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Speaker 3: Welcome in to Kentucky Sports Radio. It is Friday, June fourteenth.

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Speaker 3: It is also the Sources a podcast Takeover Day KOSRS

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Speaker 3: Jack Pilgrim in the Big Chair joined by Sean Smith

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Speaker 4: I am fantastic, Jack Pilgrim. It's always a joy to

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Speaker 3: We talked about it before we had layups. The last

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Speaker 4: these guys. While you figure that out, You've got Jackson

435
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Speaker 4: Robinson in the system who has had success in it.

436
00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:09,360
Speaker 4: That's a massive starting point for Kentucky, and.

437
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Speaker 3: You touched on it a little bit, Jackson being the

438
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Speaker 3: seventh super senior that Pope has added. You don't want

439
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Speaker 3: to have this revolving door of one and done's on

440
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Speaker 3: the other end. I know everybody kind of talked focus

441
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Speaker 3: on the one and done with cal but we're gonna

442
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Speaker 3: have seven to one and dones with this upcoming roster.

443
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Speaker 3: But that was the way for a quick fix. The

444
00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:35,560
Speaker 3: easiest way to win right away is by getting as

445
00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:38,000
Speaker 3: old as possible guys that have been an instabay tournament,

446
00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:40,080
Speaker 3: who has scored twenty five points in a tournament game.

447
00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:42,840
Speaker 3: That was the path for an immediate rebuild where you

448
00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:46,440
Speaker 3: can dream big about the championship expectation that Mark Pope

449
00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:49,760
Speaker 3: has talked about ad nauseum. How important is that for

450
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Speaker 3: the seven super seniors to get those guys locked up

451
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Speaker 3: with a nice, little complimentary mix of guys with multiple

452
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Speaker 3: years of eligibility.

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Speaker 4: Well, we've talked about this a lot that he's got

454
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Speaker 4: a window here. You're coming into a situation where you're

455
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Speaker 4: in a roster is in I mean, you're starting over

456
00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:07,240
Speaker 4: like you're used to doing that at Kentucky, but not

457
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Speaker 4: to this extreme, like this is Super seniors starting over.

458
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Speaker 4: And you said mixing in some freshmen and some other

459
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Speaker 4: guys that you find value in that could have multiple

460
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Speaker 4: years in this program. But when you look at it, though,

461
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Speaker 4: Jack there Kentucky basketball, it's it's not forgiving. So there's

462
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Speaker 4: gonna be some fire when you're losing games. Even though

463
00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:28,119
Speaker 4: he's an alum, even though he's won a national championship here,

464
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Speaker 4: there's going to be some fire if he loses a

465
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Speaker 4: couple of games early. People aren't going to be like, ah, man,

466
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Speaker 4: we'll wait till next year. There's there's an understanding here

467
00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:38,800
Speaker 4: that he's building something, but you also want to have

468
00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:41,320
Speaker 4: the best chance to win right away at Kentucky, and

469
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Speaker 4: he's done that. Like this gives Kentucky the best chance

470
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Speaker 4: to have success in your one loading up on super seniors,

471
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Speaker 4: figuring it out. He's got guys that have made big

472
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Speaker 4: shots in NCAA tournament games. He's also got a couple

473
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Speaker 4: of guys that in this system that I think can

474
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Speaker 4: pop and go to another level. And if that happens,

475
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Speaker 4: I think Kentucky can outperform some of the preseason expectations

476
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Speaker 4: that they have.

477
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Speaker 3: Yeah, we're gonna talk a little bit about Mark Pope

478
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Speaker 3: embracing those championship expectations saying yes, they're terrifying.

479
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Speaker 5: We know that.

