1 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:23,599 Speaker 1: Hello everyone, and well the episode one two eight of 2 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:26,079 Speaker 1: the Ever Territory podcast. I am your host, Brad Rowland, 3 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 1: coming to you on a Sunday here in it's really 4 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:32,480 Speaker 1: holiday week in late December, and I'm joined my friend 5 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 1: Scott Coleman. Are normal time slots, Scott, it's also an 6 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 1: old podcast. 7 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 2: What's going on? Hello, Brad? Maybe in old podcast form. 8 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 2: We will release the show and moments later there will 9 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:45,960 Speaker 2: be a transaction as we said here, as you said 10 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:50,640 Speaker 2: a couple of days before Christmas, still radio silence. I mean, 11 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 2: I was thinking about this earlier. What is the biggest 12 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 2: quote rumor unquote that we've had. Is it that John 13 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 2: Morossi said the Braves are kind of interested in bringing 14 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:03,120 Speaker 2: back old friend in aj mentor? 15 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 1: Is that? 16 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 2: Is that the rumor so far the off season. I 17 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:09,760 Speaker 2: don't know, man, It's it has been very dry in 18 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 2: these streets. 19 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, of the rumors that still have some relevance of 20 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:15,920 Speaker 1: guys who have not signed yet, that's definitely the leader 21 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:17,440 Speaker 1: in the club house. There were there were a couple 22 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 1: of Nathany Valdi ties that became irrelevant, you know, those 23 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 1: kinds of things. But yeah, I think the pickings are 24 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 1: pretty slim, but certainly that is one that is out there. 25 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 1: AJA is still unsigned as we're recording this podcast, so 26 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 1: the dream still lives on. But welcome to the podcast 27 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:36,200 Speaker 1: for everybody one. Please check out the show and subscribe 28 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 1: anywhere you find your podcast. We're part of valid territory, 29 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:41,400 Speaker 1: you know, if anywhere you find podcasts basically on the 30 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:43,399 Speaker 1: audio side and the and on video. If you want 31 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:45,760 Speaker 1: to watch Scott and I or Sean and Stephen in 32 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 1: video form, we encourage you to do so and like 33 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 1: the video as you're watching it on YouTube. Look, there's 34 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 1: not a ton of news, but there is one transaction 35 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 1: we'll get to. Plus one member of the roster from 36 00:01:57,440 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 1: last year is not going to be in the roster 37 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:02,880 Speaker 1: this year. Rise necessarily, but old pal g Orshella is 38 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 1: off the market. He is now a member of the 39 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 1: something Athletics. I'm not sure what's he even call them? 40 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 1: I mean, I think right now are they Aren't they 41 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:14,360 Speaker 1: just the athletics. There's no like officially they're just the athletics, 42 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:16,800 Speaker 1: but the sacramento is whatever. 43 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 2: They Yeah, I believe that is correct. I believe they're 44 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:21,840 Speaker 2: just the athletics. I don't know if they even bothered 45 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:26,079 Speaker 2: with like a trademark for Sacramento. But now there's drama 46 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 2: about whether or not they're ever even going to play 47 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 2: in Vegas. Oakland is a basically and now who knows, Brad, 48 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:34,800 Speaker 2: maybe they're gonna they might play in your backyard. The 49 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 2: way this is going, uh they that is a very 50 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:41,080 Speaker 2: ugly situation. But yes, good for Geo Orshella. It sounds 51 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:42,919 Speaker 2: like Geo is gonna get a chance to be the 52 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 2: third baseman for Oakland. And we know that he did 53 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:49,400 Speaker 2: a really nice job for this team, especially down the stretch. 54 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 2: Team was basically drawing dead without Austin Riley and Orchella 55 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:56,359 Speaker 2: gave him a lot, not just offensively but defensively too, 56 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 2: So good for him. Just over two million bucks. I 57 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:01,960 Speaker 2: think he can be three million dollars if Geo hit 58 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 2: some incentives. And I think we knew wou'd be tough 59 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 2: for him to come back to Atlanta, but good for 60 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:09,359 Speaker 2: him for landing on somewhere and presumably I'll get a 61 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 2: chance to play every day. 62 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, we didn't rule it out that he would come back, 63 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 1: but certainly was not expected to come back by any means, 64 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:17,800 Speaker 1: and there wasn't a huge role for him in Atlanta 65 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:20,239 Speaker 1: no matter what. So yeah, coograss to him a good 66 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 1: spot to kind of land for him. In general, I 67 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:25,640 Speaker 1: think he is basically a super low end starting caliber 68 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:28,079 Speaker 1: player and Oakland is the super low end, and that 69 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 1: makes some sense for all parties like he's. He can 70 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 1: be a starter of there, hopefully have a good season, 71 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 1: get paid some and then we'll see what happens. The 72 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 1: Braves did make, though I believe this is this correct s, 73 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 1: guy can correct me if I'm wrong, their first move 74 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:42,840 Speaker 1: of the off season that actually acquired a player on 75 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 1: a major league contract. Am I right about this? I 76 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 1: think I am. But they acquired a rightheaded pitcher named 77 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 1: Davis Daniel from the Angels in exchange for minor league 78 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 1: lefty Mitch Ferris. This happened a couple of days ago. 79 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 1: Did we joke about emergency podcast? Yes we did, or 80 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 1: were actually going to do one for Davis Daniel. All 81 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 1: due respect, we were not, but hey, here we are, 82 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 1: and hey, they traded for a player that we don't. Honestly, 83 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 1: I'll be honest with you, Scott, I'd never heard of 84 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 1: in my life. But he's on a midgor league contract, 85 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 1: So what's going on? What do we make of this? 86 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:20,360 Speaker 2: So Davis Daniel, I think, for one, alex Enthopolis and 87 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 2: Perry manassion must have like a contractual obligation to trade 88 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 2: with each other because it's been only a couple of years, 89 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:29,359 Speaker 2: and it feels like we're good for at least a 90 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:34,280 Speaker 2: few moves every single calendar year. But you know, it 91 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 2: is a I think we'll say this. I think in 92 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 2: terms of who Davis Daniel is, he is a twenty 93 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 2: seven year old journeyman at this point, He's made the 94 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 2: major leagues, He's he made a couple of starts with 95 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 2: the Angels last season. Interestingly enough, Davis Daniel actually threw 96 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 2: eight scoreless innings in the first start of his career 97 00:04:56,920 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 2: this past summer, eight scoreless with eight strikeout against a 98 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 2: pretty hot Detroit Tigers team at the time. But then 99 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 2: after that he got blown up in basically every start. 