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Speaker 1: Wind Down with Jana Kramer and I'm Heart Radio Podcast.

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Speaker 2: Okay, we have some very exciting news that we want

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Speaker 2: to share with you guys.

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Speaker 1: Should we tell them?

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Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, you can tell the honost go on.

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Speaker 2: We're having a brand new Thursday.

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Speaker 3: Why are you calling it Thursday?

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Speaker 2: Because it's going to come on on Thursday. It's like

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Speaker 2: our It's like it's a new baby in a sense.

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Speaker 4: I don't know what You're still desperate to keep the

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Speaker 4: names Thursday attached that well.

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Speaker 2: I know since it was Therapy Thursday. So the touch

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Speaker 2: breaking news. Our Thursday episode is going to be called

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Speaker 2: Adult Education with Jamma and Alan. Yeah, it's under the

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Speaker 2: wind Down. It still wind Down, but it's set of

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Speaker 2: Therapy Thursday. It's called Adult Education with Jana and no on.

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Speaker 3: Same type of guests, ones that are interested in inspirational people.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna chat a little bit, yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and the sofa. It's good to chat. It's the

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Speaker 3: only time we get to chat. As then we get

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Speaker 3: to set in the sofa.

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Speaker 2: It would be good. We're gonna have, you know, same

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Speaker 2: kind of drill as the other show. We'll have host

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Speaker 2: chat and then we'll have our guests come on. So

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Speaker 2: we're gonna let you guys in a little bit, not

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Speaker 2: too much. We're not gonna open the door. Fully, we've

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Speaker 2: learned that lesson before.

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Speaker 3: Do you help?

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Speaker 2: I am, but it's just gonna be. Yeah, we're gonna

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Speaker 2: have We're gonna have all types of guests on. We've

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Speaker 2: got a really good one today. We've got Ella Helikas on.

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Speaker 2: She's an American model, TikToker and body positivity activists. Just

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Speaker 2: got a lot of confidence, is what she said. I

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Speaker 2: see you confidence, see you have confidence. I have a

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Speaker 2: question on a scale of one to ten, how confident

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Speaker 2: do you think you are? And how how confident do

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Speaker 2: you think you are or are you? And then how

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Speaker 2: confident do you think other people perceive you? On a

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Speaker 2: scale of one to ten, So your perception of your

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Speaker 2: as confidence.

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Speaker 4: What's a tough question, because you're confident in different areas

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Speaker 4: of your life and different things as a whole, as

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Speaker 4: a whole, so generalized school.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, obviously you're more confident in your work. Yeah so,

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Speaker 2: but I mean as a whole, as like a everything

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Speaker 3: Probably probably seven.

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Speaker 2: Okay, that's good. And then how do you think people

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Speaker 2: perceive you're confident?

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Speaker 4: I don't know, don't really think about it. Okay, they

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Speaker 4: probably perceive it. I used to always get this when

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Speaker 4: I was younger, because I was quiet. When you're quiet

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Speaker 4: and you have some sort of presence, people assume you're

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Speaker 4: arrogant when it's not the case at all. I'm fairly confident.

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Speaker 4: I'm not on the arrogant on any level. Would you

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Speaker 4: agree with that?

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Speaker 1: I hate just.

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Speaker 2: No, I mean you're confident? No, no, no, like you're

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Speaker 2: you're definitely confident. And some I will say this sometimes

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Speaker 2: I think it's hard to because sometimes it comes off

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Speaker 2: as that what you said, I don't want to say it,

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Speaker 2: but because I don't think you that you are, but

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Speaker 2: it's it's also the accent and the you know, you're

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Speaker 2: off that way. But knowing you now, that's not obviously,

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Speaker 2: but I could see how maybe that's perceived, just how

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Speaker 3: What's your scale? Then your confidence within yourself?

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Speaker 2: I have to say a five life okay, and then

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Speaker 2: I think people perceive me more confident. I think I

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Speaker 2: I've never really asked anyone, what do you think?

