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Speaker 5: That's right, Hey Hanks agree? Hold this up means your

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Speaker 3: Oh okay, okay, and that's when Jeff, But they want

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Speaker 3: to congratulate you on twenty five million listen.

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Speaker 1: Wow, oh damn oh that.

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Speaker 3: I don't get what.

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Speaker 2: You knew it?

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Speaker 1: You know this is going there. You didn't tell me

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Speaker 1: you fucking that million and doing hip ho. We're doing

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Speaker 1: it hip hop. So I would like to introduce.

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Speaker 5: If you are into hip hop, if you if this

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Speaker 5: is something that you say you love and this is

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Speaker 5: something to say you adapted and you don't know these

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Speaker 5: two brothers, and you don't know how these brothers shaped

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Speaker 5: now if it wasn't for these two people that standing

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Speaker 5: is is because of them. They single handedly had their

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Speaker 5: hands on the best artists ever. When you think about Illmatic,

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Speaker 5: think about reasonable doubt about Biggie.

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Speaker 1: They worked with the three top best.

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Speaker 5: They continuously out here looking young, they out here and

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Speaker 5: then and then the beat battle had just took place,

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Speaker 1: Him up and big up just Blade.

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Speaker 7: But a lot of people don't know that these brothers

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Speaker 7: been doing this for years, for years, they started it,

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Speaker 7: and I am so proud to introduce and to represent

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Speaker 7: people that I look up to personally.

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Speaker 5: Pete Rocken, motherfucker DJ. You're listening, brothers. So I'm gonna

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Speaker 5: be honest. The fact that both of you brothers had

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Speaker 5: worked on my favorite hip hop album of all times,

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Speaker 5: which is Illmatic.

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Speaker 1: Now, I just want to.

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Speaker 5: Take it from there, because was it because we had

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Speaker 5: q Tip on here? And I believe q Tip. I

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Speaker 5: think he said he suggested that he worked with them,

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Speaker 1: So you telling me you never heard of not both.

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Speaker 3: Brothers and the thing is back. You know queen's artists,

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Speaker 3: with no hooks, and you know, love of visit is

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Speaker 3: ten minutes before he said sence, he was like, yo,

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Speaker 1: Do name the rappernas nasty? It wasn't last.

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Speaker 1: He does it on hanging. He like the reppernas. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: And so even rapping big noise, I figured, that's just

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Speaker 1: That's a queen thing.

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Speaker 5: And we got we got Pete Rock. I mean, we

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Speaker 1: Please whatever, you're just so, y'all know that.

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Speaker 5: So y'all know, y'all been y'all, y'all personally raised me.

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Speaker 5: You probably didn't know that but it was so honor

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Speaker 5: I know both of your names start with A pete,

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Speaker 1: I heard you play unreleased on me Casina. Was that

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Speaker 3: I was in a group called mcason Control and Texas

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Speaker 1: That's the first artist I ever produced was Lord. Let's

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Speaker 1: So now how did you meet? Y'all went to school together.

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Speaker 8: Through some street guys, and you know when I heard,

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Speaker 8: Like we was taking like dance to the drummers beat

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Speaker 5: And then because it is like it's like the Bronx

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so y'all had to have hip hop justice.

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Speaker 8: You know, when I was young, I went to Bronx

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Speaker 8: Your cousin is my cousin of course, family, all right,

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Speaker 8: I was Teddy Wiley, I was in the studio.

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Speaker 1: How we team.

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Speaker 3: Let's take it rimming this Soul with You, which is

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Speaker 5: Can we break that down?

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Speaker 1: It's Troy right, It's on tour.

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Speaker 8: Managers playing around, you know, we's always be on tour

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Speaker 8: And when I found the sample, you know, I was

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Speaker 8: So it melt it right and it was just like

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Speaker 1: Know that was going to be as classic as it is?

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Speaker 2: When I had Charlie Brown from me decisions.

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Speaker 8: And he was there for the mixed up and we

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Speaker 2: He started crying, and then the engineers started and I.

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Speaker 3: You know. The only thing I don't like about that

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Speaker 3: record is that wait, what what are you say is

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Speaker 1: So now I gotta take it to one of my

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Speaker 1: What drugs was you smoking? That's the ruler era. Man.

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Speaker 3: You know it's crazy because I mean everybody has the

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Speaker 1: I mean, now the pills they are, the young kids,

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Speaker 1: they're crazy. That's not my thing.

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Speaker 3: But I mean we all have ways of escaping and

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Speaker 3: all that sports. It has always been in a twine.

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Speaker 3: But it's all about how strong your mind is or

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Speaker 2: That I've always kept your.

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Speaker 1: Grown mind to know how to turn the switch off

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Speaker 3: I'm glad, yeah you is.

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Speaker 1: You know when I've heard that this happened.

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Speaker 3: ninety three into ninety four. That album came out ninety four,

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Speaker 3: Folk Song came out ninety three. But I mean, though

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Speaker 1: So thank Goodness said that it is because I'm still

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Speaker 3: We're still active, which we still are addicted to making

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Speaker 3: beats and performing in DJing. We're like we're battling, Yeah, battle,

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Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. But Master Hill was a wizard,

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Speaker 1: But like who always.

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Speaker 3: Said, we got platinum respect, So they came out the

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Speaker 1: But everybody that that's platinum and selling millions of Love

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Speaker 3: We were like, let's make a radio making fun of radio,

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Speaker 1: That was my mind stage.

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Speaker 3: I wanted to make the records, you know, you know

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Speaker 1: I'm thinking about your logic.

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Speaker 2: Found the record that's closest to It's like, yeah, closest.

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Speaker 1: To what That's what it is. There's a lot of

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Speaker 3: Pre hear the song and I'm looking for the stuff

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Speaker 3: But you know, because it's like, you know what it's

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Speaker 1: We're gonna go.

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Speaker 5: Talk got In the early days of my gang Start career,

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Speaker 3: Me how to get to the level, actually four of

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Speaker 3: I'll Balanti. He taught me how to feel to show biz.

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Speaker 1: That used to come to Miles and Hill with us

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Speaker 3: The mom shirt cutting k scratch, I mean Kate cutting

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: When I started working on boom Bat with KRS because

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Speaker 3: and you didn't.

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Speaker 1: We still the lawn too. You killed that album. You killed.

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Speaker 3: It was just a laugh at radio for not playing us.

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Speaker 3: And then its going to be our biggest in that.

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Speaker 1: Crazy you know, you know, you know what else I

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Speaker 1: Stick up the kids. That was a true story, just

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Speaker 3: That's how I fancy from the n Y Jesus, That's

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Speaker 9: Was in the hood.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, middle was We got our first check. I was

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Speaker 3: We both bought our first brand new cars. And you know,

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Speaker 3: They took Tom Tom passed when looking at the cats,

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Speaker 1: One day we just poured GPS. Yeah, one day we're.

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Speaker 3: us start chasing too, going after him. He's like, that's

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Speaker 3: our car, that's our car. Because they want to pull

446
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Speaker 3: us over. They go after the car that he keeps

447
00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:12,920
Speaker 3: on driving. He the driver hits an ice cream truck

448
00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:13,719
Speaker 3: and dies.

449
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Speaker 1: Oh ship, yeah yeah.

450
00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:19,359
Speaker 3: And it's crazy because Grew had a picture of the

451
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Speaker 3: day he got the car, and he's in front of

452
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Speaker 3: it going.

453
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Speaker 1: Like like, yeah, I got my car.

454
00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:25,480
Speaker 3: Were going to the precinct where they brought the car

455
00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:27,320
Speaker 3: and it was all switched in and everything from the

456
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Speaker 3: from the crash and it was all.

457
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Speaker 1: Switched up and grew, So I got to take a

458
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Speaker 1: picture body's standing by going before I sold.

459
00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:39,600
Speaker 3: He said, I'm writing a song about this, and we

460
00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:41,920
Speaker 3: wrote the song with the and see the album only

461
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Speaker 3: has two verses. When we came up with the video

462
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Speaker 3: with fab for Freddy and did that, he said, we

463
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Speaker 3: need that. That's me swatching there there hook, I mean

464
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Speaker 3: their voice on Funky for You.

465
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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's so so fab fire.

466
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Speaker 3: Freddy said we need a closing way of the video,

467
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Speaker 3: and being it that the guy did die in the end,

468
00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:03,359
Speaker 3: he said, we gotta do a third versal. Guru or

469
00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:05,280
Speaker 3: the third verse, and that's why the twelve minutes has

470
00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:07,320
Speaker 3: a diffinite type of a bounce, and it's been re

471
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Speaker 3: recorded three.

472
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Speaker 1: Verses nineteen ninety.

473
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Speaker 3: So yeah, isn't that crazy that we actually found a

474
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Speaker 3: dude to took off after the cops go after after us,

475
00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:18,359
Speaker 3: and once we say, you know, we're trying to get

476
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Speaker 3: our car back, and the dude running and crashed karm

477
00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:23,400
Speaker 3: up for your ice cream truck.

478
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Speaker 2: That's why you gotta love game star.

479
00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:27,440
Speaker 1: This is why you got it a love true star.

480
00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:35,119
Speaker 1: You got it now, Pete, the world is sure. I

481
00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:37,320
Speaker 1: was hating that now.

482
00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:42,240
Speaker 2: That means I was instilled though when he heard the beat.

483
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Speaker 4: Ship Hold on, hold that, hold up on a second,

484
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Speaker 4: because I want to say, arguably might be my favorite

485
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Speaker 4: record on him my back is my favorite album of

486
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Speaker 4: all time.

487
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Speaker 2: Wow in mind too. Not because I'm on it. It

488
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Speaker 2: would have been my favorite even.

489
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Speaker 1: If I ain't on it at all.

490
00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:01,320
Speaker 2: I'm glad I was made.

491
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Speaker 5: I just want you describe he was there. He was

492
00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:10,440
Speaker 5: there just to watch, all right. So now you meet

493
00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:14,240
Speaker 5: this kid that lost professor. Yes, it brings you to them, Yes,

494
00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:15,600
Speaker 5: and then they say they want you to work on.

495
00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:16,680
Speaker 2: Came up to mom vernon.

496
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Speaker 8: Okay, And there's a story where I had not waiting.

497
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Speaker 8: I didn't even realize. I don't even remember. He said that.

498
00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:25,280
Speaker 2: I was in the car talking to a girl and

499
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Speaker 2: he was behind me.

500
00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:28,760
Speaker 1: But you know, if it's people behind me to get out,

501
00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:33,520
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But he waited. He just

502
00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:35,280
Speaker 1: stood in the car shot.

503
00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:40,399
Speaker 2: I'm still we got it together. We got downstairs right,

504
00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:43,359
Speaker 2: going through a couple of as SPEK twelve hundred this right,

505
00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:47,639
Speaker 2: the first three, the second one I discome put in.

506
00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:51,040
Speaker 2: When I played it, he just said, oh wait, wait, wait, wait,

507
00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:55,760
Speaker 2: wait a minute, and he just stood there. I was like, okay, that.

508
00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:56,600
Speaker 3: Means he likes it.

509
00:24:57,280 --> 00:24:59,520
Speaker 1: I just knew it, you know, And this is the

510
00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:01,240
Speaker 1: world is you? Was he saying, He's like, you want

511
00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:01,600
Speaker 1: to single?

512
00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:07,720
Speaker 2: I want you to do the whole well, you know,

513
00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:12,000
Speaker 2: got some hip hop ship. And then we got in

514
00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:14,919
Speaker 2: the studio, went to Battery. That's where we did it, you.

515
00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:19,000
Speaker 1: Know, bat that's our job O record. I watched later

516
00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:20,120
Speaker 1: Scratches one tape.

517
00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:23,840
Speaker 2: Premo came in there and I did the Scratches take.

518
00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:26,159
Speaker 1: I think I was the quietest I've ever been to

519
00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:30,040
Speaker 1: this like this looking and I was just like, but

520
00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:32,600
Speaker 1: the world don't know. Does the world know? Who knows?

521
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Speaker 3: Is like?

522
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Speaker 9: Yeah?

523
00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:39,879
Speaker 1: Back again? Time was half time? Okay, what about back

524
00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:43,960
Speaker 1: to the grill again? Was he back to the grille before? Yeah? Yeah,

525
00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:48,280
Speaker 1: building at this point right, so yeah, the buzz already

526
00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:50,200
Speaker 1: this was crashed.

527
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Speaker 8: Through mad because super was out when it was done

528
00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:56,760
Speaker 8: and finished, man, man.

529
00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:02,480
Speaker 2: Like, that's done. His three join us on.

530
00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:07,879
Speaker 3: Shot and half three at the time that all had represented,

531
00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:10,200
Speaker 3: but not the one on the album. The one is

532
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Speaker 3: on the allmatic is a remix?

533
00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:14,119
Speaker 1: What not the one on the single?

534
00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:15,680
Speaker 3: No, just the one that's the one is on the

535
00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:18,240
Speaker 3: album period. The one is on the album period is

536
00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:19,840
Speaker 3: the remix? I had the baseline?

537
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:26,520
Speaker 1: Yo, hold on, what's the original represent? I don't have

538
00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:27,479
Speaker 1: to keep you it up there?

539
00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:29,240
Speaker 10: Do that?

540
00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:34,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I can't believe I'm I'm crazy. I make

541
00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:36,879
Speaker 1: that story because I still can't believe. What is this?

542
00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:37,880
Speaker 1: This again?

543
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:42,680
Speaker 3: We celebrate over twenty five million, twenty being congratulated by yeah, man.

544
00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:50,680
Speaker 1: Around, that's another round. I knew I wanted another flack.

545
00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:52,600
Speaker 1: I just didn't know I was gonna get a podcast.

546
00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:58,080
Speaker 1: What hip hop? You the fact that you know?

547
00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:01,520
Speaker 5: I don't know if you guys know, we only interview legends,

548
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:04,560
Speaker 5: not because we don't have love for the new generation,

549
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:05,159
Speaker 5: because we do.

550
00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:08,240
Speaker 1: But I feel like in hip hop, hip hop is

551
00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:11,480
Speaker 1: the only place that you get ten years in, you

552
00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:13,240
Speaker 1: get fifteen years in and they say you.

553
00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:17,359
Speaker 3: Old, and they're right, we're all old older, but we

554
00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:18,680
Speaker 3: have old Thomas music.

555
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:22,560
Speaker 1: But we are true to what we do, absolutely believe

556
00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:23,320
Speaker 1: in refuge.

557
00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:26,080
Speaker 5: So I just want to keep the interviewing legends and

558
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:29,400
Speaker 5: for us to have a twenty five million flack congratulations,

559
00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:32,119
Speaker 5: congratulations then and I hate you.

560
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:37,320
Speaker 1: Why would he knew he had? When did you get

561
00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:38,040
Speaker 1: the bro?

562
00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:38,640
Speaker 3: Listen?

563
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:38,920
Speaker 1: Man?

564
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:42,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, like I didn't know?

565
00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:47,159
Speaker 5: And then big up r big up the sidebar my

566
00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:53,840
Speaker 5: boy Raoul J Heron DJ Heron definitely, man, you know

567
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:55,320
Speaker 5: what I got. You always got a big up a

568
00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:58,080
Speaker 5: Heron Because if you go to a Hera party, you

569
00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:00,320
Speaker 5: coming around, it's real pop.

570
00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:02,800
Speaker 1: The bitch is going to be there with the sneaker

571
00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:06,040
Speaker 1: scoff with the that's real hip hop. When the chicks

572
00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:09,119
Speaker 1: got their hells on, that's not hip hop. Like you

573
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:12,600
Speaker 1: got your sneakers. Gotta be dirty to a certain extent,

574
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:14,320
Speaker 1: you know what to be real hip hop?

575
00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:20,680
Speaker 3: Now?

576
00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:25,080
Speaker 1: So you do the world as your Yes, you said

577
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:27,560
Speaker 1: after you did the record, you was just happy for him,

578
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:28,240
Speaker 1: very happy.

579
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:31,840
Speaker 5: But did you did you had the foresight to think

580
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:35,720
Speaker 5: that this guy would actually like you know, this guy.

581
00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:38,240
Speaker 1: Was gonna blow.

582
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:41,239
Speaker 3: There was a lot of anticipation when you guys were

583
00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:42,080
Speaker 3: working on the project.

584
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:43,440
Speaker 11: The game.

585
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:48,560
Speaker 8: It was like rock him again, right, Yeah, he stood

586
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:51,240
Speaker 8: in his own light, but he was in poppy by.

587
00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:53,160
Speaker 2: The WHOI rapped the rock?

588
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:56,400
Speaker 1: No question, you know question? But was open?

589
00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:58,120
Speaker 2: Yeah? That was that was That was one.

590
00:28:58,720 --> 00:28:59,280
Speaker 3: This was new.

591
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 2: I've been coming and we were confident and he was confident.

592
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:05,240
Speaker 6: And I was happening.

593
00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:06,840
Speaker 3: Were there a lot of records on that project that

594
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:08,480
Speaker 3: didn't make the project that you guys are?

595
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:11,800
Speaker 1: Was that the only beat you made? Oh so it

596
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:15,160
Speaker 1: was one and one hit her quit? Now the repe

597
00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:19,320
Speaker 1: that go in what was blowing away from?

598
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:25,960
Speaker 5: And then you tip at the remixed you talk about okay, yeah, yeah,

599
00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:28,080
Speaker 5: that remixes had me all upset.

600
00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:34,120
Speaker 1: Wait oh wait, wait wait your competition like in a

601
00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 1: good way, like damn.

602
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:37,800
Speaker 2: Should I should have just did a quick remix?

603
00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:44,640
Speaker 3: You know, but they're both amazing. Yeah, and it's totally different,

604
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:46,240
Speaker 3: you know, different approaches.

605
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:49,160
Speaker 2: His Town's amazing. Q tip shout out to him.

606
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:54,200
Speaker 1: I saw brother, So now you did, you said? Three

607
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:58,000
Speaker 1: joints represented by Memory Lane in New York State of Mind,

608
00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:02,720
Speaker 1: Memory Lane, I don't remembory, ain't member Lane, bemer Lane

609
00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:05,080
Speaker 1: Man Me and me and NAS had a debate on

610
00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:07,200
Speaker 1: that one because I actually didn't like that one. This

611
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:09,640
Speaker 1: is prime. This is the crazy way. I mean. I've

612
00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:12,120
Speaker 1: been in the studio with Free Vow. Yo, you're really

613
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:14,680
Speaker 1: a perfectionist, yo, because I do it on the spot. Yo,

614
00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:16,120
Speaker 1: you really are perfected.

615
00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:16,400
Speaker 2: Yo.

616
00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:19,800
Speaker 1: I'm winning six times. Get a beat right? And he

617
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:22,080
Speaker 1: says he came to me. He came to me and said,

618
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:27,920
Speaker 1: what's your rom Nikola? I said, drop, I don't believe

619
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Speaker 1: my bug never made That's an incredible Then you made

620
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:37,280
Speaker 1: the beat in two fucking seconds, flack. Is that No,

621
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Speaker 1: that's not a big records when I performed.

622
00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:42,320
Speaker 5: But the thing about it is is that what you

623
00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:44,720
Speaker 5: have to you have to hear the voters first time,

624
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:48,200
Speaker 5: because now, but what all particular.

625
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:53,840
Speaker 3: Is one of the best hip hop as so much definite,

626
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:57,000
Speaker 3: so much from understand. I was on the War Report

627
00:30:57,280 --> 00:31:00,520
Speaker 3: and now you got me on another and and allly

628
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 3: that this is the year reunion that merged as a

629
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:06,080
Speaker 3: solo artist too, I mean your first, your first no

630
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:10,160
Speaker 3: sick is sick thinking, I.

631
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:12,280
Speaker 1: Mean like that, like to this day.

632
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:15,640
Speaker 12: I'm sorry, so I want to get Backti bating. What

633
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 12: happened was we wanted a premo be so bad right everybody,

634
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 12: and for some reason our schedules was messed up. And

635
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 12: then we went to D and D. We went to

636
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:30,000
Speaker 12: D and D and I felt like he needed something

637
00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:32,720
Speaker 12: from us and we just kept wasn't giving it to you?

638
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:37,480
Speaker 1: And then you just remember it was the sixth section.

639
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:38,760
Speaker 1: You said he's after going and.

640
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 3: And screened on it and I was like yo, and

641
00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:45,840
Speaker 3: I'm just saying, oh god too. And I was like, yo,

642
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 3: just meet me this, you know, I know he's on

643
00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:55,840
Speaker 3: and he was like yo, mane like you know, break

644
00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:00,760
Speaker 3: and in that day and you can't even like thirty.

645
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:09,040
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, I'm sorry, sorry the crazy He said, what's

646
00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:10,080
Speaker 3: your opening line?

647
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:12,560
Speaker 5: And I said that so you had that rhyme already.

648
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:15,240
Speaker 5: I had the rhyme already. I just was waiting for

649
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:18,040
Speaker 5: something perfect to go because that fit perfectly. I said

650
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 5: it and he said say it again.

651
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 1: He meant. I was like, right, my mind.

652
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 3: I was like.

653
00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 1: About to be at the television.

654
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:34,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, my turntable set up on a big old nineteen

655
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:38,000
Speaker 3: seventies television with the with the wood never with the.

656
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:40,400
Speaker 1: Record player on the twos, and I got the turntable

657
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:41,160
Speaker 1: in the mix on there.

658
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:43,720
Speaker 3: Capone sat right there and going, yo, I still can't

659
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:47,320
Speaker 3: believe I got a turntable on a television.

660
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:49,800
Speaker 1: Seven round there, And that's what he said.

661
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:54,720
Speaker 3: He said with the fifteen fan, I mean, with the panasonics,

662
00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 3: with everybody in the hood and the projects have a radio.

663
00:32:57,440 --> 00:32:59,960
Speaker 5: What we got to do right now, Premo is describe

664
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:05,440
Speaker 5: D and D Studios because that's like I'm pacle hip hop.

665
00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:10,640
Speaker 5: The studios was actually not nowhere neighborhood, nah, but it

666
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Speaker 5: was motherfucker.

667
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Speaker 1: It was block though in the city. But once you

668
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:16,360
Speaker 1: get into dn D, you in the project.

669
00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 2: But that was at that was.

670
00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:21,720
Speaker 1: That was a heroin block. Even when we started working

671
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:24,440
Speaker 1: there in ninety two, that was a heroin block.

672
00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:28,960
Speaker 3: So during that time, a renovant private before y'all started coming,

673
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:31,920
Speaker 3: it was drug central and there was no lights, so

674
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:34,680
Speaker 3: it was very dark. They ran a newspaper right across

675
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:36,920
Speaker 3: the street, so we used always beat with them. And

676
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 3: it was a lot of fighting and threats and and

677
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 3: I'll go get my gun and all this crazy stuff

678
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 3: back then, and and it was just I remember Heavy

679
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:47,000
Speaker 3: Diglis who came out and said, do we really got

680
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:48,160
Speaker 3: to finish the sound here?

681
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:52,320
Speaker 1: But you demanded the people give everything that.

682
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:54,960
Speaker 3: So have.

683
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:56,760
Speaker 1: I had to go. I went. I went and went

684
00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:58,600
Speaker 1: over to Hip Factory to finished working for them. And

685
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 1: he was like, Yo, this is Ryaney frame. And I

686
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:02,800
Speaker 1: was like, Yo, that's how I do it.

687
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:07,280
Speaker 5: You had a machine that had Philly cigars and what

688
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:10,160
Speaker 5: is it called the machine machine?

689
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:17,200
Speaker 1: The Vendom machine and Philly Did you have callers in

690
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:19,360
Speaker 1: there as well? I think you'd call it.

691
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:22,279
Speaker 2: It was kind It was.

692
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:25,919
Speaker 1: The way the dude we had to restock at least

693
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:27,960
Speaker 1: every week what.

694
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:30,680
Speaker 3: The philis were being.

695
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:31,840
Speaker 2: Know, I kid you not.

696
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:33,520
Speaker 5: I used to be like, because you know, every time

697
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:36,480
Speaker 5: we used to go to the studio, we always stopping cigars.

698
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:39,440
Speaker 5: But we went to DNNG and we never stopped. We

699
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:41,600
Speaker 5: said just go straight there. It was a little bit

700
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:50,440
Speaker 5: like more expensive, but it was like working. Recently, Pete

701
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 5: Kanye and jay Z just hired you.

