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Speaker 1: Wow, oh damn oh that.
Speaker 3: I don't get what.
Speaker 2: You knew it?
Speaker 1: You know this is going there. You didn't tell me
Speaker 1: you fucking that million and doing hip ho. We're doing
Speaker 1: it hip hop. So I would like to introduce.
Speaker 5: If you are into hip hop, if you if this
Speaker 5: is something that you say you love and this is
Speaker 5: something to say you adapted and you don't know these
Speaker 5: two brothers, and you don't know how these brothers shaped
Speaker 5: and molded the culture for everything that you love right
Speaker 5: now if it wasn't for these two people that standing
Speaker 5: besides me in front of me. Rather what hip hop
Speaker 5: is is because of them. They single handedly had their
Speaker 5: hands on the best artists ever. When you think about Illmatic,
Speaker 5: think about reasonable doubt about Biggie.
Speaker 1: They worked with the three top best.
Speaker 5: They continuously out here looking young, they out here and
Speaker 5: then and then the beat battle had just took place,
Speaker 5: and a lot of people with Swiss beats bigging.
Speaker 1: Him up and big up just Blade.
Speaker 7: But a lot of people don't know that these brothers
Speaker 7: been doing this for years, for years, they started it,
Speaker 7: and I am so proud to introduce and to represent
Speaker 7: people that I look up to personally.
Speaker 5: Pete Rocken, motherfucker DJ. You're listening, brothers. So I'm gonna
Speaker 5: be honest. The fact that both of you brothers had
Speaker 5: worked on my favorite hip hop album of all times,
Speaker 5: which is Illmatic.
Speaker 1: Now, I just want to.
Speaker 5: Take it from there, because was it because we had
Speaker 5: q Tip on here? And I believe q Tip. I
Speaker 5: think he said he suggested that he worked with them,
Speaker 5: or so how did Yeah, yeah, so was it large.
Speaker 2: Together?
Speaker 8: He oh wow, actual chief in command some week week
Speaker 8: actual the chief and command of mad Get.
Speaker 1: So you telling me you never heard of not both.
Speaker 3: Brothers and the thing is back. You know queen's artists,
Speaker 3: including yourself. For one, y'all rapped longer than any other
Speaker 3: with no hooks, and you know, love of visit is
Speaker 3: so New York like he'd be like yo, like yo,
Speaker 3: like like world like yo. He do that for like
Speaker 3: ten minutes before he said sence, he was like, yo,
Speaker 3: your prema got this.
Speaker 1: Do name the rappernas nasty? It wasn't last.
Speaker 3: In his lyrics, so he wasn't even nasty.
Speaker 1: He does it on hanging. He like the reppernas. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he says, you know.
Speaker 3: And so even rapping big noise, I figured, that's just
Speaker 3: the thing, that's a queen thing.
Speaker 1: That's a queen thing.
Speaker 5: And we got we got Pete Rock. I mean, we
Speaker 5: got premier drinking jim Bean out mother glasses when someone
Speaker 5: opened one for me.
Speaker 1: Please whatever, you're just so, y'all know that.
Speaker 5: So y'all know, y'all been y'all, y'all personally raised me.
Speaker 5: You probably didn't know that but it was so honor
Speaker 5: to work with both of you brothers. Your brothers are
Speaker 5: hip hop. When I think of hip hop, your name.
Speaker 5: I know both of your names start with A pete,
Speaker 5: but it feels like it feels like your name should
Speaker 5: be a.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: The first time I met you DN D. Let's go
Speaker 3: to D and D studio front door. You know what
Speaker 3: he's saying, Hey, y'o from man was something. Man, Yo,
Speaker 3: my name is Loui and the thing is the l
Speaker 3: A l A record. Yeah, okay, we got him drinking
Speaker 3: years old. Man.
Speaker 5: I know, I know, I know you're gonna do on
Speaker 5: whiskey and do something.
Speaker 3: I'll do this rocking nobody.
Speaker 1: You're trying to give him that shot and then you
Speaker 1: call another one.
Speaker 3: But but the crazy thing is when I heard l
Speaker 3: A l A, you opened up lids, Louise, Louise.
Speaker 1: That's how we do.
Speaker 2: For Pete rocket for. I used to hang in Queens
Speaker 2: with Flush.
Speaker 1: I heard you play unreleased on me Casina. Was that
Speaker 1: unreleased Flush versus.
Speaker 2: That was worldwide remix? I never put at that beat.
Speaker 2: That beat.
Speaker 1: We got to do that back for y'all. You're ringing
Speaker 1: for you all. I gotta do that beating for you.
Speaker 5: Also, big you up of plugging me in the Supreme
Speaker 5: and people don't know pe Rock was the person that
Speaker 5: plugged me in with the Creme.
Speaker 3: Know that.
Speaker 1: Let's make some Lloyd smoke, right, Yeah, I do, but
Speaker 1: I did.
Speaker 3: I didn't mind, you know, in ninety two. So let's
Speaker 3: another Herves still Flow. Now, let's still flow. Let's take
Speaker 3: it from the beginning Still Flow Premier. How did you
Speaker 3: in and Google?
Speaker 1: Even me?
Speaker 3: I met gool because it goes back to nineteen eighty
Speaker 3: seven into eighty eight. My good friend who's still my man,
Speaker 3: Carlos Garza in Houston, Texas, helped me get a job
Speaker 3: at the front regis he's and he's a boss Boston.
Speaker 3: So Wild Pitch Records is a husband and wife label
Speaker 3: shop Stu Fin and with that search search was later,
Speaker 3: Surge was later.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was just Stup Fine and his wife, no
Speaker 1: one else.
Speaker 3: They never rapp Promotion Guru was a person that would
Speaker 3: go over their house every day and then listening to
Speaker 3: every demo that came in. They had Latti already signed.
Speaker 3: Who's Apache Recipes? That's Apache's brother Wow, and did a
Speaker 3: lot of writing, you know with Latifa and in the
Speaker 3: Flavor Unit and he had a record call this cut
Speaker 3: got Flavored, which was big in.
Speaker 1: New York at the time. That isn't putting on the hiss.
Speaker 1: That's how forty five King came into doing the wild
Speaker 1: pitch work. And then Jill rob G came along.
Speaker 3: Who's also part of Lati's crew in the Flavor Unit,
Speaker 3: and he got signed a Wild Pitch Gangstar I got
Speaker 3: signed after that in nineteen eighty six, and so they
Speaker 3: had a rec call the lesson I wasn't in the group.
Speaker 3: Then three Gangstar goes through three different chambers. The first
Speaker 3: chamber was Big Sug and Gool Gangstar.
Speaker 1: It was Big Sugar.
Speaker 3: Gurul when when Goo was going to school at more House, right,
Speaker 3: so they they they were both from Boston, Yeah Yeah, And.
Speaker 1: It was Shug Brother swave D. They were the first
Speaker 1: Gang Star.
Speaker 3: Then swave D stepped out and it became two ms Damodiski,
Speaker 3: but Guru wrote all the rhymes and it was Guru
Speaker 3: and then DJ Mike D but he was called DJ
Speaker 3: want to Be Down Wow, but it's the DJ one.
Speaker 3: The number two name let her Be and Jay want
Speaker 3: to Be Down. It was one the number two let
Speaker 3: her be and then down want to be down. So
Speaker 3: he he has a brother named Gangstar t you know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So all of that trickled down into the name.
Speaker 3: But Sugar and Guru originated again shot the Sugar everything
Speaker 3: he's doing, the things and movies now like yeah, we're
Speaker 3: working with Larry David all that stuff. So so from there,
Speaker 3: when Goo moved to New York, the rest of the
Speaker 3: members didn't. Sugar got locked up for a while, so
Speaker 3: now it's just grew on his own. But anytime work
Speaker 3: wouldn't involved with any money, no one would come up
Speaker 3: to New York to help him doing any movement around,
Speaker 3: hopping around to get get in the clubs, get on
Speaker 3: the radio, because they weren't. They weren't really getting radio
Speaker 3: played till they dropped their second single called Buster Move Boy,
Speaker 3: which is when I heard him. I was in New
Speaker 3: York at the time for the summer and Red Alert
Speaker 3: was cutting it up, mally Mal was cutting it up,
Speaker 3: and if they're playing it and I thought they were
Speaker 3: called game Stop because of his Boston accent.
Speaker 1: He's his gang sty but knowledge that's about that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, But this is right before how anything in control
Speaker 3: was just about to start bubbling but before Magic left.
Speaker 3: But uh, and Chillie Q used to be up there,
Speaker 3: and and and Kevin cav So when.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and YouTube of course we met. When I met
Speaker 1: with Google, I met you had the red stroglet the mic. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you had to go out.
Speaker 2: He's like fucked up and he's like, now keep it going.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he'll keep going. You'll keep going.
Speaker 3: But so from that point, uh, those three artists were
Speaker 3: the label Chier, Rob g Lati and Gangstar and forty
Speaker 3: five King was the only producer that worked after that
Speaker 3: after Donald D produced the first single. So from there, uh,
Speaker 3: Google used to go through a box of the demos
Speaker 3: when every time mail came in, because back then it
Speaker 3: was about mailing your stuff, walking it in. Carlos snugg
Speaker 3: my my my demo over to Stu.
Speaker 1: Just be your beat, you know.
Speaker 3: I was in a group called mcason Control and Texas
Speaker 3: and my MC was from Boston's name was top Ski
Speaker 3: top Ski. We're uh, we're uh.
Speaker 1: Where's a keno a Lord?
Speaker 3: Tops Key Sugar Pop And.
Speaker 1: They heard my demo but they didn't like my MC.
Speaker 1: They like me and they were like we really want you.
Speaker 1: But I was like, basically saying, like the beats right
Speaker 1: and my scratching. They were bugging off my scratches. So
Speaker 1: I didn't really want to leave my.
Speaker 3: Group, so I said, I can't do it. I gotta stay,
Speaker 3: stay doing what I do. Tom passed my MC. Pretty
Speaker 3: much got frustrated after going shopping other deals. We couldn't
Speaker 3: get a deal, so he said, I'm joining the military.
Speaker 3: I thought he was just bluffing. One day, we're at
Speaker 3: the house shot to Gordon Franklin, the whole Franklin family,
Speaker 3: Gary Arden recipes in Maryland, Franklin. We were staying at
Speaker 3: their house after we were going to college together. That's
Speaker 3: how I met them. And next thing, you know, the
Speaker 3: bell rings on the weekend and the recruiting officers at
Speaker 3: the door on Yeah. Man, he said, yea, I'm looking
Speaker 3: for Theodore Campbell. And I'm like, for what he said,
Speaker 3: he signed he joined the Navy, and I thought I
Speaker 3: was like, I thought he was lying. I'm like, yo,
Speaker 3: topgether on the basement because we all lived together, and
Speaker 3: he's like, yo, I'm out.
Speaker 1: He has his bag packed already. I'm like, how did
Speaker 1: you did you? Did you join he said for four
Speaker 1: years at MC? Yeah, okay, he.
Speaker 3: Said, four years and already met top of everything. I'm
Speaker 3: like four years, so I'm not gonna wait for you
Speaker 3: for four years. He said, Yo, I'm out do your thing.
Speaker 3: And that's when I called back to Wild Pitch, say yo,
Speaker 3: my man. My man left, so now I'm available to
Speaker 3: not be Lived in the group because that's my front
Speaker 3: man and the grouls.
Speaker 1: I gotta want you in the group. So that's how
Speaker 1: I joined Gangs start and then from there Googs. He's
Speaker 1: on my tape and Lord for Neess's tape.
Speaker 3: That's how Lord from Nes got signed to Wild Pitch,
Speaker 3: and that's how I ended up.
Speaker 1: That's the first artist I ever produced was Lord. Let's
Speaker 1: take some noise for that. LA is like that? Okay,
Speaker 1: So now how did you meet? Y'all went to school together.
Speaker 2: Went to school together.
Speaker 8: Through some street guys, and you know when I heard,
Speaker 8: you know, they was telling me he could rap or whatever.
Speaker 2: And when I heard his voice in high school because
Speaker 2: he was always a producer.
Speaker 8: Yeah, well, in the hood, I started doing my high
Speaker 8: school parties djas. You know, I became a DJ in
Speaker 8: mynt RN motherfuckers, you know, flocked to so I met Clo.
Speaker 8: He had a distinctive voice. We did like fifty sixty
Speaker 8: demos in my basement on four.
Speaker 5: Track, four track, like and got signed off that ship,
Speaker 5: you know what I mean.
Speaker 8: Like we was taking like dance to the drummers beat
Speaker 8: and making songs, you know, taking the break beats that
Speaker 8: man Lenny from the Bronx was put street beat and
Speaker 8: I would make betime to them. Since just normal ship.
Speaker 5: And then because it is like it's like the Bronx
Speaker 5: being a place of hippen right birthplaces, right, Mount Vernon
Speaker 5: is like.
Speaker 1: Cousin his cousins.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so y'all had to have hip hop justice.
Speaker 1: You originally from the Bronx.
Speaker 6: Oh.
Speaker 8: You know, when I was young, I went to Bronx
Speaker 8: Room Park, not knowing what was doing on you know
Speaker 8: what I'm saying. All I know is I've seen a
Speaker 8: bunch of cool who was smoking, drinking and listening to
Speaker 8: hip hop.
Speaker 2: It sh had me. And then when I turned seven
Speaker 2: years old, I met James Brown.
Speaker 1: What wow, that's gonna change your cousin.
Speaker 8: Your cousin is my cousin of course, family, all right,
Speaker 8: bless some peace, bro. And you know he took me
Speaker 8: under his wing. And that's how I learned everything. That's
Speaker 8: how I met everybody before I even became who I was.
Speaker 8: I was Teddy Wiley, I was in the studio.
Speaker 1: How we team.
Speaker 3: Let's take it rimming this Soul with You, which is
Speaker 3: such an iconic song for an.
Speaker 5: Iconic song, but now that is about actual person, correct,
Speaker 5: Can we break that down?
Speaker 1: It's Troy right, It's on tour.
Speaker 2: Heavy Dena boys, you know him and canting plays road.
Speaker 8: Managers playing around, you know, we's always be on tour
Speaker 8: plane and they were playing with empty guards cancer throw them,
Speaker 8: throwing them, trying to hit each other and you know,
Speaker 8: never you know, mister steps when he was at the
Speaker 8: edge of the stage, I didn't know what and have
Speaker 8: called me and started to crying, and you know, the
Speaker 8: whole honey, all fucked up. Even today, to this day,
Speaker 8: I don't even know how I was able to listen
Speaker 8: to a record and make a beat because I was
Speaker 8: so destraught that but man, and the whole was he was.
Speaker 1: Infamous in the hood, but you know, legendary that I didn't,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 8: And when I found the sample, you know, I was
Speaker 8: with Extra Pe when we was in Queen's and we
Speaker 8: were digging and I found the record, you know what
Speaker 8: I mean, and we you know, took it home, fucked
Speaker 8: with it, you know, and next thing, you know, I
Speaker 8: put you know, after the beat was made and everything
Speaker 8: like that, we got in the.
Speaker 2: Stuc came with the lyrics and it's like, but he
Speaker 2: didn't have the beat, like he already had the rhymes rope,
Speaker 2: but he needed a beat to match the rhymes. And
Speaker 2: that's very It was not.
Speaker 1: Easy to Yeah, that's magical for that to.
Speaker 8: So it melt it right and it was just like
Speaker 8: damn classic talked about his aunt and you know, did you.
Speaker 1: Know that was going to be as classic as it is?
Speaker 1: When you made?
Speaker 2: When I had Charlie Brown from me decisions.
Speaker 8: And he was there for the mixed up and we
Speaker 8: were just all that crying. I just let it out
Speaker 8: like I didn't even care if he, you know, who
Speaker 8: was around, because I was thinking about Troy.
Speaker 2: He started crying, and then the engineers started and I.
Speaker 1: Said, I think we got I think the day.
Speaker 3: You know. The only thing I don't like about that
Speaker 3: record is that wait, what what are you say is
Speaker 3: wrong about It's a lot of.