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Speaker 4: Well, I can't comment on how you read your confidence

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Speaker 4: because that's how you feel within yourself. But I think, yeah,

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Speaker 4: I think people would that you're a lot more confident

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Speaker 1: You you think I am?

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Speaker 3: That's sweet?

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Speaker 2: All right, Well let's get the CEO of confidence on

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Speaker 2: because clearly we're not to the top, we're not our

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Speaker 2: Ella on and let's see how she can help us.

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Speaker 5: Hello.

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Speaker 1: Hi, how are you.

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Speaker 5: Hi?

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Speaker 1: I'm good, I'm Jana. This is Alan.

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Speaker 3: Nice to meet you.

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Speaker 5: Hi, Nice to meet you, guys. Thanks for having.

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Speaker 1: Me, thank you for coming on.

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Speaker 2: And we were just talking about your CEO of confidence

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Speaker 2: because and we were ranking ourselves. I said, I'm a

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Speaker 2: And then he's he's a seven out of ten. And

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Speaker 2: I'm like, well, we're doing it all wrong because she

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Speaker 2: says that you say that you're like the top, right,

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Speaker 2: what did you say?

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Speaker 1: What was the word?

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Speaker 3: Thank you? I read something that you said you have

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Speaker 3: delusional confidence.

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Speaker 6: Yes, delusional confidence, And I feel like all the girlies

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Speaker 6: on TikTok are talking about like Delulu being Delulu and

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Speaker 6: I'm like, no, it actually works.

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Speaker 1: No, wait, what is that? Because I'm so old and

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Speaker 1: I don't know what any of those words mean.

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Speaker 6: Okay, so Delulu is like delusional, so everyone's like be Delulu.

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Speaker 6: Like everyone's being Delulu, and I'm like, no, I swear

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Speaker 6: by being delusional because if you're delusional, like in your

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Speaker 6: it if you already you know, you just have to

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Speaker 1: I say, I like that.

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Speaker 2: I think that's great because it's almost like you're, like

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Speaker 2: I always say, like a fake it to make it

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Speaker 2: kind of thing. I'm like, well, I might as well

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Speaker 2: I don't know. But if you believe it hard enough,

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Speaker 5: No, one hundred percent. And it took years.

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Speaker 6: Like I came from like a very like insecure, grew

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Speaker 5: But then I feel like when I found that, I

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Speaker 6: So tired of being tired and like tired of being

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Speaker 5: Of what you said.

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Speaker 6: Like in the beginning, I was like faking it till

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Speaker 6: I make it in a way of like every day

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Speaker 6: just giving me affirmations like I got this, like you

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Speaker 5: Wait I'm actually happy how I look. I'm actually happy

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Speaker 6: And like you start like that self talk starts getting

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Speaker 6: from negative to positive, you know, like the more you

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Speaker 1: That's what I need to do.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I'm the I'm I think we're all we're

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Speaker 2: all our own worst critics. But I talk so down

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Speaker 2: to myself all the time, Like it's especially with the chatter.

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Speaker 2: And I've really like I've I've gotten off social media

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Speaker 2: see a few people's pages. But besides that, it's you know,

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Speaker 2: it's I don't. I don't read the comments anymore because

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Speaker 2: then I start to almost in a way, like believe them.

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Speaker 5: You know that's so true. Like you start reading it

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Speaker 5: and you're like, wait, do I look like that? Or

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Speaker 1: I was like, am I? Am I a narcissist? Am

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Speaker 5: To like diagnose you. Yeah, Like wait, maybe I.

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Speaker 2: Think it's good though, to look at ourselves. Like that's

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Speaker 2: the thing, Like I've taken some of these comments, like

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Speaker 2: there was something that happened a couple of months ago

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Speaker 2: And so it's like I think there's certain things that

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Speaker 2: like you can you can use those comments for good.

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Speaker 5: Right, yeah, no, you can spend it? Why oh yeah?

