WEBVTT - He Lived for His Goals

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<v Speaker 1>Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George

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<v Speaker 1>Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Ketty Armstrong and Jetty,

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<v Speaker 1>and he Armstrong and Jetty.

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<v Speaker 2>He was a fantastic person. He was a man who

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<v Speaker 2>are you going to watch? It's going to be a

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<v Speaker 2>very big thing with him. He's going to be appreciated

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<v Speaker 2>more now than he was when he was living.

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<v Speaker 3>I think Donald Trump called into a whole bunch of

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<v Speaker 3>different news shows yesterday when his friend Lindsey Graham died

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<v Speaker 3>over the weekend and he got the news and then

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<v Speaker 3>telling everybody about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, as we were discussing earlier the narrative from stupid

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<v Speaker 1>people for stupid people that Lindsey Graham, who originally opposed Trump,

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<v Speaker 1>later cowtowed to him and he became a sickle fan

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<v Speaker 1>and he's a hypocrite again, stupid analysis for stupid people.

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<v Speaker 1>How about this? Lindsey Graham thought his goals from America

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<v Speaker 1>and what he thought was best were so sacred to

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<v Speaker 1>him that he would work with whoever he needed to

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<v Speaker 1>to make them happen because he lived for those goals.

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<v Speaker 1>He was a highly principled guy. The last thing he

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<v Speaker 1>was was unprincipled, he's practical.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he ran against Trump originally, if you don't remember,

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<v Speaker 3>because he thought Trump he didn't like Trump's foreign policy

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<v Speaker 3>at all, and he was really worried about Trump getting

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<v Speaker 3>the nomination and where that would take the country because

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<v Speaker 3>Trump was running against all these wars. Like Lindsey, Graham

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<v Speaker 3>was more of a hawk than me on wanting, for instance,

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<v Speaker 3>Iraq and Afghanistan to go on forever, it seems, but

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<v Speaker 3>I agreed with him on being a hawk about Iran

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<v Speaker 3>and Ukraine. But he was worried that everything could get

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<v Speaker 3>out of hand, and like you said, so when he realized, Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>I guess the country's going Trump's direction, or at least

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<v Speaker 3>the Republican Party is, I need to still be a

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<v Speaker 3>voice for the things that I want. So I got

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<v Speaker 3>to figure out a way to do that.

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<v Speaker 1>And I actually saw this phrase used in one tribute

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<v Speaker 1>to him. My mom's family was from South Carolina, and

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<v Speaker 1>I was a small child when my grandmother first said

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<v Speaker 1>to me, or it could have been my mom quoting

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<v Speaker 1>my grandmother, that you draw more flies with honey than vinegar.

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<v Speaker 1>And of course that's not about drawing flies. What do

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<v Speaker 1>you want to want to draw. Who wants flies around them?

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<v Speaker 1>I've always wanted flies in the kitchen. There are few flies,

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<v Speaker 1>but not enough exactly. It's a non expression, yet it

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<v Speaker 1>has endured, so let's let's use it.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And Lindsey Graham, also of the great state of South Carolina,

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<v Speaker 1>believe that, Look, if you want to get stuff done,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't do it being an ass. You do it

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<v Speaker 1>by reaching out to people and seeing how you can

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<v Speaker 1>work with them. So again, that whole he was a hypocrite, narrative, evil,

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<v Speaker 1>stupid people. Forget it, it's dumb. Anyway, I was.

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<v Speaker 3>Happy to see with the respect that he was shown

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<v Speaker 3>by all your mainstream media over the weekend. They presented

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<v Speaker 3>him in a very good light on your Faces the Nation,

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<v Speaker 3>your meets the Press, your ABC's this week, which I.

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<v Speaker 1>Was happy to see that we still do that. Yeah. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And Lindsay in particular, was a real fan of working

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<v Speaker 1>across the aisle, even during these days. He and Senator Blumenthal,

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<v Speaker 1>about whom I have said very harsh things, and he

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<v Speaker 1>deserves them. They're working together on a new Russian sanctions

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<v Speaker 1>bill that actually had teeth. They've been trying to get

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<v Speaker 1>Trump to support it for ages. And it was finally

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<v Speaker 1>looking like it might work. And it still might work.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, he was working across the aisle till his

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<v Speaker 1>last day.

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<v Speaker 3>I've got a good, controversial hot take from Mark Halpern

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<v Speaker 3>on the role of Lindsay Graham's death in the war

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<v Speaker 3>in Ukraine.

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<v Speaker 1>Counterintuitive. They don't like to enjoy a good counterintuitive. So

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<v Speaker 1>we have some of Lindsay's greatest hits assembly for you.

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<v Speaker 1>He was very, very funny, very eloquent, sincere. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>let's let's start with something quick in jazzy Michael sixty five.

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<v Speaker 4>Mister Zuckerberg, you and the companies before us. I know

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<v Speaker 4>you don't mean it to be so, but you have

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<v Speaker 4>blood on your hands. You have a product, you have

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<v Speaker 4>a product that's killing people.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that was good. I tell you what, why don't

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<v Speaker 1>we just do we start the show with a show stopper, Jack.

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<v Speaker 1>It's his steroid to Heaven, it's his greatest hits, his hit,

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<v Speaker 1>greatest hit, Lindsey Graham. During the Judge Kavanaugh hearings, just

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<v Speaker 1>to reset it in case your memories are fuzzy. At

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<v Speaker 1>the last moment, the Democrats brought forth this blasy Ford

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<v Speaker 1>woman who claimed that in high school many decades ago,

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<v Speaker 1>that Judge Kavanaugh was part of a group of boys

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<v Speaker 1>who molested her on one level or another at a

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<v Speaker 1>high school party where people had been drinking, and the

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<v Speaker 1>memory her memories were incredibly vague and a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>the facts didn't fit.

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<v Speaker 3>It was the opposite of the woman that came forward

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<v Speaker 3>against Platner last week, where there was zero contemporary at

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<v Speaker 3>the time corroborated evidence.

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<v Speaker 1>Her friends were like, I never heard that, right, right,

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<v Speaker 1>there's just nothing to corroborate it. And notably because Lindsey

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<v Speaker 1>makes a reference to this, the Democrats didn't say, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>this needs to be fully investigated. They just brought it

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<v Speaker 1>up at the last minute to assassinate his character. Judge Kavanaugh,

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<v Speaker 1>you may recall, and I would love to hear this again.