Speaker 1: So now I gotta take it to one of my
Speaker 1: favorite games, one of them the whole night mass appeal.
Speaker 1: What drugs was you smoking? That's the ruler era. Man.
Speaker 3: You know it's crazy because I mean everybody has the
Speaker 3: eras of getting lifted.
Speaker 1: I mean, now the pills they are, the young kids,
Speaker 1: they're crazy. That's not my thing.
Speaker 3: But I mean we all have ways of escaping and
Speaker 3: and uh, music and drugs and drinking and sex and
Speaker 3: all that sports. It has always been in a twine.
Speaker 3: But it's all about how strong your mind is or
Speaker 3: how weak your mind is.
Speaker 2: That I've always kept your.
Speaker 1: Grown mind to know how to turn the switch off
Speaker 1: and get back like manager properly.
Speaker 3: I'm glad, yeah you is.
Speaker 1: You know when I've heard that this happened.
Speaker 3: Me to that it was a good old day at
Speaker 3: ninety three into ninety four. That album came out ninety four,
Speaker 3: Folk Song came out ninety three. But I mean, though
Speaker 3: those were the good old days of just ye you know,
Speaker 3: you would torch before you go on the lab and
Speaker 3: start cooking something off and and and even with the
Speaker 3: one with that, I mean, my mind approach is still
Speaker 3: the same.
Speaker 1: So thank Goodness said that it is because I'm still
Speaker 1: active even if it is old. Does the work is
Speaker 1: still coming.
Speaker 3: We're still active, which we still are addicted to making
Speaker 3: beats and performing in DJing. We're like we're battling, Yeah, battle,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. But Master Hill was a wizard,
Speaker 3: was a We was actually making it as a goof
Speaker 3: to radio because we wasn't getting regular rotations on radio
Speaker 3: as a hip hop group.
Speaker 1: But like who always.
Speaker 3: Said, we got platinum respect, So they came out the
Speaker 3: platinum artists are loving us, but we can't sell some
Speaker 3: on records.
Speaker 1: But everybody that that's platinum and selling millions of Love
Speaker 1: Gang Stars.
Speaker 3: We were like, let's make a radio making fun of radio,
Speaker 3: and I said, I want to make something that sounds
Speaker 3: like you're on the elevator going here.
Speaker 1: That was my mind stage.
Speaker 3: I wanted to make the records, you know, you know
Speaker 3: he elevators crazy.
Speaker 1: I'm thinking about your logic.
Speaker 2: Found the record that's closest to It's like, yeah, closest.
Speaker 1: To what That's what it is. There's a lot of
Speaker 1: times I.
Speaker 3: Pre hear the song and I'm looking for the stuff
Speaker 3: that matches my what I'm looking for.
Speaker 1: That's why the drums usually come first.
Speaker 3: But you know, because it's like, you know what it's
Speaker 3: going whatnots on this one. I'm going in pizza on
Speaker 3: this one, going sub on this one. You know, we
Speaker 3: can't already know where.
Speaker 1: We're gonna go.
Speaker 5: Talk got In the early days of my gang Start career,
Speaker 5: there's three people that really taught.
Speaker 3: Me how to get to the level, actually four of
Speaker 3: the level that where I should now I'll take anybody on.
Speaker 3: I'll Balanti. He taught me how to feel to show biz.
Speaker 3: D I t C from shows A taught me thinking
Speaker 3: about how to chop men. I learned how shot beat
Speaker 3: some show biz and then lost professor just showed me
Speaker 3: crazy tricks.
Speaker 1: That used to come to Miles and Hill with us
Speaker 1: because we we met me to hers and we used
Speaker 1: to go to Ms Mackenzie's house. Who's who's the DJs?
Speaker 3: The mom shirt cutting k scratch, I mean Kate cutting
Speaker 3: her scratch, So we used to go to the house.
Speaker 3: So I was around Large Pete a lot, and they
Speaker 3: were way more.
Speaker 1: Advanced on the d programming front from me.
Speaker 3: We all way into the records and the sampling, but
Speaker 3: my skill didn't really get to a point until around
Speaker 3: ninety two.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: When I started working on boom Bat with KRS because
Speaker 3: original rap, not that that song, but the majority of
Speaker 3: from the Mortal out of Here Mortal Carriers want attacks
Speaker 3: and you didn't.
Speaker 1: We still the lawn too. You killed that album. You killed.
Speaker 3: It was just a laugh at radio for not playing us.
Speaker 3: And then its going to be our biggest in that.
Speaker 1: Crazy you know, you know, you know what else I
Speaker 1: gotta I gotta go straight into it. I'm so sorry.
Speaker 1: Stick up the kids. That was a true story, just
Speaker 1: to get a rep. We just got idea.
Speaker 3: We were living in the Bronx on one of the
Speaker 3: third Street. I moved out of East New York and
Speaker 3: moved I was living in Yeah, we moved to the
Speaker 3: Bronx one of the third Street. That's how I met That's.
Speaker 1: How I met that.
Speaker 3: That's how I fancy from the n Y Jesus, That's
Speaker 3: how met Smiley together town Nutcracker, Cracker. I lived on
Speaker 3: one of the third and Andrews and they all they
Speaker 3: all lived down the hill on Andrews.
Speaker 9: Was in the hood.
Speaker 3: Yeah, middle was We got our first check. I was
Speaker 3: moving into and with brand from our sellers. Uh he
Speaker 3: he was about to be the music director for the
Speaker 3: Tonight Show with jay Leno. So he his wife and
Speaker 3: his son was still still living there before they moved
Speaker 3: down a they was, you know, so they were kind
Speaker 3: of back and forth. So at the time before he
Speaker 3: made Offishley moved he we all moved in together. So
Speaker 3: now Brandford, his wife, his son, and me and gul
Speaker 3: all living together on three seventy four Washington and Brooklyn.
Speaker 1: So we moved back to Brooklyn.
Speaker 3: We both bought our first brand new cars. And you know,
Speaker 3: I had had a whip already, but I'm up the
Speaker 3: m PV. The car over the time, for sure, but
Speaker 3: it was very famous every yeah, the car videos. One
Speaker 3: of the minds a Jackie Boy car because it was
Speaker 3: the sound system. Everybody knew me for him around the way.
Speaker 3: So when when that happened, Guru by a four Runner.
Speaker 3: These werein the four Runners new.
Speaker 1: Style body style.
Speaker 3: Grew got into a problem with some dudes in Brooklyn
Speaker 3: and uh he yeah, and then and they took the car.
Speaker 3: They took Tom Tom passed when looking at the cats,
Speaker 3: looking at the cats, couldn't find a car.
Speaker 1: One day we just poured GPS. Yeah, one day we're.
Speaker 3: Moving around, we see the car start chasing after the
Speaker 3: guy going after him his high speed chase. Cops see
Speaker 3: us start chasing too, going after him. He's like, that's
Speaker 3: our car, that's our car. Because they want to pull
Speaker 3: us over. They go after the car that he keeps
Speaker 3: on driving. He the driver hits an ice cream truck
Speaker 3: and dies.
Speaker 1: Oh ship, yeah yeah.
Speaker 3: And it's crazy because Grew had a picture of the
Speaker 3: day he got the car, and he's in front of
Speaker 3: it going.
Speaker 1: Like like, yeah, I got my car.
Speaker 3: Were going to the precinct where they brought the car
Speaker 3: and it was all switched in and everything from the
Speaker 3: from the crash and it was all.
Speaker 1: Switched up and grew, So I got to take a
Speaker 1: picture body's standing by going before I sold.
Speaker 3: He said, I'm writing a song about this, and we
Speaker 3: wrote the song with the and see the album only
Speaker 3: has two verses. When we came up with the video
Speaker 3: with fab for Freddy and did that, he said, we
Speaker 3: need that. That's me swatching there there hook, I mean
Speaker 3: their voice on Funky for You.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's so so fab fire.
Speaker 3: Freddy said we need a closing way of the video,
Speaker 3: and being it that the guy did die in the end,
Speaker 3: he said, we gotta do a third versal. Guru or
Speaker 3: the third verse, and that's why the twelve minutes has
Speaker 3: a diffinite type of a bounce, and it's been re
Speaker 3: recorded three.
Speaker 1: Verses nineteen ninety.
Speaker 3: So yeah, isn't that crazy that we actually found a
Speaker 3: dude to took off after the cops go after after us,
Speaker 3: and once we say, you know, we're trying to get
Speaker 3: our car back, and the dude running and crashed karm
Speaker 3: up for your ice cream truck.
Speaker 2: That's why you gotta love game star.
Speaker 1: This is why you got it a love true star.
Speaker 1: You got it now, Pete, the world is sure. I
Speaker 1: was hating that now.
Speaker 2: That means I was instilled though when he heard the beat.
Speaker 4: Ship Hold on, hold that, hold up on a second,
Speaker 4: because I want to say, arguably might be my favorite
Speaker 4: record on him my back is my favorite album of
Speaker 4: all time.
Speaker 2: Wow in mind too. Not because I'm on it. It
Speaker 2: would have been my favorite even.
Speaker 1: If I ain't on it at all.
Speaker 2: I'm glad I was made.
Speaker 5: I just want you describe he was there. He was
Speaker 5: there just to watch, all right. So now you meet
Speaker 5: this kid that lost professor. Yes, it brings you to them, Yes,
Speaker 5: and then they say they want you to work on.
Speaker 2: Came up to mom vernon.
Speaker 8: Okay, And there's a story where I had not waiting.
Speaker 8: I didn't even realize. I don't even remember. He said that.
Speaker 2: I was in the car talking to a girl and
Speaker 2: he was behind me.
Speaker 1: But you know, if it's people behind me to get out,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But he waited. He just
Speaker 1: stood in the car shot.
Speaker 2: I'm still we got it together. We got downstairs right,
Speaker 2: going through a couple of as SPEK twelve hundred this right,
Speaker 2: the first three, the second one I discome put in.
Speaker 2: When I played it, he just said, oh wait, wait, wait, wait,
Speaker 2: wait a minute, and he just stood there. I was like, okay, that.
Speaker 3: Means he likes it.
Speaker 1: I just knew it, you know, And this is the
Speaker 1: world is you? Was he saying, He's like, you want
Speaker 1: to single?
Speaker 2: I want you to do the whole well, you know,
Speaker 2: got some hip hop ship. And then we got in
Speaker 2: the studio, went to Battery. That's where we did it, you.
Speaker 1: Know, bat that's our job O record. I watched later
Speaker 1: Scratches one tape.
Speaker 2: Premo came in there and I did the Scratches take.
Speaker 1: I think I was the quietest I've ever been to
Speaker 1: this like this looking and I was just like, but
Speaker 1: the world don't know. Does the world know? Who knows?
Speaker 3: Is like?
Speaker 9: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Back again? Time was half time? Okay, what about back
Speaker 1: to the grill again? Was he back to the grille before? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: building at this point right, so yeah, the buzz already
Speaker 1: this was crashed.
Speaker 8: Through mad because super was out when it was done
Speaker 8: and finished, man, man.
Speaker 2: Like, that's done. His three join us on.
Speaker 3: Shot and half three at the time that all had represented,
Speaker 3: but not the one on the album. The one is
Speaker 3: on the allmatic is a remix?
Speaker 1: What not the one on the single?
Speaker 3: No, just the one that's the one is on the
Speaker 3: album period. The one is on the album period is
Speaker 3: the remix? I had the baseline?
Speaker 1: Yo, hold on, what's the original represent? I don't have
Speaker 1: to keep you it up there?
Speaker 10: Do that?
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I can't believe I'm I'm crazy. I make
Speaker 1: that story because I still can't believe. What is this?
Speaker 1: This again?
Speaker 3: We celebrate over twenty five million, twenty being congratulated by yeah, man.
Speaker 1: Around, that's another round. I knew I wanted another flack.
Speaker 1: I just didn't know I was gonna get a podcast.
Speaker 1: What hip hop? You the fact that you know?
Speaker 5: I don't know if you guys know, we only interview legends,
Speaker 5: not because we don't have love for the new generation,
Speaker 5: because we do.
Speaker 1: But I feel like in hip hop, hip hop is
Speaker 1: the only place that you get ten years in, you
Speaker 1: get fifteen years in and they say you.
Speaker 3: Old, and they're right, we're all old older, but we
Speaker 3: have old Thomas music.
Speaker 1: But we are true to what we do, absolutely believe
Speaker 1: in refuge.
Speaker 5: So I just want to keep the interviewing legends and
Speaker 5: for us to have a twenty five million flack congratulations,
Speaker 5: congratulations then and I hate you.
Speaker 1: Why would he knew he had? When did you get
Speaker 1: the bro?
Speaker 3: Listen?
Speaker 1: Man?
Speaker 2: Yeah, like I didn't know?
Speaker 5: And then big up r big up the sidebar my
Speaker 5: boy Raoul J Heron DJ Heron definitely, man, you know
Speaker 5: what I got. You always got a big up a
Speaker 5: Heron Because if you go to a Hera party, you
Speaker 5: coming around, it's real pop.
Speaker 1: The bitch is going to be there with the sneaker
Speaker 1: scoff with the that's real hip hop. When the chicks
Speaker 1: got their hells on, that's not hip hop. Like you
Speaker 1: got your sneakers. Gotta be dirty to a certain extent,
Speaker 1: you know what to be real hip hop?
Speaker 3: Now?
Speaker 1: So you do the world as your Yes, you said
Speaker 1: after you did the record, you was just happy for him,
Speaker 1: very happy.
Speaker 5: But did you did you had the foresight to think
Speaker 5: that this guy would actually like you know, this guy.
Speaker 1: Was gonna blow.
Speaker 3: There was a lot of anticipation when you guys were
Speaker 3: working on the project.
Speaker 11: The game.
Speaker 8: It was like rock him again, right, Yeah, he stood
Speaker 8: in his own light, but he was in poppy by.
Speaker 2: The WHOI rapped the rock?
Speaker 1: No question, you know question? But was open?
Speaker 2: Yeah? That was that was That was one.
Speaker 3: This was new.
Speaker 2: I've been coming and we were confident and he was confident.
Speaker 6: And I was happening.
Speaker 3: Were there a lot of records on that project that
Speaker 3: didn't make the project that you guys are?
Speaker 1: Was that the only beat you made? Oh so it
Speaker 1: was one and one hit her quit? Now the repe
Speaker 1: that go in what was blowing away from?
Speaker 5: And then you tip at the remixed you talk about okay, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 5: that remixes had me all upset.
Speaker 1: Wait oh wait, wait wait your competition like in a
Speaker 1: good way, like damn.
Speaker 2: Should I should have just did a quick remix?
Speaker 3: You know, but they're both amazing. Yeah, and it's totally different,
Speaker 3: you know, different approaches.
Speaker 2: His Town's amazing. Q tip shout out to him.
Speaker 1: I saw brother, So now you did, you said? Three
Speaker 1: joints represented by Memory Lane in New York State of Mind,
Speaker 1: Memory Lane, I don't remembory, ain't member Lane, bemer Lane
Speaker 1: Man Me and me and NAS had a debate on
Speaker 1: that one because I actually didn't like that one. This
Speaker 1: is prime. This is the crazy way. I mean. I've
Speaker 1: been in the studio with Free Vow. Yo, you're really
Speaker 1: a perfectionist, yo, because I do it on the spot. Yo,
Speaker 1: you really are perfected.
Speaker 2: Yo.
Speaker 1: I'm winning six times. Get a beat right? And he
Speaker 1: says he came to me. He came to me and said,
Speaker 1: what's your rom Nikola? I said, drop, I don't believe
Speaker 1: my bug never made That's an incredible Then you made
Speaker 1: the beat in two fucking seconds, flack. Is that No,
Speaker 1: that's not a big records when I performed.
Speaker 5: But the thing about it is is that what you
Speaker 5: have to you have to hear the voters first time,
Speaker 5: because now, but what all particular.
Speaker 3: Is one of the best hip hop as so much definite,
Speaker 3: so much from understand. I was on the War Report
Speaker 3: and now you got me on another and and allly
Speaker 3: that this is the year reunion that merged as a
Speaker 3: solo artist too, I mean your first, your first no
Speaker 3: sick is sick thinking, I.
