1 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:07,240 Speaker 1: Welcome to Money Making Conversations. It's to show that she 2 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:10,039 Speaker 1: has the secrets of success experience firsthand by marketing and 3 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:12,960 Speaker 1: Brandon expert ras Shan McDonald. I will know he's given 4 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 1: me advice on many occasions in ocasion didn't notice. I'm 5 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 1: not broke. You know. He'll be interview with celebrity CEOs, 6 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:22,520 Speaker 1: entrepreneurs and industry decision makers. It's what he likes to do, 7 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:25,040 Speaker 1: It's what he likes to share. Now it's time to 8 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 1: hear from my man, Rashan McDonald money Making Conversations. Here 9 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:32,720 Speaker 1: we go. Welcome to Money Making Conversation Masterclass. I'm your host, 10 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:35,520 Speaker 1: ras Sean McDonald. I recognized that we all have different 11 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:38,200 Speaker 1: definitions of success. For you, it may be the size 12 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 1: of your paycheck. Mine is inspiring people to accomplish their 13 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:43,920 Speaker 1: goals and live their very best life. It is time 14 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:46,880 Speaker 1: to stop reading other people's success stories and start writing 15 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 1: your own. People always talk about their purpose a gift. 16 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:52,159 Speaker 1: If you have a gift, leave with your gifts and 17 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 1: don't let your friends, family, or coworkers stop you from 18 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 1: planning or living your dream. My next guest is Sean Robinson. 19 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 1: She's an Emmy Award winning journalist, television personality, author, producer, philanthropists, 20 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 1: and she has a group an Amazing Girls Activities Organist 21 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:11,839 Speaker 1: empowerment activist organization. She's a prod graduate of an HBCU 22 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:16,119 Speaker 1: Spellman University in Atlanta. Geargia Sean established the Shawn Foundation 23 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 1: for Girls with Nurtures and supports underserved and underrepresented girls 24 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 1: and young women in the areas of stem health, arts, unity, 25 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 1: and neighborhoods. Sean is the executive producer of the very 26 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 1: entertaining a seven Deadly Sins series on Lifetime. We'll be 27 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 1: discussion her two new films that can currently be seen 28 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 1: on Lifetime, Wrath a seven and seven definitely Sinned story, 29 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:42,760 Speaker 1: and Greed, a seven deadly Sinned Story. Please work with 30 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 1: the money making conversation Masterclass, my differend and good person. 31 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 1: It always leads me down the road of happiness. Sean Robinson, 32 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 1: how are you? You know these are always really really 33 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 1: cool conversations because you know, we've known each other we 34 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 1: have to say, twenty years, any plus years, and we've 35 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 1: seen yeah, we've seen each other, uh, we shape ourselves. 36 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 1: We've seen each other being able to pivot, and we've 37 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 1: seen each other get a clear understanding of finding our voice. 38 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 1: And you know, I know when I in twenty six, 39 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:19,520 Speaker 1: when I stopped managing Steve, it was a struggle for 40 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 1: me to find my voice, you know, because I would 41 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 1: say two year, two and a half years, I was 42 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 1: still managing Steve Harty and not receiving checks because that 43 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 1: brand has been so established. And so you you had 44 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 1: a similar You established a relationship with an entertainment magazine 45 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 1: that was that was a blessing and accuraged because people 46 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 1: knew you from that, but then you wanted to get 47 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:42,119 Speaker 1: away from that. But now it's part of your resumes. 48 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 1: So now the blessing is part of your asset because 49 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 1: your brand is now under so many different positive umbrellas. 50 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:51,680 Speaker 1: Talk about pivoting and then being able to being able to, 51 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 1: you know, work really hard to build a brand, and 52 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 1: then redirecting that brand. Shawn. Yeah, you know, I think 53 00:02:57,880 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 1: that when you reach what is considered by many as 54 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 1: the pinnacle, and you were staying there and you think 55 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 1: that that is all the world is. And so I was. 56 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 1: I was at a you know, a successful entertainment show 57 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:18,920 Speaker 1: for sixteen years. It was a long time, and it 58 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 1: was you know, I found myself after a while, just 59 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:25,960 Speaker 1: kind of coasting, you know. I came in when entertainment 60 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 1: shows were that they they had a different type of 61 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:34,680 Speaker 1: influence than they have today. Like for example, if you know, 62 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 1: if Beyonce had a new album out or George Clooney 63 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:40,840 Speaker 1: had a new movie out, we were one of the 64 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 1: very few stops that they could make to promote their 65 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 1: material because this was before social media, before Instagram, Twitter, 66 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 1: and now Beyonce sends out a tweet that she's got 67 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 1: a new album out and that's all the publicity she needs, 68 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 1: and George Clooney, you know, gets on his social media 69 00:03:56,840 --> 00:04:00,120 Speaker 1: and that's all the publicity they need. So it so 70 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 1: it's a lot different today, and there are many, many, 71 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 1: many different platforms. So I was very blessed to come 72 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 1: to the show that I was on at a time 73 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 1: when it held a power position in Hollywood that was 74 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 1: different than it is today. So that was and I 75 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 1: was a little black girl from Detroit, Michigan, and I 76 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:24,559 Speaker 1: was at hot in Hollywood, and it was a really 77 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:28,600 Speaker 1: super super big deal and so I did everything. I 78 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:32,599 Speaker 1: squeezed everything out of that position that I could possibly squeeze. 79 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:35,720 Speaker 1: There was nothing else I could do that would be 80 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:39,599 Speaker 1: a challenge for me. Um, so you know, I look 81 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 1: at what is now the additional chapter. I don't even 82 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:44,119 Speaker 1: say the next chapter. I said, what is the additional chapter? 83 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:48,240 Speaker 1: And so you know, I still do my television work 84 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 1: on on you know, nine to Day Fiancee and which 85 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:59,360 Speaker 1: is a behemoth and right, yeah, and that's a that's 86 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:01,720 Speaker 1: a that's a in a hundred and sixty eight countries 87 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 1: and territories. So it was very it's huge, but also 88 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 1: like what is it what? I wanted to be a 89 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 1: content creator? I wanted to be an executive producer. So 90 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 1: I started talking to producers people were much smarter than 91 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:16,599 Speaker 1: I was, and and said how do I do this? 92 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:19,279 Speaker 1: And I started thinking of different types of shows that 93 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 1: I could produce. And so the seven Deadly Since series 94 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 1: that it was started as a book by author Victoria 95 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 1: Christopher Murray was really interesting and so I optioned the 96 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 1: entire series, pitched them around town, which at the Lifetime 97 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 1: in different places. Lifetime finally said yes, we want to 98 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 1: do this, and um, the partner was Bishop td Jake's, 99 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 1: which was couldn't get a bigger producing partner in this 100 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:45,360 Speaker 1: type of uh, in this type of situation, and so 101 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 1: Lust and Envy aired last year. This year it's Wrath 102 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 1: and Greed. So um, yes, and so to see my 103 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 1: name as an executive producer was was thrilling for me. 104 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 1: Will you please slow down? We talked. This ain't no 105 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:04,720 Speaker 1: like a five minute interview. We talked. We talked because 106 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:07,600 Speaker 1: I've seen every one of them. Okay, there's four so far, 107 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:10,720 Speaker 1: Like you said one, that's when you first came on 108 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:12,920 Speaker 1: the show talking about it, and we was excited. And 109 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 1: this is seven. We said, why are we you? And 110 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 1: hopefully we do them all at the same level of 111 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 1: you know, promotional push and excitement and the quality of 112 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:26,359 Speaker 1: actors and and this time around, you know, you have 113 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 1: my boy, Eric Binet, you know, he's in Greed, and 114 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:33,719 Speaker 1: then you have Michelle we that's my girl from Destiny's Child. 115 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 1: She's in uh, you know, Wrath. Okay, And the reason 116 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:38,719 Speaker 1: I bring these two people, these people are known for 117 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 1: singing and they and they have major in fact, Michelle 118 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 1: will is the star of that particular and is a major. 119 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 1: Eric there's a major player. Okay. He if he doesn't 120 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 1: do his character right, the show does, the film doesn't work, 121 00:06:56,839 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 1: he sells it. He sells it Oh my goodness, he's 122 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 1: very good. And of course the incredible Lisa ray lcor 123 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 1: Is in that she played that play. Uh, and and 124 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 1: and and so. And I say this because you know 125 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 1: when I watched, when I consider your friend Shaw, and 126 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 1: I know when I see your name on the screen 127 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 1: single card by myself, I just smiled, you know, I 128 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 1: smiled because I know there's a lot of hard work. 129 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 1: And that's why I don't want anybody to say when 130 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 1: she said, well, optioned out the book. And then Bishop T. D. 131 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 1: Jakes was the only person that he came into this 132 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 1: particular genre. Okay, this didn't happened over nineteen This is years. 