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Speaker 2: And Dan and Tye, Dan Robinstein, welcome back. Week ten

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Speaker 1: Oh thanks for having me. Ty always a pleasure. I've

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Speaker 2: Gracing our eardrums here today on this Tuesday episode, we've

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Speaker 2: It has been rumored for weeks, for months, for well

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Speaker 2: They will pay him something north of fifteen million dollars

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Speaker 1: Those four weird year for LSU. Right, Normally you'd say

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Speaker 1: However we can, so head on over to John sumrawlsnew

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Speaker 1: a pretty sizable game from Mazoo this week in Bo Prabula.

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Speaker 1: It's what a mad Zolar's game for Mazoo against a

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Speaker 1: top five text A and M game. That game is

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Speaker 1: in Como. Yes, that game is in Columbia, So that

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Speaker 1: will be fascinating to watch in terms of what their

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Speaker 1: backup situation looks like in zolars. But yeah, this is

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Speaker 1: that time of year, and hopefully everybody's able to recover quickly.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, the nature of the game can't wait for

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Speaker 1: this week's action. Hopefully a healthy Saturday.

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Speaker 2: Dan, Let's talk some polls please. We got two of

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Speaker 2: them here. We've got an AP Top twenty five. We've

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Speaker 2: got over Baller Top twelve. Interestingly enough, the top seven

443
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Speaker 2: are exactly the same. Okay, there is a lot of similarity.

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Speaker 2: As I've been saying now for several weeks running, we

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Speaker 2: have seen this slow merge as the AP voters start

446
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Speaker 2: to realize the airs in their ways and they have

447
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Speaker 2: gradually become for Baller top twelve voters, as our polls

448
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Speaker 2: have solely become the same thing. Where does things stand

449
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Speaker 2: right now? Our biggest gainers after week ten? Texas Tech

450
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Speaker 2: is up four, now into the top ten at number nine.

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Speaker 2: Notre Dame jumps up two. They are now the number

452
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Speaker 2: ten team in the land. Oklahoma, Texas and Utah all

453
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Speaker 2: jump up seven. Virginia jumps up three. They're now all

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Speaker 2: the way up to number twelve. The biggest droppers in

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Speaker 2: the AP poll. Vandy dropped six down to number fifteen.

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Speaker 2: Georgia Tech fell like a stone all the way down

457
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Speaker 2: to number sixteen. That's eight spots from where they were previously.

458
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Speaker 2: Miami drops eight to number eighteen, Tennessee drops nine to

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Speaker 2: number twenty three, Cincinnati drops eight to number twenty five,

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Speaker 2: and Houston drops out entirely. So I don't know if

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Speaker 2: we have any great surprises on that front, but I

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Speaker 2: can tell you the way it looks in the verbol

463
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Speaker 2: are top twelve. Where things stand right now, We've got

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Speaker 2: Ohio State, Indiana, Texas, A and m Alabama and Georgia

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Speaker 2: as your top five. We've got Oregon, Old miss BYU,

466
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Speaker 2: Texas Tech, and Notre Dame rounding out the top ten.

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Speaker 2: And then to round out the top twelve, we've got

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Speaker 2: Virginia and Oklahoma, with Georgia Tech, Louisville and Texas as

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Speaker 2: the first three out. Now, this is not exactly how

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Speaker 2: things end up translating into the projected playoff bracket. I

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Speaker 2: will detail that in just a few moments, But first

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Speaker 2: your reaction to.

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Speaker 1: This, I'm mostly fine with it. I mean, it would

474
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Speaker 1: have been a nice year to get four teams in

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Speaker 1: a playoff. When you look at the rankings, I mean,

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Speaker 1: you can't leave BYU as an undefeated team out of

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Speaker 1: a top four playoff. I guess not. I guess I insist,

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Speaker 1: But otherwise no, it all seems fine to me. Notre

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Speaker 1: Dame moved up after one of the more putrid Notre

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Speaker 1: Dame performances happened. It was a clunker. It was a

481
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Speaker 1: very quiet clunker. I don't think it was registered on

482
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Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of people's minds.

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Speaker 2: But that's because nobody could watch the game, or that

484
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Speaker 2: also hurts A large portion of people could now watch

485
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Speaker 2: the game, like ten million people were without ESPN access.

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Speaker 1: I can appreciate both Texas and Oklahoma making sizeable jumps,

487
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Speaker 1: though there is something that kind of feels fishy about.

488
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Speaker 1: Oh the SEC teams when they win big games, they

489
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Speaker 1: jump up seven spots when anybody else wins two or

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Speaker 1: three spots. And those were big games, obviously, beating Vanderbilt

491
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Speaker 1: and beating Tennessee, Texas at home and Oklahoma on the road.

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Speaker 1: I get it. Those are impressive wins. But when you

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Speaker 1: look at the jumps over the course of a season,

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Speaker 1: it seems somewhat more dramatic at times with the SEC

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Speaker 1: and Big ten. You know, seeing Virginian there is weird,

496
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Speaker 1: but I'm happy to see it.

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Speaker 2: Oh.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they keep winning, they keep finding a way. Seeing

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Speaker 1: them in the top twelve there great for the who's otherwise, No,

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Speaker 1: it all feels kind of right to me. I'm always

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Speaker 1: surprised at a team like who was I thinking about earlier? Oh,

502
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Speaker 1: like Michigan, Like, I'm not sure exactly what they've done

503
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Speaker 1: to really wow me this year, and so I guess

504
00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:44,760
Speaker 1: them being out of the top twenty makes sense. But

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Speaker 1: I guess that that win against what the big win

506
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Speaker 1: is Washington in this moment, I don't know what I

507
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Speaker 1: really have to say about Michigan in this moment, but yeah,

508
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Speaker 1: it was a weird reminder having them play against Ohio

509
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Speaker 1: State at the end of the year, like, oh, they're

510
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Speaker 1: still in it. They're very much still in it.

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Speaker 2: And again, I promise, so I will talk a little

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Speaker 2: bit more about that in just a few seconds. In

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Speaker 2: case you're wondering how this translates to a playoff bracket. Again,

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Speaker 2: I need to reiterate this because I put the bracket

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Speaker 2: out last week and some people didn't fully understand where

516
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Speaker 2: I was coming from with this, I'm going to say

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Speaker 2: it again.

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Speaker 1: Okay.

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Speaker 2: Number one, they changed the seating model. The seating is

520
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Speaker 2: different this year. Just because you win your conference does

521
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Speaker 2: not mean you get a first round by So this

522
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Speaker 2: is where the rankings that we see on Tuesday nights

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Speaker 2: where the eventual final ranking that we see on a

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Speaker 2: Sunday afternoon after conference championship games. This is where those

525
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Speaker 2: rankings are going to have a little bit more importance

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Speaker 2: because they will dictate who is seeded where, regardless of

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Speaker 2: which teams win their conferences. Now, if you win your conference,

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Speaker 2: if you're one of the top five conference champions, you're

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Speaker 2: going to get in regardless. It might be as a

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Speaker 2: twelve seed if you're say Memphis, but either way, your

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Speaker 2: top five conference champions are going to get in.

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Speaker 1: All right.

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Speaker 2: Right now, the way that this is shaping up, We've

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Speaker 2: got Memphis at the twelve, Georgia as the five. Okay,

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Speaker 2: We've got Virginia as an eleven on the road first

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Speaker 2: round against your Oregon Ducks. Interesting, we would have Notre

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Speaker 2: Dame at number ten on the road in Oxford against Ole, Miss,

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Speaker 2: which would be a crazy freaking game. Yeah, and then

539
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Speaker 2: we've got actually right now, and I understand to another point,

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Speaker 2: this may not happen. It probably won't based on our

541
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Speaker 2: projections right now, based on our rankings and only our rankings.

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Speaker 2: A rematch between Texas Tech and BYU, which we're actually

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Speaker 2: going to talk about here, it's the map for today.

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Speaker 2: The winner of that will play Ohio State. The winner

545
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Speaker 2: of the Notre Dame ole Mis game will get Indiana,

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Speaker 2: the winner of the Virginia Oregon game we'd get A

547
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Speaker 2: and M, and the winner of the five to twelve

548
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Speaker 2: between Georgia and Memphis would get Alabama. Yes, the way

549
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Speaker 2: it shakes out right now, I realize there are games

550
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Speaker 2: will be played. I realize that there's a conference championship week.

551
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Speaker 2: I realized that this is going to get shifted around

552
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Speaker 2: a great deal, and there are probably going to be

553
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Speaker 2: a handful of teams that work their way into this

554
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Speaker 2: field that aren't currently reflected in this bracket. But based

555
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Speaker 2: on the rules of how the bracket's going to work,

556
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Speaker 2: and based on how our Verball or Top twelve has

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Speaker 2: lined these teams up as of now, this is how

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Speaker 2: it would look.

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Speaker 1: Right. So in a more realistic scenario, obviously I understand

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Speaker 1: what you're doing with this exercise, that you're just extrapolating

561
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Speaker 1: the top twelve into a bracket. You'll have a like

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Speaker 1: an Ohio State Big ten champion followed up with you know,

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Speaker 1: in this scenario either in Alabama or Texas, A and

564
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Speaker 1: m SEC champion as the two seed, and then go

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Speaker 1: from there.

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Speaker 2: I think it all likelihood, Yeah, I think in all likelihood.

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Speaker 1: I mean, well, I say it's not going to beat

568
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Speaker 1: Indiana and be like, well, those were clearly the best

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Speaker 1: two teams in the country and we are going in

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Speaker 1: to this with absolute certainty that were correct. So one

571
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Speaker 1: two again.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and this, by the way, this was a point

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Speaker 2: that was raised I think out of a bowlers dot

574
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Speaker 2: com when people saw this and they said, ad, you know,

575
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Speaker 2: this probably isn't one hundred percent. I know it's not

576
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Speaker 2: one hundred percent. I'm just going based on the rankings

577
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Speaker 2: right now. I'm not making any assumptions. I'm just taking

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Speaker 2: what we've got and showing people how it translates into

579
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Speaker 2: a bracket, which certainly could mean some really interesting matchups

580
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Speaker 2: once we start talking about conference champions and especially Big

581
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Speaker 2: ten and SEC champions. Yeah, that's definitely going to affect

582
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Speaker 2: who gets the first round by what the semifinal matchups,

583
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Speaker 2: what the quarterfinal matchups end up looking like at that point.

