Reuben gave us a little extra we were

904
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:43,520
Speaker 1: just looking for the the debut.

905
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:45,719
Speaker 4: Day, he actually gave us I'm a difference maker.

906
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:48,560
Speaker 1: He actually gave us the line, the line for painter,

907
00:44:49,520 --> 00:45:00,439
Speaker 1: the line for Painter. Alrighty, and I know you can't

908
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:01,879
Speaker 1: wait for this because you can't wait to get out

909
00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:02,080
Speaker 1: of here.

910
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:04,319
Speaker 2: No, this is good, man, it's great.

911
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:06,200
Speaker 1: Make it.

912
00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:08,120
Speaker 4: Let's get it to a one hour show. Let's go.

913
00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:13,320
Speaker 1: The last one is how many victories in the regular

914
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:16,839
Speaker 1: season for the Old Fighting Phills. Now, the last three

915
00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:19,600
Speaker 1: years they were eighty seven, ninety and ninety five. How

916
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:23,200
Speaker 1: many victories in twenty twenty five for the old fighting pills?

917
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:23,959
Speaker 1: What do you got, Todd?

918
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 2: I'm going to say ninety four, and I'm going to

919
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:30,160
Speaker 2: say it's good enough to win the division. I think

920
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:33,400
Speaker 2: the Braves are vastly improved. I think the Mets are

921
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:36,800
Speaker 2: I'm not really digging the Mets pitching staff starting rotation,

922
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:39,600
Speaker 2: but I think they'll cause the Phillies some problems. I

923
00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:41,560
Speaker 2: think ninety four will get it done. It's going to

924
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:43,600
Speaker 2: be a dog fight until the end with the Braves,

925
00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:45,400
Speaker 2: but Phillies win the division.

926
00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:48,880
Speaker 1: Ruben, what do you got for victories?

927
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:51,120
Speaker 4: Ninety three dog fights? Same way?

928
00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 3: Ninety three was one of a great year, one of

929
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:57,000
Speaker 3: the great years, and one of those years that no

930
00:45:57,080 --> 00:45:57,760
Speaker 3: one expected.

931
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Speaker 1: Ninety three wins good picks. I'm going ninety two wins,

932
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:05,400
Speaker 1: ninety two wins, and I'm thinking that's good enough to

933
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:06,040
Speaker 1: win the division.

934
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:09,200
Speaker 4: Wow, But I think it's going to be a dog

935
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:09,799
Speaker 4: fight then.

936
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:14,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, why not let's have some fun. Ninety two wins,

937
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:18,480
Speaker 1: so we covered all the bases. I think we got

938
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:19,319
Speaker 1: it all figured out.

939
00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:24,000
Speaker 4: When did they clinch? That's another one. What day do

940
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:24,720
Speaker 4: they clinch?

941
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:25,920
Speaker 2: Oh, that's a good question.

942
00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:30,200
Speaker 1: It's going to go probably in the final three days.

943
00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:31,480
Speaker 1: Three days left.

944
00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:35,560
Speaker 2: I needed a date, I gotta I'm looking at the

945
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:36,600
Speaker 2: schedule right now here.

946
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:38,279
Speaker 1: Three days left, Todd, what's that?

947
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:42,960
Speaker 2: Three days left of the season. It's like September twenty Yeah,

948
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:46,680
Speaker 2: it's the season in September twenty eighth against the Twins.

949
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:50,640
Speaker 2: They finished with a six game homestand Marlins beginning September

950
00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:53,040
Speaker 2: twenty third, and then they finish against the Twins beginning

951
00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:57,120
Speaker 2: September twenty six. How about this, I'm going to go

952
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:04,279
Speaker 2: September twenty seven, Saturday, the final Saturday of the regular season,

953
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:05,920
Speaker 2: the Phillies clinched the division.

954
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:10,719
Speaker 4: Max Keplermber, I'm September twenty fifth, Marlins.

955
00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:13,200
Speaker 2: September twenty fifth against the Marlins.

956
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:15,239
Speaker 4: Yep, how many games are a half? There's a three

957
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:16,120
Speaker 4: game set or four?

958
00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:18,239
Speaker 2: It's a three game set, so that'd be the final

959
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:20,720
Speaker 2: game of that series Marlins.

