1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:04,800 Speaker 1: Wait that ass up in the morning Breakfast Club. Yeah, 2 00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:06,680 Speaker 1: it's the world most dangerous morning show to Breakfast Club. 3 00:00:06,760 --> 00:00:09,800 Speaker 1: Charlomagne and God Angelie Ye dj Envy had to step out, 4 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:11,639 Speaker 1: but we have a special guest in the building. She's 5 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 1: got a new book out called Black Women Will Save 6 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:17,640 Speaker 1: the World. Miss April Ryan, Good morning, Good morning, Charlomagne. 7 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 1: How are you? I ain't blessed Black and Holly Favorite. 8 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:22,920 Speaker 1: How are you feeling? I'm blessed Black and Holly Favorite? 9 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:26,160 Speaker 1: This way there you go, Yes, let me see you. 10 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 1: Black Women will Save the World. But the title is 11 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:33,640 Speaker 1: self explanatory, yes and no, but you didn't add the 12 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:36,959 Speaker 1: last part an anthem. We're gonna sing it over and over, okay, 13 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:40,920 Speaker 1: anthem black women will save the World, and an anthem okay, yeah, 14 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 1: to keep it going. Because what happens is people forget moments, 15 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 1: and when we forget a moment, we lose out. And 16 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, black women are rising 17 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 1: in number as head of household, rising in number as 18 00:00:57,600 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 1: the breadwinner in a household. And with that said, we 19 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 1: are taking care of everyone everything and not taking care 20 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 1: of ourselves and not being heralded as a champion as 21 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 1: a shero and we are that. I know, those stats 22 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 1: got to be flawed though. And the reason I say 23 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:18,200 Speaker 1: those stats are flawed because they've always been the head 24 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 1: of household. They've always been a friend who is it's 25 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 1: rising in number, it's rising in number, and you know 26 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:28,319 Speaker 1: you got when when you have And that's saying a 27 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 1: lot about the structure of the black family. Now you've 28 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:35,120 Speaker 1: got a mother who's the head of household, and then 29 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 1: what do you do is she's by herself and she's 30 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 1: got kids. Sometimes we bring the kids along to help 31 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:44,399 Speaker 1: us fill in the gaps. And that goes into an 32 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 1: issue that I talk about in the book for Black Girls, adultification, 33 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 1: you know, and you know, we make a lot of 34 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 1: our children become more mature than they need to be. 35 00:01:56,240 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 1: They lose out and and it's so interesting. A friend 36 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 1: of mine who's in the book for Drinka Newton, the 37 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 1: widow of Hughey P. Newton, head of Black Panther Party, 38 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 1: she said, you know, some kids are given fairy tales, 39 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 1: others and nightmares. And I think all children should have 40 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 1: fairy tales. And these are numbers that prove it. Because 41 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:15,800 Speaker 1: I believe in the book it's black girls are eleven 42 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:19,360 Speaker 1: times more likely to be suspended yes than white girls 43 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:23,639 Speaker 1: in school, and nine times more likely to be arrested yes. 44 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:27,680 Speaker 1: One dad is the adultification adult young girls adultification that 45 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:30,679 Speaker 1: way in so many other ways. And it's just at 46 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 1: this point we have to nurture not only ourselves but 47 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 1: in the community. But we have to figure out how 48 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:42,359 Speaker 1: to help navigate what this world is giving to our 49 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 1: young black girls who are future We're going to be 50 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:48,360 Speaker 1: the next heroes, next generational shiroes. I think. I mean, 51 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 1: if men are being honest with themselves, you got to 52 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:53,800 Speaker 1: say that the women have been the CEOs of all 53 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 1: lives forever from the grandmother. You have to say that 54 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 1: are our covering And I still say that, you know, 55 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:05,800 Speaker 1: but we are strong in the home. We a lot 56 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:08,520 Speaker 1: of times to the decision makers, we are for the 57 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:11,919 Speaker 1: most part, having your back, you know, not just some 58 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:15,359 Speaker 1: of us. You know, take care of the dinner, some 59 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 1: of us take care of the wash, but we got 60 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:18,920 Speaker 1: your back in so many other ways. We have a 61 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 1: hard time at work, but who's there are a lot 62 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 1: of times for us as we are taking care of 63 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 1: the home, taking care of you, taking care of the 64 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 1: boss at work, then going to church and figuring out 65 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:31,959 Speaker 1: you know, being the usher or you know, the choir 66 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 1: member or the deacon ass and then going to the pta. 67 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 1: I mean, it's so many, so many things we have 68 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 1: to juggle, and yet we don't get our flowers. Yeah, 69 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 1: and I think a lot of times we're also taught 70 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 1: to kind of you know, endure like you said, a 71 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:49,839 Speaker 1: lot of things. Yeah, especially in the workplace. Oh yes, 72 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 1: And and I love you. I love your move I 73 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 1: love your entrepreneurship. I love your business mind. You are 74 00:03:57,520 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 1: not staying in a place that okay, I'm stay here. 75 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 1: You're moving higher. You're looking for higher. And unfortunately a 76 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 1: lot of black women don't have that that sisterhood to 77 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 1: say let's push it further because they don't see people 78 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 1: who look like you and I in the workspace. A 79 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 1: lot of us are alone and cannot talk to other women. 80 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 1: And I believe in community and sisterhood, so we can 81 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 1: bring forward that move be another angela. Come on now, now, 82 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 1: let's talk about you and your space that you occupied. 83 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:27,600 Speaker 1: When we talk about being the only black woman's that 84 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 1: so people have some history on who April Ryan is. Um, 85 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:34,920 Speaker 1: I'm the only black woman. I'm the longest serving black 86 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 1: female journalist in the White House. White House, Yeah, white 87 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:43,719 Speaker 1: House correspondent. And it's you know, it's especially when you're 88 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 1: focusing on black issues. It's a hard road and people 89 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 1: want to isolate you. They want to call you the 90 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 1: angry black woman. Do I look at angry shamn? No, 91 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:59,919 Speaker 1: thank you. I'm happy. If you are angry, you have 92 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:02,040 Speaker 1: every right to be. But no, I'm not going to 93 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:04,920 Speaker 1: fall into that angry black woman's stereotype because people want 94 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 1: to say when you bring up issues of a community 95 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:10,719 Speaker 1: that's underserved with the highest numbers of negatives, and every 96 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:13,600 Speaker 1: cat should be but they want to label you was 97 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:15,719 Speaker 1: that instead of saying, no, no, no, let's take a 98 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:17,919 Speaker 1: look at the steps, they want to divert attention from 99 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:21,359 Speaker 1: the real issue and blame me when I have nothing 100 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:24,040 Speaker 1: to do with that. I'm trying to ask questions to 101 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 1: get answers for a community that is hurting, and I 102 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 1: just happened to be along the way, a black woman 103 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 1: asking those questions. You've had those moments, some adversities you 104 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 1: faced as the White House correspondent. Some adversities yeah, um, 105 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:43,360 Speaker 1: you saw it. Yeah, being told you, you you know, sit down, Trump, 106 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:47,599 Speaker 1: Trump told me sit down. Sean Spice says, stop shaking 107 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 1: your head. Yeah, he wouldn't take your question because you 108 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:51,599 Speaker 1: was shaking your head. He say, yeah, that was crazy. 