1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:03,640 Speaker 1: Third hour of Clay and Buck kicks off now, and 2 00:00:04,280 --> 00:00:08,200 Speaker 1: we're going to dive into Law and Order, not the show, 3 00:00:08,560 --> 00:00:12,160 Speaker 1: although I have watched that show many times. And I 4 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:15,240 Speaker 1: will tell you, if you've ever woken up hungover in 5 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:22,160 Speaker 1: college on a rainy Sunday or Saturday in central Massachusetts 6 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:26,160 Speaker 1: and there's nothing to do going on, you can burn 7 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:28,480 Speaker 1: through like six or seven hours of Law and Order 8 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:30,840 Speaker 1: in a heartpeat. I learned that in college. I can 9 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 1: tell you that. But no, we're gonna talk about real 10 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 1: law and order, what's going on in the country right now. 11 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 1: And we've got a few things came out that I have. 12 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:42,160 Speaker 1: The big news today was Matt Gates out as Attorney General, 13 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:49,200 Speaker 1: withdrawing his nomination by Trump. Still I don't really understand 14 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:53,519 Speaker 1: the advantage of this. Perhaps it really just was too 15 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 1: much heat. I mean, the advantage of putting him forward 16 00:00:56,600 --> 00:01:00,880 Speaker 1: so that now they have everybody coming forward to say, okay, well, 17 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:04,760 Speaker 1: let's let's let him have process. Let's see, you know, 18 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:07,959 Speaker 1: hold on a second, let's not let smears, let's not 19 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 1: let innuendo take him down. And now they go, okay, well, 20 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:15,480 Speaker 1: I guess I mean, did innuendo these take his nomination? 21 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:15,759 Speaker 2: Down. 22 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 1: It feels like a little bit of whiplash on that. 23 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:22,119 Speaker 1: Let's be honest. Okay, unless unless this was the plan 24 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 1: all along. They knew this was going to happen, and 25 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:28,840 Speaker 1: they have other things in mind for Gates and perhaps 26 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:32,120 Speaker 1: others as well as to how the pieces move on 27 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 1: the chessboard. Here, we'll see, maybe we can get Actually, 28 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 1: I don't think is he technically still in Congress? He resigned, right, 29 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 1: so I guess he's technically not in Congress anymore. I 30 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 1: think I don't know. It's all happening very fast, very crazy. 31 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:47,120 Speaker 1: Guys check me on that. I think he's resigned, like 32 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 1: that actually happened. So if he's resigned, he's yeah, so 33 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 1: he's just Matt Gates. I don't know. Maybe Matt will 34 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 1: want to call and tell us what's going on here, 35 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 1: what happened? I don't know. But he's out. Now. We're 36 00:01:56,440 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 1: going to figure out who the next Attorney General of 37 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 1: the United States is to be, and there will be 38 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 1: a lot of names I'm sure are getting floating around, 39 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 1: certainly today tomorrow. This is a critical piece. I don't know. 40 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 1: I mean, maybe there is. There's the advice and consent 41 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 1: the Senate can give. And then there's the advising consent 42 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 1: role that those of us with a platform and with 43 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 1: thank you very much large audiences like the one that 44 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:28,800 Speaker 1: you provide for this show, that we can weigh in 45 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:32,079 Speaker 1: on this too and perhaps offer some helpful guidance. The 46 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:34,919 Speaker 1: administration that I know has a number of people who 47 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:38,640 Speaker 1: listen to the show, so or the the would be administration, 48 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 1: the incoming administration. And with that, I'll just say, we'll 49 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:45,360 Speaker 1: continue to follow this and look at where it goes 50 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 1: with the ag side of things. I don't have a 51 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:51,080 Speaker 1: I don't have a read on who the top person 52 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:53,679 Speaker 1: is right now in the discussions. I'll try to find 53 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 1: out later today. I do think that this is one 54 00:02:56,320 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 1: of the most important roles that they can fill. You 55 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:03,800 Speaker 1: need somebody who is going to not only hold those 56 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 1: accountable who abuse their power inside of the DOJ, but 57 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 1: you need to reform the culture of the place so 58 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:15,639 Speaker 1: that there is an understanding that the use of the 59 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 1: law as a weapon is a grotesque violation of ethics 60 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 1: and dangerous to the country, and that just because you 61 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 1: don't like somebody from another party doesn't mean that you 62 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 1: can use the powers given to you as a prosecutor 63 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:34,240 Speaker 1: as an investigator, whatever it may be to tear somebody down. 64 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 1: You know, the power to prosecute is the power to destroy. 65 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 1: Doesn't even mean you have to convict. Remember that they 66 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 1: use the weapon against Donald Trump. Just coming up short 67 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 1: on conviction on the federal side doesn't mean that it 68 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 1: wasn't in some way successful. Right. The power to prosecute 69 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 1: is the power to destroy, and the process is the punishment. 70 00:03:57,680 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 1: Once again, important maxims to keep in as you're looking 71 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 1: at the reform of the bureaucracy and how this can 72 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 1: be tackled and how things need to change, So you 73 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 1: have to have somebody in there who understands the system. 