960
00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:22,280
Speaker 4: Oh all right, over.

961
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:26,120
Speaker 1: Nailed it? How about that?

962
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:27,000
Speaker 4: All right?

963
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:27,920
Speaker 1: Well?

964
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:30,279
Speaker 2: I guess what, guys, real quick, let's go back. You

965
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:32,960
Speaker 2: don't forget to subscribe to the YouTube channel for a

966
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:36,240
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967
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968
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:42,080
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971
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Speaker 2: Show Powder Blue T shirt or maroon. You still got

972
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Speaker 2: a few maroons left in stock.

973
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Speaker 1: Todd, send me one of those. I want one of those. Oh,

974
00:47:57,800 --> 00:47:59,640
Speaker 1: I'll get you guys. Get you guys.

975
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:01,239
Speaker 4: Are we allowed to have those?

976
00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:02,600
Speaker 1: Yeah?

977
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:06,400
Speaker 4: Okay, do I have to pay for mine? I got'all.

978
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:07,839
Speaker 1: Hook you up? You paid for them all?

979
00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:15,080
Speaker 2: Last, but not least, guys. You know, this is the

980
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:18,080
Speaker 2: unofficial one year anniversary of The Philly Show. The first

981
00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:21,080
Speaker 2: show actually was March twenty eighth last year. I think

982
00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:25,719
Speaker 2: we posted it on opening day, So congratulations us for

983
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:28,480
Speaker 2: making it a year and hopefully much more to come.

984
00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:32,399
Speaker 2: But to celebrate, we put together a few highlights from

985
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:36,560
Speaker 2: some of our favorite interviews over the past year. Bryce Harper,

986
00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:42,160
Speaker 2: Kyle Schwarber, Aaron Nola, jt Real Mutou, Zach Wheeler, and

987
00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:45,719
Speaker 2: so stay tuned after this. Consider this like a little

988
00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:49,440
Speaker 2: director's cut of an episode. So nice you want to

989
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:51,320
Speaker 2: hear some of the highlights from some of these interviews

990
00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:54,960
Speaker 2: over the past year. Hang with us and guess what.

991
00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:57,960
Speaker 2: Either way, we're going to be back on Friday for

992
00:48:58,120 --> 00:49:01,799
Speaker 2: some reaction over rec action Opening Day.

993
00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:09,040
Speaker 1: Awesome. Well, guys, happy anniversary, Happy Opening Day, and I

994
00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:13,560
Speaker 1: will stay tuned for that special episode and I'll smell

995
00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:13,960
Speaker 1: it later.

996
00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:15,680
Speaker 4: That's my ade.

997
00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:18,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, Hi, everybody, It's Todd's a Lucky co host of

998
00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:21,640
Speaker 2: The Philly Show with Ruben Tomorrow Junior and Jim Salisbury,

999
00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:25,279
Speaker 2: part of the Foul Territory Network. The Phillies twenty twenty

1000
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:28,120
Speaker 2: five season is fast approaching, so we thought we would

1001
00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:29,839
Speaker 2: have some fun and look back at some of our

1002
00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:32,640
Speaker 2: favorite moments from some of our interviews over the past

1003
00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:37,440
Speaker 2: year with players like Bryce Harper, Zach Wheeler, JT reb Muto,

1004
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:42,240
Speaker 2: Aaron Nola, Kyle Schwarber. Hope you enjoy, Hit the like button,

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Speaker 2: hit the subscribe button, and we will see you on

1006
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Speaker 2: the next episode of The Philly Show.

1007
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Speaker 9: I'm so lucky that I had a dad that I

1008
00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:52,960
Speaker 9: did and still am today because I can still call

1009
00:49:53,080 --> 00:49:54,440
Speaker 9: him and be like, Pop, what do you got for me?

1010
00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:56,120
Speaker 9: Some of the drills he did too, He'd pull some

1011
00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:59,440
Speaker 9: stuff man, and like I'd have a broomstick with with

1012
00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:03,920
Speaker 9: red beans, like I'd do that stuff a lot, and

1013
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:07,080
Speaker 9: he'd pull that stuff from like the Dominican like, you know,

1014
00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:09,600
Speaker 9: I'd say a lot of that from I talked.