100 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:09,839 Speaker 2: And for a twenty seven year old journeyman, that's not 101 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:12,479 Speaker 2: a big surprise by any means. But I'm guessing that, 102 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 2: like maybe a half dozen others in the station right now, 103 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:19,279 Speaker 2: Davis Daniel, he's going to be in the mix. He 104 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 2: could presumably fill in as like a fifth or sixth starter, type. 105 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 2: Maybe they put him in the bullpen to eat innings 106 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 2: if they need that Jesse Chavez role, or very crucially 107 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 2: and importantly here, Davis Daniel has a minor league option 108 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:35,840 Speaker 2: which puts him in play for Gwinnett. If I had 109 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 2: to bet money, I would say that is where Davis 110 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 2: will spend most of the year. But again, he's an 111 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 2: arm he's been at the major league level before. And 112 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:45,159 Speaker 2: we'll do our usual bit now that you need a 113 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:47,359 Speaker 2: whole bunch of pitchers to cover one hundred and sixty 114 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:48,680 Speaker 2: two regular season games. 115 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:53,039 Speaker 1: Yeah, and look, when I saw the deal come across, 116 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 1: I honestly assume as he's a reliever, just because I 117 00:05:56,520 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 1: hadn't heard of him, and because of just what the 118 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:02,599 Speaker 1: mark it generally is, like a reliever I haven't heard 119 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 1: of is more likely to be a a real bullpen 120 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 1: piece than a starter I've never heard of, If that 121 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 1: makes sense. I'm not saying that I know everything about baseball, 122 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:11,120 Speaker 1: but that's just the math of it all. Like there's 123 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 1: some relievers around around the league that have been pretty 124 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:15,600 Speaker 1: good that I just don't know anything about, sure, and 125 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:19,159 Speaker 1: I just will be honest about that. But he's a 126 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 1: starter by all accounts like maybe maybe they see something 127 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 1: in him that they like. But he's been a starter 128 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:26,600 Speaker 1: basically across the board. Nine ever. Sent of his minor 129 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:29,559 Speaker 1: league appearances are more as a starter, and the majors 130 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 1: he's been a starter for the most part. The profile 131 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:35,840 Speaker 1: of his offerings that we can see from the stats 132 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 1: from stack cast, from the numbers is basically starter. Like 133 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:40,920 Speaker 1: he doesn't throw hard, for instance, like he sits in 134 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 1: the low nineties. He's not a guy who is going 135 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:45,720 Speaker 1: to blow you away. He does have some good breaking 136 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 1: stuff by all accounts, Like he's on some prospect lists 137 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 1: dating back, even though he's not a prospect age anymore. 138 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:52,719 Speaker 1: He's twenty seven years old, but he was not like 139 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:55,240 Speaker 1: a total non prospect. He's been on them. He's been 140 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:57,360 Speaker 1: on the radar for fangrafts and pipeline like he's been 141 00:06:57,360 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 1: on some of these lists the last couple of years. 142 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:03,040 Speaker 1: But yeah, I think that certainly, how doing minor of 143 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 1: the option is huge. I don't I kind of doubt 144 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 1: to make the stray if he doesn't have a minor 145 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 1: the option, to be honest, and you know, you put 146 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:11,640 Speaker 1: him in the mix with all those days that we 147 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:13,680 Speaker 1: always throw out there he's not as talented as the 148 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 1: you know, Waldrop Smith Shaber guys, but in that next 149 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 1: year down where he might be your eighth, ninth, tenth 150 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 1: guy in the in the organization for next year. And 151 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 1: you've said it already, but you need twelve thirteen guys 152 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 1: of course of the season, and maybe he's this year's 153 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 1: version of Allan Winans or whatever, like maybe that's that's 154 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 1: kind of the level that I'm seeing based on what 155 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 1: I've been able to find from his profilelicancy. 156 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he's kind of profiles more of that 157 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 2: innings eater type. And with a lot of off season 158 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 2: to go, we don't know who's going to get moved 159 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 2: in and out of the organization. Maybe the Braves swing 160 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 2: a deal or two and Bryce Elder gets moved or 161 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 2: Alan Winings gets moved or ag Smith Schaver or Ian 162 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 2: Anderson or one of these types who are at the 163 00:07:56,880 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 2: moment you're going to be in the mix to make 164 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 2: starts for the Braves at some point next year, even 165 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 2: if they are not super encouraging options. You always need depth. 166 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 2: Gwinnette needs starters, and you can blink and all of 167 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 2: a sudden you were in search of somebody to make 168 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 2: a start on a Wednesday afternoon against the Marlins on 169 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 2: getaway day, and if you got to hand them all 170 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 2: to Davis Daniel, then you do it and cross your 171 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 2: fingers and hope for five innings. But that's kind of 172 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 2: I think the big takeaway is it's a depth piece. 173 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 2: He has a minor league option, and who knows, maybe 174 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 2: at some point this regular season we will do a 175 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:32,320 Speaker 2: one of our podcasts and talk about him making a start. 176 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 2: But I'm gonna guess again, unless you go to a 177 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 2: lot of Gwenette Striper games, you're probably gonna see very 178 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 2: little of him in Atlanta. 179 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I would. Maybe maybe it's a fun 180 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 1: over under of will he make a measure week start 181 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 1: or not? With the Braves, I think I actually might 182 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 1: say yes at this moment, only because I am just 183 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 1: to stay with our bit of how many guys make starts. 184 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 1: I think I probably would say yes, But it might 185 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 1: be exactly one for exmstance. It might be one of 186 00:08:57,640 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 1: those like we don't see it coming, somebody gets back 187 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 1: up being in another arm that's available that day, Like 188 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 1: it's half the time, it's a lot. It's about who's 189 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:07,079 Speaker 1: who stretched out in that moment when you have an injury, 190 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 1: that's like lined up. That's how you get to some 191 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 1: guys that you never would have maybe gotten to before. 192 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 1: So okay, okay, Scott, it over under one and sorry, 193 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 1: over over zero point five starts for David. 