74 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 1: I do think they need to have the respect and 75 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 1: support of some of the good people who are in 76 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 1: these institutions. I mean, I know, I say this, and 77 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 1: I got a little a little frustrated. I think there's 78 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 1: there's too much cynicism about this on the right these days. 79 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:30,559 Speaker 1: There are some very good people in these agencies, lots 80 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:33,360 Speaker 1: of them. Actually, there are very good people who work 81 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 1: at the FBI, many of them listen to this show. 82 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:38,279 Speaker 1: There are very good people who work at the DOJ. 83 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 1: I have friends who are federal prosecutors and you know, 84 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:43,840 Speaker 1: very good people. They exist, they're out there, they're doing 85 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 1: those jobs. But the power structure within these entities, the 86 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:54,360 Speaker 1: culture that has become more pervasive of the one party 87 00:04:54,480 --> 00:05:01,480 Speaker 1: state through the bureaucracy, right, the Democrat machine, through the apparatus, 88 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 1: that is troubling and that has to be routed out. 89 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 1: Stem and branch is that, right, Stem and branch is that. 90 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 1: That's the phrase, right. So that's how I see it, 91 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:14,359 Speaker 1: and that's why the AG role is so important. I 92 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:18,479 Speaker 1: also think the DHS role is very important. Is christinoum 93 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:22,839 Speaker 1: up for this? I hope so? Not a border state, 94 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:28,040 Speaker 1: not really a background in managing a large organization. I say, 95 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 1: governor of South Dakota. That's a South Dkota is a 96 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:35,920 Speaker 1: great and proud state. It's a much smaller government apparatus 97 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:38,839 Speaker 1: than you'd be dealing with in a lot of other places. 98 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:42,840 Speaker 1: I wish her all of the success possible with this. 99 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:49,840 Speaker 1: Tom Homan is excellent as borders are, and I think 100 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 1: he recognizes that this is going to be a massive 101 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 1: fight within the system itself. That's going to require people 102 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 1: who will will keep moving forward despite the pressure campaign 103 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:07,800 Speaker 1: against them. They're going to throw everything they have at 104 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 1: this because, for one thing, can you imagine for a moment, 105 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 1: if the Trump administration is successful in just following through 106 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 1: on the standing deportation orders of one point for million people, 107 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 1: many of whom are criminals. They've been adjudicated and they 108 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 1: should leave. They're supposed to be expelled from the country. 109 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 1: If Trump is successful in that, doesn't it show that 110 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:42,840 Speaker 1: the Democrats were in essence colluding with the open border 111 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:48,599 Speaker 1: all along, or providing the wide open border for our 112 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:52,159 Speaker 1: sovereignty to be violated all this time. It was a 113 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 1: decision that they made right because if you could make 114 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:57,680 Speaker 1: the decision to enforce the law and change it, then 115 00:06:57,760 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 1: the fact that it got as bad as it did 116 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:03,039 Speaker 1: Underby is further proof. I don't know that we need more, 117 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 1: but it is further proof proof that they actively subverted 118 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 1: US sovereignty and decided that the border should be open. 119 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 1: And another place you're going to see this is on 120 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 1: the state and local conflict, on the state and local 121 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, federal versus state and local, federal versus state 122 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 1: and local, on the issue of deportations. Tom Holman was 123 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 1: speaking about this, the sanctuary jurisdictions issue. This has cut 124 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 1: eleven He's saying that this is not going to go 125 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 1: without consequences. You cannot use your own little local police 126 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 1: force in Boston or LA or whatever to step in 127 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 1: the way a federal law enforcement play it. 128 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:46,840 Speaker 3: They don't have to help us, but they need to 129 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 3: get the hell out of the wake or we're coming. 130 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 3: We're going to do it, which means have I got 131 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 3: to send twice as many resources that sanks worst city 132 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 3: twice many agents. That's exactly what I'm going to do. 133 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 3: And I've been saying for the last several days that 134 00:07:57,040 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 3: they need to study the law. They cannot help, but 135 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 3: don't impede us and don't cross certain lines. There's a 136 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 3: statue under Title late and I States Cold thirteen twenty 137 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 3: four that talks about harboring and concealing and illegal alien 138 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:13,280 Speaker 3: knowingly harboring and concealing and illegal anithem ice. They need 139 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:15,559 Speaker 3: to read that statue and become familiar with it. Because 140 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 3: of the cross sideline, there will be consequences. So look, 141 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 3: we're prepared to take action, but I hope they come 142 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 3: to the table and realize we are prioritizing the worst. 143 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 1: The worst. First, think about how much the country has 144 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 1: changed in the last thirty years on this issue in 145 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:37,719 Speaker 1: the even I think as late as the early two thousands. 