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<v Speaker 1>He finally had had enough and abandoned his I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>sit here quietly with a smile on my face in

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<v Speaker 1>a dignified way and take this because this is horrific.

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<v Speaker 1>It made the borking of a judge Borick look tame.

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<v Speaker 1>He blasted him, He said it was disgusting and it

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<v Speaker 1>was wrong, and the rest of it, and then the

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<v Speaker 1>narrative became Kavian awe as he's hot headed. He doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>have the temperament to be on the court. Well, they

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<v Speaker 1>came back from a break and Lindsey Graham had had

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<v Speaker 1>enough sixty Michael, did.

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<v Speaker 4>You know that her staff had already recommended a lawyer

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<v Speaker 4>to dodnor Ford.

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<v Speaker 1>I did not know that. Did you know that her.

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<v Speaker 4>And her staff had this allegations for over twenty days?

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<v Speaker 1>I did not know that at the time.

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<v Speaker 4>If you wanted an FBI investigation, you could have come

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<v Speaker 4>to us. What you want to do is destroy this

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<v Speaker 4>guy's life. Hold this seat open, and hope you went

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<v Speaker 4>in twenty twenty. You've said that, not me. You've got

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<v Speaker 4>nothing to apologize for. When you see Soda Maron Kagan,

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<v Speaker 4>tell him that Lindsay said, oh, because I voted for them,

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<v Speaker 4>I would never do to them what you've done to

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<v Speaker 4>this guy.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the most unethl.

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<v Speaker 4>Sham since I've been in politics. And if you really

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<v Speaker 4>wanted to know the truth, you sure as hell wouldn't

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<v Speaker 4>have done what you've done to this guy. Are you

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<v Speaker 4>a gang rapist?

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<v Speaker 2>No?

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<v Speaker 4>I cannot imagine what you and your family have gone through. Boy,

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<v Speaker 4>y'all want power.

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<v Speaker 1>God, I hope you never get it.

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<v Speaker 4>I hope the American people can see through this sham

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<v Speaker 4>that you knew.

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<v Speaker 1>About it and you held it.

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<v Speaker 4>You had no intention of protecting doctor Ford none. She's

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<v Speaker 4>as much of a victim as you are.

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<v Speaker 1>God.

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<v Speaker 4>I hate to say it because these have been my friends,

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<v Speaker 4>but let me tell you when it comes to this,

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<v Speaker 4>you're looking for a fair process. You came to the

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<v Speaker 4>wrong town at the wrong time.

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<v Speaker 3>My friend, and a lot of the Sunday shows credited

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<v Speaker 3>that speech from Lindsay Graham for rescuing Slash saving Kevin

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<v Speaker 3>Oughn's nomination.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Possibly, there's a lot of grand standing in the

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<v Speaker 1>halls of Congress and the Senate these days. It's fairly

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<v Speaker 1>rare that you hear somebody who is obviously completely sincere

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<v Speaker 1>that was great, That was so ugly.

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<v Speaker 3>He never he never wavered on his whole hawkishness in

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<v Speaker 3>terms of think in the United States needed to, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>stand up to bullies around the world.

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<v Speaker 1>That was man. That was a through line for him, always,

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<v Speaker 1>even when it was very unpopular. I think that probably

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<v Speaker 1>is partly because of his life story, that he was

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<v Speaker 1>very much not the upper crust of society. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>he's still in the His net worth when he passed

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<v Speaker 1>was like one point five million dollars. They had him.

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<v Speaker 3>I got the article in front of me, the poorest

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<v Speaker 3>member of Congress in terms of net worth.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think that's right. Oh okay, this article is wrong, man. Yeah, yeah, anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>we can look into that. But he definitely is in

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<v Speaker 1>the bottom half of everybody in the Congress. But he

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<v Speaker 1>you know, he's the son of a not very well

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<v Speaker 1>to do a liquor store owner, and his parents passed

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<v Speaker 1>away when he was a teenager, and he adopted his

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<v Speaker 1>sister and raised her and took care of her. He's

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<v Speaker 1>never displayed much interest in getting rich. He just cares

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<v Speaker 1>about American foreign policy and the judiciary and stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 1>He's also very very funny. And the context of the

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<v Speaker 1>next clip sixty one, he's talking to the Republican Jewish

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<v Speaker 1>Coalition about the rise of anti Semitism. And this was

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<v Speaker 1>a while back, but note the tone. But I just

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<v Speaker 1>want to make it really clear.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm in the Hitler sucks wing of the Revolgan Party.

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<v Speaker 1>What is this Hitler?

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know. Anyway, Here's what I do know. You

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<v Speaker 4>can sit in a basement with weird people and say

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<v Speaker 4>weird things.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a free country, right.

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<v Speaker 4>But if you ever run for office as a Republican

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<v Speaker 4>and you embrace this, where we're going to beat your

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<v Speaker 4>brains out.

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<v Speaker 3>Reading from this transcript with Al Franken, a former Senator

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<v Speaker 3>from Minnesota who was a member of Saturday Night Live

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<v Speaker 3>wrote for Senator. To Night Live, reporters said, would your

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<v Speaker 3>colleagues in the Senate tell you jokes? Al Franken said, yes,

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<v Speaker 3>is that annoying? Is really annoying for a couple of them.

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<v Speaker 3>Is there anyone who's actually funny?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>The funniest Senator is Lindsey Graham. Really disappointing, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 3>Al Franken said, that's surprising. He's very funny. Al Franken said,

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<v Speaker 3>what's an example? I thought this was actually pretty good.

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<v Speaker 3>When he was running for president in twenty sixteen, I

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<v Speaker 3>was next to him in the see men's room and said,

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<v Speaker 3>if I was the Republican, I'd vote for you, and

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<v Speaker 3>without hesitation, Lindsay Graham said that's my problem, which is true.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow wow, Yeah, I'm anxious to hear. Well, do you

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<v Speaker 1>have more of the Lindsay stuff you'd like to hear?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, here's an example of his hawkishness in sixty two.

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<v Speaker 1>For sure.

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<v Speaker 4>Here's what I tell President Trump. Keep it up for

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<v Speaker 4>a few more weeks. Take carg Island, where all of

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<v Speaker 4>the resources they have to British oil control that island.