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Speaker 2: Once we get I think a little bit better picture

585
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Speaker 2: for who is where we can start talking about pathways

586
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Speaker 2: and stuff like that even a few weeks out. But

587
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Speaker 2: we're just not there yet. This is what it looks

588
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Speaker 2: like at time.

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Speaker 1: So this one has what two big twelve teams, Notre

590
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Speaker 1: Dame and one ACC in Virginia. That's you're looking at

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Speaker 1: this correctly.

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Speaker 2: Okay, that's right, that's right, And a lot of that

593
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Speaker 2: is subject to change because the tiebreaker situation is friggin nuts. Okay,

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Speaker 2: I am not going to talk through all of the

595
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Speaker 2: tiebreaker scenarios. That would take me hours on end. I'm

596
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Speaker 2: prepared to do that.

597
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:12,040
Speaker 1: We always know this till lunch.

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Speaker 2: Is that this is something of a side project for me.

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00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:17,280
Speaker 2: I love tiebreakers, counts is that people don't want me

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Speaker 2: to talk through every single tiebreaker scenario paint staking detail.

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Speaker 2: So here is what I will tell you, per my

602
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Speaker 2: tialytics statistics. Statistics. Yeah, I don't know, twenty four teams

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Speaker 2: realistically have a shot to win their respective conference. Great,

604
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Speaker 2: not mathematically. I'm talking in terms of my what'd you

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Speaker 2: just call them statistics? In terms of my statistics, I've

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Speaker 2: got twenty four teams that I think realistically have a shot.

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Speaker 2: That includes seven in the Big Twelve, six in the

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Speaker 2: Big Ten, six in the ACC, and another five.

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Speaker 1: In the SEC.

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Speaker 2: In terms of which conferences have the most potential to

611
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Speaker 2: get really weird, certainly the Big Twelve is at the

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Speaker 2: top of that. A close second would be the ACC.

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Speaker 2: Behind them is the SEC behind them would be the

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Speaker 2: Big Ten. I am also not taking into account any

615
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Speaker 2: of the group of six. I'm not going that deep

616
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Speaker 2: with it, but I am prepared at whatever point to

617
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Speaker 2: talk through what it would take to get like Iowa

618
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Speaker 2: in the Big Ten title game. Of course, to get

619
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Speaker 2: USC or Michigan or even Oregon in the Big Ten

620
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Speaker 2: title gain, there's a lot of stuff that could still

621
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Speaker 2: happen here as we get into the last four weeks

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Speaker 2: of the season.

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Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, and this is putting you

624
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Speaker 1: on the spot. I don't know if this is in

625
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Speaker 1: your spreadsheet or anything like that, but based on who

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Speaker 1: will be favored and what the schedules look like, if

627
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Speaker 1: you had to use the numbers to dictate the likeliest

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Speaker 1: conference championship matchups like Big ten. We know it's Ohio

629
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Speaker 1: State Indiana. We know those are the two teams that

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Speaker 1: are going to be favored along the way their schedule,

631
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Speaker 1: the rest of the way is the most advantaged to

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Speaker 1: end up playing against each other. Right, So, like in

633
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Speaker 1: the SEC, in the Big twelve, in the ACC, what

634
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Speaker 1: are the matchups that the numbers dictate?

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Speaker 2: So if you are looking solely based on projections now

636
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Speaker 2: moving total projection right, projected points spreads, assume that the

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Speaker 2: favorite ends up winning. You're right, Ohio State Indiana. I

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00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:29,760
Speaker 2: think we assume as much as the likeliest the likeliest

639
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:32,799
Speaker 2: case in the Big ten. In the SEC, it looks

640
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 2: an awful lot to me, like Alabama Georgia.

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Speaker 1: Okay, a rematch nice, which.

642
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Speaker 2: Would be a rematch, But I think that again, if

643
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:43,799
Speaker 2: you're going based solely on projections right now, right, what

644
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:47,319
Speaker 2: you're looking at is an Alabama Georgia matchup. If Old

645
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Speaker 2: Miss just sort of hanging out, Old Miss doesn't have

646
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Speaker 2: that realistic a path to get into that game, that

647
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Speaker 2: might not be a bad thing because there's a pretty

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Speaker 2: good chance to get a home game, they get a

649
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Speaker 2: week off, they still find their way in provided they

650
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Speaker 2: don't drop another one along away.

651
00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:03,280
Speaker 1: And Ole Miss has the does not have the tiebreaker.

652
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 1: Excuse me, obviously against Georgia, Alabama finishes with fired coach

653
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:13,479
Speaker 1: Oklahoma at home. I don't know if it's a buyer that's,

654
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:16,319
Speaker 1: you know, the a non conference opponent that is not

655
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:18,360
Speaker 1: going to offer much, and then another fired coach on

656
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 1: the road at Auburn. So three talented teams, three flawed

657
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:26,520
Speaker 1: teams or at least two flawed teams in Oklahoma. Nice

658
00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:31,239
Speaker 1: showing for Oklahoma. And Georgia finishes at Mississippi State. Texas

659
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:33,920
Speaker 1: they have Charlotte and there I believe, and then Georgia

660
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:36,719
Speaker 1: Tech and a pseudo neutral. It's in Atlanta, but it's

661
00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:39,879
Speaker 1: in Mercedes Benz, so a tough schedule. I would say

662
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Speaker 1: for Georgia to finish it out. I have that THEIRS

663
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:45,360
Speaker 1: and Texas is highlighted as the two most difficult November roads.

664
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think Texas is probably the most interesting

665
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:52,840
Speaker 2: team to chart as we get through November, because I

666
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:55,560
Speaker 2: think we saw some real growth for March Manning and

667
00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:58,960
Speaker 2: from this offense this past weekend against Vanderbilt. They look

668
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:02,799
Speaker 2: good until suddenly the defense didn't. I think if they

669
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:07,719
Speaker 2: continue to show real forward progress there on offense. That

670
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:10,480
Speaker 2: could make things really interesting because they've got some interesting matchups.

671
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Speaker 2: I haven't mentioned Texas A and M at all. The

672
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:17,239
Speaker 2: only reason for that is because I'm looking at some

673
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:20,759
Speaker 2: advanced projections, some of which probably haven't been updated. If

674
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 2: they finished seven to one with a loss to Texas,

675
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:25,880
Speaker 2: Texas would get the NOD. So more to the point,

676
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Speaker 2: Texas is really interesting. The Big twelve is just going

677
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:29,680
Speaker 2: to be weird.

678
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Speaker 1: Okay.

679
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:35,040
Speaker 2: The most likely outcome though is Texas Tech against Utah

680
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:38,480
Speaker 2: another rematch. But that was, you know, pretty fun for

681
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:40,239
Speaker 2: a lot of it, pretty fun for a lot. Now,

682
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:45,839
Speaker 2: look I bring up Texas Tech Utah meaning no disrespect

683
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Speaker 2: to BYU.

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Speaker 1: It's too late, TI, you have already disrespected them. Continue

685
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Speaker 1: and we're going to talk about BYU Tech just a

686
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:55,400
Speaker 1: little bit. We're going to preview that one. But again,

687
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Speaker 1: when I say the most likely, I am just going

688
00:36:58,280 --> 00:36:59,520
Speaker 1: based on projections right now.

689
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Speaker 2: It's a tough November for BYA. It's a really tough

690
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:04,959
Speaker 2: November for BYU for sure. I am just going based

691
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:07,000
Speaker 2: on projections. Right now, Texas Tech is favored by ten

692
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:10,360
Speaker 2: and a half points. So as we're doing this exercise,

693
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Speaker 2: we have to assume that Tech is going to be

694
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Speaker 2: the one that gets the nod. Here again, that's the

695
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 2: most likely outcome. But as we saw a year ago

696
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Speaker 2: at the Big Twelve, there's going to be a whole

697
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:22,960
Speaker 2: series of tie breakers that have to determine who that

698
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:25,160
Speaker 2: number two team is. I don't think there's any way

699
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 2: around that. There's a pretty strong likelihood the tiebreaker is

700
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Speaker 2: going to have to decide who the number one team is.

701
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:34,880
Speaker 2: So hunker down. I definitely think there is potential for

702
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 2: weird things to happen. But at time of recording, you

703
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 2: can make cases for Texas Tech, Utah, BYU, Cincinnati, TCU Cincinnati,

704
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 2: and maybe even Arizona State if all hell breaks loose

705
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:47,080
Speaker 2: and they can win a couple games.

706
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Speaker 1: With Jeff Simms, Wow, double Cincinnati in there. Did I

707
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:52,960
Speaker 1: say Cincinnati twice? CISINCINNTA twice, But I liked it. You're

708
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:55,440
Speaker 1: emphasizing it all right, There is a six teams in

709
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Speaker 1: the Big twelve event. Thank you. I jotted them down twice.

710
00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:01,200
Speaker 1: Continue yeh, yeah, that's okay. There is a team. So

711
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Speaker 1: TCU up by the way, also has like a brutal

712
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:06,960
Speaker 1: November Iowa State at BYU at Houston Cincinnati. There is

713
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Speaker 1: a team in the Big Twelve, and there is a

714
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Speaker 1: person in the Big Twelve that is going to have

715
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Speaker 1: a hand potentially like a major, major hand like the

716
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Speaker 1: Hulk fist in deciding the Big Twelve, and that's Scott Frost.

717
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:28,719
Speaker 1: UCF plays BYU Houston and Texas Tech to finish out

718
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 1: their schedule. So they're right there in terms of I

719
00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:34,719
Speaker 1: don't think UCF is all that good right now, but

720
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Speaker 1: they could play spoiler to some sort of crazy degree.

721
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:40,360
Speaker 1: Big twelve should be fascinating. Can't wait?

722
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Speaker 2: And then over in the acc if you were to

723
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Speaker 2: take the most likely outcome, do you want to venture

724
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Speaker 2: a guest? You have a guess if you are again,

725
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:55,919
Speaker 2: just go based solely on projections, right, Duke Georgia Tech,

726
00:38:56,080 --> 00:39:01,520
Speaker 2: Duke Georgia Tech. Yes, Duke Georgia Tech. Right now, right now,

727
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:05,200
Speaker 2: if you're Georgia Tech, you feel pretty good. If you're

728
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:07,080
Speaker 2: Georgia Tech, you feel pretty good. You win out the

729
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:09,560
Speaker 2: rest of the way. It's a favorable schedule, You're going

730
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Speaker 2: to be in that title game.

731
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Speaker 1: Yep.

732
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:16,839
Speaker 2: I can realistically, they'll find a path for Virginia and

733
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 2: Duke those are easy.

