1 00:00:00,920 --> 00:00:03,720 Speaker 1: D M V d C Baltimore. Is that included in 2 00:00:03,760 --> 00:00:05,560 Speaker 1: the agorative I don't fucking know, But what I know 3 00:00:05,720 --> 00:00:08,560 Speaker 1: is I would be there Friday, July six at Brooklyn 4 00:00:08,560 --> 00:00:10,320 Speaker 1: on you for a fun as happy hour with y'all. 5 00:00:10,320 --> 00:00:12,760 Speaker 1: Need is I'm doing that sheet. I might even smoke 6 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 1: a houka with you bitches. Okay, it's giving. I might 7 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:17,320 Speaker 1: have to throw up and someone will hold my braids. 8 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,079 Speaker 1: That's how fucked up I plan on getting. But what 9 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 1: I will tell you is that the sex sells watch party. 10 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:23,439 Speaker 1: Sorry if youse, I will be getting that lit and 11 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 1: it's an unseen episode. We are doing hell of vaccinator 12 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 1: ship my nigga okay, popping my pussy on the bar 13 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:32,920 Speaker 1: type ship. Go to the link in the description of 14 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 1: this episode to get your tickets. Go to my Instagram 15 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:38,560 Speaker 1: w squeezy, what's my name? Wheezy w TF and a 16 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:40,160 Speaker 1: link gonna be in that bitch too. I will see 17 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:43,840 Speaker 1: y'all host meet and greed is included for everybody. Let's 18 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:49,720 Speaker 1: go guess what decision we're about to make. Horrible decisions. 19 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 1: Welcome guys to another episode of Horrible Decisions. Oh my 20 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 1: wonder full goodness, I'm your host. Mandy V and I'm 21 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 1: sitting here with my co hot. I don't to the 22 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:15,320 Speaker 1: person that said I'm getting arrogant on this show. Somebody said, 23 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 1: I think it's my attitude towards Mandy, and really it's 24 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:21,319 Speaker 1: because she makes me feel so uncomfortable sometimes. And in 25 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 1: this particular moment, if you're just an audio listener, she 26 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:26,919 Speaker 1: has a hello of a donut with a banana inside 27 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:28,679 Speaker 1: of it and she's putting it in and out. That's 28 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 1: my donut, actually, and not in this context. Do you 29 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:38,399 Speaker 1: want me to poke you in the hole? Okay, now 30 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 1: we know your name, bit with your arrogant as see 31 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 1: either we they just expect you'll know who she is. 32 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 1: I thought, and I didn't even say you Nick, but 33 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 1: you just expected with your I'm just saying I'm wheezy. 34 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 1: And what we really need to do is give a 35 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 1: super warm welcome to one of our favorite guests. He 36 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:02,840 Speaker 1: is like horrible decisions family in a way and in 37 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 1: a way, but I see him more than some of 38 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 1: my friends. I feel like we have such separate relationships 39 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 1: that we probably talked about you maybe every other week. 40 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 1: Like they're tired. Yeah, they're probably start talking about this 41 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 1: man for y'all who do not know. He is a 42 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 1: former guest on the Pot and last time he joined 43 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 1: us we talked about religion. UM. But we are joined 44 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:28,640 Speaker 1: yet again with Daniel Saint, who is the owner of 45 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:31,800 Speaker 1: N S f W, which is the sex club I 46 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 1: constantly talk about going to. UM. I was like, do 47 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 1: you want to Like, are you sure you want to 48 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:39,680 Speaker 1: do this with Daniel? Because you go all the time? 49 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:43,800 Speaker 1: Are you sec There's a lot of things to be 50 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:46,359 Speaker 1: where we have to have a conversation for it, Like 51 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 1: I feel like, what's real? I showed Daniel my text 52 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:54,360 Speaker 1: messages like oh my god, look what's going on right now? 53 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:56,520 Speaker 1: What do I do? And then actually Daniel was the 54 00:02:56,560 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 1: one as well who got me comfortable with the threesome. 55 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:02,680 Speaker 1: I had the first time playing outside of the club. 56 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 1: Can get well? Daniel gave me some tips because I 57 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:08,080 Speaker 1: was just like, you know, when I was looking for 58 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:11,360 Speaker 1: a unicorn, uh, I was just like I went to 59 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 1: Daniel and I was like, do you have to take 60 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:15,400 Speaker 1: her out? Like I'm nervous because I feel like I 61 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 1: gotta wine and She's like I have to take them 62 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 1: to dinner. I get these girls and like a lot 63 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 1: of like I just want to have sex. I didn't 64 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:32,800 Speaker 1: even know. Yeah, but like if I were to be 65 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 1: entered into like a dynamic, like I said, even even 66 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 1: any threesome that essentially has happened with me and another guy, 67 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 1: it's come after a rock star knight of strip clubs 68 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 1: their laughs. You've mentioned that it wasn't Yeah, there's never 69 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 1: been intent, but like a guy has always showed the 70 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 1: girl so much time that she was just like willing 71 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 1: to join us, and a lot of these being my 72 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 1: friends and being guys that I was just sucking. It 73 00:03:57,160 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 1: was different because it's like, no, I was looking for 74 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 1: a uni porn to come into a relationship, So I 75 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 1: thought I had to create the dynamic like what you 76 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 1: in um Old Bay or you and lover Boy have 77 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 1: done in the past. I was kind of going off 78 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 1: of what you've done. You always say you gotta at 79 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 1: least feed, but which I don't believe you're like, do 80 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:27,359 Speaker 1: you guys you want samon avocado roll um. I actually 81 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:28,920 Speaker 1: just had a thought that came to my mind when 82 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 1: it comes to your sex, right, do you feel like 83 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:35,240 Speaker 1: you're at the point where you're starting to enjoy having 84 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 1: sex with others more than alone, or like just in private, 85 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:42,159 Speaker 1: like because you're just around it so much. What masturbate anymore? 86 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 1: So it's kind of I haven't masturbated like four or 87 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:48,280 Speaker 1: five months. Wow, so I really have like I just 88 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:53,840 Speaker 1: have partners. And that's what did not say because she 89 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 1: came in, because I don't think that it's very healthy. 90 00:04:56,880 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 1: It's masturbation months masturbate. It's important, but like, but I 91 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 1: love masturbating. Though we know, we know, we know, we know. 92 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 1: You want to know a secret, Jesus my god. Technically, 93 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 1: oh fuse, I'm so sorry. I don't know if I 94 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:22,280 Speaker 1: was on the clock. Technically I wasn't clocked in because 95 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 1: they paid me a rate like talent bee and to 96 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 1: do my role and produce whatever. But I did masturbate 97 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:32,840 Speaker 1: the night of the taping of Sex Cells at Ennis 98 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:35,159 Speaker 1: of w in the bathroom just chear me out for 99 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 1: a moment. I had to make sure the mike was off. 100 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 1: I learned from the sound guys. Shout out to Mike 101 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 1: taking care of the mike. I remember his name, that 102 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 1: it was the easiest thing Mike with the mike's before 103 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:53,839 Speaker 1: we actually did it was before we did the strip club, 104 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:58,239 Speaker 1: I mean the stripper pole. I just was interviewing people, 105 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:00,279 Speaker 1: laying in bed with them. Everybody was so attracted. The 106 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 1: vibe was going. Daniel offered me a drink. Then someone 107 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:04,600 Speaker 1: offered me a little bit of mushrooms. And mind you, 108 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:06,600 Speaker 1: I am still on the clock at this point, but 109 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 1: I felt like it was part of just like the 110 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 1: whole experience, you know what I'm saying. So like I 111 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 1: just didn't know what was going on. I was feeling 112 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 1: really hot, I was wearing leather and glitter, and I 113 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 1: just had to get it out. And I don't think 114 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:21,919 Speaker 1: there's anything wrong with that. I think it made the 115 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:24,840 Speaker 1: episode better. I think people might just spelled it on me. 116 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:33,040 Speaker 1: I all release. Then, Yeah, it shower is so huge 117 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 1: at the at the clubhouse, and I was like, Okay, 118 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 1: if somebody walked in the bathroom at accident, I could 119 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 1: just be in the shower, act like I was taking 120 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 1: a shower. But I myself as much as I go. 121 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:45,239 Speaker 1: I don't think I've seen anyone use the shower. Yeah, 122 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 1: I mean there's it depends if like there's a show 123 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:50,359 Speaker 1: or something that people use the shower. The all male events, 124 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 1: they use a shower a lot. I'm sorry, sorry, tell 125 00:06:55,040 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 1: us why here you go? Here? You clean up and 126 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 1: stuff more juices, more fluids. I didn't masturbate there, and 127 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 1: even that was a nice ambiance. There was a red 128 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 1: light made me feel like I felt and when I 129 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:12,680 Speaker 1: came out, you know when you feel like someone knows. 130 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 1: This guy was like you okay? And then I was like, 131 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 1: oh my god, I'm gonna think I'm taking a ship. 132 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 1: That's what I would not take a ship at a 133 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 1: sex club. Bro, Like, that's got to be the worst 134 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 1: feeling episode, right, It's OK. But we were there for 135 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 1: eight hours. You know, they ordered cater they had lunch. 136 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 1: Comment I was like, damn, what if I'm gonna have 137 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 1: to go? Has anyone ever like, have you had any 138 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 1: like gross accidents? Yeah? You have. Someone broke the toilet 139 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 1: like two weeks ago we posted it was like, yeah, 140 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 1: weren't hard. They like ripped it off the wall. And 141 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 1: then I was upset because then I ended up going 142 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 1: shortly after and there was only one bathroom and I'm like, damn, 143 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 1: Now there's a line not used to a line. There's 144 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 1: normally two options, but how do you break a toilet? 145 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 1: I don't day was working on that thing. It's like 146 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 1: they're I hope, so do you find that people ever 147 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 1: like use the bathroom for sex even though you have 148 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 1: so many beds. Yeah, they used the bathroom for sex 149 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 1: a lot. And we have signs up let's say, like, 150 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 1: please don't sucking the bathroom. For that exact reason, I 151 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 1: wanted to actually ask you, so for those of you 152 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:18,680 Speaker 1: who are listening to this and may not have gotten 153 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 1: back in the archive too, Daniel's episode and s W 154 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 1: is very kink friendly, and I was wondering because we 155 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 1: talked about so many kinks that are messy. Are there 156 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 1: kinks that are off limits in W? I mean we 157 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 1: try to stay away from blood plagh um. It might 158 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 1: be part of a performance, it might be something that's 159 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 1: part of a show or something that we're doing, but 160 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 1: we can't go there on her period because she loves well, 161 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 1: I mean hearing your peers, Fine, that's fine, that's okay. 162 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:53,440 Speaker 1: People do that, that happens. That's like, that's kind of 163 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 1: like expected, almost like someone's not gonna miss someone's not 164 00:08:57,040 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 1: gonna miss a night for that. I could definitely there's 165 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 1: some girls who are okay with that. I'm okay with it, 166 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:07,199 Speaker 1: just not in front of everybody. Yeah, piss play in 167 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 1: the shower and then like yeah, we have like these 168 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 1: new like mats we just got that are like these 169 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:16,800 Speaker 1: like absorbent it's harps, the round harps. It's called like 170 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 1: the pillow or the bellow or something. It's just we 171 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 1: happen down for so but it's like you just throw 172 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 1: it down. So like whenever there's like, you know, a 173 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 1: wet girl, like here you go down. So blood play, No, 174 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:39,559 Speaker 1: and I mean we don't really we don't really engage 175 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 1: in too much Scott play. Have you ever been around 176 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 1: when it was going on? No? No, I mean like 177 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 1: you go to like gay like circuit parties and like 178 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 1: there's gonna be some ship. Tell us what a circuit 179 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:52,560 Speaker 1: party is nothing, I'm not well, I'm not familiar with 180 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 1: what a circuit party is. A circuit party is like 181 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 1: a rave for gay man. Everyone's like just you know, 182 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 1: gay and fucking everywhere, and they have like fish shows 183 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 1: and stuff like that. We used to work with this 184 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:09,320 Speaker 1: group called the Black Party Um and they do this 185 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 1: whole like Killeguilla theme things. So they had to Killa 186 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 1: Gilla knighte in the Bronx