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<v Speaker 1>Let this regime down a vine. The result could be

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<v Speaker 1>a grinding war of attrition. They talk about how far

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<v Speaker 1>away they would be from recent.

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<v Speaker 4>Sort of tired of all this armchair quarterback. And this

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<v Speaker 4>has been amazing military operation, God bless the fallen.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's a difference. Let me talk about troops on the.

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<v Speaker 4>I trust the Marines, not that guy. I trust DoD

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<v Speaker 4>We got two marine expeditionary units selling to this island.

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<v Speaker 4>We did a Ojima.

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<v Speaker 3>We can do this, and that might be what we're

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<v Speaker 3>going to do, which we'll talk about a little bit later.

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<v Speaker 3>I really think it's an interesting conversation, and it's not

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<v Speaker 3>everybody's personality that could do this around switching gears, befriending

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<v Speaker 3>enemies or whatever. Because you want to stay in office

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<v Speaker 3>to accomplish the things you want to accomplish, versus people

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<v Speaker 3>who do that who just want to stay in office

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<v Speaker 3>because they like being in office.

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<v Speaker 1>Because there's plenty of that. Yeah, I think maybe it's

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<v Speaker 1>as simple as you look at somebody and say, are

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<v Speaker 1>they clearly purpose driven?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, for instance, I kept hearing over the weekend Lindsey

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<v Speaker 3>Graham found a way to always be relevant no matter

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<v Speaker 3>you know, where the party went. So he came in

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<v Speaker 3>in the big wave in ninety four with a whole

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<v Speaker 3>bunch of rebels that were all about throwing Newt Gingrich

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<v Speaker 3>out of office and a new kind of Republican party

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<v Speaker 3>in fighting the establishment. Next thing, you know, his best

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<v Speaker 3>friend is John McCain, who couldn't have been more of

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<v Speaker 3>the establishment than we all know the Trump story. He

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<v Speaker 3>ran against Trump, he ends up being Trump's closest friend,

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<v Speaker 3>all that sort of stuff. But he all he stayed

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<v Speaker 3>in relevant so that he could be a hawk on

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<v Speaker 3>foreign policy all the way through, where as opposed to

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<v Speaker 3>Joe Biden, who also always found a way to be

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<v Speaker 3>relevant for all those years. But I have no idea

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<v Speaker 3>what Joe Biden cared about, no idea. I don't think

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<v Speaker 3>he cared about anything but holding onto power, enriching the

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<v Speaker 3>Biden family. Yeah, he had so many one hundred and

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<v Speaker 3>eighty degree reverses, not on who he was working with

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<v Speaker 3>or whatever, but on some fundamental policies. Anyway, I wonder

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<v Speaker 3>what you think about that text line four one five

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<v Speaker 3>two nine five KFTC want to mention this new dating

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<v Speaker 3>app trend among you people.

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<v Speaker 1>That's new, young people. That's kind of funny. Among other

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<v Speaker 1>things on the way.

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<v Speaker 5>Arm Trump, a judge ruled that United Airlines must face

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<v Speaker 5>a lawsuit for selling window seats that didn't have windows.

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<v Speaker 5>And while Joy Behar's neighbors are suing her because her

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<v Speaker 5>home does.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, he will ever forget. He will shoehorn in a

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<v Speaker 1>Joy Bay reference, no matter how unlikely. Yes, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>hope you didn't pay for the Connor McGregor fight on

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<v Speaker 1>Saturday night. It lasted about thirty five seconds. Classic. The

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<v Speaker 1>mind is wooling but the body is not. He's thirty

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<v Speaker 1>eight years old and tried to kick a guy in

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<v Speaker 1>the head. Like the first second he tried to do

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<v Speaker 1>one of his big giant kicks, and then he just

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<v Speaker 1>kept falling down and limping around, and he tapped out

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<v Speaker 1>like in less than a minute.

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<v Speaker 3>Just he hurt himself getting surgery today. I just read

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<v Speaker 3>age is a thing, man, It really is. Yeah, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>sure he thought that.

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<v Speaker 1>If Sean used to say time is undefeated. I'm sure

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<v Speaker 1>he thought, I've done this ten thousand times. Why can't

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<v Speaker 1>I kick like that anymore? Well, because your body is

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<v Speaker 1>not the same as it was when you were twenty

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<v Speaker 1>two and doing that. Wow, anyway, you weren't here my Uh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we got this text. Hey Jack, who's that guy in

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<v Speaker 1>the air with you? He sounds vaguely familiar Joe Getty.

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<v Speaker 1>He's been in the radio industry for many years. My

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<v Speaker 1>son saw Conni bercgregor walking down the street in Vegas.

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<v Speaker 1>I was already in bed. My son was out and

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<v Speaker 1>about and he saw because he was training for the

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<v Speaker 1>fight that was in Vegas over the weekend. And Connor

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<v Speaker 1>McGregor just walking down the street in Vegas does that.

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<v Speaker 1>He walks just like he does on TV, kind of

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<v Speaker 1>his arms sticking out, swaggering. That's his actual walk.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know if you swagger as much when you

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<v Speaker 3>lost in twenty five seconds to a guy. So there's

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<v Speaker 3>a new dating app on UC campuses. There's some Bay

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<v Speaker 3>Area company AI companies trying to get going. Kind of

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<v Speaker 3>an interesting idea, uh founded a couple of years ago.

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<v Speaker 3>It just started to take off now Instead of scrolling

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<v Speaker 3>through profiles, you complete a survey that allows the platforms

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<v Speaker 3>AI to determine matches. New pairings are generated every Wednesday,

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<v Speaker 3>giving match students a chance to choose a time that

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<v Speaker 3>works for them both and according to their own data,

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<v Speaker 3>which is probably fudged, it has arranged more than twelve

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<v Speaker 3>thousand dates, with ninety two percent of the matched participants

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<v Speaker 3>saying they wanted to go on a second date, which

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<v Speaker 3>would be very high.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I read about that when it was just getting going.