Speaker 1: Mean like that, like to this day.
Speaker 12: I'm sorry, so I want to get Backti bating. What
Speaker 12: happened was we wanted a premo be so bad right everybody,
Speaker 12: and for some reason our schedules was messed up. And
Speaker 12: then we went to D and D. We went to
Speaker 12: D and D and I felt like he needed something
Speaker 12: from us and we just kept wasn't giving it to you?
Speaker 1: And then you just remember it was the sixth section.
Speaker 1: You said he's after going and.
Speaker 3: And screened on it and I was like yo, and
Speaker 3: I'm just saying, oh god too. And I was like, yo,
Speaker 3: just meet me this, you know, I know he's on
Speaker 3: and he was like yo, mane like you know, break
Speaker 3: and in that day and you can't even like thirty.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, I'm sorry, sorry the crazy He said, what's
Speaker 3: your opening line?
Speaker 5: And I said that so you had that rhyme already.
Speaker 5: I had the rhyme already. I just was waiting for
Speaker 5: something perfect to go because that fit perfectly. I said
Speaker 5: it and he said say it again.
Speaker 1: He meant. I was like, right, my mind.
Speaker 3: I was like.
Speaker 1: About to be at the television.
Speaker 3: Yeah, my turntable set up on a big old nineteen
Speaker 3: seventies television with the with the wood never with the.
Speaker 1: Record player on the twos, and I got the turntable
Speaker 1: in the mix on there.
Speaker 3: Capone sat right there and going, yo, I still can't
Speaker 3: believe I got a turntable on a television.
Speaker 1: Seven round there, And that's what he said.
Speaker 3: He said with the fifteen fan, I mean, with the panasonics,
Speaker 3: with everybody in the hood and the projects have a radio.
Speaker 5: What we got to do right now, Premo is describe
Speaker 5: D and D Studios because that's like I'm pacle hip hop.
Speaker 5: The studios was actually not nowhere neighborhood, nah, but it
Speaker 5: was motherfucker.
Speaker 1: It was block though in the city. But once you
Speaker 1: get into dn D, you in the project.
Speaker 2: But that was at that was.
Speaker 1: That was a heroin block. Even when we started working
Speaker 1: there in ninety two, that was a heroin block.
Speaker 3: So during that time, a renovant private before y'all started coming,
Speaker 3: it was drug central and there was no lights, so
Speaker 3: it was very dark. They ran a newspaper right across
Speaker 3: the street, so we used always beat with them. And
Speaker 3: it was a lot of fighting and threats and and
Speaker 3: I'll go get my gun and all this crazy stuff
Speaker 3: back then, and and it was just I remember Heavy
Speaker 3: Diglis who came out and said, do we really got
Speaker 3: to finish the sound here?
Speaker 1: But you demanded the people give everything that.
Speaker 3: So have.
Speaker 1: I had to go. I went. I went and went
Speaker 1: over to Hip Factory to finished working for them. And
Speaker 1: he was like, Yo, this is Ryaney frame. And I
Speaker 1: was like, Yo, that's how I do it.
Speaker 5: You had a machine that had Philly cigars and what
Speaker 5: is it called the machine machine?
Speaker 1: The Vendom machine and Philly Did you have callers in
Speaker 1: there as well? I think you'd call it.
Speaker 2: It was kind It was.
Speaker 1: The way the dude we had to restock at least
Speaker 1: every week what.
Speaker 3: The philis were being.
Speaker 2: Know, I kid you not.
Speaker 5: I used to be like, because you know, every time
Speaker 5: we used to go to the studio, we always stopping cigars.
Speaker 5: But we went to DNNG and we never stopped. We
Speaker 5: said just go straight there. It was a little bit
Speaker 5: like more expensive, but it was like working. Recently, Pete
Speaker 5: Kanye and jay Z just hired you.
Speaker 1: To do a joint Describe what what was that like
Speaker 1: going on being black scene. Okay, I'm sorry I didn't.
Speaker 2: So he was being a kid in the candy store
Speaker 2: with me. Kanye gotten this new whip brand, new whip tags,
Speaker 2: doing me and him kid cutting in Hawaii's burning the
Speaker 2: road from zero to sixty in less than three seconds.
Speaker 2: That's that's how hot that got pulled over, Oh police,
Speaker 2: because he's Kanye.
Speaker 1: But now when he gives you that call, because at
Speaker 1: the end of the day, you represent the purest form
Speaker 1: of hip hop. So when you get a call from Kanye,
Speaker 1: what is your first reaction.
Speaker 2: I'm just going to bring all my knowledge around.
Speaker 8: And when I got there, he actually impressed me with
Speaker 8: what he knew what I'm saying and from my interluce
Speaker 8: to just like music in general.
Speaker 2: And how he respects him. So I knew he was
Speaker 2: on to something good from the start.
Speaker 8: So I started helping him out like run away all
Speaker 8: asking in the bathroom, helping him out doing little beats,
Speaker 8: you know, you know, just hitting it popping. But when
Speaker 8: we got together and did the joy, I didn't know
Speaker 8: jay Z was gonna be on. My engineer at the
Speaker 8: time was young girl, so young at the time at
Speaker 8: that time, So I was working with him, and you know,
Speaker 8: he called me and he said, Yo, listen to this
Speaker 8: and I was driving at the time, and he needs
Speaker 8: some boy scout on there and that was familiar to me.
Speaker 2: Pulled over her son who he's like, listen, listen. He
Speaker 2: played it against and I had to do that. Is
Speaker 2: that jay Z finally get something together and finally he
Speaker 2: finally gets on the feat and it happened through Kanye, So.
Speaker 1: The racket drive real good.
Speaker 2: I was happy for that, even though Primon was already
Speaker 2: you know, deep into jay Z music.
Speaker 1: Let's make now premon you were actually on reason moved out.
Speaker 1: A lot of us done to D and D. That's correct,
Speaker 1: credits say D and D.
Speaker 5: So now this kid comes from now you already worked
Speaker 5: with NAS, albums already outre you already crowned the top producer.
Speaker 5: But now this guy comes to you. He got some Brad,
Speaker 5: But I know you. You don't give a fuck about Brad.
Speaker 1: I know you, And did you know him from original flavor?
Speaker 3: I know before that before I knew Jay, probably about
Speaker 3: eighty seven because jazz O was on your mind. And
Speaker 3: even when we got signed to your mind, which was
Speaker 3: through Christmas the same distribution, Jay was Silver would always
Speaker 3: come up there with Jazz. Oh so, anytime Jazz would
Speaker 3: show up to any club or whatever, Jay was always
Speaker 3: with him.
Speaker 1: And back then Jay had the big long lukie case
Speaker 1: were go get squashed with. Yeah, we were talking about
Speaker 1: that drink chances squash And uh so, being he comes
Speaker 1: to you, what does he say to you? He says,
Speaker 1: pream because you've seen him in the industry.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and one thing about cream cream don't give everybody
Speaker 5: a beat. Now, you got to prove yourself as a
Speaker 5: real MC to get a beat. So what did jay
Speaker 5: Z do that you said?
Speaker 1: I'm well, even when it got to the point of
Speaker 1: him hanging with the original flavor.
Speaker 3: But that's when I was selling the Bronx and each
Speaker 3: other live down the block Ski so that down university
Speaker 3: down there, down the other way, down the hill, familiar
Speaker 3: from where we were. Uh you know, he goes uphill
Speaker 3: down everything, down the hill, up the hill were they were,
Speaker 3: down the hill from from where I was. And uh so,
Speaker 3: being a new j already, it's crazy because Big l
Speaker 3: Well was already saying, yo, you know if you notice
Speaker 3: a big l with with with Jay a lot, but
Speaker 3: also Ja managed right, Yeah, Yeah, they were they were
Speaker 3: merging into doing some work, which is how the rocket
Speaker 3: fellas situation was about to happen.
Speaker 1: But but I knew Jay also aside from the jazz
Speaker 1: oh winning through King.
Speaker 3: So you see him with Caine, mister misters from l
Speaker 3: G projects. Yeah, and then Missus moved in.
Speaker 1: I think it was just on at somebody's house right now,
Speaker 1: people in your own come on, it's a family. We
Speaker 1: spread love.
Speaker 2: Getting my job.
Speaker 3: People there are about the hot contact because I've seen
Speaker 3: people go and I'm like, hey, you know.
Speaker 1: You know you told me to and I want you
Speaker 1: to finish your story please.
Speaker 3: Fans all right, but I was.
Speaker 1: Actually drinking with Joe Pesty one night. He us right now,
Speaker 1: you did.
Speaker 3: Know it was.
Speaker 1: The fans like he would not let me take a shot.
Speaker 5: But I look at and this is old school because
Speaker 5: in the nineties, so everybody else from Queens moved to
Speaker 5: Long Island. I was the only asshole to move to
Speaker 5: Jersey and so I was, you know, I was amongst
Speaker 5: you know there for some reason.
Speaker 1: I don't know why, but I always moved next to
Speaker 1: the tire in my field. I'm sorry, I don't know,
Speaker 1: but it's always something I live. You are looking at
Speaker 1: the queens rear ready.
Speaker 5: I was going, oh yeah, bunch, I always with hard
Speaker 5: up Italians and and they just went and I say,
Speaker 5: why why I gotta look out the eye? They said,
Speaker 5: because in the mafia, if a person can't look at
Speaker 5: you the eye and they take a shot, that's the
Speaker 5: person's gonna shoot you. And you know, back then it
Speaker 5: was like that, you know what I mean, it's not normal.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've been living by that, and I've been when
Speaker 3: somebody don't do that, I would say, hey, excuse me,
Speaker 3: you just always look at me, and it's a it's
Speaker 3: a very very fun thing.
Speaker 1: Well general, they can't look at you in the period
Speaker 1: it's reasonable down.
Speaker 13: So by the time you got the reason you did
Speaker 13: on reason three I did. I did the Evils at
Speaker 13: just three for three and anybody man full man and
Speaker 13: three yep, I mean, and and.
Speaker 1: You gotta also to manage me. You gotta manage me.
Speaker 1: By that time, me and jan knew each other so well.
Speaker 1: But you know, I was doing for w b l
Speaker 1: S at the time and I was doing radio.
Speaker 3: So Clark can't brought jay Z up there to let
Speaker 3: me uh here in my lifetime. The single that they
Speaker 3: themselves the original because they the I can't get with
Speaker 3: that with false money. As I met sau So when
Speaker 3: they brought it up during my commercial break and I
Speaker 3: heard it, I was like, yo, I'm gonna play this.
Speaker 3: Had a lot of commercial break.
Speaker 1: They're like, but you just listen to you gonna You're
Speaker 1: gonna play it now. I'm like, yeah, open the show
Speaker 1: with it. Next thing, you know, Jay's like, you know,
Speaker 1: I got something before you give me a bottle Crystal.
Speaker 3: I didn't know who Cristal was because we were still
Speaker 3: drinking more and he's like, you know, this is the
Speaker 3: real deal champagne right here. There's a big, big ball
Speaker 3: of stuff. I was like, cool, and I saved for
Speaker 3: years and years save the bottle. Yeah, I'm finally drinking,
Speaker 3: you know, and that now for you know, Jay, don't
Speaker 3: fucking Crystal.
Speaker 1: But we don't go. I don't forget about so yeah.
Speaker 1: So now the space now space yea, So that's not
Speaker 1: the best, but it's okay, you know. I say that
Speaker 1: was a birthday party.
Speaker 3: Was the first time I take the space because Jay
Speaker 3: came to the birthday party and was like, I think
Speaker 3: nothing never tasted that.
Speaker 1: He said, oh no, he pour poured me a glass
Speaker 1: and we had slammed down. I'm on a whiskey. I'm
Speaker 1: a brown liquor guy, whiskey. Gud Now, let me before
Speaker 1: we get into this, into the interview.
Speaker 3: So, so Dame approached well, Jay approached me about it
Speaker 3: since we had had a friendship already, and then he
Speaker 3: introduced me to Dame.
Speaker 1: I used to see Dame and in the Bronx walking
Speaker 1: his dogs all the time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he always had his dogs, and he was walking
Speaker 3: around because he was going to see Chubby Chubb.
Speaker 5: And Steve because he was handling managing them, and said,
Speaker 5: Chubby Chubby, Chubby Chuff d Yeah, j.
Speaker 1: Chummy Chuff original flavor. As it's a big DJ in Boston.
Speaker 1: In Boston, Okay, Boston.
Speaker 3: So, so Dame used to be around there walking his
Speaker 3: dogs all the time. So we met then, but it
Speaker 3: was just small talking. We were just you know, everybody
Speaker 3: knew Gangshaw was at the time.
Speaker 1: We were we were known enough.
Speaker 3: So from there, Jay said, this is gotta handles the business.
Speaker 3: So I went down with him, tolding my much. I said,
Speaker 3: because it's Jay, it's all love. I'm only gonna charge
Speaker 3: you four thousands, which was very very very lucky.
Speaker 1: And I don't believe in luck, but that's a blessing
Speaker 1: for me to give you that type of number. We
Speaker 1: went in the back. They gave me the cash and
Speaker 1: I started getting busy.
Speaker 3: Now Jacob.
Speaker 2: And and and and here you go.
Speaker 3: So Jay called me and said, I got this song
Speaker 3: called the Heavil. He explained it to me, and my god,
Speaker 3: he explained it to me. Then he wrapped the whole
Speaker 3: song on the phone. Then after he wrapped it on
Speaker 3: the phone, then he gave me the scratch idea and said,
Speaker 3: what do you mean?
Speaker 1: He said, I want to judge, So he had it
Speaker 1: all mapped up.
Speaker 3: You saved me.
Speaker 2: He got my mind.
Speaker 1: I can't die. I can't.
Speaker 14: Even though he said, make it go, I can't gave you.
Speaker 14: He knew that he knew the samples. He want, not
Speaker 14: sample to make the beat. He just he gave me
Speaker 14: the idea of how to. He said, this is the
Speaker 14: apps feel I want musically, but I want you to,
Speaker 14: no matter what you make, do these scratches. And I
Speaker 14: went down there and I said, yo, I'll be ready
Speaker 14: by the time you get there.
Speaker 1: And it was ready. And when he walked in, I said,
Speaker 1: the scratches That's what I'm saying that he the cut.
Speaker 1: He said, hey, yeah, estamples, he picked that already on
Speaker 1: the phone on the phone, so so he had that
Speaker 1: well thought out and you know, so crazy.
Speaker 3: Him and Biggie's are always lay the cup vocals. And
Speaker 3: then they both to leave and go all right, do.
Speaker 1: The premier thing. And they both said the same thing,
Speaker 1: do the premier thing. They wouldn't sit there like y,
Speaker 1: I gotta watch you, man, I gotta make sure it's right.
Speaker 1: Do the premier thing.
Speaker 3: Were going out and they would leave and let me
Speaker 3: just do my thing. I might have said, you did
Speaker 3: it in the first dround.
Speaker 1: You know I'm good.
Speaker 5: So now, Pete Rock, you established your super producer. You
Speaker 5: if you've done everything you work with the best, what
Speaker 5: makes you say I want to do a whole album?
Speaker 1: First off with Duck Down before smoke this, because you
Speaker 1: you did a whole He did the Loud, the joint
Speaker 1: on Loud, did Smith.
Speaker 2: And Wesson Soul Survivor too?
Speaker 1: With Yeah.
Speaker 2: Everybody Aloud?
Speaker 5: You know it was crazy and then the best make
Speaker 5: you say, you know what, I'm gonna do a whole
Speaker 5: project with Smith and Wesson.
Speaker 2: I think it was just the all and it just
Speaker 2: made me say, you know what, Damn, I love all
Speaker 2: these two. If I could make a joint with him.
Speaker 8: Then I went to Steve. He was with the idea.
Speaker 8: I knew he could make make it happen, you know.
Speaker 8: Then I was on the label they signed me, and
Speaker 8: I was like, wow, okay, the one album deal. But
Speaker 8: I said, no, I'm gonna make this one real good.