1015
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:10,839
Speaker 1: To our hitting guy bottle caps.

1016
00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:12,719
Speaker 9: You know, we did bottle caps all the time. We

1017
00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:15,200
Speaker 9: would have so I'd have the broomstick and he'd do

1018
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:18,440
Speaker 9: bottle caps. But our bottle caps. And this was different

1019
00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:21,160
Speaker 9: from the Dominican way is you know Dominican way, they

1020
00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:21,840
Speaker 9: kind of do it.

1021
00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:22,920
Speaker 4: Out front, like flick them.

1022
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:26,279
Speaker 9: So he would flick them this way, hit into a net,

1023
00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:29,520
Speaker 9: but he would put a fan like right next to it,

1024
00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:31,600
Speaker 9: and so he would flick it right in front of

1025
00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:34,759
Speaker 9: the fan and it would yeah, and you'd have to

1026
00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:39,840
Speaker 9: hand coordination make sure empty like empty T was like

1027
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:43,040
Speaker 9: so cool. So he would put it right in front

1028
00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:45,239
Speaker 9: and it would move and he'd be like wham. And

1029
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:47,400
Speaker 9: so empty T was like really big to him, and

1030
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:49,759
Speaker 9: he pulled that from like Jeter, Like Jeter was big,

1031
00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:52,160
Speaker 9: like empty T. And Jeter would never look down the

1032
00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:54,480
Speaker 9: cage and so like he would be like, hey, empty T,

1033
00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:57,080
Speaker 9: empty T. And so it was like the little things

1034
00:50:57,120 --> 00:50:58,360
Speaker 9: like that like I would get out of whack a

1035
00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:00,600
Speaker 9: little bit and go, well, you're not seeing the right

1036
00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:02,480
Speaker 9: like your head's out in the right field, your head

1037
00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:04,640
Speaker 9: out and left field, like see the ball, get it deeper,

1038
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:06,840
Speaker 9: hit it out of the cuff left center, boom, and

1039
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:08,759
Speaker 9: like I'd block it right back in. You know. So

1040
00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:11,800
Speaker 9: those are things when I was younger, Like it just

1041
00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:14,040
Speaker 9: was fun because he would make it funner, like ATEX,

1042
00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:15,920
Speaker 9: Like he would he would throw at X to me.

1043
00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:17,839
Speaker 4: A lot, you know, the yeah.

1044
00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:20,120
Speaker 9: And so that was like when I was younger, younger,

1045
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:22,840
Speaker 9: and they would rise, and so I'd really have to

1046
00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:24,480
Speaker 9: get on top of the ball or like I would

1047
00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:26,080
Speaker 9: be missing it a couple of times, you know, in

1048
00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:29,680
Speaker 9: two games, I'd miss it, or I'd be like fallon

1049
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:32,920
Speaker 9: balls off. When I was younger, and he would he

1050
00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:34,920
Speaker 9: would throw me tennis balls. And so when you try

1051
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:36,920
Speaker 9: to hit a tennis ball with a metal bat, it

1052
00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:39,120
Speaker 9: would flip off. Even if you would square it up,

1053
00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:40,840
Speaker 9: like it would kind of flip off, but when you

1054
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:43,239
Speaker 9: really squared it up and see it, it would, you know,

1055
00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:47,480
Speaker 9: driver exactly. And so I'd get so mad sometimes, but

1056
00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:50,120
Speaker 9: it was so funny, like and he would like I'd

1057
00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:52,720
Speaker 9: be like eleven years old, and I'd be falance stuff,

1058
00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:55,640
Speaker 9: off balance stuff. I'd throw my bath, I'm pissed, and

1059
00:51:56,160 --> 00:51:58,719
Speaker 9: and he'd just he'd start laughing, you know, he started

1060
00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:00,759
Speaker 9: laughing and goes, Okay, it's okay, you're fine, you're gonna

1061
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:02,719
Speaker 9: get it. You're gonna get it. And sure as crap, man,

1062
00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:05,200
Speaker 9: i'd you know, six of them had hit, feel good.