133 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 1: This was years, and it was it was It was 134 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:46,680 Speaker 1: tied to trust, It was trying to faith. It was 135 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 1: tied to saying, I know this project, it's gonna somebody's 136 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 1: gonna find it, somebody's gonna enjoy, and I'm not gonna 137 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 1: be frustrated by it because I'm Sean Robinson and I 138 00:07:57,640 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 1: want to win. That's the story. I want to make 139 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 1: sure people here very clearly. You have to you have 140 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 1: to be ready for a lot of nose, okay, in 141 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 1: this business, and you can't get frustrated by the nose. 142 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 1: I mean, I've pitched so many projects even with this. 143 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 1: I optioned these books in two thousand sixteen, and so 144 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 1: I mean think this is twenty twenty two, so it's 145 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 1: been a minute. Okay, it's been a minute. And along 146 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 1: the way, there were many many struggles convincing people that 147 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 1: this was going to be a great project. And actually people, 148 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 1: you know, they the networks that I pitched it too, 149 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 1: They really love the concept. But there was like, oh, 150 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:41,560 Speaker 1: can we do it? Kind of I don't know if 151 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 1: we could do it, you know, do we want this star? 152 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:46,560 Speaker 1: And you know, we thought we had a certain person 153 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 1: and we didn't. And then that took a long time, 154 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:51,439 Speaker 1: and then the pandemic hit. I mean, there were a 155 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 1: lot of challenges, roadblocks, um that could have derailed the 156 00:08:57,559 --> 00:09:00,960 Speaker 1: project and just not only derailed this project, but made 157 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:06,680 Speaker 1: me so you know, weary of this process that I 158 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:10,320 Speaker 1: could put upset. Uh maybe this isn't for me. So 159 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 1: you know it it takes a lot of tenacity. It 160 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 1: takes faith, it takes endurance, it takes per civiliance, perseverance, 161 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 1: it takes strategic planning and just not being um, not 162 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:30,560 Speaker 1: being deterred. So don't be deterred. You know, if you 163 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 1: feel that you have a vision, if you feel this 164 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:36,720 Speaker 1: is something that you're passionate about, keep on pushing. Just 165 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 1: you have to keep on pushing. I mean, there is 166 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:42,679 Speaker 1: another There was another project that I have been literally 167 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:48,840 Speaker 1: working on for probably about eight at least eight years, 168 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 1: and then you know, got real close, and then it 169 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 1: didn't happen. And then somebody just called back, oh, hey, 170 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 1: do you still have that project? We might be interested 171 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 1: in that. I'm like, okay, you know, yeah, I still 172 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 1: have it. Just still got it. So just know that 173 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 1: there's certain things that are going to take longer to materialize. 174 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:19,520 Speaker 1: You know, this cake may bake in five minutes and 175 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:24,200 Speaker 1: this cake may bake in five years. Okay, so it 176 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 1: just depends on what the project is. But keep pushing. Now, 177 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 1: these two projects that we're talking about, these two films, 178 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:35,720 Speaker 1: like you said, Wrath and Greed, let's let's just let's 179 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:40,440 Speaker 1: talk about exactly what that seven deadly Seen series is 180 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 1: and why it is important because each one came from 181 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 1: a different style standpoint. Because because because the Wrath was 182 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 1: a straight on acting and then you had voiceover a 183 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 1: lot more so in Greed, because it was like telling 184 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 1: the story how you can make it was it was. 185 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 1: It was a different way presenting it, but it was 186 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 1: still world received by me. Talk about that whole presentation 187 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:07,840 Speaker 1: and how you pick the writers and the directors and 188 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 1: all that for each one of these different projects. Yeah, 189 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:13,839 Speaker 1: and at the center the seven deadly sins that people 190 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:19,719 Speaker 1: know um our morality tales. Okay, you know the wages 191 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 1: of sin is death, but there is redemption and so 192 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 1: these are stories of there there's going to be redemption 193 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 1: in our films. So um so that's where we're starting with. 194 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 1: You know, we are um, you know, we are presenting 195 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 1: these to our faith based audience. Um and if you 196 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 1: are not faith based, you might be after you wat movies. 197 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:51,320 Speaker 1: So um so that was a really important and you 198 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:56,199 Speaker 1: know each story is going to be told a little differently. 199 00:11:57,040 --> 00:11:59,600 Speaker 1: Then is going to be told a little differently, but 200 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 1: at the he at the basis to all of them, 201 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:07,320 Speaker 1: there is um there that these are morality tales and 202 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:11,840 Speaker 1: these are faith based stories. So that's what you have 203 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:15,360 Speaker 1: to be prepared for. But they're fun, rise their sexy, 204 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:19,920 Speaker 1: it's thrilling, um it is you know, you never know 205 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 1: what's going to happen next. You think you go, Okay, 206 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 1: this this, I bet it, this happens, and then something 207 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 1: totally different happens. And you know, I got a call 208 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 1: Michelle Williams. You know there's a couple of seeds. I'm 209 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 1: gonna have to call in teaser because she's like my 210 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:36,440 Speaker 1: little little lovettle you the right, you know, I said, oh, 211 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:39,640 Speaker 1: you got trade sexy up and there, and then she 212 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:44,679 Speaker 1: got straight sexy in it. She did. It was fun. 213 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 1: I was. It was fun watching it. But I want 214 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 1: to just say this, when you when you get the 215 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:51,720 Speaker 1: word faith based, people tend to run. Oh I want 216 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:56,839 Speaker 1: preaching to meet No. Yes, she's absolutely correct, but it's 217 00:12:56,920 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 1: written so organically. Did when I hear them delivering that 218 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:04,640 Speaker 1: statement of that message of what wrath is all about, 219 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 1: the point of view of why we're doing this particular film, 220 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 1: the message underlying message we're trying to do, I have 221 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 1: not taken aback. It's really that well done. I can't 222 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 1: forget Romeo Miller's in here, and I'm talking about the 223 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 1: one with with with Michelle Williams. Of course, Uh, you know, 224 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:25,720 Speaker 1: Beyonce's mom is in that. Tina knows Lawson, who I 225 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 1: know from my days in Houston, Texas. I go way 226 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:31,000 Speaker 1: back with her, way back, and I've been knowing her 227 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 1: since ninety two because I brought because I had a 228 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:38,040 Speaker 1: comedy club called Hip Hop Comedy Stop, and I brought 229 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:41,040 Speaker 1: Destiny Child on stage. That's how far back I go. 230 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:43,679 Speaker 1: Of course, way back then. Michelle Williams was some part 231 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 1: of the group. I met Michelle later when she joined 232 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 1: the group, But I've been knowing Destiny Child all the 233 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:52,880 Speaker 1: way back to two, so that my relationship. Yeah, just 234 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 1: just seeing that whole Just seeing Tina, I just laughed 235 00:13:56,160 --> 00:13:58,439 Speaker 1: and smiled at myself because she had a really big 236 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 1: beauty so long. That's how I met her in Houston 237 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:03,760 Speaker 1: at the time, and she was making a lot of money. 238 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:05,839 Speaker 1: She was very popular, I believe the name of his 239 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:08,800 Speaker 1: headliners in Houston, Texas at the time. And just see 240 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:12,199 Speaker 1: how you can again pivot and then readjust your career 241 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:15,720 Speaker 1: and move forward. And but each one of these are different. 242 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:18,840 Speaker 1: How does the casting process happen and do you participate 243 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 1: in the casting process? Sean Oh absolutely, as uh one 244 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 1: of the executive producers. I definitely participate in the casting process. 245 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 1: So you know, we think about, you know, who the 246 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 1: character is and who you know, who are a list 247 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 1: of people who would be good playing them. But also 248 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:41,960 Speaker 1: you've got to think about their relationship with the other characters. 249 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 1: So when we you know, when we knew we had Michelle, 250 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 1: we were so excited, and you know, we were thinking, Okay, 251 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:54,800 Speaker 1: who would be a good mother figure to her? Because 252 00:14:54,800 --> 00:15:03,520 Speaker 1: the mother is very important in her life. Oh can 253 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:06,680 Speaker 1: we get her? You know, So then that process started, 254 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:10,040 Speaker 1: so uh and then then you do you want good 255 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 1: chemistry between the leading lady and the men in her life. 256 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:17,920 Speaker 1: And so you know, Romeo was just absolutely fantastic. They 257 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:22,200 Speaker 1: had great chemistry. And Antonio Coupo also with Michelle, they 258 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 1: were just they were just handing it up on set. 259 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 1: It was really funny. So um, and so yes, you 260 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:33,080 Speaker 1: have to think about the character's relationship to other characters 261 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 1: in the movie and how that would play. So yeah, 262 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 1: we think we get did a good job. We have 263 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:42,520 Speaker 1: a really great cast both on Wrath and on Greed. 