734
00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:20,960
Speaker 1: And they're playing, they're about to play.

735
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:23,440
Speaker 2: They're playing in two weeks. That game is going to

736
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Speaker 2: be a huge pivot point in this conversation.

737
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Speaker 1: When was the last Duke Virginia game that had big,

738
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:32,399
Speaker 1: meaningful ACC championship expectations and implications?

739
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:36,279
Speaker 2: Certainly not in football. No, it's been a minute, but

740
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:38,920
Speaker 2: that's the game to watch in two weeks. The winner

741
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:41,240
Speaker 2: between Duke and Virginia puts himself in a great position

742
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 2: to get to that title game. But beyond them, you're

743
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:46,959
Speaker 2: looking at Louisville, who still has a shot. Maybe less

744
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 2: so now with Isac Brown going down, but Jeff Brom's

745
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 2: a good coach.

746
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:51,520
Speaker 1: We'll see what he can scheme up.

747
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:55,200
Speaker 2: SMU is still in the hunt with four and one

748
00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:58,440
Speaker 2: their record being in the ACC, they would need some help,

749
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:02,000
Speaker 2: and pitt It would need a lot more help. But

750
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:05,400
Speaker 2: pitt sits currently at five to one in the ACC,

751
00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:07,200
Speaker 2: and if they keep winning in the manner that they

752
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:09,520
Speaker 2: are and get some help along the way, there's a

753
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:13,200
Speaker 2: real chance that they could find their way up a

754
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:15,400
Speaker 2: little bit higher in these standings, to say the least.

755
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Speaker 1: So pitt is one five straight lost by a touchdown

756
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:23,000
Speaker 1: to both Louisville and West Virginia, but that's the West

757
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:25,920
Speaker 1: Virginia game, does not alter anything in the ACC, and

758
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 1: Pitt gets a bye before they're crazy stretch at the end.

759
00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:31,280
Speaker 1: So at least there's that It's Notre Dame at Georgia

760
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:34,959
Speaker 1: Tech and Miami for Pitt. Yeah, who's been a really

761
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:38,200
Speaker 1: nice story this season, regardless of what happened. So yeah,

762
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Speaker 1: that would be the most difficult road within the ACC regardless.

763
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Speaker 1: I mean, the Notre Dame element just affects there. I

764
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:48,279
Speaker 1: guess potential playoff consideration sure, but within the ACC, that's

765
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Speaker 1: just it's a tough stretch.

766
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:51,440
Speaker 2: It is a tough stretch, and you know, just to

767
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:53,880
Speaker 2: be complete, Yeah, I can talk through the Big Ten

768
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:56,799
Speaker 2: because there are six teams in the Big Ten. Way,

769
00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:01,920
Speaker 2: Organ's roads not great. Organ's road is not great at all. Yeah,

770
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 2: but what you are looking for if you are a

771
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:09,880
Speaker 2: fan of a team other than Ohio State or Indiana. Now, obviously,

772
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:12,879
Speaker 2: if one of those two teams loses, that would open

773
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:15,279
Speaker 2: up the door for some of the other schools that

774
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:18,320
Speaker 2: I've got listed here, Oregon, Michigan, Iowa, USC.

775
00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:21,160
Speaker 1: Michigan controls their path.

776
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:25,080
Speaker 2: Yes, Michigan basically controls everybody's path at this point.

777
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:28,960
Speaker 1: So Michigan wins out and they're in. If Michigan were

778
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 1: able to win.

779
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:33,799
Speaker 2: Out, I think they would have a pretty good chance

780
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:37,880
Speaker 2: of getting into that game. Yeah all right, But the

781
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:42,040
Speaker 2: one that I think everybody is looking at with specific

782
00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:44,800
Speaker 2: regard to the Big Ten title game is that Michigan

783
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:46,799
Speaker 2: Ohio State game, which it always seems to come down

784
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:49,480
Speaker 2: to Michigan versus Ohios team. Sure, you know games in

785
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:51,480
Speaker 2: ann Arbor this year, right, game is in ann Arbor.

786
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 2: You could, I think, make a very easy case that

787
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:57,360
Speaker 2: Michigan's a much better team this year than they were last.

788
00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:00,480
Speaker 2: They still found a way to get the job done

789
00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:05,200
Speaker 2: a year ago. Michigan is not a slam dunk to

790
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:08,480
Speaker 2: get into that game if they went out, okay, because

791
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:10,160
Speaker 2: the don't need help, they would still need a little

792
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:12,000
Speaker 2: bit of help if they were to win out. And

793
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:14,359
Speaker 2: if everything else were to play out according to projections,

794
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:18,360
Speaker 2: your Big Ten title game would be Indiana against Oregon,

795
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:22,920
Speaker 2: a rematch. Oh okay, all right, So Michigan would probably

796
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:25,839
Speaker 2: need Oregon to drop one at some point along the way.

797
00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:31,800
Speaker 2: Or there is also this added complexity of conference opponent

798
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:37,600
Speaker 2: win percentage. Oh, right, that could somehow go in Michigan's

799
00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:40,080
Speaker 2: favor depending on how the way the rest of like

800
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:44,400
Speaker 2: Oregon's season and Oregon's opponents seasons play out. This is

801
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:46,359
Speaker 2: where you get this weird voodoo that we can't really

802
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:49,400
Speaker 2: talk about here because it would take seven hours. But

803
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:52,520
Speaker 2: let's just say if Michigan beats Ohio State, a lot

804
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:57,120
Speaker 2: of possibilities open up, including USC finding their way into

805
00:42:57,160 --> 00:43:00,560
Speaker 2: the title game, Iowa finding their way into game if

806
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:02,160
Speaker 2: they mysteriously went out.

807
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:05,400
Speaker 1: Two non conference losses USC to Notre Dame in Iowa

808
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:06,279
Speaker 1: against Iowa State.

809
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:09,280
Speaker 2: That's right, So there is a lot that could still

810
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 2: happen in the Big Ten. I don't think any of

811
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:14,960
Speaker 2: that's likely. I think it's possible. For sure, it's possible.

812
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:18,080
Speaker 2: We have to consider that Michigan could do it again

813
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:20,760
Speaker 2: against Ohio State, especially with the game being in ann Arbor.

814
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 2: I don't want to take that one off the table,

815
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:27,359
Speaker 2: but I'm almost ready to. But yeah, yeah, well I'm

816
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 2: almost there with the way that Ohio State. Look, but

817
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:32,359
Speaker 2: you said the same thing last year. I've been there before, right,

818
00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:36,440
Speaker 2: So I don't want to handwave of that as an impossibility,

819
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:39,160
Speaker 2: but just know that if you want there to be

820
00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:41,439
Speaker 2: some other scenarios opening up in the Big ten.

821
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:43,399
Speaker 1: You need to be a Michigan fan in that final

822
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:48,680
Speaker 1: week of the year. Yeah, Okay. Oregon, by the way,

823
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:51,759
Speaker 1: in terms of path in November, because Ohio State and

824
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:55,800
Speaker 1: Indiana are pretty good. USC's is decent, not amazing. Oregon's

825
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:58,520
Speaker 1: path in November. They're at Iowa this week and then

826
00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 1: immediately have a short win and take on Minnesota coming

827
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:03,719
Speaker 1: off of a Minnesota is coming off of a bye.

828
00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:06,360
Speaker 1: That's a Friday night in Eugene. Yeah, they get USC

829
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:07,960
Speaker 1: and Eugene, and then they're on the road in the

830
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:09,640
Speaker 1: rivalry game against Washington.

831
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Speaker 2: It's tough, man, that's a tough, tough road.

832
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:14,239
Speaker 1: I think Oregon's better than those teams, but just in

833
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:16,759
Speaker 1: terms of the back to back to back to back,

834
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:17,360
Speaker 1: it's tough.

835
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Speaker 2: We're gonna preview two games on today's episode, Dan Early

836
00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:22,960
Speaker 2: Bird Special.

837
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:26,160
Speaker 1: The first is at high noon on ABC.

838
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Speaker 2: It is number eight BYU it is number nine Texas Tech.

839
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Speaker 2: The Red Raiders, as I said earlier, are favored by

840
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:40,760
Speaker 2: a staggering, staggering ten and a half points.

841
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:43,759
Speaker 1: Dan, that's a lot of potatoes. That has a lot

842
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:46,279
Speaker 1: of potatoes. My man, that's a big number against an

843
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:47,759
Speaker 1: undefeated top ten team.

844
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Speaker 2: Yeah, so obviously this is a monster game for both

845
00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:56,520
Speaker 2: these teams. Probably a little bit bigger for Texas Tech though.

846
00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:57,800
Speaker 2: And here's why.

847
00:44:58,680 --> 00:44:59,479
Speaker 1: On the heels of what.

848
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:01,640
Speaker 2: We were just talking about with tie breakers and conference

849
00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:05,440
Speaker 2: championship scenarios and all that, if Texas Tech loses, they

850
00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:07,359
Speaker 2: kind of play themselves out of the Big twelve title

851
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:08,120
Speaker 2: chase as a whole.

852
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:13,919
Speaker 1: Like maybe, yeah, likely maybe in all likelihood, Okay, you've

853
00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:15,040
Speaker 1: done more of this math than I have.

854
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:17,400
Speaker 2: I think at all likelihood, they kind of play themselves

855
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:23,040
Speaker 2: out of this thing. Okay, they could technically still get

856
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:24,400
Speaker 2: back to the title game, they would just need a

857
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:27,440
Speaker 2: lot more help. And I think on top of that,

858
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:30,839
Speaker 2: if you lose here, you're probably on the outside looking

859
00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:32,840
Speaker 2: in with that playoff because suddenly got a bunch of

860
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:34,760
Speaker 2: teams that are going to be losing their second game.

861
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:38,680
Speaker 2: You're suddenly into that big old mishmash of ten and

862
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:41,399
Speaker 2: two schools that you know you don't want to leave

863
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:43,759
Speaker 2: it up to the committee unless you have to, right,

864
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:46,320
Speaker 2: So this one means a lot for Texas Tech. BYU,

865
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:49,239
Speaker 2: by the way, could still lose this game. And find

866
00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:51,520
Speaker 2: their way into the title chase and find their way

867
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:54,360
Speaker 2: into the playoff. Right They're undefeated right now, but Texas

868
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:56,440
Speaker 2: Tech isn't. They lost that game on the road to

869
00:45:56,520 --> 00:45:57,560
Speaker 2: Arizona State, so this.

