WEBVTT - #Throwback Episode - w/ DJ Premier & Pete Rock | (Ep.68) 0:00:01.360 --> 0:00:06.520 Yeah, what's up, y'all was going on Bro Drinks. He's 0:00:06.559 --> 0:00:09.480 a legendary Queen's rapper. Hey Hanks agree? Is your boy 0:00:09.520 --> 0:00:12.800 in OI? He's a Miami hip hop pioneer. What Up 0:00:12.840 --> 0:00:13.920 is dj E f N? 0:00:14.120 --> 0:00:14.520 Together? 0:00:14.640 --> 0:00:16.960 They drink it up with some of the biggest players 0:00:16.960 --> 0:00:18.280 in music and sports. 0:00:18.360 --> 0:00:18.880 You know what I mean? 0:00:19.120 --> 0:00:23.480 The most professional, unprofessional podcast and your number one source 0:00:23.520 --> 0:00:24.400 for drunk facts. 0:00:24.520 --> 0:00:27.160 This is drinks Champed. Every day is New Year's Eve. 0:00:27.280 --> 0:00:32.559 That's right, Hey Hanks agree? Hold this up means your 0:00:32.560 --> 0:00:33.839 boy in What Up? 0:00:33.880 --> 0:00:34.880 Is dj e f N? 0:00:34.960 --> 0:00:37.160 And this drinks mona fucker podcast makes. 0:00:42.600 --> 0:00:44.600 You've got some of that presents you guys on behalf 0:00:44.640 --> 0:00:45.559 of CBS. 0:00:45.560 --> 0:00:47.479 Oh okay, okay, and that's when Jeff, But they want 0:00:47.479 --> 0:00:50.280 to congratulate you on twenty five million listen. 0:00:50.320 --> 0:00:53.120 Wow, oh damn oh that. 0:00:57.240 --> 0:00:58.880 I don't get what. 0:01:02.360 --> 0:01:02.880 You knew it? 0:01:03.480 --> 0:01:06.560 You know this is going there. You didn't tell me 0:01:06.600 --> 0:01:16.600 you fucking that million and doing hip ho. We're doing 0:01:16.600 --> 0:01:19.400 it hip hop. So I would like to introduce. 0:01:20.680 --> 0:01:24.520 If you are into hip hop, if you if this 0:01:24.560 --> 0:01:26.840 is something that you say you love and this is 0:01:26.840 --> 0:01:29.360 something to say you adapted and you don't know these 0:01:29.400 --> 0:01:32.080 two brothers, and you don't know how these brothers shaped 0:01:32.120 --> 0:01:36.440 and molded the culture for everything that you love right 0:01:36.480 --> 0:01:38.880 now if it wasn't for these two people that standing 0:01:39.120 --> 0:01:44.839 besides me in front of me. Rather what hip hop 0:01:45.000 --> 0:01:52.560 is is because of them. They single handedly had their 0:01:52.640 --> 0:01:57.960 hands on the best artists ever. When you think about Illmatic, 0:01:58.360 --> 0:02:00.720 think about reasonable doubt about Biggie. 0:02:01.280 --> 0:02:04.639 They worked with the three top best. 0:02:06.480 --> 0:02:09.640 They continuously out here looking young, they out here and 0:02:09.680 --> 0:02:12.639 then and then the beat battle had just took place, 0:02:13.080 --> 0:02:15.840 and a lot of people with Swiss beats bigging. 0:02:15.600 --> 0:02:16.960 Him up and big up just Blade. 0:02:17.120 --> 0:02:18.600 But a lot of people don't know that these brothers 0:02:18.680 --> 0:02:21.960 been doing this for years, for years, they started it, 0:02:22.240 --> 0:02:25.720 and I am so proud to introduce and to represent 0:02:26.440 --> 0:02:28.239 people that I look up to personally. 0:02:29.960 --> 0:02:37.920 Pete Rocken, motherfucker DJ. You're listening, brothers. So I'm gonna 0:02:37.919 --> 0:02:41.839 be honest. The fact that both of you brothers had 0:02:41.880 --> 0:02:46.480 worked on my favorite hip hop album of all times, 0:02:46.840 --> 0:02:48.040 which is Illmatic. 0:02:49.680 --> 0:02:50.480 Now, I just want to. 0:02:50.480 --> 0:02:53.560 Take it from there, because was it because we had 0:02:53.600 --> 0:02:56.880 q Tip on here? And I believe q Tip. I 0:02:56.919 --> 0:03:00.359 think he said he suggested that he worked with them, 0:03:00.919 --> 0:03:04.200 or so how did Yeah, yeah, so was it large. 0:03:05.840 --> 0:03:06.120 Together? 0:03:06.320 --> 0:03:10.639 He oh wow, actual chief in command some week week 0:03:11.320 --> 0:03:13.960 actual the chief and command of mad Get. 0:03:14.440 --> 0:03:17.399 So you telling me you never heard of not both. 0:03:17.360 --> 0:03:20.639 Brothers and the thing is back. You know queen's artists, 0:03:20.840 --> 0:03:24.200 including yourself. For one, y'all rapped longer than any other 0:03:25.639 --> 0:03:31.160 with no hooks, and you know, love of visit is 0:03:31.200 --> 0:03:33.840 so New York like he'd be like yo, like yo, 0:03:34.040 --> 0:03:37.280 like like world like yo. He do that for like 0:03:37.280 --> 0:03:39.880 ten minutes before he said sence, he was like, yo, 0:03:40.160 --> 0:03:40.960 your prema got this. 0:03:41.080 --> 0:03:44.800 Do name the rappernas nasty? It wasn't last. 0:03:49.120 --> 0:03:55.200 In his lyrics, so he wasn't even nasty. 0:03:55.400 --> 0:03:59.440 He does it on hanging. He like the reppernas. Yeah, 0:03:59.680 --> 0:04:01.200 he says, you know. 0:04:01.320 --> 0:04:03.920 And so even rapping big noise, I figured, that's just 0:04:03.960 --> 0:04:06.720 the thing, that's a queen thing. 0:04:07.320 --> 0:04:08.120 That's a queen thing. 0:04:08.200 --> 0:04:10.040 And we got we got Pete Rock. I mean, we 0:04:10.080 --> 0:04:16.480 got premier drinking jim Bean out mother glasses when someone 0:04:16.560 --> 0:04:17.400 opened one for me. 0:04:17.440 --> 0:04:22.640 Please whatever, you're just so, y'all know that. 0:04:22.800 --> 0:04:25.719 So y'all know, y'all been y'all, y'all personally raised me. 0:04:25.960 --> 0:04:29.800 You probably didn't know that but it was so honor 0:04:29.880 --> 0:04:32.480 to work with both of you brothers. Your brothers are 0:04:32.640 --> 0:04:36.080 hip hop. When I think of hip hop, your name. 0:04:36.200 --> 0:04:38.240 I know both of your names start with A pete, 0:04:38.400 --> 0:04:41.239 but it feels like it feels like your name should 0:04:41.279 --> 0:04:41.440 be a. 0:04:42.240 --> 0:04:42.440 You know. 0:04:42.560 --> 0:04:44.719 The first time I met you DN D. Let's go 0:04:44.800 --> 0:04:47.120 to D and D studio front door. You know what 0:04:47.160 --> 0:04:49.680 he's saying, Hey, y'o from man was something. Man, Yo, 0:04:49.760 --> 0:04:54.320 my name is Loui and the thing is the l 0:04:54.360 --> 0:05:01.960 A l A record. Yeah, okay, we got him drinking 0:05:02.720 --> 0:05:03.360 years old. Man. 0:05:04.680 --> 0:05:07.960 I know, I know, I know you're gonna do on 0:05:08.040 --> 0:05:09.039 whiskey and do something. 0:05:09.040 --> 0:05:12.520 I'll do this rocking nobody. 0:05:12.760 --> 0:05:14.359 You're trying to give him that shot and then you 0:05:14.400 --> 0:05:15.159 call another one. 0:05:15.480 --> 0:05:18.720 But but the crazy thing is when I heard l 0:05:18.760 --> 0:05:22.200 A l A, you opened up lids, Louise, Louise. 0:05:22.760 --> 0:05:23.320 That's how we do. 0:05:27.640 --> 0:05:33.919 For Pete rocket for. I used to hang in Queens 0:05:33.960 --> 0:05:35.000 with Flush. 0:05:35.360 --> 0:05:39.880 I heard you play unreleased on me Casina. Was that 0:05:40.040 --> 0:05:41.599 unreleased Flush versus. 0:05:42.320 --> 0:05:45.880 That was worldwide remix? I never put at that beat. 0:05:45.920 --> 0:05:46.240 That beat. 0:05:46.320 --> 0:05:48.640 We got to do that back for y'all. You're ringing 0:05:48.680 --> 0:05:53.080 for you all. I gotta do that beating for you. 0:05:53.640 --> 0:05:55.480 Also, big you up of plugging me in the Supreme 0:05:55.560 --> 0:05:58.440 and people don't know pe Rock was the person that 0:05:58.560 --> 0:05:59.800 plugged me in with the Creme. 0:06:00.040 --> 0:06:00.240 Know that. 0:06:00.320 --> 0:06:02.520 Let's make some Lloyd smoke, right, Yeah, I do, but 0:06:04.200 --> 0:06:04.520 I did. 0:06:04.560 --> 0:06:07.800 I didn't mind, you know, in ninety two. So let's 0:06:08.040 --> 0:06:10.520 another Herves still Flow. Now, let's still flow. Let's take 0:06:10.520 --> 0:06:13.440 it from the beginning Still Flow Premier. How did you 0:06:13.520 --> 0:06:15.640 in and Google? 0:06:15.640 --> 0:06:16.000 Even me? 0:06:16.680 --> 0:06:21.119 I met gool because it goes back to nineteen eighty 0:06:21.240 --> 0:06:24.680 seven into eighty eight. My good friend who's still my man, 0:06:24.920 --> 0:06:27.920 Carlos Garza in Houston, Texas, helped me get a job 0:06:27.920 --> 0:06:32.320 at the front regis he's and he's a boss Boston. 0:06:32.720 --> 0:06:36.400 So Wild Pitch Records is a husband and wife label 0:06:36.440 --> 0:06:39.920 shop Stu Fin and with that search search was later, 0:06:40.000 --> 0:06:40.800 Surge was later. 0:06:40.880 --> 0:06:42.880 Yeah, it was just Stup Fine and his wife, no 0:06:42.960 --> 0:06:43.320 one else. 0:06:43.320 --> 0:06:46.640 They never rapp Promotion Guru was a person that would 0:06:46.640 --> 0:06:49.080 go over their house every day and then listening to 0:06:49.080 --> 0:06:52.360 every demo that came in. They had Latti already signed. 0:06:52.360 --> 0:06:56.040 Who's Apache Recipes? That's Apache's brother Wow, and did a 0:06:56.080 --> 0:06:57.760 lot of writing, you know with Latifa and in the 0:06:57.800 --> 0:06:59.960 Flavor Unit and he had a record call this cut 0:07:00.080 --> 0:07:01.080 got Flavored, which was big in. 0:07:01.120 --> 0:07:03.320 New York at the time. That isn't putting on the hiss. 0:07:03.520 --> 0:07:05.600 That's how forty five King came into doing the wild 0:07:05.600 --> 0:07:08.600 pitch work. And then Jill rob G came along. 0:07:08.360 --> 0:07:10.600 Who's also part of Lati's crew in the Flavor Unit, 0:07:10.960 --> 0:07:13.560 and he got signed a Wild Pitch Gangstar I got 0:07:13.560 --> 0:07:17.440 signed after that in nineteen eighty six, and so they 0:07:17.440 --> 0:07:19.120 had a rec call the lesson I wasn't in the group. 0:07:19.160 --> 0:07:22.280 Then three Gangstar goes through three different chambers. The first 0:07:22.360 --> 0:07:26.040 chamber was Big Sug and Gool Gangstar. 0:07:26.600 --> 0:07:27.640 It was Big Sugar. 0:07:27.480 --> 0:07:30.280 Gurul when when Goo was going to school at more House, right, 0:07:30.520 --> 0:07:33.440 so they they they were both from Boston, Yeah Yeah, And. 0:07:33.880 --> 0:07:37.080 It was Shug Brother swave D. They were the first 0:07:37.080 --> 0:07:37.560 Gang Star. 0:07:37.720 --> 0:07:41.960 Then swave D stepped out and it became two ms Damodiski, 0:07:42.240 --> 0:07:44.400 but Guru wrote all the rhymes and it was Guru 0:07:44.480 --> 0:07:47.280 and then DJ Mike D but he was called DJ 0:07:47.440 --> 0:07:50.320 want to Be Down Wow, but it's the DJ one. 0:07:50.600 --> 0:07:53.840 The number two name let her Be and Jay want 0:07:53.840 --> 0:07:56.280 to Be Down. It was one the number two let 0:07:56.360 --> 0:07:58.680 her be and then down want to be down. So 0:07:59.280 --> 0:08:02.640 he he has a brother named Gangstar t you know 0:08:02.680 --> 0:08:03.160 what I'm saying. 0:08:05.360 --> 0:08:07.040 So all of that trickled down into the name. 0:08:07.120 --> 0:08:11.400 But Sugar and Guru originated again shot the Sugar everything 0:08:11.440 --> 0:08:15.520 he's doing, the things and movies now like yeah, we're 0:08:15.560 --> 0:08:18.760 working with Larry David all that stuff. So so from there, 0:08:19.920 --> 0:08:21.560 when Goo moved to New York, the rest of the 0:08:21.640 --> 0:08:24.040 members didn't. Sugar got locked up for a while, so 0:08:24.520 --> 0:08:27.640 now it's just grew on his own. But anytime work 0:08:27.680 --> 0:08:30.000 wouldn't involved with any money, no one would come up 0:08:30.040 --> 0:08:32.280 to New York to help him doing any movement around, 0:08:32.800 --> 0:08:34.600 hopping around to get get in the clubs, get on 0:08:34.600 --> 0:08:36.640 the radio, because they weren't. They weren't really getting radio 0:08:36.640 --> 0:08:39.640 played till they dropped their second single called Buster Move Boy, 0:08:39.920 --> 0:08:41.320 which is when I heard him. I was in New 0:08:41.400 --> 0:08:43.600 York at the time for the summer and Red Alert 0:08:43.640 --> 0:08:45.360 was cutting it up, mally Mal was cutting it up, 0:08:45.400 --> 0:08:47.559 and if they're playing it and I thought they were 0:08:47.600 --> 0:08:50.640 called game Stop because of his Boston accent. 0:08:50.679 --> 0:08:58.199 He's his gang sty but knowledge that's about that. 0:08:59.320 --> 0:09:02.160 Yeah, But this is right before how anything in control 0:09:02.280 --> 0:09:05.480 was just about to start bubbling but before Magic left. 0:09:05.760 --> 0:09:07.920 But uh, and Chillie Q used to be up there, 0:09:07.960 --> 0:09:10.920 and and and Kevin cav So when. 0:09:10.880 --> 0:09:14.480 Yeah, and YouTube of course we met. When I met 0:09:14.480 --> 0:09:18.080 with Google, I met you had the red stroglet the mic. Yeah, yeah, 0:09:18.160 --> 0:09:19.360 you had to go out. 0:09:19.640 --> 0:09:22.360 He's like fucked up and he's like, now keep it going. 0:09:22.520 --> 0:09:24.120 Yeah, he'll keep going. You'll keep going. 0:09:24.440 --> 0:09:27.800 But so from that point, uh, those three artists were 0:09:27.800 --> 0:09:30.480 the label Chier, Rob g Lati and Gangstar and forty 0:09:30.480 --> 0:09:33.120 five King was the only producer that worked after that 0:09:33.160 --> 0:09:37.280 after Donald D produced the first single. So from there, uh, 0:09:37.559 --> 0:09:39.320 Google used to go through a box of the demos 0:09:39.360 --> 0:09:41.160 when every time mail came in, because back then it 0:09:41.240 --> 0:09:45.120 was about mailing your stuff, walking it in. Carlos snugg 0:09:45.280 --> 0:09:48.160 my my my demo over to Stu. 0:09:48.559 --> 0:09:49.800 Just be your beat, you know. 0:09:50.240 --> 0:09:53.040 I was in a group called mcason Control and Texas 0:09:53.240 --> 0:09:55.480 and my MC was from Boston's name was top Ski 0:09:56.240 --> 0:10:00.239 top Ski. We're uh, we're uh. 0:09:59.559 --> 0:10:01.840 Where's a keno a Lord? 0:10:02.320 --> 0:10:04.400 Tops Key Sugar Pop And. 0:10:08.320 --> 0:10:10.120 They heard my demo but they didn't like my MC. 0:10:10.240 --> 0:10:12.679 They like me and they were like we really want you. 0:10:12.720 --> 0:10:14.959 But I was like, basically saying, like the beats right 0:10:15.200 --> 0:10:18.320 and my scratching. They were bugging off my scratches. So 0:10:18.640 --> 0:10:20.120 I didn't really want to leave my. 0:10:20.120 --> 0:10:22.240 Group, so I said, I can't do it. I gotta stay, 0:10:22.400 --> 0:10:25.960 stay doing what I do. Tom passed my MC. Pretty 0:10:26.000 --> 0:10:28.760 much got frustrated after going shopping other deals. We couldn't 0:10:28.760 --> 0:10:30.880 get a deal, so he said, I'm joining the military. 0:10:30.920 --> 0:10:33.120 I thought he was just bluffing. One day, we're at 0:10:33.120 --> 0:10:35.400 the house shot to Gordon Franklin, the whole Franklin family, 0:10:35.440 --> 0:10:38.160 Gary Arden recipes in Maryland, Franklin. We were staying at 0:10:38.160 --> 0:10:40.120 their house after we were going to college together. That's 0:10:40.120 --> 0:10:42.320 how I met them. And next thing, you know, the 0:10:42.360 --> 0:10:45.080 bell rings on the weekend and the recruiting officers at 0:10:45.080 --> 0:10:47.000 the door on Yeah. Man, he said, yea, I'm looking 0:10:47.000 --> 0:10:49.040 for Theodore Campbell. And I'm like, for what he said, 0:10:49.080 --> 0:10:51.720 he signed he joined the Navy, and I thought I 0:10:51.760 --> 0:10:53.360 was like, I thought he was lying. I'm like, yo, 0:10:53.440 --> 0:10:56.160 topgether on the basement because we all lived together, and 0:10:56.200 --> 0:10:57.439 he's like, yo, I'm out. 0:10:57.520 --> 0:11:00.160 He has his bag packed already. I'm like, how did 0:11:00.160 --> 0:11:02.040 you did you? Did you join he said for four 0:11:02.120 --> 0:11:03.760 years at MC? Yeah, okay, he. 0:11:03.800 --> 0:11:07.400 Said, four years and already met top of everything. I'm 0:11:07.440 --> 0:11:09.080 like four years, so I'm not gonna wait for you 0:11:09.080 --> 0:11:11.520 for four years. He said, Yo, I'm out do your thing. 0:11:11.800 --> 0:11:14.840 And that's when I called back to Wild Pitch, say yo, 0:11:14.920 --> 0:11:17.400 my man. My man left, so now I'm available to 0:11:17.800 --> 0:11:19.679 not be Lived in the group because that's my front 0:11:19.679 --> 0:11:20.800 man and the grouls. 0:11:20.800 --> 0:11:22.200 I gotta want you in the group. So that's how 0:11:22.240 --> 0:11:26.120 I joined Gangs start and then from there Googs. He's 0:11:26.320 --> 0:11:28.640 on my tape and Lord for Neess's tape. 0:11:28.640 --> 0:11:31.160 That's how Lord from Nes got signed to Wild Pitch, 0:11:31.200 --> 0:11:32.080 and that's how I ended up. 0:11:32.200 --> 0:11:37.280 That's the first artist I ever produced was Lord. Let's 0:11:37.320 --> 0:11:45.760 take some noise for that. LA is like that? Okay, 0:11:45.800 --> 0:11:49.440 So now how did you meet? Y'all went to school together. 0:11:49.600 --> 0:11:50.480 Went to school together. 0:11:51.520 --> 0:11:55.440 Through some street guys, and you know when I heard, 0:11:55.480 --> 0:11:57.120 you know, they was telling me he could rap or whatever. 0:11:57.240 --> 0:11:59.080 And when I heard his voice in high school because 0:11:59.080 --> 0:12:00.000 he was always a producer. 0:12:01.240 --> 0:12:03.839 Yeah, well, in the hood, I started doing my high 0:12:03.880 --> 0:12:07.199 school parties djas. You know, I became a DJ in 0:12:07.240 --> 0:12:12.240 mynt RN motherfuckers, you know, flocked to so I met Clo. 0:12:12.440 --> 0:12:15.360 He had a distinctive voice. We did like fifty sixty 0:12:15.400 --> 0:12:17.319 demos in my basement on four. 0:12:17.200 --> 0:12:21.280 Track, four track, like and got signed off that ship, 0:12:21.640 --> 0:12:22.120 you know what I mean. 0:12:22.640 --> 0:12:25.200 Like we was taking like dance to the drummers beat 0:12:25.280 --> 0:12:28.560 and making songs, you know, taking the break beats that 0:12:28.840 --> 0:12:31.480 man Lenny from the Bronx was put street beat and 0:12:31.520 --> 0:12:34.320 I would make betime to them. Since just normal ship. 0:12:34.440 --> 0:12:38.160 And then because it is like it's like the Bronx 0:12:38.200 --> 0:12:42.120 being a place of hippen right birthplaces, right, Mount Vernon 0:12:42.200 --> 0:12:42.480 is like. 0:12:43.040 --> 0:12:44.319 Cousin his cousins. 0:12:44.400 --> 0:12:47.960 Yeah, so y'all had to have hip hop justice. 0:12:48.040 --> 0:12:49.720 You originally from the Bronx. 0:12:49.960 --> 0:12:50.160 Oh. 0:12:52.520 --> 0:12:55.000 You know, when I was young, I went to Bronx 0:12:55.120 --> 0:12:57.240 Room Park, not knowing what was doing on you know 0:12:57.280 --> 0:12:59.280 what I'm saying. All I know is I've seen a 0:12:59.280 --> 0:13:02.760 bunch of cool who was smoking, drinking and listening to 0:13:02.840 --> 0:13:03.240 hip hop. 0:13:03.400 --> 0:13:05.920 It sh had me. And then when I turned seven 0:13:06.000 --> 0:13:07.400 years old, I met James Brown. 0:13:07.640 --> 0:13:14.920 What wow, that's gonna change your cousin. 0:13:15.880 --> 0:13:19.960 Your cousin is my cousin of course, family, all right, 0:13:20.360 --> 0:13:23.280 bless some peace, bro. And you know he took me 0:13:23.360 --> 0:13:25.920 under his wing. And that's how I learned everything. That's 0:13:25.960 --> 0:13:29.920 how I met everybody before I even became who I was. 0:13:30.480 --> 0:13:32.840 I was Teddy Wiley, I was in the studio. 0:13:32.920 --> 0:13:33.440 How we team. 0:13:34.920 --> 0:13:38.440 Let's take it rimming this Soul with You, which is 0:13:38.520 --> 0:13:40.160 such an iconic song for an. 0:13:40.280 --> 0:13:45.400 Iconic song, but now that is about actual person, correct, 0:13:46.200 --> 0:13:47.000 Can we break that down? 0:13:47.040 --> 0:13:49.320 It's Troy right, It's on tour. 0:13:49.840 --> 0:13:54.040 Heavy Dena boys, you know him and canting plays road. 0:13:53.920 --> 0:13:57.040 Managers playing around, you know, we's always be on tour 0:13:57.120 --> 0:14:00.880 plane and they were playing with empty guards cancer throw them, 0:14:01.000 --> 0:14:03.240 throwing them, trying to hit each other and you know, 0:14:03.360 --> 0:14:06.920 never you know, mister steps when he was at the 0:14:07.000 --> 0:14:11.360 edge of the stage, I didn't know what and have 0:14:11.520 --> 0:14:13.600 called me and started to crying, and you know, the 0:14:13.640 --> 0:14:17.840 whole honey, all fucked up. Even today, to this day, 0:14:17.880 --> 0:14:21.880 I don't even know how I was able to listen 0:14:21.920 --> 0:14:23.640 to a record and make a beat because I was 0:14:23.640 --> 0:14:27.280 so destraught that but man, and the whole was he was. 0:14:27.320 --> 0:14:32.000 Infamous in the hood, but you know, legendary that I didn't, 0:14:32.600 --> 0:14:33.640 you know. 0:14:33.720 --> 0:14:35.880 And when I found the sample, you know, I was 0:14:35.920 --> 0:14:39.080 with Extra Pe when we was in Queen's and we 0:14:39.120 --> 0:14:40.840 were digging and I found the record, you know what 0:14:40.840 --> 0:14:43.640 I mean, and we you know, took it home, fucked 0:14:43.640 --> 0:14:47.680 with it, you know, and next thing, you know, I 0:14:47.720 --> 0:14:49.960 put you know, after the beat was made and everything 0:14:50.040 --> 0:14:51.120 like that, we got in the. 0:14:51.080 --> 0:14:54.640 Stuc came with the lyrics and it's like, but he 0:14:54.680 --> 0:14:57.400 didn't have the beat, like he already had the rhymes rope, 0:14:57.440 --> 0:15:00.720 but he needed a beat to match the rhymes. And 0:15:00.760 --> 0:15:02.200 that's very It was not. 0:15:02.240 --> 0:15:05.800 Easy to Yeah, that's magical for that to. 0:15:05.960 --> 0:15:09.000 So it melt it right and it was just like 0:15:09.080 --> 0:15:13.600 damn classic talked about his aunt and you know, did you. 0:15:13.640 --> 0:15:15.760 Know that was going to be as classic as it is? 0:15:15.800 --> 0:15:16.320 When you made? 0:15:16.360 --> 0:15:19.600 When I had Charlie Brown from me decisions. 