264 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 1: We'll be right back with more Money Making Conversations Masterclass 265 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 1: with Rushan McDonald. Now, let's return to Money Making Conversations 266 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 1: Masterclass with Rushan McDonald. I didn't share your name, and 267 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 1: she used the lead in the in g that's Monique Cole, 268 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:06,480 Speaker 1: that's my girl. I cannot go past this and not 269 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:09,360 Speaker 1: act like I didn't see her in this film, you know, 270 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:13,640 Speaker 1: laid it down because Greed slapped her in the face 271 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:17,240 Speaker 1: several times. She found the facts of life. We just 272 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 1: don't just laying it out there and that. But it 273 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 1: was all again organic, It was all very realistic. It 274 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:26,440 Speaker 1: was all the characters I found relatable. A boar friend 275 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:29,360 Speaker 1: and how she kind of disconnected from him because he 276 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:32,360 Speaker 1: wasn't living a lifestyle and everything. They this kind of 277 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 1: nighting sign and armor who had everything. He was older, 278 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 1: he was worldly, he could jump on a private jet 279 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:41,360 Speaker 1: and go to anyway he wanted to go. And he 280 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:45,000 Speaker 1: found this young lady who wanted these things. And that's 281 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 1: what this serious is about. You know. It's like, you know, 282 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 1: there's a couple of things. Be careful what you wished for, 283 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 1: you know, it's not always what you inspect. That was 284 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 1: That's what makes this that's I saw both movies back 285 00:16:56,920 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 1: to back, and I didn't see him being similar at 286 00:16:59,840 --> 00:17:05,320 Speaker 1: all all. Bravo, Bravo excellent. Yeah, yeah, yeah, they're very different, 287 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:08,680 Speaker 1: very different. But at the key, like I said, it's 288 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 1: that um you know what happens when you commit one 289 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 1: of these sins. This is what can happen. So hopefully 290 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:23,159 Speaker 1: people will think twice. You know, um, somebody said, uh, 291 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:26,240 Speaker 1: somebody asked me, well, so what's up? What's the message 292 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:29,440 Speaker 1: and greed? And what's the message in Wrath? I said, 293 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:34,760 Speaker 1: don't be greedy, don't have wrath. That's about That's the 294 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:38,040 Speaker 1: bottom line, right, and then ignore the signs of when 295 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:40,879 Speaker 1: is happening to you? And that's that's that's what it 296 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:43,679 Speaker 1: really amounts to as well, because we all deal with 297 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:47,679 Speaker 1: these decisions that we have to make, and we, like 298 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 1: I said, the morality is the base of what we 299 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:53,640 Speaker 1: all make our decisions. When you venture into these different sins, 300 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 1: then it tells you or is it? Are you being 301 00:17:56,280 --> 00:17:59,560 Speaker 1: consumed by it? And each movie you will see in 302 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:03,200 Speaker 1: Wrath an individual is consumed by that rap and how 303 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:07,359 Speaker 1: that wrap affects other people around that person when is consumed. 304 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:11,040 Speaker 1: When that person is consumed by that greed, you'll see 305 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 1: how that greed not just impacts them, but the people 306 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 1: they quote unquote care about and the people that they 307 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:20,360 Speaker 1: call their friends and business associates. That's what I loved 308 00:18:20,359 --> 00:18:24,119 Speaker 1: about these episodes. Their own lifetime right now. Please please 309 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:27,120 Speaker 1: watch them with your friends, your family, you know, take 310 00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:29,720 Speaker 1: a screenshot, tell us somebody and posted on social media. 311 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 1: Let them know you're watching it so they can get 312 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:34,800 Speaker 1: a good feel for quality program and being done by 313 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:39,440 Speaker 1: incredible or of African Americans. Producers, my man Mr t 314 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:42,520 Speaker 1: d J. And my favorite person in the world, Sean Robinson. 315 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:44,760 Speaker 1: But the thing I always love a boy Sean is 316 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:49,320 Speaker 1: that it always goes beyond what she does as an entertainer. 317 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:54,640 Speaker 1: Impactful your program, Sean, you know that we're talking about 318 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:57,280 Speaker 1: this several years. Tell us what's going on with it 319 00:18:57,440 --> 00:19:01,280 Speaker 1: and and the impact that you're making. And I've granted 320 00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:03,359 Speaker 1: to New York One day at the London Hotel, were 321 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:05,159 Speaker 1: talking about it, so I know how long this has 322 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:07,680 Speaker 1: been going on and how you would travel to Great 323 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:10,320 Speaker 1: Lens to get the word out about it. Yeah. So 324 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:13,560 Speaker 1: my foundation is called the Sean Foundation for Girls. I 325 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:16,560 Speaker 1: created it back in two thousands sixteen after I left 326 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 1: Access Hollywood for so long. And you know, my my 327 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 1: parents always taught me, if God gives you a platform 328 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 1: music to get back and so that's what I did. 329 00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:29,280 Speaker 1: I created this foundation and what we do is we 330 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:34,359 Speaker 1: support uh small nonprofits that are doing work in five 331 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:37,520 Speaker 1: key areas of girls issues, and those areas are represented 332 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:39,879 Speaker 1: by the acronym of my name s j U N 333 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:45,520 Speaker 1: SO s A STEM science, technology, engineering and math, ages, 334 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 1: health as arts, you is unity and in his neighborhood. 335 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:52,200 Speaker 1: So if there is a nonprofit that is doing work 336 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 1: in one of those five key areas, we would possibly 337 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:59,040 Speaker 1: goose for them. So and Sean what I hope to 338 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 1: my vision and what I hope to continue to grow 339 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:06,080 Speaker 1: the Sean Foundation for Girls as it's really a go 340 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:11,840 Speaker 1: to resource for these small nonprofits that you know, getting 341 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:15,240 Speaker 1: raising money is tough for any You've been in many 342 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:17,480 Speaker 1: charity events and they got a big folk to give 343 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:20,600 Speaker 1: the money. So it's hard. And when you are a 344 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:25,240 Speaker 1: small nonprofit, a small charity, it's even harder because a 345 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:28,119 Speaker 1: lot of times you don't have the resources. And so 346 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 1: I felt compelled to help those organizations that are working 347 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:37,760 Speaker 1: directly with girls, predominantly girls of color, underserved in underrepresented girls, 348 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 1: and to help them in their mission. And you know, uh, 349 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:46,560 Speaker 1: I was just at this philanthropy conference and it was 350 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 1: it was with women who were philanthropists like myself. And 351 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 1: one of the things that we had talked about and 352 00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 1: you probably know this is very important for Sean because 353 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:03,400 Speaker 1: you run into business. You know how many how all 354 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:06,520 Speaker 1: the line items there are to running a business, and 355 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:09,359 Speaker 1: so a lot of times when people give to charity, 356 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:12,480 Speaker 1: a lot of times, you know, when people give grants 357 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 1: to charities, small nonprofits, they're like, Okay, we want our 358 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 1: money to go to this, this and this. Okay, we 359 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:24,120 Speaker 1: wanted to go just to this mission, just to that. 360 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:30,280 Speaker 1: And so let's say you have, um, you know, let's 361 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:34,000 Speaker 1: say you have a homeless shelter. Let's say you have 362 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:37,280 Speaker 1: a shelter for homeless and so somebody might give you 363 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:40,919 Speaker 1: money and say, okay, I want this just to go 364 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:45,520 Speaker 1: for clothing for the women in the homeless shelter. That's 365 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:49,880 Speaker 1: just an example. Well that's great, But here's what happens 366 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:55,600 Speaker 1: with Sean, is that what are the other what are 367 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:58,639 Speaker 1: the other line volumes that you need when you're running 368 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 1: a business and the nonprofit is a business. You've got 369 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:05,400 Speaker 1: to keep the lights on, Okay, you have to have 370 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:10,720 Speaker 1: food for the people that um, you know that you serve, 371 00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:17,119 Speaker 1: you know, the secretary, the cleaning people to come and 372 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 1: clean your business. You've got the telephone bill, all of 373 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:24,640 Speaker 1: those are line items, and it's hard to get money 374 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 1: for that because a lot of people they when they 375 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:28,720 Speaker 1: give the money, they say, I just wanted I just 376 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:32,160 Speaker 1: wanted to go to this one thing. So what we 377 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:34,720 Speaker 1: were talking about at this philanthropy conference, so we just 378 00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:38,120 Speaker 1: had just so many great, great women talking about it. 379 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:45,840 Speaker 1: It's the importance of giving unrestricted funds to nonprofits. Unrestricted 380 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:48,360 Speaker 1: means they can use them in any areas. Now we're 381 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:50,480 Speaker 1: not and granted, there has to be there has to 382 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:53,359 Speaker 1: be checks and balances in the nonprofit world because you know, 383 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:55,920 Speaker 1: you don't you want to make sure that the nonprofit 384 00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:58,440 Speaker 1: you're doing, you vet them. And that's what we do. 385 00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:01,200 Speaker 1: That's what the Sean Foundation for grows us. We we 386 00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:04,800 Speaker 1: we we vet these organizations. We make sure they're doing 387 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:07,240 Speaker 1: the work. We'll make sure we are making sure they're 388 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 1: impactful and they're they're impacting girls lives, uh for you know, 389 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:17,080 Speaker 1: for the positive. And then we say, okay, so we 390 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:19,919 Speaker 1: want to help you with your mission, so we're giving 391 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:24,280 Speaker 1: you these funds so that you can continue your mission. 392 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:26,720 Speaker 1: And I used to say, okay, you got to use 393 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:30,440 Speaker 1: it in this area, and then I realized, like many 394 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:35,840 Speaker 1: people are realizing in what's called trust based philanthropy, Okay, 395 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:40,400 Speaker 1: we trust you. Okay, I'm gonna trust you to use 396 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:43,560 Speaker 1: this money in the best way possible so you can 397 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:47,040 Speaker 1: continue helping the people, helping the girls and young women 398 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:51,239 Speaker 1: that you serve. So that was that, that was that 399 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:55,480 Speaker 1: was my growth as a philanthropist and how I want 400 00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:59,200 Speaker 1: to make sure that my foundation helps as many organizations 401 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:02,840 Speaker 1: and as many people as possible. Well, that's the sort 402 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:05,840 Speaker 1: of an example of that. Like Mackenzie Scott, she gave 403 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:09,359 Speaker 1: four or four point one billion dollars to HBCUs with 404 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:12,040 Speaker 1: no restrictions. That's what she's talking about, exactly. You know, 405 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:16,200 Speaker 1: she trust one trusted them. She said, hey, here's the money. 