870
00:45:57,520 --> 00:45:59,680
Speaker 1: Is a big deal. And Texas Tech, by the way,

871
00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:04,000
Speaker 1: doesn't have the signature like non conference moment that some

872
00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 1: other schools they might be compared with perhaps have, I

873
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:10,880
Speaker 1: think the Arkansas Pine Bluff, Kent State, Oregon State. That's right.

874
00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:13,880
Speaker 2: I'm trying to figure out why this point spread is

875
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:14,920
Speaker 2: ten and a half though.

876
00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:18,600
Speaker 1: I'll tell you why. Texas Tech I think is the

877
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:21,080
Speaker 1: surest wagering team in America right now.

878
00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:24,920
Speaker 2: Right they're eighty nine percent against the point spread. So

879
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:28,399
Speaker 2: the numbers have not been high enough. As Texas Tech

880
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:32,520
Speaker 2: has been favored basically all year long. I think that's why,

881
00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:35,319
Speaker 2: and that BYU hasn't necessarily been a great performer on

882
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:37,720
Speaker 2: the road. They started out terribly against Iowa State.

883
00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:40,759
Speaker 1: They went to they want them, they won, they won.

884
00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:45,440
Speaker 1: But I'm saying the degree the magnitude with which they

885
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:49,160
Speaker 1: play on the road versus at home in Provo, it's

886
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:52,920
Speaker 1: just different. Overtime, double overtime or whatever against Arizona, right.

887
00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:56,080
Speaker 2: I mean they've beaten three teams close win against Colorado

888
00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:58,560
Speaker 2: with winning records on the road, and not a lot

889
00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:00,000
Speaker 2: of other teams out there have done that.

890
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:03,080
Speaker 1: Winning as a skill, it's a good way to win.

891
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:06,520
Speaker 1: Texas Tech has been comfortably winning on the road as

892
00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:10,600
Speaker 1: recently as like three days ago. Right, yeah, sure against

893
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:12,920
Speaker 1: a decent enough Kansas State team, not a great Kansas

894
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:15,920
Speaker 1: State team, but Texas Tech takes care of business in

895
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:19,959
Speaker 1: a way that BYU hasn't. BYU is really good. I'm

896
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:22,080
Speaker 1: just telling you that why the number might be where

897
00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:26,480
Speaker 1: it is, This is not an evaluation of BYU's quality.

898
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:27,640
Speaker 1: I went back.

899
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:29,759
Speaker 2: I re ran this one through the computer, which, by

900
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:32,000
Speaker 2: the way, we are going to start calling these TPS reports.

901
00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:35,959
Speaker 2: Of course, ties port spread made some tweaks after last week.

902
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:36,800
Speaker 1: I feel better.

903
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:38,919
Speaker 2: About where we're at on the computer side this week,

904
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:43,600
Speaker 2: going into week eleven, I've got this one at Tech

905
00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:46,400
Speaker 2: minus seven and a half. Okay, so ten and a

906
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:48,800
Speaker 2: half feels like a lot to me. I'm not comfortable

907
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:51,000
Speaker 2: given ten and a half points to a team like BYU,

908
00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:54,840
Speaker 2: which is, as we said here, very adaptable. It seems

909
00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:56,799
Speaker 2: like they get better each week. Certainly, that's the case

910
00:47:56,800 --> 00:48:00,400
Speaker 2: for bear Bachmeyer. I've like fully seen the light on

911
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:05,319
Speaker 2: BYU now, I think they're legit. I really like this team.

912
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:06,960
Speaker 2: I like what they're doing, even if I don't fully

913
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:09,239
Speaker 2: understand it all the time. I really like BYU. I

914
00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:12,200
Speaker 2: think they're good. I just think that Texas Tech's a

915
00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:15,000
Speaker 2: little bit better, and I think they end up getting

916
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:16,640
Speaker 2: the win. And I could talk about why, but I've

917
00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:19,000
Speaker 2: got this one somewhere in the neighborhood of like thirty

918
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:20,920
Speaker 2: four to twenty seven Texas Tech at.

919
00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:24,439
Speaker 1: Home, Yeah, I think Texas Tech is better. They're playing

920
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:27,400
Speaker 1: at home. I think the noon kickoff, while sometimes it

921
00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:30,080
Speaker 1: can be sleepy for teams, the fact that game days

922
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:32,800
Speaker 1: there there's gonna be a ton of juice and electricity

923
00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:36,160
Speaker 1: in the stadium. I like Tech to win. I think

924
00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:40,440
Speaker 1: I'm with you. There is something a little bit scary

925
00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:44,000
Speaker 1: to me about whatever the health of LJ. Martin is.

926
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:48,440
Speaker 1: That's a big deal for BYU. He's been terrific for

927
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:51,160
Speaker 1: them this season and as a whole. And when he

928
00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:54,000
Speaker 1: went out against Iowa State, it was all bear Bachmeyer.

929
00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:56,399
Speaker 1: They could not run the ball at all as soon

930
00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:57,840
Speaker 1: as he left the game, and he didn't even do

931
00:48:57,960 --> 00:49:01,480
Speaker 1: much himself against Iowa State on then the last time

932
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:04,600
Speaker 1: we saw BYU. So there is some concern to me

933
00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:07,799
Speaker 1: that we are seeing a first year starter thrust into

934
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:11,160
Speaker 1: this position. Blackmeyer is really good. He's just a pure playmaker.

935
00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:16,080
Speaker 1: He's really fun. But against this Texas Tech defense, this

936
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:18,399
Speaker 1: is very strange for me to say, So I'm gonna

937
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:22,680
Speaker 1: say it more slowly than I normally would. Texas Tech

938
00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:28,120
Speaker 1: defense is the best thing in this game, and I

939
00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:33,359
Speaker 1: don't think it's particularly close. Weird Ty, We've been doing

940
00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:36,239
Speaker 1: the show for like sixteen seventeen years. I've never had

941
00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:38,040
Speaker 1: the opportunity to utter that phrase.

942
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:40,840
Speaker 2: We've been getting a lot of well actually is from

943
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:42,000
Speaker 2: both these fan bases.

944
00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:45,200
Speaker 1: Actually that's fine. That just means everybody's charged up, and

945
00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:51,960
Speaker 1: I love that. I appreciate that capital e engagement. That

946
00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:54,760
Speaker 1: would be the biggest concern for me about BYU's chances

947
00:49:55,000 --> 00:50:00,319
Speaker 1: is Bear Bachmeyer making two, three, four awful pass or

948
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:03,280
Speaker 1: under duress passes that he would love to have back

949
00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:07,160
Speaker 1: against this defense, you know, the overhauled secondary, the overhauled line,

950
00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:09,360
Speaker 1: you know, two really good linebackers and Ben Roberts and

951
00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:14,200
Speaker 1: Jacob Rodriguez. That would be the concern For me, it's

952
00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:16,240
Speaker 1: a matter of how much you believe in the pixie

953
00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:19,080
Speaker 1: dust that is like the BYU magic this year, right,

954
00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:21,839
Speaker 1: because every time they seem to be every time they

955
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:23,440
Speaker 1: seem to have their backs against the wall, they make

956
00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:25,960
Speaker 1: plays and they hold on and they do and they

957
00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:26,960
Speaker 1: find ways to do it.

958
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:28,879
Speaker 2: So, like I pulled out a couple of three things

959
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:31,120
Speaker 2: in particular that I'm watching. I'm not even going to

960
00:50:31,160 --> 00:50:32,719
Speaker 2: say they're the keys to the game, but these are

961
00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:36,200
Speaker 2: the three things that as I watched this game on Saturday,

962
00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:41,239
Speaker 2: I will be most focused on these things, to the

963
00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:45,520
Speaker 2: point of BYU kind of having some pixie dust. BYU

964
00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:49,799
Speaker 2: right now is way better on special teams, way better

965
00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:53,800
Speaker 2: on special teams, especially on kick returns, kick off returns

966
00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:56,640
Speaker 2: and punt returns. They're not out there returning them for touchdowns,

967
00:50:57,520 --> 00:50:59,600
Speaker 2: but they're really good at playing the field position game,

968
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:02,719
Speaker 2: which is where stuff like this tends to creep in.

969
00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:06,360
Speaker 2: Doesn't show up in a box score, but field position

970
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:09,719
Speaker 2: is something that BYU has been great at feasting on

971
00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:13,040
Speaker 2: this year. Okay, this ends up being a one score game,

972
00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:16,680
Speaker 2: like I think it could be, Watch out for field position.

973
00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:19,439
Speaker 2: Watch out what BYU is doing on kick returns, even

974
00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:22,120
Speaker 2: if it's like a twenty five yard kick return doesn't

975
00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:24,319
Speaker 2: go back for anything, but instead gets into the forty

976
00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:27,560
Speaker 2: five yard line instead of their own thirty five. Yeah,

977
00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:30,680
Speaker 2: stuff like that has a real impact in tight games

978
00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:34,880
Speaker 2: like this, potentially like this. That's the first thing. The

979
00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:36,839
Speaker 2: second thing I want to see on the BYU side

980
00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:40,600
Speaker 2: is how they handle As you mentioned Jacob Rodriguez. Also

981
00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:44,880
Speaker 2: throw David Bailey out there. So if you look at

982
00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:47,720
Speaker 2: the profile for this Tech defense so far this season,

983
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:50,640
Speaker 2: these guys have been human wrecking balls.

984
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:52,880
Speaker 1: They forced fumbles. Yeah, of course they have.

985
00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:54,200
Speaker 2: Been wrecking balls in the front.

986
00:51:54,239 --> 00:51:54,520
Speaker 1: Seven.

987
00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:57,279
Speaker 2: Shield Wood their new defensive coordinator, who has had a

988
00:51:57,280 --> 00:52:00,080
Speaker 2: lot of success so far this year for Tech. He

989
00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:02,960
Speaker 2: has been great at scheming them into positions where they

990
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:05,160
Speaker 2: can make big plays, almost like you would scheme a

991
00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:08,520
Speaker 2: wide receiver open. He has been finding ways to get

992
00:52:08,520 --> 00:52:11,879
Speaker 2: the line to eat up space to get these guys

993
00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:14,200
Speaker 2: to play downhill and make some of these havoc plays.

