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Speaker 1: Warning. Today's episode Candad spoilers for the first two episodes

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Speaker 1: of Alien Earth on e FX be warned Oo it

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Speaker 1: was Jason good zepsion and on Rosday Night And welcome

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Speaker 1: back to Xtra Vision of the podcast where we dive

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Speaker 1: deep to your favorite shows, movies, comics of pop culture.

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Speaker 1: Coming from My Heart Podcast. We're bringing you episodes every

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Speaker 1: Tuesday and Thursday, plus the summer's biggest movies every Friday.

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Speaker 2: And in today's episode bad News, Guys, Aliens coming to us.

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Speaker 2: It's happened and Mason's begun and what surprised it was

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Speaker 2: the once again the absolute machinations of the corporation that

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Speaker 2: have done it as a but the entire story of

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Speaker 2: the Alien franchise and guys, something creepies happened to the children.

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Speaker 2: So we're gonna be talking about.

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Speaker 1: But first stay away from are you since okay? Alienor

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Speaker 1: of episode one Wow. We open uh contemporaneously just just

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Speaker 1: a few years before the events of the first Alien movie,

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Speaker 1: and we get this epigram to start off with. In

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Speaker 1: the future, the race for immortality will come in three guys,

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Speaker 1: cyborgs haven't seen those yet since we've seen them, and

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Speaker 1: hybrids oh, sounds like a weed dispenser.

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Speaker 2: Everyone does at g light, No dro What do you

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Speaker 2: so when you.

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Speaker 1: Come home, like after screening and you're looking to relax,

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Speaker 1: do you like to hit the hybrid or do you

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Speaker 1: like to hit the synth?

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Speaker 2: Are you a cyborg person? I got to like which

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Speaker 1: Thill we open in space, the is sc SS Magino.

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Speaker 1: The year is twenty one twenty. The crew is waking

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Speaker 1: Ridley Scott's masterpiece Alien. You're seeing the crew getting out

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Speaker 1: of their pause. You're seeing them shake off the effects

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Speaker 2: And smoking a cigarette after the cryo sleep got to

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Speaker 1: Right this timeline, we notice that one of the crew members,

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Speaker 1: who I think we all expect is probably the synthetic

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Speaker 2: Are they as important?

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Speaker 1: Probably not, because we haven't Probably not, or maybe eventually,

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Speaker 1: And we also see in these kind of snippets of

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Speaker 1: Let's just say it. Let's just say it. The the

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Speaker 1: strange injuries, signs of surgery, signs of hemorrhaging, signs of gunfire.

433
00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:22,440
Speaker 1: It's very creepy and weird.

434
00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:25,840
Speaker 2: Also very clear that these people did not die in

435
00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:28,920
Speaker 2: the crash, but it's very clear that they were killed

436
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:31,920
Speaker 2: before the crash. So that's just starting to pick up

437
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:34,480
Speaker 2: as a medic that maybe this is not a good

438
00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:35,000
Speaker 2: place to be.

439
00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:41,880
Speaker 1: Hermit and one of his compatriots, Rashidi chat. Apparently, according

440
00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:45,880
Speaker 1: to the logs, there were one hundred and sixty two

441
00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:53,199
Speaker 1: alien biologics on the ship and unknown how clearly some

442
00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:57,000
Speaker 1: of them survived, and we don't know what's where they are,

443
00:26:57,119 --> 00:27:00,119
Speaker 1: all of them. And also they don't know this, but

444
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:03,760
Speaker 1: there's a fully adult xenomorph now lurking around. We go

445
00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:08,320
Speaker 1: to Research Island where Dame is watching the children's recruiting videos.

446
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:12,679
Speaker 1: Boy Genius comes in and he doesn't care about the

447
00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:16,879
Speaker 1: kids at all. He's just like the technological breakthroughs. I

448
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:20,080
Speaker 1: can't wait for the technological breakthroughs. I am so excited

449
00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:22,640
Speaker 1: about pushing the potential of the human race forward by

450
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:26,520
Speaker 1: merging Man a machine. And he says, it's not about

451
00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:30,600
Speaker 1: the money, it's not about the ego. It's about he's

452
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:34,320
Speaker 1: so exhausted by being the smartest person seemingly in the

453
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:40,600
Speaker 1: world that he's hopeful that by merging Man a machine

454
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:44,400
Speaker 1: like this, they will unlock a different level of intellectual

455
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:47,960
Speaker 1: potential where he could finally have interesting conversations with people

456
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:52,880
Speaker 1: who are smarter than him. Now so outrageous, it's outrageous.

457
00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:57,080
Speaker 1: And I'll say this, My read on this is he

458
00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:57,960
Speaker 1: doesn't really want that.

459
00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:01,000
Speaker 2: No, he even kind I kind of says it. He's

460
00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:02,879
Speaker 2: even kind of like, She's like, so, is that what

461
00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:05,800
Speaker 2: you're doing with the kids, And he's like maybe, he's what, huh,

462
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:07,119
Speaker 2: maybe that'll be what happens.

463
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:13,720
Speaker 1: I don't flee. I've never in my life seen or

464
00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:17,040
Speaker 1: read about a competitive person who is elite at what

465
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:20,919
Speaker 1: they do, who wants to be Oh, I would actually

466
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:22,760
Speaker 1: like to be around people who are better than me. No,

467
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:25,200
Speaker 1: I still want to be the best. What he wants

468
00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:29,440
Speaker 1: to happen is, I think, is to be challenged by

469
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:34,479
Speaker 1: much smarter beings so that he then can like raise

470
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:37,240
Speaker 1: his he the smartest, still be the smartest person, and

471
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:38,600
Speaker 1: still be the smartest.

472
00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:40,320
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think that's a really good way of looking

473
00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:43,440
Speaker 2: at I also think I'm guessing because this is a

474
00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:46,920
Speaker 2: now Horley situation. I find the boy, I find that

475
00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:50,560
Speaker 2: boy genious conversation. I find the boigenious character is like

476
00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:55,680
Speaker 2: so just outwardly obviously like sucks that I'm just very

477
00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:58,560
Speaker 2: interested to find out, like what really drives him or

478
00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:00,719
Speaker 2: what is really going on because I think there is

479
00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:01,560
Speaker 2: more to it.

480
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 1: And I say, yeah, I feel the same way, like

481
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 1: there must be a subversion coming right, because he's so

482
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:10,960
Speaker 1: almost cartoonishly the vague.

483
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 2: You know what. I think it's interesting though, is like

484
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:16,680
Speaker 2: again if we're we you know, we were talking about

485
00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:20,719
Speaker 2: in episode one about the kind of obvious Epstein kind

486
00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:24,560
Speaker 2: of the Lost Boys Island, the you know neverland obviously

487
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:27,960
Speaker 2: with like the Michael Jackson stuff. I'm like, also, there

488
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:31,680
Speaker 2: is obviously an Elon Musk element here, but it's more like,

489
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:35,600
Speaker 2: what if Elon Musk actually invented everything and was a kid,

490
00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:37,720
Speaker 2: So it's kind of he was a genius. What if

491
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 2: he was a genius. It's this interesting kind of hypothetical

492
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:48,480
Speaker 2: of the future that is Yeah, it's also like painfully

493
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:53,160
Speaker 2: painfully yeah, it feels prescient while you're watching it, even

494
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:55,560
Speaker 2: though it's new and is made. It feels like it's

495
00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:58,640
Speaker 2: in conversation with the world we're living in in a

496
00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:01,720
Speaker 2: way that just kept to me hooked, even though I've seen,

497
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:04,400
Speaker 2: you know, ten alien movies in my library.

498
00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:22,240
Speaker 1: We'll be right back after a quick break, and we're back.

