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Speaker 2: Look up, everybody, and welcome to the Fantasy Flex Podcast.

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Speaker 5: I am your host, Chris Raybond.

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Speaker 2: Joints is always by one of the top writers in

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Speaker 2: the game, Sean Kerner, and today we have a very

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Speaker 2: special guest, one of the goats in the industry, one

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Speaker 2: of the co founders of Established the Run.

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Speaker 5: My man, Evan Silvera. Evan, what's going on?

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Speaker 7: What's going on? Guys, I'm ready for this and two weeks. Yeah,

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Speaker 7: it's just about to get real.

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Speaker 5: Yes, it's gonna get real.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna talk all sleepers today because you know, those

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Speaker 5: Let's just jump right into it, Evan.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna start with running backs, because you can never

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Speaker 2: have enough running backs. But you can't you can't go

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Speaker 2: crazy draft them in like the first five rounds either

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Speaker 2: because they play a fewer games, they get hurt more,

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Speaker 2: all that stuff. So give me some sleepers that you

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Speaker 6: I think one of the easiest answers is the sleeper

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Speaker 6: And this year he is again outside of the top

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Speaker 6: thirty six in ADP. I thought that Tyler Oujiar might

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Speaker 6: but Tyler Algier really hasn't made any progress if you

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Speaker 6: look at the preseason depth charts so far. I think

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Speaker 6: everybody's kind of on Isaiah Pacheco. At this point, he

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Speaker 7: Oh wow, But I mean listening.

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Speaker 6: He plays in an explosive offense. He's two hundred and

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Speaker 7: Snaps there, Nahim Heinz is still.

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Speaker 6: Getting drafted outside the top thirty six RBS, and I

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I love me some Naim heines, I was.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's kind of as simple as Frank right,

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Speaker 5: Yeah. Absolutely, you know, I love Brian Robinson. He's going

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Speaker 2: Like now we're starting to see like, okay, he started

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Speaker 5: There's really no downside RB fifty seven.

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Speaker 5: I think that's what they want out of Gibson.

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Speaker 2: Pacheco has been consistently in there as a second running

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Speaker 5: So I think it's smart to have, you.

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Speaker 2: Know, even if he's the second running back with a

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Speaker 6: Kadarius Tony is still being drafted outside the top thirty six.

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Speaker 5: So yeah, I'm liking Olave more and more. And the

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Speaker 2: Just amazing at drafting, like they they fought, like they

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Speaker 8: So my drafts gargery this year. Once once the thirty

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Speaker 8: once drop the board, you need to be taking flyers

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Speaker 3: Know, Romeo Dobbs, the hype is real.

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Speaker 8: I believe in him, but I think Ellen Wizard could

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Speaker 8: I really thought he was going to overtake Jalen Guyton

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Speaker 8: you know, he's a no brainer in this wide receiver

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Speaker 7: Now, you guys chalk yourselves yet into Sammy Watkins.

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Speaker 5: No, absolutely not. It's not Sammy Watkins podcast.

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Speaker 3: Feel free to feel free to pitch him.

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Speaker 7: Sammy is healthy. No, I mean, I don't know if

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Speaker 6: But it does sound like I mean, based on the beat,

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Speaker 7: He's not that old. I mean, he's not even thirty

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Speaker 6: I know we say this every year about Sammy Watkins,

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Speaker 7: To I mean, and look he did.

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Speaker 7: You know, they would call him playoff Sammy, but I

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Speaker 6: You know, he's going to the eighteenth round, guys, you

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Speaker 7: I'm willing to take him there.

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Speaker 3: Do you think he'll be sort of the NBS role

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Speaker 6: I would rather him not be the best role, I think,

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Speaker 7: But she did use him like that at times when

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Speaker 6: I mean I just think, you know, at his age,

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Speaker 7: So its like I'll take him in the eighteen.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, sure enough.