194 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:20,719 Speaker 2: Daniel, I will take the over. I can already hear 195 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 2: the crazy outrage when Chris Sale or Ronaldo Lopez are 196 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 2: said to make an afternoon start and the Braves have 197 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:31,360 Speaker 2: an off day the next day, and someone goes, gee, 198 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 2: we could give Chris Sale forty eight hours off if 199 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 2: we have Davis Daniel make a spot start today, Let's 200 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 2: do it. And of course then the internet gets set 201 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:43,679 Speaker 2: on fire and the Braves lose what they probably should 202 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:46,400 Speaker 2: have won in a baseball game, and then we talk 203 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:50,080 Speaker 2: about it. But yeah, over under half of a start, yeah, 204 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 2: I'll say he makes hopefully not more than one. 205 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 1: Brad, I don't know. 206 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:56,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, there are stories of guys in like their late 207 00:09:56,520 --> 00:10:01,080 Speaker 2: twenties getting a chance and finally breaking through, But yeah, 208 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:03,679 Speaker 2: I'm not banking on that by any. 209 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:06,840 Speaker 1: Means, right, and not to reiterate it too much, but 210 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 1: I don't think that he is necessarily the profile of 211 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 1: guy that Alex does tend to look at sometimes of 212 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:13,959 Speaker 1: like an upside play he doesn't really have. It's not 213 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:16,120 Speaker 1: an upside play, I don't think. I think it's like 214 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 1: truly it sees something they like in him. They've on 215 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 1: the profile. I don't imagine it's probably probably the breaking stuff, 216 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:24,200 Speaker 1: like his current and slider have good numbers, for instance, 217 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 1: but his velocity as a starter, like, I don't really 218 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:30,720 Speaker 1: think that's a huge upside swing for them, especially at 219 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 1: this age. But maybe they just have maybe a little 220 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:35,200 Speaker 1: old tweak here, a little tweak air there, or maybe 221 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 1: he's maybe they think he's gonna be a somehow gonna 222 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:39,080 Speaker 1: be a good reliever, like he's a stream reliever to me. 223 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:42,720 Speaker 1: But that's an option too. So also they didn't trade 224 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:44,720 Speaker 1: much of anything. Mitch Ferris is a name that I 225 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 1: recognize from the Brave System, a fourteenth round pick from 226 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 1: twenty twenty three, but he was not in the Battery 227 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 1: Power Top thirty, which is not gospel. But I tend 228 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 1: to trust those guys pretty well on the system. Pretty 229 00:10:56,240 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 1: fringy prospect, like not someone who I'm going to show 230 00:10:58,760 --> 00:11:02,120 Speaker 1: a tear about trading in December. So all in all, 231 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 1: it's a transaction Scott. We covered it. 232 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:07,439 Speaker 2: It is a transaction. God, let us hope there are 233 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 2: bigger transactions around the corner. But yes, we would be 234 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 2: remiss to not at least talk about it because he 235 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 2: is on the forty man roster and I think you're 236 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 2: right that they have not added a guaranteed contract if 237 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 2: you will a player who has to be on the 238 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:24,680 Speaker 2: forty man. Yeah, so we'll see maybe at some point 239 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:28,080 Speaker 2: Davis Daniel World Series Hero for the twenty twenty five 240 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:31,080 Speaker 2: Atlanta Braves. We will sing about him the way we 241 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 2: sing about Tyler Matzik and Eddie Rosario. 242 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:37,720 Speaker 1: All Right, the rest of today's show will be mail 243 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 1: bag questions in holiday mail bag style. We are still 244 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 1: hoping that this show becomes outdated in the next couple 245 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:46,840 Speaker 1: of days, and if that happens, we'll record again. But 246 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 1: here we are mail bag a couple of like players 247 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 1: to the questions like trade target questions, which we don't 248 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:55,440 Speaker 1: do a ton of. But the first one we got 249 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 1: was actually about Hayesu Sanchez from the Marlins backstory. There 250 00:11:59,840 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 1: is that the Marlins have been similarly selling even more 251 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 1: than even usual recently. They've traded some guys in the 252 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 1: last couple of days. I would say, head by by 253 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:13,480 Speaker 1: Lozardo to Philadelphia on Sunday. The Marlins are always doing this, 254 00:12:13,640 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 1: I guess. But what do you make of heyesu Sanchez 255 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 1: is potential target in the outfield, as you know, someone 256 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:20,440 Speaker 1: that people keep asking about. 257 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's pretty clear that the Marlins are going 258 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:27,600 Speaker 2: to do a rebuild of some kind. You mentioned Zeus 259 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:32,839 Speaker 2: Lozardo was traded to Philadelphia. Jake Berger, who just tormented 260 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 2: the Braves last year. Jake Berger has been traded away 261 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:39,080 Speaker 2: as well. So I mean, the Marlins are not going 262 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 2: to be Chicago White Sox bad, but they might lose 263 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 2: like one hundred and ten games next year, Brad, and 264 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:48,959 Speaker 2: they're going to be very bad in a really good 265 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 2: NL East. But to get back to Jesus Sanchez an 266 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 2: interesting player. He's twenty seven years old, he has three 267 00:12:57,320 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 2: years of arbitration to go, so he's cheap, been cost effective. 268 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 2: Now on the whole, Jesus Sanchez has a ninety nine 269 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:09,680 Speaker 2: career WRC plus, which is very average. Nobody is going 270 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 2: to get super excited about a twenty seven year old 271 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:17,040 Speaker 2: with a ninety nine WRC plus. But he hits the 272 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:20,080 Speaker 2: baseball very hard and he has been a big time 273 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:25,719 Speaker 2: underperformer of what his expected metrics say he should have done. 274 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:28,080 Speaker 2: Those are two things that Alex and THOPPLSS and the 275 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:30,600 Speaker 2: front office have looked for in the past with players 276 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:33,920 Speaker 2: on the surface, guys who maybe aren't great or don't 277 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:37,080 Speaker 2: have big time production. But there are things in Sanchez's 278 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:40,080 Speaker 2: profile that would lead me to believe that. I'm guessing 279 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 2: that his name has come up at some point this 280 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:44,600 Speaker 2: winter as the Braves try to figure out who they 281 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 2: are going to add for left field. So an interesting name, nonetheless, 282 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:51,400 Speaker 2: and if Miami is willing to trade him, I don't 283 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 2: think they have any objection to trading within the division 284 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:58,440 Speaker 2: because obviously they just traded Lozardo to Philadelphia. You know, 285 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:02,360 Speaker 2: he Hazus. Sanchez is an interesting enough name for a 286 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:04,959 Speaker 2: couple of reasons for me, a player who I could 287 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 2: see the Braves being interested in if maybe they strike 288 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 2: out on other options in the outfield. 289 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, I wish he was the opposite profile, like to 290 00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:16,600 Speaker 1: where he would fit with Kelnick, for example, But he 291 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 1: and Kellemick both hit raise much better than lefties, which 292 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:22,280 Speaker 1: makes that pairing together not exactly ideal. But yeah, I 293 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 1: could definitely see the Braves liking Sanchez, and I checked 294 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:28,360 Speaker 1: while you were talking. The Marlins are currently projected as 295 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:30,360 Speaker 1: of third worst team in baseball in the Betty market, 296 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 1: ahead of only the White Sox and the Rockies. So 297 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:34,840 Speaker 1: that kind of tells you where they are not going 298 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:36,920 Speaker 1: to be good and if they're going to sell even further. 