Speaker 2: I'm saying. And then look I got the count and
Speaker 2: hand me. Let me just see what's happen. And then boom,
Speaker 2: I'm just go in and start.
Speaker 1: Thinking in the half man and now you got a joint.
Speaker 2: It's funny.
Speaker 1: The ship with me and you house most strange, real
Speaker 1: close with each other, like are we talking strange food
Speaker 1: right now?
Speaker 2: You know we're talking. We're talking and the fat albat
Speaker 2: Johnson the ship on.
Speaker 1: So there, Yeah, had I had such a great time
Speaker 1: studio What was the green studio? Yeah you was? You
Speaker 1: was green Street? Yeah you know you look at my
Speaker 1: memory memory of Pete it was Green Street, but that
Speaker 1: was way down to that was that was his. That
Speaker 1: was like Jamie friends in my house.
Speaker 2: The flood I came in right after that and the
Speaker 2: whole story.
Speaker 1: About you missed.
Speaker 3: It was like.
Speaker 2: Shot a bullet holes.
Speaker 1: Bullet holes in the warm. It's still in the wall.
Speaker 1: God damn, that's makes some.
Speaker 2: Regardless, you know, it was a great time and great
Speaker 2: test was my home.
Speaker 1: That's so who was it? It was me? Pun in common, Me,
Speaker 1: pun in common. What a combination? That's yeah.
Speaker 2: Me and pun got real tight.
Speaker 10: You know what I mean?
Speaker 1: No, listen, Pete, let me just tell you something. We
Speaker 1: were so hoarded to come back if we had a
Speaker 1: ball or the pieces. It was Green Street Studios.
Speaker 5: I could never forget it because you know, Pete showed
Speaker 5: me and I remember I had the Cardier frames on
Speaker 5: at that time too, and I also and I also
Speaker 5: had a very important sweater on and I worked from Miami.
Speaker 5: It was called because this is the guy who designed Iceberg.
Speaker 5: But then he went and did his own thing and
Speaker 5: I forgot what it was called. But it was some
Speaker 5: fly ship and I bought it from bout Harborough and
Speaker 5: I only wore the peate rock super got that makes
Speaker 5: a noise.
Speaker 1: So now, you guys, you work with knobs, You worked
Speaker 1: with ja Have you ever worked with Beg? You never
Speaker 1: worked a bit?
Speaker 2: He'd been to my crib. He was picking my in
Speaker 2: the little beats and he's like, you know, and then
Speaker 2: you know he heard the idea of juicy at my
Speaker 2: baseball you know, the one that brought Big to the
Speaker 2: to my house. You know, we all from.
Speaker 8: Puffers from dell Avenue and Mount Vernon and do it
Speaker 8: bigg to the crib and he's just like, yo, Big,
Speaker 8: He's like, yo, I just won't see how you make
Speaker 8: a beat.
Speaker 2: And then I made this be called uh that's a
Speaker 2: song called in the Flesh on the main ingredient, and
Speaker 2: I made that. He wanted it, you know, but it didn't.
Speaker 8: Happen somehow, but we ended up using it for an hour.
Speaker 8: But he was there and saw the process.
Speaker 5: But now described that because now you know offers from
Speaker 5: Malvern So you look at him like a pier. But
Speaker 5: now do you do you realize that this guy that
Speaker 5: he just rung to your studio is the most legendary.
Speaker 1: Person in the world. You knew what you do already.
Speaker 5: The order was because I think puff came on the
Speaker 5: show and he's squire big as disruptive, Like his look
Speaker 5: was there.
Speaker 1: Did you get that feeling?
Speaker 2: I didn't even pay attention to that. I was I
Speaker 2: was about to skip.
Speaker 1: The lyrics.
Speaker 2: Homely, I got to beat the match, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean, let's keep some poppings. But he heard the
Speaker 2: idea of juicy and just you know, I didn't actually
Speaker 2: do the actual rich, but I.
Speaker 8: Ended up doing the remix and that was the only
Speaker 8: thing I get big at them. But you know, if
Speaker 8: you know he did pick beats, you know, we just
Speaker 8: didn't get a chance to him.
Speaker 1: But yeah, he knew what he wanted to rap to.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Man, now you primo, how did you first meet there?
Speaker 1: I met Big when we moved actual Brooklyn's for green
Speaker 1: living with Branford, not in a lot of rough places.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah we will this way when Branford, when
Speaker 3: Brandford Valley officially moved out and went to California, we
Speaker 3: turned this place into a frat house, party house. Was
Speaker 3: jes was where Washington life yet and green and this
Speaker 3: Brooklyn yeah brook Okay, it's old school Brooklyn.
Speaker 1: Ye, so that you can get get spots every other
Speaker 1: storm shot coming out. He's like you that shoot him
Speaker 1: up corner and it's not this is not this is
Speaker 1: not the vegans.
Speaker 3: This is this is himpster, hipster, the old English. Yeah
Speaker 3: you know this when Biggie wore the same green. This
Speaker 3: is when in Biggie the Biggie wore the same green
Speaker 3: on me Jack and the sleeves were about the right
Speaker 3: ri showing, but he bore it all the time. I
Speaker 3: knew Nino Chico sees Kim.
Speaker 1: Would they bring you this guy?
Speaker 3: No, Miss, I gotta give mister c the credit, miss,
Speaker 3: But he's from the beginning with Yeah.
Speaker 1: He was annoying me, like yo, he wouldn't be I
Speaker 1: g yet he was Biggie Smalls and I mean somebody
Speaker 1: else had Biggie small, so that he just dad. But
Speaker 1: I used to a lot of shoulder with Caine, and
Speaker 1: there was times that I couldn't.
Speaker 3: My turntables got damaged because back then you carried your
Speaker 3: equipment on tour and uh.
Speaker 1: And you're right, d he want he wanted to still
Speaker 1: bring his He got run out, mister his.
Speaker 3: Turntables right before Caine took the stage so the gang
Speaker 3: start could perform so well.
Speaker 1: Again.
Speaker 3: He lived right down the block from all the weak
Speaker 3: spots that we knew, and so you gotta go out,
Speaker 3: mister Sea and the wet spots right there, the new one,
Speaker 3: the one is like oh no, no, that one was
Speaker 3: dead this one and so the nice Franklin Abe. So
Speaker 3: then during that time, Missus steves to call me go
Speaker 3: pream Biggie Small, Biggie Small.
Speaker 1: I'm like, see, I'm gonna listen.
Speaker 3: To it, like, ex, give me some time weeks past, yo,
Speaker 3: Pream Biggie Small. That's why I'm like, yo, see before
Speaker 3: yeah right, yeah, just Biggie small and Biggie Small big.
Speaker 3: And I'm like, dude, I'm gonna listen to it because
Speaker 3: we're pretty busy that at that time.
Speaker 1: I read it Monday, I listened to it, liked it
Speaker 1: like the demos that I heard, And then I met
Speaker 1: Big on the corner. I was going to the corner store.
Speaker 3: Me Guru, Big Sugar Dap, and Dap was in love
Speaker 3: with Little Kim, and Little Kim was like the way
Speaker 3: they like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, y'allkind yeah, that's this very shout.
Speaker 3: Yeah. And that family MELICOI Melkai got locked up for
Speaker 3: many homes, well home Melicott. You know, we all connected
Speaker 3: me jaw, all of us are still good. So uh
Speaker 3: So then Big was like, yo, see she told you.
Speaker 3: You told me he's been stressing you. I was like, yeah,
Speaker 3: I finally heard it. I said, we gotta get something
Speaker 3: in and then he goes, Joe puffing is that? This
Speaker 3: is what he said, Puffing is interressing, is signing me.
Speaker 3: So this is how far back before ninety he said,
Speaker 3: puff addressing and signed him.
Speaker 1: I said, dude, go with him.
Speaker 3: I said, puff of Puff not only has money, he
Speaker 3: got a vision. He gonna blow you up.
Speaker 1: He said, well, I don't know, man, you know, I
Speaker 1: want to keep his hood.
Speaker 3: I'm like, yo, he don't want to go with go
Speaker 3: with puff? Wow, you know, and then boom, next thing
Speaker 3: you know, Puff started coming around. And actually I tell
Speaker 3: people this.
Speaker 1: Puff was the first one, because Puff is the first.
Speaker 5: Remember state, Yeah, but so what was the first record
Speaker 5: you actually worked on with a big Unbelievable?
Speaker 1: Oh believe this is actually what trick. This is what trickleed.
Speaker 1: That was a single trickle.
Speaker 3: Down into why I gave jay Z and him the
Speaker 3: price a lower price for a reasonable doubt, because when
Speaker 3: we did Unbelievable the the the budget had run out
Speaker 3: for Big and I told Big, I don't have.
Speaker 1: Time to make a beat, and he goes, yo, I
Speaker 1: got five thousand dollars And I was like, you know,
Speaker 1: but we were already cool with each other.
Speaker 3: But I felt weird telling him no, But I really
Speaker 3: didn't have the time and I'm a person.
Speaker 1: Then Pete will tell you this. I make the beat
Speaker 1: on the spot.
Speaker 3: And now that's something that people don't realize. I don't
Speaker 3: have like twenty beats and go your pick one, like.
Speaker 1: Taking number six and number four number that's a real.
Speaker 2: Beat.
Speaker 1: They said that that's what they do. They make it
Speaker 1: to the artists. So I didn't have nothing for big.
Speaker 1: That was dope.
Speaker 3: You know. I'd be like, come on, man, I know
Speaker 3: you got something's like I don't. I really don't. You
Speaker 3: come here, we can make it big old. I don't
Speaker 3: care if you're taking piece of president and just some
Speaker 3: funny stab sounds and you know he knew the slag. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and you know what we're saying product in the production era.
Speaker 3: So he said, I don't give it's just some stabs.
Speaker 1: I said a word. So coming up tonight, then that's
Speaker 1: what happened. He comes up. I said, I'll take the
Speaker 1: five thousand.
Speaker 3: I said, but if you get a deal and you
Speaker 3: go platinum, I won thirty five thousand dollars per track.
Speaker 1: Wow. After after him, Yeah, we did the song.
Speaker 11: Negotiation it's crazy in this ninety five, there's ninety five.
Speaker 3: He comes in, we do the song. It becomes the
Speaker 3: B side of Juicy. It was like the street singles
Speaker 3: for Juicy. It was my first gold single.
Speaker 1: So I was a wow.
Speaker 3: As soon as he got the deal to up the money.
Speaker 3: I remember, he goes, yo, I got to check for it.
Speaker 3: You said thirty five, right, He said, I got. I
Speaker 3: got two of them and brought me to check and
Speaker 3: Puffy gave me the check and I was like, wow,
Speaker 3: he kept his word.
Speaker 1: Oh so this was it on paper. This is a word.
Speaker 1: It was like a handshake ship. Yeah, that's big. Damn damn,
Speaker 1: you learned it. So it's hip hop history. Getting thirty back,
Speaker 1: thirty five back then no triple, that's ninety.
Speaker 3: So.
Speaker 5: Now let me ask you, because you the reputation is
Speaker 5: like the most hip hoppis of hip hoppis now Janet Jackson.
Speaker 1: You work with Janet Jackson, You work with Christina Million,
Speaker 1: you worked did you work with Britney Spears?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 5: So just is crazy. As a hip hop producer. You
Speaker 5: get this call, what is your first thing to say
Speaker 5: for Christina?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Because you know that wasn't her, dude, that put
Speaker 1: her on her ex husband JORDI had put her on
Speaker 1: some of my stuff, but she liked it. So she
Speaker 1: called me and goes, yo, I just heard the group
Speaker 1: home album. Oh Ship, that's that's wait what Christian she
Speaker 1: just heard?
Speaker 3: I met at the Chateau Mama down the hill on
Speaker 3: sunset you kind of front.
Speaker 1: In Germany, clean shatter.
Speaker 3: My moms with a lot of a lot of wigs,
Speaker 3: big wigs, lamp and drinking and get enough money. Right
Speaker 3: down the hill, it's right before tower, like right after
Speaker 3: the Beast Tower records or any little the big Tower
Speaker 3: records right there and it's got a big neon size
Speaker 3: and shout told my mom with bushes so you can't
Speaker 3: really see the spot.
Speaker 1: And she said, my rolls Royce is outside. I saw
Speaker 1: the white the white fan. I said, she's here, walk in.
Speaker 1: She's sitting there with Jordie. She goes, you know, I
Speaker 1: love Goopong and I was like, that's Brando pinpoint crazy
Speaker 1: Grimy is out like like like the jazz samples I
Speaker 1: used on some of the games.
Speaker 2: So she liked.
Speaker 1: She liked the jazz things. She like worked, she liked
Speaker 1: the Yeah she works like you know my Steves even
Speaker 1: though that was a song. But the song she was
Speaker 1: naming with joints like wow, that attracted you to want
Speaker 1: to work with me. Let's go in. And then we
Speaker 1: ended up we were suposed to do one record, which
Speaker 1: was called we were called back in the day.
Speaker 3: Next thing you know, she was like, Yo, stay here
Speaker 3: a couple more weeks and we just started banging out
Speaker 3: and turned it into five records. And then that was
Speaker 3: the first Grammy I ever got for a single, whereas
Speaker 3: you know, not for for being on the album. I
Speaker 3: got a Grammy for D'Angelo being up working on the
Speaker 3: album and for jay Z on Hannack Life. But to
Speaker 3: get one for the single is singles out all the
Speaker 3: other songs on the album. It's like, for that one song,
Speaker 3: you got a Grammy.
Speaker 1: So that was a big monumental name of my career.
Speaker 1: It was dope. It was beautiful. Man make a noise
Speaker 1: for that. God damn it.
Speaker 5: Who was it that you said, you work with them,
Speaker 5: but you wanted to see them right the rhyme and
Speaker 5: they face.
Speaker 1: It was somebody I forget. I'll work with them, but
Speaker 1: I want to see them right the rhyme right the rhyme.
Speaker 1: I think it was like a Justin Bieber.
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, yeah, you know the cipher which I've
Speaker 3: been doing, that was the site there. Yeah, we didn't
Speaker 3: know the cipher for BT hip hopwa was gonna even
Speaker 3: get this big.
Speaker 1: It was an idea. Shouting shot to Jesse Collins and
Speaker 1: congratulations to.
Speaker 3: Jesse Collins for doing real well with a new edition story.
Speaker 3: That was his idea and it blew up and did
Speaker 3: really really well, did big numbers. And Justice is a
Speaker 3: good friend of mine. We arguing, fight a lot over
Speaker 3: and know it's wrong if you do it this way.
Speaker 3: You know it's right if you do it this way.
Speaker 3: We fight a lot, but he's such a good friend
Speaker 3: that we always find a compromise. When he brought up
Speaker 3: the idea of doing the cipher, it was a one
Speaker 3: time thing. It was Pat Poo's styles, p Remy who
Speaker 3: else was in it rom Fest and then it was
Speaker 3: a second one and those two I couldn't make it
Speaker 3: because I was on tour, so I had DJ Scratch
Speaker 3: fill in for me. I just gave him the beat
Speaker 3: and said let's keep it break beach only you know,
Speaker 3: because something now is that elevation and if you're like yo, man,
Speaker 3: I need something to turn up to.
Speaker 1: It's like, no, this is the pure form of how
Speaker 1: we do it. We're keeping the break beat, so are
Speaker 1: you're a producer on that PI specific thing. I picked
Speaker 1: the beat, I'll loop it.
Speaker 3: I'll do maybefore James Brown loop a break beef from
Speaker 3: Ultimate breaks and beats whatever, and I'll send those and whatever.
Speaker 2: One.
Speaker 1: Jesse's like, yo, I like this one. We'll clear it
Speaker 1: with whoever owns it, and then we'll send it to
Speaker 1: all the artists and we.
Speaker 3: Tell them sixteen bars and quick everybody's got ninety bars everything,
Speaker 3: and it's like they never follow the rules. Then they
Speaker 3: get mad, like yo, they edited my stuff. It's like no,
Speaker 3: he told you sixteen and quit right and again it
Speaker 3: was one time.