499
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:24,920
Speaker 1: I also think that here's the thing about being one

500
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:29,560
Speaker 1: of these rich freaks. I also think that boy genius

501
00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:32,760
Speaker 1: wants to put himself in a and probably the best

502
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:37,400
Speaker 1: possibly manufactured and produced hybrid bodies.

503
00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:39,400
Speaker 2: Of course that's really what it's about.

504
00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:42,040
Speaker 1: But for a guy like this, it's like the It's

505
00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:44,840
Speaker 1: like the billionaires who like have the bunker in New Zealand.

506
00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:47,520
Speaker 1: It's all well and good, but who flies you to

507
00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:48,160
Speaker 1: New Zealand?

508
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:49,719
Speaker 2: Who gets you that exactly?

509
00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:53,560
Speaker 1: Who's to Who's to say that the pilot doesn't just

510
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:56,360
Speaker 1: like put two in your head, leave you on the

511
00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:59,600
Speaker 1: tarmac and fly themselves.

512
00:30:59,880 --> 00:31:02,040
Speaker 2: They want to fucking crash the plane, so you.

513
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 1: So, I think that what going for is the loyalty

514
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:11,640
Speaker 1: of these hybrids so that they can do the process.

515
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:14,440
Speaker 2: To him put him that is so smart.

516
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:16,560
Speaker 1: Or or you know, because I think, like, listen, if

517
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 1: it's going to be Dame or any of these other

518
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 1: people who kind of like argue with you a little bit,

519
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:22,040
Speaker 1: do you trust them to even sleep?

520
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:23,040
Speaker 2: I don't try.

521
00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:25,040
Speaker 1: You know you can, because you'll be like when the

522
00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:26,840
Speaker 1: boss is asleep, aren't you going to look at each

523
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:29,400
Speaker 1: other and go, let's just fucking unplug it? Do it exactly?

524
00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:33,040
Speaker 2: Like no joke, because this guy also like doesn't treat

525
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:35,920
Speaker 2: people well, which I think is the classic corporate thing. Also,

526
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:40,160
Speaker 2: I found this so I'm very interested generally about the

527
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:45,400
Speaker 2: notion of introducing these new like Prodigy and Dynamic and

528
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:48,560
Speaker 2: boy Cavallet, because it would have been very easy for

529
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:53,280
Speaker 2: them to just make this character, right Whalen, because we

530
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:57,360
Speaker 2: know through the movies that Ridley Scott returned to with

531
00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:01,880
Speaker 2: Prometheus and Covenant, that Whalen's been obsessed with like extending

532
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:05,720
Speaker 2: the life of himself, of other people, of humans, of

533
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 2: meeting God, of all this kind of stuff of like

534
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 2: how can you live as long as possible? So I

535
00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:12,840
Speaker 2: kind of love the Instead they were like, no, here's

536
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 2: this child who is maybe already doing it better.

537
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:21,640
Speaker 1: He's scared of growing old, growing up, Yeah, because then

538
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:23,640
Speaker 1: he'll be like a normal smart guy. He wants to

539
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:26,280
Speaker 1: be like the most genius like man the young.

540
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:30,239
Speaker 2: Guy forever realized how the cuse of the gifted and

541
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 2: Talented section. Yeah, it's like and guess what, when you

542
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:34,959
Speaker 2: go to he'll always be people.

543
00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:37,920
Speaker 1: He'll like, always be on the thirty under thirty list

544
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 1: forever for the next hundred years.

545
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, that's his dream.

546
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:44,480
Speaker 1: So Kirsh and Wendy and the other hybrids are on

547
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:48,160
Speaker 1: the way. Wendy tells one of the lost bies Slightly that.

548
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, because that all named doctor Peter Pan characters too.

549
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:53,440
Speaker 1: Yes, She's like, I can't wait to my brother is there.

550
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:56,400
Speaker 1: I want to see him. He's a regular human and

551
00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 1: I'm going to go there and I'm going to find him.

552
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:02,120
Speaker 1: Slightly talks a little bit about the fact that his

553
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 1: dad passed away of an illness and how hard that

554
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:11,480
Speaker 1: was for him, and then kersh. Finally, when they arrive

555
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:13,280
Speaker 1: on the scene, is like, Okay, let's get ready to

556
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 1: go in. In the ship, Joe has met up with

557
00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:20,680
Speaker 1: you know, two of his other search and Rescue team members,

558
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:24,240
Speaker 1: Rashidi and Siberian. There's a big gap between like where

559
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:29,960
Speaker 1: the ship crashed and the infrastructure of the building, and

560
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:33,400
Speaker 1: so they're like, let's just like jump it. Siberian jumps it.

561
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:36,960
Speaker 1: Then it becomes Joe's turn to jump it. And as

562
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:41,120
Speaker 1: he's jumping about to jump, like the saliva drops on

563
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 1: his shoulder and you all know what that means. He

564
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:45,880
Speaker 1: looks up. The Xenomorph is there looking at him. He

565
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:50,200
Speaker 1: goes to jump, but the Xenomorph, you know, goes for him,

566
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:54,520
Speaker 1: and they end up falling together into like the lower

567
00:33:54,640 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 1: level halls of this crash site, and Joe's down there.

568
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:03,360
Speaker 1: He's trying to call for back up. He can't get

569
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:05,640
Speaker 1: back up. He tries to gain it, and he gets

570
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:07,720
Speaker 1: on an elevator and manages to escape for a moment,

571
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:10,160
Speaker 1: and he's bleeding from a gash and it's bad. We

572
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:14,520
Speaker 1: flash back to yesterday. Hermit goes to the Prodigy DMV

573
00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:16,680
Speaker 1: to try and quit his job as a search and

574
00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:18,560
Speaker 1: rescue guy, but they're like, no, you have seven months

575
00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:21,480
Speaker 1: in your contract, which means very basically an indentured servant.

576
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:24,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, very alien coded. If you weren't aware that this

577
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:30,239
Speaker 2: is kind of the ecosystem that the Alien franchise exists

578
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 2: in and is why the First Alien is so beloved

579
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:35,680
Speaker 2: as this kind of like unexpected kind of pro worker movie.

580
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:39,399
Speaker 2: Alien Romulus got back into that with the kids who

581
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:42,120
Speaker 2: were on mining contracts who couldn't escape. And I think

582
00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:46,120
Speaker 2: it's really interesting to see here that even you know,

583
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:49,200
Speaker 2: these other corporations are also doing this. It's not just

584
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:54,520
Speaker 2: wailing you, Tani. This is how basically everyone exists. And honestly,

585
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:58,120
Speaker 2: you know, when he's like, I'm gonna leave to go

586
00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 2: to medical school, They're like, no or not. You've got

587
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 2: seven months left on your contracts, right, And isn't that

588
00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:05,440
Speaker 2: all of us just trying to afford to go to college?

589
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:07,360
Speaker 1: Like it's actually extremely bleak.

590
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:11,000
Speaker 2: But yeah, it's just a it's just like a faceless,

591
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:15,200
Speaker 2: non humanized robot, which I find really interesting because it's

592
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:18,400
Speaker 2: also introducing like a class system within robots. This is

593
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:21,719
Speaker 2: just kind of your face. This is just like a

594
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:24,160
Speaker 2: ball but like a camera looking at Yes.

595
00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 1: You don't even get to talk to the robot with

596
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 1: the face. And meanwhile, Wendy, who is you know, watching

597
00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:34,799
Speaker 1: her brother on cams back on Research Island, manages through

598
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:38,480
Speaker 1: her tablet to interface with the robot clerk, and she

599
00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:39,080
Speaker 1: begins like.

600
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:43,200
Speaker 2: Saying lines from Ice Age Ice.