like thousand guys. So I 187 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:19,080 Speaker 1: was saying the whole time, Yeah, it's not Caligula. Cligula. Yeah, 188 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 1: that's what they Caligula. Caligula was like my first name 189 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:31,960 Speaker 1: about okay, and so this was something like and you 190 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 1: work show and then everyone fucked or did you just 191 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 1: have those rooms that you go fuck and they have 192 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 1: like swings set up and it's just like it's like 193 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:41,440 Speaker 1: a party where you fuck. It's like it's really like that. 194 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 1: Um but yeah, we like a thousand dudes and like 195 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 1: deep deep techno thousands. Yeah. That reminds me like sex 196 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 1: in the City days when I used to watch, like 197 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:55,319 Speaker 1: the party's name was huge. I got kicked out of 198 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:59,319 Speaker 1: the circuit party why because you're you don't have a dick? Yes, good, 199 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 1: you supposed to be there. I mean it was like 200 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:03,959 Speaker 1: a heavy drug night. I was in bustuit, you know 201 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 1: what I mean. And I was like at this one 202 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 1: place all the members only, and the guy was like, 203 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 1: oh my god, baby, come with me. And when I 204 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:10,719 Speaker 1: suck a party, I was like, yeah, so we go. 205 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:12,720 Speaker 1: I don't even know his name. We're in the car, 206 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:15,240 Speaker 1: I get out, someone lets me in and then in 207 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 1: the middle of it, people are looking at me kind 208 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 1: of sucked up, and I was like, oh my God, 209 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 1: they realized you weren't talking ship and you had to go. 210 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:24,960 Speaker 1: That's what it was. The security card comes over and 211 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 1: he was just like, yeah bad. You know. I'm like, 212 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 1: you know when people say that, they're like it, we 213 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 1: didn't really shitty that. I am so sorry when I 214 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:37,040 Speaker 1: need you to leave, no, no, finish your drink, but 215 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:39,720 Speaker 1: you just have to go. It was and I was 216 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:41,680 Speaker 1: so embarrassed, and I was like, like like, they didn't escort 217 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 1: me out. Did you get your money back? No? I oh, 218 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 1: I paid for drink tickets. You know how that goes. 219 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 1: But like no, it was embarrassing. And then like when 220 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 1: I was outside, I ran into one and they were 221 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 1: like coming with us. I was like, but these parties 222 00:11:57,400 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 1: are really necessary though, because the more I've learned about 223 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:03,840 Speaker 1: the gay community and spaces that are for them, you know, 224 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:06,960 Speaker 1: drag bunches have turned into a whole Like bachelorette party, 225 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 1: you have shown turn the spectacles and this is someone's 226 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 1: culture and their livelihood and their vibe in some cases, 227 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:16,679 Speaker 1: their sexuality, whether you circuit party. So like, I get 228 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 1: it because one girl goes and then she wants to 229 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 1: bring her friends. Oh my god, we love going to 230 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:23,560 Speaker 1: gay parties, so nobody hits on us, like girl, it's annoying. 231 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 1: Oh no, that don't mean they don't hit on you 232 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:30,040 Speaker 1: that well, I guess I wanted to. I wanted to 233 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 1: talk about it, and I'll be on the didn't well, 234 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 1: I didn't want to talk about that too. You're considering 235 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:39,920 Speaker 1: yourself bisexual? Correct or is there any other label under 236 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 1: the umbrella that you identify as um? No bisexual? Identify 237 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:48,280 Speaker 1: as duels like two spirit, Like I don't feel necessarily 238 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:50,320 Speaker 1: male female, Like most of the time, I feel like 239 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:53,199 Speaker 1: very you said dual spirited. Yeah, like two spirit. It's 240 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 1: like it's an lgbt Q I A plus. Yeah, I've 241 00:12:57,040 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 1: never heard of more indigenous term. It's like being Diana 242 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:02,920 Speaker 1: being native, like kind of going back to you know, 243 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:06,760 Speaker 1: what things were back then before settlers, before colonization. There 244 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 1: was a lot. Yes, before that, there was you know 245 00:13:13,280 --> 00:13:16,080 Speaker 1: people within these tribes that were considered two spirit. They 246 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:18,320 Speaker 1: weren't necessary male and necessary female. But they wouldn't call 247 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 1: them trans because that didn't exist. It was just two spirit, 248 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:23,280 Speaker 1: which is you know you have both of those, you 249 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 1: know kind of feelings like for me and it's w 250 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 1: in the way I treat the membership is very motherly, 251 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 1: very like caring, very like take care of these people, 252 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 1: take care of the people who are in our membership, 253 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 1: and like really try to care, you know, really try 254 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 1: to like you know, this isn't a customer. This is 255 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 1: like someone that you're worried about or care about, or 256 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 1: you instill that in other people and then people feel 257 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 1: like it's family. So it's like those feelings in me 258 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:46,840 Speaker 1: are very very strong. Like one of the things that 259 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:48,839 Speaker 1: you know, I will regret that I'll never be able 260 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:50,120 Speaker 1: to be pregnant. I'll never be able to have a 261 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 1: child and never be able to experience that. And it's 262 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 1: like there is this longing inside of me to do that, 263 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:58,320 Speaker 1: but I wouldn't consider myself trans But two spirit is 264 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:00,720 Speaker 1: the thing that fits the best for me. Interesting, I've 265 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:03,840 Speaker 1: never heard someone say that I like that they wish 266 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:06,040 Speaker 1: they could have that feeling. I've heard women say that 267 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:10,319 Speaker 1: I can't get pregnant, but I've never thought the opposite. Actually, bro, 268 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 1: I'm too spirited. I would love to know what it 269 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:16,800 Speaker 1: feels like to have a dick when it goes inside 270 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:18,880 Speaker 1: and pussy. I didn't want to know what that feels like. 271 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 1: That one like, but it's in my clock, but like, 272 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 1: I don't really get to feel it. I get to 273 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:25,640 Speaker 1: see everything going on around it. But I've always wanted 274 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:28,840 Speaker 1: to know what it feels like for my dick to bust, 275 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 1: because clearly my dicks just I feel like it's going 276 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:35,200 Speaker 1: like an explosion. Had sexy condom recently because like you know, 277 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 1: I mean, I have a main partner. But when he came, 278 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:41,520 Speaker 1: I felt it even in the condom, and I was like, yo, 279 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 1: that you had to have fucking exploded for me to 280 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 1: feel it. And it wasn't broken. I was like taken 281 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:51,440 Speaker 1: out take and I was like stretching out mixture and 282 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:53,640 Speaker 1: all and it. I was like, bro, that had to 283 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 1: be so much come and I was like, I wish 284 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 1: I knew it. That felt like, well, my guy just 285 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 1: a little trick. Now he makes it jump inside my pussy, bitch, 286 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:06,720 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, it's muscles. Wait, oh wait, Dix Dix 287 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:12,880 Speaker 1: have kegel I know, so I know when they make 288 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:15,720 Speaker 1: it jump. But I didn't do that inside of a pussy, 289 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 1: but she did. I said, I feel what you're doing. 290 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 1: That's what I told him. Anyways, let's get to our 291 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 1: vanilla ship. Guys are vanilla ship for those of you 292 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:27,600 Speaker 1: who are tuning in for the first time, is essentially 293 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 1: some sort of sex in the fucking news, and we 294 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:33,080 Speaker 1: don't see here and talk about it fucking news, all right, 295 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:37,560 Speaker 1: so uh this week, it's not necessarily fucking. But I 296 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 1: think this would be a really cool conversation for us 297 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 1: to get into because we're all kind of liberal, but 298 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:44,680 Speaker 1: I have a little conservative opinion on this. A mom 299 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 1: was busted at six Flags after a guard says her 300 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 1: shorts were too short in Colorado. She said, um, I 301 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:55,440 Speaker 1: want to know how. So there was in Oklahoma City. 302 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 1: So he was a Colorado mom, and she said she 303 00:15:57,360 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 1: was ruined by the horrific body shaming experience. I was 304 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 1: terrified I was about to go to jail over a 305 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:04,600 Speaker 1: pair of shorts. You get your check, bitch from six 306 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 1: She said. The family trip went off the rails after 307 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:10,680 Speaker 1: her daughter was yelled at by a park police officer 308 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:13,520 Speaker 1: for rolling down a hill right on her heelis next 309 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 1: to me, and when the guard came over, he proceeded 310 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:18,800 Speaker 1: to follow me, grab my shoulder to turn me around 311 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 1: and say my shorts were too short. So here are 312 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:25,600 Speaker 1: the shorts. Um, I don't think she's sitting down in 313 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 1: case I want to see if the cheeks was out 314 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:30,560 Speaker 1: in the back. It's only her sitting down. But um, 315 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 1: she said, I committed no crime. I proceeded to walk 316 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:35,600 Speaker 1: to my boyfriend, as I am autistic and I have 317 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 1: a hard time talking to officers. She followed me, yelling 318 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:41,520 Speaker 1: me calling for backup. The incompetent manager showed up and 319 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 1: began body shaming me and was told I needed to 320 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:46,080 Speaker 1: go buy new shorts, which I am not obligated to 321 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 1: purchase anything I don't want to. It was then threatened 322 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 1: with criminal trespassing, and finally I agreed to buy new 323 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 1: shorts too. I'm actually surprised they did this to a becky. 324 00:16:56,800 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 1: I'm surprised. I will say, they don't look that. They 325 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:03,560 Speaker 1: don't look that short. The way, the way, the way 326 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:05,920 Speaker 1: to eat that the cool she be eating some shorts 327 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:08,920 Speaker 1: in the summitside because she's small, and she's small, That's 328 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:11,480 Speaker 1: why I'm I'm shocked. I was shocked. But I will 329 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:15,800 Speaker 1: say this, I think what happened to her was ridiculous. 330 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:18,160 Speaker 1: But if her cheeks were out, like if I'm seeing 331 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:21,959 Speaker 1: bottom cheek, I don't really think you should have like 332 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:24,080 Speaker 1: if you're in a kid friendly space, should there be 333 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:26,160 Speaker 1: a dress code? And if there is a dress code, like, 334 00:17:26,560 --> 00:17:29,159 Speaker 1: what would it be because airlines have dress code. Was 335 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 1: just about to tell a story about your friend I have. 336 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:34,880 Speaker 1: I have a friend and she was wearing like leggings actually, 337 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 1: but something about what she had on. They actually took 338 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:41,480 Speaker 1: her and my friend. My friend was dressed okay, but 339 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:44,119 Speaker 1: she the other girl was not. And it tapped her 340 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 1: on the shoulder and was like, man, you can't get 341 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:48,000 Speaker 1: on this flight dressed like that, Like you either have 342 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 1: to go into your luggage and change or you're not 343 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 1: allowed on this flight. And literally, like they caused an uproar, 344 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:55,240 Speaker 1: but they ended up having to get onto another flight 345 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:58,200 Speaker 1: because they tried to fight it, and literally the airline 346 00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:00,960 Speaker 1: was like, no, we're allowed to say that you can't 347 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:04,000 Speaker 1: come on the flight dress like this. And and and 348 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 1: it was leggings. I mean those leggings that it's like 349 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:08,919 Speaker 1: it has like those lines and ship and kind of 350 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:16,159 Speaker 1: shapes your ass. This was years ago that there was 351 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:18,040 Speaker 1: a lot a lot of stuff with leggings early on 352 00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 1: when they first came out, like people were like, oh, 353 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 1: shoot people when they came out a lot of shaming 354 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:25,280 Speaker 1: around like oh you could see through it or and something. 355 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:27,320 Speaker 1: I mean even even in corporate America. I know a 356 00:18:27,320 --> 00:18:30,800 Speaker 1: lot of women try to get away with wearing leggings. Well, 357 00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:33,400 Speaker 1: and when I was, when I was bigger, and when 358 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:36,480 Speaker 1: I was bigger buying pants that weren't too long, it 359 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:39,120 Speaker 1: was really hard for me to shop. And so yeah, 360 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:41,159 Speaker 1: I would try to get away with leggings as much 361 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:44,720 Speaker 1: as I can, But those were things that corporate would 362 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:46,920 Speaker 1: be like, that's against the dress code. It was literally 363 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 1: in the handbook like leggings were a thing at one 364 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:52,959 Speaker 1: point that were looked at as like under clothes. I'm 365 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:57,080 Speaker 1: trying to look up the actual um like dress code 366 00:18:57,119 --> 00:19:01,880 Speaker 1: that it says. Alaska Airline actually says that anyone who 367 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 1: is barefoot older than two years old cannot have an 368 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:09,320 Speaker 1: uncovered middrift. So bitch, I can't wear can't even wear 369 00:19:09,359 --> 00:19:12,840 Speaker 1: a tank top. I don't think they That's what I meant. 