702
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:58,360
Speaker 1: To do a joint Describe what what was that like

703
00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:01,640
Speaker 1: going on being black scene. Okay, I'm sorry I didn't.

704
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:10,279
Speaker 2: So he was being a kid in the candy store

705
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:13,600
Speaker 2: with me. Kanye gotten this new whip brand, new whip tags,

706
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:17,520
Speaker 2: doing me and him kid cutting in Hawaii's burning the

707
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:20,960
Speaker 2: road from zero to sixty in less than three seconds.

708
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:26,240
Speaker 2: That's that's how hot that got pulled over, Oh police,

709
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 2: because he's Kanye.

710
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:34,200
Speaker 1: But now when he gives you that call, because at

711
00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:36,319
Speaker 1: the end of the day, you represent the purest form

712
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 1: of hip hop. So when you get a call from Kanye,

713
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 1: what is your first reaction.

714
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:42,920
Speaker 2: I'm just going to bring all my knowledge around.

715
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:46,320
Speaker 8: And when I got there, he actually impressed me with

716
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:49,160
Speaker 8: what he knew what I'm saying and from my interluce

717
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:51,359
Speaker 8: to just like music in general.

718
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:55,040
Speaker 2: And how he respects him. So I knew he was

719
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:56,359
Speaker 2: on to something good from the start.

720
00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:59,399
Speaker 8: So I started helping him out like run away all

721
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:04,760
Speaker 8: asking in the bathroom, helping him out doing little beats,

722
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:08,759
Speaker 8: you know, you know, just hitting it popping. But when

723
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:11,640
Speaker 8: we got together and did the joy, I didn't know

724
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:15,440
Speaker 8: jay Z was gonna be on. My engineer at the

725
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 8: time was young girl, so young at the time at

726
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:23,840
Speaker 8: that time, So I was working with him, and you know,

727
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:27,279
Speaker 8: he called me and he said, Yo, listen to this

728
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:31,480
Speaker 8: and I was driving at the time, and he needs

729
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:33,480
Speaker 8: some boy scout on there and that was familiar to me.

730
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:43,120
Speaker 2: Pulled over her son who he's like, listen, listen. He

731
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:47,080
Speaker 2: played it against and I had to do that. Is

732
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 2: that jay Z finally get something together and finally he

733
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:56,719
Speaker 2: finally gets on the feat and it happened through Kanye, So.

734
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 1: The racket drive real good.

735
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 2: I was happy for that, even though Primon was already

736
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:09,319
Speaker 2: you know, deep into jay Z music.

737
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:17,160
Speaker 1: Let's make now premon you were actually on reason moved out.

738
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:21,240
Speaker 1: A lot of us done to D and D. That's correct,

739
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:22,239
Speaker 1: credits say D and D.

740
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:25,200
Speaker 5: So now this kid comes from now you already worked

741
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 5: with NAS, albums already outre you already crowned the top producer.

742
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:35,200
Speaker 5: But now this guy comes to you. He got some Brad,

743
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:38,439
Speaker 5: But I know you. You don't give a fuck about Brad.

744
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:41,800
Speaker 1: I know you, And did you know him from original flavor?

745
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:45,240
Speaker 3: I know before that before I knew Jay, probably about

746
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:48,759
Speaker 3: eighty seven because jazz O was on your mind. And

747
00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:51,120
Speaker 3: even when we got signed to your mind, which was

748
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 3: through Christmas the same distribution, Jay was Silver would always

749
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:57,759
Speaker 3: come up there with Jazz. Oh so, anytime Jazz would

750
00:37:57,760 --> 00:37:59,720
Speaker 3: show up to any club or whatever, Jay was always

751
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 3: with him.

752
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:02,560
Speaker 1: And back then Jay had the big long lukie case

753
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:07,439
Speaker 1: were go get squashed with. Yeah, we were talking about

754
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:16,279
Speaker 1: that drink chances squash And uh so, being he comes

755
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:17,879
Speaker 1: to you, what does he say to you? He says,

756
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:20,400
Speaker 1: pream because you've seen him in the industry.

757
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:24,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, and one thing about cream cream don't give everybody

758
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 5: a beat. Now, you got to prove yourself as a

759
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 5: real MC to get a beat. So what did jay

760
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:33,040
Speaker 5: Z do that you said?

761
00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:35,600
Speaker 1: I'm well, even when it got to the point of

762
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:37,640
Speaker 1: him hanging with the original flavor.

763
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:39,279
Speaker 3: But that's when I was selling the Bronx and each

764
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 3: other live down the block Ski so that down university

765
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:45,720
Speaker 3: down there, down the other way, down the hill, familiar

766
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:48,440
Speaker 3: from where we were. Uh you know, he goes uphill

767
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:50,839
Speaker 3: down everything, down the hill, up the hill were they were,

768
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 3: down the hill from from where I was. And uh so,

769
00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 3: being a new j already, it's crazy because Big l

770
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:03,120
Speaker 3: Well was already saying, yo, you know if you notice

771
00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:05,360
Speaker 3: a big l with with with Jay a lot, but

772
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:09,960
Speaker 3: also Ja managed right, Yeah, Yeah, they were they were

773
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:12,319
Speaker 3: merging into doing some work, which is how the rocket

774
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:14,399
Speaker 3: fellas situation was about to happen.

775
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:18,160
Speaker 1: But but I knew Jay also aside from the jazz

776
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:19,160
Speaker 1: oh winning through King.

777
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:23,040
Speaker 3: So you see him with Caine, mister misters from l

778
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 3: G projects. Yeah, and then Missus moved in.

779
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:29,799
Speaker 1: I think it was just on at somebody's house right now,

780
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:41,360
Speaker 1: people in your own come on, it's a family. We

781
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:42,120
Speaker 1: spread love.

782
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:47,200
Speaker 2: Getting my job.

783
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:51,759
Speaker 3: People there are about the hot contact because I've seen

784
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:55,239
Speaker 3: people go and I'm like, hey, you know.

785
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:57,320
Speaker 1: You know you told me to and I want you

786
00:39:57,360 --> 00:39:58,400
Speaker 1: to finish your story please.

787
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:02,279
Speaker 3: Fans all right, but I was.

788
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:07,120
Speaker 1: Actually drinking with Joe Pesty one night. He us right now,

789
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:09,959
Speaker 1: you did.

790
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:18,279
Speaker 3: Know it was.

791
00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:24,799
Speaker 1: The fans like he would not let me take a shot.

792
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:27,080
Speaker 5: But I look at and this is old school because

793
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:32,239
Speaker 5: in the nineties, so everybody else from Queens moved to

794
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 5: Long Island. I was the only asshole to move to

795
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 5: Jersey and so I was, you know, I was amongst

796
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:40,000
Speaker 5: you know there for some reason.

797
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:42,040
Speaker 1: I don't know why, but I always moved next to

798
00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:44,000
Speaker 1: the tire in my field. I'm sorry, I don't know,

799
00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:49,000
Speaker 1: but it's always something I live. You are looking at

800
00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:52,480
Speaker 1: the queens rear ready.

801
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:59,839
Speaker 5: I was going, oh yeah, bunch, I always with hard

802
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:03,399
Speaker 5: up Italians and and they just went and I say,

803
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:05,839
Speaker 5: why why I gotta look out the eye? They said,

804
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:08,040
Speaker 5: because in the mafia, if a person can't look at

805
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 5: you the eye and they take a shot, that's the

806
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:13,440
Speaker 5: person's gonna shoot you. And you know, back then it

807
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:15,880
Speaker 5: was like that, you know what I mean, it's not normal.

808
00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've been living by that, and I've been when

809
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:21,239
Speaker 3: somebody don't do that, I would say, hey, excuse me,

810
00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:24,560
Speaker 3: you just always look at me, and it's a it's

811
00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:25,920
Speaker 3: a very very fun thing.

812
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:28,240
Speaker 1: Well general, they can't look at you in the period

813
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:30,120
Speaker 1: it's reasonable down.

814
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:33,440
Speaker 13: So by the time you got the reason you did

815
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:37,480
Speaker 13: on reason three I did. I did the Evils at

816
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:40,880
Speaker 13: just three for three and anybody man full man and

817
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:44,160
Speaker 13: three yep, I mean, and and.

818
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:47,880
Speaker 1: You gotta also to manage me. You gotta manage me.

819
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:51,600
Speaker 1: By that time, me and jan knew each other so well.

820
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 1: But you know, I was doing for w b l

821
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:57,080
Speaker 1: S at the time and I was doing radio.

822
00:41:56,960 --> 00:42:00,200
Speaker 3: So Clark can't brought jay Z up there to let

823
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:03,279
Speaker 3: me uh here in my lifetime. The single that they

824
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:07,920
Speaker 3: themselves the original because they the I can't get with

825
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:10,960
Speaker 3: that with false money. As I met sau So when

826
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:13,120
Speaker 3: they brought it up during my commercial break and I

827
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:14,560
Speaker 3: heard it, I was like, yo, I'm gonna play this.

828
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 3: Had a lot of commercial break.

829
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:18,160
Speaker 1: They're like, but you just listen to you gonna You're

830
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 1: gonna play it now. I'm like, yeah, open the show

831
00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:22,520
Speaker 1: with it. Next thing, you know, Jay's like, you know,

832
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:24,280
Speaker 1: I got something before you give me a bottle Crystal.

833
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:26,160
Speaker 3: I didn't know who Cristal was because we were still

834
00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:29,360
Speaker 3: drinking more and he's like, you know, this is the

835
00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:32,160
Speaker 3: real deal champagne right here. There's a big, big ball

836
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:35,120
Speaker 3: of stuff. I was like, cool, and I saved for

837
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:38,480
Speaker 3: years and years save the bottle. Yeah, I'm finally drinking,

838
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:40,520
Speaker 3: you know, and that now for you know, Jay, don't

839
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:41,160
Speaker 3: fucking Crystal.

840
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:45,160
Speaker 1: But we don't go. I don't forget about so yeah.

841
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:49,400
Speaker 1: So now the space now space yea, So that's not

842
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:52,759
Speaker 1: the best, but it's okay, you know. I say that

843
00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:57,120
Speaker 1: was a birthday party.

844
00:42:58,040 --> 00:42:59,920
Speaker 3: Was the first time I take the space because Jay

845
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:01,839
Speaker 3: came to the birthday party and was like, I think

846
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:02,640
Speaker 3: nothing never tasted that.

847
00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:04,840
Speaker 1: He said, oh no, he pour poured me a glass

848
00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:07,640
Speaker 1: and we had slammed down. I'm on a whiskey. I'm

849
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:10,960
Speaker 1: a brown liquor guy, whiskey. Gud Now, let me before

850
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:14,480
Speaker 1: we get into this, into the interview.

851
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 3: So, so Dame approached well, Jay approached me about it

852
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:21,560
Speaker 3: since we had had a friendship already, and then he

853
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:22,440
Speaker 3: introduced me to Dame.

854
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:24,520
Speaker 1: I used to see Dame and in the Bronx walking

855
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:26,120
Speaker 1: his dogs all the time.

856
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:27,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, he always had his dogs, and he was walking

857
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:29,520
Speaker 3: around because he was going to see Chubby Chubb.

858
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:32,239
Speaker 5: And Steve because he was handling managing them, and said,

859
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:34,840
Speaker 5: Chubby Chubby, Chubby Chuff d Yeah, j.

860
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 1: Chummy Chuff original flavor. As it's a big DJ in Boston.

861
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:40,240
Speaker 1: In Boston, Okay, Boston.

862
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:42,680
Speaker 3: So, so Dame used to be around there walking his

863
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:45,120
Speaker 3: dogs all the time. So we met then, but it

864
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:47,200
Speaker 3: was just small talking. We were just you know, everybody

865
00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:48,319
Speaker 3: knew Gangshaw was at the time.

866
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:49,600
Speaker 1: We were we were known enough.

867
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 3: So from there, Jay said, this is gotta handles the business.

868
00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:55,640
Speaker 3: So I went down with him, tolding my much. I said,

869
00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:59,319
Speaker 3: because it's Jay, it's all love. I'm only gonna charge

870
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:02,840
Speaker 3: you four thousands, which was very very very lucky.

871
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:05,280
Speaker 1: And I don't believe in luck, but that's a blessing

872
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:07,279
Speaker 1: for me to give you that type of number. We

873
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:09,360
Speaker 1: went in the back. They gave me the cash and

874
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:10,440
Speaker 1: I started getting busy.

875
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:11,480
Speaker 3: Now Jacob.

876
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:22,800
Speaker 2: And and and and here you go.

877
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:25,520
Speaker 3: So Jay called me and said, I got this song

878
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:28,759
Speaker 3: called the Heavil. He explained it to me, and my god,

879
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:32,799
Speaker 3: he explained it to me. Then he wrapped the whole

880
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:35,440
Speaker 3: song on the phone. Then after he wrapped it on

881
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 3: the phone, then he gave me the scratch idea and said,

882
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:40,000
Speaker 3: what do you mean?

883
00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:42,360
Speaker 1: He said, I want to judge, So he had it

884
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:43,000
Speaker 1: all mapped up.

885
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:45,239
Speaker 3: You saved me.

886
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:47,759
Speaker 2: He got my mind.

887
00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:49,839
Speaker 1: I can't die. I can't.

888
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:51,520
Speaker 14: Even though he said, make it go, I can't gave you.

889
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:55,000
Speaker 14: He knew that he knew the samples. He want, not

890
00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:57,800
Speaker 14: sample to make the beat. He just he gave me

891
00:44:57,880 --> 00:44:59,600
Speaker 14: the idea of how to. He said, this is the

892
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:02,759
Speaker 14: apps feel I want musically, but I want you to,

893
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:05,880
Speaker 14: no matter what you make, do these scratches. And I

894
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:07,479
Speaker 14: went down there and I said, yo, I'll be ready

895
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:08,319
Speaker 14: by the time you get there.

896
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 1: And it was ready. And when he walked in, I said,

897
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 1: the scratches That's what I'm saying that he the cut.

898
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:23,800
Speaker 1: He said, hey, yeah, estamples, he picked that already on

899
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:28,480
Speaker 1: the phone on the phone, so so he had that

900
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:29,919
Speaker 1: well thought out and you know, so crazy.

901
00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:33,480
Speaker 3: Him and Biggie's are always lay the cup vocals. And

902
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:35,640
Speaker 3: then they both to leave and go all right, do.

903
00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:38,359
Speaker 1: The premier thing. And they both said the same thing,

904
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:40,279
Speaker 1: do the premier thing. They wouldn't sit there like y,

905
00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:42,400
Speaker 1: I gotta watch you, man, I gotta make sure it's right.

906
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:43,719
Speaker 1: Do the premier thing.

907
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:45,360
Speaker 3: Were going out and they would leave and let me

908
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:49,040
Speaker 3: just do my thing. I might have said, you did

909
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:51,680
Speaker 3: it in the first dround.

910
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:53,239
Speaker 1: You know I'm good.

911
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:59,719
Speaker 5: So now, Pete Rock, you established your super producer. You

912
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:02,880
Speaker 5: if you've done everything you work with the best, what

913
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:05,720
Speaker 5: makes you say I want to do a whole album?

914
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:09,640
Speaker 1: First off with Duck Down before smoke this, because you

915
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:12,319
Speaker 1: you did a whole He did the Loud, the joint

916
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:13,719
Speaker 1: on Loud, did Smith.

917
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:15,839
Speaker 2: And Wesson Soul Survivor too?

918
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 1: With Yeah.

919
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:23,000
Speaker 2: Everybody Aloud?

920
00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:30,319
Speaker 5: You know it was crazy and then the best make

921
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:32,439
Speaker 5: you say, you know what, I'm gonna do a whole

922
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:34,560
Speaker 5: project with Smith and Wesson.

923
00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:37,840
Speaker 2: I think it was just the all and it just

924
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:39,600
Speaker 2: made me say, you know what, Damn, I love all

925
00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:42,319
Speaker 2: these two. If I could make a joint with him.

926
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:44,760
Speaker 8: Then I went to Steve. He was with the idea.

927
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:47,800
Speaker 8: I knew he could make make it happen, you know.

928
00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:50,759
Speaker 8: Then I was on the label they signed me, and

929
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:53,360
Speaker 8: I was like, wow, okay, the one album deal. But

930
00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:56,560
Speaker 8: I said, no, I'm gonna make this one real good.

931
00:46:56,960 --> 00:46:59,160
Speaker 2: I'm saying. And then look I got the count and

932
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:02,200
Speaker 2: hand me. Let me just see what's happen. And then boom,

933
00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:03,560
Speaker 2: I'm just go in and start.

934
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:06,399
Speaker 1: Thinking in the half man and now you got a joint.

935
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:07,680
Speaker 2: It's funny.

936
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:10,560
Speaker 1: The ship with me and you house most strange, real

937
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:13,000
Speaker 1: close with each other, like are we talking strange food

938
00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:13,359
Speaker 1: right now?

939
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:18,279
Speaker 2: You know we're talking. We're talking and the fat albat

940
00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:19,759
Speaker 2: Johnson the ship on.

941
00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:24,480
Speaker 1: So there, Yeah, had I had such a great time

942
00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:27,920
Speaker 1: studio What was the green studio? Yeah you was? You

943
00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:30,960
Speaker 1: was green Street? Yeah you know you look at my

944
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:37,000
Speaker 1: memory memory of Pete it was Green Street, but that

945
00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:40,120
Speaker 1: was way down to that was that was his. That

946
00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:43,600
Speaker 1: was like Jamie friends in my house.

947
00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:47,160
Speaker 2: The flood I came in right after that and the

948
00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:48,920
Speaker 2: whole story.

949
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:54,360
Speaker 1: About you missed.

950
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:59,920
Speaker 3: It was like.

951
00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:02,520
Speaker 2: Shot a bullet holes.

952
00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:04,480
Speaker 1: Bullet holes in the warm. It's still in the wall.

953
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:05,600
Speaker 1: God damn, that's makes some.

954
00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:13,120
Speaker 2: Regardless, you know, it was a great time and great

955
00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:14,080
Speaker 2: test was my home.

956
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:18,160
Speaker 1: That's so who was it? It was me? Pun in common, Me,

957
00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:21,000
Speaker 1: pun in common. What a combination? That's yeah.

958
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:22,839
Speaker 2: Me and pun got real tight.

959
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:23,480
Speaker 10: You know what I mean?

960
00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:25,520
Speaker 1: No, listen, Pete, let me just tell you something. We

961
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:27,880
Speaker 1: were so hoarded to come back if we had a

962
00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:34,920
Speaker 1: ball or the pieces. It was Green Street Studios.

963
00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:37,879
Speaker 5: I could never forget it because you know, Pete showed

964
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:39,920
Speaker 5: me and I remember I had the Cardier frames on

965
00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:42,799
Speaker 5: at that time too, and I also and I also

966
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:46,040
Speaker 5: had a very important sweater on and I worked from Miami.

967
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:50,160
Speaker 5: It was called because this is the guy who designed Iceberg.

968
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:52,080
Speaker 5: But then he went and did his own thing and

969
00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:54,440
Speaker 5: I forgot what it was called. But it was some

970
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:57,160
Speaker 5: fly ship and I bought it from bout Harborough and

971
00:48:57,239 --> 00:48:59,239
Speaker 5: I only wore the peate rock super got that makes

972
00:48:59,280 --> 00:48:59,600
Speaker 5: a noise.

973
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:09,160
Speaker 1: So now, you guys, you work with knobs, You worked

974
00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:11,799
Speaker 1: with ja Have you ever worked with Beg? You never

975
00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:12,319
Speaker 1: worked a bit?

976
00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:15,600
Speaker 2: He'd been to my crib. He was picking my in

977
00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:20,080
Speaker 2: the little beats and he's like, you know, and then

978
00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:22,279
Speaker 2: you know he heard the idea of juicy at my

979
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:25,920
Speaker 2: baseball you know, the one that brought Big to the

980
00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:27,600
Speaker 2: to my house. You know, we all from.

981
00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:33,880
Speaker 8: Puffers from dell Avenue and Mount Vernon and do it

982
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:37,000
Speaker 8: bigg to the crib and he's just like, yo, Big,

983
00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:38,520
Speaker 8: He's like, yo, I just won't see how you make

984
00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:38,879
Speaker 8: a beat.

985
00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:43,239
Speaker 2: And then I made this be called uh that's a

986
00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:46,080
Speaker 2: song called in the Flesh on the main ingredient, and

987
00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:51,160
Speaker 2: I made that. He wanted it, you know, but it didn't.

988
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:54,080
Speaker 8: Happen somehow, but we ended up using it for an hour.

989
00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:56,480
Speaker 8: But he was there and saw the process.

990
00:49:56,640 --> 00:50:00,520
Speaker 5: But now described that because now you know offers from

991
00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:02,920
Speaker 5: Malvern So you look at him like a pier. But

992
00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:05,960
Speaker 5: now do you do you realize that this guy that

993
00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:09,520
Speaker 5: he just rung to your studio is the most legendary.

994
00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:12,240
Speaker 1: Person in the world. You knew what you do already.

995
00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:14,840
Speaker 5: The order was because I think puff came on the

996
00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:18,040
Speaker 5: show and he's squire big as disruptive, Like his look

997
00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:18,440
Speaker 5: was there.

998
00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:20,520
Speaker 1: Did you get that feeling?

999
00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:23,480
Speaker 2: I didn't even pay attention to that. I was I

1000
00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:24,560
Speaker 2: was about to skip.

1001
00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:25,120
Speaker 1: The lyrics.

1002
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:30,279
Speaker 2: Homely, I got to beat the match, you know what

1003
00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:33,160
Speaker 2: I mean, let's keep some poppings. But he heard the

1004
00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:36,600
Speaker 2: idea of juicy and just you know, I didn't actually

1005
00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:38,120
Speaker 2: do the actual rich, but I.

1006
00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:40,759
Speaker 8: Ended up doing the remix and that was the only

1007
00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:44,120
Speaker 8: thing I get big at them. But you know, if

1008
00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:47,520
Speaker 8: you know he did pick beats, you know, we just

1009
00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:48,799
Speaker 8: didn't get a chance to him.

1010
00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:50,840
Speaker 1: But yeah, he knew what he wanted to rap to.

1011
00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:51,279
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1012
00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:56,520
Speaker 1: Man, now you primo, how did you first meet there?

1013
00:50:57,120 --> 00:51:01,680
Speaker 1: I met Big when we moved actual Brooklyn's for green

1014
00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:05,000
Speaker 1: living with Branford, not in a lot of rough places.

1015
00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:11,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah we will this way when Branford, when

1016
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:15,480
Speaker 3: Brandford Valley officially moved out and went to California, we

1017
00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:19,600
Speaker 3: turned this place into a frat house, party house. Was

1018
00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:24,800
Speaker 3: jes was where Washington life yet and green and this

1019
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:27,520
Speaker 3: Brooklyn yeah brook Okay, it's old school Brooklyn.

1020
00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:33,000
Speaker 1: Ye, so that you can get get spots every other

1021
00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:40,400
Speaker 1: storm shot coming out. He's like you that shoot him

1022
00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:43,120
Speaker 1: up corner and it's not this is not this is

1023
00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:44,920
Speaker 1: not the vegans.

1024
00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:52,080
Speaker 3: This is this is himpster, hipster, the old English. Yeah

1025
00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:56,560
Speaker 3: you know this when Biggie wore the same green. This

1026
00:51:56,640 --> 00:51:58,919
Speaker 3: is when in Biggie the Biggie wore the same green

1027
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:01,680
Speaker 3: on me Jack and the sleeves were about the right

1028
00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:06,880
Speaker 3: ri showing, but he bore it all the time. I

1029
00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:09,439
Speaker 3: knew Nino Chico sees Kim.

1030
00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:10,879
Speaker 1: Would they bring you this guy?

1031
00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:13,920
Speaker 3: No, Miss, I gotta give mister c the credit, miss,

1032
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:17,720
Speaker 3: But he's from the beginning with Yeah.

1033
00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:20,480
Speaker 1: He was annoying me, like yo, he wouldn't be I

1034
00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:23,880
Speaker 1: g yet he was Biggie Smalls and I mean somebody

1035
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:26,360
Speaker 1: else had Biggie small, so that he just dad. But

1036
00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:28,239
Speaker 1: I used to a lot of shoulder with Caine, and

1037
00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:29,920
Speaker 1: there was times that I couldn't.

