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Speaker 1: hosts Mickey Spagnola, Brian brought us, Taylor Stern and Rob Phillips.
Speaker 1: Hello everyone, and welcome to today's edition of Talking Cowboys.
Speaker 1: We are here in the SWBC Mortgage Studio with only
Speaker 1: a few days left Cowboys season opener against the Giants
Speaker 1: at AT and T Stadium. So today we have a
Speaker 1: great show for you guys, whether you're watching or listening.
Speaker 1: We're gonna get down to this game and break it down.
Speaker 1: But how's everyone doing today? Fantastic. We got football tonight
Speaker 1: and then not the best, it's the best and all.
Speaker 1: Like you said a couple of days till Cowboys Giants,
Speaker 1: you're gonna go out and watch it. No, watch on
Speaker 1: the couch, Mick. I'll be in the press box soon enough.
Speaker 1: All right. Yeah, are you telling us you're not you're
Speaker 1: not gonna make homemade pizza? Yeah? Absolutely, the couch. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm not a traditional thing. Somebody asked me if do
Speaker 1: you go out and you know, go to the bars
Speaker 1: and watch it? I go, No, I watch it, sit
Speaker 1: back and order some Papa John's that's right. There, you
Speaker 1: go a great time, and put is an exception for
Speaker 1: me because I'm gonna be flipping back and forth between
Speaker 1: the game and DCC making the team be. Oh, okay,
Speaker 1: we have my teammates will actually be on the show tonight.
Speaker 1: Mickey Spagnola Brian brought us making their appearance on DCC
Speaker 1: making the team. Mickey's a veteran at this, but this
Speaker 1: was new, this was media training. Yeah, and Brian and
Speaker 1: I were the professors. Wow, you know what I think
Speaker 1: is gonna be interesting? So we sat over here, Yeah,
Speaker 1: and the young lady sat over there. So we asked
Speaker 1: the very difficult questions that we always do. I'll tell
Speaker 1: you what was interesting. I think Mickey, just real quick,
Speaker 1: I don't want to go into this a whole lot,
Speaker 1: but hey, you're famous, I need to hear more. No,
Speaker 1: did do you think they're gonna they're gonna what part
Speaker 1: do you think they're gonna use the one where we
Speaker 1: were talking with Kelly and them afterwards or the actual interview,
Speaker 1: because we were pretty well, I'm gonna we tend to
Speaker 1: be pretty critical. I'm gonna think they used the parts
Speaker 1: with the ones that made the team. Sure, right, hopefully,
Speaker 1: because I mean it was all the rookies, Yes it was.
Speaker 1: They all had a couple of selected veterans. There are
Speaker 1: a couple of selected veterans. Yeah, there be bloopers at all.
Speaker 1: Do we know that? No? Think and I were first takers.
Speaker 1: Did you wear makeup at all? No? Okay? All natural?
Speaker 1: The gals? Did they look like they're very pretty? All right? Well,
Speaker 1: hopefully check it out to me. Let's say that side
Speaker 1: of the table during the interview absolutely a lot better
Speaker 1: than that side of the table does. Or I'll bet
Speaker 1: it absolutely. I'll bet it did. And they didn't both
Speaker 1: come with the same shirt side either, matching here. All right, guys.
Speaker 1: The Cowboys had their first practice for the New York
Speaker 1: Giants yesterday and on the Cowboys side of things, it
Speaker 1: was actually a knock on wood, pretty healthy day for them,
Speaker 1: you know, really, with the only limited guy being Jordan Lewis,
Speaker 1: and Garrett said today he expects him to do a
Speaker 1: little more, but I'm sorry fans don't get excited to
Speaker 1: see him this Sunday. Yeah right, Brian, Yeah, I think so, Tay.
Speaker 1: And you know, if you the only unhealthy person, I
Speaker 1: guess this would be if you want to say Anthony
Speaker 1: Hitching of course from fringe, but yeah, it was nice
Speaker 1: to have Jordan Lewis back on the field yesterday. And
Speaker 1: you know, we don't get a chance to watch him
Speaker 1: completely practice. My guess is that he was probably doing
Speaker 1: some stuff with a scout team, you know, and because
Speaker 1: he's just working back in and what we've learned about
Speaker 1: this team is they won't put these guys on the
Speaker 1: field if they're they have to be completely healthy, which
Speaker 1: we think he is and then be he's going to
Speaker 1: need more practices before he even thinks about playing at
Speaker 1: least a woozy A and Woods have practiced enough in
Speaker 1: training camp and played in the blue white practice that
Speaker 1: we had the other night to give you that ability
Speaker 1: to say, Okay, were we think they're ready to go
Speaker 1: play in this football game. I mean, he's got to
Speaker 1: be a couple of weeks away, right, I'm gonna say
Speaker 1: he's closer to I'm gonna say this week, and then
Speaker 1: let's see where he's at next week. So one padded
Speaker 1: practice and he's ready to go. Well, I'm thinking that
Speaker 1: the whole week. Yeah, they got about playing in pad. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but you know, if you think about him and his
Speaker 1: scout teamwork, and that's where I'm taking that angle right
Speaker 1: there with him. The scout teamwork he's getting. He's getting
Speaker 1: eight snaps a seven on seven, he's getting eight snaps
Speaker 1: of team period, he's getting eight snaps of blitz period,
Speaker 1: he's getting sixteen snaps of play action period. So you
Speaker 1: know he's easily I think he's practicing thirty forty plays.
Speaker 1: So if you put that together with three four days
Speaker 1: of work, then you know we'll see. I think it's
Speaker 1: it's way encouraging. It helps to have been Wickery here,
Speaker 1: Nickery Year, that's right. Apologize for butchering his name. He's there,
Speaker 1: as Brian said, he's you know, he's a bridge for
Speaker 1: these next couple weeks at least. Yes, still Lewis gets back.
Speaker 1: A couple other good positive items there, tay Keith Smith
Speaker 1: who was injured. They're starting fullback late in training camp,
Speaker 1: full participant, and I don't see Ryan Switzer on this
Speaker 1: injury report at all. So is that a sign he's
Speaker 1: good to go Sunday? You would think so. I think fans,
Speaker 1: you know, I saw a good tweet from somebody yesterday
Speaker 1: and we were talking about the breakout players from your
Speaker 1: poll and they said Ryan Switzer is my guy. So wow,
Speaker 1: maybe we'll see it in the first game, but he's
Speaker 1: got fifteen more after that to show him something that's right,
Speaker 1: show him something in the return game, and maybe a
Speaker 1: few snaps on offense. But I think it was good
Speaker 1: to see, you know, Tyrone Crawford back in practice, and
Speaker 1: that's as it lists them as full. By the way,
Speaker 1: it's not like he was limited after missing a month.
Speaker 1: And the other guy that they were kind of regulating
Speaker 1: was James Hannah and he was listed as full too,
Speaker 1: So that puts that tight end crew really together. But
Speaker 1: more importantly though, you talked about Crawford, Yeah, that's you
Speaker 1: know there there. Now. I don't know if Crawford is
Speaker 1: going to start, but if he's part of the rotation,
Speaker 1: you know, we've seen how they've played this. They've sweep
Speaker 1: seen with with Lawrence and then Benson Mayawat went while
Speaker 1: Crawford was out. Might be the way they go and
Speaker 1: then you know, rotate Crawford in as need is the conditioning,
Speaker 1: I know we always talk about that, you know, the
Speaker 1: first game. You know, I think both sides are going
Speaker 1: to have to figure out this conditioning. You know, because
Speaker 1: you're not really at least these starters haven't played in
Speaker 1: extensive work in preseason games, but they have practice, so
Speaker 1: that's what you gotta. We spoke to him in the
Speaker 1: locker room a couple days ago. He said he wasn't
Speaker 1: worried so much about conditioning. It was more rustiness getting
Speaker 1: his pad level low, getting his technique back, because he
Speaker 1: it's been like thirty days since he's practiced. So but
Speaker 1: I would think both would account for it because a
Speaker 1: lower body injury. There's no way he's been running like
Speaker 1: he normally does. Newly minted captain as well, that's right.