146 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 1: One of the primary reasons in recent years for cabinet 147 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 1: nominees to be withdrawn before a Senate vote. Things happened 148 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:50,440 Speaker 1: the Bush administration, if things happened the Clinton administration, is 149 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 1: that they had that the nominee had employed a you know, 150 00:08:56,840 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 1: a household employee and ah, a maid, a nanny, whatever, 151 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:06,200 Speaker 1: who was an illegal. It used to be considered such 152 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:10,319 Speaker 1: an affront to the rule of law to pay somebody 153 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 1: in cash to you know, trim the hedges or you know, 154 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 1: help empty out the dishwasher or whatever. Did that kept 155 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 1: you from becoming a member of the United States Cabinet? 156 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:22,960 Speaker 1: Now this just you go back, you find some of 157 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 1: these cases. Team pull some of these from me, will you, 158 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:27,360 Speaker 1: because I can't remember the names. But there are different nominees. Yep, sorry, 159 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:30,200 Speaker 1: you had an you had an illegal who was you know, 160 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:33,720 Speaker 1: mowing your lawn for a few years. Uh, can't, can't 161 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 1: be you know, commerce secretary or something like that. And 162 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 1: now you have mayors who are proudly standing up saying, 163 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 1: you know, we will use every resource at our disposal 164 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 1: to make sure that illegals can't be deported. Huh, Like, 165 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:51,959 Speaker 1: what does that mean? I think it's worth asking that 166 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:55,679 Speaker 1: what does that mean? Because, as Tom Holman just said, 167 00:09:55,679 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 1: here there are statutes about harboring their statutes about averting 168 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 1: the rule of law when it comes to illegals, that 169 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:08,439 Speaker 1: are still laws. Right, this is still I understand that 170 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 1: we've all gotten so used to the law. Isn't the 171 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:15,679 Speaker 1: law when it comes to sovereignty and illegal migration illegal aliens? 172 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:20,080 Speaker 1: Remember that term illegal aliens. Law isn't the law, but 173 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:23,440 Speaker 1: it actually is the same law that allows them to 174 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 1: harass some of us endlessly for taxes that we don't owe, 175 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 1: but they're trying to prove that we owe. For example, 176 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 1: Sure you've been through that one before. Those same laws 177 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 1: that allow them to harass you with all that and 178 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:38,200 Speaker 1: a million other things are the laws that say you 179 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 1: cannot harbor illegal immigrants, You cannot aid in a bet 180 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 1: illegal immigrants, right actively, Well, what are law enforcement? What's 181 00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:50,560 Speaker 1: law enforcement doing when they're holding somebody into detention and 182 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:54,720 Speaker 1: making sure that they get out of detention expeditiously so 183 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:58,959 Speaker 1: that they are not able to be captured by ice? 184 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:04,200 Speaker 1: Oh how about this one? In some places This is real. 185 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 1: Prosecutors will choose to charge a lesser crime against an 186 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:15,440 Speaker 1: illegal alien because they know that if they charge the 187 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:19,200 Speaker 1: actual crime they committed. This is absolutely true in California. 188 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 1: It's absolutely true in New York. If they charge the 189 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 1: actual crime they committed, it would trigger an ICE alert, 190 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 1: and that this is the person. You know, you commit 191 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:31,599 Speaker 1: a serious crime, a serious violent felony, you're supposed to 192 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:36,480 Speaker 1: be deported, So they'll the prosecutors will actively go below 193 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 1: what the crime is to make sure that that criminal 194 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:43,080 Speaker 1: gets to stay in this country. Can't you see why 195 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 1: everyone who is paying attention is so deeply distraught over 196 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:51,560 Speaker 1: Lake and Riley? Can't you see how it all ties together? 197 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:58,839 Speaker 1: The system is intentionally failing us, the system is intentionally 198 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 1: being abused, and Trump is promising that this is something 199 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:05,080 Speaker 1: he will change. Now, I'm going to tell you I'm 200 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 1: going to be very I'm going to be very hardcore 201 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:10,080 Speaker 1: on this issue. I do not want to hear this 202 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 1: is it? 203 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:10,600 Speaker 2: Right? 204 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 1: We got Trump for four more years, and really we've 205 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 1: got him for We've got eighteen months before it's all 206 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:18,480 Speaker 1: gonna be midterms, and who's the Democrat nominee? And Trump's 207 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:20,960 Speaker 1: a lame duck eighteen months to change the country, eighteen 208 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 1: months to save America. Really, the world without America, what 209 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:27,720 Speaker 1: is the world. What happens? It's not good, It's not good. 210 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 1: He has to follow through on this issue. He has 211 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:34,319 Speaker 1: to have the right team in place, and we have 212 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 1: to demand accountability for this mission as soon as it 213 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 1: hasn't started yet. I get it, the administration's not there, 214 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:43,000 Speaker 1: but we have to watch this one. There cannot be 215 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 1: any Oh, but you know, it's so hard. It's a challenge, 216 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:49,720 Speaker 1: and I truly believe, and I've spoken to senior Trump 217 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 1: people about this. They understand how important it is that 218 00:12:54,840 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 1: there is a reckoning, a reset of law and order 219 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:04,560 Speaker 1: on this issue, specifically that we say enough is enough, 220 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:07,200 Speaker 1: we cannot have this anymore. If we are a nation 221 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:11,080 Speaker 1: of laws, then that means all the laws and we 222 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 1: have a border that will be secure, it will be respected, 223 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:15,840 Speaker 1: and there will be consequences for those who do not 224 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 1: do it. This to me is absolutely urgent, critical mission. 