299 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 1: It's not a bad idea. I don't mind this. I 300 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:42,120 Speaker 1: think that he is better than they could do in 301 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:46,400 Speaker 1: some spots in the corner with other guys. To be clear, 302 00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:49,240 Speaker 1: we've not heard anything about this as like an actual topic, 303 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 1: but a name that I had not super considered. And 304 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 1: if the Marlins are going to lean into the void, yeah, 305 00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 1: if you're good cheap enough, why not you don't want 306 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 1: to pay market value. I don't think for him, maybe 307 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 1: unless they just really love him for some reason, but 308 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:06,440 Speaker 1: I think a name to keep in mind any's cheap. 309 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 1: I mean not that that is gonna placate any fans 310 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:11,560 Speaker 1: right now that the Braves are because you know, Scott 311 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 1: the race are really really everyone wants to tell us 312 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 1: they're really cheap. I believe they finished fifth last year 313 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:20,000 Speaker 1: in payroll. Officially this week that was a square whee 314 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:23,480 Speaker 1: bit by baseball. So the fifth largest payroll in baseball, 315 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:25,000 Speaker 1: super cheap, just. 316 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:29,840 Speaker 2: Saying, yeah, I know it's a never ending battle payroll 317 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 2: in the Atlanta Braves and their fans. Name a better argument, 318 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 2: never ending, never dying argument between That's right, you know, 319 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:40,960 Speaker 2: But I guess to put a ball on Sanchez again. 320 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:42,960 Speaker 2: As you said, it's not like this has been heavily 321 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:45,960 Speaker 2: rumored or anything, but it was conjecture and we got 322 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 2: a question about it. But just to give you a 323 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 2: quick breakdown as to why I'm interested, Sanchez last season 324 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:56,360 Speaker 2: had a one eighteen WRC plus against right handed pitching, 325 00:15:56,720 --> 00:16:01,800 Speaker 2: which is quite good. Against lefties, he had a third worst, 326 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 2: so you literally can never have him face a left 327 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:08,840 Speaker 2: handed pitcher. But I think something that this podcast has 328 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 2: been banging the table on for a long time. The 329 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 2: Braves need to have more capable left handed hitters in 330 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 2: the lineup. They need to be able to play matchups better, 331 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:21,320 Speaker 2: because that's something that really comes into play in the postseason. 332 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 2: You think about the Braves's offensive woes the last couple 333 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 2: of years, they have almost exclusively seen right handed pitching 334 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 2: in the playoffs and they have done nothing against it. 335 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 2: I mean, full stop, they have been flat out terrible 336 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 2: offensively three years in a row. Now, I'm not saying 337 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:41,040 Speaker 2: jous Sanchez is Barry Bonds and he's going to carry 338 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:44,040 Speaker 2: this team deep into the playoffs, but he's an interesting name. 339 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:47,360 Speaker 2: He's a cheap player, or a cheap enough player, and 340 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 2: if you could add him as a left handed power 341 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 2: bat in the middle of your order, you're also getting 342 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 2: him out of Miami, which is just awful at developing 343 00:16:55,880 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 2: hitting talent, whereas the Braves are usually quite good. So 344 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:02,000 Speaker 2: he's an interesting And again, if if we could peek 345 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:04,480 Speaker 2: into Alex's office and look at all the names on 346 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:07,680 Speaker 2: their whiteboard in the corner, I would guess that Sanchez 347 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:09,920 Speaker 2: is on there somewhere. He may be like a fifth 348 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 2: or a sixth option, but again, an interesting player and 349 00:17:13,080 --> 00:17:15,240 Speaker 2: someone who does some things the Braves could really use. 350 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:18,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, and looking at his profile, he did have what 351 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:22,680 Speaker 1: I would call a legitimate batted ball profile breakout last year, 352 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:24,920 Speaker 1: Like it didn't show up in the in the actual 353 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 1: numbers as far as, like you know, Ops was concerned. 354 00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:29,760 Speaker 1: But it's about a boldy that was really good last 355 00:17:29,800 --> 00:17:32,719 Speaker 1: season and a guy that Alex does like those kind 356 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:34,360 Speaker 1: of guys where it's like, Hey, this guy hasn't quite 357 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:37,120 Speaker 1: popped yet, but there's reasons under the surface to say 358 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:40,119 Speaker 1: that he might just could be a could be interesting 359 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:42,520 Speaker 1: an interesting fit. And you're right, I mean, I can 360 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:45,160 Speaker 1: just I can hear our colleague Steven Tolbert talking about 361 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:48,280 Speaker 1: the need for a righty masher, so a left handed 362 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:50,720 Speaker 1: guy who can smash right handed pitching, and perhaps that's 363 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:54,640 Speaker 1: he substantius, so we will see, all right, Scott. Similarly 364 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:58,720 Speaker 1: more of a general question than a mailbag question. But 365 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:02,439 Speaker 1: people keep asking a Boba Schett, who we've mentioned on 366 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:06,000 Speaker 1: the show. I think at some point in our myriad 367 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:09,159 Speaker 1: shortstop discussions over the last I don't even want to 368 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:11,240 Speaker 1: say how long. It's been a long time we've talked 369 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:15,239 Speaker 1: about shortstop as an upgrade point. But our colleague from 370 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:19,760 Speaker 1: foul Territory, Ken Rosenthal, talked about Bashett being available quote 371 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:25,199 Speaker 1: at a high price this week in trade. My response, 372 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:26,480 Speaker 1: and I just saw that I brought this down. I 373 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:29,600 Speaker 1: forgot about this that a high price is relative, Scott. 374 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:32,399 Speaker 1: A high price is a high price is different from 375 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 1: other people for certain people. So if it actually is 376 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 1: a super high price for is it one year of control? Yeah, 377 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:41,720 Speaker 1: one year of control on Boba Sheet. That would be 378 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:43,680 Speaker 1: a kind of a tough sell for one year of control. 379 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:47,800 Speaker 1: But if it's more of a modest price or look, 380 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:49,920 Speaker 1: he's he's not gonna be free, I'll say that right now. 381 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:53,480 Speaker 1: But Boba Sheet is extremely talented. So what do you 382 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:56,640 Speaker 1: make of this potential link And again not a rumor 383 00:18:56,680 --> 00:18:58,919 Speaker 1: for the Braves yet, but a guy that is at 384 00:18:58,920 --> 00:18:59,720 Speaker 1: a position of need. 385 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 2: So I think with Boba Shed and we talked about 386 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:05,919 Speaker 2: him a bit during the middle of the season, just 387 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:09,359 Speaker 2: before the trade deadline, but you would be buying low 388 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:13,159 Speaker 2: on a talented player. I mean, that's that's really what 389 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:15,520 Speaker 2: this would be. Because if the Braves tried to trade 390 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:19,040 Speaker 2: for Bobashett a year ago, the price would have been astronomical. 