1038
00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:32,680
Speaker 3: My turntables got damaged because back then you carried your

1039
00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:34,640
Speaker 3: equipment on tour and uh.

1040
00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:40,120
Speaker 1: And you're right, d he want he wanted to still

1041
00:52:40,120 --> 00:52:44,120
Speaker 1: bring his He got run out, mister his.

1042
00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:47,560
Speaker 3: Turntables right before Caine took the stage so the gang

1043
00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:49,000
Speaker 3: start could perform so well.

1044
00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:49,320
Speaker 1: Again.

1045
00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:51,040
Speaker 3: He lived right down the block from all the weak

1046
00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:53,279
Speaker 3: spots that we knew, and so you gotta go out,

1047
00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:56,719
Speaker 3: mister Sea and the wet spots right there, the new one,

1048
00:52:56,800 --> 00:52:58,239
Speaker 3: the one is like oh no, no, that one was

1049
00:52:58,280 --> 00:53:04,200
Speaker 3: dead this one and so the nice Franklin Abe. So

1050
00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:07,840
Speaker 3: then during that time, Missus steves to call me go

1051
00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:09,879
Speaker 3: pream Biggie Small, Biggie Small.

1052
00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:11,480
Speaker 1: I'm like, see, I'm gonna listen.

1053
00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:14,640
Speaker 3: To it, like, ex, give me some time weeks past, yo,

1054
00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:17,360
Speaker 3: Pream Biggie Small. That's why I'm like, yo, see before

1055
00:53:18,280 --> 00:53:21,040
Speaker 3: yeah right, yeah, just Biggie small and Biggie Small big.

1056
00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:22,880
Speaker 3: And I'm like, dude, I'm gonna listen to it because

1057
00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:24,120
Speaker 3: we're pretty busy that at that time.

1058
00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:26,880
Speaker 1: I read it Monday, I listened to it, liked it

1059
00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:29,160
Speaker 1: like the demos that I heard, And then I met

1060
00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:31,400
Speaker 1: Big on the corner. I was going to the corner store.

1061
00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:34,520
Speaker 3: Me Guru, Big Sugar Dap, and Dap was in love

1062
00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:36,120
Speaker 3: with Little Kim, and Little Kim was like the way

1063
00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:37,200
Speaker 3: they like.

1064
00:53:37,239 --> 00:53:45,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, y'allkind yeah, that's this very shout.

1065
00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:50,640
Speaker 3: Yeah. And that family MELICOI Melkai got locked up for

1066
00:53:50,719 --> 00:53:54,280
Speaker 3: many homes, well home Melicott. You know, we all connected

1067
00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:57,239
Speaker 3: me jaw, all of us are still good. So uh

1068
00:53:57,560 --> 00:54:00,640
Speaker 3: So then Big was like, yo, see she told you.

1069
00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:02,839
Speaker 3: You told me he's been stressing you. I was like, yeah,

1070
00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:05,359
Speaker 3: I finally heard it. I said, we gotta get something

1071
00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:07,800
Speaker 3: in and then he goes, Joe puffing is that? This

1072
00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:10,279
Speaker 3: is what he said, Puffing is interressing, is signing me.

1073
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:16,239
Speaker 3: So this is how far back before ninety he said,

1074
00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:17,520
Speaker 3: puff addressing and signed him.

1075
00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:18,440
Speaker 1: I said, dude, go with him.

1076
00:54:18,560 --> 00:54:21,400
Speaker 3: I said, puff of Puff not only has money, he

1077
00:54:21,520 --> 00:54:23,600
Speaker 3: got a vision. He gonna blow you up.

1078
00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:25,239
Speaker 1: He said, well, I don't know, man, you know, I

1079
00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:26,240
Speaker 1: want to keep his hood.

1080
00:54:26,320 --> 00:54:28,400
Speaker 3: I'm like, yo, he don't want to go with go

1081
00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:30,560
Speaker 3: with puff? Wow, you know, and then boom, next thing

1082
00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:33,359
Speaker 3: you know, Puff started coming around. And actually I tell

1083
00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:33,759
Speaker 3: people this.

1084
00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:39,319
Speaker 1: Puff was the first one, because Puff is the first.

1085
00:54:39,680 --> 00:54:43,000
Speaker 5: Remember state, Yeah, but so what was the first record

1086
00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:45,480
Speaker 5: you actually worked on with a big Unbelievable?

1087
00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:52,880
Speaker 1: Oh believe this is actually what trick. This is what trickleed.

1088
00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:55,239
Speaker 1: That was a single trickle.

1089
00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:57,840
Speaker 3: Down into why I gave jay Z and him the

1090
00:54:57,880 --> 00:55:03,040
Speaker 3: price a lower price for a reasonable doubt, because when

1091
00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:08,319
Speaker 3: we did Unbelievable the the the budget had run out

1092
00:55:08,719 --> 00:55:10,440
Speaker 3: for Big and I told Big, I don't have.

1093
00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:12,320
Speaker 1: Time to make a beat, and he goes, yo, I

1094
00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:17,000
Speaker 1: got five thousand dollars And I was like, you know,

1095
00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:18,920
Speaker 1: but we were already cool with each other.

1096
00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:21,399
Speaker 3: But I felt weird telling him no, But I really

1097
00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:22,840
Speaker 3: didn't have the time and I'm a person.

1098
00:55:23,360 --> 00:55:25,640
Speaker 1: Then Pete will tell you this. I make the beat

1099
00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:26,160
Speaker 1: on the spot.

1100
00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:29,399
Speaker 3: And now that's something that people don't realize. I don't

1101
00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:31,160
Speaker 3: have like twenty beats and go your pick one, like.

1102
00:55:31,480 --> 00:55:34,840
Speaker 1: Taking number six and number four number that's a real.

1103
00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:36,440
Speaker 2: Beat.

1104
00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:39,520
Speaker 1: They said that that's what they do. They make it

1105
00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:42,640
Speaker 1: to the artists. So I didn't have nothing for big.

1106
00:55:42,719 --> 00:55:43,279
Speaker 1: That was dope.

1107
00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:44,759
Speaker 3: You know. I'd be like, come on, man, I know

1108
00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:47,200
Speaker 3: you got something's like I don't. I really don't. You

1109
00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:50,200
Speaker 3: come here, we can make it big old. I don't

1110
00:55:50,239 --> 00:55:52,640
Speaker 3: care if you're taking piece of president and just some

1111
00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:57,160
Speaker 3: funny stab sounds and you know he knew the slag. Yeah,

1112
00:55:57,160 --> 00:56:01,440
Speaker 3: and you know what we're saying product in the production era.

1113
00:56:01,840 --> 00:56:04,040
Speaker 3: So he said, I don't give it's just some stabs.

1114
00:56:04,080 --> 00:56:07,200
Speaker 1: I said a word. So coming up tonight, then that's

1115
00:56:07,239 --> 00:56:09,160
Speaker 1: what happened. He comes up. I said, I'll take the

1116
00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:09,920
Speaker 1: five thousand.

1117
00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:12,239
Speaker 3: I said, but if you get a deal and you

1118
00:56:12,440 --> 00:56:16,600
Speaker 3: go platinum, I won thirty five thousand dollars per track.

1119
00:56:17,320 --> 00:56:21,960
Speaker 1: Wow. After after him, Yeah, we did the song.

1120
00:56:23,640 --> 00:56:27,640
Speaker 11: Negotiation it's crazy in this ninety five, there's ninety five.

1121
00:56:27,719 --> 00:56:31,000
Speaker 3: He comes in, we do the song. It becomes the

1122
00:56:31,160 --> 00:56:34,120
Speaker 3: B side of Juicy. It was like the street singles

1123
00:56:34,200 --> 00:56:36,160
Speaker 3: for Juicy. It was my first gold single.

1124
00:56:36,239 --> 00:56:37,000
Speaker 1: So I was a wow.

1125
00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:39,520
Speaker 3: As soon as he got the deal to up the money.

1126
00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:42,279
Speaker 3: I remember, he goes, yo, I got to check for it.

1127
00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:44,560
Speaker 3: You said thirty five, right, He said, I got. I

1128
00:56:44,640 --> 00:56:47,200
Speaker 3: got two of them and brought me to check and

1129
00:56:47,360 --> 00:56:49,000
Speaker 3: Puffy gave me the check and I was like, wow,

1130
00:56:49,080 --> 00:56:49,839
Speaker 3: he kept his word.

1131
00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:52,560
Speaker 1: Oh so this was it on paper. This is a word.

1132
00:56:52,680 --> 00:56:58,960
Speaker 1: It was like a handshake ship. Yeah, that's big. Damn damn,

1133
00:56:59,320 --> 00:57:03,239
Speaker 1: you learned it. So it's hip hop history. Getting thirty back,

1134
00:57:03,320 --> 00:57:07,400
Speaker 1: thirty five back then no triple, that's ninety.

1135
00:57:09,480 --> 00:57:09,520
Speaker 3: So.

1136
00:57:09,680 --> 00:57:13,759
Speaker 5: Now let me ask you, because you the reputation is

1137
00:57:13,840 --> 00:57:18,280
Speaker 5: like the most hip hoppis of hip hoppis now Janet Jackson.

1138
00:57:18,360 --> 00:57:22,160
Speaker 1: You work with Janet Jackson, You work with Christina Million,

1139
00:57:25,240 --> 00:57:26,760
Speaker 1: you worked did you work with Britney Spears?

1140
00:57:27,240 --> 00:57:27,280
Speaker 3: No?

1141
00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:32,520
Speaker 5: So just is crazy. As a hip hop producer. You

1142
00:57:32,640 --> 00:57:35,120
Speaker 5: get this call, what is your first thing to say

1143
00:57:35,280 --> 00:57:36,000
Speaker 5: for Christina?

1144
00:57:36,320 --> 00:57:39,000
Speaker 1: Yeah? Because you know that wasn't her, dude, that put

1145
00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:41,600
Speaker 1: her on her ex husband JORDI had put her on

1146
00:57:41,760 --> 00:57:43,840
Speaker 1: some of my stuff, but she liked it. So she

1147
00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:45,600
Speaker 1: called me and goes, yo, I just heard the group

1148
00:57:45,680 --> 00:57:53,880
Speaker 1: home album. Oh Ship, that's that's wait what Christian she

1149
00:57:54,160 --> 00:57:54,560
Speaker 1: just heard?

1150
00:57:55,600 --> 00:57:58,080
Speaker 3: I met at the Chateau Mama down the hill on

1151
00:57:58,200 --> 00:57:59,640
Speaker 3: sunset you kind of front.

1152
00:58:05,360 --> 00:58:08,840
Speaker 1: In Germany, clean shatter.

1153
00:58:08,640 --> 00:58:10,240
Speaker 3: My moms with a lot of a lot of wigs,

1154
00:58:10,360 --> 00:58:16,120
Speaker 3: big wigs, lamp and drinking and get enough money. Right

1155
00:58:16,160 --> 00:58:18,600
Speaker 3: down the hill, it's right before tower, like right after

1156
00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:21,040
Speaker 3: the Beast Tower records or any little the big Tower

1157
00:58:21,080 --> 00:58:23,720
Speaker 3: records right there and it's got a big neon size

1158
00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:25,520
Speaker 3: and shout told my mom with bushes so you can't

1159
00:58:25,560 --> 00:58:26,560
Speaker 3: really see the spot.

1160
00:58:27,200 --> 00:58:29,840
Speaker 1: And she said, my rolls Royce is outside. I saw

1161
00:58:29,920 --> 00:58:33,440
Speaker 1: the white the white fan. I said, she's here, walk in.

1162
00:58:33,600 --> 00:58:35,480
Speaker 1: She's sitting there with Jordie. She goes, you know, I

1163
00:58:35,600 --> 00:58:41,400
Speaker 1: love Goopong and I was like, that's Brando pinpoint crazy

1164
00:58:41,680 --> 00:58:47,760
Speaker 1: Grimy is out like like like the jazz samples I

1165
00:58:47,880 --> 00:58:48,760
Speaker 1: used on some of the games.

1166
00:58:49,600 --> 00:58:50,240
Speaker 2: So she liked.

1167
00:58:51,480 --> 00:58:55,880
Speaker 1: She liked the jazz things. She like worked, she liked

1168
00:58:55,920 --> 00:58:59,560
Speaker 1: the Yeah she works like you know my Steves even

1169
00:58:59,560 --> 00:59:02,320
Speaker 1: though that was a song. But the song she was

1170
00:59:02,440 --> 00:59:05,720
Speaker 1: naming with joints like wow, that attracted you to want

1171
00:59:05,720 --> 00:59:08,200
Speaker 1: to work with me. Let's go in. And then we

1172
00:59:08,360 --> 00:59:10,760
Speaker 1: ended up we were suposed to do one record, which

1173
00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:12,240
Speaker 1: was called we were called back in the day.

1174
00:59:12,920 --> 00:59:14,600
Speaker 3: Next thing you know, she was like, Yo, stay here

1175
00:59:14,640 --> 00:59:16,360
Speaker 3: a couple more weeks and we just started banging out

1176
00:59:16,400 --> 00:59:18,600
Speaker 3: and turned it into five records. And then that was

1177
00:59:18,640 --> 00:59:21,120
Speaker 3: the first Grammy I ever got for a single, whereas

1178
00:59:21,240 --> 00:59:22,880
Speaker 3: you know, not for for being on the album. I

1179
00:59:22,880 --> 00:59:25,320
Speaker 3: got a Grammy for D'Angelo being up working on the

1180
00:59:25,360 --> 00:59:27,560
Speaker 3: album and for jay Z on Hannack Life. But to

1181
00:59:27,600 --> 00:59:31,080
Speaker 3: get one for the single is singles out all the

1182
00:59:31,160 --> 00:59:33,560
Speaker 3: other songs on the album. It's like, for that one song,

1183
00:59:33,680 --> 00:59:34,480
Speaker 3: you got a Grammy.

1184
00:59:34,560 --> 00:59:37,120
Speaker 1: So that was a big monumental name of my career.

1185
00:59:37,200 --> 00:59:39,560
Speaker 1: It was dope. It was beautiful. Man make a noise

1186
00:59:39,600 --> 00:59:40,240
Speaker 1: for that. God damn it.

1187
00:59:43,480 --> 00:59:47,840
Speaker 5: Who was it that you said, you work with them,

1188
00:59:48,440 --> 00:59:51,040
Speaker 5: but you wanted to see them right the rhyme and

1189
00:59:51,560 --> 00:59:52,120
Speaker 5: they face.

1190
00:59:54,480 --> 00:59:57,080
Speaker 1: It was somebody I forget. I'll work with them, but

1191
00:59:57,120 --> 00:59:59,240
Speaker 1: I want to see them right the rhyme right the rhyme.

1192
00:59:59,280 --> 01:00:00,920
Speaker 1: I think it was like a Justin Bieber.

1193
01:00:01,400 --> 01:00:07,080
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, yeah, you know the cipher which I've

1194
01:00:07,080 --> 01:00:09,160
Speaker 3: been doing, that was the site there. Yeah, we didn't

1195
01:00:09,200 --> 01:00:11,680
Speaker 3: know the cipher for BT hip hopwa was gonna even

1196
01:00:11,720 --> 01:00:12,320
Speaker 3: get this big.

1197
01:00:12,960 --> 01:00:16,080
Speaker 1: It was an idea. Shouting shot to Jesse Collins and

1198
01:00:16,200 --> 01:00:17,080
Speaker 1: congratulations to.

1199
01:00:17,120 --> 01:00:21,040
Speaker 3: Jesse Collins for doing real well with a new edition story.

1200
01:00:21,120 --> 01:00:23,440
Speaker 3: That was his idea and it blew up and did

1201
01:00:23,800 --> 01:00:25,920
Speaker 3: really really well, did big numbers. And Justice is a

1202
01:00:26,000 --> 01:00:29,000
Speaker 3: good friend of mine. We arguing, fight a lot over

1203
01:00:29,160 --> 01:00:31,080
Speaker 3: and know it's wrong if you do it this way.

1204
01:00:31,120 --> 01:00:32,720
Speaker 3: You know it's right if you do it this way.

1205
01:00:33,120 --> 01:00:34,840
Speaker 3: We fight a lot, but he's such a good friend

1206
01:00:34,880 --> 01:00:37,680
Speaker 3: that we always find a compromise. When he brought up

1207
01:00:37,720 --> 01:00:39,600
Speaker 3: the idea of doing the cipher, it was a one

1208
01:00:39,760 --> 01:00:45,680
Speaker 3: time thing. It was Pat Poo's styles, p Remy who

1209
01:00:45,760 --> 01:00:49,280
Speaker 3: else was in it rom Fest and then it was

1210
01:00:49,360 --> 01:00:52,040
Speaker 3: a second one and those two I couldn't make it

1211
01:00:52,040 --> 01:00:54,200
Speaker 3: because I was on tour, so I had DJ Scratch

1212
01:00:54,280 --> 01:00:55,800
Speaker 3: fill in for me. I just gave him the beat

1213
01:00:56,000 --> 01:00:58,600
Speaker 3: and said let's keep it break beach only you know,

1214
01:00:58,640 --> 01:01:00,760
Speaker 3: because something now is that elevation and if you're like yo, man,

1215
01:01:00,760 --> 01:01:01,640
Speaker 3: I need something to turn up to.

1216
01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:04,160
Speaker 1: It's like, no, this is the pure form of how

1217
01:01:04,200 --> 01:01:05,640
Speaker 1: we do it. We're keeping the break beat, so are

1218
01:01:05,640 --> 01:01:08,040
Speaker 1: you're a producer on that PI specific thing. I picked

1219
01:01:08,040 --> 01:01:08,800
Speaker 1: the beat, I'll loop it.

1220
01:01:09,160 --> 01:01:12,040
Speaker 3: I'll do maybefore James Brown loop a break beef from

1221
01:01:12,080 --> 01:01:15,040
Speaker 3: Ultimate breaks and beats whatever, and I'll send those and whatever.

1222
01:01:15,080 --> 01:01:15,200
Speaker 2: One.

1223
01:01:15,280 --> 01:01:17,240
Speaker 1: Jesse's like, yo, I like this one. We'll clear it

1224
01:01:17,600 --> 01:01:19,680
Speaker 1: with whoever owns it, and then we'll send it to

1225
01:01:19,760 --> 01:01:20,960
Speaker 1: all the artists and we.

1226
01:01:21,120 --> 01:01:26,320
Speaker 3: Tell them sixteen bars and quick everybody's got ninety bars everything,

1227
01:01:26,320 --> 01:01:28,600
Speaker 3: and it's like they never follow the rules. Then they

1228
01:01:28,640 --> 01:01:30,720
Speaker 3: get mad, like yo, they edited my stuff. It's like no,

1229
01:01:31,440 --> 01:01:34,680
Speaker 3: he told you sixteen and quit right and again it

1230
01:01:34,840 --> 01:01:35,480
Speaker 3: was one time.

1231
01:01:35,600 --> 01:01:39,400
Speaker 1: Only. Second year comes around up to set cipher, They're like,

1232
01:01:39,560 --> 01:01:42,600
Speaker 1: we want to do it again. Now they got three ciphers,

1233
01:01:43,040 --> 01:01:45,600
Speaker 1: then that turning the four ciphers after that.

1234
01:01:46,160 --> 01:01:48,200
Speaker 3: Now it's starting to get ciphers where they're starting to

1235
01:01:48,240 --> 01:01:49,520
Speaker 3: put a lot of artists.

1236
01:01:49,240 --> 01:01:52,600
Speaker 1: That I'm like, nah, nah, they can't rhyme, don't put

1237
01:01:52,640 --> 01:01:53,120
Speaker 1: them in there.

1238
01:01:53,560 --> 01:01:56,040
Speaker 3: And it's going into that stage of it where now

1239
01:01:56,120 --> 01:01:59,560
Speaker 3: it's like where they're popular, they're no more known than

1240
01:01:59,640 --> 01:02:02,160
Speaker 3: the kill them seas. I'm like, yeah, but if you're

1241
01:02:02,200 --> 01:02:06,400
Speaker 3: taking away the skill that that causes problems with the authenticity.

1242
01:02:06,520 --> 01:02:08,880
Speaker 3: And that's why I have a problem because I wanted

1243
01:02:08,920 --> 01:02:11,720
Speaker 3: to stay authentic. Yeah, but all the fans love them,

1244
01:02:11,760 --> 01:02:13,720
Speaker 3: and they're on TV and they're on every video, and

1245
01:02:13,960 --> 01:02:16,720
Speaker 3: these other guys nobody's paying attention to them. I'm like, well,

1246
01:02:16,760 --> 01:02:18,480
Speaker 3: you know what they're going to pay attention to when

1247
01:02:18,520 --> 01:02:21,160
Speaker 3: they see how dope they spread beat. So we always

1248
01:02:21,200 --> 01:02:25,160
Speaker 3: have that fight. One year, they say, yo, what do

1249
01:02:25,200 --> 01:02:27,560
Speaker 3: you think of Justin Bieber was spitting on the sipher.

1250
01:02:27,640 --> 01:02:30,160
Speaker 3: I said, I don't know he heard it, as long

1251
01:02:30,240 --> 01:02:33,080
Speaker 3: as he writes to rhyme and if it's a dope rohm,

1252
01:02:33,160 --> 01:02:36,240
Speaker 3: let's do He said, what if somebody else writes?

1253
01:02:36,440 --> 01:02:44,200
Speaker 1: I said, no, that was it with roomors being saying

1254
01:02:44,200 --> 01:02:45,840
Speaker 1: that I mentioned this person this person.

1255
01:02:46,000 --> 01:02:49,240
Speaker 3: No, it was just as simple. If he's going to

1256
01:02:49,320 --> 01:02:51,560
Speaker 3: do it, let him spit. And and so next thing,

1257
01:02:51,640 --> 01:02:55,240
Speaker 3: you know, it's next thing he turns in the whole

1258
01:02:55,280 --> 01:02:59,120
Speaker 3: campaign and showing him spinning versus on radio stations on that,

1259
01:02:59,160 --> 01:03:01,360
Speaker 3: and I'm like, yo, I work with Justin Bieber as

1260
01:03:01,440 --> 01:03:03,960
Speaker 3: long as it's authentic, let's rock. I don't care if

1261
01:03:04,000 --> 01:03:04,640
Speaker 3: it's Justin Bieber.

1262
01:03:04,680 --> 01:03:07,840
Speaker 1: I don't care if it's Mary Poppins. If it's authenticless rock.

1263
01:03:07,920 --> 01:03:10,320
Speaker 1: That's how important is that for you guys?

1264
01:03:11,320 --> 01:03:11,560
Speaker 3: I know?

1265
01:03:11,640 --> 01:03:14,920
Speaker 1: Problem with that with just I was like, yes, but

1266
01:03:15,240 --> 01:03:17,840
Speaker 1: just you wanted him to write and they didn't.

1267
01:03:17,640 --> 01:03:19,080
Speaker 3: Say that he wasn't gonna write, and they said what

1268
01:03:19,200 --> 01:03:22,400
Speaker 3: if he doesn't? And I'm like that he shows on

1269
01:03:22,480 --> 01:03:24,400
Speaker 3: the blog d premiere band.

1270
01:03:24,640 --> 01:03:26,800
Speaker 1: Justin Bieber's like, how can I band nobody?

1271
01:03:26,920 --> 01:03:28,840
Speaker 3: Because if it was my cipher, You're gonna see Cane

1272
01:03:28,960 --> 01:03:33,640
Speaker 3: theremel there, rock him there, d I T C doing

1273
01:03:33,680 --> 01:03:34,600
Speaker 3: the whole cypher.

1274
01:03:34,360 --> 01:03:37,720
Speaker 1: With a G and Diamond and and and the old

1275
01:03:37,800 --> 01:03:38,480
Speaker 1: Ce and all of them.

1276
01:03:38,520 --> 01:03:42,360
Speaker 3: It's gonna be people like that, you know, yeah, because

1277
01:03:42,960 --> 01:03:46,800
Speaker 3: you see when the Shady Cipher it was eminem You know,

1278
01:03:46,880 --> 01:03:52,320
Speaker 3: people with skills them Broyce, Joe Budden, uh Crooked Eye skills.