406 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:19,600 Speaker 1: Here's fifty million dollars pery of you and m do 407 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:23,359 Speaker 1: what you need to better serve your community, the students, 408 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:26,440 Speaker 1: the infrastructure and put it and we trust that you're 409 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:30,399 Speaker 1: gonna do the right thing with this money. Exactly. She 410 00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:33,760 Speaker 1: could have said, here's fifty million dollars and it's got 411 00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 1: to go to scholarships, you know, it's got to go 412 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:40,040 Speaker 1: to scholarships for fifty people whatever. You know, he said, 413 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:43,919 Speaker 1: I trust you because I vetted you already and I 414 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 1: know that you're doing the work, so I trust you 415 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:48,920 Speaker 1: to take this and do what you need to do 416 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:51,680 Speaker 1: to continue that mission. And that's exactly what she's saying. 417 00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:54,359 Speaker 1: I just wanted to give clarity exactly with that. You know, 418 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:57,480 Speaker 1: I just mentioned word HBCUs. You know you're you're graduate 419 00:24:57,480 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 1: one of the great ones, and schools in this kind 420 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:03,440 Speaker 1: try to deliver black excellence on the regular basis. Spellman 421 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:07,080 Speaker 1: I always like, you know, I know Spellman College, you know, 422 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:10,600 Speaker 1: and uh, there's only with Benedict College. There's only two 423 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:14,240 Speaker 1: all female HBCUs. Right, Benedict College. I believe in spell 424 00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:17,560 Speaker 1: You know I shouldn't know that, but I think I 425 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:20,600 Speaker 1: think right. You know, Wow, I'm used to know it all. 426 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:22,200 Speaker 1: I'm used to know it all. You know, I'm gonna 427 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:24,800 Speaker 1: just throw out information that I claim to be correct. 428 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:28,159 Speaker 1: The beauty of going to that school. Can you just 429 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:32,160 Speaker 1: tell my listeners and my viewers, you know, Spellman College 430 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:36,240 Speaker 1: really taught me the value of sisterhood and that when 431 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:39,199 Speaker 1: you invest in a girl, she can change the world. 432 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:44,639 Speaker 1: And also, like, you know, I graduated a long time ago, 433 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:49,160 Speaker 1: and I can meet a Spellman sister today and still 434 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:53,960 Speaker 1: have a connection. And that's what the value of going 435 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:59,240 Speaker 1: to that school has has really shown me. It's about 436 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:02,119 Speaker 1: you will always have a connection I I you know, 437 00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 1: see people, uh women will say I'm your Spellman sister, sister, 438 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:09,119 Speaker 1: and it's just I mean we didn't go to school 439 00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:11,159 Speaker 1: at the same time or anything, but it's just a 440 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:14,240 Speaker 1: connection that we have because we love our school and 441 00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:18,680 Speaker 1: we knew that our school taught us that you will 442 00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:23,040 Speaker 1: have a connection to each woman that walks out of 443 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:27,560 Speaker 1: these doors after having this experience. So that's yeah. I 444 00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:30,680 Speaker 1: do anything I can to promote Spellman, and she does 445 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 1: a great job promoting her too, incredibly a series overall, 446 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:39,840 Speaker 1: She's already done two, one, three or four. That's Wrathing 447 00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:43,320 Speaker 1: Breeders at right now on Lifetime please executive produced by 448 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:45,359 Speaker 1: my man and Bishop T. D J's, but more important 449 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:48,479 Speaker 1: by my friend uh Sean Robinson. Please thank you for 450 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:51,000 Speaker 1: coming on my show, and that's always I support you 451 00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:54,480 Speaker 1: and keep moving ahead and keep delivering black excellence because 452 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:56,359 Speaker 1: you've been doing it and I can say it. You 453 00:26:56,359 --> 00:27:01,879 Speaker 1: know you still look fantastic over several decades. Appreciate it. 454 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:04,200 Speaker 1: If you want to hear that, you want to hear 455 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:06,960 Speaker 1: or see any of my interviews on money Making Conversation 456 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:09,280 Speaker 1: master Class. Please go to money Making Conversation dot com. 457 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:13,159 Speaker 1: I was Sean McDonald. I am your host. We'll be 458 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:17,720 Speaker 1: right back with more money Making Conversations Masterclass with Rushan McDonald. 459 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:22,480 Speaker 1: You are now tuned into the money Making Conversations Minute 460 00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:25,840 Speaker 1: of Inspiration with Rashan McDonald. Hire with Sean McDonald for 461 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:29,000 Speaker 1: money Making Conversation with your daily Minute of Inspiration. This week, 462 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 1: I said that with Grammy Award winning artist, actress and 463 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:35,840 Speaker 1: businesswoman Tamla Man, this pandemic hasn't slowed Tamla down at all. 464 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:38,879 Speaker 1: She's been booked and busy working on two movies, Tyler 465 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:42,920 Speaker 1: Perry's Assisted Living sitcom and her new gospel album Overcomer. 466 00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:46,400 Speaker 1: I guess it looks easy, but it's not easy for me, 467 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:52,160 Speaker 1: and I just don't I just really, I just really 468 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:55,600 Speaker 1: didn't understand. So I was like, it was God who 469 00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:57,720 Speaker 1: did this for me. I didn't do it for myself. 470 00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:01,040 Speaker 1: It was a favor that He's placed upon life with 471 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:04,399 Speaker 1: the work that I've put in, and that's how he 472 00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:08,119 Speaker 1: did it for me. Came about that it's no goodness 473 00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:10,800 Speaker 1: of my own, but the Lord has sol fit to 474 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:13,680 Speaker 1: bless me. If you want to hear this full interview 475 00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:17,000 Speaker 1: with Tamila Man, it's available on Money Making Conversations. Now, 476 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:22,040 Speaker 1: let's return to Money Making Conversations Masterclass with Rashan McDonald. 477 00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:25,120 Speaker 1: My next guest, there are sisters. I always talk about 478 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:28,359 Speaker 1: gifts and leading with your gifts and purpose. Well, they 479 00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:30,800 Speaker 1: leave with their gifts and they don't let their friends, 480 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:33,280 Speaker 1: family because they are family or co workers stop them 481 00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:35,760 Speaker 1: from planning or living their dreams. Because they're planning, they're 482 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:39,320 Speaker 1: living their dream together. My next guests are Christian songwriter 483 00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:42,640 Speaker 1: singer and songwriter Billboard numb one chart topping in two 484 00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:47,120 Speaker 1: times Stellar Award nominee Keandra Lockett and her Atlanta based 485 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:50,720 Speaker 1: celebrity fashion stylish sister, Kim Lockett are the founders of 486 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:54,400 Speaker 1: a luxury Essential Where brand that recently launched in Target 487 00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:59,000 Speaker 1: stores nationwide. That's right, nationwide, not in Georgia, not in 488 00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:04,240 Speaker 1: region nay why. The premium brand name means Pretty Black 489 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:07,080 Speaker 1: in French was created in twenty and eighteen to celebrate 490 00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:11,400 Speaker 1: Black diversity and inclusion while offering stylish, high fashion Essential 491 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 1: Where for both women and men. Women and men. That 492 00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:17,680 Speaker 1: means I am styling my stuff too. It's wearable size 493 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:22,680 Speaker 1: includes extra small and size. Excel collection includes tops, bottoms, 494 00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:26,320 Speaker 1: matching sets and accessories customers designed in the house by 495 00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:29,600 Speaker 1: the Dynamic Duo. Please work with the money making conversation 496 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:34,040 Speaker 1: real life sisters and entrepreneurs. KeAndre and Kim like it. 497 00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:38,440 Speaker 1: How are you doing? Don't do me like that? Don't 498 00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:40,960 Speaker 1: y'all do me like that? Hi, because I gotta figure 499 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:43,320 Speaker 1: out who I'm talking to? Kei Andrew, let me hear 500 00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:49,160 Speaker 1: that voice. Oh, Kim can give me another vot. Don't 501 00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:51,840 Speaker 1: do me like I just because y'all were supposed to 502 00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:53,400 Speaker 1: be a studio with me. Y'all were supposed to be 503 00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:55,600 Speaker 1: a studio. So now I gotta figure out who I'm 504 00:29:55,640 --> 00:30:00,720 Speaker 1: talking to the audio and that is always an campaign 505 00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:02,800 Speaker 1: for me. But welcome. First of all, you know I 506 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:05,520 Speaker 1: did not want to mess up the name of your brand, 507 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:10,680 Speaker 1: So please, Kiandra, please tell me the name of your brand. Okay, 508 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:19,040 Speaker 1: it's no Jolie. You are Jolie New Area, yep. So, So, Kim, 509 00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:22,480 Speaker 1: where did that name come from? Uh? So? Kianda and 510 00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:26,080 Speaker 1: I we are from Louisiana, and okay what part of Louisiana. 511 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:28,880 Speaker 1: Now let's just do through Louisiana. Like it's because the 512 00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:31,840 Speaker 1: North is different from the South, because my parents are 513 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:38,360 Speaker 1: born from the North. Yes, that's my parents are from 514 00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:44,560 Speaker 1: Our parents were born and raised the Streeport. Absolutely, absolutely, absolutely, 515 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:50,200 Speaker 1: I know it's difference, yes, absolutely so um yeah, So 516 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:52,520 Speaker 1: because we are from Louisiana, we want to pull from 517 00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:55,880 Speaker 1: the French culture of Louisiana, UM, just a little part 518 00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:58,560 Speaker 1: of us. We wanted a name that meant something to us, 519 00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:02,480 Speaker 1: um and could carry and that could be marketable as well. 520 00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:05,720 Speaker 1: And so we rested on Joey Law because so many 521 00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:09,280 Speaker 1: black women, um do not have a space to let 522 00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:12,120 Speaker 1: our hair down, if you will. Because we initially designed 523 00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:15,200 Speaker 1: for black women, um, and then we uh here recently 524 00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:18,640 Speaker 1: last year created a space in our closet, hypothetical closet 525 00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:22,200 Speaker 1: for men. So that is how men became a part 526 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:25,960 Speaker 1: because also pretty black. We know that, um, not only 527 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:31,480 Speaker 1: black women fight with image insecurity, but black men as well. 528 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:35,040 Speaker 1: We've learned that along our journey. So yeah, we are 529 00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:37,800 Speaker 1: doing this. They say for the culture. Well, you know 530 00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:40,800 Speaker 1: it's so important because like as a man, you know, 531 00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:43,360 Speaker 1: because I I'm known for wearing suits and ties and 532 00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:45,280 Speaker 1: being suited in Buddhists if you would see me in 533 00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:51,840 Speaker 1: blue jeans or casually all like almost faint. So so 534 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:55,400 Speaker 1: it's important that beca that that you know, I love 535 00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:58,240 Speaker 1: to dress comfortable. I got my my little Jordan's shoes 536 00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:00,800 Speaker 1: that match with could I matched though. I'm a matching person. 