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Speaker 3: I think that was one of the questions.

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Speaker 4: And it doesn't have to be fun now, But one

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Speaker 4: And foremost I've read up a lot about it yesterday,

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Speaker 4: And because you're so authentic to who you are, and

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Speaker 4: you've remained authentic even when there's been opportunities to not be.

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Speaker 4: But even like your workout program, like the messaging you

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Speaker 4: really intelligent around how you quit yourself on social media

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Speaker 4: and media platforms. So that was that was a compliment

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Speaker 4: how like you spoke about your internal your inner voice,

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Speaker 4: your internal voice, how do you manage your internal voice

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Speaker 4: when you get the external negativity? Like the comments on

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Speaker 4: social media I read like I didn't read it, but

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Speaker 3: One of them was like in.

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Speaker 4: Trust me at this is an educational piece because there's

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Speaker 4: so many young listeners that are on this podcast, and

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Speaker 4: it was like, oh, she walks faster to McDonald's than

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Speaker 4: the runway, So how do you deal with stuff like that?

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Speaker 4: And it's I guess it's just to educate whoever's listening

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Speaker 5: Yeah, thank you. No, I really appreciate that compliment.

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Speaker 6: I think going back to like what you were saying

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Speaker 6: Jena about like the comments, Yes, you can turn it

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Speaker 6: into good, but you have to realize, like majority of

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Speaker 6: the people that are commenting, like they don't know you,

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Speaker 6: they don't follow you, you don't get on the phone,

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Speaker 6: you don't talk to them. If it was a family

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Speaker 6: down and gave you like criticism, it's like.

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Speaker 5: Okay, like I'll look within, let's talk about this.

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Speaker 6: But it's someone online, maybe with a fake profile photo

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Speaker 6: or a fake name, or just honestly a really miserable person.

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Speaker 5: And like you have to understand like misery.

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Speaker 6: Likes company, and people that are doing well aren't compliment

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Speaker 5: So someone is like saying negative things about me, I

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Speaker 6: I look at them like, oh I'm sorry, like I

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Speaker 6: and successful, They're not going to sit there and comment

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Speaker 5: But I never had those self deprecating thoughts of like

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you've been quoted this same being fit and healthy

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean I just think that going back to

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Speaker 5: Like it has.

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Speaker 6: Really nothing little to do with losing weight. If that's

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Speaker 5: It doesn't matter. Do what you want.

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Speaker 5: And it's like it goes so much farther.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 3: Yeah that is, but a.

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Speaker 4: Zempic makes you whether it be right, and seeing that

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Speaker 3: Lose weight if you take it.

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Speaker 5: Definitely.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: So it's interesting because I went to an obgi N

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Speaker 6: Like I'm very like, I feel like I can do

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Speaker 5: But if you're going to give me a quick fix like.

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Speaker 5: Of goes against what I preach.

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Speaker 6: So it made me a little icky feeling, and I

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Speaker 5: I want to stick to an alternative route. If you're

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Speaker 6: Less dairy and gluten because it's too much inflammation, I'll

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Speaker 5: You know, if lower impact work workouts.

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Speaker 6: Help my body more with PCUS rather than like high intensity. Great,

445
00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:08,199
Speaker 6: I'll go on more walks like I'm more of like

446
00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:10,199
Speaker 6: I want to do a holistic approach on it. So

447
00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:13,480
Speaker 6: I haven't taken ozembic. I believe that it could do

448
00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:14,200
Speaker 6: a lot of great things.

449
00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:15,240
Speaker 5: I know a lot of close.

450
00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:17,040
Speaker 6: Friends and family that actually are on it and it

451
00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:20,520
Speaker 6: has helped them tremendously great. But I just think in

452
00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:23,840
Speaker 6: this point in my life, it's not for me. And

453
00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:26,240
Speaker 6: she was like, okay, like I respect that, like we'll

454
00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:29,480
Speaker 6: you know, monitor everything and see how everything's doing. And

455
00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:31,520
Speaker 6: I'm on like a close regimen and stuff with her.