1063
00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:07,959
Speaker 9: And then we switched to regular baseballs and I'd mash,

1064
00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:10,120
Speaker 9: you know, like that was big, you know, and he'd

1065
00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:12,600
Speaker 9: always he put a wood bat in my hand immediately.

1066
00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:15,120
Speaker 9: I was like eleven years old, ten years old, wood bat,

1067
00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:18,080
Speaker 9: heavy wood bat immediately into my hands. And then I'd

1068
00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:20,160
Speaker 9: switched to aluminum, and that would like that'd be like

1069
00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:22,560
Speaker 9: my price, right, He'd be, Okay, you can hit with

1070
00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:25,560
Speaker 9: the luminum, that's great, but can you go backside three

1071
00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:27,640
Speaker 9: hundred and fifty feet with a wood bat, you know,

1072
00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:30,319
Speaker 9: like let's do that, because that's cool, you know, going

1073
00:52:30,520 --> 00:52:33,360
Speaker 9: going light tower power to right field, like that's that's fine,

1074
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:36,040
Speaker 9: but left center would bat.

1075
00:52:36,160 --> 00:52:36,640
Speaker 4: That's cool.

1076
00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:43,760
Speaker 12: All the success was great, but also too is making

1077
00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:48,640
Speaker 12: sure those failures, when those failures do happen, that you

1078
00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:50,960
Speaker 12: know we're not carrying those into the end of the

1079
00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:51,560
Speaker 12: next day.

1080
00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:53,480
Speaker 4: You know, I think that's the biggest.

1081
00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:55,440
Speaker 12: Thing, right, Like, when I look back, it's like, man,

1082
00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:59,520
Speaker 12: I probably carried so many different freaking things on my

1083
00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:02,440
Speaker 12: back that I couldn't even have success for the next

1084
00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:05,000
Speaker 12: for the next week. You know what I mean that,

1085
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:08,920
Speaker 12: like the great Ken rivesa he's a he's a great

1086
00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:12,640
Speaker 12: uh mental skills he's passed away now and uh. I

1087
00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:17,120
Speaker 12: remember we're We're in LA and playing the Dodgers, and

1088
00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:20,000
Speaker 12: it was seventeen. I was struggling and he comes to

1089
00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:21,919
Speaker 12: my hotel room. He goes, Hey, what are you doing?

1090
00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:24,839
Speaker 12: And like sitting in my hotel, he goes, I'm coming

1091
00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:28,399
Speaker 12: up to your room. I go, okay, Ken, and think

1092
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:31,080
Speaker 12: comes in my room. We're sitting there and we're talking.

1093
00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:35,319
Speaker 12: You know, he goes, you know, if anyone knew Ken,

1094
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Speaker 12: Ken's got this great voice and does a great personality.

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Speaker 4: And he goes, well, Kyle, I want you to go

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Speaker 4: ahead and get act like you're getting in the box.

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Speaker 4: So I get in the box.

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Speaker 8: He goes, take a swing.

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Speaker 1: I take a swing.

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Speaker 4: He goes, great, Now turn around.

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Speaker 1: I turn around.

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Speaker 4: He jumps on my back and he goes, now, take

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00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:58,319
Speaker 4: a swing, he goes. You feel how weighted town you are?

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00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:03,360
Speaker 4: I feel that, and you know it's funny.

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00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:04,080
Speaker 1: You laugh about it.

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00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:06,080
Speaker 4: Then you think about it. You're like, man, you know what,

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00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:08,399
Speaker 4: Like it's true.

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Speaker 12: You know that it's hard to take a swing when

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00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:12,600
Speaker 12: I got this guy in my back?

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Speaker 4: What about you know the last ten outs I made?

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00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:17,719
Speaker 4: Or the bad call?

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Speaker 12: You know, I think I made the umpire made a

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00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:22,000
Speaker 12: bad call me that bat, and I'm still thinking about

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00:54:22,040 --> 00:54:24,840
Speaker 12: it in the abat right, Like those are those are

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00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:26,400
Speaker 12: all different external things that.

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Speaker 4: Your mind can go to.