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Speaker 3: You know, he comes out, it comes off the bus

481
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Speaker 3: in front of a packed Reparna crowd. It would have

482
00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:19,000
Speaker 3: been so easy for him to just say, guys, I

483
00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:21,480
Speaker 3: know you guys are ravenous, I know you guys are hungry,

484
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Speaker 3: but this is gonna be you know, we're starting a

485
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Speaker 3: brand new culture. I got to establish myself. I got

486
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Speaker 3: to build the culture, and he threw all of that

487
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Speaker 3: in the dumpster. I mean, he could have taken the

488
00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:33,840
Speaker 3: easy way out and immediately walked in and said, you

489
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Speaker 3: know what, screw all that. I want you guys to

490
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Speaker 3: demand the most success imaginable from day one. We'll talk

491
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Speaker 3: about a little a little bit about that. Right after this,

492
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Speaker 3: we'll talk about what Mark Pope is going to do

493
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Speaker 3: with that thirteenth scholarship spot. Right after that we will

494
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Speaker 3: see them. TJ. Smith, personal injury attorney, called TJ. He'll

495
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Speaker 3: make them pay.

496
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Speaker 2: Now more of Kentucky Sports Radio presented by Stockton Mortgage.

497
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Speaker 5: Here's Matt Jones.

498
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Speaker 3: We'll come back source to say take over day. Jack

499
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Speaker 3: Pilgrim here with Sean Smith, give us call eight five

500
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Speaker 3: nine two to eight oho two two eight seven. We

501
00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:10,359
Speaker 3: are talking batcats, we are talking Kentucky basketball. We are

502
00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:13,960
Speaker 3: talking shark attacks. You do not want to. I don't

503
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Speaker 3: even know which one which one of those topics I

504
00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:18,760
Speaker 3: like the most. I'm hoping that we get some good

505
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Speaker 3: feedback on that. And although I didn't make a mistake,

506
00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:24,800
Speaker 3: somebody tweeted at me in DRC tweeted you said earlier

507
00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:27,200
Speaker 3: that none of the UK players had World Series experience,

508
00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:29,680
Speaker 3: daily transfer from Texas and played in the World Series.

509
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Speaker 3: I was more so like the general idea of the leader,

510
00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:36,760
Speaker 3: having the experience and kind of you know, leading the

511
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Speaker 3: charge with a lot of guys who have and I

512
00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:41,840
Speaker 3: know it's a veteran led team that that's how they

513
00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:43,960
Speaker 3: got to this point by coming together at the right time.

514
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Speaker 3: And you know, but you just like to have the

515
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Speaker 3: the guy leading the charge, you know, capable of you know,

516
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Speaker 3: rallying the troops and doing what he's been able to

517
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Speaker 3: do up to this point. So I know there are

518
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Speaker 3: specific guys that have been here, but the big Pictures

519
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Speaker 3: speaking talked a little bit about the thirteen roster spot

520
00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:06,000
Speaker 3: you have twelve. There's a lot of debate about how

521
00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:09,520
Speaker 3: you would want to use this this this last spot,

522
00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:13,359
Speaker 3: you know, Pope and initially called it a floating piece

523
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Speaker 3: where you know, we could take a guy who's you know,

524
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Speaker 3: gonna be a five year red shirt piece where you know,

525
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Speaker 3: you you take a project on and say, we know

526
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Speaker 3: you are not going to contribute year one. We know

527
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Speaker 3: it's probably gonna be a two, three, four year process

528
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Speaker 3: before you finally find your groove and hopefully, you know,

529
00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:35,360
Speaker 3: rocket into superstardom that's the goal. Or you could take

530
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Speaker 3: you know, an international piece that's what you know. Cody

531
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Speaker 3: figuer Kind of hinted at that, saying, you never know

532
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Speaker 3: which European prospect is going to become available in August.

533
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Speaker 3: As we saw last season with Big Z, those opportunities

534
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Speaker 3: always kind of come out later on in the summer.