Speaker 1: This will be his first season as a Dallas Cowboys
Speaker 1: team captain. Not that that will make too much of
Speaker 1: a difference before besides the coin toss. But I think
Speaker 1: it's still calls it right when he's on the road.
Speaker 1: When you're on the road, Jason, you're still the caller, right.
Speaker 1: So you got a few new captains, by the way,
Speaker 1: you never have me. Who's the other one, Well, it
Speaker 1: would be Orlando Scanner, that's the one. And Dak Prescott.
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott, where's your thirty two jersey? I could warn
Speaker 1: it today. I have to give that back. Oh that's
Speaker 1: too bad. I need to ask this question to the
Speaker 1: guys that've been here the longest, because I don't know
Speaker 1: this to be true. Has there ever been a second
Speaker 1: year guy? Good job? Yeah as a captain? Come on, Mickey,
Speaker 1: go through that rolodex brain. You have no idea. I
Speaker 1: feel like Frederick was one. Maybe Frederick, but he last
Speaker 1: year was his first year. I okay, it's about second
Speaker 1: year in the league, right, Yeah, I'm talking about you know,
Speaker 1: obviously no rookies, but a second year guy definitely makes
Speaker 1: a difference because he is the quarterback, so the leadership
Speaker 1: aspect there. But Wincy Carter, I'm trying to think of
Speaker 1: those days. Yeah, Romo was in his fourth fifth year,
Speaker 1: would have messed up the coin toss? No, but how
Speaker 1: about Aikman? Then he would think Aikman maybe ninety would
Speaker 1: have been his second year. Somebody tweet that to us
Speaker 1: because that's an interesting way up. They don't really list that, dude.
Speaker 1: We'll look into that one. That's a great question. I
Speaker 1: just wander around the league. If that's the case, I
Speaker 1: know it's happened like someone like Jamis Winston exactly, Ben Roethlisberger.
Speaker 1: I mean after his I mean, yeah, you get to
Speaker 1: think of quarterbacks that that their first year amen had
Speaker 1: a good presence. Is Carson Wentz a captain this year? Yeah?
Speaker 1: There you go. Maybe we've got somebody from Philadelphia listening
Speaker 1: to our show. We do. Apparently it's appointed weekly for
Speaker 1: the Eagles. Oh they change them. That's differing on the
Speaker 1: game or who's active. I don't think Peterson doing that.
Speaker 1: There a couple of teams like that. I wonder if so,
Speaker 1: does the captain's really do anything other than walk out
Speaker 1: for the coin toss? Why are you? Why are you?
Speaker 1: Why are you? Minim? I'm just asking, No, no, I'm asking.
Speaker 1: Do I think if you they have captain's meetings or something?
Speaker 1: You know what I think? I think they're looked at
Speaker 1: in if you have a player's only meeting, you know
Speaker 1: when they if things go bad, right, or maybe things
Speaker 1: are going good. Maybe you know, as a young player,
Speaker 1: to me, a young player, I would lean on my
Speaker 1: captain if there's a guy that maybe I'm having an issue,
Speaker 1: maybe I don't quite understand why coach isn't playing me,
Speaker 1: or maybe I'm trying to figure out waynut. Why am
Speaker 1: I on the practice squad? You know, maybe you go
Speaker 1: up to a captain and say, listen, you know you've
Speaker 1: got experience. What do I need to learn here? Well,
Speaker 1: I think Orlando Scandrick being named at captain goes into
Speaker 1: exactly your narrative. You've said that he's had this offseason
Speaker 1: as far as Hey, I realize my time is limited
Speaker 1: here in the NFL. I'm going to help out some
Speaker 1: of these guys. I'm going to be more of a
Speaker 1: leader than I have been in past years. And him
Speaker 1: being elected that shows that you're right in your point. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think that that to me, the captain is the
Speaker 1: guy that if a young player wants to pull a
Speaker 1: guy aside or ask a question without going to a coach.
Speaker 1: I think that's where the captain's kind of play in.
Speaker 1: Maybe a captain notices a young guy struggling, maybe see
Speaker 1: you guys sitting in his locker, and you walk over
Speaker 1: to him and say something such a point of pride. Also,
Speaker 1: who's the point man on offense? Who calls the plays?
Speaker 1: Dak Right, calls him out at the line of scrimmage.
Speaker 1: Who's who's the point man on defense? Sean Lee? So
Speaker 1: it's important, it's natural. Yeah, But I think Dan Bailey's
Speaker 1: kind of the veteran guy that group. Do they get
Speaker 1: a sea on their chest? Yep, like hockey, hockey and
Speaker 1: and and it makes it's actually gold and so every
Speaker 1: star you have gets filled in. So Wittens is hey
Speaker 1: around his back? Was Odell Beckham junior captain last year?
Speaker 1: Good question? Not sure, Kent? No, Apparently it's Eli Manning,
Speaker 1: Jonathan Cassius and a linebacker zachd Aussie that's the snapper
Speaker 1: of the Giants. Yeah. Three. Do they have captains in
Speaker 1: the NBA? I'm not sure. I don't think they do.
Speaker 1: Kareem's nickname was definitely the NHL. In the NHL, it's
Speaker 1: a lot more. They don't have it in Major League Baseball?
Speaker 1: Do they? I don't think so. I mean, I've never
Speaker 1: seen it. Quick like now, Odell Beckham junior not a captain,
Speaker 1: but he did not practice yesterday. Cowboys fans on their
Speaker 1: hands patiently waiting, sure or what's gonna happen? Is they're
Speaker 1: gonna play? Status? I don't. I have my doubts. Is
Speaker 1: he gonna play if he doesn't practice today? I'm strong
Speaker 1: doubts they're gonna play. I'm gonna say no, am I
Speaker 1: the only ones gonna say yes, say yes. I think
Speaker 1: they will, ye, they will prop him up and send
Speaker 1: him out there. I could see that. But I think
Speaker 1: Rob's a good point though. If Rob you know the
Speaker 1: fact that yesterday everybody was quick to show video of him,
Speaker 1: you know, running around in pre drills and stuff like that,
Speaker 1: and oh, he looks like he's moving well. And then
Speaker 1: you get to practice report and he's like a D
Speaker 1: and P. Right, So if he dnps today, he ain't playing.
Speaker 1: You get to Friday and it's, like you said, it's
Speaker 1: a kind of a clean up day here. It's a
Speaker 1: lighter practice anyway. So he's I have my doubts. I'm
Speaker 1: my doubts there. I mean, you know what. To me,
Speaker 1: I just kind of feel like that he's an unusual cat,
Speaker 1: you know. And I'm not going to say he's not tough,
Speaker 1: but I you know, I think he's one of those
Speaker 1: guys that worries about himself more than he worries about
Speaker 1: the team. You think they do a little something something
Speaker 1: on Sunday and send him out there something something. What
Speaker 1: does that mean? No, just give him a little something
Speaker 1: to get him out there to play. You're saying to
Speaker 1: take a shot and only do it once, so you
Speaker 1: do it the day of the game. Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean if I don't know if
Speaker 1: he'll take a shot. If that's what you're saying, something
Speaker 1: something I think he realizes, you know. I was hearing
Speaker 1: some people that, oh, he'll just sit this game out,
Speaker 1: but this is week one division game sening. Oh no,
Speaker 1: you guys, I don't disagree that we ever get a
Speaker 1: degree on his sprained ankle. Well, it wasn't a wasn't
Speaker 1: a high speed. He basically passed out with pain in
Speaker 1: the locker room, you know, and then he arose from pain, right, Lazarus. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: But to me, if he yeah, if he does, Lazarus,
Speaker 1: if he doesn't, if he doesn't practice today, you know,
Speaker 1: we'll see. I would be worried about it. Are you
Speaker 1: thinking something long term? Here? Might be? Might be something
Speaker 1: they're worried about. You try to go out trying to
Speaker 1: win the war. You're trying to win the battle to
Speaker 1: win the war. I don't like comparing Odell to dez Bryant,
Speaker 1: and a lot of fans do it, and it's very
Speaker 1: easy to do so because they both play with such
Speaker 1: passion they're key members of their team's offenses, but he does.