391 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:21,359 Speaker 1: Well, well there would there would there would have a 392 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:23,640 Speaker 1: better price they would allowed to check probably a year. 393 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:23,960 Speaker 2: Yeah. 394 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:24,440 Speaker 1: Yeah. 395 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:28,240 Speaker 2: And there's still a little bit of question over Toronto 396 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:33,200 Speaker 2: and like what they're trying to do. They have some 397 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:37,159 Speaker 2: talented players on expiring contracts, and they're also like the 398 00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 2: maybe the worst team in the NL East or the 399 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 2: AL East right now. So I don't know what Toronto's 400 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 2: doing and they have done very little this winter, but 401 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:49,960 Speaker 2: you know Bishett from basically his debut in twenty nineteen 402 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:53,879 Speaker 2: up through twenty twenty three, he was like a top 403 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:59,399 Speaker 2: five offensive shortstop, a one hundred and twenty eight WRC plus, 404 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:02,720 Speaker 2: which is very very good. Defensively, there are some questions 405 00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:06,440 Speaker 2: he's not very good defensively. I think down the road, 406 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:08,640 Speaker 2: Bishett is not going to be a shortstop and they're 407 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:11,400 Speaker 2: going to have to probably move him. But for one 408 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 2: more year, I think Bishett could handle short and lo 409 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 2: and behold. The Braves have a need at shortstop. And 410 00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:20,520 Speaker 2: the reason that Bishett is available is because he was 411 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:23,720 Speaker 2: just flat out bad and injured for all of twenty 412 00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:26,919 Speaker 2: twenty four. I think he played in about eighty games, 413 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:29,879 Speaker 2: but he was never healthy. I think he hit the 414 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:33,480 Speaker 2: injured list multiple times, and even when he was out there. 415 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 2: I know I was doing reading during the middle of 416 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:38,159 Speaker 2: the season and a Blue Jays beat writer said, just 417 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 2: Bishett does not look like himself. He's not driving the ball. 418 00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:44,199 Speaker 2: He looks very slow in the field, like he was 419 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 2: clearly just not healthy and trying to play through it. 420 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:50,720 Speaker 2: So again, no direct rumor on the Braves and Bishett, 421 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:54,160 Speaker 2: but an interesting player because frankly, there's only a couple 422 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:57,720 Speaker 2: of shortstops who are even presumably available right now, who 423 00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:01,800 Speaker 2: are better than Orlando Arcia and Bashett In some ways, 424 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:04,160 Speaker 2: is kind of like a oh okay, I could see 425 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:07,240 Speaker 2: the Braves going out and trying to buy low strike 426 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:09,199 Speaker 2: gold the way they kind of struck gold on a 427 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 2: Josh Donaldson, for example, a one year deal, and then 428 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:15,680 Speaker 2: you probably shake hands and say thanks so much. We're 429 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:18,359 Speaker 2: you know, we're not interested beyond twenty twenty five. 430 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:22,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, I would suppose that's probably the case, especially because 431 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:25,639 Speaker 1: of the defense. Like, not only is there the contractual stuff, 432 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 1: but I don't think that Alex would cross him off 433 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 1: because of the defense for right now, given where they 434 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:34,400 Speaker 1: are at shortstop. But long term, I don't think that the 435 00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:37,520 Speaker 1: Braves want a defensive liability at shortstop. I think they 436 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:41,560 Speaker 1: want a good or better defender at shortstop. Maybe not 437 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:44,879 Speaker 1: again I say want not nee, but they might just 438 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 1: at a certain point, if you that's the that's the 439 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 1: guy you can get. You just take you bite the 440 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:51,359 Speaker 1: bullet and you hold on for dear life and surround it. 441 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:53,920 Speaker 1: But especially given where Ozzie is at second not where 442 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:55,960 Speaker 1: he used to be for example, like you might want 443 00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:58,520 Speaker 1: a better defender at Shwarts stop. But Bobasha it's a 444 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:01,320 Speaker 1: lot more talented than the options they have available, and 445 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:04,359 Speaker 1: uh yeah, maybe maybe a one year thing. But again 446 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:06,240 Speaker 1: that's why you don't want to you know, there is 447 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:08,160 Speaker 1: a limit. It's a tough market because you don't want 448 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:10,440 Speaker 1: to overpay for a guy for one season when you 449 00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:12,240 Speaker 1: think it's gonna when you think it's gonna be one season. 450 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 1: It's different if it's a player that you might extend 451 00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:17,640 Speaker 1: or might resign. But if you're going into it saying, 452 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:19,320 Speaker 1: all right, this is probably gonna be a one year rental, 453 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:23,879 Speaker 1: you can't pay market price. It's a hard to do that. Now, 454 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 1: if you're the Braves and you're trying to win the 455 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 1: World Series, it's easier to do that than it's for 456 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 1: some teams that may not have that expectation. But it's 457 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:33,720 Speaker 1: probably a kind of a narrow band for the Braves 458 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:35,639 Speaker 1: to find a deal here. But hey, it's possible, especially 459 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:37,560 Speaker 1: if they if he actually is available, like it's going 460 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:38,159 Speaker 1: to do it. 461 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:41,840 Speaker 2: And depending on what Toronto wants to do. Basheed is 462 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:44,960 Speaker 2: owed sixteen and a half million dollars next year. Yea 463 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:47,920 Speaker 2: quite a bit of money. Again, I don't know what 464 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:50,400 Speaker 2: what Toronto's thinking. They might try to run it back 465 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:54,400 Speaker 2: and get destroyed by New York and Baltimore and probably 466 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 2: Boston too, but they could sell, and if they do sell, 467 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:01,399 Speaker 2: I would be in to know what the price is. 468 00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:04,200 Speaker 2: Is Onda Shed, as you said a moment ago, you're 469 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:06,960 Speaker 2: not giving up big pieces for one year of a 470 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 2: renald shortstop who's owed legitimate money next year, But if 471 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:13,600 Speaker 2: the price is right, I would be in favor of 472 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:17,840 Speaker 2: taking a gamble on it. He again man a very 473 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:21,560 Speaker 2: very talented player and a really good hitter up until 474 00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:24,119 Speaker 2: twenty twenty three, and I think this past season you 475 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:26,360 Speaker 2: can just kind of toss out because of all the injuries. 476 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:28,800 Speaker 2: It's just a matter of if Toronto is ready to 477 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:31,200 Speaker 2: give up on him, and if the Braves are willing 478 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:32,960 Speaker 2: to give up whatever it would cost in order to 479 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:33,200 Speaker 2: get it. 480 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:34,960 Speaker 1: Well, like you said, it's a twenty six twenty seven 481 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:36,600 Speaker 1: year old who had a five year whin though he 482 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:39,000 Speaker 1: had a one to twenty eight Darcy plus over pis seasons. 483 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:42,560 Speaker 1: True guys, those guys who can at least fake shortstop. 