225 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:24,160 Speaker 1: The Trump team says they're going to follow through on it, 226 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:26,840 Speaker 1: and I certainly hope they do. 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Remember, go to Clayandbuck 267 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:19,200 Speaker 1: dot com sign up to become a the ip I 268 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 1: almost did the Trump dance there a little bit. But 269 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 1: if you can watch on the video VIP, there you 270 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 1: go doing the Trump dance. A lot of suggestions coming 271 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:30,920 Speaker 1: in for you. Appreciate all of those. Also, you can 272 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:33,000 Speaker 1: send us a talkback on the iHeart app, just saying 273 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 1: if you want to send a little voice message and 274 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:39,280 Speaker 1: Doug first one up. The best Donald Trump pick would 275 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:44,200 Speaker 1: be Attorney General Jim Jordan. You know, we we like 276 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 1: Jim Jordan here on the show. Good guy, smart guy, patriot. 277 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:52,800 Speaker 1: I don't know if he wants the job. So that's 278 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 1: one thing that you know, you gotta want to do 279 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:58,520 Speaker 1: these jobs. You know, I'll be honest with you. People 280 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:01,520 Speaker 1: have asked me, They've said, you know, would you want 281 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:05,520 Speaker 1: any job in an administration? No? I love my job, honestly, 282 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 1: I love what I do. You got to have somebody 283 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:11,480 Speaker 1: who wants to do this stuff, who feels called, honestly 284 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 1: called to do it. So is Jim George. I don't 285 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 1: know if Jim wanted the job, could he do it? 286 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 1: Would he be good? Yes? But you gotta find somebody 287 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 1: that's willing to step in. Pam Bondi from Florida, that's 288 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 1: what Huey writes. Yeah, I think she's I'm already seeing, 289 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 1: you know, in the ether on the internet. Pam Bondi 290 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:38,400 Speaker 1: is a big name for AGE. Ben writes, how about 291 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:43,480 Speaker 1: Judge Janine. I've always liked Judge Janine. She's feisty, she's sharp, 292 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:47,080 Speaker 1: and she's feisty. I mean she'd yeah, I mean that 293 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 1: would be interesting for sure. She's got the legal background. 294 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:54,120 Speaker 1: Interesting choice, Steven, I nominate Professor Jonathan Turley. All right, well, Stephen, 295 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 1: let me jump in on this one. The AGE is 296 00:16:57,080 --> 00:17:01,320 Speaker 1: a manager as much as they are a a legal mind, right. 297 00:17:01,560 --> 00:17:05,119 Speaker 1: It's a person who is going to be overseeing a 298 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:08,359 Speaker 1: massive I think there are a hundred one hundred, one 299 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 1: hundred and twenty thousand people in the DOJ. Think about that. 300 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 1: It's a city of employee. It's like a whole city, 301 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 1: but just employees. You need somebody who is going to 302 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 1: go in there and to borrow in the immortal words 303 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 1: of the Principal and the Breakfast Club. It's going to 304 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:27,480 Speaker 1: have to crack some skulls, you know. You need somebodyho's 305 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:30,760 Speaker 1: going to go in there and kick butt. Jonathan Turley 306 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 1: a very smart guy. I'm not even sure he's MAGA, 307 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:34,680 Speaker 1: by the way, but he's a smart guy. He's a 308 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:37,520 Speaker 1: conser scholar. But I don't think he's going to strike 309 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:39,960 Speaker 1: fear into the hearts of the deep state. No disrespect 310 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:41,440 Speaker 1: to him, I just don't. I don't see that as 311 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 1: his thing. Christopher Wrights Greg Abbott would be a good 312 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 1: attorney general. I think Greg Abbott likes being governor of 313 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:50,560 Speaker 1: Texas though, so I guess see. 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How are we feeling about how 341 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:13,480 Speaker 1: it's all shaken shaking together, coming together, shaking up, shaking together, 342 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 1: coming up whatever on the Trump cabinet and all these 343 00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:19,439 Speaker 1: different picks and on all the stuff that we are 344 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 1: seeing right now. I think it is certainly worth a 345 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:25,480 Speaker 1: conversation among all of us about what should be some 346 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:28,480 Speaker 1: of the next moves. I still really like cash Betel 347 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:31,760 Speaker 1: for FBI. I know it's Trump's call. Currently, Christopher rais 348 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:34,240 Speaker 1: the FBI director. It's believed he would resign before Trump 349 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:37,280 Speaker 1: would come into office. I don't know if that will happen. 350 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:41,359 Speaker 1: Things are going to be changing here quite clearly so, 351 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:44,480 Speaker 1: and the Matt gets step down has got a lot 352 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:49,399 Speaker 1: of people thinking, Okay, well, why we were all sitting 353 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:50,960 Speaker 1: here saying well, we were all but a lot of 354 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 1: people were sitting here saying, well, he deserves process and 355 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 1: he should have his say before the Senate. And if 356 00:19:56,560 --> 00:19:58,359 Speaker 1: Trump thinks this is the guy, let's hear what he 357 00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:02,560 Speaker 1: has to say. And now he's out. Okay, I'm not 358 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:06,000 Speaker 1: saying it's the first time, but it's uh, I don't know, 359 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:09,840 Speaker 1: it doesn't Something doesn't smell right unless this was the 360 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 1: plan all along. And it's just here's what I can say, 361 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:23,399 Speaker 1: pretty for the who who, for the consensus about DC matters. However, 362 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:27,200 Speaker 1: you wanted to find that any nominee for any senior 363 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 1: level government position under the Trump administration is going to 364 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:37,840 Speaker 1: be less controversial than that Gates. That is the truth anybody. 