Speaker 1: In this instance, the way that he's handling his injury
Speaker 1: reminds me similar of how Dez has handled injuries in
Speaker 1: the past, like hey, don't count me out, you know,
Speaker 1: and then just sure you can be right because the
Speaker 1: player does not decide if they can play or not.
Speaker 1: I want that. No, that's absolutely true. That's player never
Speaker 1: makes that decision. It really comes down to the medical staff.
Speaker 1: And so these players want to play. Sure it is
Speaker 1: a long season. He's their guy, and if it's a
Speaker 1: thing with an ankle where it could be a lingering deal,
Speaker 1: then maybe they feel like he needs another weak arrest.
Speaker 1: We'll find out. I thought about his knee when he
Speaker 1: first happened. Bad look real bad? Is Jack Rabbit? Play
Speaker 1: it Facebook us? Who Jack Rabbit is? Mackey? That was
Speaker 1: kind of an interesting thing at Jen's press converts. That
Speaker 1: just ruined your morning. You were sitting next to the
Speaker 1: guy too. It was just so flippid. Tell everyone listening
Speaker 1: the story that you're talking about. Jason Garrett got asked
Speaker 1: by I guess he was from the New York Post,
Speaker 1: think the New York Post, and he wanted to find
Speaker 1: out if Jenorris Jenkins how Dez was gonna deal with
Speaker 1: Jenorris Jenkins covering him, and he goes, so, how's Dad's
Speaker 1: gonna do with Jack Rabbit? Who are you? And that's
Speaker 1: basically what Jason said, Jack Rabbit. Now as if everyone
Speaker 1: knows that nickname, I'll tell you what I think the guy.
Speaker 1: It's a bit. I think the guy we want to
Speaker 1: bet you got. The post said, listen, you ask a
Speaker 1: Jack Rabbit question. I mean you got lunch for Norris Jenkins,
Speaker 1: great player. That's not a Megatron nickname where everybody kind
Speaker 1: of knows it, you know, that's kind of a Dave
Speaker 1: Hellman said that next week on the Converence Call, he'll
Speaker 1: ask Advanced Joseph if he's gonna how he's planning for
Speaker 1: DJ duffel bag. Yeah. Let's see if Dave actually follows
Speaker 1: through with his word and does that, because I'm sure
Speaker 1: the advance Joseph will be like, no, yeah, we don't
Speaker 1: have musicians on the field. That might have been Jason's
Speaker 1: greatest answer ever. Well, he looked at him, I looked
Speaker 1: at when the question was asked. I looked at Garrett
Speaker 1: and he kind of like, kind of like gave it
Speaker 1: that kind of that what are you asking there? I
Speaker 1: think it was Seriously, we'll see, Hey, we're talking about
Speaker 1: Odell Beckham Junior and his injury and where the degree
Speaker 1: is and somebody who scared the Giants early on in
Speaker 1: training camp with Sterling Shepherd the wide receivers in his
Speaker 1: second year, he was a contributor for them. Last year.
Speaker 1: He actually had his first touchdown in Week one against
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. How is Scandrick, newly minted captain Orlando Scandrick
Speaker 1: going to play against Sterling Shepherd this weekend? Got that Mickey, Well,
Speaker 1: do they put him in the slaughter or they put
Speaker 1: O'Dell Beckham in this? That they put Shepherd? They put
Speaker 1: Shepherd in this normally. Normally that's where he does most
Speaker 1: Where did Beckham kill him last year? Wasn't it out
Speaker 1: us slot? It was out of the slot on the
Speaker 1: one play. Yet when he got he got lost or
Speaker 1: the Cowboys got lost. They drafted Shepherd to kind of
Speaker 1: be there. Beasley a guy work in the middle of
Speaker 1: the field, slot type guy, more quicker than fast, you know,
Speaker 1: and in Orlando has done a nice job. He's the
Speaker 1: two games that he played last year against the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: He was only targeted four times in each game, which
Speaker 1: with the lowest numbers he's had. So that gives you
Speaker 1: a little bit of a little hope that you know,
Speaker 1: it's Scandrick. Scandrick's healthy. I think that's the most important thing. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: And you know he'll have a chip on his shoulder,
Speaker 1: There's no doubt. We always say that about him. He'll
Speaker 1: have a chip on his shoulder. He always wants to
Speaker 1: try and prove people wrong. You know, this is a
Speaker 1: year he's really gonna push now for to try and
Speaker 1: make a Pro Bowl. He's what ten seasons in ye. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so you know he's got it. He's he even said it.
Speaker 1: You know, he's got to figure out, you know, how
Speaker 1: to do this, and I think he has. And so
Speaker 1: the health is there, you know, the opportunity to cover
Speaker 1: a guy like Shepherd, and especially if you know, if
Speaker 1: if Odell doesn't play, then it's to come down to
Speaker 1: Shepherd and it's gonna come down to Marshall plus the
Speaker 1: tight end Ingram. You know, those are the three you're
Speaker 1: gonna have to worry about if there's no Beckham in
Speaker 1: this game. So yeah, it'll be a good matchup yeah,
Speaker 1: and and and can Orlando keep him in check? That's
Speaker 1: gonna be that's gonna be a key to this game. Well,
Speaker 1: who's their next wide receiver, their next wide receiver out
Speaker 1: of which side? Just whoever? Roger Lewis would start. Probably
Speaker 1: it would be Marshall, No, Marshall would play, and Shepherd
Speaker 1: and then Roger Lewis would yea, they have three, yeah exactly,
Speaker 1: so start three. Yeah, Tavarus King is also on their roster. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so yeah, it would be Roger Lewis would be the guy.
Speaker 1: He's number eighteen, So yeah, it's to me, it's it's
Speaker 1: gonna be key. Yeah. If he doesn't play, you know,
Speaker 1: if you're a Cowboy fan, you should be grateful for that.
Speaker 1: You know, Dwayne Harris, they wouldn't put him in there
Speaker 1: starting wide receiver. I don't think so. Special teams man. Yeah, Hey,
Speaker 1: the Cowboys are very excited because Jason Witten did sign
Speaker 1: an extension in the offseason. He's entering his fifty season
Speaker 1: in the NFL. But you can't forget that. Eli Manning
Speaker 1: is also entering his fourteenth year in the NFL. Never
Speaker 1: missed a game for the Giants. Amazing, How is he
Speaker 1: going to fare in this opening game fourteenth year. You
Speaker 1: know what. To me, we talk about their skill position guys,
Speaker 1: and they have great ones. They had a Brandon Marshall,
Speaker 1: Evan Ingraham, We've talked about him a little bit, the
Speaker 1: rookie tight end, But to me, it starts up front
Speaker 1: for them and can they protect him and can they
Speaker 1: run the football because one thing they didn't do in
Speaker 1: the offseason was really upgrade or change their offensive line.
Speaker 1: They've got two young tackles, Eric Flowers and Bobby Hart,
Speaker 1: and when you read about them up north, I mean
Speaker 1: that's the talk is how can this offensive line protect
Speaker 1: Eli and how can they run the ball? They were
Speaker 1: twenty ninth in rushing last year, so can Paul Perkins
Speaker 1: put Eli in good situations down in distance? Yeah, they're
Speaker 1: one of the worst teams in the league when it
Speaker 1: comes to running for four yards to carry. That's kind
Speaker 1: of your benchmark. They were darn near. I think they
Speaker 1: were twenty seventh or twenty six in the league when
Speaker 1: it came to running the ball for four plus yards,
Speaker 1: where the Cowboys were one of the best. You know,
Speaker 1: with Zeke and the way he's able to do it,
Speaker 1: it's a problem for the Giants. They don't have much
Speaker 1: balance there and it affects him on other downs too,
Speaker 1: when they get in trouble on second down. They're one
Speaker 1: of the worst teams in the league when it comes
Speaker 1: to converting second downs to first downs, and then and
Speaker 1: then it subsequently it puts him in bad shape and
Speaker 1: third downs, which is another a little bit more of
Speaker 1: a problem for them. So yeah, they, like Rob says,
Speaker 1: they haven't done anything with their offensive line. You know,
Speaker 1: with Manning, it's not about the sacks we talked about.