1279
01:03:52,640 --> 01:03:54,680
Speaker 1: Know how important is that for you?

1280
01:03:54,840 --> 01:03:57,200
Speaker 5: For you guys, You guys have to integral that you

1281
01:03:57,320 --> 01:03:59,680
Speaker 5: guys are on the top of the line of producers

1282
01:03:59,720 --> 01:04:03,840
Speaker 5: when when we're speaking real real world hip hop, you

1283
01:04:03,960 --> 01:04:06,800
Speaker 5: guys name has to be brought up now. Is is

1284
01:04:07,640 --> 01:04:11,000
Speaker 5: it ever a time where you sit back and say,

1285
01:04:11,400 --> 01:04:14,200
Speaker 5: you know, I'm gonna do it for the money this time,

1286
01:04:14,880 --> 01:04:17,880
Speaker 5: or you say I'm gonna always stay who I.

1287
01:04:17,920 --> 01:04:21,760
Speaker 1: Am always say and I've been tempted.

1288
01:04:24,280 --> 01:04:24,440
Speaker 3: Much.

1289
01:04:25,480 --> 01:04:28,440
Speaker 8: We are a good example of olymp Biscuit. But it's

1290
01:04:28,480 --> 01:04:30,600
Speaker 8: in our hearts to the asking it about love.

1291
01:04:30,960 --> 01:04:33,640
Speaker 2: We do that do it for the love. It's like,

1292
01:04:33,760 --> 01:04:35,320
Speaker 2: it's just that's who we are.

1293
01:04:38,040 --> 01:04:40,840
Speaker 3: Biscuit was a good example tell us because when my

1294
01:04:40,960 --> 01:04:44,080
Speaker 3: manager kept pressing me to do it Patrick Moxey at

1295
01:04:44,120 --> 01:04:46,640
Speaker 3: the time, I was like nah, because I said, fred

1296
01:04:46,720 --> 01:04:49,040
Speaker 3: durstkin't rapt it. And in my eyes on the level

1297
01:04:49,080 --> 01:04:51,640
Speaker 3: of what people, I don't want my fans going damn

1298
01:04:51,720 --> 01:04:54,320
Speaker 3: praying you've work with him and and I like Limp

1299
01:04:54,320 --> 01:04:56,880
Speaker 3: Biscuit for what they do, but if you're gonna get

1300
01:04:56,920 --> 01:04:58,480
Speaker 3: with me, it's not what you do.

1301
01:04:58,720 --> 01:05:01,360
Speaker 1: And that's a lot more ink, you know what I'm saying.

1302
01:05:02,320 --> 01:05:03,960
Speaker 1: And that's the bottom line.

1303
01:05:04,440 --> 01:05:07,000
Speaker 3: They go, well, method man is on the song. I said, oh,

1304
01:05:08,000 --> 01:05:10,080
Speaker 3: I said, then send me the rough and send me

1305
01:05:10,160 --> 01:05:12,760
Speaker 3: the rough and meth was on it. I was like, then, okay,

1306
01:05:12,840 --> 01:05:15,520
Speaker 3: then I'll do it. And it was a big check,

1307
01:05:15,680 --> 01:05:19,160
Speaker 3: a huge check, one of the biggest checks I've ever gotten.

1308
01:05:20,080 --> 01:05:23,280
Speaker 3: So the good thing I liked about Fred Durst was

1309
01:05:23,440 --> 01:05:25,560
Speaker 3: he called me and said, I need to talk to

1310
01:05:25,680 --> 01:05:28,640
Speaker 3: Kreme and he was just becoming one of the new

1311
01:05:28,680 --> 01:05:32,520
Speaker 3: executives at Interscope with Jimmy Ivean, and he said, yo, man.

1312
01:05:32,800 --> 01:05:35,920
Speaker 1: This is recently. We knew it all back when they

1313
01:05:36,520 --> 01:05:37,880
Speaker 1: popping and we were doing.

1314
01:05:37,960 --> 01:05:41,000
Speaker 3: But he had respect for what you and we had

1315
01:05:41,040 --> 01:05:44,000
Speaker 3: a dope conversation and it was to the point he said,

1316
01:05:44,040 --> 01:05:44,680
Speaker 3: the best.

1317
01:05:44,480 --> 01:05:46,160
Speaker 1: You can get out of me, I'll do it. He

1318
01:05:46,200 --> 01:05:49,160
Speaker 1: came to D and D and so he tried, he tried,

1319
01:05:50,560 --> 01:05:53,479
Speaker 1: he tried nobody, nobody, God know nothing.

1320
01:05:53,800 --> 01:05:55,560
Speaker 3: And they were big at the time. This is the

1321
01:05:55,680 --> 01:05:59,000
Speaker 3: second second album and he was like, Yo, get the

1322
01:05:59,040 --> 01:05:59,760
Speaker 3: best you can get.

1323
01:05:59,640 --> 01:05:59,880
Speaker 2: Out of me.

1324
01:06:00,040 --> 01:06:01,800
Speaker 1: Okay, if you don't like it, whatever, I'll do it.

1325
01:06:01,880 --> 01:06:03,760
Speaker 3: And he that was the best I could get when

1326
01:06:03,760 --> 01:06:06,160
Speaker 3: what's on the song. But the fact he put the

1327
01:06:06,200 --> 01:06:07,840
Speaker 3: effort in. I like the fact he put in the

1328
01:06:07,880 --> 01:06:09,960
Speaker 3: effort and he knocked it out. Next thing, you know,

1329
01:06:10,000 --> 01:06:11,160
Speaker 3: he said, Yo, we're doing a video.

1330
01:06:11,880 --> 01:06:14,440
Speaker 1: Flew us out. We had a big video shoot. We

1331
01:06:14,520 --> 01:06:16,560
Speaker 1: had a good time and it was just a just

1332
01:06:16,600 --> 01:06:18,840
Speaker 1: a really really fun session. And then me and Me

1333
01:06:18,880 --> 01:06:21,720
Speaker 1: and Fred were cool after that. Yo. Before the thing

1334
01:06:21,840 --> 01:06:24,800
Speaker 1: is that you guys mentioned Dwick and we didn't go

1335
01:06:24,960 --> 01:06:27,160
Speaker 1: back to do it. Let's go back to Troy is

1336
01:06:27,240 --> 01:06:28,280
Speaker 1: one of the biggest.

1337
01:06:28,000 --> 01:06:31,960
Speaker 3: Hip hop will ever be and it's one of the

1338
01:06:32,000 --> 01:06:33,080
Speaker 3: biggest hip hop records.

1339
01:06:34,360 --> 01:06:38,760
Speaker 1: We need to hear. We need to hear the story

1340
01:06:38,920 --> 01:06:39,480
Speaker 1: of Dwick.

1341
01:06:40,160 --> 01:06:42,880
Speaker 3: Dwich the only reason why Dwick happened, because that's all

1342
01:06:42,920 --> 01:06:43,920
Speaker 3: of our summer anthems.

1343
01:06:44,000 --> 01:06:46,760
Speaker 1: By the way, like we all the nicest move did

1344
01:06:46,840 --> 01:06:47,520
Speaker 1: a song.

1345
01:06:47,400 --> 01:06:50,320
Speaker 3: Called on the Ain't a Damning Change called down the Line.

1346
01:06:50,680 --> 01:06:52,480
Speaker 3: It was with a whole bunch of mcs based Blaster

1347
01:06:52,560 --> 01:06:54,200
Speaker 3: Big up to him, a whole bunch of other mc

1348
01:06:54,400 --> 01:06:58,040
Speaker 3: he said, based Blaster Yeah from Connecticut, including and shout

1349
01:06:58,120 --> 01:07:00,880
Speaker 3: to Ray Pouncy and Ray Paul See and uh and

1350
01:07:01,040 --> 01:07:03,680
Speaker 3: then Google's also on it. He said, I want to

1351
01:07:03,720 --> 01:07:06,400
Speaker 3: loop the Manifest beat and do my own version because

1352
01:07:06,400 --> 01:07:08,280
Speaker 3: a lot of people don't know most of the nicest

1353
01:07:08,320 --> 01:07:13,960
Speaker 3: who hits. Greg Knice does all the beats. Wow, I've

1354
01:07:14,000 --> 01:07:16,240
Speaker 3: seen him do it. He's for all that stuff. Hip

1355
01:07:16,280 --> 01:07:18,600
Speaker 3: hop junkies, every every.

1356
01:07:20,320 --> 01:07:32,960
Speaker 1: Oh my sorry yell all that kicking wicked rocks like

1357
01:07:33,000 --> 01:07:35,840
Speaker 1: a fortunate time had a dog and on his old

1358
01:07:35,920 --> 01:07:37,680
Speaker 1: yellow he did all that stuff.

1359
01:07:37,760 --> 01:07:41,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, Greg Knife, he did be for me to make

1360
01:07:41,920 --> 01:07:50,680
Speaker 3: him up hip hop right now, the punky bu all

1361
01:07:50,720 --> 01:07:53,040
Speaker 3: that stuff does less be plays a sack. I know

1362
01:07:53,120 --> 01:07:55,320
Speaker 3: he doesn't play a sack. I remember brand for myself.

1363
01:07:55,520 --> 01:07:56,800
Speaker 1: He gonna played the fu sack.

1364
01:07:58,240 --> 01:08:00,960
Speaker 3: It works me and myself alove to Max. He did

1365
01:08:01,040 --> 01:08:03,840
Speaker 3: all those beats. So Greg Nice is a dope beat maker.

1366
01:08:03,920 --> 01:08:10,160
Speaker 1: Wow. So he took the Manifest instrumental, made a beat

1367
01:08:10,680 --> 01:08:13,040
Speaker 1: and all we were doing was because we hang tough.

1368
01:08:13,120 --> 01:08:15,560
Speaker 1: It was the nicest smooth gang star riding.

1369
01:08:15,320 --> 01:08:16,080
Speaker 2: The d trained.

1370
01:08:16,560 --> 01:08:18,760
Speaker 3: We go to the castle which was grimy in the

1371
01:08:18,800 --> 01:08:21,280
Speaker 3: Bronx and this was the when they had to shoot out.

1372
01:08:21,280 --> 01:08:23,320
Speaker 3: Would say, Greg, all that stuff like we were around

1373
01:08:23,600 --> 01:08:28,600
Speaker 3: all that stuff. Boom, next thing you know, we said, well,

1374
01:08:28,680 --> 01:08:30,400
Speaker 3: let's return the favor and do a record for us.

1375
01:08:30,560 --> 01:08:32,600
Speaker 1: So that's all. It was just y'all doing for us.

1376
01:08:32,640 --> 01:08:35,320
Speaker 1: We're gonna do one feel doing on there.

1377
01:08:35,400 --> 01:08:37,479
Speaker 3: That's why it was the B side and it wasn't

1378
01:08:37,479 --> 01:08:39,320
Speaker 3: on the album. I remember people are like, oh yeah,

1379
01:08:39,400 --> 01:08:41,160
Speaker 3: y'all left you off the album. It's like, nah, the

1380
01:08:41,280 --> 01:08:43,200
Speaker 3: album was already done. We're just doing it for fun.

1381
01:08:44,000 --> 01:08:48,720
Speaker 1: We was doing it and that became a huge right now.

1382
01:08:48,760 --> 01:08:50,479
Speaker 1: We didn't know it's gonna be a huge We're just

1383
01:08:50,560 --> 01:08:56,960
Speaker 1: doing it. No, it was just fun. I remember, I know.

1384
01:08:57,320 --> 01:09:00,679
Speaker 1: Shout out to duve C. He was There't you related

1385
01:09:00,720 --> 01:09:02,800
Speaker 1: to to somebody on the West like that? No, we

1386
01:09:03,000 --> 01:09:04,800
Speaker 1: just good friends. We're just good friend. But you did

1387
01:09:04,840 --> 01:09:07,000
Speaker 1: the album m C A recently. Yeah, that's coming out

1388
01:09:07,040 --> 01:09:12,240
Speaker 1: of that. Let's go back to was most wanted.

1389
01:09:12,800 --> 01:09:15,439
Speaker 3: He did two of the uh theme records for Boys

1390
01:09:15,479 --> 01:09:17,479
Speaker 3: in the Hood, he did Grow m C and he

1391
01:09:17,560 --> 01:09:19,920
Speaker 3: did She's on Everybody Side.

1392
01:09:20,720 --> 01:09:23,080
Speaker 1: So yeah, we have an we have an out hit.

1393
01:09:23,280 --> 01:09:25,920
Speaker 1: We have a one hit one. We have which way

1394
01:09:26,040 --> 01:09:33,679
Speaker 1: is West's coming? So and and also you haven't, idiot

1395
01:09:35,640 --> 01:09:38,160
Speaker 1: know of the connoisseurs and we you know people know.

1396
01:09:38,640 --> 01:09:41,880
Speaker 3: Uh and then uh uh shout to Tory Wolf and

1397
01:09:42,080 --> 01:09:43,479
Speaker 3: also shot to Miguel.

1398
01:09:43,680 --> 01:09:46,559
Speaker 1: We have a single out right now called to Loving You. Now.

1399
01:09:47,520 --> 01:09:50,320
Speaker 1: What happened was where where we where? We dwick so

1400
01:09:50,640 --> 01:09:55,080
Speaker 1: dub she was there. Wow, that's Don Barron from the Masters.

1401
01:09:54,680 --> 01:09:59,280
Speaker 3: And sure yeah, because he was good friends with Greg Knight.

1402
01:10:00,360 --> 01:10:03,360
Speaker 2: How did the horny version happen to I was just

1403
01:10:03,439 --> 01:10:03,880
Speaker 2: doing that, just.

1404
01:10:03,920 --> 01:10:10,639
Speaker 1: Bugging out, and the morning version, the horn the horny

1405
01:10:10,800 --> 01:10:13,759
Speaker 1: version as a vocal version had a glitch.

1406
01:10:13,880 --> 01:10:18,160
Speaker 3: You remember you when you go to dad Tod. Yeah,

1407
01:10:20,840 --> 01:10:23,120
Speaker 3: So when we bounced into we stay quiet, let them

1408
01:10:23,200 --> 01:10:25,200
Speaker 3: tell that and had.

1409
01:10:25,120 --> 01:10:29,920
Speaker 1: To remember that she's the glitches We couldn't. I was like,

1410
01:10:29,960 --> 01:10:32,320
Speaker 1: we can't put it out, like that's why I just

1411
01:10:32,360 --> 01:10:35,160
Speaker 1: put the instrumental on the on the B side of

1412
01:10:35,240 --> 01:10:45,240
Speaker 1: the twelve. Wow.

1413
01:10:47,840 --> 01:10:50,920
Speaker 3: When did y'all know you had something with Dwick? Like,

1414
01:10:51,000 --> 01:10:53,560
Speaker 3: I mean immediately when that ship came out when we

1415
01:10:53,680 --> 01:10:56,040
Speaker 3: finished it. It was crazy because, like I said, duve

1416
01:10:56,200 --> 01:10:59,840
Speaker 3: C is from the West Coast, wearing scullies.

1417
01:10:59,280 --> 01:11:02,880
Speaker 9: All the heat of it West Cyde Connection and House

1418
01:11:03,320 --> 01:11:07,960
Speaker 9: and west Side, the Crypto, Crypto and Khakis and and

1419
01:11:08,160 --> 01:11:10,519
Speaker 9: Pendleton's all hot and I'm just like, yo, you ain't

1420
01:11:10,560 --> 01:11:12,680
Speaker 9: hot and all that stuff, because that's how it is

1421
01:11:12,760 --> 01:11:13,439
Speaker 9: in the West Coast.

1422
01:11:13,680 --> 01:11:15,320
Speaker 1: And that's how I learned about the West Coast. This

1423
01:11:15,360 --> 01:11:18,599
Speaker 1: is nineteen eighty nine. Master Ace had just joined our

1424
01:11:19,439 --> 01:11:22,000
Speaker 1: Mass States was heaving doing the car show stuff on

1425
01:11:22,040 --> 01:11:24,120
Speaker 1: the West. I knew sul Night already back then it's

1426
01:11:24,160 --> 01:11:28,080
Speaker 1: eighty nine. I shouldn't Bobby he was, and he was.

1427
01:11:28,200 --> 01:11:29,640
Speaker 1: He was hanging over the.

1428
01:11:32,240 --> 01:11:32,360
Speaker 2: Man.

1429
01:11:32,560 --> 01:11:35,080
Speaker 3: So I was there with JJ FAD, the n w A,

1430
01:11:35,200 --> 01:11:37,479
Speaker 3: all that stuff, Me and Heasy. He came to the

1431
01:11:37,520 --> 01:11:41,080
Speaker 3: first Game Star release party in nineteen eighty nine. Did

1432
01:11:41,120 --> 01:11:47,080
Speaker 3: you want the pictures now? Yeah, the recipes to so

1433
01:11:47,600 --> 01:11:50,040
Speaker 3: we met them back in eighty nine, so killed you

1434
01:11:50,120 --> 01:11:53,080
Speaker 3: know what for dove c to be there back then?

1435
01:11:53,240 --> 01:11:55,040
Speaker 3: That shows you we go to and recipes of his

1436
01:11:55,160 --> 01:11:56,320
Speaker 3: brother who passed on.

1437
01:11:56,400 --> 01:11:59,840
Speaker 1: January, Ice Cubes, DJ Crazy Tones, that stuff.

1438
01:12:00,200 --> 01:12:03,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, when we set them off right, and we had

1439
01:12:03,479 --> 01:12:05,559
Speaker 3: an incredible homegoing service and.

1440
01:12:06,760 --> 01:12:08,080
Speaker 1: Your family reunion.

1441
01:12:08,280 --> 01:12:10,240
Speaker 3: Man, seeing all these West Coast on from King t

1442
01:12:10,880 --> 01:12:13,320
Speaker 3: and then seeing you know, Chuck d n l L

1443
01:12:13,520 --> 01:12:15,479
Speaker 3: there and everybody and and you know.

1444
01:12:15,960 --> 01:12:18,320
Speaker 1: Just every artist and hip hop family.

1445
01:12:19,400 --> 01:12:22,000
Speaker 3: It was so packed and and they just did it right,

1446
01:12:22,080 --> 01:12:24,160
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, playing dope music in the church,

1447
01:12:24,520 --> 01:12:27,080
Speaker 3: playing flashlight and doing a whole collage of all the

1448
01:12:27,120 --> 01:12:29,400
Speaker 3: people he's been around on a video screen.

1449
01:12:29,960 --> 01:12:31,519
Speaker 1: And and and then even when it did.

1450
01:12:31,439 --> 01:12:35,960
Speaker 3: To everybody's on site, the shows tunes throwing up the

1451
01:12:36,160 --> 01:12:39,320
Speaker 3: w looking up to the st with with clouds.

1452
01:12:38,880 --> 01:12:41,479
Speaker 1: And wings and all that stuff, and I was like, yo, man,

1453
01:12:42,200 --> 01:12:43,400
Speaker 1: you see he's trying to get.

1454
01:12:48,760 --> 01:12:49,120
Speaker 3: That was it?

1455
01:12:51,439 --> 01:12:54,640
Speaker 1: June. You're fifty. You're very smart about how you do

1456
01:12:54,800 --> 01:12:56,040
Speaker 1: things on TV.

1457
01:13:03,320 --> 01:13:05,760
Speaker 5: We we are with two of the best producers of

1458
01:13:05,920 --> 01:13:10,000
Speaker 5: all the best in my best and I'm going to

1459
01:13:10,040 --> 01:13:11,200
Speaker 5: celebrate you guys life.

1460
01:13:11,560 --> 01:13:13,320
Speaker 1: Hey man, I'm going to get team.

1461
01:13:13,800 --> 01:13:17,040
Speaker 5: I can't believe, like I continue, I got to come

1462
01:13:17,120 --> 01:13:19,519
Speaker 5: back and look a little black absolutely because it's twenty

1463
01:13:19,600 --> 01:13:21,680
Speaker 5: five million. But you know what the crazy shi it

1464
01:13:21,840 --> 01:13:26,600
Speaker 5: is is this guy is a vinyl guy. He's a

1465
01:13:26,960 --> 01:13:32,519
Speaker 5: real hip hot person. I am a hip hop person.

1466
01:13:32,840 --> 01:13:37,200
Speaker 5: For us to come together and want to commemorate hip hop,

1467
01:13:37,439 --> 01:13:39,120
Speaker 5: thissolute hip hop and for.

1468
01:13:39,240 --> 01:13:42,400
Speaker 1: It to get twenty five million, man for picking it

1469
01:13:42,479 --> 01:13:52,800
Speaker 1: out CBS, CBS first, BBS first, and then Coming home

1470
01:13:54,720 --> 01:13:59,760
Speaker 1: Man coming here May. I thought, when you go you

1471
01:13:59,840 --> 01:14:01,840
Speaker 1: go to LA, you gotta le's beak of your premier.

1472
01:14:02,120 --> 01:14:05,599
Speaker 3: No, I'm doing screening screening at the LA Film School

1473
01:14:06,600 --> 01:14:10,160
Speaker 3: March ninth, but March twenty third on Revolt Airs is

1474
01:14:10,240 --> 01:14:13,439
Speaker 3: the premier Coming Home Vietnam. I'm going to different countries

1475
01:14:13,479 --> 01:14:14,360
Speaker 3: and exploring hip hop.

1476
01:14:16,560 --> 01:14:19,240
Speaker 1: The dope thing is, I've been watching Drink Drink Chances

1477
01:14:19,240 --> 01:14:23,280
Speaker 1: for a minute. You don't feel like you're lighting it up.

1478
01:14:24,040 --> 01:14:28,720
Speaker 3: I've been checking a minute, and Uh, it's just ill.

1479
01:14:28,920 --> 01:14:33,320
Speaker 3: How how the two of y'all are from really different,

1480
01:14:33,600 --> 01:14:37,040
Speaker 3: totally different directions. I've known Nord from the streets, like

1481
01:14:37,200 --> 01:14:41,920
Speaker 3: we've been streeting for so long, right, I've seen him

1482
01:14:41,920 --> 01:14:48,200
Speaker 3: elevate from the street level of rhymen to the sharper.

1483
01:14:48,120 --> 01:14:49,360
Speaker 1: Version of writing rhymes.

1484
01:14:50,000 --> 01:14:52,160
Speaker 3: Even when you and Bubby had joke rama and then

1485
01:14:52,200 --> 01:14:54,439
Speaker 3: we end up doing a record together and.

1486
01:14:54,760 --> 01:14:57,840
Speaker 1: Me and together, and even when that happened, it wasn't

1487
01:14:57,840 --> 01:14:59,439
Speaker 1: even a dish. He was just like, yo, I'm a

1488
01:14:59,600 --> 01:15:00,400
Speaker 1: band of GNY.

1489
01:15:00,880 --> 01:15:05,120
Speaker 3: He didn't want him to elevate and fan and where

1490
01:15:05,240 --> 01:15:09,600
Speaker 3: everybody knows bumping Freddie Fox and being where he is

1491
01:15:09,800 --> 01:15:13,720
Speaker 3: more into. There's certain people he's attracted to for what

1492
01:15:13,840 --> 01:15:17,240
Speaker 3: they represented, and he loves no more than the same.

1493
01:15:17,360 --> 01:15:21,240
Speaker 1: See as a person, A big, big fan of Big

1494
01:15:22,240 --> 01:15:23,560
Speaker 1: Big because he pushed me.

1495
01:15:23,640 --> 01:15:26,360
Speaker 5: He told me from the beginning, like if he had

1496
01:15:26,840 --> 01:15:28,479
Speaker 5: mentioned my name on the record, they told me like

1497
01:15:29,360 --> 01:15:31,200
Speaker 5: I just I don't want you to say what but

1498
01:15:31,800 --> 01:15:34,639
Speaker 5: I'm gonna be honest, I keep it one.

1499
01:15:36,400 --> 01:15:41,320
Speaker 1: When I recorded to with the right, that's how I

1500
01:15:41,439 --> 01:15:44,360
Speaker 1: used to count bars. I used to say, what what

1501
01:15:44,600 --> 01:15:44,920
Speaker 1: what what?

1502
01:15:45,160 --> 01:15:49,680
Speaker 3: What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What?

1503
01:15:49,920 --> 01:15:50,160
Speaker 2: What what?