0:15:20.760 --> 0:15:23.440 And he was there for the mixed up and we 0:15:23.760 --> 0:15:26.640 were just all that crying. I just let it out 0:15:26.720 --> 0:15:28.400 like I didn't even care if he, you know, who 0:15:28.520 --> 0:15:30.720 was around, because I was thinking about Troy. 0:15:31.320 --> 0:15:36.400 He started crying, and then the engineers started and I. 0:15:36.360 --> 0:15:39.280 Said, I think we got I think the day. 0:15:39.560 --> 0:15:41.920 You know. The only thing I don't like about that 0:15:42.000 --> 0:15:53.440 record is that wait, what what are you say is 0:15:53.480 --> 0:15:55.240 wrong about It's a lot of. 0:15:56.840 --> 0:15:58.760 So now I gotta take it to one of my 0:15:58.880 --> 0:16:10.360 favorite games, one of them the whole night mass appeal. 0:16:11.000 --> 0:16:21.120 What drugs was you smoking? That's the ruler era. Man. 0:16:23.920 --> 0:16:26.160 You know it's crazy because I mean everybody has the 0:16:26.280 --> 0:16:27.680 eras of getting lifted. 0:16:27.720 --> 0:16:29.560 I mean, now the pills they are, the young kids, 0:16:29.840 --> 0:16:31.080 they're crazy. That's not my thing. 0:16:31.160 --> 0:16:33.800 But I mean we all have ways of escaping and 0:16:33.920 --> 0:16:37.440 and uh, music and drugs and drinking and sex and 0:16:37.440 --> 0:16:40.240 all that sports. It has always been in a twine. 0:16:40.320 --> 0:16:42.920 But it's all about how strong your mind is or 0:16:43.000 --> 0:16:44.040 how weak your mind is. 0:16:44.080 --> 0:16:45.080 That I've always kept your. 0:16:45.040 --> 0:16:47.520 Grown mind to know how to turn the switch off 0:16:47.520 --> 0:16:49.080 and get back like manager properly. 0:16:49.240 --> 0:16:55.480 I'm glad, yeah you is. 0:16:55.560 --> 0:17:00.360 You know when I've heard that this happened. 0:17:01.600 --> 0:17:04.280 Me to that it was a good old day at 0:17:04.320 --> 0:17:06.640 ninety three into ninety four. That album came out ninety four, 0:17:06.680 --> 0:17:08.560 Folk Song came out ninety three. But I mean, though 0:17:08.640 --> 0:17:10.840 those were the good old days of just ye you know, 0:17:10.920 --> 0:17:12.879 you would torch before you go on the lab and 0:17:12.920 --> 0:17:15.359 start cooking something off and and and even with the 0:17:15.359 --> 0:17:17.080 one with that, I mean, my mind approach is still 0:17:17.119 --> 0:17:17.480 the same. 0:17:17.880 --> 0:17:20.000 So thank Goodness said that it is because I'm still 0:17:20.040 --> 0:17:22.200 active even if it is old. Does the work is 0:17:22.200 --> 0:17:22.720 still coming. 0:17:22.960 --> 0:17:25.440 We're still active, which we still are addicted to making 0:17:25.520 --> 0:17:29.160 beats and performing in DJing. We're like we're battling, Yeah, battle, 0:17:29.359 --> 0:17:32.159 you know what I'm saying. But Master Hill was a wizard, 0:17:32.400 --> 0:17:34.720 was a We was actually making it as a goof 0:17:35.200 --> 0:17:38.880 to radio because we wasn't getting regular rotations on radio 0:17:38.960 --> 0:17:39.880 as a hip hop group. 0:17:40.119 --> 0:17:41.880 But like who always. 0:17:41.560 --> 0:17:44.480 Said, we got platinum respect, So they came out the 0:17:44.520 --> 0:17:47.240 platinum artists are loving us, but we can't sell some 0:17:47.440 --> 0:17:47.960 on records. 0:17:48.000 --> 0:17:51.040 But everybody that that's platinum and selling millions of Love 0:17:51.080 --> 0:17:51.679 Gang Stars. 0:17:51.800 --> 0:17:54.639 We were like, let's make a radio making fun of radio, 0:17:55.240 --> 0:17:56.680 and I said, I want to make something that sounds 0:17:56.720 --> 0:17:58.159 like you're on the elevator going here. 0:18:00.119 --> 0:18:02.040 That was my mind stage. 0:18:02.240 --> 0:18:04.119 I wanted to make the records, you know, you know 0:18:04.160 --> 0:18:06.000 he elevators crazy. 0:18:07.119 --> 0:18:08.399 I'm thinking about your logic. 0:18:08.960 --> 0:18:15.520 Found the record that's closest to It's like, yeah, closest. 0:18:15.080 --> 0:18:16.680 To what That's what it is. There's a lot of 0:18:16.720 --> 0:18:17.400 times I. 0:18:17.400 --> 0:18:19.960 Pre hear the song and I'm looking for the stuff 0:18:19.960 --> 0:18:21.439 that matches my what I'm looking for. 0:18:21.520 --> 0:18:23.680 That's why the drums usually come first. 0:18:23.680 --> 0:18:26.399 But you know, because it's like, you know what it's 0:18:26.400 --> 0:18:28.719 going whatnots on this one. I'm going in pizza on 0:18:28.720 --> 0:18:31.000 this one, going sub on this one. You know, we 0:18:31.040 --> 0:18:32.320 can't already know where. 0:18:32.160 --> 0:18:32.639 We're gonna go. 0:18:33.440 --> 0:18:39.800 Talk got In the early days of my gang Start career, 0:18:40.720 --> 0:18:42.440 there's three people that really taught. 0:18:42.160 --> 0:18:44.800 Me how to get to the level, actually four of 0:18:44.920 --> 0:18:47.720 the level that where I should now I'll take anybody on. 0:18:47.800 --> 0:18:52.200 I'll Balanti. He taught me how to feel to show biz. 0:18:53.320 --> 0:18:55.880 D I t C from shows A taught me thinking 0:18:55.880 --> 0:18:58.200 about how to chop men. I learned how shot beat 0:18:58.240 --> 0:19:01.159 some show biz and then lost professor just showed me 0:19:01.440 --> 0:19:02.080 crazy tricks. 0:19:02.119 --> 0:19:04.199 That used to come to Miles and Hill with us 0:19:04.359 --> 0:19:06.639 because we we met me to hers and we used 0:19:06.640 --> 0:19:08.880 to go to Ms Mackenzie's house. Who's who's the DJs? 0:19:09.200 --> 0:19:12.280 The mom shirt cutting k scratch, I mean Kate cutting 0:19:12.359 --> 0:19:13.680 her scratch, So we used to go to the house. 0:19:13.720 --> 0:19:16.479 So I was around Large Pete a lot, and they 0:19:16.480 --> 0:19:17.080 were way more. 0:19:17.000 --> 0:19:19.159 Advanced on the d programming front from me. 0:19:19.240 --> 0:19:21.399 We all way into the records and the sampling, but 0:19:21.600 --> 0:19:24.120 my skill didn't really get to a point until around 0:19:24.160 --> 0:19:24.680 ninety two. 0:19:25.320 --> 0:19:25.880 You know what I'm saying. 0:19:25.920 --> 0:19:28.879 When I started working on boom Bat with KRS because 0:19:29.920 --> 0:19:35.040 original rap, not that that song, but the majority of 0:19:35.200 --> 0:19:42.200 from the Mortal out of Here Mortal Carriers want attacks 0:19:42.600 --> 0:19:43.120 and you didn't. 0:19:43.160 --> 0:19:47.520 We still the lawn too. You killed that album. You killed. 0:19:51.000 --> 0:19:54.080 It was just a laugh at radio for not playing us. 0:19:54.240 --> 0:19:56.159 And then its going to be our biggest in that. 0:19:57.840 --> 0:20:00.639 Crazy you know, you know, you know what else I 0:20:00.680 --> 0:20:02.879 gotta I gotta go straight into it. I'm so sorry. 0:20:04.040 --> 0:20:08.080 Stick up the kids. That was a true story, just 0:20:08.160 --> 0:20:10.280 to get a rep. We just got idea. 0:20:11.080 --> 0:20:12.280 We were living in the Bronx on one of the 0:20:12.440 --> 0:20:14.000 third Street. I moved out of East New York and 0:20:14.119 --> 0:20:16.520 moved I was living in Yeah, we moved to the 0:20:16.560 --> 0:20:20.240 Bronx one of the third Street. That's how I met That's. 0:20:19.320 --> 0:20:20.800 How I met that. 0:20:21.480 --> 0:20:24.240 That's how I fancy from the n Y Jesus, That's 0:20:24.280 --> 0:20:29.720 how met Smiley together town Nutcracker, Cracker. I lived on 0:20:29.760 --> 0:20:32.040 one of the third and Andrews and they all they 0:20:32.119 --> 0:20:33.440 all lived down the hill on Andrews. 0:20:33.720 --> 0:20:34.280 Was in the hood. 0:20:34.480 --> 0:20:43.840 Yeah, middle was We got our first check. I was 0:20:44.000 --> 0:20:47.080 moving into and with brand from our sellers. Uh he 0:20:47.520 --> 0:20:50.560 he was about to be the music director for the 0:20:50.640 --> 0:20:53.600 Tonight Show with jay Leno. So he his wife and 0:20:53.640 --> 0:20:55.800 his son was still still living there before they moved 0:20:55.800 --> 0:20:57.680 down a they was, you know, so they were kind 0:20:57.680 --> 0:20:59.800 of back and forth. So at the time before he 0:20:59.880 --> 0:21:02.320 made Offishley moved he we all moved in together. So 0:21:02.400 --> 0:21:04.800 now Brandford, his wife, his son, and me and gul 0:21:05.119 --> 0:21:07.480 all living together on three seventy four Washington and Brooklyn. 0:21:07.560 --> 0:21:08.480 So we moved back to Brooklyn. 0:21:08.960 --> 0:21:11.840 We both bought our first brand new cars. And you know, 0:21:11.880 --> 0:21:14.280 I had had a whip already, but I'm up the 0:21:14.359 --> 0:21:18.320 m PV. The car over the time, for sure, but 0:21:18.440 --> 0:21:23.359 it was very famous every yeah, the car videos. One 0:21:23.359 --> 0:21:26.240 of the minds a Jackie Boy car because it was 0:21:26.320 --> 0:21:28.880 the sound system. Everybody knew me for him around the way. 0:21:29.480 --> 0:21:32.800 So when when that happened, Guru by a four Runner. 0:21:32.800 --> 0:21:34.560 These werein the four Runners new. 0:21:34.560 --> 0:21:35.480 Style body style. 0:21:36.800 --> 0:21:38.760 Grew got into a problem with some dudes in Brooklyn 0:21:39.200 --> 0:21:43.560 and uh he yeah, and then and they took the car. 0:21:44.040 --> 0:21:46.560 They took Tom Tom passed when looking at the cats, 0:21:46.600 --> 0:21:48.000 looking at the cats, couldn't find a car. 0:21:48.640 --> 0:21:53.159 One day we just poured GPS. Yeah, one day we're. 0:21:53.040 --> 0:21:57.159 Moving around, we see the car start chasing after the 0:21:57.240 --> 0:22:01.080 guy going after him his high speed chase. Cops see 0:22:01.240 --> 0:22:03.920 us start chasing too, going after him. He's like, that's 0:22:03.920 --> 0:22:05.800 our car, that's our car. Because they want to pull 0:22:05.880 --> 0:22:08.600 us over. They go after the car that he keeps 0:22:08.640 --> 0:22:12.920 on driving. He the driver hits an ice cream truck 0:22:13.040 --> 0:22:13.719 and dies. 0:22:13.920 --> 0:22:15.920 Oh ship, yeah yeah. 0:22:16.280 --> 0:22:19.359 And it's crazy because Grew had a picture of the 0:22:19.440 --> 0:22:20.879 day he got the car, and he's in front of 0:22:20.920 --> 0:22:21.440 it going. 0:22:21.960 --> 0:22:23.200 Like like, yeah, I got my car. 0:22:23.840 --> 0:22:25.480 Were going to the precinct where they brought the car 0:22:25.520 --> 0:22:27.320 and it was all switched in and everything from the 0:22:27.560 --> 0:22:28.680 from the crash and it was all. 0:22:28.600 --> 0:22:30.280 Switched up and grew, So I got to take a 0:22:30.320 --> 0:22:36.840 picture body's standing by going before I sold. 0:22:37.040 --> 0:22:39.600 He said, I'm writing a song about this, and we 0:22:39.680 --> 0:22:41.920 wrote the song with the and see the album only 0:22:41.960 --> 0:22:44.080 has two verses. When we came up with the video 0:22:44.160 --> 0:22:45.840 with fab for Freddy and did that, he said, we 0:22:45.920 --> 0:22:49.800 need that. That's me swatching there there hook, I mean 0:22:49.840 --> 0:22:52.200 their voice on Funky for You. 0:22:53.000 --> 0:22:55.720 Oh yeah, it's so so fab fire. 0:22:55.720 --> 0:22:58.680 Freddy said we need a closing way of the video, 0:22:58.760 --> 0:23:00.760 and being it that the guy did die in the end, 0:23:01.440 --> 0:23:03.359 he said, we gotta do a third versal. Guru or 0:23:03.400 --> 0:23:05.280 the third verse, and that's why the twelve minutes has 0:23:05.320 --> 0:23:07.320 a diffinite type of a bounce, and it's been re 0:23:07.480 --> 0:23:09.000 recorded three. 0:23:08.920 --> 0:23:10.960 Verses nineteen ninety. 0:23:11.119 --> 0:23:13.560 So yeah, isn't that crazy that we actually found a 0:23:13.640 --> 0:23:16.560 dude to took off after the cops go after after us, 0:23:16.640 --> 0:23:18.359 and once we say, you know, we're trying to get 0:23:18.359 --> 0:23:21.880 our car back, and the dude running and crashed karm 0:23:21.960 --> 0:23:23.400 up for your ice cream truck. 0:23:23.880 --> 0:23:25.520 That's why you gotta love game star. 0:23:25.800 --> 0:23:27.440 This is why you got it a love true star. 0:23:27.600 --> 0:23:35.119 You got it now, Pete, the world is sure. I 0:23:35.280 --> 0:23:37.320 was hating that now. 0:23:39.840 --> 0:23:42.240 That means I was instilled though when he heard the beat. 0:23:42.119 --> 0:23:44.920 Ship Hold on, hold that, hold up on a second, 0:23:44.920 --> 0:23:50.000 because I want to say, arguably might be my favorite 0:23:50.040 --> 0:23:52.320 record on him my back is my favorite album of 0:23:52.400 --> 0:23:52.760 all time. 0:23:52.800 --> 0:23:55.520 Wow in mind too. Not because I'm on it. It 0:23:55.520 --> 0:23:57.440 would have been my favorite even. 0:23:57.240 --> 0:23:58.760 If I ain't on it at all. 0:24:00.160 --> 0:24:01.320 I'm glad I was made. 0:24:02.320 --> 0:24:06.280 I just want you describe he was there. He was 0:24:06.359 --> 0:24:10.440 there just to watch, all right. So now you meet 0:24:10.480 --> 0:24:14.240 this kid that lost professor. Yes, it brings you to them, Yes, 0:24:14.359 --> 0:24:15.600 and then they say they want you to work on. 0:24:15.720 --> 0:24:16.680 Came up to mom vernon. 0:24:16.880 --> 0:24:19.600 Okay, And there's a story where I had not waiting. 0:24:19.960 --> 0:24:22.879 I didn't even realize. I don't even remember. He said that. 0:24:23.000 --> 0:24:25.280 I was in the car talking to a girl and 0:24:25.440 --> 0:24:26.119 he was behind me. 0:24:26.200 --> 0:24:28.760 But you know, if it's people behind me to get out, 0:24:30.800 --> 0:24:33.520 you know what I mean. But he waited. He just 0:24:33.560 --> 0:24:35.280 stood in the car shot. 0:24:37.080 --> 0:24:40.399 I'm still we got it together. We got downstairs right, 0:24:41.000 --> 0:24:43.359 going through a couple of as SPEK twelve hundred this right, 0:24:44.200 --> 0:24:47.639 the first three, the second one I discome put in. 0:24:48.440 --> 0:24:51.040 When I played it, he just said, oh wait, wait, wait, wait, 0:24:51.040 --> 0:24:55.760 wait a minute, and he just stood there. I was like, okay, that. 0:24:55.880 --> 0:24:56.600 Means he likes it. 0:24:57.280 --> 0:24:59.520 I just knew it, you know, And this is the 0:24:59.560 --> 0:25:01.240 world is you? Was he saying, He's like, you want 0:25:01.240 --> 0:25:01.600 to single? 0:25:01.840 --> 0:25:07.720 I want you to do the whole well, you know, 0:25:08.680 --> 0:25:12.000 got some hip hop ship. And then we got in 0:25:12.040 --> 0:25:14.919 the studio, went to Battery. That's where we did it, you. 0:25:14.920 --> 0:25:19.000 Know, bat that's our job O record. I watched later 0:25:19.080 --> 0:25:20.120 Scratches one tape. 0:25:20.160 --> 0:25:23.840 Premo came in there and I did the Scratches take. 0:25:24.720 --> 0:25:26.159 I think I was the quietest I've ever been to 0:25:27.119 --> 0:25:30.040 this like this looking and I was just like, but 0:25:30.160 --> 0:25:32.600 the world don't know. Does the world know? Who knows? 0:25:32.720 --> 0:25:32.879 Is like? 0:25:34.760 --> 0:25:34.960 Yeah? 0:25:35.000 --> 0:25:39.879 Back again? Time was half time? Okay, what about back 0:25:39.880 --> 0:25:43.960 to the grill again? Was he back to the grille before? Yeah? Yeah, 0:25:45.560 --> 0:25:48.280 building at this point right, so yeah, the buzz already 0:25:48.320 --> 0:25:50.200 this was crashed. 0:25:49.840 --> 0:25:53.560 Through mad because super was out when it was done 0:25:53.640 --> 0:25:56.760 and finished, man, man. 0:25:58.160 --> 0:26:02.480 Like, that's done. His three join us on. 0:26:03.280 --> 0:26:07.879 Shot and half three at the time that all had represented, 0:26:08.320 --> 0:26:10.200 but not the one on the album. The one is 0:26:10.240 --> 0:26:11.600 on the allmatic is a remix? 0:26:12.240 --> 0:26:14.119 What not the one on the single? 0:26:14.240 --> 0:26:15.680 No, just the one that's the one is on the 0:26:15.680 --> 0:26:18.240 album period. The one is on the album period is 0:26:18.280 --> 0:26:19.840 the remix? I had the baseline? 0:26:20.000 --> 0:26:26.520 Yo, hold on, what's the original represent? I don't have 0:26:26.600 --> 0:26:27.479 to keep you it up there? 0:26:29.040 --> 0:26:29.240 Do that? 0:26:31.080 --> 0:26:34.160 Yeah, but I can't believe I'm I'm crazy. I make 0:26:34.240 --> 0:26:36.879 that story because I still can't believe. What is this? 0:26:37.560 --> 0:26:37.880 This again? 0:26:38.000 --> 0:26:42.680 We celebrate over twenty five million, twenty being congratulated by yeah, man. 0:26:44.480 --> 0:26:50.680 Around, that's another round. I knew I wanted another flack. 0:26:50.760 --> 0:26:52.600 I just didn't know I was gonna get a podcast. 0:26:53.680 --> 0:26:58.080 What hip hop? You the fact that you know? 0:26:58.640 --> 0:27:01.520 I don't know if you guys know, we only interview legends, 0:27:01.680 --> 0:27:04.560 not because we don't have love for the new generation, 0:27:04.640 --> 0:27:05.159 because we do. 0:27:05.800 --> 0:27:08.240 But I feel like in hip hop, hip hop is 0:27:08.280 --> 0:27:11.480 the only place that you get ten years in, you 0:27:11.600 --> 0:27:13.240 get fifteen years in and they say you. 0:27:13.359 --> 0:27:17.359 Old, and they're right, we're all old older, but we 0:27:17.520 --> 0:27:18.680 have old Thomas music. 0:27:19.160 --> 0:27:22.560 But we are true to what we do, absolutely believe 0:27:22.600 --> 0:27:23.320 in refuge. 0:27:23.760 --> 0:27:26.080 So I just want to keep the interviewing legends and 0:27:26.480 --> 0:27:29.400 for us to have a twenty five million flack congratulations, 0:27:29.520 --> 0:27:32.119 congratulations then and I hate you. 0:27:32.960 --> 0:27:37.320 Why would he knew he had? When did you get 0:27:37.359 --> 0:27:38.040 the bro? 0:27:38.400 --> 0:27:38.640 Listen? 0:27:38.760 --> 0:27:38.920 Man? 0:27:39.240 --> 0:27:42.119 Yeah, like I didn't know? 0:27:43.720 --> 0:27:47.159 And then big up r big up the sidebar my 0:27:47.280 --> 0:27:53.840 boy Raoul J Heron DJ Heron definitely, man, you know 0:27:53.920 --> 0:27:55.320 what I got. You always got a big up a 0:27:55.359 --> 0:27:58.080 Heron Because if you go to a Hera party, you 0:27:58.280 --> 0:28:00.320 coming around, it's real pop. 0:28:00.840 --> 0:28:02.800 The bitch is going to be there with the sneaker 0:28:02.840 --> 0:28:06.040 scoff with the that's real hip hop. When the chicks 0:28:06.080 --> 0:28:09.119 got their hells on, that's not hip hop. Like you 0:28:09.200 --> 0:28:12.600 got your sneakers. Gotta be dirty to a certain extent, 0:28:12.960 --> 0:28:14.320 you know what to be real hip hop? 0:28:20.520 --> 0:28:20.680 Now? 0:28:21.440 --> 0:28:25.080 So you do the world as your Yes, you said 0:28:25.200 --> 0:28:27.560 after you did the record, you was just happy for him, 0:28:27.760 --> 0:28:28.240 very happy. 0:28:28.440 --> 0:28:31.840 But did you did you had the foresight to think 0:28:31.920 --> 0:28:35.720 that this guy would actually like you know, this guy. 0:28:37.760 --> 0:28:38.240 Was gonna blow. 0:28:39.400 --> 0:28:41.239 There was a lot of anticipation when you guys were 0:28:41.280 --> 0:28:42.080 working on the project. 0:28:43.120 --> 0:28:43.440 The game. 0:28:44.440 --> 0:28:48.560 It was like rock him again, right, Yeah, he stood 0:28:48.600 --> 0:28:51.240 in his own light, but he was in poppy by. 0:28:51.160 --> 0:28:53.160 The WHOI rapped the rock? 0:28:53.600 --> 0:28:56.400 No question, you know question? But was open? 0:28:56.520 --> 0:28:58.120 Yeah? That was that was That was one. 0:28:58.720 --> 0:28:59.280 This was new. 0:29:00.080 --> 0:29:03.760 I've been coming and we were confident and he was confident. 0:29:03.800 --> 0:29:05.240 And I was happening. 0:29:05.280 --> 0:29:06.840 Were there a lot of records on that project that 0:29:07.160 --> 0:29:08.480 didn't make the project that you guys are? 0:29:09.240 --> 0:29:11.800 Was that the only beat you made? Oh so it 0:29:11.880 --> 0:29:15.160 was one and one hit her quit? Now the repe 0:29:15.360 --> 0:29:19.320 that go in what was blowing away from? 0:29:20.080 --> 0:29:25.960 And then you tip at the remixed you talk about okay, yeah, yeah, 0:29:26.080 --> 0:29:28.080 that remixes had me all upset. 0:29:28.280 --> 0:29:34.120 Wait oh wait, wait wait your competition like in a 0:29:34.160 --> 0:29:35.920 good way, like damn. 0:29:36.000 --> 0:29:37.800 Should I should have just did a quick remix? 0:29:40.360 --> 0:29:44.640 You know, but they're both amazing. Yeah, and it's totally different, 0:29:44.880 --> 0:29:46.240 you know, different approaches. 0:29:46.440 --> 0:29:49.160 His Town's amazing. Q tip shout out to him. 0:29:49.280 --> 0:29:54.200 I saw brother, So now you did, you said? Three 0:29:54.320 --> 0:29:58.000 joints represented by Memory Lane in New York State of Mind, 0:29:58.680 --> 0:30:02.720 Memory Lane, I don't remembory, ain't member Lane, bemer Lane 0:30:02.840 --> 0:30:05.080 Man Me and me and NAS had a debate on 0:30:05.160 --> 0:30:07.200 that one because I actually didn't like that one. This 0:30:07.400 --> 0:30:09.640 is prime. This is the crazy way. I mean. I've 0:30:09.640 --> 0:30:12.120 been in the studio with Free Vow. Yo, you're really 0:30:12.200 --> 0:30:14.680 a perfectionist, yo, because I do it on the spot. Yo, 0:30:14.760 --> 0:30:16.120 you really are perfected. 