1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:03,880 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Tutor Dixon Podcast in the Clay 2 00:00:04,040 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 1: and Book Podcast Network. Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast. 3 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 1: I'm Tutor Dixon and I'm excited to have you joined 4 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:17,520 Speaker 1: me for this very important episode on China in Michigan. 5 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 1: So many of you have already heard me talking about 6 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 1: what's going on in Michigan. We have two Chinese factories 7 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 1: coming here today. We're going to focus on Goshen Incorporated. 8 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:31,480 Speaker 1: I want to use air quotes for that because that's 9 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:36,839 Speaker 1: supposedly the American entity of Goshen. Goshen High Tech is 10 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:41,199 Speaker 1: the Chinese corporation. So Goshen High Tech is a battery 11 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:44,879 Speaker 1: factory in China. They've created an American entity in the 12 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:48,519 Speaker 1: United States. Still, the CEO is on the board of 13 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:53,240 Speaker 1: Goshen High Tech. He is a Chinese national clear ties 14 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 1: when we have looked through his background to the Chinese 15 00:00:56,720 --> 00:01:00,200 Speaker 1: Communist Party, they have not come out and denounced at 16 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 1: But what we did find on the Goshen Incorporated, So 17 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 1: to be clear, this is the supposed American entity of 18 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:12,319 Speaker 1: Goshen on their website. Their by laws clearly state that 19 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:17,760 Speaker 1: Goshen has to have is mandated to have allegiance to 20 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 1: the Chinese Communist Party that they have to have an 21 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 1: organization on site that infiltrates the company goes through the 22 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 1: grassroots and is reliant or believes in the Chinese Communist Party. 23 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 1: So obviously we find that to be incredibly dangerous here 24 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:37,480 Speaker 1: in the United States, in the central part of the 25 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:40,840 Speaker 1: United States, right here in Michigan, having a Chinese corporation. 26 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 1: So there's a lot of questions about this. First of all, 27 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 1: what are they actually producing there? Are there dangerous chemicals there? 28 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 1: What is the point of having this? It really in 29 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 1: the middle of nowhere? Because when we've looked at these 30 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 1: battery plants, generally they're having they're building battery plants right 31 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 1: next to manufacturing plants where they're actually going to manufacture 32 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 1: the vehicle, because the battery is the same size as 33 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 1: the vehicle. But this is going to be states away, 34 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 1: because we're talking about the Volkswagen plant, which I believe 35 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 1: is in Kentucky. So if you are going to have 36 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:16,839 Speaker 1: a factory this far away, what are you actually building there? 37 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 1: And why why so close to Grailing where we are 38 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:25,920 Speaker 1: training Taiwanese to fight against China in case China invades. 39 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:29,079 Speaker 1: But also, what does this mean for the local community, 40 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:32,080 Speaker 1: because it was sold to the local community as this 41 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 1: is a lot of jobs. These are great, high paying 42 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 1: jobs coming to your area. And then all of a 43 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 1: sudden it starts to leak out that they've had discussions 44 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 1: with the local university about bringing two hundred and fifty 45 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 1: to three hundred Chinese nationals to Michigan and housing them 46 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:50,080 Speaker 1: at the university. Now you've got the university president saying 47 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 1: I wasn't involved in those conversations, but other people coming 48 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 1: forward and saying, well, I was involved in those conversations, 49 00:02:56,600 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 1: and that was the conversation. So we're saying, what is 50 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:03,799 Speaker 1: really going on with Goshen coming to Michigan and not 51 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 1: only coming to Michigan, but we're paying for them to 52 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 1: come to Michigan. So people in Michigan are paying because 53 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 1: we are going to hand them seven hundred and fifteen 54 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:17,800 Speaker 1: million taxpayer dollars. This is a company that in the 55 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 1: last several years has always posted between six and eight 56 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 1: billion dollars in profit. This is not revenue. This is 57 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 1: profit that they're posting. Even in twenty twenty when everybody 58 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 1: else is barely making it, they're posting billions of dollars 59 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 1: in profit, and yet we're going to give them seven 60 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 1: hundred and fifteen million dollars from our pockets to come 61 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 1: here and bless us with jobs that are going to 62 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 1: be for Chinese nationals. So I thought I would bring 63 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 1: in some of the community members because I've been hit 64 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 1: on this. Community members actually brought this to us, so 65 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 1: we've been reporting on it. But I've been hit because 66 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 1: people said, oh, this is your personal opinion. The community 67 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 1: wants this. So we figured, well, we'll let you hear 68 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 1: from some community members of Kathy Fleming here with us. 69 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 1: She is a realtor but also the Republican vice chair 70 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 1: of District two. We have Lorie Brock with us. She 71 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 1: owns a horse farm in the area, so she's very 72 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 1: interested in that key question of what exactly will be 73 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:19,840 Speaker 1: manufactured at this factory. And Lee Johnson owns a large 74 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:23,599 Speaker 1: auto repair shop in the area, and Lee is concerned 75 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:27,280 Speaker 1: about if this plant does come, how many of my 76 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:30,120 Speaker 1: own employees are going to go, because the reality in 77 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 1: Michigan is we don't even have enough workers. I want 78 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:37,159 Speaker 1: to start with Kathy. Kathy, you are very interesting to 79 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 1: me because I think you are like many people who 80 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 1: are starting to speak out. This really hasn't been an 81 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:44,360 Speaker 1: area that you've been involved in. You haven't been an 82 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 1: activist your whole life. You are just getting involved in politics, 83 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 1: and so I would say, this is my question is 84 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 1: is this really politics? Or is this you coming out 85 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 1: as a local realtor saying what does this do to 86 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:01,360 Speaker 1: our community? This is me coming out as a mom 87 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 1: and grandma saying what is this doing to my community 88 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 1: where my family has lived for a hundred years. This 89 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 1: is a big deal to me. I feel like the 90 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 1: hazard the CCP connection. And I'm listening to my Green 91 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 1: township friends, which they're five miles I live in Richmond Townships, 92 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:27,480 Speaker 1: so I'm five miles from Green. But I know these people, 93 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:31,799 Speaker 1: veterans and clients, and they're like, nobody did a survey, 94 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:35,160 Speaker 1: Nobody asked me. We're just hereing about this like yesterday, 95 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:39,359 Speaker 1: and we dude, or we literally we were listening to 96 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 1: big rapids township meetings and the questions and how they 97 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:45,600 Speaker 1: were demonized if they asked a question. Then all of 98 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:49,160 Speaker 1: a sudden, it went to greener pastures, as I call it, 99 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 1: where everybody was like supposedly okay with it, and that's 100 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 1: just not true. Well, I think that's interesting because you 101 00:05:56,320 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 1: said you asked the guy said, nobody gave me a survey. 