1504
01:15:51,560 --> 01:15:57,559
Speaker 1: I'm from the resource from education child.

1505
01:16:00,680 --> 01:16:01,639
Speaker 5: I told for real.

1506
01:16:01,760 --> 01:16:05,479
Speaker 15: I said, they're gonna lave it. He said, that's the hook.

1507
01:16:06,120 --> 01:16:10,120
Speaker 15: But he was a h He was because the game

1508
01:16:10,240 --> 01:16:12,519
Speaker 15: was taking up the ones like when I said what

1509
01:16:12,680 --> 01:16:12,960
Speaker 15: what what?

1510
01:16:13,160 --> 01:16:13,200
Speaker 9: What?

1511
01:16:13,320 --> 01:16:13,360
Speaker 3: What?

1512
01:16:13,720 --> 01:16:16,160
Speaker 1: So what I wanted it? All he did was muted.

1513
01:16:16,920 --> 01:16:19,120
Speaker 1: And then so I gotta give it to morell.

1514
01:16:21,560 --> 01:16:22,000
Speaker 8: You did that.

1515
01:16:22,439 --> 01:16:25,040
Speaker 1: So now when you listen to it, you hear and

1516
01:16:25,160 --> 01:16:26,360
Speaker 1: you say what what what?

1517
01:16:26,600 --> 01:16:28,040
Speaker 3: What? What? What? What? What?

1518
01:16:29,760 --> 01:16:31,760
Speaker 1: But yeah, this day you don't even got to go

1519
01:16:31,800 --> 01:16:34,080
Speaker 1: to the verse. That is the club.

1520
01:16:34,800 --> 01:16:35,000
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1521
01:16:37,360 --> 01:16:40,240
Speaker 1: And what I was trying to say was when I

1522
01:16:40,439 --> 01:16:42,960
Speaker 1: did it, I felt what Bumpy felt.

1523
01:16:43,680 --> 01:16:46,639
Speaker 5: That's why I never took it personal, because I felt

1524
01:16:47,120 --> 01:16:48,800
Speaker 5: I told for I said it for real.

1525
01:16:50,000 --> 01:16:50,479
Speaker 2: We need is.

1526
01:16:51,560 --> 01:16:53,519
Speaker 5: I said, oh, we need is because you know from

1527
01:16:53,520 --> 01:16:58,000
Speaker 5: the research room. So you know, I'm sorry, said and

1528
01:16:58,120 --> 01:17:01,760
Speaker 5: he said relax. We didn't say relax, but in my mind,

1529
01:17:02,040 --> 01:17:08,840
Speaker 5: he said, I will never forget it. We were in

1530
01:17:08,880 --> 01:17:12,200
Speaker 5: the Right Track Recording Studios. His chain was choking him.

1531
01:17:16,000 --> 01:17:21,240
Speaker 1: I told Choker, like, you gotta release because it was

1532
01:17:21,320 --> 01:17:24,400
Speaker 1: just so tight on this licking. I love him, he

1533
01:17:24,520 --> 01:17:25,800
Speaker 1: love he knows I love for.

1534
01:17:29,000 --> 01:17:29,160
Speaker 2: Real.

1535
01:17:31,040 --> 01:17:34,720
Speaker 5: I'm very upset, but I love you for me and

1536
01:17:34,800 --> 01:17:40,400
Speaker 5: mister Lee kicks. So I remember, I'm going upstairs, I

1537
01:17:40,479 --> 01:17:43,960
Speaker 5: would saying, you remember right track, youmember. So I went

1538
01:17:44,080 --> 01:17:46,240
Speaker 5: upstairs and I said, all we need is a hook

1539
01:17:46,280 --> 01:17:49,000
Speaker 5: and we good, And he said we got the hook already,

1540
01:17:50,000 --> 01:17:52,080
Speaker 5: and I looked at him. I was like, because I

1541
01:17:52,200 --> 01:17:58,200
Speaker 5: had previously did that on every other record before, Joe.

1542
01:17:58,360 --> 01:18:01,080
Speaker 1: The first time I heard you were t O, N

1543
01:18:01,320 --> 01:18:05,400
Speaker 1: Y and and just the whole bo It's like, that's

1544
01:18:05,439 --> 01:18:08,120
Speaker 1: your stamp, that no one of those owners that you

1545
01:18:08,200 --> 01:18:11,120
Speaker 1: are owner. But that's the reason why I got it.

1546
01:18:11,560 --> 01:18:14,760
Speaker 1: I gotta give it because he was the nigga like

1547
01:18:14,840 --> 01:18:15,639
Speaker 1: I did that ass.

1548
01:18:15,560 --> 01:18:19,479
Speaker 5: Ball because you remember back then. You gotta remember back then.

1549
01:18:20,120 --> 01:18:27,880
Speaker 5: We couldn't punch in recorded the roll record in one day, No,

1550
01:18:28,400 --> 01:18:30,080
Speaker 5: and it want to punch in even.

1551
01:18:32,160 --> 01:18:39,240
Speaker 3: No punching it, you know, proud, but listen, I'll be

1552
01:18:39,320 --> 01:18:41,160
Speaker 3: fifty one March twenty first.

1553
01:18:46,080 --> 01:18:48,200
Speaker 1: So pree, So I did this ship.

1554
01:18:49,040 --> 01:18:51,360
Speaker 5: That's how I always recorded my records.

1555
01:18:51,520 --> 01:18:53,360
Speaker 1: Was all the way too, because remember we had the

1556
01:18:53,400 --> 01:18:57,439
Speaker 1: eight year Hrails back then two inch get two inchel

1557
01:19:02,600 --> 01:19:03,600
Speaker 1: whatever you think it was.

1558
01:19:03,640 --> 01:19:09,479
Speaker 5: It was, so I was trained to just lay everything

1559
01:19:09,600 --> 01:19:12,439
Speaker 5: all together. So I came out and then he had

1560
01:19:12,479 --> 01:19:13,200
Speaker 5: the girl come in.

1561
01:19:13,439 --> 01:19:16,080
Speaker 1: And then the girl was saying, which is not callous

1562
01:19:16,120 --> 01:19:21,000
Speaker 1: because everybody everybody thinks it's not. Everybody thought it was

1563
01:19:21,880 --> 01:19:26,160
Speaker 1: its getting what she was around during that time. Yeah,

1564
01:19:26,200 --> 01:19:27,240
Speaker 1: but everybody thought was it.

1565
01:19:28,520 --> 01:19:32,960
Speaker 5: I'm so sorry I forgot Remember tammy is definitely a tammy.

1566
01:19:33,000 --> 01:19:38,600
Speaker 1: Sounds like that was something like that, right, That was

1567
01:19:38,640 --> 01:19:42,759
Speaker 1: an that time that that we were all cool, khalise,

1568
01:19:43,040 --> 01:19:44,320
Speaker 1: but look so crazy.

1569
01:19:44,479 --> 01:19:47,320
Speaker 5: I come back out and I'll say, yo, praps, all

1570
01:19:47,360 --> 01:19:49,600
Speaker 5: we need is to hook and we've done and he

1571
01:19:49,720 --> 01:19:53,160
Speaker 5: said he god don And I said, where.

1572
01:19:53,080 --> 01:19:53,360
Speaker 9: Is it a?

1573
01:19:54,439 --> 01:19:58,960
Speaker 1: And then he played what they're gonna laugh at me?

1574
01:19:59,800 --> 01:20:02,519
Speaker 1: When Reddy Fox name at me? He's like, I don't

1575
01:20:02,560 --> 01:20:03,320
Speaker 1: want to hit it?

1576
01:20:03,400 --> 01:20:03,960
Speaker 3: What what? What?

1577
01:20:04,640 --> 01:20:08,920
Speaker 1: But he didn't know that was it literally wasn't me.

1578
01:20:09,080 --> 01:20:11,560
Speaker 1: So I was literally mad, mona, what's going on?

1579
01:20:11,880 --> 01:20:17,080
Speaker 5: Because the monad the drink chance God damn it on

1580
01:20:17,280 --> 01:20:19,559
Speaker 5: him in my mind.

1581
01:20:21,160 --> 01:20:21,400
Speaker 1: Shout.

1582
01:20:24,080 --> 01:20:29,400
Speaker 5: So now listen, you guys see hip hop. You worked

1583
01:20:29,479 --> 01:20:34,800
Speaker 5: with Cool Rest in Peace, you worked with C. L.

1584
01:20:34,920 --> 01:20:39,120
Speaker 5: Simon Heavy, Now Heavens.

1585
01:20:39,439 --> 01:20:45,320
Speaker 1: I'm going there. So now what makes y'all say I'm

1586
01:20:45,400 --> 01:20:47,360
Speaker 1: going to work with people outside?

1587
01:20:48,680 --> 01:20:48,840
Speaker 3: Oh?

1588
01:20:49,400 --> 01:20:53,840
Speaker 1: Because the thing about hip hop back then was one

1589
01:20:53,960 --> 01:20:57,560
Speaker 1: producer did the whole album. I'm wonder I'm working on

1590
01:20:57,680 --> 01:20:59,960
Speaker 1: going back to that one producer did the whole.

1591
01:21:00,360 --> 01:21:06,960
Speaker 5: Now you've got you, you got Illmatic where it's Pete Rock, Premier,

1592
01:21:07,800 --> 01:21:12,559
Speaker 5: Tip Large, Professor l E. S. Then you go into

1593
01:21:12,800 --> 01:21:17,040
Speaker 5: at the big big.

1594
01:21:21,240 --> 01:21:24,720
Speaker 1: LP. Yeah, Lord for neess Uh.

1595
01:21:25,800 --> 01:21:29,120
Speaker 5: So what makes y'all what makes y'all say I'm gonna

1596
01:21:29,120 --> 01:21:31,439
Speaker 5: work with people outside of my group?

1597
01:21:32,120 --> 01:21:35,320
Speaker 1: Because we're not just We're just not in a hip

1598
01:21:35,360 --> 01:21:38,599
Speaker 1: hop box. We're in a music box, and the music.

1599
01:21:38,479 --> 01:21:43,160
Speaker 3: Box has all styles that we appreciate based.

1600
01:21:42,880 --> 01:21:44,000
Speaker 1: On the cloth.

1601
01:21:44,120 --> 01:21:47,200
Speaker 3: We're cut from a pioneers that opened the door and

1602
01:21:47,360 --> 01:21:54,160
Speaker 3: we're goinning fire. James Brown BOUTSI the whole Parliament from Adomph. Yeah,

1603
01:21:54,280 --> 01:21:57,840
Speaker 3: just on any of that from parlet brids and anything

1604
01:21:57,880 --> 01:22:00,880
Speaker 3: Boots anything, Parliament, anything, George anything.

1605
01:22:00,760 --> 01:22:02,880
Speaker 1: That's an era after James Brown.

1606
01:22:03,000 --> 01:22:06,720
Speaker 3: That's so funky, you know, like like that, that's a

1607
01:22:06,920 --> 01:22:09,639
Speaker 3: funk that they ain't never funk. Like he said, funk

1608
01:22:09,760 --> 01:22:11,800
Speaker 3: not only moves they can remove.

1609
01:22:12,520 --> 01:22:14,000
Speaker 1: We come from that, you know.

1610
01:22:14,160 --> 01:22:17,320
Speaker 3: So Aretha Franklin, Natalie Cold, Gladys Knight and the Pips,

1611
01:22:18,160 --> 01:22:20,880
Speaker 3: Curtis Mayfield, all that stuff, and Mac and all that stuff.

1612
01:22:21,520 --> 01:22:22,680
Speaker 1: That's my childhood.

1613
01:22:23,080 --> 01:22:25,040
Speaker 3: I don't know about no hip hop to hippie and

1614
01:22:25,080 --> 01:22:28,000
Speaker 3: hippie I'm on that. I'm seeing my mom playing back

1615
01:22:28,080 --> 01:22:34,240
Speaker 3: to Yeah, Donad Rose anything, Amotown, Tamla, Gordy Soul Records,

1616
01:22:34,520 --> 01:22:35,200
Speaker 3: any of that stuff.

1617
01:22:35,640 --> 01:22:37,519
Speaker 1: My mama tried to get you hit one more time,

1618
01:22:38,200 --> 01:22:42,880
Speaker 1: drink Champs, God damn you want to make it smoke.

1619
01:22:43,880 --> 01:22:50,400
Speaker 5: He ross the roster, roster, saying, why why.

1620
01:22:50,840 --> 01:22:57,640
Speaker 3: My child his platform shoes, Afros this big afrosine commercials.

1621
01:22:57,680 --> 01:22:58,360
Speaker 1: But Johnson and.

1622
01:23:01,640 --> 01:23:05,960
Speaker 3: Good Times, the Jeffersons, all in the family. You know,

1623
01:23:06,200 --> 01:23:12,280
Speaker 3: the monsters. That's my monsters. That yeah, remember that's my Yeah,

1624
01:23:12,920 --> 01:23:15,040
Speaker 3: I'm gonna throw something in there. What's happening?

1625
01:23:15,160 --> 01:23:16,720
Speaker 1: That's my my era, A.

1626
01:23:18,680 --> 01:23:22,080
Speaker 3: Rock and stuff, all that, you know, all that. Yeah,

1627
01:23:22,479 --> 01:23:26,680
Speaker 3: roller skating, we run, we run, That's what I know.

1628
01:23:27,680 --> 01:23:29,080
Speaker 1: This is no rapping and scratching.

1629
01:23:29,160 --> 01:23:34,479
Speaker 5: Yet, what is Peak Rock's favorite studio session all these years?

1630
01:23:34,880 --> 01:23:38,759
Speaker 8: My favorite studio session that I've ever had was probably

1631
01:23:38,840 --> 01:23:42,200
Speaker 8: had been with Run DMC, down with the.

1632
01:23:43,880 --> 01:23:50,759
Speaker 1: Ship with the King, down with the light. That's problem

1633
01:23:51,439 --> 01:23:59,840
Speaker 1: was you know the Brasy that's the owner of this club,

1634
01:24:00,520 --> 01:24:02,240
Speaker 1: and he's not gonna like and we got to like.

1635
01:24:05,600 --> 01:24:05,720
Speaker 2: Yo.

1636
01:24:06,360 --> 01:24:09,720
Speaker 3: We were on a gang start tour last day and

1637
01:24:10,320 --> 01:24:13,280
Speaker 3: Writ and Run called us and said, hurry.

1638
01:24:13,120 --> 01:24:15,400
Speaker 1: Up and get hit on the twenty five million streets.

1639
01:24:15,400 --> 01:24:17,519
Speaker 1: Why was I like one that we did not and

1640
01:24:17,600 --> 01:24:28,560
Speaker 1: we did not make it? It been perfect and we

1641
01:24:28,680 --> 01:24:30,559
Speaker 1: came over the wall was and everybody was.

1642
01:24:30,600 --> 01:24:31,680
Speaker 2: Gone, damn. You know.

1643
01:24:31,720 --> 01:24:35,200
Speaker 5: I gave CBS this idea though, come on, bro, I

1644
01:24:35,280 --> 01:24:40,080
Speaker 5: give him that idea. You gotta relax. Gave him I said,

1645
01:24:40,080 --> 01:24:41,479
Speaker 5: we need a streamer in the plaque.

1646
01:24:42,760 --> 01:24:45,559
Speaker 3: We sat on the podcast buddy, We just said podcast,

1647
01:24:46,280 --> 01:24:47,320
Speaker 3: I gotta go with you events.

1648
01:24:49,320 --> 01:24:54,640
Speaker 1: He feels more sober than me. Yeah, I don't know

1649
01:24:54,680 --> 01:24:55,080
Speaker 1: if it's.

1650
01:24:55,000 --> 01:24:55,720
Speaker 2: A d J thing.

1651
01:24:55,960 --> 01:24:59,240
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, you can do about We have a memory.

1652
01:25:01,200 --> 01:25:03,400
Speaker 1: Jay Z saw me one day. Jay Z said you,

1653
01:25:03,439 --> 01:25:04,840
Speaker 1: I'm gonna call you memory man.

1654
01:25:05,640 --> 01:25:09,040
Speaker 3: You remember every show you're seeing jay Z and he'll go,

1655
01:25:09,920 --> 01:25:12,040
Speaker 3: but you remember this time, I'll say, I remember we

1656
01:25:12,120 --> 01:25:16,040
Speaker 3: were and we were in Paris. Were at a show

1657
01:25:16,160 --> 01:25:18,080
Speaker 3: like two in the morning, and he was doing the

1658
01:25:18,200 --> 01:25:21,080
Speaker 3: uh this after the justin tim latour and watch the throwne.

1659
01:25:21,360 --> 01:25:23,800
Speaker 3: He was doing a Holy Grail tour. We found out

1660
01:25:23,840 --> 01:25:26,639
Speaker 3: he was in town me and Keebler or wherever Keybler

1661
01:25:26,720 --> 01:25:28,519
Speaker 3: is at. I said, y'all want to go see jay

1662
01:25:28,560 --> 01:25:30,720
Speaker 3: Z before him reach out. That's when he was still

1663
01:25:30,840 --> 01:25:32,559
Speaker 3: talking you no, no, in Paris.

1664
01:25:33,479 --> 01:25:36,280
Speaker 1: In Paris, and we got a little a couple of

1665
01:25:36,320 --> 01:25:38,479
Speaker 1: little timas. I want to go to the show. I

1666
01:25:38,600 --> 01:25:40,600
Speaker 1: reached out to the proper people and they was like, yo,

1667
01:25:40,680 --> 01:25:42,280
Speaker 1: Jam and Dad when he was a John and Neely.

1668
01:25:44,000 --> 01:25:46,160
Speaker 3: Reached out to John and Neely he's handling everything. I

1669
01:25:46,240 --> 01:25:48,280
Speaker 3: reached out to John, send him an email, and I'm like,

1670
01:25:48,280 --> 01:25:48,840
Speaker 3: I'm out of here.

1671
01:25:49,080 --> 01:25:50,080
Speaker 1: Anyway we can go to the show.

1672
01:25:50,080 --> 01:25:52,280
Speaker 3: I'm thinking I ain't gonna respond, and thing blipped in

1673
01:25:52,360 --> 01:25:54,679
Speaker 3: like two men's He said, Yo, there's gonna be passes

1674
01:25:54,720 --> 01:25:57,080
Speaker 3: waiting for you all access come backstage and I'm gonna

1675
01:25:57,080 --> 01:25:57,680
Speaker 3: have a spot for you.

1676
01:26:01,560 --> 01:26:01,960
Speaker 1: I'm sorry.

1677
01:26:02,479 --> 01:26:05,760
Speaker 3: As soon as we go backstage after the show, because

1678
01:26:05,800 --> 01:26:07,080
Speaker 3: Timblin was d dan Form.

1679
01:26:07,479 --> 01:26:10,360
Speaker 1: We go back stage after the show. Jay Z goes,

1680
01:26:11,280 --> 01:26:14,479
Speaker 1: all right, well remember you got this time? Hey, could

1681
01:26:14,479 --> 01:26:18,479
Speaker 1: I'm introduce him to the Keepler, my tour man. He goes, yeah,

1682
01:26:18,560 --> 01:26:22,760
Speaker 1: he said, He's like, how you doing, He's like, how

1683
01:26:22,760 --> 01:26:24,400
Speaker 1: you doing? Keep it nice to meet you. He'll know

1684
01:26:24,479 --> 01:26:25,599
Speaker 1: what you got memory this time?

1685
01:26:25,720 --> 01:26:28,720
Speaker 3: I said, you met Keebler Before he goes, oh no,

1686
01:26:30,240 --> 01:26:36,280
Speaker 3: I said, we were at Battery Baseline Studios and Loupe

1687
01:26:36,439 --> 01:26:40,360
Speaker 3: Fiasco was auditioning for you and he had on a

1688
01:26:40,560 --> 01:26:41,160
Speaker 3: big chain.

1689
01:26:41,240 --> 01:26:43,479
Speaker 1: This is on Lupe Avasco had a big chain home

1690
01:26:43,520 --> 01:26:45,400
Speaker 1: with a big medalla, which he would never do. Right now.

1691
01:26:45,479 --> 01:26:47,599
Speaker 1: He was rapping for you know none that he needs

1692
01:26:47,680 --> 01:26:51,040
Speaker 1: much more focus on another level. But Loop fans come on,

1693
01:26:51,120 --> 01:26:55,160
Speaker 1: Drink Champs going up. Man Homie shot shot the first

1694
01:26:55,200 --> 01:26:55,719
Speaker 1: and fifteen.

1695
01:26:56,400 --> 01:27:00,160
Speaker 3: So he goes, he's the auditioning for Jay Jasons all

1696
01:27:00,200 --> 01:27:03,559
Speaker 3: these rhymes. Louey puts on a beat in the CD player.

1697
01:27:03,960 --> 01:27:08,639
Speaker 3: The CD starts to go, you know when they loop

1698
01:27:08,840 --> 01:27:15,200
Speaker 3: goes and and then it finally stops skipping, goes back

1699
01:27:15,240 --> 01:27:21,280
Speaker 3: into the rhymes. Right there, Jay goos, I totally.

1700
01:27:21,040 --> 01:27:25,519
Speaker 1: Remember that day. Next you know him and keep off

1701
01:27:25,560 --> 01:27:28,559
Speaker 1: in the corner talking about sports, you know, make some noise.

1702
01:27:31,240 --> 01:27:36,240
Speaker 5: Now here's the deal. Like when I interview people, I

1703
01:27:36,439 --> 01:27:39,320
Speaker 5: like to, you know, dig into their life. When I

1704
01:27:39,479 --> 01:27:42,800
Speaker 5: know the people, the people, I don't dig into their

1705
01:27:42,880 --> 01:27:44,000
Speaker 5: like because I know them are rent.

1706
01:27:44,200 --> 01:27:47,879
Speaker 1: Both of you guys, I know already. I know exactly

1707
01:27:47,920 --> 01:27:48,600
Speaker 1: what to ask you.

1708
01:27:48,720 --> 01:27:53,360
Speaker 5: But the thing about y'all which surprised me is y'all

1709
01:27:53,479 --> 01:27:56,920
Speaker 5: both come and y'all both do your own sound check.

1710
01:27:58,840 --> 01:28:06,240
Speaker 1: Mandatory and so man as always would. I always think like,

1711
01:28:06,520 --> 01:28:08,720
Speaker 1: you guys have a DJ, but he'll do.

1712
01:28:09,280 --> 01:28:12,920
Speaker 3: We were talking about this me and Yeah, was so like,

1713
01:28:13,360 --> 01:28:20,240
Speaker 3: he's like DJ, that sounds that we've done, Joe, And

1714
01:28:20,320 --> 01:28:22,479
Speaker 3: I'm like, yo, make sure to heaven everything.

1715
01:28:22,479 --> 01:28:28,400
Speaker 1: He's gonna make it right. Fixed the speakers somehow they

1716
01:28:28,439 --> 01:28:31,760
Speaker 1: got a bump. They gotta do sound check. I don't care.

1717
01:28:32,200 --> 01:28:35,959
Speaker 3: Even if I don't get get to eat sleep, I'm starving,

1718
01:28:37,000 --> 01:28:41,240
Speaker 3: take a nap. I will not miss sound they produced.

1719
01:28:41,240 --> 01:28:44,000
Speaker 3: It got to be right because a lot of festivals

1720
01:28:44,040 --> 01:28:47,280
Speaker 3: you gotta just plug in check. I'm like, Yo, it's

1721
01:28:47,320 --> 01:28:50,240
Speaker 3: gotta bang, and I'm gonna deliver what you paid to

1722
01:28:50,400 --> 01:28:53,120
Speaker 3: get to get what you paid for. You you're gonna

1723
01:28:53,120 --> 01:28:54,360
Speaker 3: pay to get me again, and you.

1724
01:28:54,360 --> 01:28:56,320
Speaker 1: Want your beat to be hurt, right, so you don't

1725
01:28:56,400 --> 01:29:01,519
Speaker 1: never see like your assistant or nobody you. You said,

1726
01:29:01,560 --> 01:29:03,400
Speaker 1: we'll check it again before we start tonight.

1727
01:29:04,360 --> 01:29:07,880
Speaker 3: But other than that, now I got outside, I want

1728
01:29:07,960 --> 01:29:09,400
Speaker 3: to even see the rock the room looks like, so

1729
01:29:09,400 --> 01:29:11,920
Speaker 3: I already have a picture of what I'm stepping into

1730
01:29:12,000 --> 01:29:13,000
Speaker 3: when the crowd is here.

