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Speaker 3: I am deeply I'm Debbie Brown and this is the

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Speaker 3: Deeply Well Podcast. Welcome to Deeply Well, a soft place

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Speaker 3: to land on your journey, A podcast for those that

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Speaker 3: are curious, creative, and ready to expand in higher consciousness

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Speaker 3: and self care. This is where we heal, this is

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Speaker 3: where we transcend. Welcome back to the show everyone. I

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Speaker 3: am Debbie Brown.

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Speaker 1: As always, Thank you, thank you, thank you for joining

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Speaker 1: this special little piece of the universe that we've created together.

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Speaker 1: On this episode of Deeply Well, we are diving into

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Speaker 1: one of the most universal and most misunderstood aspects of.

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Speaker 1: feeling truly alive isn't found in another supplement or a

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Speaker 1: our guests today, I will start with doctor Suhas Krishagar.

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Speaker 1: He is one of the most prominent and academically accomplished

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Speaker 1: incredible new book called Awakened Sleep, an Irvetic approach to

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Speaker 1: getting deep rest and unlocking optimal Health, which officially came

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Speaker 1: And this book, you know, it's really focusing on something

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Speaker 1: you've observed that prevent people from truly resting and how

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Speaker 1: do we begin to tend to them?

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Speaker 7: Well, I think this is an excellent discussion because this

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Speaker 7: combines the reality of whatever human body is. It is

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Speaker 7: a perfect tripod of body, mind, and spirit. So when

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Speaker 7: you sleep or when you don't sleep, there's an impact

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Speaker 7: that affects your body. We are talking about weight gain,

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Speaker 7: we are talking about even one night of sleep deprivation

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Speaker 7: can put you into a pre diabetic state, even one

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Speaker 7: night of okay, and so we're talking about type two diabetes, overweight, obcity, dyslipidemia,

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Speaker 7: metabolic syndrome, chronic inflammation, autoimmune condition. Because from a physical perspective,

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Speaker 7: sleep is one of the most potent anti inflammatory activity

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Speaker 7: and immunomodulatory activity one will ever do in their lifetime.

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Speaker 7: Let me people, sleep is one of the most potent

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Speaker 7: anti inflammatory and immunomodulatory activity one will ever do in

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Speaker 7: their lifetime. And so for us not prioritizing that where

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Speaker 7: we know in fact that our nervous system and immune

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Speaker 7: system is more or less one and the same thing.

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Speaker 7: Nowadays we call our immune system a circulating nervous system,

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Speaker 7: so they are eavesdropping on every conversation. So whatever goes

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Speaker 7: on into your nervous system is affecting your immune system,

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Speaker 7: and we are worried about the cascade of the autoimmune

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Speaker 7: conditions that people have nowadays. So body is important, but

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Speaker 7: mind is even more important because your thoughts, feeling, sensations, images,

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Speaker 7: experiences that you have shoved under the carpet of your

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Speaker 7: body all day long needs to be processed, needs to

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Speaker 7: be catalog needs to be eliminated to a certain extent,

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Speaker 7: and some of the good one needs to be cataloged

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Speaker 7: for a good memory and good cognition itself. So there's

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Speaker 7: a lot of mental and emotional work that happens in

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Speaker 7: the night. We like to call from a Vedic perspective,

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Speaker 7: sleep as the goddess. I love your name, Davy, because

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Speaker 7: that's what you call Nitra Devi is the goddess of sleep.

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Speaker 7: That you go back into the womb of creation one

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Speaker 7: more time where your soul is nurtured, you feel rejuvenated,

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Speaker 7: you do detoxification, do the rejuvenation in deep states of sleep.

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Speaker 7: So mind is something which is getting the biggest benefit.

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Speaker 7: And why does the mind get the biggest benefit because

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Speaker 7: you withdraw the senses in the night. You do the

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Speaker 7: sensory withdrawal, which is so difficult to do during the

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Speaker 7: day but happens effortlessly in the night. That's the bathing

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Speaker 7: that the mind needs in the night. And doctor Sheila

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Speaker 7: will talk about it where we do the glymphatic cleansing

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Speaker 7: through our brain. Our brain needs detoxification, which happens in

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Speaker 7: deep sleep. And the last one, And I love the

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Speaker 7: tagline of your show, consciousness meets the complexity of being human.