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Speaker 8: I mean, if he stays healthy, he would definitely crush

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Speaker 2: Yes, I mean, somebody's got to catch these passes, man,

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Speaker 2: you know, it's it's gonna be. And CoV is apparently

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Speaker 6: But uh right, the dustiest receiver court you've ever seen

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Speaker 2: And there's some bad ones too, but yeah, it's it's

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Speaker 5: But uh yeah, I mean I like Dobbs.

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Speaker 2: I think I think he's a guy like when you're drafting,

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Speaker 2: he's been targeted on twelve of twenty nine route this preseason,

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Speaker 2: and that's exactly what you want. That's exactly as forty

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Speaker 5: So I love him.

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Speaker 2: I think George Pickens at fifty four, you know, he's

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Speaker 5: Evan, you mentioned Olave.

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Speaker 2: I think he has a chance to be the most

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Speaker 2: Look at those guys. So we kind of covered them,

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Speaker 7: Yet he's still been starting.

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Speaker 7: He's just he's a raw athlete, you know.

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Speaker 7: But it sounds like he's gonna be back for Week one.

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Speaker 6: He may start slow, but in this new past heavier

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Speaker 6: Jared Everett's another guy who's always had a lot of potential,

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Speaker 7: I want to get your guys take on Taysom.

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Speaker 6: Hill because you can tell yourself a story where Taysom

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Speaker 7: I mean, you know, I.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I like that because I think Adam Troutman, they

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Speaker 5: If Michael Thomas is hurt. They also could use Taysom

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Speaker 2: So in a in a normal M ten team league.

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Speaker 2: But if you start getting into like you know, twelve

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Speaker 8: So yeah, that would be like that who is that

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Speaker 7: That was so long ago. We're we're really dating ourselves

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Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, And I think you know, to the point

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Speaker 2: you could get for free, and you know, if nothing happens,

439
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Speaker 2: nothing happens, but he's got a lot of upside Sean.

440
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Speaker 8: Yeah, So once the top twelve off the board, you're

441
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Speaker 8: basically you know, streaming to begin of the season. I

442
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Speaker 8: think the real sleeper is you got a monitor the

443
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Speaker 8: waiver wire the first few weeks. Usually once the season starts,

444
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Speaker 8: we see which tight ends are, you know, surprisingly running

445
00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:32,760
Speaker 8: route over seventy percent of the time in a good offense.

446
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Speaker 8: Guys that come to mind last year, guys like Dawson Knox,

447
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Speaker 8: Dalton Schultz, zach Ertz once the trade happened, yet Friarmouth

448
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Speaker 8: once Ebro went down. So yeah, when you when you

449
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Speaker 8: punt tight end, you have to be ready to just

450
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Speaker 8: pounce on whoever the next tight end one's going to be.

451
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Speaker 8: And there's gonna be a few in this tier because

452
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Speaker 8: I love this tight end two tier this year. So

453
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Speaker 8: I think the one I want to start with is

454
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Speaker 8: Tyler Higbee. His ADP seems ridiculous right now, but he's

455
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Speaker 8: really up there in like my top fifteen. But he's

456
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Speaker 8: going to be running out eighty five ninety percent of

457
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Speaker 8: the time potentially in the Rams offense, so you can't

458
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Speaker 8: ask for more than that. He was a bit disappointing

459
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Speaker 8: last year, but he could bounce back this season, especially

460
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Speaker 8: if teams start to really try to stop Cooper Cup.

461
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Speaker 8: You know, it could result in Higby seeing a couple

462
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Speaker 8: more targets a game. So I like starting with him,

463
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Speaker 8: but ultimately you want to be monitoring that way everywhere

464
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Speaker 8: early in the season and then a guy that I

465
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Speaker 8: always bring up. I feel like I'm no talking about

466
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Speaker 8: and or drafting him, but it's Hayden Hurst. In best

467
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Speaker 8: ball format specifically, I've been able to get him outside

468
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Speaker 8: of the top thirty a lot, but his ADP's up

469
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Speaker 8: around twenty four right now. But he's essentially replacing CJ. Zoma,

470
00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:38,919
Speaker 8: who certainly is going to have spiked weeks. But if

471
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Speaker 8: any one of the Trio wide receivers would go down,

472
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Speaker 8: then I think he might be viable in rew draft leagues.