0:30:16.280 --> 0:30:16.400 Yo. 0:30:16.520 --> 0:30:19.800 I'm winning six times. Get a beat right? And he 0:30:19.880 --> 0:30:22.080 says he came to me. He came to me and said, 0:30:22.400 --> 0:30:27.920 what's your rom Nikola? I said, drop, I don't believe 0:30:27.960 --> 0:30:32.600 my bug never made That's an incredible Then you made 0:30:32.720 --> 0:30:37.280 the beat in two fucking seconds, flack. Is that No, 0:30:37.600 --> 0:30:39.200 that's not a big records when I performed. 0:30:40.040 --> 0:30:42.320 But the thing about it is is that what you 0:30:42.520 --> 0:30:44.720 have to you have to hear the voters first time, 0:30:44.800 --> 0:30:48.200 because now, but what all particular. 0:30:50.080 --> 0:30:53.840 Is one of the best hip hop as so much definite, 0:30:53.880 --> 0:30:57.000 so much from understand. I was on the War Report 0:30:57.280 --> 0:31:00.520 and now you got me on another and and allly 0:31:00.600 --> 0:31:02.920 that this is the year reunion that merged as a 0:31:03.000 --> 0:31:06.080 solo artist too, I mean your first, your first no 0:31:07.160 --> 0:31:10.160 sick is sick thinking, I. 0:31:10.200 --> 0:31:12.280 Mean like that, like to this day. 0:31:13.320 --> 0:31:15.640 I'm sorry, so I want to get Backti bating. What 0:31:15.920 --> 0:31:20.400 happened was we wanted a premo be so bad right everybody, 0:31:20.440 --> 0:31:24.880 and for some reason our schedules was messed up. And 0:31:24.960 --> 0:31:26.440 then we went to D and D. We went to 0:31:26.560 --> 0:31:30.000 D and D and I felt like he needed something 0:31:30.120 --> 0:31:32.720 from us and we just kept wasn't giving it to you? 0:31:33.360 --> 0:31:37.480 And then you just remember it was the sixth section. 0:31:37.640 --> 0:31:38.760 You said he's after going and. 0:31:39.000 --> 0:31:43.440 And screened on it and I was like yo, and 0:31:43.720 --> 0:31:45.840 I'm just saying, oh god too. And I was like, yo, 0:31:46.160 --> 0:31:51.840 just meet me this, you know, I know he's on 0:31:53.080 --> 0:31:55.840 and he was like yo, mane like you know, break 0:31:57.360 --> 0:32:00.760 and in that day and you can't even like thirty. 0:32:01.040 --> 0:32:09.040 I'm sorry, I'm sorry, sorry the crazy He said, what's 0:32:09.120 --> 0:32:10.080 your opening line? 0:32:10.240 --> 0:32:12.560 And I said that so you had that rhyme already. 0:32:12.960 --> 0:32:15.240 I had the rhyme already. I just was waiting for 0:32:15.360 --> 0:32:18.040 something perfect to go because that fit perfectly. I said 0:32:18.080 --> 0:32:19.840 it and he said say it again. 0:32:21.440 --> 0:32:27.120 He meant. I was like, right, my mind. 0:32:27.440 --> 0:32:27.800 I was like. 0:32:30.120 --> 0:32:31.200 About to be at the television. 0:32:31.560 --> 0:32:34.360 Yeah, my turntable set up on a big old nineteen 0:32:34.400 --> 0:32:38.000 seventies television with the with the wood never with the. 0:32:38.000 --> 0:32:40.400 Record player on the twos, and I got the turntable 0:32:40.440 --> 0:32:41.160 in the mix on there. 0:32:41.200 --> 0:32:43.720 Capone sat right there and going, yo, I still can't 0:32:43.760 --> 0:32:47.320 believe I got a turntable on a television. 0:32:47.080 --> 0:32:49.800 Seven round there, And that's what he said. 0:32:50.040 --> 0:32:54.720 He said with the fifteen fan, I mean, with the panasonics, 0:32:54.800 --> 0:32:57.000 with everybody in the hood and the projects have a radio. 0:32:57.440 --> 0:32:59.960 What we got to do right now, Premo is describe 0:33:00.160 --> 0:33:05.440 D and D Studios because that's like I'm pacle hip hop. 0:33:06.080 --> 0:33:10.640 The studios was actually not nowhere neighborhood, nah, but it 0:33:10.720 --> 0:33:11.640 was motherfucker. 0:33:11.640 --> 0:33:14.400 It was block though in the city. But once you 0:33:14.520 --> 0:33:16.360 get into dn D, you in the project. 0:33:17.280 --> 0:33:18.800 But that was at that was. 0:33:19.040 --> 0:33:21.720 That was a heroin block. Even when we started working 0:33:21.760 --> 0:33:24.440 there in ninety two, that was a heroin block. 0:33:24.760 --> 0:33:28.960 So during that time, a renovant private before y'all started coming, 0:33:29.000 --> 0:33:31.920 it was drug central and there was no lights, so 0:33:32.080 --> 0:33:34.680 it was very dark. They ran a newspaper right across 0:33:34.720 --> 0:33:36.920 the street, so we used always beat with them. And 0:33:37.200 --> 0:33:39.280 it was a lot of fighting and threats and and 0:33:39.440 --> 0:33:41.440 I'll go get my gun and all this crazy stuff 0:33:41.480 --> 0:33:44.320 back then, and and it was just I remember Heavy 0:33:44.360 --> 0:33:47.000 Diglis who came out and said, do we really got 0:33:47.120 --> 0:33:48.160 to finish the sound here? 0:33:49.280 --> 0:33:52.320 But you demanded the people give everything that. 0:33:53.880 --> 0:33:54.960 So have. 0:33:55.160 --> 0:33:56.760 I had to go. I went. I went and went 0:33:56.800 --> 0:33:58.600 over to Hip Factory to finished working for them. And 0:33:58.680 --> 0:34:01.400 he was like, Yo, this is Ryaney frame. And I 0:34:01.520 --> 0:34:02.800 was like, Yo, that's how I do it. 0:34:03.480 --> 0:34:07.280 You had a machine that had Philly cigars and what 0:34:07.480 --> 0:34:10.160 is it called the machine machine? 0:34:10.200 --> 0:34:17.200 The Vendom machine and Philly Did you have callers in 0:34:17.239 --> 0:34:19.360 there as well? I think you'd call it. 0:34:20.400 --> 0:34:22.279 It was kind It was. 0:34:23.760 --> 0:34:25.919 The way the dude we had to restock at least 0:34:25.960 --> 0:34:27.960 every week what. 0:34:29.840 --> 0:34:30.680 The philis were being. 0:34:31.040 --> 0:34:31.840 Know, I kid you not. 0:34:32.200 --> 0:34:33.520 I used to be like, because you know, every time 0:34:33.600 --> 0:34:36.480 we used to go to the studio, we always stopping cigars. 0:34:36.719 --> 0:34:39.440 But we went to DNNG and we never stopped. We 0:34:39.520 --> 0:34:41.600 said just go straight there. It was a little bit 0:34:41.760 --> 0:34:50.440 like more expensive, but it was like working. Recently, Pete 0:34:51.000 --> 0:34:54.080 Kanye and jay Z just hired you. 0:34:54.719 --> 0:34:58.360 To do a joint Describe what what was that like 0:34:58.719 --> 0:35:01.640 going on being black scene. Okay, I'm sorry I didn't. 0:35:07.360 --> 0:35:10.279 So he was being a kid in the candy store 0:35:10.320 --> 0:35:13.600 with me. Kanye gotten this new whip brand, new whip tags, 0:35:13.640 --> 0:35:17.520 doing me and him kid cutting in Hawaii's burning the 0:35:17.680 --> 0:35:20.960 road from zero to sixty in less than three seconds. 0:35:22.120 --> 0:35:26.240 That's that's how hot that got pulled over, Oh police, 0:35:26.920 --> 0:35:28.640 because he's Kanye. 0:35:29.280 --> 0:35:34.200 But now when he gives you that call, because at 0:35:34.239 --> 0:35:36.319 the end of the day, you represent the purest form 0:35:36.360 --> 0:35:39.000 of hip hop. So when you get a call from Kanye, 0:35:39.160 --> 0:35:40.200 what is your first reaction. 0:35:40.960 --> 0:35:42.920 I'm just going to bring all my knowledge around. 0:35:43.520 --> 0:35:46.320 And when I got there, he actually impressed me with 0:35:46.480 --> 0:35:49.160 what he knew what I'm saying and from my interluce 0:35:49.280 --> 0:35:51.359 to just like music in general. 0:35:52.040 --> 0:35:55.040 And how he respects him. So I knew he was 0:35:55.080 --> 0:35:56.359 on to something good from the start. 0:35:56.840 --> 0:35:59.399 So I started helping him out like run away all 0:35:59.480 --> 0:36:04.760 asking in the bathroom, helping him out doing little beats, 0:36:05.800 --> 0:36:08.759 you know, you know, just hitting it popping. But when 0:36:08.800 --> 0:36:11.640 we got together and did the joy, I didn't know 0:36:11.760 --> 0:36:15.440 jay Z was gonna be on. My engineer at the 0:36:15.520 --> 0:36:21.000 time was young girl, so young at the time at 0:36:21.040 --> 0:36:23.840 that time, So I was working with him, and you know, 0:36:24.400 --> 0:36:27.279 he called me and he said, Yo, listen to this 0:36:28.080 --> 0:36:31.480 and I was driving at the time, and he needs 0:36:31.520 --> 0:36:33.480 some boy scout on there and that was familiar to me. 0:36:36.440 --> 0:36:43.120 Pulled over her son who he's like, listen, listen. He 0:36:43.239 --> 0:36:47.080 played it against and I had to do that. Is 0:36:47.120 --> 0:36:54.080 that jay Z finally get something together and finally he 0:36:54.280 --> 0:36:56.719 finally gets on the feat and it happened through Kanye, So. 0:37:00.960 --> 0:37:03.120 The racket drive real good. 0:37:03.719 --> 0:37:06.000 I was happy for that, even though Primon was already 0:37:06.320 --> 0:37:09.319 you know, deep into jay Z music. 0:37:09.640 --> 0:37:17.160 Let's make now premon you were actually on reason moved out. 0:37:18.520 --> 0:37:21.240 A lot of us done to D and D. That's correct, 0:37:21.400 --> 0:37:22.239 credits say D and D. 0:37:22.440 --> 0:37:25.200 So now this kid comes from now you already worked 0:37:25.200 --> 0:37:31.680 with NAS, albums already outre you already crowned the top producer. 0:37:32.080 --> 0:37:35.200 But now this guy comes to you. He got some Brad, 0:37:36.239 --> 0:37:38.439 But I know you. You don't give a fuck about Brad. 0:37:38.560 --> 0:37:41.800 I know you, And did you know him from original flavor? 0:37:42.080 --> 0:37:45.240 I know before that before I knew Jay, probably about 0:37:45.320 --> 0:37:48.759 eighty seven because jazz O was on your mind. And 0:37:49.080 --> 0:37:51.120 even when we got signed to your mind, which was 0:37:51.160 --> 0:37:54.520 through Christmas the same distribution, Jay was Silver would always 0:37:54.520 --> 0:37:57.759 come up there with Jazz. Oh so, anytime Jazz would 0:37:57.760 --> 0:37:59.720 show up to any club or whatever, Jay was always 0:37:59.719 --> 0:38:00.000 with him. 0:38:00.080 --> 0:38:02.560 And back then Jay had the big long lukie case 0:38:02.920 --> 0:38:07.439 were go get squashed with. Yeah, we were talking about 0:38:07.480 --> 0:38:16.279 that drink chances squash And uh so, being he comes 0:38:16.320 --> 0:38:17.879 to you, what does he say to you? He says, 0:38:18.120 --> 0:38:20.400 pream because you've seen him in the industry. 0:38:20.680 --> 0:38:24.280 Yeah, and one thing about cream cream don't give everybody 0:38:24.320 --> 0:38:27.200 a beat. Now, you got to prove yourself as a 0:38:27.440 --> 0:38:31.520 real MC to get a beat. So what did jay 0:38:31.600 --> 0:38:33.040 Z do that you said? 0:38:33.080 --> 0:38:35.600 I'm well, even when it got to the point of 0:38:36.160 --> 0:38:37.640 him hanging with the original flavor. 0:38:37.680 --> 0:38:39.279 But that's when I was selling the Bronx and each 0:38:39.280 --> 0:38:43.120 other live down the block Ski so that down university 0:38:43.160 --> 0:38:45.720 down there, down the other way, down the hill, familiar 0:38:45.760 --> 0:38:48.440 from where we were. Uh you know, he goes uphill 0:38:48.480 --> 0:38:50.839 down everything, down the hill, up the hill were they were, 0:38:50.880 --> 0:38:53.520 down the hill from from where I was. And uh so, 0:38:55.320 --> 0:38:59.160 being a new j already, it's crazy because Big l 0:38:59.800 --> 0:39:03.120 Well was already saying, yo, you know if you notice 0:39:03.120 --> 0:39:05.360 a big l with with with Jay a lot, but 0:39:05.440 --> 0:39:09.960 also Ja managed right, Yeah, Yeah, they were they were 0:39:10.200 --> 0:39:12.319 merging into doing some work, which is how the rocket 0:39:12.320 --> 0:39:14.399 fellas situation was about to happen. 0:39:14.480 --> 0:39:18.160 But but I knew Jay also aside from the jazz 0:39:18.239 --> 0:39:19.160 oh winning through King. 0:39:19.760 --> 0:39:23.040 So you see him with Caine, mister misters from l 0:39:23.120 --> 0:39:27.680 G projects. Yeah, and then Missus moved in. 0:39:27.800 --> 0:39:29.799 I think it was just on at somebody's house right now, 0:39:29.840 --> 0:39:41.360 people in your own come on, it's a family. We 0:39:41.440 --> 0:39:42.120 spread love. 0:39:46.520 --> 0:39:47.200 Getting my job. 0:39:49.440 --> 0:39:51.759 People there are about the hot contact because I've seen 0:39:51.800 --> 0:39:55.239 people go and I'm like, hey, you know. 0:39:55.840 --> 0:39:57.320 You know you told me to and I want you 0:39:57.360 --> 0:39:58.400 to finish your story please. 0:39:59.080 --> 0:40:02.279 Fans all right, but I was. 0:40:02.360 --> 0:40:07.120 Actually drinking with Joe Pesty one night. He us right now, 0:40:09.600 --> 0:40:09.959 you did. 0:40:16.960 --> 0:40:18.279 Know it was. 0:40:20.680 --> 0:40:24.799 The fans like he would not let me take a shot. 0:40:24.840 --> 0:40:27.080 But I look at and this is old school because 0:40:27.800 --> 0:40:32.239 in the nineties, so everybody else from Queens moved to 0:40:32.320 --> 0:40:35.200 Long Island. I was the only asshole to move to 0:40:35.320 --> 0:40:38.120 Jersey and so I was, you know, I was amongst 0:40:38.160 --> 0:40:40.000 you know there for some reason. 0:40:40.040 --> 0:40:42.040 I don't know why, but I always moved next to 0:40:42.080 --> 0:40:44.000 the tire in my field. I'm sorry, I don't know, 0:40:44.440 --> 0:40:49.000 but it's always something I live. You are looking at 0:40:49.040 --> 0:40:52.480 the queens rear ready. 0:40:52.800 --> 0:40:59.839 I was going, oh yeah, bunch, I always with hard 0:41:00.080 --> 0:41:03.399 up Italians and and they just went and I say, 0:41:03.560 --> 0:41:05.839 why why I gotta look out the eye? They said, 0:41:05.920 --> 0:41:08.040 because in the mafia, if a person can't look at 0:41:08.040 --> 0:41:09.600 you the eye and they take a shot, that's the 0:41:09.680 --> 0:41:13.440 person's gonna shoot you. And you know, back then it 0:41:13.600 --> 0:41:15.880 was like that, you know what I mean, it's not normal. 0:41:16.239 --> 0:41:19.680 Yeah, I've been living by that, and I've been when 0:41:19.719 --> 0:41:21.239 somebody don't do that, I would say, hey, excuse me, 0:41:21.640 --> 0:41:24.560 you just always look at me, and it's a it's 0:41:24.600 --> 0:41:25.920 a very very fun thing. 0:41:26.000 --> 0:41:28.240 Well general, they can't look at you in the period 0:41:29.200 --> 0:41:30.120 it's reasonable down. 0:41:31.280 --> 0:41:33.440 So by the time you got the reason you did 0:41:33.480 --> 0:41:37.480 on reason three I did. I did the Evils at 0:41:37.680 --> 0:41:40.880 just three for three and anybody man full man and 0:41:41.040 --> 0:41:44.160 three yep, I mean, and and. 0:41:44.200 --> 0:41:47.880 You gotta also to manage me. You gotta manage me. 0:41:49.000 --> 0:41:51.600 By that time, me and jan knew each other so well. 0:41:52.800 --> 0:41:54.520 But you know, I was doing for w b l 0:41:54.640 --> 0:41:57.080 S at the time and I was doing radio. 0:41:56.960 --> 0:42:00.200 So Clark can't brought jay Z up there to let 0:42:00.320 --> 0:42:03.279 me uh here in my lifetime. The single that they 0:42:03.840 --> 0:42:07.920 themselves the original because they the I can't get with 0:42:08.000 --> 0:42:10.960 that with false money. As I met sau So when 0:42:11.000 --> 0:42:13.120 they brought it up during my commercial break and I 0:42:13.239 --> 0:42:14.560 heard it, I was like, yo, I'm gonna play this. 0:42:14.600 --> 0:42:15.560 Had a lot of commercial break. 0:42:15.600 --> 0:42:18.160 They're like, but you just listen to you gonna You're 0:42:18.160 --> 0:42:20.160 gonna play it now. I'm like, yeah, open the show 0:42:20.239 --> 0:42:22.520 with it. Next thing, you know, Jay's like, you know, 0:42:22.560 --> 0:42:24.280 I got something before you give me a bottle Crystal. 0:42:24.440 --> 0:42:26.160 I didn't know who Cristal was because we were still 0:42:26.200 --> 0:42:29.360 drinking more and he's like, you know, this is the 0:42:29.520 --> 0:42:32.160 real deal champagne right here. There's a big, big ball 0:42:32.200 --> 0:42:35.120 of stuff. I was like, cool, and I saved for 0:42:35.360 --> 0:42:38.480 years and years save the bottle. Yeah, I'm finally drinking, 0:42:38.880 --> 0:42:40.520 you know, and that now for you know, Jay, don't 0:42:40.520 --> 0:42:41.160 fucking Crystal. 0:42:41.280 --> 0:42:45.160 But we don't go. I don't forget about so yeah. 0:42:45.520 --> 0:42:49.400 So now the space now space yea, So that's not 0:42:49.520 --> 0:42:52.759 the best, but it's okay, you know. I say that 0:42:56.160 --> 0:42:57.120 was a birthday party. 0:42:58.040 --> 0:42:59.920 Was the first time I take the space because Jay 0:43:00.080 --> 0:43:01.839 came to the birthday party and was like, I think 0:43:01.920 --> 0:43:02.640 nothing never tasted that. 0:43:02.719 --> 0:43:04.840 He said, oh no, he pour poured me a glass 0:43:05.120 --> 0:43:07.640 and we had slammed down. I'm on a whiskey. I'm 0:43:07.640 --> 0:43:10.960 a brown liquor guy, whiskey. Gud Now, let me before 0:43:11.000 --> 0:43:14.480 we get into this, into the interview. 0:43:14.640 --> 0:43:19.200 So, so Dame approached well, Jay approached me about it 0:43:19.280 --> 0:43:21.560 since we had had a friendship already, and then he 0:43:21.600 --> 0:43:22.440 introduced me to Dame. 0:43:22.480 --> 0:43:24.520 I used to see Dame and in the Bronx walking 0:43:24.560 --> 0:43:26.120 his dogs all the time. 0:43:26.239 --> 0:43:27.799 Yeah, he always had his dogs, and he was walking 0:43:27.880 --> 0:43:29.520 around because he was going to see Chubby Chubb. 0:43:29.320 --> 0:43:32.239 And Steve because he was handling managing them, and said, 0:43:32.320 --> 0:43:34.840 Chubby Chubby, Chubby Chuff d Yeah, j. 0:43:34.920 --> 0:43:38.120 Chummy Chuff original flavor. As it's a big DJ in Boston. 0:43:38.200 --> 0:43:40.240 In Boston, Okay, Boston. 0:43:40.360 --> 0:43:42.680 So, so Dame used to be around there walking his 0:43:42.760 --> 0:43:45.120 dogs all the time. So we met then, but it 0:43:45.239 --> 0:43:47.200 was just small talking. We were just you know, everybody 0:43:47.239 --> 0:43:48.319 knew Gangshaw was at the time. 0:43:48.360 --> 0:43:49.600 We were we were known enough. 0:43:49.920 --> 0:43:52.600 So from there, Jay said, this is gotta handles the business. 0:43:53.080 --> 0:43:55.640 So I went down with him, tolding my much. I said, 0:43:55.960 --> 0:43:59.319 because it's Jay, it's all love. I'm only gonna charge 0:43:59.320 --> 0:44:02.840 you four thousands, which was very very very lucky. 0:44:03.040 --> 0:44:05.280 And I don't believe in luck, but that's a blessing 0:44:05.360 --> 0:44:07.279 for me to give you that type of number. We 0:44:07.400 --> 0:44:09.360 went in the back. They gave me the cash and 0:44:09.480 --> 0:44:10.440 I started getting busy. 0:44:10.520 --> 0:44:11.480 Now Jacob. 0:44:13.000 --> 0:44:22.800 And and and and here you go. 0:44:23.160 --> 0:44:25.520 So Jay called me and said, I got this song 0:44:26.040 --> 0:44:28.759 called the Heavil. He explained it to me, and my god, 0:44:30.920 --> 0:44:32.799 he explained it to me. Then he wrapped the whole 0:44:32.880 --> 0:44:35.440 song on the phone. Then after he wrapped it on 0:44:35.520 --> 0:44:39.160 the phone, then he gave me the scratch idea and said, 0:44:39.520 --> 0:44:40.000 what do you mean? 0:44:40.960 --> 0:44:42.360 He said, I want to judge, So he had it 0:44:42.400 --> 0:44:43.000 all mapped up. 0:44:44.760 --> 0:44:45.239 You saved me. 0:44:47.200 --> 0:44:47.759 He got my mind. 0:44:48.960 --> 0:44:49.839 I can't die. I can't. 0:44:49.920 --> 0:44:51.520 Even though he said, make it go, I can't gave you. 0:44:52.440 --> 0:44:55.000 He knew that he knew the samples. He want, not 0:44:55.080 --> 0:44:57.800 sample to make the beat. He just he gave me 0:44:57.880 --> 0:44:59.600 the idea of how to. He said, this is the 0:44:59.640 --> 0:45:02.759 apps feel I want musically, but I want you to, 0:45:02.920 --> 0:45:05.880 no matter what you make, do these scratches. And I 0:45:05.960 --> 0:45:07.479 went down there and I said, yo, I'll be ready 0:45:07.480 --> 0:45:08.319 by the time you get there. 0:45:08.320 --> 0:45:10.000 And it was ready. And when he walked in, I said, 0:45:13.320 --> 0:45:17.680 the scratches That's what I'm saying that he the cut. 0:45:18.160 --> 0:45:23.800 He said, hey, yeah, estamples, he picked that already on 0:45:23.920 --> 0:45:28.480 the phone on the phone, so so he had that 0:45:28.560 --> 0:45:29.919 well thought out and you know, so crazy. 0:45:30.040 --> 0:45:33.480 Him and Biggie's are always lay the cup vocals. And 0:45:33.560 --> 0:45:35.640 then they both to leave and go all right, do. 0:45:35.719 --> 0:45:38.359 The premier thing. And they both said the same thing, 0:45:38.480 --> 0:45:40.279 do the premier thing. They wouldn't sit there like y, 0:45:40.360 --> 0:45:42.400 I gotta watch you, man, I gotta make sure it's right. 0:45:43.080 --> 0:45:43.719 Do the premier thing. 0:45:43.800 --> 0:45:45.360 Were going out and they would leave and let me 0:45:45.480 --> 0:45:49.040 just do my thing. I might have said, you did 0:45:49.080 --> 0:45:51.680 it in the first dround. 