109 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 1: Sarah Huckaby Sanders, who's running for governor of Arkansas, told 110 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 1: me my question was stupid and you know, been targeted 111 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 1: by Fox News death threats just for asking questions of 112 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:06,279 Speaker 1: the Black community, a community that they didn't want to 113 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 1: deal with. So and you know this, You know, the 114 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 1: black community has issues period, and then at the White House. 115 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:17,240 Speaker 1: Everything comes to the White House from water, peace and 116 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 1: everything in between. And in between all of that is 117 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 1: the black community who still is trying to figure out 118 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 1: why is my water not safe to drink? Not just 119 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:30,480 Speaker 1: in Jackson, but in Flint still, you know, policing issues, 120 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 1: you know, Ahmad Aubrey, George Floyd, you know we and 121 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 1: then what about our economy? You know, we're we When 122 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 1: the gas prices were slashed a couple of months ago 123 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:47,799 Speaker 1: and the President opened up the Strategic or Reserve allowing 124 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 1: for millions of barrels to be released today, guess what, 125 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:57,040 Speaker 1: Black folks didn't see that price loring because we were 126 00:06:57,040 --> 00:06:59,839 Speaker 1: having price gouging in our community. You know, you could 127 00:06:59,839 --> 00:07:01,920 Speaker 1: go across the street and see a five dollars and 128 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 1: something gallant of gas and across the street it would 129 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 1: be four dollars, when in other parts of America was 130 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 1: three dollars and some you know, gon gas buddy, And 131 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 1: that's how you're really How about that that app I 132 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 1: love that or cheap gas or whatever. Yeah, let me 133 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 1: tell you, Yeah, I get it. What are you thinking 134 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 1: about the treatment of VP Kamala Harris? Then, in relation 135 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 1: to this book Black Women Will Save the World an anthem? 136 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 1: What do I think about the treatment in the media 137 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 1: and just by people in general speaking about her? Well, 138 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 1: number one, being a black woman, people are hypersensitive about that, 139 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 1: and some of the things that were coming out about 140 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 1: her or about her staff or just unheard. It was 141 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 1: just a lot of gossip and chatter and it was 142 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 1: ugly because she was a black woman. Okay, And as 143 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 1: a journalist I said, okay, this is interesting, But as 144 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:57,560 Speaker 1: a black woman, I saw it for what it was. 145 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 1: I looked at it on two from two lenses. And 146 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 1: no matter what you think of her, she is the 147 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 1: first black woman to be in that position. She moved 148 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 1: and I talked about this in the book. She moved 149 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 1: Joe Biden forward. She pushed him to move forward on 150 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 1: matters of phrase, because actually did when she Okay, you 151 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 1: don't remember that debate, you don't remember remember that, But 152 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 1: it was like after she did that, when she called 153 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 1: him out on the bus, and it was like after that, 154 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 1: it was like almost like she got a phone called 155 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:30,680 Speaker 1: it like shot and she kind of did a lot 156 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 1: since well let me but let me say this, and 157 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 1: I talk about this in the book. It was a 158 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 1: lot of It was a tense time. It was a 159 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 1: huge moment that I witnessed at the NAACP presidential Forum 160 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 1: debate when all the candidates were there except for Donald 161 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:53,559 Speaker 1: Trump anyway, moving on um and she wouldn't get out 162 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 1: of her her van, her her knobby wheeled vehicle to 163 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 1: come and talk with all of the other candidates. She 164 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:03,719 Speaker 1: didn't come out and meet with Joe Biden. There was 165 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:06,679 Speaker 1: a tension there and Joe Biden was caught on a 166 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:09,840 Speaker 1: hot mic on stage with me saying you know my heart, 167 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:12,319 Speaker 1: you know my heart. He was hurting by it, and 168 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 1: then backstage it was like you know my heart, you 169 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 1: know my heart. Kamala Harris was not seeing backstage, Wow, 170 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 1: she was It was it was so tense. There was 171 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 1: a come to Jesus moment. Somewhere, there was a road 172 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:27,200 Speaker 1: Damascus moment or something for Joe Biden because I never 173 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 1: thought the way he felt that pain, that those two 174 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 1: would come together for this moment. So something happened. There 175 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 1: was a coming together. But what happened was George Floyd right, 176 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 1: this was a transformational moment. And then you had Amy 177 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:45,320 Speaker 1: Klobshar saying you need to have a black woman as 178 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 1: your running mate, and he had a list to include 179 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:55,079 Speaker 1: Stacy Abrams, Susan Rice, Karen Bass, so many other sisters. 180 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:57,720 Speaker 1: The credit to that did that for the USA today, 181 00:09:57,760 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 1: that Angela Ry and Sonny and all, yeah, let's give them, Yeah, yeah, yeah, 182 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 1: most definitely. And that pressure. It took pressure from all 183 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:10,079 Speaker 1: sides to make that happen. And you know, Sonny and Answer, 184 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 1: they took a hit for that. They took a hit 185 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:15,520 Speaker 1: and Enjoy Read and Tiffany Cross, they took a hit 186 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 1: for that from the party, from the Democratic Party. We're 187 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 1: standing up, pushing for what was right, what was right. 188 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:27,679 Speaker 1: When you stand up and speak the obvious, you get ridiculed, 189 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 1: you get pushed back. It's it's terrible. So anyway, So 190 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 1: there was a push, everyone was saying it, and George 191 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:39,640 Speaker 1: Floyd was more transformational than what we know that whole situation. 192 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 1: So now after all of that, we have the first 193 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 1: black woman vice president or a woman of color who 194 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:51,720 Speaker 1: identifies as black. We have Katangi Brown Jackson. That makes 195 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:54,959 Speaker 1: us all proud, um. And this is this is as 196 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:57,319 Speaker 1: a black woman, not as a journalist, but as a journalist. 197 00:10:57,320 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 1: I'm still marking the moment, you know. And then you know, 198 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 1: you have Susan Rice. You have the real Fudge, Marsha Fudge. 199 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:07,680 Speaker 1: She will knock down anything to make sure our housing 200 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 1: is straight. Secretary of Housing and Urban Development, you have 201 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 1: so many Chalanda Young, Office of Budget and Management. You 202 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 1: have black women in Karine Jean Pierre, black women in 203 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:24,439 Speaker 1: spaces and places that we've never occupied. And that's just governmental. 204 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:28,600 Speaker 1: Let's talk about CEOs. Let's talk about the moves upward. 205 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 1: And this is a moment no one has said anything about. 