1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:02,040 Speaker 1: Can't. I am six forty. 2 00:00:02,120 --> 00:00:05,520 Speaker 2: You're listening to the John Coblt podcast on the iHeartRadio app. 3 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:08,640 Speaker 2: We are on the radio every day between one and 4 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:11,000 Speaker 2: four o'clock in the afternoon, and then after four o'clock. 5 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:14,720 Speaker 2: If you miss stuff John Coblt Show on demand. It's 6 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:18,279 Speaker 2: the podcast runs forever and so you could hear every 7 00:00:18,360 --> 00:00:21,800 Speaker 2: single minute, even even if you miss the original show. 8 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:22,760 Speaker 1: You can run it all day. 9 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:27,440 Speaker 2: And so thank you for coming and listening on the 10 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 2: schedule today about half an hour going to Alex Stone 11 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:34,560 Speaker 2: from ABC News focus on the Altadena fire, the eaton 12 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:40,199 Speaker 2: fire because now there's videos that show that flash on 13 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:42,839 Speaker 2: the so Cal Edison lines in high winds. 14 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 1: But it's funny. 15 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 2: So Cal Edison is pretending like there is no video 16 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 2: with flashes emanating from the lines. They keep saying they 17 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 2: haven't seen any evidence, but the video has the evidence. 18 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 2: They're incredible, and faults were registered as well. Yesterday they 19 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 2: were trying to blame a homeless encampment, which I'm all 20 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:11,120 Speaker 2: for blaming homeless encampments, but it has to be true 21 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:14,760 Speaker 2: that camp was nine hundred yards away from the wire 22 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:18,120 Speaker 2: where the fire started, or from the tower where the 23 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:20,679 Speaker 2: fire started. So we'll talk to Alex about that. And 24 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 2: also we're going to talk two thirty two Congressman Vince Vaughn, 25 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 2: formerly in the legislature in Sacramento, recently won an election 26 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 2: and now he's representing Bakersfield in Congress, and he is 27 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 2: going to talk about Trump's wildfire relief plan here for California. 28 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:45,480 Speaker 2: It's pretty obvious that Bass and Newsom are going to 29 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 2: rely heavily on Trump to bail them out of the 30 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 2: mess that they created. Yesterday, Karen Bass did a half 31 00:01:56,760 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 2: hour walk. This is one of these showmanship things with 32 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 2: Steve sober Off. Sober Off has been a developer and 33 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 2: a city official at various times in the past, a 34 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 2: background similar to Caruso, you know, developed developed properties and 35 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:17,640 Speaker 2: also it has been on I believe the Police Commission 36 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 2: and other other bodies and acts as I think he 37 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 2: was at top aid to Dick reared him in the 38 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:28,640 Speaker 2: nineteen nineties, back when Los Angeles ran properly. So they 39 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 2: have They did this walk and talk thing for half 40 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 2: an hour. They hadn't been seen, they hadn't talked well. 41 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 2: Was the first time they took questions together since he 42 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 2: was announced. It was announced that he was going to 43 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:45,120 Speaker 2: lead the recovery plan, and that was ten days. So 44 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 2: ten days you didn't have these two get taken questions together. 45 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 2: And it's pretty clear that she's going to try to 46 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 2: hide behind him because she has no experience in this. 47 00:02:56,560 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 2: You know, he's got some experience in government, working working 48 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:04,920 Speaker 2: at the executive level with reared and a lot of 49 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 2: experience developing things and experience on those commissions. 50 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 1: But she's got none of this. 51 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 2: And so she doesn't have the vocabulary, she doesn't have 52 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:17,520 Speaker 2: the references, the experience. She can't relate because this is 53 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:19,919 Speaker 2: not what she did all her life. Which she did 54 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 2: all the life. Is she sat at meetings, you know, 55 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 2: task forces and blue ribbon panels and committee hearings and 56 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 2: just everybody bloviate's nonsense. But when you're talking about a 57 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 2: gigantic reclamation project, the likes of which I don't think 58 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 2: America has ever seen, at least not from a fire. 59 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 2: I guess the closest might have been Katrina and New Orleans, 60 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 2: you got to have a guy who has, you know, 61 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 2: a fair amount of experience in these fields, because she 62 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 2: certainly and you know what, it's pretty clear that nobody 63 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 2: really has faith in her there was because within this 64 00:03:56,520 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 2: story they started talking to some well residents and the 65 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:09,120 Speaker 2: reporter came across someone named