1731
01:29:13,160 --> 01:29:15,599
Speaker 2: But you gotta let the man do what you gotta

1732
01:29:15,640 --> 01:29:18,439
Speaker 2: do if you want to do it. He wanted to

1733
01:29:18,520 --> 01:29:18,720
Speaker 2: do it.

1734
01:29:23,479 --> 01:29:26,720
Speaker 5: I said, if if free mooted in, he was like yo,

1735
01:29:26,880 --> 01:29:29,320
Speaker 5: he said, he said, you did, stayed there?

1736
01:29:29,439 --> 01:29:30,040
Speaker 2: I would.

1737
01:29:31,760 --> 01:29:35,720
Speaker 3: He know that.

1738
01:29:35,960 --> 01:29:38,320
Speaker 2: I just still love him open up for himself.

1739
01:29:38,400 --> 01:29:40,439
Speaker 1: He would have. He would have, dude, he would have

1740
01:29:40,520 --> 01:29:42,400
Speaker 1: done another hour. And we were like, yo, peak, come on,

1741
01:29:42,840 --> 01:29:44,720
Speaker 1: it's not even a bad thing. And I was like,

1742
01:29:44,840 --> 01:29:45,760
Speaker 1: your peak, come on.

1743
01:29:46,360 --> 01:29:48,320
Speaker 3: We've been on the road where I'll get mad and

1744
01:29:48,439 --> 01:29:52,360
Speaker 3: nothing in a bad way. He's like, Pete, I'm at

1745
01:29:52,439 --> 01:29:53,040
Speaker 3: the record store.

1746
01:29:53,160 --> 01:29:53,599
Speaker 1: He forgot.

1747
01:29:53,640 --> 01:29:56,719
Speaker 3: We were here in Tokyo one time and we're about

1748
01:29:56,720 --> 01:30:00,680
Speaker 3: to miss our plane, and he goes, I gotta get

1749
01:30:00,720 --> 01:30:01,240
Speaker 3: this record.

1750
01:30:01,600 --> 01:30:05,200
Speaker 1: We're like, y'all I'm not missing my plane for you, especially.

1751
01:30:04,880 --> 01:30:07,240
Speaker 3: On the day you're finally going home, and you know,

1752
01:30:07,280 --> 01:30:08,760
Speaker 3: the day you're going home, you're just so ready to

1753
01:30:08,800 --> 01:30:09,360
Speaker 3: go back home.

1754
01:30:09,760 --> 01:30:12,880
Speaker 1: And we've been out for like a week in another country,

1755
01:30:13,240 --> 01:30:14,040
Speaker 1: and he's like, yo.

1756
01:30:14,000 --> 01:30:16,720
Speaker 3: I gotta get this record. I'm like, dogs, if we

1757
01:30:17,160 --> 01:30:19,960
Speaker 3: do not make this plane because of you, we're gonna

1758
01:30:20,000 --> 01:30:22,599
Speaker 3: be And that's actually how the whole Pee Rock versus

1759
01:30:22,720 --> 01:30:25,920
Speaker 3: Premier things started because of that day we got on

1760
01:30:26,000 --> 01:30:27,720
Speaker 3: the Butther said, you know what, man, we need to

1761
01:30:27,760 --> 01:30:29,439
Speaker 3: make an album where we can get our attention now

1762
01:30:29,520 --> 01:30:31,880
Speaker 3: to make the album going at each other, making hill

1763
01:30:32,280 --> 01:30:33,040
Speaker 3: y'all doing the album.

1764
01:30:33,360 --> 01:30:35,559
Speaker 1: We're going to do an album called pe p VP

1765
01:30:36,080 --> 01:30:40,479
Speaker 1: Pete Goddamn the hats the record that record? Are we

1766
01:30:40,600 --> 01:30:46,080
Speaker 1: doing that? You're about a half right recommend with due. Yeah,

1767
01:30:46,080 --> 01:30:47,920
Speaker 1: I have a website that just carries the hats.

1768
01:30:48,560 --> 01:30:52,080
Speaker 3: Now say the website again, Premiere was here dot com

1769
01:30:53,320 --> 01:30:55,439
Speaker 3: dot com to and just go to the shop section.

1770
01:30:57,200 --> 01:31:01,479
Speaker 3: It has all of it has all official Gangshow products,

1771
01:31:01,800 --> 01:31:04,479
Speaker 3: all official Guru products, all official Premier products.

1772
01:31:04,760 --> 01:31:08,400
Speaker 1: And me and Peach share the hats and we have green, red, blue,

1773
01:31:08,479 --> 01:31:09,559
Speaker 1: black and black.

1774
01:31:09,640 --> 01:31:12,280
Speaker 5: We have too, so what happened when y'all saw this

1775
01:31:12,439 --> 01:31:18,920
Speaker 5: battle individually? Know I'm talking about when y'all saw the

1776
01:31:19,080 --> 01:31:19,720
Speaker 5: Just Blade and.

1777
01:31:20,720 --> 01:31:23,960
Speaker 1: Everybody, honestly everybody, we don't acting like that was the

1778
01:31:24,040 --> 01:31:26,559
Speaker 1: first battle and side you know what because we've been

1779
01:31:26,600 --> 01:31:27,479
Speaker 1: doing it so much.

1780
01:31:28,160 --> 01:31:29,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was more like, all right, cool, and this

1781
01:31:29,960 --> 01:31:31,240
Speaker 3: ain't their first battle together.

1782
01:31:31,280 --> 01:31:33,800
Speaker 1: They've done it before. No, no, not, this is the

1783
01:31:33,920 --> 01:31:40,000
Speaker 1: first one. Kanye. It's not drink chance because but it's

1784
01:31:40,040 --> 01:31:46,639
Speaker 1: not drink Kanye. Y'alls is like y'alls is like migrating.

1785
01:31:47,200 --> 01:31:49,160
Speaker 3: But the next day they started posting that me and

1786
01:31:49,240 --> 01:31:51,479
Speaker 3: you need to doing I'm like, we've been doing you've.

1787
01:31:51,320 --> 01:31:51,840
Speaker 1: Been doing it.

1788
01:31:51,920 --> 01:31:53,560
Speaker 5: It's like, y'all miss you need to do you know

1789
01:31:53,680 --> 01:31:56,120
Speaker 5: my hip hop and story and I know, but what

1790
01:31:56,280 --> 01:31:58,360
Speaker 5: did you What was your first.

1791
01:31:58,200 --> 01:32:01,479
Speaker 1: Thing when you when you heard the day battle and Swiss,

1792
01:32:01,720 --> 01:32:07,040
Speaker 1: I have the phone? Where's my phone at you to come?

1793
01:32:07,400 --> 01:32:13,080
Speaker 3: Yes, okay, we believe it. Actually, while we're waiting, I forgot,

1794
01:32:13,320 --> 01:32:19,240
Speaker 3: I got you. We got y'all man Drink Clod and nine.

1795
01:32:19,479 --> 01:32:28,920
Speaker 1: I remember when you did the remix to again Me.

1796
01:32:29,560 --> 01:32:36,599
Speaker 1: I got damn. I don't know, but uh it's from

1797
01:32:36,640 --> 01:32:38,720
Speaker 1: the perspective of what we think is hot. And I

1798
01:32:38,800 --> 01:32:42,400
Speaker 1: remember when you did the remix to uh those calling

1799
01:32:42,520 --> 01:32:45,240
Speaker 1: I picking up those you did what uh?

1800
01:32:45,880 --> 01:32:45,920
Speaker 14: What?

1801
01:32:46,120 --> 01:32:46,240
Speaker 3: Uh?

1802
01:32:46,600 --> 01:32:49,680
Speaker 1: What's the name city boy D? Look at you know

1803
01:32:50,680 --> 01:33:02,000
Speaker 1: element you did a you gotta stop? Definitely know you

1804
01:33:02,080 --> 01:33:09,080
Speaker 1: know past to me now, Yes, yes, yes, I play,

1805
01:33:10,520 --> 01:33:11,360
Speaker 1: I said the Diego.

1806
01:33:13,400 --> 01:33:17,200
Speaker 3: I played your your version more than fast Chapter Fab

1807
01:33:17,400 --> 01:33:21,720
Speaker 3: figure because Fat Fab is a dope lyricist and knows

1808
01:33:21,760 --> 01:33:24,760
Speaker 3: how to do club records, radio records and still have

1809
01:33:24,920 --> 01:33:27,280
Speaker 3: a really clever way of writing his rhymes.

1810
01:33:27,960 --> 01:33:28,479
Speaker 1: Love Fab.

1811
01:33:28,560 --> 01:33:31,320
Speaker 3: I'm a big fan of his, but your version fit

1812
01:33:31,560 --> 01:33:35,160
Speaker 3: more of the format of what I represent the most grimiest,

1813
01:33:37,040 --> 01:33:39,920
Speaker 3: like you said, no clean shoes, no hot I don't like.

1814
01:33:40,080 --> 01:33:41,559
Speaker 1: Your version was the one I played.

1815
01:33:42,240 --> 01:33:45,080
Speaker 3: So it's we're We're on every Friday night from Tempi

1816
01:33:45,160 --> 01:33:48,800
Speaker 3: on the midnight serious light radio Channel forty four.

1817
01:33:48,880 --> 01:33:54,120
Speaker 1: Hip my Nation, and uh, what I represent is the

1818
01:33:54,320 --> 01:33:58,599
Speaker 1: era of the eighties with Morley mal Red alerts, chill out.

1819
01:33:58,560 --> 01:34:04,320
Speaker 3: Also to my just yeah just shut just In the

1820
01:34:04,439 --> 01:34:07,960
Speaker 3: two thousand ear or whatever year we're in, I still

1821
01:34:08,080 --> 01:34:09,760
Speaker 3: keep it to that. And there's so many artists that

1822
01:34:09,840 --> 01:34:13,040
Speaker 3: have hot stuff out that will never get played anywhere else.

1823
01:34:13,120 --> 01:34:15,360
Speaker 3: So I'm like, I'll play it, send it to me

1824
01:34:15,479 --> 01:34:17,240
Speaker 3: if I like it, and it's on that that level,

1825
01:34:17,520 --> 01:34:21,439
Speaker 3: it's gonna get broken. And that way, not only do

1826
01:34:21,560 --> 01:34:24,760
Speaker 3: you trust me, you also start to focus on you

1827
01:34:24,840 --> 01:34:26,920
Speaker 3: know what, if he's playing it, it's gotta be real.

1828
01:34:27,800 --> 01:34:30,040
Speaker 1: And that's really what it is. So all of that

1829
01:34:30,200 --> 01:34:30,680
Speaker 1: truth that.

1830
01:34:32,920 --> 01:34:40,240
Speaker 3: The just blaze Swiss Beast. So it happens, I'm on

1831
01:34:40,320 --> 01:34:42,720
Speaker 3: my way to the show and Swiss is texting me saying, Yo,

1832
01:34:42,880 --> 01:34:44,800
Speaker 3: I'd like you to come check this out. Put my

1833
01:34:44,840 --> 01:34:47,360
Speaker 3: shows off ten to midnight. It's starting at ten o'clock.

1834
01:34:47,840 --> 01:34:49,439
Speaker 3: He's like, Yo, man, I really like it. And now

1835
01:34:49,439 --> 01:34:51,479
Speaker 3: I would have gone definitely. I definitely would have gone.

1836
01:34:51,520 --> 01:34:54,519
Speaker 3: But I'm not abandoned my show because again, it's live.

1837
01:34:54,520 --> 01:34:55,759
Speaker 3: It's not previous pre recorded.

1838
01:34:55,920 --> 01:35:00,840
Speaker 1: Cool. Live is a whole different animal. Five is when

1839
01:35:01,000 --> 01:35:05,160
Speaker 1: you have when I scripted nothing, We just roll, you

1840
01:35:05,240 --> 01:35:05,760
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying.

1841
01:35:06,240 --> 01:35:09,160
Speaker 3: And when it comes to how we do it, everything

1842
01:35:09,320 --> 01:35:12,439
Speaker 3: just flows from minute to minute, second to second, beat

1843
01:35:12,520 --> 01:35:17,160
Speaker 3: to beat, voice to voice on just the realness of

1844
01:35:17,240 --> 01:35:20,080
Speaker 3: hip hop from my perspective. So when it came to

1845
01:35:20,479 --> 01:35:24,760
Speaker 3: Swiss Beats and uh, just Blade doing doing the show.

1846
01:35:25,200 --> 01:35:28,120
Speaker 3: As soon as I got off the air, I checked

1847
01:35:28,160 --> 01:35:29,040
Speaker 3: my Instagram and.

1848
01:35:29,080 --> 01:35:31,640
Speaker 1: Saw they were live. I went to Swiss Beats, I

1849
01:35:31,760 --> 01:35:32,360
Speaker 1: clicked on it.

1850
01:35:33,120 --> 01:35:35,160
Speaker 3: I want to see my man DJ Rectangle, who's one

1851
01:35:35,200 --> 01:35:39,160
Speaker 3: of the dopest battle dude ever give me the scratch Vinyl.

1852
01:35:40,320 --> 01:35:43,240
Speaker 3: I go to his show to watch him do a

1853
01:35:43,800 --> 01:35:46,880
Speaker 3: party gig, and I'm in there with my phone going

1854
01:35:50,080 --> 01:35:53,360
Speaker 3: yeah in the morning, I'm like, just still on from

1855
01:35:53,439 --> 01:35:57,080
Speaker 3: ten oclas, Yeah, and I'm doing this looking at him

1856
01:35:57,080 --> 01:35:57,479
Speaker 3: a little bit.

1857
01:36:00,080 --> 01:36:01,880
Speaker 1: They switch it over now just got the big.

1858
01:36:06,800 --> 01:36:07,400
Speaker 3: And the guy.

1859
01:36:09,520 --> 01:36:12,320
Speaker 1: Said, yo, just playing them still battling. It's almost two

1860
01:36:12,360 --> 01:36:13,840
Speaker 1: in the morning and I'm.

1861
01:36:13,680 --> 01:36:16,559
Speaker 3: Sitting there doing this in a corner in the club

1862
01:36:16,600 --> 01:36:20,560
Speaker 3: where it looks like I'm like a sore thumb, but

1863
01:36:20,680 --> 01:36:22,800
Speaker 3: I'm like, no, I'm watching and check it out because

1864
01:36:22,800 --> 01:36:25,200
Speaker 3: i want to see what they're doing to battle because

1865
01:36:25,200 --> 01:36:26,120
Speaker 3: they started pulling O beas.

1866
01:36:27,640 --> 01:36:30,439
Speaker 1: So that's what I'm like, Will you still a fan

1867
01:36:30,560 --> 01:36:31,519
Speaker 1: of the culture like that?

1868
01:36:31,920 --> 01:36:34,920
Speaker 3: I will remain because you know why, after I guess,

1869
01:36:35,040 --> 01:36:37,439
Speaker 3: being from Texas, I wanted to be accepted by New

1870
01:36:37,520 --> 01:36:40,240
Speaker 3: York because at the time I came if New York

1871
01:36:40,280 --> 01:36:42,120
Speaker 3: didn't accept you. It didn't matter where you were from.

1872
01:36:42,200 --> 01:36:45,519
Speaker 3: And that time that acceptance. I got that acceptance from

1873
01:36:45,560 --> 01:36:46,160
Speaker 3: the greats.

1874
01:36:46,600 --> 01:36:47,280
Speaker 1: I wanted E. P.

1875
01:36:47,439 --> 01:36:50,160
Speaker 3: M D To love me. I wanted Big Daddy came

1876
01:36:50,240 --> 01:36:53,800
Speaker 3: to love me around Kim krst one, I wanted Grandmaster

1877
01:36:53,920 --> 01:37:01,720
Speaker 3: Flash Molly. It was me Jazz, DJ, jase J.

1878
01:37:01,920 --> 01:37:03,360
Speaker 1: You became Jazzy.

1879
01:37:03,240 --> 01:37:08,040
Speaker 3: Jeff Cash Money, d J Scratch and I just want

1880
01:37:08,280 --> 01:37:08,760
Speaker 3: Howie T.

1881
01:37:10,000 --> 01:37:13,920
Speaker 1: Give you ain't smoking? Yeah, smoke though I did earlier. No,

1882
01:37:14,080 --> 01:37:17,760
Speaker 1: let's just say he's earlier. It was That's not the

1883
01:37:17,840 --> 01:37:18,960
Speaker 1: word that was reaching.

1884
01:37:19,080 --> 01:37:19,280
Speaker 3: It was.

1885
01:37:20,840 --> 01:37:21,120
Speaker 1: Sorry.

1886
01:37:22,680 --> 01:37:25,439
Speaker 3: I told you fifty years old, Union State shot shot

1887
01:37:26,080 --> 01:37:31,479
Speaker 3: shot because it got me. Listen, this is when you

1888
01:37:31,680 --> 01:37:36,040
Speaker 3: know you're on point. Never has any drugs that I've

1889
01:37:36,120 --> 01:37:41,080
Speaker 3: ever used defeated me, and at fifty.

1890
01:37:41,400 --> 01:37:43,640
Speaker 1: I'm on my level. You got to take a molly, though,

1891
01:37:43,920 --> 01:37:49,000
Speaker 1: take a molly. This guy, Yes, that was bro dude.

1892
01:37:49,040 --> 01:37:49,240
Speaker 2: That was.

1893
01:37:52,600 --> 01:37:56,360
Speaker 1: That was That was no, no, no, no, that was

1894
01:37:56,400 --> 01:37:58,479
Speaker 1: eighty one when it was called black molly, and that

1895
01:37:58,640 --> 01:38:00,920
Speaker 1: was the own. Oh my god, this is a black molly.

1896
01:38:01,040 --> 01:38:01,360
Speaker 12: What the.

1897
01:38:03,439 --> 01:38:03,920
Speaker 1: Put us on.

1898
01:38:05,800 --> 01:38:05,840
Speaker 3: You?

1899
01:38:07,600 --> 01:38:08,200
Speaker 2: Like a black.

1900
01:38:09,520 --> 01:38:12,560
Speaker 1: Like all that stuff. Now it's just like that's not

1901
01:38:13,000 --> 01:38:15,280
Speaker 1: there's the mumble jumble stuff. Now you know what I'm saying. So,

1902
01:38:15,840 --> 01:38:18,640
Speaker 1: like I said, this is my high school days. So

1903
01:38:18,720 --> 01:38:20,519
Speaker 1: my high school days. I graduated in the high school

1904
01:38:20,520 --> 01:38:24,400
Speaker 1: in eighty four. Okay, And so imagine our era of

1905
01:38:24,800 --> 01:38:27,280
Speaker 1: getting lifted and you're looking good and we're gonna respect you.

1906
01:38:27,479 --> 01:38:30,920
Speaker 1: I just started training again, be black. I'm getting my

1907
01:38:31,760 --> 01:38:33,720
Speaker 1: You know, I love food, man, I love I love

1908
01:38:33,920 --> 01:38:38,000
Speaker 1: ice cream. I love hersy shot shot all that. It's

1909
01:38:38,040 --> 01:38:41,479
Speaker 1: the first time ice cream shout it out on the broadcast. Wait,

1910
01:38:41,600 --> 01:38:45,200
Speaker 1: that's all. And that's that's when you go to the

1911
01:38:46,439 --> 01:38:47,160
Speaker 1: ice cream.

1912
01:38:47,160 --> 01:38:48,519
Speaker 3: If you go to the baskeroom ride and you get

1913
01:38:48,520 --> 01:38:50,960
Speaker 3: treat scoops in the cup, it ain't official till you

1914
01:38:51,040 --> 01:38:52,040
Speaker 3: take the hersy syrup.

1915
01:38:53,760 --> 01:38:54,800
Speaker 1: You can't shot.

1916
01:38:55,200 --> 01:38:57,840
Speaker 3: Syrup when you when you make a wooler, you don't

1917
01:38:57,880 --> 01:38:59,960
Speaker 3: want to see no greens. Let you know, the green

1918
01:39:00,120 --> 01:39:00,759
Speaker 3: is in the blood.

1919
01:39:01,360 --> 01:39:02,200
Speaker 1: That's how you do it.

1920
01:39:02,320 --> 01:39:02,600
Speaker 2: Let's go.

1921
01:39:02,960 --> 01:39:10,720
Speaker 1: That's the level drugs, you know. So I don't I

1922
01:39:10,880 --> 01:39:15,080
Speaker 1: just say that they really just far from all the time.

1923
01:39:15,080 --> 01:39:17,679
Speaker 3: That we've lost and that we've lost to all different

1924
01:39:17,720 --> 01:39:20,439
Speaker 3: things from being shot, being the bad disease and eating

1925
01:39:20,520 --> 01:39:23,880
Speaker 3: bad health all that stuff. It let me know I'm

1926
01:39:23,920 --> 01:39:27,439
Speaker 3: here for a reason. Love your life and fix your

1927
01:39:27,520 --> 01:39:29,680
Speaker 3: life to be able to have a longer life. My

1928
01:39:29,880 --> 01:39:36,519
Speaker 3: parents are eighty My parents, my dad's eighty eight. They

1929
01:39:36,800 --> 01:39:39,519
Speaker 3: they got issues, but they still kicking. My father makes

1930
01:39:39,600 --> 01:39:42,400
Speaker 3: all the food. He's like, get away from say, out

1931
01:39:42,400 --> 01:39:44,479
Speaker 3: of my kitchen. Let me take it on my way.

1932
01:39:45,040 --> 01:39:46,720
Speaker 1: I want to be eighty eight doing that. But I

1933
01:39:46,800 --> 01:39:49,320
Speaker 1: guarantee they never did the black molly. You don't know

1934
01:39:49,439 --> 01:39:55,519
Speaker 1: that his way with the black molly.

1935
01:39:55,560 --> 01:39:55,800
Speaker 2: I'm in.

1936
01:39:58,040 --> 01:40:03,280
Speaker 1: When I was in high school, you have, yes, tenth

1937
01:40:03,360 --> 01:40:09,600
Speaker 1: grade six? Ain't man talking about black mother? When I

1938
01:40:09,680 --> 01:40:10,240
Speaker 1: was sixteen?

1939
01:40:10,320 --> 01:40:14,280
Speaker 3: And when I was sixteen, there was only one ecstasy,

1940
01:40:15,080 --> 01:40:17,720
Speaker 3: only one. It was wait, wait, what year is this?

1941
01:40:18,240 --> 01:40:23,400
Speaker 3: Nineteen eighty eighty two? That was already yeah, okay, yeah,

1942
01:40:23,640 --> 01:40:26,200
Speaker 3: eighty two. Ext I'm forty one.

1943
01:40:26,560 --> 01:40:29,920
Speaker 1: Oh damn wait that ecstasy in eighty two? What the fuck?

1944
01:40:30,680 --> 01:40:32,120
Speaker 1: Actually a white man name?

1945
01:40:32,160 --> 01:40:35,960
Speaker 2: But everybody cool over here, bro, Why.

1946
01:40:35,920 --> 01:40:38,719
Speaker 1: Is that a surprise? Joe dude? It was only one

1947
01:40:39,280 --> 01:40:43,240
Speaker 1: ecstasy was closed this uh, this would right? This would yeah?

1948
01:40:43,520 --> 01:40:43,680
Speaker 3: It was.

1949
01:40:44,160 --> 01:40:47,519
Speaker 1: It was called ecstasy, yes, but damn it wasn't popping

1950
01:40:47,600 --> 01:40:49,880
Speaker 1: til then. I didn't know that you weren't around during

1951
01:40:49,920 --> 01:40:52,760
Speaker 1: that time. This no, no, I was about you tell

1952
01:40:52,760 --> 01:40:56,639
Speaker 1: you one ten years older than you, so you gotta relax.

1953
01:40:59,400 --> 01:40:59,920
Speaker 3: Eighty one.

1954
01:41:00,200 --> 01:41:06,960
Speaker 1: I graduated high school in eighty four. Grag listen, listen.

1955
01:41:07,360 --> 01:41:10,920
Speaker 1: There was like one style of XC, one style of milley.