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00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:31,560
Speaker 12: Besides, you know what, you got to be so hyper

1118
00:54:31,640 --> 00:54:35,640
Speaker 12: focused on what you're doing at the plate. Uh, when

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00:54:36,160 --> 00:54:40,200
Speaker 12: you know ninety eight's coming at you or an eighty

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00:54:40,280 --> 00:54:42,759
Speaker 12: five slider or whatever it is, it's coming at you now,

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00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:45,839
Speaker 12: and that you know you need all your focus going

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00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:50,440
Speaker 12: into that at bat. And uh, you know if you're

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Speaker 12: thinking about any other thing, that it's gonna make it

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Speaker 12: just ten times harder.

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Speaker 2: Hey, everybody, if you guys like what you are seeing

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Speaker 2: and hearing, this is your cue, go ahead and subscribe

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Speaker 2: to The Philly Show. Previous two off seasons. When you

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Speaker 2: when you come to camp with the sweeper and then

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Speaker 2: the next camp with the split, is that something that

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00:55:11,719 --> 00:55:14,800
Speaker 2: he goes, hey, I think this is something you should do,

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00:55:15,080 --> 00:55:17,000
Speaker 2: or is this something and go hey, I feel like

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00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:19,440
Speaker 2: I need something else? How did how did those conversations?

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Speaker 13: The slider was kind of uh, struggling a little bit,

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00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:28,279
Speaker 13: like it kind of always has over the years, just

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00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:31,040
Speaker 13: not necessarily shape wise like shape. It could get a

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00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:32,719
Speaker 13: little bit better, but just stone at first, a good

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00:55:33,160 --> 00:55:36,319
Speaker 13: you know strike, it's always low, it's always a ball,

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00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:38,520
Speaker 13: and so I never got chases off of it and

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00:55:38,560 --> 00:55:41,600
Speaker 13: stuff like that. And I tend to throw like thigh up,

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00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:44,680
Speaker 13: so when I throw something low, they really don't even

1141
00:55:44,719 --> 00:55:47,440
Speaker 13: go after it. So Caleb's kind of came to me, hey,

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00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:49,480
Speaker 13: this is the kind of the new thing going around,

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00:55:49,600 --> 00:55:52,440
Speaker 13: and he was with Bauer and Cincinnati and Bower kind

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00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:55,600
Speaker 13: of started the whole uh you know, sweeper face, so

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00:55:57,040 --> 00:55:58,440
Speaker 13: you know, he introduced it to me. I tried a

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00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:00,000
Speaker 13: few different grips and I found one that kind of

1147
00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:01,839
Speaker 13: mimic my curveball, just the hair.

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00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:03,839
Speaker 4: So I was comfortable with the grip. I just had

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00:56:03,840 --> 00:56:04,400
Speaker 4: to change my.

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00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:07,440
Speaker 2: Angle a little bit more.

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00:56:08,120 --> 00:56:09,920
Speaker 13: And you know, once you start playing around with that

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00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:11,960
Speaker 13: angle kind of messes with your fastball a little bit,

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00:56:12,040 --> 00:56:13,720
Speaker 13: so I kind of had to go back and forth

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00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:16,040
Speaker 13: in between starts and starts as this, some starts as that.

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00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:19,360
Speaker 4: And then the split. We talked about it during the

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00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:19,840
Speaker 4: off season.

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Speaker 2: I need I need something that goes to the show

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00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:25,560
Speaker 2: seep sweeper, and then like.

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Speaker 13: So the sweeper, I basically just hook that scene right there,

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00:56:32,200 --> 00:56:35,719
Speaker 13: and I try to make this the horseshoe right here

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00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:37,440
Speaker 13: or the train tracks wherever we will call it.

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Speaker 4: Kind of just keep going that way. That's my thought

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Speaker 4: on it.

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Speaker 13: Now, keep the keep it going. I don't know if

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00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:47,520
Speaker 13: that's technically right, but that's that's my mindset and that's

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Speaker 13: what helps me. So I just gotta make sure I

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00:56:50,239 --> 00:56:52,480
Speaker 13: don't start doing that and trying to make it go.

