Speaker 1: Check it in, man, and I'm just told the story now.
Speaker 2: It's one of those idiots of believe in analytics.
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Speaker 2: Kelly Midlin on nuego. What's happening, man?
Speaker 1: Nothing much, nothing much. I won money betting the NFL
Speaker 1: this weekend. It feels good.
Speaker 2: Oh it's a nice change, breaking Yeah, nice change. How
Speaker 2: about you? I did great? This was This is why
Speaker 2: we do guessing lines, right people, you know there's gonna
Speaker 2: be some people like why do we go through this process?
Speaker 2: We go through this process of guessing lines every Monday
Speaker 2: because oftentimes, through the years, not often, most of the time,
Speaker 2: the first instincts are the best instincts for me anyway
Speaker 2: on these NFL lines. And it's an exercise that everybody
Speaker 2: can play along with as we do it. It's not
Speaker 2: just to hear, oh what are his guesses? What are
Speaker 2: your guesses on this stuff? And last week I remember
Speaker 2: I lamented the fact that I was like, oh, I
Speaker 2: like way too much everything hit. Now, what is that?
Speaker 2: That means that our power, that the power rankings were corroborated.
Speaker 2: That means that the instincts were corroborated. And then what
Speaker 2: happens inevitably is that we give the guesses on Monday,
Speaker 2: and then you have to endure Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday
Speaker 2: up until you submit your contest to make your plays whatever,
Speaker 2: and some of your bets are made earlier, but you
Speaker 2: have to endure all the incoming counter right opinions. Right, So,
Speaker 2: for instance, I had the commanders. Remember my guess was
Speaker 2: five and a half against the Browns. Oh, that's way
Speaker 2: too much of an overaction. Even the three and the
Speaker 2: three and a half is way too much of an overaction.
Speaker 2: Everybody was on the Browns, all the two Oover School
Speaker 2: Sharps or the Browns. I thought that game was very split.
Speaker 2: And well, but here's the thing. The people that have
Speaker 2: that opinion are going to act like they didn't have
Speaker 2: that opinion. Right, it's going to get washed away. Same
Speaker 2: thing with the pers taking on the Rams, Right, that
Speaker 2: was supposed to be the trap spot. No, he's the
Speaker 2: Packers a better football team. It worked out, by the way,
Speaker 2: that might not have worked out. I'm not saying that
Speaker 2: that was that wasn't plinko at the end. The Texans
Speaker 2: and the Bills that worked out, The Vikings and the
Speaker 2: Jets that worked out. So I'm just saying, like, this
Speaker 2: is why we do this exercise, and so it was
Speaker 2: a good week. Now that's not to say every week
Speaker 2: works out like this, right, because I can just go
Speaker 2: back to weeks two and three of this year. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that didn't work out so well, but you'd like to
Speaker 2: think that that's you know, that's just okay, that's what
Speaker 2: happens in September when you're trying to get your bearings
Speaker 2: on this stuff. So anyway, the Saints, hopefully tonight cover
Speaker 2: to get the five and OHO in millions, which is
Speaker 2: the beginning of a quarter, which is a good time
Speaker 2: to go five and oh if you can. Ye though
Speaker 2: it is a five week quarter and not a four
Speaker 2: week quarter, So there's that Yeah, that always that always
Speaker 2: brings down the vibes start. Yeah, it makes you not
Speaker 2: think about it at all, but yeah, and.
Speaker 1: You feel like you need to you you feel like
Speaker 1: you need two great weeks to start off with.
Speaker 2: Before you can even boldly get excited right in a
Speaker 2: four week you need to right a five week. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's not even two. We always start with Survivor before
Speaker 2: we get into guessing lines for week six. We always
Speaker 2: start with Survivor. Kelly. There will never, and I am
Speaker 2: not being prisoner of the moment, there will never be
Speaker 2: another Survivor season like this. We are not even through
Speaker 2: five weeks of Survivor at Circa. By the way, I
Speaker 2: just said Survivor because apparently I wanted to say Circa
Speaker 2: too quickly. Circa Survivor through five weeks. Another fifty three
Speaker 2: point nine six percent of the remaining entries heading into
Speaker 2: this past week are gone. So we have out of
Speaker 2: fourteen thousand, two hundred and sixty six that started us
Speaker 2: as of this moment. Keep in mind, they're sixteen on
Speaker 2: the Chiefs tonight as of this moment. Out of those
Speaker 2: fourteen thy two hundred and sixty six, two hundred and
Speaker 2: twenty one entries remain. That is all ninety eight point
Speaker 2: four five percent of entries post heading into tonight in
Speaker 2: five weeks. I don't know if we know anybody who
Speaker 2: left who has a entry. Just think it.
Speaker 1: So I think I heard what from the network, Mitch
Speaker 1: Moss had one left, Mike Sawmitch.
Speaker 2: Had one left. Well, I didn't even know that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I believe those two from the network were the
Speaker 1: only ones that had entries left.
Speaker 2: I believe are they through? I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't know about this though. I'm just thinking heading
Speaker 1: into this week, we knew Crack had his right.
Speaker 2: I think I think all of our guys, I think Crack, Cleave, Peta,
Speaker 2: unless they tell me differently, I'm a little worried that
Speaker 2: they all got knocked out. I don't know. I'm getting
Speaker 2: text now, so maybe maybe somebody's like, I'm still in
Speaker 2: I feel it buzzed in my thigh. So the point though,
Speaker 2: ninety nine point excuse me, ninety eight point four to five,
Speaker 2: which means one point five five percent of remaining entries,
Speaker 2: that's it, are still there. That's it. One point five
Speaker 2: to five percent of the total number of entries are
Speaker 2: still alive. So if you got knocked out in week
Speaker 2: three like you and I did, are we like were
Speaker 2: we early quote unquote this year and the week five
Speaker 2: rs are late? Like?
Speaker 1: Is it?
Speaker 2: It's just so ridiculous. Seahawks, the biggest culprit one hundred
Speaker 2: and sixty. By the way, I would have been out
Speaker 2: a second time. So now now you now I've graduated
Speaker 2: to I can't even be upset about it anymore. Uh.
Speaker 2: And then the forty nine ers again, snatching defeat from
Speaker 2: the jaws of victory eighty six on them. That's it, man,
Speaker 2: this is incredible.
Speaker 1: I use Seahawks week one in one entry, so like
Speaker 1: that wouldn't have been an option for me.
Speaker 2: But I don't even know who I would.
Speaker 4: Have gone with this week. Luckily I didn't even have
Speaker 4: to think about it.
Speaker 2: Seahawks would have absolutely been mine. Intrinsic value of each
Speaker 2: of the remaining two hundred and twenty one entries heading
Speaker 2: into tonight is poo poo, poo poop sixty four thousand,
Speaker 2: Oh my, yeah, five hundred and five, five hundred and
Speaker 2: fifty two dollars and four cents. Let me say that again.
Speaker 2: Sixty four thousand, five hundred fifty two dollars and four
Speaker 2: American pennies. What is the what's the website again? Survivor Sweat,
Speaker 2: Survivor's Sweat. Yeah, I'd be like, yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, to buy two percent, please buy two percent? Clear
Speaker 1: my contest and I'll ride the rest of this way.
Speaker 2: And I really do wonder if the good folks at
Speaker 2: circu if Derek Stevens and the folks who you know
Speaker 2: are are all you know, the ones who came up,
Speaker 2: who not only came up with the contest but manages contest.
Speaker 2: I wonder if they have the conversations and I bet
Speaker 2: they do where they're like, this is kind of too
Speaker 2: early for everybody to be knocked out. They must be
Speaker 2: a little worried that there is going to be a
Speaker 2: group of people. I think it's gonna still grow, but
Speaker 2: there's got to be a group that's like, I'm not
Speaker 2: entering this again. This is so this is ridiculous.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So, like my only concern, actually, who's having this
Speaker 1: conversation with I think was Wes and Matt actually before
Speaker 1: we recorded a Long Shots episode. I don't think the
Speaker 1: the interest goes away from people losing. I think it's
Speaker 1: from the lack of discussion that will be about it
Speaker 1: later in the season. You're just not gonna think about
Speaker 1: out of sight, out of mind situation.
Speaker 2: That is a great point.
Speaker 1: And then you wonder about the like like the second
Speaker 1: chance uh survivor pools, we've seen like rest of places, but.
Speaker 2: We think that's a game.
Speaker 4: I think it's a gaming issue out here in the FATA.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm not sure nor would it interest
Speaker 2: me right, and I think it wouldn't interest most. Let's
Speaker 2: do it. Let's get a game and if we can,
Speaker 2: if we could squeeze one in for Week six Football
Speaker 2: League Guessing lines, we have it open, Yes we do.
Speaker 2: Would the actual SCRAMs free p Kelly, which is a
Speaker 2: hel close Gill be the actual spro okay, Thursday night.
Speaker 2: It's a fun one.
Speaker 1: Steve Fezik Bettett already has Gil forty nine ers at Seahawks.
Speaker 2: Forty nine ers at Seahawks. What do you say about
Speaker 2: me in there? What do you say? I said it
Speaker 2: has Gil has Gil? No, I have none. Forty nine
Speaker 2: ers at Seahawks, forty nine ers against. That's defeat from
Speaker 2: the jaws of victory. Uh, Kyler Murray as the Cardinals
Speaker 2: are wont to do scoring first Murray to McBride for
Speaker 2: twenty two and then Kyler for fifty. By the way,
Speaker 2: thanks to to the person who tweeted me, this next
Speaker 2: gen stat says that Kyler was running over twenty two
Speaker 2: miles per hour on this run, which is the fastest
Speaker 2: any quarterback has run to the house in the last
Speaker 2: eight years. Oh. By way of comparison, Steve Austin, the
Speaker 2: six million dollar man, was north of sixty million dollars,
Speaker 2: but he had he had bionics going for him.
Speaker 1: See not a fair comparison is that diy kitchen staft
Speaker 1: that they have scored on every opening drive so far.
Speaker 2: I think that's true. I don't really know what falls
Speaker 2: off after that, but they're doing that well bionics. By
Speaker 2: the way, San Francisco then comes back perty dyuke for
Speaker 2: fifty three. They have to settle for a field goal
Speaker 2: seven to three Arizona, but then Arizona three and out.
Speaker 2: San Francisco long drive party to Kittle from four out
Speaker 2: ten to seven nine ers. Ryland would have a field
Speaker 2: goal because Prader's hurt for Arizona to tie it to ten,
Speaker 2: but then a Moody field goal and a Moody field
Speaker 2: goal puts the Niners up thirteen to ten. Ryland then
Speaker 2: got a blocked field goal by Jordan Elliott, with which
Speaker 2: Lenoire excuse me had diamidore Lenoir ran back to the
Speaker 2: house for sixty one yards twenty to ten. San Francisco
Speaker 2: was twenty three to ten San Francisco at the half,
Speaker 2: after Murray was picked by Nick Bosa, setting up a
Speaker 2: Wishnowski field goal because earlier Jake Moody when it was
Speaker 2: twenty to ten, Jake Moody got hurt his kicking foot
Speaker 2: got hurt trying to make a tackle on the ensuing kick.
Speaker 2: So now the Niners up twenty three to ten, get
Speaker 2: a field goal from Wishnowski, but a chip shot twenty
Speaker 2: five yard of that Uschek was the holder for so
Speaker 2: twenty three to ten, and then that was it for
Speaker 2: the Niners. That was it because third quarter Niners were
Speaker 2: first in ten. Their own twenty four picked perty was
Speaker 2: by Mack Wilson Senior, the god to settle for the
Speaker 2: field goal Arizona did twenty three to thirteen. Then the
Speaker 2: Niners stalled on fourth and twenty three at the Arizona
Speaker 2: twenty seven because they have no kicker, so they turned
Speaker 2: it over on downs because that was a little too
Speaker 2: far for them to try. Arizona long drive Kyler to
Speaker 2: Elijah Higgins from two out and because of the roughing
Speaker 2: the passer penalty, they took the two point conversion from
Speaker 2: the one score that twenty three to twenty one San
Speaker 2: Francisco with eleven twenty five left. Then San Francisco matriculated again,
Speaker 2: first and goal at the Arizona eight, and Jordan Mason fumbled,
Speaker 2: swatted away by Jesse Lacoute Luketa, recovered by Mack Wilson Senior.
Speaker 2: Remember now San Francisco has no kicker, so if Arizona
Speaker 2: is able to get a field goal, what are they
Speaker 2: gonna do? And Arizona did just that thirty five yard
Speaker 2: field goal from Ryland twenty four to twenty three Arizona
Speaker 2: with one thirty seven left. San Francisco starts at their
Speaker 2: own twenty seven with one thirty two to go. Second play,
Speaker 2: Purdy hit as he throws by Jalen Thompson, ball goes
Speaker 2: eye in the air, picked by Kaziir White. Ball game.
Speaker 2: That's it. Eighty six survivors out. How about that? Amazing?
Speaker 2: And then they's Seattle.