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<v Speaker 1>It's intriguing. There was some skepticism about it too, But

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<v Speaker 1>if that percentage is anywhere near clear that truly that's

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<v Speaker 1>pretty good. Yeah, I don't know if I will have. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>for the past twenty years, we've connected in primitive ways,

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<v Speaker 1>what based completely on looks.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, that's fairly primitive. But now AI brings your profiles

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<v Speaker 3>to life as agents. Can human beings get past the

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<v Speaker 3>choosing just based on looks and start doing the whole

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<v Speaker 3>AI thing and letting AI choose a mate for them.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll see. Yeah, there's a lot I guess in the

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<v Speaker 1>question here about the things you'd like to do, your hobbies,

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<v Speaker 1>your interests, your attitudes, and this is not. The skepticism

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<v Speaker 1>I ran into is that that's never really been the

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<v Speaker 1>way we've chose was in May. No, it's not. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a mysterious prodiject, you know, product of genetics and sensing

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<v Speaker 1>things in each other. It's probably pheromones involved. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>my wife and I have a couple of things in common, right,

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<v Speaker 1>but we best friends.

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<v Speaker 3>We should talk about that more later, because that's one

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<v Speaker 3>of the things I noticed my brief period of online dating.

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<v Speaker 1>We will talk about that later.

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<v Speaker 3>We got other stuff to get to those stay here.

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<v Speaker 1>Armstrong and Getty. Twenty five year old Sam Farber tried

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<v Speaker 1>to break a Gettess world record for the fastest ten

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<v Speaker 1>meter walk while holding up alum between his knees, but

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<v Speaker 1>the current record is three point nine one seconds. Barber

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<v Speaker 1>did beat the record, coming in three point five seconds.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like somebody in this building could probably get

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<v Speaker 1>get run tonight.

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<v Speaker 3>Michelangelo's take was the Guinness Book of World Records needs

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<v Speaker 3>to go away.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you're right, right, that's just it's idiotic. Look,

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<v Speaker 1>you get one hundred records, you pick them, Yeah, but

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<v Speaker 1>just one hundred ten meter balloon walking. He ain't gonna

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<v Speaker 1>make the grade. I'm guessing.

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<v Speaker 3>So Joel, as you know, is on vacation two weeks.

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<v Speaker 3>I mentioned in a million times celebrating's anniversary. Who's in Alaska?

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<v Speaker 3>He was actually that guy that got flipped by the

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<v Speaker 3>bithon if.

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<v Speaker 1>You've seen the video. Yeah, yeah, the swelling's starting to

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<v Speaker 1>go down. Thank god. He's okay, Thank good. Oh here's

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<v Speaker 1>the number everybody wants to know. Three three solid pounds

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<v Speaker 1>I gained, but only three. It's not bad. It's not terrible. No,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not as Oh. Boy. When I got on the

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<v Speaker 1>scale this morning, I was thinking, all right, look, brace yourself,

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<v Speaker 1>take it like a man, do what needs to be done.

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<v Speaker 1>It'll be okay. E. I wasn't happy about it, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's fun. Might even be a little encouraging, Like you

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<v Speaker 1>can you can live a pretty out there lifestyle and

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<v Speaker 1>ain't gonna do much damage. Boy, I hadn't thought of

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<v Speaker 1>it like that. Yeah, it was just this food was

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<v Speaker 1>so good. So for those who don't know what times

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<v Speaker 1>do you live, that's a really good point. As a

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<v Speaker 1>non Buddhist A yeah, yeah. So my college sweetheart and

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<v Speaker 1>I have been married for forty years, and so we

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<v Speaker 1>celebrated our anniversary with a cruise. Due to the nature

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<v Speaker 1>of this job, Jack and I don't take long breaks much.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not like I've risen up in the insurance world

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<v Speaker 1>and I can have Jim cover my big accounts and

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<v Speaker 1>let me know if something big happens and then go

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<v Speaker 1>on a safari for three weeks. It's just not the

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<v Speaker 1>nature of what we do. So we haven't traveled nearly

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<v Speaker 1>as much as Judy would have liked to. So for

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<v Speaker 1>our fortieth anniversary, I'm more or less declared that, not

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<v Speaker 1>that there was a problem with it, but look, we're

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<v Speaker 1>taking a two week cruise. We're gone, so good luck, goodbye,

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<v Speaker 1>see us suckers. And we went off to Alaska, which

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<v Speaker 1>is every bit as amazing as you have heard. The

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<v Speaker 1>landscape wise, just every time you open your eyes you say,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my god. I still call it Seward's folly. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I was thinking about that because, oh, I went to

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<v Speaker 1>so many really interesting history lectures on the on the ship,

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<v Speaker 1>or went to museums and that sort of stuff, and

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<v Speaker 1>the swords folly thing, it just it reminded me of

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<v Speaker 1>modern politics. Oh, the other side did it, So let's

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<v Speaker 1>call it stupid. Yeah, it's now widely recognized as the

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<v Speaker 1>best real estate purchase in the history of humans. Now, no,

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<v Speaker 1>of course it was swords of those Republicans are stupid anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>It's unbelievably beautiful, great, plus a buffer against the Soviet

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<v Speaker 1>Union in Russia, which is important. Oh yeah, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>as lovely as whale oil was back in the day.

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<v Speaker 1>All of oh god, the history of whaling so gross,

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<v Speaker 1>so terrible. We had no idea the mineral resources that

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<v Speaker 1>were in Alaska when it was bought. I mean, it

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<v Speaker 1>was a good idea that at the time it turned

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<v Speaker 1>out to be an unbelievably good idea. But the one

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<v Speaker 1>thing you get the takeaway from Alaska is how vast

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<v Speaker 1>it is, because we did really the southeastern Alasta, Alaska coast,

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<v Speaker 1>and if you look at a map, Alaska is this

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<v Speaker 1>in enormous land mass. And then you say, oh, look

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<v Speaker 1>at that. It kind of we took some of the

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<v Speaker 1>coasts that looks like it ought to be Canada. But

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<v Speaker 1>that's part of Alaska. Huh. Well, that little like appendix,

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<v Speaker 1>that little vestigial tale of Alaska is an enormous wilderness.