456
00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:34,080
Speaker 5: But I have been offered it and I have not

457
00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:35,239
Speaker 5: taken it.

458
00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:40,000
Speaker 4: No congratulations, folks. Second, see of morals and values on it.

459
00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:40,840
Speaker 1: Well, I'll let me.

460
00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:45,000
Speaker 2: I'll just say people, I'm sure they have morals as

461
00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:47,119
Speaker 2: well that they have to go on it. You know,

462
00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:49,640
Speaker 2: they might go on for different you know. I think

463
00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:52,000
Speaker 2: that's just a touchy subject to it, because it's like,

464
00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:55,760
Speaker 2: I think everyone makes the right choice for themselves, right totally.

465
00:19:56,800 --> 00:19:58,320
Speaker 2: I totally hear what you're saying, though, you know, and

466
00:19:58,359 --> 00:20:02,640
Speaker 2: I think it would go against what your authenticity is

467
00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:06,880
Speaker 2: with your branding, and but you know, you're you're doing

468
00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:09,240
Speaker 2: the approach that is works best for you, you know.

469
00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:10,880
Speaker 5: And I'm not against it either.

470
00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:13,080
Speaker 6: So like, if let's say I'm saying this now, but

471
00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:15,879
Speaker 6: let's say eight months from now, nothing's changed, maybe my

472
00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:18,080
Speaker 6: levels are not good, and she's looking at my blood

473
00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:18,880
Speaker 6: work and she's like, we.

474
00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:19,720
Speaker 5: Need to get this down.

475
00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:22,280
Speaker 6: I really think ozepic will help with the inflammation of

476
00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:25,160
Speaker 6: the whatever hormones that you're having. Like, okay, great, we'll

477
00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:28,199
Speaker 6: revisit that conversation. You know what I'm saying. So I

478
00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:30,560
Speaker 6: agree that it really does depend on the person and

479
00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:31,440
Speaker 6: what fits for you.

480
00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:34,399
Speaker 5: What I do have a problem.

481
00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:35,960
Speaker 6: With, and it can be controversial saying, but what I

482
00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:40,080
Speaker 6: do have a problem is when smaller people are going

483
00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:43,480
Speaker 6: into the notion of like this whole like a lot

484
00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:46,600
Speaker 6: has changed, Like everyone wants to be skinny. Skinny's in again, right, So,

485
00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:49,560
Speaker 6: like the Heroic Sheet came back, and I know a

486
00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:52,080
Speaker 6: lot of smaller women that are getting on it just

487
00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:54,200
Speaker 6: for the want and desire to be smaller.

488
00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:56,480
Speaker 5: Now, am I like, shame on you?

489
00:20:56,520 --> 00:20:56,560
Speaker 4: No?

490
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Speaker 6: But what hurts me is when like online people are

491
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Speaker 6: coming on on that are maybe starting as a size

492
00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:05,280
Speaker 6: four and have no health issues, and they're getting on

493
00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:07,800
Speaker 6: it just to get thinner, while telling an audience you

494
00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:09,480
Speaker 6: should do it too, this is what I'm doing. I

495
00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:12,040
Speaker 6: look so good, I'm so skinny. I think that can

496
00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:16,240
Speaker 6: be harmful. So I have a hard time. It's a

497
00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:18,440
Speaker 6: very touchy subject with Ozambic.

498
00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:18,920
Speaker 5: For sure.

499
00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:20,520
Speaker 3: Well, you're lucky right now.

500
00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:23,880
Speaker 4: Medically you have a choice where there's medically some people

501
00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:24,400
Speaker 4: might not.

502
00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:26,359
Speaker 3: Be able to have a choice. Yeah, you'll be forced

503
00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:28,080
Speaker 3: to take it exactly.

504
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Speaker 1: I'm curious.