535
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Speaker 3: Reclass possibilities are very you know, peach gam is kind

536
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Speaker 3: of a sweet spot for a lot of those guys

537
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Speaker 3: that basically decide, you know, I don't have a lot

538
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Speaker 3: to gain by another year school, why not just make

539
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Speaker 3: the jump. You get into that tricky situation of do

540
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Speaker 3: you take a guy who just wants to be force

541
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Speaker 3: fed with shots in minutes knowing that he's the thirteenth

542
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Speaker 3: scholarship piece. So it's a tricky position to be in,

543
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Speaker 3: and I understand why Pope wants to kind of be

544
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Speaker 3: patient with it. What is your take on that, and

545
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Speaker 3: I'll give a quote that Pope kind of talked about

546
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Speaker 3: what his plan is as of right now.

547
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Speaker 4: I think the pressure is off thirteen because of what

548
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Speaker 4: they were able to do one through twelve and Jackson

549
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Speaker 4: Robinson being the twelfth. I think it takes a ton

550
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Speaker 4: of pressure off what you do with this last one

551
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Speaker 4: because you don't really feel pressed to have to do

552
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Speaker 4: anything that to impact this current team. It can be,

553
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Speaker 4: as you said, for a future piece. It could be

554
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Speaker 4: for a guy that maybe could possibly play his way

555
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Speaker 4: into a role here, but you don't really have to

556
00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:48,600
Speaker 4: have that need. So I think that everything that they've

557
00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:50,520
Speaker 4: done has been so strategic. And that's the word that

558
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Speaker 4: I'm going to keep using. I've used it off spring,

559
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Speaker 4: I'll continue to use it all Summer. Number thirteen is

560
00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:58,600
Speaker 4: going to be in the same form, same model. Whoever

561
00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:01,080
Speaker 4: gets added, it's to be for a reason. It's not

562
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Speaker 4: just to add somebody. They're going to be very intentional

563
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Speaker 4: with who they take for that thirteen scholarship. I just

564
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Speaker 4: like that we're using thirteen scholarships. Take advantage of all

565
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Speaker 4: of them. You got them, use them. And with this

566
00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:14,720
Speaker 4: one though, you can kind of have a holding pattern

567
00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:17,440
Speaker 4: because you've got what you need. If you can add

568
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Speaker 4: to that and get some back and help, great, If not,

569
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Speaker 4: you get somebody that's a reclass or something for the future,

570
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Speaker 4: a guy that you can build and grow in your program.

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Speaker 5: Do that too.

572
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Speaker 4: So I think Kentucky's in a unique spot here, but

573
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Speaker 4: it's a comfortable position for Pope to be in with.

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Speaker 3: This, And he said yesterday told BBN tonight, we have

575
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Speaker 3: one scholarship floating out there, and we'll see whatever happens

576
00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:38,800
Speaker 3: is going to be a little bit creative and it's

577
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Speaker 3: going to fit really, really well. Will Riley is the

578
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Speaker 3: one that you know, in the short term, immediate one

579
00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:48,840
Speaker 3: that we're keeping an eye on. Takes an official visit

580
00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:51,360
Speaker 3: to Kentucky seen as a kind of neck and neck

581
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Speaker 3: race with Illinois in the Wildcats, Orlando Antigua leading the

582
00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:58,639
Speaker 3: charge there. He loved Will Riley at Kentucky and just

583
00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:01,680
Speaker 3: kind of continued where he left off going back to Illinois,

584
00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:06,480
Speaker 3: a you know, clearer role for him as a superstar.

585
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:09,840
Speaker 3: If he does have dreams of reclassing up, he would

586
00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:12,720
Speaker 3: be draft eligible in twenty twenty five. So it would

587
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:15,520
Speaker 3: make sense for a guy like Will Riley to you know,

588
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:18,720
Speaker 3: go somewhere where he will have a bigger role and

589
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:21,840
Speaker 3: get the shots to become, you know, the lottery pick

590
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 3: that he hopes to become. That's where things get tricky

591
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:29,360
Speaker 3: for Pope is what is the what is his priority?