601
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:45,480
Speaker 1: Age to her brother, and he's like, what are you

602
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:50,760
Speaker 1: talking about. Meanwhile, you know, all the Boy Genius people,

603
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:53,799
Speaker 1: all the managers of Prodigy and Boy Genius himself are

604
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:54,840
Speaker 1: absolutely bricked up.

605
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:59,399
Speaker 2: Boi Genus is like, yeah, and I kind of love

606
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:01,719
Speaker 2: this too, but because they basically like how did she

607
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:04,200
Speaker 2: do this? And then they go, well, you know, they're

608
00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 2: like kind of like they're like, well, you know, the

609
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:08,920
Speaker 2: Internet kind of runs through her, but we never imagine

610
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:11,040
Speaker 2: that she would be able to kind of like run

611
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:12,920
Speaker 2: through the Internet. And I'm like, maybe you should have

612
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:15,200
Speaker 2: thought of that when before you made this robot that

613
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:19,799
Speaker 2: conceeemingly just like touch any screen and interact with the

614
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:21,560
Speaker 2: people on the other side of it. That seems like

615
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:23,320
Speaker 2: a massive amount of power.

616
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:26,520
Speaker 1: Back in the present, they arrive at the crash site

617
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:29,799
Speaker 1: and Wendy immediately begins like picking up some high frequency

618
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 1: like interference that is messing with her sensors and it's

619
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 1: kind of interfering with her hearing. Nobody else can pick

620
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:39,640
Speaker 1: it up. Boy Genius is of course watching it all

621
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:43,560
Speaker 1: from his office. They Kirsh goes to talk to the

622
00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:45,279
Speaker 1: chief of the Search and rescue, the guy who's like

623
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:47,440
Speaker 1: running the whole thing, and it's like, what's going on.

624
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:50,319
Speaker 1: The guy's like, okay, well we're concerned about radiation. They're

625
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:51,720
Speaker 1: like we're not because we're not human.

626
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:53,600
Speaker 2: They're like, oh well.

627
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:56,440
Speaker 1: Meanwhile, Wendy just like walks up to their computer system

628
00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:58,879
Speaker 1: and is like scrolling through their database and all their

629
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:01,759
Speaker 1: feeds and finds her brother and she just leaves. She

630
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:05,320
Speaker 1: doesn't even say she heads off to go find him.

631
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 1: Kersh is like okay, fine, lost boys on me, let's

632
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:14,839
Speaker 1: go boy. Genius meanwhile, is just so jazzed about like

633
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:17,439
Speaker 1: everything happening around the ship and the until they're getting

634
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:20,719
Speaker 1: from the ship and Utani calls and Utani's like, hey,

635
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:24,720
Speaker 1: so obviously, like we fucked up, very expensive day for us,

636
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:28,440
Speaker 1: So sorry about the loss of x amount of.

637
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 2: Definitely at least one hundred thousand people like this crash

638
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:32,520
Speaker 2: really absolutely.

639
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:35,400
Speaker 1: Because so sorry about that, but we do need the

640
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:37,840
Speaker 1: ship back and we'd love to send a team to

641
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 1: go and just get some of our important ip back.

642
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:44,680
Speaker 1: And Genius is like, speaking of that, like anything we

643
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:47,360
Speaker 1: should know about this did crash on my territory and

644
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:49,600
Speaker 1: lots of people down here like should should I know

645
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:52,239
Speaker 1: about any weird stuff on there that could possibly pose

646
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:54,239
Speaker 1: a threat, And Utani is like, well, you know, I

647
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 1: can't talk about.

648
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:58,760
Speaker 2: That proprietary baby prot Sorry.

649
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:02,560
Speaker 1: That's all whyland Utani the ip, which again is why

650
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:05,120
Speaker 1: we must send a team to get that. And boy

651
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 1: Genius is like, no, I have your lawyer, call my

652
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:08,920
Speaker 1: lawyer and we'll work it out. Okay, that's why we

653
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:12,799
Speaker 1: have lawyers, and goodbye, And it's very clear that boy

654
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:15,239
Speaker 1: Genius is not going to give back anything at all.

655
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:19,040
Speaker 1: He wants everything on that chip. The Lost Boys get

656
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:23,960
Speaker 1: into the ship. Wendy senses, whether it's the interference or

657
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:27,640
Speaker 1: the alien that's running around, she senses something. She knows

658
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:31,719
Speaker 1: something's happening on this ship. Kersh tells all the you know,

659
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:36,400
Speaker 1: these are kids again, don't be afraid. We're gonna be fine.

660
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:38,680
Speaker 1: You're immortal, you're very strong. And then they come up

661
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:44,839
Speaker 1: across this weird like plantinus clear like straight out of Prometheus.

662
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:48,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, like really horrific kind of it's like a gland

663
00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:51,839
Speaker 2: like full of something. It's just, you know, nothing good

664
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:52,319
Speaker 2: is coming out.

665
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:56,240
Speaker 1: It's making moist sounds. It's hanging from the ceiling they're studying,

666
00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 1: and they begin to study it. Kurseh is like be careful.

667
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:04,960
Speaker 1: He realized is that it's not of earth. It's an alien. Meanwhile,

668
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:08,239
Speaker 1: boys watching all of this and just absolutely salivating, you know,

669
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:12,760
Speaker 1: So they decide to try and capture this glandular alien.

670
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:17,359
Speaker 1: Kersh is like sense one team led by Curly to go, Hey,

671
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 1: go find a lab where they have equipment where we

672
00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:23,319
Speaker 1: can like scoop this thing off the fucking ceiling and

673
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:26,439
Speaker 1: we can capture it. They go there, they find more

674
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:29,399
Speaker 1: dead bodies and more disgusting aliens. They find a cat

675
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:34,920
Speaker 1: that's injured that suddenly disgorges this parasitical the spider octopus

676
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:40,759
Speaker 1: the iOpus rather and the iOpus attacks them, but they

677
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:43,879
Speaker 1: managed to capture it in like this metal tin.

678
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:47,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, and also I have to say, I really I

679
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:51,480
Speaker 2: love that. I think that something that this episode does.

680
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:56,719
Speaker 2: First episode establishes a lot of like Piapan references and

681
00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:59,000
Speaker 2: this idea of the Lost Boys and stuff, which you know,

682
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:02,239
Speaker 2: your milech may vary, but what I think that they

683
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:05,000
Speaker 2: do in this episode that is so unbelievable with the

684
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:08,920
Speaker 2: Lost Boys is like every single one of those actors who,

685
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:11,719
Speaker 2: by the way, many of you, like there's Jasper from

686
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:15,880
Speaker 2: Six of Crows and you know, Shadow and Bone and stuff.

687
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:20,920
Speaker 2: These are people you recognize. The absolute belief that you

688
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:23,719
Speaker 2: will have that these are ten year olds is.

689
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:25,200
Speaker 1: Just so excuse.

690
00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 2: The acting is unbelievable, and the way they react to

691
00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:32,480
Speaker 2: these scary things adds a whole different layer than we've

692
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:34,880
Speaker 2: seen before in an alien movie. So they were really

693
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:38,439
Speaker 2: starting to lock me in at that point. Especially Yeah,

694
00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:39,880
Speaker 2: they're like, Okay.

695
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:44,120
Speaker 1: There's an openness of emotion on their faces on all

696
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:46,239
Speaker 1: the actors who play the Lost Boys, including Wendy Y

697
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:51,239
Speaker 1: faces they're just you buy you really, you asolutely buy it.

698
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:56,279
Speaker 1: You buy it. So Wendy and slightly find her brother's

699
00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 1: like vest and they see scratch marks all over the walls,

700
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:05,239
Speaker 1: so they go off in that direction. Hermit, meanwhile, is

701
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:08,720
Speaker 1: now in part of the residential tower and he runs

702
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:12,000
Speaker 1: into another Search and Rescue member. He's like, have you

703
00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:15,080
Speaker 1: seen like any weird animals? Like I was like, what, Like,

704
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:17,520
Speaker 1: what are you talking about? You forget about that, Let's

705
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:19,360
Speaker 1: just like get everybody out of here. They knock on

706
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:21,399
Speaker 1: a door and they find like people having like this

707
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:22,600
Speaker 1: eighteenth century.