484 00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:45,119 Speaker 1: Those guys do not grow on trees. So if he 485 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:47,439 Speaker 1: becomes available, yes, you're buying low on him for a 486 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:50,399 Speaker 1: reason all those things, but it is worth circling to 487 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:54,280 Speaker 1: be sure. We have one more question before we get 488 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:57,919 Speaker 1: out of here on this holiday millbag focused episode, Scott, 489 00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:00,680 Speaker 1: and it comes from Cap who says, right now, would 490 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:02,880 Speaker 1: you bet the over or the under on the Braves 491 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:05,160 Speaker 1: season win total? And that's a good way getting into 492 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:09,000 Speaker 1: this scout because they're now available. Look, we agree, I 493 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:11,720 Speaker 1: think on this. The Braves roster is probably going to 494 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:16,159 Speaker 1: change a little bit between now and opening day, but 495 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:18,760 Speaker 1: it gets earlier every year. If you don't know this, 496 00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 1: sportsbooks put out these projections of wind totals earlier than early, earlier, 497 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:26,440 Speaker 1: and earlier, I would say, and right now, and look, 498 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:28,199 Speaker 1: some of this is probably they're probably baking in a 499 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:32,199 Speaker 1: little bit of additions. They're not necessarily saying this is 500 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:34,800 Speaker 1: the roster and Amber right now we have to make this. 501 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:39,040 Speaker 1: But long story short, the Braves are at ninety four 502 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:42,760 Speaker 1: and a half wins at FANDOL and DraftKings right now 503 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 1: as we're talking, and they're at ninety three and a 504 00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:47,879 Speaker 1: half wins at BENMGM, so they're in the low to 505 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:51,400 Speaker 1: mid nineties. This is an important thing before I make 506 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:54,440 Speaker 1: you guess or project or pick whatever it is, Scott, 507 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:57,200 Speaker 1: the Braves and the people are gonna hate that they're 508 00:24:57,240 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 1: negative out the break. Right now, the Braves have the 509 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:04,080 Speaker 1: third highest over under win total in baseball, behind only 510 00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:09,960 Speaker 1: the Dodgers and the Yankees. So that goes in conjunction 511 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:11,720 Speaker 1: with what we've been saying the last couple of weeks. 512 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:14,800 Speaker 1: Of all the projections from the depth charts at Fangraunts, 513 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:18,200 Speaker 1: et cetera, the Braves, even as constructor, right now are 514 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:21,000 Speaker 1: seen as quite good. So anyway, Scott, does that seem 515 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:22,560 Speaker 1: right to you? Does it seem too low? Does it 516 00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:26,040 Speaker 1: seems too high over under? Yeah? 517 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:29,400 Speaker 2: So if you balance out those lines projections, it has 518 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:32,680 Speaker 2: the Braves that ninety four wins. You know that sounds 519 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:35,400 Speaker 2: about like blindly. If I didn't know, if I didn't 520 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:38,480 Speaker 2: see your notes in the document, I would have guessed 521 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:41,840 Speaker 2: like ninety four ninety five wins. I do think it's 522 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:44,000 Speaker 2: worth noting. And you said this a moment ago too, 523 00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:49,240 Speaker 2: but Vegas is anticipating the Braves adding something. Now. Sure, 524 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:52,080 Speaker 2: if the Braves shock the world and go out and 525 00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:56,200 Speaker 2: trade for Corey Seeger like legitimate all star tomorrow, it's 526 00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 2: gonna move probably more, but just say the Braves signed 527 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:02,520 Speaker 2: a d since starting pitcher, a pretty good left fielder, 528 00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:05,240 Speaker 2: and a couple relievers. That line is not going to 529 00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:09,000 Speaker 2: dramatically shift because Vegas is banking in some I guess 530 00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:13,159 Speaker 2: expected upgrades for the roster, but you know that feels 531 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:16,000 Speaker 2: right to me. If man, I think there was really 532 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:19,000 Speaker 2: good news this past week, if folks missed it, that 533 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:23,800 Speaker 2: Spencer Strider is anticipating having basically a normal spring training 534 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:27,360 Speaker 2: in his own words, he said as much on the 535 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:30,760 Speaker 2: Corey Kluber podcast a couple of days ago. I'd highly 536 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:33,760 Speaker 2: recommend listening to that if folks have not already. But 537 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:37,080 Speaker 2: Strider feels like he's good to go. There's workout videos 538 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:41,160 Speaker 2: of Rondacuna Junior pushing like hundreds of pounds of weights 539 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:42,760 Speaker 2: and pressing off on that knee. 540 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:44,720 Speaker 1: He looks great again. 541 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:47,280 Speaker 2: You never want to buy into the offseason hype machine 542 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:49,560 Speaker 2: too much, but if I had to bet it today 543 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:51,800 Speaker 2: at ninety three and a half ninety four and a half, 544 00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:55,680 Speaker 2: I would take the over with the caveat that A 545 00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:58,520 Speaker 2: A lot rests on those two players indeed being healthy 546 00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 2: and b the NL least is going to be ridiculously 547 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:06,000 Speaker 2: good next year. The Phillies and the Mets, I would 548 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:09,440 Speaker 2: guess are probably top five, top six and wins, and 549 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:12,760 Speaker 2: the Washington Nationals too, or like a sneaky put them 550 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:14,639 Speaker 2: in the American League Central, that might be like an 551 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:17,320 Speaker 2: eighty win team. I don't think they're gonna be that 552 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:19,840 Speaker 2: good next year, but I think the Nationals are not 553 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:22,640 Speaker 2: going to be a pushover by any means. It's gonna 554 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:24,800 Speaker 2: be a tough division for sure, and that obviously plays 555 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:27,320 Speaker 2: a factor into how many wins the Braves can wrack up. 556 00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:30,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, the division is pretty tough, and I actually said this, 557 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:33,399 Speaker 1: I think erroneously earlier. The Dodgers are clearly number one. 558 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:35,480 Speaker 1: They're like in their own tier in projections right now. 559 00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:38,000 Speaker 1: But after that, the Braves and Yankees basically have the 560 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:40,920 Speaker 1: same projection in the in the sports books at two 561 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:43,399 Speaker 1: and three, and then there's this small small gap, and 562 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:45,080 Speaker 1: then the Mets and Phillies are such we tied in 563 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:46,960 Speaker 1: four to five. So like, that's three of the top 564 00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:49,879 Speaker 1: five teams in baseball by the Betty market right now 565 00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:53,320 Speaker 1: in the National League East. Then that's should be okay, 566 00:27:53,400 --> 00:28:01,320 Speaker 1: et cetera, et cetera. So yeah, I have both called 567 00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:03,479 Speaker 1: for we all understand the Braves need to do some stuff. 568 00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:06,280 Speaker 1: They're not. We're not saying that they don't. I also 569 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:08,280 Speaker 1: have said, we'll say again right now, if the Braves 570 00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:10,840 Speaker 1: didn't do anything else, we would be mad about that 571 00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:14,600 Speaker 1: and express that. But I would still turn around and say, 572 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 1: this is a good baseball team even right now. Like 573 00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:19,800 Speaker 1: and they have clear flaws right now, but even right now, 574 00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 1: I think they would probably win if you just mandated. 