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Speaker 7: It's phenomenal because we are very complex human being. We

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Speaker 7: bring in a lot of karma and not to be

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Speaker 7: thrown off with this world, a lot of karmic things.

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Speaker 7: The people that we meet, the experience, we have relationship

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Speaker 7: that we cultivate jobs that we do every day is

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Speaker 7: some kind of karmic interaction and that trains that creates

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Speaker 7: our life, that creates a reality. So you need a

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Speaker 7: spiritual escape. You can find that in through some meditation

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Speaker 7: during the day. But twenty minutes of meditation, how far

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Speaker 7: can you go, how easily you can slip in the

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Speaker 7: gap in between the thoughts. But in deep sleep you

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Speaker 7: are able to transcend and meet that feeld because your

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Speaker 7: senses are bedrawn, your mind becomes inert and inactive, and

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Speaker 7: you get a glimpse of your divine reality. So in

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Speaker 7: the deep sleep, the Goddess of sleep brings you the

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Speaker 7: closest possible reality. And interestingly, you use the word death

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Speaker 7: and dying because one of the biggest fear that people

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Speaker 7: have going to sleep. We use a term in medicine

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Speaker 7: colors somniphobia, where people are fearful of going to bed

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Speaker 7: alone and not able to sleep. Not able to sleep,

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Speaker 7: they are fearful of their own thoughts. Because I think

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Speaker 7: when we are tuning into our own radio station, we

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Speaker 7: are very scared, and that is correlated with the darkness

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Speaker 7: and the fear of death together, So illuminating sleep creating

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Speaker 7: luminosity in the sleep, making sleep away from tarmacic to

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Speaker 7: a state of sotwik fere quality of and numerous meditations,

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Speaker 7: numerous techniques, sensory scanning things we have mentioned in the book.

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Speaker 7: So from the science perspective, we only know what are

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Speaker 7: the stages and what happened the electrical activity in the brain.

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Speaker 7: We still don't know why we sleep and where do

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Speaker 7: we go when we sleep? So in vary wisdom, there's

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Speaker 7: so much of description that we have tried to create

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Speaker 7: a perfect blend in this book to create an understanding

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Speaker 7: that not only you can get a good night's sleep,

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Speaker 7: but you can tap into your most important creative potential

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Speaker 7: of your life where you wake up with a heightened

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Speaker 7: state of awareness and start seeing the manifestation of everything,

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Speaker 7: of all the seed that you have planted in your

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Speaker 7: deep sleep.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I know, it's sleeps like again, one of the

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Speaker 6: most powerful practices we can engage in.

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Speaker 5: And it's like so natural. I mean, it should be right.

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Speaker 7: And so.

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Speaker 6: When you were asking about you know what interferes with that?

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Speaker 6: It is like as doctor Suhas was mentioning, it's a

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Speaker 6: lot of it is the mind. You know, our own

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Speaker 6: thoughts are what's interfering with our sleep, and so there

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Speaker 6: needs to be some emotional regulatory work, you know, going

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Speaker 6: back and resolving any unresolved emotions or stories that we're

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Speaker 6: holding on to that are replaying at night. And so

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Speaker 6: the mind and our own thoughts are one of the

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Speaker 6: things that can really interfere with with our sleep. So

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Speaker 6: we also give some journaling practices or some simple things.

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Speaker 6: You know, Sometimes people it can feel a little intimidating, like, oh,

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Speaker 6: I have to sort out all my emotions, but it's really,

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Speaker 6: you know, I'm not going to fall asleep for the light,

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Speaker 6: you know, for the.

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Speaker 5: Next fifty years, literally the next lifetime. But it's really

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Speaker 5: just little things and they accumulate, you know. It's just

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Speaker 5: like like like cleaning.

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Speaker 6: You know, you dust a few things off, and every

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Speaker 6: time you go back, you know, it gets more clear

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Speaker 6: and clear and clear, and then you have this kind

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Speaker 6: of clear, aluminous sleep that doctor Suhaus was talking about.