Speaker 1: I didn't even catch the first kick. Kylie Yuschek, what
Speaker 1: doesn't he do?
Speaker 2: He does? He's amazing, he does it all we can't
Speaker 2: get in the Seattle Giants game. But all I can
Speaker 2: say is this, when it first started, Jones was sacked
Speaker 2: and he fumbled the first play, but Andrew Thomas recovered it.
Speaker 2: Then they converted a third and seventeen two plays later,
Speaker 2: and they got all the way down field. They got
Speaker 2: to fourth and goal at the doorstep Gray Eric Gray
Speaker 2: tackled by Jerome Baker, he fumbles and ray Sean Jenkins
Speaker 2: returned it one hundred and one yards of the house.
Speaker 2: Isn't it interesting that the only replay they had was
Speaker 2: from the back of the end zone because it looked
Speaker 2: that he had It looked like he had scored. If
Speaker 2: you had had the goal line angle on this anyway,
Speaker 2: if you were Seattle Survivor player, you were like, oh,
Speaker 2: that's the reprieve we needed. Instead, you lose, you just lose. Ultimately,
Speaker 2: you lose because well, Seattle started at their own five
Speaker 2: with five poin fifty three to go gino to Jackson
Speaker 2: Smith and a jigma from five out to cut it
Speaker 2: to twenty three to twenty, and then you took over
Speaker 2: with the ball at the three excuse me down three
Speaker 2: at your own thirty four, and ultimately Jason Myer's forty
Speaker 2: seven yard field goal was blocked and returned to the house.
Speaker 2: Ball game twenty nine to twenty. That's it. I'll say
Speaker 2: Niners by three and a half on the road, three
Speaker 2: pretty much everywhere right now? Wow, just three coming back?
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Speaker 2: the line it's only three on the Niners. It's not
Speaker 2: three in a hook. Huh, Nope, has not moved. Interesting three.
Speaker 2: There's some juiced threes out there. But I kind of
Speaker 2: dig it, I kind of dig it and look, I
Speaker 2: know the Niners haven't have to take them down from
Speaker 2: the lofty perch that I have them on. But I
Speaker 2: don't think they're bad. I just think that's interesting that
Speaker 2: they collapsed in two of these games already. Now, I
Speaker 2: want to say one other thing about that Seattle game,
Speaker 2: because I know we rushed through that and that was,
Speaker 2: by the way, that was the biggest again survivor culper
Speaker 2: at one hundred and sixty of the remaining four to eighty,
Speaker 2: exactly a third of the remaining went down with Seattle
Speaker 2: Giants did something at the end of that game. We're
Speaker 2: always crushing coaches, but I want to like shout out
Speaker 2: Brian Dable and the Giants. They got it to twenty
Speaker 2: nine to twenty on that blocked field goal by Isaiah Simmons,
Speaker 2: which was returned by Bryce Ford Wheat and sixty yards
Speaker 2: of the house made it twenty nine to twenty. The
Speaker 2: Giants took a knee on the ensuing point after, and
Speaker 2: the point of that was, don't risk a extra point
Speaker 2: that could be blocked and returned for two points, which
Speaker 2: would make it a seven point game. Nor do you
Speaker 2: want to risk a fumble same thing happening, so taking
Speaker 2: a knee. Just these little details that certain coaches get
Speaker 2: and others don't. Yeah, good call. I didn't catch that.
Speaker 1: I saw it after I saw it later on in
Speaker 1: the evening, the shout out to Dable, let's go to yeah,
Speaker 1: and that was the Also what the tricky with the
Speaker 1: with the blocked kick right where he had to split
Speaker 1: the long snapper and the guard next to him, so
Speaker 1: he's not over the top of the long snapper.
Speaker 2: Also does he does he he can't touch a seahawk
Speaker 2: when he's doing that as well. I was hoping you
Speaker 2: were gonna ask me this question. I thought.
Speaker 1: I thought you could still leap over the snapper as
Speaker 1: long as you didn't touch him.
Speaker 2: That's that's what I thought.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but will break down I heard this morning was
Speaker 1: because he split the long snapper and the guy.
Speaker 2: Next week, we need a clarification on that. Either way,
Speaker 2: it was not a flag contact or not yet no flag.
Speaker 2: So yeah, all right, let's go to Sunday. I kind
Speaker 2: of like that on San Francisco, kind of like that.
Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, Sunday we were back in London, the home
Speaker 1: of the Jaguars. They will face the Bears there.
Speaker 2: The home of the Jaguars to get to chill in
Speaker 2: London all week filling two weeks. Right, well, this is yeah, absolutely,
Speaker 2: they get to chill this week coming up, and then
Speaker 2: the yeah for two in a row. Jacksonville at Chicago
Speaker 2: technically but in London. Jacksonville beats Indianapolis, gets off the
Speaker 2: schneid their first win of the season. They were the
Speaker 2: last winless Indianapolis opening drive. I just gotta point this out,
Speaker 2: Kelly Josh Downs flagged for illegal demonstration again mimicking the gun. Now,
Speaker 2: we want to give the proper people credit for this,
Speaker 2: but but we we have talked about how ridiculous this
Speaker 2: is now in the NFL. By the way, Josh Downs
Speaker 2: did very little, like he barely made emotion, and the
Speaker 2: NFL is really cracking down on this and they're flagging
Speaker 2: all demonstrations like this. But they pointed out, will give
Speaker 2: them credit any demonstration.
Speaker 1: That you know, they think might be symbolizing a gun
Speaker 1: that mimics any kind of gunfire, which which I don't
Speaker 1: necessarily disagree with.
Speaker 2: I don't necessarily disagree with, but these guys will give
Speaker 2: them credit. But they saw something. Someone was brilliant doing
Speaker 2: this because they were pointing out the hypocrisy of you know,
Speaker 2: they shoot off a cannon in Tampa. They shoot off
Speaker 2: a cannon in Tampa when someone scores, and in New England.
Speaker 2: In New England they actually do a whole like gun
Speaker 2: powder into the musket and then firing squad thing right, Yeah,
Speaker 2: like actual colonial dressed like colonial folks. So they were joking.
Speaker 2: What an NFL player should do is they should after
Speaker 2: they make a first down catch, they should mimic like
Speaker 2: it should take forever, right, loading your musket, musket, loading
Speaker 2: your musket with gunfire, and then see what they do.
Speaker 2: See if they flag it, they'd be like, look at
Speaker 2: those guys right up there. Anyway, I never thought about
Speaker 2: that before. It was a great call out with those guys.
Speaker 2: I understand what the NFL's tried to do, but yeah,
Speaker 2: it's a little tough with it.
Speaker 1: There's yeah, eight guys dressed up like revolutionary war heroes
Speaker 1: back there, fire a.
Speaker 2: Musco dumb all right. Well, well, Indianapolis was able to
Speaker 2: overcome that flag Flac Pittman Junior seven to nothing Indianapolis
Speaker 2: early first quarter. Jacksonville then had a fourth and two
Speaker 2: at the Indianapols twenty six. They're allergic to field goals
Speaker 2: Lawrence incomplete, intended for Thomas Junior. Jacksonville would get it
Speaker 2: back from their own eleven. They'd get it to fourth
Speaker 2: and one at their own forty two. Then Lawrence snuck
Speaker 2: Lawrence with a sneak. They got smart there for first
Speaker 2: then they got it to fourth and two at the
Speaker 2: Indianapolis and then they decided we'll get the field goal.
Speaker 2: So they were down seven to three. Cam Little hits
Speaker 2: it from twenty three yards out. We're still now in
Speaker 2: the second quarter. Jacksonville. Next time they got the ball,
Speaker 2: one play Lawrence to Thomas Junior for eighty five touchdown.
Speaker 2: Jaguars take the lead ten to seven with seven oh
Speaker 2: two left in the second quarter. It was thirteen to
Speaker 2: ten Jacksonville at the half, and in the third quarter,
Speaker 2: Jacksonville second and seven at the Indianapols forty one, Lawrence
Speaker 2: picked deep by Nick Cross. Indianapolis couldn't do anything with it,
Speaker 2: but on the ensuing punt, Devin Duverne returned. Rigobert dos
Speaker 2: Sanchez's punt fifty three yards first played Bigsby in from
Speaker 2: nineteen and the Jaguars had themselves a ten point lead.
Speaker 2: Halfway through the third quarter. A little more than halfway through.
Speaker 2: But here's where Joe Flacco flaccoed Indianapolis fifteen play, seventy
Speaker 2: yard drive Flaco to mo Ali Cox on third and
Speaker 2: fifteen from the eighteen touchdown, twenty to seventeen Jacksonville after
Speaker 2: a face mask second and twenty four from their own
Speaker 2: sixteen Lawrence to Kirk for sixty one that led to
Speaker 2: Lawrence to Brenton Strange four yard touchdown pass plays later,
Speaker 2: twenty seven to seventeen Jacksonville. It would get to twenty
Speaker 2: seven to twenty and then Jacksonville up seven second play
Speaker 2: Bigsby in from sixty five and Jacksonville is coasting fourteen
Speaker 2: point lead with five h nine left. It's over right
Speaker 2: wrong because Joe Flacco came with a cape Flacco to
Speaker 2: Piers for twenty four, then forty five to Pierce. Next
Speaker 2: play trace Sermon in from one thirty four to twenty seven.
Speaker 2: By the way, Alec Pearce, what a ball game. Three
Speaker 2: catches all were spectacular that got into thirty four to
Speaker 2: twenty seven Jacksonville. By the way, interesting talking about coaches
Speaker 2: and their decision making, Usually when you go from fourteen
Speaker 2: to eight, coaches go for two at that point, Not Indianapolis,
Speaker 2: Not Shane Steiken. He just kicked the extra point fourteen
Speaker 2: to seven. Then excuse me, not fourteen to seven, pardon me,
Speaker 2: thirty four to twenty seven. Indianapolis got the ball back
Speaker 2: after Jacksonville three and out. They took over at their
Speaker 2: own thirty five with three to twenty five to go.
Speaker 2: Sermon for seventeen, followed by Flacco to Peers for sixty
Speaker 2: five thirty four, all with two forty left. Is like,
Speaker 2: could Joe Flacco, who should be the quarterback in Cleveland,
Speaker 2: by the way, is he is he gonna pull this off? No?
Speaker 2: Jacksonville got it in field goal range camp little forty
Speaker 2: nine yard field goal. Jacksonville wins thirty seven thirty four.
Speaker 2: They get off the schneid. I have learned nothing about
Speaker 2: either team, oh not. I have no idea what's going on?
Speaker 2: And who's Jacksonville playing? In London? In Chicago, the Bears
Speaker 2: beat the Panthers. Not much to talk about here other
Speaker 2: than the first half or Carolina. They had a fourth
Speaker 2: and one at the Chicago forty two early Deonte for
Speaker 2: for next play Hubbard Schuba Hubbard in from thirty eight.
Speaker 2: Carolina led seven to nothing. That was the high point
Speaker 2: of the game for them, because then it was Chicago
Speaker 2: seven play, seventy yard drive Caleb to DJ Moore for
Speaker 2: thirty four to tie it. Then after Carolina punch Chicago
Speaker 2: thirteen plays eighty yards Roshan in from one fourteen to seven.
Speaker 2: Then later Carolina third play ensuing drive Dalton to tremble.
Speaker 2: Actually a couple drives later Dalton to Tremble hit by
Speaker 2: Jakwan Briskerry. Fumbles were covered by Gervon Dexter Senior. Chicago
Speaker 2: set up at the Carolina forty four with two forty
Speaker 2: nine left, Caleb to Swift for forty two, then two
Speaker 2: plays later Swift in from one twenty one to seven Chicago.
Speaker 2: Then after Carolina upon Chicago from their own thirty seven
Speaker 2: with fifty five seconds left, three plays into Comet for
Speaker 2: twenty five, two plays later to More for thirty. It
Speaker 2: was twenty seven to seven at the half. That's really
Speaker 2: all you need to know. Oh one other thing, just
Speaker 2: one last thing. When it was thirty to seven Chicago
Speaker 2: more than halfway through the third quarter, Carolina, down twenty
Speaker 2: three points, had a fourth and goal at the Chicago nine,
Speaker 2: and they trotted out Pinero for a twenty seven yardfield
Speaker 2: goal to cut it to thirty to ten. Because Kelly,
Speaker 2: when you get a chance to cut a three score
Speaker 2: lead into a three score deficit into a three score deficit,
Speaker 2: you absolutely take that opportunity. Anyway, Caroline ends up winning,
Speaker 2: get thirty six to ten. So Jacksonville at in quotes
Speaker 2: Chicago in London, that sounds like a real barn burner
Speaker 2: that no one wants to get up for. But I'll
Speaker 2: say Chicago minus two and.
Speaker 1: A half, Yeah, you're all over at two and a
Speaker 1: half or two's out there right now, see.
Speaker 2: One one and a half. But yeah, pretty much in
Speaker 2: that range. I don't know about you. Not a lot
Speaker 2: to take away from either one of these teams. I
Speaker 2: have a feeling the Bears.