365 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:41,199 Speaker 1: I mean, that's like realistically, in play, you will not 366 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:45,880 Speaker 1: find somebody who is gonna get libs I think more 367 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:48,919 Speaker 1: upset the RFK Junior thing. I thought Bill O'Reilly was 368 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:51,919 Speaker 1: very interesting on this at just saying you know that 369 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:55,199 Speaker 1: he he does you know Bill, Bill was you know, 370 00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 1: not not in the pro RFK junior running the show 371 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:01,679 Speaker 1: camp over at ah HHS doesn't think he's gonna get 372 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:04,159 Speaker 1: through the Senate either, which is interesting. He said, I 373 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 1: think he did. Guys, did he say the word opportunist 374 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 1: or am I is that somebody else on our cutsheet 375 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:11,240 Speaker 1: that said it. I don't want to misquote Bill. I 376 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:14,199 Speaker 1: think he felt like he was being opportunistic RFK Junior. 377 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 1: I think that's what he said. A lot of words 378 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:19,960 Speaker 1: here on the show, so I can't always remember absolutely everything. 379 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 1: And then Pete Heggsath who's been a friend of mine, 380 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 1: Look this stuff that's coming out again, there's a lot 381 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:28,560 Speaker 1: of heat. And there's the part of us that all 382 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:32,119 Speaker 1: wants to say, well, they shouldn't be able to you know, 383 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:33,679 Speaker 1: now you get caught in this game of should they 384 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:41,479 Speaker 1: be able to submarine torpedo? All torpedoes I guess come 385 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:44,199 Speaker 1: from No. Actually, submarines aren't the only things that have torpedoes, right, 386 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:48,200 Speaker 1: Ships can have torpedoes. I think anyway, torpedo a nomination 387 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:54,800 Speaker 1: to torpedo a nomination based on an allegation, right, not 388 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:58,680 Speaker 1: on an adjudicated fact, based on an allegation. You got 389 00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:01,000 Speaker 1: understand A lot of us are very uncomfortable with that 390 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:04,320 Speaker 1: because of what we saw with Kavanaugh, where it was 391 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:09,200 Speaker 1: non adjudicated and nonsensical. The allegations against Kavanaugh were both 392 00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 1: non adjudicated and nonsensical, absurd, all of them. Okay, I 393 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:16,040 Speaker 1: heard it all out. I saw I heard all the 394 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:18,200 Speaker 1: evidence and the testimony. I never though there was no evidence. 395 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:19,679 Speaker 1: There was just some crazy lady who was trying to 396 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:21,480 Speaker 1: be a hero of the left, and then a couple 397 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 1: of other crazy ladies too, which they always try to 398 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 1: leave those ones out. Yeah, isn't that interesting? Yeah? Bill? Yeah, 399 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:32,160 Speaker 1: Bill said, I'm a team again. I never want to misquote. 400 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:33,920 Speaker 1: I guess that we have. Bill said that RFK Junior 401 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:37,880 Speaker 1: seems like an opportunist to him. I mean, that's uh, 402 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:41,639 Speaker 1: you know, I'm just say it. You know, not everyone 403 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:45,040 Speaker 1: sold on RFK Junior. And you know, I'm not going 404 00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:51,199 Speaker 1: to walk back from my uh my trepidation there, my 405 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:54,600 Speaker 1: concerns about I agree with him on a lot of 406 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:56,560 Speaker 1: the food stuff yeah, but is he the guy to 407 00:22:56,640 --> 00:23:01,640 Speaker 1: run AJHS. I think it's worth looking at this. And 408 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:03,639 Speaker 1: you know how you're starting to look at some of 409 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:06,600 Speaker 1: these picks and you're wondering what really is the method 410 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:09,280 Speaker 1: to the madness if it is madness in the first place. 411 00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:14,040 Speaker 1: And yeah, it's all going to be very interesting, my friends. 412 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:17,920 Speaker 1: As this continues, we shall have to follow it closely. 413 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:20,880 Speaker 1: We shall have to look at where the president elect 414 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 1: takes all of this. And I don't think we want 415 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:27,320 Speaker 1: to have unnecessary own goals. Here we go. We got 416 00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:32,520 Speaker 1: a talkback here from San Antonio listener Luis. He's saying, 417 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:35,359 Speaker 1: Ken Paxton for a g this is d D play it. 418 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:39,160 Speaker 1: Attorney General Ken Paxton. 