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Speaker 6: And another whole chapter in the book we talk about

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Speaker 6: is the senses, because as he said, our senses are

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Speaker 6: constantly pulling us outward and in iervy that the senses

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Speaker 6: are the gateways to the mind, and it really is true.

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Speaker 6: So everything that comes into our senses needs to be digested,

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Speaker 6: as we say, and processed. It's information, and it goes

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Speaker 6: to the nervous system. And when the nervous system is

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Speaker 6: overloaded by sensory overload, guess what. We live in a

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Speaker 6: world of sensory overload, don't we. There's low, constant light,

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Speaker 6: constant noise. I mean, you can't go anywhere, even grocery

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Speaker 6: shopping or anything without you know, music playing and just

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Speaker 6: noise all the time. We were talking about that earlier,

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Speaker 6: but just like in every way and even you know

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Speaker 6: what we're looking at and screen time and all of that.

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Speaker 6: So you know, slowly kind of looking at your life

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Speaker 6: and asking, you know, where can I decompress my nervous

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Speaker 6: system a little bit? And this sensory overload that's going on,

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Speaker 6: and all that information actually goes right, Everything that comes

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Speaker 6: into the sensus goes right to the emotional part of

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Speaker 6: the brain. It's called the limbic brain, and that so

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Speaker 6: all of that has to get processed in much the

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Speaker 6: same way our emotions get processed.

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Speaker 5: And so if your.

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Speaker 6: Sensory overloaded and there's a lot of emotional stuff that

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Speaker 6: we're kind of stuffing down that will definitely disrupt our sleep,

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Speaker 6: whether it's coming up in dreams or not allowing us

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Speaker 6: to get into the deep sleep stages that we need

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Speaker 6: to be. Yeah, because a nervous system if and it

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Speaker 6: sometimes this is actually the case, like there's been trauma

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Speaker 6: and our nervous system to protect us has learned to

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Speaker 6: just be on high alert all the time. And so

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Speaker 6: the last thing you want to do is fall into

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Speaker 6: a deep sleep that doesn't feel safe, you know. And

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Speaker 6: so we have to just kind of teach our nervous

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Speaker 6: system through proper sensory input, through emotional work that it

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Speaker 6: is safe to go to sleep.

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Speaker 7: And I think it's not always that it's a huge

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Speaker 7: trauma on your nervous system or a poor childhood experience

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Speaker 7: that you had. It's just the busyness and the pace

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Speaker 7: of life which is making everything disconnected from your bodily function.

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Speaker 7: And we are clinicians and we see these people every day.

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Speaker 7: They because it's ironic for us to write a book

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Speaker 7: about we are biologically programmed to fall asleep and stay

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Speaker 7: a sleep eight nine hours every night, is that right?

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Speaker 7: So we are biologically programmed to be hungry at the

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Speaker 7: right time, to be thirsty at the right time. But

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Speaker 7: people are writing books about when to eat, when to exercise,

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Speaker 7: when to sleep, how to breathe. For God's sake, okay,

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Speaker 7: because these are all signs that we are becoming disconnected

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Speaker 7: from over poor functioning. The pace of life is so

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Speaker 7: maddening that you want to be constantly rushing to something

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Speaker 7: somewhere God knows what. And then these simple urges we

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Speaker 7: call it as vega in Irbia. These are urges. Okay.

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Speaker 7: We don't have to tell you when you should be

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Speaker 7: thirsty or hungry, or sleepy, or you need to cough

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Speaker 7: or sneeze. These are natural urges. These are physiological urges

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Speaker 7: of the body. And the pace of life is what

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Speaker 7: is making it even more disconnected. So if you just

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Speaker 7: click the word sleep on Google or Internet, you will

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Speaker 7: have our nine hundred million searches that will show up.

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Speaker 7: If you go to Apple or Google Store and click

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Speaker 7: for a sleep related app, you have about seven to

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Speaker 7: eight thousand different apps that come up which the weariable

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Speaker 7: has their own challenges at time, because many times it

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Speaker 7: gives people anxiety that tells you that God, you're not sleeping,

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Speaker 7: and your sleep tells your story next day that you're

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Speaker 7: not breathing properly, you're not sleeping properly, so that data

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Speaker 7: is good but can also make you even more anxious

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Speaker 7: at time. Yes, that is fine, true, fine line.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, So how you know speaking to that right,

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Speaker 1: like the fact that there are now like thousands of

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Speaker 1: apps for sleep, which like it's such a double edged sword.