Speaker 1: Bears are gonna be one of these teams that I
Speaker 1: think we talked a lot about.
Speaker 2: The Bullies last year.
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna be able to take what that defense,
Speaker 1: gonna be able to take advantage to some of these
Speaker 1: bad teams. But man, I don't I think when they
Speaker 1: go up against quality competition, which I'm not saying Jacksonville is,
Speaker 1: but I don't think Jacksonville's as bad as there as
Speaker 1: bad as their record says.
Speaker 2: Right now, either if Chicago won this by twenty or
Speaker 2: Jacksonville wanted by twenty, all right, maybe I'm exaggerating twenty,
Speaker 2: but let's say two scores. Would you be surprised either way? No,
Speaker 2: I wouldn't either. No, I would have I won't. I
Speaker 2: can already tell you right now.
Speaker 1: I guess I'd be a little surprised if Chicago won
Speaker 1: by that big a margin.
Speaker 2: But if I mean my point being that if he's
Speaker 2: on the on the megapod. One of our last two
Speaker 2: questions always what is the game you want? No part off?
Speaker 2: In other words, if you had to, if you had
Speaker 2: to bet a side in every game except one one,
Speaker 2: you got a free pass on. I can't. There'll be one.
Speaker 2: I like more for the answer to that question than
Speaker 2: this one. Yeah, Jets Vikings was worth waking up for.
Speaker 2: I don't know about this one next week. Yeah. And then,
Speaker 2: by the way, in that game was pretty it was
Speaker 2: a really like sort of bad footballise. Yes. Yeah.
Speaker 1: By the way, I posted this on Twitter earlier. Did
Speaker 1: you did you make it through the full marathon?
Speaker 2: Yes? I did start to absolute finish. I got in
Speaker 2: from San Francisco, after midnight Sunday morning. Wow, they kept
Speaker 2: us on the on the on the tarmac for twenty
Speaker 2: five minutes because the gate were supposed to go to
Speaker 2: that had tow away another plane. This happened. So I
Speaker 2: didn't get in until after one and then woke up
Speaker 2: for football. Yeah. Yeah, man, I.
Speaker 4: Didn't make it all the way.
Speaker 2: I could sleep. I could sleep today before baseball starts. Baby.
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Speaker 2: real nix Hey Gill and Kelly. I made it bell
Speaker 2: to bell yesterday. I'm fifty five years old, divorced, to
Speaker 2: live in a one bedroom apartment and had two pizzas
Speaker 2: in my fridge. What the hell else do I have
Speaker 2: to do? Get on you man, by the way, he says,
Speaker 2: I want to whopping twenty nine dollars yesterday. I guess
Speaker 2: that's better than losing twenty nine. Yes, it is Bob
Speaker 2: c Dash one thirty seven sounds like a statute on
Speaker 2: TNF on Thursday Night Football, Vitavea got a sack and
Speaker 2: army crawled, then mimicked a sniper rifle shot. I saw that, yep,
Speaker 2: he says, I don't care to be clear, but I
Speaker 2: was surprised that it wasn't flagged, since possible t shirt
Speaker 2: cannon touchdown celebrations are flagged hoops by hoots. In the
Speaker 2: Minnesota USC game Saturday, there was a sack. I saw this,
Speaker 2: and one of the Minnesota players mimicked putting his sword
Speaker 2: back in his hole ster, and the referee, through a
Speaker 2: flag in sternly announced a penalty for quote simulating brandishing
Speaker 2: a weapon.
Speaker 1: Oh so swords count too, I didn't know. I didn't
Speaker 1: see that one. Okay, so swords are part of the list.
Speaker 2: And Brian M wants to correct me. He says, the
Speaker 2: Patriots need to score themselves for the Patriots militia to
Speaker 2: fire the muskets. I don't think that disproves I think
Speaker 2: that disproves the point. But yeah, Jason Q points out
Speaker 2: breaking news, Ryan Williams becomes the youngest player ever to
Speaker 2: take an l versus Vandy. Very true. Wow, what's that unbelievable?
Speaker 2: Brian M. Thank you. Brian M also though for this,
Speaker 2: because he's he's uh, we asked out loud. Can someone
Speaker 2: sort of clarify what the rule is? And he is
Speaker 2: quote tweeting the actual rule of the NFL says the
Speaker 2: Giants field goal block was legal in regards to long
Speaker 2: snapper contact. Explanation is I did not know this. I
Speaker 2: would not have come up with this, he said. Pushing
Speaker 2: down alone is not a foul, and there was no
Speaker 2: forcible contact of the head and neck. See I didn't
Speaker 2: know that.
Speaker 1: Okay, So so I can push down a guy as
Speaker 1: long as I don't push him down.
Speaker 2: By the head or neck. Apparently you can contact him,
Speaker 2: but not not with a forcible push.
Speaker 1: I can I Can I push him down, not by
Speaker 1: the head or neck or with a forcible push? Can
Speaker 1: I push him down and allow my teammate kil Alexander
Speaker 1: to then leap him?
Speaker 2: I have no idea. I thought you could. I thought
Speaker 2: you couldn't touch the guy, which I already thought. I
Speaker 2: thought you couldn't touch him. But apparently you can, which
Speaker 2: I already.
Speaker 1: Thought was a silly rule because it wasn't that there
Speaker 1: was at least a rule for a couple of years, right,
Speaker 1: because you kept trying to see these guys leap the
Speaker 1: long snapper and they'd graze their toe on him.
Speaker 2: All right. Now, Brian's confusing his further because he says
Speaker 2: there was no foul because he started on the lot
Speaker 2: of scrimmage. So apparently you can't run either. Oh you
Speaker 2: could get the running start. Yeah, that's a part of Okay,
Speaker 2: Well we're talking about three different things now, so I
Speaker 2: still I'm still confusedous And then Brian Shaffer and I
Speaker 2: you know, listen, this is the whole point of this.
Speaker 2: What have we learned so far? He says, so three
Speaker 2: things for him, Niners are not really that good. Got
Speaker 2: really old quick. I'm gonna disagree with that, but I
Speaker 2: hear what you're saying. Two commanders might be really good.
Speaker 2: We're gonna find out this week, Brian, because they haven't
Speaker 2: played anybody yet. They've done great with everybody they've had
Speaker 2: to face. But now it's the Ravens. Let's find out
Speaker 2: about them and the three. I don't know who will
Speaker 2: win the Super Bowl. It's anyone's year besides the Titans, Panthers,
Speaker 2: and Jags. Yeah, it's probably Yeah. I think there's a
Speaker 2: lot of good teams in the NFL right now.
Speaker 1: I don't know how many great teams there are, though,
Speaker 1: I got is a fair statement overall.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna read a whole bunch more. But let's get
Speaker 2: back to the games themselves. What do you got all right?
Speaker 2: Early window Cardinals at Packers Cardinals. We talked about comfort
Speaker 2: behind win against the kickerless Niners, which really did matter
Speaker 2: in the end. Kyler nineteen of thirty for one to
Speaker 2: ninety five and defeat. He had that one touchdown, seven
Speaker 2: carries for eighty three and that touch on the ground, Carol, Cardinals,
Speaker 2: pardon ly, pardon me, plus two and turnovers in that game.
Speaker 2: They're at green Bay, man, I love green Bay. Green
Speaker 2: Bay is good at football. They took over at their
Speaker 2: own four after the teams traded punts early. They got
Speaker 2: to second and ten at their own forty five. Love
Speaker 2: to Jayden Reid for fifty three in between three defenders.
Speaker 2: Did you see that pass? Oh yeah, I could not
Speaker 2: believe that got home Jacobson from two when he reversed
Speaker 2: field seven to nothing green Bay. A little later, Rams
Speaker 2: set up at their own forty five thirteen play drive.
Speaker 2: They converted fourth and one at the green Bay thirty
Speaker 2: four along the way Kyra and in from one. It
Speaker 2: was tied at seven. A little later in the half,
Speaker 2: green Bay third and twelve with their own eight. Love
Speaker 2: trying to avoid a safety just throws it up for
Speaker 2: grabs horrible pick a four yard pick six for the
Speaker 2: Rams by Jaden mcculluf, thirteen to seven Rams. They missed
Speaker 2: the extra point, did Joshua Cardy It would be thirteen
Speaker 2: to ten Rams at the half. Then the second half
Speaker 2: happened and it was a heck of a ballgame. Ram
Speaker 2: second and six at the Green Bay twenty seven Kyra
Speaker 2: and hit by Lucas van Ness fumbles, Xavier McKinney recovers it.
Speaker 2: Xavier McKinney ballhawk, two plays in love to Tucker Kraft
Speaker 2: for sixty six. A lot of yack on that one touchdown,
Speaker 2: seventeen to thirteen, Green Bay eleven ten left in the third.
Speaker 2: Then Stafford got picked by McKinney because McKinney picks off
Speaker 2: everything returns at twenty eight yards. Green Bay set up
Speaker 2: at their own forty six seven play drive love to
Speaker 2: craft from seven out, twenty four to thirteen green Bay,
Speaker 2: late third quarter, we go to the force the fourth
Speaker 2: Rather it's twenty four to thirteen. The Rams started their
Speaker 2: own nine with six Z two to go, so they're
Speaker 2: pinned deep in their own territory. Down two scores, No
Speaker 2: problem for Matthew Stafford. Eleven plays ninety one yard Stafford
Speaker 2: DeMarcus Robinson from one out two point try fails twenty
Speaker 2: four to nineteen green Bay a two point try that
Speaker 2: was significant to some Kelly, if you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: three thirty to go, including myself. Then green Bay had
Speaker 2: a pun at the Rams get it back. They're down five.
Speaker 2: Started their own twenty nine with two fifty seven a
Speaker 2: go fourth and one at the green Bay forty six.
Speaker 2: Kyron for three on a second effort to the green
Speaker 2: Bay forty three, but a sack on second down set
Speaker 2: the Rams back. They get it to fourth and five
Speaker 2: at the green Bay thirty eight. Stafford under pressure incompleted
Speaker 2: tenant for Kolbe Parkinson ballgame. Packers win, Packers cover for
Speaker 2: those of us who backed the pack Jordan Love fifteen
Speaker 2: of twenty six for two twenty four. That one awful pick, though,
Speaker 2: was the one blemish. I will say green Bay minus
Speaker 2: four and a half at home against the Cardinals.
Speaker 1: Anywhere between it. We're in the dead area right now,
Speaker 1: anywhere between four and a half and five and a
Speaker 1: half out there.
Speaker 2: Don't know about you. I still still kind of like
Speaker 2: this Packer's side, But man, this that.
Speaker 1: Cardinals team's feisty. You just don't know where you're gonna
Speaker 1: get from that offense. And that offense can be good
Speaker 1: at times, I mean look real good at times.
Speaker 2: Keep in mind, they beat the they beat the Niners yesterday.
Speaker 2: They're good at times, and the Skins crushed them. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you know anyway, but I'm saying I understood what you're saying.
Speaker 2: I just think there.
Speaker 1: I think they're going to continue to be one of
Speaker 1: those tough teams to figure out this year, just because
Speaker 1: the defense is so bad and at times the offense
Speaker 1: can look so good.
Speaker 2: So it's probably gonna be a pass for me. But
Speaker 2: what's so funny is I loved so many games last week.
Speaker 2: I don't love nearly as many already. I mean, we
Speaker 2: have plenty to get to, but I don't love much
Speaker 2: so far. Niners kind of on the road at Seattle.
Speaker 2: I fired on five bets already. Okay, let's see what's
Speaker 2: what's next.
Speaker 1: The else was going to ask you about the Packers.
Speaker 1: I had a good day yesterday. The Packers added to
Speaker 1: the list, though. Of we talked about it all the time,
Speaker 1: but we don't recognize the luck factor.
Speaker 2: We should.
Speaker 1: Oh boy, did everything like a lot of things fell
Speaker 1: right for.
Speaker 2: Me yesterday, all plinko. I got the bounces in the
Speaker 2: Green Bay game. I got the bounces in the Houston's day. Yeah,
Speaker 2: Houston for me too. And absolutely that's the case. The
Speaker 2: difference between being four and oh and one in three
Speaker 2: heading into that is often that I had a four
Speaker 2: and one millions a week in both entries. It could
Speaker 2: easily be to it, of course, of course. Absolutely. Okay,
Speaker 2: let's keep rolling here. Colts at Titans, All right, Colts.
Speaker 2: We talked about Flacco was unbelievable thirty three of forty
Speaker 2: four for three point fifty nine, Alex Piers three unbelievable
Speaker 2: catches for one thirty four in a touchdown. And then
Speaker 2: there's Tennessee. Tennessee's gonna have the extra rest here. I
Speaker 2: split the difference between the pick him and the three.
Speaker 2: I said Tennessee might just one and a half. Talk
Speaker 2: about two teams. You have no idea what you're getting.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think I'm trying to see if there
Speaker 1: was movements.
Speaker 4: No, not really. We are Indy one one and.