Speaker 1: He was the third least sacked quarterback in the league
Speaker 1: last year. Pressure that's where pressure. The pressure is the
Speaker 1: what it causes him the problem when you blitz him,
Speaker 1: rush him. He's a seventy five percent rated passer that way,
Speaker 1: so you got to find ways to get to him,
Speaker 1: force him to make throws. When you blitz him, he
Speaker 1: tends to have even more problems. So, you know, we
Speaker 1: have to keep an eye on how is the Cowboys
Speaker 1: rush going to be able to affect him if at all,
Speaker 1: don't focus on the sacks, focus on the pressure. Hey,
Speaker 1: they would have finished thirtieth last year in rushing if
Speaker 1: it wasn't for their last possession against the Cowboys in
Speaker 1: the first game, if you remember when they basically almost
Speaker 1: ran out the clock and rushed for fifty yards right
Speaker 1: in the game. So they didn't run the ball well
Speaker 1: the whole game, right, and then it got to the
Speaker 1: point where you needed to stop them and they couldn't.
Speaker 1: End up got like two or three first downs and
Speaker 1: drain the clock, which caused Terence Williamstut to get out
Speaker 1: of bounds. Yeah time, Terrence, don't do that this weekend, Terence.
Speaker 1: Keep keep an eye, keep an eye. Hey, we'll be
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Speaker 1: tweeted at us cleared up some confusion about the captain situation.
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Speaker 1: announce team captains beginning in two thousand and seven. So
Speaker 1: there we go, there we go, all there, we'll just
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Speaker 1: We move on from this captain talks. I know it's gettything.
Speaker 1: The Titans did an honorary captain of a man who's
Speaker 1: suffering from als. So yeah, very special there. They said.
Speaker 1: You know, obviously he's a huge inspiration for the team.
Speaker 1: So hats off to you Titans. But Brian, did you notice?
Speaker 1: But no further, you can say one more thing about it.
Speaker 1: You're going to did you notice that? A lot of
Speaker 1: times Romo would not walk out there for the coins,
Speaker 1: and one day I asked him, I said, what's the deal? Yeah,
Speaker 1: he goes, you know, I got things on my mind.
Speaker 1: I don't want to walk out there and act like
Speaker 1: I'm old buddy buddy with these guys shaking hands. He goes,
Speaker 1: I don't want to talk to anybody. Let's play the game.
Speaker 1: You can't know and it's sketchers. But Brian, let's play
Speaker 1: the game. Sketchers ask sketchers. I like that. Here we go,
Speaker 1: just for the for the panel. Anybody can answer these questions.
Speaker 1: I won't make him individuals. We don't have to hit
Speaker 1: a button. We don't have to First of Mickey, But
Speaker 1: you can answer the first one if you want behind
Speaker 1: the scene player that will make the biggest difference in
Speaker 1: this game. Behind the scene player, I think I have one.
Speaker 1: Go go for it if you you hit your button first. Yep,
Speaker 1: I did, And I'm gonna tell you a hint and
Speaker 1: it doesn't give it away. His last name is Smith,
Speaker 1: not Tyring, not Keith, not Jalen, but the brother Rob Smith. Wow,
Speaker 1: there you go. I think he's a behind the scenes
Speaker 1: player that will have a few impact games this year,
Speaker 1: and I think The Giants Week one will be one
Speaker 1: of them. There's a lot on the Smith brothers. I
Speaker 1: don't know if you guys knew this, but they're the
Speaker 1: thirty fifth brother duo to be on an active roster.
Speaker 1: Very nice. So wow, hey Rod Smith, Rod Smith, I'll
Speaker 1: like it. Specialty going to be active. Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: you will. I think you. I think Rod Smith might even.
Speaker 1: I think Rod Smith maybe if he's actively the kickoff returner,
Speaker 1: some kickoff return special teams, maybe even get some carries.
Speaker 1: Come on, Smith, Yeah, come on our Smith. You gotta
Speaker 1: go sitting. We'll get the actress on Friday. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: the game. Who's your behind this behind the scenes guy.
Speaker 1: Does Anthony Brown count behind this? He's not a starter? Yeah,
Speaker 1: Anthony Brown? Why why? Well he will start well because
Speaker 1: they started. I just think that he has been the
Speaker 1: forgotten guy in the secondary. Everybody's so fired up about
Speaker 1: all the young guys. Well, he's one of the young guys.
Speaker 1: I'm excited for Anthony Brown. I'll go James Hannah blocking
Speaker 1: for that run game. They didn't have him in both
Speaker 1: games last year, and I think their total run yardage was, like,
Speaker 1: you know, less than two hundred yards in two games.
Speaker 1: So he's an underrated part of that group. And he's
Speaker 1: on the injury report, but he's practicing fully, so need him.
Speaker 1: He's probably super hungry to play right now too. I mean,
Speaker 1: Brian we saw him last year. It was every day
Speaker 1: he was out there doing rehab and just trying to
Speaker 1: get back there. Start Sunday. Yeah, I'm gonna go with
Speaker 1: the guy. I'm gonna go with the new guys. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go with Brian Price. That the defensive tackle. I
Speaker 1: think with him and rotating with Stephen Paya, I think
Speaker 1: we're going to see some things from him. So I
Speaker 1: would say that maybe a behind the scenes guy that
Speaker 1: not many people know about get an opportunity to show
Speaker 1: to shine opening day. Guys worry more about Odell Beckham
Speaker 1: in as if he plays. Worry more about Odell Beckham
Speaker 1: or Landing Collins. Saw both of them at the Pro
Speaker 1: Bowl last year, so they're both legit. I'm always worried
Speaker 1: about Beckham if he plays. I just he's a game breaker.
Speaker 1: We've seen it most every time he plays the Cowboys,
Speaker 1: he makes a big play that leads to a touchdown
Speaker 1: or is a touchdown. But that's Collins is clearly one
Speaker 1: of the best defensive players in the league. Yeah. A
Speaker 1: funny story about Landing Collins when he was at the
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl. He's very nice to everyone and we're talking
Speaker 1: and I said, where were you picked in the draft? Again?
Speaker 1: He was picked below Byron Jones. Yeah, second round. He
Speaker 1: was second round. Yeah, second round. And so said, oh,
Speaker 1: did you ever think about coming to the Cowboys? And
Speaker 1: he said, I would have loved to. But after that
Speaker 1: Byron Jones pick, I didn't think I was going that way.
Speaker 1: You're going you're going back. I'm Beckham. Okay, Yeah, If
Speaker 1: Odell Beckham Junior plays, that's gonna be besides Ezekiel Elliott.
Speaker 1: That's gonna be where all the cameras are. If he's
Speaker 1: gimped up a little bit and not exactly pick on him.
Speaker 1: I think that I think that that maybe that you
Speaker 1: could find a way to cover him if he's if
Speaker 1: he's limping around and having to deal with that, Landing
Speaker 1: Collins can ruin your game. Why because he could cover,
Speaker 1: He could take your tight end out of the game.
Speaker 1: He could play in the slot. He's the eighth guy
Speaker 1: in the running game too. If the Giants get hat
Speaker 1: on hat if you play hat on hat it and
Speaker 1: you don't account for him, he will make every single
Speaker 1: tackle within the four yard line box. You know who
Speaker 1: is always thought of Landing Collins as a nemesis, Dak Prescott.
Speaker 1: Back in the alabam Alabama days, Landing Collins had Dak's number. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he got him in interceptions a few times. Here's speaking
Speaker 1: of Dak. Press got Dak Prescott. Question. Dak Prescott average
Speaker 1: four point seven five four point seven five yards per
Speaker 1: attempt in his two games against the Giants last year.
Speaker 1: That was the worst that he had or any any
Speaker 1: team any game. What does you think what do you
Speaker 1: think his yards per attempt will be? For this game,
Speaker 1: give me a number. I think it will rise, but
Speaker 1: I think the same matchups present themselves, So I'll say six.
Speaker 1: You've been talking about this the whole time, that the
Speaker 1: Cowboys struggled to get open on this. Well, yeah, and
Speaker 1: I know the first game, the narrative was, well, they
Speaker 1: kind of dumbed down the game plan because it was
Speaker 1: his first four right, basically had a lot of catches underneath.