537 00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:03,920 Speaker 1: Now when I'm castling, I match up, you know everything. 538 00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:07,080 Speaker 1: I'm very neat and so so so when you went 539 00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:09,200 Speaker 1: to to to the because I got the factor on 540 00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:13,680 Speaker 1: the female side, understanding that that need that where but 541 00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:16,760 Speaker 1: on the male side, what was your research and launching 542 00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:22,040 Speaker 1: a mail line? So we actually um hold some of 543 00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:25,800 Speaker 1: our closest male friends and they were like, yeah, I 544 00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:28,040 Speaker 1: would totally wear this. I would wear you know, something 545 00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:30,440 Speaker 1: with a woman on it. Um. And we also already 546 00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:34,280 Speaker 1: had some huge male followings who was already supporting the brand. 547 00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:37,920 Speaker 1: So we still look at pieces that were moving by men. 548 00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:41,960 Speaker 1: And that is how we created our section of our 549 00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:47,800 Speaker 1: website to see unisex um what was already appealing to men. Right, So, Kim, 550 00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:50,960 Speaker 1: you all these celebrity fashion styles. Okay, you got the 551 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:53,760 Speaker 1: celebrity singer over there. You know she's she coming into 552 00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:56,120 Speaker 1: your lane? Now she coming over here? When I did 553 00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:58,600 Speaker 1: you know you weren't over there. You were over there 554 00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:00,480 Speaker 1: trying to sing back up in her group. You know 555 00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:02,600 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. You know, you know what I'm saying. 556 00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:04,840 Speaker 1: You know, I'm just telling the truth. Fan she coming 557 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:08,800 Speaker 1: over here. So how did you feel sharing that space 558 00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:12,480 Speaker 1: with your equally talented sister? But she was talented in 559 00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:17,640 Speaker 1: another line? Yeah, I wouldn't actually have it any other way. 560 00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:21,160 Speaker 1: You know, it's their power numbers. We both believe that. 561 00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:24,920 Speaker 1: And uh with the design, you know, that's all. There's 562 00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:28,760 Speaker 1: always someone to bounce ideas off of and also to 563 00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:31,600 Speaker 1: get ideas from. So we both gleaned from each other 564 00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:36,480 Speaker 1: um with it, so it just only flowed naturally for us. 565 00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:40,280 Speaker 1: Well that that's really key because when I went, like 566 00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:42,160 Speaker 1: I said, when you when you have a brand, it 567 00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:46,280 Speaker 1: all starts with an idea. Now, Kiandra, you you know 568 00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:48,320 Speaker 1: when you started your singing career as a team. You 569 00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:50,720 Speaker 1: started with a group. If I'm not mistaken, you started 570 00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:53,320 Speaker 1: with a group, and then so and then you became 571 00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:57,280 Speaker 1: a solo artist. Just just understanding, now you're working in 572 00:33:57,320 --> 00:34:00,320 Speaker 1: conjunction with your sister. I know that's totally different. Just 573 00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:03,800 Speaker 1: talk to my listeners and tell them that how how 574 00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:07,440 Speaker 1: that how that has helped this relationship here, being able 575 00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:10,840 Speaker 1: to share thoughts, working as a team with a focus 576 00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:14,360 Speaker 1: goal based on your relationship with your singing group that 577 00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:16,399 Speaker 1: you are when you started your career, can you talk 578 00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:21,760 Speaker 1: about that? Yeah? Well, um actually um, building and growing 579 00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:25,319 Speaker 1: with the group. UM, of course that would you know, 580 00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:27,960 Speaker 1: kind of help um, you know, as it relates to 581 00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:31,600 Speaker 1: understanding people and knowing how to work with people. But 582 00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:34,080 Speaker 1: of course, being my main Kim, have you know, been 583 00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:37,360 Speaker 1: sisters all of our lives, it's kind of easy to 584 00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:40,839 Speaker 1: you know, work with her. Um still even if there 585 00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:45,640 Speaker 1: wasn't um, like the start with the group, you know, 586 00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:49,520 Speaker 1: and so um she's also worked with me with the 587 00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:53,479 Speaker 1: group for several years. She styled the group and then 588 00:34:53,800 --> 00:35:02,920 Speaker 1: um uh did she did some background singing for I 589 00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:09,640 Speaker 1: hate it, but by word yes, uh huh. But it's 590 00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:12,960 Speaker 1: it's pretty easy working, you know with her. I'm used 591 00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:16,440 Speaker 1: to working with her. UM. Yeah. I just I think 592 00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:20,560 Speaker 1: it's you know, because we're sisters too, so well being sisters, Kim, 593 00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:23,719 Speaker 1: you know that all you ever wanted support. I come 594 00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:26,960 Speaker 1: from a large family, succesters, two brothers. Sometimes that was 595 00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:29,520 Speaker 1: too much support, you know, and also not as much 596 00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:31,880 Speaker 1: food okay, when you wanted to go back for seconds 597 00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:34,359 Speaker 1: and was always what you thought should be left, just left. 598 00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:39,880 Speaker 1: But I know that, you know, the the ability to 599 00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:44,719 Speaker 1: share success with families always special. And the fact that 600 00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:48,360 Speaker 1: you guys are now sharing success you know under that 601 00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:54,040 Speaker 1: locked brand. Talk to us about that. Yeah, So it 602 00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:56,840 Speaker 1: just goes back to us being you know, this is 603 00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:59,760 Speaker 1: actually who we are. I guess you could say our parents. 604 00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:02,719 Speaker 1: Our dad rather was in the military, so we moved 605 00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:05,760 Speaker 1: around a lot, um, and so it's just been Keiana 606 00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:08,120 Speaker 1: and I. So to share in our successes. We've shared 607 00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:11,000 Speaker 1: in everything else, so why not share in our successes. 608 00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:14,879 Speaker 1: And we've always you know, kind of championed each other 609 00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:17,480 Speaker 1: on and cheered each other on, um in each of 610 00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:21,560 Speaker 1: our individual endeavors. So um to share that. Once I 611 00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:24,040 Speaker 1: had a teacher, UM, because I got my master's degree 612 00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:27,319 Speaker 1: here in Atlanta. That's what actually brought up here. I UM. 613 00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:31,520 Speaker 1: One of my teachers said, don't share the same passion 614 00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:33,839 Speaker 1: as one of your siblings because it would never work 615 00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:37,359 Speaker 1: because we'll be jealous of the other. But um, one 616 00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:40,000 Speaker 1: thing that I was like when he said that, I 617 00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:43,239 Speaker 1: was like, well, that's not really true, because my sister 618 00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:46,720 Speaker 1: and I have always overlapped in each other's e lanes, 619 00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:50,480 Speaker 1: if you will. We've always given input to each other's processes, 620 00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:53,680 Speaker 1: and um, you know, we've always been a part of 621 00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:56,239 Speaker 1: each other's process is almost to the point that we 622 00:36:56,640 --> 00:37:01,360 Speaker 1: it's almost impossible to imagine us without without the each other. Um, 623 00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:04,919 Speaker 1: almost like we're twins. UM. So I you know, could 624 00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:08,120 Speaker 1: not get grasp that, you know, that did not process 625 00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:10,960 Speaker 1: what was me? Said what was me? So? Yeah, the 626 00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:16,800 Speaker 1: successes that we have had, um, we share them almost equally. 627 00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:21,760 Speaker 1: You know. It's really interesting. You know, I've always people 628 00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:24,359 Speaker 1: have told me what I could do and could not do, 629 00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:26,120 Speaker 1: and always when they told me what I could do 630 00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:28,279 Speaker 1: was always lesser than what I thought I could do. 631 00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:31,120 Speaker 1: I remember when I was throughing out early in my career, 632 00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:33,560 Speaker 1: I was doing stand up comedy on the regular basis, 633 00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:36,960 Speaker 1: and I remember I walked off stage and it's a 634 00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:40,239 Speaker 1: co called comedy Workshop, White Club, Owner, White audience, and 635 00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:42,560 Speaker 1: I was to a standing ovation and this guy and 636 00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:44,759 Speaker 1: the owner went, you know something, if you could you know, 637 00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:46,799 Speaker 1: you got a little accent with Sean, If you just 638 00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:48,880 Speaker 1: clean up that accent, you could be a lot funnier. 639 00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:51,759 Speaker 1: I go, but they was a standing ovation, you know, 640 00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:55,920 Speaker 1: so people can stereotype you with statements and then they 641 00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:58,920 Speaker 1: can question whether or not you have the ability to achieve. 642 00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:02,440 Speaker 1: And so when they when the teacher said that, that 643 00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:05,280 Speaker 1: could have been an acid peel in your relationship because 644 00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:08,799 Speaker 1: you could have questioned the desire to have that relationship. 