370 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:17,960 Speaker 1: Y'all know what he is. Just don't try to look 371 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 1: in sexy anywhere you go. But what is that for? 372 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:23,840 Speaker 1: Is it for the children? Is it because men don't 373 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:26,200 Speaker 1: know how to fucking keep their dick soft? I don't 374 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 1: feel like everyone has barefoot, then let's see American Airline 375 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:32,760 Speaker 1: says offensive clothing. I will tell you though, I did 376 00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 1: have a shirt that said suck the police on and um. 377 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:37,760 Speaker 1: Somebody was like. She was really nice about it though. 378 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:41,560 Speaker 1: She was like, hey, I love your shirt, but do 379 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 1: you have a sweater or something. I was like, and 380 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:45,119 Speaker 1: I didn't even realize that I put it on. I 381 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 1: get that delta barefoot, Um a tire hygiene or or odor. 382 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:54,040 Speaker 1: That's an unreasonable risk or annoyance to pass. That is fair. 383 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:59,879 Speaker 1: Now cut your out. Was coming from the whole place, bitch, 384 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:01,919 Speaker 1: And I was like, it's just this country. But I 385 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:04,360 Speaker 1: ain't gonna I don't want to get canceled. I want 386 00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:07,160 Speaker 1: to get canceled. But the whole point I was like, 387 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:10,360 Speaker 1: does the whole country smell like this? God damn it 388 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:13,360 Speaker 1: was rancid. Man. I was like, ain't nobody you don't 389 00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:16,479 Speaker 1: really do this barefoot ship United spirits out plush. Everybody 390 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:20,240 Speaker 1: has mentioned being barefoot. White people stop, man, for sure, 391 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 1: they don't put on planes. They'd love to take the 392 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:25,600 Speaker 1: shoes off. That's right. I didn't hold you. Then I'm 393 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:30,880 Speaker 1: half white, bitch. How sucks I take my shoes because 394 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:34,399 Speaker 1: I'm little, so I'll get in my feet like so 395 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:37,760 Speaker 1: I take my shoes, I do it. But you're not 396 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:42,840 Speaker 1: walking into the bathroom befoot be putting their feet up barefoot. 397 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:46,200 Speaker 1: I've seen that up like that, and I almost like yeah, 398 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:48,159 Speaker 1: I was like, no, we've never seen that. In between 399 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:54,160 Speaker 1: the you know, I do like and then the second 400 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:56,800 Speaker 1: because if I'm sitting on the seat right here and 401 00:20:56,800 --> 00:20:58,520 Speaker 1: I want to the TV right here, I'll just be 402 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 1: laid up like I would go the fat man. You're 403 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 1: telling me, you go like this, and much like you're 404 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:09,879 Speaker 1: talking about if there's a chair in front of me 405 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:12,159 Speaker 1: like this, No, I'm talking about if I'm in like 406 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 1: one of them seats, like because you know, a bitch 407 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 1: flying first class. If I got the first seat, a 408 00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:19,679 Speaker 1: bitch gonna be like this because the TV right nona 409 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:27,200 Speaker 1: be loud their socks to me, I don't hold a 410 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 1: bare foot, but I also don't normally wear like sandals 411 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:33,120 Speaker 1: or heels, like I normally wear sneakers through the airport, 412 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:36,160 Speaker 1: so I always have on fucking socks. I would flip 413 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:38,159 Speaker 1: out if I saw someone's barefoot on my Like I've 414 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:39,680 Speaker 1: seen picture that where the foot be right here and 415 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:44,840 Speaker 1: bit your toe would be broken. Get your motherfucker. Yeah, 416 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:47,399 Speaker 1: but I don't do it in two seats where my 417 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:51,760 Speaker 1: feet is right. Okay, Wow, we're grateful for that. Thank you. 418 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:54,800 Speaker 1: So here's the question that, yeah, I wanted us all 419 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:57,320 Speaker 1: to debate. What do you think about a dress code 420 00:21:57,320 --> 00:21:59,440 Speaker 1: for places where kids are normally Do you think that man, 421 00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:02,680 Speaker 1: the kids they all got bout a cheeks, as long 422 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 1: as it ain't a dick showing, a coochie showing, or 423 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:08,720 Speaker 1: like an aerol of showing. I think it's fine because 424 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:11,120 Speaker 1: they got all those same parts, and we should normalize 425 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:15,040 Speaker 1: the human body. That's my tape foot them kids go hey, 426 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:18,879 Speaker 1: go ahead conservative. I can't even I feel bad saying it, 427 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:20,800 Speaker 1: but like I could see someone being like, you can't 428 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 1: have your ass out at six Legs or Disney Bro. 429 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:24,879 Speaker 1: What about you, Dani? I can see happy. I mean, 430 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:27,080 Speaker 1: I think you have to respect the kids as much 431 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:29,919 Speaker 1: as possible. I don't know. I feel like the I 432 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:34,360 Speaker 1: think because like that's just it's gonna I think sometimes 433 00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:36,520 Speaker 1: it attracts like a lot of negative attention, and I 434 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:38,880 Speaker 1: think that's not good. I think there's an appropriate way 435 00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:42,760 Speaker 1: to dress when you're in kids spaces. That is okay. Now, 436 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:47,080 Speaker 1: like this girl with like, yeah, I'm fine with this, 437 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 1: might lose the leather. My kilter isn't a problem with 438 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 1: the leather is a problem. I don't think it's revealing 439 00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:57,800 Speaker 1: that as long as like my balls are now, I 440 00:22:57,880 --> 00:22:59,960 Speaker 1: just feel like you should be able to wear whatever 441 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:02,919 Speaker 1: the funk you want to wear, so all kids, well, 442 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:04,960 Speaker 1: I gotta respect some niglas that ain't come out of 443 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:06,879 Speaker 1: my coupe minute. I feel like kids also, like what 444 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:08,880 Speaker 1: our kids save spaces. It's like, are you talking about 445 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:10,440 Speaker 1: the PTA meeting? Are you talking about like the park? 446 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:11,920 Speaker 1: Like if I go to the park, like, let people 447 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:15,280 Speaker 1: wear what they wanted to Central Park. Maybe even like 448 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:18,720 Speaker 1: maybe I'm going as an adult to ride these motherfucking rides. 449 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:20,800 Speaker 1: I don't care about the kids. I just feel like 450 00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:24,720 Speaker 1: my mother hunt in my kids differently, And if you're 451 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:26,639 Speaker 1: young and you really want to, I want to respect 452 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:28,280 Speaker 1: how people want to raise their kids, you know what 453 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:30,919 Speaker 1: I mean. The only thing I'm gonna say is I 454 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:32,399 Speaker 1: had somebody look at me the other day because I 455 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:34,680 Speaker 1: was saying and I was like, what the fund is 456 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:37,240 Speaker 1: this wrong? And then I look and I said it 457 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:38,840 Speaker 1: out loud, like because she really was staring at me. 458 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:40,159 Speaker 1: I was like, what the fund is her brother and 459 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:42,639 Speaker 1: I looked down and she had a kid. These kids 460 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:47,639 Speaker 1: are on TikTok. They've heard, they've heard big, they've they've 461 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:50,359 Speaker 1: seen some things. Because they now have they start having 462 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 1: iPads and phones from like three or four years old. Bro, 463 00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:55,120 Speaker 1: you're not gonna sit here and tell me I gotta 464 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:59,400 Speaker 1: not talk talk. I apologize. And after I apologize because 465 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:01,160 Speaker 1: I was on the phone all that, I don't even 466 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:05,600 Speaker 1: know how the funk I said, because it's just like 467 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:08,560 Speaker 1: maybe I was making her feel uncomfortable. But with my 468 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:10,080 Speaker 1: friends who have children, I don't know if you guys 469 00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:12,520 Speaker 1: have had this experience a few times with Charter, I'll 470 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:14,560 Speaker 1: be cursing around her daughter and I'm like, I'm sorry. 471 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:16,520 Speaker 1: She's like, oh, this is my fucking house. It's okay. 472 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:19,919 Speaker 1: She can't speak that way, and like that's true. Dear friends, 473 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:21,720 Speaker 1: like care if your cursing friend their kids or anything. 474 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:25,840 Speaker 1: No shout out to Stacy. She just got mad. Uh 475 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:28,200 Speaker 1: I was watching you were talking about Dick in front 476 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:30,160 Speaker 1: of her kid or something. You said It wasn't Dick. 477 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:32,280 Speaker 1: I just said, Todd, all the sign is fine, and 478 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:35,440 Speaker 1: oh he's single now, girl, and I was talking about 479 00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:38,200 Speaker 1: sliding in his DM s her daughter, but it's tied 480 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:40,840 Speaker 1: all the sign. He's fine. How old is her daughter? 481 00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:45,159 Speaker 1: I think she was thirteen at the time. Fourteen, you 482 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:48,800 Speaker 1: know what. But she was like, oh my god, Mandy, 483 00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:52,159 Speaker 1: don't be talking about like about her with men looking 484 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:54,200 Speaker 1: good and guys. And I was like, girls tied out 485 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:57,200 Speaker 1: of sign which we all grew up liking in sync 486 00:24:57,280 --> 00:24:59,719 Speaker 1: and be two k and all. I told you all, 487 00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:03,760 Speaker 1: we I don't think I would give. She was like, girl, Also, 488 00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:06,120 Speaker 1: I'm like hot mess, auntie, you know what I mean? 489 00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:08,320 Speaker 1: Like my friends no shout out to a J and toy. 490 00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:10,720 Speaker 1: I'm the godmother of their son. And I said to 491 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:13,359 Speaker 1: her recently, I got really emotional. They're both She works 492 00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:16,200 Speaker 1: in healthcare right he's in marketing and sales, and they've 493 00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:19,000 Speaker 1: got their own house and they're like this perfect black couple. 494 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:21,640 Speaker 1: And I was like, I feel like I'm a hot 495 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:24,359 Speaker 1: fucking mess. You are, you know? And she was like 496 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:26,600 Speaker 1: she was so sweet. She was like, our son is 497 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 1: gonna know what you do, and we know that he's 498 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:32,520 Speaker 1: going to live a judgment free like life. You know, 499 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:34,520 Speaker 1: I have a judgment free relationship with you and he 500 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:36,399 Speaker 1: can come to you about anything. And that made me 501 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:39,879 Speaker 1: feel so appreciated because I do felt like a hope, 502 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:42,040 Speaker 1: but I want to be a mom's who. I kind 503 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:43,920 Speaker 1: of become the cousin. Like I'm the oldest cousin, but 504 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:45,880 Speaker 1: I've become the cousin that all the other cousins come 505 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:49,959 Speaker 1: to for like sex questions and like straight up when 506 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:52,680 Speaker 1: I came out as By, three other cousins came out 507 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:54,800 Speaker 1: as By. So it was like, this nice way. Is 508 00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:57,240 Speaker 1: that a genetic thing? I don't mean what I think 509 00:25:57,280 --> 00:26:02,440 Speaker 1: so because me and all my sisters, then I feel 510 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:05,560 Speaker 1: like this, I think it's a generational thing. Mandy and 511 00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:08,480 Speaker 1: I when we first reconnected five years ago, I was like, oh, 512 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:10,480 Speaker 1: what's up with one of her sister's names. She was like, 513 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:14,680 Speaker 1: oh girl, she gay as hell now And I was like, 514 00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:17,080 Speaker 1: let me go look at it right, So I click 515 00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:20,639 Speaker 1: on Instagram. I said follow back like, damn, she is gay. 516 00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:29,560 Speaker 1: Let's get into our horde or yes now sex tip 517 00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:31,960 Speaker 1: of the week. I do think we should get pass 518 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:34,200 Speaker 1: it off to you since we're coming as your cousins. 519 00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:36,000 Speaker 1: Think of us all as your cousins. I think it 520 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:38,880 Speaker 1: could be for couples, singles, or maybe even first time 521 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:40,520 Speaker 1: or is at your club, just anything that comes to 522 00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 1: mind that you yeah, I'm the first time I was 523 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:46,800 Speaker 1: coming to the club. Have a conversation with your partner. 524 00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:49,240 Speaker 1: I think it's really important. I think a lot of 525 00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:51,840 Speaker 1: people have gotten kind of used to this idea of like, oh, whatever, 526 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:55,000 Speaker 1: like I'm down for whatever, I'm down for whatever. They 527 00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:57,320 Speaker 1: want to feel like they're they're they're you know, like 528 00:26:57,359 --> 00:27:00,119 Speaker 1: I'm down for whatever, and it's like they are it, 529 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:02,440 Speaker 1: you know. So I think it's very important to get 530 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:05,439 Speaker 1: beyond those kind of like baseline, whatever happens happens, like 531 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:08,080 Speaker 1: let's go with the flow. Stop having those types of 532 00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:11,440 Speaker 1: conversations as vagueness, you would vagueness is not going to 533 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:14,439 Speaker 1: help pick something small, pick some like easy goal like 534 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:17,560 Speaker 1: I'd like to make out with another you know woman tonight. 