Speaker 1: But you watch that second game in particular, and there
Speaker 1: just wasn't a lot of open receivers. And so will
Speaker 1: it alarm you if I tell you that Dak passed
Speaker 1: for more yards than Eli Manning and both it combined
Speaker 1: in both games. I'm just saying, I'm at the crow'
Speaker 1: I know many get out. Man he was terrible, There's
Speaker 1: no doubt about that. And and the Cowboys in that
Speaker 1: opening game kept the ball for thirty six minutes. Six
Speaker 1: minutes they kicked field goals from the five and the seven.
Speaker 1: Four point seven. Low. Woah, that was the lowest. That
Speaker 1: was the low that was His average for two games
Speaker 1: was high, farriss. I believe at eleven nine his highest.
Speaker 1: One says a lot about the quality of that defense.
Speaker 1: It really does what did you say a lot about
Speaker 1: a rookie quarterback starting his first game in the National
Speaker 1: Football I just pointed out that that was a factor. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that second game. Neither quarter or not, neither offense was
Speaker 1: any good that day. Fine, but it wasn't snowing either.
Speaker 1: That don't blame the weather. Why did so? The Cowboys
Speaker 1: big tough defense held the Giants to two hundred and six. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think right, Yeah, there were eight there were eight
Speaker 1: of fifteen. I think the Giants had fifteen possessions, and
Speaker 1: eight of them went eight or three three and out.
Speaker 1: Both teams finished with two hundred and sixty yards. One
Speaker 1: team went one for fifteen on third down. That was
Speaker 1: the Cowboys, and the Giants went two for fourteen. Throw
Speaker 1: a number at me, at for what back? Prescott yard
Speaker 1: per tempt again the seven. He's gonna go over seven.
Speaker 1: Tell you got a number eight point two. There we go, Robert.
Speaker 1: It's impossible not to give the Giants credit, though their
Speaker 1: defense for what they did. Okay, and so the Cowboys
Speaker 1: defense was every bit as good. I'm not even talking
Speaker 1: about we're not talking about the Cowboys defense. We're talking
Speaker 1: about what the Giants did. Still had three hundred and
Speaker 1: twenty eight total yards now scored six points. Yeah, with
Speaker 1: a rookie quarterback playing his first game and a rookie
Speaker 1: running back who had touched the ball every season maybe
Speaker 1: four times game. Well, what about what about the bird
Speaker 1: we're talking about the December game. Well, I'm talking about
Speaker 1: the first game. We've been talking. It's time for Mickey's minute.
Speaker 1: Thank you. Basically speaking of bad quarterback play. How many
Speaker 1: times will the defense intercept Eli Manning in this game? Wow?
Speaker 1: Good question? Um, Well, in the second game, since we
Speaker 1: were talking, the second game in their division twice, right,
Speaker 1: more than two? I'll say they get a pick, get
Speaker 1: one or two? I got two two one from Jeffy
Speaker 1: one Orlando scan director. They'll both be Jeff Heathes. I'll
Speaker 1: tell you what I'm gonna go with two as well.
Speaker 1: I think you find a way to pressure him, may
Speaker 1: you know, get get some rush home on him, you know,
Speaker 1: to make him, make him have to cough the ball up.
Speaker 1: He'll do that for you. Speaking to that, guys, Cowboys
Speaker 1: best passcu Cowboys best pressure will come from this player.
Speaker 1: Marcus Lawrence. I'll say, Benson Mayowa, No, Malee Collins, middle rush,
Speaker 1: middle rush, not edge rush middle rush. Yeah, Malik sayd
Speaker 1: you say you said Lawrence? I said Lawrence, Mallie Collins,
Speaker 1: what about you take? I think it's old Benson Mayo
Speaker 1: part is all right, gonna come out here with the
Speaker 1: rush and ready to go and say, hey, I've heard
Speaker 1: you guys here. I am. I like what I like
Speaker 1: with the I like with the I like the uh
Speaker 1: the Collins one myself. I like them attack in the middle.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's been the best as much as bad
Speaker 1: as Flowers has played for them. The middle pressure is
Speaker 1: what gives him the most problems. So I'm gonna say
Speaker 1: that I have to put another hat on and bow
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Speaker 1: go with the Gang of three. The New York Giants
Speaker 1: will struggle with this player. Defensively. New York Giants will
Speaker 1: struggle with this Oh, I got a good one. I
Speaker 1: think it's gonna be old Jeff Heath. I think Jeff
Speaker 1: Eath is coming in no Defensively, defensively Giants defense. The
Speaker 1: Giants defense will struggle with this cowboy's offensive player. I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, my bad, poorly formed question there. The New
Speaker 1: York Giants will struggle with this player defense. Okay, I
Speaker 1: actually I see what you're saying that they meant there, yea,
Speaker 1: what cowboy offensive player. I'll go Beasley. He was super
Speaker 1: productive in the two games. He's Dak's safety blanket. I
Speaker 1: think he will have some opportunities underneath work in the
Speaker 1: middle of the field. I think Jason Winton, you know,
Speaker 1: he only needs seventeen yards to surpass Michael Irving for
Speaker 1: the team's all time receiving yards. It's I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: he's been here fifteen years, but it's very very goat
Speaker 1: like surprised neither nobody went with and we know what
Speaker 1: the front seven is for the Giants. I'm surprised nobody
Speaker 1: went with Ezekiel Elliott. Well he right, just have him
Speaker 1: been preparing for him to be in this game? My
Speaker 1: mind is your mind. You're not thinking about him being
Speaker 1: in the game. I'm still wrapping my head around it.
Speaker 1: I won't see it until he comes out wearing the
Speaker 1: crop top. Does the whole water spewing thing that Kent
Speaker 1: Get so beautifully makes a wonderful gift out of. It's
Speaker 1: just then I'll be like, oh, this is real. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And at the risk of sounding like Mickey he uh,
Speaker 1: you know, he was playing his first NFL game that
Speaker 1: first game when you have I think he averaged like
Speaker 1: two points six yards of carry. Yeah. I think he
Speaker 1: was feeling his way through this offensive scheme and he
Speaker 1: ran better in the second game. I think the hatch
Speaker 1: on yeah, yeah, I think you'll have a better game
Speaker 1: this time around. The game that Ezek Elliott stood out
Speaker 1: to me so much last year was the Bears. You know,
Speaker 1: you had the hurdling and that was really I felt like, yeah,
Speaker 1: he did great. He did a good job in the
Speaker 1: San Francisco game, but that Bears game felt like a
Speaker 1: big come out game for him, and so to see that,
Speaker 1: I think maybe maybe Tay two and Rob. The tough
Speaker 1: defense game was Pittsburgh. If you think about a team
Speaker 1: that you know, being having to be physical, having to finish,
Speaker 1: meaning he catches the screen the way he finished the
Speaker 1: runs and stuff, They're going to need him to finish
Speaker 1: in this game. They really are going to need him
Speaker 1: to finish in this game. Maybe with that type of
Speaker 1: pressure that the Giants can get, maybe that screen game
Speaker 1: is part of this deal. Well, yeah, that's something that
Speaker 1: they've kind of gone to. The Cowboys have gone to
Speaker 1: more of a how you handle blitz. You handle blitz
Speaker 1: by getting the ball out quick, taking advantage of Beasley,
Speaker 1: taking advantage of of you know, of anybody like Williams, anybody,
Speaker 1: they can get the ball too quickly and let them
Speaker 1: have blockers in front and go. Well you said earlier,
Speaker 1: and we don't have to get into this too much.