708
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:26,239
Speaker 2: This sh it was so creepy giving. It's very much

709
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:31,880
Speaker 2: exchanging ballad. It's giving. It's definitely giving, like high Rise,

710
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 2: it's also giving, you know, all the worst things you

711
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:36,719
Speaker 2: imagine about rich people and what.

712
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:41,080
Speaker 1: It's a very pre French revolutionary kind of let them

713
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:44,960
Speaker 1: eat cake vibe in there and they're like, fuck you what,

714
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:48,000
Speaker 1: Oh a big ship crashed into our building. You know,

715
00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:51,520
Speaker 1: we have boy genius call me. We go to the

716
00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:54,799
Speaker 1: same golf club. Okay, so by and closes the door.

717
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:58,640
Speaker 1: You know, as the door closes, the alien comes up

718
00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:03,879
Speaker 1: behind and the other guy immediately kills the other guy,

719
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:09,239
Speaker 1: and you know, while the killing is going on, the

720
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:12,320
Speaker 1: eighteenth century people are like, what's that sound outside? So

721
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:14,720
Speaker 1: they open the door to see what with the rockets

722
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 1: is outside, and the alien immediately is like oh meat,

723
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:24,120
Speaker 1: goes in there and just cuts everybody absolutely to pieces.

724
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:30,800
Speaker 1: Hermit is you know, kind of not silly, but manages

725
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:34,080
Speaker 1: to push the bisected corpse that landed on top of

726
00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:35,839
Speaker 1: him off of me. He picks up a gun and

727
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:39,840
Speaker 1: he goes into that room, to the eighteenth century party

728
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:41,920
Speaker 1: room to like, I guess kill the alien.

729
00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:45,759
Speaker 2: Something that I love here is that one, this is

730
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:48,520
Speaker 2: giving you know, common in the group chat. I mean

731
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:50,400
Speaker 2: in the in the chat is talking to us about

732
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:52,680
Speaker 2: like kind of the mix of like the high tech

733
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:56,880
Speaker 2: and then the eighteenth century kind of aristocrats. Really cool.

734
00:42:57,120 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 2: I just also want to say it's giving hell. Ray's

735
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 2: a full bloodline where this is busy exact combos. But

736
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 2: this also is a great moment if you are someone

737
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:09,680
Speaker 2: who's not one hundred percent sure how scary this show

738
00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:13,600
Speaker 2: may be. The show is really scary, but Noah Hawley

739
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 2: has multiple moments throughout this where he chooses not to

740
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:21,440
Speaker 2: show you stuff, and at first, when you are hearing

741
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:23,960
Speaker 2: them get killed, you are not seeing it. You are

742
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:26,400
Speaker 2: just seeing the blood. Later on you will pull out

743
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:28,920
Speaker 2: and get to see it. But there are multiple episode

744
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:32,600
Speaker 2: There are multiple moments in this where Harley decides, hey,

745
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 2: you've kind of already seen that. And something that I

746
00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:38,000
Speaker 2: think is really interesting about this episode is when the

747
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:42,680
Speaker 2: Lost Boys are going through the crash Chip, we are

748
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:48,040
Speaker 2: essentially getting in a retroactive sense, what we usually get

749
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:50,080
Speaker 2: from an alien movie, which is you meet the crew,

750
00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:52,560
Speaker 2: then we see them all get killed. Here we don't

751
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:54,799
Speaker 2: see that first crew get killed. We go through and

752
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:57,279
Speaker 2: pick through kind of the wreckage, and I think he

753
00:43:57,400 --> 00:44:01,240
Speaker 2: does so many different interesting makes so many different interesting

754
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:05,320
Speaker 2: choices like that that make it feel like you're seeing

755
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:07,680
Speaker 2: something you haven't seen before. And this is one of

756
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:09,600
Speaker 2: those moments where you really.

757
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:14,719
Speaker 1: Get that it's really cool. Well, Hermit gets into a

758
00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:18,360
Speaker 1: fight with an alien and it basically takes him out easily,

759
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:25,279
Speaker 1: and it's about to minimouth him when Marrow shows up

760
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:28,719
Speaker 1: and zaps it with this big bug zapper so sick

761
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:34,799
Speaker 1: like a Ghostbusters type gun. And when it's down and

762
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 1: it's totally down in a way we've.

763
00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:39,960
Speaker 2: Never seen it looks it's like culled up in like

764
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:40,680
Speaker 2: a fetod.

765
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:42,680
Speaker 1: It's position down.

766
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:43,880
Speaker 2: Yeah.

767
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:48,239
Speaker 1: He then takes like a spray gun and sprays it

768
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:52,000
Speaker 1: with this like glue that turns into like a sack,

769
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:53,839
Speaker 1: and then he starts dragging the sack.

770
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:57,279
Speaker 2: But he also does he also does shoot Hermit with

771
00:44:57,440 --> 00:45:00,000
Speaker 2: that same Ghostbuster's gun, which I thought was really fine.

772
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:02,160
Speaker 2: He can say it's like yay, thank you, and he's

773
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:06,560
Speaker 2: like nope, no, like I get bugs apps too, like

774
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 2: I've hopefully turned the.

775
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 1: Volume down or like the zapp down. Back at the plant,

776
00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:16,160
Speaker 1: Anus curshes, Liken, what the fuck am I looking at

777
00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:19,319
Speaker 1: like this thing is so insane. He hears the other

778
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:22,319
Speaker 1: team yelling from the other room, yelling for him. He

779
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:25,040
Speaker 1: goes in there and Smee and Nibs are like, hey,

780
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:28,160
Speaker 1: we captured the Ioplus, this crazy Ioplus thing, and we

781
00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:31,400
Speaker 1: have it in this bin. And curseh is like okay,

782
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:32,920
Speaker 1: and he goes over to there. He's like, oh, good

783
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:37,439
Speaker 1: to terminal. He interfaces with mother and basically gets a

784
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:40,680
Speaker 1: ton of information about like what is on this ship.

785
00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:43,920
Speaker 1: Let's go to break and we'll be right back to that.

786
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:02,520
Speaker 1: And we're at So Marrow is dragging the aliens of

787
00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:07,000
Speaker 1: the elevator when another search and rescue team arrives and

788
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:09,600
Speaker 1: they're like, stop right there, sir, where are you going

789
00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:13,120
Speaker 1: with that bag or stuff? Drop that bug zapp or

790
00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:17,000
Speaker 1: drop that bag. Hey he's a cyborg. Okay, don't make

791
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:22,520
Speaker 1: any funny moves, buddy. And he's trying. Marrow is trying

792
00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:26,000
Speaker 1: to be like, listen, it can it senses your fear.

793
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:29,000
Speaker 1: Don't be afraid of me. Chill out because it can

794
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:31,759
Speaker 1: sense it. Like what are you talking about? Shut up?

795
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:35,400
Speaker 1: And meanwhile, like the bag is starting to ripple and

796
00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:37,839
Speaker 1: tear and the thing is coming. He's like, okay, well

797
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:41,400
Speaker 1: I warned you, and then the alien bursts out kills

798
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:42,919
Speaker 1: all the people.

799
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:45,160
Speaker 2: Behind me again, kind of in this way that you

800
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:46,799
Speaker 2: don't necessarily see but you hear.

801
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:52,279
Speaker 1: So well done does the ripley in the alien like

802
00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:56,239
Speaker 1: it's right behind me, like breath on my shoulder thing,

803
00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:58,279
Speaker 1: and then it runs away to go kill other people.