592
00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:32,520
Speaker 3: Do you take a surefire lottery pick and say, man,

593
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Speaker 3: that's just going to elevate our ceiling, Why the heck

594
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Speaker 3: would we not take take a risk on that, or

595
00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:39,800
Speaker 3: do you take maybe a guy who you know that

596
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:42,639
Speaker 3: wants to reclass but is going to be a multi year,

597
00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:46,200
Speaker 3: you know, two year guy. That's the tricky part. I

598
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Speaker 3: think that, you know, I would like adding Will Riley,

599
00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:53,480
Speaker 3: but I also understand the concern there of maybe not

600
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Speaker 3: messing up what's already working really really well.

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Speaker 6: With his group.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, because you've already got guys that are you know,

603
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:02,040
Speaker 4: we know we're going to play, you know, in this roster.

604
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:03,040
Speaker 5: What does that do?

605
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Speaker 4: Does it disrupt the rhythm of what you've already pieced

606
00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:07,600
Speaker 4: together and some of that camaraderie And I think they

607
00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:09,760
Speaker 4: would figure it out if that's the way Kentucky goes.

608
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:11,480
Speaker 4: But hey, this is the unknown that we have right

609
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:14,200
Speaker 4: now with Mark Pope right load it up on transfer portal.

610
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:17,520
Speaker 4: Didn't really get to touch on high school recruiting since

611
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:19,439
Speaker 4: he's been here. This is the first swing at that,

612
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:22,560
Speaker 4: and that's what we're waiting to see. Can he recruit

613
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Speaker 4: and land elite high school talent and how does he

614
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Speaker 4: blend that with transfer portal and guys that grow in

615
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:29,560
Speaker 4: your program and kind of you're able to retain there.

616
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:34,120
Speaker 4: So who's the first big splash for Mark Pope. Does

617
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Speaker 4: he make a splash with number thirteen or is this

618
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Speaker 4: kind of just another strategic way that you try to

619
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Speaker 4: add to what you've got or maybe somebody that can

620
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Speaker 4: build and grow inside of this program, because Jack, I

621
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Speaker 4: think that that's something that you're going to see that's

622
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Speaker 4: different moving forward. You're going to be able to touch

623
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Speaker 4: all areas of roster construction. Now it's not going to

624
00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:56,160
Speaker 4: be top heavy with guys that are going to be

625
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Speaker 4: out the door after one year.

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Speaker 5: You're going to get some NBA talent.

627
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Speaker 4: You're going to get really good trans for players from

628
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Speaker 4: the portal, but you're also going to be able to

629
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Speaker 4: get bodies that you can retain and grow in your program.

630
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Speaker 4: And I think if you can touch all three of

631
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Speaker 4: those areas, and I think you've got a really good program.

632
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Speaker 3: I kind of separated into three different tiers. It was

633
00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:15,160
Speaker 3: so important for Pope to land Colin Chandler a for

634
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Speaker 3: continuity of that guy wants to play for me and

635
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:21,720
Speaker 3: he's following me. That was the first, you know, and

636
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:23,720
Speaker 3: he was a top thirty recruited, but that was a

637
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:27,480
Speaker 3: I can land high school talent that you know, people

638
00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:30,040
Speaker 3: I'm a wanted commodity as a coach. That was an

639
00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:33,680
Speaker 3: important first get. Jackson Robinson I think was the next

640
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:37,200
Speaker 3: tiered guy of Okay, that's that's your big fish in

641
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:39,800
Speaker 3: the transfer portal. You had Kobe Brea, you added some

642
00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:43,680
Speaker 3: other key pieces, but Jackson Robinson was the anchoring piece

643
00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:46,400
Speaker 3: that you really really needed to get again for system

644
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:50,600
Speaker 3: familiarity and continuity, those things were important. But you're still

645
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:53,640
Speaker 3: missing that blue chip high school you know, and I

646
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:55,320
Speaker 3: think the staff knows that talking to some people around

647
00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:59,440
Speaker 3: the program, that's what they're They're navigating those waters right

648
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:01,720
Speaker 3: now with this thre teenth spot because they do love

649
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:05,760
Speaker 3: this twelve man group so much that they don't want

650
00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:09,479
Speaker 3: to add a polarizing personality to muck all that up.