star Peroti it's a woman, 66 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 2: and Jeff Fair, and they found Bass. Whatever Bass was 67 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 2: trying to say to try to assure people that everything's 68 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:21,600 Speaker 2: going to be okay, these two flatly, flatly did not 69 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 2: find it credible. They just she's She's not credible. After 70 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:30,919 Speaker 2: this horrific response, one of the worst responses ever to 71 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 2: a major disaster, John isn't. 72 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:36,039 Speaker 3: There also some confusion on the whole debris removal because 73 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:39,279 Speaker 3: President Trump and Bass got into it right last week 74 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:41,480 Speaker 3: over you know, Bass was saying, you know, we need 75 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 3: to keep you safe, and we need to do this, 76 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:45,160 Speaker 3: and we need to do that. And then Trump said, look, 77 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 3: let people go home and if they want to just 78 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:50,719 Speaker 3: scoop up their stuff into you know, big trash bins 79 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:51,599 Speaker 3: or whatever, let. 80 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 4: Them do it. 81 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:54,719 Speaker 3: And and you know, they were going back and forth 82 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 3: on that, and Bass said, okay, well they can, but 83 00:04:56,680 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 3: they can't because they need to hire some They can 84 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:02,359 Speaker 3: opt in to have the Army Corps of Engineers do it, 85 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:04,279 Speaker 3: or they can hire their own person, but their own 86 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 3: person or company has to be permitted so there's a 87 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:09,280 Speaker 3: whole process I have to go through. 88 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 2: She she was she was lying because she was intimidated 89 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 2: by Trump and kept saying, Oh, no, they can go, 90 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:16,480 Speaker 2: they can go, Yeah, yeah they can. 91 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 1: Well, well they can't. 92 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:23,160 Speaker 2: Go because the government doesn't allow any random guy with 93 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:26,160 Speaker 2: a with a dump truck to show up and claim 94 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:30,160 Speaker 2: he does toxic waste removal. So yeah, there is there 95 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 2: is a permitting process there. There, There always is for 96 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 2: this stuff. 97 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 1: There. 98 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 2: You you can't hang up a picture frame in Los 99 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 2: Angeles without getting a permit from some kakamm agency. I 100 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 2: have a friend who's been uh, who's spent like several 101 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 2: years trying to redo his garage, and it's it's hard 102 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 2: to explain, but he just wanted to use the garage 103 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 2: for something else other than a garage. And this created 104 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:04,279 Speaker 2: this whole conundrum, this big circle jerk really with with 105 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 2: with city hall inspectors over what to call the thing 106 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 2: and whether it should be permitted or not. And there 107 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:12,359 Speaker 2: was just just them but delays and arguments, and it 108 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 2: was I couldn't follow it. That's why I can't explain 109 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 2: it now. I still he told it to me twice. 110 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 2: I have no idea what the problem was about. But 111 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 2: these people, they just fled out. I don't believe anything, 112 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 2: Karen Bass says, because Star Parati said, uh, I guess 113 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:34,240 Speaker 2: this is a couple. When they saw flames begin to 114 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 2: lap at their Palisades house, they have a ring camera. 115 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 2: Parati says, she called nine one one, and the dispatcher replied, 116 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 2: we don't have the resources. Everyone is out. We don't 117 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:52,039 Speaker 2: have the resources. Everyone is out, and then refused to 118 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 2: take a report. Now she's at the the flames are 119 00:06:56,080 --> 00:07:03,040 Speaker 2: right at the edge of her property, so no report, 120 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:05,159 Speaker 2: no one to call. What does that mean? You're not 121 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 2: getting any help? And Parati said, no firefighters ever came. 122 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 2: So she and her husband and their daughter staring at 123 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 2: their ring camera while they were evacuated, and they were 124 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 2: hoping to see a fire truck pass by the house 125 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 2: and then almost as aside. The La Times talks about 126 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 2: her voting history, how she was torn between Bass and 127 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 2: Caruso in twenty twenty two. Ultimately went for Caruso, but 128 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 2: she always tried to support female candidates of color like Bass, 129 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 2: and I stared at it. That stopped me and I thought, well, 130 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 2: you could see how important a mayor is, especially when 131 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 2: a disaster like this happens, not only having the proper response, 132 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:03,559 Speaker 2: but then the proper recovery leadership. And you're looking at 133 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 2: whether you know about her, You're looking at her lady 134 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 2: parts and her skin tone, her color. What I looked 135 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 2: at this and I just wanted to scream as everybody insane. 