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00:56:52,719 --> 00:56:54,920
Speaker 13: I gotta keep my arm up. That's where my fastball

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00:56:55,040 --> 00:56:57,400
Speaker 13: is and this trust it and throw it. And then

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Speaker 13: the split. We tried a few different ones. And before

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00:57:01,840 --> 00:57:03,960
Speaker 13: I was kind of just like a normal split like that,

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Speaker 13: my fingers down the side. But then I started going

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Speaker 13: up with my other fingers for whatever reason, it's more comfortable,

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00:57:11,760 --> 00:57:14,800
Speaker 13: and I started hooking that seem a little bit interesting.

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Speaker 13: My thumb's just there. Just I basically don't even use

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Speaker 13: my thumb. But my thumb's just there for a little

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Speaker 13: bit of brace on that side, So just throw it.

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Speaker 13: Do it like a fastball.

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Speaker 2: What's the conversation with it? I came out in the

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00:57:30,560 --> 00:57:33,760
Speaker 2: mound with with Zach maybe compared to other guys or

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00:57:34,080 --> 00:57:36,600
Speaker 2: you know, Nolah.

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Speaker 8: Zach does not want anybody on the mountain ever. I

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00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:43,320
Speaker 8: do not have to go talk to him, you know,

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00:57:43,400 --> 00:57:45,280
Speaker 8: because he's like, like I said, he's a competitor.

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Speaker 14: So usually if you're going for a mountain visit, something

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00:57:47,320 --> 00:57:50,800
Speaker 14: hasn't gone right, so he is he is pissed when

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00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:51,480
Speaker 14: I go out there.

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00:57:51,640 --> 00:57:53,680
Speaker 8: Or Caleb. It's funny.

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Speaker 14: Caleb will go out there and he'll say, like, you know,

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00:57:55,600 --> 00:57:57,960
Speaker 14: puts hustle and goes, what do you got, Zach, And

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00:57:58,040 --> 00:58:00,600
Speaker 14: he'll just say, I don't know, and like scare right

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00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:02,240
Speaker 14: through his soul and then care just turns around and

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00:58:02,280 --> 00:58:06,840
Speaker 14: goes back. It's pretty every now and then we'll be

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00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:09,680
Speaker 14: able to give him something that's actually useful information. But

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Speaker 14: most of the time with Wheels, like if we're going

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00:58:12,280 --> 00:58:13,840
Speaker 14: out there, it's just to slow the game down a

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00:58:13,880 --> 00:58:14,960
Speaker 14: little bit and give him a breath.

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Speaker 1: It's not right.

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Speaker 8: He knows how to make adjustments. He knows what he's

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Speaker 8: doing out there, so it's not like we're ever trying

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Speaker 8: to give him too much information. Yeah, it's not like

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Speaker 8: that's for sure. So if you guys watch his antics

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00:58:27,840 --> 00:58:28,680
Speaker 8: from now on when we go.

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Speaker 14: Out there, it's pretty funny, like you'll know that he's

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00:58:31,200 --> 00:58:33,400
Speaker 14: he's not giving us anything all. Even ask him like, hey,

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00:58:33,960 --> 00:58:35,840
Speaker 14: what pitch you want to start this next guy off with?

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Speaker 14: And I almost never get an answer, so you know

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Speaker 14: who He'll just say like I don't care or whatever

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Speaker 14: you want. You know, It's just that's just Wheels. He's

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Speaker 14: not happy about Mountain visits.

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Speaker 2: How would you describe Aaron Nola to to fans they

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00:58:48,480 --> 00:58:50,520
Speaker 2: know and and you know, how would you describe Rangers

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Speaker 2: Sware as two of these you know, starters that have

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00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:55,240
Speaker 2: been you know, done very well for you? How would

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Speaker 2: have compared to how do they compare to Zach? How

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Speaker 2: would you describe their mentality? Their whatever?

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Speaker 14: Knowles is a little more cerebral about his like pre

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00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:08,200
Speaker 14: game approach. He loves to watch video and like he'll

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00:59:08,240 --> 00:59:10,840
Speaker 14: look at the numbers. I think our meeting with him

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Speaker 14: before the game takes quite a while. He's probably our

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00:59:13,760 --> 00:59:16,080
Speaker 14: longest meeting because he he he talks a lot like

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Speaker 14: he gives he'll because he's already watched quite a bit

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Speaker 14: of video.