206 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 1: And I said, you know, I got a market because 207 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:37,040 Speaker 1: if you don't market and say, wait a minute, this 208 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:40,320 Speaker 1: is a moment of history, we lose the advances Black 209 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 1: women have taken a lot from a lot of different people, 210 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:45,200 Speaker 1: a lot of different groups and now it's time to 211 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 1: say we're here and we're not rolling it back. And 212 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 1: I love the idea of sisterhood because I do feel 213 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 1: like that's so important in essential. Yeah, because you know, 214 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:59,359 Speaker 1: when you reach certain levels, you're alone, and that's unfortunate. 215 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 1: And a lot of times, you know, we have that 216 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:04,840 Speaker 1: test and we don't have anyone to breathe life to 217 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 1: us with the testimony to help us move forward. So 218 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 1: Chicago Mayor Laurie Lightfoot told me that she talks to 219 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:18,480 Speaker 1: the mayors and all the black women may yes yes, um. 220 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 1: The mayor of dcote yes yes. Mariel Bowser for DC. 221 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 1: When Kesha Lance Bottoms was the mayor of Atlanta, when 222 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:34,720 Speaker 1: there was a problem going on, she would say, you know, 223 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 1: let's get together. They would have these calls. She didn't 224 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 1: go into it because she couldn't tell me too much, 225 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 1: but she told me enough that they say, Okay, I 226 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 1: got this. Another person say, oh, I've been through that, 227 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:46,840 Speaker 1: and but this is how you're going to get out 228 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:49,200 Speaker 1: of it. You know. They were a support mechanism for 229 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:52,360 Speaker 1: each other. The black DA's right now, who are facing 230 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 1: a lot of problems about voting, and especially ones in Georgia. 231 00:12:56,440 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 1: George's like ground zero right now. They all come together 232 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 1: and talk amongst each other, to support one another. There 233 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 1: is a strength and sisterhood in these rarefied spaces that 234 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 1: we read. Did you do you feel like that speaking 235 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 1: of dad, do you feel like they rallied around Marilyn 236 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:14,200 Speaker 1: movie the way the issue that I don't think. So 237 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 1: let me say this. I'm a child of Baltimore City. 238 00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 1: I'm a child of Baltimore City. And you know, a 239 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:24,240 Speaker 1: lot of people got a glimpse of Baltimore. But Freddy 240 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 1: Gray died in police custody. The word failure is built 241 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:33,439 Speaker 1: into the very existence and people in Baltimore, people of Baltimore. 242 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 1: Marilyn Mosby went out and tried to get accountability for 243 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 1: the death of a black man who didn't have chances, 244 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:48,600 Speaker 1: who had lead paint poisoning, you know, didn't have chances. 245 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 1: His mother had issues in life, real hard issues in life. 246 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 1: She tried to get accountability for people who for someone 247 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:01,560 Speaker 1: who was discounted someone the people were just discounted and 248 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 1: she never got that. She tried to hold the officers 249 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:10,280 Speaker 1: accountable and after that she was vilified again, a black 250 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:16,520 Speaker 1: woman standing out seeing the obvious. She was discounted from 251 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 1: that very beginning, and she did the unthinkable, unthinkable, the 252 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:27,120 Speaker 1: unimaginable to push a system to find account for the 253 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:30,680 Speaker 1: death of one black man and police custody. And she 254 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 1: was vialified and they went after Yeah, put charges on 255 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 1: her and everything. Yeah. I didn't know you from Baltimore. 256 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 1: I will never hear you say you. Oh my god, 257 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 1: don't you look I'm not okay. Let let me, let me, 258 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 1: let me, let me say, let me say this. Don't 259 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 1: you talk about my city. That's one thing you won't 260 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:53,400 Speaker 1: do you No, no, no, it's car hockey book and 261 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:57,560 Speaker 1: let's zinc. I don't know. Do you know? You know what? 262 00:14:57,680 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 1: You are so wrong? I don't talk about South Carolina. Okay, 263 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 1: let's you know, you know you and your tobacco and 264 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:08,040 Speaker 1: your hush puppies and your bull peanuts. Yeah, yeah, I 265 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 1: do too. Oh my god, on the side of the 266 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 1: row with the bag man Chalmagne, don't do it. I'm 267 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 1: going to be I'll be that Friday. Actually bring a bag, 268 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 1: you say. All over the country, remarkable black women are 269 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:22,200 Speaker 1: discovering ways to heal our community and write new narratives 270 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:24,760 Speaker 1: about what's possible for black women to What did it 271 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 1: like the healing process look like for you? For me, 272 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:30,400 Speaker 1: the healing process looks like a standing appointment every Tuesday 273 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:33,480 Speaker 1: morning at eight fifteen with my counselor after after you 274 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 1: have mental health, after you have a president of the 275 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 1: United States and all his minions, including I'm a rosa, 276 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:43,120 Speaker 1: which I'm not even gonna talk about anymore. Go after 277 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 1: you and try to diminish you, take your career away 278 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 1: from you, from you. You know it's black people. It's 279 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 1: taking a long time and a hard road fuss to 280 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:54,960 Speaker 1: get to where. We have to go through a lot 281 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:57,480 Speaker 1: of turns and nooks and crannis to get where we are. 282 00:15:57,560 --> 00:16:01,480 Speaker 1: And you're gonna try to take me down. No, make 283 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 1: me think something's wrong with me. No. Um, the back 284 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 1: of the book, you see me this joy and that's 285 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:10,120 Speaker 1: my real hair. I lost a lot of my hair 286 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 1: from stress. That's I remember you said they sent the 287 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:16,240 Speaker 1: envelopes um to your house. Yeah a Caesar, say I 288 00:16:16,280 --> 00:16:20,040 Speaker 1: got a Caesar, Say I bomb? How about that? You 289 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 1: remember those bombs sending out bombs to the Clintons, And 290 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 1: I got them before everybody else did. To our home, 291 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 1: to my home where my children live outside of Baltimore. Wow, Baltimore. 292 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 1: The amount of stressed that and then to do your 293 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 1: job because I have to work. I don't have a 294 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:41,280 Speaker 1: silver spoon. I have to work. And to go into 295 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:44,520 Speaker 1: a place that there's confrontation, you know that's going to 296 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 1: happen every day. What what sweeth hell was I going 297 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 1: to walk into next? How are they going to try 298 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:51,720 Speaker 1: to try and embarrass me in front of the world 299 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 1: on television? Diminish me. It's like every day is a fight. 300 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 1: You got every day is a fight, I mean a 301 00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 1: real fight. And then when I would leave the White 302 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 1: House Charlomagne, there were people outside waiting for me. People 303 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 1: were waiting for me, and I wonder how. I don't 304 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:09,159 Speaker 1: know how. It was nothing but God. But let me 305 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:11,439 Speaker 1: tell you something. They wanted the Baltimore to rise up 306 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:15,159 Speaker 1: in me. I wouldn't let it. The best way that 307 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:17,480 Speaker 1: I can continue to do is just to keep focused 308 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:22,119 Speaker 1: and keep moving. I have never seen anything like it 309 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:25,080 Speaker 1: in my life. I can't believe I'm still here, to 310 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:27,800 Speaker 1: be real honest with you, they played dirty and hard 311 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:31,439 Speaker 1: first with a petty at the time of petty President. 