Speaker 2: A half, Indy one one and a half. Okay, so
Speaker 2: oh so I just have the wrong favorite. Yeah, A
Speaker 2: favorite but we're talking a plats same thing. Yeah, ok,
Speaker 2: may this did this?
Speaker 1: Did jump in draft cacks early? That's what I was
Speaker 1: going to check on. You were aligned earlier.
Speaker 4: But we're over to Colts one one and a half now,
Speaker 4: all right?
Speaker 2: Does and make me race to the window or anything? Yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm staying.
Speaker 4: Far away from that one to sneak in when we're here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what do you got? Texans at Patriots pass? Let's
Speaker 2: do another one? Too much to talk Bucks?
Speaker 4: SATs?
Speaker 2: Okay, Bucks at Saints because Bucks, Bucks are on Bucks
Speaker 2: are going to be on extra rest whatever. Forgeting they
Speaker 2: played Thursday, extra rest for the Bucks. By the way,
Speaker 2: I said extra rest for the Titans. I didn't mean that,
Speaker 2: did I? When did the Titans play again? It's it's
Speaker 2: all on the Titans. Yeah, Titans run by Titans are
Speaker 2: run a bye. That's correct. Okay, So the Buccaneers playing
Speaker 2: on Thursdays, they'll have extra rest at New Orleans, who
Speaker 2: will have short rest because they play tonight as five
Speaker 2: and a half point dogs against the Chiefs Mayfield on
Speaker 2: Thursday against the Falcons. That Bucks loss, unbelievably to the
Speaker 2: Falcons was nineteen to twenty four for one eighty. The
Speaker 2: Bucks gave up five hundred and fifty total yards of
Speaker 2: the Falcons Saints unseen tonight. I just made it three
Speaker 2: because I didn't know what else to make. Two and
Speaker 2: a half, probably because of the rest situation.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Saints two and a half, although it's mainly all
Speaker 1: juiced two and a half up there too. Two and
Speaker 1: a half minus one twenty minus one fifteen is what
Speaker 1: I'm looking at.
Speaker 2: I good game.
Speaker 1: But in this NFC South, is I think going to
Speaker 1: be competitive with these three teams down the rest of
Speaker 1: the way. Do you feel like you see that biggest
Speaker 1: separation between any of them?
Speaker 2: U Carolina is still the bottom?
Speaker 1: I think no, No, I'm talking yeah, but the three
Speaker 1: other teams, I'm talking Tampa Bay, New Orleans, Sintlanta.
Speaker 2: No, none whatsoever. Yeah, good game. Not rushing to bed.
Speaker 2: I mean New Orleans ought to be the best, I
Speaker 2: guess I should say. But even when I say that,
Speaker 2: I'm like, no, maybe maybe that's not right. Maybe Falcons
Speaker 2: ought to be the best, and Tampa Bays is always there.
Speaker 2: So yeah, not exactly a fascinating division either. We'll get
Speaker 2: to that Houston New England game and more. Trying to
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Speaker 2: trying to look for value. So far, I think I
Speaker 2: like the Niners the best. Before it gets more games,
Speaker 2: we get tweets at beating the book, Steve Cohen at
Speaker 2: the Steve Cohen twenty one, not that Steve Cohen, or
Speaker 2: that's Steve Cohen. Gil. Last week you were worried you
Speaker 2: like so many favorites, Vikings, Commander's Packers. It worked out
Speaker 2: this week in a big way. Big question. Are you
Speaker 2: and Kelly going to Lenny Kravitz next week? Oh, Lenny
Speaker 2: Kravitz is in town? Kelly? Where's Lenny at? I don't know,
Speaker 2: but he's in town. I saw it on the screen
Speaker 2: as I was driving on the strip. Don't don't we
Speaker 2: kind of have to go to assess his place in
Speaker 2: the American No?
Speaker 1: No, not at all, because everybody's this, didn't we crack
Speaker 1: the code already?
Speaker 2: Everybody's gonna be.
Speaker 1: Everybody that's going to that concert's going to be so
Speaker 1: excited to go see Lenny Kravitz, and then they're gonna
Speaker 1: sit there for two hours and realize that they only
Speaker 1: know three songs.
Speaker 2: Steve, there's an answer. We're not gonna uh laws Vegas
Speaker 2: five to one four. Yeo, Gil, I need you to
Speaker 2: make a call to NBC and have them flex the
Speaker 2: Battle of the Beltwegh game in who the hell wants
Speaker 2: to see Bengels Giants for the love of football? Sheesh?
Speaker 2: He's right. Whenever you get a sheesh, you know someone serious? Yeah, yeah, sheesh?
Speaker 2: I Bobby Knuckles. I don't know if your teammate Gil
Speaker 2: Kelly is making that jump over the long snapper with
Speaker 2: those achilles. You ain't kidding. Wait have you heard your
Speaker 2: achilles before? Oh? Yeah, that doesn't come up. Well, let
Speaker 2: me tell you all about it. Joe C seven one four. Hey,
Speaker 2: I locked in Chicago earlier in the week as my
Speaker 2: survivor played because I didn't want to mess with a
Speaker 2: divisional game in Denver. Then I put in Seattle last
Speaker 2: minute because they surely won't lose the visiting Giants without
Speaker 2: singletary or neighbors. Right this sucks. It's nothing worse, especially
Speaker 2: now at this point because there I don't know if
Speaker 2: it's Circus Survivor he was in, but good goodness, Mike
Speaker 2: Stack says uh. On last night show, Mike Sommitch said
Speaker 2: that he had the Niners for Survivor. Felt bad to
Speaker 2: lose like that, and you have no kicker who left
Speaker 2: hurt brutal Matt Trudell. Thanks the tennis picks. Goffen got
Speaker 2: it done. So did jeff Chenko. Hitting a bunch of
Speaker 2: dogs here ang one of my favorite ways to spend
Speaker 2: the morning, Kelly, and you do a great job. Thank
Speaker 2: you so much. Michael Laifan, talking about our adjusted season
Speaker 2: win totals segment last week, says gil I know one
Speaker 2: of your favorite n season win totals is Jacksonville under
Speaker 2: But Doug Peterson was the offensive coordinator for the Chiefs
Speaker 2: in twenty fifteen when they started one to five and
Speaker 2: won the next ten. He knows how to get out
Speaker 2: of this mess. I think Jacksonville will come back.
Speaker 1: You might be right, Kelly interprets the tweets Jackson Michael
Speaker 1: not giving up yet, Gilk's home.
Speaker 2: Don't talk trash about this team, okay.
Speaker 1: Man if we're pulling for Doug Peterson o SI stats
Speaker 1: from twenty to fifteen.
Speaker 2: We're really we're really trying to dig for something here.
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what was great, though, Pittsburgh losing was
Speaker 2: great for all my Pittsburgh calls. I think I don't
Speaker 2: think they're getting there. Sorry, Mike Tom, We'll get to
Speaker 2: all that. What's next, all right? Texans at Patriots, Texas
Speaker 2: at Patriots, Texans beat the Bills. Let's see here, three
Speaker 2: to nothing, Buffaloes of Houston six play seventy yard drive
Speaker 2: camp Akers in from fifteen seven to three Buffalo three
Speaker 2: and out one place Stroud to Nico Collins for sixty
Speaker 2: seven Tuddy fourteen to three Houston. But Nico Collins would
Speaker 2: subsequently go to the tent, then to the locker room,
Speaker 2: and would not return with a hammy. I am so
Speaker 2: angry about this. He's been so fun to watch this year.
Speaker 2: When he scored my buddy Michael Montasano Cirka Booby Prize
Speaker 2: winner first year he has Nico Collins Offensive Player of
Speaker 2: the Year at north of one hundred to one, and
Speaker 2: as soon as that happened, he's like, oh my god,
Speaker 2: bang hamstring. Nothing can nothing lasts for anybody to just
Speaker 2: have moments of happiness in the National football anyway. Seventeen
Speaker 2: to three Houston at the half, and what same hamstring
Speaker 2: he had heard earlier in the season. I think so.
Speaker 2: Stats at the half two forty eight to one oh
Speaker 2: three advantage Houston. Josh Allen at this point was six
Speaker 2: of eighteen for fifty six, one carry for ten yards.
Speaker 2: Stroud thirteen of sixteen for duo five. He's pretty good.
Speaker 2: Can we cash those tickets yet, those ones where he
Speaker 2: was number one? Pick them the draft? No? Okay, twenty
Speaker 2: to three Houston. Buffalo then wakes up six play seventy yards,
Speaker 2: Alan to Kincaid for twenty six, sets up a cook
Speaker 2: in from five to twenty to ten. Then at Houston
Speaker 2: three and out, Buffalo five plays in fourth and five
Speaker 2: of the Houston forty nine Allen to Keon Coleman, who
Speaker 2: played exhibition football at FSU last year, for forty nine.
Speaker 2: Mostly Yak somehow tiptoes the sideline twenty to seventeen. We
Speaker 2: got ourselves a ball game.
Speaker 1: Maybe some angles of him going out, but you know,
Speaker 1: whatever the heel, I don't know if the he'll touched.
Speaker 2: Huh maybe maybe not Buffalo five plays in. Now, oh no,
Speaker 2: that was that one. Now it's twenty to seventeen. Houston
Speaker 2: another three and out Buffalo a punt Houston from their
Speaker 2: own twelve. This time they do matriculate, but second and
Speaker 2: seven of the Buffalo thirty three Stroud bad pass pick
Speaker 2: by Terrell Bernard eight oh six left in this ball game,
Speaker 2: Buffalo with the ball down three, Buffalo did have to punt.
Speaker 2: Allen slow to get up after his helmet hit the
Speaker 2: turf hard on a tackle. But with NFL protocol, apparently,
Speaker 2: if you're Josh Allen or anyone you know big time,
Speaker 2: you only have to sit out one play. That's apparently
Speaker 2: the rule. So ridiculous. Houston up three, second in ten
Speaker 2: at their own fourteen, four to twenty nine left. Stroud
Speaker 2: sacked by Dwayne Smoot, fumbles Dorian Williams. Buffalo picks it up.
Speaker 2: Set up at the Houston fifteen down three with four
Speaker 2: to twenty one left, Alan only out one played. Trubisky
Speaker 2: came in for one play. He's back in, can't advance
Speaker 2: the ball, bass thirty three yard field goal. We're tied
Speaker 2: at twenty with three eighteen left. All right, Houston again
Speaker 2: gets it into Buffalo territory. But with Buffalo out of timeouts,
Speaker 2: Houston elects to pass the football with forty four seconds
Speaker 2: left of the Buffalo thirty nine, and intentional grounding is
Speaker 2: called on Stroud and that takes Houston out of field
Speaker 2: goal range. Instead of just running the football, they try
Speaker 2: to pass it intentional grounding. Stroud couldn't understand it, but
Speaker 2: it was one of those things where he threw it
Speaker 2: in a spot and his receiver when he wasn't really
Speaker 2: intentional grounding in but it looks like intentional grounding. And
Speaker 2: they always call this now always, not always, but a lot. Okay,
Speaker 2: nothing is always, Kelly, there's no one hundred percents in
Speaker 2: this day.
Speaker 1: I mean this rule Laar takes me because it's because
Speaker 1: of situations like that.
Speaker 2: So they punted Buffalo's pin. Remember we're tied now. Buffalo
Speaker 2: has pinned at their own three with thirty two seconds
Speaker 2: left twenty to twenty. This sequence had Scott Hansen going
Speaker 2: ballistic on red zone. Incomplete, incomplete, incomplete, stop clock, stop clock,
Speaker 2: stop clock. Now here's the thing. Houston had all three timeouts,
Speaker 2: so to me, it wasn't I disagree with the fact
Speaker 2: that they passed being the issue. It was the kind
Speaker 2: of passes they were throwing, low percentage deep balls, Like
Speaker 2: what were they doing if you're going to pass at
Speaker 2: least like throw a screen in there or something like that.
Speaker 2: Because Houston did have the three timeouts anyway, right, So
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, like, what do you what are you
Speaker 2: doing chucking it the time?
Speaker 1: The timeouts somehow did have gotten lost in this conversation. Yeah, argument,
Speaker 1: And that's right, Like McDermott deserves a little bit of
Speaker 1: a break because of that, a little bit of a
Speaker 1: a little bit the one part, Okay, what you said
Speaker 1: is one thing. The other thing that I'll kind of
Speaker 1: push back on is I would have run it on
Speaker 1: first or second down, because what did you just see
Speaker 1: the Texans get?
Speaker 2: You gotta run it on one of them, you got it.
Speaker 1: You have to avoid the possibility of getting a hold
Speaker 1: in the end zone, a sack in the end zone,
Speaker 1: a safety ends is game.
Speaker 2: Agree, one hundred percent agree. But I'm but for the
Speaker 2: people who are just you know, generally saying, yeah, oh,
Speaker 2: you can't pass at all. I disagree with that. You
Speaker 2: can pass me too, just not the way you were passing.