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Speaker 8: And he knows how he wants to attack these guys

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Speaker 8: really before we go to a meeting.

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Speaker 14: Which is good that we're kind of all it's the

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Speaker 14: three of us having a conversation getting on the same page.

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Speaker 14: So his meetings are definitely the longest, and he talks

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Speaker 14: talks to the most out of any of the of

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Speaker 14: the starting pitchers for sure. He's not not just listening

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00:59:37,800 --> 00:59:39,720
Speaker 14: and same thing with with like going through a game.

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Speaker 14: He likes he doesn't shake much, but like we'll have

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00:59:43,120 --> 00:59:45,200
Speaker 14: conversations about how we want to attack the next guy,

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Speaker 14: like next time through and kind of get on the

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Speaker 14: same patient.

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Speaker 8: He likes to think about that a little more probably

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Speaker 8: than Zach does.

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Speaker 14: And Rangers. Rangers a little more similar to Zach. Like

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00:59:56,520 --> 00:59:59,840
Speaker 14: he doesn't say a lot, he doesn't think a lot. You,

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Speaker 14: he doesn't rarely shakes like he's just he's up there

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Speaker 14: trying to execute.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 8: He's kind of the same as act too. Is like

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Speaker 8: he's very relaxed in the meeting, like kind of like

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01:00:10,280 --> 01:00:10,840
Speaker 8: he was on the mound.

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Speaker 4: You got to see it.

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01:00:11,480 --> 01:00:13,160
Speaker 8: He's very calm at all times.

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01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:19,880
Speaker 2: Can you show like point of the like show how

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01:00:19,920 --> 01:00:22,320
Speaker 2: you grip the curveball and kind of explain like how

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01:00:22,400 --> 01:00:23,920
Speaker 2: you start, how you throw it? When did you learn

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01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:25,920
Speaker 2: to throw it? And so yeah, yeah, so my.

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Speaker 15: Dad taught me a football curve and so like he

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01:00:29,520 --> 01:00:31,320
Speaker 15: told me just to throw it with my finger up

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Speaker 15: and throw it like.

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Speaker 2: A football, your middle finger on the fingers on the scene, way.

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Speaker 15: Back, way back in my hand right and when I

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Speaker 15: throw it like a football, and my wrist is stiff

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Speaker 15: and it just rolls off and unfore teams spin. And

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Speaker 15: then when I got older, I just put my finger

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Speaker 15: on it just like that and did the same thing.

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Speaker 15: And then when I got to the minor leagues, the

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01:00:52,800 --> 01:00:54,440
Speaker 15: balls were a little bit different, so they didn't have

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01:00:54,520 --> 01:00:56,960
Speaker 15: as much seams. They were kind of low, and I

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01:00:57,080 --> 01:01:00,880
Speaker 15: was struggling throwing my curveball like this, and so I

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01:01:01,440 --> 01:01:04,960
Speaker 15: try to spike curveball, okay, and it was sharper, and

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Speaker 15: it took me a week or so to get used

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Speaker 15: to it, and I had better command with the spike kurbble.

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Speaker 15: So it's just the same, the same same thing, throwing

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Speaker 15: it like a football pressure a lot of my thumb.

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Speaker 15: So that's how I get from a lower arm slot

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Speaker 15: to get it more depthy okay.

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Speaker 2: So basically the index finger just goes from being flat

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Speaker 2: to like spike.

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Speaker 15: When index fingers on there, it goes off that finger,

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01:01:31,800 --> 01:01:35,200
Speaker 15: but when it's up, it goes off middle finger.

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01:01:35,280 --> 01:01:35,520
Speaker 1: Okay.

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Speaker 2: And it came to you that quickly. Yeah, it took

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Speaker 2: about a week. Isn't that crazy how that stuff works?

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01:01:41,000 --> 01:01:42,360
Speaker 2: Through one curveball in double A.

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Speaker 15: I can't remember where we're at, but Erie, Pennsylvania three one,

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Speaker 15: and the guy buckled, Yeah, okay, I'm gonna start and

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Speaker 15: I started doing that and it got sharper and the

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01:01:56,120 --> 01:02:00,320
Speaker 15: command was better hit that one finger, uh edit in

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Speaker 15: two fingers.

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