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Speaker 1: I'm like grateful you exist, and like get off the apps,

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Speaker 1: like get off your phone. You know, it's like it's

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Speaker 1: just it's insane. We are in insane times. But you know,

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Speaker 1: considering that, how how did you choose to approach this topic?

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Speaker 1: What was it about sleep where you said, we really

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Speaker 1: need to get all of this information out and we're

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Speaker 1: going to join forces to do it.

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Speaker 7: Uh.

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Speaker 6: You know it started several years ago and we were

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Speaker 6: actually talking to deep Buk about you know, we were

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Speaker 6: at an event and we were just talking and sleep

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Speaker 6: came up and we were, you know, all just chatting

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Speaker 6: about how challenging people are finding sleep because again, it's

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Speaker 6: i think just gotten worse and worse over time.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 5: And then he said, well you should write a book

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Speaker 5: about it. So you know when deep.

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Speaker 1: Buk said something true, deepalk fashion, right, He's like yep,

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Speaker 1: I will, I will drop everything now.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, And he was.

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Speaker 6: So kind to write the forward to the book as well,

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Speaker 6: because you know, obviously these teachings he's been passionate about

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Speaker 6: his whole life as well, so you know, and again

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Speaker 6: as doctor Suis and I have both mean seeing patients

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Speaker 6: for decades and have witnessed this incre in just getting

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Speaker 6: totally disconnected. And you'll see in the book we definitely

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Speaker 6: talk about sleep and specific practices for that, but so

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Speaker 6: much of it comes back to how is your day

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Speaker 6: to day lifestyle because that's what's going to help you

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Speaker 6: cultivate healthy sleep. It's also going to get you, you know,

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Speaker 6: healthier in all the ways you know, nutrition and movement

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Speaker 6: and all of it goes together. So we you know,

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Speaker 6: we do mention that, but you know, we really decided

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Speaker 6: we wanted to give people a perspective of sleep that's

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Speaker 6: you know, how important it is. Then we also wanted

650
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Speaker 6: people to appreciate this basic perspective of the creativity and

651
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:41,840
Speaker 6: the consciousness and all of the different mystical aspects of sleep.

652
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:46,120
Speaker 6: And technology definitely, yes, is there, but we I think

653
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Speaker 6: before we use technology, we want to connect with ourselves.

654
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Speaker 6: So I actually did start wearing something and I didn't

655
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Speaker 6: think I would like it, but I actually.

656
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Speaker 1: Do and I noticed your ordering.

657
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Speaker 5: Yes, yeah, and I didn't think I would. I enjoyed.

658
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Speaker 6: Someone talked me into doing and I thought, oh, okay,

659
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:02,359
Speaker 6: I should play around with the technology because people are

660
00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 6: using it, but I commit to checking in with myself first,

661
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:08,160
Speaker 6: you know, when I wake up, how do I feel?

662
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:10,479
Speaker 6: And then then it's kind of fun to look at data.

663
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:13,360
Speaker 6: And we are a data society, and data has been helpful,

664
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Speaker 6: you know. And one of the other things is it

665
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:20,360
Speaker 6: can give insights over time. It will you know, you

666
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:24,719
Speaker 6: can notice patterns of when I do X y Z, drink.

667
00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:27,040
Speaker 5: Too late, eat too late, exercise too late.

668
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:29,839
Speaker 6: Oh it does actually impact my deep sleep or oh

669
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Speaker 6: I do actually get less rem sleep or whatever it is.

670
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:35,920
Speaker 6: So so it's helpful, but I think we really wanted

671
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:40,440
Speaker 6: to focus on just first and foremost, asking yourself what

672
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:42,920
Speaker 6: you need and checking in with yourself and the signals

673
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:46,600
Speaker 6: your body is sending you, and then you know, and

674
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Speaker 6: then use the data compliment you know, complimentarily.