Speaker 1: Only. Second year comes around up to set cipher, They're like,
Speaker 1: we want to do it again. Now they got three ciphers,
Speaker 1: then that turning the four ciphers after that.
Speaker 3: Now it's starting to get ciphers where they're starting to
Speaker 3: put a lot of artists.
Speaker 1: That I'm like, nah, nah, they can't rhyme, don't put
Speaker 1: them in there.
Speaker 3: And it's going into that stage of it where now
Speaker 3: it's like where they're popular, they're no more known than
Speaker 3: the kill them seas. I'm like, yeah, but if you're
Speaker 3: taking away the skill that that causes problems with the authenticity.
Speaker 3: And that's why I have a problem because I wanted
Speaker 3: to stay authentic. Yeah, but all the fans love them,
Speaker 3: and they're on TV and they're on every video, and
Speaker 3: these other guys nobody's paying attention to them. I'm like, well,
Speaker 3: you know what they're going to pay attention to when
Speaker 3: they see how dope they spread beat. So we always
Speaker 3: have that fight. One year, they say, yo, what do
Speaker 3: you think of Justin Bieber was spitting on the sipher.
Speaker 3: I said, I don't know he heard it, as long
Speaker 3: as he writes to rhyme and if it's a dope rohm,
Speaker 3: let's do He said, what if somebody else writes?
Speaker 1: I said, no, that was it with roomors being saying
Speaker 1: that I mentioned this person this person.
Speaker 3: No, it was just as simple. If he's going to
Speaker 3: do it, let him spit. And and so next thing,
Speaker 3: you know, it's next thing he turns in the whole
Speaker 3: campaign and showing him spinning versus on radio stations on that,
Speaker 3: and I'm like, yo, I work with Justin Bieber as
Speaker 3: long as it's authentic, let's rock. I don't care if
Speaker 3: it's Justin Bieber.
Speaker 1: I don't care if it's Mary Poppins. If it's authenticless rock.
Speaker 1: That's how important is that for you guys?
Speaker 3: I know?
Speaker 1: Problem with that with just I was like, yes, but
Speaker 1: just you wanted him to write and they didn't.
Speaker 3: Say that he wasn't gonna write, and they said what
Speaker 3: if he doesn't? And I'm like that he shows on
Speaker 3: the blog d premiere band.
Speaker 1: Justin Bieber's like, how can I band nobody?
Speaker 3: Because if it was my cipher, You're gonna see Cane
Speaker 3: theremel there, rock him there, d I T C doing
Speaker 3: the whole cypher.
Speaker 1: With a G and Diamond and and and the old
Speaker 1: Ce and all of them.
Speaker 3: It's gonna be people like that, you know, yeah, because
Speaker 3: you see when the Shady Cipher it was eminem You know,
Speaker 3: people with skills them Broyce, Joe Budden, uh Crooked Eye skills.
Speaker 1: Know how important is that for you?
Speaker 5: For you guys, You guys have to integral that you
Speaker 5: guys are on the top of the line of producers
Speaker 5: when when we're speaking real real world hip hop, you
Speaker 5: guys name has to be brought up now. Is is
Speaker 5: it ever a time where you sit back and say,
Speaker 5: you know, I'm gonna do it for the money this time,
Speaker 5: or you say I'm gonna always stay who I.
Speaker 1: Am always say and I've been tempted.
Speaker 3: Much.
Speaker 8: We are a good example of olymp Biscuit. But it's
Speaker 8: in our hearts to the asking it about love.
Speaker 2: We do that do it for the love. It's like,
Speaker 2: it's just that's who we are.
Speaker 3: Biscuit was a good example tell us because when my
Speaker 3: manager kept pressing me to do it Patrick Moxey at
Speaker 3: the time, I was like nah, because I said, fred
Speaker 3: durstkin't rapt it. And in my eyes on the level
Speaker 3: of what people, I don't want my fans going damn
Speaker 3: praying you've work with him and and I like Limp
Speaker 3: Biscuit for what they do, but if you're gonna get
Speaker 3: with me, it's not what you do.
Speaker 1: And that's a lot more ink, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And that's the bottom line.
Speaker 3: They go, well, method man is on the song. I said, oh,
Speaker 3: I said, then send me the rough and send me
Speaker 3: the rough and meth was on it. I was like, then, okay,
Speaker 3: then I'll do it. And it was a big check,
Speaker 3: a huge check, one of the biggest checks I've ever gotten.
Speaker 3: So the good thing I liked about Fred Durst was
Speaker 3: he called me and said, I need to talk to
Speaker 3: Kreme and he was just becoming one of the new
Speaker 3: executives at Interscope with Jimmy Ivean, and he said, yo, man.
Speaker 1: This is recently. We knew it all back when they
Speaker 1: popping and we were doing.
Speaker 3: But he had respect for what you and we had
Speaker 3: a dope conversation and it was to the point he said,
Speaker 3: the best.
Speaker 1: You can get out of me, I'll do it. He
Speaker 1: came to D and D and so he tried, he tried,
Speaker 1: he tried nobody, nobody, God know nothing.
Speaker 3: And they were big at the time. This is the
Speaker 3: second second album and he was like, Yo, get the
Speaker 3: best you can get.
Speaker 2: Out of me.
Speaker 1: Okay, if you don't like it, whatever, I'll do it.
Speaker 3: And he that was the best I could get when
Speaker 3: what's on the song. But the fact he put the
Speaker 3: effort in. I like the fact he put in the
Speaker 3: effort and he knocked it out. Next thing, you know,
Speaker 3: he said, Yo, we're doing a video.
Speaker 1: Flew us out. We had a big video shoot. We
Speaker 1: had a good time and it was just a just
Speaker 1: a really really fun session. And then me and Me
Speaker 1: and Fred were cool after that. Yo. Before the thing
Speaker 1: is that you guys mentioned Dwick and we didn't go
Speaker 1: back to do it. Let's go back to Troy is
Speaker 1: one of the biggest.
Speaker 3: Hip hop will ever be and it's one of the
Speaker 3: biggest hip hop records.
Speaker 1: We need to hear. We need to hear the story
Speaker 1: of Dwick.
Speaker 3: Dwich the only reason why Dwick happened, because that's all
Speaker 3: of our summer anthems.
Speaker 1: By the way, like we all the nicest move did
Speaker 1: a song.
Speaker 3: Called on the Ain't a Damning Change called down the Line.
Speaker 3: It was with a whole bunch of mcs based Blaster
Speaker 3: Big up to him, a whole bunch of other mc
Speaker 3: he said, based Blaster Yeah from Connecticut, including and shout
Speaker 3: to Ray Pouncy and Ray Paul See and uh and
Speaker 3: then Google's also on it. He said, I want to
Speaker 3: loop the Manifest beat and do my own version because
Speaker 3: a lot of people don't know most of the nicest
Speaker 3: who hits. Greg Knice does all the beats. Wow, I've
Speaker 3: seen him do it. He's for all that stuff. Hip
Speaker 3: hop junkies, every every.
Speaker 1: Oh my sorry yell all that kicking wicked rocks like
Speaker 1: a fortunate time had a dog and on his old
Speaker 1: yellow he did all that stuff.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Greg Knife, he did be for me to make
Speaker 3: him up hip hop right now, the punky bu all
Speaker 3: that stuff does less be plays a sack. I know
Speaker 3: he doesn't play a sack. I remember brand for myself.
Speaker 1: He gonna played the fu sack.
Speaker 3: It works me and myself alove to Max. He did
Speaker 3: all those beats. So Greg Nice is a dope beat maker.
Speaker 1: Wow. So he took the Manifest instrumental, made a beat
Speaker 1: and all we were doing was because we hang tough.
Speaker 1: It was the nicest smooth gang star riding.
Speaker 2: The d trained.
Speaker 3: We go to the castle which was grimy in the
Speaker 3: Bronx and this was the when they had to shoot out.
Speaker 3: Would say, Greg, all that stuff like we were around
Speaker 3: all that stuff. Boom, next thing you know, we said, well,
Speaker 3: let's return the favor and do a record for us.
Speaker 1: So that's all. It was just y'all doing for us.
Speaker 1: We're gonna do one feel doing on there.
Speaker 3: That's why it was the B side and it wasn't
Speaker 3: on the album. I remember people are like, oh yeah,
Speaker 3: y'all left you off the album. It's like, nah, the
Speaker 3: album was already done. We're just doing it for fun.
Speaker 1: We was doing it and that became a huge right now.
Speaker 1: We didn't know it's gonna be a huge We're just
Speaker 1: doing it. No, it was just fun. I remember, I know.
Speaker 1: Shout out to duve C. He was There't you related
Speaker 1: to to somebody on the West like that? No, we
Speaker 1: just good friends. We're just good friend. But you did
Speaker 1: the album m C A recently. Yeah, that's coming out
Speaker 1: of that. Let's go back to was most wanted.
Speaker 3: He did two of the uh theme records for Boys
Speaker 3: in the Hood, he did Grow m C and he
Speaker 3: did She's on Everybody Side.
Speaker 1: So yeah, we have an we have an out hit.
Speaker 1: We have a one hit one. We have which way
Speaker 1: is West's coming? So and and also you haven't, idiot
Speaker 1: know of the connoisseurs and we you know people know.
Speaker 3: Uh and then uh uh shout to Tory Wolf and
Speaker 3: also shot to Miguel.
Speaker 1: We have a single out right now called to Loving You. Now.
Speaker 1: What happened was where where we where? We dwick so
Speaker 1: dub she was there. Wow, that's Don Barron from the Masters.
Speaker 3: And sure yeah, because he was good friends with Greg Knight.
Speaker 2: How did the horny version happen to I was just
Speaker 2: doing that, just.
Speaker 1: Bugging out, and the morning version, the horn the horny
Speaker 1: version as a vocal version had a glitch.
Speaker 3: You remember you when you go to dad Tod. Yeah,
Speaker 3: So when we bounced into we stay quiet, let them
Speaker 3: tell that and had.
Speaker 1: To remember that she's the glitches We couldn't. I was like,
Speaker 1: we can't put it out, like that's why I just
Speaker 1: put the instrumental on the on the B side of
Speaker 1: the twelve. Wow.
Speaker 3: When did y'all know you had something with Dwick? Like,
Speaker 3: I mean immediately when that ship came out when we
Speaker 3: finished it. It was crazy because, like I said, duve
Speaker 3: C is from the West Coast, wearing scullies.
Speaker 9: All the heat of it West Cyde Connection and House
Speaker 9: and west Side, the Crypto, Crypto and Khakis and and
Speaker 9: Pendleton's all hot and I'm just like, yo, you ain't
Speaker 9: hot and all that stuff, because that's how it is
Speaker 9: in the West Coast.
Speaker 1: And that's how I learned about the West Coast. This
Speaker 1: is nineteen eighty nine. Master Ace had just joined our
Speaker 1: Mass States was heaving doing the car show stuff on
Speaker 1: the West. I knew sul Night already back then it's
Speaker 1: eighty nine. I shouldn't Bobby he was, and he was.
Speaker 1: He was hanging over the.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 3: So I was there with JJ FAD, the n w A,
Speaker 3: all that stuff, Me and Heasy. He came to the
Speaker 3: first Game Star release party in nineteen eighty nine. Did
Speaker 3: you want the pictures now? Yeah, the recipes to so
Speaker 3: we met them back in eighty nine, so killed you
Speaker 3: know what for dove c to be there back then?
Speaker 3: That shows you we go to and recipes of his
Speaker 3: brother who passed on.
Speaker 1: January, Ice Cubes, DJ Crazy Tones, that stuff.
Speaker 3: Yeah, when we set them off right, and we had
Speaker 3: an incredible homegoing service and.
Speaker 1: Your family reunion.
Speaker 3: Man, seeing all these West Coast on from King t
Speaker 3: and then seeing you know, Chuck d n l L
Speaker 3: there and everybody and and you know.
Speaker 1: Just every artist and hip hop family.
Speaker 3: It was so packed and and they just did it right,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, playing dope music in the church,
Speaker 3: playing flashlight and doing a whole collage of all the
Speaker 3: people he's been around on a video screen.
Speaker 1: And and and then even when it did.
Speaker 3: To everybody's on site, the shows tunes throwing up the
Speaker 3: w looking up to the st with with clouds.
Speaker 1: And wings and all that stuff, and I was like, yo, man,
Speaker 1: you see he's trying to get.
Speaker 3: That was it?
Speaker 1: June. You're fifty. You're very smart about how you do
Speaker 1: things on TV.
Speaker 5: We we are with two of the best producers of
Speaker 5: all the best in my best and I'm going to
Speaker 5: celebrate you guys life.
Speaker 1: Hey man, I'm going to get team.
Speaker 5: I can't believe, like I continue, I got to come
Speaker 5: back and look a little black absolutely because it's twenty
Speaker 5: five million. But you know what the crazy shi it
Speaker 5: is is this guy is a vinyl guy. He's a
Speaker 5: real hip hot person. I am a hip hop person.
Speaker 5: For us to come together and want to commemorate hip hop,
Speaker 5: thissolute hip hop and for.
Speaker 1: It to get twenty five million, man for picking it
Speaker 1: out CBS, CBS first, BBS first, and then Coming home
Speaker 1: Man coming here May. I thought, when you go you
Speaker 1: go to LA, you gotta le's beak of your premier.
Speaker 3: No, I'm doing screening screening at the LA Film School
Speaker 3: March ninth, but March twenty third on Revolt Airs is
Speaker 3: the premier Coming Home Vietnam. I'm going to different countries
Speaker 3: and exploring hip hop.
Speaker 1: The dope thing is, I've been watching Drink Drink Chances
Speaker 1: for a minute. You don't feel like you're lighting it up.
Speaker 3: I've been checking a minute, and Uh, it's just ill.
Speaker 3: How how the two of y'all are from really different,
Speaker 3: totally different directions. I've known Nord from the streets, like
Speaker 3: we've been streeting for so long, right, I've seen him
Speaker 3: elevate from the street level of rhymen to the sharper.
Speaker 1: Version of writing rhymes.
Speaker 3: Even when you and Bubby had joke rama and then
Speaker 3: we end up doing a record together and.
Speaker 1: Me and together, and even when that happened, it wasn't
Speaker 1: even a dish. He was just like, yo, I'm a
Speaker 1: band of GNY.
Speaker 3: He didn't want him to elevate and fan and where
Speaker 3: everybody knows bumping Freddie Fox and being where he is
Speaker 3: more into. There's certain people he's attracted to for what
Speaker 3: they represented, and he loves no more than the same.
Speaker 1: See as a person, A big, big fan of Big
Speaker 1: Big because he pushed me.
Speaker 5: He told me from the beginning, like if he had
Speaker 5: mentioned my name on the record, they told me like
Speaker 5: I just I don't want you to say what but
Speaker 5: I'm gonna be honest, I keep it one.
Speaker 1: When I recorded to with the right, that's how I
Speaker 1: used to count bars. I used to say, what what
Speaker 1: what what?
Speaker 3: What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What?
Speaker 2: What what?
Speaker 1: I'm from the resource from education child.
Speaker 5: I told for real.
Speaker 15: I said, they're gonna lave it. He said, that's the hook.
Speaker 15: But he was a h He was because the game
Speaker 15: was taking up the ones like when I said what
Speaker 15: what what?
Speaker 9: What?
Speaker 3: What?
Speaker 1: So what I wanted it? All he did was muted.
Speaker 1: And then so I gotta give it to morell.
Speaker 8: You did that.
Speaker 1: So now when you listen to it, you hear and
Speaker 1: you say what what what?
Speaker 3: What? What? What? What? What?
Speaker 1: But yeah, this day you don't even got to go
Speaker 1: to the verse. That is the club.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And what I was trying to say was when I
Speaker 1: did it, I felt what Bumpy felt.
Speaker 5: That's why I never took it personal, because I felt
Speaker 5: I told for I said it for real.
Speaker 2: We need is.