0:45:52.160 --> 0:45:53.239 You know I'm good. 0:45:53.560 --> 0:45:59.719 So now, Pete Rock, you established your super producer. You 0:46:00.040 --> 0:46:02.880 if you've done everything you work with the best, what 0:46:03.120 --> 0:46:05.720 makes you say I want to do a whole album? 0:46:05.960 --> 0:46:09.640 First off with Duck Down before smoke this, because you 0:46:09.800 --> 0:46:12.319 you did a whole He did the Loud, the joint 0:46:12.360 --> 0:46:13.719 on Loud, did Smith. 0:46:13.480 --> 0:46:15.839 And Wesson Soul Survivor too? 0:46:17.440 --> 0:46:19.520 With Yeah. 0:46:22.120 --> 0:46:23.000 Everybody Aloud? 0:46:25.040 --> 0:46:30.319 You know it was crazy and then the best make 0:46:30.440 --> 0:46:32.439 you say, you know what, I'm gonna do a whole 0:46:32.520 --> 0:46:34.560 project with Smith and Wesson. 0:46:34.680 --> 0:46:37.840 I think it was just the all and it just 0:46:37.920 --> 0:46:39.600 made me say, you know what, Damn, I love all 0:46:39.719 --> 0:46:42.319 these two. If I could make a joint with him. 0:46:42.360 --> 0:46:44.760 Then I went to Steve. He was with the idea. 0:46:45.520 --> 0:46:47.800 I knew he could make make it happen, you know. 0:46:48.040 --> 0:46:50.759 Then I was on the label they signed me, and 0:46:50.840 --> 0:46:53.360 I was like, wow, okay, the one album deal. But 0:46:53.760 --> 0:46:56.560 I said, no, I'm gonna make this one real good. 0:46:56.960 --> 0:46:59.160 I'm saying. And then look I got the count and 0:46:59.239 --> 0:47:02.200 hand me. Let me just see what's happen. And then boom, 0:47:02.239 --> 0:47:03.560 I'm just go in and start. 0:47:03.760 --> 0:47:06.399 Thinking in the half man and now you got a joint. 0:47:07.160 --> 0:47:07.680 It's funny. 0:47:07.760 --> 0:47:10.560 The ship with me and you house most strange, real 0:47:10.640 --> 0:47:13.000 close with each other, like are we talking strange food 0:47:13.080 --> 0:47:13.359 right now? 0:47:13.560 --> 0:47:18.279 You know we're talking. We're talking and the fat albat 0:47:18.360 --> 0:47:19.759 Johnson the ship on. 0:47:19.880 --> 0:47:24.480 So there, Yeah, had I had such a great time 0:47:24.760 --> 0:47:27.920 studio What was the green studio? Yeah you was? You 0:47:28.120 --> 0:47:30.960 was green Street? Yeah you know you look at my 0:47:31.040 --> 0:47:37.000 memory memory of Pete it was Green Street, but that 0:47:37.160 --> 0:47:40.120 was way down to that was that was his. That 0:47:40.239 --> 0:47:43.600 was like Jamie friends in my house. 0:47:43.960 --> 0:47:47.160 The flood I came in right after that and the 0:47:48.040 --> 0:47:48.920 whole story. 0:47:51.600 --> 0:47:54.360 About you missed. 0:47:54.400 --> 0:47:59.920 It was like. 0:48:01.680 --> 0:48:02.520 Shot a bullet holes. 0:48:02.520 --> 0:48:04.480 Bullet holes in the warm. It's still in the wall. 0:48:04.719 --> 0:48:05.600 God damn, that's makes some. 0:48:10.239 --> 0:48:13.120 Regardless, you know, it was a great time and great 0:48:13.200 --> 0:48:14.080 test was my home. 0:48:14.480 --> 0:48:18.160 That's so who was it? It was me? Pun in common, Me, 0:48:18.360 --> 0:48:21.000 pun in common. What a combination? That's yeah. 0:48:21.400 --> 0:48:22.839 Me and pun got real tight. 0:48:23.040 --> 0:48:23.480 You know what I mean? 0:48:23.560 --> 0:48:25.520 No, listen, Pete, let me just tell you something. We 0:48:25.560 --> 0:48:27.880 were so hoarded to come back if we had a 0:48:28.040 --> 0:48:34.920 ball or the pieces. It was Green Street Studios. 0:48:34.920 --> 0:48:37.879 I could never forget it because you know, Pete showed 0:48:37.920 --> 0:48:39.920 me and I remember I had the Cardier frames on 0:48:40.080 --> 0:48:42.799 at that time too, and I also and I also 0:48:42.880 --> 0:48:46.040 had a very important sweater on and I worked from Miami. 0:48:46.760 --> 0:48:50.160 It was called because this is the guy who designed Iceberg. 0:48:50.480 --> 0:48:52.080 But then he went and did his own thing and 0:48:52.160 --> 0:48:54.440 I forgot what it was called. But it was some 0:48:54.640 --> 0:48:57.160 fly ship and I bought it from bout Harborough and 0:48:57.239 --> 0:48:59.239 I only wore the peate rock super got that makes 0:48:59.280 --> 0:48:59.600 a noise. 0:49:03.440 --> 0:49:09.160 So now, you guys, you work with knobs, You worked 0:49:09.200 --> 0:49:11.799 with ja Have you ever worked with Beg? You never 0:49:11.840 --> 0:49:12.319 worked a bit? 0:49:13.040 --> 0:49:15.600 He'd been to my crib. He was picking my in 0:49:15.719 --> 0:49:20.080 the little beats and he's like, you know, and then 0:49:20.239 --> 0:49:22.279 you know he heard the idea of juicy at my 0:49:22.400 --> 0:49:25.920 baseball you know, the one that brought Big to the 0:49:26.200 --> 0:49:27.600 to my house. You know, we all from. 0:49:30.040 --> 0:49:33.880 Puffers from dell Avenue and Mount Vernon and do it 0:49:33.920 --> 0:49:37.000 bigg to the crib and he's just like, yo, Big, 0:49:37.120 --> 0:49:38.520 He's like, yo, I just won't see how you make 0:49:38.600 --> 0:49:38.879 a beat. 0:49:39.239 --> 0:49:43.239 And then I made this be called uh that's a 0:49:43.320 --> 0:49:46.080 song called in the Flesh on the main ingredient, and 0:49:46.239 --> 0:49:51.160 I made that. He wanted it, you know, but it didn't. 0:49:51.000 --> 0:49:54.080 Happen somehow, but we ended up using it for an hour. 0:49:54.239 --> 0:49:56.480 But he was there and saw the process. 0:49:56.640 --> 0:50:00.520 But now described that because now you know offers from 0:50:00.560 --> 0:50:02.920 Malvern So you look at him like a pier. But 0:50:03.120 --> 0:50:05.960 now do you do you realize that this guy that 0:50:06.040 --> 0:50:09.520 he just rung to your studio is the most legendary. 0:50:09.560 --> 0:50:12.240 Person in the world. You knew what you do already. 0:50:12.280 --> 0:50:14.840 The order was because I think puff came on the 0:50:14.920 --> 0:50:18.040 show and he's squire big as disruptive, Like his look 0:50:18.160 --> 0:50:18.440 was there. 0:50:19.239 --> 0:50:20.520 Did you get that feeling? 0:50:21.280 --> 0:50:23.480 I didn't even pay attention to that. I was I 0:50:23.560 --> 0:50:24.560 was about to skip. 0:50:24.360 --> 0:50:25.120 The lyrics. 0:50:26.360 --> 0:50:30.279 Homely, I got to beat the match, you know what 0:50:30.280 --> 0:50:33.160 I mean, let's keep some poppings. But he heard the 0:50:33.280 --> 0:50:36.600 idea of juicy and just you know, I didn't actually 0:50:36.680 --> 0:50:38.120 do the actual rich, but I. 0:50:38.520 --> 0:50:40.759 Ended up doing the remix and that was the only 0:50:40.840 --> 0:50:44.120 thing I get big at them. But you know, if 0:50:44.640 --> 0:50:47.520 you know he did pick beats, you know, we just 0:50:47.560 --> 0:50:48.799 didn't get a chance to him. 0:50:49.200 --> 0:50:50.840 But yeah, he knew what he wanted to rap to. 0:50:51.080 --> 0:50:51.279 Yeah. 0:50:51.400 --> 0:50:56.520 Man, now you primo, how did you first meet there? 0:50:57.120 --> 0:51:01.680 I met Big when we moved actual Brooklyn's for green 0:51:02.160 --> 0:51:05.000 living with Branford, not in a lot of rough places. 0:51:05.160 --> 0:51:11.239 Yeah, yeah, yeah we will this way when Branford, when 0:51:11.280 --> 0:51:15.480 Brandford Valley officially moved out and went to California, we 0:51:15.600 --> 0:51:19.600 turned this place into a frat house, party house. Was 0:51:20.440 --> 0:51:24.800 jes was where Washington life yet and green and this 0:51:24.920 --> 0:51:27.520 Brooklyn yeah brook Okay, it's old school Brooklyn. 0:51:27.600 --> 0:51:33.000 Ye, so that you can get get spots every other 0:51:33.120 --> 0:51:40.400 storm shot coming out. He's like you that shoot him 0:51:40.440 --> 0:51:43.120 up corner and it's not this is not this is 0:51:43.200 --> 0:51:44.920 not the vegans. 0:51:46.280 --> 0:51:52.080 This is this is himpster, hipster, the old English. Yeah 0:51:52.960 --> 0:51:56.560 you know this when Biggie wore the same green. This 0:51:56.640 --> 0:51:58.919 is when in Biggie the Biggie wore the same green 0:51:59.280 --> 0:52:01.680 on me Jack and the sleeves were about the right 0:52:03.120 --> 0:52:06.880 ri showing, but he bore it all the time. I 0:52:06.960 --> 0:52:09.439 knew Nino Chico sees Kim. 0:52:09.560 --> 0:52:10.879 Would they bring you this guy? 0:52:11.560 --> 0:52:13.920 No, Miss, I gotta give mister c the credit, miss, 0:52:14.880 --> 0:52:17.720 But he's from the beginning with Yeah. 0:52:16.880 --> 0:52:20.480 He was annoying me, like yo, he wouldn't be I 0:52:20.600 --> 0:52:23.880 g yet he was Biggie Smalls and I mean somebody 0:52:23.960 --> 0:52:26.360 else had Biggie small, so that he just dad. But 0:52:26.840 --> 0:52:28.239 I used to a lot of shoulder with Caine, and 0:52:28.280 --> 0:52:29.920 there was times that I couldn't. 0:52:30.120 --> 0:52:32.680 My turntables got damaged because back then you carried your 0:52:32.719 --> 0:52:34.640 equipment on tour and uh. 0:52:34.800 --> 0:52:40.120 And you're right, d he want he wanted to still 0:52:40.120 --> 0:52:44.120 bring his He got run out, mister his. 0:52:44.160 --> 0:52:47.560 Turntables right before Caine took the stage so the gang 0:52:47.600 --> 0:52:49.000 start could perform so well. 0:52:49.040 --> 0:52:49.320 Again. 0:52:49.400 --> 0:52:51.040 He lived right down the block from all the weak 0:52:51.080 --> 0:52:53.279 spots that we knew, and so you gotta go out, 0:52:53.280 --> 0:52:56.719 mister Sea and the wet spots right there, the new one, 0:52:56.800 --> 0:52:58.239 the one is like oh no, no, that one was 0:52:58.280 --> 0:53:04.200 dead this one and so the nice Franklin Abe. So 0:53:04.480 --> 0:53:07.840 then during that time, Missus steves to call me go 0:53:08.000 --> 0:53:09.879 pream Biggie Small, Biggie Small. 0:53:09.920 --> 0:53:11.480 I'm like, see, I'm gonna listen. 0:53:11.360 --> 0:53:14.640 To it, like, ex, give me some time weeks past, yo, 0:53:14.719 --> 0:53:17.360 Pream Biggie Small. That's why I'm like, yo, see before 0:53:18.280 --> 0:53:21.040 yeah right, yeah, just Biggie small and Biggie Small big. 0:53:21.080 --> 0:53:22.880 And I'm like, dude, I'm gonna listen to it because 0:53:22.880 --> 0:53:24.120 we're pretty busy that at that time. 0:53:24.160 --> 0:53:26.880 I read it Monday, I listened to it, liked it 0:53:27.040 --> 0:53:29.160 like the demos that I heard, And then I met 0:53:29.239 --> 0:53:31.400 Big on the corner. I was going to the corner store. 0:53:31.320 --> 0:53:34.520 Me Guru, Big Sugar Dap, and Dap was in love 0:53:34.600 --> 0:53:36.120 with Little Kim, and Little Kim was like the way 0:53:36.920 --> 0:53:37.200 they like. 0:53:37.239 --> 0:53:45.560 Yeah, yeah, y'allkind yeah, that's this very shout. 0:53:47.640 --> 0:53:50.640 Yeah. And that family MELICOI Melkai got locked up for 0:53:50.719 --> 0:53:54.280 many homes, well home Melicott. You know, we all connected 0:53:54.360 --> 0:53:57.239 me jaw, all of us are still good. So uh 0:53:57.560 --> 0:54:00.640 So then Big was like, yo, see she told you. 0:54:00.760 --> 0:54:02.839 You told me he's been stressing you. I was like, yeah, 0:54:02.880 --> 0:54:05.359 I finally heard it. I said, we gotta get something 0:54:05.440 --> 0:54:07.800 in and then he goes, Joe puffing is that? This 0:54:07.920 --> 0:54:10.279 is what he said, Puffing is interressing, is signing me. 0:54:10.800 --> 0:54:16.239 So this is how far back before ninety he said, 0:54:16.280 --> 0:54:17.520 puff addressing and signed him. 0:54:17.520 --> 0:54:18.440 I said, dude, go with him. 0:54:18.560 --> 0:54:21.400 I said, puff of Puff not only has money, he 0:54:21.520 --> 0:54:23.600 got a vision. He gonna blow you up. 0:54:23.640 --> 0:54:25.239 He said, well, I don't know, man, you know, I 0:54:25.400 --> 0:54:26.240 want to keep his hood. 0:54:26.320 --> 0:54:28.400 I'm like, yo, he don't want to go with go 0:54:28.520 --> 0:54:30.560 with puff? Wow, you know, and then boom, next thing 0:54:30.600 --> 0:54:33.359 you know, Puff started coming around. And actually I tell 0:54:33.400 --> 0:54:33.759 people this. 0:54:34.440 --> 0:54:39.319 Puff was the first one, because Puff is the first. 0:54:39.680 --> 0:54:43.000 Remember state, Yeah, but so what was the first record 0:54:43.040 --> 0:54:45.480 you actually worked on with a big Unbelievable? 0:54:45.920 --> 0:54:52.880 Oh believe this is actually what trick. This is what trickleed. 0:54:52.920 --> 0:54:55.239 That was a single trickle. 0:54:55.000 --> 0:54:57.840 Down into why I gave jay Z and him the 0:54:57.880 --> 0:55:03.040 price a lower price for a reasonable doubt, because when 0:55:03.080 --> 0:55:08.319 we did Unbelievable the the the budget had run out 0:55:08.719 --> 0:55:10.440 for Big and I told Big, I don't have. 0:55:10.520 --> 0:55:12.320 Time to make a beat, and he goes, yo, I 0:55:12.400 --> 0:55:17.000 got five thousand dollars And I was like, you know, 0:55:17.520 --> 0:55:18.920 but we were already cool with each other. 0:55:19.280 --> 0:55:21.399 But I felt weird telling him no, But I really 0:55:21.440 --> 0:55:22.840 didn't have the time and I'm a person. 0:55:23.360 --> 0:55:25.640 Then Pete will tell you this. I make the beat 0:55:25.719 --> 0:55:26.160 on the spot. 0:55:27.360 --> 0:55:29.399 And now that's something that people don't realize. I don't 0:55:29.440 --> 0:55:31.160 have like twenty beats and go your pick one, like. 0:55:31.480 --> 0:55:34.840 Taking number six and number four number that's a real. 0:55:36.280 --> 0:55:36.440 Beat. 0:55:37.840 --> 0:55:39.520 They said that that's what they do. They make it 0:55:39.680 --> 0:55:42.640 to the artists. So I didn't have nothing for big. 0:55:42.719 --> 0:55:43.279 That was dope. 0:55:43.360 --> 0:55:44.759 You know. I'd be like, come on, man, I know 0:55:44.840 --> 0:55:47.200 you got something's like I don't. I really don't. You 0:55:47.320 --> 0:55:50.200 come here, we can make it big old. I don't 0:55:50.239 --> 0:55:52.640 care if you're taking piece of president and just some 0:55:52.840 --> 0:55:57.160 funny stab sounds and you know he knew the slag. Yeah, 0:55:57.160 --> 0:56:01.440 and you know what we're saying product in the production era. 0:56:01.840 --> 0:56:04.040 So he said, I don't give it's just some stabs. 0:56:04.080 --> 0:56:07.200 I said a word. So coming up tonight, then that's 0:56:07.239 --> 0:56:09.160 what happened. He comes up. I said, I'll take the 0:56:09.239 --> 0:56:09.920 five thousand. 0:56:10.200 --> 0:56:12.239 I said, but if you get a deal and you 0:56:12.440 --> 0:56:16.600 go platinum, I won thirty five thousand dollars per track. 0:56:17.320 --> 0:56:21.960 Wow. After after him, Yeah, we did the song. 0:56:23.640 --> 0:56:27.640 Negotiation it's crazy in this ninety five, there's ninety five. 0:56:27.719 --> 0:56:31.000 He comes in, we do the song. It becomes the 0:56:31.160 --> 0:56:34.120 B side of Juicy. It was like the street singles 0:56:34.200 --> 0:56:36.160 for Juicy. It was my first gold single. 0:56:36.239 --> 0:56:37.000 So I was a wow. 0:56:37.480 --> 0:56:39.520 As soon as he got the deal to up the money. 0:56:39.880 --> 0:56:42.279 I remember, he goes, yo, I got to check for it. 0:56:42.360 --> 0:56:44.560 You said thirty five, right, He said, I got. I 0:56:44.640 --> 0:56:47.200 got two of them and brought me to check and 0:56:47.360 --> 0:56:49.000 Puffy gave me the check and I was like, wow, 0:56:49.080 --> 0:56:49.839 he kept his word. 0:56:50.400 --> 0:56:52.560 Oh so this was it on paper. This is a word. 0:56:52.680 --> 0:56:58.960 It was like a handshake ship. Yeah, that's big. Damn damn, 0:56:59.320 --> 0:57:03.239 you learned it. So it's hip hop history. Getting thirty back, 0:57:03.320 --> 0:57:07.400 thirty five back then no triple, that's ninety. 0:57:09.480 --> 0:57:09.520 So. 0:57:09.680 --> 0:57:13.759 Now let me ask you, because you the reputation is 0:57:13.840 --> 0:57:18.280 like the most hip hoppis of hip hoppis now Janet Jackson. 0:57:18.360 --> 0:57:22.160 You work with Janet Jackson, You work with Christina Million, 0:57:25.240 --> 0:57:26.760 you worked did you work with Britney Spears? 0:57:27.240 --> 0:57:27.280 No? 0:57:29.000 --> 0:57:32.520 So just is crazy. As a hip hop producer. You 0:57:32.640 --> 0:57:35.120 get this call, what is your first thing to say 0:57:35.280 --> 0:57:36.000 for Christina? 0:57:36.320 --> 0:57:39.000 Yeah? Because you know that wasn't her, dude, that put 0:57:39.040 --> 0:57:41.600 her on her ex husband JORDI had put her on 0:57:41.760 --> 0:57:43.840 some of my stuff, but she liked it. So she 0:57:43.960 --> 0:57:45.600 called me and goes, yo, I just heard the group 0:57:45.680 --> 0:57:53.880 home album. Oh Ship, that's that's wait what Christian she 0:57:54.160 --> 0:57:54.560 just heard? 0:57:55.600 --> 0:57:58.080 I met at the Chateau Mama down the hill on 0:57:58.200 --> 0:57:59.640 sunset you kind of front. 0:58:05.360 --> 0:58:08.840 In Germany, clean shatter. 0:58:08.640 --> 0:58:10.240 My moms with a lot of a lot of wigs, 0:58:10.360 --> 0:58:16.120 big wigs, lamp and drinking and get enough money. Right 0:58:16.160 --> 0:58:18.600 down the hill, it's right before tower, like right after 0:58:18.600 --> 0:58:21.040 the Beast Tower records or any little the big Tower 0:58:21.080 --> 0:58:23.720 records right there and it's got a big neon size 0:58:23.760 --> 0:58:25.520 and shout told my mom with bushes so you can't 0:58:25.560 --> 0:58:26.560 really see the spot. 0:58:27.200 --> 0:58:29.840 And she said, my rolls Royce is outside. I saw 0:58:29.920 --> 0:58:33.440 the white the white fan. I said, she's here, walk in. 0:58:33.600 --> 0:58:35.480 She's sitting there with Jordie. She goes, you know, I 0:58:35.600 --> 0:58:41.400 love Goopong and I was like, that's Brando pinpoint crazy 0:58:41.680 --> 0:58:47.760 Grimy is out like like like the jazz samples I 0:58:47.880 --> 0:58:48.760 used on some of the games. 0:58:49.600 --> 0:58:50.240 So she liked. 0:58:51.480 --> 0:58:55.880 She liked the jazz things. She like worked, she liked 0:58:55.920 --> 0:58:59.560 the Yeah she works like you know my Steves even 0:58:59.560 --> 0:59:02.320 though that was a song. But the song she was 0:59:02.440 --> 0:59:05.720 naming with joints like wow, that attracted you to want 0:59:05.720 --> 0:59:08.200 to work with me. Let's go in. And then we 0:59:08.360 --> 0:59:10.760 ended up we were suposed to do one record, which 0:59:10.880 --> 0:59:12.240 was called we were called back in the day. 0:59:12.920 --> 0:59:14.600 Next thing you know, she was like, Yo, stay here 0:59:14.640 --> 0:59:16.360 a couple more weeks and we just started banging out 0:59:16.400 --> 0:59:18.600 and turned it into five records. And then that was 0:59:18.640 --> 0:59:21.120 the first Grammy I ever got for a single, whereas 0:59:21.240 --> 0:59:22.880 you know, not for for being on the album. I 0:59:22.880 --> 0:59:25.320 got a Grammy for D'Angelo being up working on the 0:59:25.360 --> 0:59:27.560 album and for jay Z on Hannack Life. But to 0:59:27.600 --> 0:59:31.080 get one for the single is singles out all the 0:59:31.160 --> 0:59:33.560 other songs on the album. It's like, for that one song, 0:59:33.680 --> 0:59:34.480 you got a Grammy. 0:59:34.560 --> 0:59:37.120 So that was a big monumental name of my career. 0:59:37.200 --> 0:59:39.560 It was dope. It was beautiful. Man make a noise 0:59:39.600 --> 0:59:40.240 for that. God damn it. 0:59:43.480 --> 0:59:47.840 Who was it that you said, you work with them, 0:59:48.440 --> 0:59:51.040 but you wanted to see them right the rhyme and 0:59:51.560 --> 0:59:52.120 they face. 0:59:54.480 --> 0:59:57.080 It was somebody I forget. I'll work with them, but 0:59:57.120 --> 0:59:59.240 I want to see them right the rhyme right the rhyme. 0:59:59.280 --> 1:00:00.920 I think it was like a Justin Bieber. 1:00:01.400 --> 1:00:07.080 Okay, all right, yeah, you know the cipher which I've 1:00:07.080 --> 1:00:09.160 been doing, that was the site there. Yeah, we didn't 1:00:09.200 --> 1:00:11.680 know the cipher for BT hip hopwa was gonna even 1:00:11.720 --> 1:00:12.320 get this big. 1:00:12.960 --> 1:00:16.080 It was an idea. Shouting shot to Jesse Collins and 1:00:16.200 --> 1:00:17.080 congratulations to. 1:00:17.120 --> 1:00:21.040 Jesse Collins for doing real well with a new edition story. 1:00:21.120 --> 1:00:23.440 That was his idea and it blew up and did 1:00:23.800 --> 1:00:25.920 really really well, did big numbers. And Justice is a 1:00:26.000 --> 1:00:29.000 good friend of mine. We arguing, fight a lot over 1:00:29.160 --> 1:00:31.080 and know it's wrong if you do it this way. 1:00:31.120 --> 1:00:32.720 You know it's right if you do it this way. 1:00:33.120 --> 1:00:34.840 We fight a lot, but he's such a good friend 1:00:34.880 --> 1:00:37.680 that we always find a compromise. When he brought up 1:00:37.720 --> 1:00:39.600 the idea of doing the cipher, it was a one 1:00:39.760 --> 1:00:45.680 time thing. It was Pat Poo's styles, p Remy who 1:00:45.760 --> 1:00:49.280 else was in it rom Fest and then it was 1:00:49.360 --> 1:00:52.040 a second one and those two I couldn't make it 1:00:52.040 --> 1:00:54.200 because I was on tour, so I had DJ Scratch 1:00:54.280 --> 1:00:55.800 fill in for me. I just gave him the beat 1:00:56.000 --> 1:00:58.600 and said let's keep it break beach only you know, 1:00:58.640 --> 1:01:00.760 because something now is that elevation and if you're like yo, man, 1:01:00.760 --> 1:01:01.640 I need something to turn up to. 1:01:01.760 --> 1:01:04.160 It's like, no, this is the pure form of how 1:01:04.200 --> 1:01:05.640 we do it. We're keeping the break beat, so are 1:01:05.640 --> 1:01:08.040 you're a producer on that PI specific thing. I picked 1:01:08.040 --> 1:01:08.800 the beat, I'll loop it. 1:01:09.160 --> 1:01:12.040 I'll do maybefore James Brown loop a break beef from 1:01:12.080 --> 1:01:15.040 Ultimate breaks and beats whatever, and I'll send those and whatever. 