102 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:01,719 Speaker 1: Because now they're coming out and they're saying, hey, the 103 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 1: whole community wants us. We've got like ninety eight percent 104 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 1: of the community that says yes to this, and we're 105 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:10,039 Speaker 1: not hearing that. In fact, the local meetings would say 106 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 1: that's not the case. People are speaking out against this, 107 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 1: even initially when this first started. I remember months ago 108 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:20,159 Speaker 1: when this first came out, there was some question from 109 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:23,039 Speaker 1: the local community, do we even have the people here 110 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 1: to fill these jobs? Who's going to come into this 111 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:28,800 Speaker 1: area because we're looking for employees. It was actually in 112 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:30,840 Speaker 1: the number one thing I heard on the campaign trail 113 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:34,479 Speaker 1: was people from business owners. We love the idea of 114 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 1: economic development. We don't even have the people to work 115 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:40,600 Speaker 1: in our shops, so we're concerned about bringing new businesses here. 116 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:42,840 Speaker 1: And now that's not to say that we shouldn't. I 117 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 1: believe in growing the economy in the state of Mission 118 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 1: getting people to move here, but we're talking about their 119 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:53,679 Speaker 1: talking about bringing in Chinese nationals to work at this company, 120 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 1: not Americans. So you may have Americans working at the factory, 121 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:00,800 Speaker 1: but those high level, high pay jobs, those are going 122 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 1: to be filled by Chinese nationals who they are going 123 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 1: to bring in to run this company. And again you're 124 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 1: talking about we don't even know what the company is 125 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:12,680 Speaker 1: going to be making. I think it's also important to 126 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 1: point out here that this was all done in secret. 127 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 1: The entire deal was done in secret. So when you 128 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 1: have people saying the community welcomes it, the community didn't 129 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 1: even know. We didn't know what the agreement was. We 130 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 1: were every all of our legislators signed NDA's. That's how 131 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 1: secret this is. Lorie. Let's go to you when you 132 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 1: hear about that. Why do you think a radio newscasts 133 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 1: so like a question and the answer, And to stay 134 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 1: with Goshen and with Jim Champan, who's a supervisor. He 135 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 1: said lately that they had approval and reaccounship. I said, 136 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 1: I live in now, my family was asked. And then 137 00:07:56,920 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 1: when it came out, because I can't question that because 138 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 1: he was very visa he finally admitted that he talked 139 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 1: to somebody at McDonald's and he had two emails. All 140 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 1: in all, he talked to ten people, and we had 141 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 1: but thirty two hundred people in Greenhownship and that's where 142 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 1: he got his and he brought to the or the 143 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 1: Appropriations Committee and said that he had ninety nine percent meeting. 144 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 1: Everybody showed up in support. We were all there in protests. 145 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 1: There are four hundred and twenty people that found out 146 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 1: at the last minute about this meeting. We all showed 147 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 1: up in protests, and he tried to turn it against it, 148 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:39,320 Speaker 1: saying that we were there for we were kept in 149 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:42,720 Speaker 1: the dark, absolutely kept in the dark about this whole 150 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:47,960 Speaker 1: entire thing. And he wouldn't answer the questions. They the 151 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 1: North American, the International, and they still tried to say 152 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 1: that it wasn't a communist face. It says that in 153 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 1: the first character the lines that we have been told. 154 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 1: We watched as Paris and they really shut the under 155 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 1: two down and now are open meeting that we have 156 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 1: for April fifth. They shot at down. They said that 157 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:13,359 Speaker 1: they're um, they're scared of you know purists, you know activities, 158 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 1: and they're that way. They're not going to let the 159 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 1: community involved in rules, you know, and they're they're trying 160 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 1: to do us just keep us quiet and not keep 161 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:24,720 Speaker 1: us in the dark, so they don't know what they're doing. 162 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 1: Yet they admitted that they're going to start um bulldozing 163 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:32,560 Speaker 1: by July first. I think that's important for people to 164 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:36,720 Speaker 1: understand they're saying that because we've spoken about this publicly, 165 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 1: and we have spoken about it publicly, We've we've published 166 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 1: the by laws, people can see exactly what they're saying. 167 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 1: I mean, this is essentially these are the rules of 168 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 1: the company, and they're they're saying, oh, those are the 169 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 1: rules for the Chinese company. Well, wait a minute, you're 170 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:53,679 Speaker 1: the guy on the board of the Chinese company, is 171 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:57,400 Speaker 1: the CEO of this American company. So you're saying that 172 00:09:57,440 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 1: you're really that different suddenly in America. You're not going 173 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:03,559 Speaker 1: to be loyal to the Communist Party, which I think 174 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 1: people really need to understand what that means. We're going 175 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 1: to get into that a little bit later in the podcast, 176 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:10,560 Speaker 1: exactly what it means to be a part of the 177 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:14,319 Speaker 1: Chinese Communist Party, because these aren't just words, they're serious 178 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:16,960 Speaker 1: and it's meaningful. What's going on with China right now. 179 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 1: This is a time when we see China teaming up 180 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:23,080 Speaker 1: with Russia, when we see President g going across the 181 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:26,320 Speaker 1: globe saying that he is the guy that's going to 182 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 1: broker peace. This is a very scary time because the 183 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:31,559 Speaker 1: guy who comes out and says they're going to create 184 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:35,000 Speaker 1: world peace tends to also be the person who wants 185 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:38,080 Speaker 1: world domination. And that's what we know of President g 186 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 1: This is not an eight year plan like we have 187 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:43,120 Speaker 1: in the United States. This has been a hundred year 188 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 1: plan on the part of China to get to the US, 189 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 1: and they're getting there. So these concerns are not unfounded. 