Speaker 5: I said, oh, we need is because you know from
Speaker 5: the research room. So you know, I'm sorry, said and
Speaker 5: he said relax. We didn't say relax, but in my mind,
Speaker 5: he said, I will never forget it. We were in
Speaker 5: the Right Track Recording Studios. His chain was choking him.
Speaker 1: I told Choker, like, you gotta release because it was
Speaker 1: just so tight on this licking. I love him, he
Speaker 1: love he knows I love for.
Speaker 2: Real.
Speaker 5: I'm very upset, but I love you for me and
Speaker 5: mister Lee kicks. So I remember, I'm going upstairs, I
Speaker 5: would saying, you remember right track, youmember. So I went
Speaker 5: upstairs and I said, all we need is a hook
Speaker 5: and we good, And he said we got the hook already,
Speaker 5: and I looked at him. I was like, because I
Speaker 5: had previously did that on every other record before, Joe.
Speaker 1: The first time I heard you were t O, N
Speaker 1: Y and and just the whole bo It's like, that's
Speaker 1: your stamp, that no one of those owners that you
Speaker 1: are owner. But that's the reason why I got it.
Speaker 1: I gotta give it because he was the nigga like
Speaker 1: I did that ass.
Speaker 5: Ball because you remember back then. You gotta remember back then.
Speaker 5: We couldn't punch in recorded the roll record in one day, No,
Speaker 5: and it want to punch in even.
Speaker 3: No punching it, you know, proud, but listen, I'll be
Speaker 3: fifty one March twenty first.
Speaker 1: So pree, So I did this ship.
Speaker 5: That's how I always recorded my records.
Speaker 1: Was all the way too, because remember we had the
Speaker 1: eight year Hrails back then two inch get two inchel
Speaker 1: whatever you think it was.
Speaker 5: It was, so I was trained to just lay everything
Speaker 5: all together. So I came out and then he had
Speaker 5: the girl come in.
Speaker 1: And then the girl was saying, which is not callous
Speaker 1: because everybody everybody thinks it's not. Everybody thought it was
Speaker 1: its getting what she was around during that time. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but everybody thought was it.
Speaker 5: I'm so sorry I forgot Remember tammy is definitely a tammy.
Speaker 1: Sounds like that was something like that, right, That was
Speaker 1: an that time that that we were all cool, khalise,
Speaker 1: but look so crazy.
Speaker 5: I come back out and I'll say, yo, praps, all
Speaker 5: we need is to hook and we've done and he
Speaker 5: said he god don And I said, where.
Speaker 9: Is it a?
Speaker 1: And then he played what they're gonna laugh at me?
Speaker 1: When Reddy Fox name at me? He's like, I don't
Speaker 1: want to hit it?
Speaker 3: What what? What?
Speaker 1: But he didn't know that was it literally wasn't me.
Speaker 1: So I was literally mad, mona, what's going on?
Speaker 5: Because the monad the drink chance God damn it on
Speaker 5: him in my mind.
Speaker 1: Shout.
Speaker 5: So now listen, you guys see hip hop. You worked
Speaker 5: with Cool Rest in Peace, you worked with C. L.
Speaker 5: Simon Heavy, Now Heavens.
Speaker 1: I'm going there. So now what makes y'all say I'm
Speaker 1: going to work with people outside?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 1: Because the thing about hip hop back then was one
Speaker 1: producer did the whole album. I'm wonder I'm working on
Speaker 1: going back to that one producer did the whole.
Speaker 5: Now you've got you, you got Illmatic where it's Pete Rock, Premier,
Speaker 5: Tip Large, Professor l E. S. Then you go into
Speaker 5: at the big big.
Speaker 1: LP. Yeah, Lord for neess Uh.
Speaker 5: So what makes y'all what makes y'all say I'm gonna
Speaker 5: work with people outside of my group?
Speaker 1: Because we're not just We're just not in a hip
Speaker 1: hop box. We're in a music box, and the music.
Speaker 3: Box has all styles that we appreciate based.
Speaker 1: On the cloth.
Speaker 3: We're cut from a pioneers that opened the door and
Speaker 3: we're goinning fire. James Brown BOUTSI the whole Parliament from Adomph. Yeah,
Speaker 3: just on any of that from parlet brids and anything
Speaker 3: Boots anything, Parliament, anything, George anything.
Speaker 1: That's an era after James Brown.
Speaker 3: That's so funky, you know, like like that, that's a
Speaker 3: funk that they ain't never funk. Like he said, funk
Speaker 3: not only moves they can remove.
Speaker 1: We come from that, you know.
Speaker 3: So Aretha Franklin, Natalie Cold, Gladys Knight and the Pips,
Speaker 3: Curtis Mayfield, all that stuff, and Mac and all that stuff.
Speaker 1: That's my childhood.
Speaker 3: I don't know about no hip hop to hippie and
Speaker 3: hippie I'm on that. I'm seeing my mom playing back
Speaker 3: to Yeah, Donad Rose anything, Amotown, Tamla, Gordy Soul Records,
Speaker 3: any of that stuff.
Speaker 1: My mama tried to get you hit one more time,
Speaker 1: drink Champs, God damn you want to make it smoke.
Speaker 5: He ross the roster, roster, saying, why why.
Speaker 3: My child his platform shoes, Afros this big afrosine commercials.
Speaker 1: But Johnson and.
Speaker 3: Good Times, the Jeffersons, all in the family. You know,
Speaker 3: the monsters. That's my monsters. That yeah, remember that's my Yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna throw something in there. What's happening?
Speaker 1: That's my my era, A.
Speaker 3: Rock and stuff, all that, you know, all that. Yeah,
Speaker 3: roller skating, we run, we run, That's what I know.
Speaker 1: This is no rapping and scratching.
Speaker 5: Yet, what is Peak Rock's favorite studio session all these years?
Speaker 8: My favorite studio session that I've ever had was probably
Speaker 8: had been with Run DMC, down with the.
Speaker 1: Ship with the King, down with the light. That's problem
Speaker 1: was you know the Brasy that's the owner of this club,
Speaker 1: and he's not gonna like and we got to like.
Speaker 2: Yo.
Speaker 3: We were on a gang start tour last day and
Speaker 3: Writ and Run called us and said, hurry.
Speaker 1: Up and get hit on the twenty five million streets.
Speaker 1: Why was I like one that we did not and
Speaker 1: we did not make it? It been perfect and we
Speaker 1: came over the wall was and everybody was.
Speaker 2: Gone, damn. You know.
Speaker 5: I gave CBS this idea though, come on, bro, I
Speaker 5: give him that idea. You gotta relax. Gave him I said,
Speaker 5: we need a streamer in the plaque.
Speaker 3: We sat on the podcast buddy, We just said podcast,
Speaker 3: I gotta go with you events.
Speaker 1: He feels more sober than me. Yeah, I don't know
Speaker 1: if it's.
Speaker 2: A d J thing.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, you can do about We have a memory.
Speaker 1: Jay Z saw me one day. Jay Z said you,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna call you memory man.
Speaker 3: You remember every show you're seeing jay Z and he'll go,
Speaker 3: but you remember this time, I'll say, I remember we
Speaker 3: were and we were in Paris. Were at a show
Speaker 3: like two in the morning, and he was doing the
Speaker 3: uh this after the justin tim latour and watch the throwne.
Speaker 3: He was doing a Holy Grail tour. We found out
Speaker 3: he was in town me and Keebler or wherever Keybler
Speaker 3: is at. I said, y'all want to go see jay
Speaker 3: Z before him reach out. That's when he was still
Speaker 3: talking you no, no, in Paris.
Speaker 1: In Paris, and we got a little a couple of
Speaker 1: little timas. I want to go to the show. I
Speaker 1: reached out to the proper people and they was like, yo,
Speaker 1: Jam and Dad when he was a John and Neely.
Speaker 3: Reached out to John and Neely he's handling everything. I
Speaker 3: reached out to John, send him an email, and I'm like,
Speaker 3: I'm out of here.
Speaker 1: Anyway we can go to the show.
Speaker 3: I'm thinking I ain't gonna respond, and thing blipped in
Speaker 3: like two men's He said, Yo, there's gonna be passes
Speaker 3: waiting for you all access come backstage and I'm gonna
Speaker 3: have a spot for you.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry.
Speaker 3: As soon as we go backstage after the show, because
Speaker 3: Timblin was d dan Form.
Speaker 1: We go back stage after the show. Jay Z goes,
Speaker 1: all right, well remember you got this time? Hey, could
Speaker 1: I'm introduce him to the Keepler, my tour man. He goes, yeah,
Speaker 1: he said, He's like, how you doing, He's like, how
Speaker 1: you doing? Keep it nice to meet you. He'll know
Speaker 1: what you got memory this time?
Speaker 3: I said, you met Keebler Before he goes, oh no,
Speaker 3: I said, we were at Battery Baseline Studios and Loupe
Speaker 3: Fiasco was auditioning for you and he had on a
Speaker 3: big chain.
Speaker 1: This is on Lupe Avasco had a big chain home
Speaker 1: with a big medalla, which he would never do. Right now.
Speaker 1: He was rapping for you know none that he needs
Speaker 1: much more focus on another level. But Loop fans come on,
Speaker 1: Drink Champs going up. Man Homie shot shot the first
Speaker 1: and fifteen.
Speaker 3: So he goes, he's the auditioning for Jay Jasons all
Speaker 3: these rhymes. Louey puts on a beat in the CD player.
Speaker 3: The CD starts to go, you know when they loop
Speaker 3: goes and and then it finally stops skipping, goes back
Speaker 3: into the rhymes. Right there, Jay goos, I totally.
Speaker 1: Remember that day. Next you know him and keep off
Speaker 1: in the corner talking about sports, you know, make some noise.
Speaker 5: Now here's the deal. Like when I interview people, I
Speaker 5: like to, you know, dig into their life. When I
Speaker 5: know the people, the people, I don't dig into their
Speaker 5: like because I know them are rent.
Speaker 1: Both of you guys, I know already. I know exactly
Speaker 1: what to ask you.
Speaker 5: But the thing about y'all which surprised me is y'all
Speaker 5: both come and y'all both do your own sound check.
Speaker 1: Mandatory and so man as always would. I always think like,
Speaker 1: you guys have a DJ, but he'll do.
Speaker 3: We were talking about this me and Yeah, was so like,
Speaker 3: he's like DJ, that sounds that we've done, Joe, And
Speaker 3: I'm like, yo, make sure to heaven everything.
Speaker 1: He's gonna make it right. Fixed the speakers somehow they
Speaker 1: got a bump. They gotta do sound check. I don't care.
Speaker 3: Even if I don't get get to eat sleep, I'm starving,
Speaker 3: take a nap. I will not miss sound they produced.
Speaker 3: It got to be right because a lot of festivals
Speaker 3: you gotta just plug in check. I'm like, Yo, it's
Speaker 3: gotta bang, and I'm gonna deliver what you paid to
Speaker 3: get to get what you paid for. You you're gonna
Speaker 3: pay to get me again, and you.
Speaker 1: Want your beat to be hurt, right, so you don't
Speaker 1: never see like your assistant or nobody you. You said,
Speaker 1: we'll check it again before we start tonight.
Speaker 3: But other than that, now I got outside, I want
Speaker 3: to even see the rock the room looks like, so
Speaker 3: I already have a picture of what I'm stepping into
Speaker 3: when the crowd is here.
Speaker 2: But you gotta let the man do what you gotta
Speaker 2: do if you want to do it. He wanted to
Speaker 2: do it.
Speaker 5: I said, if if free mooted in, he was like yo,
Speaker 5: he said, he said, you did, stayed there?
Speaker 2: I would.
Speaker 3: He know that.
Speaker 2: I just still love him open up for himself.
Speaker 1: He would have. He would have, dude, he would have
Speaker 1: done another hour. And we were like, yo, peak, come on,
Speaker 1: it's not even a bad thing. And I was like,
Speaker 1: your peak, come on.
Speaker 3: We've been on the road where I'll get mad and
Speaker 3: nothing in a bad way. He's like, Pete, I'm at
Speaker 3: the record store.
Speaker 1: He forgot.
Speaker 3: We were here in Tokyo one time and we're about
Speaker 3: to miss our plane, and he goes, I gotta get
Speaker 3: this record.
Speaker 1: We're like, y'all I'm not missing my plane for you, especially.
Speaker 3: On the day you're finally going home, and you know,
Speaker 3: the day you're going home, you're just so ready to
Speaker 3: go back home.
Speaker 1: And we've been out for like a week in another country,
Speaker 1: and he's like, yo.
Speaker 3: I gotta get this record. I'm like, dogs, if we
Speaker 3: do not make this plane because of you, we're gonna
Speaker 3: be And that's actually how the whole Pee Rock versus
Speaker 3: Premier things started because of that day we got on
Speaker 3: the Butther said, you know what, man, we need to
Speaker 3: make an album where we can get our attention now
Speaker 3: to make the album going at each other, making hill
Speaker 3: y'all doing the album.
Speaker 1: We're going to do an album called pe p VP
Speaker 1: Pete Goddamn the hats the record that record? Are we
Speaker 1: doing that? You're about a half right recommend with due. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I have a website that just carries the hats.
Speaker 3: Now say the website again, Premiere was here dot com
Speaker 3: dot com to and just go to the shop section.
Speaker 3: It has all of it has all official Gangshow products,
Speaker 3: all official Guru products, all official Premier products.
Speaker 1: And me and Peach share the hats and we have green, red, blue,
Speaker 1: black and black.
Speaker 5: We have too, so what happened when y'all saw this
Speaker 5: battle individually? Know I'm talking about when y'all saw the
Speaker 5: Just Blade and.
Speaker 1: Everybody, honestly everybody, we don't acting like that was the
Speaker 1: first battle and side you know what because we've been
Speaker 1: doing it so much.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was more like, all right, cool, and this
Speaker 3: ain't their first battle together.
Speaker 1: They've done it before. No, no, not, this is the
Speaker 1: first one. Kanye. It's not drink chance because but it's
Speaker 1: not drink Kanye. Y'alls is like y'alls is like migrating.
Speaker 3: But the next day they started posting that me and
Speaker 3: you need to doing I'm like, we've been doing you've.
Speaker 1: Been doing it.
Speaker 5: It's like, y'all miss you need to do you know
Speaker 5: my hip hop and story and I know, but what
Speaker 5: did you What was your first.
Speaker 1: Thing when you when you heard the day battle and Swiss,
Speaker 1: I have the phone? Where's my phone at you to come?
Speaker 3: Yes, okay, we believe it. Actually, while we're waiting, I forgot,
Speaker 3: I got you. We got y'all man Drink Clod and nine.
Speaker 1: I remember when you did the remix to again Me.
Speaker 1: I got damn. I don't know, but uh it's from
Speaker 1: the perspective of what we think is hot. And I
Speaker 1: remember when you did the remix to uh those calling
Speaker 1: I picking up those you did what uh?
Speaker 14: What?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 1: What's the name city boy D? Look at you know
Speaker 1: element you did a you gotta stop? Definitely know you
Speaker 1: know past to me now, Yes, yes, yes, I play,
Speaker 1: I said the Diego.
Speaker 3: I played your your version more than fast Chapter Fab
Speaker 3: figure because Fat Fab is a dope lyricist and knows
Speaker 3: how to do club records, radio records and still have
Speaker 3: a really clever way of writing his rhymes.
Speaker 1: Love Fab.
Speaker 3: I'm a big fan of his, but your version fit
Speaker 3: more of the format of what I represent the most grimiest,
Speaker 3: like you said, no clean shoes, no hot I don't like.
Speaker 1: Your version was the one I played.
Speaker 3: So it's we're We're on every Friday night from Tempi
Speaker 3: on the midnight serious light radio Channel forty four.
Speaker 1: Hip my Nation, and uh, what I represent is the
Speaker 1: era of the eighties with Morley mal Red alerts, chill out.
Speaker 3: Also to my just yeah just shut just In the
Speaker 3: two thousand ear or whatever year we're in, I still
Speaker 3: keep it to that. And there's so many artists that
Speaker 3: have hot stuff out that will never get played anywhere else.