Speaker 2: And by the way, who knows if Josh Allen was
Speaker 2: loopy at this point, I have no idea. It crashed
Speaker 2: his head on the ground and the second passer looked
Speaker 2: that way. So anyway, Houston gets the ball back at
Speaker 2: the Buffalo forty six with seven seconds to go. They
Speaker 2: gained five yards on a dump off to Ogan Bowalle
Speaker 2: Fairbarn fifty nine yard are good. Houston wins twenty three
Speaker 2: to twenty Stroud twenty eight to thirty eight. For three
Speaker 2: thirty one they outgained Buffalo Houston did four twenty five
Speaker 2: to two seventy six, despite being minus two and turnovers.
Speaker 2: Houston wins. They're at New England. Not much to say
Speaker 2: about this game. New England loses to Miami. New England
Speaker 2: was up seven to three after a Remandre Stevenson thirty
Speaker 2: three yard touchdown run. Subsequent drive in the first half
Speaker 2: eighth chan Can cussed he never returned. That led to
Speaker 2: a Sanders forty one yard field goal try with joinked
Speaker 2: off the post, no good. Still seven to three, New
Speaker 2: England had a three and out, but then Bryce Barrenger
Speaker 2: had a seventy yard punt. Jake Bailey's punt for the
Speaker 2: Dolphins was blocked by Brendan Schooler. New England was set
Speaker 2: up at the Miami twenty three. They had to settle
Speaker 2: for a sly thirty three yard field goal that was
Speaker 2: wide right anyway. Oh no. Miami then had another field
Speaker 2: goal to try to cut to cut into the seven
Speaker 2: to three lead later in the half. That was a
Speaker 2: botch snap that messed up the timing, so that didn't happen.
Speaker 2: It was seven to three at the half. This game
Speaker 2: was awful anyway, got the ten to nine. Miami had
Speaker 2: two field goals. New England had won and then Miami
Speaker 2: finally put it to gather. They're only down one point
Speaker 2: one point in the fourth quarter fifteen plays eighty yards.
Speaker 2: Alec Ingold then from three, hey, we have a relative
Speaker 2: here at at VSA No. We fifteen to ten. Miami
Speaker 2: two point try fails. New England got it to fourth
Speaker 2: and fifteen at the Miami seventeen after a false start
Speaker 2: with one minute left. It was fourth and ten at
Speaker 2: the twelve. A false start set them back five yards.
Speaker 2: By the way, they thought they had a touchdown two
Speaker 2: plays earlier. Perset to Jalen Polk, but it was properly
Speaker 2: reversed and then incomplete on the four down. They have
Speaker 2: all three time outs, so they did get the ball
Speaker 2: back at their own forty three to twenty nine seconds left.
Speaker 2: They got it to Miami thirty six, but perset to
Speaker 2: Henry was only for twenty five yards in the field
Speaker 2: to play cocky spiers. Miami wins fifteen to ten. Houston
Speaker 2: at Miami, I said, Houston by six Uston in New England,
Speaker 2: I mean Houston at Houston by six.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is seven pretty much everywhere. Six and a
Speaker 1: half here at Circa.
Speaker 2: I'm actually a minx and a half here at Circa.
Speaker 2: Anything below seven field kind of tempting. And that's where
Speaker 2: I'm at. That's where I'm at.
Speaker 1: But there are I mean, it's injuries, right, you still
Speaker 1: got mixing Damian Piers Nicocollins like I I'd like to
Speaker 1: know more about the injury information before betting this. Sure,
Speaker 1: I bet the six and a half has gone by
Speaker 1: that point.
Speaker 2: I still like one hour into this, I still like
Speaker 2: San Francisco the best, I think of all these in
Speaker 2: New England.
Speaker 1: I don't how do we get an award for Jacobe
Speaker 1: percent to do your job? War your award you're losing
Speaker 1: and your team's terrible. You're gonna be betted at some point.
Speaker 1: You're doing your job.
Speaker 2: Though there's worse work in this world. There is. We'll
Speaker 2: come back more guessing lines right here on a numbers game.
Speaker 2: The numbers told the story, and they always do. It's
Speaker 2: one of those idiots who believe in analytics.
Speaker 3: This is a numbers game with Gil Alexander.
Speaker 2: And Gone our number two, a numbers game at vis
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Speaker 2: It's Gil Alexander, It's my little buddy. Kelly. How you doing, low, Boddy,
Speaker 2: Kelly Biddley? What is that? Matt? Matt was so excited
Speaker 2: to say your name that he said, Bidley said, Kelly Bidley.
Speaker 2: We get tweets at beating the book. We gotta get
Speaker 2: some more guessing lines, but we get tweets. Jesse Welch,
Speaker 2: you know that it's Survivor talk on ang. When you
Speaker 2: hear Gilly say, I feel it buzzing in my thigh,
Speaker 2: it's very true. It's very very true. Oh and Nick
Speaker 2: G yes, Gil, Nick g says Gill, are we not
Speaker 2: going to talk about Eli shining once again on Saturday,
Speaker 2: hashtag Eli for Heisman. Uh, Eli Holstein, the great Eli
Speaker 2: Holstein for Pitt? Who I have at one thousand to
Speaker 2: one to win the Heisman and circa would not let
Speaker 2: me bet what I wanted to, right, but they still
Speaker 2: a good bet if it wins. Eli Holstein doing his thing.
Speaker 2: He Uh, let me just give you the stats. And
Speaker 2: in Pitt's win against North Carolina to bring the Panthers
Speaker 2: to five and oh on the season, holsting twenty five
Speaker 2: or forty two for three eighty one three touchdowns against
Speaker 2: one pick ten Carrey for seventy six in a touch
Speaker 2: al Right, Eli down to one hundred and fifty to
Speaker 2: one at DraftKings. What a what an anti semitic market
Speaker 2: that is? Have you conferred Eli? What do you mean? Oh? No, Eli, No,
Speaker 2: unlike Rehet's laugh at BYU, Eli has not owned it yet.
Speaker 2: Ah okay, Yeah, Ashton genty is your short shot.
Speaker 1: I was just gonna go look at it. Isn't the
Speaker 1: Heisman race? Like crazier right now?
Speaker 2: He said, plus two twenty five? Travis Hunter right behind
Speaker 2: him at three to one. Then you got cam Ward
Speaker 2: your guy at four to one. By the way, how
Speaker 2: lucky is Mike Guy? How lucky is Miamis? That was
Speaker 2: that wasn't targeting people? Please? Jaylen Monroe excot Jayleen Milroe,
Speaker 2: pardon me? Drops to eleven to one as Bama loses
Speaker 2: to Bandy. Let me just say this. Ashton Genty in
Speaker 2: our in our text exchange, wish Nev keeps saying to Felika,
Speaker 2: It's like, really, Ashton Genty can't win the Heisman and
Speaker 2: Felika's Adam and he says, no, no chance, and either
Speaker 2: can trash. They got it. They gotta win games for
Speaker 2: Travis Hunter to like, they have to have a spectacular season.
Speaker 2: I did grab so what did?
Speaker 1: I grabbed a Carson Beck ticket live during that Alabama
Speaker 1: game when it looked like they were going to come
Speaker 1: back and win.
Speaker 2: So I'm like twenty to one on him. It's all
Speaker 2: I've got. I have Eli at one thousand and one,
Speaker 2: I have I did get Georgia at five to one
Speaker 2: to win it all.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what we're I got a little better than
Speaker 1: that when we were talking about that with Phasik, right
Speaker 1: fun Friday, Yeah, all.
Speaker 2: Right, let's get some lines.
Speaker 4: Brown's and Eagles still in the early windows.
Speaker 2: Okay, ladies and gentlemen, I I'm just here to tell
Speaker 2: you that I don't know where the Browns suckitude starts
Speaker 2: and ends and where Washington's awesomeness starts and ends in
Speaker 2: this game. Yeah, thirty four to thirteen Skins. Frankie Louvo,
Speaker 2: by the way, all over it for Washington on defense,
Speaker 2: just a great free agent pickup. Cleveland started this game
Speaker 2: fourth and one at the Washington forty seven, down to
Speaker 2: form and no gain hit by Louvu. Stopped a couple
Speaker 2: of trades here. Washington with just their fifth punt of
Speaker 2: the season early in this game. Then Cleveland three and
Speaker 2: out Washington third and thirteen at their own thirty one.
Speaker 2: Daniels flushed right to McLaurin for sixty six the incomparable
Speaker 2: to the three oh I always did the three plays later.
Speaker 2: Replays later, Daniels picked by Jeremiah Wusu Corromoa at the one.
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe he picked it, but they withstood replay anyway,
Speaker 2: it was still scoreless. Washington gets the ball back because
Speaker 2: Cleveland goes three and out. The Cleveland Browns offense is
Speaker 2: the worst unit in football, and Deshaun what I was
Speaker 2: watching in this game as a guy who lived every
Speaker 2: play of RG three's rookie year in the twenty twelve
Speaker 2: Washington Redskins, and then RG three post injury. That game
Speaker 2: was Jayden Daniels was RG three pre injury. Deshaun Watson
Speaker 2: was RG three post injury. It was like you were
Speaker 2: looking at it before and after because the Shawn Watson performance,
Speaker 2: and this has been going on for weeks now. Whatever
Speaker 2: happened to RG three after the injury. The underrated part
Speaker 2: was not only the injuries, but he lost all mechanics,
Speaker 2: He lost all confidence. Deshaun Watson is unrecognizable as a
Speaker 2: football player anyway. That's stray QBR.
Speaker 1: I think through the four weeks so far, Deshaun Watson
Speaker 1: has two weeks with the lowest.
Speaker 2: QBR of the four he is, I mean a corroborate
Speaker 2: Shots had them the thirty second ranked team in DVOA
Speaker 2: and Drew Dinsick had him as the worst quarterback in
Speaker 2: the NFL, and they think they're both right.
Speaker 1: Mean, whilst you got a guy sitting on the sidelines
Speaker 1: with an absolute cannon that you just won't run trot
Speaker 1: out there because for whatever reason you feel like you
Speaker 1: have to have Deshaun Watson out there already paid him
Speaker 1: the Moneys.
Speaker 2: Excellent use of mean whilst meanwhilst. Washington gets a back
Speaker 2: set up at the Cleveland thirty four. They get to
Speaker 2: fourth and two at the Cleveland fourteen, Eckler for ten,
Speaker 2: then Robinson breaks the tackle in for four. Skins up
Speaker 2: seven to nothing. Late first quarter, Cleveland three and out,
Speaker 2: but they pin Washington at their own two. They have
Speaker 2: a three out Cleveland set up at the Washington forty
Speaker 2: four to start the second quarter, but they have to
Speaker 2: settle for Hopkins fifty one yarder after Watson was sacked
Speaker 2: by Frankie Louvu seven to three Washington first play next time,
Speaker 2: Washington got the ball Eckler for fifty seven. That sets
Speaker 2: up a cyber chip shot ten to three, Cleveland three
Speaker 2: and out. Watson sacked by Louvu and Jonathan Allen. Washington
Speaker 2: fourth and three at the Cleveland forty. Daniels avoids the rush,
Speaker 2: just glides thirty four yards. That's the word, by the way,
Speaker 2: just glides. Two plays later, Robinson in from one, seventeen
Speaker 2: to three Skins Cleveland three and out. Washington sacked by
Speaker 2: Bobby Watson. Pardon me, sacked by Bobby Wagner. Washington takes
Speaker 2: over at their own thirty eight, with one thirty five left.
Speaker 2: Five plays in Daniels Tsami Brown behind the defense thirty
Speaker 2: four to excuse me, twenty four to three, Skins at
Speaker 2: the half, Daniels eleven for twenty one for one sixty
Speaker 2: six of the half. Washington out gaining totally yards. Cleveland
Speaker 2: two eighty three to sixty eight. Is that good? One?
Speaker 2: Twenty six to fourteen on the ground. Third quarter Washington
Speaker 2: first play McLaurin hit by Ousu Corromoa fumbles the incomparable
Speaker 2: one fumbled recovered by Martin Emerson Junior. Cleveland set up
Speaker 2: at the Washington thirty. They get to the Washington two.
Speaker 2: Remember they're down twenty four to three. They get to
Speaker 2: the Washington two, false start, sack incomplete, and then on
Speaker 2: fourth Stefanski wants to go for it. Deshaun Watson walks
Speaker 2: off the field, delay of game. They have to settle
Speaker 2: for Hopkins thirty one yard field goal, twenty four to six.
Speaker 2: It's early third quarter. Stefanski is visibly frustrated.
Speaker 4: Still's quarterback, though, washing what's that stillis?
Speaker 2: Quarterback? Stand by him? Washington nine plays eighty yards, Daniels
Speaker 2: to McLaurin for twenty three, followed by Daniels himself for
Speaker 2: twenty three, eventually Jeremy Nichols in from three thirty one
Speaker 2: to six. You get the idea. Deshaun was sacked by Wagner.
