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Speaker 1: talking a lot today about the killer of the health

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Speaker 1: insurance CEO Brian Thompson. Luigi Manngione found him in a

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Speaker 1: McDonald's in Altoona, Pennsylvania, and obviously what led him to

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Speaker 1: get arrested was the police being able to disseminate the photograph,

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Speaker 1: the photograph of him pulling down his mask supposedly at

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Speaker 1: a Starbucks, maybe flirting with the one of the counter girls.

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Speaker 1: But it's also I think turned him into a folk

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Speaker 1: hero among the lunatic fringe that think killing business executives

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Speaker 1: is a cool idea.

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Speaker 2: Let's talk with Don Mahallak.

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Speaker 1: He's with ABC News, the Law Enforcement contributor there also

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Speaker 1: retired retired Senior Secrets Service agent Don.

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Speaker 2: How are you good?

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Speaker 3: And I'm happy to hear the wildfires are seemed to

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Speaker 1: Yes, the Winds died down a bit, so that's giving

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Speaker 2: And so far, so far, so good. Let's talk about how.

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Speaker 1: Luigi Mangioni got caught without the photos, especially the ones

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Speaker 1: of his face I saw too, you know, one of

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Speaker 1: them at Starbucks, also one from an uber. Without those photos,

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Speaker 1: it would be much more difficult to kill him, to

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Speaker 3: No, absolutely, listen. Law enforcement has leveraged surveillance technology videos

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Speaker 3: extensively these days to catch suspects. It's phenomenal piece of

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Speaker 3: technology that they have. In this case, the law enforcement

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Speaker 3: put it together, pull out pictures of him. They probably

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Speaker 3: out to find the suspect. In similar fashion, the Trump

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Speaker 3: licensed plate raader identified the play of the suspect, which

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Speaker 3: technology has become critical for catching the suspects got aro

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because there was some speculation watching the news last

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Speaker 3: Well, clearly the suspect had had an unusual direction of

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Speaker 3: Has he missed him on the streets in Manhattan. He

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Speaker 1: Is there a flip side to this, and that he

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I think you positioned it the right way

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Speaker 1: Right now, I was going to say, how does an

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Speaker 1: You know, often, I know teachers say they can tell

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Speaker 1: he was by every account up through high school and college,

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Speaker 3: Well, the verver profile of a lot of these individuals

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Speaker 1: You know, who reminded me of out here? We've had

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Speaker 2: What's the psychology of the.

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Speaker 3: That's one of the findings in all of the studies

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Speaker 3: of both assassin school shooters, they tend to be middle class,

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Speaker 3: They have a history of an unusual direction of interest

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Speaker 3: But the subtle things, the red flags that pop nobody

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Speaker 1: Thanks for coming on, Don, Don Mahallak, ABC News Law

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Speaker 1: enforcement contributor, retired senior Secret Service agent, Thank you for

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Speaker 1: But the statistic was sixty four percent of Democrats approved

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Speaker 1: If they make something redder and brighter, then people buy

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Speaker 8: It's all artificial.

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Speaker 1: I mean, these these dyes are known by their numbers.

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Speaker 1: Well, this is in Port Saint Lucie on Thanksgiving night.

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Speaker 9: the party, and I do want to say this about

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Speaker 9: Gavin Newsom. By the way, Yeah, Gavin Newsom, if he

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Speaker 9: actually becomes the nominee in twenty twenty eight, the Democrats

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Speaker 9: deserve to lose again because there's no way that a

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Speaker 9: pretty boy from Moren County is going to be able

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Speaker 9: to win over swing voters in swing states.

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Speaker 10: You don't think Gavin Newsom's working class enough to connect

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Speaker 10: with the everyday working man and woman of the heartland.

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Speaker 9: I think people remember him dining at the French laundry

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Speaker 9: and that will definitely be brought up. So if they

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Speaker 9: nominate him again, they deserve to lose, right.

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Speaker 10: Well, he does like to dress up and workers close

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Speaker 10: and play that role.

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Speaker 6: We'll see if you can pull it off.

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Speaker 1: The pretty boy from Marin County. They're not going to

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Speaker 1: nominate him. They already took a beating with the California Kennedy.

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Speaker 1: They're not going to go back with a second beating,

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Speaker 1: especially the guy who's actually responsible for all the mayhem

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Speaker 1: we're putting up with here.

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Speaker 2: I mean, she was kind of on the periphery of things,

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Speaker 2: although you know she.

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Speaker 1: Did have her at Prop forty seven title in summary

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Speaker 1: to stain her record. More coming up, Deborah Mark, I

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Speaker 1: think tomorrow you got to tell this story.

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Speaker 5: You like that?

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Speaker 2: Huh yeah, uh yeah, yeah, Yes, this is a muss okay.

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Speaker 8: I told them a story off the air. They liked

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Speaker 8: it so much they were sad that I didn't share it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you want her as a neighbor

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Speaker 1: or you don't want her as a neighbor, But we'll

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Speaker 1: decide tomorrow.

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Speaker 5: You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI AM

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Speaker 5: six forty Conway.

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Speaker 2: Coming up in minutes.

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Speaker 1: You can follow us at John Cobelt Radio on social

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Speaker 1: media platforms.

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Speaker 2: Is this true? We need one thousand and two followers

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Speaker 2: to get to twenty thousand. That's actually a lie. We

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Speaker 2: need one thousand and one.