505
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Speaker 2: I'm like the guy standpoint because I feel like, did

506
00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:37,199
Speaker 2: you ever have body stuff while playing or feeling like

507
00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:39,720
Speaker 2: you had to? Because I feel like everyone kind of

508
00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:43,280
Speaker 2: has their own you know. I'm forty, and so I

509
00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:45,879
Speaker 2: was of the age of like having to be, you know,

510
00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:48,560
Speaker 2: super thin. And when I after I just had it.

511
00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:52,480
Speaker 2: We just had a baby nine months ago, and I

512
00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:54,240
Speaker 2: started my friends like, you know, you should really start

513
00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:56,159
Speaker 2: lifting weights, and you need to eat more. Like I've

514
00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:58,040
Speaker 2: never eaten as much food in my entire life, and

515
00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:00,960
Speaker 2: I had to retrain my brain to stop weighing myself,

516
00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:02,480
Speaker 2: you know, like there were so many things I had

517
00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:04,320
Speaker 2: to like change and like, oh I can I can

518
00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:06,680
Speaker 2: eat this and I can eat this like and it

519
00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:09,479
Speaker 2: was fascinating how at forty years old, I'm having to

520
00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:12,919
Speaker 2: retrain my brain of what I thought it was supposed

521
00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:15,760
Speaker 2: to be. And then I'm like, oh, I've been missing out.

522
00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:18,960
Speaker 2: I'm like eat food and eating and like enjoying my

523
00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:21,720
Speaker 2: life and also like lifting and I don't have to

524
00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:24,199
Speaker 2: run every single day miles and miles and miles and

525
00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:28,200
Speaker 2: like kill myself, like lift weights instead and eat more food.

526
00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:30,040
Speaker 1: Like what I love that?

527
00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:33,920
Speaker 2: I don't know, like on your side, like have you

528
00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:34,679
Speaker 2: where does it feel like?

529
00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:35,080
Speaker 3: Well?

530
00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:38,200
Speaker 4: When I played, you're always like when when you play

531
00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:41,800
Speaker 4: professional soccer, most days you're on a calorie and deficit,

532
00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:45,440
Speaker 4: and not through choice, just because you've bune so many

533
00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:49,040
Speaker 4: calories training, but you also you've got a certain weight

534
00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:50,679
Speaker 4: that you want to keep yourself up because you know

535
00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:52,680
Speaker 4: that's you're playing mate, you've got a certain body fat

536
00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:57,240
Speaker 4: percent because the part of that is the social pressure

537
00:22:57,240 --> 00:22:59,040
Speaker 4: as well, because you get mates and if you get

538
00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:02,240
Speaker 4: teammates that are most of them are eight percent body

539
00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:04,720
Speaker 4: fat and ten percent and you're fourteen, then you've got

540
00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:07,280
Speaker 4: that pressure from and then the dressing room. I was

541
00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:10,040
Speaker 4: lucky that I was always kind of balance from my weight,

542
00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:13,200
Speaker 4: but whenever I felt I was getting a bit heavy,

543
00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:18,040
Speaker 4: I would just do more. But I think certain people

544
00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:21,200
Speaker 4: react well to being in a calorie deficit, and some

545
00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:23,000
Speaker 4: people don't.

546
00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:26,200
Speaker 2: They just make up that it's easier for guys to

547
00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:27,760
Speaker 2: fluctuate as opposed to women.

548
00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:30,560
Speaker 1: It's worry the pregnant or you know.

549
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Speaker 4: I think that's just an assumption. I think guys worry

550
00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:37,120
Speaker 4: about it. Maybe not as much as women, but they

551
00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:40,240
Speaker 4: certainly certainly worry about it. Like being in a dressing

552
00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:44,159
Speaker 4: room with guys, like it's a big thing how you

553
00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:46,239
Speaker 4: look and how fit you are and how lean you are.

554
00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:48,080
Speaker 3: I mean it, it's huge.

555
00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:48,879
Speaker 5: Right.

