WEBVTT - Seth Curry 0:00:01.240 --> 0:00:07.600 The volume. The Draymond Green Show is presented by a 0:00:07.720 --> 0:00:10.880 fan duel sports book. There's no better place to bet 0:00:10.920 --> 0:00:15.560 the action than on FanDuel sports Book during the football season. 0:00:15.680 --> 0:00:19.400 It's easy to use, it's safe and secure, you get 0:00:19.440 --> 0:00:22.479 payouts and as fast as two hours. There's so many 0:00:22.640 --> 0:00:27.360 bet types. My favorite same game parlay bets. There's live betting, 0:00:27.800 --> 0:00:32.240 player props, futures. If you're new, just download the FanDuel 0:00:32.320 --> 0:00:35.720 sports Book app to get started. Now sign up. Please 0:00:35.880 --> 0:00:41.880 use the promode code column C O L I. An 0:00:42.640 --> 0:00:51.680 fan duel sports book makes it easy. Alright, So, as 0:00:51.840 --> 0:00:55.200 y'all know, UM number one, welcome back to The Draymond 0:00:55.200 --> 0:00:57.920 Green Show. Like we said last week, we're splitting the 0:00:57.920 --> 0:01:01.560 show up in just two different segments, and today we 0:01:01.760 --> 0:01:05.319 have the player guest segment of the show. I'm honored 0:01:05.319 --> 0:01:08.440 to have this next guest on the show. Actually a 0:01:08.480 --> 0:01:10.800 guy who when he came into the league started his 0:01:10.920 --> 0:01:15.240 career his first training camp with US UM, which I 0:01:15.280 --> 0:01:17.640 look back on that now and you see the players 0:01:17.640 --> 0:01:20.040 that he's become, and you have to sit and think 0:01:20.080 --> 0:01:22.679 and wonder, like, man, how did he get away from us? 0:01:23.440 --> 0:01:27.800 Number one? It's just when you when you think of 0:01:27.800 --> 0:01:32.760 the word nepotism, it's it's it's alive and well and 0:01:32.920 --> 0:01:37.160 especially all through the NBA. So even from a nepotism standpoint, 0:01:37.240 --> 0:01:39.319 it should have been this way. And then if we 0:01:39.400 --> 0:01:42.320 took advantage of that, we would have this guy and 0:01:42.360 --> 0:01:45.440 we automatically win the championship with what he's bringing to 0:01:45.480 --> 0:01:48.520 the court. But we didn't even take an advantage of that, 0:01:48.600 --> 0:01:51.600 and we lost out on this guy. And I actually 0:01:51.680 --> 0:01:54.200 have the utmost respect for him because he didn't get 0:01:54.240 --> 0:01:56.000 it that way, because he went and got it out 0:01:56.040 --> 0:01:59.200 the mud to the G League, into the league, back 0:01:59.200 --> 0:02:01.040 to the G League, into the league, back to the 0:02:01.040 --> 0:02:04.200 G League, and then he made his way. This next guest, 0:02:04.760 --> 0:02:07.480 my brother Seth Curry. What's up, Bro, Welcome to the 0:02:07.560 --> 0:02:11.600 Draymond Green Show. What was going on? Man? Just chilling 0:02:11.639 --> 0:02:15.799 man number one? Um, Like, I was just saying, what 0:02:15.800 --> 0:02:19.880 what was it for you that was that that drove 0:02:19.960 --> 0:02:24.320 you to Like I think most people would have said, no, Steph, 0:02:24.400 --> 0:02:27.000 you can, like you can Oncent, make strong on the team, 0:02:27.040 --> 0:02:29.240 make strong on the team. Y'all have the same agent. 