675
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Speaker 5: I guess.

676
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Speaker 1: Yeah, wow, I am so excited about this book. This

677
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:56,600
Speaker 1: is like I never imagine I'd be someone that was

678
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Speaker 1: passionate about sleep because I used to run from it, like,

679
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:02,520
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, Well, I.

680
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Speaker 5: Think the days of thinking it's just a waste of

681
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Speaker 5: time are over.

682
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Speaker 7: You know.

683
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:10,360
Speaker 5: The science really keeps us from that denial.

684
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Speaker 1: And actually that is I think really what the misconception

685
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:16,640
Speaker 1: is at like a base level for people that it

686
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:20,799
Speaker 1: is like wasted time, that that time is actually not

687
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:23,959
Speaker 1: important in doing all these things right, nothing is going

688
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:24,600
Speaker 1: on here.

689
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Speaker 6: So I mean a lot of the science too, is

690
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 6: like we're realizing sleep is more active than when we're

691
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:31,920
Speaker 6: waking at times, you know, especially reround sleep, and you know,

692
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:34,439
Speaker 6: the brain is more active during dream sleep than it

693
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:37,160
Speaker 6: is even when we're awake, and there's so much like

694
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Speaker 6: memory consolidation and emotional processing even happening during dream states.

695
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Speaker 5: And you know, and.

696
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:46,799
Speaker 6: Then again the amount of physical healing that's going on

697
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Speaker 6: during deep sleep, you know, cell regeneration, repairing of tissues.

698
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:54,400
Speaker 6: I think doctor suhas had mentioned earlier that glymphatic system

699
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:57,200
Speaker 6: of like cleaning out the brain but also the whole

700
00:42:57,239 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 6: body of waste proteins and things that can create a flace.

701
00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:03,839
Speaker 6: And it's such an active process. There's so much going

702
00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:06,759
Speaker 6: on that we don't want to be a way to

703
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:07,440
Speaker 6: interfere with that.

704
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:11,799
Speaker 7: Well, I think there's a much bigger picture they we hear,

705
00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 7: and the bigger picture is is the collective consciousness. We

706
00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:20,560
Speaker 7: live in a sleep deprived culture. Is that right? You

707
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:25,560
Speaker 7: said one in three people do not sleep well at all.

708
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:29,960
Speaker 7: So when you don't sleep well, you have inflammation, and

709
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:32,640
Speaker 7: because of inflammation, you don't get a good night's sleep.

710
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:38,680
Speaker 7: So inflammation leads to hostile tendencies in your mind and heart.

711
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:42,520
Speaker 7: It creates anger and depression at the same time, it

712
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:48,239
Speaker 7: creates impatience. And then we have a country currently where

713
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:52,120
Speaker 7: we are churning consciousness and globally, I would say, and

714
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:55,520
Speaker 7: every time there's a good and bad piece of news

715
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:58,520
Speaker 7: that you're watching right before you go to sleep, God,

716
00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:00,759
Speaker 7: it's either going to make you anger or is going

717
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:04,280
Speaker 7: to make you worry about your future. No matter what happens,

718
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Speaker 7: it does an impact. So last thing, what you watch,

719
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Speaker 7: what you experience right before you sleep, is so impactful

720
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Speaker 7: for the quality of the sleep. So if you're doing

721
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Speaker 7: a self reflective journaling that we mentioned in the book,

722
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:22,680
Speaker 7: if you're doing a sensory scan, if you are recapitulating

723
00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:27,080
Speaker 7: your entire day, if you're doing a gratitude based meditation,

724
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:30,800
Speaker 7: if you're doing a self care ritual, imagine the impact

725
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:34,600
Speaker 7: that you wake up as a healthy, happy individual and

726
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:38,560
Speaker 7: it leads to happy families, leads to healthy nations, and

727
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:44,480
Speaker 7: lead to the piece. It's not a mistake that you

728
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:49,759
Speaker 7: use the word piece instead of sleep because shan shanti,

729
00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 7: which is peace, and ahimsa, which is nonviolent, they are synonyms.