994
00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:16,719
Speaker 2: So to your point from earlier, if there is an

995
00:52:16,719 --> 00:52:19,880
Speaker 2: issue with LJ. Martin, if they're able to key even

996
00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:23,600
Speaker 2: more on bear Bachmeyer, God, I've gotten beyond the point

997
00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:27,399
Speaker 2: of saying he's a freshman because we're in November now, right,

998
00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:30,200
Speaker 2: he's been the starting quarterback the whole year. There are

999
00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:32,600
Speaker 2: definitely going to be some scenarios on the road just

1000
00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:34,799
Speaker 2: in general that he hasn't seen yet. He's got a

1001
00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:37,920
Speaker 2: lot of learning to do, but for sure he's been

1002
00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:40,520
Speaker 2: pretty good this year. But what does it look like

1003
00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:45,000
Speaker 2: if Jacob Rodriguez, David Belly really all the playmakers on

1004
00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:46,960
Speaker 2: this Tech defense are able to put him in the

1005
00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:49,720
Speaker 2: crosshairs and he is the main focus. I don't know sure,

1006
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:53,160
Speaker 2: all right, especially on the road. That's the second thing.

1007
00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:55,600
Speaker 2: And then the third is I need to know what

1008
00:52:55,640 --> 00:52:59,640
Speaker 2: BYU looks like defensively trying to handle this Texas Tech

1009
00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:03,040
Speaker 2: running game. Talk about something else entire game to me, Yeah,

1010
00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:05,040
Speaker 2: talk about something else. We need to say slowly, I know,

1011
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:05,480
Speaker 2: I know.

1012
00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:05,759
Speaker 1: TODG.

1013
00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:07,880
Speaker 2: Brooks was there for a while and he was very successful,

1014
00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:11,560
Speaker 2: but we're not exactly used to talking about Texas Tech

1015
00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:17,080
Speaker 2: as like a dynamic ground team. This is like a

1016
00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:21,040
Speaker 2: top fifteen caliber defense for BYU relatively speaking, though, the

1017
00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:22,719
Speaker 2: rush defense is the weakness.

1018
00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:24,719
Speaker 1: I mean, the past couple of years, Texas Tech has

1019
00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:25,680
Speaker 1: been a ground team.

1020
00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:28,480
Speaker 2: Todge Brooks, but yeah, they have been very good on

1021
00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:31,240
Speaker 2: the ground with Todge Brooks, But for the vast majority

1022
00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:32,760
Speaker 2: of the time that we have talked about the Red Raiders,

1023
00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:34,640
Speaker 2: we've not talked about them round team.

1024
00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:36,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, this has been but as soon as they realized

1025
00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:37,240
Speaker 1: they were they got.

1026
00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:39,759
Speaker 2: Better, and they did get better. Yeah. I'm still not

1027
00:53:39,840 --> 00:53:41,320
Speaker 2: used to it though, So give me a minute.

1028
00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:42,320
Speaker 1: Okay, that's fine.

1029
00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:46,680
Speaker 2: This is not to say that BYU is getting pushed

1030
00:53:46,719 --> 00:53:49,520
Speaker 2: around on the ground. They're not getting pushed around on

1031
00:53:49,520 --> 00:53:51,919
Speaker 2: the ground. They're stopping like one out of every five

1032
00:53:52,040 --> 00:53:55,280
Speaker 2: runs dead and inch tracks right, and that's top twenty

1033
00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:58,439
Speaker 2: in the country. So they've been okay. But they're also

1034
00:53:58,600 --> 00:54:02,400
Speaker 2: like eighty first in the country yards allowed before contact.

1035
00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:06,040
Speaker 2: How are both things possible, you might ask. Basically, when

1036
00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:07,960
Speaker 2: you get BYU on the ground, you really get them

1037
00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:10,640
Speaker 2: on the ground. And this, to me is the matchup.

1038
00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:14,120
Speaker 2: This is the whole game. It's a really good Texas

1039
00:54:14,160 --> 00:54:17,960
Speaker 2: Tech offensive line and ground game against a BYU run

1040
00:54:18,040 --> 00:54:21,920
Speaker 2: defense that I have some questions about. If Texas Tech

1041
00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:23,399
Speaker 2: can get going on the ground, I think they win

1042
00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:25,560
Speaker 2: this one. If BYU can find a way to muddy

1043
00:54:25,560 --> 00:54:27,239
Speaker 2: it up, if they can find a way to make

1044
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:30,520
Speaker 2: plays even if it's an offense that's somewhat telegraph with

1045
00:54:30,560 --> 00:54:34,400
Speaker 2: it all being on bear Bachmeier again, you know, then

1046
00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:38,120
Speaker 2: that's a different conversation. But as right now as it

1047
00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:41,759
Speaker 2: stands here, what is this Monday mid day? I've got

1048
00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:43,399
Speaker 2: thirty four to twenty seven Texas Tech.

1049
00:54:44,840 --> 00:54:48,200
Speaker 1: Wow, okay, I by the way, here's a sidebar. This

1050
00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:52,880
Speaker 1: is a double bear quarterback game, kind of bear in

1051
00:54:53,680 --> 00:54:59,080
Speaker 1: and bear. Okay, that's pretty good dose osos Yeah, yeah,

1052
00:54:59,160 --> 00:55:02,520
Speaker 1: I h I think the entire game is BYU's run defense.

1053
00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:06,799
Speaker 1: If BYU successfully wins this game on the road as

1054
00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:09,440
Speaker 1: like a double digit or near double digit dog, I

1055
00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:11,560
Speaker 1: think it's because they forced Baron Morton to try and

1056
00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:13,399
Speaker 1: win this game alone, and I don't think he can.

1057
00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:17,200
Speaker 1: So he has not big game bear, whatever you want

1058
00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:19,160
Speaker 1: to call it. He has not been that guy in

1059
00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:21,800
Speaker 1: the biggest moments for Texas Tech. But if they have

1060
00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:24,120
Speaker 1: a balanced offense, I think Texas Tech will be fine.

1061
00:55:24,520 --> 00:55:28,359
Speaker 1: If BYU forces a ton of third and eight, third

1062
00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:31,920
Speaker 1: and eleven, that's where I think they can really get

1063
00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:34,400
Speaker 1: Texas Tech on the road here and quiet the crowd.

1064
00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:36,759
Speaker 1: But they're going to need that pixie dust as well.

1065
00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:38,919
Speaker 1: What did you say twenty seven to twenty or thirty

1066
00:55:38,920 --> 00:55:41,960
Speaker 1: four to twenty seven something in there? Yep, thirty one

1067
00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:46,160
Speaker 1: twenty four. So I guess I'll have I'll have BYU

1068
00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:48,520
Speaker 1: and take the points because like even last season when

1069
00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:50,920
Speaker 1: BYU was on their run, they lost by four or

1070
00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:53,239
Speaker 1: five points on the road at ASU. I think they

1071
00:55:53,320 --> 00:55:55,759
Speaker 1: had the ugly game against Kansas, but they Kansas didn't

1072
00:55:55,800 --> 00:55:56,680
Speaker 1: run away with that game.

1073
00:55:56,800 --> 00:55:58,839
Speaker 2: I feel like they're really hard to blow out.

1074
00:55:59,080 --> 00:56:01,080
Speaker 1: I think so. I think they're too complete and the

1075
00:56:01,160 --> 00:56:04,440
Speaker 1: roster is too thorough that and too well coached. Yea

1076
00:56:04,560 --> 00:56:08,160
Speaker 1: that yeah, thirty one twenty four. Two Bears one game, Dan,

1077
00:56:08,200 --> 00:56:10,759
Speaker 1: that's where we're at. Two Bears, one game. I mean

1078
00:56:10,760 --> 00:56:13,800
Speaker 1: that it's do poor oss what? They have a vodka?

1079
00:56:13,880 --> 00:56:19,040
Speaker 1: Right the podcast, the two Bears podcast, Yeah, a podka.

1080
00:56:19,680 --> 00:56:24,240
Speaker 1: They have a podka. Okay, continue, So we agree, we agree.

1081
00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:27,359
Speaker 1: Unfortunately for me, three thirty CBS.

1082
00:56:27,400 --> 00:56:31,640
Speaker 2: Your Oregon Ducks on the road in Iowa City against

1083
00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:32,360
Speaker 2: the Hawkeyes.

1084
00:56:33,040 --> 00:56:35,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess I think they're ranked and the coach

1085
00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:37,080
Speaker 1: has but not ap Iowa.

1086
00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:40,880
Speaker 2: But whatever, Oregon is ranked six and they are a

1087
00:56:40,920 --> 00:56:44,839
Speaker 2: six point favorite. Yeah, this point spread caught me off guard.

1088
00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:45,640
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie.

1089
00:56:46,360 --> 00:56:49,560
Speaker 2: OK, really caught me off guard. Then I ran it

1090
00:56:49,600 --> 00:56:53,359
Speaker 2: through the computer and the TPS report was spitting out

1091
00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:57,360
Speaker 2: Oregon minus seven. So we need to unpack why. I

1092
00:56:57,400 --> 00:57:00,080
Speaker 2: need you to tell me why this is a real

1093
00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:02,240
Speaker 2: good Iowa defense. Stop me if you've heard this before.

1094
00:57:03,719 --> 00:57:08,400
Speaker 2: They play relatively slow, They don't shoot themselves in the foot.

1095
00:57:09,080 --> 00:57:12,040
Speaker 2: They also don't offer much of any pop through the air.

1096
00:57:12,600 --> 00:57:14,520
Speaker 2: But they are going to try to beat your brains

1097
00:57:14,520 --> 00:57:16,960
Speaker 2: in on the ground, and they're well coached. This is

1098
00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:19,400
Speaker 2: a team that dam near beat Indiana with this exact

1099
00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:26,320
Speaker 2: same template. So my big question to you, can a

1100
00:57:27,200 --> 00:57:31,600
Speaker 2: very one dimensional Iowa offense with a top five caliber

1101
00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:37,600
Speaker 2: defense be enough to beat Oregon and have maybe the

1102
00:57:37,640 --> 00:57:38,680
Speaker 2: biggest upset of the weekend.

1103
00:57:40,360 --> 00:57:43,120
Speaker 1: It's a very tough ask because I think their ceiling

1104
00:57:43,160 --> 00:57:46,600
Speaker 1: is still pretty low offensively in terms of scoring points

1105
00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:49,680
Speaker 1: against a really good defense, which I think Oregon has.