312 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:35,280 Speaker 1: I'm sure that wasn't all he was. He was more 313 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:39,240 Speaker 1: than petty. He was dangerous, he was deadly his words. 314 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 1: Look at what he said about miss McConnell. Just reason nobody, 315 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 1: I mean nobody cared. You know, I kept screaming it. 316 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 1: You know, they talked about they went after Maxine Waters 317 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:53,239 Speaker 1: for Fredrinca will Congresswoman Fredericka Wilson. They wouldn't after so 318 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:56,119 Speaker 1: many people. But here I stand. And that's one of 319 00:17:56,119 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 1: the reasons why I wrote this book. Because they were 320 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 1: vilifying black women, talking so ugly and dirty about black 321 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:06,800 Speaker 1: women who are out here fighting for us every day. 322 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:09,560 Speaker 1: And I said, they're not going to write the narrative 323 00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:13,040 Speaker 1: about us. We're not angry, we are She rose with 324 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:15,880 Speaker 1: the Invisible Cave. Do you think it's like an unfair, 325 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:20,160 Speaker 1: unfair pressure put on black women in those spaces too, 326 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:22,399 Speaker 1: like a like a vice president Kamala Harris, like people 327 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:26,080 Speaker 1: don't look the other vice presidents to save, you know, 328 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:29,080 Speaker 1: people heavy. I've asked I've asked her that personally, like 329 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:30,680 Speaker 1: you know, are you going to be the superhero? Every 330 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:32,320 Speaker 1: time you ask the stuff you get her in trouble. 331 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 1: And also with Katanji Brown Jackson, it's like they're making 332 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:40,720 Speaker 1: her the face of the Supreme Court. But even that's 333 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:44,160 Speaker 1: a little unfair because we know it's sixtreme conservative majority. 334 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:45,960 Speaker 1: There's really not much you can do six three. But 335 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:48,199 Speaker 1: but it's not much she can do right now. But 336 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:51,760 Speaker 1: let me tell you what she can do. Her opinions 337 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:55,840 Speaker 1: and her decisions and her discussions that she's offering now 338 00:18:56,280 --> 00:19:00,200 Speaker 1: on issues that are on the court. They move move 339 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:04,439 Speaker 1: to the next level when the future comes about with 340 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:07,480 Speaker 1: that same issue, you know, and they'll look at what 341 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:12,040 Speaker 1: she said to help figure out a law, figure out 342 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:16,600 Speaker 1: how this issue should stand or not stand. With Kamala Harris, 343 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 1: she is the first black vice president, black woman vice president, 344 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:25,720 Speaker 1: and she's got a portfolio that matches being a black woman. 345 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:29,040 Speaker 1: But she also has a portfolio it's one of the 346 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:33,960 Speaker 1: heaviest ever from immigration to abortion, to voting rights, etc. 347 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:37,600 Speaker 1: And people are watching, especially in this moment, as they 348 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:42,160 Speaker 1: listen to you guys, you know, and watch the little devices, 349 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:45,480 Speaker 1: these thousand dollars devices in their hands. People are watching 350 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:50,320 Speaker 1: the promises made from the campaigns. People are watching the 351 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 1: moments when these hidden variables pop up and how they 352 00:19:55,680 --> 00:20:00,159 Speaker 1: handle them. And people are so desperate right now for 353 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:04,840 Speaker 1: change because the promise was equity and inclusion. People are 354 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:07,679 Speaker 1: looking for that. People are so desperate. That's we are 355 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:11,240 Speaker 1: in a time that we've never seen before and prayerfully 356 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 1: we'll never see again. But people are so desperate for 357 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 1: change and they hope for a better day. I think she, 358 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 1: you know, in a lot of ways when you talk 359 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:23,160 Speaker 1: about those variable moments that you can get invariable. When 360 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:26,200 Speaker 1: she got asked about racism, is this a racist country? 361 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:28,920 Speaker 1: And because she couldn't say yes, you know what, let 362 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:30,919 Speaker 1: me let me say that and I will say this 363 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:35,320 Speaker 1: about that. Um, the FBI. I wish, you know, somebody 364 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:37,840 Speaker 1: would have given them the FBI stats that they could 365 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:40,760 Speaker 1: have quoted, you know, because they're saying, you know, white 366 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:45,960 Speaker 1: supremacist activity is a threat to this nation. Yeah. So, 367 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:49,440 Speaker 1: and then when Tim Scott got up there, uh saying 368 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:54,960 Speaker 1: what he said, you'reself killing him? Um, who might eat? 369 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:57,960 Speaker 1: He might not like boil peanuts because he's definitely not 370 00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:02,320 Speaker 1: like you like you think you. Okay, he might like 371 00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:06,360 Speaker 1: the Cajun but he liked it, I like the regulars 372 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:10,200 Speaker 1: with Sulter. Does he like a hush puppy? I think 373 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:12,760 Speaker 1: he might like hush puppies. I don't know. He's real different, 374 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 1: he's extra so anyway, No, but when he got up 375 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:18,040 Speaker 1: there saying there's not racism in America, I was like, 376 00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:20,879 Speaker 1: I don't know what America you're talking about. Especially is 377 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:24,199 Speaker 1: in one breath you say I've been racially profiled and 378 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:26,280 Speaker 1: then in the next breath there's no. I'm like what? 379 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:29,760 Speaker 1: And you knew instinctively at that moment. I knew before 380 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:33,320 Speaker 1: that that that that policing the George for Justice in 381 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:36,880 Speaker 1: Policing Act would not go through. But when he said that, 382 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:40,240 Speaker 1: I knew it had no chance because he already skewed 383 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:45,080 Speaker 1: the conversation. But I just wish someone would have given 384 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:49,159 Speaker 1: the President and the Vice president and understanding that the 385 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 1: FBI came out with that report because they missed the 386 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:54,959 Speaker 1: mark on that one. Well even without the report. To 387 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:57,040 Speaker 1: your point, you're a black woman, like that should be 388 00:21:57,040 --> 00:21:59,159 Speaker 1: a no brainer one and asked about you know, as 389 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:00,960 Speaker 1: a black person, should no brain one asks this a 390 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:04,639 Speaker 1: racist country? First? That's what I think you talk about 391 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:07,679 Speaker 1: Obama and his ratings dropping the most from a single 392 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:11,439 Speaker 1: incident since we're talking about race, and yeah, that that 393 00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:15,320 Speaker 1: beer summit. Yeah, he never got back the white vote. 394 00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:17,600 Speaker 1: He lost a large portion of the white vote when 395 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:23,080 Speaker 1: he talked about skip gates and policing and racial profiling. 396 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:27,240 Speaker 1: That moment was a thread that carried throughout his eight years, 397 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 1: the policing issue, and he never got that white vote back. 398 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:35,440 Speaker 1: He never got it back, no matter how hard he tried. 399 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:39,879 Speaker 1: So you think it's it's more of a I can't 400 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:41,920 Speaker 1: don't want to say certain things because I don't want 401 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:45,720 Speaker 1: my approval, So let's let's be honest. The first term, Um, 402 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:49,439 Speaker 1: Barack Obama had to walk a very thin line. You know, 403 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:53,760 Speaker 1: he was the president who happened to be black. Race 404 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:57,400 Speaker 1: and politics will always follow him. But you remember this, 405 00:22:57,520 --> 00:23:00,480 Speaker 1: the Tea Party was basically created because of his elevation. 