0:02:29.639 --> 0:02:31.600 The agent can say, hey, no, make sure he's on 0:02:31.639 --> 0:02:34.360 the team. You never wanted it that way. What was 0:02:34.400 --> 0:02:37.040 it that drove you to to make you go get 0:02:37.040 --> 0:02:40.280 it out the mud the way you did. I'm just 0:02:40.400 --> 0:02:42.920 I've always been that way. I know Steph having a 0:02:42.919 --> 0:02:46.120 but like him as his perks, especially uh the more 0:02:46.200 --> 0:02:48.000 he goes up enough when it gets more power within 0:02:48.040 --> 0:02:50.440 the league. But kind of my whole life I kind 0:02:50.440 --> 0:02:53.720 of want to separate myself a little bit. Um. That's 0:02:53.760 --> 0:02:55.560 one of the reasons I didn't decide not to go 0:02:55.600 --> 0:02:58.320 to Davison out of high school. I wanted to to 0:02:58.400 --> 0:03:00.240 kind of make my own mark, beating my own person 0:03:00.600 --> 0:03:04.119 and really kind of earned everything everything that I did. 0:03:04.200 --> 0:03:07.079 So I think just having that way it's made me 0:03:07.120 --> 0:03:09.359 a better a better player in the long run, just 0:03:09.720 --> 0:03:13.200 because I really embraced my journey in and really had to, 0:03:13.200 --> 0:03:14.800 like I said, had to grind, had to work for 0:03:14.919 --> 0:03:19.600 every single thing. So I don't really take it for granted. Absolutely, 0:03:19.639 --> 0:03:22.720 And speaking of not going to Davidson out of high school. 0:03:22.720 --> 0:03:25.520 Out of high school, you went to Liberty, and take 0:03:25.680 --> 0:03:28.040 take us on that journey. That journey to Liberty, you 0:03:28.080 --> 0:03:32.440 went and totally dominated, especially as a freshman, leading all 0:03:32.520 --> 0:03:35.000 freshman scoring with twenty a game. Take us on that 0:03:35.120 --> 0:03:39.040 journey to Liberty and you're going there, and and what 0:03:39.160 --> 0:03:42.040 other schools did you pick against as well? I had 0:03:42.080 --> 0:03:44.000 like two or three offers out of high school, so 0:03:44.040 --> 0:03:47.200 I was I mean, I committed to Liberty after my 0:03:47.280 --> 0:03:49.560 junior year in high school. I think if I would 0:03:49.560 --> 0:03:50.960 have waited and played it out, I would have had 0:03:50.960 --> 0:03:53.160 some more offers because I just made a little jump 0:03:53.800 --> 0:03:55.400 going into my senior in high school. But I had 0:03:55.400 --> 0:03:57.760 a good relationship with the coach at the time at Liberty, 0:03:57.920 --> 0:04:00.240 Richie McKay. Um. I knew he was gonna put ball 0:04:00.280 --> 0:04:03.560 in my hands and give me opportunity to to improve 0:04:03.600 --> 0:04:05.680 my game and show what I can do. So I 0:04:05.720 --> 0:04:08.280 went to UM. I went to the place that that would, 0:04:08.280 --> 0:04:10.920 like said, give me the opportunity to display my skills 0:04:10.960 --> 0:04:13.200 and what I could do. And I was at Liberty 0:04:13.520 --> 0:04:17.839 UM just that system and and doing and like I said, 0:04:17.960 --> 0:04:19.839 I made a big jump and that that really propelled 0:04:19.880 --> 0:04:21.320 me to who I am today and giving me that 0:04:21.360 --> 0:04:23.560 confidence that I could I could play against the best 0:04:23.560 --> 0:04:25.240 at the high school level and I mean at the 0:04:25.279 --> 0:04:27.400 college level. And I figured it out as I go along. 0:04:30.760 --> 0:04:33.320 You then go to Liberty, you dominate. How How did 0:04:33.440 --> 0:04:36.760 how did the process go for you ended up at Dupe. Like, 0:04:36.960 --> 0:04:39.920 did you did they just come right after you at Liberty? 0:04:39.960 --> 0:04:42.320 Did you open up that you wanted to transfer? They 0:04:42.360 --> 0:04:44.240 came after you along with other schools. How did that 0:04:44.279 --> 0:04:47.560 process work out? Yes, it's I was at Liberty. So 0:04:47.600 --> 0:04:53.000 I had a great UM non conference UM non conference run. 0:04:53.240 --> 0:04:55.279 I mean, I was age a lot of points, doing 0:04:55.279 --> 0:04:57.280 my thing. When the when got into the conference play 0:04:57.320 --> 0:05:00.440 and they were sending double teams triangle into was at me, 0:05:00.480 --> 0:05:02.400 and it just it wasn't a good styllar basketball for 0:05:02.440 --> 0:05:05.120 me to play. It wasn't fun. I was you hear 0:05:05.160 --> 0:05:07.680 that that frustration that Kevin been talking about over the 0:05:07.720 --> 0:05:10.600 past few weeks of sending traps at him as he 0:05:10.640 --> 0:05:13.880 comes across half Port, that was me all throughout conference place. 