556
00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:52,399
Speaker 6: It is interesting now to hear a guys perspective, What

557
00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:54,920
Speaker 6: do you think about the whole notion of like the

558
00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:58,199
Speaker 6: pressure of women to be smaller is greater than the

559
00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:01,600
Speaker 6: pressure for men to be smaller. Like men, I feel

560
00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:04,560
Speaker 6: like a physique and having muscles, maybe you have pressure

561
00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:06,320
Speaker 6: to like get fit and have these like great big

562
00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:09,480
Speaker 6: muscles or abs. But like for but we appreciate a

563
00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:13,480
Speaker 6: dad bot, right, We're like, yeah, I never appreciated.

564
00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:14,479
Speaker 1: I love it, like you always like, oh my bell.

565
00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:15,880
Speaker 1: I'm like babe, I love like.

566
00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:19,560
Speaker 3: Point a dad poon.

567
00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:23,040
Speaker 2: No, I'm just saying like like sometimes you're like I

568
00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:24,960
Speaker 2: have to work out, and I'm like, babe, I love it.

569
00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:27,120
Speaker 7: Like give me the cushion, you know what I mean,

570
00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:32,359
Speaker 7: there's a weight that you're comfortable with that you've got,

571
00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:36,000
Speaker 7: Like there's a certain weight that you're comfortable with physiologically

572
00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:36,880
Speaker 7: that you you.

573
00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:38,640
Speaker 4: Can have energy and you can go and work out.

574
00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:41,080
Speaker 4: But then you've got a way where you might be

575
00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:44,240
Speaker 4: preparing for something like a holiday or a honeymoon or

576
00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:48,320
Speaker 4: a competition, and that weight is a lot lower.

577
00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:50,639
Speaker 1: But to her point, though.

578
00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:53,440
Speaker 4: It looks, it looks Lena, yeah, but you don't feel

579
00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:55,239
Speaker 4: like you've got as much energy. You don't know there

580
00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:58,600
Speaker 4: is as much brain function or But I think going

581
00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:00,600
Speaker 4: back to your point, there's a lot more more pressure

582
00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:04,080
Speaker 4: on women to be smaller one percent. I think those

583
00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:06,919
Speaker 4: are there's there's a different pressure on men to be

584
00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:10,520
Speaker 4: almost to be bok here and have more muscles.

585
00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:14,720
Speaker 2: No, that's just y'all's brain You're because I don't I mean,

586
00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:18,840
Speaker 2: I know, I know what you're saying, but nothing against

587
00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:21,400
Speaker 2: the big old muscle. But it's like I don't that's

588
00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:23,600
Speaker 2: that's not the some women might love that look. I

589
00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:28,000
Speaker 2: love this look, you know, No, not that you're you're

590
00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:31,119
Speaker 2: you're in ship, but either way, it's it's like I

591
00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:33,120
Speaker 2: don't look at you differently, like I don't.

592
00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:34,080
Speaker 1: I don't know.

593
00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:35,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, guys are funny.

594
00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:36,760
Speaker 6: I feel like they always feel like they need to

595
00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:38,960
Speaker 6: like and girls want them like we don't always want that.

596
00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:41,280
Speaker 6: Like you don't even have the big the biggest muscles

597
00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:43,440
Speaker 6: in that room, Like it's not like, oh yeah, it's

598
00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:47,720
Speaker 6: like okay, these muscles, Like it's not like I don't know, it's.

599
00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:50,119
Speaker 2: Different, but I do feel like there would be pressure

600
00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:51,600
Speaker 2: on the opposite.

601
00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:55,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, there's definitely more pressure for women.

602
00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:57,080
Speaker 3: It comes to that. I completely agree.