406 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:03,439 Speaker 1: You had Donald Trump on his heels talking about, uh, 407 00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:10,440 Speaker 1: he's you know, born in Kenya. Something did time. It 408 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:13,200 Speaker 1: was a huge He spent time that that was the 409 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:16,720 Speaker 1: foundation of his run for president, all on the back 410 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:19,960 Speaker 1: of the illegitimacy of the first black president, the alleged 411 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:23,199 Speaker 1: illegitimacy of the first black president. So at the end 412 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:26,400 Speaker 1: of the day, Um, for any president the first term, 413 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:29,640 Speaker 1: you're gonna walk a certain line, and Barack Obama had 414 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:32,640 Speaker 1: to walk that line even straighter. And taller than any 415 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:37,760 Speaker 1: other president. But that second term, oh you know, it changed. 416 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:40,399 Speaker 1: He was I saw a swag I hadn't seen before. 417 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:44,119 Speaker 1: You know, he couldn't commit political suicide. But during that 418 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:49,199 Speaker 1: first term, when when George excuse me, Trayvon Martin was 419 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:52,240 Speaker 1: killed and he went out there saying something that he 420 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:54,679 Speaker 1: could have been my son White, the White press was like, 421 00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:56,200 Speaker 1: what do you mean? What do you mean? I'm like, 422 00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 1: what the hell are you guys thinking? What do you think? 423 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 1: I mean? I explain the burden to bed? Yeah, I 424 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:04,440 Speaker 1: mean I don't understand. I mean, some things are so 425 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:07,240 Speaker 1: obvious and maybe we all speak a different language. I 426 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:10,359 Speaker 1: don't know. And I'm like, what do you think he meant? 427 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:15,240 Speaker 1: And it's like, oh, you're the president. You shouldn't have 428 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:18,359 Speaker 1: this problem. Let him take his hat off, all of 429 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:21,359 Speaker 1: his esteemed clothes and walk down the street with that pop. 430 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 1: He's just a black man like any of us. I mean, 431 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:26,320 Speaker 1: even as president, they treated him like he was just 432 00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:28,320 Speaker 1: a black man like any other You see people putting 433 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:30,640 Speaker 1: their fingers in his face, you know, yelling at yelling 434 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:34,359 Speaker 1: at him during a uh well that oh that what 435 00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:35,919 Speaker 1: do you call those things? Can't you remember? Right? Now 436 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:39,480 Speaker 1: my mind. Stay of the Unions. No, oh, they didn't 437 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:41,480 Speaker 1: put a their finger in the face. They screamed out, 438 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:43,840 Speaker 1: you lie. Yeah, somebody nobody jumped in his face. And 439 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:45,800 Speaker 1: Stay of the Union. Remember that woman who pointed it 440 00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:47,399 Speaker 1: was pointing at him in his face. Whether they were 441 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:49,520 Speaker 1: walking the runway, Yeah, yeah, that was that. That was 442 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:51,840 Speaker 1: outside on the on the tar map, but no one, 443 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:54,600 Speaker 1: Stay of the Union. That was the most disrespect I've 444 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:58,480 Speaker 1: ever seen president of the United States. You lie, and 445 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:03,639 Speaker 1: it was ugly, and it all boils down for me 446 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:07,200 Speaker 1: to race. Yeah, they may not like what he said. 447 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:10,160 Speaker 1: A lot of You've seen them with decorum sit down 448 00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:12,040 Speaker 1: when they say something, and they won't stand up in 449 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:15,560 Speaker 1: a plot and give scouts. But to scream out in 450 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:20,080 Speaker 1: that chamber to the first black president or to any 451 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:25,600 Speaker 1: president is sacrilege and politics. Did they make your job 452 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:28,400 Speaker 1: harder as a White House correspondent to ask about black 453 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:30,919 Speaker 1: issues when you know, like politicians don't like to talk 454 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:34,080 Speaker 1: about black issues. Let me say this, I've had Republicans 455 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:36,480 Speaker 1: say that I'm a bleeding heart Democrat because I asked 456 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:39,720 Speaker 1: the issues, and I have Democrats saying I'm a Republican 457 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:42,399 Speaker 1: because they feel that I'm wrong for pushing it in 458 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 1: their Yeah, pushing it in their face even though their 459 00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 1: base is black. Look, I'm like, I'm doing my job, 460 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:52,200 Speaker 1: you know, and it shows that I'm not favoring one 461 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:55,600 Speaker 1: party or the other. But it's a hard job. But 462 00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:59,920 Speaker 1: that's not the issue. The issue is the story impact. 463 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:02,479 Speaker 1: I think people will you guys talk to the world 464 00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:05,600 Speaker 1: every day so they can have something to uplift them, 465 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:07,160 Speaker 1: to make them feel a little bit better, and give 466 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:10,040 Speaker 1: them information that they can use. And that's what I do. 467 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:12,800 Speaker 1: Give you information that will help you move on with 468 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:15,200 Speaker 1: your life to understand what's going to break it down, 469 00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:19,080 Speaker 1: break it down these thou arts, wherefore their asses in 470 00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:21,960 Speaker 1: a way that you can really understand. Oh wow, this 471 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:24,400 Speaker 1: is how it happens. This is what impacts me. So 472 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:26,919 Speaker 1: you can take this and beyond with information so you 473 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:29,600 Speaker 1: can move about your life. What do you think about 474 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:32,119 Speaker 1: these upcoming elections, because it nws like a lot of 475 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:36,520 Speaker 1: people are even who word Democrats are moving away from 476 00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:41,520 Speaker 1: the Democratic Party. So let's let's start for the general election. 477 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:45,400 Speaker 1: When you have two hundred and ninety nine Republican candidates 478 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:52,200 Speaker 1: who say that they don't believe that Joe Biden is 479 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:57,440 Speaker 1: the legitimate president. Let's start there, and then you watch 480 00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:04,600 Speaker 1: these crazy debates. Did these slugfest matches with the people 481 00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:06,920 Speaker 1: who are not saying I believe in trumpsm but they 482 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:10,440 Speaker 1: have the ideology versus someone who's trying to stay in 483 00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:14,280 Speaker 1: the old way of politics. It's a crazy matchup. But 484 00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:16,840 Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you. Val Demings gave it to Marco 485 00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:19,600 Speaker 1: left him stunned. The other night. I was like, whoa, 486 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:22,720 Speaker 1: she said, what does she say? I'm disappointed to you. 487 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:25,040 Speaker 1: You used to not lie? He was like, he was 488 00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:27,680 Speaker 1: like in shock. I said, come on, I said, what 489 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:30,159 Speaker 1: I mean? It's almost entertaining where you want to sit 490 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:32,919 Speaker 1: and watch a nice uh you want to watch it 491 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 1: with a nice box or some kettle popcorn or something. 492 00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:39,560 Speaker 1: You know. It's like wow, oh yeah, but you know. 493 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:42,879 Speaker 1: But and the reason why in Georgia, and Georgie's ground 494 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:45,520 Speaker 1: zero for all of this. I mean, it's so many 495 00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:49,720 Speaker 1: elections there that are heated. And that's not even including 496 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:53,879 Speaker 1: the abortion issue with herschel Walker and his chat and 497 00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:56,560 Speaker 1: his in his in his his uh what is it 498 00:27:56,600 --> 00:28:05,880 Speaker 1: his star shaff starn Brary that has no active duty 499 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:08,560 Speaker 1: requirement to it at all, I have an honorary degree 500 00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 1: from South Carolina State University. Doctor. Okay, I'm anna doctor 501 00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:14,760 Speaker 1: to you. I'm anna SeeMe doctor from Morgan State, from 502 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:22,359 Speaker 1: Gaucher and from Classland. Yes, yes, yeah, yeah, okay, honorate 503 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:25,360 Speaker 1: hello doctor? How you doctor? I can see him being 504 00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:28,040 Speaker 1: proud of his badge. I mean, but you're not supposed 505 00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:31,640 Speaker 1: to use it. Okay, so you're not supposed You're not right, 506 00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:33,960 Speaker 1: you're not supposed to use so so so if I 507 00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:36,359 Speaker 1: come up here, holod doctor Charlemagne, the god you're not 508 00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:38,520 Speaker 1: supposed to do. You're not supposed to use it? Are 509 00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:41,440 Speaker 1: you using it? Oh? My god? You're not supposed to 510 00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:44,200 Speaker 1: you You're not supposed to use it. I got three 511 00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:46,240 Speaker 1: and I'm walking around here like, hey, I'm just April 512 00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:50,480 Speaker 1: you doctor? Yea, all right, doctor? Anyway, this is crazy, 513 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:55,880 Speaker 1: but no um for Stacy Abrams. Getting back to Stacey Abrams. 