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<v Speaker 1>It's huge. The big part of Alaska you can't even

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<v Speaker 1>comprehend how big it is. It's three times the size

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<v Speaker 1>of Texas roughly roughly, wow, three times as big as Texas. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And it's just it's so beautiful and so rich in

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<v Speaker 1>resources and animals and you name it. And like we

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<v Speaker 1>were in Sword, Alaska at one point. Oh and that

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<v Speaker 1>was I mentioned this Friday. I was on the last

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<v Speaker 1>half hour of the show showing what a trooper. I

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<v Speaker 1>am exhausted from an all night flight, but we did

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<v Speaker 1>a super cool I guess that was a kayak tour

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<v Speaker 1>that we did. And the guide pointed out he said,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, you see those mountains. He said, we've got

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<v Speaker 1>fourteen miles a road in this town. Essentially, he said,

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<v Speaker 1>anything passed right there is complete wilderness. There are no trails,

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<v Speaker 1>there are no roads, there are no cabins, there's nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just wilderness. And that continues for roughly eight hundred

0:22:10.320 --> 0:22:12.439
<v Speaker 1>miles in that direction. He said, I mean, it's just

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<v Speaker 1>all unbelievable. It's you and the bears out there. So anyway,

0:22:17.640 --> 0:22:21.920
<v Speaker 1>it's just it's miraculously beautiful. A lot of these little

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<v Speaker 1>towns really only exist now because of tourism.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sure there ain't no whaling there ain't no gold rush.

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<v Speaker 1>All the horrors have left, the the bordellos that they

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<v Speaker 1>like to talk about because it's cute and people giggle.

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<v Speaker 1>Nothing cuter than the bordello. I've always said.

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<v Speaker 3>Nothing core cuter than a woman desperate enough to sell

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<v Speaker 3>her body for money.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that is old for the old timey desperation. Yeah, yep, yep, yep.

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<v Speaker 1>The gold rush stuff super interesting though. Oh the number

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<v Speaker 1>of suckers who headed up into the frozen tundra and

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<v Speaker 1>ended up freezing to death and had to haul gear

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<v Speaker 1>up mountains full of snow, and then none of them

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<v Speaker 1>got gold. And I was reminded of the old saying, man,

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<v Speaker 1>if there's a if there's a gold rusher and anything rush,

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<v Speaker 1>don't go for what the you harvest the miners not

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<v Speaker 1>with gold, right right, yes, don't, like Levi Strauss figured out,

0:23:18.400 --> 0:23:21.800
<v Speaker 1>don't go for the gold, sell them jeans. So anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>but the history of it is super interesting, and it

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<v Speaker 1>reminded me of a time when you know, people in

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<v Speaker 1>general and Americans would just toss aside everything and go

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<v Speaker 1>off on an unbelievable adventure in a search for success

0:23:36.359 --> 0:23:40.399
<v Speaker 1>and some material comfort. So it was really cool and

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<v Speaker 1>I ate a lot and drank like a fish.

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<v Speaker 3>So when that bison flipped you in the air, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>were you think, well, let's back up. When you were

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<v Speaker 3>running around the trees, yeah, and the bison was chasing

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<v Speaker 3>you know what, were you thinking?

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<v Speaker 1>So far, so good? You know, he's big, but he's

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<v Speaker 1>a little clumsy. I've got a good leader. No, and

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<v Speaker 1>then you know he went right through the tree as

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<v Speaker 1>over tea, the sky, the ground, this guy the ground,

0:24:03.560 --> 0:24:05.600
<v Speaker 1>and thought this is gonna end. This is gonna end badly.

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<v Speaker 3>I think my thought would have been, Uh, when I land,

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<v Speaker 3>is the thing gonna gore me to death? Or is

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<v Speaker 3>it gonna run off? Because that is the real decision

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<v Speaker 3>part to me, and it is when you come down

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<v Speaker 3>to the ground, is it done with me?

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<v Speaker 1>Or is it that when things get really ugly? What Michael,

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<v Speaker 1>I know that look on your face. What do you

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<v Speaker 1>want to say?

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<v Speaker 2>No?

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<v Speaker 1>Just your lack of footspeed in that video was amazing. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm old, I've been eating a lot. Oh yeah. Oh.

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<v Speaker 1>To his credit, the professional photographer who's taking the video

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<v Speaker 1>that we've all enjoyed seventy eight times in the last

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<v Speaker 1>forty eight hours. Uh, he said when the guy went down,

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<v Speaker 1>he ran over and started yelling at the bison because

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<v Speaker 1>he thought it was going to gore the fello. Yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so he tried to Yeah, well, you know what, he

0:24:50.480 --> 0:24:52.200
<v Speaker 1>got us some good video and then he did the

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<v Speaker 1>right thing, So good ows to him. So it's you've noticed,

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<v Speaker 1>perhaps I'm wearing a Alaska themed T shirt here from

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<v Speaker 1>the scenic and musically named Metlakatla, Alaska, which is the

0:25:03.760 --> 0:25:10.720
<v Speaker 1>only Indian reservation Native American reservation in Alaska. I bought

0:25:10.880 --> 0:25:16.280
<v Speaker 1>four Alaska T shirts. That's almost the only swag I bought.

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<v Speaker 1>I need four more T shirts, like I need an

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<v Speaker 1>eleventh finger. I don't know what I would do with it.

0:25:21.240 --> 0:25:24.399
<v Speaker 1>You know, you put it between your thumb and your

0:25:24.400 --> 0:25:28.520
<v Speaker 1>pointing finger. You know that's a good question. Probably like

0:25:29.119 --> 0:25:34.240
<v Speaker 1>a second pinky to really grasp stuff, or could you

0:25:34.280 --> 0:25:37.119
<v Speaker 1>get another thumb, a thumb on the other side. Can

0:25:37.160 --> 0:25:40.640
<v Speaker 1>you imagine? How about on your forehead? No, no, that's

0:25:40.680 --> 0:25:43.760
<v Speaker 1>disgusting anyway. But I bought the T shirts and the

0:25:43.800 --> 0:25:46.480
<v Speaker 1>only other swag I bought were a couple of knives.

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<v Speaker 1>And I've got to I'm gonna get you a copy

0:25:49.280 --> 0:25:52.119
<v Speaker 1>of this guy's card Jack Alaska. Rod He was a

0:25:52.160 --> 0:25:54.960
<v Speaker 1>cop in the lower forty eight. He resettled in Alaska.