1106
00:57:50,120 --> 00:57:54,680
Speaker 1: If you look traditionally, Oregon loses games sometimes under Dan

1107
00:57:54,760 --> 00:57:58,400
Speaker 1: Lanning usually, if not every time, I don't remember if

1108
00:57:58,440 --> 00:58:00,960
Speaker 1: there's an exception to this, maybe the Oregon State one

1109
00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:03,360
Speaker 1: from year one. They lose to teams who can throw

1110
00:58:03,400 --> 00:58:06,200
Speaker 1: the ball. They lose to Michael Pennix, they lose to

1111
00:58:06,320 --> 00:58:10,080
Speaker 1: Will Howard and Ohio State this year, Fernando Mendoza. They

1112
00:58:10,880 --> 00:58:15,520
Speaker 1: they have struggled relatively speaking, when they have to defend

1113
00:58:15,520 --> 00:58:19,480
Speaker 1: the entire field and those you know, Washington receivers or

1114
00:58:19,520 --> 00:58:24,120
Speaker 1: the Ohio State receivers, that those are terrific collections of

1115
00:58:24,200 --> 00:58:28,160
Speaker 1: game changing wideouts and passing games. I don't know if

1116
00:58:28,200 --> 00:58:32,720
Speaker 1: that's how people would describe the Iowa offense right that

1117
00:58:34,200 --> 00:58:36,640
Speaker 1: there has to be that ability to score twenty seven

1118
00:58:36,640 --> 00:58:39,760
Speaker 1: to thirty one points something like that against Oregon, and

1119
00:58:39,840 --> 00:58:42,880
Speaker 1: I just don't think Iowa scores that number. Now. Can

1120
00:58:42,920 --> 00:58:46,120
Speaker 1: Oregon's offense go into a shell like they did against

1121
00:58:46,200 --> 00:58:49,320
Speaker 1: Indiana and struggle and turn the ball over, And you know,

1122
00:58:49,360 --> 00:58:52,120
Speaker 1: Dante Moore may have broken his nose or something against Wisconsin.

1123
00:58:52,120 --> 00:58:54,160
Speaker 1: I'm sure he'll be playing and starting in this game

1124
00:58:54,960 --> 00:58:59,240
Speaker 1: against a tough turnover forcing defense in Iowa and lose

1125
00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:02,440
Speaker 1: this game fourteen to ten, thirteen eleven. I don't know,

1126
00:59:02,480 --> 00:59:06,400
Speaker 1: take your pick of like weird scoreagami numbers. It's possible,

1127
00:59:06,440 --> 00:59:09,680
Speaker 1: it's in the realm of possibilities. I just don't think

1128
00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:12,480
Speaker 1: you can be this one dimensional on the ground and

1129
00:59:12,560 --> 00:59:16,040
Speaker 1: expect to score three touchdowns against this Oregon team. I

1130
00:59:16,040 --> 00:59:18,560
Speaker 1: don't love Oregon's linebackers. I think they might struggle some

1131
00:59:18,680 --> 00:59:20,560
Speaker 1: for a stretch in this game against the running game.

1132
00:59:21,560 --> 00:59:24,120
Speaker 1: But I just think it's too much to ask that

1133
00:59:24,280 --> 00:59:28,360
Speaker 1: Iowa can win this game and like be confident that

1134
00:59:28,400 --> 00:59:30,000
Speaker 1: this is going to be a thirteen to ten game,

1135
00:59:30,160 --> 00:59:32,439
Speaker 1: because I think that's the only way Iowa truly wins

1136
00:59:32,440 --> 00:59:35,320
Speaker 1: this game. So I think I'm going to take Oregon

1137
00:59:35,360 --> 00:59:38,360
Speaker 1: winning and not covering, because again, this is an Iowa

1138
00:59:38,440 --> 00:59:40,800
Speaker 1: defense at home as a dog in a tough place

1139
00:59:40,840 --> 00:59:44,200
Speaker 1: to play, which as a Penn State alum, you fully

1140
00:59:44,280 --> 00:59:48,200
Speaker 1: know that going to Iowa City and winning a game.

1141
00:59:47,960 --> 00:59:50,680
Speaker 2: We don't talk about that here now.

1142
00:59:51,360 --> 00:59:53,160
Speaker 1: The other thing is it's been a weird year for

1143
00:59:53,240 --> 00:59:56,360
Speaker 1: Iowa football, right. They kept it close against Indiana. They

1144
00:59:56,560 --> 00:59:58,960
Speaker 1: likely should have lost to a James Franklin and Drew

1145
00:59:59,000 --> 01:00:02,600
Speaker 1: aller Liss Penn State eight at home. They should have

1146
01:00:02,720 --> 01:00:04,440
Speaker 1: lost that game. They pulled it out. And that's what

1147
01:00:04,520 --> 01:00:07,919
Speaker 1: you know, decent to good teams do. It's what it's

1148
01:00:08,080 --> 01:00:12,320
Speaker 1: Cayden weitchin the like all purpose, big time weapon for

1149
01:00:12,720 --> 01:00:15,400
Speaker 1: Iowa that he's worried someome. Of course, if you're an

1150
01:00:15,400 --> 01:00:22,960
Speaker 1: Oregon fan, I think if Oregon commits fewer than two turnovers,

1151
01:00:23,400 --> 01:00:26,080
Speaker 1: it's gonna be very difficult to beat them, even at home.

1152
01:00:26,520 --> 01:00:29,400
Speaker 1: So I have the final score something very similar to

1153
01:00:29,440 --> 01:00:35,080
Speaker 1: what the Indiana game was, twenty to fourteen eighteen, thirteen eighteen,

1154
01:00:35,720 --> 01:00:40,320
Speaker 1: you know, fourteen, something like that. If Oregon's able to score,

1155
01:00:40,680 --> 01:00:45,240
Speaker 1: I guess their cover number would be twenty seven, right

1156
01:00:46,480 --> 01:00:48,840
Speaker 1: like twenty four to twenty. Say, if they can score

1157
01:00:48,880 --> 01:00:50,640
Speaker 1: twenty four to twenty seven points, I think they cover

1158
01:00:50,720 --> 01:00:53,520
Speaker 1: this line. So I think it's just an ugly factor.

1159
01:00:53,800 --> 01:00:55,920
Speaker 1: Is what's that play here? So I'm gonna take the points.

1160
01:00:56,280 --> 01:01:00,600
Speaker 1: My final is twenty to fourteen. Okay, you have a number.

1161
01:01:01,240 --> 01:01:04,640
Speaker 1: I do before I give it to.

1162
01:01:04,640 --> 01:01:06,880
Speaker 2: You, though, I want to offer some other thoughts.

1163
01:01:07,200 --> 01:01:07,520
Speaker 1: Please.

1164
01:01:09,600 --> 01:01:10,880
Speaker 2: I want you to know that I love you like

1165
01:01:10,880 --> 01:01:11,280
Speaker 2: a brother.

1166
01:01:11,800 --> 01:01:16,520
Speaker 1: Okay. I appreciate that this is a.

1167
01:01:16,480 --> 01:01:22,160
Speaker 2: Content business, though we're in the content here. Yeah, and

1168
01:01:23,280 --> 01:01:26,400
Speaker 2: I see this as a prime content opportunity for this business,

1169
01:01:26,800 --> 01:01:28,400
Speaker 2: of which we are partners.

1170
01:01:29,040 --> 01:01:31,240
Speaker 1: I also am doing this to prove that I.

1171
01:01:31,360 --> 01:01:37,040
Speaker 2: Can jinx any team anytime, anywhere. Okay, So I've got

1172
01:01:37,080 --> 01:01:39,360
Speaker 2: Oregon winning by a twenty four to fourteen score, and

1173
01:01:39,440 --> 01:01:40,960
Speaker 2: let's lock it up, dan Oh.

1174
01:01:41,000 --> 01:01:45,840
Speaker 1: I like that lock of the week. So what is

1175
01:01:45,880 --> 01:01:48,440
Speaker 1: it about this matchup? That field makes you feel in

1176
01:01:48,520 --> 01:01:51,280
Speaker 1: your loins tie? And I don't often talk about your

1177
01:01:51,320 --> 01:01:54,280
Speaker 1: loins all the time. Yeah, in your loins, You're like,

1178
01:01:54,600 --> 01:01:57,320
Speaker 1: this is it's just going to be an impossible mountain

1179
01:01:57,360 --> 01:01:58,320
Speaker 1: for Iowa to climb.

1180
01:01:58,800 --> 01:02:02,800
Speaker 2: I think the one tomsnal nature of the offense can

1181
01:02:02,920 --> 01:02:06,720
Speaker 2: work against a bunch of teams in college football. I

1182
01:02:06,800 --> 01:02:10,480
Speaker 2: don't feel like it can work against Oregon. I really don't.

1183
01:02:10,760 --> 01:02:13,479
Speaker 2: I think they are too good on defense. I think

1184
01:02:13,560 --> 01:02:16,280
Speaker 2: everything is going to be so telegraphed. Even though Iowa

1185
01:02:16,520 --> 01:02:20,440
Speaker 2: is really well coached, and even though from afar it

1186
01:02:20,560 --> 01:02:22,919
Speaker 2: seems as though it should be easy to stop them,

1187
01:02:23,320 --> 01:02:25,919
Speaker 2: Iowa and Kirk Farns have proven time and again over

1188
01:02:25,960 --> 01:02:29,560
Speaker 2: his tenure that even though it seems very simple, there

1189
01:02:29,600 --> 01:02:32,280
Speaker 2: is a lot more nuance to it than meets the eye.

1190
01:02:32,440 --> 01:02:34,800
Speaker 2: And so it actually is harder to prepare for this

1191
01:02:34,880 --> 01:02:38,200
Speaker 2: Iowa team than many would expect. If you ever wonder

1192
01:02:38,280 --> 01:02:40,400
Speaker 2: why are they, how are they doing this? How are they?

1193
01:02:41,280 --> 01:02:42,439
Speaker 1: It's actually not that easy.

1194
01:02:42,440 --> 01:02:45,640
Speaker 2: To prepare for Iowa because the complexities with how they

1195
01:02:45,760 --> 01:02:47,360
Speaker 2: run the ball, with how they like to do things.

1196
01:02:48,000 --> 01:02:50,440
Speaker 2: So you look at what Iowa has done so far

1197
01:02:50,480 --> 01:02:53,800
Speaker 2: this season. They've got like four ball carriers that average

1198
01:02:53,840 --> 01:02:57,760
Speaker 2: at least five yards per carry. They're outstanding on the ground.