535 00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:20,879 Speaker 1: I'd like to you know, have like this little experience 536 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:22,520 Speaker 1: and go for that and then if something else happens, 537 00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:24,680 Speaker 1: that's great. But stop with the go with the flow, 538 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:26,960 Speaker 1: stop with whatever you want, Stop with any of those 539 00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:29,520 Speaker 1: conversations like if your partner is doing that to you, 540 00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:32,800 Speaker 1: like stop like no, let's actually I really like I 541 00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:35,520 Speaker 1: like that a lot. I think that, you know, even 542 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:37,960 Speaker 1: Mandy was just saying how she had recently had a 543 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 1: new conversation with her partner who she's been going to 544 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:41,679 Speaker 1: the sex club with for a long time. And I 545 00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:45,359 Speaker 1: like hearing that honesty out of couples, because no, it 546 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:47,680 Speaker 1: can't all be perfect every time you go. There's gonna 547 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:49,520 Speaker 1: be one thing you talk about, right, Like there has 548 00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:51,920 Speaker 1: to be some kind of consent or even checking in. 549 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:55,480 Speaker 1: You know, how's your when you guys leave the club, 550 00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:59,280 Speaker 1: what's your experience? Like? I mean a lot of the 551 00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:01,240 Speaker 1: times it is me and him, I push him to 552 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:04,760 Speaker 1: play um more than I don't normally want to play 553 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:09,000 Speaker 1: with anyone else unless I play with girls. UM. But 554 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:13,199 Speaker 1: we've come to realize we have very different tastes in girls. 555 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:18,119 Speaker 1: It's so different, Like all always go for like the 556 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:23,520 Speaker 1: eccentric girl with piercings or like I like black girls 557 00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:26,720 Speaker 1: like and that's who I'm drawn to every time I 558 00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:30,880 Speaker 1: go to the club. And he'll just be like he 559 00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:33,440 Speaker 1: now starts to know who who I'm looking at before 560 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:35,800 Speaker 1: I even tell him, And I'd be like damn, and 561 00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:38,720 Speaker 1: he's like, I just he knows my type. His type 562 00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:41,800 Speaker 1: is different and so normally I'll just be like, because 563 00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:43,680 Speaker 1: everyone want to climb him. Every time, I'm like, well, 564 00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:48,280 Speaker 1: go for whoever you want. Um, I think we go 565 00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:51,000 Speaker 1: and he wants me to open up more to be 566 00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:54,360 Speaker 1: with other like men, but that's not something I really want, 567 00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:56,840 Speaker 1: so he'll be of course, the men come to him 568 00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 1: with permission, not knowing what we've talked about, and I'm like, well, 569 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:01,640 Speaker 1: thank you for giving him permission, but I don't want 570 00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:04,640 Speaker 1: him so you know what I mean, Like, he'll give 571 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:06,600 Speaker 1: the go because the men aren't respectful to where they'll 572 00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:09,600 Speaker 1: approach him first, to even before they crossed the line, 573 00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:13,000 Speaker 1: because clearly we come together. Everyone sees that were together. Um. 574 00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:15,800 Speaker 1: But I've had to tell him time and time again. 575 00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:18,120 Speaker 1: I'm good, you fucked me enough. I'll be tired. I 576 00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:20,600 Speaker 1: don't want no more. Yeah no, Like with a man 577 00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:23,480 Speaker 1: like that, it's gonna be hard to like it's the 578 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:28,160 Speaker 1: dominant reached the top of the mountain. I don't need 579 00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 1: to spend time. Don't call the other man. Well, I 580 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:38,080 Speaker 1: did have one thing that I thought about, right, um, 581 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:40,040 Speaker 1: when when you were talking today, Like I don't anyone else, 582 00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:43,000 Speaker 1: I don't anyone else. The most dominant guy I've ever 583 00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:46,320 Speaker 1: been with made me feel like that, not because I 584 00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:48,200 Speaker 1: found him those attractive or I was crazy in love 585 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:50,800 Speaker 1: with him, but like there was something about him that 586 00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:53,520 Speaker 1: was making me always submit. Now with old Bay, what's 587 00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:56,480 Speaker 1: interesting is I'm not saying he isn't dominant. I totally 588 00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:59,520 Speaker 1: said about during our sex. He's super sexy. I think 589 00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:01,240 Speaker 1: he's one of the best looking man I've ever sucked. 590 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:03,800 Speaker 1: I love sucking him. I love having three sons with him. 591 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:05,760 Speaker 1: I think I'm more open to it because he's so 592 00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:08,880 Speaker 1: fucking chill, Like he's not like this. I don't even 593 00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:11,400 Speaker 1: see him get like that with other people. Like he's 594 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:13,520 Speaker 1: just really laid back, And I wonder if that is 595 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:15,120 Speaker 1: a little thing in my head that makes it easier 596 00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:17,960 Speaker 1: to be open, because when I've been with dom dom 597 00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:20,360 Speaker 1: dom guys, I'm like, even when they're like you're good 598 00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:24,720 Speaker 1: and be like no, that's the thing too. I think 599 00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:29,920 Speaker 1: it it's funny because it's almost like the don't press 600 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:32,560 Speaker 1: that red button, and because you get told not to 601 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:34,720 Speaker 1: press that red button, you want to do it. And 602 00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:37,280 Speaker 1: so I think because I finally have someone that is 603 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:40,080 Speaker 1: like you can go and have other dick just you know, 604 00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:43,239 Speaker 1: it has to be protected. Don't be emotional to this 605 00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:45,920 Speaker 1: person like, um, now that I know I have the 606 00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:48,640 Speaker 1: freedom to it, just be like, I mean, I'm good, 607 00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:52,320 Speaker 1: I ain't checking for it. Um, yes, so I mean 608 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:56,600 Speaker 1: there are more conversations happening now. Um. And and you 609 00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:59,280 Speaker 1: know going to the club. When we go to the club, 610 00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:01,760 Speaker 1: do we have to together all the time? Can we go? Not? 611 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:04,200 Speaker 1: If you go? Is that something that now you need 612 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:06,800 Speaker 1: to tell me? I mean, these are conversations now, um, 613 00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:08,600 Speaker 1: that are that are coming about because like I said, 614 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:11,760 Speaker 1: you really don't know how you'll react to something until 615 00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:14,840 Speaker 1: it's there. I think it's just growing pains too. In 616 00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:17,600 Speaker 1: the beginning, you're just like yeah, whatever, and then once 617 00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:21,200 Speaker 1: you're really setting into the seriousness of your relationship, now 618 00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:22,800 Speaker 1: you have to tighten it up sometimes because when you're 619 00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:25,000 Speaker 1: so in love, like I really think I forget you 620 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:27,320 Speaker 1: like that, you know what I mean? Like I've been 621 00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:28,960 Speaker 1: so in love with my partner that I remember in 622 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:31,000 Speaker 1: a year and a half, he mustn't heard us talking 623 00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:34,720 Speaker 1: about it. Just all right, let's talk about NSF, did 624 00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:41,200 Speaker 1: you so? Um? I do want to ask your best 625 00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:44,280 Speaker 1: experience at NSFW, because you've had it all, tell us 626 00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:48,080 Speaker 1: about the best night you've ever had at your club. 627 00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:50,160 Speaker 1: I mean there's there's always good nights like we do 628 00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:52,640 Speaker 1: all saying say, which is like my birthday. Everyone dresses 629 00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:56,560 Speaker 1: up religiously. It's like this crazy sacrilegious thing. But recently 630 00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:59,480 Speaker 1: we did a boccus, which is like a Roman orgy 631 00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:02,800 Speaker 1: and too Roman bacchanalia. When that was the one with 632 00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:05,400 Speaker 1: the flowers, Yeah, it was the Festival of Flora, and 633 00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:08,320 Speaker 1: I had like, honestly, I felt like I had another 634 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:11,480 Speaker 1: life experience, Like I felt like I had been at 635 00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:15,800 Speaker 1: this party before, but maybe thousands of years ago. I 636 00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:18,280 Speaker 1: just had like this really strange moment of like I 637 00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:20,000 Speaker 1: feel we did this in the woods once and like 638 00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:25,800 Speaker 1: it just there's elements of it that I was pretty high. 639 00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:27,280 Speaker 1: I feel like I met you in the woods, but 640 00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:29,080 Speaker 1: I feel like I met the words and we were 641 00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:34,640 Speaker 1: all think they were goats last I don't know. It 642 00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:38,960 Speaker 1: was a weird flashback anyway, So I had, but it 643 00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:41,320 Speaker 1: was just beautiful to watch. I think anything that we've 644 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:44,320 Speaker 1: been doing after COVID has felt very, very healing and 645 00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:49,600 Speaker 1: much more um Like I can feel how people's spirits 646 00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:52,600 Speaker 1: are changing, on how people's like feelings towards things are changing, 647 00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:55,280 Speaker 1: and I think people kind of come into the space now. 648 00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:57,280 Speaker 1: You know, initially was like it was just you know, 649 00:32:57,360 --> 00:32:59,120 Speaker 1: freedom and fun and like a great place to go. 650 00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:02,480 Speaker 1: And then through COVID, through the lockdown, through the fear, 651 00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:05,400 Speaker 1: through the trauma, now people coming back into the space. 652 00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:08,800 Speaker 1: I can see how impactful it is. So I feel 653 00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:12,760 Speaker 1: a lot more closer to the membership, lot closer to 654 00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:15,080 Speaker 1: what we're doing and what we're trying to accomplish because 655 00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:18,200 Speaker 1: I'm seeing how impactful it is after such a big trauma. Now, 656 00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:20,480 Speaker 1: let me ask you, because you know it was real 657 00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:25,200 Speaker 1: Judge that I was going to a six club during COVID, Uh, 658 00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:29,400 Speaker 1: what what were the reactions that you felt from members 659 00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:32,280 Speaker 1: or from people in the community that knew that you 660 00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:35,239 Speaker 1: were still open to a sense? I mean, it was 661 00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:37,560 Speaker 1: much more limited. Like I said, when when I was going, 662 00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:42,520 Speaker 1: I appreciated the more twelve to twenty people. Fifteen really 663 00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:45,320 Speaker 1: was was about the average. But now, like I've gone 664 00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:48,320 Speaker 1: on nights and like you said, Max, like eighty people 665 00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:50,360 Speaker 1: in and out. There won't be maybe that many any 666 00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:52,440 Speaker 1: at any one point, but in and out because some 667 00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:55,240 Speaker 1: people like the early times, some people come later and 668 00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:57,920 Speaker 1: now it's it's becoming a lot more. But I want 669 00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:01,120 Speaker 1: to ask you again, circling back, what were people's thoughts. 670 00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:04,640 Speaker 1: Did you get any type of slack for keeping it open? Yeah, 671 00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:06,920 Speaker 1: I mean we opened up during phase four when all 672 00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:08,400 Speaker 1: the other sex clubs in New York we're starting to 673 00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:10,120 Speaker 1: open up, and we were because we just saw that 674 00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:13,600 Speaker 1: in New York. When the other like what does that 675 00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:20,239 Speaker 1: mean indoor dining as well? Indoor dining it into dining. 676 00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:23,520 Speaker 1: I think those coss into dining. I'm pretty sure you're 677 00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:29,600 Speaker 1: eating something, you're eating out, but you're in so no, 678 00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:31,200 Speaker 1: I mean, I think there were some people who were 679 00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:34,760 Speaker 1: concerned when we reopened. It was in communication with the membership. 680 00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:37,560 Speaker 1: Hey for doing this. If you've had COVID, if you 681 00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:39,960 Speaker 1: you feel safe, if you've been in quarantine. I think 682 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:42,560 Speaker 1: for a lot of people like there there's a couple 683 00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:44,400 Speaker 1: of privilege. I was coming through COVID, Like you have 684 00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:46,560 Speaker 1: a partner, you have someone who you're having sex with regularly. 685 00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:48,920 Speaker 1: They have single people who are like six months no touch, 686 00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:51,920 Speaker 1: you know, six months no interaction, six months no sex. 687 00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:54,080 Speaker 1: And for a lot of those people who were being 688 00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:56,919 Speaker 1: responsible and saying home and like this is the only 689 00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:59,600 Speaker 1: other place they're going to, you know, like then it's fine, 690 00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:02,319 Speaker 1: come be here at least be around people and like 691 00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:05,799 Speaker 1: get that feeling. Um, so I was really doing it 692 00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:08,520 Speaker 1: for them, Like I think during COVID, I got a 693 00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:10,600 Speaker 1: lot of those dark messages. I got a lot of 694 00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:13,439 Speaker 1: those you know, people kind of like feeling like it's 695 00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:15,719 Speaker 1: not going to end, feeling like things are getting worse, 696 00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:18,799 Speaker 1: or losing their jobs, or just doing drugs way too much, 697 00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:21,319 Speaker 1: like a lot of excessive drug use through COVID that 698 00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:24,000 Speaker 1: members were kind of you know, joking about. But it's 699 00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:26,680 Speaker 1: also like, you know, it's Monday, like mid afternoon, you 700 00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:29,520 Speaker 1: shouldn't be cooked up right now. So there was a 701 00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:33,320 Speaker 1: lot of things where I was becoming afraid of losing people. 