Speaker 1: That Orlando Scandrick will be playing with the chip on
Speaker 1: his shoulder. Yeah, Zeke's gonna be playing with the chip. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's that's why I was kind of question was especially
Speaker 1: if he's thinking this might be his only game. Sorry, yeah, no,
Speaker 1: I no, absolutely, I was thinking that to me, that
Speaker 1: he's a guy that you know, he could have the
Speaker 1: bit between his teeth. Last year that they took two
Speaker 1: l's against the Giants, you can't afford you know, Luckily
Speaker 1: had never lost a game, but her to that, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. I mean, that's it's crazy to
Speaker 1: think that way, but yeah, absolutely, this I just feel
Speaker 1: like though that he is one of those guys that
Speaker 1: they're going to ride in this football game. It's gonna
Speaker 1: because set it's because set things up, other things up
Speaker 1: in the passing game to hopefully help them. Maybe landing
Speaker 1: Collins doesn't hurt him. Maybe you know the Kramardi doesn't
Speaker 1: hurt you in the passing game. So yeah, and then
Speaker 1: I hope that McAdoo admits that it does matter. Oh sure,
Speaker 1: what running back it's playing. Absolutely no, we all know
Speaker 1: that's just coach speak. But we'll go ahead and take
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Speaker 1: final segment of Talking Cowboys here in the SWBC Mortgage studio,
Speaker 1: and you know, before we get of the callers, you
Speaker 1: guys are there and we're going to get to you,
Speaker 1: but we have to get to the pole because I
Speaker 1: think it's going to cause some interesting conversation. Fortunately, Mickey
Speaker 1: is not here with us right now, but he doesn't
Speaker 1: have a riding. He doesn't have a riding. That's okay,
Speaker 1: I'm perfectly fine with that. You mentioned Ben mcadoo's comment about, hey,
Speaker 1: if there's nowhere to run, it doesn't matter who the
Speaker 1: running back is, and I think his point was probably, Hey,
Speaker 1: the Giants have to prepare for anybody and just have
Speaker 1: a good sound run defense no matter who's in there. However,
Speaker 1: good pole idea. How many rushing yards do you expect
Speaker 1: the Cowboys to have Sunday versus the Giants? You got
Speaker 1: three options between fifty and one hundred one hundred to
Speaker 1: one fifty or over one fifty. Now keep in mind
Speaker 1: I think it's like under two hundred for two games.
Speaker 1: Oh no, I know. Yeah, it's incredible what the Giants
Speaker 1: do defensively. They don't give you a they don't give
Speaker 1: you much space. I'm assuming that most people voted that middle.
Speaker 1: They did sixty four percent between one hundred and one
Speaker 1: to fifty. That's a nice safe guess. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: actually was Zeke in there. Yeah, I just think that
Speaker 1: the Cowboys are going to have to find a way
Speaker 1: to win on first down. And winning on first down
Speaker 1: with the Cowboys offensively, is Ezekiel Elliott carrying the football?
Speaker 1: You know, we might see him get into a lot
Speaker 1: of what we call thirteen personnel, you know, with the
Speaker 1: three tight ends now that they're all back to You
Speaker 1: talked about that, Rob. I think you talked about James
Speaker 1: Hannah as being that under the radar type of guy
Speaker 1: that's coming back that it's going to be a difference maker.
Speaker 1: I would not be one bit surprised if the Cowboys
Speaker 1: try and balance and balance the Giants out and say, okay,
Speaker 1: we'll play thirteen personnel and let Ezekiel get hat on
Speaker 1: hat We've talked about that. The success that they were
Speaker 1: able to have against the Giants in that game at
Speaker 1: the Meadowlands was the ball was going to the outside.
Speaker 1: They were able to get the guards in the centers outside,
Speaker 1: and they were able to block on space. They made
Speaker 1: Apple the corner have to defend. They made j Norris Jenkins,
Speaker 1: who's not a bad run defend, made him have to defend.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I think that. To me, it's it's gonna
Speaker 1: be about them winning on first down. Dallas can't afford
Speaker 1: to get in situations where it's second and nine, second
Speaker 1: and ten, second and eleven. Not that you're gonna have
Speaker 1: many negative plays with Zeke, but you can't be in
Speaker 1: a situation where Dak Prescott's having to make throws on
Speaker 1: second and nine, second and eight maybe even right there,
Speaker 1: especially if the receivers aren't finding ways to get open.
Speaker 1: There were a ton of those down and distance problems
Speaker 1: in the first game. Dak played right the opener last year,
Speaker 1: and a lot of a lot of like you said,
Speaker 1: second and eight, third and nine, third and ten, third
Speaker 1: and eleven, that's tough for a young quarterback. Yeah, it is.
Speaker 1: It is. Well, let's get to the callers. We have
Speaker 1: Johnny in Salt Lake City on the line. Johnny, what's
Speaker 1: your question? Hey guys, I just wanted to ask you,
Speaker 1: how concerned are you guys about the secondary going into
Speaker 1: this game? Me personally? I mean, I know you said
Speaker 1: Norland Carroll is kind of like a Brandon Clark, but
Speaker 1: I never really liked the kid. I'll I remember was
Speaker 1: Dez Bryant beating this kid like a year and year
Speaker 1: and year out. So other than that, the rookies not
Speaker 1: playing because they're injured, and then the Cowboys, even though
Speaker 1: it's a low investment having a goal, get a guy
Speaker 1: like Benet. So I just wanted to hear you guys
Speaker 1: take on that. Thanks, good questions. The guy that the
Speaker 1: guy that it wasn't Nolan Carroll, is it Bradley Fletcher?
Speaker 1: There was the one that does Brant always torched? Well,
Speaker 1: I think he might be referring I don't want to
Speaker 1: speak in the last game. That mean, yeah, Terrence Williams,
Speaker 1: Well the last game, well he was talking about Dez Bryan.
Speaker 1: I think yeah he meant. I think he might have
Speaker 1: meant Terrence Williams because Terrence Williams touchdowns that he had
Speaker 1: the very last game. Yeah, yeah, Nolan Carroll gave up
Speaker 1: the one touchdown. I know that. But I know that
Speaker 1: Bradley Fletcher was a bad player for the Philadelphia Eagles,
Speaker 1: and I think people get Nolan Carroll and Bradley Fletcher.
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter. It's still the same number, twenty two
Speaker 1: and twenty four. I think we're the two numbers. So yeah, absolutely,
Speaker 1: but yes, yeah, worry about the secondary. I think you
Speaker 1: worry about the secondary and if if it comes down to, okay,
Speaker 1: how are you going to defend Evan Ingram? This is
Speaker 1: where this is where I think this game. I think
Speaker 1: when you know, if it's Beckham and he's nicked, you know,
Speaker 1: keep an eye on that Shepherd. You feel like that
Speaker 1: maybe with Scandrick he got an opportunity there. The third
Speaker 1: guy playing is gonna be Anthony Brown. You know you
Speaker 1: feel pretty good about Anthony Brown. Talk about him, No,
Speaker 1: he talks about but he's not. If it's Anthon, it's
Speaker 1: if it's against brand if it's against Marshall, then that's
Speaker 1: you know, that's your matchup. So now what about Byron Jones?
Speaker 1: What's obscene? How is that against Evan Ingram? But is it?
Speaker 1: Is it? Do you keep him deep to help with
Speaker 1: the over the over the field downfield stuff, or do
Speaker 1: you play him near the line to prevent the crossing stuff.
Speaker 1: This is gonna come down to a woozy And now
Speaker 1: if you, yeah, if you don't feel comfortable about a
Speaker 1: woozier played in this game, then you should have some concerns.
Speaker 1: You should, absolutely because they're gonna find a way to
Speaker 1: have to play that. He's gonna have to match up,
Speaker 1: whether it's whether it's put Byron Jones down or maybe
Speaker 1: they mix that up. Maybe they play Byron Jones down
Speaker 1: against Ingram, sometimes play him back, then put a Woozier
Speaker 1: in there, play some of their dime stuff. The chess
Speaker 1: game is going to be big in this one. But
Speaker 1: if you it's veteran guys, it's veteran guys. But you're
Speaker 1: gonna put rookie on rookie and see how it goes.
Speaker 1: Coach Marinelli, I just feel like I would ask him
Speaker 1: these questions. He would tell me one line, Oh, it's
Speaker 1: all figured out. Guys, got this, we got it, we
Speaker 1: got it. You know what do you think you would say, Kent?