Speaker 2: Later he fumbled Louvu recovers Louver's everywhere Washington later Daniels
Speaker 2: to Eckler for thirty three. That led to a cyberfield
Speaker 2: goal because McLaurin actually dropped a ball in the end
Speaker 2: zon which I didn't think was possible. That was shocking
Speaker 2: to me. I think that was possible. Perfect pass thirty
Speaker 2: four to six, garbage touchdown with Mariota in thirty four
Speaker 2: to thirteen. That's your final. Just a absolute blowout. And
Speaker 2: I will say this again about Washington when we get
Speaker 2: to them. But we will learn about Washington next week
Speaker 2: because they've beaten Cleveland, the Giants, the Cardinals, and the Bengals.
Speaker 2: We'll find out against the raven.
Speaker 1: And even like I brought this up last week, right,
Speaker 1: I thought this game was going to be a little
Speaker 1: bit more telling because this was one of the better
Speaker 1: defenses they had gone up again so far. But man
Speaker 1: like they they did what they need to do on
Speaker 1: the offensive side of the ball, and then the Cleveland eneugh to.
Speaker 2: Do just continued Cleveland. At Philly, I say, Philly minus seven,
Speaker 2: you are light.
Speaker 4: This one is surprising to me. This is Philly eight
Speaker 4: and a half at or nine.
Speaker 2: Everywhere. I think I was hoping my pick was right
Speaker 2: so I could bet Philly. And what is it again? Yeah,
Speaker 2: I can't.
Speaker 1: Even say teasers. I can't hit a teaser to save
Speaker 1: my life. I know, I know, man, I know all
Speaker 1: the long legs suck hit. I think I did hit
Speaker 1: two this weekend, but I lost another one.
Speaker 2: All right, what's next? All right? Next up, we have
Speaker 2: the command commanders at Ravens Commodores Jade and Daniels fourteen
Speaker 2: of twenty five for two thirty eight. You heard Aaron
Speaker 2: Shotts last week. He's a voter for these awards. He's like,
Speaker 2: this is the one award and I would if it
Speaker 2: ended now, I wouldn't even have to think about it.
Speaker 2: It's Jayden McLaurin four for one to twelve and that
Speaker 2: fumble loss. But they sacked to Shan seven times. Deshaun
Speaker 2: Watson was sacked seven times in this game. Two and
Speaker 2: a half by Frankieluvu and they outgained Cleveland four thirty
Speaker 2: four to two twelve. And then there's Baltimore. Baltimore beats Cincinnati.
Speaker 2: How I have no idea. They're up seven to nothing
Speaker 2: when Henry slipped but still got in the end zone
Speaker 2: early first quarter, Henry's one hundredth career touchdown. Wow. Cincinnati
Speaker 2: would come back ten play eighty six yard drive Burrow
Speaker 2: to Higgins from eleven, tied at seven. Early second quarter.
Speaker 2: Later Baltimore seven play, fifty one yard drive Lamarina Bateman
Speaker 2: from sixteen out fourteen to seven Baltimore. Cincinnati would have
Speaker 2: a three and out, but they'd pit in Baltimore at
Speaker 2: their own two on a Ryan wreck House sixty six
Speaker 2: yard punt. Next play, Henry tackled in the end zone
Speaker 2: by Sam Hubbard's safety. Fourteen to nine Baltimore. They'd have
Speaker 2: to uh a little later, trade punts, and then Cincinnati
Speaker 2: from their own twenty one with thirty four seconds left
Speaker 2: in the half. From their own twenty one, four plays
Speaker 2: Burrow to Chase from forty one Are you kidding? Fifteen
Speaker 2: to fourteen Cincinnati, by the way, on the two point try,
Speaker 2: Kyle Hamilton picked it in the end zone, then ran
Speaker 2: one hundred yards to the five. Kind of got hurt,
Speaker 2: nullified by a PI on Baltimore anyway, so they get
Speaker 2: the two point conversion in from the one on a
Speaker 2: Chase Brown run seventeen to fourteen at the half.
Speaker 4: Naddy, was he kind of hurt? I thought he was
Speaker 4: just exhausted.
Speaker 2: I don't know if he was hurt. He was fine afterwards,
Speaker 2: but it was like exhausted and he was like slowed
Speaker 2: again up and.
Speaker 1: I couldn't tell if he was doing the Did you
Speaker 1: think he was doing the slow down jog to try
Speaker 1: to like get you know, get the get the The
Speaker 1: guys tried to tackle him at a bad angle.
Speaker 2: No, I thought he was trying to set it up.
Speaker 2: And I was like, oh, no, he's just he's a gassed,
Speaker 2: he's exhausted. Seventeen to fourteen. Second half, Cincinnati twelve play
Speaker 2: seventy yards, Burrow to Yoshavas for thirty nine, the big
Speaker 2: chunk to Higgins from five out twenty four to fourteen bangles.
Speaker 2: Baltimore would come back four play seventy four yards. This
Speaker 2: was a track meet Lamar to Charlie Cohlar from fifty
Speaker 2: five the big one to likely from one for the
Speaker 2: score twenty four to twenty one. Cincinnati, not content with
Speaker 2: a three point lead, would go up ten again. Twelve
Speaker 2: play seventy yards Chase Brannon from four thirty one to
Speaker 2: twenty one. Early fourth quarter, Baltimore starts at their own
Speaker 2: eight to Andrews for twenty seven to start to drive
Speaker 2: to Colar from two out to end at thirty one
Speaker 2: to twenty eight nine ozho five left Cincinnati one play
Speaker 2: Burrow to Chase for seventy touchdown. Chase tenth sixty plus
Speaker 2: yard touchdown before his twenty fifth birthday. That's a record.
Speaker 2: He's good. Thirty eight to twenty eight Cincinnati eight to
Speaker 2: fifty four left in the fourth quarter. This is unbelievable.
Speaker 2: This game. Baltimore eleven play seventy yards. Lamar amazing play, scrambles,
Speaker 2: fends off defenders, finds likely in the end zone. If
Speaker 2: you just look at the box, sports six yard touchdown
Speaker 2: pass that's all thirty eight thirty five Cincinnati. Then Cincinnati
Speaker 2: would matriculate, but second in fifteen that the Baltimore thirty
Speaker 2: three with three five left, Burro picked by Marlon Humphrey.
Speaker 2: Baltimore got it into the field goal range. Tucker fifty
Speaker 2: six yards good. They would stop Cincinnati. Wou'd go to overtime.
Speaker 2: Baltimore wo win the toss. They would get it to
Speaker 2: the thirty nine. Lamar can't catch the snap right to him.
Speaker 2: He fumbles, recovered by Jermaine Pratt. Then Cincinnati set up
Speaker 2: at the Baltimore thirty eight run run run McPherson fifty
Speaker 2: three yard field goal try no good, bad snap, bad hold.
Speaker 2: Baltimore won play in a field goal range. They win it. Unbelievable,
Speaker 2: I will say Baltimore by five and a half No
Speaker 2: man's land against Washington six and a half coming back.
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Speaker 2: back to the game we just finished on. I said,
Speaker 2: Baltimore minus five and a half. You said it's a
Speaker 2: little more than that. What did you say six and
Speaker 2: a half? Slightly tempted to bet the DC Skins of
Speaker 2: this one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, problem, Personally, I love right where it's at, Gil,
Speaker 1: So I could skip this game because, yeah, I think
Speaker 1: if it was seven or more, I'd have to be
Speaker 1: looking at Washington.
Speaker 2: I just want to I just want to say the
Speaker 2: last sequence of that game again, right. So it goes
Speaker 2: to overtime Baltimore. They're matriculating and Lamar can't catch a
Speaker 2: snap that's right to him. He fumbles cover a Jermaine
Speaker 2: Pratt and Lamar is just beating himself up on the side.
Speaker 2: He's like, I can't believe we're gonna lose this way.
Speaker 2: And so Cincinnati set up at the Baltimore thirty eight.
Speaker 2: We were talking about the Sean McDermott thing where it
Speaker 2: was past pass pass from his own two, and Houston
Speaker 2: just needed one play of five yards and then Fairbaron
Speaker 2: kicks the fifty nine yarder and Houston beats Buffalo. Here, right,
Speaker 2: there's plenty of time left in overtime for twenty six,
Speaker 2: you know, just four and a half minutes left at
Speaker 2: the Baltimore thirty eight, about five minutes about halfway through,
Speaker 2: and they decide Cincinnati does to run it three times
Speaker 2: to again casually set up. Remember I said this in
Speaker 2: the Chiefs game, that no one was making enough of
Speaker 2: that game, and they won with a fifty one yard
Speaker 2: but kerfield Rohld. It's like just nonchalant, Well, we'll just
Speaker 2: set up a fifty one yarder right down the pipe,
Speaker 2: Chiefs one. This is the equivalent to that, right, this
Speaker 2: is the same thing except for bad snap, bad hold.
Speaker 2: Baltimore takes over Henry fifty one yards of the Cincinnati six,
Speaker 2: and then Baltimore wasted no time. They're like justin, get
Speaker 2: out there and get us out of here, twenty four
Speaker 2: yardfield where they win it. So I just you know
Speaker 2: that these long field goals, these kickers are making them
Speaker 2: at an unbelievable rate. But you can't be that notch.
Speaker 2: It's an interesting conversation.
Speaker 1: It is, right because it's kind of like it's it's
Speaker 1: kind of like the evolution of the three pointer in
Speaker 1: the NBA, right where how far do you want to
Speaker 1: go out to defend because guys are making that shot
Speaker 1: more and more and more, and how much do you
Speaker 1: how much how much field position do you really need
Speaker 1: to feel before you feel comfortable?
Speaker 4: And clearly a lot of these teams just think that
Speaker 4: has changed quite a bit here over the past years.
Speaker 2: I do think again people wanted to kill Sean McDermott.
Speaker 2: I just want to point out that it wasn't that
Speaker 2: he passed, it was the type of pass. So people
Speaker 2: are I think a little bit unfairly criticizing him. And
Speaker 2: also here with Zach Taylor, a lot of this is
Speaker 2: results based. If you get eight yards on the three
Speaker 2: run on the three carries McPherson is usually money, the
Speaker 2: snap in the hold are usually money. So if it
Speaker 2: had worked out, nobody would have said a word. I
Speaker 2: don't know, it's it didn't work out for either of them.
Speaker 2: I'm not as outraged as others by both of them.
Speaker 2: Believe me, there were other times I am outraged as
Speaker 2: people know, but this isn't one of them.
Speaker 1: We were talking about off the air. I still think
Speaker 1: one of the most incredible plays I saw yesterday was
Speaker 1: that kick, getting even as close as it did, considering
Speaker 1: what the what the hold and snap situation.
Speaker 2: The snap came up to the holders like right, shoulder right,
Speaker 2: he had to try to put it down quick, and
Speaker 2: the ball and the ball and the fact that he
Speaker 2: got it up at all.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was still laying horizontal on the ground he
Speaker 1: kicked out.
Speaker 2: I was assuming, yeah, something. It was kind it was
Speaker 2: kind of what's that all?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: Late window? We begin Chargers at Broncos. What's our breakdown
Speaker 2: of early and late four or five Eastern?
Speaker 1: So how many games we've got four in the late window?
Speaker 2: Six six early window? And then and then the oh,
Speaker 2: that's right because we have the London game. Okay, Chargers
Speaker 2: on the uh with the extra rest here at Denver,
Speaker 2: Denver beats the Raiders. People are telling me, you got
Speaker 2: to talk to antoniop here something like, yeah, we're get
Speaker 2: up the courage. Uh see that Vegas fourth play Minshee
Speaker 2: to Bowers from fifty seven touchdown, Raiders up seven to nothing.
Speaker 2: Gotta tell you end you got that much, it would
Speaker 2: be ten to three Raiders, and then after an a
Speaker 2: mirror Abdulla forty yard run to start the drive, they
Speaker 2: get it to first and goal with the Denver five.
Speaker 2: They're up seven. They're about to go up fourteen Kelly,
Speaker 2: except for not Minshew sort of air mails it picked
Speaker 2: by Sir Tan Junior one hundred yards of the house.
Speaker 2: Ten to ten. What a weird day this was yesterday.
Speaker 2: Two blocked field goals returned for touchdowns. We have like
Speaker 2: two one hundred yard plays. It was just such a weird,
Speaker 2: a weird day of football. Anyway, it ends up ten
Speaker 2: to ten at that point, and late in the half
Speaker 2: Denver from their own thirty three. There was a lot
Speaker 2: of this too, from their own thirty three. With twenty
Speaker 2: seven seconds to go, they get it into field goal range,
Speaker 2: LUTs misses, but a fifteen yard leverage call. There's the
Speaker 2: leverage call gives them a reprieve forty four yard try
Speaker 2: got thirteen ten Denver at the half uh they trade
Speaker 2: three and ounce or after a Denver three an out anyway,
Speaker 2: then Vegas punts Marvin Mims Junior thirty eight yard pun return.
Speaker 2: How many times does Marvin Mims junior come up big,
Speaker 2: sets up Denver at the fifty six place. Nicks that
Speaker 2: Julia mcgloughlin in from four Tony to ten Denver a
Speaker 2: little more than halfway through the third quarter. And then
Speaker 2: the blowout was on Vegas third and eleven at their
Speaker 2: own forty Minshee picked by Riley Moss. Denver would punt
Speaker 2: but Nix. Oh. And then on the sideline you see
Speaker 2: Nicks going off on Peyton telling him what he thought
Speaker 2: about him.