645 00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:12,000 Speaker 1: But love and a clear understanding of who you two 646 00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:15,640 Speaker 1: are superseded that madness. And I think faith pays a 647 00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:20,200 Speaker 1: major role in that. Correct. Absolutely, yeah, yeah. We were 648 00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:24,279 Speaker 1: raised to be safe based and um we carried and 649 00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:27,359 Speaker 1: we've carried that on into our adult lives. We can't 650 00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:29,880 Speaker 1: do anything without the Lord. Actually, Joli noir would not 651 00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:33,759 Speaker 1: be without the Lord. Praise the Lord. Come on that. 652 00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:39,680 Speaker 1: We're gonna take some phone calls. We're gonna be praising 653 00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:41,960 Speaker 1: all the way for another half hour. Got them ladies 654 00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:44,560 Speaker 1: and gentleman. I got the locket system ship one kind 655 00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:48,360 Speaker 1: of consaint. She did background. She won't confess. Lord, we 656 00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:51,680 Speaker 1: know consing. I don't know who I'm talking to. I 657 00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:54,759 Speaker 1: just say their name. They respond to me. That way 658 00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:59,799 Speaker 1: we win. We're gonna take this short break me back 659 00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:03,279 Speaker 1: with the fantastic they closed and target everybody. Target. We're 660 00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:06,040 Speaker 1: gonna make it happen. I love positive energy. I love 661 00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:09,640 Speaker 1: people who understand that this show is about uplift. This 662 00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:12,799 Speaker 1: show about motivating people to be successful, allowing them to 663 00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:15,759 Speaker 1: tell their story in a in a manner where they 664 00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:18,560 Speaker 1: feel comfortable and they feel is relatable. But the information 665 00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:21,600 Speaker 1: that they delivered to the listeners also, I hope inspires them. 666 00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:23,880 Speaker 1: I hope and they inspires and encourages them. When I 667 00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:25,839 Speaker 1: say that, k Android, and I say that to you, Kim. 668 00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:28,160 Speaker 1: The inspiration we're trying to get out of this interview 669 00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:31,120 Speaker 1: to everyday people is what what message I'm gonna start 670 00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:33,839 Speaker 1: with you, Kim? What what? What's the overall message would 671 00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:36,520 Speaker 1: you want people to take from you when they hear 672 00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:39,640 Speaker 1: us discuss the success of your brand, the success of 673 00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:45,000 Speaker 1: your career so far. Yeah, so that black people can 674 00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:47,960 Speaker 1: succeed in persevere through anything, as we all know that. 675 00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:51,200 Speaker 1: But we are two girls. Um, so we went to 676 00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:55,480 Speaker 1: college like we have not. We had entrepreneur experience in 677 00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:58,000 Speaker 1: the past, but this is not our path. We didn't 678 00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:00,879 Speaker 1: go to school for business. Um. We actually have very 679 00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:06,600 Speaker 1: different career path for our personal careers. But yeah, you 680 00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:10,400 Speaker 1: can actually succeed in as black women. Um, you definitely 681 00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:14,399 Speaker 1: can be all odds. You don't have to consider the odds. Um, 682 00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:17,600 Speaker 1: even as you are going through life, you just continue 683 00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:20,120 Speaker 1: to work in your own lane and continue to move 684 00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:23,880 Speaker 1: forward and with the Lord. That's that's the basis that 685 00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:27,000 Speaker 1: we always have to come from. You can do anything 686 00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:30,760 Speaker 1: the Bible best that we can achieve all things to price. So, um, 687 00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:35,640 Speaker 1: that's absolutely truth. Yeah. Um, Actually I'm gonna go back 688 00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:40,840 Speaker 1: to the whole faith conversation. UM. I think that a 689 00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:46,880 Speaker 1: lot of times, as especially millennial entrepreneurs or just millennial 690 00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:51,720 Speaker 1: UH based people, we always figure that, you know, we 691 00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:54,239 Speaker 1: we do the work like you know, I I hit 692 00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:56,880 Speaker 1: up and we have this whole thing like you know, 693 00:40:56,920 --> 00:41:00,160 Speaker 1: the hostel culture. Um. We we think we get up 694 00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:03,400 Speaker 1: in the morning and you know, we we say our 695 00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:07,920 Speaker 1: little mantra or a little affirmations and life is gonna be, 696 00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:10,160 Speaker 1: you know what it needs to be. Our career, all 697 00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:12,200 Speaker 1: of that will be what it needs to be. But 698 00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:17,319 Speaker 1: it is really God's timing, his season, his hand on 699 00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:20,640 Speaker 1: your life and your career. If that we couldn't have 700 00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:25,600 Speaker 1: manifested this if you will as best as He planned 701 00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:29,600 Speaker 1: this for us. And so um, so I've always felt 702 00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:33,640 Speaker 1: this anxiety. Um, you know, like I'm not in the 703 00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:35,719 Speaker 1: place and I'm supposed to be in or I'm not 704 00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:38,799 Speaker 1: doing exactly what it is that I planned to what 705 00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:41,799 Speaker 1: I see my other peers doing. And the whole time, 706 00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:44,480 Speaker 1: the Lord has been like, that's not for you. And 707 00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:47,480 Speaker 1: the timing and their season their place, that's not for you. 708 00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:52,799 Speaker 1: But if if you live to be let's say fifty five, 709 00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:56,680 Speaker 1: and you do, you start doing and building and creating 710 00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:59,880 Speaker 1: at age fifty, that is the time that I designed 711 00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:02,880 Speaker 1: for you. And that's the destiny and and and the 712 00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:05,480 Speaker 1: season that will be fulfilled for you. That's what I 713 00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:07,920 Speaker 1: created for you, and that's what you're going to do. 714 00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:11,040 Speaker 1: You can't create it yourself as best as God can. 715 00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:14,040 Speaker 1: Jesus was on on this earth for thirty three years 716 00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:17,360 Speaker 1: and didn't start his ministry until a couple of years 717 00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:20,320 Speaker 1: before his death, you know, And so it's the same 718 00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:24,040 Speaker 1: thing with us. You can't. You can't create and and 719 00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:27,160 Speaker 1: make a life best for yourself better than God can. 720 00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:30,359 Speaker 1: You know. That's what I want people to walk away with. Well, 721 00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:33,560 Speaker 1: I understand that. I believe that, and I take that 722 00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:37,080 Speaker 1: blessing because of the fact that you know, you know, 723 00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:40,239 Speaker 1: I'm not a person that acknowledges my face publicly all 724 00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:41,759 Speaker 1: the time. In fact, it took me a while to 725 00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:45,520 Speaker 1: even accept the responsibility of of who I am and 726 00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:48,800 Speaker 1: why why do I exist? What? What? What? What binds 727 00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:51,800 Speaker 1: me to success? You know it's it. You know it's 728 00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:54,040 Speaker 1: the right place at the right time. I'm I'm lucky. 729 00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:57,560 Speaker 1: It is my faith. It gets me up. The law 730 00:42:57,640 --> 00:43:01,880 Speaker 1: clock doesn't get me up. What motivates me to be successful? 731 00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:04,440 Speaker 1: When the mote invates me to encourage the blessings that 732 00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:07,360 Speaker 1: I have received on to other people. Who drives me 733 00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:10,880 Speaker 1: to come here every Tuesday to speak to individuals on 734 00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:13,600 Speaker 1: a live radio show when I could just play a 735 00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:16,439 Speaker 1: radio just play a recorded version of my show because 736 00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:18,000 Speaker 1: I want to make a difference and I want to 737 00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:19,880 Speaker 1: I want to change lives. And when I listen to 738 00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:22,839 Speaker 1: what you just said, what Kim just said, I love 739 00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:25,600 Speaker 1: it because we have two individuals who are driven by 740 00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:28,640 Speaker 1: the same passion to be successful, but they speak in 741 00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:32,040 Speaker 1: talking uniquely different, but they come together as a team 742 00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:38,000 Speaker 1: under faith, guided by mission. That YouTube can be them. 743 00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:40,799 Speaker 1: YouTube can have a product and talk. Okay, not only 744 00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:43,279 Speaker 1: a product can target, but the product can target that 745 00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:47,279 Speaker 1: sales that you know come I go say that one 746 00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:52,880 Speaker 1: more time. Ladies say see you see the beauty of that. 747 00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:54,279 Speaker 1: We've got a caller to him. Gonna go to the 748 00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:57,080 Speaker 1: call in a minute. Because the beauty of you Andre, 749 00:43:57,239 --> 00:43:59,760 Speaker 1: you know, you have that energy of you know, hearing 750 00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:01,520 Speaker 1: your song on the radio. I know you when you 751 00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:07,360 Speaker 1: first heard oh my god. Okay, now, so tell me 752 00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:11,279 Speaker 1: kim in Kiandra, when you walked into Target and saw 753 00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:15,640 Speaker 1: your product, tell us that reaction. You know, it was 754 00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:19,479 Speaker 1: like nothing that I've ever experienced, because this is Kim 755 00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:22,360 Speaker 1: So as you mentioned, Kiandre has had that experience of 756 00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:26,960 Speaker 1: having a project, her baby, you know, consumed by the masses. 757 00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:30,920 Speaker 1: But I, um, I was so nervous leading up to 758 00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:35,359 Speaker 1: January because I was like, Lord, I don't know if 759 00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:37,480 Speaker 1: they're going to love these designs as much as the 760 00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:41,520 Speaker 1: people who already support us love them. You know, they's 761 00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:45,600 Speaker 1: up to so many more people in opinions and you know, 762 00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:48,440 Speaker 1: things like that. So it's like, oh my goodness, it's 763 00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:52,600 Speaker 1: go time, you know. And so um when I walked 764 00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:55,200 Speaker 1: into the Target that because first of all, we had 765 00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:58,719 Speaker 1: to go to several targets because the news spirals out 766 00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:01,759 Speaker 1: of control in a really good way. But to the 767 00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:05,319 Speaker 1: point that we could not find UM within the Atlanta 768 00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:07,800 Speaker 1: area like with it, like we went to like five 769 00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:11,480 Speaker 1: stores looking for the product um we in some most 770 00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:14,520 Speaker 1: stores we probably saw two or three pieces and what 771 00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:16,960 Speaker 1: I was looking for with the entire collection at one 772 00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:22,160 Speaker 1: time at least one piece of UH just to see 773 00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:26,200 Speaker 1: how it looks. That was an overwhelming and exciting feeling 774 00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:30,240 Speaker 1: because those people grabbed that stuff off of the shelves 775 00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:32,920 Speaker 1: and actually one of the pieces because we gave them 776 00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:37,920 Speaker 1: um Our best sellers UM and then we revamped them 777 00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:40,680 Speaker 1: for them, so like some of the colors are different 778 00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:44,800 Speaker 1: and things like that, but um Our no icon t shirts. 779 00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:47,680 Speaker 1: We hadn't even tested on our own website to be 780 00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:50,200 Speaker 1: a bit was good or not, and people loved it. 781 00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:54,839 Speaker 1: So that was like so rewarding UM more rewarding than 782 00:45:55,000 --> 00:46:08,480 Speaker 1: graduating like a TA. We'll be right back with more 783 00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:16,080 Speaker 1: Money Making Conversations master Class with Rashan McDonald. Now let's 784 00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:21,120 Speaker 1: return to Money Making Conversations master Class with Rashan McDonald. Well, 785 00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:23,120 Speaker 1: the people are calling it. Let me get one of 786 00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:26,640 Speaker 1: my first calls in corn Alta based in Atlanta. How 787 00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:31,280 Speaker 1: you doing coaita, Hi, rash how are you doing great? Great. 