Speaker 3: So I'm like, I'll play it, send it to me
Speaker 3: if I like it, and it's on that that level,
Speaker 3: it's gonna get broken. And that way, not only do
Speaker 3: you trust me, you also start to focus on you
Speaker 3: know what, if he's playing it, it's gotta be real.
Speaker 1: And that's really what it is. So all of that
Speaker 1: truth that.
Speaker 3: The just blaze Swiss Beast. So it happens, I'm on
Speaker 3: my way to the show and Swiss is texting me saying, Yo,
Speaker 3: I'd like you to come check this out. Put my
Speaker 3: shows off ten to midnight. It's starting at ten o'clock.
Speaker 3: He's like, Yo, man, I really like it. And now
Speaker 3: I would have gone definitely. I definitely would have gone.
Speaker 3: But I'm not abandoned my show because again, it's live.
Speaker 3: It's not previous pre recorded.
Speaker 1: Cool. Live is a whole different animal. Five is when
Speaker 1: you have when I scripted nothing, We just roll, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: And when it comes to how we do it, everything
Speaker 3: just flows from minute to minute, second to second, beat
Speaker 3: to beat, voice to voice on just the realness of
Speaker 3: hip hop from my perspective. So when it came to
Speaker 3: Swiss Beats and uh, just Blade doing doing the show.
Speaker 3: As soon as I got off the air, I checked
Speaker 3: my Instagram and.
Speaker 1: Saw they were live. I went to Swiss Beats, I
Speaker 1: clicked on it.
Speaker 3: I want to see my man DJ Rectangle, who's one
Speaker 3: of the dopest battle dude ever give me the scratch Vinyl.
Speaker 3: I go to his show to watch him do a
Speaker 3: party gig, and I'm in there with my phone going
Speaker 3: yeah in the morning, I'm like, just still on from
Speaker 3: ten oclas, Yeah, and I'm doing this looking at him
Speaker 3: a little bit.
Speaker 1: They switch it over now just got the big.
Speaker 3: And the guy.
Speaker 1: Said, yo, just playing them still battling. It's almost two
Speaker 1: in the morning and I'm.
Speaker 3: Sitting there doing this in a corner in the club
Speaker 3: where it looks like I'm like a sore thumb, but
Speaker 3: I'm like, no, I'm watching and check it out because
Speaker 3: i want to see what they're doing to battle because
Speaker 3: they started pulling O beas.
Speaker 1: So that's what I'm like, Will you still a fan
Speaker 1: of the culture like that?
Speaker 3: I will remain because you know why, after I guess,
Speaker 3: being from Texas, I wanted to be accepted by New
Speaker 3: York because at the time I came if New York
Speaker 3: didn't accept you. It didn't matter where you were from.
Speaker 3: And that time that acceptance. I got that acceptance from
Speaker 3: the greats.
Speaker 1: I wanted E. P.
Speaker 3: M D To love me. I wanted Big Daddy came
Speaker 3: to love me around Kim krst one, I wanted Grandmaster
Speaker 3: Flash Molly. It was me Jazz, DJ, jase J.
Speaker 1: You became Jazzy.
Speaker 3: Jeff Cash Money, d J Scratch and I just want
Speaker 3: Howie T.
Speaker 1: Give you ain't smoking? Yeah, smoke though I did earlier. No,
Speaker 1: let's just say he's earlier. It was That's not the
Speaker 1: word that was reaching.
Speaker 3: It was.
Speaker 1: Sorry.
Speaker 3: I told you fifty years old, Union State shot shot
Speaker 3: shot because it got me. Listen, this is when you
Speaker 3: know you're on point. Never has any drugs that I've
Speaker 3: ever used defeated me, and at fifty.
Speaker 1: I'm on my level. You got to take a molly, though,
Speaker 1: take a molly. This guy, Yes, that was bro dude.
Speaker 2: That was.
Speaker 1: That was That was no, no, no, no, that was
Speaker 1: eighty one when it was called black molly, and that
Speaker 1: was the own. Oh my god, this is a black molly.
Speaker 12: What the.
Speaker 1: Put us on.
Speaker 3: You?
Speaker 2: Like a black.
Speaker 1: Like all that stuff. Now it's just like that's not
Speaker 1: there's the mumble jumble stuff. Now you know what I'm saying. So,
Speaker 1: like I said, this is my high school days. So
Speaker 1: my high school days. I graduated in the high school
Speaker 1: in eighty four. Okay, And so imagine our era of
Speaker 1: getting lifted and you're looking good and we're gonna respect you.
Speaker 1: I just started training again, be black. I'm getting my
Speaker 1: You know, I love food, man, I love I love
Speaker 1: ice cream. I love hersy shot shot all that. It's
Speaker 1: the first time ice cream shout it out on the broadcast. Wait,
Speaker 1: that's all. And that's that's when you go to the
Speaker 1: ice cream.
Speaker 3: If you go to the baskeroom ride and you get
Speaker 3: treat scoops in the cup, it ain't official till you
Speaker 3: take the hersy syrup.
Speaker 1: You can't shot.
Speaker 3: Syrup when you when you make a wooler, you don't
Speaker 3: want to see no greens. Let you know, the green
Speaker 3: is in the blood.
Speaker 1: That's how you do it.
Speaker 2: Let's go.
Speaker 1: That's the level drugs, you know. So I don't I
Speaker 1: just say that they really just far from all the time.
Speaker 3: That we've lost and that we've lost to all different
Speaker 3: things from being shot, being the bad disease and eating
Speaker 3: bad health all that stuff. It let me know I'm
Speaker 3: here for a reason. Love your life and fix your
Speaker 3: life to be able to have a longer life. My
Speaker 3: parents are eighty My parents, my dad's eighty eight. They
Speaker 3: they got issues, but they still kicking. My father makes
Speaker 3: all the food. He's like, get away from say, out
Speaker 3: of my kitchen. Let me take it on my way.
Speaker 1: I want to be eighty eight doing that. But I
Speaker 1: guarantee they never did the black molly. You don't know
Speaker 1: that his way with the black molly.
Speaker 2: I'm in.
Speaker 1: When I was in high school, you have, yes, tenth
Speaker 1: grade six? Ain't man talking about black mother? When I
Speaker 1: was sixteen?
Speaker 3: And when I was sixteen, there was only one ecstasy,
Speaker 3: only one. It was wait, wait, what year is this?
Speaker 3: Nineteen eighty eighty two? That was already yeah, okay, yeah,
Speaker 3: eighty two. Ext I'm forty one.
Speaker 1: Oh damn wait that ecstasy in eighty two? What the fuck?
Speaker 1: Actually a white man name?
Speaker 2: But everybody cool over here, bro, Why.
Speaker 1: Is that a surprise? Joe dude? It was only one
Speaker 1: ecstasy was closed this uh, this would right? This would yeah?
Speaker 3: It was.
Speaker 1: It was called ecstasy, yes, but damn it wasn't popping
Speaker 1: til then. I didn't know that you weren't around during
Speaker 1: that time. This no, no, I was about you tell
Speaker 1: you one ten years older than you, so you gotta relax.
Speaker 3: Eighty one.
Speaker 1: I graduated high school in eighty four. Grag listen, listen.
Speaker 1: There was like one style of XC, one style of milley.
Speaker 3: That was it. There wasn't all twenty and there was
Speaker 3: all these that wasn't really bear and cherry cherry juice
Speaker 3: and all these funny names.
Speaker 1: And you smoke coat smoker. Cocaine was more of a
Speaker 1: smoking cocaine. Let's call it cool.
Speaker 3: It's called cracko no woola is crack and weed a
Speaker 3: cool coke and a cigarette.
Speaker 1: How you smoke it's a crack Damn well, it's yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: seventy seven. It's all good. It's even the blackout. I
Speaker 1: was there. It was it was in my grandfather, but
Speaker 1: I was there staying with my grandfather. Turn off.
Speaker 3: But yeah, during those days, it was only one of
Speaker 3: each tide. That's why when I see what's going on now,
Speaker 3: it's like, damn man, these.
Speaker 1: People are so lost because there's all kinds of weird
Speaker 1: ship flowing.
Speaker 14: Now.
Speaker 1: Don't want to be around none of that, you know,
Speaker 1: we're around the pure.
Speaker 3: And again that that's kind of like the hippie seventies hallucinogens.
Speaker 1: It was a time and all the the the those
Speaker 1: beat is making the give the drugs a little bit
Speaker 1: of props.
Speaker 3: We have to be.
Speaker 1: You're the only guy that I feel like you got
Speaker 1: to making.
Speaker 3: Drugs.
Speaker 1: But but again, I'm glad that drink.
Speaker 3: I'm glad that I understand the concept of that era
Speaker 3: because understanding it and understanding where your cut off point is,
Speaker 3: you don't need to rehab. You reab yourself with your mind.
Speaker 3: I always said that you control of yourself. I know
Speaker 3: when control with you myself, that's too much. Go back
Speaker 3: to normal. And then that that's how people can wonder
Speaker 3: about you. But they can't say, yo, my man is lost,
Speaker 3: he's you can never say I'm gone.
Speaker 1: I'm always here. Let's make some for that now. He
Speaker 1: was recently beefing with what what Young Liggy was being.
Speaker 2: Listen from young Dog.
Speaker 1: You don't even know.
Speaker 16: I mean all of us from our time, we all
Speaker 16: describe what happened. He dissatisfied with the no, he's not,
Speaker 16: he's not. I'll say this.
Speaker 3: We avery targetment had a little listen I had a
Speaker 3: little hoosy verse situation.
Speaker 2: Oh that was you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, But.
Speaker 3: I wasn't offended by that, offended that he don't want
Speaker 3: to wrap to that if that's not what you want
Speaker 3: to wrap was massive, that's not.
Speaker 1: Really a beat. Don't make sense for him, don't make
Speaker 1: sense for him, don't make sense for him.
Speaker 3: Those gangsta you can wrap to for freestyle time out.
Speaker 3: It wasn't mass appeal.
Speaker 1: It was was from memory. Man, Sorry, I saw it too,
Speaker 1: and what happened? Describe I'm not rapping to that? So
Speaker 1: and he said, why is that break beat? So listen?
Speaker 3: He still would Twitter started blowing up on my Twitter.
Speaker 3: He started getting out of hand, everybody disting him. Then
Speaker 3: he joins in. So I watched see what he says.
Speaker 3: So I checked his traffic because I got to make
Speaker 3: sure I'm on point before I do anything. You always
Speaker 3: gotta stay focused.
Speaker 1: On being on point. I know who I am.
Speaker 3: I don't never want to be looked at as a
Speaker 3: person that got played ever and not really be looked
Speaker 3: that way. Absolutely, So when I checked the thread, I
Speaker 3: was like, yo, yeah, because it's getting out of hand.
Speaker 1: My fans are going hard on him, like yo, you
Speaker 1: know they they're doing enough with this. They want to
Speaker 1: kill him. Yeah, So I'm like, yo, I'm like, listen,
Speaker 1: big up to him. Man, he ain't get around to that.
Speaker 1: If he don't like that, he doesn't like that. That's
Speaker 1: what I put he said, then wrapped to what he
Speaker 1: feels like. It's comfortable. So that made him join in
Speaker 1: and said, yo, d m me. We damned each other.
Speaker 3: He said, listen, man, anything I can learn from you,
Speaker 3: put me on and and give me. I said, you
Speaker 3: know what, we didn't know what I said, I'm down
Speaker 3: to doing join with you. My fans may get mad,
Speaker 3: but the only nine The difference is I'm not going
Speaker 3: to make a record.
Speaker 1: That I can't let leave the studio to me and
Speaker 1: him on the same level where it say, yo, wait
Speaker 1: today you got to you gotta compromise yourself. You're gonna
Speaker 1: work no. But but that's what I like. Let me
Speaker 1: tell you something. Let me tell you something.
Speaker 5: When you work with Pream, you work with Pete, these
Speaker 5: brothers are so professional.
Speaker 1: All you gotta do is send the vocals and then relax.
Speaker 3: He told me the skills that I turned into my
Speaker 3: own skill and it's not biting them.
Speaker 1: But he's like Yo, this is how you do it.
Speaker 3: I was like.
Speaker 1: This, I say, yo, by I was like, how are
Speaker 1: you making that? I was like, how are you making
Speaker 1: the base get fuller? And mimick the sample? He said,
Speaker 1: it's the same sample, but I feel to them. I'm like,
Speaker 1: but how do you do that? And he says, come over,
Speaker 1: I'll show you, but don't show me. He showed me.
Speaker 3: I'm like, so you turn it to that same thing
Speaker 3: we have. But I never knew that part of the
Speaker 3: equipment he said, turned into that. I started doing it
Speaker 3: ex girl or the next girl.
Speaker 1: That's one of my joints rights. This reminds me of
Speaker 1: all my relationships. So when it goes in that part,
Speaker 1: where does it go? It muffled. I sent it to
Speaker 1: Pete to make sure I was doing it right. I
Speaker 1: love my wife.
Speaker 3: Sorry, I believe in myself and all that stuff, but
Speaker 3: I wanted to make sure I was doing it right.
Speaker 3: So I sent it to him for approval and I go, yo.
Speaker 1: Did I do it right? He goes, Lo, that's gonna
Speaker 1: be a hit. It was a hit, big hit.
Speaker 3: So when you come back, that right there shows you
Speaker 3: that there is respect for what he was doing before
Speaker 3: I even knew how he was doing it. He was
Speaker 3: willing to show me the trick because he knew. He
Speaker 3: didn't think it like, oh no, you would beat my
Speaker 3: bite my style, Nah, let me borrow that tool. And
Speaker 3: then when I applied that tool, it wasn't a bite.
Speaker 3: It's just another another extension of what he taught me.
Speaker 3: That's why hamlags professors showbiz on my three mentors and
Speaker 3: again Marlly.
Speaker 1: Marl didn't show me anything in person, but just what
Speaker 1: he did.
Speaker 3: Make the music with your mouth biz. Nobody beats to Biz,
Speaker 3: rode to the ridges. A lot of people in the
Speaker 3: circle have said they've given him them the I gave
Speaker 3: him that record.
Speaker 1: That's all good. He did the.
Speaker 3: That's what it's all about. Who made it bounce that way?
Speaker 3: Who made your echo sound that way?
Speaker 1: Who made your voice sound funky that way?
Speaker 3: Marlly did it, And that's all that matters to me
Speaker 3: because that's what makes me the premiere in order to
Speaker 3: be to stay doing it the way you do it
Speaker 3: for the rest of my life and in my passion,
Speaker 3: it's because of how I study a great one. So
Speaker 3: whatever you brought to him is what you brought to him.
Speaker 3: He still made it glow. Guruus to always say that
Speaker 3: you and Eddie Sancho make everything glow. He said, I
Speaker 3: just laid my part down, but you make it light up.
Speaker 3: Mally makes things light up. So no matter what you
Speaker 3: bring him or you gave him everything, he made it
Speaker 3: light up. And without the light, there's darkness. I want
Speaker 3: to be in light. What do y'all think about like
Speaker 3: the separation of sampling and hip hop?
Speaker 1: No, I mean does it matter. We understand the rules
Speaker 1: and the sample of law.
Speaker 3: I mean I understand it sampling finance, but it takes
Speaker 3: away the soul me personally.
Speaker 1: I think sometimes it doesn't. You just get ill with
Speaker 1: your sample. Well man cutting it so nobody knows what
Speaker 1: it is. If it's bad, but you're still sampling, you
Speaker 1: may go and just get there. You're still sampling little bootprint,
Speaker 1: which is what which?
Speaker 3: Yeah, the traps, I mean we're lost because we're not
Speaker 3: records in little little Oh, like we know now the
Speaker 3: safety Z versus and then it's a point where we
Speaker 3: got to do it and it's really that that that
Speaker 3: that important? Clear clear clear Now I got mad clear now, No,
Speaker 3: we got no money. We can't clear anything.
Speaker 1: Don't tell me that I.
Speaker 2: Like I said, he taught me scratch ups. If you
Speaker 2: just listen to a lot of my joints, it's just
Speaker 2: me scratches.
Speaker 1: And they're crazy. You were doing radio already with Marley ma.