419 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:43,760 Speaker 5: He's got a long track record of fighting the government 420 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 5: and secure in the Texas borders. Ken Paxson, outstanding pick. 421 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:52,240 Speaker 1: Ken Paxon will make a lot of sense to me. 422 00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:56,439 Speaker 1: Attorney General of Texas clearly qualified. He's already attorney general 423 00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 1: of the second largest state. So you know, you could 424 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:03,360 Speaker 1: see how that it's not a difficult leap to think 425 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 1: that he would be in that he would be a 426 00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:07,639 Speaker 1: good choice for that role. I think he's certainly aligned 427 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:10,119 Speaker 1: with the Trump agenda when it comes to the cleaning 428 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:14,440 Speaker 1: up the border issue and securing the border. Let's take 429 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 1: some calls here too, Uh Duff from Virginia. Duff, what 430 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:25,280 Speaker 1: have you got for us? Yes, sir Cash Battel, what 431 00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:25,719 Speaker 1: about him? 432 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:30,480 Speaker 5: Hotel for Attorney Cash battal for Attorney General Dan Bongino 433 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:34,320 Speaker 5: to head the FBI and Tiger Service on home land 434 00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:41,200 Speaker 5: security and give Tulsi all the intelligence apparatus. Cash doesn't 435 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:41,960 Speaker 5: have anything on him. 436 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 1: Cash, Uh, you know, And I always thank you for 437 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:47,320 Speaker 1: the call. I always like to tell you this. I 438 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:50,359 Speaker 1: consider Cash a friend. He's a good man. UH known 439 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:53,480 Speaker 1: him for years. I like Cash. I think he'd be great. 440 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:56,280 Speaker 1: I've said it before. I've said again. I'm not impartial, 441 00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:58,879 Speaker 1: because you know I I know Cash a bit, so 442 00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:01,720 Speaker 1: there's that. But I really do as objective as I 443 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:02,920 Speaker 1: can be. I think that he'd be great in the 444 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:04,359 Speaker 1: role at FBI. And I'm not the A lot of 445 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 1: people are saying that, a lot of people who I 446 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:09,879 Speaker 1: think have very informed opinions on this and on the 447 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:11,880 Speaker 1: kind of platform where they can get the word out there. 448 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:16,119 Speaker 1: Dan Bongino is a is a great guy, a patriot 449 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:19,640 Speaker 1: work at secret service. I think he'd be phenomenal people 450 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:21,360 Speaker 1: are I don't know if he's even considering the job. 451 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:24,040 Speaker 1: I think he'd be phenomenal in the job, uh and 452 00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:26,800 Speaker 1: would do great service to the country. And uh, you 453 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 1: don't have to worry about anybody backing him into a corner. 454 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:34,040 Speaker 1: He would he would get it done. And then who 455 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:36,560 Speaker 1: is the third the third name, Oh, Tulsi Gabbart. You 456 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:38,760 Speaker 1: guys know, I like I like Tulsi. I think she's 457 00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:44,280 Speaker 1: very I think she's a fundamentally good person. Uh, to 458 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:46,239 Speaker 1: the degree that you can assess that based on your 459 00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 1: kind of public interactions with somebody. But I think that 460 00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:51,000 Speaker 1: I think her heart's in the right place. I don't 461 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 1: I don't mean that in a condescending way. I really 462 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:54,560 Speaker 1: mean that. I think that she has a love of 463 00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:56,960 Speaker 1: the country. I think she's seen what's become of the 464 00:25:56,960 --> 00:26:00,280 Speaker 1: Democrat Party. I think that her conversion to the right 465 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:05,360 Speaker 1: is real. I don't think it's opportunism. I can tell 466 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:12,760 Speaker 1: you that the intelligence agencies are far more wiley, cunning, 467 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:20,120 Speaker 1: good at just just sort of smothering you with you know, 468 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:24,720 Speaker 1: the bureaucratic, slow moving everything has to be signed off 469 00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:28,359 Speaker 1: in a million ways. It's she's taken on quite a 470 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:32,520 Speaker 1: beast with that and does not have any background in it. 471 00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:34,560 Speaker 1: Does not have a background, and that's fair to say, Yes, 472 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:36,320 Speaker 1: she has a background the military. Let me tell you 473 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:39,520 Speaker 1: anybody who's worked in the CIA or the intelligence community, 474 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:42,840 Speaker 1: they'll say, yeah, that's the military. The intelligence community is 475 00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:46,960 Speaker 1: a whole, its own ball of axe, its own thing, 476 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:52,800 Speaker 1: and I think that's yeah, that's going to be a 477 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:55,600 Speaker 1: challenge for her. So again, I hope she rises to 478 00:26:55,680 --> 00:27:00,520 Speaker 1: that challenge and I have faith that she will, but 479 00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:03,399 Speaker 1: it's not going to be easy at all. Look, I 480 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 1: think Elon Musk is one of the most impressive people, certainly, 481 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:11,119 Speaker 1: I think probably the most impressive person in corporate America 482 00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:14,960 Speaker 1: who exists right. What he has done with his companies 483 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:19,480 Speaker 1: is absolutely incredible and in the truest sense of that 484 00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:23,320 Speaker 1: word hard to believe. The accomplishments that he has had 485 00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:27,560 Speaker 1: with SpaceX, with Tesla, I mean, the boring company, buying Twitter, 486 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:30,080 Speaker 1: turning into X. I mean there's the things he has 487 00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:35,160 Speaker 1: done are remarkable and changing, not just America, but really 488 00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:38,360 Speaker 1: changing I think the future destiny of the human species, 489 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:42,640 Speaker 1: at least when we're talking about being multiplanetary, and when 490 00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:45,880 Speaker 1: he talks about that, notice No one's laughing. He's very 491 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:48,400 Speaker 1: serious because it is serious because he's going to get 492 00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:50,480 Speaker 1: us to Mars. I mean, that's the mission, right, That's 493 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:55,959 Speaker 1: what's even Elon Musk, I worry about his ability to 494 00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:59,359 Speaker 1: tame the federal apparatus right now. But it's you know, 495 00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:02,399 Speaker 1: it's like the dragon that's terrorizing the villagers. You know, 496 00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:06,240 Speaker 1: we're we're sending with Elon. You know, you're sending your 497 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:08,199 Speaker 1: best night. You know, I'm a big fan of like 498 00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:13,119 Speaker 1: old tales from a you know, King Arthur and the 499 00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:15,199 Speaker 1: legends and all that. Uh, you know, you're sending your 500 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:17,639 Speaker 1: best night to go to go slay the dragon. And 501 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:21,000 Speaker 1: the dragon in this case is a massive, bloated federal bureaucracy. 