804
00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:00,880
Speaker 2: Okay, very important moment. I fail. But because Morrow is

805
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:04,400
Speaker 2: a cyborg, Morow is also at this point handcuffed, so

806
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:06,759
Speaker 2: he could he had no They do this great shot

807
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:10,040
Speaker 2: where his face just starts dripping with sweat the closer

808
00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:13,120
Speaker 2: they get in, because he knows. And then the next

809
00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:17,200
Speaker 2: scene I think inspires an interesting conversation following that up.

810
00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:20,879
Speaker 1: Yes, because I I've been thinking about that as well.

811
00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:21,520
Speaker 2: That's okay.

812
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:24,880
Speaker 1: So we go to the plant sphincter and it releases

813
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:29,000
Speaker 1: like a tentacle phallus thing like in Prometheus.

814
00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:31,920
Speaker 2: It kind of splits into a plant.

815
00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:35,560
Speaker 1: Right that wants to clearly face hug, but it doesn't

816
00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:40,560
Speaker 1: because my guess is Curly is a machine.

817
00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:44,200
Speaker 2: Yes, Curly is at least a hybrid. And I think

818
00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:47,400
Speaker 2: the fact that the xenomorph also did not strike Morrow,

819
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:51,080
Speaker 2: who is a cyborg is leaving us with some interesting

820
00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:55,560
Speaker 2: questions about this, like do the aliens and do the

821
00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:58,640
Speaker 2: xenomorphs and do all the creatures you know that Michael

822
00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:02,560
Speaker 2: created as we know and from Prometheus because he created them,

823
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:08,680
Speaker 2: Like do they have a version to getting like attacking

824
00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:11,799
Speaker 2: us in or something that's not organic? Or is it

825
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:14,040
Speaker 2: because they need the organic nature to implant the egg

826
00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:16,319
Speaker 2: I don't know. I think they want us to know

827
00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:17,080
Speaker 2: that it is.

828
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:21,960
Speaker 1: I wonder if it's not because in a new environment,

829
00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:25,840
Speaker 1: they're in reproduction mode now they need meat for the eggs,

830
00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:31,640
Speaker 1: and so they're looking for egg stuff. Maybe, but it's

831
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:34,640
Speaker 1: like the alien was just like killing So I don't know,

832
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:40,239
Speaker 1: unclear right now. Meanwhile, Kersh on the Terminal locates a

833
00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:42,759
Speaker 1: storage bay with eggs with alien eggs in it, and

834
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:45,480
Speaker 1: he's like, Smeek, go down there and take a team,

835
00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:48,600
Speaker 1: go down there and secure that. I Meanwhile, you know,

836
00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:50,120
Speaker 1: the ioplus, I guess.

837
00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:52,000
Speaker 2: Will just like what you just hope.

838
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:54,080
Speaker 1: That it doesn't jump out of the bin it. Yeah,

839
00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:57,560
Speaker 1: Wendy has slightly come to the eighteenth century party, which

840
00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:00,160
Speaker 1: they're like a bear must have done this because it's

841
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:04,719
Speaker 1: fucking crazy. Meanwhile, hermit, who is you know running around

842
00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:07,760
Speaker 1: now in the back hallways of this weird residential tower,

843
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:11,080
Speaker 1: comes to like a museum where he finds Reggie Jackson's

844
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:16,520
Speaker 1: nineteen seventy seven World Series Game six home run ball,

845
00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:19,120
Speaker 1: which he knows everything about because he and his dad

846
00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:22,400
Speaker 1: are huge baseball fans. Now they are fans of a

847
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:24,719
Speaker 1: sport that's like three hundred years in the past now,

848
00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:26,439
Speaker 1: and this is a game that's like three hundred years old.

849
00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:29,000
Speaker 2: And his dad used to watch, like they used to

850
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:31,719
Speaker 2: watch three Buns together while they were drinking PiZZ when

851
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:32,799
Speaker 2: they would and he was like.

852
00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:39,640
Speaker 1: His dad, by the way, in the flashback Ryan Murphy, Yeah,

853
00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:43,440
Speaker 1: And when he when the TV presentation of what the

854
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:47,239
Speaker 1: historical significance of this ball turns off, Wendy is right

855
00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:50,440
Speaker 1: behind him and big smile on her face, like again

856
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:57,640
Speaker 1: this incredible face acting, And of course he doesn't recognize

857
00:49:57,640 --> 00:50:00,319
Speaker 1: her to know who she is, and she he wants

858
00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:02,120
Speaker 1: to know, like, oh, who are you talking to? And

859
00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:04,480
Speaker 1: he's like my dad and he's explaining, Oh, my dad

860
00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:08,640
Speaker 1: loved baseball. I love baseball. There's this whole thing like

861
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:11,480
Speaker 1: when you come back then, like when you came through

862
00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:13,840
Speaker 1: in the World Series. They called you mister October, and

863
00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:17,839
Speaker 1: Reggie Jackson was mister October. And Hermit sees that these

864
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:22,799
Speaker 1: two people are covered in like blood and he's like,

865
00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:25,200
Speaker 1: are you okay, Like, oh my god, He's like no,

866
00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:26,680
Speaker 1: it's not our blood. And he's like, oh my god,

867
00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:31,200
Speaker 1: you're synthetics. Wow, And they're like no, we don't like

868
00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:33,640
Speaker 1: that word, but we don't, you know. And you can

869
00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:36,720
Speaker 1: see them trying to struggle with how do we explain

870
00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:38,000
Speaker 1: what we are because we're not synthetic?

871
00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:40,919
Speaker 2: And then allowed to talk about it, allowed to talk.

872
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:46,520
Speaker 1: Meanwhile, Wendy's absolutely buzzing because here is her brother. She

873
00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:50,360
Speaker 1: found him. Meanwhile, Kursh calls and is like, we're sending

874
00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:53,560
Speaker 1: you to the loading bay with the eggs. Wendy go there,

875
00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:58,520
Speaker 1: and Wendy's like, oh uh, Search and Rescue guy come

876
00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:02,360
Speaker 1: with us because they probably be like hurt people down there.

877
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:10,320
Speaker 2: Many of them. They're just arms are chopped off every leading.

878
00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:09,920
Speaker 1: Like gonna need you.

879
00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:13,520
Speaker 2: Sydney Chandler, who plays Wendy, is unreal in this role,

880
00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:17,600
Speaker 2: like going like this, this is emmy city.

881
00:51:17,640 --> 00:51:20,280
Speaker 1: This is a good They make a really smart choice

882
00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:25,200
Speaker 1: here because there is a moment where you know, Wendy

883
00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:28,879
Speaker 1: has met her brother and she's treating him like her

884
00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:32,080
Speaker 1: long lost brother, but he doesn't know what's going on,

885
00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:34,440
Speaker 1: and she's asking him to come to this thing. And

886
00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:39,480
Speaker 1: I think there's a reasonable version of this where Joe

887
00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:42,479
Speaker 1: right now is thinking, like, is this woman hitting on me? Yeah?

888
00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:43,439
Speaker 2: I think so too.

889
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:49,680
Speaker 1: Luckily, they resolve that right away very impressively expressively, because.

890
00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:52,680
Speaker 2: They like usually to do a born sexy Yesterday trope

891
00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:54,759
Speaker 2: and have like a weird There's been a lot of

892
00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:58,200
Speaker 2: shows recently that have been, you know, getting critique for

893
00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:02,640
Speaker 2: kind of like having weird, like sub incestuous, like implied

894
00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:05,880
Speaker 2: plots and like ya romance and drama and TV and stuff.

895
00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:07,680
Speaker 2: So I think that they do a good job here of.