514 00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:57,920 Speaker 1: The reason why the heat is on her and so 515 00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:01,719 Speaker 1: many people are watching. She's a winner. Remember that she 516 00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:04,719 Speaker 1: didn't win the gubernatorial election the last time, and she 517 00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:07,080 Speaker 1: may not win it this time, but she's a winner. 518 00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:10,680 Speaker 1: This one black woman set out to change the mindset 519 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:14,560 Speaker 1: and change the demographic and the way the state of 520 00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:17,200 Speaker 1: Georgia looks. You got Atlanta and then you got the 521 00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:21,160 Speaker 1: rest of Georgia, which is totally difficult. She changed that state. 522 00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:25,680 Speaker 1: It wasn't purple. It went from red to blue. And 523 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:29,000 Speaker 1: she did it quietly, and she told them though, she 524 00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:32,800 Speaker 1: is a threat to them, and that's why Kemp is 525 00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:36,280 Speaker 1: making his machine, is working overtime to make sure the 526 00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:40,240 Speaker 1: margin is not close that he will defeat her. So 527 00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:42,920 Speaker 1: Stay says some real stuff. I was done a few 528 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:44,400 Speaker 1: weeks ago with her, and she said that you know, 529 00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:47,680 Speaker 1: it's it's not the lack of enthusiasm people had, it's 530 00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:49,800 Speaker 1: the lack of trust that they have in the overall 531 00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:53,640 Speaker 1: party that may be impacting candidates like her. So while 532 00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:56,200 Speaker 1: you were down there, did you see all those crazy ads? 533 00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:58,440 Speaker 1: Those ads are horrible. I mean, if I was a 534 00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:01,960 Speaker 1: Georgia resident, I would be scared to go to the polls. Yeah, 535 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:03,760 Speaker 1: crazy thing. I saw him on both sides of though, 536 00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:07,680 Speaker 1: like I saw it. I saw it once for Rope huh, 537 00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:10,760 Speaker 1: right exactly, and I was like, wait a minute, it's 538 00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:14,240 Speaker 1: like everyone's tearing down each other. And you know, Stacy 539 00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:16,560 Speaker 1: Abrams is a person you can't trust. They marked her. 540 00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:20,719 Speaker 1: It looks almost like she's a criminal. Is It is ridiculous. 541 00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:23,360 Speaker 1: And I mean, if I was a resident in Georgia, 542 00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:26,240 Speaker 1: I would be confused. I wouldn't want to go because 543 00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:30,280 Speaker 1: those ads are terrible. They're they're tearing down people more 544 00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:34,160 Speaker 1: so than they're talking about the issues. She said Georgia 545 00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:36,719 Speaker 1: was the worst place in the nation or whatever, and 546 00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:39,920 Speaker 1: I'm like, you know, for certain issues, it is, you know, 547 00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:42,520 Speaker 1: for Baltimore. I love my city, but Baltimore is a 548 00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:46,120 Speaker 1: crime capital right now, you know. And I'm scared when 549 00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:50,920 Speaker 1: you tell the truth, you are vilified and then they 550 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:54,760 Speaker 1: make you a She rote later, you know, think about 551 00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:59,480 Speaker 1: the Black Panther Party, seventy percent membership women. They were 552 00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:02,640 Speaker 1: vilified back in the day when they were trying to 553 00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:06,080 Speaker 1: make sure our children were eating breakfasts for free, when 554 00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:12,800 Speaker 1: they were trying to create clinics, free medical clinics. And 555 00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:15,600 Speaker 1: guess what now, what's the government doing feeding our children? 556 00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:21,720 Speaker 1: What's the government doing having clinics? Black women are moving mountains, 557 00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:27,280 Speaker 1: and we're not getting the distinction or the or the 558 00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:30,360 Speaker 1: recognition that we should have. That goes with the erasure 559 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:33,160 Speaker 1: part of the book. Yeah, yeah, where you talk about that, 560 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:36,560 Speaker 1: even with the me too movement to say her name movement, 561 00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:39,640 Speaker 1: and even what you're discussing right now. So I know 562 00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:42,040 Speaker 1: we want everybody to read the book Black Women Will 563 00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:43,960 Speaker 1: Save the World an anthem, But can you talk about 564 00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:49,920 Speaker 1: erasure and how we see that here in the United States? Yeah, okay, 565 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:53,200 Speaker 1: let's talk about because Mikia Corbett doctor, Because Mikia Corbett, 566 00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:58,600 Speaker 1: the black woman who made the Maderna, the Maderna vaccine. 567 00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:03,440 Speaker 1: Do you hear her names about that? How about that? 568 00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:06,560 Speaker 1: That part the erasure? And I was excited when I 569 00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:08,600 Speaker 1: said that exactly. I was like, let me make sure 570 00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:10,680 Speaker 1: I pronounce her name right. And we reported on it 571 00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:12,120 Speaker 1: and everything. She got a lot of flat too, though. 572 00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:13,720 Speaker 1: I remember when they put her on televison, everybody like, 573 00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:15,160 Speaker 1: see they trying to put a black face out there 574 00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:19,000 Speaker 1: just to get off. She made the number one vaccine 575 00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:23,240 Speaker 1: to fight against this COVID vaccine, this deadly COVID virus 576 00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:27,640 Speaker 1: that we're still dealing with. A black woman did that, Okay, 577 00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:35,400 Speaker 1: a black woman turned Georgia blue stronghold Georgia that we 578 00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:42,640 Speaker 1: were watching with amd Aubrey. Okay, when we show up, 579 00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:46,000 Speaker 1: we show up, but they don't give us credit. End 580 00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:47,840 Speaker 1: of story. I mean, there's so many everyone. When I 581 00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:50,400 Speaker 1: run out in the street and I'm talking about this book, 582 00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:53,160 Speaker 1: so many people say, you know, this touched my heart 583 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:56,080 Speaker 1: for that exact reason. When I bring up a comment 584 00:32:56,200 --> 00:33:00,000 Speaker 1: in the office, they don't give me credit. Someone else 585 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:03,480 Speaker 1: takes the credit. This is at the highest level, and 586 00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:05,960 Speaker 1: at the mid level, and at the lowest level, the 587 00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:09,120 Speaker 1: erasure of what we do, what we bring to the table. 588 00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:11,560 Speaker 1: People take credit for what we do or they don't 589 00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:15,640 Speaker 1: even want to acknowledge it. You talk about Black Lives 590 00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:17,440 Speaker 1: Matter in the book quite a bit and the founders, 591 00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:19,840 Speaker 1: and then you see the other drama that's surrounding that 592 00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:23,440 Speaker 1: now and how that movement is being vilified and even 593 00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:26,800 Speaker 1: the women who started Black Lives Matter. So here's the 594 00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:31,760 Speaker 1: deal for Black Lives Matter. Black lives do matter, and 595 00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:34,600 Speaker 1: the reason why it was put in place because black 596 00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:39,880 Speaker 1: people were being killed in the hands of police. It's 597 00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:44,520 Speaker 1: not saying all lives don't matter. It's saying, at this moment, 598 00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:48,760 Speaker 1: we need to recognize a life that happens to be black. 