0:25:55.080 --> 0:25:57.320
<v Speaker 1>He and his family run a store. But he makes

0:25:57.440 --> 0:26:02.520
<v Speaker 1>knives cool and their court and they're amazing. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>everything from a little pairing knife. Manly Rod up in

0:26:07.880 --> 0:26:09.960
<v Speaker 1>Alaska sold me a couple of knives that we can

0:26:10.280 --> 0:26:15.040
<v Speaker 1>used to serve CHARCOUTERI wow, cheese knives and a little

0:26:15.080 --> 0:26:20.000
<v Speaker 1>paring knife in pretty colors. I could tell you respected me.

0:26:21.160 --> 0:26:24.840
<v Speaker 1>But so I buy these beautiful knives. And again, I

0:26:24.840 --> 0:26:26.320
<v Speaker 1>know you're more of a knife guy than me, but

0:26:26.359 --> 0:26:29.480
<v Speaker 1>they they ranged from like a crocodile. Dundee boy, there's

0:26:29.480 --> 0:26:33.159
<v Speaker 1>an old reference. Now that's a knife giant knives to

0:26:33.359 --> 0:26:35.280
<v Speaker 1>you know, steak knives to pairing knives. But he hand

0:26:35.280 --> 0:26:38.560
<v Speaker 1>makes them with compressed woods and they're they're stained different

0:26:38.560 --> 0:26:41.040
<v Speaker 1>colors and just gorgeous. But so I buy a couple

0:26:41.080 --> 0:26:44.520
<v Speaker 1>of these knives. Well, you have to check them with

0:26:44.720 --> 0:26:48.000
<v Speaker 1>security as you get on the cruise ship because you

0:26:48.080 --> 0:26:51.000
<v Speaker 1>can't bring a weapon on board. So they take it

0:26:51.000 --> 0:26:52.960
<v Speaker 1>from you. They fill out a receipt, you sign it

0:26:53.000 --> 0:26:55.040
<v Speaker 1>blah blah blah, then you give it to them. Then

0:26:55.160 --> 0:26:59.440
<v Speaker 1>less than twofing hours later you can guess the rest.

0:26:59.520 --> 0:27:03.359
<v Speaker 1>I'm at the table cutting into a nice juicy steak

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<v Speaker 1>with the giant knife they've given me to do so,

0:27:06.320 --> 0:27:09.919
<v Speaker 1>which was way more capable weapon of mayhem than the

0:27:10.040 --> 0:27:15.600
<v Speaker 1>little knives I bought what the just more secureater lawyers exactly?

0:27:15.680 --> 0:27:17.639
<v Speaker 1>It says you can't bring a weapon onto the ship.

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<v Speaker 1>I get that, okay, but it's just ridiculous. How many

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<v Speaker 1>people live in Alaska? Do you know the total population?

0:27:24.720 --> 0:27:29.040
<v Speaker 1>One hundred and forty You know what I don't remember,

0:27:29.119 --> 0:27:32.760
<v Speaker 1>it's not many. Anchorage was bigger than I thought. We

0:27:32.800 --> 0:27:36.040
<v Speaker 1>did not make it to Anchorage, but it's it's six figures,

0:27:36.400 --> 0:27:38.880
<v Speaker 1>but it's by far the biggest city in Alaska. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>The reason it's the population.

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<v Speaker 3>A reason I brought up the population of Alaska is

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<v Speaker 3>this political movement that's going kind of being pushed by.

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<v Speaker 1>The socialist crowd. Of the population of I think is

0:28:52.880 --> 0:28:56.880
<v Speaker 1>North Dakota, South Dakota, Wyoming, Montana, and Alaska is less

0:28:56.920 --> 0:28:59.800
<v Speaker 1>than New York, for instance. And they and that allow

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<v Speaker 1>how many states was that that's twelve US senators for

0:29:03.760 --> 0:29:06.240
<v Speaker 1>a population less than one city. That doesn't make any sense,

0:29:06.240 --> 0:29:09.320
<v Speaker 1>which is kind of an interesting conversation to have. Alaska's

0:29:09.360 --> 0:29:13.360
<v Speaker 1>population is seven hundred and forty thousand for that big

0:29:13.400 --> 0:29:16.960
<v Speaker 1>giant space. Seven and forty thousand people in that enormous,

0:29:17.080 --> 0:29:19.960
<v Speaker 1>enormous space. Yeah. The interesting part, and I think I

0:29:20.000 --> 0:29:22.320
<v Speaker 1>may have mentioned this Friday, is that all these towns

0:29:22.320 --> 0:29:24.440
<v Speaker 1>that you may have heard of if you're a little

0:29:24.440 --> 0:29:27.440
<v Speaker 1>bit into geography, as we both are, you know, a

0:29:27.560 --> 0:29:30.960
<v Speaker 1>seword and sit cud Juno's the capital. They all have

0:29:31.160 --> 0:29:34.800
<v Speaker 1>like a few thousand people in them. You've only heard

0:29:34.800 --> 0:29:37.880
<v Speaker 1>of them because that's the only towns there are. And

0:29:37.880 --> 0:29:41.600
<v Speaker 1>it's the opposite of you know, the show has been

0:29:41.640 --> 0:29:44.840
<v Speaker 1>based out of Sacramento, California for years and years and years,

0:29:45.320 --> 0:29:48.760
<v Speaker 1>and Sack always gets overlooked because you got the Bay

0:29:48.840 --> 0:29:52.680
<v Speaker 1>Area in Los Angeles, but Sacramento metropolitan area is well

0:29:52.720 --> 0:29:55.880
<v Speaker 1>over two million people, and everybody's like, oh, is that

0:29:55.880 --> 0:29:58.400
<v Speaker 1>that's s in what Nora there? Nobody knows about it,

0:29:58.440 --> 0:30:01.240
<v Speaker 1>but a lot of people have heard of called Alaska, Sitka,

0:30:01.320 --> 0:30:04.200
<v Speaker 1>Spruce and the rest of it. But these towns are tiny.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, It's kind of an interesting topic though, and I'm

0:30:08.040 --> 0:30:12.560
<v Speaker 3>against this, but Dakota's Wyoming, Nebraska, and Alaska combined ten

0:30:12.720 --> 0:30:15.840
<v Speaker 3>senators representing him, New York gets to the state of

0:30:15.840 --> 0:30:19.120
<v Speaker 3>New York as New York City. The argument is to

0:30:19.160 --> 0:30:21.040
<v Speaker 3>why you know if you're mad get it mad at

0:30:21.160 --> 0:30:23.000
<v Speaker 3>James Madison. I don't know who first came up with

0:30:23.040 --> 0:30:26.120
<v Speaker 3>that idea, but it's kind of interesting on its own.