651
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Speaker 3: You can't afford the one bad egg to kind of

652
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Speaker 3: mess everything out in the one bad apple to mess

653
00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:18,200
Speaker 3: everything else up. So but you also know how important

654
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Speaker 3: it is to land your first big fish at the

655
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Speaker 3: high school level. Will Riley would be that guy. We

656
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:25,000
Speaker 3: got our first top ten guy. We're Kentucky Basketball. Let's

657
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:27,400
Speaker 3: keep rolling. You know, we're not going to just recruit

658
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Speaker 3: the top ten players in every single class moving forward

659
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:33,040
Speaker 3: like Cal did. But I can still land dudes that

660
00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:36,680
Speaker 3: fit my system, that that is a super important, tricky,

661
00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:39,000
Speaker 3: touchy thing that he has to deal with, and that

662
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Speaker 3: you know that I understand the hesitancy there. And that's

663
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Speaker 3: why even if you'd miss on Will Riley he goes

664
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Speaker 3: to Illinois. I think that's why you wait till after

665
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Speaker 3: Peach GMC if there's a guy, you know, that's why

666
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:53,680
Speaker 3: I just keep coming back to Jasper Johnson where he

667
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:57,800
Speaker 3: is emerging as the guy in twenty five, but he

668
00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:00,360
Speaker 3: has somebody work to do and needs to had some

669
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:04,280
Speaker 3: weight and kind of figure himself out. What is he

670
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:06,040
Speaker 3: going to get with another year of high school that

671
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 3: he can't get with the UK strength and conditioning program,

672
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Speaker 3: knowing that he's on a two year path. You know,

673
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Speaker 3: I don't do I think that's likely. No, but that

674
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:17,680
Speaker 3: type of vision of you know that he could be

675
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Speaker 3: on a two year path or that you know, finding

676
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Speaker 3: something similar with the international international path.

677
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Speaker 4: And that's the creativity that you know we talked about

678
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:26,520
Speaker 4: that Pope said there you can get creative with what

679
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Speaker 4: you do with this last spot. So it's interesting to see,

680
00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:32,640
Speaker 4: but look, roster one for Pope at Kentucky's going to

681
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:35,640
Speaker 4: look different than roster two, three and four because he

682
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:38,760
Speaker 4: had to do what anything just to kind of be

683
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:42,280
Speaker 4: able to compete right away there. They didn't have the

684
00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:45,160
Speaker 4: blue chip talent that was available when he got this job.

685
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:47,640
Speaker 4: All those guys were taken, they were already signed and

686
00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 4: going somewhere else. He loaded up with some really really

687
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:54,800
Speaker 4: good college basketball players, got in state talent, and then

688
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:57,960
Speaker 4: let's see what the blueprint is following year one. Your

689
00:31:58,040 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 4: one is about what are we doing on.

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Speaker 5: The floor here?

691
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 4: Are we establishing a system and a culture and what

692
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Speaker 4: we want at Kentucky? And I think that that's being

693
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Speaker 4: done now.

694
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Speaker 3: Starting to get the callers in. Let's go to the

695
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Speaker 3: Clark's Pumping Shop phone line. We have Seth on the line. Hi,

696
00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:14,800
Speaker 3: what's going on? Seth?

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Speaker 6: Hey, not too much. This was my questions kind of

698
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 6: from your guys to show the other day with your

699
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:28,400
Speaker 6: bench press, what kind of shark would be your max press.

700
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Speaker 3: I appreciate the call, Seth for the new listeners that

701
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Speaker 3: are unfamiliar. We got a little hectic on the draft

702
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 3: decision deadline show where we were waiting for Jackson Robinson's

703
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:47,320
Speaker 3: decision that never came, so we you know, up through

704
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:51,280
Speaker 3: midnight up through one AM one point thirty or whatever.