1:01:15.080 --> 1:01:15.200 One. 1:01:15.280 --> 1:01:17.240 Jesse's like, yo, I like this one. We'll clear it 1:01:17.600 --> 1:01:19.680 with whoever owns it, and then we'll send it to 1:01:19.760 --> 1:01:20.960 all the artists and we. 1:01:21.120 --> 1:01:26.320 Tell them sixteen bars and quick everybody's got ninety bars everything, 1:01:26.320 --> 1:01:28.600 and it's like they never follow the rules. Then they 1:01:28.640 --> 1:01:30.720 get mad, like yo, they edited my stuff. It's like no, 1:01:31.440 --> 1:01:34.680 he told you sixteen and quit right and again it 1:01:34.840 --> 1:01:35.480 was one time. 1:01:35.600 --> 1:01:39.400 Only. Second year comes around up to set cipher, They're like, 1:01:39.560 --> 1:01:42.600 we want to do it again. Now they got three ciphers, 1:01:43.040 --> 1:01:45.600 then that turning the four ciphers after that. 1:01:46.160 --> 1:01:48.200 Now it's starting to get ciphers where they're starting to 1:01:48.240 --> 1:01:49.520 put a lot of artists. 1:01:49.240 --> 1:01:52.600 That I'm like, nah, nah, they can't rhyme, don't put 1:01:52.640 --> 1:01:53.120 them in there. 1:01:53.560 --> 1:01:56.040 And it's going into that stage of it where now 1:01:56.120 --> 1:01:59.560 it's like where they're popular, they're no more known than 1:01:59.640 --> 1:02:02.160 the kill them seas. I'm like, yeah, but if you're 1:02:02.200 --> 1:02:06.400 taking away the skill that that causes problems with the authenticity. 1:02:06.520 --> 1:02:08.880 And that's why I have a problem because I wanted 1:02:08.920 --> 1:02:11.720 to stay authentic. Yeah, but all the fans love them, 1:02:11.760 --> 1:02:13.720 and they're on TV and they're on every video, and 1:02:13.960 --> 1:02:16.720 these other guys nobody's paying attention to them. I'm like, well, 1:02:16.760 --> 1:02:18.480 you know what they're going to pay attention to when 1:02:18.520 --> 1:02:21.160 they see how dope they spread beat. So we always 1:02:21.200 --> 1:02:25.160 have that fight. One year, they say, yo, what do 1:02:25.200 --> 1:02:27.560 you think of Justin Bieber was spitting on the sipher. 1:02:27.640 --> 1:02:30.160 I said, I don't know he heard it, as long 1:02:30.240 --> 1:02:33.080 as he writes to rhyme and if it's a dope rohm, 1:02:33.160 --> 1:02:36.240 let's do He said, what if somebody else writes? 1:02:36.440 --> 1:02:44.200 I said, no, that was it with roomors being saying 1:02:44.200 --> 1:02:45.840 that I mentioned this person this person. 1:02:46.000 --> 1:02:49.240 No, it was just as simple. If he's going to 1:02:49.320 --> 1:02:51.560 do it, let him spit. And and so next thing, 1:02:51.640 --> 1:02:55.240 you know, it's next thing he turns in the whole 1:02:55.280 --> 1:02:59.120 campaign and showing him spinning versus on radio stations on that, 1:02:59.160 --> 1:03:01.360 and I'm like, yo, I work with Justin Bieber as 1:03:01.440 --> 1:03:03.960 long as it's authentic, let's rock. I don't care if 1:03:04.000 --> 1:03:04.640 it's Justin Bieber. 1:03:04.680 --> 1:03:07.840 I don't care if it's Mary Poppins. If it's authenticless rock. 1:03:07.920 --> 1:03:10.320 That's how important is that for you guys? 1:03:11.320 --> 1:03:11.560 I know? 1:03:11.640 --> 1:03:14.920 Problem with that with just I was like, yes, but 1:03:15.240 --> 1:03:17.840 just you wanted him to write and they didn't. 1:03:17.640 --> 1:03:19.080 Say that he wasn't gonna write, and they said what 1:03:19.200 --> 1:03:22.400 if he doesn't? And I'm like that he shows on 1:03:22.480 --> 1:03:24.400 the blog d premiere band. 1:03:24.640 --> 1:03:26.800 Justin Bieber's like, how can I band nobody? 1:03:26.920 --> 1:03:28.840 Because if it was my cipher, You're gonna see Cane 1:03:28.960 --> 1:03:33.640 theremel there, rock him there, d I T C doing 1:03:33.680 --> 1:03:34.600 the whole cypher. 1:03:34.360 --> 1:03:37.720 With a G and Diamond and and and the old 1:03:37.800 --> 1:03:38.480 Ce and all of them. 1:03:38.520 --> 1:03:42.360 It's gonna be people like that, you know, yeah, because 1:03:42.960 --> 1:03:46.800 you see when the Shady Cipher it was eminem You know, 1:03:46.880 --> 1:03:52.320 people with skills them Broyce, Joe Budden, uh Crooked Eye skills. 1:03:52.640 --> 1:03:54.680 Know how important is that for you? 1:03:54.840 --> 1:03:57.200 For you guys, You guys have to integral that you 1:03:57.320 --> 1:03:59.680 guys are on the top of the line of producers 1:03:59.720 --> 1:04:03.840 when when we're speaking real real world hip hop, you 1:04:03.960 --> 1:04:06.800 guys name has to be brought up now. Is is 1:04:07.640 --> 1:04:11.000 it ever a time where you sit back and say, 1:04:11.400 --> 1:04:14.200 you know, I'm gonna do it for the money this time, 1:04:14.880 --> 1:04:17.880 or you say I'm gonna always stay who I. 1:04:17.920 --> 1:04:21.760 Am always say and I've been tempted. 1:04:24.280 --> 1:04:24.440 Much. 1:04:25.480 --> 1:04:28.440 We are a good example of olymp Biscuit. But it's 1:04:28.480 --> 1:04:30.600 in our hearts to the asking it about love. 1:04:30.960 --> 1:04:33.640 We do that do it for the love. It's like, 1:04:33.760 --> 1:04:35.320 it's just that's who we are. 1:04:38.040 --> 1:04:40.840 Biscuit was a good example tell us because when my 1:04:40.960 --> 1:04:44.080 manager kept pressing me to do it Patrick Moxey at 1:04:44.120 --> 1:04:46.640 the time, I was like nah, because I said, fred 1:04:46.720 --> 1:04:49.040 durstkin't rapt it. And in my eyes on the level 1:04:49.080 --> 1:04:51.640 of what people, I don't want my fans going damn 1:04:51.720 --> 1:04:54.320 praying you've work with him and and I like Limp 1:04:54.320 --> 1:04:56.880 Biscuit for what they do, but if you're gonna get 1:04:56.920 --> 1:04:58.480 with me, it's not what you do. 1:04:58.720 --> 1:05:01.360 And that's a lot more ink, you know what I'm saying. 1:05:02.320 --> 1:05:03.960 And that's the bottom line. 1:05:04.440 --> 1:05:07.000 They go, well, method man is on the song. I said, oh, 1:05:08.000 --> 1:05:10.080 I said, then send me the rough and send me 1:05:10.160 --> 1:05:12.760 the rough and meth was on it. I was like, then, okay, 1:05:12.840 --> 1:05:15.520 then I'll do it. And it was a big check, 1:05:15.680 --> 1:05:19.160 a huge check, one of the biggest checks I've ever gotten. 1:05:20.080 --> 1:05:23.280 So the good thing I liked about Fred Durst was 1:05:23.440 --> 1:05:25.560 he called me and said, I need to talk to 1:05:25.680 --> 1:05:28.640 Kreme and he was just becoming one of the new 1:05:28.680 --> 1:05:32.520 executives at Interscope with Jimmy Ivean, and he said, yo, man. 1:05:32.800 --> 1:05:35.920 This is recently. We knew it all back when they 1:05:36.520 --> 1:05:37.880 popping and we were doing. 1:05:37.960 --> 1:05:41.000 But he had respect for what you and we had 1:05:41.040 --> 1:05:44.000 a dope conversation and it was to the point he said, 1:05:44.040 --> 1:05:44.680 the best. 1:05:44.480 --> 1:05:46.160 You can get out of me, I'll do it. He 1:05:46.200 --> 1:05:49.160 came to D and D and so he tried, he tried, 1:05:50.560 --> 1:05:53.479 he tried nobody, nobody, God know nothing. 1:05:53.800 --> 1:05:55.560 And they were big at the time. This is the 1:05:55.680 --> 1:05:59.000 second second album and he was like, Yo, get the 1:05:59.040 --> 1:05:59.760 best you can get. 1:05:59.640 --> 1:05:59.880 Out of me. 1:06:00.040 --> 1:06:01.800 Okay, if you don't like it, whatever, I'll do it. 1:06:01.880 --> 1:06:03.760 And he that was the best I could get when 1:06:03.760 --> 1:06:06.160 what's on the song. But the fact he put the 1:06:06.200 --> 1:06:07.840 effort in. I like the fact he put in the 1:06:07.880 --> 1:06:09.960 effort and he knocked it out. Next thing, you know, 1:06:10.000 --> 1:06:11.160 he said, Yo, we're doing a video. 1:06:11.880 --> 1:06:14.440 Flew us out. We had a big video shoot. We 1:06:14.520 --> 1:06:16.560 had a good time and it was just a just 1:06:16.600 --> 1:06:18.840 a really really fun session. And then me and Me 1:06:18.880 --> 1:06:21.720 and Fred were cool after that. Yo. Before the thing 1:06:21.840 --> 1:06:24.800 is that you guys mentioned Dwick and we didn't go 1:06:24.960 --> 1:06:27.160 back to do it. Let's go back to Troy is 1:06:27.240 --> 1:06:28.280 one of the biggest. 1:06:28.000 --> 1:06:31.960 Hip hop will ever be and it's one of the 1:06:32.000 --> 1:06:33.080 biggest hip hop records. 1:06:34.360 --> 1:06:38.760 We need to hear. We need to hear the story 1:06:38.920 --> 1:06:39.480 of Dwick. 1:06:40.160 --> 1:06:42.880 Dwich the only reason why Dwick happened, because that's all 1:06:42.920 --> 1:06:43.920 of our summer anthems. 1:06:44.000 --> 1:06:46.760 By the way, like we all the nicest move did 1:06:46.840 --> 1:06:47.520 a song. 1:06:47.400 --> 1:06:50.320 Called on the Ain't a Damning Change called down the Line. 1:06:50.680 --> 1:06:52.480 It was with a whole bunch of mcs based Blaster 1:06:52.560 --> 1:06:54.200 Big up to him, a whole bunch of other mc 1:06:54.400 --> 1:06:58.040 he said, based Blaster Yeah from Connecticut, including and shout 1:06:58.120 --> 1:07:00.880 to Ray Pouncy and Ray Paul See and uh and 1:07:01.040 --> 1:07:03.680 then Google's also on it. He said, I want to 1:07:03.720 --> 1:07:06.400 loop the Manifest beat and do my own version because 1:07:06.400 --> 1:07:08.280 a lot of people don't know most of the nicest 1:07:08.320 --> 1:07:13.960 who hits. Greg Knice does all the beats. Wow, I've 1:07:14.000 --> 1:07:16.240 seen him do it. He's for all that stuff. Hip 1:07:16.280 --> 1:07:18.600 hop junkies, every every. 1:07:20.320 --> 1:07:32.960 Oh my sorry yell all that kicking wicked rocks like 1:07:33.000 --> 1:07:35.840 a fortunate time had a dog and on his old 1:07:35.920 --> 1:07:37.680 yellow he did all that stuff. 1:07:37.760 --> 1:07:41.880 Yeah, Greg Knife, he did be for me to make 1:07:41.920 --> 1:07:50.680 him up hip hop right now, the punky bu all 1:07:50.720 --> 1:07:53.040 that stuff does less be plays a sack. I know 1:07:53.120 --> 1:07:55.320 he doesn't play a sack. I remember brand for myself. 1:07:55.520 --> 1:07:56.800 He gonna played the fu sack. 1:07:58.240 --> 1:08:00.960 It works me and myself alove to Max. He did 1:08:01.040 --> 1:08:03.840 all those beats. So Greg Nice is a dope beat maker. 1:08:03.920 --> 1:08:10.160 Wow. So he took the Manifest instrumental, made a beat 1:08:10.680 --> 1:08:13.040 and all we were doing was because we hang tough. 1:08:13.120 --> 1:08:15.560 It was the nicest smooth gang star riding. 1:08:15.320 --> 1:08:16.080 The d trained. 1:08:16.560 --> 1:08:18.760 We go to the castle which was grimy in the 1:08:18.800 --> 1:08:21.280 Bronx and this was the when they had to shoot out. 1:08:21.280 --> 1:08:23.320 Would say, Greg, all that stuff like we were around 1:08:23.600 --> 1:08:28.600 all that stuff. Boom, next thing you know, we said, well, 1:08:28.680 --> 1:08:30.400 let's return the favor and do a record for us. 1:08:30.560 --> 1:08:32.600 So that's all. It was just y'all doing for us. 1:08:32.640 --> 1:08:35.320 We're gonna do one feel doing on there. 1:08:35.400 --> 1:08:37.479 That's why it was the B side and it wasn't 1:08:37.479 --> 1:08:39.320 on the album. I remember people are like, oh yeah, 1:08:39.400 --> 1:08:41.160 y'all left you off the album. It's like, nah, the 1:08:41.280 --> 1:08:43.200 album was already done. We're just doing it for fun. 1:08:44.000 --> 1:08:48.720 We was doing it and that became a huge right now. 1:08:48.760 --> 1:08:50.479 We didn't know it's gonna be a huge We're just 1:08:50.560 --> 1:08:56.960 doing it. No, it was just fun. I remember, I know. 1:08:57.320 --> 1:09:00.679 Shout out to duve C. He was There't you related 1:09:00.720 --> 1:09:02.800 to to somebody on the West like that? No, we 1:09:03.000 --> 1:09:04.800 just good friends. We're just good friend. But you did 1:09:04.840 --> 1:09:07.000 the album m C A recently. Yeah, that's coming out 1:09:07.040 --> 1:09:12.240 of that. Let's go back to was most wanted. 1:09:12.800 --> 1:09:15.439 He did two of the uh theme records for Boys 1:09:15.479 --> 1:09:17.479 in the Hood, he did Grow m C and he 1:09:17.560 --> 1:09:19.920 did She's on Everybody Side. 1:09:20.720 --> 1:09:23.080 So yeah, we have an we have an out hit. 1:09:23.280 --> 1:09:25.920 We have a one hit one. We have which way 1:09:26.040 --> 1:09:33.679 is West's coming? So and and also you haven't, idiot 1:09:35.640 --> 1:09:38.160 know of the connoisseurs and we you know people know. 1:09:38.640 --> 1:09:41.880 Uh and then uh uh shout to Tory Wolf and 1:09:42.080 --> 1:09:43.479 also shot to Miguel. 1:09:43.680 --> 1:09:46.559 We have a single out right now called to Loving You. Now. 1:09:47.520 --> 1:09:50.320 What happened was where where we where? We dwick so 1:09:50.640 --> 1:09:55.080 dub she was there. Wow, that's Don Barron from the Masters. 1:09:54.680 --> 1:09:59.280 And sure yeah, because he was good friends with Greg Knight. 1:10:00.360 --> 1:10:03.360 How did the horny version happen to I was just 1:10:03.439 --> 1:10:03.880 doing that, just. 1:10:03.920 --> 1:10:10.639 Bugging out, and the morning version, the horn the horny 1:10:10.800 --> 1:10:13.759 version as a vocal version had a glitch. 1:10:13.880 --> 1:10:18.160 You remember you when you go to dad Tod. Yeah, 1:10:20.840 --> 1:10:23.120 So when we bounced into we stay quiet, let them 1:10:23.200 --> 1:10:25.200 tell that and had. 1:10:25.120 --> 1:10:29.920 To remember that she's the glitches We couldn't. I was like, 1:10:29.960 --> 1:10:32.320 we can't put it out, like that's why I just 1:10:32.360 --> 1:10:35.160 put the instrumental on the on the B side of 1:10:35.240 --> 1:10:45.240 the twelve. Wow. 1:10:47.840 --> 1:10:50.920 When did y'all know you had something with Dwick? Like, 1:10:51.000 --> 1:10:53.560 I mean immediately when that ship came out when we 1:10:53.680 --> 1:10:56.040 finished it. It was crazy because, like I said, duve 1:10:56.200 --> 1:10:59.840 C is from the West Coast, wearing scullies. 1:10:59.280 --> 1:11:02.880 All the heat of it West Cyde Connection and House 1:11:03.320 --> 1:11:07.960 and west Side, the Crypto, Crypto and Khakis and and 1:11:08.160 --> 1:11:10.519 Pendleton's all hot and I'm just like, yo, you ain't 1:11:10.560 --> 1:11:12.680 hot and all that stuff, because that's how it is 1:11:12.760 --> 1:11:13.439 in the West Coast. 1:11:13.680 --> 1:11:15.320 And that's how I learned about the West Coast. This 1:11:15.360 --> 1:11:18.599 is nineteen eighty nine. Master Ace had just joined our 1:11:19.439 --> 1:11:22.000 Mass States was heaving doing the car show stuff on 1:11:22.040 --> 1:11:24.120 the West. I knew sul Night already back then it's 1:11:24.160 --> 1:11:28.080 eighty nine. I shouldn't Bobby he was, and he was. 1:11:28.200 --> 1:11:29.640 He was hanging over the. 1:11:32.240 --> 1:11:32.360 Man. 1:11:32.560 --> 1:11:35.080 So I was there with JJ FAD, the n w A, 1:11:35.200 --> 1:11:37.479 all that stuff, Me and Heasy. He came to the 1:11:37.520 --> 1:11:41.080 first Game Star release party in nineteen eighty nine. Did 1:11:41.120 --> 1:11:47.080 you want the pictures now? Yeah, the recipes to so 1:11:47.600 --> 1:11:50.040 we met them back in eighty nine, so killed you 1:11:50.120 --> 1:11:53.080 know what for dove c to be there back then? 1:11:53.240 --> 1:11:55.040 That shows you we go to and recipes of his 1:11:55.160 --> 1:11:56.320 brother who passed on. 1:11:56.400 --> 1:11:59.840 January, Ice Cubes, DJ Crazy Tones, that stuff. 1:12:00.200 --> 1:12:03.439 Yeah, when we set them off right, and we had 1:12:03.479 --> 1:12:05.559 an incredible homegoing service and. 1:12:06.760 --> 1:12:08.080 Your family reunion. 1:12:08.280 --> 1:12:10.240 Man, seeing all these West Coast on from King t 1:12:10.880 --> 1:12:13.320 and then seeing you know, Chuck d n l L 1:12:13.520 --> 1:12:15.479 there and everybody and and you know. 1:12:15.960 --> 1:12:18.320 Just every artist and hip hop family. 1:12:19.400 --> 1:12:22.000 It was so packed and and they just did it right, 1:12:22.080 --> 1:12:24.160 you know what I'm saying, playing dope music in the church, 1:12:24.520 --> 1:12:27.080 playing flashlight and doing a whole collage of all the 1:12:27.120 --> 1:12:29.400 people he's been around on a video screen. 1:12:29.960 --> 1:12:31.519 And and and then even when it did. 1:12:31.439 --> 1:12:35.960 To everybody's on site, the shows tunes throwing up the 1:12:36.160 --> 1:12:39.320 w looking up to the st with with clouds. 1:12:38.880 --> 1:12:41.479 And wings and all that stuff, and I was like, yo, man, 1:12:42.200 --> 1:12:43.400 you see he's trying to get. 1:12:48.760 --> 1:12:49.120 That was it? 1:12:51.439 --> 1:12:54.640 June. You're fifty. You're very smart about how you do 1:12:54.800 --> 1:12:56.040 things on TV. 1:13:03.320 --> 1:13:05.760 We we are with two of the best producers of 1:13:05.920 --> 1:13:10.000 all the best in my best and I'm going to 1:13:10.040 --> 1:13:11.200 celebrate you guys life. 1:13:11.560 --> 1:13:13.320 Hey man, I'm going to get team. 1:13:13.800 --> 1:13:17.040 I can't believe, like I continue, I got to come 1:13:17.120 --> 1:13:19.519 back and look a little black absolutely because it's twenty 1:13:19.600 --> 1:13:21.680 five million. But you know what the crazy shi it 1:13:21.840 --> 1:13:26.600 is is this guy is a vinyl guy. He's a 1:13:26.960 --> 1:13:32.519 real hip hot person. I am a hip hop person. 1:13:32.840 --> 1:13:37.200 For us to come together and want to commemorate hip hop, 1:13:37.439 --> 1:13:39.120 thissolute hip hop and for. 1:13:39.240 --> 1:13:42.400 It to get twenty five million, man for picking it 1:13:42.479 --> 1:13:52.800 out CBS, CBS first, BBS first, and then Coming home 1:13:54.720 --> 1:13:59.760 Man coming here May. I thought, when you go you 1:13:59.840 --> 1:14:01.840 go to LA, you gotta le's beak of your premier. 1:14:02.120 --> 1:14:05.599 No, I'm doing screening screening at the LA Film School 1:14:06.600 --> 1:14:10.160 March ninth, but March twenty third on Revolt Airs is 1:14:10.240 --> 1:14:13.439 the premier Coming Home Vietnam. I'm going to different countries 1:14:13.479 --> 1:14:14.360 and exploring hip hop. 1:14:16.560 --> 1:14:19.240 The dope thing is, I've been watching Drink Drink Chances 1:14:19.240 --> 1:14:23.280 for a minute. You don't feel like you're lighting it up. 1:14:24.040 --> 1:14:28.720 I've been checking a minute, and Uh, it's just ill. 1:14:28.920 --> 1:14:33.320 How how the two of y'all are from really different, 1:14:33.600 --> 1:14:37.040 totally different directions. I've known Nord from the streets, like 1:14:37.200 --> 1:14:41.920 we've been streeting for so long, right, I've seen him 1:14:41.920 --> 1:14:48.200 elevate from the street level of rhymen to the sharper. 1:14:48.120 --> 1:14:49.360 Version of writing rhymes. 1:14:50.000 --> 1:14:52.160 Even when you and Bubby had joke rama and then 1:14:52.200 --> 1:14:54.439 we end up doing a record together and. 1:14:54.760 --> 1:14:57.840 Me and together, and even when that happened, it wasn't 1:14:57.840 --> 1:14:59.439 even a dish. He was just like, yo, I'm a 1:14:59.600 --> 1:15:00.400 band of GNY. 1:15:00.880 --> 1:15:05.120 He didn't want him to elevate and fan and where 1:15:05.240 --> 1:15:09.600 everybody knows bumping Freddie Fox and being where he is 1:15:09.800 --> 1:15:13.720 more into. There's certain people he's attracted to for what 1:15:13.840 --> 1:15:17.240 they represented, and he loves no more than the same. 1:15:17.360 --> 1:15:21.240 See as a person, A big, big fan of Big 1:15:22.240 --> 1:15:23.560 Big because he pushed me. 1:15:23.640 --> 1:15:26.360 He told me from the beginning, like if he had 1:15:26.840 --> 1:15:28.479 mentioned my name on the record, they told me like 1:15:29.360 --> 1:15:31.200 I just I don't want you to say what but 1:15:31.800 --> 1:15:34.639 I'm gonna be honest, I keep it one. 1:15:36.400 --> 1:15:41.320 When I recorded to with the right, that's how I 1:15:41.439 --> 1:15:44.360 used to count bars. I used to say, what what 1:15:44.600 --> 1:15:44.920 what what? 1:15:45.160 --> 1:15:49.680 What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? 1:15:49.920 --> 1:15:50.160 What what? 1:15:51.560 --> 1:15:57.559 I'm from the resource from education child. 1:16:00.680 --> 1:16:01.639 I told for real. 1:16:01.760 --> 1:16:05.479 I said, they're gonna lave it. He said, that's the hook. 1:16:06.120 --> 1:16:10.120 But he was a h He was because the game 1:16:10.240 --> 1:16:12.519 was taking up the ones like when I said what 1:16:12.680 --> 1:16:12.960 what what? 1:16:13.160 --> 1:16:13.200 What? 1:16:13.320 --> 1:16:13.360 What? 1:16:13.720 --> 1:16:16.160 So what I wanted it? All he did was muted. 1:16:16.920 --> 1:16:19.120 And then so I gotta give it to morell. 