730
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Speaker 7: So the word nonviolence in peace is the same meaning

731
00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:02,640
Speaker 7: shanty and ahimsa is the same. So sleep is definitely

732
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Speaker 7: correlated with nonviolence and peacefulness. And just to give you

733
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Speaker 7: an interesting example, I don't know how have you traveled

734
00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:19,640
Speaker 7: in the Southeast Asia. You go everywhere where Buddhist culture

735
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:26,200
Speaker 7: was so prevalent, and there are huge statues of reclining Buddhas. Fact, yes,

736
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Speaker 7: you're talking about one hundred meters long statues of sleeping

737
00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:37,120
Speaker 7: Buddha sleeping in a state of enlightenment and awakens. That's

738
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Speaker 7: what those statues are is something that you can be

739
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:43,520
Speaker 7: asleep from the maya of the illusion of the life

740
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:48,399
Speaker 7: and still be awake understanding that this doesn't bug you.

741
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:52,280
Speaker 7: You are immune from this. Your thought process, your internal state,

742
00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:57,000
Speaker 7: your interroceptive awareness, should not be affected by the turbulence

743
00:45:57,040 --> 00:45:59,480
Speaker 7: that you see outside. And I think that's the very

744
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:01,839
Speaker 7: premise of this book. Avacancy.

745
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Speaker 4: Wow wow wow, yes, deeply. Well.

746
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Speaker 1: I think we'll end on this note. I would love

747
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Speaker 1: if each of you could share one thing with the audience,

748
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:26,480
Speaker 1: that is soul work, so way to kind of integrate

749
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:31,040
Speaker 1: everything that they've Those listening have been kind of moving

750
00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:33,799
Speaker 1: through and hearing all of this and receiving all of

751
00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:36,760
Speaker 1: this information. And I know for many it is life changing.

752
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:43,120
Speaker 1: This is it. It sounds simple, the word sleep, but

753
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:49,239
Speaker 1: this is profound. This is a profound shift forward in

754
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:53,840
Speaker 1: your life and your healing in your body. And doctor Sewells,

755
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:57,000
Speaker 1: I'll tell you more about this off air. But I

756
00:46:57,040 --> 00:46:58,839
Speaker 1: wrote about you in my book. I don't know if

757
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:02,840
Speaker 1: you've seen it yet, but I talked about publish.

758
00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:04,640
Speaker 5: Yes we do.

759
00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:09,800
Speaker 1: Shout out to Nana, our editor too. I wrote about

760
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:11,799
Speaker 1: you in the book and I thanked you in the

761
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Speaker 1: in the back. But I talked about my experience, my

762
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:20,920
Speaker 1: very first time doing medical astrology with you, and it

763
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:24,080
Speaker 1: was just I mean, and I'm an astrology girly, but

764
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:29,320
Speaker 1: like it was life changing because specifically you were going

765
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:33,120
Speaker 1: over like my physical body, like the things that were

766
00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:37,640
Speaker 1: in my chart that were representing certain afflictions. And you also, yeah,

767
00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:40,040
Speaker 1: you gave me a lot. I share a very funny

768
00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:42,840
Speaker 1: story about my divorce some information you gave me in

769
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Speaker 1: that session in the book. But you know, I think

770
00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:50,600
Speaker 1: back to the back to the matter at hand. I

771
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Speaker 1: would love to ask each of you to share with

772
00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:55,560
Speaker 1: the audience as they're integrating this information and really just

773
00:47:56,560 --> 00:47:59,680
Speaker 1: the endless potential in front of them right now for

774
00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:06,960
Speaker 1: working with their sleep and their health. What is one practice,

775
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:09,200
Speaker 1: one piece of soul work that everyone can take with

776
00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:11,880
Speaker 1: them today to start today. And it could be an

777
00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:15,200
Speaker 1: actual practice, or it could be a quote, a thought starter,

778
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:18,480
Speaker 1: a journalinge prompt, but anything that you think is relevant

779
00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 1: to this conversation about sleep. And I'll start with you,

780
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Speaker 1: doctor Suhas.

781
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Speaker 7: I think we have mentioned this clearly in the book,

782
00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:30,319
Speaker 7: and there's a lot of science to these not one,

783
00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:32,279
Speaker 7: but two simple things that I'm going to tell you.