190 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 1: It's definitely something we need to be worried about. We 191 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 1: need to be cautious about allowing the Chinese to come 192 00:10:56,160 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 1: on our land and buy property, which I will remind 193 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:02,440 Speaker 1: our audience, you can't do that in China. You can't 194 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:05,439 Speaker 1: go to China and buy a piece of property as 195 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 1: an American. That's just not allowed. So why would why 196 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:09,840 Speaker 1: would we say, but we're going to be friendly and 197 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:11,960 Speaker 1: allow you to do it here. Leah. I want to 198 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 1: go to you because I know you're concerned about jobs. 199 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:17,560 Speaker 1: That's something I brought up. We have a concern across 200 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:21,840 Speaker 1: the entire state in Michigan. But you're seeing this, they're saying, gosh, 201 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 1: it could be anywhere from fifteen hundred to twenty eight 202 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 1: hundred jobs. How did they even fill those jobs? And 203 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 1: where did those people come from? I can tell you 204 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:31,600 Speaker 1: exactly where they come from. They're going to come from 205 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 1: local communities. They're going to come from people very close 206 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 1: and then they're going to be coming from them as 207 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 1: far as Grand Rapids and Cadillac Traverse City. They're going 208 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:43,320 Speaker 1: to be coming from all over Michigan. But I would 209 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:47,840 Speaker 1: say that a large portion of those, probably forty percent 210 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 1: of those, are going to come from right here. And 211 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:55,080 Speaker 1: the biggest problem is is that, you know, for people 212 00:11:55,120 --> 00:12:00,920 Speaker 1: like me who deal with deal with employees that have 213 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:07,080 Speaker 1: an incredible ability to be trainable and they're very intelligent 214 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 1: and have the skill set necessary to do the things 215 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:15,080 Speaker 1: that they're asking us to do with that type of business. 216 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 1: That's my employees. Pretty much everybody in my building has 217 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:25,800 Speaker 1: that type of talent and and they're right around the corner. 218 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:28,400 Speaker 1: So I mean, we're not talking like, oh, well, you've 219 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 1: got to drive an additional thirty miles. This is literally 220 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:35,640 Speaker 1: a mile away from my shop. And you know, I 221 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 1: get very concerned with spending seventeen years developing an organization 222 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:48,959 Speaker 1: that I can finally afford to pay full medical and 223 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:52,560 Speaker 1: long term and short term disability and two weeks vacation 224 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:57,840 Speaker 1: and all those, all these perks, that is very difficult 225 00:12:57,880 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 1: to accomplish as a small time person who started all 226 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:04,200 Speaker 1: by myself, answering the phones and working on all the 227 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:08,679 Speaker 1: cars and doing everything and working some days literally twenty 228 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 1: hours a day to accomplish that dream of being able 229 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 1: to serve my community. That's exactly why I got into 230 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 1: this business, because I was sick of working for people 231 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 1: who didn't care about the community. They just wanted the dollar, 232 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:27,960 Speaker 1: and I wanted to serve the community. And you know, 233 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:32,120 Speaker 1: I see this as a very very dangerous thing. The 234 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:37,280 Speaker 1: only people that are gonna actually financially benefit from this 235 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:41,080 Speaker 1: type of corporation coming in are the people sitting right 236 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 1: here talking. I can benefit from a big corporation coming in, 237 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:48,679 Speaker 1: you know why, because I own a home and the 238 00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 1: local inflation around here will be astronomical, but there won't 239 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 1: be any homes for sale, or you'll have those people 240 00:13:57,800 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 1: who decide, you know what, maybe it's a good time 241 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:03,240 Speaker 1: to move to Florida, and they'll sell their home at 242 00:14:03,280 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 1: an astronomical price, move out. But guess what population didn't 243 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 1: change now, did it. I think you make a really 244 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:13,600 Speaker 1: good point because the housing problem that we have in Michigan, 245 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 1: and that's included in Green Township in Big Rapids, there 246 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 1: is a housing crisis, and so where are all these 247 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:23,840 Speaker 1: people going to live? Which is why everybody has said 248 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 1: that the story of these folks coming and being housed 249 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 1: at the at Ferris State University, that was the plan. 250 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:34,400 Speaker 1: Now you've got the president coming out and you know, 251 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 1: you know that we're a partner, but I never personally 252 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:40,280 Speaker 1: agreed to that. Well, what does it mean to be 253 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:43,080 Speaker 1: a partner? What does it mean when the local university 254 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 1: says they're partnered with the Chinese corporation? I think that 255 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 1: we deserve to know that, especially when our taxpayer dollars 256 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:53,920 Speaker 1: are funding both of those organizations. I want to ask you, Lee, 257 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 1: because this is obviously your industry. Alpena News just came 258 00:14:57,960 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 1: out with an article the pros and cons of electric vehicles. 259 00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:05,200 Speaker 1: So let's just dissect that for a second, because we've 260 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 1: got a guy quoted in there saying, yeah, I've got 261 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:12,520 Speaker 1: an electric truck and I could get in freezing temperatures 262 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:15,400 Speaker 1: in Michigan from Alpina Tisha Boygan and I noticed somebody 263 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:19,200 Speaker 1: comments on the article and goes that's seventy nine miles. 264 00:15:19,280 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 1: I mean, what is the reality of electric vehicles? Can 265 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 1: we really honestly live with an electric vehicle lifestyle? Is 266 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:32,520 Speaker 1: that feasible anywhere? But especially in Michigan, because I think 267 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:35,320 Speaker 1: it's key that he said in freezing temperatures. We spend 268 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 1: a lot of time in freezing temperatures, and batteries die 269 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 1: in freezes how they do. So electric vehicles are interesting. 270 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 1: I think they're really cool. I don't don't get me wrong. 271 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:53,400 Speaker 1: The battery is the absolute worst part of an electric vehicle, Okay, 272 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 1: But the biggest mistake that people make is that we 273 00:15:57,760 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 1: produce in Michigan. I'll just speak for Michigan because I'm 274 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 1: not going to speak for the rest of the country. 