Speaker 3: I'm like, damn, this new guy, Pete Browden, he's nasty
Speaker 3: because Molly had a certain scratch style.
Speaker 5: Showed us out there, kind of found Nigga, I'm gonna
Speaker 5: smoke with camel crush.
Speaker 1: In our face. Our face died because it.
Speaker 3: Just give us cancer people, Okay with white people like
Speaker 3: lucky strikes, callnaments?
Speaker 1: You got the momaments? Are you good the white person?
Speaker 3: What? When we did the record, the record that we
Speaker 3: did together, I say, I think that I was the
Speaker 3: first person to ask you to cut up Guru's vocals.
Speaker 1: Was I would have sent me everything, right, every person
Speaker 1: to do that or no, no, no no.
Speaker 3: But after his death, that's what I'm saying, Oh yeah, yeah, okay,
Speaker 3: you send me everything.
Speaker 9: Yeah no.
Speaker 3: He had hosted Mad States from me. He had case
Speaker 3: and I was honored. Yeah yeah, yeah, No d J
Speaker 3: e f N no ef N was Guru DJ was case?
Speaker 3: Damn your memory really isn't backing?
Speaker 2: Have nothing against him?
Speaker 1: I think they have hill memories. Yeah, memory, I apologize fact,
Speaker 1: no need, but passes. There's no apology needed when you
Speaker 1: had this word, so pol don't get that.
Speaker 5: Only sold one million records, so you have to you
Speaker 5: think it's better stop listen seasons, all right, but google Bachaco?
Speaker 1: Who passes away? What's what? What's this man?
Speaker 3: His name?
Speaker 1: You gotta say it. I can't say no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: not even yeah, holy ship? What's going on right now?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 1: He'll help me out. He don't deserve, he don't deserve
Speaker 1: to be being said from instead a good person. Ain't
Speaker 1: gonna say the Solar and the friends. No, no, that's
Speaker 1: two different ones and it's not the same. He's so large,
Speaker 1: so l a, it's another soul. He's from France.
Speaker 3: He's dope, that's my dude, right, So there's another so together,
Speaker 3: all right, so we got to clarify.
Speaker 5: That's so I'm so sorry to actually as long as
Speaker 5: you said. But Solar makes these claims, and then with
Speaker 5: this premier standing on these claims.
Speaker 3: Ohship and all that type of stuff put to you
Speaker 3: like this, people could yeah say what they want to
Speaker 3: say and all that type of stuff.
Speaker 1: That's all cool because I don't have nothing to say
Speaker 1: when it comes to that. But if old boy does anything,
Speaker 1: then I'm.
Speaker 3: Gonna have a lot to sense a problem. Sybil and plan.
Speaker 3: That's my belichick, mam, and heard you.
Speaker 1: That was Bill BELLI done. What's agree? We love you,
Speaker 1: we love you back, and we love you and everything
Speaker 1: you meant to hip hop and then you know it
Speaker 1: was it was a funny moment. What everything I mean
Speaker 1: to him?
Speaker 5: Everything I apologize, you mean the hip hop and you know,
Speaker 5: it was a funny moment for us in hip hop
Speaker 5: when we got to hear like, you know, it's like
Speaker 5: yo gangs so and you know room and then then
Speaker 5: this guy we never because it's similar to how Pun like.
Speaker 5: When Pun died, I walked to his casket and they
Speaker 5: told me, I said, all the.
Speaker 3: Jewels, because I thought the most funeral rooms the caskets
Speaker 3: at the front. His was in the middle, middle of
Speaker 3: the lord. So when I'm walking like he was right there,
Speaker 3: right there, and the casket. I've never seen a casket
Speaker 3: like this. Okay, I've never seen the castle like this.
Speaker 3: The casket was short and super duper live, and he
Speaker 3: had all his ts changed around his hands and it
Speaker 3: looked like he was kissing the sky because the lips
Speaker 3: were puck it up, like that's the man.
Speaker 5: That's my point to bring this up was when I
Speaker 5: when I went to Punt's casket, people told me that
Speaker 5: Pun and subject, that something Pun suffered, right.
Speaker 1: And that now he's in a better place. And I didn't.
Speaker 1: I didn't know what people meant by that. So when
Speaker 1: I heard, you know, Googles, yeah, and I've never I've
Speaker 1: never seen Google suffering, nah, So I ain't neither me either.
Speaker 1: So everything was just a strange to not just me, everybody,
Speaker 1: and like, if not the fans who we are massive,
Speaker 1: it's strange to everybody. It's strange to me. It's strange
Speaker 1: to the fans because old boy don't know my man
Speaker 1: like I know my man.
Speaker 3: We know him well, Yes, yes, If I really wanted
Speaker 3: to grade dude on a five quiz question.
Speaker 1: There, I guarantee you'll fail. Every answer simple and plain because.
Speaker 3: You had to really really really really really really really
Speaker 3: really know my So you will fail. I can watch
Speaker 3: you right now and make every little sense simple questions.
Speaker 3: How hard on simple questions?
Speaker 1: He's going to fail.
Speaker 3: And it's gonna also be multiple choice ABC A D
Speaker 3: not gonna pick the right answer.
Speaker 1: And I know this because I know this and I
Speaker 1: know him. I know both of them.
Speaker 3: So that's why I don't entertain him, because anytime he
Speaker 3: wants to ever go there, I'm here.
Speaker 1: I mean, if I'm not here, I'm here, you feel me.
Speaker 1: I will not say his name. It's because hip hop
Speaker 1: needed to hear that hip hop?
Speaker 2: How can we make them do that?
Speaker 1: When things is the right move?
Speaker 3: I know when it is about the right people around me,
Speaker 3: from legal to my management, to my artists, to the street.
Speaker 3: Me even being in the street, I have extream mentality
Speaker 3: that keeps me grounded. And I have a dope mom
Speaker 3: and dad and sisters and niece and nephews. Your five
Speaker 3: year old son, who's my dude, shout to his mother.
Speaker 3: She's everybody Like, we're that connected on making sure we
Speaker 3: don't ever fuck up with the social media.
Speaker 1: Stuff making us look like we're fools. Ain't going out
Speaker 1: like that. I'm premiere. Listen, I'm gonna be honest. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna be honest with me. And this guy to the
Speaker 1: right of me started this and we sat down and
Speaker 1: we said we want the only give love to the legends.
Speaker 1: The legends and hip hop.
Speaker 5: You guys are the impitted me of leg This is
Speaker 5: this is the pinnacle and I can't I can't thank
Speaker 5: you enough, like you know, both of you guys that
Speaker 5: gave me beats.
Speaker 10: And that's what's crazy about this about it is I
Speaker 10: still can't do that. I still oh yeah, I still
Speaker 10: owe you both because I love.
Speaker 1: You, don't na, I love you guys, because definitely I'm starting.
Speaker 1: I'm just ready to give yourself.
Speaker 6: Would that be that me tonight? Please give me that
Speaker 6: be That's crazy, man, Dude, I was going to peep
Speaker 6: with imagine you give me because I want Pete to know, so.
Speaker 1: Up the club. I really want to do this for
Speaker 1: your album, Pete.
Speaker 5: For man, if it wasn't for you, guys, I probably
Speaker 5: wouldn't have a childhood, no doubt.
Speaker 1: And this is real ship, man, that's real ship. I
Speaker 1: really love you. Joint said we love but I want
Speaker 1: to just tell I heard oh okay, look I don't Swiss.
Speaker 3: Swiss not only killed that everybody on that song destroyed
Speaker 3: and dude, you.
Speaker 1: Had I wanted to do a posse cut. You know
Speaker 1: what happened. I wanted to do a posse cut your
Speaker 1: body that open whoever get crazy ship, whoever goes first
Speaker 1: to me, and whoever goes last has the most pressure.
Speaker 1: I went last. That was that era because right now
Speaker 1: the record, I have to punt. It was nature pun
Speaker 1: cam what what you wanted?
Speaker 5: I'm the last you can what what all you wanted?
Speaker 5: That's what I wanted to do, dude. But you know what,
Speaker 5: my whole life, my whole career wouldn't make sense.
Speaker 1: I have a question if it.
Speaker 2: Was for you.
Speaker 3: I have a question on that song he said, That's
Speaker 3: why I'll never do a song with you. Wasn't directed
Speaker 3: to anybody else.
Speaker 1: I just hate you're talking about somebody, bro, I want
Speaker 1: what I know he was talking about somebody directing somebody
Speaker 1: or is because you know, I can also be universal.
Speaker 1: Just he's somebody I know this guy like that's why
Speaker 1: I'm not It was like Joseph on the Block.
Speaker 5: It's very trick because the thing about it is this,
Speaker 5: I'm very pretty for me. I'm sorry sometimes you got
Speaker 5: to I'm very credit Pete.
Speaker 1: So just I don't get trying to come up and
Speaker 1: you take a slight shot at me, I'm coming to
Speaker 1: fuck out. I'm bodying you on the wreck, which is
Speaker 1: very very but that's what that's who I am when
Speaker 1: I met him. This is how he looked at me.
Speaker 3: Get only twist in his head that he's at the
Speaker 3: front door. Yo, we gotta sesching up a D N
Speaker 3: D yo for me. I love your stuff, yo, Jo,
Speaker 3: how you doing?
Speaker 1: He's like, yeah, but l A l A l A
Speaker 1: was really bumping with a lot of d js at
Speaker 1: that time. It was early, so we don't really know
Speaker 1: who he is yet.
Speaker 17: We just know weise got raw rockm morale like emeralds
Speaker 17: and morale.
Speaker 3: L A l A. That's my first meeting in him.
Speaker 3: Not he goes the weeds like like, don't forget a
Speaker 3: little dip is the reason why you and I. But
Speaker 3: the song was already out where.
Speaker 1: It's like, that's to do that the day and that's
Speaker 1: the verse that maybe J I can't believe you know
Speaker 1: I got We just did a b for you right now. Yeah,
Speaker 1: let me tell you something. You know what we gotta
Speaker 1: do somewhere we make a beat together, which we never done.
Speaker 3: We start things that drinks that right now because you know,
Speaker 3: you know, you know, you don't know if you're not
Speaker 3: you know, I don't know, I don't know if you
Speaker 3: know wherever state you are, I'll fly like that far
Speaker 3: and I would just love you for Lace and Black
Speaker 3: Poets album black Print.
Speaker 1: Oh no, no problem, problem body that problem. But this
Speaker 1: is the reason why you're so much of important producer.
Speaker 5: You can go and you can work with Carsina, and
Speaker 5: then you can turn around and you still care.
Speaker 1: A black music listen. I love music. I love ship listen.
Speaker 1: I love that I get to consider.
Speaker 2: That's what it is.
Speaker 3: I like this.
Speaker 1: I like messing with all styles of music because I
Speaker 1: am into.
Speaker 3: Country, blues, gospel rock on yeah, praier View is the
Speaker 3: town drinks.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the DJ screw by the way, DJ Screw, let's
Speaker 1: talk about but the leans to But even that, that's
Speaker 1: when it was like now it's an epidemic.
Speaker 3: It wasn't epidemic then, and it was something that you
Speaker 3: just did every occasion, like going out to a bar.
Speaker 1: And having I don't drink every day. I don't you know.
Speaker 1: I got I got work to do it.
Speaker 3: I business a handle. I stay focused. From a five
Speaker 3: year old son, I'm focused.
Speaker 1: But you're still question they're about to open the car.
Speaker 3: Finish.
Speaker 1: So I mean so.
Speaker 3: A lot of the things again that are just out
Speaker 3: of control, are just way publicized or promoted on a
Speaker 3: higher pedestal.
Speaker 1: I already did all that stuff.
Speaker 3: It's about living past that and being able to still
Speaker 3: function on what's the matters that keep you in the
Speaker 3: longevity bucket.
Speaker 1: I want to be in the longevity bucket. I don't
Speaker 1: want to be in the eye. You know you had
Speaker 1: your time bucket. My bucket. I want to go all
Speaker 1: the way even again. When I'm gone, it's still hot.
Speaker 1: Gang starts still hot.
Speaker 3: I keep gangs start still hot because I care about
Speaker 3: not just his legacy and our legacy as a.
Speaker 1: Team, but his son. He has a sixteen year old son.
Speaker 1: I'm making sure his son's eating. I'm making sure his
Speaker 1: son's getting everything that his father's have. I wouldn't feel
Speaker 1: right that.
Speaker 2: Hell.
Speaker 1: My model is this. I can sleep at night.
Speaker 2: That's my mind.
Speaker 1: That's the most important thing at night. I can sleep
Speaker 1: at night. A lot of people you can go. You
Speaker 1: don't understand that like anybody else, But.
Speaker 3: My nightmares are clear from how I analyzed what I
Speaker 3: woke up to business.
Speaker 1: You can sleep, man. My mind is strong.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 1: So I'm going to end this podcast, but I can't
Speaker 1: thank you brothers enough. Thank for having for helping helping me.
Speaker 5: Both of you both helped me personally because my career
Speaker 5: couldn't be complete. I could never complete my career without
Speaker 5: having a beat, rock beat, the premier beat appreciation. Hip
Speaker 5: hop is what I want to continue to represent.
Speaker 1: I want to continue to stand by it.
Speaker 5: I can't believe twenty five million and I hate this
Speaker 5: guy right here a me brous you knew you had
Speaker 5: a twenty five million flat?
Speaker 1: Let me ask. You should have told me on Wednesday. No, No,
Speaker 1: you just a good friend. You deserve. I want to
Speaker 1: surprise you at.
Speaker 11: You don't know that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love you. Yeah, I'm having a movie, but
Speaker 1: I love you.
Speaker 6: I let you.
Speaker 1: I can't believe just you asked.
Speaker 3: Yes, everything I do outside of hip hop, when I
Speaker 3: do hip hop, I keep it hood, keep it hood.
Speaker 1: Everything else I can do balance, slow songs, pop songs.
Speaker 1: I like that music too.
Speaker 3: Yes, hip hop, I keep keep it hood because that's
Speaker 3: why I like to listen to it when I buy it, drive.
Speaker 1: To it, or have my radio. If it's either my
Speaker 1: radio or this. You guys are the bedrock. Please stay
Speaker 1: let's rock listen.
Speaker 5: If it wasn't for YouTube, brothers, I wouldn't have a childhood.
Speaker 1: You brothers, that's well deserved what you got.
Speaker 2: It's better than you could say.
Speaker 1: Ain't gonna let's be on wrap. This is a podcast.
Speaker 1: They should make it platinum though, why do you make it?
Speaker 1: Go Matt Steps, it's not twenty five five hundred. You
Speaker 1: know what, You're right, you know what, you know what?
Speaker 11: He actually right, It should be, should be. I'm just
Speaker 11: happy to be here right now and listen, give thanks
Speaker 11: man too.
Speaker 5: Of the best producers of all times have just now
Speaker 5: sat down absolutely all drink champs and.
Speaker 2: The bi up.
Speaker 1: Cut the check and if you have a one more shot,
Speaker 1: one ship shot because at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: and we're gonna say and watching the battle.
Speaker 5: Because when I seen the battle and when I see
Speaker 5: that they said, this is the first time, excuse me
Speaker 5: say the whole thing, don't.
Speaker 1: My brother, I definitely have a shot. Careful.
Speaker 5: When they said that this is the first time us battled,
Speaker 5: no shot.
Speaker 1: Terrible. I felt terrible.
Speaker 5: They said that this is the first time the produces
Speaker 5: first bat And I knew that y'all guys have done this.
Speaker 5: I knew that just Blazer actually had done it with
Speaker 5: Alchemists before and so I wanted to. I wanted to
Speaker 5: actually big you brothers up because I understand what it is.
Speaker 5: But I also understand that Swiss also knows he's a.
Speaker 1: Student of the game, because he never said that. He
Speaker 1: never saw I love you, brothers.
Speaker 5: If you motherfuckers can't, if your motherfucker's Google don't work,
Speaker 5: you need to relax because these are the two of us,
Speaker 5: the best producers of all fucking time, Pete and Premier
Speaker 5: of best producers of all
Speaker 1: Let's take that FI drop