473
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Speaker 8: But I just love this situation he's going into. He's

474
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Speaker 8: a first round talent. I think he's an upgrade over Zoma,

475
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Speaker 8: So love getting him late. And then I was going

476
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Speaker 8: to bring up Isaiah Likely as well. I really could

477
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Speaker 8: see them trying to figure out a way to use

478
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Speaker 8: him as like a Kyle Pitts, Brevin Jordan or like

479
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Speaker 8: you said, Mike is Seki role. So I think he's

480
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Speaker 8: a guy that you definitely have to consider late in

481
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Speaker 8: you know, premium tight end deeper best ball type of formats.

482
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Speaker 8: But he looks like he's gonna be the real deal.

483
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the thing with like tight ends, it

484
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Speaker 2: comes down a route, right and like if like we

485
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Speaker 2: can bust into that wide receiver rotation and get some

486
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Speaker 2: snaps at tight end, Like he could get to a

487
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Speaker 2: point where, given how efficient he's been, how much he's

488
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Speaker 2: been targeted per route, you know, he could end up

489
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Speaker 2: being valuable.

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Speaker 5: And I wouldn't be surprised if he.

491
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Speaker 2: You know, you know, the Ravens number three target is

492
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Speaker 2: still not that valuable, but you know, it's it's it's

493
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Speaker 2: a guy that I think he's just been so good

494
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Speaker 2: and popped so much that it would be we would

495
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Speaker 2: be remiss not to mention him.

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Speaker 3: I thing, do you think he hurts Mark Andrews at all?

497
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Speaker 7: I would say, you know, because I think Mark Andrews

498
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Speaker 7: is lot. I think he's the best receiving tight end.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I'm not. I'm not disagreeing with that at all.

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Speaker 8: But yeah, they really haven't had that second tight end

501
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Speaker 8: since really hayden Hurst left, so back then, you know,

502
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Speaker 8: we were fighting for him to get more than sixty

503
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Speaker 8: percent routes run. I agree that it probably won't impact

504
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Speaker 8: him at all. I was just no any slight agree.

505
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Speaker 7: It's a it's a good question.

506
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Speaker 6: I think another good question is what are we doing

507
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Speaker 6: this year with mo Ali Cox because if you look

508
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Speaker 6: at well and I think Kylon Grantson has looked actually

509
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Speaker 6: a lot better in this preseason than he did in

510
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Speaker 6: his first year. But Mo Ali Cox, I mean they

511
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Speaker 6: trust him as a blocker. He's played a lot of

512
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Speaker 6: snaps over the past years. Is they don't call routes

513
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Speaker 6: for him. You know, now Jack Doyle is gone, and

514
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Speaker 6: these other tight ends that they had behind him, like

515
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Speaker 6: he's going to be out there a lot and and

516
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Speaker 6: you know what a lot oftentimes what happens with these

517
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Speaker 6: tight ends that are not you know, in our first

518
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Speaker 6: year in our top twelve is that it's just everything

519
00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:37,840
Speaker 6: is dictated by touchdowns. So if this guy comes in

520
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Speaker 6: and scores eight nine touchdowns, he's going to end up

521
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Speaker 6: as like a top eight tight end. And I think

522
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Speaker 6: mo Aley Cox with the you know, the basketball background,

523
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Speaker 6: he can win contesta catch. You look at his yards

524
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Speaker 6: per route run at PFF over the last few years,

525
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Speaker 6: like he's been you know, very good. You know, from

526
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Speaker 6: that standpoint, I think he's a pretty good player. And

527
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Speaker 6: I think they trust him. They gave him a nice

528
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Speaker 6: little deal, and I think he's.

529
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Speaker 3: For touchdown upside for sure.