599 00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:55,000 Speaker 1: People forget that black people are important too. People forget 600 00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:58,720 Speaker 1: that that the concept of it. I stand by that 601 00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:01,120 Speaker 1: because when we go out in the street. We are 602 00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:04,120 Speaker 1: black people who are susceptible to that very same thing. 603 00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:08,239 Speaker 1: I matter, I matter, I matter. That's all that is 604 00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:10,840 Speaker 1: and all the other stuff behind it. I'm sorry to 605 00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:13,359 Speaker 1: hear that, but at the end of the day, the 606 00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:19,120 Speaker 1: concept of everyone mattering is important. But when you don't 607 00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:21,640 Speaker 1: take into account of black life, that's a problem. Again, 608 00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:25,040 Speaker 1: going back to Freddy Gray, that life mattered and there's 609 00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:29,440 Speaker 1: no accountability. George Floyd's life mattered. He got street corner 610 00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:31,560 Speaker 1: justice instead of being able to go to a courtroom. 611 00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:35,920 Speaker 1: You know, Ahmad Avre was hunted down like an animal. 612 00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:39,120 Speaker 1: His life mattered. And let's talk about Emmett till how 613 00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:41,879 Speaker 1: about that. That's the movie's playing out in New York 614 00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:45,160 Speaker 1: and LA. Yeah, that's right, and that's it. Yeah, lynching, 615 00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:49,440 Speaker 1: the lynching of black people in this country. Our lives matter. 616 00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:51,640 Speaker 1: And the first thing they try to do is make 617 00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:54,160 Speaker 1: it seem like you are a bad person because you 618 00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:56,399 Speaker 1: bring it up right or no, I'm talking about even 619 00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:58,200 Speaker 1: for when you get killed by the police, when you 620 00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:02,239 Speaker 1: get oh yea, his toenails, his tonets were dirty, he 621 00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:06,520 Speaker 1: smoked weed before, or he's been arrested before, and therefore, 622 00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:09,640 Speaker 1: and I feel like that's the narrative always that, And 623 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:12,839 Speaker 1: I think with the mod Aarbury, they couldn't find anything right. 624 00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:16,600 Speaker 1: And a mod Aarbury was dreaming of a bigger life 625 00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:20,239 Speaker 1: going into this home and a community that had Trump 626 00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:23,719 Speaker 1: signs all around on the corners and houses. Because they 627 00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:26,359 Speaker 1: didn't tell you that before the trial, because they didn't 628 00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:31,680 Speaker 1: want to skew the perception of what was happening. They 629 00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:33,200 Speaker 1: said he was trust passing, and he might have been, 630 00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:36,439 Speaker 1: but how many people walking. He didn't steal a whole 631 00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:38,640 Speaker 1: bunch of people. They had videos. People kept going in 632 00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:41,600 Speaker 1: that home. But they said, this black guy who was 633 00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:45,440 Speaker 1: coming through our neighborhood, they were already upset because he 634 00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:47,040 Speaker 1: was black and he was a guy running through their 635 00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:50,640 Speaker 1: neighborhood and they didn't want him there Trump signs all 636 00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:54,640 Speaker 1: over the place. They hunted him down on the back 637 00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:57,840 Speaker 1: of a truck with a shotgun that shot him through 638 00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:00,840 Speaker 1: his body, That went through his body like an animal. 639 00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:05,640 Speaker 1: There's no justification for that, none. And that's when people 640 00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:09,560 Speaker 1: cry black lives matter, because it didn't matter at that time. 641 00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:14,440 Speaker 1: I'm a black woman who's been pulled over by the 642 00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:17,600 Speaker 1: police too, I've been profiled. You know it's not just 643 00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:21,520 Speaker 1: our men. Can you say her name, Brianna Taylor? Can 644 00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:26,000 Speaker 1: you say her name, Sandra Bland. Yes, black lives do 645 00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:30,080 Speaker 1: matter when people feel that, you know, it goes down 646 00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:32,959 Speaker 1: to our toenails. Been dirty again with the mont Aubrey 647 00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:36,920 Speaker 1: at the end of that trial. So I'm like, it's 648 00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:40,200 Speaker 1: a lot Kanye and their drink champs and the George 649 00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:43,239 Speaker 1: Floyd situation and now the family has a law suit. 650 00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:46,000 Speaker 1: I want to know immediately what you do when you 651 00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:52,520 Speaker 1: saw that clip? You know, I try not to what 652 00:36:52,880 --> 00:37:00,880 Speaker 1: you know what? No? What did I think we have 653 00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:02,960 Speaker 1: to really as a journalist. Now let me let me 654 00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:05,839 Speaker 1: put on my journalists hat. We have to really see 655 00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:09,680 Speaker 1: what's there and stop giving attention to someone who's in distress. 656 00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:20,480 Speaker 1: That's it as a journalist. You know. Uh, there's all 657 00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:23,840 Speaker 1: these conversations about freedom of speech. I don't think people 658 00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:26,920 Speaker 1: really truly understand the First Amendment because like you can, 659 00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:29,879 Speaker 1: you can, you're free to say whatever. They are consequences 660 00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:34,840 Speaker 1: behind him for defamation and libel. If you say something 661 00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:38,439 Speaker 1: that someone doesn't like, it could be consequences. Family story 662 00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:41,920 Speaker 1: in Kanye Alex Jones, well, no, his his the baby's 663 00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:45,480 Speaker 1: mother for two hundred and fifty million dollars um. That 664 00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:48,400 Speaker 1: child is, That child has lost her father. That child 665 00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:51,680 Speaker 1: is dealing with a lot. You know. Yeah, people are 666 00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:54,799 Speaker 1: supporting her, but she doesn't have her daddy, and she 667 00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:59,000 Speaker 1: will always remember, she will always see that horrific image 668 00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:03,280 Speaker 1: of her father. I don't know if people are looking 669 00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:08,920 Speaker 1: for attention, but we have a responsibility. It's not okay, 670 00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:12,880 Speaker 1: we have a responsibility as journalist. Um Tucker Carlson shouldn't 671 00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:14,719 Speaker 1: have done what he did, having him on that show, 672 00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:17,799 Speaker 1: and he was sitting there smug and watching and he 673 00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:19,920 Speaker 1: loved it because he was like, oh, this is ratings. 674 00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:21,920 Speaker 1: That's all he was thinking in his mind because Kanye 675 00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:24,919 Speaker 1: was giving him everything he wanted. He knew Kanye wasn't well. 676 00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:29,400 Speaker 1: I saw Chris Cuomo bring up the issue. You know, 677 00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:36,520 Speaker 1: I take my antidepression medicine. I don't know what you 678 00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:39,600 Speaker 1: can do for Kanye, but what I know is I'd 679 00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:43,760 Speaker 1: rather not talk about him, and I'd rather not amplify 680 00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:46,840 Speaker 1: the ignorance of his message. I agree. What do you 681 00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:54,200 Speaker 1: think about Alex Jones then? And that's um. He needs 682 00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:57,520 Speaker 1: You know, people, the only way you you impact people 683 00:38:57,640 --> 00:39:00,799 Speaker 1: is by hitting their pocket. But right, so enough said 684 00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:02,719 Speaker 1: with that one tail, How should we look at the 685 00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:06,760 Speaker 1: role of journalism and how it impacts politics, especially right now? Mm, 686 00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:08,799 Speaker 1: because I don't feel like there's a lot of journalism 687 00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:11,239 Speaker 1: out there. Ye are you reading the Greel? Are you 688 00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:15,319 Speaker 1: reading my piece? Do you read my stuff? Doctor Charlemagne? No, 689 00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:18,920 Speaker 1: we got a news letter. You know what. See he's 690 00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:21,839 Speaker 1: so high and lofty. Go to the greel dot