702 00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:35,480 Speaker 1: And I think when you get so close to a 703 00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:37,520 Speaker 1: group people and you're having sex and you're friends of 704 00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:40,560 Speaker 1: friends and everyone's connected, like one loss does ripple and 705 00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:43,040 Speaker 1: it does feel and like early on in COVID, I 706 00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:45,600 Speaker 1: had a friend who died from um overdose, which was 707 00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:47,799 Speaker 1: very very difficult, and it was like the loneliness and 708 00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:49,839 Speaker 1: the sadness. So you know, I know there was people 709 00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:52,399 Speaker 1: who felt like it was unsafe to open but we 710 00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:54,160 Speaker 1: did it in the ways that we could do it 711 00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:56,640 Speaker 1: as safe as possible, so that people at least have 712 00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:59,400 Speaker 1: a place to be, you know, and it's like something familiar, 713 00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:01,759 Speaker 1: like everything was taken away. New York was really really 714 00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:03,919 Speaker 1: New York was really dark, and it was really dark. 715 00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:07,200 Speaker 1: So it's like just a little bit of hope I 716 00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:09,640 Speaker 1: felt was important. You know. We didn't bake much money. 717 00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:11,600 Speaker 1: It was something to just keep it open and do. 718 00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:14,239 Speaker 1: But um, I don't know, I think when you're getting 719 00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:17,839 Speaker 1: those that too. Yeah, Like it felt embarrassing to admit that. 720 00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:20,560 Speaker 1: I didn't realize how much of my identity was not 721 00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:23,560 Speaker 1: going out but more social interaction. And when we moved 722 00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:26,600 Speaker 1: to Mexico, Um, I mean, granted, it was cheapest to 723 00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:28,040 Speaker 1: live there, right, so it wasn't like it was this 724 00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:30,560 Speaker 1: big elaborate thing. But I went to a jungle party. 725 00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:32,640 Speaker 1: Maybe fifty people were there. I was holding hands with 726 00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:34,400 Speaker 1: people I didn't know. I wasn't even high. I'm like, 727 00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:36,840 Speaker 1: I know I did get high them, right, but it 728 00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:39,400 Speaker 1: was really like, oh my god, Like we get to 729 00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:41,239 Speaker 1: hear music, we get to be together. When you're that 730 00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:44,800 Speaker 1: person and it's taken from you. Even with us Mandy 731 00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:48,400 Speaker 1: and I were touring, bro like, we really enjoy our fans, 732 00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:51,839 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, and a lot of people know, 733 00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:55,480 Speaker 1: you know, we argue and fight a lot, and the 734 00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:59,840 Speaker 1: fucking fans really hold us together. So it was just 735 00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:05,439 Speaker 1: co I'm surprised the show made it through. We would 736 00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:08,480 Speaker 1: talking through lawyers a couple of months. I hated her. 737 00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:12,160 Speaker 1: Then yeah it was now that part's over and yeah 738 00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:15,440 Speaker 1: we're not there anywhere, but like, no, it feels really 739 00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:18,120 Speaker 1: crazy when that is taken from you, and like I 740 00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:20,080 Speaker 1: could see that it sounds very frivo list. I could 741 00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:23,360 Speaker 1: understand again why people think it's frivolous. It's like but 742 00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:25,560 Speaker 1: even for me, like I had such a fucking like 743 00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:28,759 Speaker 1: just Cliff, you know, like doing you know, we do 744 00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:30,680 Speaker 1: three parties a week. It's like three sex parties. That 745 00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:33,680 Speaker 1: energy is like they're three nights a week for five years, 746 00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:36,399 Speaker 1: like over five sex parties that I've hosted. And then 747 00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:39,080 Speaker 1: she just feel like, yeah, we've hostedly, we've been around 748 00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:42,160 Speaker 1: for five years. Three parties a week, you know, it's 749 00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:44,560 Speaker 1: it's a lot, and plus sometimes five parties a week, 750 00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:47,480 Speaker 1: like you know, we're constantly developing into doing, so you know, 751 00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:50,440 Speaker 1: to go from that feeling of like that energy. It's 752 00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:52,840 Speaker 1: like it's like a battery. It feels like every party 753 00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:55,640 Speaker 1: like it recharges you. And it's like to see people happy, 754 00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:57,840 Speaker 1: to see people sexually, happy to see people exploring, to 755 00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:00,400 Speaker 1: see people you know on their sexual journe is like 756 00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:03,680 Speaker 1: really flourishing. And then to cut that all off for me, 757 00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:08,240 Speaker 1: it was like ship some crazy ship. So um, tonight 758 00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:11,120 Speaker 1: Your Sex Sells episode premieres. Hopefully we're all watching at 759 00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:15,799 Speaker 1: the clubhouse together. In there literally the conversation had so 760 00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:20,120 Speaker 1: Daniel is the only episode where it is no celebrities, 761 00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:23,840 Speaker 1: completely one business. Okay, I really and we all felt 762 00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:26,800 Speaker 1: like we have to explore this right. People think it's illegal, 763 00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:30,319 Speaker 1: and I want you to talk about that because it 764 00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:33,680 Speaker 1: seems like we're always being secretive about it. Even in 765 00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:36,240 Speaker 1: this moment, we're being secretive about It's not like you 766 00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:37,960 Speaker 1: want to go to the clubhouse. And I was like, 767 00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:47,120 Speaker 1: can I say, but like, is there a yeah, can 768 00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:51,200 Speaker 1: you tell us about how is this fucking place legal? Yeah? 769 00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:53,480 Speaker 1: I mean, look, the government has no right to tell 770 00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:55,160 Speaker 1: you how you should fuck and who you should suck 771 00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:56,480 Speaker 1: and how many of those people you should sork at 772 00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:59,600 Speaker 1: one time. That's it like your bedroom is your you know, 773 00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:03,239 Speaker 1: your your bedroom is your space. I mean, there's there's regulations, 774 00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:05,320 Speaker 1: there's laws, there's things that you have to put in place. 775 00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:08,279 Speaker 1: We operate as a private member's club. Because of that, 776 00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:11,399 Speaker 1: we have different rules that we have to kind of follow. Um, 777 00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:14,160 Speaker 1: it's almost like operating a golf club and it's legal 778 00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:18,000 Speaker 1: because you don't charge for sex. Yeah exactly. But even now, 779 00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:21,360 Speaker 1: like now prostitution and massage polers are not getting criminalized 780 00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:23,439 Speaker 1: in New York. You know, there's a lot more talk 781 00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:27,160 Speaker 1: around you know, actual decriminalization and prostitution becoming legal. So 782 00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:29,680 Speaker 1: there is even if we did do that, it still 783 00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:33,320 Speaker 1: wouldn't be illegal technically, or we still wouldn't get prosecuted 784 00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:35,800 Speaker 1: for it. Um. It more falls into like random stuff 785 00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:37,600 Speaker 1: like trafficking if you like, bring someone from another state 786 00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:39,840 Speaker 1: and stuff. So here's the thing with with the sex 787 00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:43,560 Speaker 1: club that I was going The sex club that I 788 00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:47,080 Speaker 1: was going to beforehand wasn't members only. So are there 789 00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:50,840 Speaker 1: different guidelines from something that's maybe just more secretive. Would 790 00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:53,120 Speaker 1: that be considered illegal because that is the one that 791 00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:56,400 Speaker 1: I mean, they had COVID violations with so many people. 792 00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:59,680 Speaker 1: But I want to know then, how does a member's 793 00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:04,120 Speaker 1: only situation differ legally from one that is not members only? 794 00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:06,440 Speaker 1: I mean nothing in particular. It's more about you know, 795 00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:10,319 Speaker 1: getting city approval for opening up spaces. So when it's 796 00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:12,719 Speaker 1: a private members club, when it's members only, you can 797 00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:15,319 Speaker 1: operate out of like live work spaces for places that 798 00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:17,799 Speaker 1: you live in, which gives you certain legal protections, like 799 00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:21,080 Speaker 1: they can't just bust into your home and what's going on. 800 00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:24,080 Speaker 1: So those things kind of protect us. But if it's 801 00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:26,520 Speaker 1: a you know, a club on the street, like a 802 00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:29,240 Speaker 1: Caligula or something like that, like they have a liquor license, 803 00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:31,600 Speaker 1: they have like parties, they have things coming in, they 804 00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:33,800 Speaker 1: have regulations, have to worry about with the fire department, 805 00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:37,120 Speaker 1: they have zoning rules that they have to consider because 806 00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:41,920 Speaker 1: of the way I didn't. Have you ever had a 807 00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:44,440 Speaker 1: cop knock on the door and have no idea that 808 00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:45,960 Speaker 1: what you're doing is legal. Have you had to teach 809 00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:48,880 Speaker 1: a cop before? I mean I've been arrested, Like honestly, 810 00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:51,440 Speaker 1: we got rated in the old clubhouse. The cops like 811 00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:54,840 Speaker 1: came in without a warrant. The fire like someone from 812 00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:56,600 Speaker 1: acting like they were from the fire department came in 813 00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:59,359 Speaker 1: and then invited like forty cops to like walk through 814 00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:02,239 Speaker 1: our space. These fucking police officers walked through. They were 815 00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:05,680 Speaker 1: like this must be his rape room. Like like really, 816 00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:08,040 Speaker 1: they were like, this man needs Jesus. He needs to 817 00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:12,399 Speaker 1: go to God already, Like me and Jesus are good. 818 00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:15,200 Speaker 1: Was really saying that. Yeah, I know, it was disgusting. 819 00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:17,279 Speaker 1: It was like it was just forty police officers just 820 00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:20,120 Speaker 1: kind of raided through and we didn't have anything illegal happening, 821 00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:22,200 Speaker 1: but I had like a little bit of weed inside 822 00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:25,160 Speaker 1: my bag. And then before the localization, no, no, it 823 00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:27,399 Speaker 1: was legal New York being to decriminalized for a while 824 00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:29,759 Speaker 1: in terms of animis, they're not supposed to prosecute, but 825 00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:31,640 Speaker 1: they that's what they got me on. So like we're 826 00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:34,959 Speaker 1: going to rescue for this weed like an ounce were 827 00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:37,200 Speaker 1: was it open or was there a party going on? No, 828 00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:40,400 Speaker 1: this was me alone in the clubhouse. Them rating in 829 00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:43,240 Speaker 1: forty police officers without a warrant coming through the space, 830 00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:46,520 Speaker 1: looking through everything, took all our equipment, hook card computers, 831 00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:50,040 Speaker 1: took all this ship, arrested me and like said it 832 00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:52,799 Speaker 1: was a rape room. Yeah, they were like this must 833 00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:54,920 Speaker 1: be his rape room. As safe as you try to 834 00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:56,960 Speaker 1: keep people that would have that would have hurt my feelingly. Yeah, 835 00:41:57,200 --> 00:41:59,439 Speaker 1: it was really hurtful. And like you know, they got 836 00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:01,600 Speaker 1: you know, arrested on something stupid and then I have 837 00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:04,000 Speaker 1: to like go to jail. Was in like jail for 838 00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:06,040 Speaker 1: like twenty four hours almost, and like you know, I 839 00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:07,719 Speaker 1: had to deal with all legal fees and everything else 840 00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:09,000 Speaker 1: like that. It got us kicked out of the space 841 00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:12,640 Speaker 1: because they're like, you're operating like illegal operations with drugs 842 00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:14,439 Speaker 1: and it's like I had some pot in my bag, 843 00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:16,319 Speaker 1: Like you need to like calm the funk down. This 844 00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:19,680 Speaker 1: is obviously a gross misuse of power. Um, But that's 845 00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:21,960 Speaker 1: how it is sometimes, I think for this space now, 846 00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:24,600 Speaker 1: because you know, we were very good friends with the building, 847 00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:26,680 Speaker 1: we're very good friends with the owners. Like we've been 848 00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:28,439 Speaker 1: operating now for a year and a half. We haven't 849 00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:31,040 Speaker 1: had a single issue with police officers, um. And then 850 00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:33,120 Speaker 1: we just got smarter about it where we just invited 851 00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:34,920 Speaker 1: more police officers to be members, and that's kind of 852 00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:37,320 Speaker 1: protected us. You said, y'all can just come here and 853 00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:39,680 Speaker 1: get your dick sets and leave us alone, you know what, 854 00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:43,279 Speaker 1: take your badge off or make it a little day. Now. 855 00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:45,160 Speaker 1: It's like if you invite someone police, and they were like, 856 00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:47,200 Speaker 1: let you know, like, okay, here's what's going on in 857 00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:49,560 Speaker 1: the area, here's what's being said. But we, you know, 858 00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:51,759 Speaker 1: we keep the noise low. That's the main reason that 859 00:42:51,800 --> 00:43:01,520 Speaker 1: they would ever come. And I put this is music. 