Speaker 1: What would Coach Marinelli? I guess you guys are talking
Speaker 1: to the coordinators today. Need to be more consistent, you know,
Speaker 1: get after it, stay solid, aggressive, you more consistent. What
Speaker 1: about playing a rookie coach? How do you feel about
Speaker 1: playing a rookie there? Oh, he'll get opportunity. Gotta get
Speaker 1: in there and get reps. Opportunity, and the opportunity is priceless,
Speaker 1: solid a chance to get better every day. Yeah, a
Speaker 1: chance to get better. Dylan Smith, A lot of Twitter
Speaker 1: questions are coming in right now. What can people expect
Speaker 1: his role to really be? I know he'll primarily be
Speaker 1: sharing the starting role with Durant, but how will he fare? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think of of a snap count for
Speaker 1: and we kind of talked about that yesterday. I don't
Speaker 1: think he's going to be a sixty snap guy. Justin
Speaker 1: Durant's a guy that he's missed some time, but he's
Speaker 1: a veteran. He says he'll be ready. I think with Jalen,
Speaker 1: maybe you see him play between twenty and thirty snaps
Speaker 1: in this game. That fair. I would think that maybe
Speaker 1: that you would me personally. I think they're getting him
Speaker 1: ready to play an extensive amount a lot. I do, Okay,
Speaker 1: I think they're getting him now. I always say this,
Speaker 1: think of him and Justin Durant as one player who
Speaker 1: is the one player though that's taken the most practice reps,
Speaker 1: who is the one player that's played in games. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So to me, the options are, do you play a
Speaker 1: guy that the veteran guy who might not be in
Speaker 1: football condition Yeah? I mean he's in he's in conditioning
Speaker 1: as far as running and stuff like that, but the
Speaker 1: one thing that he hasn't done is practice extensively. I
Speaker 1: think they're I think that they're I think they're gonna
Speaker 1: cut Jalen Smith loose on this one. I really really
Speaker 1: do everyone getting cited. How do you think you'll do? Though?
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. I think the health tay is
Speaker 1: going to be fine. I don't worry about the conditioning.
Speaker 1: We've talked about this a bunch, the mental side of it,
Speaker 1: and the mental I don't mean being a dumb guy.
Speaker 1: I mean play with your eyes. See. The one problem
Speaker 1: he has is overaggressiveness. Be calm with the way you
Speaker 1: attack the giants, and like he's like he's too hyped
Speaker 1: because he's in there, and yeah and overun he overruns plays. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and and so yeah, I don't feel like that the
Speaker 1: drops are going to be a problem or the lateral stuff.
Speaker 1: I just I just don't want him to be overly
Speaker 1: hyped in there and all of a sudden think that
Speaker 1: he has to make every single tackle. You're playing next
Speaker 1: to Shawn Lee. Likely in the nickel Sean Lee will
Speaker 1: make every single tackle if you just do your job,
Speaker 1: be a good support player, find a way to to
Speaker 1: to whatever they need you to do. Be that guy.
Speaker 1: Don't go out and wear the red cape day one.
Speaker 1: You know he's already got the cape on. If you
Speaker 1: think about what he's been through. You know, I met this.
Speaker 1: I was totally wrong about the guy. But don't go
Speaker 1: out and be a hero. Go out play your assignment
Speaker 1: player keys. Don't overrun plays. That's the biggest problem. If
Speaker 1: the Giants make plays in the running game, or make
Speaker 1: any type of really offensive play, it will be him
Speaker 1: overrunning and missing a tackle. It's a great point, like,
Speaker 1: I can't blame him for being overhyped for this game
Speaker 1: if that's what happens. I mean, he's gonna have family
Speaker 1: there he's been I mean, this is a moment he
Speaker 1: thought I don't know if he thought it, but a
Speaker 1: lot of people thought he'd never have right. I am
Speaker 1: very excited at him. Now. We've talked a lot about
Speaker 1: the defense, but I feel like we'd be remiss if
Speaker 1: we do not mention what fans can look for in
Speaker 1: Taco Charlton. Yeah, this weekend, the first round draft pick
Speaker 1: defensive end will be playing his first regular season game.
Speaker 1: How do you guys expect him to be out there?
Speaker 1: You know, where is he going to play? What is
Speaker 1: his role really going to be? I would see him
Speaker 1: working into that defensive end rotation. He's been on the
Speaker 1: right side, He's played some left side. Maybe he works
Speaker 1: in after Mayo. With Mayo was ready to go and
Speaker 1: he's healthy, Maybe he's he's part of that group that
Speaker 1: comes in. Maybe in nickel situations too. We've seen him
Speaker 1: there too. I would expect him to get plenty of
Speaker 1: reps to in this game. Yeah, I don't disagree at all.
Speaker 1: I think the rotation it's gonna be about pressure in
Speaker 1: this game, and especially we keep saying this, if the
Speaker 1: Giants can't run the football with any consistency, now it's
Speaker 1: about turning around and trying to create pressure on the edge.
Speaker 1: Rob brought up the tackles for the Giants. They've had
Speaker 1: their shares of struggles. When you talk about you know,
Speaker 1: with flowers and heart, those aren't just you know guys
Speaker 1: that you say, Okay, those are shut down offensive tackles.
Speaker 1: So you know, let's see if if if Tacco and
Speaker 1: Fat can win at the line of scrimmage. Let's see
Speaker 1: if he can have a quick arm overmove rip, move something.
Speaker 1: Play him in a game, play him in a twist stunt,
Speaker 1: let him try and get home on some Russians. So
Speaker 1: maybe he could be that guy that you know, we
Speaker 1: didn't talk about him as the behind the scenes player,
Speaker 1: but maybe he could be a behind the scenes player.
Speaker 1: We've seen him played better, yea. We've seen him played
Speaker 1: better in the preseason games as he's gone through them.
Speaker 1: So hopefully he can carry that in. All right, we
Speaker 1: have a caller on the line, Tony from Florida. Hope
Speaker 1: you're safe, Hope your family safe? What's your question? Hi?
Speaker 1: Thank you guys. Umm. I'm going to be traveling from
Speaker 1: Orlando this Saturday to attend the game for this weekend
Speaker 1: and I'm so excited. I think Zeke will be a
Speaker 1: big different for the game, and I think we'll win.
Speaker 1: But I just have one question. What's the chances that
Speaker 1: Zeke will continue playing for the whole year. I know
Speaker 1: it's up to the court, but I just want to
Speaker 1: take you play fantasy football? Do you play fantasy football? Tony?
Speaker 1: You play? You play fantasy football? Uh? No, you know, Okay,
Speaker 1: I thought maybe this was a fantasy question. Tell me
Speaker 1: if you're playing, Yeah, tell me if you're playing just
Speaker 1: a Cowboys fan. Yeah, we'll safe travels to you and
Speaker 1: welcome to Texas when you get here. I hope everything's
Speaker 1: okay when you get back from you. Yeah. That's the
Speaker 1: million dollar question, isn't it. Yeah, I would love to know.
Speaker 1: I mean you want to you want to you want
Speaker 1: to put odds on an injunction on a win? Go ahead? No,
Speaker 1: I mean I'm asking you too. You have no clue.
Speaker 1: I don't have a clue. Would you say it's at
Speaker 1: sixty percent or more that he gets in he gets
Speaker 1: an injunction? I mean if you go off precedent and
Speaker 1: Brady got one, then maybe you think, okay, yeah there's
Speaker 1: a chance. But it's every case is different, So I
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't have a feeling about this. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I've tried to. I know, we got in a huge
Speaker 1: discussion about it yesterday. It's it's hard. We're beating our
Speaker 1: heads against the wall talking about it, you know, as
Speaker 1: I'm one of these guys that and even my own
Speaker 1: mom came out after listening to show yesterday and said, Brian,
Speaker 1: he has to clear his name, doesn't he, you know,
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying he doesn't have to clear his name.
Speaker 1: Distraction maybe a bad word, but I just want to
Speaker 1: I would just like to get I don't put it
Speaker 1: this way, and I'll stop after I say this. I
Speaker 1: just don't see this getting better. You know, the more
Speaker 1: that the more that it goes through the courts, the
Speaker 1: more people are paid to dig and find out things.
Speaker 1: And you know, I think it's to a point where, yes,
Speaker 1: you know, we know what we know now, but if
Speaker 1: this thing goes on another six months, you know what
Speaker 1: else are you going to find out? What else you
Speaker 1: had to live? Yeah? And I think that, Yeah, And
Speaker 1: I know he's wrong. I know he wants to clear
Speaker 1: his name, and Mom, you're absolutely right all the time.