1:16:21.560 --> 1:16:22.000 You did that. 1:16:22.439 --> 1:16:25.040 So now when you listen to it, you hear and 1:16:25.160 --> 1:16:26.360 you say what what what? 1:16:26.600 --> 1:16:28.040 What? What? What? What? What? 1:16:29.760 --> 1:16:31.760 But yeah, this day you don't even got to go 1:16:31.800 --> 1:16:34.080 to the verse. That is the club. 1:16:34.800 --> 1:16:35.000 Yeah. 1:16:37.360 --> 1:16:40.240 And what I was trying to say was when I 1:16:40.439 --> 1:16:42.960 did it, I felt what Bumpy felt. 1:16:43.680 --> 1:16:46.639 That's why I never took it personal, because I felt 1:16:47.120 --> 1:16:48.800 I told for I said it for real. 1:16:50.000 --> 1:16:50.479 We need is. 1:16:51.560 --> 1:16:53.519 I said, oh, we need is because you know from 1:16:53.520 --> 1:16:58.000 the research room. So you know, I'm sorry, said and 1:16:58.120 --> 1:17:01.760 he said relax. We didn't say relax, but in my mind, 1:17:02.040 --> 1:17:08.840 he said, I will never forget it. We were in 1:17:08.880 --> 1:17:12.200 the Right Track Recording Studios. His chain was choking him. 1:17:16.000 --> 1:17:21.240 I told Choker, like, you gotta release because it was 1:17:21.320 --> 1:17:24.400 just so tight on this licking. I love him, he 1:17:24.520 --> 1:17:25.800 love he knows I love for. 1:17:29.000 --> 1:17:29.160 Real. 1:17:31.040 --> 1:17:34.720 I'm very upset, but I love you for me and 1:17:34.800 --> 1:17:40.400 mister Lee kicks. So I remember, I'm going upstairs, I 1:17:40.479 --> 1:17:43.960 would saying, you remember right track, youmember. So I went 1:17:44.080 --> 1:17:46.240 upstairs and I said, all we need is a hook 1:17:46.280 --> 1:17:49.000 and we good, And he said we got the hook already, 1:17:50.000 --> 1:17:52.080 and I looked at him. I was like, because I 1:17:52.200 --> 1:17:58.200 had previously did that on every other record before, Joe. 1:17:58.360 --> 1:18:01.080 The first time I heard you were t O, N 1:18:01.320 --> 1:18:05.400 Y and and just the whole bo It's like, that's 1:18:05.439 --> 1:18:08.120 your stamp, that no one of those owners that you 1:18:08.200 --> 1:18:11.120 are owner. But that's the reason why I got it. 1:18:11.560 --> 1:18:14.760 I gotta give it because he was the nigga like 1:18:14.840 --> 1:18:15.639 I did that ass. 1:18:15.560 --> 1:18:19.479 Ball because you remember back then. You gotta remember back then. 1:18:20.120 --> 1:18:27.880 We couldn't punch in recorded the roll record in one day, No, 1:18:28.400 --> 1:18:30.080 and it want to punch in even. 1:18:32.160 --> 1:18:39.240 No punching it, you know, proud, but listen, I'll be 1:18:39.320 --> 1:18:41.160 fifty one March twenty first. 1:18:46.080 --> 1:18:48.200 So pree, So I did this ship. 1:18:49.040 --> 1:18:51.360 That's how I always recorded my records. 1:18:51.520 --> 1:18:53.360 Was all the way too, because remember we had the 1:18:53.400 --> 1:18:57.439 eight year Hrails back then two inch get two inchel 1:19:02.600 --> 1:19:03.600 whatever you think it was. 1:19:03.640 --> 1:19:09.479 It was, so I was trained to just lay everything 1:19:09.600 --> 1:19:12.439 all together. So I came out and then he had 1:19:12.479 --> 1:19:13.200 the girl come in. 1:19:13.439 --> 1:19:16.080 And then the girl was saying, which is not callous 1:19:16.120 --> 1:19:21.000 because everybody everybody thinks it's not. Everybody thought it was 1:19:21.880 --> 1:19:26.160 its getting what she was around during that time. Yeah, 1:19:26.200 --> 1:19:27.240 but everybody thought was it. 1:19:28.520 --> 1:19:32.960 I'm so sorry I forgot Remember tammy is definitely a tammy. 1:19:33.000 --> 1:19:38.600 Sounds like that was something like that, right, That was 1:19:38.640 --> 1:19:42.759 an that time that that we were all cool, khalise, 1:19:43.040 --> 1:19:44.320 but look so crazy. 1:19:44.479 --> 1:19:47.320 I come back out and I'll say, yo, praps, all 1:19:47.360 --> 1:19:49.600 we need is to hook and we've done and he 1:19:49.720 --> 1:19:53.160 said he god don And I said, where. 1:19:53.080 --> 1:19:53.360 Is it a? 1:19:54.439 --> 1:19:58.960 And then he played what they're gonna laugh at me? 1:19:59.800 --> 1:20:02.519 When Reddy Fox name at me? He's like, I don't 1:20:02.560 --> 1:20:03.320 want to hit it? 1:20:03.400 --> 1:20:03.960 What what? What? 1:20:04.640 --> 1:20:08.920 But he didn't know that was it literally wasn't me. 1:20:09.080 --> 1:20:11.560 So I was literally mad, mona, what's going on? 1:20:11.880 --> 1:20:17.080 Because the monad the drink chance God damn it on 1:20:17.280 --> 1:20:19.559 him in my mind. 1:20:21.160 --> 1:20:21.400 Shout. 1:20:24.080 --> 1:20:29.400 So now listen, you guys see hip hop. You worked 1:20:29.479 --> 1:20:34.800 with Cool Rest in Peace, you worked with C. L. 1:20:34.920 --> 1:20:39.120 Simon Heavy, Now Heavens. 1:20:39.439 --> 1:20:45.320 I'm going there. So now what makes y'all say I'm 1:20:45.400 --> 1:20:47.360 going to work with people outside? 1:20:48.680 --> 1:20:48.840 Oh? 1:20:49.400 --> 1:20:53.840 Because the thing about hip hop back then was one 1:20:53.960 --> 1:20:57.560 producer did the whole album. I'm wonder I'm working on 1:20:57.680 --> 1:20:59.960 going back to that one producer did the whole. 1:21:00.360 --> 1:21:06.960 Now you've got you, you got Illmatic where it's Pete Rock, Premier, 1:21:07.800 --> 1:21:12.559 Tip Large, Professor l E. S. Then you go into 1:21:12.800 --> 1:21:17.040 at the big big. 1:21:21.240 --> 1:21:24.720 LP. Yeah, Lord for neess Uh. 1:21:25.800 --> 1:21:29.120 So what makes y'all what makes y'all say I'm gonna 1:21:29.120 --> 1:21:31.439 work with people outside of my group? 1:21:32.120 --> 1:21:35.320 Because we're not just We're just not in a hip 1:21:35.360 --> 1:21:38.599 hop box. We're in a music box, and the music. 1:21:38.479 --> 1:21:43.160 Box has all styles that we appreciate based. 1:21:42.880 --> 1:21:44.000 On the cloth. 1:21:44.120 --> 1:21:47.200 We're cut from a pioneers that opened the door and 1:21:47.360 --> 1:21:54.160 we're goinning fire. James Brown BOUTSI the whole Parliament from Adomph. Yeah, 1:21:54.280 --> 1:21:57.840 just on any of that from parlet brids and anything 1:21:57.880 --> 1:22:00.880 Boots anything, Parliament, anything, George anything. 1:22:00.760 --> 1:22:02.880 That's an era after James Brown. 1:22:03.000 --> 1:22:06.720 That's so funky, you know, like like that, that's a 1:22:06.920 --> 1:22:09.639 funk that they ain't never funk. Like he said, funk 1:22:09.760 --> 1:22:11.800 not only moves they can remove. 1:22:12.520 --> 1:22:14.000 We come from that, you know. 1:22:14.160 --> 1:22:17.320 So Aretha Franklin, Natalie Cold, Gladys Knight and the Pips, 1:22:18.160 --> 1:22:20.880 Curtis Mayfield, all that stuff, and Mac and all that stuff. 1:22:21.520 --> 1:22:22.680 That's my childhood. 1:22:23.080 --> 1:22:25.040 I don't know about no hip hop to hippie and 1:22:25.080 --> 1:22:28.000 hippie I'm on that. I'm seeing my mom playing back 1:22:28.080 --> 1:22:34.240 to Yeah, Donad Rose anything, Amotown, Tamla, Gordy Soul Records, 1:22:34.520 --> 1:22:35.200 any of that stuff. 1:22:35.640 --> 1:22:37.519 My mama tried to get you hit one more time, 1:22:38.200 --> 1:22:42.880 drink Champs, God damn you want to make it smoke. 1:22:43.880 --> 1:22:50.400 He ross the roster, roster, saying, why why. 1:22:50.840 --> 1:22:57.640 My child his platform shoes, Afros this big afrosine commercials. 1:22:57.680 --> 1:22:58.360 But Johnson and. 1:23:01.640 --> 1:23:05.960 Good Times, the Jeffersons, all in the family. You know, 1:23:06.200 --> 1:23:12.280 the monsters. That's my monsters. That yeah, remember that's my Yeah, 1:23:12.920 --> 1:23:15.040 I'm gonna throw something in there. What's happening? 1:23:15.160 --> 1:23:16.720 That's my my era, A. 1:23:18.680 --> 1:23:22.080 Rock and stuff, all that, you know, all that. Yeah, 1:23:22.479 --> 1:23:26.680 roller skating, we run, we run, That's what I know. 1:23:27.680 --> 1:23:29.080 This is no rapping and scratching. 1:23:29.160 --> 1:23:34.479 Yet, what is Peak Rock's favorite studio session all these years? 1:23:34.880 --> 1:23:38.759 My favorite studio session that I've ever had was probably 1:23:38.840 --> 1:23:42.200 had been with Run DMC, down with the. 1:23:43.880 --> 1:23:50.759 Ship with the King, down with the light. That's problem 1:23:51.439 --> 1:23:59.840 was you know the Brasy that's the owner of this club, 1:24:00.520 --> 1:24:02.240 and he's not gonna like and we got to like. 1:24:05.600 --> 1:24:05.720 Yo. 1:24:06.360 --> 1:24:09.720 We were on a gang start tour last day and 1:24:10.320 --> 1:24:13.280 Writ and Run called us and said, hurry. 1:24:13.120 --> 1:24:15.400 Up and get hit on the twenty five million streets. 1:24:15.400 --> 1:24:17.519 Why was I like one that we did not and 1:24:17.600 --> 1:24:28.560 we did not make it? It been perfect and we 1:24:28.680 --> 1:24:30.559 came over the wall was and everybody was. 1:24:30.600 --> 1:24:31.680 Gone, damn. You know. 1:24:31.720 --> 1:24:35.200 I gave CBS this idea though, come on, bro, I 1:24:35.280 --> 1:24:40.080 give him that idea. You gotta relax. Gave him I said, 1:24:40.080 --> 1:24:41.479 we need a streamer in the plaque. 1:24:42.760 --> 1:24:45.559 We sat on the podcast buddy, We just said podcast, 1:24:46.280 --> 1:24:47.320 I gotta go with you events. 1:24:49.320 --> 1:24:54.640 He feels more sober than me. Yeah, I don't know 1:24:54.680 --> 1:24:55.080 if it's. 1:24:55.000 --> 1:24:55.720 A d J thing. 1:24:55.960 --> 1:24:59.240 Yes, yes, you can do about We have a memory. 1:25:01.200 --> 1:25:03.400 Jay Z saw me one day. Jay Z said you, 1:25:03.439 --> 1:25:04.840 I'm gonna call you memory man. 1:25:05.640 --> 1:25:09.040 You remember every show you're seeing jay Z and he'll go, 1:25:09.920 --> 1:25:12.040 but you remember this time, I'll say, I remember we 1:25:12.120 --> 1:25:16.040 were and we were in Paris. Were at a show 1:25:16.160 --> 1:25:18.080 like two in the morning, and he was doing the 1:25:18.200 --> 1:25:21.080 uh this after the justin tim latour and watch the throwne. 1:25:21.360 --> 1:25:23.800 He was doing a Holy Grail tour. We found out 1:25:23.840 --> 1:25:26.639 he was in town me and Keebler or wherever Keybler 1:25:26.720 --> 1:25:28.519 is at. I said, y'all want to go see jay 1:25:28.560 --> 1:25:30.720 Z before him reach out. That's when he was still 1:25:30.840 --> 1:25:32.559 talking you no, no, in Paris. 1:25:33.479 --> 1:25:36.280 In Paris, and we got a little a couple of 1:25:36.320 --> 1:25:38.479 little timas. I want to go to the show. I 1:25:38.600 --> 1:25:40.600 reached out to the proper people and they was like, yo, 1:25:40.680 --> 1:25:42.280 Jam and Dad when he was a John and Neely. 1:25:44.000 --> 1:25:46.160 Reached out to John and Neely he's handling everything. I 1:25:46.240 --> 1:25:48.280 reached out to John, send him an email, and I'm like, 1:25:48.280 --> 1:25:48.840 I'm out of here. 1:25:49.080 --> 1:25:50.080 Anyway we can go to the show. 1:25:50.080 --> 1:25:52.280 I'm thinking I ain't gonna respond, and thing blipped in 1:25:52.360 --> 1:25:54.679 like two men's He said, Yo, there's gonna be passes 1:25:54.720 --> 1:25:57.080 waiting for you all access come backstage and I'm gonna 1:25:57.080 --> 1:25:57.680 have a spot for you. 1:26:01.560 --> 1:26:01.960 I'm sorry. 1:26:02.479 --> 1:26:05.760 As soon as we go backstage after the show, because 1:26:05.800 --> 1:26:07.080 Timblin was d dan Form. 1:26:07.479 --> 1:26:10.360 We go back stage after the show. Jay Z goes, 1:26:11.280 --> 1:26:14.479 all right, well remember you got this time? Hey, could 1:26:14.479 --> 1:26:18.479 I'm introduce him to the Keepler, my tour man. He goes, yeah, 1:26:18.560 --> 1:26:22.760 he said, He's like, how you doing, He's like, how 1:26:22.760 --> 1:26:24.400 you doing? Keep it nice to meet you. He'll know 1:26:24.479 --> 1:26:25.599 what you got memory this time? 1:26:25.720 --> 1:26:28.720 I said, you met Keebler Before he goes, oh no, 1:26:30.240 --> 1:26:36.280 I said, we were at Battery Baseline Studios and Loupe 1:26:36.439 --> 1:26:40.360 Fiasco was auditioning for you and he had on a 1:26:40.560 --> 1:26:41.160 big chain. 1:26:41.240 --> 1:26:43.479 This is on Lupe Avasco had a big chain home 1:26:43.520 --> 1:26:45.400 with a big medalla, which he would never do. Right now. 1:26:45.479 --> 1:26:47.599 He was rapping for you know none that he needs 1:26:47.680 --> 1:26:51.040 much more focus on another level. But Loop fans come on, 1:26:51.120 --> 1:26:55.160 Drink Champs going up. Man Homie shot shot the first 1:26:55.200 --> 1:26:55.719 and fifteen. 1:26:56.400 --> 1:27:00.160 So he goes, he's the auditioning for Jay Jasons all 1:27:00.200 --> 1:27:03.559 these rhymes. Louey puts on a beat in the CD player. 1:27:03.960 --> 1:27:08.639 The CD starts to go, you know when they loop 1:27:08.840 --> 1:27:15.200 goes and and then it finally stops skipping, goes back 1:27:15.240 --> 1:27:21.280 into the rhymes. Right there, Jay goos, I totally. 1:27:21.040 --> 1:27:25.519 Remember that day. Next you know him and keep off 1:27:25.560 --> 1:27:28.559 in the corner talking about sports, you know, make some noise. 1:27:31.240 --> 1:27:36.240 Now here's the deal. Like when I interview people, I 1:27:36.439 --> 1:27:39.320 like to, you know, dig into their life. When I 1:27:39.479 --> 1:27:42.800 know the people, the people, I don't dig into their 1:27:42.880 --> 1:27:44.000 like because I know them are rent. 1:27:44.200 --> 1:27:47.879 Both of you guys, I know already. I know exactly 1:27:47.920 --> 1:27:48.600 what to ask you. 1:27:48.720 --> 1:27:53.360 But the thing about y'all which surprised me is y'all 1:27:53.479 --> 1:27:56.920 both come and y'all both do your own sound check. 1:27:58.840 --> 1:28:06.240 Mandatory and so man as always would. I always think like, 1:28:06.520 --> 1:28:08.720 you guys have a DJ, but he'll do. 1:28:09.280 --> 1:28:12.920 We were talking about this me and Yeah, was so like, 1:28:13.360 --> 1:28:20.240 he's like DJ, that sounds that we've done, Joe, And 1:28:20.320 --> 1:28:22.479 I'm like, yo, make sure to heaven everything. 1:28:22.479 --> 1:28:28.400 He's gonna make it right. Fixed the speakers somehow they 1:28:28.439 --> 1:28:31.760 got a bump. They gotta do sound check. I don't care. 1:28:32.200 --> 1:28:35.959 Even if I don't get get to eat sleep, I'm starving, 1:28:37.000 --> 1:28:41.240 take a nap. I will not miss sound they produced. 1:28:41.240 --> 1:28:44.000 It got to be right because a lot of festivals 1:28:44.040 --> 1:28:47.280 you gotta just plug in check. I'm like, Yo, it's 1:28:47.320 --> 1:28:50.240 gotta bang, and I'm gonna deliver what you paid to 1:28:50.400 --> 1:28:53.120 get to get what you paid for. You you're gonna 1:28:53.120 --> 1:28:54.360 pay to get me again, and you. 1:28:54.360 --> 1:28:56.320 Want your beat to be hurt, right, so you don't 1:28:56.400 --> 1:29:01.519 never see like your assistant or nobody you. You said, 1:29:01.560 --> 1:29:03.400 we'll check it again before we start tonight. 1:29:04.360 --> 1:29:07.880 But other than that, now I got outside, I want 1:29:07.960 --> 1:29:09.400 to even see the rock the room looks like, so 1:29:09.400 --> 1:29:11.920 I already have a picture of what I'm stepping into 1:29:12.000 --> 1:29:13.000 when the crowd is here. 1:29:13.160 --> 1:29:15.599 But you gotta let the man do what you gotta 1:29:15.640 --> 1:29:18.439 do if you want to do it. He wanted to 1:29:18.520 --> 1:29:18.720 do it. 1:29:23.479 --> 1:29:26.720 I said, if if free mooted in, he was like yo, 1:29:26.880 --> 1:29:29.320 he said, he said, you did, stayed there? 1:29:29.439 --> 1:29:30.040 I would. 1:29:31.760 --> 1:29:35.720 He know that. 1:29:35.960 --> 1:29:38.320 I just still love him open up for himself. 1:29:38.400 --> 1:29:40.439 He would have. He would have, dude, he would have 1:29:40.520 --> 1:29:42.400 done another hour. And we were like, yo, peak, come on, 1:29:42.840 --> 1:29:44.720 it's not even a bad thing. And I was like, 1:29:44.840 --> 1:29:45.760 your peak, come on. 1:29:46.360 --> 1:29:48.320 We've been on the road where I'll get mad and 1:29:48.439 --> 1:29:52.360 nothing in a bad way. He's like, Pete, I'm at 1:29:52.439 --> 1:29:53.040 the record store. 1:29:53.160 --> 1:29:53.599 He forgot. 1:29:53.640 --> 1:29:56.719 We were here in Tokyo one time and we're about 1:29:56.720 --> 1:30:00.680 to miss our plane, and he goes, I gotta get 1:30:00.720 --> 1:30:01.240 this record. 1:30:01.600 --> 1:30:05.200 We're like, y'all I'm not missing my plane for you, especially. 1:30:04.880 --> 1:30:07.240 On the day you're finally going home, and you know, 1:30:07.280 --> 1:30:08.760 the day you're going home, you're just so ready to 1:30:08.800 --> 1:30:09.360 go back home. 1:30:09.760 --> 1:30:12.880 And we've been out for like a week in another country, 1:30:13.240 --> 1:30:14.040 and he's like, yo. 1:30:14.000 --> 1:30:16.720 I gotta get this record. I'm like, dogs, if we 1:30:17.160 --> 1:30:19.960 do not make this plane because of you, we're gonna 1:30:20.000 --> 1:30:22.599 be And that's actually how the whole Pee Rock versus 1:30:22.720 --> 1:30:25.920 Premier things started because of that day we got on 1:30:26.000 --> 1:30:27.720 the Butther said, you know what, man, we need to 1:30:27.760 --> 1:30:29.439 make an album where we can get our attention now 1:30:29.520 --> 1:30:31.880 to make the album going at each other, making hill 1:30:32.280 --> 1:30:33.040 y'all doing the album. 1:30:33.360 --> 1:30:35.559 We're going to do an album called pe p VP 1:30:36.080 --> 1:30:40.479 Pete Goddamn the hats the record that record? Are we 1:30:40.600 --> 1:30:46.080 doing that? You're about a half right recommend with due. Yeah, 1:30:46.080 --> 1:30:47.920 I have a website that just carries the hats. 1:30:48.560 --> 1:30:52.080 Now say the website again, Premiere was here dot com 1:30:53.320 --> 1:30:55.439 dot com to and just go to the shop section. 1:30:57.200 --> 1:31:01.479 It has all of it has all official Gangshow products, 1:31:01.800 --> 1:31:04.479 all official Guru products, all official Premier products. 1:31:04.760 --> 1:31:08.400 And me and Peach share the hats and we have green, red, blue, 1:31:08.479 --> 1:31:09.559 black and black. 1:31:09.640 --> 1:31:12.280 We have too, so what happened when y'all saw this 1:31:12.439 --> 1:31:18.920 battle individually? Know I'm talking about when y'all saw the 1:31:19.080 --> 1:31:19.720 Just Blade and. 1:31:20.720 --> 1:31:23.960 Everybody, honestly everybody, we don't acting like that was the 1:31:24.040 --> 1:31:26.559 first battle and side you know what because we've been 1:31:26.600 --> 1:31:27.479 doing it so much. 1:31:28.160 --> 1:31:29.840 Yeah, it was more like, all right, cool, and this 1:31:29.960 --> 1:31:31.240 ain't their first battle together. 1:31:31.280 --> 1:31:33.800 They've done it before. No, no, not, this is the 1:31:33.920 --> 1:31:40.000 first one. Kanye. It's not drink chance because but it's 1:31:40.040 --> 1:31:46.639 not drink Kanye. Y'alls is like y'alls is like migrating. 1:31:47.200 --> 1:31:49.160 But the next day they started posting that me and 1:31:49.240 --> 1:31:51.479 you need to doing I'm like, we've been doing you've. 1:31:51.320 --> 1:31:51.840 Been doing it. 1:31:51.920 --> 1:31:53.560 It's like, y'all miss you need to do you know 1:31:53.680 --> 1:31:56.120 my hip hop and story and I know, but what 1:31:56.280 --> 1:31:58.360 did you What was your first. 1:31:58.200 --> 1:32:01.479 Thing when you when you heard the day battle and Swiss, 1:32:01.720 --> 1:32:07.040 I have the phone? Where's my phone at you to come? 1:32:07.400 --> 1:32:13.080 Yes, okay, we believe it. Actually, while we're waiting, I forgot, 1:32:13.320 --> 1:32:19.240 I got you. We got y'all man Drink Clod and nine. 1:32:19.479 --> 1:32:28.920 I remember when you did the remix to again Me. 1:32:29.560 --> 1:32:36.599 I got damn. I don't know, but uh it's from 1:32:36.640 --> 1:32:38.720 the perspective of what we think is hot. And I 1:32:38.800 --> 1:32:42.400 remember when you did the remix to uh those calling 1:32:42.520 --> 1:32:45.240 I picking up those you did what uh? 1:32:45.880 --> 1:32:45.920 What? 1:32:46.120 --> 1:32:46.240 Uh? 1:32:46.600 --> 1:32:49.680 What's the name city boy D? Look at you know 1:32:50.680 --> 1:33:02.000 element you did a you gotta stop? Definitely know you 1:33:02.080 --> 1:33:09.080 know past to me now, Yes, yes, yes, I play, 1:33:10.520 --> 1:33:11.360 I said the Diego. 1:33:13.400 --> 1:33:17.200 I played your your version more than fast Chapter Fab 1:33:17.400 --> 1:33:21.720 figure because Fat Fab is a dope lyricist and knows 1:33:21.760 --> 1:33:24.760 how to do club records, radio records and still have 1:33:24.920 --> 1:33:27.280 a really clever way of writing his rhymes. 1:33:27.960 --> 1:33:28.479 Love Fab. 1:33:28.560 --> 1:33:31.320 I'm a big fan of his, but your version fit 1:33:31.560 --> 1:33:35.160 more of the format of what I represent the most grimiest, 1:33:37.040 --> 1:33:39.920 like you said, no clean shoes, no hot I don't like. 1:33:40.080 --> 1:33:41.559 Your version was the one I played. 