530
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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's been he's been moving up on board, especially

531
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Speaker 2: you know with Ogletree was that just got hurt. So

532
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Speaker 2: I think it comes down to touchdowns a lot in routes.

533
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Speaker 2: So it's you know, for me, I think Higbee, you know,

534
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Speaker 2: and Everett the two that stand out a lot, because

535
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Speaker 2: both of these are going to be you know, we're

536
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Speaker 2: expecting it to be like.

537
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Speaker 5: Top five, top top eight pass offenses.

538
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Speaker 2: He'be first and routes per dropback among all tight ends

539
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Speaker 2: last year eighty six percent. And then Everett I just think,

540
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Speaker 2: you know, in that Jared Cook role, he's a younger,

541
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Speaker 2: more you know, just more athletic guy at this point

542
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Speaker 2: in his career. That so he could put up a

543
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Speaker 2: sneakier numbers than Cooke did. And then you know, to

544
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Speaker 2: your point about IRV Smith, I mean, if he gets

545
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Speaker 2: to the Higbee treatment like Hageby again he was fifth

546
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Speaker 2: in routes and first and routes per dropback, you know,

547
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Speaker 2: if Smith gets that kind of usage Kirk Cousins has

548
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Speaker 2: been you know, is it sixty eight touchdowns in the

549
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Speaker 2: last two years, Like, I think that could be very

550
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Speaker 2: profitable as well.

551
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Speaker 5: And then that's that's kind of why we.

552
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Speaker 2: Like Albert Oh, because it's Russell Wilson, you expect him

553
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Speaker 2: to throw, you know, thirty to thirty five scores and

554
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Speaker 2: Albert oh targets per route was twenty three point five

555
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Speaker 2: percent last year. And he's always been a tight end

556
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Speaker 2: that when he's on a fie a ton of targets.

557
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Speaker 2: So yeah, I kind of look for those guys that

558
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Speaker 2: are attached.

559
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Speaker 5: To those big qbs. All right, let's let's finish it

560
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Speaker 5: up with quarterbacks.

561
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Speaker 2: And you know this is this is the position we

562
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Speaker 2: tend to wait on a lot. So Evan, who are

563
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Speaker 2: you getting when you when you wait on quarterback this year?

564
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Speaker 1: Well, I think if you look at the complexion of

565
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Speaker 1: the AFC West right now and you've got you know,

566
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Speaker 1: Russell Wilson and Justin Herbert and Patrick Mahomes, I think

567
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Speaker 1: that Derek Carr has a chance at a real big year.

568
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Speaker 6: And I'm below consensus on Devonte Adams. That doesn't mean

569
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Speaker 6: that I think that Devanta Adams is going to be

570
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Speaker 6: a bum. I'm just not taking him in the top

571
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Speaker 6: ten where he goes in like every single draft, you know,

572
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Speaker 6: I have him as like I think number sixteen seventeen.

573
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Speaker 6: Darren Waller Hunter Renfrow has been, you know, a slot machine,

574
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Speaker 6: and then I think there's just a lot of shootout

575
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Speaker 6: potentially with all these great quarterbacks in the AFC West.

576
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Speaker 7: So I think that Derek Carr is a guy who

577
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Speaker 7: can beat his ADP.

578
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Speaker 6: I think the Kirk Cousins can beat his ADP in

579
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Speaker 6: this new offense. Trevor Lawrence had, I would say, an

580
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Speaker 6: underwhelming rookie year, but if you consider the context in

581
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Speaker 6: which his rookie.

582
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Speaker 7: Year occurred with Urban Meyer and all that craft.