275 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:06,760 Speaker 1: In Michigan, we produce fifty nine percent of our electricity 276 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 1: using coal and natural gas. So is that an electric 277 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 1: vehicle or is it just a fossil fuel vehicle that's 278 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:19,040 Speaker 1: using a different form of energy storage. It's just an 279 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 1: energy storage thing, Okay. We're talking about an electric motor 280 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 1: with a battery that stores energy. Energy cannot be destroyed 281 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 1: nor created, right, so that energy has to be transformed, 282 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:35,360 Speaker 1: if you will, into a different source of energy, and 283 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:41,720 Speaker 1: it may be slightly more efficient, but right now with yeah, 284 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 1: for instance, the heat, when you don't have heat for 285 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:50,160 Speaker 1: those lithium batteries, they don't produce energy, so they actually 286 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:53,920 Speaker 1: have heaters built within the battery itself, so the energy 287 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:56,520 Speaker 1: from the battery is heating the battery to keep it 288 00:16:56,560 --> 00:16:58,800 Speaker 1: warm enough to be able to produce the energy needed 289 00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:02,680 Speaker 1: to be able to create horse hour. So it's just 290 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 1: not quite And think about what you're saying. This is 291 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 1: in a state where we just had power outages, or 292 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:12,920 Speaker 1: we had houses out of power for over a week 293 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:15,639 Speaker 1: in winter. I mean, so what you're you're not going 294 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:17,679 Speaker 1: to be able to drive any place either. This is 295 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:20,199 Speaker 1: it's just so silly when we think about it, and 296 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:23,080 Speaker 1: I've even talked, Sorry, I could have came to the 297 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 1: table with a little bit more information, but the amount 298 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:32,800 Speaker 1: of energy that's stored in a gallon of gasoline is incredible. Okay. 299 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:37,199 Speaker 1: One drop of gasoline atomized properly, is as powerful as 300 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:41,480 Speaker 1: a stick of dynamite. One drop of gasoline. Okay, So 301 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:44,359 Speaker 1: if we look at it like that and we go, 302 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:48,359 Speaker 1: how can we take the grid that we currently have 303 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:52,879 Speaker 1: and see ourselves pumping that kind of energy into every household. 304 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:56,320 Speaker 1: That's like turning a welder on or turning your electric 305 00:17:56,760 --> 00:18:00,560 Speaker 1: three electric stoves on in your house, in every house 306 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:03,640 Speaker 1: in Michigan and saying the grid's going to handle it, 307 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:06,679 Speaker 1: or you know, Consumers Energy is going to handle it 308 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:09,879 Speaker 1: one of them, right, And we're shutting down power plants 309 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:11,840 Speaker 1: at the same time as we're saying, we're actually getting 310 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:15,080 Speaker 1: rid of goal. And then the question is how environmentally 311 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 1: friendly are these batteries. Even they're saying, well, we'll actually 312 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:21,359 Speaker 1: run out of the elements to make the batteries too. 313 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:23,680 Speaker 1: There's really I mean, this is a very short term plan. 314 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:26,919 Speaker 1: There is no permanent plan for this. Yeah, even when 315 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:31,000 Speaker 1: you talk to the automotive companies, I've said to them, well, 316 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 1: how do you know this is going to work? How 317 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 1: do you know people are going to buy this? Because 318 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:37,600 Speaker 1: right now we're in an economic disaster and you're asking 319 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:39,719 Speaker 1: people to go out and spend money on a vehicle 320 00:18:39,880 --> 00:18:42,440 Speaker 1: that is two or three times the cost of a 321 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:44,359 Speaker 1: regular vehicle. So they're going to have to buy a 322 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:47,440 Speaker 1: new vehicle to begin with and spend all of this money. 323 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:49,560 Speaker 1: And they're like, yeah, well, we don't know, you know, 324 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 1: we don't know that they're going to do that, but 325 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:53,879 Speaker 1: it's mandated now, the government's mandating it. What have you 326 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:57,080 Speaker 1: ever heard an entire industry say they're changing their whole 327 00:18:57,080 --> 00:19:00,160 Speaker 1: product line to a product they don't believe it's something 328 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:02,520 Speaker 1: people are going to buy, but they're doing it because 329 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:05,000 Speaker 1: they're being mandated to do it. I just think the 330 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:08,080 Speaker 1: whole thing is totally bananas. But that's what we're dealing 331 00:19:08,080 --> 00:19:10,680 Speaker 1: with today when we're dealing with the climate cult. I 332 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:13,360 Speaker 1: don't want to take up too much your time, but 333 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:16,240 Speaker 1: I will say this. I believe in God. I believe 334 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:20,680 Speaker 1: in the Bible. In Genesis seven eleven, it states that 335 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:24,760 Speaker 1: God came down and he looked at the people that 336 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 1: were standing there building the Tower of Babble, and he said, 337 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:30,639 Speaker 1: he looked and he talked to himself, the Trinity, and 338 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:34,719 Speaker 1: he said, if we don't stop them, they will be 339 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:37,920 Speaker 1: capable of anything they put their minds to. And when 340 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 1: you look at the world today, we do not. And oh, 341 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:43,960 Speaker 1: by the way, that's when he changed the languages. He 342 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 1: confused the people. He slowed them down. Today we don't 343 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 1: have a translation issue. I can talk to somebody by 344 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:55,480 Speaker 1: email in Japan that only speaks to Japanese, I can 345 00:19:55,600 --> 00:20:00,439 Speaker 1: speak through Google Translate. I can. The translation barrier is gone. 346 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:04,680 Speaker 1: That's why you see us moving in such an incredible 347 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:12,719 Speaker 1: pace towards at a disastrous end. Okay. And so what's 348 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:17,399 Speaker 1: interesting is is that I just I don't want to 349 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:20,520 Speaker 1: be a part of it. Okay, I don't want to. 350 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:24,399 Speaker 1: I know what's going to happen, because they're going to 351 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 1: force it to happen. My biggest problem is is that 352 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:32,120 Speaker 1: in a small community like this, they don't put into 353 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:35,920 Speaker 1: an idea what kind of systems are going to be 354 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 1: able to hear our our system is going to be 355 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:41,680 Speaker 1: able to handle that kind of influx. I would say no. 356 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:45,119 Speaker 1: If they went to Grand Rapids where the rail was 357 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:48,720 Speaker 1: actually next to them, where they could actually rail the 358 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:51,119 Speaker 1: stuff in, it does make sense to use a train. 359 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:55,440 Speaker 1: But the problem is they said right in their documentation, 360 00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:59,439 Speaker 1: we're coming to Big Rapids because of the rail location, 361 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:03,400 Speaker 1: and you're like, it's forty miles away, right, I mean 362 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:06,880 Speaker 1: you're gonna have to truck stuff. Anyways, there's a lot 363 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 1: of things about their their reasoning for coming here that 364 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:13,359 Speaker 1: doesn't make a lot of sense. I think they're coming 365 00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:16,840 Speaker 1: to take advantage of the disadvantage. And I don't really 366 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:22,680 Speaker 1: I just I mean, they don't really think that far ahead. 