502 00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:24,560 Speaker 1: But according to dragon breathed some fire and got some 503 00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:26,680 Speaker 1: big teeth. It's not going to be easy at all, 504 00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:31,240 Speaker 1: even for Elon and for Vivek, who you know is 505 00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:36,840 Speaker 1: very good at speaking about things, and I am very 506 00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:39,600 Speaker 1: hopeful that he will be able to do uh good 507 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:42,280 Speaker 1: work there and and and take it take it down, right. 508 00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:46,640 Speaker 1: But they're taking on a massive project, a massive project 509 00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:49,520 Speaker 1: that is not going to be easy in the least. 510 00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:52,880 Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm I'm just trying to be honest with 511 00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:56,040 Speaker 1: you guys, because I'm already seeing some of these uh, 512 00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:59,960 Speaker 1: some of these challenges come together in ways where you know, 513 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,360 Speaker 1: we're very enthusiastic. There was that kind of high of 514 00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:04,640 Speaker 1: the Trump win and now it's okay, Well, what's this 515 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:07,080 Speaker 1: really going to get into? Is Jay from Ohio still 516 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:07,320 Speaker 1: with us? 517 00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:07,480 Speaker 5: Guys? 518 00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:11,600 Speaker 1: I want to take this call Jay in Dayton, Ohio. 519 00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:12,920 Speaker 1: J what have you got for us? 520 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:17,000 Speaker 2: Hey? Megadetto's for our lost friend Rush been listening for 521 00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:20,000 Speaker 2: a long long time. Hey, I think the I want 522 00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:23,880 Speaker 2: to talk FBI. But in context of what you've been discussing, 523 00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:27,200 Speaker 2: as you know, if Trump keeps putting heads of departments 524 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:30,280 Speaker 2: in place, like you know, Vince McMahon's wife is now 525 00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:33,800 Speaker 2: running the Department of Education, do you think Musk and 526 00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:37,000 Speaker 2: vi Vic can go after that now and say why 527 00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:39,680 Speaker 2: is it? Why should it exist? Same thing with FBI, 528 00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:43,960 Speaker 2: thirty five thousand employees stood up by a tyrant back 529 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:46,480 Speaker 2: in the thirties. It's only been around for about a 530 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:49,920 Speaker 2: third of our country's history. Why not we have state 531 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:52,800 Speaker 2: police in all fifty states. We have a chance here 532 00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:55,280 Speaker 2: of people. But if we appoint somebody to be the 533 00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:57,920 Speaker 2: head of the FBI. How is the doge you're going 534 00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:00,680 Speaker 2: to go after that? How is how is Elon and 535 00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:03,840 Speaker 2: Vivek going to go take those things out? So I 536 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:06,200 Speaker 2: think we're getting the car tohead the horse and better 537 00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:09,280 Speaker 2: figure out what agencies need to go away before we 538 00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:10,800 Speaker 2: start putting people in charge of them. 539 00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:14,880 Speaker 1: Well, there's interesting, interesting points here, So I'll give you 540 00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:18,000 Speaker 1: a few things. First of all, if we could, the 541 00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:23,880 Speaker 1: FBI is just one of many now federal agencies that 542 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:26,440 Speaker 1: have law enforcement authority as we know right and we've 543 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:31,400 Speaker 1: got a whole law enforcement agency for alcohol, tobacco, firearms, 544 00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:35,120 Speaker 1: and explosives. Like wait, well isn't the FBI able to 545 00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:39,480 Speaker 1: enforce all those laws? What we've got a drug enforcement administration? 546 00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:43,600 Speaker 1: Well you can't the FBI. Notice how it just spirals 547 00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:46,760 Speaker 1: off into all these other entities as well. It's so 548 00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:52,920 Speaker 1: much bigger than just one failing bureaucracy. And I know 549 00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:54,880 Speaker 1: a lot of you say I get this. I get 550 00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:57,240 Speaker 1: this from people where they'll write in well why aren't 551 00:30:57,280 --> 00:31:01,360 Speaker 1: there more whistleblowers? I was alone level guy at the CIA. 552 00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:04,720 Speaker 1: I was working on al Qaeda. My day to day 553 00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:07,120 Speaker 1: was just trying to figure out where's al Qaida. How 554 00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:08,720 Speaker 1: do we figure out where they are so we can 555 00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:12,680 Speaker 1: tell you know, special forces, we can tell you know 556 00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:16,320 Speaker 1: Tier one operators, we can speak to you know, we 557 00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:19,040 Speaker 1: can speak to Jaysack and you know whatever, find the 558 00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:20,720 Speaker 1: bad guys, right, the whole game you've all seen in 559 00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:22,760 Speaker 1: Zero Dark thirty trying to play find the bad guys. 560 00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:25,160 Speaker 1: I don't know what kind of games the director was playing. 561 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:28,080 Speaker 1: I had no access to that. So we say whistleblower. 562 00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:31,280 Speaker 1: Now you're talking about whistleblowers that would have to be 563 00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:37,200 Speaker 1: in that ring of connectivity to the top of the 564 00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:42,160 Speaker 1: entity that are doing the political stuff. Right. You know, 565 00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:45,040 Speaker 1: if you're at the FBI and you're going to weigh 566 00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:48,960 Speaker 1: in on the Komi Struck page, Russia collusion stuff, you'd 567 00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:51,520 Speaker 1: have to be most likely, you know, based in either 568 00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:54,000 Speaker 1: New York or the New York Officer DC office, depending. 