136 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:22,680 Speaker 2: You're looking to see what gender she is, and you're 137 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 2: looking to see what color she is instead of stopping 138 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 2: and thinking this through, what do you need? An executive? 139 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:35,959 Speaker 2: And again Caruso's standing right next to her right, and 140 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 2: it's like, well, that guy's run big organizations and employs 141 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 2: lots of people and deals with complex problems. You look 142 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 2: at Karen Bass and it's like, well, she's a certain 143 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 2: color and she's a girl. 144 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 1: It's no wonder we're in the state we're in now. 145 00:08:56,520 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 2: If she's a certain color and she's a girl and 146 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 2: she also has Caruso's executive background, now you got something here. 147 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 2: You want to give her the edge because she has 148 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 2: the color you're looking for or the gender you're looking for. 149 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:20,199 Speaker 2: But really, his experience, his resume blows hers away. 150 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 1: A thousand times over. How is it even close? But 151 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:26,719 Speaker 1: what do I know? She won by ten points. 152 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:33,200 Speaker 2: Because we have a bizarre population in California that does 153 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:36,600 Speaker 2: vote based on your sexual parts and your skin color 154 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 2: and nothing else matters, apparently, you know, until the big 155 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:48,600 Speaker 2: fire comes. But to Star Paroti's credit, now she believed, well, 156 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:51,320 Speaker 2: she did vote for Crusoe and says Bass did not 157 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 2: organize the city to face the fire, and Paroti's home 158 00:09:57,720 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 2: was incinerated along with Now this is this is sad. 159 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 2: They had musical treasures that she and her husband had 160 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:09,679 Speaker 2: collected over thirty years their composers. They had had two Grammys, 161 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:14,199 Speaker 2: and they had a nineteen twenty eight Steinway piano that 162 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 2: Parati said she was told it was used on an 163 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 2: MGM sound stage to record the music for the Wizard 164 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:28,319 Speaker 2: of Oz. So that's extremely sad, very valuable, very nostalgic 165 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:34,119 Speaker 2: and sentimental. Our homes, our communities, our lives are important. 166 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:39,560 Speaker 2: You don't choose a person to protect your home, to 167 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:45,680 Speaker 2: protect your everything that you're worth, based on their color 168 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:50,200 Speaker 2: and their gender parts. I mean, I mean that that's 169 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 2: just asking for it. You do that enough and you're 170 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:58,319 Speaker 2: going to get this instead of going somebody with a 171 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:03,679 Speaker 2: long record of experience and accomplishments and certain talents and abilities. 172 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:06,440 Speaker 2: I can't believe, after all these years, you have to 173 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 2: say this out loud and it sounds radical. 174 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 1: How to take a break. 175 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 5: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from kf I 176 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 5: am six forty. 177 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:20,480 Speaker 2: Continue going through responses that the La Times found. Now 178 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 2: that they're opening up the palisades, people are visiting the 179 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 2: rubble of their homes. Karen Bass and Steve Soberoff did 180 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 2: basically a photo op. They walked around for half an 181 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:39,120 Speaker 2: hour taking questions. Of course, you know the most important 182 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:46,680 Speaker 2: questions about the botched response. I still haven't seen happen yet. 183 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 2: I mean, she ought to be forced. She ought to 184 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 2: be tied down and forced to explain the hell. 185 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 1: Has she been doing? 186 00:11:56,360 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 2: When she when when she got those those extreme fire 187 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:03,720 Speaker 2: warm announcements, why did she decide to board a plane 188 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 2: to Ghana? I mean she really ought to be I 189 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:12,480 Speaker 2: mean investigated and forced to testify under oath to give 190 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:14,599 Speaker 2: the answer. And you know what, She's got to be 191 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 2: questioned the way a prosecutor would and nail her down. 192 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:22,920 Speaker 2: It's like, so, miss Bass, you thought it was more 193 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:28,560 Speaker 2: urgent to attend the President of Ghana's inauguration than protect 194 00:12:28,679 --> 00:12:31,840 Speaker 2: a city of four million people from potential one hundred 195 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 2: mile an hour winds. With a proper fire response, it 196 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 