705
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:54,760
Speaker 3: We got really really really really really ridiculous there at

706
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Speaker 3: the very end, and we ended up playing rock paper scissors.

707
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Speaker 3: One of the any ridiculous dumb topics that we had were,

708
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Speaker 3: you know, talking about whether or not we could bench

709
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Speaker 3: press Pat Kelcey and how many of Pat Kelcey's we

710
00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:10,560
Speaker 3: could we could bench press, talked about his height and

711
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 3: weight and just kind of you know, measuring that. So uh,

712
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:17,920
Speaker 3: a really ridiculous nonsense topic, but it does beg the question, seank,

713
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:20,680
Speaker 3: could could you bench press a shark? And what what

714
00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:22,600
Speaker 3: shark would that be? Would it be a baby.

715
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 5: Shark, a dwarf of lantern shark?

716
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Speaker 3: Did you google google the smallest sharks?

717
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Speaker 5: So a dwarf lantern shark is smaller than a human hand?

718
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:34,479
Speaker 3: Oh you could? You could? You could use that as

719
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Speaker 3: a dumbell.

720
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Speaker 5: Yeah, like Pat Kelsey is that is.

721
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Speaker 3: That our shark equivalent of Pat Kelsey?

722
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Speaker 5: That's our shark equivalent of Pat Kelsey.

723
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Speaker 3: I just don't know what the like the weight ratio

724
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:50,239
Speaker 3: is of like how much Google for me? How much?

725
00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:51,120
Speaker 3: Is it a bull shark?

726
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:51,320
Speaker 6: Way?

727
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Speaker 3: Because I feel like that's gonna be something ridiculous four

728
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:56,560
Speaker 3: you know, five hundred pounds can't do that obviously, just

729
00:33:56,800 --> 00:34:00,120
Speaker 3: but I need something scalable.

730
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Speaker 5: Here between two hundred and five hundred pounds.

731
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Speaker 3: Oh well, I mean, all right, the grips.

732
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:06,000
Speaker 5: What's going to get you though?

733
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:06,320
Speaker 6: Right?

734
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:08,680
Speaker 5: What are you gripping? Are you going inside the mouth?

735
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Speaker 3: And that'd be a really cool photo like.

736
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Speaker 5: Beat her last one?

737
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Speaker 3: Probably, yeah, man, that'd be that's that would be you.

738
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Speaker 4: You get you get attacked by the shark, but then

739
00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:24,400
Speaker 4: you come out car and get over your shoulders like.

740
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:27,600
Speaker 3: Like a Greek god or something like Aquaman coming out

741
00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:30,600
Speaker 3: of the water. Oh gosh, Well, so much for keeping

742
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:33,359
Speaker 3: this thing on the rails because we're already very off. Great,

743
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:37,160
Speaker 3: great call, they're they're I appreciate that, seth. I want

744
00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:39,360
Speaker 3: I want to go back a little bit. Mark Pope

745
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:44,200
Speaker 3: also talked about his championship demands and knowing just how

746
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:46,440
Speaker 3: scary they are and I want to, you know, see

747
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Speaker 3: what you think about just kind of the approach Sean

748
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:50,919
Speaker 3: and if you know, he if it's a right one.

749
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Speaker 3: He gets off the bus as we talked about to

750
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Speaker 3: start the show, says our assignment is to go win

751
00:34:55,880 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 3: banners in the final four win national championships. That's our job.