860 00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:07,920 Speaker 1: I was like, you do be having a good music, Okay, 861 00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:10,680 Speaker 1: So I want to know about an accident or an 862 00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:13,760 Speaker 1: injury that's happening in Has a doctor ever been fucking 863 00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:15,799 Speaker 1: they had to run over and help somebody, Like what 864 00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:18,719 Speaker 1: kind of injuries have happened? Not miss stuck and you 865 00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:20,480 Speaker 1: had to help get it out of anything like that. 866 00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:23,000 Speaker 1: You imagine there's some crazy things we don't have. The 867 00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:27,040 Speaker 1: super Bowl fell. Oh my god, it's actually happened recently. No, 868 00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:29,920 Speaker 1: some girl like kind of like ran up and jumped 869 00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:32,400 Speaker 1: on it or something and like kind of pulled it 870 00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:34,839 Speaker 1: down and like that thing came down and it has 871 00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:37,319 Speaker 1: like this big disc and I just like watch it 872 00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:39,840 Speaker 1: fall maybe like six inches away from a couple of 873 00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:43,560 Speaker 1: fucking I was like, you could have fucking decapitated someone 874 00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:49,920 Speaker 1: Like this is scary. Yeah, that was bad. No, you 875 00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:55,880 Speaker 1: running now, we don't leave it up anymore. It's like 876 00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:58,759 Speaker 1: it goes out for performances. It comes down out of 877 00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:01,520 Speaker 1: the performances. Yeah, they kept it like they almost died 878 00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:05,080 Speaker 1: and she's still coming and I'm like, good for you, girl, 879 00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:08,840 Speaker 1: good for you. I think we said she you liked that. 880 00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:12,560 Speaker 1: Didn't you feel like you wanted to die before? She 881 00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:16,359 Speaker 1: wanted to be drowned or something? I remember you, I said, 882 00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:21,839 Speaker 1: I can see how how people like like I said, 883 00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:25,000 Speaker 1: she said she wanted to be trown? Did Jamaica or something? 884 00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:31,239 Speaker 1: Want being Jamaica water? We had it was aquaphilia? Was 885 00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:33,200 Speaker 1: that it again? We did a kink of the week. 886 00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:34,560 Speaker 1: I was like, I could see if you're working in 887 00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:37,480 Speaker 1: the water. And then I think we came up and 888 00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:40,439 Speaker 1: then you just like not like a little in and out. 889 00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:44,000 Speaker 1: She's like, you want to die? Mandy Ryan is the 890 00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:47,000 Speaker 1: way extreme ship all the time. For example, what do 891 00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:48,960 Speaker 1: I do? I say I have sex in my period? 892 00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:59,880 Speaker 1: She's like, wheezy and comes your blood plain night was 893 00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:05,280 Speaker 1: said another one. Bitch doing me like that, bro, because 894 00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:09,120 Speaker 1: this is how you say because I just received she 895 00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:11,959 Speaker 1: said in front of sucking scissors one time, Um, who's 896 00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:14,759 Speaker 1: my ex girlfriend? We call her scissors? Happen? We were like, 897 00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:17,000 Speaker 1: uh when she came in we shout out to Tye. 898 00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:19,520 Speaker 1: We read his studio a few times recording to Harlem 899 00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:20,920 Speaker 1: and she walked in. She was like, she's beating your 900 00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:28,839 Speaker 1: pussy in her period that Yeah. She was just like, 901 00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:31,480 Speaker 1: what do you mean telling her it's okay? It's no 902 00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:34,239 Speaker 1: worse than fucking fellon Bay coming to a live show 903 00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:38,239 Speaker 1: and she's saying, oh, you're felling Bay, Bro, you call 904 00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:40,239 Speaker 1: this nigga fell into his face. I don't call him 905 00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:45,360 Speaker 1: a fell into his face. I said felling Bay because 906 00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:47,239 Speaker 1: people come up to my boyfriend maybe like, or are 907 00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:49,359 Speaker 1: you old Bay, old Bay. It's not as bad as 908 00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:54,280 Speaker 1: talking about someone's criminal record, literally what you are? Or old? 909 00:45:56,040 --> 00:46:00,320 Speaker 1: Are you not? Old? Bro? Was old? We was in 910 00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:06,279 Speaker 1: our twenties and everything, man, So we didn't give my 911 00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:08,880 Speaker 1: nigga nickname. Oh Bay, Bro, do you know how? And 912 00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:10,879 Speaker 1: people the first thing they say like, oh my god, 913 00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:13,840 Speaker 1: you do not eat my nigga. My man. My boyfriend 914 00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:19,520 Speaker 1: Treay when we hid. One of the girls at the 915 00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:24,759 Speaker 1: club calls him Refrigerator because he's like as big as 916 00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:27,000 Speaker 1: the refrigerator and his sex. Bro, this is him. He 917 00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:30,200 Speaker 1: does not look for D three, obviously, but Mandy fucking 918 00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:34,080 Speaker 1: calls him old bay and it's like, brat, I mind 919 00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:36,320 Speaker 1: the fact that we don't have a nickname for her boyfriend. 920 00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:39,120 Speaker 1: Lisa Anne is here and I'm like, oh my god. 921 00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:40,839 Speaker 1: Maybe I'm like pleasen't like her say my nigg again, 922 00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:43,359 Speaker 1: me my nigga, And I'm like, oh, I can't say 923 00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:45,640 Speaker 1: nigga because she white on the couch. I sometimes that's 924 00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:49,040 Speaker 1: not uncomfortable when like they know they can't say it. Yeah, 925 00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:53,279 Speaker 1: that's it's really important. I want to make them feel uncomfortable. 926 00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:56,800 Speaker 1: Maybe people feel uncomfortable with all of our lives and 927 00:46:56,960 --> 00:46:58,880 Speaker 1: Lisa sitting there, like when I have sex with brothers, 928 00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:08,800 Speaker 1: she said, with her, we want to have lunch. She 929 00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:13,839 Speaker 1: did this whole like we did Smar erotica, where it's 930 00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:15,879 Speaker 1: like we had to been adorable with that. She was great. 931 00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:17,879 Speaker 1: We wrote the scripts of their porn, so we found 932 00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:19,480 Speaker 1: one of their best scenes and like wrote this whole 933 00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:21,399 Speaker 1: erotic story around it, and then they had to read 934 00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:23,799 Speaker 1: it while it was like playing behind them and herd 935 00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:27,439 Speaker 1: just spilling all the secrets of like what's happening behind 936 00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:30,279 Speaker 1: the scenes, like this guy who are never fucking real life, 937 00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:35,560 Speaker 1: like just straight up like damn, she is so tiny, 938 00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:38,280 Speaker 1: and adorable and she I don't know who she reminds 939 00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:39,759 Speaker 1: me of her. I don't want to use the word. 940 00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:43,120 Speaker 1: It's very like sisterly, like whenever she's excited about something, 941 00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:46,239 Speaker 1: she would touch many. You can say Aunty. I was 942 00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:53,600 Speaker 1: gonna say that. I was. I was like Aunty, making 943 00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:59,520 Speaker 1: Auntie negative. I don't like anyway technically, really, Auntie, have 944 00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:02,960 Speaker 1: you ever been embarrassed in front of your members? Yes? 945 00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:06,440 Speaker 1: All the time? Nice, you know, I mean I think 946 00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:10,680 Speaker 1: like there's like the experience of nice early on, and 947 00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:14,000 Speaker 1: now the experience now. It's like like if I start 948 00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:17,279 Speaker 1: having sex, I like almost know there's going to be 949 00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:20,719 Speaker 1: a crowd around afterwards, which feels a little bit like 950 00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:23,320 Speaker 1: because it's you. Yeah, it's a little intimidating. People like 951 00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:25,160 Speaker 1: cheer you on and stuff. And it's like I don't 952 00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:28,600 Speaker 1: mind that so much, but like I don't want that. 953 00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:32,040 Speaker 1: He's like, focus on your own stuff. But sometimes it's 954 00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:39,440 Speaker 1: like a little like sometimes something they do they do 955 00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:41,880 Speaker 1: form like like a little moment. That's why I have 956 00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:44,280 Speaker 1: sex in the back rooms. I'm like, I sneak around. 957 00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:50,840 Speaker 1: I'll be in the bathroom where you were. Let there'll 958 00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:53,200 Speaker 1: be in his crotch, or like we like we've played 959 00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:57,160 Speaker 1: and he's noticed crowds form sometimes around us, and he's 960 00:48:57,239 --> 00:49:00,120 Speaker 1: just like, because you're in action, Oh yeah, we've like 961 00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:02,600 Speaker 1: he knows every time I come from in action, Um, 962 00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:04,440 Speaker 1: most of most of the part, the last couple of times. 963 00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:08,960 Speaker 1: Every time I that every time I arrive, I will 964 00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:12,440 Speaker 1: say for Daniel. If I go in and know I 965 00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:16,520 Speaker 1: have the opportunity to deal with another man, it's always 966 00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:18,600 Speaker 1: a man that's there for Daniel, and I'd be like, God, 967 00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:20,840 Speaker 1: damn this they I don't even want me here for Daniel. 968 00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:25,720 Speaker 1: Daniel be dealing with some fine as men. My god, 969 00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:28,160 Speaker 1: I've noticed one. I did. I did make out with 970 00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:31,920 Speaker 1: one of your booze. But but they just be so 971 00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:35,799 Speaker 1: good looking, Like, damn you you just be pulling them, don't. 972 00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:38,160 Speaker 1: I'll be giving him my five. Have you ever had 973 00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:43,480 Speaker 1: the fight over you? Literally? I think we had somebody 974 00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:53,000 Speaker 1: on Jesus all write yours. Oh wait all right, and 975 00:49:53,080 --> 00:49:59,120 Speaker 1: if you want to come take them into Mark so um, 976 00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:01,839 Speaker 1: I mean the list of people we wanted on sex cells, right, 977 00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:03,880 Speaker 1: people we had to have on Oh, I already know 978 00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:05,520 Speaker 1: who you're talking about. No, No, I'm not gonna say 979 00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:08,480 Speaker 1: that person name but Daniel Um then gave them it 980 00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:10,560 Speaker 1: was very helpful, gave a list. They were like, hey, 981 00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:12,160 Speaker 1: we're kind of still looking for this person or some 982 00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:13,920 Speaker 1: of the people weren't available right like King Nawa and 983 00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:16,880 Speaker 1: Jazz couldn't make it, and so he was making a 984 00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:18,360 Speaker 1: short list as well. He was like, these people are 985 00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:20,320 Speaker 1: great in the community and he was helping out Fuse 986 00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:24,520 Speaker 1: Fuse is an interview with one that they then called me. 987 00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:26,200 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, I saw that he put this down 988 00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:28,400 Speaker 1: and we're gonna go with them. They're like, well, we 989 00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:32,319 Speaker 1: interviewed this person and they were just very emotional about 990 00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:37,759 Speaker 1: Daniel a lot to say, and like literally one of 991 00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:39,960 Speaker 1: the producers like we couldn't even ask them a question 992 00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:42,880 Speaker 1: outside of Daniel and they would just bring it right 993 00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:45,000 Speaker 1: back up. And she was like, so we think we're 994 00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:48,720 Speaker 1: going to remove them from the list. I was like, okay, 995 00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:52,480 Speaker 1: falling in love with you, I don't mean it's not intentional, 996 00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:59,759 Speaker 1: that's what he sent you the list. Yeah, we can't. 997 00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:01,920 Speaker 1: We're just so we'll just go on the one underneath. 998 00:51:04,239 --> 00:51:07,920 Speaker 1: That's funny. No, I will say, like I love the 999 00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:11,680 Speaker 1: freedom that you have Um as someone who's bisexual, to 1000 00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:14,239 Speaker 1: have your partners not only be aware of each other, 1001 00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:17,359 Speaker 1: be in the same rooms together. You do show each 1002 00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:19,560 Speaker 1: of them attention as much as you can. But what 1003 00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:23,839 Speaker 1: about your boyfriend? Wild and my boyfriends just got back. 1004 00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:26,279 Speaker 1: Probably shouldn't talk about him, but I will say that 1005 00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:29,880 Speaker 1: we're working through certain things good because he's fine. I 1006 00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:31,640 Speaker 1: know he's helping people and I love him. He's like 1007 00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:35,279 Speaker 1: he's an amazing person and I really do like love him. Um, 1008 00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:38,080 Speaker 1: but yeah, it's like he's been away in Saint Martin, 1009 00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:40,719 Speaker 1: like he's still not here, so it's really hard to 1010 00:51:40,760 --> 00:51:42,560 Speaker 1: do the long distance and then to come back here 1011 00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:45,480 Speaker 1: after like three months not being here, Like all right, 1012 00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:47,040 Speaker 1: I need to give you the roster, like I need 1013 00:51:47,120 --> 00:51:49,800 Speaker 1: to like go through like here's everyone, like you know, 1014 00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:53,040 Speaker 1: getting more comfortable with that and I use first experience 1015 00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:55,239 Speaker 1: with openness. No, No, he was probably before and we 1016 00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:56,839 Speaker 1: were dating when I was like, you know, I had 1017 00:51:56,920 --> 00:51:59,600 Speaker 1: my fiance and stuff, like we were sot dating. So 1018 00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:03,000 Speaker 1: like I've always had multiple partners and stuff, some more 1019 00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:04,840 Speaker 1: serious than others, but this one in particular is like 1020 00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:07,920 Speaker 1: more serious. So it's kind of navigating through and like 1021 00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:10,120 Speaker 1: dealing with those things of jealousy and those feelings and 1022 00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:14,600 Speaker 1: do you ever get it? I mean, I don't. I 1023 00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:17,560 Speaker 1: think like, once someone's like not interested in me or 1024 00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:20,000 Speaker 1: it doesn't feel interested in me, I let them go 1025 00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:22,880 Speaker 1: like I'm not I'm not someone to be like, oh, 1026 00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:25,680 Speaker 1: I'm so upset. I'm like, I'm happy for them finding someone, 1027 00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:28,440 Speaker 1: you know, I'm happy for them kind of being with someone. Eventually, 1028 00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:30,800 Speaker 1: I do want to have like my two partners, my 1029 00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:34,480 Speaker 1: husband and wife. I want to have like I was 1030 00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:37,040 Speaker 1: like when he said eventually I want to have I 1031 00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:40,719 Speaker 1: was ready for like my my two partners. I still 1032 00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:44,200 Speaker 1: he really said it was like it was a be singular. 