2: has to be worded and delivered in a very blunt, 197 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:44,960 Speaker 2: direct manner. It's like, so, what were your priorities here? 198 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 2: Extreme fire warning one hundred mile an hour wins? You 199 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 2: know what that does in the San Ana season, and 200 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:55,559 Speaker 2: you thought it was more important to go to where 201 00:12:56,360 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 2: to do what? Boy, I'd give a couple of my 202 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 2: body parts to hear anybody question her publicly about that reporter, 203 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:15,200 Speaker 2: a citizen, just some jerk on the street, maybe maybe 204 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 2: a prosecuting attorney. So anyway, the Times went to talk 205 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 2: to people and to see who they voted for. That 206 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 2: away was fascinated because me, I think you look at 207 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 2: somebody's intelligence, somebody's experience, their their their their list of achievements, 208 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 2: like their ability to execute. Now they may have a 209 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:45,000 Speaker 2: set of solutions that you disagree with, and you might 210 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:48,040 Speaker 2: vote for the other guy, the other woman, the other party, right, 211 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 2: but at least you want to know that if they 212 00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:54,600 Speaker 2: do get in power, that they'll be able to execute 213 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 2: the basics such as have the intelligence to pass on 214 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:02,440 Speaker 2: the aff a trip when you have extreme fire warnings 215 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 2: to send a squadron of fire trucks and firefighters to 216 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 2: all the high risk cities, high risk neighborhoods in the city. 217 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 2: So I told you they were talking to Star Parati 218 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 2: and Jeff Fair. They are a couple who suffered some 219 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 2: terrible losses, lost their entire home. And Parati, who did 220 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 2: vote for Caruso, said I feel like she's done a 221 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 2: very incompetent job. 222 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 1: Karen Bass probably has a good heart. 223 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:36,640 Speaker 2: But if you know Los Angeles and you know there's 224 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 2: going to be a Santa Ana wind event, why would 225 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 2: you go out of the country. That felt bad, felt 226 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 2: like abandonment was abandonment, didn't care. Parati's frustration, says The Times, 227 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 2: was shared by Christopher and Magda Murphy, independent voters who 228 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 2: lost their house in the Palisades as well. Whore really 229 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 2: disappointed she was on a junket to Ghana. Were disappointed 230 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 2: they didn't take precautions with the fire trucks to disperse 231 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 2: them around the city like they did in twenty eleven 232 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:09,560 Speaker 2: during an earlier threat. 233 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:11,680 Speaker 1: Ah, so they have a memory. 234 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:15,680 Speaker 2: That we had a big Santa Ana win and the 235 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:17,800 Speaker 2: trucks were dispersed around the city. Boy, that would have 236 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 2: been that would have been via Gosa. They could have 237 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:30,800 Speaker 2: been more aggressive, said Christopher Murphy. He voted for Crusoe Magna. 238 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 2: Murphy says she should resign. She admitted voting for bass. 239 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 2: Why did she leave? Why didn't they stop the fire 240 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 2: when it was a small one. It's like a parent 241 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 2: leaving your kids abandoned being in danger. 242 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 1: Ah. 243 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:47,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a little bit of faulty thinking there, not 244 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 2: as faulty as voting for people based on their genitals 245 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 2: and skin color. But the idea that these people are 246 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 2: our parents and have the same care that most of 247 00:15:56,760 --> 00:16:00,960 Speaker 2: our parents would have for us. No, they don't. And 248 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:07,760 Speaker 2: this childlike belief that political leaders care about you is 249 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:14,360 Speaker 2: astonishing to me. I have read that most of the time. 250 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 2: For example, in a presidential race, the key question that 251 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 2: will give you an indication who would win is the 252 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 2: question does he understand people like you? 253 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:32,200 Speaker 1: Does he relate to people like you? 254 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 2: And the candidate that gets the higher rating on that 255 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 2: question tends to win because people vote for people vote 256 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:46,720 Speaker 2: for candidates who Yeah, you know, he understands me, He's 257 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 2: going to be working for me. 258 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:54,600 Speaker 1: No they don't, No, they don't. They work for. 259 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:58,480 Speaker 2: Themselves to achieve whatever they want in their career, to 260 00:16:58,520 --> 00:17:02,320 Speaker 2: climb the political ladder, to give themselves some kind of legacy. 