752
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:02,879
Speaker 3: And then he followed it up after getting the twelve

753
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:07,719
Speaker 3: man group that we see today, says, if you know Kentucky,

754
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:10,200
Speaker 3: you don't really have an option. This is Kentucky. Bass, Well,

755
00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:12,359
Speaker 3: you can try to go out there and moderate expectations,

756
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 3: but that's not going to be accepted by anybody. If

757
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:16,719
Speaker 3: you want to moderate expectations, don't take the job at

758
00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:19,359
Speaker 3: the University of Kentucky. There's one thing that's expected here,

759
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:23,080
Speaker 3: and that's that one thing will seal your tenure as

760
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:25,640
Speaker 3: a coach here and as a player here. That expectation

761
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:28,200
Speaker 3: is to go win a championship. So he said, it's

762
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Speaker 3: terrifying for sure, and it's daunting, and it's humbling because

763
00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 3: you understand how hard it is. I'm not naive to understanding.

764
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Speaker 3: So he knows that it's probably a, you know, a

765
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Speaker 3: dumb thing to say that we're gon we're gonna go

766
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Speaker 3: win a national championship in year one. But in my opinion,

767
00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:48,040
Speaker 3: that's the approach you got have because I would rather

768
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:52,719
Speaker 3: a guy who will swing until he falls down dead

769
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:57,920
Speaker 3: versus somebody who kind of takes the cushioned approach and says, well, let's,

770
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 3: you know, let's take this one step at a time.

771
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:03,400
Speaker 3: Let's try to build this culture first before we can

772
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:06,640
Speaker 3: kind of take this in three, four or five years.

773
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:10,480
Speaker 3: I'd rather a guy, you know, try to get to

774
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:13,279
Speaker 3: the finish line and die trying, versus somebody who didn't

775
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:14,480
Speaker 3: give it, give it his best shot at all.

776
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:17,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, shoot for the moon, catch a star approach, right,

777
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:19,880
Speaker 4: like you you never know what you get. So I

778
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:23,279
Speaker 4: like that he isn't shying away from the expectations. My

779
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:26,040
Speaker 4: favorite thing about Mark Pope so far, though, has been

780
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 4: the way he talks about Kentucky.

781
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:32,279
Speaker 5: It's we, it's us, And.

782
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:34,520
Speaker 4: It's different though, right because like when it was Cal

783
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:38,879
Speaker 4: and other coaches, it was BBN, it was Kentucky fans,

784
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:42,360
Speaker 4: and I get it, Like those guys didn't have Kentucky.

785
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:45,719
Speaker 4: They weren't Kentucky before they got here. Mark Pope is Kentucky.

786
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:49,439
Speaker 4: He is Kentucky basketball. He's gone through the fire plane here.

787
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:53,080
Speaker 4: He's been Kentucky his entire career, his entire coaching career,

788
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:55,640
Speaker 4: his entire playing career. He's been Kentucky. So I think

789
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 4: him saying we and us, he's not just talking about

790
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:02,400
Speaker 4: this current team. He's talking about all this And I

791
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:04,880
Speaker 4: think that's a really cool approach, and that's a genuine

792
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:06,239
Speaker 4: thing that's just coming out of his mouth. That's not

793
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:09,880
Speaker 4: something that he's strategically doing. He's he's saying, this is

794
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:12,880
Speaker 4: all us, this is all Kentucky basketball. We're in this together.

795
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 4: And I think that that approach is kind of bringing

796
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:19,960
Speaker 4: we know, Jack that everybody is supporting Kentucky basketball. Even

797
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:23,600
Speaker 4: through the frustration of John Calipari's tenure closing there the

798
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:26,839
Speaker 4: last four or five years, people still wanted Kentucky to win.

799
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:28,960
Speaker 4: At the core of it. You were a Kentucky fan,

800
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:31,560
Speaker 4: you wanted them to have success. But it feels like

801
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:34,200
Speaker 4: this has been a two month process of just bringing

802
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:36,719
Speaker 4: everybody back into the same room.

803
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:39,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's go on hit our next break itives call

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834
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Speaker 3: stuff happening over at ks Bar got a question from

836
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:09,000
Speaker 3: Twitter from Wildcat's Tongue. I wanted to ask you this, Sean.

837
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:11,840
Speaker 3: I think it's a good one in your career, which

838
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:15,279
Speaker 3: recruit UK commit or not was the most frustrating to

839
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:17,520
Speaker 3: cover and which one was the nicest.