0:30:26.560 --> 0:30:30.320
<v Speaker 3>Among other things, we'll talk about counterintuitive look at why

0:30:30.360 --> 0:30:36.320
<v Speaker 3>this is actually bad for Ukraine that Lindsey Graham's aorta.

0:30:36.000 --> 0:30:39.920
<v Speaker 1>Gave out on him. You would think it was I'm sorry,

0:30:40.640 --> 0:30:43.720
<v Speaker 1>not the reason you think it's bad for Ukraine. That

0:30:43.800 --> 0:30:45.760
<v Speaker 1>Lindsey Graham was going to argue for more weapons and

0:30:45.840 --> 0:30:48.040
<v Speaker 1>now you don't have that voice. It's not that at all,

0:30:49.360 --> 0:30:51.720
<v Speaker 1>which I think is actually a correct so stay tuned

0:30:51.720 --> 0:31:02.920
<v Speaker 1>for that. Among other things, he Mulkan roaches, let's lie

0:31:03.880 --> 0:31:09.440
<v Speaker 1>it's pegam Serle's again. On the follow up, Dulking runches

0:31:09.560 --> 0:31:11.280
<v Speaker 1>shot spill in.

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<v Speaker 3>England's on a roll Man. Very exciting down to the

0:31:17.280 --> 0:31:19.160
<v Speaker 3>final four in World Coup. But I'm actually into soccer

0:31:19.160 --> 0:31:20.080
<v Speaker 3>for the first time in my life.

0:31:20.080 --> 0:31:23.560
<v Speaker 1>For some reason. England needs something to root for as

0:31:23.600 --> 0:31:25.160
<v Speaker 1>they die as a country.

0:31:26.120 --> 0:31:29.000
<v Speaker 3>I have some breaking news around the whole Iran thing,

0:31:31.840 --> 0:31:34.120
<v Speaker 3>and I need to nail down where this is coming from.

0:31:34.480 --> 0:31:36.880
<v Speaker 3>Mark Alprin has it breaking news on his Twitter feed

0:31:36.920 --> 0:31:40.400
<v Speaker 3>breaking US to take over Straight of horm moves. According

0:31:40.400 --> 0:31:41.600
<v Speaker 3>to who who announced that.

0:31:41.920 --> 0:31:42.560
<v Speaker 1>Trump says that.

0:31:42.720 --> 0:31:45.520
<v Speaker 3>Look, Trump says a twenty percent toll will be charged

0:31:45.520 --> 0:31:46.760
<v Speaker 3>in all all cargo.

0:31:47.840 --> 0:31:49.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure he made that hup off the top of

0:31:49.480 --> 0:31:50.040
<v Speaker 1>his head.

0:31:50.360 --> 0:31:52.480
<v Speaker 3>We're gonna take over the Straight of Horror moves. Twenty

0:31:52.520 --> 0:31:55.800
<v Speaker 3>percent toll charge in all cargo. US military will blockade

0:31:55.960 --> 0:32:00.440
<v Speaker 3>all Iranian shipping. That's the very latest, so get that

0:32:00.480 --> 0:32:05.320
<v Speaker 3>as any details come out. That's John Bolton's arguing to

0:32:05.360 --> 0:32:08.080
<v Speaker 3>take the straight in the Wall Street Journal today. The

0:32:08.080 --> 0:32:10.200
<v Speaker 3>New York Times doesn't argue for it so much as

0:32:10.240 --> 0:32:13.120
<v Speaker 3>just saying that's pretty much the only option left for

0:32:13.200 --> 0:32:15.600
<v Speaker 3>what we can do to end this thing. And Trump

0:32:15.680 --> 0:32:17.520
<v Speaker 3>might be aware of that. Wow, that's going to be

0:32:17.560 --> 0:32:20.120
<v Speaker 3>a big deal if we do that. Woo and the

0:32:20.160 --> 0:32:22.400
<v Speaker 3>former Sentcom commander yesterday, we're going to play that a

0:32:22.400 --> 0:32:24.440
<v Speaker 3>little bit later. He's arguing yesterday that we need to

0:32:24.480 --> 0:32:28.880
<v Speaker 3>take it. Seems like the voices are piling up, and

0:32:29.400 --> 0:32:31.600
<v Speaker 3>the fact that there are no other options.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, again, I ask what will that look like?

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<v Speaker 1>But I don't see another option.

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<v Speaker 3>So Lindsey Graham died over the weekend, senator from South Carolina.

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<v Speaker 3>And one of the reasons that's a big deal is

0:32:42.440 --> 0:32:45.640
<v Speaker 3>he was the hawkest, hockeyiest of the hawks out there

0:32:45.640 --> 0:32:52.200
<v Speaker 3>in terms of promoting foreign policy by war to make

0:32:52.200 --> 0:32:54.120
<v Speaker 3>the world a better place all around the world, for

0:32:54.200 --> 0:32:57.320
<v Speaker 3>better or worse. And he was certainly a hawk on

0:32:57.360 --> 0:33:01.440
<v Speaker 3>I rand and taken on Putin. In fact, he'd just

0:33:01.480 --> 0:33:05.680
<v Speaker 3>gotten back from Kiev right before he dropped dead. I

0:33:05.720 --> 0:33:08.200
<v Speaker 3>was happy with some new directions, some stuff was going.

0:33:08.240 --> 0:33:09.600
<v Speaker 3>I don't know if you caught this while you were

0:33:09.640 --> 0:33:12.760
<v Speaker 3>on vacation. Trump announced, after talking to Zelensky that they

0:33:12.800 --> 0:33:15.040
<v Speaker 3>can make their own Patriot missiles who were giving them

0:33:15.040 --> 0:33:17.719
<v Speaker 3>that technology, and they'll have the best air defense system

0:33:17.760 --> 0:33:21.600
<v Speaker 3>on planet Earth. Did you catch Zelensky's joke from the

0:33:21.680 --> 0:33:23.560
<v Speaker 3>NATO summit that was that was a good one.