261 00:17:02,520 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 2: Maybe some of that coincides with policies that work for 262 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 2: people like you, but that's not their intention. I guess 263 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:15,160 Speaker 2: we were all brainwashed as children by all the idiot 264 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:17,639 Speaker 2: teachers who taught us civics. 265 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 5: More coming up, you're listening to John cobelts on demand 266 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:24,240 Speaker 5: from KFI A six forty. 267 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:26,680 Speaker 2: We are on every day from one until four and 268 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:27,600 Speaker 2: then after four o'clock. 269 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:28,800 Speaker 1: John Cobelt's show. 270 00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:32,720 Speaker 2: On demand on the iHeart app and at John Cobelt Radio. 271 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 2: Is how you can follow us on social media at 272 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:35,560 Speaker 2: John Cobelt Radio. 273 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:39,080 Speaker 1: All right, Next up the Altadena fire. 274 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 2: The eaton Fire Alex Stone from ABC News because videos 275 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 2: have surfaced that show sparking flashes on so Cal Edison 276 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:56,119 Speaker 2: lines while the winds were blowing hard the night of 277 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 2: the fire, and then the fire starting just below those 278 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:03,439 Speaker 2: wires bottom of a tower. Let's talk to Alex because 279 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 2: so Cal Edison keeps trying to say that there's no 280 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:10,760 Speaker 2: evidence yet that they had anything to do with the fire. 281 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 1: Alex, how are you hey? They're John. 282 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:15,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, they say that they haven't seen anything that shows 283 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:17,879 Speaker 2: it was their equipment, but officially that the cause of 284 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 2: Eaton fire has not been determined. But there are a 285 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:25,280 Speaker 2: bunch of lawsuits against Southern California Edison based on videos 286 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:29,480 Speaker 2: and witnesses who say that they saw it begin under 287 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 2: a so Cal Edison tower in Eden Canyon. And now 288 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:36,160 Speaker 2: there is this new video that's being presented by attorneys 289 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 2: for one of the wildfire victims, and they say it 290 00:18:39,880 --> 00:18:43,439 Speaker 2: shows arcing on those power lines at six to eleven 291 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:46,920 Speaker 2: PM on January seventh, then there is immediately a tiny 292 00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:49,720 Speaker 2: glow of fire below the power lines, and then at 293 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 2: six eighteen a bigger fire under that tower, and then 294 00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 2: it really takes off from there. 295 00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:55,960 Speaker 1: So this is an. 296 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 2: Attorney for that victim. They presented the video in court, 297 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:02,120 Speaker 2: they are releasing it now and the attorneys saying. 298 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:05,159 Speaker 6: We see what is unequivocally arking at the very origin 299 00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:08,360 Speaker 6: of this fire. We know that their equipment was involved 300 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 6: in this, and now it's just a matter of determining 301 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:11,160 Speaker 6: why did this happen. 302 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 2: So there was a court hearing yesterday. The judge said 303 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 2: none of so Cal Edison's equipment in the fire zone. 304 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:18,720 Speaker 2: They cannot alter it. They cannot destroy it because that 305 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 2: is potential evidence in there. And the attorneys claim that 306 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:24,760 Speaker 2: so cal Edison was going to hide evidence showing their 307 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 2: responsibility for the fire. 308 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:27,200 Speaker 1: That's a claim that they're making. 309 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:32,719 Speaker 6: And see had plants to unilaterally potentially destroy evidence in 310 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 6: this case, but the court's order. 311 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 1: Puts a stop to that. 312 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:39,159 Speaker 2: Now, we all know living in California that a lot 313 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:41,760 Speaker 2: of the big wildfires over the years that they've linked 314 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:44,719 Speaker 2: back to the power lines in high winds, I think Lehina, 315 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:49,440 Speaker 2: Santa Rosa, Paradise, and at least in Santa Rosa and Paradise. 316 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 2: It took a very long time for PG and E 317 00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:56,840 Speaker 2: to take responsibility Pacific Gas Electric in those and to 318 00:19:56,920 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 2: determine that they were a fold for those ryl cou 319 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:03,320 Speaker 2: lives in the area. She backs up what the video 320 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:04,280 Speaker 2: appears to show. 321 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:06,159 Speaker 7: Up at that time that when we saw it, it 322 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:09,679 Speaker 7: was just at the base of the tower, and within 323 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:11,439 Speaker 7: minutes it had spread. 324 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:14,240 Speaker 2: So now so cal Edison John, they are saying, first 325 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:16,000 Speaker 2: of all, they're saying that they have found there is 326 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:19,760 Speaker 2: a homeless encampment kind of near that tower, insinuating that 327 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:23,359 Speaker 2: maybe that was responsible for it. Somebody in that homeless encampment. 