367 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:25,320 Speaker 1: They're just like, we're gonna come just like you said 368 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:28,120 Speaker 1: with the electric vehicles, Well it's a short term plan, 369 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:30,639 Speaker 1: but we're just going to bang our way through it. 370 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:32,920 Speaker 1: You know, we're just going to get to the other side, 371 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:36,160 Speaker 1: and we'll come up with new technology and we'll and 372 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 1: we'll make a better battery. And I think that there's 373 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:41,720 Speaker 1: some truth to that, but I think that it's very 374 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:46,040 Speaker 1: painful along the way, especially for small communities like ours. 375 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:49,280 Speaker 1: And I just don't think and I really believe that's it. 376 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 1: This is the only time you're going to see companies 377 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:56,800 Speaker 1: this size change their entire product line without vetting it 378 00:21:56,800 --> 00:22:00,040 Speaker 1: out with consumers and at without saying, yes, capitalism and 379 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:03,640 Speaker 1: is driving this, No mandates are driving this. And so 380 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:08,880 Speaker 1: far out in Michigan, you've got millions of combustion engines, 381 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 1: and you've got tens of thousands of electric vehicles, like 382 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:15,480 Speaker 1: fifteen thousand electric vehicles right now. So this is a 383 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:17,719 Speaker 1: big leap to say that the entire country is going 384 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:19,879 Speaker 1: to change over to this. And you're right about the grid. 385 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:22,920 Speaker 1: We're just not talking about reality here. I think that's 386 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:25,480 Speaker 1: the frustration. But when you talk about when you say 387 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:27,359 Speaker 1: I don't want to be a part of it, that's 388 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 1: the thing that I think people are not understanding when 389 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:32,840 Speaker 1: we talk about what's happening with Goshen. It's not me. 390 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:34,959 Speaker 1: I'm not personally saying this, so people will say, oh, 391 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:38,400 Speaker 1: this is a xenophobic thing. No, this is an American 392 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:42,280 Speaker 1: protecting America thing. And it's not me alone. It's the 393 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:45,280 Speaker 1: community that is saying we don't want this. We want 394 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:49,680 Speaker 1: American companies or America aligned companies, not our adversaries coming 395 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 1: in and buying land inside of our city, inside of 396 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:57,000 Speaker 1: our communities, taking over our country. And it's very dangerous 397 00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:58,960 Speaker 1: and I'm so glad that you all came on today 398 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:01,560 Speaker 1: to talk about this. It's important. We're probably going to 399 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 1: talk about it more. We will probably ask you to 400 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:07,600 Speaker 1: come back at some point too. Kathy Fleming, Lorie Brock, 401 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:10,800 Speaker 1: Lee Johnson, thank you so much for coming on the 402 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:14,280 Speaker 1: podcast today. We're going to talk to Gordon Chang as well. 403 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:16,439 Speaker 1: We want to make sure that we talk about the 404 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:20,200 Speaker 1: dangers of China, so stick around. We're going to continue 405 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 1: this conversation on China. Get a little bit deeper into 406 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:26,639 Speaker 1: the dangers of the CCP, exactly where China is today, 407 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:32,159 Speaker 1: the military force that they have, and what globalization really means. 408 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:34,879 Speaker 1: That you're not hearing from the Democrats in office right 409 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:38,440 Speaker 1: now and quite frankly some of the Republicans, because this 410 00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:41,680 Speaker 1: is a bipartisan effort to bring Goshen to Michigan, and 411 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:44,280 Speaker 1: I say shame on everyone who is keeping the truth 412 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:50,760 Speaker 1: from the people of the state. Now we welcome Gordon Chang, 413 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:53,760 Speaker 1: the author of The Coming Collapse of China and the 414 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:58,760 Speaker 1: Great US China Tech War, and also a Gatestone Institute 415 00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:02,520 Speaker 1: Senior fellow. Gordon Chank, thank you so much for coming 416 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:06,240 Speaker 1: on the podcast. We have been talking about what's going 417 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:10,080 Speaker 1: on in Michigan with these Chinese corporations coming in. We 418 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:14,720 Speaker 1: have two. Our conversation today has been mostly centered around Goshen. 419 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 1: I don't know if you're familiar with this situation, but 420 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:20,400 Speaker 1: we've now seen the company buy laws, and these are 421 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:24,240 Speaker 1: the buy laws on the American website in English that 422 00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:28,080 Speaker 1: say there must be an allegiance, a mandated allegiance to 423 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:31,240 Speaker 1: the Chinese Communist Party. And so we have a lot 424 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:34,240 Speaker 1: of people saying, gosh, if you fight this, it's xenophobic, 425 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:38,680 Speaker 1: it's not globalist. This is just nasty. But we want 426 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:42,159 Speaker 1: you to explain what the true dangers of aligning with 427 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:47,800 Speaker 1: the CCPR. Every entity, every individual in China always a 428 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:51,600 Speaker 1: duty of absolute obedience to the Communist Party. That's the 429 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:56,240 Speaker 1: Communist Party's top down system. In addition to that, China's 430 00:24:56,280 --> 00:25:00,440 Speaker 1: twenty seventeen National Intelligence Law, Articles seven and four team 431 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:06,359 Speaker 1: require every Chinese national and every Chinese and every Chinese 432 00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:10,520 Speaker 1: entity to commit acts of espionage if the regime demands. 433 00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 1: So the risk is, this is a risk when you 434 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 1: have a Chinese company in your state. And it doesn't 435 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:21,480 Speaker 1: matter what this company is doing, it is, by its 436 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 1: very nature, because of where it comes from, it is 437 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 1: a threat to American security. So we've had a lot 438 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:32,800 Speaker 1: of people say that this is actually going to be 439 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:36,200 Speaker 1: an American company, But just what you said right there, 440 00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:39,520 Speaker 1: they're talking about, well, initially it was two hundred and 441 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:43,480 Speaker 1: fifty to three hundred Chinese nationals coming. Now they're saying, well, 442 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:47,520 Speaker 1: we think it might be between twenty and fifty Chinese nationals. 443 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:49,879 Speaker 1: This is just to start up the company. They have 444 00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:52,080 Speaker 1: to be here to help start up the company. But 445 00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 1: why do this I mean, why are we also playing 446 00:25:56,400 --> 00:26:00,320 Speaker 1: into this climate alarmism that we have to have all 447 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:02,880 Speaker 1: these electric batteries, they have to come to the United States. 448 00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:05,360 Speaker 1: It almost seems like it's a big plan to get 449 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:08,040 Speaker 1: China in here on our land. Yes, I mean, the 450 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:12,080 Speaker 1: US had energy security during the Trump era. We were 451 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:16,240 Speaker 1: the number one producer of hydrocarpons, both gas and oil, 452 00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:20,200 Speaker 1: and the Trump national security policy was actually to use 453 00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:25,480 Speaker 1: energy to further American aims abroad. If you believe that 454 00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:29,560 Speaker 1: we have to have an electric future, and that's a 455 00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:34,320 Speaker 1: really complicated discussion, but that means that we've become dependent 456 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:39,160 Speaker 1: on China because China has the rare earths, minerals, has 457 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:41,600 Speaker 1: the solar panels, all the rest of it, and that 458 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:44,879 Speaker 1: mortgages our future to a regime which has declared a 459 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:48,639 Speaker 1: quote unquote people's war on America. You know, Tutor, one 460 00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:52,080 Speaker 1: of the things that Americans don't understand is that China's 461 00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:55,760 Speaker 1: Communist Party views the US as an existential threat. And 462 00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 1: it's not because of anything that we say or do, 463 00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:01,159 Speaker 1: but it's because of who we are. Insecure regime in 464 00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:05,919 Speaker 1: China believes that the inspirational impact of American values and 465 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:10,720 Speaker 1: America's form of governance. It is absolutely that's something that 466 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:13,679 Speaker 1: Communist Party cannot abide. I think there was once a 467 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:17,400 