784
00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:36,960
Speaker 7: One is your daylight exposure to sunlight. The exposure to

785
00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:40,000
Speaker 7: sunlight will literally decide the quality of sleep that you

786
00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:42,880
Speaker 7: get in the night. Wow, how much time to spend

787
00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:47,120
Speaker 7: outdoors and sleep in sunlight that will decide to quality

788
00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:50,840
Speaker 7: of suoslyp. And the second is time restricted feeding, what

789
00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:55,120
Speaker 7: simply means is solar nutrition. So when the sun is

790
00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:57,680
Speaker 7: waking up in the morning, you have a lighter breakfast.

791
00:48:57,960 --> 00:48:59,600
Speaker 7: When the sun is in the middle of the sky

792
00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:03,000
Speaker 7: at zenith, you have the biggest meal in the biggest

793
00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:05,560
Speaker 7: calori meal of the day in the middle of the day.

794
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:07,840
Speaker 7: And when the sun is setting in the evening, you

795
00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:11,800
Speaker 7: make your meal lighter and eat three hours before you sleep.

796
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Speaker 7: So if you adopt these two things, I promise you

797
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:18,880
Speaker 7: fifty percent of all your sleeping problem will go away

798
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:22,080
Speaker 7: and the rest will be taken care by your mindfulness

799
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Speaker 7: based activities.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, doctor Sheila.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think for me personally, and we talk about

802
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:33,680
Speaker 6: it in the book as well as he just said that.

803
00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:36,680
Speaker 6: You know the last the other fifty percent is the mind.

804
00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:40,600
Speaker 6: And so I'll share two. I won't tell the whole story.

805
00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:43,520
Speaker 6: But I'm a Kaffa type, as doctor su has had

806
00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:46,040
Speaker 6: mentioned early on Earth and Water type, So I've never

807
00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:48,560
Speaker 6: had trouble sleep like I am. I head it's a

808
00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:51,960
Speaker 6: pillow and I'm like asleep. The sleep is our superpower

809
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:55,319
Speaker 6: for all the Kafas out there, you know, all of

810
00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:58,640
Speaker 6: the different mind body types have their balconies and basements,

811
00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:01,560
Speaker 6: as we say, but our balcony is superpower of sleep.

812
00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:05,960
Speaker 6: So however, it was kind of, you know, speaking of

813
00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:08,160
Speaker 6: your divorce when I was going through mine as well,

814
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:11,439
Speaker 6: like thoughts, thoughts, thoughts, thoughts, thoughts, and for the first

815
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Speaker 6: time in my life, I couldn't sleep and I was

816
00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:18,040
Speaker 6: so perplexed, and I I was just learning about journaling

817
00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:19,960
Speaker 6: at that time, and I thought, well, let me give

818
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:20,399
Speaker 6: this a try.

819
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Speaker 5: I don't know about this journaling thing. I've never you know,

820
00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:23,440
Speaker 5: I'd never done.

821
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Speaker 1: It, and it's awkward to approach at first.

822
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Speaker 5: It is.

823
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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, I'm like sometimes the biggest skeptic because

824
00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:31,760
Speaker 6: and that's what I would encourage people. If there's anything

825
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:35,000
Speaker 6: you're the most skeptical about, try that because there's some

826
00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:37,879
Speaker 6: there's some reason you are and it could be leading

827
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:39,600
Speaker 6: you toward the number one thing. So that's so I

828
00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:41,799
Speaker 6: just thought, Okay, I'm going to try this journaling thing.

829
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Speaker 6: And it wasn't like the deepest journaling for hours before,

830
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Speaker 6: but it was like literally because I couldn't sleep, I

831
00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:49,760
Speaker 6: just took out a notebook and I wrote on everything

832
00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:51,719
Speaker 6: that was on my mind, like dumping it all out,

833
00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:56,080
Speaker 6: and then a couple of like intentions you know that

834
00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:58,799
Speaker 6: I wanted, you know, to carry through the you know,

835
00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:01,280
Speaker 6: things that were going on, and I closed an open

836
00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:03,960
Speaker 6: and I just zonked out. And I woke up the

837
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:06,120
Speaker 6: next morning and I thought, oh, that was a coincidence.