0:33:23.800 --> 0:33:26.040
<v Speaker 1>I don't think so.

0:33:26.040 --> 0:33:29.760
<v Speaker 3>So Trump sitting there with Zelensky taking questions and had

0:33:29.960 --> 0:33:33.360
<v Speaker 3>gotten on the phone with Putin, and Trump sitting there

0:33:33.360 --> 0:33:35.520
<v Speaker 3>and saying so Putin says he wants to meet. He

0:33:35.560 --> 0:33:37.360
<v Speaker 3>wants to meet. I know you guys don't like each other.

0:33:37.400 --> 0:33:39.000
<v Speaker 3>He said, you can meet in Moscow. Would you meet

0:33:39.000 --> 0:33:41.480
<v Speaker 3>in Moscow? Probably not? And Zelensky said, I don't know.

0:33:41.560 --> 0:33:44.680
<v Speaker 3>Moscow is very dangerous. There's very many Ukrainian drones.

0:33:44.400 --> 0:33:47.480
<v Speaker 2>There, sir.

0:33:48.560 --> 0:33:54.520
<v Speaker 1>I mean they hit an oil refinery in Siberia like

0:33:54.560 --> 0:33:57.160
<v Speaker 1>a thousand miles away and blew it up. So there,

0:33:57.520 --> 0:33:59.920
<v Speaker 1>so you add that in with these Patriot missiles and

0:34:00.840 --> 0:34:03.680
<v Speaker 1>Ukraine is definitely on the front foot. And here's Mark

0:34:03.680 --> 0:34:10.920
<v Speaker 1>Alprin's counterintuitive on why Lindsey Graham dying is bad news

0:34:10.960 --> 0:34:14.440
<v Speaker 1>for Ukraine. Not because he was such a forceful proponent

0:34:14.560 --> 0:34:19.480
<v Speaker 1>of arming Ukraine, because he was the only guy, like

0:34:19.520 --> 0:34:22.439
<v Speaker 1>the old only Nixon could go to China. Nixon had

0:34:22.719 --> 0:34:28.239
<v Speaker 1>such anti communist credibility built up over so many decades

0:34:28.719 --> 0:34:30.560
<v Speaker 1>that he could go to China and try to deal

0:34:30.640 --> 0:34:34.200
<v Speaker 1>with them without people saying, oh, he's a commie. Lindsey

0:34:34.239 --> 0:34:36.719
<v Speaker 1>Graham was the only guy, according to Mark Alprin, on

0:34:37.080 --> 0:34:42.279
<v Speaker 1>Earth that Zelensky would have believed or listened to, could

0:34:42.280 --> 0:34:44.719
<v Speaker 1>come to him and say, I think this is goot

0:34:44.760 --> 0:34:46.359
<v Speaker 1>a deal. As you're going to get you should give

0:34:46.400 --> 0:34:48.000
<v Speaker 1>up the territory and make a deal here.

0:34:48.440 --> 0:34:52.360
<v Speaker 3>Oh and that's probably true because he was such a

0:34:52.440 --> 0:34:56.720
<v Speaker 3>hawk for so long on supporting Ukraine. If Lindsey Graham

0:34:56.880 --> 0:34:58.600
<v Speaker 3>came in and sat down and said, you know how

0:34:58.640 --> 0:35:01.600
<v Speaker 3>I feel about it, you know how much I hate Putin.

0:35:02.480 --> 0:35:05.080
<v Speaker 3>This is as good as it's gonna get Zelensky to

0:35:05.160 --> 0:35:07.279
<v Speaker 3>listen to them, and there's nobody to take that role.

0:35:08.320 --> 0:35:14.680
<v Speaker 1>Wow, wow, wow wow maybe Marco. But yeah, well, huh

0:35:14.719 --> 0:35:19.879
<v Speaker 1>twists in turns of history. It's amazing. Well, you got

0:35:19.880 --> 0:35:24.520
<v Speaker 1>these really pieces of garbage that's unnecessarily harsh. You got

0:35:24.520 --> 0:35:28.920
<v Speaker 1>these completely useless ancient senators who live forever. Why's the

0:35:29.080 --> 0:35:33.680
<v Speaker 1>Lindsey Graham gotta go? Okay, well answer why did bad

0:35:33.719 --> 0:35:37.239
<v Speaker 1>things happen to good people? Next hour, stay with us.

0:35:39.000 --> 0:35:41.799
<v Speaker 1>I actually do want to get to the topic of

0:35:41.960 --> 0:35:45.920
<v Speaker 1>soft on crime policies and how completely insane they are.

0:35:46.160 --> 0:35:48.520
<v Speaker 1>I mean, they're more nuts than you think they are.

0:35:48.800 --> 0:35:53.279
<v Speaker 1>When you look at who is most likely to hurt you,

0:35:53.400 --> 0:35:56.480
<v Speaker 1>kill you, take your stuff, rape your daughter, et cetera.

0:35:56.760 --> 0:35:58.960
<v Speaker 1>We know who these people are and we know what

0:35:59.000 --> 0:36:01.680
<v Speaker 1>to do about them. Marxists want to turn them loose

0:36:01.719 --> 0:36:04.120
<v Speaker 1>on the street. They're just they're a menace.

0:36:06.840 --> 0:36:10.080
<v Speaker 3>I got to dig into this so called breaking news

0:36:10.160 --> 0:36:13.000
<v Speaker 3>that the United States is going to open the strait

0:36:14.160 --> 0:36:16.600
<v Speaker 3>and charge a twenty percent told everyone.

0:36:16.480 --> 0:36:19.480
<v Speaker 1>Are we cover the expense? Yeah?

0:36:19.640 --> 0:36:22.200
<v Speaker 3>I wonder how Pete feels about that. Pete hegseats They says,

0:36:22.200 --> 0:36:24.080
<v Speaker 3>sure we could do that? Or is he saying whoa, whoa,

0:36:24.200 --> 0:36:25.919
<v Speaker 3>this is going to be quite the project. I want

0:36:25.920 --> 0:36:27.439
<v Speaker 3>you to know what you're getting into here.

0:36:28.400 --> 0:36:31.000
<v Speaker 1>I hope he both. Yeah.

0:36:31.000 --> 0:36:33.279
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