Speaker 1: time when people thought that China couldn't hold this kind 468 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:20,800 Speaker 1: of power, that China would eventually fail, because you know, 469 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:24,000 Speaker 1: we saw Japan takeover all of the products as they 470 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:27,280 Speaker 1: started making a lot of our manufacturing goods, and then 471 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:29,520 Speaker 1: that moved and that moved to China. But how long 472 00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:32,240 Speaker 1: I think the question was how long can you really 473 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:37,320 Speaker 1: essentially keep people enslaved doing work, because eventually you become powerful, 474 00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:41,200 Speaker 1: you amass money. These corporations want some privacy and that 475 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:43,840 Speaker 1: goes to the people. But China has done a good job, 476 00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:46,080 Speaker 1: I guess, if you want to say it, that way 477 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:48,840 Speaker 1: of keeping people enslaved to have to work, and so 478 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:52,760 Speaker 1: instead of the regime falling, they've become much more powerful, 479 00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:56,000 Speaker 1: have much more money. Though the largest exporter in the world, 480 00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:59,080 Speaker 1: they have the largest navy, which we don't really talk about. 481 00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 1: The power that China has is pretty extreme at this point. 482 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:06,879 Speaker 1: Now you see President g meeting with President Putin, You 483 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:10,040 Speaker 1: see this situation with Brazil and China now saying oh 484 00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:12,880 Speaker 1: they're not they're getting away from the US dollar. What 485 00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:15,880 Speaker 1: does this mean? Why are these the first signs of war? 486 00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:17,679 Speaker 1: Is there going to be at war? Is it's just 487 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:20,400 Speaker 1: they're going to move in and we're not prepared. We 488 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:24,159 Speaker 1: see that our military is becoming less and less able 489 00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:26,399 Speaker 1: while they have the largest navy in the world. What 490 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:28,920 Speaker 1: does this mean for us? There's a lot to unpack there. 491 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:33,440 Speaker 1: But China is in fact preparing for war. Cejun Ping 492 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:36,520 Speaker 1: talks about war all the time. He's engaged, as you 493 00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:39,040 Speaker 1: point out, in the fastest military build up since the 494 00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:43,320 Speaker 1: Second World War. He's calling up reserves, which means he's 495 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:48,440 Speaker 1: mobilizing China's civilians for war. So we see a regime 496 00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:51,800 Speaker 1: that wants to go to war. Now I know that 497 00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:55,880 Speaker 1: cejun Ping knows better, but emotionally they want to kill 498 00:28:56,200 --> 00:29:00,520 Speaker 1: and they have been taught to kill Americas. So you know, 499 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:06,160 Speaker 1: this is a situation where we Americans we're not paying attention. 500 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:10,800 Speaker 1: We didn't pay attention when Islamic terrorists detonated a bomb 501 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:12,960 Speaker 1: under the North Tower of the World Trade Center in 502 00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:17,120 Speaker 1: nineteen ninety three killed six Americans. We didn't pay attention, 503 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:19,560 Speaker 1: of course, until nine to eleven when Osam bin Laden 504 00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:23,960 Speaker 1: killed twenty nine hundred and seventy seven Americans on one day. Well, 505 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:26,000 Speaker 1: we're doing the same thing with China. We're not paying 506 00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:28,560 Speaker 1: attention to what the Chinese are saying. We're not paying 507 00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:31,160 Speaker 1: attention to what the Chinese are doing, which means that 508 00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:34,840 Speaker 1: although we are a far more powerful country than China, 509 00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:37,760 Speaker 1: we can lose. We can lose our country. Tutor. I 510 00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:41,160 Speaker 1: think that people find that to be completely absurd. They 511 00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:44,920 Speaker 1: can't believe that there is the possibility of losing the 512 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:48,280 Speaker 1: United States, even though we've all read history, we've all 513 00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:53,680 Speaker 1: learned history. I mean, empires fall, countries fall, government's fall, 514 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:57,200 Speaker 1: and this is exactly the motive of China. So when 515 00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:00,840 Speaker 1: you see Putin and Gee together there, when you see 516 00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:03,840 Speaker 1: him saying he's brokering world peace, he's all about peace. 517 00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:07,240 Speaker 1: I mean, this is a lot of these crazy dictators 518 00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:09,000 Speaker 1: in the past who have come out, They've said I'm 519 00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:11,719 Speaker 1: doing what's best for the world. I'm the guy that 520 00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:14,320 Speaker 1: gets it. That's generally the guy that you want to 521 00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:17,280 Speaker 1: stay away from. But we are not. It's clear that 522 00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:20,160 Speaker 1: people are not understanding this message. They prey on the 523 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:24,200 Speaker 1: week you've got Joe Biden, who is potentially compromised. I mean, 524 00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:27,520 Speaker 1: we've seen the laptop hunter. Biden for sure compromise, the 525 00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:30,920 Speaker 1: Biden family all getting money from China. Where does this 526 00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:34,600 Speaker 1: leave us in the United States of America? Because the 527 00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:38,360 Speaker 1: message to me is very clear. He is posing as 528 00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:41,920 Speaker 1: the guy who can bring you peace because world domination 529 00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:44,680 Speaker 1: is his goal, and what's standing in his way right 530 00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:48,680 Speaker 1: now is a very weak United States. That's right. You know. 531 00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:52,719 Speaker 1: China and Russia are weak states, but they've got strong leaders. 532 00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:57,480 Speaker 1: United States is a strong state, but we've got week leadership, 533 00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:02,240 Speaker 1: and that means we can lose. We Americans have really 534 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:05,760 Speaker 1: no idea what's coming because we, as I mentioned, we 535 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:08,719 Speaker 1: think that we're entitled to be oblivious, and so our 536 00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:11,960 Speaker 1: enemies reach out and strike us from time to time. 537 00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:17,400 Speaker 1: Right now, China and Russia believe that they're driving events. 538 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:21,000 Speaker 1: We know that when Siejumping left Vladimir Putin after that 539 00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:26,480 Speaker 1: three day tour of Moscow in March, and Siejumping said, 540 00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:30,240 Speaker 1: and this is almost a direct quote, changes coming that 541 00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:34,120 Speaker 1: we have not seen in a hundred years, and together 542 00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:37,400 Speaker 1: you and I will be driving events that siejum Ping 543 00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:41,160 Speaker 1: to Vladimir Putin. So siejun Ping thinks that the United 544 00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:43,840 Speaker 1: States is no longer a factor now I'm not saying 545 00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:47,040 Speaker 1: his assessment is correct, but it doesn't matter whether he's 546 00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:49,920 Speaker 1: correct or not. What matters is what he thinks, because 547 00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:54,040 Speaker 1: what he thinks will motivate him to do things which 548 00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:57,560 Speaker 1: I think will lead to disaster. And I think that 549 00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:01,200 Speaker 1: people are confused. I was to one of our generals 550 00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:02,920 Speaker 1: about this, and I said, well, I have a lot 551 00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:06,040 Speaker 1: of people saying to me, they are the world's largest exporter. 552 00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:09,560 Speaker 1: I mean, we imported over six hundred billion dollars worth 553 00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:12,760 Speaker 1: of product from them last year, and we're giving them. 554 00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:16,840 Speaker 1: We're exporting from our country about one hundred and fifty billion. 