603
00:25:57,480 --> 00:25:59,600
Speaker 6: It goes so far back to like generations and like

604
00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:02,440
Speaker 6: in the town, in the media, it's like this celebrity

605
00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:05,280
Speaker 6: let herself go this, Oh she's been eating too many

606
00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:08,200
Speaker 6: cakes or Britney spears like not in the gym enough,

607
00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:11,560
Speaker 6: Like this started from way way back. Just like in

608
00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:13,840
Speaker 6: the media, what was just shaming women. I mean, if

609
00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:16,960
Speaker 6: you see those interviews too of you know, men making

610
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:18,960
Speaker 6: the like they were interviewing I forget who it was,

611
00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:21,040
Speaker 6: but they made her step on a scale in the interview.

612
00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:24,040
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, who was that? I just saw that some

613
00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:41,080
Speaker 2: documentary or that was wild. Why So this doesn't even

614
00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:42,840
Speaker 2: have to be food related. It can just be in

615
00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:46,680
Speaker 2: life in general. But what is the most unhealthy thing

616
00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:48,880
Speaker 2: you do in your life? And what is the healthiest

617
00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:49,440
Speaker 2: thing that you do?

618
00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:54,600
Speaker 5: Oh, that's a good question. Thanks, It's a really good one.

619
00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:57,159
Speaker 5: It could be food or not food related.

620
00:26:57,200 --> 00:27:01,159
Speaker 6: So the unhealthiest thing I do, the n hoalthies thing

621
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:03,480
Speaker 6: I do, I feel like is.

622
00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:07,359
Speaker 5: Like not how do I word it?

623
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:11,920
Speaker 6: Like not prioritizing balance, like I have that like toxic

624
00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:16,320
Speaker 6: hustle hustle work grind culture like ingrained in me still

625
00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:19,200
Speaker 6: that I feel like if I'm not working twelve hours

626
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:20,520
Speaker 6: a day, like I'm not going to get to where

627
00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:22,600
Speaker 6: I want to be. And I feel like I'll be

628
00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:24,920
Speaker 6: on my computer like answering emails or working until like

629
00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:26,600
Speaker 6: ten at night, and my friends will like, dude, put

630
00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:29,200
Speaker 6: it down, like it's you know, and I whether it's

631
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:32,560
Speaker 6: a phone or computer, I feel like I'm always and

632
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:34,560
Speaker 6: then I and then I start comparing myself for like

633
00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:38,200
Speaker 6: I'm not doing enough, and it's like that self deprecating

634
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:39,920
Speaker 6: thoughts of like do more do more, do more.

635
00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:40,800
Speaker 5: And I think that like.

636
00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:43,320
Speaker 6: Hustle culture like actually catches up to you in a

637
00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:46,760
Speaker 6: physical way where I'll I'll start to feel my body

638
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:50,680
Speaker 6: shutting down, whether I'm getting sick or like things are

639
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:53,920
Speaker 6: going on internally, Like I feel it and it's real,

640
00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:56,159
Speaker 6: and so I have to like tell myself, like check yourself,

641
00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:58,440
Speaker 6: like it's okay to be normal and stop at let's

642
00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:01,399
Speaker 6: say six or seven before dinner and fucking rest for

643
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:01,919
Speaker 6: a second.

644
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:03,080
Speaker 5: Like I feel like I just go.

645
00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:05,000
Speaker 6: A million miles a minute and not in a good way,

646
00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:06,760
Speaker 6: and I feel like it's like unhealthy.

647
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:17,440
Speaker 5: So that's unhealthy healthy healthy? Healthy? This is why is

648
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:18,800
Speaker 5: it hard to think of something? Hell that I do?

649
00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:18,959
Speaker 2: This?

650
00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:22,639
Speaker 5: What the heck? I like this question now.

651
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:25,919
Speaker 1: Really bad question?

652
00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:28,159
Speaker 5: No, I know because now healthy I was thinking.

653
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:31,880
Speaker 6: I mean I would say healthy wise eating like friends

654
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:32,960
Speaker 6: or like guys I've dated, or.

655
00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:35,560
Speaker 5: Like you have like such a healthy, balanced diet, which is.