1033 00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:51,560 Speaker 1: While we're speaking of bi sexuality before we get out 1034 00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:53,440 Speaker 1: of here, and of course we want you have another 1035 00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:54,920 Speaker 1: show coming and we want to talk more about and 1036 00:52:54,920 --> 00:52:56,920 Speaker 1: a stuff debut at the end. But I wanted to 1037 00:52:56,960 --> 00:52:59,160 Speaker 1: get to our homemail because this is what I've been 1038 00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:02,279 Speaker 1: trying to actually do and we just haven't made. It's 1039 00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:04,279 Speaker 1: a wholemail and so long, so I wanted to have 1040 00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:07,200 Speaker 1: this one specifically with you. UM again, if you guys 1041 00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:10,360 Speaker 1: have any hope, confessions or homemail that you want to 1042 00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:12,360 Speaker 1: send to us, be sure to send it to Horrible 1043 00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:17,239 Speaker 1: Decisions at gmail dot com. Uh. This one reads, my 1044 00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:21,160 Speaker 1: boyfriend is bisexual. Hi Mandy, and Wheezy love all that 1045 00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:22,920 Speaker 1: you do. Your podcast is probably one of the best 1046 00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:26,000 Speaker 1: things to ever come into my life. So I am 1047 00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:29,560 Speaker 1: a thirty year old bisexual black woman living in the Midwest. 1048 00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:32,800 Speaker 1: I am in a long distance relationship since December of 1049 00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:35,200 Speaker 1: last year, and my partner is a thirty two year 1050 00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:38,680 Speaker 1: old bisexual mail living on the West Coast. The distance 1051 00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:40,400 Speaker 1: is tough, but we've been making it work and this 1052 00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:42,760 Speaker 1: is the happiest I've been in a while. My partner 1053 00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:46,279 Speaker 1: has always been in non monogamous or swinger relationships, so 1054 00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:49,400 Speaker 1: meeting each other was a curveball neither one of us expected. 1055 00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:52,440 Speaker 1: I'd like to think that because of this podcast, I 1056 00:53:52,560 --> 00:53:55,080 Speaker 1: was very receptive to try my hand in the quote 1057 00:53:55,160 --> 00:53:58,640 Speaker 1: unquote lifestyle, especially since the distance will only allow us 1058 00:53:58,680 --> 00:54:00,319 Speaker 1: to see each other three to four times a year 1059 00:54:00,719 --> 00:54:03,760 Speaker 1: and we both have needs. We agreed to be ethically 1060 00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:06,520 Speaker 1: non monogamous, but neither one of us would try to 1061 00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:09,960 Speaker 1: form other relationships outside of each other. Just sex and 1062 00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:13,160 Speaker 1: fun was the arrangement. Other than that. My partner had 1063 00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:16,520 Speaker 1: no stipulations and my only stipulation was that we would 1064 00:54:16,560 --> 00:54:20,560 Speaker 1: only have unprotected sex with each other. So during our 1065 00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:23,400 Speaker 1: last in person meet up, my partner admitted to me 1066 00:54:23,719 --> 00:54:26,040 Speaker 1: that he didn't think he could promise that all of 1067 00:54:26,120 --> 00:54:28,560 Speaker 1: his encounters would be protected, and he wanted to be 1068 00:54:28,640 --> 00:54:31,520 Speaker 1: honest about it. Although I appreciate the honesty, it kind 1069 00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:33,920 Speaker 1: of blew my high from this arrangement because I want 1070 00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:36,239 Speaker 1: us to be able to have the nastiest unprotected sex 1071 00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:38,880 Speaker 1: we want when we do see each other. So I 1072 00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:41,400 Speaker 1: need some help from you, lovely ladies. Should I just 1073 00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:43,800 Speaker 1: be cool with his candor and accept that we'll have 1074 00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:46,440 Speaker 1: protected sex when we see each other, or do you 1075 00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:49,080 Speaker 1: guys have some advice to offer so we can navigate 1076 00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:52,200 Speaker 1: around this boundary. I should also probably note that he 1077 00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:54,480 Speaker 1: is heavy in the lifestyle and party scene on the 1078 00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:58,200 Speaker 1: West Coast, which you which usually involves a lot of drugs, 1079 00:54:58,520 --> 00:55:01,839 Speaker 1: and with that, uh, his inhibitions are usually lowered, which 1080 00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:04,239 Speaker 1: he's also admitted. I love you ladies, keep up the 1081 00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:06,160 Speaker 1: dote work and can't wait to come to a life show. 1082 00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:11,040 Speaker 1: So again, this was a conversation me and my partner had, 1083 00:55:11,120 --> 00:55:14,600 Speaker 1: like there is no unprotected sex happening with anyone else. Um, 1084 00:55:15,080 --> 00:55:16,759 Speaker 1: I guess I want to leave this to you as 1085 00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:20,279 Speaker 1: someone who has multiple partners, and if you have the 1086 00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:26,239 Speaker 1: conversation regarding protection non PROTECTIONID bond, you know, what would 1087 00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:28,600 Speaker 1: that conversation be and what advice would you give to her? 1088 00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:30,920 Speaker 1: I mean, I think like, if her partner is going 1089 00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:34,040 Speaker 1: to be engaging in you know, fluid bonding with other people, 1090 00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:36,799 Speaker 1: are having sex without protection, it's very important for them 1091 00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:38,759 Speaker 1: to agree to get tested before they see each other. 1092 00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:41,400 Speaker 1: I think, like him, if they know when they're going 1093 00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:42,799 Speaker 1: to see each other and no where even travel out 1094 00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:44,920 Speaker 1: to each other, So just make sure a week or 1095 00:55:44,920 --> 00:55:47,280 Speaker 1: two before you're getting tested, you know what your status 1096 00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:50,520 Speaker 1: is coming into the situation, not bringing STDs, not bringing 1097 00:55:50,600 --> 00:55:53,000 Speaker 1: things into the relationship. I feel that's going to be 1098 00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:55,200 Speaker 1: one of the key things that will keep her feeling 1099 00:55:55,280 --> 00:55:56,800 Speaker 1: a little bit more comfortable with the fact that you 1100 00:55:56,920 --> 00:55:59,960 Speaker 1: might be doing that. Um. But yeah, I think it's 1101 00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:02,880 Speaker 1: really a batter of being honest about what your status 1102 00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:04,800 Speaker 1: is and knowing what your status is. If he's engaging 1103 00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:09,200 Speaker 1: and having sex on a regular basis without condoms, without protection, like, 1104 00:56:09,480 --> 00:56:11,680 Speaker 1: is he on prep? Is he like actually doing the 1105 00:56:11,719 --> 00:56:14,440 Speaker 1: work to make sure he's keeping himself safe. Um? I 1106 00:56:14,520 --> 00:56:16,240 Speaker 1: think that's going to be the key for the relationship. 1107 00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:18,520 Speaker 1: They're gonna make it work. I don't see them having 1108 00:56:18,600 --> 00:56:20,840 Speaker 1: to like have only protected sex, because that's going to 1109 00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:23,640 Speaker 1: reduce their connection. That's going to reduce their bond together. 1110 00:56:23,880 --> 00:56:26,880 Speaker 1: It'd be better just to like get tested beforehand. Be ready, No, 1111 00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:29,640 Speaker 1: it's coming up, you know, keep your in your pants 1112 00:56:29,719 --> 00:56:31,640 Speaker 1: for like a week or two. You're coming to see me. 1113 00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:34,080 Speaker 1: Make sure that you have like kind of that dedicated field. 1114 00:56:34,120 --> 00:56:37,160 Speaker 1: But um, yeah, more so now than ever, Like there's 1115 00:56:37,160 --> 00:56:40,439 Speaker 1: fewer and fewer people using protection, using condoms. Um there's 1116 00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:42,160 Speaker 1: there's not as much of an activity in that, so 1117 00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:44,239 Speaker 1: you're going to have more of those risks as a 1118 00:56:44,280 --> 00:56:46,440 Speaker 1: matter of like mitigating and managing those risks as best 1119 00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:48,640 Speaker 1: as possible. I like that he was honest with her, 1120 00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:51,960 Speaker 1: But my fear is and I think her emails really 1121 00:56:52,239 --> 00:56:55,279 Speaker 1: like well written because she didn't even have to like 1122 00:56:56,280 --> 00:57:00,200 Speaker 1: you know, not that I mean, like, let's just she 1123 00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:02,560 Speaker 1: had a reaction that was to like, well, fuck you. 1124 00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:05,480 Speaker 1: Then he's gonna start lying when he doesn't, and that's 1125 00:57:05,560 --> 00:57:07,239 Speaker 1: what you just don't want to happen. You're gonna suck 1126 00:57:07,280 --> 00:57:10,360 Speaker 1: somebody else for all. Okay, But if you're lying about it. 1127 00:57:10,520 --> 00:57:12,680 Speaker 1: That's how you start spreading STDs because then you take 1128 00:57:12,719 --> 00:57:15,960 Speaker 1: away my choice, you know. So I think that's key. 1129 00:57:16,040 --> 00:57:20,160 Speaker 1: It's like, you know, it's yeah, it would be better 1130 00:57:20,200 --> 00:57:22,720 Speaker 1: if he was more responsible and just follow the rules 1131 00:57:22,760 --> 00:57:24,439 Speaker 1: and kept to what it is. But if she's seeing 1132 00:57:24,440 --> 00:57:26,120 Speaker 1: that's a problem, she's seen, it's not gonna be something 1133 00:57:26,160 --> 00:57:28,360 Speaker 1: that he's going to be able to do. Create other 1134 00:57:28,640 --> 00:57:30,880 Speaker 1: things that would work, you know. And if it's about protection, 1135 00:57:30,920 --> 00:57:33,280 Speaker 1: if it's about not getting st I, then make it 1136 00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:35,720 Speaker 1: about that and say like okay, get tested, make sure 1137 00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:38,760 Speaker 1: you're good, then come here. Then let's have a good time. Um. 1138 00:57:39,160 --> 00:57:41,720 Speaker 1: But yeah, I think people get a little bit. You 1139 00:57:41,720 --> 00:57:43,480 Speaker 1: can get caught up on the fluid aspect, like you 1140 00:57:43,560 --> 00:57:45,760 Speaker 1: shared something with someone else without me, or like you 1141 00:57:45,880 --> 00:57:48,680 Speaker 1: shared this fluid, and it becomes that stigma of the STI. 1142 00:57:48,760 --> 00:57:50,840 Speaker 1: It becomes that stigma of like that stronger connection and 1143 00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:54,160 Speaker 1: stronger bond, Like your com has chemicals that cause brain 1144 00:57:54,200 --> 00:57:55,880 Speaker 1: reactions and people that cause them to want you more. 1145 00:57:55,920 --> 00:57:58,240 Speaker 1: I mean, but even that's like literally how your com 1146 00:57:58,440 --> 00:58:00,919 Speaker 1: is built to like release those kind closed from people's brains, 1147 00:58:01,160 --> 00:58:02,880 Speaker 1: so like you're gonna have a stronger band with people 1148 00:58:02,880 --> 00:58:05,200 Speaker 1: you fluid with versus people you're not well, even even 1149 00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:09,280 Speaker 1: the stronger connection. I remember when we first went to 1150 00:58:09,720 --> 00:58:15,440 Speaker 1: your club, he kissed uh two other women, and I 1151 00:58:15,600 --> 00:58:17,640 Speaker 1: was fine clearly with him fucking other women, but the 1152 00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:20,680 Speaker 1: kissing was actually my problem. Of course, he used condoms. 1153 00:58:20,720 --> 00:58:25,120 Speaker 1: You have condoms almost in little areas all over the club, um. 1154 00:58:25,160 --> 00:58:27,240 Speaker 1: But we brought our own and so I knew, like 1155 00:58:27,480 --> 00:58:29,960 Speaker 1: there was no raw sex going on. But the kissing 1156 00:58:30,200 --> 00:58:34,960 Speaker 1: really bothered me because sex kissing during sex prior to sex, 1157 00:58:35,160 --> 00:58:37,840 Speaker 1: I mean, the kissing led up to them having sex, 1158 00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:41,000 Speaker 1: and we were all intertwined, um. And I didn't think 1159 00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:42,680 Speaker 1: I would have a problem with the kissing as much, 1160 00:58:42,800 --> 00:58:45,240 Speaker 1: but we had to have a conversation about that because 1161 00:58:45,320 --> 00:58:49,400 Speaker 1: that's what I linked to intimacy. There's a lot of 1162 00:58:49,440 --> 00:58:51,520 Speaker 1: men who I've had sex with and we didn't kiss 1163 00:58:51,640 --> 00:58:53,600 Speaker 1: because it was just sucking. I've never had sex with. 1164 00:58:55,360 --> 00:58:58,240 Speaker 1: But to see him, to see him kissing women, that's 1165 00:58:58,280 --> 00:59:00,920 Speaker 1: where I was like, that's that, it's see that I 1166 00:59:00,960 --> 00:59:04,360 Speaker 1: didn't want to see. But we ended up having that conversation, uh. 1167 00:59:04,800 --> 00:59:06,800 Speaker 1: And he had a strong reasoning behind it, being in 1168 00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:09,520 Speaker 1: that space, especially being a black male and being how 1169 00:59:09,640 --> 00:59:12,720 Speaker 1: big he is. He said that that's a way to 1170 00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:16,800 Speaker 1: gauge consent kissing back them coming on to me like 1171 00:59:17,160 --> 00:59:19,400 Speaker 1: he does. He never wants to feel like he's too 1172 00:59:19,440 --> 00:59:21,840 Speaker 1: aggressive with anyone, and so he was like, well, the 1173 00:59:21,920 --> 00:59:24,840 Speaker 1: kissing makes me comfortable in this space because I know, 1174 00:59:25,000 --> 00:59:27,600 Speaker 1: like there's a level of consent with who I'm kissing 1175 00:59:27,960 --> 00:59:30,600 Speaker 1: to move forward and we can talk about it. You know, 1176 00:59:30,800 --> 00:59:32,960 Speaker 1: he can gauge it with kissing. And I was like, 1177 00:59:33,040 --> 00:59:35,240 Speaker 1: I didn't even look at it like that. So while 1178 00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:38,200 Speaker 1: I'm looking at kissing as being this super emotional attachment, 1179 00:59:38,560 --> 00:59:40,640 Speaker 1: he's like, not, bitch, I don't need a bit saying 1180 00:59:40,760 --> 00:59:44,240 Speaker 1: I did anything that I didn't think we had agreed to. 1181 00:59:44,760 --> 00:59:46,600 Speaker 1: And I was like, okay. Sometimes also too, if the 1182 00:59:46,720 --> 00:59:48,720 Speaker 1: kissing his whack and you're like, I'm not really feeling that. 1183 00:59:49,480 --> 00:59:51,960 Speaker 1: You tell a lot about like a sexual experience to 1184 00:59:52,200 --> 00:59:57,200 Speaker 1: so help. I kissed someone recently who he's a fighter, 1185 00:59:57,720 --> 00:59:59,840 Speaker 1: So maybe that's why I should have expected him to be. 1186 01:00:00,400 --> 01:00:02,520 Speaker 1: He's like a boxer, or he'd be fine in the 1187 01:00:02,560 --> 01:00:07,440 Speaker 1: streets like a world star path, but he fights like boxing, 1188 01:00:07,880 --> 01:00:09,960 Speaker 1: and when he was kissing me, it was just like 1189 01:00:10,120 --> 01:00:12,760 Speaker 1: a lot, and I was like, dude, because they could 1190 01:00:12,760 --> 01:00:14,720 Speaker 1: go either way. You can hate your face. I hate 1191 01:00:14,760 --> 01:00:20,480 Speaker 1: them type of kisses where the darts sometimes like the 1192 01:00:20,600 --> 01:00:23,880 Speaker 1: darting tongue. People do that when they eat my pussy 1193 01:00:23,920 --> 01:00:27,520 Speaker 1: and I'm like, stop it stop, What did make the 1194 01:00:27,560 --> 01:00:29,240 Speaker 1: stallion stay stopped? Look at my pussy so hard? This 1195 01:00:29,280 --> 01:00:34,200 Speaker 1: year aggravated, like can calm your mouth down? I had 1196 01:00:34,240 --> 01:00:35,920 Speaker 1: to remember someone was eating me out and I was 1197 01:00:36,080 --> 01:00:38,880 Speaker 1: younger than too, this was like maybe early twenties. And 1198 01:00:39,040 --> 01:00:44,000 Speaker 1: I took my hand on his face like s because 1199 01:00:44,000 --> 01:00:46,360 Speaker 1: I didn't know how whatever hand motion I could give 1200 01:00:46,400 --> 01:00:52,240 Speaker 1: that was like, this is not a steak anyway. Um. 1201 01:00:53,680 --> 01:00:56,640 Speaker 1: I wanted to before we get out of here because 1202 01:00:57,560 --> 01:00:59,840 Speaker 1: I'm actually a little unclear. Not that it's confusing, but 1203 01:01:00,640 --> 01:01:02,480 Speaker 1: it is. I guess if I'm saying that, how do 1204 01:01:02,560 --> 01:01:04,600 Speaker 1: your different membership tires work? Because I don't really know. 1205 01:01:04,680 --> 01:01:07,760 Speaker 1: It's changed a few times since since we went the 1206 01:01:07,800 --> 01:01:10,560 Speaker 1: first time, and yeah, how do they work for people? Um? So, 1207 01:01:10,880 --> 01:01:13,439 Speaker 1: right now, people can become Tribute members they pay nineteen 1208 01:01:13,440 --> 01:01:16,760 Speaker 1: a month and they get discounted passes for everything, or 1209 01:01:16,800 --> 01:01:18,480 Speaker 1: they can have a Status member and they get unlimited 1210 01:01:18,560 --> 01:01:21,800 Speaker 1: access it's like a month, so we keep it very reasonable. 1211 01:01:21,840 --> 01:01:24,040 Speaker 1: I think that's very affordable. And now where we gotta 1212 01:01:24,080 --> 01:01:26,120 Speaker 1: work on. We have two new locations that we're opening 1213 01:01:26,200 --> 01:01:29,800 Speaker 1: up right now. Maybe and I were looking through the 1214 01:01:29,840 --> 01:01:33,560 Speaker 1: prices together and I was like, what because because I'm 1215 01:01:33,600 --> 01:01:36,480 Speaker 1: not gonna lie like again, I've brought people to that 1216 01:01:36,560 --> 01:01:38,920 Speaker 1: space and they're like, I want to go again like 1217 01:01:39,080 --> 01:01:41,720 Speaker 1: I brought other I've brought men and women to the 1218 01:01:41,800 --> 01:01:43,919 Speaker 1: space and they're like, so I'm going to become a member. 1219 01:01:43,920 --> 01:01:45,800 Speaker 1: And because that's what I tell them, I'm like, go 1220 01:01:45,960 --> 01:01:47,960 Speaker 1: to the website, became a member, because you ain't just 1221 01:01:48,000 --> 01:01:49,720 Speaker 1: gonna come when I don't want to have to feel 1222 01:01:49,720 --> 01:01:51,360 Speaker 1: like I gotta go every weekend because now I gotta 1223 01:01:51,360 --> 01:01:57,360 Speaker 1: be shepherd. Like literally, it's like bring your work up 1224 01:01:57,400 --> 01:01:59,600 Speaker 1: to work or some ship. I'm like, I don't work here, 1225 01:01:59,680 --> 01:02:03,120 Speaker 1: but okay, so you have the nineteen dollars because you 1226 01:02:03,240 --> 01:02:05,720 Speaker 1: have off tickets and then one sixty nine per month. Um. 1227 01:02:05,880 --> 01:02:09,080 Speaker 1: This clubhouse is actually almost I mean it's pretty much acapacity. 