788 00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:34,719 Speaker 1: You know, I have the wonderful ke, Andre and Kim 789 00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:36,600 Speaker 1: on the call here. What is your question? Thank you 790 00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:39,080 Speaker 1: for calling the Money Making Conversation master Class. What is 791 00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:43,520 Speaker 1: your question to them? So I'm very um I feel 792 00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:48,080 Speaker 1: blessed her your testimony in a sense. And it's funny 793 00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:50,440 Speaker 1: you should say even if you're fifty five, because I'm 794 00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:54,640 Speaker 1: fifty five and you know, other things were not for you, 795 00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:58,720 Speaker 1: that whatever your path is now, this is for you. 796 00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:01,560 Speaker 1: And I just to appreciate that so much because so 797 00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:04,880 Speaker 1: many times I've worked for other people and other things 798 00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:08,480 Speaker 1: and you know, always feeling like, oh, I'm too old 799 00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:11,399 Speaker 1: to start overall too old to do this and to that, 800 00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:14,919 Speaker 1: do that. And I just appreciate that so much. Where 801 00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:18,879 Speaker 1: you saying that? With that being said, did somebody or 802 00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:22,160 Speaker 1: did you have a mentor you know to help you 803 00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:24,200 Speaker 1: along the pathway of this because you said you didn't 804 00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:27,640 Speaker 1: go to school for this. Did someone you know, um 805 00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:31,120 Speaker 1: help you along to kind of guide you into the 806 00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:36,360 Speaker 1: retail business? Um? Actually we did a lot of research. 807 00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:43,279 Speaker 1: Um Our mom uh is basically like a business money head, 808 00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:46,200 Speaker 1: if if you will. She's very intelligent and very good 809 00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:49,960 Speaker 1: with money. So we had that UH component or element 810 00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:53,480 Speaker 1: as well. And then we also had um a business 811 00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:58,600 Speaker 1: coach for about the first the first year, yeah, first 812 00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:02,960 Speaker 1: year of our our existence, as Joelie mais, So I 813 00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:07,480 Speaker 1: think that with those things, um, this is the reason 814 00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:11,480 Speaker 1: why we are here and showing up every day, um, 815 00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:15,720 Speaker 1: even when people were not there. You know, at times 816 00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:19,160 Speaker 1: it almost brings me to tears steel because it's amazing 817 00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:22,439 Speaker 1: how we are here at this moment. But back then 818 00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:25,479 Speaker 1: it was like Lord, like when is this home take off? 819 00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:30,879 Speaker 1: But at times we were on social media selling to ourselves, 820 00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:34,920 Speaker 1: you know, put in cashes the pages out there to 821 00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:38,400 Speaker 1: uh two people and you know they weren't they weren't 822 00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:40,799 Speaker 1: there because it was only like maybe a hundreds and 823 00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:44,480 Speaker 1: stuff of people who were um, you know, even following us. 824 00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:49,120 Speaker 1: So uh, it takes a bit of everything, um, to 825 00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:52,120 Speaker 1: be able to be successful in whatever it is you know, 826 00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:57,680 Speaker 1: career path that you've chosen. But um, it'll eventually work out. 827 00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:01,279 Speaker 1: And Keiana and I also owned a business prior to 828 00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:03,880 Speaker 1: Jolie Lam called The Right Glass and Sisters, So we 829 00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:09,480 Speaker 1: learned everything not to do from from the glasness. So 830 00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:13,440 Speaker 1: it does take taking that risk, um, and I do 831 00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:16,399 Speaker 1: you know, I do suggest that you at least fund 832 00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:19,760 Speaker 1: a friend group of business owners if you can't afford 833 00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:23,239 Speaker 1: a mentor, because I know some mentors charge UM. What 834 00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:27,120 Speaker 1: we also surround ourselves. We have other friends who have businesses. 835 00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:29,880 Speaker 1: And then of course KeAndre and I being me being 836 00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:33,280 Speaker 1: a wardrobe silist, that's the business. Keandre's music is another business. 837 00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:37,399 Speaker 1: So UM. You know, so we've had working knowledge of 838 00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:40,600 Speaker 1: how to structure a little bit, although clothing is so 839 00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:45,439 Speaker 1: different than the other businesses that have UM. But yeah, 840 00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:49,600 Speaker 1: so it is about researching UM a lot. It's a 841 00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:51,879 Speaker 1: lot of reading. Even now we still do a lot 842 00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:55,319 Speaker 1: of reading. Did you have to say abbressive? Like what's new? Um? 843 00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:58,279 Speaker 1: In whatever industry you're in. But the biggest piece of 844 00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:00,959 Speaker 1: advice is to just get started. If it doesn't work, 845 00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:03,520 Speaker 1: you're not You're not a failure. It just means that 846 00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:06,200 Speaker 1: that wasn't the thing or the time for that thing. 847 00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:09,160 Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you for calling in on the show. 848 00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:13,239 Speaker 1: You were fantastic with that question. I appreciate you. You know, 849 00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:15,680 Speaker 1: you know, I think I'm just they just took over 850 00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:19,040 Speaker 1: my show right there, you know that every they became 851 00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:21,000 Speaker 1: a master class. I don't even know. I just love 852 00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:23,319 Speaker 1: people cover so I can't. I can't fight. It's two 853 00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:27,160 Speaker 1: of them. There's two of them. I can't. I can't 854 00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:31,399 Speaker 1: even Hans. I don't know, you know, next time, next 855 00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:34,280 Speaker 1: time it would be I just want to do imna 856 00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:36,799 Speaker 1: have one in studio so I can see you and 857 00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:40,799 Speaker 1: the other on the phone because I know I don't 858 00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:43,480 Speaker 1: can't kill. I know I cannot have on both of 859 00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:45,440 Speaker 1: y'all just do the same time. No, no, no, no no. 860 00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:49,160 Speaker 1: But before we go to break, Uh, I want to talk. 861 00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:51,919 Speaker 1: When y'all saw y'all did y'all did y'all did y'all 862 00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:55,080 Speaker 1: immediately post the social media? Did y'all do a little 863 00:50:55,160 --> 00:51:01,239 Speaker 1: fashion walk? And Target? What did y'all do? Um? When 864 00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:04,920 Speaker 1: we what did we do? But you know, yeah, before 865 00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:08,000 Speaker 1: we went into Target, we saw a picture that was 866 00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:13,640 Speaker 1: tweeted UM by someone and they tagged UM. They tagged 867 00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:16,040 Speaker 1: me and they were like, O m G. I can't believe. 868 00:51:16,040 --> 00:51:19,360 Speaker 1: I believe I've seen my girl key underlocket uh in 869 00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:22,040 Speaker 1: stars and I was like, oh gosh. So Kim was like, 870 00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:24,560 Speaker 1: we've got to make this announcement before the rest of 871 00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:27,160 Speaker 1: the you know, the world. He is it, because ain't 872 00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:33,400 Speaker 1: nobody else canna make our announcement now, Ryan in Memphis, 873 00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:36,799 Speaker 1: I know you've been waiting patiently. Thank you for holding on. 874 00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:41,520 Speaker 1: What is your question? Yes, sir, thank you for having 875 00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:45,080 Speaker 1: me on. I enjoy your show from play six year 876 00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:50,239 Speaker 1: old from Memphis. I'm very intrigued by the entrepreneurship that 877 00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:53,560 Speaker 1: comes on this show every week and try to apply 878 00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:55,759 Speaker 1: one thing I learned every week to my life. Light 879 00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:58,359 Speaker 1: did that one for sent better on? My question would 880 00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:03,160 Speaker 1: be at what to the business and owning your own business? 881 00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:08,239 Speaker 1: Is it okay to allow your family to help your 882 00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:12,839 Speaker 1: business grow? And when is it not okay when you're 883 00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:16,600 Speaker 1: in certain stages of the building process to tell your family, Hey, 884 00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:18,440 Speaker 1: I'm not at the point where I need you yet, 885 00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:24,040 Speaker 1: just hold on my safe. UM. You know that that 886 00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:25,880 Speaker 1: is a good question, but I think that it is 887 00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:30,839 Speaker 1: something that is based on your own goals that you have. UM. 888 00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:34,240 Speaker 1: You can do it as early as startup doing um 889 00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:39,360 Speaker 1: crowdfunding like getting people to so basically into your business 890 00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:41,680 Speaker 1: to help you to get your business off the ground. 891 00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:44,959 Speaker 1: Ke Andre and I actually we were funded by our mother, 892 00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:48,400 Speaker 1: so she gave us our startup money. She's also and 893 00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:52,560 Speaker 1: she's also a partner of our So this is totally 894 00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:55,360 Speaker 1: a family business. But it's just you to define the 895 00:52:55,560 --> 00:52:58,720 Speaker 1: lines and you know the boundaries of how those people 896 00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:02,120 Speaker 1: who do help your business. It's up to you did 897 00:53:02,120 --> 00:53:05,719 Speaker 1: define how that works and what part they'll play. Um, 898 00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:09,279 Speaker 1: is this the donation, is it a partnership? You know, 899 00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:10,799 Speaker 1: things like that, And you can do it like I 900 00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:13,239 Speaker 1: said it earlier, start up in the middle, if you're 901 00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:17,239 Speaker 1: needing more funding, excuse me, things like that. But it 902 00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:19,920 Speaker 1: just depends on how involved you want them. I would say, 903 00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:22,160 Speaker 1: to make sure that it is someone that, of course, 904 00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:25,000 Speaker 1: that you can trust in your family, because unfortunately not 905 00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:27,880 Speaker 1: all family members can be trusted. But someone that you 906 00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:32,799 Speaker 1: can trust and someone who understands paperwork is there to 907 00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:36,360 Speaker 1: keep seeing you know, balanced, to keep things on the 908 00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:39,400 Speaker 1: up and up, because not everybody understands that because you know, 909 00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:43,120 Speaker 1: of course, once you start growing people, you know, things 910 00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:46,040 Speaker 1: change sometimes for people in their minds. Um, and that 911 00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:53,640 Speaker 1: paperwork always keeps you so honest and um accountable your 912 00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:58,000 Speaker 1: question and answered it and and then some and I 913 00:53:58,080 --> 00:53:59,400 Speaker 1: know you're gonna get the rest of it out of 914 00:53:59,480 --> 00:54:02,160 Speaker 1: my appreciation. Well, Ryan, keep listening. And when I come 915 00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:04,359 Speaker 1: to Memphis, man, we gotta share each of that chicken man, 916 00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:06,960 Speaker 1: because Memphis and fried chicken and go hand in hand. Okay, 917 00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:11,319 Speaker 1: hey man, I got somewhere right now. Thank you, my 918 00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:14,440 Speaker 1: brother appreciate you. Sonya got Sonya on the line. How 919 00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:18,239 Speaker 1: are you doing? Signa Hey Rashan, how are you doing? 