Speaker 1: I totally agree with you about that, good man. But
Speaker 1: but I will say this, though, there comes a point
Speaker 1: in time where you have to say I just, you know,
Speaker 1: for the best. I just don't want them to continually
Speaker 1: dig I mean, the NFL is a huge, huge, huge business.
Speaker 1: Yesterday making mention that there were thirty four players suspended
Speaker 1: on that were released on Saturday. Sure, great point, But
Speaker 1: Ezeki Elliott league led the league in rushing last Yes,
Speaker 1: and there is a microscope on that guy. Yeah, there's
Speaker 1: no doubt about it. And you know, and especially if
Speaker 1: this turns into a bit. It's already a big case.
Speaker 1: But the more that you have to prep to get
Speaker 1: ready for a further case down the line, then you
Speaker 1: know what else is going to come out, what else
Speaker 1: is going to harm? See, I'm not thinking about the
Speaker 1: team here, I'm thinking about Zeke. I'm thinking about what
Speaker 1: else out there do we not know about. Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: but it's already the allegations are already bad, and he's
Speaker 1: in a situation where he clearly, like Jerry has said,
Speaker 1: there's no clear evidence here. I would be so mad
Speaker 1: if I was in that situation and clearly claim I'm innocent.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna fight it, Brian, like I sure. I just
Speaker 1: I don't care what else comes out, Like I don't
Speaker 1: want that attached to my name. Okay, you guys know
Speaker 1: who Willie Sneet is. Yeah, yeah, he had an appeal,
Speaker 1: it got approved. It's down to three games. People didn't
Speaker 1: even talk about. That's Ezekiel Elliott the main topic, but
Speaker 1: was his was alcohol? Yeah. No, I'm not comparing this
Speaker 1: is said, so please don't tweet me and say different suspensions.
Speaker 1: All I'm comparing is that there is so much interest
Speaker 1: in Ezekiel Elliott. He is on the plane field or not,
Speaker 1: And so to say all these things about these other
Speaker 1: players being suspended and that snouts here and all this stuff,
Speaker 1: it's unfair. I just worry about further carnage, is what
Speaker 1: I worry about. There is a question though about other
Speaker 1: suspended players, Jamie and Wilson and Nolan Carroll. Bobbie wants
Speaker 1: to know are they eligible to play Sunday. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: mean we haven't heard anything from the league, you know,
Speaker 1: and they weren't part of the thirty five or so
Speaker 1: names that Mickey mentioned yesterday on the waiver wire, so
Speaker 1: from the other day. So yeah, until further notice, all
Speaker 1: those they'll be all available and and likely play agreed,
Speaker 1: which concerns you more. Jamie wants to know the run
Speaker 1: game if Zeke goes ahead, or how the O line
Speaker 1: performs with a new left guard and right tackle stepping in,
Speaker 1: assuming this is past week one, because he says, you
Speaker 1: know Zeke playing ad well, it kind of goes hand
Speaker 1: in hand, you know, especially if you don't have Zeke
Speaker 1: in there and you don't have a guy that can
Speaker 1: get you a couple extra yards on a play that
Speaker 1: maybe shouldn't go as far as it doth in one
Speaker 1: play in the Yeah Lands. Yeah, I mean, I think
Speaker 1: you've got a factor in both. I think they'll figure
Speaker 1: out this left guard situation at some point and roll
Speaker 1: with the guy, and you hope that both guys stay
Speaker 1: healthy and it's not a situation where Chads gets hurt
Speaker 1: again and they've got to put Cooper in. I'd be
Speaker 1: more concerned with the running game sustaining. If there's no
Speaker 1: Zeke in there for six weeks sustaining, I think that's fair. Yeah, Mickey,
Speaker 1: how do you feel about this online moving forward? Will
Speaker 1: they figure it out? I worry about it from the start.
Speaker 1: I think that both guys, if they stay healthy, will improve.
Speaker 1: But are they ready September tenth? Are they ready east
Speaker 1: September seventeenth? You know, and maybe one of these things
Speaker 1: where you get better as you go along, but they
Speaker 1: count the early games. Yeah, I've had the concern about
Speaker 1: Chaz Green. I've said a bunch. I think he's one
Speaker 1: of the best five they've got. But you know, and
Speaker 1: every time they put him into it, plugged him into
Speaker 1: a situation, he succeeded what I thought. You know, initially
Speaker 1: I was a little worried about this, but you know,
Speaker 1: at the guard spot, I don't think it's his best position,
Speaker 1: but hopefully that he'll overcome any short falls that he has.
Speaker 1: It'll be difficult in this game. It's two big, physical
Speaker 1: inside players for the Giants. You're gonna have to you know,
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to be tough in the middle of
Speaker 1: that pocket because it's not going to be easy running
Speaker 1: the football for sure. I saw an interesting stat today
Speaker 1: and what we're talking about the offensive line. You said
Speaker 1: the start, And that's what scares me because the Dallas
Speaker 1: Cowboys are the only team this season who are facing
Speaker 1: straight four games against top ten defenses from the twenty
Speaker 1: sixteen season. Obviously, that's that's something to look at. And
Speaker 1: if you got an O line and you're worried about them,
Speaker 1: to start, how are you going to fill them week four?
Speaker 1: And a lot of the strength of those defenses is
Speaker 1: their front, right you look at the Rams in Denver, Arizona, Arizona,
Speaker 1: and especially this Giants team. Yeah, yeah, you finding the
Speaker 1: research on that. When you said that, it gave me
Speaker 1: pause and I was trying to remember the first four teams.
Speaker 1: So I'll go ahead and tell you the Dallas Cowboys
Speaker 1: are the only team TOPEEN twenty seventeen with four straight
Speaker 1: games against top ten total defenses from last season, New
Speaker 1: York Giants, Denver, Arizona in La Rams. Okay, so my
Speaker 1: thought was they're going to have to play four straight
Speaker 1: games against teams that had winning records last year, and
Speaker 1: that's not the case. Yeah, No, top ten total rams
Speaker 1: didn't quite A question with a lot of those teams
Speaker 1: is can they score points exactly? But but yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean defensively, they're gonna challenge Dak. They're gonna challenge Zeke
Speaker 1: if he's available for those games, no question. What do
Speaker 1: you think they're saying there? If Zeke's there, they're probably thinking,
Speaker 1: they're probably praying that Zeke's not there. Yeah, most players
Speaker 1: will tell you. Harold Henderson most teams will tell you that.
Speaker 1: Those guys will say, oh no, I don't care. I
Speaker 1: want to play against competition. That's a lie. You look
Speaker 1: for the easiest path to win a football game, there's
Speaker 1: only sixteen of these. They're hard to win Von Miller
Speaker 1: and all of them would like to get past this
Speaker 1: old line. They would rather play against. They would rather
Speaker 1: play it. Whoever your backup tackle is. Trust me. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean the players always say, oh, bring, it doesn't matter,
Speaker 1: but deep down inside trust me. I've been on the
Speaker 1: field with players before the game. Is player talking. Yeah, No.
Speaker 1: I've been on the field of NFL games where I've
Speaker 1: had players walk up to me and say, he didn't
Speaker 1: look like he's going today, DESI, I'm saying, it doesn't
Speaker 1: look like any goes. Oh that's good, that'll help us. Hey,
Speaker 1: you're wearing a Super Bowl ring and I remember one
Speaker 1: time asking you about that and you said you have
Speaker 1: to be very lucky, lucky to get a Super Bowl ring.
Speaker 1: Sometimes luck, unfortunately, comes with other people's misfortune. Nobody remembers
Speaker 1: really who didn't play. They just you remember who won
Speaker 1: the game when it comes five years from now. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So win the game. Larry Allen Flew, Larry Allen Flew,
Speaker 1: No one cares about that. Yeah, tomorrow, Mickey kind of
Speaker 1: hinted at it already. But we're going to get to
Speaker 1: game predictions. We're going to get to our guesses for
Speaker 1: the inactives and get ready to watch the Cowboys take
Speaker 1: on the Giants at AT and T Stadium Sunday Night football.
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