583
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Speaker 6: That went on there, Doug Peterson's going to add a

584
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Speaker 6: major level of stability there in Jacksonville. And I think

585
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Speaker 6: that we can probably all agree that Trevor Lawrence big, big,

586
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Speaker 6: big time talent. I wanted to like Daniel Jones, but

587
00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:28,600
Speaker 6: the more that we hear about this situation and he's

588
00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:31,600
Speaker 6: not playing well and they're already talking about Tyrod Taylor

589
00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:34,480
Speaker 6: could overtake him within the first month this season. Marcus

590
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Speaker 6: Mariota is free in drafts, yes, and you know, when

591
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Speaker 6: when he's been healthy, and that has been few and

592
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Speaker 6: far between. I mean, he you know, he's a classic

593
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Speaker 6: duel threat. And I think that Arthur Smith will probably

594
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Speaker 6: have a better second year as a head coach than

595
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Speaker 6: he did a first year. You know, Marcus Mariotta playing indoors,

596
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Speaker 6: the defense is going to be terrible. They're going to

597
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Speaker 6: have to put put up points to you know, stay

598
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Speaker 6: somewhat competitive and no one's tracking Marcus Scenariota.

599
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I like I like me some Mariota too.

600
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Speaker 2: I think, you know, just having that rushing up side

601
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Speaker 2: is like, that's that's what you want to have these

602
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Speaker 2: quarterbacks when you're you're have these like locked in top

603
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Speaker 2: twelve guys.

604
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Speaker 5: John, what about you, wo do you like for sleepers

605
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Speaker 5: at QB.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, so, I mean a QB wants the top twelve

607
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Speaker 8: off the board. If you're in a redraft league where

608
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Speaker 8: you start one QB, this is you know, streamer territory.

609
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Speaker 8: So again just you're gonna be streaming the best ranked

610
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Speaker 8: quarterback that week. We're just taking advantage of matchups and

611
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Speaker 8: then you'll be surprised by the time you get to

612
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Speaker 8: the fantasy playoffs. You'll usually have you know, a QB

613
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Speaker 8: one locked up. I've done it before with like Jalen

614
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Speaker 8: Hurts in years past, justin Herbert. You're always gonna have

615
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Speaker 8: somebody that you end up just keeping the rest of

616
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Speaker 8: the season, So it's definitely a viable strategy. But if

617
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Speaker 8: you're in a two QB super flex format, you can't

618
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Speaker 8: go on with Derek Carr Kirk Cousins. Those guys offer

619
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Speaker 8: a super high floor, and I think that they have

620
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Speaker 8: one of the highest ceilings they've had in their career

621
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Speaker 8: heading into this year. You know, as Evan mentioned, you

622
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Speaker 8: know car is gonna be a bunch of shootouts. He

623
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Speaker 8: has an elite catching corps with you know, DeVonta Adams

624
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Speaker 8: Hunter and for Darren Waller and then Kirk Cousins. I

625
00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:07,159
Speaker 8: love him in this new scheme under Kevin O'Connell, I

626
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:09,320
Speaker 8: think they're gonna be even more pass heavy, up tempo.

627
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Speaker 8: So I love those two in that range. And then

628
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Speaker 8: when you get later, I still like Daniel Jones just

629
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Speaker 8: I can't get over just the rushing upside. I think,

630
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Speaker 8: you know, Brian Dable can't hurt, so we have yet

631
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:23,040
Speaker 8: to see Daniel Jones true potential unlocked as a dual

632
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Speaker 8: threat quarterback. So still like him where you can get

633
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Speaker 8: him super late. And then Jared goff Raybon, I mean, yes,

634
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Speaker 8: that's our guy right now. Just that offense has so

635
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:35,520
Speaker 8: many weapons and I love that they added DJ Shark

636
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:38,359
Speaker 8: drafted Jamison Williams, adding a vertical threat.

637
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Speaker 3: So I just love Goff.

638
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Speaker 8: You don't really think of him as a high upside guy,

639
00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:44,920
Speaker 8: but in a two QB format getting him outside of

640
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Speaker 8: the top twenty four usually, I just love where he's gone.

641
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Speaker 6: Jamison Williams is an electrifying talent.

642
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:52,800
Speaker 7: When they get him on the other.