575 00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:25,240 Speaker 1: If Rob Manfred said, all right, Braves, you can't make 576 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:28,280 Speaker 1: it another transaction. You're not allowed for whatever reason. Everybody 577 00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:30,760 Speaker 1: else can, but you can't, I think you probably go 578 00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:33,200 Speaker 1: into the season. I picked them for probably a win 579 00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:36,560 Speaker 1: total in the low nineties with this current roster. When 580 00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:38,640 Speaker 1: I go over on ninety four and a half, probably 581 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:41,280 Speaker 1: not with the current roster, but I probably picked them 582 00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:44,560 Speaker 1: in the low nineties, which is not exciting, but it's 583 00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:47,240 Speaker 1: that's a division winning total a lot of the time, 584 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:51,760 Speaker 1: even with the roster holes. So if you factor in that, 585 00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:54,840 Speaker 1: we believe and I still think they're gonna do some stuff, 586 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:57,160 Speaker 1: yeah I would. I would probably lean over as well. 587 00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:59,080 Speaker 1: I wouldn't like to be running to bet this right now, 588 00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:00,760 Speaker 1: to be honest with you. If you're listening to us 589 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:02,160 Speaker 1: for that number one. Wouldn't listen to us to that 590 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:06,080 Speaker 1: number one in general, not a gambling expert podcast. But 591 00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:09,760 Speaker 1: number two. I wouldn't bet that now. I just wouldn't. 592 00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:12,200 Speaker 1: It's not that appetizing. If this number was ninety and 593 00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:14,360 Speaker 1: a half right now, with what I just said to you, 594 00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:17,040 Speaker 1: that I would bet this number even at current team, 595 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:18,719 Speaker 1: then yeah, I would like it a lot more. But 596 00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:20,160 Speaker 1: ninety four and a half, Like you, kind of the 597 00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:23,719 Speaker 1: Braves need to get better for me to like that number. 598 00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:27,400 Speaker 1: But yeah, it's a reasonable number and they're just kind 599 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:29,480 Speaker 1: of doing the dance right now. Only the Dodgers are 600 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:31,440 Speaker 1: anywhere over ninety four and a half at any market 601 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:33,000 Speaker 1: right now. They're by the way, one hundred and three 602 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:35,600 Speaker 1: and a half. So that's quite a gap. You don't 603 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:37,280 Speaker 1: often see a nine win gap at the top of 604 00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:41,520 Speaker 1: baseball standings of projections. So they're gonna be good again, 605 00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:43,440 Speaker 1: unfortunately for all of us. 606 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:46,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, And you know, there's a real claim that 607 00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:49,560 Speaker 2: the Braves might be the second best roster in the 608 00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:52,520 Speaker 2: game when it's all said and done, and I know 609 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:55,480 Speaker 2: that it may not always feel that way, or I 610 00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:59,520 Speaker 2: don't know, it's I think when the Braves make a 611 00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:02,360 Speaker 2: move or two or three, I think the feel and 612 00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:04,560 Speaker 2: tone around the team is just gonna it's gonna be 613 00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:07,880 Speaker 2: a one eighty it is. I know people are frustrated. 614 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:10,800 Speaker 2: I know anytime I tweet about the Braves, I get 615 00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:14,959 Speaker 2: a couple of people, Ah, they're cheap. Alex isn't working. 616 00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:18,600 Speaker 2: He's on vacation in Cancoon, He's working for the Phillies. 617 00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:23,480 Speaker 2: I'm just like, dear God, the Braves are going to 618 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:26,640 Speaker 2: do something. There are still a ton of free agents 619 00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:29,960 Speaker 2: out there. The trade market is starting to really move. 620 00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:33,280 Speaker 2: As we recorded, I actually got a notification from Jeff Passing. 621 00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:37,400 Speaker 2: This is it. I popped up. I could see the 622 00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:40,760 Speaker 2: notification Jeff Passing tweeted, and I couldn't see what teams. 623 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:43,120 Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, here we go, Brad, we spoke it 624 00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:46,440 Speaker 2: into existence. Here's the Braves trade And it's not it's 625 00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:49,840 Speaker 2: the Nationals and the Rangers. But the Braves are going 626 00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:51,959 Speaker 2: to do something. The vibe will be much better at 627 00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:55,120 Speaker 2: some point. And even if Rob Manfred came down and 628 00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:58,360 Speaker 2: said no more moves, Braves, you were under penalty, this 629 00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:01,000 Speaker 2: would still be a really good team. And obviously we 630 00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:02,720 Speaker 2: feel like they're going to add to it in the 631 00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:03,680 Speaker 2: coming weeks. 632 00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:07,920 Speaker 1: Yep, we are a line there. Two quick things before 633 00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:11,200 Speaker 1: we sign off this podcast, we will have another show 634 00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:13,080 Speaker 1: at some point this week. We're actually gonna bank it 635 00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:15,600 Speaker 1: ahead of time and just pray that it holds up. 636 00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:17,520 Speaker 1: Even though this is gonna be, It's gonna be, I 637 00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:19,800 Speaker 1: would say evergreen topics, So we're probably safe on that. 638 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:24,240 Speaker 1: Number One. Ricky Henderson died this week. Ricky Henderson is 639 00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:26,640 Speaker 1: an absolute all time great that is not always treated 640 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:30,040 Speaker 1: as one in the collective consciousness, but like an inner 641 00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:32,320 Speaker 1: inner circle hall of famer, like top fifteen to twenty 642 00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:34,680 Speaker 1: player of all time and a unique guy. So I 643 00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:37,560 Speaker 1: always wanted to shot that out like great career. Sad 644 00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:41,160 Speaker 1: that he passed away, but like legitimately a legend. I 645 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:42,520 Speaker 1: was looking out. I was did I was in the 646 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:46,960 Speaker 1: right and Baseball reference rabbit hole this week after that happened, remembering, 647 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:50,120 Speaker 1: and I was already like pilled on Ricky Anderson being 648 00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:52,000 Speaker 1: an all time great, and I'm like man even stronger 649 00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:55,040 Speaker 1: now by the way, took took walks, stole the basis 650 00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:57,239 Speaker 1: is like his big thing of course, career leader by 651 00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:58,960 Speaker 1: a lot. By the way, like by like four hundred, 652 00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:00,640 Speaker 1: which is a crazy number. But I just want to 653 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:03,400 Speaker 1: shut that out. Not a bravesting but a baseball dieheart sting. 654 00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:09,040 Speaker 2: I would say, history of baseball, have there been five 655 00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:12,480 Speaker 2: players just more fun to watch over a career than 656 00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:16,640 Speaker 2: Ricky Henderson? Probably not, Yeah, probably not. So rest in peace, 657 00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:19,640 Speaker 2: a legend did so many good things for the baseball game. 658 00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:22,080 Speaker 2: And yeah, I'm glad you brought that up, Pratt. 659 00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:25,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, let the league and walks three times on base 660 00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:29,600 Speaker 1: percentage multiple times. I had a how about this the 661 00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:33,680 Speaker 1: all time lerian stolen bases by a lot? And he 662 00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:35,720 Speaker 1: had I want to say, he had like seven or 663 00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:38,600 Speaker 1: eight seasons with an ops of like eight forty or higher. 664 00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:41,000 Speaker 1: Like he was a great he was generally great hitter, 665 00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:42,520 Speaker 1: and no one remembers that because he was such a 666 00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:43,280 Speaker 1: good base runner. 667 00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:47,440 Speaker 2: So and that that stolen base record never touched, will 668 00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:51,080 Speaker 2: never be touched, especially with the way baseball's changed. That 669 00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:54,760 Speaker 2: is one if if I could bet on that record 670 00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:57,200 Speaker 2: not being broken the rest of my lifetime, I would. 