Speaker 1: Oh, I love that moment. That was interesting. Here's the transcript. Hey,
Speaker 1: you know what, You're actually not right all the time?
Speaker 1: Shut up, you scab bo. Though, man, you don't usually
Speaker 1: see that from the room.
Speaker 2: I loved it. I was like, shut up, and I
Speaker 2: think Peyton finally got the message, like you shut up.
Speaker 2: Maybe somethings are your fault. Sean Payton god Denver seven
Speaker 2: plays fifty seven yards, Nicks in from one. He does
Speaker 2: the breeves, the breeze wave over the goal line, twenty
Speaker 2: seven to ten Denver early fourth quarter. Then they put
Speaker 2: in aid and O'Connell first pass pick by Certan got
Speaker 2: quarterback problems. Yeah, that's Cirtan junior. By the way, his
Speaker 2: dad his dad was great too. Denver set up at
Speaker 2: the Vegas forty nine four plays Knicks to Reynolds from
Speaker 2: nine out thirty four to ten. It would end thirty
Speaker 2: four to eighteen. Denver crushing the Raiders, who look terrible,
Speaker 2: I said, Denver minus one and a half here hosting
Speaker 2: the Chargers. This is you are on the wrong side.
Speaker 2: This is interesting.
Speaker 1: This is Chargers two and a half and going up
Speaker 1: DraftKings has a Chargers three right now?
Speaker 2: Wow? No respect? Well, I mean beating the Raiders does
Speaker 2: does an illicit respect? It's a good I mean it's
Speaker 2: a I don't know that Chargers would be three point
Speaker 2: favorites on the road here, I don't know. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: don't know about that either. What did that close yesterday?
Speaker 2: What did the Broncos Raiders close yesterday? Broncos three? Yeah,
Speaker 2: I think so.
Speaker 1: So you're talking about a six point difference between the
Speaker 1: between Raiders and Chargers.
Speaker 2: Interesting, I mean Chargers.
Speaker 4: Coming off a bye.
Speaker 2: I'm not betting and I'm just I'm.
Speaker 1: Just laying I'm just saying the same. I come on, Broncos.
Speaker 1: I mean, I've already learned the lesson. I feel like
Speaker 1: the hard way this year They're gonna be a very
Speaker 1: tough team. I think, I think this entire season to
Speaker 1: bet on to we're against because how much do you
Speaker 1: trust bo Nixon that in the offense if you're betting
Speaker 1: on them, but you're betting against him. They got one
Speaker 1: of the better defenses in the league. I think they've
Speaker 1: shown that much.
Speaker 2: Tough one.
Speaker 1: Next, all right, next up four O five Eastern Steelers
Speaker 1: at Raiders.
Speaker 2: Raiders, we just talked about Minshew twelve with seventeen for
Speaker 2: one to thirty seven, O'Connell ten of twenty for ninety four,
Speaker 2: Bowers eight for ninety seven in a touchdown, but they
Speaker 2: were minus three and turnovers Pittsburgh last night? Did you
Speaker 2: see this delayed by lightning? So was it? It was
Speaker 2: just it just couldn't The night wouldn't end. Dallas got
Speaker 2: an Aubrey fifty five yardfield goal to go three to nothing.
Speaker 2: Boswell would match it with a forty one yard It
Speaker 2: was three to three Dallas three. Now Pittsburgh punts after
Speaker 2: McCarthy challenges of fumble recovery because you know, fumble recoveries
Speaker 2: always get reversed. What do you doing, McCarthy idea? It
Speaker 2: was gonna be third and twenty four anyway, which makes
Speaker 2: it even more comical. Anyway doesn't get doesn't get reversed.
Speaker 2: Dallas would get to third and six in a three
Speaker 2: to three game at the Pittsburgh eleven DAK sacked by t. J.
Speaker 2: Watt and Nick Herbig fumbles. Herbig recovers. That's how the
Speaker 2: first quarter would end. Then in the second quarter, Aubrey
Speaker 2: would add a field goal to make it six to three.
Speaker 2: Then Dallas from their own fifteen to three to zero
Speaker 2: five left in the half, they get to second and
Speaker 2: four of the Pittsburgh fifteen DAK picked by Dante Jackson.
Speaker 2: That's how the half would end two two to eighty
Speaker 2: nine in total. The yards of the half in favor
Speaker 2: of Dallas. Third quarter fields absolutely destroyed on the first
Speaker 2: play from skim from scrimmage by Tyres by Tyrus Wheat.
Speaker 2: Did you see that? Oh my god, roughing the passer.
Speaker 2: I don't know how he was Upright after that, two
Speaker 2: plays later, Kyle Allen in to Frar Moo for nineteen.
Speaker 2: Fields back in four plays later to Connor Heywood from
Speaker 2: sixty nine, and the Steelers somehow are leading this football
Speaker 2: game ten to six. Then Dallas set up in large
Speaker 2: part by a Dak to Camante Turpin thirty four yard game.
Speaker 2: They had a field goal, but no, they try a
Speaker 2: field goal blocked by Isaiah Laudermilk. So the special teams
Speaker 2: all through the league yesterday was it was crazy. Then
Speaker 2: Dallas sixteen play ninety yard drive. The next time they
Speaker 2: get it back Dack to Dowdell from twenty two out
Speaker 2: and Dallas retakes the lead thirteen to ten. Early fourth
Speaker 2: quarter Pittsburgh three now Dallas first and tend their own
Speaker 2: twenty seven. Dak picked deep by Joey Porter Junior Dak
Speaker 2: just turning the ball over left and right. Pittsburgh twelve
Speaker 2: play sixty three yard drive fields to Friarmouth's shovel from six,
Speaker 2: and the Steelers are about to magic beans their most
Speaker 2: magic Bean win ever, seventeen to thirteen. With four to
Speaker 2: fifty six left, Dallas gets it to second goal at
Speaker 2: the Pittsburgh one. Dowdell gets the ball poked out on
Speaker 2: the leap into the end zone or the would be
Speaker 2: leap into the end zone by Landon Roberts. Dak recovers
Speaker 2: it at the four fourth and goal with twenty six
Speaker 2: seconds left, Dact to Jalen Tolbert touchdown and the Cowboys
Speaker 2: win it on a fifteen play seventy yard drive that
Speaker 2: ends that way with the Cowboys strangely calling time out
Speaker 2: with fifty two seconds left and then like Tomlin not
Speaker 2: calling time out instead of ten seconds running off was
Speaker 2: just there. It was just like a duel of stupidity.
Speaker 2: Take those magic beats, Tomlin. But honestly, if Pittsburgh had
Speaker 2: won that game, that would have been the most magic
Speaker 2: Bean win ever. They just got completely crushed in the
Speaker 2: box score Pittsburgh minus four at the Raiders Steelers three
Speaker 2: right now, that's how bad the Raiders are. I'm intrigued
Speaker 2: by it. By who you wis? Oh yeah, me too? Three.
Speaker 2: I am very intrigued coming back Numbers game on the
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Speaker 2: Circa we get tweets that baiting the book, I was appreciated.
Speaker 2: New York mess sixteen, Gil. What do you think of
Speaker 2: Miami kicking the field goal down ten to six on
Speaker 2: fourth and two from the New England twenty nine with
Speaker 2: thirty five seconds left in the third quarter. I'll be
Speaker 2: honest with you, I did not hate it because at
Speaker 2: that point points were at that point, points were at
Speaker 2: a premium and so yeah, I didn't I didn't really
Speaker 2: minded it all worked out for Miami. But I hear
Speaker 2: your point, but it didn't bother me.
Speaker 4: I would have gone for it. But I get it.
Speaker 2: I get it. I mean it's Huntley, you're struggling Jason Sanders.
Speaker 2: Usually money, but again usually you're you're snap in your
Speaker 2: hold and not getting it blocked his money. But I
Speaker 2: didn't mind it at the time. Roade King, Kevin Ryan Kill,
Speaker 2: gil My coaching, What were you thinking? Award goes to
Speaker 2: Zach Taylor for his end of a game conservative play
Speaker 2: calling when all you're up and down, when all you
Speaker 2: were doing, when all you're up and down the field
Speaker 2: against the Ravens, I think it's I don't know about
Speaker 2: the Uh what he's trying to say is that all
Speaker 2: you're going up and down against all you're doing is
Speaker 2: going up and down against Ravens. Yeah, I mean I
Speaker 2: pointed it out. I I mean, people are going crazy
Speaker 2: on it. But if he if he makes that, no
Speaker 2: one says a bad word about it. I I think
Speaker 2: he could have. He absolutely could have tried a little more.
Speaker 2: And like I said, and I'm being consistent from week
Speaker 2: to week. The fact that you're settling for these long
Speaker 2: field goals, these fifty plus yardfield goals, is the comedy
Speaker 2: of the year. Like that's the big headline. Like if
Speaker 2: you had said to us before the season, and guess what,
Speaker 2: teams in multiple games are going to settle confidently for
Speaker 2: fifty plus yardfield goals. But he left himself open to
Speaker 2: the bad snap in the bad hole, and that's what happened.
Speaker 1: I think that one is very These are very resolvets
Speaker 1: oriented when we have a problem with something like that.
Speaker 2: But I get it.
Speaker 1: If you wanted to Burrow was so good, he's been
Speaker 1: so good, you're taking the ball out of his hands.
Speaker 2: I get it. I said it when that Chiefs game, though,
Speaker 2: So I'm just being consistent, Like these teams are way
Speaker 2: too nonchalant t for three. Has anyone gone from coach
Speaker 2: of the year to fired in the calendar year? Stefanski's
Speaker 2: reluctance to sit Watson is ridiculous. The Deshaun Watson thing
Speaker 2: is among the most fascinating things in the NFL. This
Speaker 2: guy beat alabamail when Alabama's defense was the greatest thing
Speaker 2: ever in a national championship game, got to Houston, Texas
Speaker 2: the playoffs, and then stuff happened with DeShawn Watson and
Speaker 2: he missed. He missed tons of football because of his
Speaker 2: own doing off the field, and then also some injuries,
Speaker 2: and he has come back an unrecognizable player.
Speaker 1: I don't know that I've ever done as big of
Speaker 1: a one to eighty on a football player as I
Speaker 1: have Deshaun Watson. I thought he was awesome at his
Speaker 1: height and was going to be incredible for years to come,
Speaker 1: and now I don't even know how he played right.
Speaker 2: Two hundred and thirty million dollars Garone teed, it's guaranteed,
Speaker 2: you already paid the guy. Whatever Garone teed, you gotta
Speaker 2: take him out the Josh Gilly. Have you bet the
Speaker 2: Commanders to win the division? Yet? My only Washington bet
Speaker 2: it was before the season. I bet Jayden Daniels to
Speaker 2: win Rookie of the Year at seven to one, So
Speaker 2: I use that as a proxy. But I will tell
Speaker 2: you this, if they look good against Baltimore this week,
Speaker 2: that's even in defeat, right, the ultimate outcome for me
Speaker 2: would be, oh, they still look good even though they lost. Obviously,
Speaker 2: if they win, then that number is going to be gone.
Speaker 2: But no, to answer your question, I have not because
Speaker 2: I'm not again as a representative of all Washington here
Speaker 2: we are all super duper cautious about this team. I say, okay,
Speaker 2: are we Are we allowed to embrace this yet? This
Speaker 2: week we'll learn a lot Buddhist man. Finally he is.
Speaker 2: Here's what I took out of the weekend. Teams who
Speaker 2: had their starting kicker go down or zero to two
Speaker 2: with both losses three or under. These teams better find
Speaker 2: punters who can place a kick, who can place kick two,
Speaker 2: as it's costing them games. Andy Reid way ahead of
Speaker 2: the curve, as usual with Matta Rise of punting. This
Speaker 2: this brought up this is why we did the whole
Speaker 2: Matt Brown, Betty, this is where it came from. Bett.
Speaker 2: This is Matt Brown's biggest problem with football. He couldn't
Speaker 2: believe we were watching a college football game. Some team
Speaker 2: lost their kicker and they couldn't roll out the punter
Speaker 2: to kick a chip shot field goal. And Matt was incredulous.
Speaker 2: He's like, I can do that well, and it's.
Speaker 1: His point was even beyond that and intensified this summer
Speaker 1: when we were hearing about the well, you know, we
Speaker 1: never knew it was called the dynamic kickoff till week one,
Speaker 1: you know, but we were hearing about the news. Did
Speaker 1: you hear that term anymore about?
Speaker 2: No, not yet.
Speaker 1: Good point, but we were hearing about the new kickoff
Speaker 1: and how many, how many how many reporters teams whatever,
Speaker 1: we're speculating about using position players because they were gonna
Speaker 1: have to go make the tackle afterward. So they're that
Speaker 1: confident in other guy's making a kickoff. But nobody can
Speaker 1: make a field goal, nobody, not anybody on the roster.