1199
01:02:59,080 --> 01:03:02,240
Speaker 2: So I think they're very good at doing that part

1200
01:03:02,280 --> 01:03:04,720
Speaker 2: of it. But I think you need to do more

1201
01:03:04,800 --> 01:03:06,840
Speaker 2: than just that. If you want to cover against Oregon,

1202
01:03:07,840 --> 01:03:10,800
Speaker 2: you just do. Oregon is too deep defensively, and I

1203
01:03:10,800 --> 01:03:12,760
Speaker 2: still think they're too good on an offense. I think

1204
01:03:12,760 --> 01:03:15,000
Speaker 2: they have so many playmakers that can find a way

1205
01:03:15,000 --> 01:03:18,200
Speaker 2: to get into that end zone that I am just

1206
01:03:18,240 --> 01:03:19,920
Speaker 2: not buying the fact that they're going to go to

1207
01:03:19,960 --> 01:03:22,880
Speaker 2: Iowa City and be completely shut out, which is essentially

1208
01:03:22,880 --> 01:03:24,760
Speaker 2: what iowad needs to happen. I would needs to win

1209
01:03:24,840 --> 01:03:31,640
Speaker 2: this game like seventeen fifteen, nineteen sixteen, something like that,

1210
01:03:31,640 --> 01:03:35,120
Speaker 2: that requires like four field goals if they're going to

1211
01:03:35,120 --> 01:03:37,800
Speaker 2: pull an upset like this, and I just don't know

1212
01:03:37,840 --> 01:03:40,640
Speaker 2: how they score the points. And I don't think that

1213
01:03:40,840 --> 01:03:43,920
Speaker 2: defensively they're going to be good enough to contain Oregon

1214
01:03:43,960 --> 01:03:46,720
Speaker 2: for sixty minutes. Now, famous last words, we've heard.

1215
01:03:46,520 --> 01:03:48,919
Speaker 1: That struggled with k Tron Allen, by the way, when

1216
01:03:49,240 --> 01:03:52,000
Speaker 1: the passing game was not going to be anything of note,

1217
01:03:52,000 --> 01:03:53,480
Speaker 1: with then Ethan Grunke and myrown Penn State.

1218
01:03:53,640 --> 01:03:57,360
Speaker 2: Absolutely absolutely so. I'm just looking at this and we

1219
01:03:57,440 --> 01:03:59,800
Speaker 2: often talk a lot on the show about who's got

1220
01:03:59,800 --> 01:04:02,000
Speaker 2: more ways to win. I mean, Oregon clearly has more

1221
01:04:02,040 --> 01:04:04,680
Speaker 2: ways to win. They have more ways to win, and

1222
01:04:04,720 --> 01:04:08,840
Speaker 2: I think this could also start off a really pivotal

1223
01:04:08,840 --> 01:04:10,720
Speaker 2: stretch for Oregon. Right they were on a bye week

1224
01:04:10,960 --> 01:04:15,080
Speaker 2: a week ago, didn't play, but now entering this final

1225
01:04:15,120 --> 01:04:18,040
Speaker 2: home stretch here, they've got not only a lot to

1226
01:04:18,080 --> 01:04:22,520
Speaker 2: play for, I think in terms of probabilities, it's a

1227
01:04:22,520 --> 01:04:25,560
Speaker 2: playoff spot. It's not a big ten title appearance, right,

1228
01:04:25,760 --> 01:04:28,240
Speaker 2: but it is not an easy road. And so what

1229
01:04:28,400 --> 01:04:32,080
Speaker 2: better way to get yourself amped and ready to go

1230
01:04:32,880 --> 01:04:35,160
Speaker 2: and in the proper headspace to make this push than

1231
01:04:35,240 --> 01:04:36,880
Speaker 2: to go on the road and beat a team like Iowa,

1232
01:04:36,880 --> 01:04:39,440
Speaker 2: which could be an ugly affair. If it were up

1233
01:04:39,480 --> 01:04:42,439
Speaker 2: to Iowa, it certainly would be knock them down, drag

1234
01:04:42,520 --> 01:04:45,640
Speaker 2: them out, make it ugly, control the ball for forty minutes,

1235
01:04:45,680 --> 01:04:47,240
Speaker 2: and see what Oregon can do when they have it.

1236
01:04:47,280 --> 01:04:50,800
Speaker 2: But I'm just not buying the fact that IOWA was

1237
01:04:50,840 --> 01:04:52,480
Speaker 2: going to be able to totally shut these guys down.

1238
01:04:52,520 --> 01:04:54,640
Speaker 2: So I've got twenty four to fourteen. I'm locking it up.

1239
01:04:54,920 --> 01:04:58,280
Speaker 2: By the way, the offer stands, which is, which is

1240
01:04:58,480 --> 01:05:01,240
Speaker 2: if I am wrong again about this one, as all

1241
01:05:01,280 --> 01:05:02,920
Speaker 2: the locks have been this year, I think I had

1242
01:05:03,000 --> 01:05:06,080
Speaker 2: gotten every single lock wrong, with the exception of.

1243
01:05:06,040 --> 01:05:07,280
Speaker 1: One maybe back in Week two.

1244
01:05:07,840 --> 01:05:10,440
Speaker 2: Okay, I've truly been a tour toive force of this

1245
01:05:10,480 --> 01:05:13,200
Speaker 2: is your charity offer. Yes, this is the charity offer.

1246
01:05:13,200 --> 01:05:15,120
Speaker 2: And I'm almost doing this as a proof of concept

1247
01:05:15,120 --> 01:05:18,720
Speaker 2: for people. Yeah, because if IOWA were to either cover

1248
01:05:18,800 --> 01:05:22,280
Speaker 2: this spread or end up winning the game outright, is

1249
01:05:22,320 --> 01:05:25,240
Speaker 2: this not like one of the bigger jinxes that I've

1250
01:05:25,280 --> 01:05:26,400
Speaker 2: had so far this season?

1251
01:05:27,240 --> 01:05:30,240
Speaker 1: Potentially? If it is, it absolutely is. I'll give you

1252
01:05:30,240 --> 01:05:32,760
Speaker 1: one more wrinkle, by the way, please that would go

1253
01:05:32,800 --> 01:05:36,160
Speaker 1: against Oregon right now. If you're an Oregon fan, I

1254
01:05:36,200 --> 01:05:41,280
Speaker 1: would really really hope that this has been a week

1255
01:05:41,400 --> 01:05:47,880
Speaker 1: of punt coverage focus. IOWA is either the best or

1256
01:05:47,880 --> 01:05:52,160
Speaker 1: like one of the best three punt return teams in America.

1257
01:05:53,040 --> 01:05:56,240
Speaker 1: And so you look at how IOWA confined points, short fields,

1258
01:05:56,320 --> 01:06:00,680
Speaker 1: or returns could absolutely be away against Oregon, So that

1259
01:06:00,920 --> 01:06:02,120
Speaker 1: would be the other thing I would.

1260
01:06:01,880 --> 01:06:06,640
Speaker 2: Throw in if this jinx comes to fruition again, cliverbletgmail

1261
01:06:06,680 --> 01:06:09,640
Speaker 2: dot com. Sub meet your application, let me know which

1262
01:06:09,680 --> 01:06:13,240
Speaker 2: of your opponents you'd like me to jinx. I will

1263
01:06:13,280 --> 01:06:15,280
Speaker 2: pick my favorite application.

1264
01:06:14,880 --> 01:06:15,440
Speaker 1: And let you know.

1265
01:06:16,680 --> 01:06:22,000
Speaker 2: And then, as I guess a step of goodwill, I'm

1266
01:06:22,040 --> 01:06:24,360
Speaker 2: going to require a donation to a charity Locks of Love,

1267
01:06:26,120 --> 01:06:28,040
Speaker 2: and then I will do your jinxing.

1268
01:06:28,200 --> 01:06:30,840
Speaker 1: Okay, your taxes, I will do it. Yes, I will

1269
01:06:30,840 --> 01:06:33,520
Speaker 1: not do your tax now, but yeah, you'll do your parents'

1270
01:06:33,560 --> 01:06:34,120
Speaker 1: tech support.

1271
01:06:34,200 --> 01:06:37,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, bet on Iowa if you're out there, Okay.

1272
01:06:37,280 --> 01:06:40,040
Speaker 1: All right, there you go. Because of this luck, we disagree.

1273
01:06:40,160 --> 01:06:43,000
Speaker 2: Week eleven looks very interesting to me. These are not

1274
01:06:43,080 --> 01:06:46,080
Speaker 2: the only two games not by a long shot. Indiana,

1275
01:06:46,280 --> 01:06:50,120
Speaker 2: the aforementioned Hoosiers are on the road at Penn State Dan.

1276
01:06:50,160 --> 01:06:52,400
Speaker 2: This game is high noon on Fox. They're about a

1277
01:06:52,480 --> 01:06:55,600
Speaker 2: fourteen and a half point favorite. We've also got Georgia,

1278
01:06:55,680 --> 01:06:58,400
Speaker 2: another top five team on the road, this one against

1279
01:06:58,440 --> 01:07:02,919
Speaker 2: Mississippi State. Never count Mississippi State out, not this year.

1280
01:07:03,400 --> 01:07:04,440
Speaker 2: It's a weird season.

1281
01:07:05,560 --> 01:07:06,600
Speaker 1: Three point thirty on ABC.

1282
01:07:06,680 --> 01:07:08,720
Speaker 2: We got Texas A and M on the road at Missou.

1283
01:07:09,320 --> 01:07:10,520
Speaker 1: We've also got.

1284
01:07:10,520 --> 01:07:15,160
Speaker 2: Iowa TCU, Syracuse, Miami, Duke, Iowa State TCU, Iowa State TC,

1285
01:07:15,320 --> 01:07:18,760
Speaker 2: Iowa State TC excuse me, Duke Yukon, which I think

1286
01:07:18,800 --> 01:07:22,400
Speaker 2: could be weirdly interesting and going bowling. I believe, Yeah,

1287
01:07:22,640 --> 01:07:24,920
Speaker 2: Yukon's not bad, man. They're not as good as I hoped,

1288
01:07:24,960 --> 01:07:27,520
Speaker 2: but they're not bad, right correct. And then we got

1289
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Speaker 2: Washington now cracking back into the top twenty five. They're

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Speaker 2: a ten and a half point favorite on the road

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Speaker 2: against Wisconsin.

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Speaker 1: Okay. Interesting. And then your nightcap, we've got LSU Alabama.

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Speaker 2: It's weird that we're not previewing LSUB Alabama as part

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01:07:40,640 --> 01:07:42,320
Speaker 2: of this episode to try to pick out some of

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01:07:42,360 --> 01:07:45,280
Speaker 2: the biggest games and give you an advanced look ahead.