643
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Speaker 6: I mean they're going to have Jamison Williams and DJ

644
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Speaker 6: har two like four three five guys on the outside

645
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Speaker 6: and then a mon raw In Hawkinson in the middle.

646
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Speaker 7: I mean, and they have a real good offense and

647
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Speaker 7: swift and swift absolutely, I mean they've got a.

648
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Speaker 5: Yeah.

649
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Speaker 2: I think like Detroit this year is like that shootout

650
00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:16,160
Speaker 2: team that comes out of nowhere. Like I think Detroit

651
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:17,479
Speaker 2: is gonna be in a ton of shootouts. I think

652
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Speaker 2: there's something there's gonna be bad. But I think, like

653
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Speaker 2: you said, line, it's like top three for me, Like

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Speaker 2: they I don't really see a weakness on.

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Speaker 5: Their offensive line.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so and then like you said, they have good

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Speaker 2: pass catchers to start the year, and then when they

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Speaker 2: get Williams back, it's just gonna take it to another level.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I think Jared Goff is like he's like

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Speaker 2: that pocket passer that like that's the pocket pass Like

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Speaker 2: I don't I can pass on like Matt Ryan and

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Speaker 2: all these other guys.

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Speaker 5: Just give me Jared Goff. I'm taking a pocket passer. Wait,

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Speaker 5: but uh, two.

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Speaker 2: Guys, I'll mention because I'm I'm in line with you know,

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Speaker 2: Carr and Cousins. But you know, first of all, Trey

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Speaker 2: Lance still has an ADP outside the top twelve and

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Speaker 2: a lot of more casual league.

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Speaker 5: So if that's your league, Trey Lance can win the

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Speaker 5: MVP this year. Like, I'm all in on Trey Lance.

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Speaker 2: Kyle Shanahan Scheven has been amazing where Debo and Ayuk

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Speaker 2: are getting like eight yards after the catch even though

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Speaker 2: they're catching the ball like eight ten yards down the

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Speaker 2: field like they're digging yack opportunities of like screen passes,

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Speaker 2: except they're already at the first down marker.

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Speaker 5: So like, I don't think Lance is gonna have to.

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Speaker 2: Do a whole lot, you know, in that scheme to

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Speaker 2: like hit value, especially with his rushing upside and then

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Speaker 2: justin field, he was a quarterback even as bad as

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Speaker 2: it got last year with Matt Naggy with you know,

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Speaker 2: the receivers playing terribly though no O line his last

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Speaker 2: four starts that he finished the game because he got.

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Speaker 5: Hurt in one of them.

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Speaker 2: With QB two, QB eleven, QB nine, QB ten, that's

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Speaker 2: averaged out to a QB eight finish, and it's just

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Speaker 2: gonna be just as bad this year, you know, Like

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Speaker 2: you know, it's that rushing upside with guys like Fields,

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Speaker 2: with guys like Krey Lance, that I think that's what

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Speaker 2: gives you that potential, like top eight, top six upside

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Speaker 2: that a lot of those court like.

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Speaker 5: The TUA is probably not going to give you. You know,

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Speaker 5: Matt Ryan's not going to give you that.

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Speaker 2: So I really think, you know, justin field is kind

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Speaker 2: of my fallback strategy if I can't get Trey Lance,

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Speaker 2: I look at fields.

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Speaker 5: If not Daniel Jones, he's.

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Speaker 2: Doing as QB twenty seven, he finished with QB eighteen

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Speaker 2: last year and he threw like what touchdowns last year,

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Speaker 2: Like you know, it's you don't need much from a

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Speaker 2: guy like Daniel Jones. And I love the Mariota call

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Speaker 2: as well. I think I think Mariota like he's gonna

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Speaker 2: be one of the top streamers he's gonna run. He

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Speaker 2: runs it reckless, abandoned, soll he might get hurt, but

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Speaker 2: he's free, like you said, Evan, So yeah, I'm all

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Speaker 2: in on the Russian guys. That's gonna wrap it up.

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Speaker 2: Evan really really appreciate you doing this. Let everybody know

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