1956
01:41:10,800 --> 01:41:13,720
Speaker 3: That was it. There wasn't all twenty and there was

1957
01:41:13,880 --> 01:41:17,320
Speaker 3: all these that wasn't really bear and cherry cherry juice

1958
01:41:17,400 --> 01:41:19,080
Speaker 3: and all these funny names.

1959
01:41:19,240 --> 01:41:22,760
Speaker 1: And you smoke coat smoker. Cocaine was more of a

1960
01:41:22,960 --> 01:41:24,519
Speaker 1: smoking cocaine. Let's call it cool.

1961
01:41:24,640 --> 01:41:29,560
Speaker 3: It's called cracko no woola is crack and weed a

1962
01:41:29,760 --> 01:41:32,080
Speaker 3: cool coke and a cigarette.

1963
01:41:32,560 --> 01:41:37,160
Speaker 1: How you smoke it's a crack Damn well, it's yeah, yeah,

1964
01:41:38,040 --> 01:41:40,479
Speaker 1: seventy seven. It's all good. It's even the blackout. I

1965
01:41:40,600 --> 01:41:45,000
Speaker 1: was there. It was it was in my grandfather, but

1966
01:41:45,120 --> 01:41:47,880
Speaker 1: I was there staying with my grandfather. Turn off.

1967
01:41:49,360 --> 01:41:52,000
Speaker 3: But yeah, during those days, it was only one of

1968
01:41:52,040 --> 01:41:54,479
Speaker 3: each tide. That's why when I see what's going on now,

1969
01:41:54,560 --> 01:41:55,840
Speaker 3: it's like, damn man, these.

1970
01:41:55,680 --> 01:41:59,080
Speaker 1: People are so lost because there's all kinds of weird

1971
01:41:59,160 --> 01:41:59,719
Speaker 1: ship flowing.

1972
01:41:59,720 --> 01:41:59,840
Speaker 14: Now.

1973
01:42:00,000 --> 01:42:01,840
Speaker 1: Don't want to be around none of that, you know,

1974
01:42:02,200 --> 01:42:03,360
Speaker 1: we're around the pure.

1975
01:42:03,439 --> 01:42:07,160
Speaker 3: And again that that's kind of like the hippie seventies hallucinogens.

1976
01:42:07,280 --> 01:42:09,840
Speaker 1: It was a time and all the the the those

1977
01:42:09,920 --> 01:42:15,360
Speaker 1: beat is making the give the drugs a little bit

1978
01:42:15,400 --> 01:42:15,880
Speaker 1: of props.

1979
01:42:17,439 --> 01:42:18,479
Speaker 3: We have to be.

1980
01:42:19,840 --> 01:42:23,320
Speaker 1: You're the only guy that I feel like you got

1981
01:42:23,400 --> 01:42:26,479
Speaker 1: to making.

1982
01:42:29,600 --> 01:42:29,880
Speaker 3: Drugs.

1983
01:42:29,960 --> 01:42:33,240
Speaker 1: But but again, I'm glad that drink.

1984
01:42:33,280 --> 01:42:35,639
Speaker 3: I'm glad that I understand the concept of that era

1985
01:42:36,160 --> 01:42:39,960
Speaker 3: because understanding it and understanding where your cut off point is,

1986
01:42:40,920 --> 01:42:43,280
Speaker 3: you don't need to rehab. You reab yourself with your mind.

1987
01:42:44,600 --> 01:42:48,760
Speaker 3: I always said that you control of yourself. I know

1988
01:42:48,840 --> 01:42:52,720
Speaker 3: when control with you myself, that's too much. Go back

1989
01:42:52,760 --> 01:42:55,840
Speaker 3: to normal. And then that that's how people can wonder

1990
01:42:55,960 --> 01:42:59,599
Speaker 3: about you. But they can't say, yo, my man is lost,

1991
01:42:59,680 --> 01:43:01,759
Speaker 3: he's you can never say I'm gone.

1992
01:43:02,120 --> 01:43:08,800
Speaker 1: I'm always here. Let's make some for that now. He

1993
01:43:08,960 --> 01:43:14,479
Speaker 1: was recently beefing with what what Young Liggy was being.

1994
01:43:15,600 --> 01:43:19,439
Speaker 2: Listen from young Dog.

1995
01:43:20,120 --> 01:43:20,640
Speaker 1: You don't even know.

1996
01:43:21,040 --> 01:43:24,160
Speaker 16: I mean all of us from our time, we all

1997
01:43:25,280 --> 01:43:30,519
Speaker 16: describe what happened. He dissatisfied with the no, he's not,

1998
01:43:30,680 --> 01:43:31,680
Speaker 16: he's not. I'll say this.

1999
01:43:31,960 --> 01:43:35,040
Speaker 3: We avery targetment had a little listen I had a

2000
01:43:35,040 --> 01:43:36,360
Speaker 3: little hoosy verse situation.

2001
01:43:36,800 --> 01:43:37,840
Speaker 2: Oh that was you.

2002
01:43:38,760 --> 01:43:39,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, But.

2003
01:43:42,080 --> 01:43:45,080
Speaker 3: I wasn't offended by that, offended that he don't want

2004
01:43:45,080 --> 01:43:46,479
Speaker 3: to wrap to that if that's not what you want

2005
01:43:46,520 --> 01:43:49,200
Speaker 3: to wrap was massive, that's not.

2006
01:43:49,280 --> 01:43:52,360
Speaker 1: Really a beat. Don't make sense for him, don't make

2007
01:43:52,400 --> 01:43:53,960
Speaker 1: sense for him, don't make sense for him.

2008
01:43:55,080 --> 01:43:57,960
Speaker 3: Those gangsta you can wrap to for freestyle time out.

2009
01:43:59,520 --> 01:44:00,559
Speaker 3: It wasn't mass appeal.

2010
01:44:00,960 --> 01:44:07,040
Speaker 1: It was was from memory. Man, Sorry, I saw it too,

2011
01:44:07,520 --> 01:44:10,760
Speaker 1: and what happened? Describe I'm not rapping to that? So

2012
01:44:11,160 --> 01:44:14,599
Speaker 1: and he said, why is that break beat? So listen?

2013
01:44:14,760 --> 01:44:17,479
Speaker 3: He still would Twitter started blowing up on my Twitter.

2014
01:44:18,439 --> 01:44:21,000
Speaker 3: He started getting out of hand, everybody disting him. Then

2015
01:44:21,160 --> 01:44:23,439
Speaker 3: he joins in. So I watched see what he says.

2016
01:44:23,439 --> 01:44:25,360
Speaker 3: So I checked his traffic because I got to make

2017
01:44:25,400 --> 01:44:28,080
Speaker 3: sure I'm on point before I do anything. You always

2018
01:44:28,120 --> 01:44:29,640
Speaker 3: gotta stay focused.

2019
01:44:29,280 --> 01:44:31,080
Speaker 1: On being on point. I know who I am.

2020
01:44:31,479 --> 01:44:32,720
Speaker 3: I don't never want to be looked at as a

2021
01:44:32,760 --> 01:44:35,280
Speaker 3: person that got played ever and not really be looked

2022
01:44:35,320 --> 01:44:39,240
Speaker 3: that way. Absolutely, So when I checked the thread, I

2023
01:44:39,400 --> 01:44:41,439
Speaker 3: was like, yo, yeah, because it's getting out of hand.

2024
01:44:41,640 --> 01:44:44,720
Speaker 1: My fans are going hard on him, like yo, you

2025
01:44:45,200 --> 01:44:48,920
Speaker 1: know they they're doing enough with this. They want to

2026
01:44:49,000 --> 01:44:51,960
Speaker 1: kill him. Yeah, So I'm like, yo, I'm like, listen,

2027
01:44:53,000 --> 01:44:55,760
Speaker 1: big up to him. Man, he ain't get around to that.

2028
01:44:56,160 --> 01:44:57,800
Speaker 1: If he don't like that, he doesn't like that. That's

2029
01:44:57,800 --> 01:45:00,720
Speaker 1: what I put he said, then wrapped to what he

2030
01:45:00,760 --> 01:45:02,720
Speaker 1: feels like. It's comfortable. So that made him join in

2031
01:45:03,080 --> 01:45:06,120
Speaker 1: and said, yo, d m me. We damned each other.

2032
01:45:06,160 --> 01:45:09,519
Speaker 3: He said, listen, man, anything I can learn from you,

2033
01:45:10,400 --> 01:45:15,680
Speaker 3: put me on and and give me. I said, you

2034
01:45:15,720 --> 01:45:17,800
Speaker 3: know what, we didn't know what I said, I'm down

2035
01:45:17,880 --> 01:45:20,559
Speaker 3: to doing join with you. My fans may get mad,

2036
01:45:20,760 --> 01:45:24,840
Speaker 3: but the only nine The difference is I'm not going

2037
01:45:24,920 --> 01:45:25,920
Speaker 3: to make a record.

2038
01:45:25,680 --> 01:45:28,880
Speaker 1: That I can't let leave the studio to me and

2039
01:45:29,080 --> 01:45:30,720
Speaker 1: him on the same level where it say, yo, wait

2040
01:45:30,720 --> 01:45:33,320
Speaker 1: today you got to you gotta compromise yourself. You're gonna

2041
01:45:33,320 --> 01:45:36,320
Speaker 1: work no. But but that's what I like. Let me

2042
01:45:36,400 --> 01:45:37,760
Speaker 1: tell you something. Let me tell you something.

2043
01:45:37,840 --> 01:45:41,760
Speaker 5: When you work with Pream, you work with Pete, these

2044
01:45:41,920 --> 01:45:43,840
Speaker 5: brothers are so professional.

2045
01:45:44,840 --> 01:45:47,519
Speaker 1: All you gotta do is send the vocals and then relax.

2046
01:45:49,120 --> 01:45:52,519
Speaker 3: He told me the skills that I turned into my

2047
01:45:52,680 --> 01:45:54,599
Speaker 3: own skill and it's not biting them.

2048
01:45:55,080 --> 01:45:56,600
Speaker 1: But he's like Yo, this is how you do it.

2049
01:45:57,400 --> 01:45:57,800
Speaker 3: I was like.

2050
01:45:59,360 --> 01:46:00,760
Speaker 1: This, I say, yo, by I was like, how are

2051
01:46:00,800 --> 01:46:03,840
Speaker 1: you making that? I was like, how are you making

2052
01:46:03,920 --> 01:46:08,200
Speaker 1: the base get fuller? And mimick the sample? He said,

2053
01:46:08,240 --> 01:46:10,400
Speaker 1: it's the same sample, but I feel to them. I'm like,

2054
01:46:10,439 --> 01:46:12,400
Speaker 1: but how do you do that? And he says, come over,

2055
01:46:12,439 --> 01:46:15,360
Speaker 1: I'll show you, but don't show me. He showed me.

2056
01:46:15,439 --> 01:46:19,840
Speaker 3: I'm like, so you turn it to that same thing

2057
01:46:19,960 --> 01:46:22,280
Speaker 3: we have. But I never knew that part of the

2058
01:46:22,400 --> 01:46:25,519
Speaker 3: equipment he said, turned into that. I started doing it

2059
01:46:25,720 --> 01:46:26,880
Speaker 3: ex girl or the next girl.

2060
01:46:27,920 --> 01:46:33,080
Speaker 1: That's one of my joints rights. This reminds me of

2061
01:46:33,160 --> 01:46:36,479
Speaker 1: all my relationships. So when it goes in that part,

2062
01:46:36,520 --> 01:46:41,080
Speaker 1: where does it go? It muffled. I sent it to

2063
01:46:41,160 --> 01:46:43,280
Speaker 1: Pete to make sure I was doing it right. I

2064
01:46:43,320 --> 01:46:43,880
Speaker 1: love my wife.

2065
01:46:44,040 --> 01:46:46,040
Speaker 3: Sorry, I believe in myself and all that stuff, but

2066
01:46:46,080 --> 01:46:47,400
Speaker 3: I wanted to make sure I was doing it right.

2067
01:46:47,439 --> 01:46:49,920
Speaker 3: So I sent it to him for approval and I go, yo.

2068
01:46:49,960 --> 01:46:51,840
Speaker 1: Did I do it right? He goes, Lo, that's gonna

2069
01:46:51,840 --> 01:46:54,640
Speaker 1: be a hit. It was a hit, big hit.

2070
01:46:55,200 --> 01:46:58,960
Speaker 3: So when you come back, that right there shows you

2071
01:46:59,080 --> 01:47:02,080
Speaker 3: that there is respect for what he was doing before

2072
01:47:02,120 --> 01:47:05,000
Speaker 3: I even knew how he was doing it. He was

2073
01:47:05,120 --> 01:47:08,160
Speaker 3: willing to show me the trick because he knew. He

2074
01:47:08,520 --> 01:47:10,160
Speaker 3: didn't think it like, oh no, you would beat my

2075
01:47:10,280 --> 01:47:14,160
Speaker 3: bite my style, Nah, let me borrow that tool. And

2076
01:47:14,280 --> 01:47:17,040
Speaker 3: then when I applied that tool, it wasn't a bite.

2077
01:47:17,280 --> 01:47:20,280
Speaker 3: It's just another another extension of what he taught me.

2078
01:47:20,640 --> 01:47:25,200
Speaker 3: That's why hamlags professors showbiz on my three mentors and

2079
01:47:25,280 --> 01:47:25,880
Speaker 3: again Marlly.

2080
01:47:25,960 --> 01:47:29,280
Speaker 1: Marl didn't show me anything in person, but just what

2081
01:47:29,439 --> 01:47:30,240
Speaker 1: he did.

2082
01:47:31,000 --> 01:47:34,519
Speaker 3: Make the music with your mouth biz. Nobody beats to Biz,

2083
01:47:35,320 --> 01:47:37,280
Speaker 3: rode to the ridges. A lot of people in the

2084
01:47:37,360 --> 01:47:39,800
Speaker 3: circle have said they've given him them the I gave

2085
01:47:39,840 --> 01:47:40,439
Speaker 3: him that record.

2086
01:47:40,600 --> 01:47:43,439
Speaker 1: That's all good. He did the.

2087
01:47:47,840 --> 01:47:51,000
Speaker 3: That's what it's all about. Who made it bounce that way?

2088
01:47:51,040 --> 01:47:52,559
Speaker 3: Who made your echo sound that way?

2089
01:47:52,760 --> 01:47:55,120
Speaker 1: Who made your voice sound funky that way?

2090
01:47:55,680 --> 01:47:58,320
Speaker 3: Marlly did it, And that's all that matters to me

2091
01:47:58,840 --> 01:48:02,439
Speaker 3: because that's what makes me the premiere in order to

2092
01:48:02,680 --> 01:48:04,360
Speaker 3: be to stay doing it the way you do it

2093
01:48:04,400 --> 01:48:07,080
Speaker 3: for the rest of my life and in my passion,

2094
01:48:07,600 --> 01:48:10,680
Speaker 3: it's because of how I study a great one. So

2095
01:48:10,920 --> 01:48:12,880
Speaker 3: whatever you brought to him is what you brought to him.

2096
01:48:13,320 --> 01:48:15,840
Speaker 3: He still made it glow. Guruus to always say that

2097
01:48:16,439 --> 01:48:19,600
Speaker 3: you and Eddie Sancho make everything glow. He said, I

2098
01:48:19,800 --> 01:48:22,000
Speaker 3: just laid my part down, but you make it light up.

2099
01:48:22,600 --> 01:48:24,760
Speaker 3: Mally makes things light up. So no matter what you

2100
01:48:24,880 --> 01:48:27,640
Speaker 3: bring him or you gave him everything, he made it

2101
01:48:27,760 --> 01:48:30,080
Speaker 3: light up. And without the light, there's darkness. I want

2102
01:48:30,120 --> 01:48:31,880
Speaker 3: to be in light. What do y'all think about like

2103
01:48:32,280 --> 01:48:34,240
Speaker 3: the separation of sampling and hip hop?

2104
01:48:34,720 --> 01:48:38,400
Speaker 1: No, I mean does it matter. We understand the rules

2105
01:48:38,520 --> 01:48:39,519
Speaker 1: and the sample of law.

2106
01:48:39,600 --> 01:48:43,760
Speaker 3: I mean I understand it sampling finance, but it takes

2107
01:48:43,800 --> 01:48:45,559
Speaker 3: away the soul me personally.

2108
01:48:45,640 --> 01:48:48,240
Speaker 1: I think sometimes it doesn't. You just get ill with

2109
01:48:48,320 --> 01:48:52,439
Speaker 1: your sample. Well man cutting it so nobody knows what

2110
01:48:52,520 --> 01:48:55,560
Speaker 1: it is. If it's bad, but you're still sampling, you

2111
01:48:55,640 --> 01:49:01,879
Speaker 1: may go and just get there. You're still sampling little bootprint,

2112
01:49:02,120 --> 01:49:03,240
Speaker 1: which is what which?

2113
01:49:03,479 --> 01:49:07,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, the traps, I mean we're lost because we're not

2114
01:49:07,520 --> 01:49:13,880
Speaker 3: records in little little Oh, like we know now the

2115
01:49:14,040 --> 01:49:17,120
Speaker 3: safety Z versus and then it's a point where we

2116
01:49:17,200 --> 01:49:19,120
Speaker 3: got to do it and it's really that that that

2117
01:49:19,560 --> 01:49:24,160
Speaker 3: that important? Clear clear clear Now I got mad clear now, No,

2118
01:49:24,240 --> 01:49:26,080
Speaker 3: we got no money. We can't clear anything.

2119
01:49:30,880 --> 01:49:31,680
Speaker 1: Don't tell me that I.

2120
01:49:34,680 --> 01:49:36,519
Speaker 2: Like I said, he taught me scratch ups. If you

2121
01:49:36,680 --> 01:49:39,439
Speaker 2: just listen to a lot of my joints, it's just

2122
01:49:39,600 --> 01:49:40,840
Speaker 2: me scratches.

2123
01:49:41,240 --> 01:49:45,280
Speaker 1: And they're crazy. You were doing radio already with Marley ma.

2124
01:49:45,520 --> 01:49:50,080
Speaker 3: I'm like, damn, this new guy, Pete Browden, he's nasty

2125
01:49:50,160 --> 01:49:52,360
Speaker 3: because Molly had a certain scratch style.

2126
01:49:53,080 --> 01:49:55,360
Speaker 5: Showed us out there, kind of found Nigga, I'm gonna

2127
01:49:55,360 --> 01:49:56,479
Speaker 5: smoke with camel crush.

2128
01:49:57,200 --> 01:50:00,640
Speaker 1: In our face. Our face died because it.

2129
01:50:02,880 --> 01:50:06,920
Speaker 3: Just give us cancer people, Okay with white people like

2130
01:50:07,080 --> 01:50:08,800
Speaker 3: lucky strikes, callnaments?

2131
01:50:09,200 --> 01:50:17,200
Speaker 1: You got the momaments? Are you good the white person?

2132
01:50:18,080 --> 01:50:20,360
Speaker 3: What? When we did the record, the record that we

2133
01:50:20,439 --> 01:50:24,200
Speaker 3: did together, I say, I think that I was the

2134
01:50:24,280 --> 01:50:27,879
Speaker 3: first person to ask you to cut up Guru's vocals.

2135
01:50:28,160 --> 01:50:31,000
Speaker 1: Was I would have sent me everything, right, every person

2136
01:50:31,040 --> 01:50:34,640
Speaker 1: to do that or no, no, no no.

2137
01:50:34,760 --> 01:50:39,639
Speaker 3: But after his death, that's what I'm saying, Oh yeah, yeah, okay,

2138
01:50:40,640 --> 01:50:41,479
Speaker 3: you send me everything.

2139
01:50:41,640 --> 01:50:42,120
Speaker 9: Yeah no.

2140
01:50:42,280 --> 01:50:45,519
Speaker 3: He had hosted Mad States from me. He had case

2141
01:50:45,880 --> 01:50:50,840
Speaker 3: and I was honored. Yeah yeah, yeah, No d J

2142
01:50:51,120 --> 01:50:54,880
Speaker 3: e f N no ef N was Guru DJ was case?

2143
01:50:56,000 --> 01:50:58,040
Speaker 3: Damn your memory really isn't backing?

2144
01:51:00,120 --> 01:51:01,080
Speaker 2: Have nothing against him?

2145
01:51:01,160 --> 01:51:05,439
Speaker 1: I think they have hill memories. Yeah, memory, I apologize fact,

2146
01:51:05,920 --> 01:51:13,120
Speaker 1: no need, but passes. There's no apology needed when you

2147
01:51:13,280 --> 01:51:18,560
Speaker 1: had this word, so pol don't get that.

2148
01:51:19,200 --> 01:51:22,680
Speaker 5: Only sold one million records, so you have to you

2149
01:51:22,760 --> 01:51:28,600
Speaker 5: think it's better stop listen seasons, all right, but google Bachaco?

2150
01:51:29,240 --> 01:51:34,800
Speaker 1: Who passes away? What's what? What's this man?

2151
01:51:35,439 --> 01:51:35,840
Speaker 3: His name?

2152
01:51:36,680 --> 01:51:41,160
Speaker 1: You gotta say it. I can't say no, no, no, no,

2153
01:51:41,560 --> 01:51:46,080
Speaker 1: not even yeah, holy ship? What's going on right now?

2154
01:51:46,600 --> 01:51:46,720
Speaker 3: You know?

2155
01:51:47,200 --> 01:51:49,120
Speaker 1: He'll help me out. He don't deserve, he don't deserve

2156
01:51:49,160 --> 01:51:52,160
Speaker 1: to be being said from instead a good person. Ain't

2157
01:51:52,160 --> 01:51:56,880
Speaker 1: gonna say the Solar and the friends. No, no, that's

2158
01:51:56,920 --> 01:51:59,479
Speaker 1: two different ones and it's not the same. He's so large,

2159
01:51:59,800 --> 01:52:02,599
Speaker 1: so l a, it's another soul. He's from France.

2160
01:52:02,640 --> 01:52:05,639
Speaker 3: He's dope, that's my dude, right, So there's another so together,

2161
01:52:06,200 --> 01:52:07,479
Speaker 3: all right, so we got to clarify.

2162
01:52:07,560 --> 01:52:12,920
Speaker 5: That's so I'm so sorry to actually as long as

2163
01:52:12,960 --> 01:52:16,720
Speaker 5: you said. But Solar makes these claims, and then with

2164
01:52:16,920 --> 01:52:19,640
Speaker 5: this premier standing on these claims.

2165
01:52:19,600 --> 01:52:23,040
Speaker 3: Ohship and all that type of stuff put to you

2166
01:52:23,200 --> 01:52:28,000
Speaker 3: like this, people could yeah say what they want to

2167
01:52:28,080 --> 01:52:29,439
Speaker 3: say and all that type of stuff.

2168
01:52:29,479 --> 01:52:31,200
Speaker 1: That's all cool because I don't have nothing to say

2169
01:52:31,280 --> 01:52:35,640
Speaker 1: when it comes to that. But if old boy does anything,

2170
01:52:36,439 --> 01:52:36,840
Speaker 1: then I'm.

2171
01:52:36,720 --> 01:52:39,679
Speaker 3: Gonna have a lot to sense a problem. Sybil and plan.

2172
01:52:40,840 --> 01:52:42,439
Speaker 3: That's my belichick, mam, and heard you.

2173
01:52:43,439 --> 01:52:50,560
Speaker 1: That was Bill BELLI done. What's agree? We love you,

2174
01:52:51,400 --> 01:52:53,960
Speaker 1: we love you back, and we love you and everything

2175
01:52:54,040 --> 01:52:56,040
Speaker 1: you meant to hip hop and then you know it

2176
01:52:56,120 --> 01:52:58,360
Speaker 1: was it was a funny moment. What everything I mean

2177
01:52:58,439 --> 01:52:58,680
Speaker 1: to him?

2178
01:53:00,080 --> 01:53:04,800
Speaker 5: Everything I apologize, you mean the hip hop and you know,

2179
01:53:05,439 --> 01:53:07,679
Speaker 5: it was a funny moment for us in hip hop

2180
01:53:08,040 --> 01:53:11,240
Speaker 5: when we got to hear like, you know, it's like

2181
01:53:11,360 --> 01:53:15,240
Speaker 5: yo gangs so and you know room and then then

2182
01:53:15,320 --> 01:53:19,880
Speaker 5: this guy we never because it's similar to how Pun like.