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01:07:45,320 --> 01:07:47,880
Speaker 2: But Elsie just fired its coach.

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Speaker 1: Double bites favorite Alabama and.

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Speaker 2: His ten and a half point favorite. We got the

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Speaker 2: Florida Clemson game, Florida State, Florida State clubs. Again, you're

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01:07:56,440 --> 01:07:59,280
Speaker 2: leaving out states left and right. You jinx Oregon all

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01:07:59,520 --> 01:08:01,200
Speaker 2: you can do every I think you can't to Jink's Oregon,

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01:08:01,440 --> 01:08:03,560
Speaker 2: and then you're leaving out states. I needed to drink

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01:08:03,600 --> 01:08:04,840
Speaker 2: my mushroom coffee is what I need.

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01:08:04,920 --> 01:08:05,480
Speaker 1: That's true.

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01:08:06,120 --> 01:08:09,160
Speaker 2: Navy versus Notre Dame, Wake Forest versus Virginia, watch out

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01:08:09,200 --> 01:08:13,520
Speaker 2: for that one. We got Florid duh, thank you on

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01:08:13,560 --> 01:08:16,040
Speaker 2: the road at Kentucky and as you mentioned before, Nebraska

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01:08:16,080 --> 01:08:18,400
Speaker 2: on the road at UCLA at nine pm.

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Speaker 1: Correct, And is it it's Tulane Memphis not nothing now

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01:08:25,400 --> 01:08:29,240
Speaker 1: at that road for a potential G six playoff spot,

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01:08:30,920 --> 01:08:34,639
Speaker 1: Houston UCF. I mentioned UCF having the opportunity to play

1312
01:08:34,760 --> 01:08:39,040
Speaker 1: spoiler in the Big twelve. It's actually like an interest.

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01:08:39,080 --> 01:08:41,400
Speaker 1: I mean, it's sort of going back to an earlier segment.

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01:08:41,439 --> 01:08:45,439
Speaker 1: But it's an interesting stretch for those teams angling for

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01:08:45,520 --> 01:08:49,120
Speaker 1: that G six spot, starting basically this week. This home stretch.

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01:08:49,640 --> 01:08:54,280
Speaker 1: Memphis probably has the most difficult with Tulane and Navy.

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01:08:54,320 --> 01:08:56,760
Speaker 1: I think those are both like non Saturday games too,

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01:08:56,800 --> 01:08:58,160
Speaker 1: so I don't know what the rest situation is going

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01:08:58,240 --> 01:09:01,000
Speaker 1: to look like for them. We've got a wild schedule.

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Speaker 1: We mentioned that at Notre Dame, USF at Memphis, and

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01:09:03,920 --> 01:09:08,639
Speaker 1: Army obviously after Championship weekend, But like everybody else in

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01:09:08,680 --> 01:09:12,360
Speaker 1: contention for that spot, USF North Texas, James Madison, San

1323
01:09:12,400 --> 01:09:16,960
Speaker 1: Diego State and Tulane schedule is actually pretty great. It's

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Speaker 1: like the worst stretches are kind of behind those teams.

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01:09:20,960 --> 01:09:22,719
Speaker 1: So those are the teams, Those are the seven teams

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01:09:22,760 --> 01:09:25,680
Speaker 1: right now that that seem to be the closest to

1327
01:09:25,800 --> 01:09:28,880
Speaker 1: that spot. But I you know, I'm gonna give the

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01:09:29,040 --> 01:09:31,880
Speaker 1: nod right now to the American champ with San Diego

1329
01:09:31,880 --> 01:09:34,200
Speaker 1: State at least having the opportunity to draft off the

1330
01:09:34,240 --> 01:09:37,720
Speaker 1: opportunity truck. Should the American just beat itself up going

1331
01:09:37,760 --> 01:09:38,280
Speaker 1: into the end.

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01:09:38,840 --> 01:09:41,439
Speaker 2: What you are looking for, though, if you are a

1333
01:09:41,439 --> 01:09:44,920
Speaker 2: school like in North Texas, is for USF loss, because

1334
01:09:44,920 --> 01:09:48,280
Speaker 2: if you get a USF loss, maybe you get a

1335
01:09:48,840 --> 01:09:53,240
Speaker 2: two lane win this week over Memphis. Suddenly North Texas

1336
01:09:53,280 --> 01:09:56,080
Speaker 2: is finding its way into that title game for sure.

1337
01:09:56,160 --> 01:09:58,400
Speaker 2: But right now it looks like you've got four teams

1338
01:09:58,400 --> 01:10:04,120
Speaker 2: at the very top where almost anything is possible between Memphis, USF,

1339
01:10:04,400 --> 01:10:06,519
Speaker 2: North Texas and even two lane in America.

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Speaker 1: San Diego State AZTECS has a Boise team that I

1341
01:10:09,360 --> 01:10:11,880
Speaker 1: don't believe will have Maddox mattson either. Correct, that was

1342
01:10:11,880 --> 01:10:13,840
Speaker 1: another injury we didn't mention earlier, but he went down

1343
01:10:13,960 --> 01:10:15,320
Speaker 1: very early in that Fresno loss.

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01:10:15,439 --> 01:10:18,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and the way things are shaken out right now,

1345
01:10:18,520 --> 01:10:20,760
Speaker 2: San Diego State looks like it's got an inside track

1346
01:10:20,800 --> 01:10:22,920
Speaker 2: into that Mountain West title game. They're not ranked or

1347
01:10:22,920 --> 01:10:28,920
Speaker 2: anything right now, but this is an interesting situation for

1348
01:10:28,920 --> 01:10:30,439
Speaker 2: Sean Lewis to say the least.

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Speaker 1: Agree.

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01:10:32,640 --> 01:10:35,599
Speaker 2: All Right, that does it for now, Dan, We will

1351
01:10:35,640 --> 01:10:38,160
Speaker 2: be back on Thursday. We have many more games to preview.

1352
01:10:38,479 --> 01:10:40,960
Speaker 2: We will do the normal thing on Thursday, talking through

1353
01:10:41,040 --> 01:10:45,080
Speaker 2: some of the headliners under the radar games. Clearly we'll

1354
01:10:45,120 --> 01:10:47,439
Speaker 2: be looking at what's going down in the Patriot League,

1355
01:10:47,479 --> 01:10:50,040
Speaker 2: seeing as how the Lehigh Mountain Hawks.

1356
01:10:50,160 --> 01:10:53,439
Speaker 1: Won forty one and nothing last.

1357
01:10:53,240 --> 01:10:54,559
Speaker 2: Week over the Georgetown Hoys.

1358
01:10:54,600 --> 01:10:57,680
Speaker 1: So we got that. How to Lafayette do? I didn't see?

1359
01:10:57,680 --> 01:11:01,280
Speaker 1: I don't care. Come on time yourself a Patriot League

1360
01:11:01,320 --> 01:11:02,560
Speaker 1: super fan, completest?

1361
01:11:02,680 --> 01:11:04,160
Speaker 2: No, I don't, I never do.

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01:11:04,400 --> 01:11:06,479
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, you die. I feel like that's you have

1363
01:11:06,560 --> 01:11:08,680
Speaker 1: like on your wall, all sorts of imagery. Now do

1364
01:11:08,680 --> 01:11:10,120
Speaker 1: you have behind me?

1365
01:11:10,160 --> 01:11:12,200
Speaker 2: I don't know if you can see it on the screen. Okay,

1366
01:11:12,439 --> 01:11:15,600
Speaker 2: I got a Lee High pennant behind me to commemorate

1367
01:11:15,640 --> 01:11:19,120
Speaker 2: this title run by the Mountain Hawks.

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01:11:19,360 --> 01:11:24,000
Speaker 1: All right, last week Lafayette's because I know people are

1369
01:11:24,000 --> 01:11:26,160
Speaker 1: waiting to hear this, because they've listened to this show.

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01:11:26,200 --> 01:11:29,320
Speaker 1: They beat Holy Cross twenty one to thirteen. Okay, great,

1371
01:11:29,600 --> 01:11:33,120
Speaker 1: and Harvard got by Dartmouth their their last real tough

1372
01:11:33,120 --> 01:11:35,519
Speaker 1: one of the year. That's what I'm paying attention to.

1373
01:11:35,640 --> 01:11:38,920
Speaker 1: All Right, that's it. Why don't we leave it there again?

1374
01:11:40,160 --> 01:11:42,720
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1375
01:11:43,680 --> 01:11:47,599
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1376
01:11:48,720 --> 01:11:51,960
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1377
01:11:52,000 --> 01:11:55,879
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1378
01:11:56,040 --> 01:11:59,160
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1379
01:11:59,360 --> 01:12:04,519
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1380
01:12:04,560 --> 01:12:05,840
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01:12:05,920 --> 01:12:08,960
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1382
01:12:09,120 --> 01:12:11,680
Speaker 1: Why don't we leave it there? I really liked my

1383
01:12:11,720 --> 01:12:14,679
Speaker 1: two bears thing that I noticed in this game. Yeah,

1384
01:12:14,760 --> 01:12:16,360
Speaker 1: I thought you would have been like Dan, you'd done

1385
01:12:16,360 --> 01:12:18,000
Speaker 1: it again. Well, we need a bear.

1386
01:12:19,720 --> 01:12:22,600
Speaker 2: I mean, we've given ourselves a few days now to

1387
01:12:23,200 --> 01:12:25,599
Speaker 2: really do this one up. When we talk about it next.

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01:12:25,400 --> 01:12:27,240
Speaker 1: That's true, we had one of the Bears on this show.

1389
01:12:27,760 --> 01:12:29,799
Speaker 1: We did have Burt, not one of the Quarterback Bears

1390
01:12:29,880 --> 01:12:32,240
Speaker 1: one of the podcasts. Yeah, we have Burke Creish. Yeah,

1391
01:12:32,240 --> 01:12:34,080
Speaker 1: that's true. All right, that's all I have.

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01:12:34,560 --> 01:12:37,040
Speaker 2: Okay, that guy over there, my good friend Dan Rubinstein

1393
01:12:37,080 --> 01:12:39,080
Speaker 2: for myself, Ty Hilarman. Thank you all for down one,

1394
01:12:39,120 --> 01:12:41,040
Speaker 2: if you're listening, for supporting what we do. We will

1395
01:12:41,080 --> 01:12:44,400
Speaker 2: be back on Thursday. In the meantime, enjoy your weekend.

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Speaker 2: In the meantime, stay solid, peace,