896
00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:13,200
Speaker 1: Just killing and smartly they immediately resolve this by having

897
00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:19,600
Speaker 1: the kids Wendy and slightly basically spill the beans like, oh,

898
00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:22,319
Speaker 1: we're kids. Hermon's like, what do you mean you're not?

899
00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:24,600
Speaker 1: Your kids are used to be kids. He's like, well,

900
00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:26,760
Speaker 1: we were dying kids, and then they put our brains

901
00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:31,560
Speaker 1: into these machine bodies, and Hermit kind of immediately makes

902
00:52:31,560 --> 00:52:35,839
Speaker 1: the connection with like, oh my sister was like terminally ill.

903
00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:39,480
Speaker 1: That's interesting and so she immediately just leaps to the

904
00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:43,239
Speaker 1: and is like Joe, it's me and Joe is like

905
00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:47,120
Speaker 1: flipping out. She's like, I've been spying on you. And

906
00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:48,920
Speaker 1: this is a lot to take in for Joe. She's like,

907
00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:53,280
Speaker 1: I've been spying on you. That I didn't die, I'm

908
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:55,480
Speaker 1: still alive. And he's like, but there was a funeral

909
00:52:55,640 --> 00:53:00,560
Speaker 1: and we learned that clearly everything that happened is a lie.

910
00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:04,680
Speaker 1: And this is where it really gets into uncomfortable, like, yeah,

911
00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:10,399
Speaker 1: Epstein Island territory because Wendy is like, well, Dad took

912
00:53:10,440 --> 00:53:13,719
Speaker 1: me there and he told me that it has this

913
00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:15,880
Speaker 1: has to be a secret and not to tell anybody.

914
00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:18,280
Speaker 1: It had to be our secret that I was going

915
00:53:18,560 --> 00:53:23,239
Speaker 1: to the Prodigy Research Island. And when this is unfolding,

916
00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:26,279
Speaker 1: I was really like wow, okay, I know.

917
00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:29,520
Speaker 2: I was like, this shit's like really brutal, like they

918
00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:33,440
Speaker 2: do that, like he creeped out as possible. And honestly,

919
00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:36,840
Speaker 2: I actually think it works really well because something that

920
00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:38,480
Speaker 2: was kind of blowing my mind. I think it works

921
00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:42,200
Speaker 2: throughout this first two episodes, especially when I rewatched them,

922
00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:45,000
Speaker 2: was just like, there's this show has so much to

923
00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:49,880
Speaker 2: say about, like the bodily autonomy and kind of the

924
00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:52,240
Speaker 2: way that they feel like they can just do whatever

925
00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:55,200
Speaker 2: with these adult bodies, and the way that these you know,

926
00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:58,359
Speaker 2: for Wendy, it's like they essentially created her to then,

927
00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:02,640
Speaker 2: you know, be the be the safe face of taking

928
00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:05,640
Speaker 2: away these other kids bodily autonomy, which.

929
00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:06,600
Speaker 1: Is very part.

930
00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:10,919
Speaker 2: Exactly like so I think they do. They have something

931
00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:13,160
Speaker 2: to say with it, which I think is really interesting.

932
00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:15,000
Speaker 2: I'm excite see how it goes.

933
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:17,120
Speaker 1: So they arrived down at the loading bay with the

934
00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:21,360
Speaker 1: eggs in it, and and Hermit is like, fully, he's

935
00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:24,960
Speaker 1: like unable to grapple with this information. So finally he

936
00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:31,279
Speaker 1: like is like, okay, Christmas morning many years ago, and

937
00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:33,680
Speaker 1: this feels like a line from something clearly a line

938
00:54:33,719 --> 00:54:36,120
Speaker 1: from something that I did not recognize. What did you

939
00:54:36,160 --> 00:54:38,480
Speaker 1: say to me? And then she says the thing for

940
00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:43,480
Speaker 1: ice age and he absolutely is like, oh my god,

941
00:54:43,520 --> 00:54:46,839
Speaker 1: it's you. He can't and I can't believe it. They

942
00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:47,800
Speaker 1: get in there and.

943
00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:51,399
Speaker 2: It's eggs, eggs.

944
00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:53,960
Speaker 1: You know. Back at the research island, boy Genius is

945
00:54:54,840 --> 00:54:58,280
Speaker 1: boy genius. Epstein is like absolutely going nuts.

946
00:54:58,440 --> 00:55:03,000
Speaker 2: He's just love nature has led to finishing. He's he

947
00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:06,920
Speaker 2: could be happy yeah, he's so happy. He's like so,

948
00:55:07,960 --> 00:55:10,320
Speaker 2: which is also so funny because I'm always like, why

949
00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:13,520
Speaker 2: do these like they're so excited to have this new

950
00:55:13,719 --> 00:55:16,040
Speaker 2: terrible thing on earth? And I'm like, guys, why, I

951
00:55:16,040 --> 00:55:18,000
Speaker 2: guess because they hope to make money from it. But

952
00:55:18,040 --> 00:55:19,759
Speaker 2: I'm just like, this is never gonna end.

953
00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:24,120
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, any biological controls quarantine, like don't have

954
00:55:24,239 --> 00:55:25,560
Speaker 1: to like at least be careful.

955
00:55:25,760 --> 00:55:28,520
Speaker 2: Aren't you? Aren't you in charge? But maybe this is

956
00:55:28,560 --> 00:55:32,040
Speaker 2: going to be part of the show's commentary is like, well,

957
00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:34,239
Speaker 2: a corporate state is not.

958
00:55:35,200 --> 00:55:37,680
Speaker 1: Let's talk about that. Yeah, the people is, let's talk

959
00:55:37,680 --> 00:55:39,640
Speaker 1: about it in the conversation because I thought about that

960
00:55:39,719 --> 00:55:43,239
Speaker 1: as well. So they get to the eggs, and you know,

961
00:55:43,239 --> 00:55:49,680
Speaker 1: it's the classic kind of like laser beam film over

962
00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:52,879
Speaker 1: the top of the eggs which breaks when you walk

963
00:55:52,960 --> 00:55:56,120
Speaker 1: close to them. Wendy can is hearing this interference. To me,

964
00:55:56,200 --> 00:55:58,319
Speaker 1: it's unclear if it's the eggs or something else, but

965
00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:00,680
Speaker 1: she's really hearing it, and she's like, do you guys

966
00:56:00,680 --> 00:56:04,920
Speaker 1: hear that. Meanwhile, the eggs begin to, if not stir,

967
00:56:06,800 --> 00:56:09,440
Speaker 1: rustle a little bit in that way that makes you

968
00:56:09,480 --> 00:56:12,880
Speaker 1: feel like, oh face hurger is coming. Hermit meanwhile, not

969
00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:17,520
Speaker 1: knowing anything about these eggs, gets into that face classic face.

970
00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:21,960
Speaker 2: Hugga hugged just gonna be looking in an egg, gonna

971
00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:23,640
Speaker 2: face something right off.

972
00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:29,440
Speaker 1: But before that can happen, the xenomorph shows up and says,

973
00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:32,480
Speaker 1: you know, get away from my eggs, you bitch.

974
00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:35,960
Speaker 2: Also as well as like this fucking motherfucker hummt like this,

975
00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:38,800
Speaker 2: I thought I killed this bitch, and the atheen Century

976
00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:40,759
Speaker 2: room like I got to get him.

977
00:56:41,080 --> 00:56:43,400
Speaker 1: This alien loves Hermit.

978
00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:46,560
Speaker 2: He's feeling, he's feeling something.