1:33:42.240 --> 1:33:45.080 So it's we're We're on every Friday night from Tempi 1:33:45.160 --> 1:33:48.800 on the midnight serious light radio Channel forty four. 1:33:48.880 --> 1:33:54.120 Hip my Nation, and uh, what I represent is the 1:33:54.320 --> 1:33:58.599 era of the eighties with Morley mal Red alerts, chill out. 1:33:58.560 --> 1:34:04.320 Also to my just yeah just shut just In the 1:34:04.439 --> 1:34:07.960 two thousand ear or whatever year we're in, I still 1:34:08.080 --> 1:34:09.760 keep it to that. And there's so many artists that 1:34:09.840 --> 1:34:13.040 have hot stuff out that will never get played anywhere else. 1:34:13.120 --> 1:34:15.360 So I'm like, I'll play it, send it to me 1:34:15.479 --> 1:34:17.240 if I like it, and it's on that that level, 1:34:17.520 --> 1:34:21.439 it's gonna get broken. And that way, not only do 1:34:21.560 --> 1:34:24.760 you trust me, you also start to focus on you 1:34:24.840 --> 1:34:26.920 know what, if he's playing it, it's gotta be real. 1:34:27.800 --> 1:34:30.040 And that's really what it is. So all of that 1:34:30.200 --> 1:34:30.680 truth that. 1:34:32.920 --> 1:34:40.240 The just blaze Swiss Beast. So it happens, I'm on 1:34:40.320 --> 1:34:42.720 my way to the show and Swiss is texting me saying, Yo, 1:34:42.880 --> 1:34:44.800 I'd like you to come check this out. Put my 1:34:44.840 --> 1:34:47.360 shows off ten to midnight. It's starting at ten o'clock. 1:34:47.840 --> 1:34:49.439 He's like, Yo, man, I really like it. And now 1:34:49.439 --> 1:34:51.479 I would have gone definitely. I definitely would have gone. 1:34:51.520 --> 1:34:54.519 But I'm not abandoned my show because again, it's live. 1:34:54.520 --> 1:34:55.759 It's not previous pre recorded. 1:34:55.920 --> 1:35:00.840 Cool. Live is a whole different animal. Five is when 1:35:01.000 --> 1:35:05.160 you have when I scripted nothing, We just roll, you 1:35:05.240 --> 1:35:05.760 know what I'm saying. 1:35:06.240 --> 1:35:09.160 And when it comes to how we do it, everything 1:35:09.320 --> 1:35:12.439 just flows from minute to minute, second to second, beat 1:35:12.520 --> 1:35:17.160 to beat, voice to voice on just the realness of 1:35:17.240 --> 1:35:20.080 hip hop from my perspective. So when it came to 1:35:20.479 --> 1:35:24.760 Swiss Beats and uh, just Blade doing doing the show. 1:35:25.200 --> 1:35:28.120 As soon as I got off the air, I checked 1:35:28.160 --> 1:35:29.040 my Instagram and. 1:35:29.080 --> 1:35:31.640 Saw they were live. I went to Swiss Beats, I 1:35:31.760 --> 1:35:32.360 clicked on it. 1:35:33.120 --> 1:35:35.160 I want to see my man DJ Rectangle, who's one 1:35:35.200 --> 1:35:39.160 of the dopest battle dude ever give me the scratch Vinyl. 1:35:40.320 --> 1:35:43.240 I go to his show to watch him do a 1:35:43.800 --> 1:35:46.880 party gig, and I'm in there with my phone going 1:35:50.080 --> 1:35:53.360 yeah in the morning, I'm like, just still on from 1:35:53.439 --> 1:35:57.080 ten oclas, Yeah, and I'm doing this looking at him 1:35:57.080 --> 1:35:57.479 a little bit. 1:36:00.080 --> 1:36:01.880 They switch it over now just got the big. 1:36:06.800 --> 1:36:07.400 And the guy. 1:36:09.520 --> 1:36:12.320 Said, yo, just playing them still battling. It's almost two 1:36:12.360 --> 1:36:13.840 in the morning and I'm. 1:36:13.680 --> 1:36:16.559 Sitting there doing this in a corner in the club 1:36:16.600 --> 1:36:20.560 where it looks like I'm like a sore thumb, but 1:36:20.680 --> 1:36:22.800 I'm like, no, I'm watching and check it out because 1:36:22.800 --> 1:36:25.200 i want to see what they're doing to battle because 1:36:25.200 --> 1:36:26.120 they started pulling O beas. 1:36:27.640 --> 1:36:30.439 So that's what I'm like, Will you still a fan 1:36:30.560 --> 1:36:31.519 of the culture like that? 1:36:31.920 --> 1:36:34.920 I will remain because you know why, after I guess, 1:36:35.040 --> 1:36:37.439 being from Texas, I wanted to be accepted by New 1:36:37.520 --> 1:36:40.240 York because at the time I came if New York 1:36:40.280 --> 1:36:42.120 didn't accept you. It didn't matter where you were from. 1:36:42.200 --> 1:36:45.519 And that time that acceptance. I got that acceptance from 1:36:45.560 --> 1:36:46.160 the greats. 1:36:46.600 --> 1:36:47.280 I wanted E. P. 1:36:47.439 --> 1:36:50.160 M D To love me. I wanted Big Daddy came 1:36:50.240 --> 1:36:53.800 to love me around Kim krst one, I wanted Grandmaster 1:36:53.920 --> 1:37:01.720 Flash Molly. It was me Jazz, DJ, jase J. 1:37:01.920 --> 1:37:03.360 You became Jazzy. 1:37:03.240 --> 1:37:08.040 Jeff Cash Money, d J Scratch and I just want 1:37:08.280 --> 1:37:08.760 Howie T. 1:37:10.000 --> 1:37:13.920 Give you ain't smoking? Yeah, smoke though I did earlier. No, 1:37:14.080 --> 1:37:17.760 let's just say he's earlier. It was That's not the 1:37:17.840 --> 1:37:18.960 word that was reaching. 1:37:19.080 --> 1:37:19.280 It was. 1:37:20.840 --> 1:37:21.120 Sorry. 1:37:22.680 --> 1:37:25.439 I told you fifty years old, Union State shot shot 1:37:26.080 --> 1:37:31.479 shot because it got me. Listen, this is when you 1:37:31.680 --> 1:37:36.040 know you're on point. Never has any drugs that I've 1:37:36.120 --> 1:37:41.080 ever used defeated me, and at fifty. 1:37:41.400 --> 1:37:43.640 I'm on my level. You got to take a molly, though, 1:37:43.920 --> 1:37:49.000 take a molly. This guy, Yes, that was bro dude. 1:37:49.040 --> 1:37:49.240 That was. 1:37:52.600 --> 1:37:56.360 That was That was no, no, no, no, that was 1:37:56.400 --> 1:37:58.479 eighty one when it was called black molly, and that 1:37:58.640 --> 1:38:00.920 was the own. Oh my god, this is a black molly. 1:38:01.040 --> 1:38:01.360 What the. 1:38:03.439 --> 1:38:03.920 Put us on. 1:38:05.800 --> 1:38:05.840 You? 1:38:07.600 --> 1:38:08.200 Like a black. 1:38:09.520 --> 1:38:12.560 Like all that stuff. Now it's just like that's not 1:38:13.000 --> 1:38:15.280 there's the mumble jumble stuff. Now you know what I'm saying. So, 1:38:15.840 --> 1:38:18.640 like I said, this is my high school days. So 1:38:18.720 --> 1:38:20.519 my high school days. I graduated in the high school 1:38:20.520 --> 1:38:24.400 in eighty four. Okay, And so imagine our era of 1:38:24.800 --> 1:38:27.280 getting lifted and you're looking good and we're gonna respect you. 1:38:27.479 --> 1:38:30.920 I just started training again, be black. I'm getting my 1:38:31.760 --> 1:38:33.720 You know, I love food, man, I love I love 1:38:33.920 --> 1:38:38.000 ice cream. I love hersy shot shot all that. It's 1:38:38.040 --> 1:38:41.479 the first time ice cream shout it out on the broadcast. Wait, 1:38:41.600 --> 1:38:45.200 that's all. And that's that's when you go to the 1:38:46.439 --> 1:38:47.160 ice cream. 1:38:47.160 --> 1:38:48.519 If you go to the baskeroom ride and you get 1:38:48.520 --> 1:38:50.960 treat scoops in the cup, it ain't official till you 1:38:51.040 --> 1:38:52.040 take the hersy syrup. 1:38:53.760 --> 1:38:54.800 You can't shot. 1:38:55.200 --> 1:38:57.840 Syrup when you when you make a wooler, you don't 1:38:57.880 --> 1:38:59.960 want to see no greens. Let you know, the green 1:39:00.120 --> 1:39:00.759 is in the blood. 1:39:01.360 --> 1:39:02.200 That's how you do it. 1:39:02.320 --> 1:39:02.600 Let's go. 1:39:02.960 --> 1:39:10.720 That's the level drugs, you know. So I don't I 1:39:10.880 --> 1:39:15.080 just say that they really just far from all the time. 1:39:15.080 --> 1:39:17.679 That we've lost and that we've lost to all different 1:39:17.720 --> 1:39:20.439 things from being shot, being the bad disease and eating 1:39:20.520 --> 1:39:23.880 bad health all that stuff. It let me know I'm 1:39:23.920 --> 1:39:27.439 here for a reason. Love your life and fix your 1:39:27.520 --> 1:39:29.680 life to be able to have a longer life. My 1:39:29.880 --> 1:39:36.519 parents are eighty My parents, my dad's eighty eight. They 1:39:36.800 --> 1:39:39.519 they got issues, but they still kicking. My father makes 1:39:39.600 --> 1:39:42.400 all the food. He's like, get away from say, out 1:39:42.400 --> 1:39:44.479 of my kitchen. Let me take it on my way. 1:39:45.040 --> 1:39:46.720 I want to be eighty eight doing that. But I 1:39:46.800 --> 1:39:49.320 guarantee they never did the black molly. You don't know 1:39:49.439 --> 1:39:55.519 that his way with the black molly. 1:39:55.560 --> 1:39:55.800 I'm in. 1:39:58.040 --> 1:40:03.280 When I was in high school, you have, yes, tenth 1:40:03.360 --> 1:40:09.600 grade six? Ain't man talking about black mother? When I 1:40:09.680 --> 1:40:10.240 was sixteen? 1:40:10.320 --> 1:40:14.280 And when I was sixteen, there was only one ecstasy, 1:40:15.080 --> 1:40:17.720 only one. It was wait, wait, what year is this? 1:40:18.240 --> 1:40:23.400 Nineteen eighty eighty two? That was already yeah, okay, yeah, 1:40:23.640 --> 1:40:26.200 eighty two. Ext I'm forty one. 1:40:26.560 --> 1:40:29.920 Oh damn wait that ecstasy in eighty two? What the fuck? 1:40:30.680 --> 1:40:32.120 Actually a white man name? 1:40:32.160 --> 1:40:35.960 But everybody cool over here, bro, Why. 1:40:35.920 --> 1:40:38.719 Is that a surprise? Joe dude? It was only one 1:40:39.280 --> 1:40:43.240 ecstasy was closed this uh, this would right? This would yeah? 1:40:43.520 --> 1:40:43.680 It was. 1:40:44.160 --> 1:40:47.519 It was called ecstasy, yes, but damn it wasn't popping 1:40:47.600 --> 1:40:49.880 til then. I didn't know that you weren't around during 1:40:49.920 --> 1:40:52.760 that time. This no, no, I was about you tell 1:40:52.760 --> 1:40:56.639 you one ten years older than you, so you gotta relax. 1:40:59.400 --> 1:40:59.920 Eighty one. 1:41:00.200 --> 1:41:06.960 I graduated high school in eighty four. Grag listen, listen. 1:41:07.360 --> 1:41:10.920 There was like one style of XC, one style of milley. 1:41:10.800 --> 1:41:13.720 That was it. There wasn't all twenty and there was 1:41:13.880 --> 1:41:17.320 all these that wasn't really bear and cherry cherry juice 1:41:17.400 --> 1:41:19.080 and all these funny names. 1:41:19.240 --> 1:41:22.760 And you smoke coat smoker. Cocaine was more of a 1:41:22.960 --> 1:41:24.519 smoking cocaine. Let's call it cool. 1:41:24.640 --> 1:41:29.560 It's called cracko no woola is crack and weed a 1:41:29.760 --> 1:41:32.080 cool coke and a cigarette. 1:41:32.560 --> 1:41:37.160 How you smoke it's a crack Damn well, it's yeah, yeah, 1:41:38.040 --> 1:41:40.479 seventy seven. It's all good. It's even the blackout. I 1:41:40.600 --> 1:41:45.000 was there. It was it was in my grandfather, but 1:41:45.120 --> 1:41:47.880 I was there staying with my grandfather. Turn off. 1:41:49.360 --> 1:41:52.000 But yeah, during those days, it was only one of 1:41:52.040 --> 1:41:54.479 each tide. That's why when I see what's going on now, 1:41:54.560 --> 1:41:55.840 it's like, damn man, these. 1:41:55.680 --> 1:41:59.080 People are so lost because there's all kinds of weird 1:41:59.160 --> 1:41:59.719 ship flowing. 1:41:59.720 --> 1:41:59.840 Now. 1:42:00.000 --> 1:42:01.840 Don't want to be around none of that, you know, 1:42:02.200 --> 1:42:03.360 we're around the pure. 1:42:03.439 --> 1:42:07.160 And again that that's kind of like the hippie seventies hallucinogens. 1:42:07.280 --> 1:42:09.840 It was a time and all the the the those 1:42:09.920 --> 1:42:15.360 beat is making the give the drugs a little bit 1:42:15.400 --> 1:42:15.880 of props. 1:42:17.439 --> 1:42:18.479 We have to be. 1:42:19.840 --> 1:42:23.320 You're the only guy that I feel like you got 1:42:23.400 --> 1:42:26.479 to making. 1:42:29.600 --> 1:42:29.880 Drugs. 1:42:29.960 --> 1:42:33.240 But but again, I'm glad that drink. 1:42:33.280 --> 1:42:35.639 I'm glad that I understand the concept of that era 1:42:36.160 --> 1:42:39.960 because understanding it and understanding where your cut off point is, 1:42:40.920 --> 1:42:43.280 you don't need to rehab. You reab yourself with your mind. 1:42:44.600 --> 1:42:48.760 I always said that you control of yourself. I know 1:42:48.840 --> 1:42:52.720 when control with you myself, that's too much. Go back 1:42:52.760 --> 1:42:55.840 to normal. And then that that's how people can wonder 1:42:55.960 --> 1:42:59.599 about you. But they can't say, yo, my man is lost, 1:42:59.680 --> 1:43:01.759 he's you can never say I'm gone. 1:43:02.120 --> 1:43:08.800 I'm always here. Let's make some for that now. He 1:43:08.960 --> 1:43:14.479 was recently beefing with what what Young Liggy was being. 1:43:15.600 --> 1:43:19.439 Listen from young Dog. 1:43:20.120 --> 1:43:20.640 You don't even know. 1:43:21.040 --> 1:43:24.160 I mean all of us from our time, we all 1:43:25.280 --> 1:43:30.519 describe what happened. He dissatisfied with the no, he's not, 1:43:30.680 --> 1:43:31.680 he's not. I'll say this. 1:43:31.960 --> 1:43:35.040 We avery targetment had a little listen I had a 1:43:35.040 --> 1:43:36.360 little hoosy verse situation. 1:43:36.800 --> 1:43:37.840 Oh that was you. 1:43:38.760 --> 1:43:39.200 Yeah, But. 1:43:42.080 --> 1:43:45.080 I wasn't offended by that, offended that he don't want 1:43:45.080 --> 1:43:46.479 to wrap to that if that's not what you want 1:43:46.520 --> 1:43:49.200 to wrap was massive, that's not. 1:43:49.280 --> 1:43:52.360 Really a beat. Don't make sense for him, don't make 1:43:52.400 --> 1:43:53.960 sense for him, don't make sense for him. 1:43:55.080 --> 1:43:57.960 Those gangsta you can wrap to for freestyle time out. 1:43:59.520 --> 1:44:00.559 It wasn't mass appeal. 1:44:00.960 --> 1:44:07.040 It was was from memory. Man, Sorry, I saw it too, 1:44:07.520 --> 1:44:10.760 and what happened? Describe I'm not rapping to that? So 1:44:11.160 --> 1:44:14.599 and he said, why is that break beat? So listen? 1:44:14.760 --> 1:44:17.479 He still would Twitter started blowing up on my Twitter. 1:44:18.439 --> 1:44:21.000 He started getting out of hand, everybody disting him. Then 1:44:21.160 --> 1:44:23.439 he joins in. So I watched see what he says. 1:44:23.439 --> 1:44:25.360 So I checked his traffic because I got to make 1:44:25.400 --> 1:44:28.080 sure I'm on point before I do anything. You always 1:44:28.120 --> 1:44:29.640 gotta stay focused. 1:44:29.280 --> 1:44:31.080 On being on point. I know who I am. 1:44:31.479 --> 1:44:32.720 I don't never want to be looked at as a 1:44:32.760 --> 1:44:35.280 person that got played ever and not really be looked 1:44:35.320 --> 1:44:39.240 that way. Absolutely, So when I checked the thread, I 1:44:39.400 --> 1:44:41.439 was like, yo, yeah, because it's getting out of hand. 1:44:41.640 --> 1:44:44.720 My fans are going hard on him, like yo, you 1:44:45.200 --> 1:44:48.920 know they they're doing enough with this. They want to 1:44:49.000 --> 1:44:51.960 kill him. Yeah, So I'm like, yo, I'm like, listen, 1:44:53.000 --> 1:44:55.760 big up to him. Man, he ain't get around to that. 1:44:56.160 --> 1:44:57.800 If he don't like that, he doesn't like that. That's 1:44:57.800 --> 1:45:00.720 what I put he said, then wrapped to what he 1:45:00.760 --> 1:45:02.720 feels like. It's comfortable. So that made him join in 1:45:03.080 --> 1:45:06.120 and said, yo, d m me. We damned each other. 1:45:06.160 --> 1:45:09.519 He said, listen, man, anything I can learn from you, 1:45:10.400 --> 1:45:15.680 put me on and and give me. I said, you 1:45:15.720 --> 1:45:17.800 know what, we didn't know what I said, I'm down 1:45:17.880 --> 1:45:20.559 to doing join with you. My fans may get mad, 1:45:20.760 --> 1:45:24.840 but the only nine The difference is I'm not going 1:45:24.920 --> 1:45:25.920 to make a record. 1:45:25.680 --> 1:45:28.880 That I can't let leave the studio to me and 1:45:29.080 --> 1:45:30.720 him on the same level where it say, yo, wait 1:45:30.720 --> 1:45:33.320 today you got to you gotta compromise yourself. You're gonna 1:45:33.320 --> 1:45:36.320 work no. But but that's what I like. Let me 1:45:36.400 --> 1:45:37.760 tell you something. Let me tell you something. 1:45:37.840 --> 1:45:41.760 When you work with Pream, you work with Pete, these 1:45:41.920 --> 1:45:43.840 brothers are so professional. 1:45:44.840 --> 1:45:47.519 All you gotta do is send the vocals and then relax. 1:45:49.120 --> 1:45:52.519 He told me the skills that I turned into my 1:45:52.680 --> 1:45:54.599 own skill and it's not biting them. 1:45:55.080 --> 1:45:56.600 But he's like Yo, this is how you do it. 1:45:57.400 --> 1:45:57.800 I was like. 1:45:59.360 --> 1:46:00.760 This, I say, yo, by I was like, how are 1:46:00.800 --> 1:46:03.840 you making that? I was like, how are you making 1:46:03.920 --> 1:46:08.200 the base get fuller? And mimick the sample? He said, 1:46:08.240 --> 1:46:10.400 it's the same sample, but I feel to them. I'm like, 1:46:10.439 --> 1:46:12.400 but how do you do that? And he says, come over, 1:46:12.439 --> 1:46:15.360 I'll show you, but don't show me. He showed me. 1:46:15.439 --> 1:46:19.840 I'm like, so you turn it to that same thing 1:46:19.960 --> 1:46:22.280 we have. But I never knew that part of the 1:46:22.400 --> 1:46:25.519 equipment he said, turned into that. I started doing it 1:46:25.720 --> 1:46:26.880 ex girl or the next girl. 1:46:27.920 --> 1:46:33.080 That's one of my joints rights. This reminds me of 1:46:33.160 --> 1:46:36.479 all my relationships. So when it goes in that part, 1:46:36.520 --> 1:46:41.080 where does it go? It muffled. I sent it to 1:46:41.160 --> 1:46:43.280 Pete to make sure I was doing it right. I 1:46:43.320 --> 1:46:43.880 love my wife. 1:46:44.040 --> 1:46:46.040 Sorry, I believe in myself and all that stuff, but 1:46:46.080 --> 1:46:47.400 I wanted to make sure I was doing it right. 1:46:47.439 --> 1:46:49.920 So I sent it to him for approval and I go, yo. 1:46:49.960 --> 1:46:51.840 Did I do it right? He goes, Lo, that's gonna 1:46:51.840 --> 1:46:54.640 be a hit. It was a hit, big hit. 1:46:55.200 --> 1:46:58.960 So when you come back, that right there shows you 1:46:59.080 --> 1:47:02.080 that there is respect for what he was doing before 1:47:02.120 --> 1:47:05.000 I even knew how he was doing it. He was 1:47:05.120 --> 1:47:08.160 willing to show me the trick because he knew. He 1:47:08.520 --> 1:47:10.160 didn't think it like, oh no, you would beat my 1:47:10.280 --> 1:47:14.160 bite my style, Nah, let me borrow that tool. And 1:47:14.280 --> 1:47:17.040 then when I applied that tool, it wasn't a bite. 1:47:17.280 --> 1:47:20.280 It's just another another extension of what he taught me. 1:47:20.640 --> 1:47:25.200 That's why hamlags professors showbiz on my three mentors and 1:47:25.280 --> 1:47:25.880 again Marlly. 1:47:25.960 --> 1:47:29.280 Marl didn't show me anything in person, but just what 1:47:29.439 --> 1:47:30.240 he did. 1:47:31.000 --> 1:47:34.519 Make the music with your mouth biz. Nobody beats to Biz, 1:47:35.320 --> 1:47:37.280 rode to the ridges. A lot of people in the 1:47:37.360 --> 1:47:39.800 circle have said they've given him them the I gave 1:47:39.840 --> 1:47:40.439 him that record. 1:47:40.600 --> 1:47:43.439 That's all good. He did the. 1:47:47.840 --> 1:47:51.000 That's what it's all about. Who made it bounce that way? 1:47:51.040 --> 1:47:52.559 Who made your echo sound that way? 1:47:52.760 --> 1:47:55.120 Who made your voice sound funky that way? 1:47:55.680 --> 1:47:58.320 Marlly did it, And that's all that matters to me 1:47:58.840 --> 1:48:02.439 because that's what makes me the premiere in order to 1:48:02.680 --> 1:48:04.360 be to stay doing it the way you do it 1:48:04.400 --> 1:48:07.080 for the rest of my life and in my passion, 1:48:07.600 --> 1:48:10.680 it's because of how I study a great one. So 1:48:10.920 --> 1:48:12.880 whatever you brought to him is what you brought to him. 1:48:13.320 --> 1:48:15.840 He still made it glow. Guruus to always say that 1:48:16.439 --> 1:48:19.600 you and Eddie Sancho make everything glow. He said, I 1:48:19.800 --> 1:48:22.000 just laid my part down, but you make it light up. 1:48:22.600 --> 1:48:24.760 Mally makes things light up. So no matter what you 1:48:24.880 --> 1:48:27.640 bring him or you gave him everything, he made it 1:48:27.760 --> 1:48:30.080 light up. And without the light, there's darkness. I want 1:48:30.120 --> 1:48:31.880 to be in light. What do y'all think about like 1:48:32.280 --> 1:48:34.240 the separation of sampling and hip hop? 1:48:34.720 --> 1:48:38.400 No, I mean does it matter. We understand the rules 1:48:38.520 --> 1:48:39.519 and the sample of law. 1:48:39.600 --> 1:48:43.760 I mean I understand it sampling finance, but it takes 1:48:43.800 --> 1:48:45.559 away the soul me personally. 1:48:45.640 --> 1:48:48.240 I think sometimes it doesn't. You just get ill with 1:48:48.320 --> 1:48:52.439 your sample. Well man cutting it so nobody knows what 1:48:52.520 --> 1:48:55.560 it is. If it's bad, but you're still sampling, you 1:48:55.640 --> 1:49:01.879 may go and just get there. You're still sampling little bootprint, 1:49:02.120 --> 1:49:03.240 which is what which? 1:49:03.479 --> 1:49:07.320 Yeah, the traps, I mean we're lost because we're not 1:49:07.520 --> 1:49:13.880 records in little little Oh, like we know now the 1:49:14.040 --> 1:49:17.120 safety Z versus and then it's a point where we 1:49:17.200 --> 1:49:19.120 got to do it and it's really that that that 1:49:19.560 --> 1:49:24.160 that important? Clear clear clear Now I got mad clear now, No, 1:49:24.240 --> 1:49:26.080 we got no money. We can't clear anything. 1:49:30.880 --> 1:49:31.680 Don't tell me that I. 1:49:34.680 --> 1:49:36.519 Like I said, he taught me scratch ups. If you 1:49:36.680 --> 1:49:39.439 just listen to a lot of my joints, it's just 1:49:39.600 --> 1:49:40.840 me scratches. 1:49:41.240 --> 1:49:45.280 And they're crazy. You were doing radio already with Marley ma. 1:49:45.520 --> 1:49:50.080 I'm like, damn, this new guy, Pete Browden, he's nasty 1:49:50.160 --> 1:49:52.360 because Molly had a certain scratch style. 