1228 01:02:09,120 --> 01:02:12,200 Speaker 1: So we're opening up a second clubhouse and then the third. 1229 01:02:12,280 --> 01:02:15,600 Speaker 1: So we're doing Williamsburg. We're launching Miami l a We 1230 01:02:15,680 --> 01:02:17,480 Speaker 1: have thirty a street that we're launching, which will be 1231 01:02:17,720 --> 01:02:20,520 Speaker 1: kind of more of like a lounge experience, so bar 1232 01:02:20,800 --> 01:02:22,920 Speaker 1: and you can book dom services and stuff like that 1233 01:02:23,040 --> 01:02:26,480 Speaker 1: within the space that insane performances and just like a 1234 01:02:26,520 --> 01:02:28,520 Speaker 1: sexy little meet up. And then there'll be a bus 1235 01:02:28,640 --> 01:02:30,200 Speaker 1: that can take you to the clubhouse if you want 1236 01:02:30,200 --> 01:02:37,680 Speaker 1: to play in the Bang and Bang bus like the bank, 1237 01:02:38,040 --> 01:02:39,840 Speaker 1: you can funk on the bus. You can spot on 1238 01:02:39,880 --> 01:02:43,160 Speaker 1: the bus. That's fun. Like that Is it like a 1239 01:02:43,200 --> 01:02:48,640 Speaker 1: school bus? Yeah, let me help you with that. Sounds 1240 01:02:48,720 --> 01:02:51,400 Speaker 1: like fun. That sounds awesome. Yeah. So the new location 1241 01:02:51,480 --> 01:02:53,600 Speaker 1: we're launching, we just got Laura Desiree. She's going to 1242 01:02:53,640 --> 01:02:56,240 Speaker 1: be our creative director for the new show. Um, we're 1243 01:02:56,280 --> 01:02:58,600 Speaker 1: booking some amazing talents we've worked with over the years 1244 01:02:58,600 --> 01:03:00,480 Speaker 1: and will be you do put on some show. Yeah, 1245 01:03:02,200 --> 01:03:04,680 Speaker 1: when we had to watch a show like, he was like, oh, 1246 01:03:04,800 --> 01:03:08,680 Speaker 1: Daniel putting on a show for us. It's good. Even 1247 01:03:08,960 --> 01:03:12,800 Speaker 1: even the pegging demo that was it was it was 1248 01:03:12,840 --> 01:03:16,200 Speaker 1: a quick like fifteen minutes. Um, I guess he came 1249 01:03:16,240 --> 01:03:28,560 Speaker 1: that fast. Um damn bitch, I had a question and 1250 01:03:28,640 --> 01:03:34,040 Speaker 1: you're seeing you're throwing in badass jokes forget god damn question. 1251 01:03:34,400 --> 01:03:37,160 Speaker 1: Oh this is my question. So for someone who wants 1252 01:03:37,200 --> 01:03:41,240 Speaker 1: to become a member will have the uh the link 1253 01:03:41,320 --> 01:03:44,440 Speaker 1: in the description. But is there still I remember we 1254 01:03:44,520 --> 01:03:47,240 Speaker 1: talked about it. Is there still like where you guys 1255 01:03:47,320 --> 01:03:50,680 Speaker 1: need pictures, you still have to approve. It's not just 1256 01:03:50,840 --> 01:03:56,680 Speaker 1: you pay now, you're still approval. And the approval process, Um, 1257 01:03:57,400 --> 01:03:59,520 Speaker 1: how long does it take? It can be up to 1258 01:03:59,520 --> 01:04:02,120 Speaker 1: six weeks. We try to let people in at certain 1259 01:04:02,240 --> 01:04:04,680 Speaker 1: like levels. So once we had a hundred people who 1260 01:04:04,680 --> 01:04:06,480 Speaker 1: are approved, will approve that hundred, and then we'll wait 1261 01:04:06,480 --> 01:04:09,600 Speaker 1: from next hundred and the improved. So it is a process. 1262 01:04:09,640 --> 01:04:11,440 Speaker 1: Don't just thank you, you're just gonna be pulling up. 1263 01:04:13,560 --> 01:04:17,240 Speaker 1: You have to actually fly. And honestly, we're creating we're 1264 01:04:17,240 --> 01:04:20,080 Speaker 1: creating more excuses faces because like again within the membership, 1265 01:04:20,120 --> 01:04:21,880 Speaker 1: we have like amazing people like you, like we have 1266 01:04:22,600 --> 01:04:25,480 Speaker 1: big I mean really it is normally regulars. I'm not 1267 01:04:25,520 --> 01:04:28,840 Speaker 1: gonna go there's the same people. Yea, yeah, like regular stuff. 1268 01:04:28,840 --> 01:04:30,960 Speaker 1: Like I do agree, Like we're adding a we're creating 1269 01:04:31,000 --> 01:04:34,040 Speaker 1: a new experience for people who are in a certain 1270 01:04:34,080 --> 01:04:36,000 Speaker 1: caliber in a sense, like you need a little bit 1271 01:04:36,040 --> 01:04:43,080 Speaker 1: more privacy, you want, because you know we the air game, Noel, 1272 01:04:43,200 --> 01:04:48,640 Speaker 1: the club for Mandy, and then the special I need 1273 01:04:48,720 --> 01:04:50,720 Speaker 1: a special club. Now. Now, if you guys want to 1274 01:04:50,760 --> 01:04:53,400 Speaker 1: figure out how the actual business of this works, how 1275 01:04:53,520 --> 01:04:57,080 Speaker 1: Daniel gaines capital, how hiring his staff works, asking I 1276 01:04:57,120 --> 01:04:58,960 Speaker 1: don't know, there's no way fuses leaving in when I 1277 01:04:58,960 --> 01:05:03,600 Speaker 1: asked you who cleans up? Come? But who claims to come? 1278 01:05:03,680 --> 01:05:05,720 Speaker 1: And with no, he's like, well we have our did 1279 01:05:05,760 --> 01:05:10,960 Speaker 1: you call them angels over there? You know? Came? Was like, 1280 01:05:12,360 --> 01:05:14,000 Speaker 1: and can you run that back and not say come 1281 01:05:14,080 --> 01:05:17,280 Speaker 1: this time? Thank you? Uh know? But we It was 1282 01:05:17,360 --> 01:05:20,720 Speaker 1: just really interesting because again this isn't show about business 1283 01:05:20,760 --> 01:05:23,560 Speaker 1: and like just talking about how you have to find spaces, 1284 01:05:24,040 --> 01:05:28,920 Speaker 1: legalization of things and membership safety, how you build community 1285 01:05:29,080 --> 01:05:33,440 Speaker 1: marketing PR, which, by the way, I don't know who 1286 01:05:33,520 --> 01:05:38,080 Speaker 1: does your PR. Daniels one we had we had the 1287 01:05:38,120 --> 01:05:41,720 Speaker 1: phone call it. That's how we found him. She's amazing 1288 01:05:41,880 --> 01:05:44,520 Speaker 1: from the New York Post articles. Yeah, like you have 1289 01:05:44,760 --> 01:05:47,240 Speaker 1: and it's represented well, so check it out tonight. Hopefully 1290 01:05:47,280 --> 01:05:49,200 Speaker 1: we are all watching it together as a family in 1291 01:05:49,280 --> 01:05:52,680 Speaker 1: New York. And um yeah, also you guys have your 1292 01:05:52,720 --> 01:05:55,480 Speaker 1: talk show you just did Yeah, yeah, We're really I'm 1293 01:05:55,600 --> 01:05:57,760 Speaker 1: really excited. It's like in partnership with Field. Field is 1294 01:05:57,760 --> 01:06:01,200 Speaker 1: an amazing We talked about all the talk about here, 1295 01:06:02,160 --> 01:06:05,640 Speaker 1: go ahead and drop a check over you. Yeah, sent 1296 01:06:05,720 --> 01:06:09,840 Speaker 1: some checks over, No, but Field is sponsoring that kind 1297 01:06:09,880 --> 01:06:11,720 Speaker 1: of This talk show is just like me speaking to 1298 01:06:11,760 --> 01:06:13,440 Speaker 1: a lot of people who are members, who have been 1299 01:06:13,480 --> 01:06:15,560 Speaker 1: a part of the community or like who know about 1300 01:06:15,720 --> 01:06:18,360 Speaker 1: what it is about. And you know, it's really just 1301 01:06:18,520 --> 01:06:21,800 Speaker 1: talking about you know, really honest conversations around sex and 1302 01:06:21,960 --> 01:06:24,240 Speaker 1: and just kind of bringing that field to people where 1303 01:06:24,240 --> 01:06:26,600 Speaker 1: they can feel little bit more comfortable, you know, exploring 1304 01:06:26,680 --> 01:06:29,080 Speaker 1: and doing stuff like that. So Field has been great 1305 01:06:29,160 --> 01:06:32,360 Speaker 1: and yeah, I'm happy they're working with I love it. 1306 01:06:32,440 --> 01:06:35,320 Speaker 1: And and he does have a ton of episodes for 1307 01:06:35,400 --> 01:06:37,160 Speaker 1: you guys to listen to. Where will they be able 1308 01:06:37,200 --> 01:06:39,480 Speaker 1: to catch these episodes? Um? So yeah, we'll have it 1309 01:06:39,560 --> 01:06:41,960 Speaker 1: on our YouTube channel, will have it on all the 1310 01:06:42,080 --> 01:06:45,320 Speaker 1: normal podcasting spots, and if you send it right I 1311 01:06:45,400 --> 01:06:48,800 Speaker 1: want to, I'll probably have it on my Instagram TV. 1312 01:06:49,640 --> 01:06:51,720 Speaker 1: Uh patrons, I'll make it a public post just so 1313 01:06:51,800 --> 01:06:53,960 Speaker 1: y'll have someone to gain access to it as well. 1314 01:06:54,040 --> 01:06:58,400 Speaker 1: But yeah, Daniel, let everyone know, um where they can 1315 01:06:58,480 --> 01:07:03,640 Speaker 1: find you uh your website and yeah, just NSFW dot 1316 01:07:03,720 --> 01:07:06,520 Speaker 1: house and get to the site and then just Daniel 1317 01:07:06,560 --> 01:07:08,760 Speaker 1: sat for me and all of that will be in 1318 01:07:08,800 --> 01:07:11,080 Speaker 1: the description of this episode. Guys, we want to thank 1319 01:07:11,160 --> 01:07:14,000 Speaker 1: you all for tuning in to another episode. As always, 1320 01:07:14,000 --> 01:07:16,560 Speaker 1: we're gonna leave you guys with a five minute bonus clip. 1321 01:07:16,880 --> 01:07:19,560 Speaker 1: Make sure you check out our Patreon for our twenty 1322 01:07:19,600 --> 01:07:22,400 Speaker 1: dollar tier. We have videos, we have vlogs, we have 1323 01:07:23,040 --> 01:07:25,080 Speaker 1: a lot of ship. You can also gives a video 1324 01:07:25,120 --> 01:07:32,439 Speaker 1: fucking your boyfriend on the line exact. Yeah, I'm happy 1325 01:07:32,480 --> 01:07:40,520 Speaker 1: to film there that. Remember, oh my god. Anyways, guys, 1326 01:07:40,840 --> 01:07:48,920 Speaker 1: as an n f T now corporate it doesn't exist. 1327 01:07:49,240 --> 01:07:52,160 Speaker 1: Also be sure to use promo code w d P 1328 01:07:52,440 --> 01:07:55,440 Speaker 1: and get over an official box owner. Y'all know we 1329 01:07:55,520 --> 01:07:58,040 Speaker 1: have apple side of vinegar gummies work as the suppositories. 1330 01:07:58,280 --> 01:08:01,440 Speaker 1: She organs pouches to carry around all of your house 1331 01:08:01,480 --> 01:08:03,840 Speaker 1: shit in um so go on over to official box 1332 01:08:03,880 --> 01:08:06,760 Speaker 1: owner dot com. You can also check me out on 1333 01:08:07,040 --> 01:08:11,040 Speaker 1: periods this every Monday and every Tuesday on See the 1334 01:08:11,200 --> 01:08:15,560 Speaker 1: thing is Wee? See anything else? Because yaya now ship arrogance, 1335 01:08:15,720 --> 01:08:20,080 Speaker 1: let's do it. Checked me out on Tuesdays on for 1336 01:08:20,160 --> 01:08:22,840 Speaker 1: fact sake and every Monday at eleven pm Sex Cells 1337 01:08:22,880 --> 01:08:25,000 Speaker 1: and again, tonight is gonna be Daniel's episode. You guys 1338 01:08:25,040 --> 01:08:28,080 Speaker 1: have seen My Mom Charlotte. I don't know who else 1339 01:08:28,120 --> 01:08:30,559 Speaker 1: they put in between those, but yes, Daniel is actually 1340 01:08:31,439 --> 01:08:35,000 Speaker 1: the favorite episode I that we did. We talked with couples. 1341 01:08:35,520 --> 01:08:38,040 Speaker 1: We it's just like a real look inside of his 1342 01:08:38,120 --> 01:08:40,519 Speaker 1: club and it's done so well. Shout out to Josh 1343 01:08:40,800 --> 01:08:46,040 Speaker 1: the DP. Over and over. I said, we have to 1344 01:08:46,200 --> 01:08:48,240 Speaker 1: make this like as high end as it is because 1345 01:08:48,320 --> 01:08:51,479 Speaker 1: his club really is. It's really a club that for 1346 01:08:51,560 --> 01:08:54,040 Speaker 1: the price, like we say, it should be higher because 1347 01:08:54,120 --> 01:08:56,400 Speaker 1: it really feels so elevated. And I was like, we 1348 01:08:56,439 --> 01:08:58,280 Speaker 1: gotta make sure we shoot the ship right, no funny ship, 1349 01:08:58,360 --> 01:09:01,200 Speaker 1: no silly ask music. Yes, hopefully we'll all be watching 1350 01:09:01,240 --> 01:09:03,120 Speaker 1: it in bed together tonight. Movie. Yeah. Well, Daniel, thank 1351 01:09:03,160 --> 01:09:05,160 Speaker 1: you so much for joining us. Hey guys, you are 1352 01:09:05,200 --> 01:09:06,680 Speaker 1: going to get a five minute bonus clip. If you 1353 01:09:06,720 --> 01:09:08,880 Speaker 1: like what you hear, go on over to Patreon dot 1354 01:09:08,920 --> 01:09:11,960 Speaker 1: com back slash Horrible Decisions. This has been another episode 1355 01:09:12,040 --> 01:09:21,519 Speaker 1: of Horrible Decisions. Hi sluts, it's bonus, bitch. Welcome back 1356 01:09:21,560 --> 01:09:25,160 Speaker 1: to another episode of our Cinema. We have been talking 1357 01:09:25,160 --> 01:09:28,160 Speaker 1: about Johnson's cabarets so much chat we weren't able to 1358 01:09:28,200 --> 01:09:30,040 Speaker 1: do it on nothing else. I will tell you guys this, 1359 01:09:30,640 --> 01:09:33,920 Speaker 1: even if you don't watch the show, we promise we 1360 01:09:33,960 --> 01:09:37,479 Speaker 1: will make it relative, make it fun. It's also such 1361 01:09:37,520 --> 01:09:39,800 Speaker 1: a hot mess that you've probably seen the show. This 1362 01:09:40,000 --> 01:09:42,960 Speaker 1: is just every ratchet show reincarnated that you've ever watched 1363 01:09:43,000 --> 01:09:45,760 Speaker 1: on DV. I really like it. I really think that 1364 01:09:46,120 --> 01:09:50,280 Speaker 1: what Zeus is doing uh with their content is really 1365 01:09:50,360 --> 01:09:55,920 Speaker 1: really good. I'm watching um. Let me give you a 1366 01:09:56,000 --> 01:09:58,160 Speaker 1: gauge from what I know from other people, so we 1367 01:09:58,200 --> 01:10:02,280 Speaker 1: could take maybe a guess of what we think. Bad 1368 01:10:02,320 --> 01:10:05,400 Speaker 1: Girls Club Girls get anywhere from two to four thousand 1369 01:10:05,400 --> 01:10:08,000 Speaker 1: an episode Love and Hip Hop Guests three thousand, an 1370 01:10:08,000 --> 01:10:12,240 Speaker 1: episode for first timers, ten thousand for like. That's because 1371 01:10:12,400 --> 01:10:15,840 Speaker 1: I know people I Love and hip got from talking 1372 01:10:15,880 --> 01:10:19,640 Speaker 1: about like for the first show, three thousand for like 1373 01:10:19,840 --> 01:10:23,400 Speaker 1: a no name or first timers to ten thousand, So 1374 01:10:23,560 --> 01:10:25,720 Speaker 1: you could try to get anywhere from one to one 1375 01:10:25,840 --> 01:10:27,639 Speaker 1: fifty and the other thing with Love and Hip Hop, 1376 01:10:27,720 --> 01:10:32,200 Speaker 1: though it's based on appearance, So sorry handing the line, 1377 01:10:32,800 --> 01:10:38,760 Speaker 1: but I do know that Quimby was paying about five 1378 01:10:38,840 --> 01:10:41,560 Speaker 1: thousand an episode for new shows, and Quimby had a 1379 01:10:41,640 --> 01:10:44,160 Speaker 1: larger budgete than Zeus, but they didn't have anyone as 1380 01:10:44,240 --> 01:10:47,519 Speaker 1: big as Joscelyn. Jocelyn's putting out so much and I'm shocked. 1381 01:10:48,120 --> 01:10:53,559 Speaker 1: I mean, Quimby also went out in six months. They did, 1382 01:10:53,680 --> 01:10:55,640 Speaker 1: but they had mad bread though they were giving it 1383 01:10:55,760 --> 01:10:57,919 Speaker 1: all out. That's why I'm like, they were spending on production, 1384 01:10:57,960 --> 01:11:00,240 Speaker 1: building studios, so they just used their money wrong. But 1385 01:11:00,520 --> 01:11:04,360 Speaker 1: if these shows give it out that much, what do 1386 01:11:04,479 --> 01:11:06,840 Speaker 1: you think Jocelyn is getting on a streaming platform not 1387 01:11:07,000 --> 01:11:10,679 Speaker 1: TV or cable. I'm not going to you. It depends 1388 01:11:10,720 --> 01:11:15,040 Speaker 1: how good her attorney is. I know too many people 1389 01:11:15,120 --> 01:11:18,680 Speaker 1: that have done TV who have been like, it's worth it, 1390 01:11:19,479 --> 01:11:21,320 Speaker 1: And I've seen a lot of people who have done 1391 01:11:21,360 --> 01:11:24,479 Speaker 1: TV and said, yeah, it ain't worth it because it's 1392 01:11:24,560 --> 01:11:29,400 Speaker 1: really they can guarantee exposure, so that's where they're like, 1393 01:11:29,600 --> 01:11:32,360 Speaker 1: you can go and get things and bookings. So I 1394 01:11:32,439 --> 01:11:35,720 Speaker 1: don't know. I don't be watching these people. I think 1395 01:11:35,800 --> 01:11:38,360 Speaker 1: that she definitely is a millionaire out of all of 1396 01:11:38,400 --> 01:11:42,880 Speaker 1: the ventures she has, But I don't watch the Job 1397 01:11:42,960 --> 01:11:44,800 Speaker 1: to you, but I did do. We probably watched the 1398 01:11:44,840 --> 01:11:47,400 Speaker 1: call her Daddy ship whenever something is going on or 1399 01:11:47,439 --> 01:11:50,120 Speaker 1: if anything, I always want to know what people in 1400 01:11:50,280 --> 01:11:53,120 Speaker 1: my lane are getting paid. That's important, bro, for the 1401 01:11:53,240 --> 01:11:55,439 Speaker 1: job that I have. Now, I called three people that 1402 01:11:55,520 --> 01:11:57,960 Speaker 1: worked at Audible. I called Charlotte. I mean, I said, 1403 01:11:57,960 --> 01:12:00,360 Speaker 1: I know y'all don't get along nowad they're friends, but 1404 01:12:00,400 --> 01:12:01,800 Speaker 1: I said, I'm know y'all get along, but I need 1405 01:12:01,840 --> 01:12:03,200 Speaker 1: to talk to the people that do my job on 1406 01:12:03,280 --> 01:12:07,280 Speaker 1: your side. Like we I think getting undervalued and under 1407 01:12:07,360 --> 01:12:10,519 Speaker 1: sold is like something that is super important, and we've 1408 01:12:10,680 --> 01:12:14,240 Speaker 1: definitely been conscientious of that too, Like I'm really happy 1409 01:12:14,280 --> 01:12:16,559 Speaker 1: with what we got, you know, for a Black Effect contract. 1410 01:12:16,640 --> 01:12:19,320 Speaker 1: But even now, it's like, what if we grow crazy 1411 01:12:19,479 --> 01:12:21,800 Speaker 1: then what Like it's it's good to know your competition 1412 01:12:21,920 --> 01:12:24,439 Speaker 1: and um not that I will start a tripper show. 1413 01:12:24,560 --> 01:12:27,840 Speaker 1: But she's just so phenomenal that I am curious because 1414 01:12:27,880 --> 01:12:30,800 Speaker 1: even when I watched season one, it wasn't given. With 1415 01:12:30,880 --> 01:12:33,120 Speaker 1: season two gay, it wasn't giving with a supposed to 1416 01:12:33,160 --> 01:12:36,560 Speaker 1: gay niked. Season two was gorgeous. She was finer, the 1417 01:12:36,640 --> 01:12:41,600 Speaker 1: bitches was batter like. That show is really impressive to 1418 01:12:41,680 --> 01:12:43,880 Speaker 1: the point where like now that I'm done and waiting 1419 01:12:43,920 --> 01:12:46,080 Speaker 1: for the next episode, now Zeus got me clicking on 1420 01:12:46,160 --> 01:12:49,040 Speaker 1: other ship. Then Nia is smart. Bro Zeus is really good. 1421 01:12:49,520 --> 01:12:52,599 Speaker 1: Didn't be someone on there too? Yes? Did you watch 1422 01:12:52,680 --> 01:12:54,840 Speaker 1: it for like the love of beast Smane or something? 1423 01:12:55,160 --> 01:12:57,559 Speaker 1: I just got Zeus? No, I didn't. I didn't watch 1424 01:12:57,560 --> 01:13:02,080 Speaker 1: your show. T T got one the dude from with 1425 01:13:02,240 --> 01:13:06,599 Speaker 1: the blue hair. I wish I could. He's not trained, 1426 01:13:06,720 --> 01:13:09,400 Speaker 1: he's just been putting a wig on up. Ain't how 1427 01:13:09,479 --> 01:13:12,080 Speaker 1: glad I got everybody? I gotta show on that motherfuck anyway? 1428 01:13:13,120 --> 01:13:16,840 Speaker 1: Out of all the women or men that have futured, 1429 01:13:16,880 --> 01:13:18,880 Speaker 1: you've got her husband in a therapist. Who would you 1430 01:13:18,960 --> 01:13:25,040 Speaker 1: want to fuck from Jocelyn's capet? Uh? It's damn? What's 1431 01:13:25,080 --> 01:13:27,760 Speaker 1: her name? How long? I got the one she has 1432 01:13:27,960 --> 01:13:33,760 Speaker 1: the short hair, like short red hair. Lexi blow, yes, 1433 01:13:34,040 --> 01:13:37,799 Speaker 1: so the one that Johnson was like so Lexi Lexi 1434 01:13:38,080 --> 01:13:41,719 Speaker 1: and Miss Natural those are my two favorite Miss Natural. 1435 01:13:43,120 --> 01:13:44,960 Speaker 1: Maybe she just turned me off somebody because she'll be 1436 01:13:44,960 --> 01:13:48,320 Speaker 1: here everyone nuts. I like her, so I like Miss 1437 01:13:48,439 --> 01:13:51,479 Speaker 1: Natchal and I like Lexi those Miss Lexi blow Lexi 1438 01:13:51,520 --> 01:13:53,479 Speaker 1: blows hot. But that's the lightest I've ever seen you. 1439 01:13:53,680 --> 01:13:57,680 Speaker 1: Um find somebody attracted, you know, what's crazy about you 1440 01:13:57,840 --> 01:14:03,160 Speaker 1: saying that my my ex is the same way now, 1441 01:14:03,520 --> 01:14:09,040 Speaker 1: Like we'll go to a club and uh, he'll like 1442 01:14:09,240 --> 01:14:11,639 Speaker 1: already know and he says that he's like, you don't 1443 01:14:11,680 --> 01:14:12,639 Speaker 1: like light skinned girls.