328 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:26,920 Speaker 2: The attorneys are saying, no, that that there's no indication 329 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:30,600 Speaker 2: of that. It is not where the initial fire is. 330 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:33,480 Speaker 2: I read it was three hundred yards away, Yeah, and 331 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:36,720 Speaker 2: they don't see any indication that there was any burning there. 332 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:39,680 Speaker 2: The attorneys are arguing that that is a distraction from 333 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:41,680 Speaker 2: so Cal Edison trying to say, well, look over here, 334 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:45,119 Speaker 2: maybe it was this. Kathleen Dunleavy was so Cal Edison says, 335 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:48,120 Speaker 2: they are looking at this video that they after they 336 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 2: got it from the New York Times, they gave it 337 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:52,400 Speaker 2: to fire investigators who had not seen it. It's from 338 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:55,879 Speaker 2: an ARCO in Altadena, and you know they're looking at 339 00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:58,119 Speaker 2: the gas pumps, but it's in the up in the 340 00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:01,160 Speaker 2: corner of it. And that now sokel Edison they're looking 341 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:01,600 Speaker 2: at the video. 342 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:07,520 Speaker 7: Atheneo requires careful analysis and it's premature for anyone to 343 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:11,560 Speaker 7: be speculating on what the video footage means before it 344 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 7: goes to investigators. 345 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:15,439 Speaker 2: And so she says the company has seen and she 346 00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 2: told me yesterday that the company has seen no faults 347 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:21,240 Speaker 2: on the line in that area of the fire area 348 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:24,000 Speaker 2: and Eaton Canyon, that they don't see anything indicating that 349 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:24,679 Speaker 2: they had a problem. 350 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:27,440 Speaker 4: We did not find any faults onlines. 351 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:28,360 Speaker 5: What we did is a. 352 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:31,400 Speaker 7: Deeper dive and we found some distant lines that did 353 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:34,119 Speaker 7: have some faults, but they don't serve the canyon. 354 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:37,040 Speaker 2: So the faults that they did see on those distant lines, 355 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:39,119 Speaker 2: according to a filing with the state, they were about 356 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:41,959 Speaker 2: five miles away, and they say the fault five miles 357 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:46,119 Speaker 2: away kept everything within parameters in the fire area. But 358 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:49,440 Speaker 2: they say that they see nothing in the fire area 359 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:51,359 Speaker 2: that they would have come back to them. But these 360 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:54,120 Speaker 2: attorneys are saying, look, it's on the video that maybe 361 00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:57,600 Speaker 2: that fault five miles away sent a surge of electricity 362 00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:00,639 Speaker 2: down the line and it sparked in the fire and 363 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 2: you had the ar king there. So cal Edison's saying no, 364 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:06,679 Speaker 2: but we know those lines were not de energized. Others 365 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:10,639 Speaker 2: were in the area. Because Edison is saying that these 366 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:13,359 Speaker 2: are our lines that should have been able to stand 367 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:15,960 Speaker 2: higher winds and not have had a problem like some 368 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:18,040 Speaker 2: of the ones that they did de energize. So they 369 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:21,280 Speaker 2: left these energized during the fire, and they did have 370 00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:24,399 Speaker 2: power going through them. So we'll see where this goes. 371 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:27,560 Speaker 2: This is part of one lawsuit of many. But this 372 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:30,399 Speaker 2: new video now showing what may have been the beginning 373 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:33,919 Speaker 2: of the eat and fire. Did they say that the 374 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:38,159 Speaker 2: winds weren't strong enough to justify shutting down the shutting 375 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:40,440 Speaker 2: down the air? Yeah, these lines, because they were saying 376 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:42,720 Speaker 2: that you know, all the different lines, these were high 377 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:45,240 Speaker 2: tension power lines, that all the different lines have different 378 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:50,200 Speaker 2: wind capability, and that they claimed that these were well 379 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:54,919 Speaker 2: within the rules to stay energized in those winds on 380 00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:57,639 Speaker 2: Tuesday night, and that others that weren't that they de 381 00:22:57,760 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 2: energized those and there were public safety power shut offs 382 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:02,760 Speaker 2: and people lost their power in those areas, but that 383 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 2: these were bigger lines that did they claim we were. 384 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:07,240 Speaker 1: Good in that win. 385 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:09,879 Speaker 2: All right, very good, Alex, thank you, you got it. 386 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:17,240 Speaker 2: Thanks John Alex Stone from KFI News. See modern life 387 00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:22,200 Speaker 2: means nobody tells the truth in public when people screw 388 