979
00:56:46,719 --> 00:56:51,640
Speaker 1: And it tackles Joe and they fall together again deeper

980
00:56:51,719 --> 00:56:54,319
Speaker 1: down into the superstructure of the ship and when he's like,

981
00:56:54,440 --> 00:56:58,640
Speaker 1: I'm going after him, and we cut there. Okay, let's

982
00:56:58,680 --> 00:57:02,200
Speaker 1: talk about some of those I think that you know,

983
00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:04,560
Speaker 1: one of the things that I found really you mentioned

984
00:57:04,560 --> 00:57:07,040
Speaker 1: the corporate governance space and what that would mean for

985
00:57:07,239 --> 00:57:10,320
Speaker 1: laws and for corporate risk, you know, because one of

986
00:57:10,400 --> 00:57:13,160
Speaker 1: the things I was like, really, would would boy Genius

987
00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:17,440
Speaker 1: send these like highly advanced but like basically one of

988
00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:20,360
Speaker 1: a kind prototypes like into this crash site? And then

989
00:57:20,360 --> 00:57:21,920
Speaker 1: I thought about it more and I'm like, well, that's

990
00:57:22,200 --> 00:57:27,080
Speaker 1: why you have an entire like corporate city is who cares,

991
00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:30,520
Speaker 1: No one's going to steal it. This is your island,

992
00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:32,120
Speaker 1: like it can't go anywhere.

993
00:57:32,240 --> 00:57:34,720
Speaker 2: To him, he's like, you know what, I have already

994
00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:37,280
Speaker 2: made these ones, like I'll just make them again.

995
00:57:37,680 --> 00:57:40,840
Speaker 1: And yeah. And I think the fact that this city

996
00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:44,560
Speaker 1: is like separate from where he lives on the Research

997
00:57:44,600 --> 00:57:47,120
Speaker 1: Island by like, I mean the flight there seemingly took

998
00:57:47,160 --> 00:57:48,200
Speaker 1: several hours, yeah.

999
00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:50,440
Speaker 2: Which is ter also called Nabalande Island, so.

1000
00:57:50,440 --> 00:57:57,880
Speaker 1: Like yeah, and so I think for him, of course

1001
00:57:57,920 --> 00:58:00,880
Speaker 1: you would want to put up a quarantine. But also

1002
00:58:01,400 --> 00:58:03,480
Speaker 1: I suppose he's thinking, well, let's see what happens a

1003
00:58:03,520 --> 00:58:08,280
Speaker 1: little bit exactly a little bit of a breakout. I

1004
00:58:08,320 --> 00:58:10,320
Speaker 1: live on Research Island. I'm fine. Yeah.

1005
00:58:10,360 --> 00:58:14,120
Speaker 2: I kind of like that. It reflects the real recklessness

1006
00:58:14,120 --> 00:58:17,120
Speaker 2: that we have seen from like real CEOs, where it's like, yeah,

1007
00:58:17,200 --> 00:58:19,760
Speaker 2: let's see what happens. It's not really going to impact me,

1008
00:58:20,080 --> 00:58:23,320
Speaker 2: Like what happens if I create a social media platform

1009
00:58:23,360 --> 00:58:26,080
Speaker 2: there's just nothing but disinformation. Well, I'll be okay in

1010
00:58:26,160 --> 00:58:29,480
Speaker 2: my bunker or whatever, you know. So I think that

1011
00:58:29,560 --> 00:58:31,480
Speaker 2: you're right. I think that's probably going to be one

1012
00:58:31,520 --> 00:58:35,560
Speaker 2: of the big through lines, especially because Noah Hawley is

1013
00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:39,240
Speaker 2: He's no like Slump, He's he's a serious person. He

1014
00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:44,320
Speaker 2: loves to put a thematic storyline into a genre program,

1015
00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:47,480
Speaker 2: as you will know if you watched the very controversially

1016
00:58:47,600 --> 00:58:52,360
Speaker 2: ended but I think incredibly powerful Legion television program. So

1017
00:58:52,440 --> 00:58:54,920
Speaker 2: I'm very interested in that. I love that we're already

1018
00:58:54,960 --> 00:58:59,520
Speaker 2: getting these kind of questions of corporate ownership over the body.

1019
00:58:59,600 --> 00:59:02,600
Speaker 2: And in a way, this is really just taking what

1020
00:59:02,760 --> 00:59:07,640
Speaker 2: Alien has already done with the notion of workers and

1021
00:59:08,200 --> 00:59:11,440
Speaker 2: worker protections and how in the first Alien movie they

1022
00:59:11,440 --> 00:59:13,760
Speaker 2: don't have a choice, they have to go on this

1023
00:59:13,840 --> 00:59:17,160
Speaker 2: mission because they are essentially owned. Now we are in

1024
00:59:17,200 --> 00:59:19,720
Speaker 2: a situation where Noah is saying, okay, well these kids

1025
00:59:19,760 --> 00:59:23,880
Speaker 2: are literally owned, like their body is company property. You

1026
00:59:23,960 --> 00:59:26,080
Speaker 2: put a great there's a great question that you popped

1027
00:59:26,080 --> 00:59:27,680
Speaker 2: in here that I want to ask you, like, how

1028
00:59:27,680 --> 00:59:30,600
Speaker 2: do you feel about the idea of like transferring your

1029
00:59:30,640 --> 00:59:34,040
Speaker 2: consciousness to it? Because let's be real, when Wendy, they

1030
00:59:34,040 --> 00:59:36,440
Speaker 2: do a good job of shit, Like Wendy's powers are sick,

1031
00:59:36,800 --> 00:59:39,840
Speaker 2: Like who wouldn't want to be able to jump, you know,

1032
00:59:40,040 --> 00:59:43,280
Speaker 2: the tour building. It's essentially superhero powers. But how do

1033
00:59:43,360 --> 00:59:46,880
Speaker 2: you feel about the ultimate question of like, when you

1034
00:59:46,960 --> 00:59:49,920
Speaker 2: transfer your consciousness into that body at this point is

1035
00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:52,920
Speaker 2: essentially company property rather than you know, dying in a

1036
00:59:52,960 --> 00:59:55,360
Speaker 2: body that is free. I think that's like a big question.

1037
00:59:56,360 --> 01:00:00,320
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, listen, we haven't seen the drawback yet,

1038
01:00:00,320 --> 01:00:03,160
Speaker 1: but there clearly must be drawbacks. Among these drawbacks is

1039
01:00:03,200 --> 01:00:08,280
Speaker 1: the fact that in a in a real sense, Wendy

1040
01:00:08,480 --> 01:00:14,960
Speaker 1: died and this is like a conscious mission exactly because

1041
01:00:16,760 --> 01:00:19,760
Speaker 1: it's not like when you as a person like move

1042
01:00:19,800 --> 01:00:22,320
Speaker 1: into a new apartment and you go there and you've

1043
01:00:22,400 --> 01:00:24,640
Speaker 1: left your old apartment and now you're in this new apartment.

1044
01:00:25,600 --> 01:00:30,120
Speaker 1: They made a copy of her brain waves, she died,

1045
01:00:30,360 --> 01:00:33,960
Speaker 1: and they put the copy in something else. So yeah,

1046
01:00:34,080 --> 01:00:36,600
Speaker 1: I mean there's a lot of there's a lot of

1047
01:00:36,640 --> 01:00:39,520
Speaker 1: things to mull over. And clearly, I think if you

1048
01:00:39,640 --> 01:00:44,280
Speaker 1: just look at the scope of human ambition, there are

1049
01:00:44,280 --> 01:00:45,280
Speaker 1: people who want to do this.

1050
01:00:45,760 --> 01:00:49,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is like something that people are walking towards now.