656
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:38,040
Speaker 6: Great, and like you motivate me a lot, like at dinner,

657
00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:39,800
Speaker 6: like we don't need to get dessert, Like what are

658
00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:40,200
Speaker 6: we doing?

659
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 5: Like I think I'm very practical in the way I eat.

660
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:46,840
Speaker 6: I'm practical in the way like of the mindset around

661
00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:48,400
Speaker 6: food of like is this gonna fuel me?

662
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:50,240
Speaker 5: But also not like depriving myself.

663
00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:53,680
Speaker 6: So like I've learned a lot with if you want it,

664
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:56,240
Speaker 6: you can have it because the more you focus on it,

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Speaker 6: like it's there's a term for it, I'm forgetting it.

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Speaker 6: But like mindful eat or what's it called intuitive eating,

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Speaker 6: I feel like that's healthy. Yeah, it's like that's my

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Speaker 6: healthy thing. Is like I'm great now at intuitively eating.

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Speaker 6: You know, I like to look at things that are

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Speaker 6: going to nourish my body. But then if I do

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Speaker 6: want a sweet treet or if I want to eat

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Speaker 6: like chips and salts like a taco at night, and

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Speaker 6: I'm like, I'm not going to beat myself up beat

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Speaker 6: myself up over it. I feel like I just balance

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Speaker 6: it out through the day. So I feel like I've

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Speaker 6: done that pretty well.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I love that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, good answer. It's like when I get the interestion

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Speaker 4: of I need free what to see.

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Speaker 1: Every night? Yeah? Every night?

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Speaker 2: He's we have like this cereal that we love and

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Speaker 2: is that I need it every night?

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Speaker 5: Right, see, like the late night treat.

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Speaker 2: Okay, it's okay, it's okay, it's all good. So what's next?

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Speaker 2: Where can our listeners find what you're doing all the things.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you can find me on Instagram and TikTok at

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Speaker 6: Ella Holikis. I'm going to fashion make really soon next week.

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Speaker 6: I'm really excited. I'm working on a few fun projects.

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Speaker 6: I do a lot of fun like recreation shoots, so

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Speaker 6: I'm working on like a new series that I'm going

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Speaker 6: to drop. I'm also looking and working at getting into

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Speaker 6: confident coaching. I feel like a lot of my audience

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Speaker 6: has been asking me for years now to help them,

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Speaker 6: So I'm working on building out kind of a business

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Speaker 6: structure around that and like bringing on more girls to

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Speaker 6: help them more one on one and in a group basis.

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Speaker 5: And yeah, just more and more fun things coming up.

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Speaker 1: So I love that.

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Speaker 2: We'll follow along with Ella everybody, and thank you so

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Speaker 2: much for coming on and just being you an authentic

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Speaker 2: and real so we appreciate you.

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Speaker 6: Thank you for having me. You guys are great. I

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Speaker 6: can't wait to follow along the journey.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, congrats, guys. You later I meet you.

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Speaker 7: Oh.

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Speaker 2: I love her. She's so good. She's so great, like

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Speaker 2: in her confidence is.

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Speaker 1: Pure. Yeah, that's that's what like we should all strive for.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's no agenda behind that she did, and.

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Speaker 1: There's no arrogance, there's no She's just I love that.

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Speaker 2: Kay. All right, well our first adult education dolls? Is

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Speaker 2: that what you're we're calling it adult education?

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Speaker 3: No? No, I've got that book.

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, you don't have did you do? Know

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Speaker 1: what I mean? Though I'm no, you're not, because you're

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Speaker 1: going to say that and.

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Speaker 3: I know I don't.

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Speaker 2: Okay, because though you say you're not sensitive, that'll come

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Speaker 2: back up in something. In about a week. You'll say

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Speaker 2: one little comment like I'm gonna have to go to

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Speaker 2: the gym because I've got a dad bad.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my gosh, that's not what I meant.

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Speaker 1: All Right, see you next week, honey,