Speaker 2: Let's skip through the rest of these.
Speaker 1: What you got Lions of Cowboys four twenty five Eastern.
Speaker 2: Cowboys played last night Detroit extra rest here Detroit minus
Speaker 2: three and a half on the road. It is three.
Speaker 2: I bet it's three. Yeah. Those are the last two games,
Speaker 2: Detroit at Dallas and Pittsburgh at the Raiders. And neither
Speaker 2: of us are big fans of Pittsburgh, but the Raiders
Speaker 2: are so god awful. Both of those feel like road
Speaker 2: favorites to play. What has ever gone wrong playing road favorites? Yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm stacking them up this week's back.
Speaker 1: I'm not feeling great about it, but I haven't bet
Speaker 1: the Steelers yet.
Speaker 4: We haven't really seen any movement on that one.
Speaker 1: This morning, Lions is it's it's three and a half
Speaker 1: now at draft cames threes up to minus won twenty
Speaker 1: most places.
Speaker 2: Oh give me that three. Yeah, I might have to
Speaker 2: get in quick.
Speaker 1: Next.
Speaker 2: Falcons at Panthers for twenty five Cousins, remember that way
Speaker 2: on Thursday forty two of fifty eight. Falcons franchise record
Speaker 2: five hundred nine yards, four touchdowns, one pick for Kirk Cousins,
Speaker 2: five hundred and fifty total yards of offense Carolina yesterday
Speaker 2: and defeat Dalton eighteen of twenty eight for one thirty six.
Speaker 2: They were minus three in turnovers Atlanta. I put in
Speaker 2: no man's land minus five and a half at Carolina.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is five and a half. There is one
Speaker 1: six out there now bet on side and total for me.
Speaker 1: I laid five with Falcons last yesterday and over forty eight.
Speaker 2: I legit like three three point road favorites San Francisco,
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh and Detroit. Oh boy, next, all right? Sunday night
Speaker 2: Bengals at the Giants. Bengals lose to the Ravens. Giants
Speaker 2: beat the Seahawks we talked about both of those. Burrow
Speaker 2: thirty of thirty nine for three to ninety two with
Speaker 2: five touchdowns and one pick in defeat Chase ten for
Speaker 2: one to ninety three and two touchdowns. Daniel Jones twenty
Speaker 2: three of thirty four for two to fifty seven against Seattle,
Speaker 2: two touchdowns, no picks, eleven carries for thirty eight, and
Speaker 2: they may have found something entire. I roat Tracy Junior
Speaker 2: eighteen carries for one twenty nine. By the way, Slayton
Speaker 2: eight for one twenty two in a touchdown. They sacked
Speaker 2: a Geno seven times, Dexter Lawrence with three of them. Oh, no,
Speaker 2: Cincinnati minus three and a half on the road, Ding, Ding, Dane,
Speaker 2: you're all, oh that one is three and a half. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 2: all right, next.
Speaker 4: Which I don't think I wanted anything to do with
Speaker 4: that game, though.
Speaker 1: I actually think that might be more of an entertaining
Speaker 1: watch than I'm not gonna play that.
Speaker 4: Bill's at Jets is your Monday nighter?
Speaker 2: All right? But we did not get to this one game,
Speaker 2: so Buffalo, we said, lost to Houston. Josh Allen nine
Speaker 2: of thirty He only completed nine forward passes for one
Speaker 2: thirty one. They were outgained by Houston four twenty five
Speaker 2: to two seventy six. Again, they were plus two and turnovers.
Speaker 2: Now we're Buffalo, Okay, the Jets. We didn't talk about
Speaker 2: this the London game. The Jets lose to Minnesota in
Speaker 2: a game that was very sleepy. I didn't think it
Speaker 2: was a very good football game. Minnesota was up three
Speaker 2: to nothing. Later in the first quarter. Yeah, late first quarter,
Speaker 2: third and six at the Minnesota thirty eight for the Jets.
Speaker 2: Rogers picked by Andrew Van Ginkel sixty three yards to
Speaker 2: the hiszy ten to nothing Minnesota two eighteen left in
Speaker 2: the first quarter. Next time, then the team's traded picks. No, no,
Speaker 2: they didn't, they traded excuse me. Rogers then was picked
Speaker 2: by Cameron by them, the first time in his career
Speaker 2: that he's had two picks in the first quarter. Then
Speaker 2: the teams traded turnovers on downs in the opposing team's territory.
Speaker 2: Minnesota fourth and two of the Jets thirty four. Darnold incomplete,
Speaker 2: Jets fourth and two at the Minnesota twenty six. Breyllen
Speaker 2: Allen stopped for no gain by Dallas Turner. So Minnesota
Speaker 2: is still up fourteen to nothing. They make it seventeen
Speaker 2: to nothing on a drive helped along by two pis
Speaker 2: in a defensive hold. They were flagging the Jets for everything.
Speaker 2: They could not stop. Justin Jefferson, they were getting flagged.
Speaker 2: It was a flag fest. CJ. Hammond from two pardon me?
Speaker 2: That made it seventeen to nothing. It was ten to nothing,
Speaker 2: made it seventeen to nothing. Then Minnesota with a double
Speaker 2: dip chance up seventeen to nothing. You're like, this game's
Speaker 2: a blowout. This is going to be a destruction. But
Speaker 2: they get stopped three and out in their own territory,
Speaker 2: and then Xavier Gibson returned the Ryan right punt thirty
Speaker 2: yards would set up the Jets of the Minnesota thirty
Speaker 2: one and on third and ten at the fourteen Rogers
Speaker 2: de Lazard touchdown. Seventeen to seven Minnesota at the half,
Speaker 2: Maybe we have a ballgame here. Then in the third quarter,
Speaker 2: the Jets pin at their own two four and out
Speaker 2: Rogers left leg wrenched under the defender, but a roughing
Speaker 2: the kicker on the ensuing punt that we never saw
Speaker 2: a replay of till later prolong the drive. I was like,
Speaker 2: show the replay. How do we know that's roughing? I
Speaker 2: got the same thing. Yeah.
Speaker 1: The announces we're talking about too. It's like you'll be
Speaker 1: five or fifteen here, and I was like, can you
Speaker 1: show it?
Speaker 2: They showed it at the end of the drive, which
Speaker 2: was which ended up being a Zerolin thirty two yard
Speaker 2: field goal. So that cut it to seventeen to ten.
Speaker 2: Closing stages of the third quarter, it got to I
Speaker 2: to ten Minnesota and then Minnesota third and fifteen at
Speaker 2: their own twelve Darnold airmail to pass, Brandon Eckles picks it.
Speaker 2: Jets set up at Minnesota forty two with nine to
Speaker 2: forty seven left. Rogers to Wilson one yard touchdown pass.
Speaker 2: It's twenty to seventeen Vikings with six oh four left,
Speaker 2: they'd get a field goal from record twenty three to seventeen.
Speaker 2: Longest play on that drive at twenty five yard pass
Speaker 2: to Jefferson Minnesota, snapman Minnesota. By the way, this is
Speaker 2: also like attention to details. They were snapping the ball
Speaker 2: with twenty four seconds left on the play clock with
Speaker 2: a running game clock up up three, Like what are
Speaker 2: you doing? Yeah, so they're up six. The Jets then
Speaker 2: get it to the Minnesota forty seven at the two
Speaker 2: minute warning. They get it to the Minnesota twenty six,
Speaker 2: third and ten with forty nine seconds to go, they're
Speaker 2: down six Rogers picked by Stefan Gilmour. What a catch
Speaker 2: would have would have been a PI. They would have
Speaker 2: gotten flagged, but the receiver, which I believe was was
Speaker 2: Mike Williams, didn't turn his head. There's a shot of
Speaker 2: it right there to say, Buffalo Bill's fans are gonna
Speaker 2: like me for this guest. Bill's minus three on the
Speaker 2: road at the Jets.
Speaker 1: Okay, and has moved to that that number, and it
Speaker 1: opened two and a half. I am in on Buffalo
Speaker 1: two and a half. But there's only one or two
Speaker 1: of those left out there.
Speaker 2: See, this is the problem with doing this show is
Speaker 2: that I would have bet that. No, I can't bet
Speaker 2: that anymore. Nothing road favorite for me. Though the Jets
Speaker 2: are bad, we'll talk about them and we'll talk baseball
Speaker 2: on the other side. Next Numbers game on the Sports
Speaker 2: Vetting Network. Don't forget the top of the hour. Right
Speaker 2: after a Numbers game, Money Moves with Stormy Bond a
Speaker 2: Tony as always on Monday, Stormy's got Jeff Schwartz on
Speaker 2: the program with her that's from noon to two Eastern,
Speaker 2: followed by prop points with John Hanson, and then Make
Speaker 2: It Rain with Adam Shine Visas these sports betting network
Speaker 2: we get tweets at beating the book. This is from
Speaker 2: James Moran, who says is Deshaun Watson a better NFL
Speaker 2: quarterback or a better person? People got jokes, no comment,
Speaker 2: good tweet, no comments. J Wateringhole, speaking about good tweet,
Speaker 2: no comment, he said Deshaun's issues are obvious, he's all
Speaker 2: backed up. Only saving him is a trade to Patriots.
Speaker 2: I'm not reading the rest of that three Jack Hey, Gil.
Speaker 2: I grabbed plus seven fifty on the Skins for the ease,
Speaker 2: not based on how good they've been, but with how
Speaker 2: unimpressed I am with the rest of the division. Yeah man, yeah,
Speaker 2: and Kevin Ryan joking gil. Aaron Rodgers on local New
Speaker 2: York radio this morning, issued these five letters panic PN.
Speaker 2: I see I think the Jets are bad. I was
Speaker 2: super wrong about the Jets. I think Aaron Rodgers, and
Speaker 2: again this has nothing to do with the Achilles. I
Speaker 2: just think he's old and I think he looks like
Speaker 2: he looked his last year in green Bay, which is
Speaker 2: not very good. There is no chemistry with any wide
Speaker 2: receiver besides Lazard. They should be on the phone this
Speaker 2: morning with DeVante Adams and they should have it signed
Speaker 2: by noon.
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, youill, honestly, that's the only thing
Speaker 1: I'm kind of worried about with my Buffalo bet because
Speaker 1: I think that like it.
Speaker 4: Should happen, that should happen.
Speaker 1: Whatever the Raiders are asking for, overpay, overpay New York.
Speaker 2: And Bills fans when they were three and zero. You know,
Speaker 2: I think I'm getting proven a little right here. As
Speaker 2: as this goes on, I still think the Bills are
Speaker 2: really good. The Bills are the best team in that division,
Speaker 2: for sure. They have been right at three and two,
Speaker 2: so I don't think there's any question about that. The
Speaker 2: Jets just look and they and you know what's worse
Speaker 2: than them being bad, they're boring. Well okay, so and
Speaker 2: that's the real crime. The Buffalo thing.
Speaker 1: Real quick, right, we taught we were all everybody was
Speaker 1: real high on them the first three weeks.
Speaker 2: You know, me, I'm nobody else a bigger Josh Allen
Speaker 2: fan than me. I wasn't going crazy then.
Speaker 1: I thought they were playing a little over their skis,
Speaker 1: but like they just played two of the best teams
Speaker 1: in the AFC. I don't think it's much to punish
Speaker 1: this team for what happened against it. Well, you know,
Speaker 1: besides maybe some of the decisions down the.
Speaker 2: Stretch last week.
Speaker 1: But this Jets, like you're talking about, I mean it
Speaker 1: is I don't even know what's going on because the
Speaker 1: offensive line must look so terrible to the coaches in
Speaker 1: practice that they don't want to try to even establish
Speaker 1: this running game, which we heard about all off season
Speaker 1: was going to be the focus of this offense and
Speaker 1: not make Aaron Rodgers throw the ball safety time.
Speaker 2: There's no adjustments, there's no nothing. And the worst part
Speaker 2: is that Aaron Rodgers has that Aaron Rodgers face, which
Speaker 2: is which conveys to me, the viewer, none of this
Speaker 2: is my fault. It's everybody else's fault. That just might
Speaker 2: be me interpreting, but that's how it always appears to
Speaker 2: me with Aaron Rodgers. And I mean they're not very
Speaker 2: good right now.
Speaker 1: I mean the fact that, okay, so what GARYL. Wilson
Speaker 1: ended up with some good stats yesterday, but like he
Speaker 1: doesn't really seem to be a part a major part
Speaker 1: of the game plan.
Speaker 2: Breece Hall.
Speaker 1: Breece Hall, like we were talking about him for Offensive
Speaker 1: Player of the Year.
Speaker 2: They can't get him involved, Yes, we were anyway. Bottom line,
Speaker 2: this is one of the weirdest guessing lines ever because
Speaker 2: I like four plays and all of them are three
Speaker 2: point road favorites. San Francisco at Seattle, Detroit to Dallas,
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh at the Raiders, and Buffalo at the Jets. The
Speaker 2: Jets coming off of London