0:05:13.880 --> 0:05:15.240 So I was like, I gotta go somewhere where I 0:05:15.240 --> 0:05:18.080 can play some real basketball and being around some better 0:05:18.080 --> 0:05:20.719 teammates and play UM just at a high level. So 0:05:20.760 --> 0:05:23.719 I opened up my my recruitment. I said I was transferred. 0:05:23.760 --> 0:05:25.960 I didn't know where I was gonna go. My dad 0:05:26.000 --> 0:05:28.800 obviously did some research of some options that I would have. 0:05:28.880 --> 0:05:31.719 But once I decide I was gonna transfer, UM, I 0:05:31.760 --> 0:05:33.159 wanted to. I know I wanted to play inn ACC 0:05:33.360 --> 0:05:37.040 somewhere um and Duke came calling. I stepped on campus, 0:05:37.640 --> 0:05:40.280 Coach put the put the JJ Reddick videos up for 0:05:40.360 --> 0:05:42.200 the Voodoo on me, and I didn't make it out 0:05:42.600 --> 0:05:45.599 out of his office without a commitment. So uh, it 0:05:45.640 --> 0:05:49.400 just worked out that way. That's that's insane. As a 0:05:49.480 --> 0:05:53.320 kid from Charlotte growing up in the state of North Carolina, 0:05:53.680 --> 0:05:56.960 you got North Carolina Duke. We all know how that goes. 0:05:57.440 --> 0:06:00.440 I'm not sure with the way that y'all eyes were 0:06:00.440 --> 0:06:02.960 set up, like y'all were more of an NBA family, 0:06:03.320 --> 0:06:06.000 So I'm not sure if if if y'all grew up 0:06:06.160 --> 0:06:08.320 North Carolina or Duke, I would love to know that. 0:06:08.360 --> 0:06:13.680 But like that gotta be a dream come true. Like 0:06:14.160 --> 0:06:17.520 as a North Carolina kid, you're then't going to do Yeah, 0:06:17.800 --> 0:06:19.839 we all wanted to go to Dukes kids, bro Like, 0:06:20.400 --> 0:06:23.680 like I've been a Michigan State was my dream school. 0:06:23.720 --> 0:06:26.440 But at at some point in life you're like, yo, 0:06:26.560 --> 0:06:28.400 you want to play for coach k at Duke, Like 0:06:28.880 --> 0:06:31.200 that's a big deal. I know that had to be 0:06:31.279 --> 0:06:35.760 insane As a North Carolina kid who also it seemed 0:06:35.800 --> 0:06:39.039 like you would never have that opportunity as well. Yeah, 0:06:39.080 --> 0:06:41.280 it's it's I mean, we grew up into the Bacco Road, 0:06:41.440 --> 0:06:43.960 rabb the street in Charlotte, So I just think you 0:06:44.000 --> 0:06:47.240 said we're around the NBA game, but being growing up 0:06:47.279 --> 0:06:52.200 in North Carolina's college basketball first. So it's North Carolina's, dude, 0:06:52.200 --> 0:06:54.479 because and he stayed those those type of schools that 0:06:55.120 --> 0:06:57.680 I mean, it's just some some special about the rivalry. 