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:25,480 Speaker 2: up to admit it means now you're on the block 389 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:28,879 Speaker 2: in a lawsuit, you're gonna be held liable. You're going 390 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 2: to be held up for public scorn and ridicule, which 391 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:34,800 Speaker 2: you should be. Which is why Karen Bass is not 392 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:38,400 Speaker 2: addressing all the costs on the stakes she made, and 393 00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:43,119 Speaker 2: so cal Edison doesn't want to publicly admit it's going 394 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:46,040 Speaker 2: to cost the company probably billions of dollars. I think 395 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:47,919 Speaker 2: it's gonna cost them anyway. I mean, if this is 396 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:53,440 Speaker 2: definitive video that they fire started here with those lines sparking, 397 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 2: and if they didn't de energize the lines, and it 398 00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:58,919 Speaker 2: doesn't matter if it meets the standards or not. What 399 00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:02,119 Speaker 2: matters whether in that moment, whatever the wind was, it 400 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:06,800 Speaker 2: was enough to cause the arking. Maybe the lines touched, 401 00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:12,520 Speaker 2: which avoids the main question is why aren't all the 402 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:16,720 Speaker 2: transmission lines after all these years been put underground? What 403 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:19,320 Speaker 2: are we dealing with this for ae hundred years now? 404 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:25,119 Speaker 2: Dig a hole, lay them underground. Stop yacking about the cost. 405 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:29,440 Speaker 2: The cost of these fires is far, far, far more 406 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:32,639 Speaker 2: than the cost of laying down the transmission lines. The 407 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:37,040 Speaker 2: answers are known. That's what's frustrating here. The answers to 408 00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 2: a lot of this stuff are known. The money exists, 409 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:48,040 Speaker 2: and they just don't care. You can't make Karen Bass care. 410 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:51,440 Speaker 2: You can't make the so cal Edison executives care. They 411 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:55,320 Speaker 2: don't more coming up. 412 00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:59,880 Speaker 5: You're listening to John Cobbels on demand from Kifi. 413 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:03,120 Speaker 1: Do you remember the drones. 414 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:08,080 Speaker 2: Boy, that seems so long ago, the drones especially that 415 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:13,199 Speaker 2: were swirling over New Jersey. Was that December? Yes, that 416 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:17,440 Speaker 2: was before Christmas. Yes, I'm looking at a picture here. 417 00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:22,520 Speaker 2: December fifth was one of the Knights. Well, the White 418 00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:25,240 Speaker 2: House Press secretary. There's a new one named Caroline Levitt. 419 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:25,840 Speaker 2: Have you seen her? 420 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:27,199 Speaker 4: Yeah? Do you know how old she is? 421 00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 1: Twelve? 422 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 4: She looks twelve. 423 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:33,720 Speaker 1: She does look twelve. She sounds twelve. Yeah, I think 424 00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:34,840 Speaker 1: she's twenty seven. 425 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:39,520 Speaker 2: Yep. Yeah, youngest Press secretary ever and she sounds it too. 426 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:41,920 Speaker 4: Yeah. And she's a pretty blonde. 427 00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:47,159 Speaker 1: They were young, pretty blondeeah. Yeah, Well it's good to 428 00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:47,840 Speaker 1: be the president. 429 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:51,000 Speaker 4: Yeah. I would imagine. 430 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:53,960 Speaker 2: Any fat, ugly trolls show up to apply for a 431 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:54,720 Speaker 2: White House job. 432 00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 4: Not under the Trump administration. 433 00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 2: Oh no, there were a few under the Biden administration. 434 00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 2: But anyway, Caroline Levitt, she does speak clearly, and she 435 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:07,840 Speaker 2: announced that all the I mean they're not denying the 436 00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:11,040 Speaker 2: drones existed, but she said they were flown by the 437 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:16,600 Speaker 2: FAA for research purposes and various other reasons. And then, 438 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:23,720 Speaker 2: as the whole incident became popularized, hobbyists and private individuals 439 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 2: they all joined in and started sending up their drones, 440 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:31,000 Speaker 2: so that made the skies even more crowded. Now, what 441 00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:36,120 Speaker 2: she didn't explain was why'd they do this? What kind 442 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:36,720 Speaker 2: of research? 443 00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:39,040 Speaker 3: And why did it take this long for us to 444 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:40,600 Speaker 3: finally know the truth. 445 00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:43,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's almost February. 446 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:46,040 Speaker 2: It took almost two months for them to tell us 447 00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 2: that it was FAA research. Now the way the Biden 448 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 2: administration reacted and even Trump it and and they reiterated 449 00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:59,120 Speaker 2: today that these were not enemy drones that were swarming us. 450 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:03,399 Speaker 2: And you got that feeling because the reaction was so muted. 