555 00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:20,840 Speaker 1: So it's very off center there, right, there's no balance 556 00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:24,920 Speaker 1: in what we're importing and exporting. And I said, the 557 00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:28,200 Speaker 1: message that I continually get from people is they're rely 558 00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:30,840 Speaker 1: on us. If we're bringing in six hundred billion, they 559 00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:34,360 Speaker 1: need us. And this general was very frank with me. 560 00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:38,040 Speaker 1: He said, you cannot use logic or what you think 561 00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:42,200 Speaker 1: they would do with someone who is erratic and makes 562 00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:48,680 Speaker 1: decisions that are completely bananas, quite honestly, and we're at risk. 563 00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:50,960 Speaker 1: You're with them, you're talking to a madman. I mean, 564 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:53,360 Speaker 1: this is a guy who we saw him sitting just 565 00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:56,960 Speaker 1: months ago at his head table and the guy next 566 00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:59,640 Speaker 1: to him gets taken away by the Chinese police and 567 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:01,600 Speaker 1: you never see or hear from again. This is like 568 00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:04,240 Speaker 1: his right hand man, right, like a cabinet member in 569 00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:08,400 Speaker 1: the United States getting whisked away from a big federal 570 00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:11,120 Speaker 1: meeting and we never see him again. And instead of 571 00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:13,280 Speaker 1: the United States saying what kind of what kind of 572 00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:16,280 Speaker 1: human rights offenses are happening, how can this happen to 573 00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:19,080 Speaker 1: one of his essential cabinet members, we just look the 574 00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:22,520 Speaker 1: other way. I mean, I think you're you're very accurate 575 00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:25,440 Speaker 1: when you say we want to not see this. This 576 00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:28,959 Speaker 1: is this is this happened on television. We saw him 577 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:32,440 Speaker 1: get whisked away, and no one said this is pretty 578 00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:35,800 Speaker 1: crazy to think about. Yeah, it's even a little bit 579 00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:38,320 Speaker 1: worse than that, because you're talking about the communist part 580 00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:41,760 Speaker 1: is twentieth National Congress on October and that was the 581 00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:45,280 Speaker 1: scene on the final day of the event, and the 582 00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:48,760 Speaker 1: person who was taken away was Hujin Tao, who was 583 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:54,440 Speaker 1: Sijumping's predecessor. So this was akin to a political purge 584 00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:58,280 Speaker 1: done in front of everybody, and and Ciejumping. Remember this 585 00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:02,560 Speaker 1: was done not in a closed session. Um the press 586 00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:06,400 Speaker 1: was invited into watch this occur. So this was an 587 00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:10,279 Speaker 1: intimidation move on the part of siegeun pain and see 588 00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:16,160 Speaker 1: right now presides over a country which has terribly terrible 589 00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:21,440 Speaker 1: domestic problems. He has no way to solve these problems, except, 590 00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:24,920 Speaker 1: of course, to create a war abroad. Um. And so 591 00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:27,440 Speaker 1: therefore he this, this is a guy who can take 592 00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:31,839 Speaker 1: us by surprise because he's ambitious, he's aggressive, he's woeful, um, 593 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:36,400 Speaker 1: and he believes the United States UM is no longer there. 594 00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:40,400 Speaker 1: So um, we we're in for We're in for a 595 00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:43,439 Speaker 1: war unless something changes. And right now I don't see 596 00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:47,040 Speaker 1: anything changing. I've heard people say that this balloon that 597 00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:50,040 Speaker 1: came over the United States could have easily carried missiles 598 00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:52,800 Speaker 1: on it, that they this went went undetected. They're trying 599 00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:56,719 Speaker 1: to get things into the United States airspace that go undetected. 600 00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:01,080 Speaker 1: We've never seen bombs dropped on the States like that before. 601 00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:04,319 Speaker 1: People really don't have a concept of what that looks like, 602 00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:07,560 Speaker 1: what truly being at war looks like. And I think 603 00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:09,719 Speaker 1: that's the kind of the most terrifying part about this 604 00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:12,399 Speaker 1: is that really when people go, WHOA, what's the big 605 00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:15,600 Speaker 1: deal of bringing a Chinese company into Michigan and you say, 606 00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:18,719 Speaker 1: you're in the center of the country with the largest 607 00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:23,840 Speaker 1: amount of fresh water of water resources really in the world. 608 00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:26,319 Speaker 1: This is exactly what the Chinese want, think of. If 609 00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:29,160 Speaker 1: they set up base here, they can just go from 610 00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:32,319 Speaker 1: Michigan to the entire country and take us over. And 611 00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:35,080 Speaker 1: that's to me an incredible fear. But we know that 612 00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:37,960 Speaker 1: they prey on the week. We know that they play 613 00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:41,200 Speaker 1: mind games. They understand the psychology of all of this, 614 00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:45,000 Speaker 1: and that's why I believe how they've been able to 615 00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:48,120 Speaker 1: cause this disruption in the United States as it is. 616 00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:51,520 Speaker 1: We have these conversations about TikTok. Well, TikTok is really 617 00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:53,279 Speaker 1: just a way to get into the minds of the 618 00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:56,879 Speaker 1: people and cause disruption. And once you have disruption, then 619 00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:59,080 Speaker 1: you can step in and say I'm going to provide 620 00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:03,200 Speaker 1: the answer. And that's how people get sucked into globalism. 621 00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:05,759 Speaker 1: Is great, this is not a danger. We should have 622 00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:08,279 Speaker 1: the Chinese on our land. Doesn't matter that we can't 623 00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:11,240 Speaker 1: buy land in China. Let's do this. But they pray 624 00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:13,200 Speaker 1: on the week. We've seen that with Joe Biden. We've 625 00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:17,080 Speaker 1: certainly seen that with Hunter Biden. We've got a guy 626 00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:21,600 Speaker 1: in Michigan who is the president of Farris State University, 627 00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:25,160 Speaker 1: and he's saying, we're partners with them. You know, I 628 00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:27,879 Speaker 1: haven't had discussions about moving people in here, but we're 629 00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:30,879 Speaker 1: partners with them. What does that mean? Would you hear 630 00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:34,120 Speaker 1: somebody at one of our universities. Clearly the university is 631 00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:38,160 Speaker 1: funded by the taxpayers. Goshen is now funded by the taxpayers, 632 00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:41,080 Speaker 1: and you hear him saying, I'm a partner with a 633 00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:44,600 Speaker 1: company that pledges allegiance to the CCP. What do you 634 00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:48,160 Speaker 1: think about that we're bringing the enemy into our country, 635 00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:51,720 Speaker 1: you know, just one of the things you talked about 636 00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:54,680 Speaker 1: about freshwater and all the rest of it. There is 637 00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:58,879 Speaker 1: a report, unconfirmed, but there's a report that General Scherhau Tong, 638 00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:01,160 Speaker 1: who was Defense minister at the time, this is the 639 00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:04,880 Speaker 1: beginning of the century, actually gave a secret speech to 640 00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:10,520 Speaker 1: the Chinese military about how China should exterminate all Americans 641 00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:15,600 Speaker 1: with disease because China needed American land. And then he said, well, 642 00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:18,640 Speaker 1: there's an alternative plan, which is to leave some Americans 643 00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:24,080 Speaker 1: alive so that they can serve us Chinese. So, you know, 644 00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:28,920 Speaker 1: when we think about COVID nineteen, we don't know the 645 00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:32,880 Speaker 1: origins of saris kovi to the pathogen that causes this disease, 646 00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:35,640 Speaker 1: but we do know that Chinese leader of siege and 647 00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:39,200 Speaker 1: pin to level the playing field, actually deliberately spread this 648 00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:43,560 Speaker 1: beyond China's borders. He lied about contagiousness. He knew it 649 00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:47,200 Speaker 1: was highly transmissible human to human, but decided to tell 650 00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:49,960 Speaker 1: the world it was not contagious. And then while he 651 00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:54,240 Speaker 1: was locking down his own country, he was pressuring other countries, 652 00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:57,879 Speaker 1: including the US, to take arrivals from China without restrictions. 