2183
01:53:20,000 --> 01:53:23,840
Speaker 5: When Pun died, I walked to his casket and they

2184
01:53:24,000 --> 01:53:25,200
Speaker 5: told me, I said, all the.

2185
01:53:25,320 --> 01:53:30,280
Speaker 3: Jewels, because I thought the most funeral rooms the caskets

2186
01:53:30,280 --> 01:53:33,840
Speaker 3: at the front. His was in the middle, middle of

2187
01:53:33,880 --> 01:53:36,800
Speaker 3: the lord. So when I'm walking like he was right there,

2188
01:53:37,320 --> 01:53:40,160
Speaker 3: right there, and the casket. I've never seen a casket

2189
01:53:40,280 --> 01:53:42,960
Speaker 3: like this. Okay, I've never seen the castle like this.

2190
01:53:43,080 --> 01:53:47,920
Speaker 3: The casket was short and super duper live, and he

2191
01:53:48,000 --> 01:53:51,040
Speaker 3: had all his ts changed around his hands and it

2192
01:53:51,120 --> 01:53:53,240
Speaker 3: looked like he was kissing the sky because the lips

2193
01:53:53,280 --> 01:53:55,720
Speaker 3: were puck it up, like that's the man.

2194
01:53:55,800 --> 01:53:59,600
Speaker 5: That's my point to bring this up was when I

2195
01:54:00,160 --> 01:54:02,600
Speaker 5: when I went to Punt's casket, people told me that

2196
01:54:02,760 --> 01:54:06,599
Speaker 5: Pun and subject, that something Pun suffered, right.

2197
01:54:06,720 --> 01:54:08,960
Speaker 1: And that now he's in a better place. And I didn't.

2198
01:54:09,040 --> 01:54:12,800
Speaker 1: I didn't know what people meant by that. So when

2199
01:54:12,840 --> 01:54:16,800
Speaker 1: I heard, you know, Googles, yeah, and I've never I've

2200
01:54:16,880 --> 01:54:21,080
Speaker 1: never seen Google suffering, nah, So I ain't neither me either.

2201
01:54:21,800 --> 01:54:25,920
Speaker 1: So everything was just a strange to not just me, everybody,

2202
01:54:26,040 --> 01:54:30,040
Speaker 1: and like, if not the fans who we are massive,

2203
01:54:30,800 --> 01:54:33,880
Speaker 1: it's strange to everybody. It's strange to me. It's strange

2204
01:54:33,960 --> 01:54:37,240
Speaker 1: to the fans because old boy don't know my man

2205
01:54:37,400 --> 01:54:38,360
Speaker 1: like I know my man.

2206
01:54:38,840 --> 01:54:43,040
Speaker 3: We know him well, Yes, yes, If I really wanted

2207
01:54:43,080 --> 01:54:47,840
Speaker 3: to grade dude on a five quiz question.

2208
01:54:47,760 --> 01:54:54,920
Speaker 1: There, I guarantee you'll fail. Every answer simple and plain because.

2209
01:54:54,640 --> 01:54:58,680
Speaker 3: You had to really really really really really really really

2210
01:54:58,840 --> 01:55:03,040
Speaker 3: really know my So you will fail. I can watch

2211
01:55:03,080 --> 01:55:06,040
Speaker 3: you right now and make every little sense simple questions.

2212
01:55:06,520 --> 01:55:08,879
Speaker 3: How hard on simple questions?

2213
01:55:09,120 --> 01:55:10,200
Speaker 1: He's going to fail.

2214
01:55:10,480 --> 01:55:14,720
Speaker 3: And it's gonna also be multiple choice ABC A D

2215
01:55:15,520 --> 01:55:16,760
Speaker 3: not gonna pick the right answer.

2216
01:55:16,960 --> 01:55:19,400
Speaker 1: And I know this because I know this and I

2217
01:55:19,520 --> 01:55:20,920
Speaker 1: know him. I know both of them.

2218
01:55:21,800 --> 01:55:26,040
Speaker 3: So that's why I don't entertain him, because anytime he

2219
01:55:26,200 --> 01:55:28,400
Speaker 3: wants to ever go there, I'm here.

2220
01:55:28,720 --> 01:55:32,480
Speaker 1: I mean, if I'm not here, I'm here, you feel me.

2221
01:55:36,440 --> 01:55:41,120
Speaker 1: I will not say his name. It's because hip hop

2222
01:55:41,240 --> 01:55:43,560
Speaker 1: needed to hear that hip hop?

2223
01:55:44,920 --> 01:55:45,960
Speaker 2: How can we make them do that?

2224
01:55:46,760 --> 01:55:48,200
Speaker 1: When things is the right move?

2225
01:55:48,680 --> 01:55:50,960
Speaker 3: I know when it is about the right people around me,

2226
01:55:51,040 --> 01:55:54,960
Speaker 3: from legal to my management, to my artists, to the street.

2227
01:55:55,080 --> 01:55:58,320
Speaker 3: Me even being in the street, I have extream mentality

2228
01:55:58,680 --> 01:56:01,600
Speaker 3: that keeps me grounded. And I have a dope mom

2229
01:56:01,680 --> 01:56:04,400
Speaker 3: and dad and sisters and niece and nephews. Your five

2230
01:56:04,480 --> 01:56:07,400
Speaker 3: year old son, who's my dude, shout to his mother.

2231
01:56:07,560 --> 01:56:13,000
Speaker 3: She's everybody Like, we're that connected on making sure we

2232
01:56:13,120 --> 01:56:15,920
Speaker 3: don't ever fuck up with the social media.

2233
01:56:15,720 --> 01:56:18,760
Speaker 1: Stuff making us look like we're fools. Ain't going out

2234
01:56:18,840 --> 01:56:29,040
Speaker 1: like that. I'm premiere. Listen, I'm gonna be honest. I'm

2235
01:56:29,040 --> 01:56:31,520
Speaker 1: gonna be honest with me. And this guy to the

2236
01:56:31,640 --> 01:56:34,960
Speaker 1: right of me started this and we sat down and

2237
01:56:35,080 --> 01:56:39,360
Speaker 1: we said we want the only give love to the legends.

2238
01:56:40,760 --> 01:56:41,960
Speaker 1: The legends and hip hop.

2239
01:56:43,040 --> 01:56:46,400
Speaker 5: You guys are the impitted me of leg This is

2240
01:56:47,080 --> 01:56:49,520
Speaker 5: this is the pinnacle and I can't I can't thank

2241
01:56:49,600 --> 01:56:51,640
Speaker 5: you enough, like you know, both of you guys that

2242
01:56:51,760 --> 01:56:52,520
Speaker 5: gave me beats.

2243
01:56:54,120 --> 01:56:57,400
Speaker 10: And that's what's crazy about this about it is I

2244
01:56:57,520 --> 01:57:03,720
Speaker 10: still can't do that. I still oh yeah, I still

2245
01:57:03,880 --> 01:57:07,040
Speaker 10: owe you both because I love.

2246
01:57:06,960 --> 01:57:14,760
Speaker 1: You, don't na, I love you guys, because definitely I'm starting.

2247
01:57:15,320 --> 01:57:17,000
Speaker 1: I'm just ready to give yourself.

2248
01:57:17,400 --> 01:57:20,560
Speaker 6: Would that be that me tonight? Please give me that

2249
01:57:20,800 --> 01:57:24,440
Speaker 6: be That's crazy, man, Dude, I was going to peep

2250
01:57:24,480 --> 01:57:33,120
Speaker 6: with imagine you give me because I want Pete to know, so.

2251
01:57:35,320 --> 01:57:39,080
Speaker 1: Up the club. I really want to do this for

2252
01:57:39,200 --> 01:57:40,320
Speaker 1: your album, Pete.

2253
01:57:41,200 --> 01:57:44,000
Speaker 5: For man, if it wasn't for you, guys, I probably

2254
01:57:44,040 --> 01:57:45,720
Speaker 5: wouldn't have a childhood, no doubt.

2255
01:57:45,840 --> 01:57:48,800
Speaker 1: And this is real ship, man, that's real ship. I

2256
01:57:48,920 --> 01:57:51,840
Speaker 1: really love you. Joint said we love but I want

2257
01:57:51,880 --> 01:58:05,720
Speaker 1: to just tell I heard oh okay, look I don't Swiss.

2258
01:58:06,440 --> 01:58:12,920
Speaker 3: Swiss not only killed that everybody on that song destroyed

2259
01:58:13,200 --> 01:58:13,640
Speaker 3: and dude, you.

2260
01:58:13,680 --> 01:58:16,160
Speaker 1: Had I wanted to do a posse cut. You know

2261
01:58:16,280 --> 01:58:20,560
Speaker 1: what happened. I wanted to do a posse cut your

2262
01:58:20,760 --> 01:58:24,720
Speaker 1: body that open whoever get crazy ship, whoever goes first

2263
01:58:24,760 --> 01:58:27,320
Speaker 1: to me, and whoever goes last has the most pressure.

2264
01:58:27,920 --> 01:58:30,280
Speaker 1: I went last. That was that era because right now

2265
01:58:32,280 --> 01:58:35,160
Speaker 1: the record, I have to punt. It was nature pun

2266
01:58:35,640 --> 01:58:37,320
Speaker 1: cam what what you wanted?

2267
01:58:37,480 --> 01:58:39,880
Speaker 5: I'm the last you can what what all you wanted?

2268
01:58:40,200 --> 01:58:43,080
Speaker 5: That's what I wanted to do, dude. But you know what,

2269
01:58:43,800 --> 01:58:46,320
Speaker 5: my whole life, my whole career wouldn't make sense.

2270
01:58:46,520 --> 01:58:47,600
Speaker 1: I have a question if it.

2271
01:58:47,760 --> 01:58:48,080
Speaker 2: Was for you.

2272
01:58:48,280 --> 01:58:50,440
Speaker 3: I have a question on that song he said, That's

2273
01:58:50,480 --> 01:58:53,240
Speaker 3: why I'll never do a song with you. Wasn't directed

2274
01:58:53,240 --> 01:58:53,880
Speaker 3: to anybody else.

2275
01:58:53,920 --> 01:58:57,080
Speaker 1: I just hate you're talking about somebody, bro, I want

2276
01:59:00,080 --> 01:59:02,720
Speaker 1: what I know he was talking about somebody directing somebody

2277
01:59:03,000 --> 01:59:05,040
Speaker 1: or is because you know, I can also be universal.

2278
01:59:05,160 --> 01:59:09,880
Speaker 1: Just he's somebody I know this guy like that's why

2279
01:59:09,920 --> 01:59:12,240
Speaker 1: I'm not It was like Joseph on the Block.

2280
01:59:12,640 --> 01:59:15,440
Speaker 5: It's very trick because the thing about it is this,

2281
01:59:17,920 --> 01:59:22,000
Speaker 5: I'm very pretty for me. I'm sorry sometimes you got

2282
01:59:22,120 --> 01:59:23,640
Speaker 5: to I'm very credit Pete.

2283
01:59:24,360 --> 01:59:28,760
Speaker 1: So just I don't get trying to come up and

2284
01:59:28,880 --> 01:59:32,040
Speaker 1: you take a slight shot at me, I'm coming to

2285
01:59:32,120 --> 01:59:35,400
Speaker 1: fuck out. I'm bodying you on the wreck, which is

2286
01:59:35,560 --> 01:59:40,960
Speaker 1: very very but that's what that's who I am when

2287
01:59:41,000 --> 01:59:43,280
Speaker 1: I met him. This is how he looked at me.

2288
01:59:43,840 --> 01:59:47,720
Speaker 3: Get only twist in his head that he's at the

2289
01:59:47,760 --> 01:59:49,640
Speaker 3: front door. Yo, we gotta sesching up a D N

2290
01:59:49,720 --> 01:59:52,200
Speaker 3: D yo for me. I love your stuff, yo, Jo,

2291
01:59:55,680 --> 01:59:56,040
Speaker 3: how you doing?

2292
01:59:56,120 --> 02:00:04,480
Speaker 1: He's like, yeah, but l A l A l A

2293
02:00:04,680 --> 02:00:06,240
Speaker 1: was really bumping with a lot of d js at

2294
02:00:06,240 --> 02:00:09,120
Speaker 1: that time. It was early, so we don't really know

2295
02:00:09,200 --> 02:00:09,920
Speaker 1: who he is yet.

2296
02:00:10,480 --> 02:00:20,839
Speaker 17: We just know weise got raw rockm morale like emeralds

2297
02:00:20,920 --> 02:00:21,560
Speaker 17: and morale.

2298
02:00:23,080 --> 02:00:27,240
Speaker 3: L A l A. That's my first meeting in him.

2299
02:00:27,320 --> 02:00:34,920
Speaker 3: Not he goes the weeds like like, don't forget a

2300
02:00:35,040 --> 02:00:39,360
Speaker 3: little dip is the reason why you and I. But

2301
02:00:39,520 --> 02:00:40,760
Speaker 3: the song was already out where.

2302
02:00:40,760 --> 02:00:43,200
Speaker 1: It's like, that's to do that the day and that's

2303
02:00:43,240 --> 02:00:50,160
Speaker 1: the verse that maybe J I can't believe you know

2304
02:00:50,560 --> 02:00:55,120
Speaker 1: I got We just did a b for you right now. Yeah,

2305
02:00:55,880 --> 02:00:57,560
Speaker 1: let me tell you something. You know what we gotta

2306
02:00:57,560 --> 02:01:00,560
Speaker 1: do somewhere we make a beat together, which we never done.

2307
02:01:03,280 --> 02:01:07,760
Speaker 3: We start things that drinks that right now because you know,

2308
02:01:07,960 --> 02:01:10,680
Speaker 3: you know, you know, you don't know if you're not

2309
02:01:10,960 --> 02:01:13,080
Speaker 3: you know, I don't know, I don't know if you

2310
02:01:13,160 --> 02:01:17,440
Speaker 3: know wherever state you are, I'll fly like that far

2311
02:01:17,720 --> 02:01:21,080
Speaker 3: and I would just love you for Lace and Black

2312
02:01:21,200 --> 02:01:22,680
Speaker 3: Poets album black Print.

2313
02:01:22,800 --> 02:01:30,120
Speaker 1: Oh no, no problem, problem body that problem. But this

2314
02:01:30,280 --> 02:01:33,600
Speaker 1: is the reason why you're so much of important producer.

2315
02:01:34,120 --> 02:01:38,200
Speaker 5: You can go and you can work with Carsina, and

2316
02:01:38,280 --> 02:01:40,480
Speaker 5: then you can turn around and you still care.

2317
02:01:40,360 --> 02:01:44,760
Speaker 1: A black music listen. I love music. I love ship listen.

2318
02:01:44,800 --> 02:01:46,520
Speaker 1: I love that I get to consider.

2319
02:01:49,280 --> 02:01:50,480
Speaker 2: That's what it is.

2320
02:01:50,560 --> 02:01:53,400
Speaker 3: I like this.

2321
02:01:53,720 --> 02:01:56,880
Speaker 1: I like messing with all styles of music because I

2322
02:01:57,080 --> 02:01:57,720
Speaker 1: am into.

2323
02:01:57,640 --> 02:02:03,120
Speaker 3: Country, blues, gospel rock on yeah, praier View is the

2324
02:02:03,240 --> 02:02:04,120
Speaker 3: town drinks.

2325
02:02:05,720 --> 02:02:10,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, the DJ screw by the way, DJ Screw, let's

2326
02:02:10,080 --> 02:02:13,920
Speaker 1: talk about but the leans to But even that, that's

2327
02:02:14,040 --> 02:02:16,520
Speaker 1: when it was like now it's an epidemic.

2328
02:02:17,200 --> 02:02:19,960
Speaker 3: It wasn't epidemic then, and it was something that you

2329
02:02:20,080 --> 02:02:23,120
Speaker 3: just did every occasion, like going out to a bar.

2330
02:02:23,040 --> 02:02:25,080
Speaker 1: And having I don't drink every day. I don't you know.

2331
02:02:25,120 --> 02:02:26,040
Speaker 1: I got I got work to do it.

2332
02:02:26,080 --> 02:02:28,120
Speaker 3: I business a handle. I stay focused. From a five

2333
02:02:28,200 --> 02:02:29,360
Speaker 3: year old son, I'm focused.

2334
02:02:29,880 --> 02:02:42,320
Speaker 1: But you're still question they're about to open the car.

2335
02:02:43,960 --> 02:02:44,240
Speaker 3: Finish.

2336
02:02:45,000 --> 02:02:45,840
Speaker 1: So I mean so.

2337
02:02:47,320 --> 02:02:49,680
Speaker 3: A lot of the things again that are just out

2338
02:02:49,720 --> 02:02:53,800
Speaker 3: of control, are just way publicized or promoted on a

2339
02:02:53,880 --> 02:02:54,720
Speaker 3: higher pedestal.

2340
02:02:55,400 --> 02:02:56,800
Speaker 1: I already did all that stuff.

2341
02:02:57,240 --> 02:03:00,840
Speaker 3: It's about living past that and being able to still

2342
02:03:00,920 --> 02:03:04,640
Speaker 3: function on what's the matters that keep you in the

2343
02:03:04,800 --> 02:03:06,000
Speaker 3: longevity bucket.

2344
02:03:06,320 --> 02:03:08,240
Speaker 1: I want to be in the longevity bucket. I don't

2345
02:03:08,240 --> 02:03:09,840
Speaker 1: want to be in the eye. You know you had

2346
02:03:09,880 --> 02:03:13,120
Speaker 1: your time bucket. My bucket. I want to go all

2347
02:03:13,160 --> 02:03:16,320
Speaker 1: the way even again. When I'm gone, it's still hot.

2348
02:03:16,560 --> 02:03:17,720
Speaker 1: Gang starts still hot.

2349
02:03:18,240 --> 02:03:20,840
Speaker 3: I keep gangs start still hot because I care about

2350
02:03:21,320 --> 02:03:23,600
Speaker 3: not just his legacy and our legacy as a.

2351
02:03:23,880 --> 02:03:26,320
Speaker 1: Team, but his son. He has a sixteen year old son.

2352
02:03:26,640 --> 02:03:28,880
Speaker 1: I'm making sure his son's eating. I'm making sure his

2353
02:03:28,960 --> 02:03:36,080
Speaker 1: son's getting everything that his father's have. I wouldn't feel

2354
02:03:36,160 --> 02:03:36,720
Speaker 1: right that.

2355
02:03:37,120 --> 02:03:37,280
Speaker 2: Hell.

2356
02:03:37,920 --> 02:03:40,440
Speaker 1: My model is this. I can sleep at night.

2357
02:03:41,000 --> 02:03:41,600
Speaker 2: That's my mind.

2358
02:03:41,640 --> 02:03:44,840
Speaker 1: That's the most important thing at night. I can sleep

2359
02:03:44,920 --> 02:03:46,440
Speaker 1: at night. A lot of people you can go. You

2360
02:03:46,520 --> 02:03:51,440
Speaker 1: don't understand that like anybody else, But.

2361
02:03:51,560 --> 02:03:54,960
Speaker 3: My nightmares are clear from how I analyzed what I

2362
02:03:55,040 --> 02:03:56,600
Speaker 3: woke up to business.

2363
02:03:57,000 --> 02:03:59,680
Speaker 1: You can sleep, man. My mind is strong.

2364
02:03:59,760 --> 02:03:59,920
Speaker 3: Man.

2365
02:04:00,160 --> 02:04:04,000
Speaker 1: So I'm going to end this podcast, but I can't

2366
02:04:04,040 --> 02:04:07,600
Speaker 1: thank you brothers enough. Thank for having for helping helping me.

2367
02:04:09,560 --> 02:04:13,320
Speaker 5: Both of you both helped me personally because my career

2368
02:04:13,480 --> 02:04:16,720
Speaker 5: couldn't be complete. I could never complete my career without

2369
02:04:16,760 --> 02:04:21,320
Speaker 5: having a beat, rock beat, the premier beat appreciation. Hip

2370
02:04:21,360 --> 02:04:24,080
Speaker 5: hop is what I want to continue to represent.

2371
02:04:24,520 --> 02:04:26,160
Speaker 1: I want to continue to stand by it.

2372
02:04:26,320 --> 02:04:30,000
Speaker 5: I can't believe twenty five million and I hate this

2373
02:04:30,160 --> 02:04:33,320
Speaker 5: guy right here a me brous you knew you had

2374
02:04:33,400 --> 02:04:34,880
Speaker 5: a twenty five million flat?

2375
02:04:35,240 --> 02:04:38,400
Speaker 1: Let me ask. You should have told me on Wednesday. No, No,

2376
02:04:40,160 --> 02:04:42,400
Speaker 1: you just a good friend. You deserve. I want to

2377
02:04:42,440 --> 02:04:44,320
Speaker 1: surprise you at.

2378
02:04:46,200 --> 02:04:46,800
Speaker 11: You don't know that.

2379
02:04:47,080 --> 02:04:50,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love you. Yeah, I'm having a movie, but

2380
02:04:50,680 --> 02:04:51,080
Speaker 1: I love you.

2381
02:04:52,200 --> 02:04:52,640
Speaker 6: I let you.

2382
02:04:53,800 --> 02:04:55,880
Speaker 1: I can't believe just you asked.

2383
02:04:56,160 --> 02:04:59,680
Speaker 3: Yes, everything I do outside of hip hop, when I

2384
02:04:59,800 --> 02:05:02,800
Speaker 3: do hip hop, I keep it hood, keep it hood.

2385
02:05:02,880 --> 02:05:05,880
Speaker 1: Everything else I can do balance, slow songs, pop songs.

2386
02:05:06,560 --> 02:05:07,440
Speaker 1: I like that music too.

2387
02:05:07,560 --> 02:05:11,840
Speaker 3: Yes, hip hop, I keep keep it hood because that's

2388
02:05:11,840 --> 02:05:14,480
Speaker 3: why I like to listen to it when I buy it, drive.

2389
02:05:14,400 --> 02:05:17,320
Speaker 1: To it, or have my radio. If it's either my

2390
02:05:17,440 --> 02:05:20,960
Speaker 1: radio or this. You guys are the bedrock. Please stay

2391
02:05:21,040 --> 02:05:22,320
Speaker 1: let's rock listen.

2392
02:05:22,440 --> 02:05:25,320
Speaker 5: If it wasn't for YouTube, brothers, I wouldn't have a childhood.

2393
02:05:26,080 --> 02:05:28,000
Speaker 1: You brothers, that's well deserved what you got.

2394
02:05:29,000 --> 02:05:30,560
Speaker 2: It's better than you could say.

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Speaker 1: Ain't gonna let's be on wrap. This is a podcast.

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Speaker 1: They should make it platinum though, why do you make it?

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Speaker 1: Go Matt Steps, it's not twenty five five hundred. You

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Speaker 1: know what, You're right, you know what, you know what?

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Speaker 11: He actually right, It should be, should be. I'm just

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Speaker 11: happy to be here right now and listen, give thanks

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Speaker 11: man too.

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Speaker 5: Of the best producers of all times have just now

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Speaker 5: sat down absolutely all drink champs and.

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Speaker 2: The bi up.

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Speaker 1: Cut the check and if you have a one more shot,

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Speaker 1: one ship shot because at the end of the day,

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Speaker 1: and we're gonna say and watching the battle.

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Speaker 5: Because when I seen the battle and when I see

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Speaker 5: that they said, this is the first time, excuse me

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Speaker 5: say the whole thing, don't.

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Speaker 1: My brother, I definitely have a shot. Careful.

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Speaker 5: When they said that this is the first time us battled,

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Speaker 5: no shot.

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Speaker 1: Terrible. I felt terrible.

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Speaker 5: They said that this is the first time the produces

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Speaker 5: first bat And I knew that y'all guys have done this.

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Speaker 5: I knew that just Blazer actually had done it with

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Speaker 5: Alchemists before and so I wanted to. I wanted to

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Speaker 5: actually big you brothers up because I understand what it is.

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Speaker 5: But I also understand that Swiss also knows he's a.

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Speaker 1: Student of the game, because he never said that. He

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Speaker 1: never saw I love you, brothers.

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Speaker 5: If you motherfuckers can't, if your motherfucker's Google don't work,

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02:07:29,480 --> 02:07:33,760
Speaker 5: you need to relax because these are the two of us,

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Speaker 5: the best producers of all fucking time, Pete and Premier

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Speaker 5: of best producers of all

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Speaker 1: Let's take that FI drop