840
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:21,040
Speaker 4: The nicest is easy for me and you and I

841
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:22,759
Speaker 4: have talked about this a lot. So when I was

842
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:27,440
Speaker 4: first getting into to the beat, that was around Tyree

843
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:31,000
Speaker 4: Smaxiy in that class. And I'll tell you this, Tyree

844
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:33,920
Speaker 4: Smaxi is one of the nicest human beings I have

845
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:37,799
Speaker 4: ever interacted with in my entire life. And he is

846
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:40,399
Speaker 4: the only player to this day that I covered on

847
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:45,400
Speaker 4: any circuit eybl three SSB, any of it that reached

848
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:46,919
Speaker 4: out to me after the weekend and.

849
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:47,840
Speaker 5: Thanked me for coming.

850
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:49,280
Speaker 3: That's awesome.

851
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:52,759
Speaker 4: And I remember when he left Kentucky I did an

852
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:56,759
Speaker 4: interview with him as well. He got back to me asap,

853
00:39:57,080 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 4: and you that smile and things like who what you

854
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 4: saw of Tyre Smacksy on TV is exactly what you

855
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:05,080
Speaker 4: get a Tyree Smacksy in person.

856
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:10,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, and like, I just remember knowing that about him

857
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:13,320
Speaker 3: as he kind of went through his journey at Kentucky

858
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:16,560
Speaker 3: and then for him to become what he has as

859
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:19,399
Speaker 3: a max level contract player in the NBA, I think

860
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:21,400
Speaker 3: that is just the coolest, you know, one of the

861
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:24,480
Speaker 3: coolest UK specific stories, because UK has had a lot

862
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:28,120
Speaker 3: of great guys to come through, but for him specifically

863
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:30,319
Speaker 3: to kind of go through what he went through for

864
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:32,799
Speaker 3: whatever reason, falling down the draft boards a little bit

865
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:36,320
Speaker 3: to you know, put himself in a really good competing

866
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Speaker 3: position from day one with the Sixers to becoming now

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Speaker 3: arguably the face of the Sixers alongside Joel embiid Man.

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Speaker 3: That's a guy who deserves every single, you know, bit

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Speaker 3: of praise, but also every single scent that he is

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Speaker 3: coming has coming his way.

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Speaker 4: One of the nicest, toughest guys that you'll see. Nice guy, man,

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Speaker 4: He's tough, especially on the best. Before I remember, it

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Speaker 4: was his high school graduation and I was I'd talked

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Speaker 4: back and forth with his mom and he hopped on

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Speaker 4: the same day of his graduation to record with me

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Speaker 4: for about ten or fifteen minutes before he got to Kentucky.

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Speaker 4: I was like, man, what an unbelievable kid.

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Speaker 3: Man. That's awesome, And I guess the most frustrating there

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Speaker 3: were a lot like Kate Cunningham was a really really

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Speaker 3: tough one because there was just so much. You know,

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Speaker 3: when you're dealing with high school kids that are just

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Speaker 3: navigating a brand new process, sixteen year olds that are

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Speaker 3: trying to figure out what their future looks like and

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Speaker 3: where would be best fit for them, and you commit

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Speaker 3: privately to one staff and that leaks on one side,

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Speaker 3: and then he goes and commits elsewhere, like you get

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Speaker 3: those were the most most frustrating kid was obviously up there.

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Speaker 3: But I think, honestly, it's been tougher with the transfer

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Speaker 3: port layer. I think these guys win. There's money involved.

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Speaker 3: It's just fogged things up so much that you know,

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Speaker 3: you could, I mean, you could be minute difference between

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Speaker 3: a kid being at one place versus the other. First

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Speaker 3: hour flew by, I can't believe we're already done with

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Speaker 3: this one. Back right after this source of s a

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Speaker 3: takeover here on Kentucky's Sports radio