1051
01:00:49,640 --> 01:00:56,280
Speaker 1: Yes, And I think what's interesting is the fact that

1052
01:00:59,200 --> 01:01:02,960
Speaker 1: by trying to escape death, you're essentially hastening it. I

1053
01:01:03,000 --> 01:01:05,040
Speaker 1: think that there's a lot of there's a lot of

1054
01:01:05,080 --> 01:01:09,000
Speaker 1: things to talk about here and the effects of a

1055
01:01:09,240 --> 01:01:15,080
Speaker 1: completely governed, autocratic compt space I think is that in

1056
01:01:15,120 --> 01:01:19,240
Speaker 1: which no private property exists, Like you don't even again,

1057
01:01:19,320 --> 01:01:21,760
Speaker 1: like as you said, you don't even own your own body.

1058
01:01:21,960 --> 01:01:25,200
Speaker 2: Yeah. Even the rich, even that rich guy who lives

1059
01:01:25,240 --> 01:01:28,920
Speaker 2: in his you know, high rise style eighty fifth floor apartment,

1060
01:01:29,000 --> 01:01:32,480
Speaker 2: even he to the point where, like he believes if

1061
01:01:32,480 --> 01:01:35,120
Speaker 2: something goes wrong, boy Genius will call him and let

1062
01:01:35,200 --> 01:01:37,919
Speaker 2: him know, even he doesn't have like full autonomy over

1063
01:01:37,960 --> 01:01:40,800
Speaker 2: his home, or his safety or his situation. Because in

1064
01:01:40,800 --> 01:01:44,320
Speaker 2: that moment, despite being rich and doing whatever weird creepy

1065
01:01:44,320 --> 01:01:46,800
Speaker 2: shit he wants to do, boy Genius is like, well,

1066
01:01:46,880 --> 01:01:50,000
Speaker 2: that's a sacrifice I'm willing to make. So essentially everyone

1067
01:01:50,080 --> 01:01:53,120
Speaker 2: is a sacrifice that he can make in this situation.

1068
01:01:53,840 --> 01:01:54,120
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1069
01:01:54,160 --> 01:01:57,439
Speaker 2: So I'm very intrigued to see where the show goes

1070
01:01:57,480 --> 01:02:00,840
Speaker 2: from here, and I'm especially it's been you know, it's

1071
01:02:00,920 --> 01:02:03,160
Speaker 2: kind of rare that we get two shows in a

1072
01:02:03,240 --> 01:02:06,480
Speaker 2: year where every single review is like nine out of ten,

1073
01:02:06,560 --> 01:02:09,440
Speaker 2: ten out of ten. And that was really and Or first,

1074
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Speaker 2: and now we're getting that with these reviews. We are

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Speaker 2: just doing as we always do. We're going as we go.

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Speaker 2: So these are our two episodes that we've seen, but

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Speaker 2: Jason watt'sake, what would be the biggest surprise for you

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Speaker 2: as we head into the surprise?

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Speaker 1: I guess the thing that I'm most wondering is are

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Speaker 1: we going to witness the downfall of the Prodigy Corporation?

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Speaker 1: I feel like it just right? How much does the

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Speaker 1: lure established by Alien and Aliens in which Prodigy does

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Speaker 1: not exist? Right? Or like, certainly by aliens we never

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Speaker 1: hear about it. You only hear about wheland U Tani,

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Speaker 1: and there's like illusions to other corporations, but you don't

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Speaker 1: really hear about it, and certainly you don't. There are

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Speaker 1: not even hints that anything like a hybrid exists. So

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Speaker 1: is this the downfall of that corporation? Is that what

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Speaker 1: we are witnesses? Or is there going to be a

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Speaker 1: way for the lure to expand around what was established

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Speaker 1: by those first two films? That's my question? What about Yeah?

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Speaker 2: No, I think that's I want to know how Prodigy

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Speaker 2: goes so wrong and how Prodigy ends up in a

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Speaker 2: situation where whaling Utani is the only kind of corporate

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Speaker 2: overlord that we know of the planet by the time

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Speaker 2: you know, we get to Alien. Also, I am really

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Speaker 2: interested to see where Noah Howley takes this exploration of

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Speaker 2: childhood and Peter Pan because you know, it's very heavy

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Speaker 2: handed in the first episode. It works for me because

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Speaker 2: I generally enjoy a show that can do an interesting

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Speaker 2: version of a story about children. And I feel like,

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Speaker 2: so far, especially with episode two where we get the

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Speaker 2: adult actors really embodying that childishness, I think this is

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Speaker 2: a very interesting take, but I want to know ten

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Speaker 2: episodes in what that really means. I want to know

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Speaker 2: the mystery box kind of reasoning for that. And I'm

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Speaker 2: I'm also like, I have to say Boy Cavalier, like

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01:04:10,320 --> 01:04:13,880
Speaker 2: is such an easily haterable character, which is always fun

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Speaker 2: to have, But I have to say, like what else,

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Speaker 2: as you feel Samuel Blankin is like such a good actor.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, I also don't believe in any way, shape

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Speaker 2: or form that Noah Hawley ever just does a simple,

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Speaker 2: like MS bad character. Like I want to know the

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Speaker 2: truth about him. I mean, is Boy Cavalier a synth

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Speaker 2: who was created by Waylan Utani? Like I don't know,

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Speaker 2: you know, Like there's I'm just always interested to see

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Speaker 2: where we're going to go, and I do think surprising

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Speaker 2: synth and who is a surprising synth that could be

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Speaker 2: a very big twist headed into the later show, simply

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Speaker 2: because that's something that all alien movies always have, and

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Speaker 2: I kind of think that we are going to be

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Speaker 2: on the lookout for, like, you know, is it is

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Speaker 2: this the new David? Is this the person who you

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Speaker 2: know has that twist behind them? Who's really being controlled?

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Speaker 2: The kind of notion of the freedom of Well, you've

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Speaker 2: got choices of which corporate state you live in. Maybe

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01:05:15,200 --> 01:05:17,760
Speaker 2: there isn't really five, maybe there's three, maybe there's one,

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Speaker 2: and this is the illusion of choice. I'm excited to

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Speaker 2: see where the threads and seeds that are set out

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Speaker 2: here kind of lead as we head in. And I'm

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Speaker 2: also just like really excited to see more fucking xenomorphs,

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Speaker 2: because like the aliens look so good in this show,

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01:05:37,280 --> 01:05:40,919
Speaker 2: Like they look money, money, money. This isn't better than

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Speaker 2: like fifty percent of alien movies visually.

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Speaker 1: Can I yeah, please this with something ominous? Yes, I

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Speaker 1: see the human body like bodybag gets zipped up, but

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Speaker 1: like once they're transferred and thought to be dead, they

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01:06:01,440 --> 01:06:04,440
Speaker 1: kind of don't exist anymore, and we don't know that

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Speaker 1: the rest of them are dead. Hm hmm, you know,

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Speaker 1: like they could be somewhere. This could also be a

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Speaker 1: I mean, these kids are off the books anyway.

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Speaker 2: Maybe the kids don't even say off.

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Speaker 1: The books are like, how do we know that? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: like they're not still alive somewhere.

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Speaker 2: Oh so ominis and I love it. That's horrifying.

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Speaker 1: Well, I can't wait to see where this goes. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: really fun show Friday on Extra Vision. It's another episode

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Speaker 1: of Popcorn Pop Out with Nobody Too. That's it for

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Speaker 1: this episode. Thanks for listening. Bye x ray Vision is

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Speaker 1: hosted by Jason Concepcion and Rosy Night and is a

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Speaker 1: production of iHeart Podcasts.

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Speaker 2: Our executive producers are Joe Alminique and Aaron Kolefman.

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Speaker 1: Our supervising producer is Abusa.

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Speaker 2: Part All produces are Common, Laurent Dean, Jonathan and Bay Wag.

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Speaker 1: The theme song is by Brian Vasquez, with alternate theme

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Speaker 1: songs by Aaron Kaufman.

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Speaker 2: Special thanks to Soul Rubin, Chris Lord, Kenny Goodman and

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Speaker 2: Heidi our discord moderator.