653 00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:00,480 Speaker 1: You put those two things together and it's clear that 654 00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:03,120 Speaker 1: this was a deliberate spread of the disease. So we're 655 00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:06,960 Speaker 1: talking about one million, one hundred and twenty four thousand 656 00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:10,120 Speaker 1: or so Americans who have been killed for biodisease that 657 00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:14,319 Speaker 1: should have never left Central China. And we're also talking 658 00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:17,319 Speaker 1: about fetnyl. When we have the numbers for the last year, 659 00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:20,240 Speaker 1: we'll find that there are more than eighty thousand Americans 660 00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:23,319 Speaker 1: who have died from doses of illegal Chinese fetanyl, which 661 00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:27,640 Speaker 1: the Communist Party backs the fetnyl gangs. So this is 662 00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:31,960 Speaker 1: a deliberate murder of Americans. I think it's interesting that 663 00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:34,480 Speaker 1: you say there are certain people that feel that they 664 00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:37,520 Speaker 1: will be in with the Chinese Communist Party, that they'll 665 00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:40,719 Speaker 1: be considered leaders. And I look across the country right now, 666 00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:43,799 Speaker 1: I see Governor Younkin saying, I want nothing to do 667 00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:46,600 Speaker 1: with the Chinese corporation. They're not going to come into Virginia. 668 00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:48,600 Speaker 1: I will keep them out. We won't partner with them. 669 00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:51,920 Speaker 1: National security is too important to me. And then you 670 00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:55,960 Speaker 1: have Gretchen Whitmer, who has the entire state government banned TikTok, 671 00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:58,360 Speaker 1: and she says, but not for me, I'm going to 672 00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:01,359 Speaker 1: actually continue using TikTok because it's a tool for me. 673 00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:05,200 Speaker 1: And then you have Governor Gretchen Witmer who brings in 674 00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:09,120 Speaker 1: two Chinese corporations into the state of Michigan. So is 675 00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:13,080 Speaker 1: Governor Witmer ignorant and moronic about China and just doesn't 676 00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:15,440 Speaker 1: get it? Or is it more nefarious than that? Is 677 00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:19,400 Speaker 1: Governor Whitmer potentially somebody who sees herself as important to 678 00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:22,600 Speaker 1: the Chinese. Yeah, I don't know her, but let me 679 00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:25,800 Speaker 1: mention Tutor that you know, when we talk about war 680 00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:30,040 Speaker 1: in Asia, we have to remember that on the first 681 00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:34,040 Speaker 1: day of that war that will be fought on American soil. 682 00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:37,319 Speaker 1: The Chinese will turn off our lights, they'll turn off 683 00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:44,000 Speaker 1: the water, they'll detonate explosives. You know, we have you know, Chinese. 684 00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:46,800 Speaker 1: I believe that we've got Ministry of State Security agents 685 00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:52,680 Speaker 1: here who are saboteurs. We have across our southern border. 686 00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:56,200 Speaker 1: The increase in the number of Chinese migrants from the 687 00:39:56,320 --> 00:40:00,360 Speaker 1: October through January period was up something like nine hundred, 688 00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:04,279 Speaker 1: almost nine and some of them, you know, almost all 689 00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:06,839 Speaker 1: of those were legitimate refugees, people who are just trying 690 00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:10,279 Speaker 1: to get out of China, but there were also young 691 00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:15,279 Speaker 1: men of military age coming across without attachments to families. 692 00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:19,239 Speaker 1: And we've got to be concerned that, either through the 693 00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:23,160 Speaker 1: companies that are coming into Michigan or across our southern border, 694 00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:27,240 Speaker 1: or otherwise, we have people here who are going to 695 00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:30,479 Speaker 1: create havoc on that first day of a war. It's 696 00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:33,480 Speaker 1: very scary to think that we could have them right 697 00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:36,640 Speaker 1: next door. I know. That's why the community in Big 698 00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:40,160 Speaker 1: Rapids and Green Township are stepping up and saying we 699 00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:42,839 Speaker 1: can't let this happen. There's a lot of people. It's 700 00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:45,560 Speaker 1: interesting because there's so many local people and they've said 701 00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:47,680 Speaker 1: to me, I've never been involved in anything like this. 702 00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:50,719 Speaker 1: But in my heart, I've done the studies. I understand 703 00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:53,640 Speaker 1: this is wrong. We cannot allow this to happen. And 704 00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:55,839 Speaker 1: then they have the pushback from I think a lot 705 00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:58,359 Speaker 1: of people that are naive to the fact that every 706 00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:01,520 Speaker 1: country is not the same. The freedoms that we experience, 707 00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:04,880 Speaker 1: the entitlements really that we experience here in the United States, 708 00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:07,600 Speaker 1: that's not going to happen if China takes over. In fact, 709 00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:11,560 Speaker 1: many people would not survive that. Can you tell our 710 00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:14,600 Speaker 1: audience that I know that they want to learn more 711 00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:18,240 Speaker 1: about this, and you've written these two books. You're on Twitter. 712 00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:23,440 Speaker 1: It's Gordon G. Chang at Twitter. Your handles at Gordon 713 00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:26,560 Speaker 1: g chang at on Twitter. Correct, that's right. Can you 714 00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:28,960 Speaker 1: tell them where they can get your books because I 715 00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:32,400 Speaker 1: think it's really important that people educate themselves on this. Yeah. 716 00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:35,200 Speaker 1: I archive all my articles for free on my website 717 00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:40,359 Speaker 1: which is www dot g O R d O, NCCHNG 718 00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:43,759 Speaker 1: dot com, which is really what's up to date right now, 719 00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:48,640 Speaker 1: and Twitter at Gordon G. Chang. Okay, wonderful, Thank you 720 00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:51,640 Speaker 1: so much for being on here today. We follow you 721 00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:55,320 Speaker 1: constantly from our office because obviously this is a big concern, 722 00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:58,080 Speaker 1: but what you said today was priceless for our audience 723 00:41:58,080 --> 00:41:59,880 Speaker 1: to here, so thank you. Thank you so much, Tutor. 724 00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:02,080 Speaker 1: I really appreciate it, and thank you all for joining 725 00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:05,160 Speaker 1: me on the Tutor Dixon Podcast. For this episode and others, 726 00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:08,320 Speaker 1: go to Tutor Dixon podcast dot com. You can subscribe 727 00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:11,320 Speaker 1: right there and join us next time on the Tutor 728 00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:13,120 Speaker 1: Dickson Podcast. Have a great day.