1:49:53.080 --> 1:49:55.360 Showed us out there, kind of found Nigga, I'm gonna 1:49:55.360 --> 1:49:56.479 smoke with camel crush. 1:49:57.200 --> 1:50:00.640 In our face. Our face died because it. 1:50:02.880 --> 1:50:06.920 Just give us cancer people, Okay with white people like 1:50:07.080 --> 1:50:08.800 lucky strikes, callnaments? 1:50:09.200 --> 1:50:17.200 You got the momaments? Are you good the white person? 1:50:18.080 --> 1:50:20.360 What? When we did the record, the record that we 1:50:20.439 --> 1:50:24.200 did together, I say, I think that I was the 1:50:24.280 --> 1:50:27.879 first person to ask you to cut up Guru's vocals. 1:50:28.160 --> 1:50:31.000 Was I would have sent me everything, right, every person 1:50:31.040 --> 1:50:34.640 to do that or no, no, no no. 1:50:34.760 --> 1:50:39.639 But after his death, that's what I'm saying, Oh yeah, yeah, okay, 1:50:40.640 --> 1:50:41.479 you send me everything. 1:50:41.640 --> 1:50:42.120 Yeah no. 1:50:42.280 --> 1:50:45.519 He had hosted Mad States from me. He had case 1:50:45.880 --> 1:50:50.840 and I was honored. Yeah yeah, yeah, No d J 1:50:51.120 --> 1:50:54.880 e f N no ef N was Guru DJ was case? 1:50:56.000 --> 1:50:58.040 Damn your memory really isn't backing? 1:51:00.120 --> 1:51:01.080 Have nothing against him? 1:51:01.160 --> 1:51:05.439 I think they have hill memories. Yeah, memory, I apologize fact, 1:51:05.920 --> 1:51:13.120 no need, but passes. There's no apology needed when you 1:51:13.280 --> 1:51:18.560 had this word, so pol don't get that. 1:51:19.200 --> 1:51:22.680 Only sold one million records, so you have to you 1:51:22.760 --> 1:51:28.600 think it's better stop listen seasons, all right, but google Bachaco? 1:51:29.240 --> 1:51:34.800 Who passes away? What's what? What's this man? 1:51:35.439 --> 1:51:35.840 His name? 1:51:36.680 --> 1:51:41.160 You gotta say it. I can't say no, no, no, no, 1:51:41.560 --> 1:51:46.080 not even yeah, holy ship? What's going on right now? 1:51:46.600 --> 1:51:46.720 You know? 1:51:47.200 --> 1:51:49.120 He'll help me out. He don't deserve, he don't deserve 1:51:49.160 --> 1:51:52.160 to be being said from instead a good person. Ain't 1:51:52.160 --> 1:51:56.880 gonna say the Solar and the friends. No, no, that's 1:51:56.920 --> 1:51:59.479 two different ones and it's not the same. He's so large, 1:51:59.800 --> 1:52:02.599 so l a, it's another soul. He's from France. 1:52:02.640 --> 1:52:05.639 He's dope, that's my dude, right, So there's another so together, 1:52:06.200 --> 1:52:07.479 all right, so we got to clarify. 1:52:07.560 --> 1:52:12.920 That's so I'm so sorry to actually as long as 1:52:12.960 --> 1:52:16.720 you said. But Solar makes these claims, and then with 1:52:16.920 --> 1:52:19.640 this premier standing on these claims. 1:52:19.600 --> 1:52:23.040 Ohship and all that type of stuff put to you 1:52:23.200 --> 1:52:28.000 like this, people could yeah say what they want to 1:52:28.080 --> 1:52:29.439 say and all that type of stuff. 1:52:29.479 --> 1:52:31.200 That's all cool because I don't have nothing to say 1:52:31.280 --> 1:52:35.640 when it comes to that. But if old boy does anything, 1:52:36.439 --> 1:52:36.840 then I'm. 1:52:36.720 --> 1:52:39.679 Gonna have a lot to sense a problem. Sybil and plan. 1:52:40.840 --> 1:52:42.439 That's my belichick, mam, and heard you. 1:52:43.439 --> 1:52:50.560 That was Bill BELLI done. What's agree? We love you, 1:52:51.400 --> 1:52:53.960 we love you back, and we love you and everything 1:52:54.040 --> 1:52:56.040 you meant to hip hop and then you know it 1:52:56.120 --> 1:52:58.360 was it was a funny moment. What everything I mean 1:52:58.439 --> 1:52:58.680 to him? 1:53:00.080 --> 1:53:04.800 Everything I apologize, you mean the hip hop and you know, 1:53:05.439 --> 1:53:07.679 it was a funny moment for us in hip hop 1:53:08.040 --> 1:53:11.240 when we got to hear like, you know, it's like 1:53:11.360 --> 1:53:15.240 yo gangs so and you know room and then then 1:53:15.320 --> 1:53:19.880 this guy we never because it's similar to how Pun like. 1:53:20.000 --> 1:53:23.840 When Pun died, I walked to his casket and they 1:53:24.000 --> 1:53:25.200 told me, I said, all the. 1:53:25.320 --> 1:53:30.280 Jewels, because I thought the most funeral rooms the caskets 1:53:30.280 --> 1:53:33.840 at the front. His was in the middle, middle of 1:53:33.880 --> 1:53:36.800 the lord. So when I'm walking like he was right there, 1:53:37.320 --> 1:53:40.160 right there, and the casket. I've never seen a casket 1:53:40.280 --> 1:53:42.960 like this. Okay, I've never seen the castle like this. 1:53:43.080 --> 1:53:47.920 The casket was short and super duper live, and he 1:53:48.000 --> 1:53:51.040 had all his ts changed around his hands and it 1:53:51.120 --> 1:53:53.240 looked like he was kissing the sky because the lips 1:53:53.280 --> 1:53:55.720 were puck it up, like that's the man. 1:53:55.800 --> 1:53:59.600 That's my point to bring this up was when I 1:54:00.160 --> 1:54:02.600 when I went to Punt's casket, people told me that 1:54:02.760 --> 1:54:06.599 Pun and subject, that something Pun suffered, right. 1:54:06.720 --> 1:54:08.960 And that now he's in a better place. And I didn't. 1:54:09.040 --> 1:54:12.800 I didn't know what people meant by that. So when 1:54:12.840 --> 1:54:16.800 I heard, you know, Googles, yeah, and I've never I've 1:54:16.880 --> 1:54:21.080 never seen Google suffering, nah, So I ain't neither me either. 1:54:21.800 --> 1:54:25.920 So everything was just a strange to not just me, everybody, 1:54:26.040 --> 1:54:30.040 and like, if not the fans who we are massive, 1:54:30.800 --> 1:54:33.880 it's strange to everybody. It's strange to me. It's strange 1:54:33.960 --> 1:54:37.240 to the fans because old boy don't know my man 1:54:37.400 --> 1:54:38.360 like I know my man. 1:54:38.840 --> 1:54:43.040 We know him well, Yes, yes, If I really wanted 1:54:43.080 --> 1:54:47.840 to grade dude on a five quiz question. 1:54:47.760 --> 1:54:54.920 There, I guarantee you'll fail. Every answer simple and plain because. 1:54:54.640 --> 1:54:58.680 You had to really really really really really really really 1:54:58.840 --> 1:55:03.040 really know my So you will fail. I can watch 1:55:03.080 --> 1:55:06.040 you right now and make every little sense simple questions. 1:55:06.520 --> 1:55:08.879 How hard on simple questions? 1:55:09.120 --> 1:55:10.200 He's going to fail. 1:55:10.480 --> 1:55:14.720 And it's gonna also be multiple choice ABC A D 1:55:15.520 --> 1:55:16.760 not gonna pick the right answer. 1:55:16.960 --> 1:55:19.400 And I know this because I know this and I 1:55:19.520 --> 1:55:20.920 know him. I know both of them. 1:55:21.800 --> 1:55:26.040 So that's why I don't entertain him, because anytime he 1:55:26.200 --> 1:55:28.400 wants to ever go there, I'm here. 1:55:28.720 --> 1:55:32.480 I mean, if I'm not here, I'm here, you feel me. 1:55:36.440 --> 1:55:41.120 I will not say his name. It's because hip hop 1:55:41.240 --> 1:55:43.560 needed to hear that hip hop? 1:55:44.920 --> 1:55:45.960 How can we make them do that? 1:55:46.760 --> 1:55:48.200 When things is the right move? 1:55:48.680 --> 1:55:50.960 I know when it is about the right people around me, 1:55:51.040 --> 1:55:54.960 from legal to my management, to my artists, to the street. 1:55:55.080 --> 1:55:58.320 Me even being in the street, I have extream mentality 1:55:58.680 --> 1:56:01.600 that keeps me grounded. And I have a dope mom 1:56:01.680 --> 1:56:04.400 and dad and sisters and niece and nephews. Your five 1:56:04.480 --> 1:56:07.400 year old son, who's my dude, shout to his mother. 1:56:07.560 --> 1:56:13.000 She's everybody Like, we're that connected on making sure we 1:56:13.120 --> 1:56:15.920 don't ever fuck up with the social media. 1:56:15.720 --> 1:56:18.760 Stuff making us look like we're fools. Ain't going out 1:56:18.840 --> 1:56:29.040 like that. I'm premiere. Listen, I'm gonna be honest. I'm 1:56:29.040 --> 1:56:31.520 gonna be honest with me. And this guy to the 1:56:31.640 --> 1:56:34.960 right of me started this and we sat down and 1:56:35.080 --> 1:56:39.360 we said we want the only give love to the legends. 1:56:40.760 --> 1:56:41.960 The legends and hip hop. 1:56:43.040 --> 1:56:46.400 You guys are the impitted me of leg This is 1:56:47.080 --> 1:56:49.520 this is the pinnacle and I can't I can't thank 1:56:49.600 --> 1:56:51.640 you enough, like you know, both of you guys that 1:56:51.760 --> 1:56:52.520 gave me beats. 1:56:54.120 --> 1:56:57.400 And that's what's crazy about this about it is I 1:56:57.520 --> 1:57:03.720 still can't do that. I still oh yeah, I still 1:57:03.880 --> 1:57:07.040 owe you both because I love. 1:57:06.960 --> 1:57:14.760 You, don't na, I love you guys, because definitely I'm starting. 1:57:15.320 --> 1:57:17.000 I'm just ready to give yourself. 1:57:17.400 --> 1:57:20.560 Would that be that me tonight? Please give me that 1:57:20.800 --> 1:57:24.440 be That's crazy, man, Dude, I was going to peep 1:57:24.480 --> 1:57:33.120 with imagine you give me because I want Pete to know, so. 1:57:35.320 --> 1:57:39.080 Up the club. I really want to do this for 1:57:39.200 --> 1:57:40.320 your album, Pete. 1:57:41.200 --> 1:57:44.000 For man, if it wasn't for you, guys, I probably 1:57:44.040 --> 1:57:45.720 wouldn't have a childhood, no doubt. 1:57:45.840 --> 1:57:48.800 And this is real ship, man, that's real ship. I 1:57:48.920 --> 1:57:51.840 really love you. Joint said we love but I want 1:57:51.880 --> 1:58:05.720 to just tell I heard oh okay, look I don't Swiss. 1:58:06.440 --> 1:58:12.920 Swiss not only killed that everybody on that song destroyed 1:58:13.200 --> 1:58:13.640 and dude, you. 1:58:13.680 --> 1:58:16.160 Had I wanted to do a posse cut. You know 1:58:16.280 --> 1:58:20.560 what happened. I wanted to do a posse cut your 1:58:20.760 --> 1:58:24.720 body that open whoever get crazy ship, whoever goes first 1:58:24.760 --> 1:58:27.320 to me, and whoever goes last has the most pressure. 1:58:27.920 --> 1:58:30.280 I went last. That was that era because right now 1:58:32.280 --> 1:58:35.160 the record, I have to punt. It was nature pun 1:58:35.640 --> 1:58:37.320 cam what what you wanted? 1:58:37.480 --> 1:58:39.880 I'm the last you can what what all you wanted? 1:58:40.200 --> 1:58:43.080 That's what I wanted to do, dude. But you know what, 1:58:43.800 --> 1:58:46.320 my whole life, my whole career wouldn't make sense. 1:58:46.520 --> 1:58:47.600 I have a question if it. 1:58:47.760 --> 1:58:48.080 Was for you. 1:58:48.280 --> 1:58:50.440 I have a question on that song he said, That's 1:58:50.480 --> 1:58:53.240 why I'll never do a song with you. Wasn't directed 1:58:53.240 --> 1:58:53.880 to anybody else. 1:58:53.920 --> 1:58:57.080 I just hate you're talking about somebody, bro, I want 1:59:00.080 --> 1:59:02.720 what I know he was talking about somebody directing somebody 1:59:03.000 --> 1:59:05.040 or is because you know, I can also be universal. 1:59:05.160 --> 1:59:09.880 Just he's somebody I know this guy like that's why 1:59:09.920 --> 1:59:12.240 I'm not It was like Joseph on the Block. 1:59:12.640 --> 1:59:15.440 It's very trick because the thing about it is this, 1:59:17.920 --> 1:59:22.000 I'm very pretty for me. I'm sorry sometimes you got 1:59:22.120 --> 1:59:23.640 to I'm very credit Pete. 1:59:24.360 --> 1:59:28.760 So just I don't get trying to come up and 1:59:28.880 --> 1:59:32.040 you take a slight shot at me, I'm coming to 1:59:32.120 --> 1:59:35.400 fuck out. I'm bodying you on the wreck, which is 1:59:35.560 --> 1:59:40.960 very very but that's what that's who I am when 1:59:41.000 --> 1:59:43.280 I met him. This is how he looked at me. 1:59:43.840 --> 1:59:47.720 Get only twist in his head that he's at the 1:59:47.760 --> 1:59:49.640 front door. Yo, we gotta sesching up a D N 1:59:49.720 --> 1:59:52.200 D yo for me. I love your stuff, yo, Jo, 1:59:55.680 --> 1:59:56.040 how you doing? 1:59:56.120 --> 2:00:04.480 He's like, yeah, but l A l A l A 2:00:04.680 --> 2:00:06.240 was really bumping with a lot of d js at 2:00:06.240 --> 2:00:09.120 that time. It was early, so we don't really know 2:00:09.200 --> 2:00:09.920 who he is yet. 2:00:10.480 --> 2:00:20.839 We just know weise got raw rockm morale like emeralds 2:00:20.920 --> 2:00:21.560 and morale. 2:00:23.080 --> 2:00:27.240 L A l A. That's my first meeting in him. 2:00:27.320 --> 2:00:34.920 Not he goes the weeds like like, don't forget a 2:00:35.040 --> 2:00:39.360 little dip is the reason why you and I. But 2:00:39.520 --> 2:00:40.760 the song was already out where. 2:00:40.760 --> 2:00:43.200 It's like, that's to do that the day and that's 2:00:43.240 --> 2:00:50.160 the verse that maybe J I can't believe you know 2:00:50.560 --> 2:00:55.120 I got We just did a b for you right now. Yeah, 2:00:55.880 --> 2:00:57.560 let me tell you something. You know what we gotta 2:00:57.560 --> 2:01:00.560 do somewhere we make a beat together, which we never done. 2:01:03.280 --> 2:01:07.760 We start things that drinks that right now because you know, 2:01:07.960 --> 2:01:10.680 you know, you know, you don't know if you're not 2:01:10.960 --> 2:01:13.080 you know, I don't know, I don't know if you 2:01:13.160 --> 2:01:17.440 know wherever state you are, I'll fly like that far 2:01:17.720 --> 2:01:21.080 and I would just love you for Lace and Black 2:01:21.200 --> 2:01:22.680 Poets album black Print. 2:01:22.800 --> 2:01:30.120 Oh no, no problem, problem body that problem. But this 2:01:30.280 --> 2:01:33.600 is the reason why you're so much of important producer. 2:01:34.120 --> 2:01:38.200 You can go and you can work with Carsina, and 2:01:38.280 --> 2:01:40.480 then you can turn around and you still care. 2:01:40.360 --> 2:01:44.760 A black music listen. I love music. I love ship listen. 2:01:44.800 --> 2:01:46.520 I love that I get to consider. 2:01:49.280 --> 2:01:50.480 That's what it is. 2:01:50.560 --> 2:01:53.400 I like this. 2:01:53.720 --> 2:01:56.880 I like messing with all styles of music because I 2:01:57.080 --> 2:01:57.720 am into. 2:01:57.640 --> 2:02:03.120 Country, blues, gospel rock on yeah, praier View is the 2:02:03.240 --> 2:02:04.120 town drinks. 2:02:05.720 --> 2:02:10.040 Yeah, the DJ screw by the way, DJ Screw, let's 2:02:10.080 --> 2:02:13.920 talk about but the leans to But even that, that's 2:02:14.040 --> 2:02:16.520 when it was like now it's an epidemic. 2:02:17.200 --> 2:02:19.960 It wasn't epidemic then, and it was something that you 2:02:20.080 --> 2:02:23.120 just did every occasion, like going out to a bar. 2:02:23.040 --> 2:02:25.080 And having I don't drink every day. I don't you know. 2:02:25.120 --> 2:02:26.040 I got I got work to do it. 2:02:26.080 --> 2:02:28.120 I business a handle. I stay focused. From a five 2:02:28.200 --> 2:02:29.360 year old son, I'm focused. 2:02:29.880 --> 2:02:42.320 But you're still question they're about to open the car. 2:02:43.960 --> 2:02:44.240 Finish. 2:02:45.000 --> 2:02:45.840 So I mean so. 2:02:47.320 --> 2:02:49.680 A lot of the things again that are just out 2:02:49.720 --> 2:02:53.800 of control, are just way publicized or promoted on a 2:02:53.880 --> 2:02:54.720 higher pedestal. 2:02:55.400 --> 2:02:56.800 I already did all that stuff. 2:02:57.240 --> 2:03:00.840 It's about living past that and being able to still 2:03:00.920 --> 2:03:04.640 function on what's the matters that keep you in the 2:03:04.800 --> 2:03:06.000 longevity bucket. 2:03:06.320 --> 2:03:08.240 I want to be in the longevity bucket. I don't 2:03:08.240 --> 2:03:09.840 want to be in the eye. You know you had 2:03:09.880 --> 2:03:13.120 your time bucket. My bucket. I want to go all 2:03:13.160 --> 2:03:16.320 the way even again. When I'm gone, it's still hot. 2:03:16.560 --> 2:03:17.720 Gang starts still hot. 2:03:18.240 --> 2:03:20.840 I keep gangs start still hot because I care about 2:03:21.320 --> 2:03:23.600 not just his legacy and our legacy as a. 2:03:23.880 --> 2:03:26.320 Team, but his son. He has a sixteen year old son. 2:03:26.640 --> 2:03:28.880 I'm making sure his son's eating. I'm making sure his 2:03:28.960 --> 2:03:36.080 son's getting everything that his father's have. I wouldn't feel 2:03:36.160 --> 2:03:36.720 right that. 2:03:37.120 --> 2:03:37.280 Hell. 2:03:37.920 --> 2:03:40.440 My model is this. I can sleep at night. 2:03:41.000 --> 2:03:41.600 That's my mind. 2:03:41.640 --> 2:03:44.840 That's the most important thing at night. I can sleep 2:03:44.920 --> 2:03:46.440 at night. A lot of people you can go. You 2:03:46.520 --> 2:03:51.440 don't understand that like anybody else, But. 2:03:51.560 --> 2:03:54.960 My nightmares are clear from how I analyzed what I 2:03:55.040 --> 2:03:56.600 woke up to business. 2:03:57.000 --> 2:03:59.680 You can sleep, man. My mind is strong. 2:03:59.760 --> 2:03:59.920 Man. 2:04:00.160 --> 2:04:04.000 So I'm going to end this podcast, but I can't 2:04:04.040 --> 2:04:07.600 thank you brothers enough. Thank for having for helping helping me. 2:04:09.560 --> 2:04:13.320 Both of you both helped me personally because my career 2:04:13.480 --> 2:04:16.720 couldn't be complete. I could never complete my career without 2:04:16.760 --> 2:04:21.320 having a beat, rock beat, the premier beat appreciation. Hip 2:04:21.360 --> 2:04:24.080 hop is what I want to continue to represent. 2:04:24.520 --> 2:04:26.160 I want to continue to stand by it. 2:04:26.320 --> 2:04:30.000 I can't believe twenty five million and I hate this 2:04:30.160 --> 2:04:33.320 guy right here a me brous you knew you had 2:04:33.400 --> 2:04:34.880 a twenty five million flat? 2:04:35.240 --> 2:04:38.400 Let me ask. You should have told me on Wednesday. No, No, 2:04:40.160 --> 2:04:42.400 you just a good friend. You deserve. I want to 2:04:42.440 --> 2:04:44.320 surprise you at. 2:04:46.200 --> 2:04:46.800 You don't know that. 2:04:47.080 --> 2:04:50.360 Yeah, I love you. Yeah, I'm having a movie, but 2:04:50.680 --> 2:04:51.080 I love you. 2:04:52.200 --> 2:04:52.640 I let you. 2:04:53.800 --> 2:04:55.880 I can't believe just you asked. 2:04:56.160 --> 2:04:59.680 Yes, everything I do outside of hip hop, when I 2:04:59.800 --> 2:05:02.800 do hip hop, I keep it hood, keep it hood. 2:05:02.880 --> 2:05:05.880 Everything else I can do balance, slow songs, pop songs. 2:05:06.560 --> 2:05:07.440 I like that music too. 2:05:07.560 --> 2:05:11.840 Yes, hip hop, I keep keep it hood because that's 2:05:11.840 --> 2:05:14.480 why I like to listen to it when I buy it, drive. 2:05:14.400 --> 2:05:17.320 To it, or have my radio. If it's either my 2:05:17.440 --> 2:05:20.960 radio or this. You guys are the bedrock. Please stay 2:05:21.040 --> 2:05:22.320 let's rock listen. 2:05:22.440 --> 2:05:25.320 If it wasn't for YouTube, brothers, I wouldn't have a childhood. 2:05:26.080 --> 2:05:28.000 You brothers, that's well deserved what you got. 2:05:29.000 --> 2:05:30.560 It's better than you could say. 2:05:31.080 --> 2:05:34.120 Ain't gonna let's be on wrap. This is a podcast. 2:05:34.160 --> 2:05:36.120 They should make it platinum though, why do you make it? 2:05:36.240 --> 2:05:43.640 Go Matt Steps, it's not twenty five five hundred. You 2:05:43.680 --> 2:05:53.160 know what, You're right, you know what, you know what? 2:05:55.800 --> 2:06:00.600 He actually right, It should be, should be. I'm just 2:06:00.680 --> 2:06:05.120 happy to be here right now and listen, give thanks 2:06:05.160 --> 2:06:06.160 man too. 2:06:06.240 --> 2:06:09.200 Of the best producers of all times have just now 2:06:09.400 --> 2:06:12.200 sat down absolutely all drink champs and. 2:06:13.800 --> 2:06:15.520 The bi up. 2:06:18.080 --> 2:06:20.280 Cut the check and if you have a one more shot, 2:06:21.160 --> 2:06:26.960 one ship shot because at the end of the day, 2:06:27.080 --> 2:06:29.000 and we're gonna say and watching the battle. 2:06:30.200 --> 2:06:33.080 Because when I seen the battle and when I see 2:06:33.160 --> 2:06:35.800 that they said, this is the first time, excuse me 2:06:36.880 --> 2:06:39.320 say the whole thing, don't. 2:06:39.760 --> 2:06:44.000 My brother, I definitely have a shot. Careful. 2:06:45.200 --> 2:06:50.200 When they said that this is the first time us battled, 2:06:50.840 --> 2:06:51.440 no shot. 2:06:53.320 --> 2:06:55.040 Terrible. I felt terrible. 2:06:55.120 --> 2:06:57.000 They said that this is the first time the produces 2:06:57.360 --> 2:06:59.800 first bat And I knew that y'all guys have done this. 2:07:00.000 --> 2:07:01.960 I knew that just Blazer actually had done it with 2:07:02.400 --> 2:07:06.000 Alchemists before and so I wanted to. I wanted to 2:07:06.120 --> 2:07:10.160 actually big you brothers up because I understand what it is. 2:07:10.640 --> 2:07:18.480 But I also understand that Swiss also knows he's a. 2:07:18.440 --> 2:07:21.480 Student of the game, because he never said that. He 2:07:21.640 --> 2:07:25.160 never saw I love you, brothers. 2:07:26.160 --> 2:07:29.400 If you motherfuckers can't, if your motherfucker's Google don't work, 2:07:29.480 --> 2:07:33.760 you need to relax because these are the two of us, 2:07:34.520 --> 2:07:41.680 the best producers of all fucking time, Pete and Premier 2:07:41.960 --> 2:07:43.600 of best producers of all 2:07:50.400 --> 2:07:52.760 Let's take that FI drop