569 00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:56,280 Speaker 1: You'd have to be senior enough that you knew, you 570 00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:58,400 Speaker 1: know what's going on, and then you have to be 571 00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:02,760 Speaker 1: willing to go up again the beast. And they have 572 00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:05,840 Speaker 1: a lot of the bureaucracy. Let me tell you, when 573 00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:11,120 Speaker 1: you speak out against the bureaucracy, it becomes nimble and vicious, 574 00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:15,320 Speaker 1: this big sort of lethargic, like, you know, it's all 575 00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:18,640 Speaker 1: the bureaucracy is like a grizzly bear that's about to 576 00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:23,320 Speaker 1: hibernate after gorging for months, right until somebody from within 577 00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:25,640 Speaker 1: says something and then all of a sudden, the claws 578 00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:28,480 Speaker 1: come out and this thing is a beast, and you're done. 579 00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:32,920 Speaker 1: So it's a question of how many people know, how 580 00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:36,560 Speaker 1: many people have access, how many people are willing to, 581 00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:40,479 Speaker 1: you know, risk their career, maybe even risk their freedom 582 00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:43,280 Speaker 1: depending So it's not as simple as, oh, there's one 583 00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:46,120 Speaker 1: hundred thousand people plus who work in the DJ why 584 00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:48,360 Speaker 1: haven't you know more of them? Because most of them 585 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:53,600 Speaker 1: are like dealing with you know, people who are you know, 586 00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:58,400 Speaker 1: working with drug cartels and committing you know, massive financial 587 00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:01,080 Speaker 1: frauds against people. And that's what the most of the 588 00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:02,640 Speaker 1: work is, a lot of it's drugs, a lot of 589 00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:07,440 Speaker 1: it's you know, financial stuff. And so anyway, I'll take 590 00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:09,320 Speaker 1: some more calls here. I think this is important stuff 591 00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:13,160 Speaker 1: and it's it's necessary to get the Trump administration is 592 00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:15,320 Speaker 1: squared away as it can be with all this in advance. 593 00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:19,320 Speaker 1: So eight hundred two two eight a two who should 594 00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:21,720 Speaker 1: be ag any other ideas about these picks and any 595 00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:24,440 Speaker 1: thoughts on why Gates dropped out. Now, I want to 596 00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:27,320 Speaker 1: speak to you about the Preborn Network of Clinics. Preborn 597 00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:30,160 Speaker 1: is doing incredible work day in and day out. This 598 00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:34,000 Speaker 1: is a nonprofit with a very straightforward mission saving the 599 00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:37,360 Speaker 1: lives of as many unborn babies as possible. 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Slash Buck 624 00:34:58,040 --> 00:34:59,520 Speaker 1: sponsored by Preborn. 625 00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:04,239 Speaker 4: Turkey Talk now found in the Clay and Buck podcast feed, 626 00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:07,719 Speaker 4: on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts. 627 00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:12,280 Speaker 1: Closing up shop today on Clay and Buck. Got Clay 628 00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:16,400 Speaker 1: back tomorrow and then I'm actually gonna be off next week. 629 00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:21,960 Speaker 1: So tomorrow will be my Thanksgiving previews show with you. 630 00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:26,160 Speaker 1: Clay will be in with you on Monday and Tuesday 631 00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:32,800 Speaker 1: and Wednesday, I think guys, is he on Wednesday? Monday, Monday, Tuesday, 632 00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:34,319 Speaker 1: and then we have a guest Oh great, we have 633 00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:37,239 Speaker 1: a guest host on Wednesday. Okay cool? So yeah, so 634 00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:39,839 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be off next week it's gonna be a 635 00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:44,480 Speaker 1: lot of fun seeing the fan eating copious amounts of 636 00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:48,040 Speaker 1: gluten free stuffing. And for those of you who are doubters, 637 00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:52,360 Speaker 1: perhaps even culinary haters, there might even be some pistachio 638 00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:55,160 Speaker 1: crem brulet involved. I will not be I will not 639 00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:59,760 Speaker 1: be deterred. No one's going to convince me that that delicious, weird, 640 00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:05,040 Speaker 1: green colored confection is not somehow, absolutely the most palatable 641 00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:08,600 Speaker 1: option when you're looking for something pistachio flavored in the 642 00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:11,520 Speaker 1: dessert realm. You know what I mean. It's as American 643 00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:14,560 Speaker 1: as apple pie, except it's French and sounds fancy. So 644 00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:18,000 Speaker 1: that's maybe what we'll be eating in the Sexton household. 645 00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:21,799 Speaker 1: Just kidding. Probably not gonna happen. Maybe I'll ask Carry 646 00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:24,239 Speaker 1: can make anything. She's amazing. That's the lot that she's like. 647 00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:26,759 Speaker 1: I happen to be. I have a wonderful wife who 648 00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:29,920 Speaker 1: is wonderful in all respects, but also really talented in 649 00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:32,279 Speaker 1: the kitchen. So I got that going for me, which 650 00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:34,759 Speaker 1: is nice. Send us more of your thoughts at the 651 00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:37,359 Speaker 1: VIP also the talkback. Remember to subscribe to the Clay 652 00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:40,799 Speaker 1: end Buck podcast feed and the Buck Brief is there, 653 00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:43,200 Speaker 1: so please check that out too. I'll do one here 654 00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:47,239 Speaker 1: after the show coming up and yeah man show flew 655 00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:50,520 Speaker 1: by today. Thanks for hanging for the old school folks. 656 00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:51,719 Speaker 1: Shields Hot