920 00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:21,080 Speaker 1: I'm doing fantastic. I want to show not by myself, 921 00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:24,120 Speaker 1: Kendra and Kim. They're only here talking about their fantastic 922 00:54:24,120 --> 00:54:27,600 Speaker 1: clothing line that's in taj or Target as it is 923 00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:30,200 Speaker 1: professionally stated Tarja is when you know, I think with 924 00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:32,719 Speaker 1: your boys and your girls, I just three, I'm going 925 00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:37,160 Speaker 1: down to you know, so what you have? What question 926 00:54:37,160 --> 00:54:40,640 Speaker 1: do you have to say? Sonya? As I was as 927 00:54:40,680 --> 00:54:42,440 Speaker 1: I was listening, and you guys said that you know 928 00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:45,879 Speaker 1: it's perfect time and reason season, you know, and how 929 00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:48,400 Speaker 1: to you know, went to go and went to you 930 00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:51,080 Speaker 1: know safe stop or pullback? How did you all know 931 00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:54,319 Speaker 1: there was time to even put your brand in Target? Like? 932 00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:58,120 Speaker 1: What what was that? Great question? Do you you know? What? 933 00:54:58,320 --> 00:55:01,480 Speaker 1: How how do how do I I started the business too, 934 00:55:01,480 --> 00:55:03,799 Speaker 1: and I'm like, how do I figure out when is 935 00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:06,120 Speaker 1: the right time to move in that way or not? 936 00:55:06,520 --> 00:55:11,720 Speaker 1: You know? Yeah? So actually we have um this answer 937 00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:14,640 Speaker 1: will be twofold because for Kendra and I for Jolie Noir. 938 00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:18,520 Speaker 1: Target approached us for Black History Months, um last year 939 00:55:18,920 --> 00:55:21,880 Speaker 1: for a partnership, So it's a limited partnership that was 940 00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:25,640 Speaker 1: for Black History Months, so that was obviously controlled by 941 00:55:25,760 --> 00:55:30,120 Speaker 1: Target and them. Can you know contacting us? But um, 942 00:55:30,160 --> 00:55:33,759 Speaker 1: as far as knowing when you're ready, I would say, 943 00:55:34,120 --> 00:55:39,040 Speaker 1: once you have continual sales on your own platform, then 944 00:55:39,080 --> 00:55:42,680 Speaker 1: that is a good key, good sign to know that 945 00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:45,640 Speaker 1: you're ready to start pitching your brand or your ideas 946 00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:49,560 Speaker 1: to other larger brands to partner with, because of course 947 00:55:49,600 --> 00:55:52,799 Speaker 1: they want to see can you make them money? That 948 00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:55,680 Speaker 1: is the name of the game. So um, if you 949 00:55:55,719 --> 00:55:58,560 Speaker 1: can make yourself money, if you garner yourself a following, 950 00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:04,360 Speaker 1: then they will be more apps to partner with. You 951 00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:08,920 Speaker 1: answer your question, you know a awesome now And I 952 00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:11,680 Speaker 1: know Kim was so calm with that. You know, talget 953 00:56:11,840 --> 00:56:15,319 Speaker 1: contacted us, you know they called us. You know, I'm 954 00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:17,239 Speaker 1: on with the Fleet March, I'm up with the fleet 955 00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:20,920 Speaker 1: market trying to say Chicken Pop Pye sandwiches and talking 956 00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:25,520 Speaker 1: contacted us. You know, you know, let's be on the 957 00:56:25,560 --> 00:56:27,960 Speaker 1: real first. You know, we but that but that's the 958 00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:31,520 Speaker 1: blessing of all these relationships is that you don't know 959 00:56:32,080 --> 00:56:35,000 Speaker 1: and uh and and follow up on Ryan's question, family, 960 00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:37,680 Speaker 1: see family, see I love what you were talking about 961 00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:41,759 Speaker 1: their family mom gave money, putting it in writing contract. 962 00:56:41,840 --> 00:56:44,239 Speaker 1: Let them know the responsibility of giving you this. But 963 00:56:44,480 --> 00:56:47,880 Speaker 1: guess what what am I gonna get? That's business? See family. 964 00:56:48,440 --> 00:56:52,320 Speaker 1: You gotta make sure it's always about business because sometimes family, 965 00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:54,840 Speaker 1: Can I borrow some money? Okay? Can you go to 966 00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:59,000 Speaker 1: the bank and ask that question? Okay, can you go 967 00:56:59,080 --> 00:57:02,200 Speaker 1: to your job and asked that question. No, when you're 968 00:57:02,200 --> 00:57:05,840 Speaker 1: coming to me, we're gonna have the same rules family, 969 00:57:06,080 --> 00:57:09,040 Speaker 1: the same rule. And that's where family get twisted. They 970 00:57:09,040 --> 00:57:11,120 Speaker 1: throw that, oh you know, you know you can play 971 00:57:11,120 --> 00:57:13,880 Speaker 1: me like that. Statements like that are not used on 972 00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:16,680 Speaker 1: any legal document. Play me like that that. It's not 973 00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:20,040 Speaker 1: written in any legal document I ever had in my life. 974 00:57:20,280 --> 00:57:24,640 Speaker 1: So you have to avoid those family terms. You know, love, 975 00:57:24,920 --> 00:57:27,479 Speaker 1: love is no document, don't you know. I've never signed 976 00:57:27,520 --> 00:57:29,720 Speaker 1: a legal contract that had love in it like that. 977 00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:33,440 Speaker 1: You know, so understand that the relationship have to be 978 00:57:33,520 --> 00:57:38,000 Speaker 1: bound by contractual thoughts. Bringing that lawyer, I'm tell you 979 00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:41,400 Speaker 1: the worst deal you can do is I think that's right. 980 00:57:41,440 --> 00:57:43,360 Speaker 1: I think that looks just that look good to you, 981 00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:46,120 Speaker 1: that they look good to you. Uh, and you sign 982 00:57:46,160 --> 00:57:48,360 Speaker 1: it and it's not good. It didn't look good at all. 983 00:57:48,440 --> 00:57:50,360 Speaker 1: You should have had a lawyer to tell you, because 984 00:57:50,360 --> 00:57:54,600 Speaker 1: a calma an and an or can make the difference 985 00:57:54,640 --> 00:57:57,840 Speaker 1: between whether you have a good contract or you have 986 00:57:57,880 --> 00:58:00,880 Speaker 1: a bad contract. That's how easy it can. And I 987 00:58:01,240 --> 00:58:04,160 Speaker 1: just tell you, Kim and Candrew. I remember when I 988 00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:07,120 Speaker 1: started my comedy club with my sister family. My family 989 00:58:07,160 --> 00:58:10,280 Speaker 1: loved me and I loved them too. And you know, 990 00:58:10,440 --> 00:58:14,080 Speaker 1: and when I started in a hotel, you know, we 991 00:58:14,200 --> 00:58:16,800 Speaker 1: started a hotel and I was calling the hip hop 992 00:58:16,840 --> 00:58:19,800 Speaker 1: comedy stop and they were working for free. They were 993 00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:22,360 Speaker 1: working for free. You know, Ah, we just want to 994 00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:24,040 Speaker 1: see you be successful. We just want to see you 995 00:58:24,080 --> 00:58:27,240 Speaker 1: be successful. As soon as I started making just a 996 00:58:27,280 --> 00:58:29,800 Speaker 1: live money, suddenly it was talking about where where I 997 00:58:29,880 --> 00:58:31,800 Speaker 1: was there. I thought you were helping her brother, I 998 00:58:31,840 --> 00:58:34,520 Speaker 1: thought you because I just see what I should have 999 00:58:34,560 --> 00:58:38,200 Speaker 1: done up front was put in my budget what they 1000 00:58:38,200 --> 00:58:40,640 Speaker 1: supposed to have gotten paid. That way, I wouldn't have 1001 00:58:40,680 --> 00:58:42,720 Speaker 1: been blindside. They did all the right thing. They had 1002 00:58:42,720 --> 00:58:46,320 Speaker 1: a right to ask me for money, but because I 1003 00:58:46,360 --> 00:58:49,800 Speaker 1: was going out there family. That's what he was asking around. 1004 00:58:50,120 --> 00:58:52,440 Speaker 1: When do you bring family? And whenever you bring family 1005 00:58:52,520 --> 00:58:55,400 Speaker 1: and do what they did, put it in writing and 1006 00:58:55,520 --> 00:58:59,440 Speaker 1: understand there's a responsible role you have to pay play 1007 00:58:59,560 --> 00:59:02,600 Speaker 1: when you dealing with money. And my night and my correct, ladies, 1008 00:59:04,320 --> 00:59:07,760 Speaker 1: you're absolutely correct. Thank you. One thing I wanted to 1009 00:59:07,760 --> 00:59:10,200 Speaker 1: say before we leave, and I want to congratulate your 1010 00:59:10,200 --> 00:59:13,080 Speaker 1: This interview was fantastic. And you know sometimes you know, 1011 00:59:13,120 --> 00:59:16,080 Speaker 1: I got a bet yesterday, I gotta be three o'clock today. 1012 00:59:16,080 --> 00:59:18,280 Speaker 1: I got up at four thirty and it's a long 1013 00:59:18,360 --> 00:59:20,400 Speaker 1: day for me. And when I come to the show, 1014 00:59:20,440 --> 00:59:23,960 Speaker 1: it's always like a passion and a moment of faith 1015 00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:26,160 Speaker 1: about why I do this and when I when I 1016 00:59:26,240 --> 00:59:28,080 Speaker 1: when I get to this point, I go, wow, this 1017 00:59:28,160 --> 00:59:31,200 Speaker 1: is why I do it. You fantastic, y'all. Both are 1018 00:59:31,240 --> 00:59:35,200 Speaker 1: just a joy and a blessing and it's called through 1019 00:59:35,440 --> 00:59:38,400 Speaker 1: people calling in you changing people's lives, not longer with 1020 00:59:38,440 --> 00:59:41,760 Speaker 1: your clothes, but also with your sensibility. Is your tone, 1021 00:59:42,240 --> 00:59:46,280 Speaker 1: your your motivation? But how does the design process? I 1022 00:59:46,320 --> 00:59:48,160 Speaker 1: think there's one question I want to get out before 1023 00:59:48,160 --> 00:59:51,600 Speaker 1: we wrap up. How does the design process work? Really? 1024 00:59:51,600 --> 00:59:53,800 Speaker 1: When it comes to men really and when it comes 1025 00:59:53,800 --> 00:59:56,960 Speaker 1: to women as we wrap up the show. Yeah, so 1026 00:59:57,440 --> 01:00:01,320 Speaker 1: we look at colors. We first start with is blackness, 1027 01:00:01,400 --> 01:00:03,560 Speaker 1: if you will, So things that will look good on 1028 01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:07,240 Speaker 1: dark brown or light or brown, whatever color, whatever shade 1029 01:00:07,280 --> 01:00:11,160 Speaker 1: was looked at almost color people, UM, and so we 1030 01:00:11,200 --> 01:00:13,600 Speaker 1: start they're looking at colors, and then we kind of 1031 01:00:13,600 --> 01:00:17,560 Speaker 1: look at what appeals to our customer base and what's 1032 01:00:17,600 --> 01:00:20,640 Speaker 1: going on out in the rest of the world for 1033 01:00:20,680 --> 01:00:24,120 Speaker 1: a fashion. So we combine all of those elements together. 1034 01:00:24,600 --> 01:00:28,880 Speaker 1: Keiander and I. We glean from nature, UM, artwork, UM, 1035 01:00:28,960 --> 01:00:33,240 Speaker 1: all kinds of things to create UM. And we just 1036 01:00:33,280 --> 01:00:37,480 Speaker 1: get inspired by so many different things, UM, by a 1037 01:00:37,560 --> 01:00:40,760 Speaker 1: phrase and like a trigger word might trigger a phrase 1038 01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:43,800 Speaker 1: or something like that for us, UM, you know, something 1039 01:00:43,840 --> 01:00:46,240 Speaker 1: that's pointing back to Jolignoir or something like that, just 1040 01:00:46,280 --> 01:00:50,000 Speaker 1: depends on what the phrase is UM. And then that 1041 01:00:50,200 --> 01:00:52,800 Speaker 1: is how we get our designs, each one of our 1042 01:00:52,880 --> 01:00:56,360 Speaker 1: individual designs. But that's usually how the process works. Keyandern I. 1043 01:00:56,520 --> 01:01:01,120 Speaker 1: For our illustrations, we do not draw them ourselves, but 1044 01:01:01,280 --> 01:01:06,320 Speaker 1: we do select all the hair, the eyes, the nails, 1045 01:01:06,520 --> 01:01:11,200 Speaker 1: everything that you see. You leave your sister no time 1046 01:01:11,240 --> 01:01:13,560 Speaker 1: I mean, Cam you leave your sister no time. You 1047 01:01:13,600 --> 01:01:16,120 Speaker 1: know time I gotta go. It's fox seconds left. I 1048 01:01:16,200 --> 01:01:18,560 Speaker 1: love y'all both, but that she talked too much. You 1049 01:01:18,680 --> 01:01:21,960 Speaker 1: talked too much. I see y'all next week. Go wanted 1050 01:01:22,000 --> 01:01:25,800 Speaker 1: making conversations to plan the locket systems? What talk too much? 1051 01:01:25,880 --> 01:01:30,280 Speaker 1: What I can saying? That's all I can say. You've 1052 01:01:30,280 --> 01:01:34,600 Speaker 1: been listening to Money Making Conversations master Class with Rushan McDonald. 1053 01:01:34,840 --> 01:01:39,040 Speaker 1: Always remember to lead with your gifts. Money Making Conversations 1054 01:01:39,120 --> 01:01:43,600 Speaker 1: Master Class is a presentation of thirty fifteen Media Incorporated. 1055 01:01:45,320 --> 01:01:48,800 Speaker 1: You are now tuned into the Money Making Conversations Minute 1056 01:01:48,800 --> 01:01:52,480 Speaker 1: of Inspiration with Rushan McDonald. Hi Rashan McDonald for Money 1057 01:01:52,520 --> 01:01:55,720 Speaker 1: Making Conversations with your daily minute of Inspiration. This week, 1058 01:01:55,760 --> 01:01:58,320 Speaker 1: I sat down with multi award winning gospel artis c 1059 01:01:58,520 --> 01:02:00,960 Speaker 1: c One. She's on the show to discuss her new 1060 01:02:01,040 --> 01:02:03,840 Speaker 1: live album, Bleed for It, and how she wants to 1061 01:02:03,840 --> 01:02:06,680 Speaker 1: continue to encourage people to move on with what's in 1062 01:02:06,720 --> 01:02:12,640 Speaker 1: their heart. I love the experience of life worship life concerts. 1063 01:02:13,080 --> 01:02:16,800 Speaker 1: We've toured for years and there's nothing like it, you know. 1064 01:02:17,000 --> 01:02:19,919 Speaker 1: But also I guess for me in the studio, when 1065 01:02:19,920 --> 01:02:22,240 Speaker 1: you do a recording in the studio, you're able to 1066 01:02:22,320 --> 01:02:25,800 Speaker 1: kind of listen to it, tweak it, fix this, make 1067 01:02:25,840 --> 01:02:28,680 Speaker 1: sure you know. So that's the value to me and 1068 01:02:28,720 --> 01:02:31,800 Speaker 1: doing in the studio. But I think we just got 1069 01:02:31,840 --> 01:02:34,880 Speaker 1: busy with life and never took out the time. But 1070 01:02:34,880 --> 01:02:39,000 Speaker 1: but this was the time. If you want to listen 1071 01:02:39,000 --> 01:02:41,760 Speaker 1: to this full interview with c C one's available on 1072 01:02:41,800 --> 01:02:43,960 Speaker 1: Money Making Conversations dot com.