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Speaker 1: Now, one thousand and one, all right, we want to

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Speaker 1: get to one. We want to get to twenty thousand followers,

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Speaker 1: so we need one thousand and one volunteers immediately. I

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Speaker 1: want to play this because you know this era is

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Speaker 1: going to pass very soon and journalists having hissy fits

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Speaker 1: and quitting the La Times. You know that Patrick Sun

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Speaker 1: Cheong blocked the Kamala Harris endorsement, and now he's saying

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Speaker 1: the paper has to be poor balanced. They have to

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Speaker 1: for example, when the election was coming up, he wanted

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Speaker 1: them to publish pros and cons on both candidates. He

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Speaker 1: wants the editorial board to be more balanced. He wants

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Speaker 1: to have some conservative viewpoints along with all the nutty

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Speaker 1: left wing nonsense. And this is just pissed off some

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Speaker 1: of the writers and they occasionally are resigning and the

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Speaker 1: latest is La Times. I think he's a business columnist. Oh,

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Speaker 1: legal columnist, Harry Littman, he resigned. Play this clip because

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Speaker 1: he went he went online and thank you, ger.

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Speaker 6: I think there's no other inference.

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Speaker 10: But the owner of the La Times has decided sort

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Speaker 10: to curry favor with Trump, to move in that direction,

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Speaker 10: to be, in his own words, fair and balanced.

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Speaker 6: And I just think this is not a time for

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Speaker 6: balance when you.

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Speaker 10: Have someone who's not telling the truth on the other side,

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Speaker 10: and it's a deep responsibility. And instead I think they

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Speaker 10: coward and are worried about their personal holdings and just

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Speaker 10: being threatened by Trump.

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Speaker 6: And that's a really shameful capitulation.

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Speaker 1: What is he talking about, We can't have balance. That's

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Speaker 1: a dirty word because because Trump lies? How about that

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Speaker 1: Biden pardon buddy, huh kind of blew a hole in

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Speaker 1: that claim. So he uh, he declared he had written

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Speaker 1: his last op ed for The Times. He's resigned his position.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to continue to work for a paper

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Speaker 1: that is appeasing Trump and facilitating his assault on the

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Speaker 1: democratic rule for craven reasons.

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Speaker 2: Just report the news. That's all you have to do.

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Speaker 1: Just I can't do it. They are exactly what everyone thought,

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Speaker 1: a bunch of fanatics and they're all quitting. Now excellent,

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Speaker 1: Now here's a man you actually got up at two

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Speaker 1: in the morning, I got a fire coverage.

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Speaker 11: Well, it's up all night anyway, and anything to get

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Speaker 11: out of the house. You know, you don't sleep. No,

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Speaker 11: So I see the fire at eleven o'clock. It's on

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Speaker 11: the eleven o'clock news. And anytime they break into Stephen Colbert,

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Speaker 11: Jimmy Kimmel, Jimmy Fallon and they and they blow out

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Speaker 11: those shows.

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Speaker 2: It's a big fire. They'll get a bigger audience.

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Speaker 11: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, no kidding, yeah, right, exactly.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 11: And so I called to management. I said, I live

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Speaker 11: a mile away. And then Matt Anderson showed me how

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Speaker 11: to take the station over from automation. Right, So now

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Speaker 11: I know how to do that, So I can come

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Speaker 11: in here any night now and really take the station

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Speaker 11: over from automation. That's right. It be like a pirate radio.

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Speaker 11: Watch them change the configuration tonight.

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Speaker 2: So I don't know how to do that.

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Speaker 11: And then this fire went on and on. We had

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Speaker 11: the Steve Krieger, who was a retired captain with LA County,

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Speaker 11: and man, that guy was staying on with us for

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Speaker 11: three and a half hours from all the way till

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Speaker 11: six o'clock.

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Speaker 2: I slept through the whole thing. Really.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah, you know, people in Malibu slept through it.

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Speaker 11: People had to knock on doors in Malibu to.

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Speaker 2: Wake people up. It was crazy.

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Speaker 1: No, it was next time you do that, don't call me. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I'm not like, I have the ringer off. I got

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Speaker 1: the phone in another room.

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Speaker 11: There is positives to living close to the station. One is,

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Speaker 11: I know, never have to deal with traffic.

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Speaker 2: Ever.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, the downside is I'm always the first call.

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Speaker 2: Hey, what's going on? You are sliding?

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Speaker 1: Then?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I volunteered. I volunteer. But but look, it's

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Speaker 2: you know, it's important.

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Speaker 11: There's a lot of people who only have radio as

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Speaker 11: their's single source of information out there, you know, because

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Speaker 11: you know, when the electricity goes down or the cell

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Speaker 11: towers go down, you don't have your cell phone with you,

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Speaker 11: and you don't have Twitter and Facebook and all that

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Speaker 11: stuff you need, you know, AM radio.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what we're trying to convince congressome that's right.

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Speaker 11: Tim Lynn's coming on with us. We're talking about the

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Speaker 11: helicopters and the Malibu fire, and also out we'll start

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Speaker 11: with Alex Stone about they're calling it the Franklin fire,

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Speaker 11: and and we'll have all the details all night long,

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Speaker 11: plus a little more information on that crazy cat Luigi MANGEONI.

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Speaker 2: Yes, you don't really something bad happen to him, Yester.

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Speaker 2: We were talking about this.

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Speaker 11: If I understand, if you your empathize, empathize with him

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Speaker 11: or sympathize with him in in a weird way. Okay, okay,

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Speaker 11: but don't put anything on social media supporting this kid.

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Speaker 11: You'll never get a job in corporate America.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's absolutely never. Yeah.

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Speaker 11: People are going to screw up their lives for their

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Speaker 11: entire lives over one text one.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah one. Post Conway is next.

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