671 00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:59,040 Speaker 2: I would put a large sum of money on it. 672 00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:02,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not this cy young win total that will 673 00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:04,280 Speaker 1: literally never be approached by anyone that one's the safest 674 00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:06,600 Speaker 1: record maybe in the history of sports right now? Is 675 00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:08,880 Speaker 1: is cy Young's like five hundred plus wins or whatever 676 00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:12,680 Speaker 1: it is? But uh yeah, Ricky's no one's getting there. 677 00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:14,960 Speaker 1: I don't think. Uh second thing, Scott, I didn't. I 678 00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:17,040 Speaker 1: didn't not brief you with this. But it's it's Christmas week, 679 00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:20,880 Speaker 1: it's holiday week. I know you're a big NFL guy, 680 00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:23,520 Speaker 1: facy football guy, et cetera. How is that going to 681 00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:26,040 Speaker 1: change your Christmas Day? There's two Christmas Day games, it's 682 00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:28,720 Speaker 1: a Wednesday, there's NFL. What's going on? What's supposed to 683 00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:31,360 Speaker 1: happen here? Like? Are you gonna watch football on Christmas Day? 684 00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:31,920 Speaker 1: I'm curious? 685 00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:36,840 Speaker 2: Uh, if I want to stay married, Okay, that's my 686 00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:37,560 Speaker 2: follow up question. 687 00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:38,400 Speaker 1: Okay, that's good. 688 00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:41,480 Speaker 2: Well, not to save my marriage, I will not insist 689 00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:45,640 Speaker 2: on watching NFL on Christmas Day. But yeah, we'll probably 690 00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:48,080 Speaker 2: have it. You know, we are a presence in the 691 00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:51,320 Speaker 2: morning family, and then usually the middle of the day 692 00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:53,560 Speaker 2: is a little open. We'll we'll do some things and 693 00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:57,440 Speaker 2: then we'll cook a dinner for Christmas night. But so yeah, 694 00:33:57,480 --> 00:33:59,720 Speaker 2: I'll probably get some football in middle of the day. 695 00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:04,080 Speaker 2: But if I if I told my wife. Hey, we 696 00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:07,480 Speaker 2: got some football to watch on Christmas Day. I might 697 00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:09,279 Speaker 2: be asking to sleep on your couch a couple of nights. 698 00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:11,920 Speaker 1: Bread. It's kind of a long, long journey for you 699 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:13,680 Speaker 1: to get to my couch Scott from where you live. 700 00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:15,440 Speaker 1: But hey, come on down if you did it at 701 00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:17,640 Speaker 1: any point. But no, I just was thinking about that. 702 00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:20,120 Speaker 1: It's a Sundays. We're recording this the football on the 703 00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:22,839 Speaker 1: background behind the screen. If I'm not watching it right now, 704 00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:24,640 Speaker 1: I'm talking to you, but it's on there. 705 00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:25,360 Speaker 2: Uh. 706 00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:28,120 Speaker 1: And yeah, I have had to cover the NBA for 707 00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:30,000 Speaker 1: years on Christmas Day, so it's a little bit strange 708 00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:31,480 Speaker 1: for me because it's like I'm used to it. But 709 00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:33,239 Speaker 1: like if you don't, if you're an NBA person, which 710 00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:34,920 Speaker 1: I know you're not really a huge person on the 711 00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:38,280 Speaker 1: NBA stop even though you're a King's fandom is legendary 712 00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:41,560 Speaker 1: in the space. Anyway, I just wanted to ask the question. 713 00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:43,320 Speaker 1: It's gonna be a little bit weird, and it's Christmas. 714 00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:45,520 Speaker 1: Christmas is Wednesday. It's always a little bit odd, which 715 00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:47,160 Speaker 1: is for me anyway, when it's in the middle of 716 00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:52,160 Speaker 1: the week, because the vacation calendar is different work calendars 717 00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:57,840 Speaker 1: are different now there's football on presence. I am not married, 718 00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:00,560 Speaker 1: so I have a little bit more flexibility you do, probably, 719 00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:03,359 Speaker 1: But anyway, that is a that's a podcast, Scott. We'll 720 00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:05,239 Speaker 1: wrap it up now in the mid thirties in terms 721 00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:09,160 Speaker 1: of it's anything else to share on the Braves or otherwise, 722 00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:11,440 Speaker 1: and if not working, folks who might be following us 723 00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:14,799 Speaker 1: for the first time stumble onto your hot takes about 724 00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:16,600 Speaker 1: the Braves and everything else. 725 00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:20,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, I just want to wish everybody are very happy holidays, 726 00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:24,280 Speaker 2: Merry Christmas, Happy New Year, all of those good things. 727 00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:27,960 Speaker 2: We really do appreciate everybody who has joined us over 728 00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:30,600 Speaker 2: the last nine months since we relaunched on the show, 729 00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:33,000 Speaker 2: and of course listeners who went back to even the 730 00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:36,440 Speaker 2: Talking Chop podcast days. See you guys and gals are 731 00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:39,759 Speaker 2: the real heroes. But yes, we will hopefully be back 732 00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:43,759 Speaker 2: soon with a transaction pod. If not, we will for 733 00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:46,120 Speaker 2: sure have at least one show in the middle of 734 00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:48,439 Speaker 2: the week to help bridge the gap. I'm sure folks 735 00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:51,360 Speaker 2: will be busy traveling and all of that good stuff. 736 00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:54,040 Speaker 2: But again, happy holidays to everyone, and I am at 737 00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:56,720 Speaker 2: Scott Coleman at fifty five on the social media machine. 738 00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:58,040 Speaker 2: If you want to follow along. 739 00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:02,400 Speaker 1: There, follow Scott. Follow the show at Hamber Territory across 740 00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:06,400 Speaker 1: most social platforms, not TikTok just yet. Everything else should 741 00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:08,680 Speaker 1: be there. Basically, I am at bt Roland if you 742 00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:10,719 Speaker 1: want to read a lot about basketball right now in 743 00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:12,200 Speaker 1: the middle basketball season. But I do have some brave 744 00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:15,920 Speaker 1: stuff too on that platform, and please please please subscribe 745 00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:18,919 Speaker 1: to the podcast. I would echo Scott what Scott said. 746 00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:22,680 Speaker 1: Happy Holidays, Merry Christmas, whatever you celebrate, enjoy the time 747 00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:24,840 Speaker 1: with your family, all that stuff. Happy New Year. We 748 00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:26,960 Speaker 1: will have one more episode for sure that we're literally 749 00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:29,839 Speaker 1: about to record right now, that we'll bank for later 750 00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:33,640 Speaker 1: this week for your travels. Look, I know this is 751 00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:37,240 Speaker 1: not a new invention for podcasts, but people are driving 752 00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:39,600 Speaker 1: a lot this week. People are flying a lot this week. 753 00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:41,560 Speaker 1: I always want to have podcast content I can listen 754 00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:43,279 Speaker 1: to when I'm on the road, so we'll give you 755 00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:45,839 Speaker 1: at least one more. But stay tuned. We'll have if 756 00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:48,520 Speaker 1: the Braves do something crazy this week. We will try 757 00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:50,960 Speaker 1: our best to get you a podcast as fast as possible, 758 00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:54,320 Speaker 1: So stay tuned. Subscribe on Apple and on Spotify, on YouTube, 759 00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:57,080 Speaker 1: et cetera. We appreciate everyone listening to the podcast this 760 00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:00,239 Speaker 1: show and also this year in general, it says watch 761 00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:02,880 Speaker 1: the podcast, so stay tuned, Happy holidays, Merry Christmas, and 762 00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:04,120 Speaker 1: we'll see you all next time.