451 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:07,119 Speaker 2: And this is not really an explanation. And also it 452 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:10,560 Speaker 2: could be a cover story. I'm not assuming anybody tells 453 00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:13,280 Speaker 2: us the truth that's true, and it may still be 454 00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:16,160 Speaker 2: some kind of classified military experiment that they were doing. 455 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:20,120 Speaker 2: I mean, you could see if you wanted to invade 456 00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:24,119 Speaker 2: somebody or disorient their population or panic people, that you 457 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:28,000 Speaker 2: would do a test run, send in dozens or hundreds 458 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:31,720 Speaker 2: of drones in formation and have them start swirling around 459 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:36,359 Speaker 2: and then see what happened, see how the human species reacts. 460 00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:38,880 Speaker 3: But doesn't it make you feel better that it's part 461 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:42,240 Speaker 3: of the FAA was it was something that they were 462 00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:44,919 Speaker 3: perhaps involved with, because I think people were so freaked 463 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:47,479 Speaker 3: out because nobody was telling us what was going on. 464 00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:49,679 Speaker 3: People were thinking, oh, is this a different country. Are 465 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:50,840 Speaker 3: they spying what's going on? 466 00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:51,800 Speaker 1: You know China? 467 00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:52,120 Speaker 4: Right? 468 00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:55,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, because they had that balloon exactly from a couple 469 00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:56,120 Speaker 2: of years ago. 470 00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:59,439 Speaker 3: So we were all freaking out, well not all, but 471 00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:01,800 Speaker 3: a lot of people, especially New Jersey, we're freaking out 472 00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:03,359 Speaker 3: probably for nothing. 473 00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:05,600 Speaker 1: Well when you see dozens of them all at once. 474 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:08,959 Speaker 3: But this, I mean, just why didn't anybody explain it 475 00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:10,359 Speaker 3: just like she did today? 476 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:11,280 Speaker 1: I don't know. 477 00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:16,360 Speaker 2: See, that's that's the Biden administration. They did a lot 478 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:20,840 Speaker 2: of things that made no sense. And if this is true, 479 00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:23,359 Speaker 2: if this isn't just a covera sing, so I'm completely 480 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:27,240 Speaker 2: cynical and skeptical of anybody who gets a government paycheck, 481 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:30,120 Speaker 2: and really almost anybody in public life, whether it's whether 482 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:33,280 Speaker 2: it's like corporate to spokespeople, they're the worst. You know, 483 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:38,760 Speaker 2: celebrities and anybody who is comfortable around a microphone has 484 00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:42,719 Speaker 2: been trained how to lie and confuse people, how to 485 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:44,560 Speaker 2: mislead people. 486 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:47,280 Speaker 1: And I mean they had. 487 00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:52,800 Speaker 2: They have a map breaking up the number of sightings 488 00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:57,000 Speaker 2: these go back all the way to November thirteenth, before Thanksgiving, 489 00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:00,520 Speaker 2: there was one county Hundredon County in western Jersey, one 490 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:04,560 Speaker 2: hundred and eighty sightings, another one hundred and sixty five 491 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:08,560 Speaker 2: at Somerset County, which is near Trump's big golf course, 492 00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:10,440 Speaker 2: which is why they thought, you know, this could be 493 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:15,280 Speaker 2: a some foreign spy operation. Eighty nine in Monmouth County, 494 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:18,880 Speaker 2: forty three in Morris County. Many counties did not have. 495 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:22,600 Speaker 2: It seemed like it was targeted clusters in certain parts 496 00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:28,680 Speaker 2: of the state and why New Jersey. But they didn't 497 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:33,760 Speaker 2: say specifically what research was being performed, although often the 498 00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:38,400 Speaker 2: sightings were near military bases. They didn't say what the 499 00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:45,600 Speaker 2: what the phrase other reasons might mean. And so this 500 00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:47,840 Speaker 2: is supposed to I guess that's the only answer we're 501 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:52,040 Speaker 2: ever going to get. All right, coming up next hour 502 00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:56,120 Speaker 2: in at two thirty, we're gonna have Vince Fongan, he 503 00:29:56,200 --> 00:30:00,000 Speaker 2: used to be a state senator now Republican congressman, and 504 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:06,280 Speaker 2: and he met with Trump when they visited the wildfire victims, 505 00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:11,960 Speaker 2: and he's going to explain what Trump's relief plan is 506 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:14,720 Speaker 2: going to look like for the residents here in southern 507 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:19,040 Speaker 2: California who suffered from the fires. That's coming up, along 508 00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:21,600 Speaker 2: with many other things. Debora Mark is live in the 509 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:24,520 Speaker 2: KFI twenty four hour News Center. Hey, you've been listening 510 00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:27,120 Speaker 2: to the John Covelt Show podcast. 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