com 691 00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:27,279 Speaker 1: and look at the politics section that April Ryan dropped down. Yeah, 692 00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:30,600 Speaker 1: a lot of people have platforms now who aren't necessarily journalists. Yes, 693 00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:32,960 Speaker 1: And that's the unfortunate piece because we have a lot 694 00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:36,719 Speaker 1: of citizen journalists out here who give a lot of 695 00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:40,600 Speaker 1: opinion without facts. And that's part of the problem where 696 00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:44,600 Speaker 1: we are so uninformed and we're not believing what we're 697 00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:48,400 Speaker 1: seeing because so many people are talking things that are 698 00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:53,480 Speaker 1: just not true, giving us information that's skewed. The onus 699 00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:57,120 Speaker 1: is now on the reader, the listener, um or the 700 00:39:57,160 --> 00:40:02,400 Speaker 1: watcher to figure out what his opinion versus fact. The 701 00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:04,359 Speaker 1: line is blurred. And then because you've got a lot 702 00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:06,680 Speaker 1: of people out here who are just pushing things out 703 00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:09,239 Speaker 1: for to make themselves, to make a name, to be 704 00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:13,840 Speaker 1: on the breakfast club or to just push a narrative 705 00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:17,520 Speaker 1: that's not true, and it's a sad time. I mean, 706 00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:21,560 Speaker 1: the greatness of social media, the greatness of technology is everything, 707 00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:25,920 Speaker 1: but when you have people abusing it because it's so open, 708 00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:30,040 Speaker 1: we have anyone jumping on it's true. Do you agree 709 00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:33,320 Speaker 1: with seeing and moving away from opinion based commentary to 710 00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:36,280 Speaker 1: more what they say, what they want, fact based news. 711 00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:40,320 Speaker 1: I think, um, I think it's a good idea because 712 00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:44,480 Speaker 1: we are so as you guys just pointed out, we 713 00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:52,000 Speaker 1: are so confused about what's what, and I think a 714 00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:55,680 Speaker 1: lot of news organizations I think there's a moment for opinion. 715 00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:58,280 Speaker 1: I do. I do believe there's a moment for opinion, 716 00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:00,200 Speaker 1: but I also believe there's a moment for fact. But 717 00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:03,879 Speaker 1: we have to differentiate between the two. And there's gonna 718 00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:05,560 Speaker 1: be a lot of people getting in trouble because I'm 719 00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:07,520 Speaker 1: telling you, Miss Ryan, they do not know the difference. 720 00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:11,040 Speaker 1: I was literally having a discussion yesterday with somebody about 721 00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:13,200 Speaker 1: the whole George Floyd Kanye thing and it was like, well, 722 00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:15,600 Speaker 1: why is he getting sued for his perspective. I'm like, 723 00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:17,799 Speaker 1: it don't matter what your perspective is. When something has 724 00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:21,120 Speaker 1: already been established as a fact. He has a large platform, 725 00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:25,080 Speaker 1: and he has a very large platform, and what he 726 00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:29,520 Speaker 1: says speaks volumes to a larger and broader community that 727 00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:33,719 Speaker 1: wants to downplay and change the narrative and the impact 728 00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:36,600 Speaker 1: of that. That's what it is. The impact. It's not 729 00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:39,759 Speaker 1: the fact that he's just Kanye. The impact of what 730 00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:44,080 Speaker 1: you're saying it's devastating and who you're giving it to 731 00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:47,879 Speaker 1: and where you're getting it from. You're just repeating white 732 00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:50,600 Speaker 1: supremacist rhetoric, the same rhetoric that they who's to try 733 00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:53,280 Speaker 1: to get this guy off. He's repeating it from Candace 734 00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:57,840 Speaker 1: Owns his new best friend. So a documentary that I 735 00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:02,120 Speaker 1: would never watch? Do you think it's important to watch things? No? No, Yes, 736 00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:04,640 Speaker 1: it's important that I see what's out there so I 737 00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:07,600 Speaker 1: can be informed, Like coming here, you know, who knew 738 00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:10,160 Speaker 1: we were going to talk about him? But you know, 739 00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:14,480 Speaker 1: but I haven't watched her documentary. I don't want to 740 00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:17,320 Speaker 1: watch her document right because I already know the basis 741 00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:23,360 Speaker 1: of it. I've talked to people in George Food's family. 742 00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:25,600 Speaker 1: I've talked to people in the community. I've talked to 743 00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:29,080 Speaker 1: people who were there when it happened. I've talked to 744 00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:35,400 Speaker 1: Keith Allison, the state Attorney General. I don't need to 745 00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:38,799 Speaker 1: hear Candice Owens, you think people like attention from being 746 00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:42,840 Speaker 1: a contrarian and saying things that especially as is it 747 00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:45,480 Speaker 1: attention or are you being paid? Well? Does it? Is 748 00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:48,640 Speaker 1: there a benefit of payoff for you? You know? I mean, 749 00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:51,960 Speaker 1: if you are this juxtaposed to your own community that 750 00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:56,000 Speaker 1: you went into and ask for help from the NAACP 751 00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:00,120 Speaker 1: for something that happened to you many years ago, and 752 00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:06,080 Speaker 1: then you go polar opposite, you wonder why. I mean, 753 00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:08,680 Speaker 1: it's more than at tension, right, It's got to be 754 00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:14,719 Speaker 1: more than attention. M Well, ab Ryan the world, you know, 755 00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:16,799 Speaker 1: like Bishop td Jake's told you, I hope that you 756 00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:20,000 Speaker 1: are celebrating myself. Thank you, and I love that you 757 00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:22,960 Speaker 1: came in here and you, you know, gave me, uh, 758 00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:25,360 Speaker 1: you know, just lifted me up. And I want to 759 00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:27,040 Speaker 1: make sure we do the same thing for you. I mean, 760 00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:30,320 Speaker 1: thank you, sister. Black women will save the world an anthem. 761 00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:32,600 Speaker 1: Make sure you celebrate yourself. I went to Martha's Vineyard 762 00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:34,879 Speaker 1: for the first time. Did you love it? Yeah? I did. 763 00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:37,520 Speaker 1: I need a little more time there because it's different, 764 00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:40,239 Speaker 1: but it's it's Yeah, So how long were you there? 765 00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:41,799 Speaker 1: I was there during that time where they have the 766 00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:43,759 Speaker 1: Black Film Festival. Yeah, I was there for the first 767 00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:45,080 Speaker 1: two weeks, so we didn't see each other. I was 768 00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:47,319 Speaker 1: only there for like two days though. Oh no, you 769 00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:49,440 Speaker 1: need announced and there was not a lot of good 770 00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:51,000 Speaker 1: places to stay stay, so I didn't get to stay 771 00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:53,840 Speaker 1: in oak Bluff or anything. Really did you stay in Eggartown? 772 00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:56,680 Speaker 1: I have no idea. It was not really. Okay, next 773 00:43:56,680 --> 00:43:58,719 Speaker 1: time you come next year, reach out to me so 774 00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:01,160 Speaker 1: I can tell you and take you to places. The Coole. 775 00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:03,799 Speaker 1: Hannah Jones and I and my friend Tracy, we were 776 00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:06,359 Speaker 1: running through the island and my fiance we were running 777 00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:08,040 Speaker 1: through the island. We thought we were like the only 778 00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:10,400 Speaker 1: ones we had. We have a blast where we go. 779 00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:13,080 Speaker 1: So next time you go. But that's my place, that's 780 00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:16,640 Speaker 1: been my respite. And yeah, next time you go, we're 781 00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:18,680 Speaker 1: gonna take you to the inkwell and baptize you in 782 00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:24,439 Speaker 1: the Polar Bear heaven. So congratulations, great accomplishment, great buck. 783 00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:27,160 Speaker 1: Black women will save the world. Thank you, Brian if 784 00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:27,919 Speaker 1: the Breakfast Club