838
00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:08,400
Speaker 6: I'm so tired because I haven't been sleeping, but that

839
00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:10,600
Speaker 6: night I did the same thing, conked.

840
00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:11,799
Speaker 5: Out and had good sleep, you know.

841
00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:14,680
Speaker 6: And so then that started a journey for me toward

842
00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:20,280
Speaker 6: you know, doing more emotional work and realizing that connection.

843
00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:23,600
Speaker 6: So in addition, you know, to the things doctors to usaid,

844
00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:26,480
Speaker 6: I would say, try try the journalist. It's like literally

845
00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:27,640
Speaker 6: a two minute practice.

846
00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:29,720
Speaker 5: You know. No, you know, it's not like spend twenty

847
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:32,239
Speaker 5: minutes doing this before bed. You know. We put the

848
00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:35,000
Speaker 5: practice in the book and it takes two minutes before bed.

849
00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:36,520
Speaker 5: And I think that.

850
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Speaker 6: Was pretty pretty life changing for me during a really

851
00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:41,279
Speaker 6: challenging time.

852
00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:44,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I want to really like highlight what you're

853
00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:48,160
Speaker 1: expressing in that and that when you're doing that journaling,

854
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:52,000
Speaker 1: you're not also trying to find the solution right right right,

855
00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:55,160
Speaker 1: like you are getting it out so it's out of you,

856
00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:58,480
Speaker 1: so that there is space to sleep. But you're not saying,

857
00:51:58,560 --> 00:52:02,200
Speaker 1: I'm journaling this this down, you know, for the next

858
00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:05,080
Speaker 1: forty five minutes, and I'm going to explore every fiber

859
00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:07,279
Speaker 1: of it and then come up with it. You're like, no,

860
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:11,440
Speaker 1: I'm just emptying what's present in my mind. So there's space.

861
00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:13,920
Speaker 6: Yeah, and then within that space, and this is the

862
00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:16,600
Speaker 6: exact practice we have in the book. You know, you

863
00:52:16,719 --> 00:52:20,200
Speaker 6: dumb or again recapitulate your day. If there's nothing, you know,

864
00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:22,359
Speaker 6: dramatic going on, you can just write about your day

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Speaker 6: and so very simply just write down three things, three

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Speaker 6: And you know, because every night you get to plant

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Speaker 6: oh no, I only have tonight to do this, you know,

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Speaker 6: and then you close with three things you're grateful for.

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Speaker 6: has said that, you know, that's then you close it,

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Speaker 6: That's the last thing that you've planned. You've fertilized your

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Speaker 6: seeds with gratitude, and that's what you're taking into sleep

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Speaker 6: with you instead of all the weeds.

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Speaker 5: All the job.

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Speaker 1: Oh so good, so good. Everyone start there. Know that

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Speaker 1: with yourself and with your body, because it's so foundational

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Speaker 1: to all the other kinds of work that you'll get

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Speaker 1: to do with yourself wherever you're at on your journey.

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Speaker 1: Everything for Doctor Suhas and Doctor Sheila is linked in

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Speaker 1: the notes of this show, So go to their instagram,

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Speaker 1: their website. You have an amazing newsletter out doctor Shila

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Speaker 1: to sign up for that. And thank you both, doctor Suhas,

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Speaker 1: doctor Sheila. I love you both so much. I admire

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Speaker 1: you both so much. Thank you for being on the show.

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Speaker 5: Thank you and love back to you. Thank you for

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Speaker 5: everything you do.

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Speaker 6: And yeah, we really hope people have RESTful nights, enlightened

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Speaker 5: And yeah, thanks for having us.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you, Thank you, doctor Sue Haas, thank.

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Speaker 7: You, Avivish you all the best. I hope you touch

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Speaker 7: a billion lives and create a cusp of collective consciousness

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Speaker 7: that you're shifting and churning the entire humanity.

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Speaker 1: Oh yes, me too. Ah Shay, everyone, we will be

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Speaker 1: back next week. Thank you so much for listening again.

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Speaker 1: And I really hope that everyone just tries to take

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Speaker 1: Just a first step, no matter how slowly it goes,

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