0:06:57.760 --> 0:07:01.960 So growing up watching those games, um being on campus said, dude, 0:07:02.000 --> 0:07:04.000 like you said, walking in Coach K's office, it was 0:07:04.040 --> 0:07:06.479 a real film. My mom was around. She was she 0:07:06.560 --> 0:07:08.520 was in his office crying. I'm like, you know, you 0:07:08.520 --> 0:07:12.040 gotta relax, like it's a recruiting recruiting visit. She's in 0:07:12.080 --> 0:07:15.080 there in tears because we're at Duke and it's it's 0:07:15.120 --> 0:07:17.880 it's hard to believe, but uh yeah, it's a it's 0:07:17.880 --> 0:07:20.640 a drink on. She'd really uh put on that dude 0:07:20.640 --> 0:07:23.240 blue and play. I was growing up, I was, I was. 0:07:23.760 --> 0:07:26.000 I really like both teams. I wouldn't say our favorite 0:07:26.040 --> 0:07:27.840 duke O from North Carolina. I just like going to 0:07:27.920 --> 0:07:30.720 the to the tournament games when they were when they're 0:07:30.720 --> 0:07:34.840 in uh Greensboro for the most part, and uh yeah, 0:07:34.880 --> 0:07:39.680 and that was all dude down And speaking of dude, um, 0:07:39.840 --> 0:07:44.000 you get the chance to team up with Kyrie Irvan again, Yeah, 0:07:46.360 --> 0:07:51.000 and totally different spaces of your lives, totally different players 0:07:51.000 --> 0:07:54.600 in your word, Then, what's that been like now? And 0:07:54.640 --> 0:07:57.400 I know it's been a small selfle size is very fresh, 0:07:57.680 --> 0:08:01.160 But what's that been like now coming forth and teammates 0:08:01.200 --> 0:08:04.840 and the NBA it's been greatly Like we only played 0:08:05.040 --> 0:08:09.720 what ten eleven games together in college, obviously with an injury, 0:08:09.760 --> 0:08:16.640 but yeah, I remember that. Yeah, but uh now, yeah, 0:08:16.680 --> 0:08:18.760 I mean it's it's it's been smooth since with the 0:08:18.800 --> 0:08:21.760 ground running. Um, both of us guys obviously high Q 0:08:21.960 --> 0:08:24.320 guys can Burt can do a lot of can play 0:08:24.360 --> 0:08:26.560 on the ball, off the ball. Um, he's a un 0:08:26.640 --> 0:08:28.320 selfish guy. Even though he puts up the scores of 0:08:28.360 --> 0:08:30.440 the ball at a high clip. He'll he'll get a 0:08:30.440 --> 0:08:32.920 ball up and let you play freely. So, UM, we're 0:08:32.960 --> 0:08:34.800 figuring out as we're going along. Obviously our team is 0:08:34.880 --> 0:08:38.240 changing week by week. But um, it's been fun and 0:08:38.360 --> 0:08:40.400 just watching him play, watching him work on this game, 0:08:41.160 --> 0:08:44.200 stay sharp, it's making me better at the same time, 0:08:45.360 --> 0:08:48.960 And and and and Katie as well, like I've I've 0:08:48.960 --> 0:08:52.000 had the opportunity to play with Katie Um. As you know, 0:08:53.760 --> 0:09:01.280 one of I always say Katie is if if somebody 0:09:01.320 --> 0:09:03.760 told you go in the lab and create a player, 0:09:04.840 --> 0:09:08.160 you're going to create somebody who's six ten, that can dribble, 0:09:08.360 --> 0:09:11.560 that can shoot, that's fast, that can jump. You're gonna 0:09:11.600 --> 0:09:16.720 go create Kevin Durant. Like for you, especially with the 0:09:16.800 --> 0:09:18.600 role that you played in the NBA, which I want 0:09:18.640 --> 0:09:20.760 to talk more about, but with the role that you've 0:09:20.800 --> 0:09:22.960 played in the NBA, for you, that gotta be a 0:09:23.000 --> 0:09:25.440 dream come true. I mean teams are sending double teams 0:09:25.440 --> 0:09:28.200 at him, like for you, that gotta be a dream 0:09:28.240 --> 0:09:30.200 come true. And he can pass the ball? What's that 0:09:30.320 --> 0:09:33.520 been like? Building that chemistry with him and just like 0:09:33.679 --> 0:09:36.080 figuring out how he works. I think I think that 0:09:36.120 --> 0:09:38.560 takes him getting used to as well, Like people like 0:09:38.600 --> 0:09:41.080 the way Kate working, the way he approached basketball, It 0:09:41.120 --> 0:09:43.400 takes him getting used to and you could be still 0:09:43.400 --> 0:09:47.240 adjusting to it. Yeah, he's a I mean it's easy 0:09:47.280 --> 0:09:49.600 to me because he's a basketball guy. He loved the game. 0:09:49.640 --> 0:09:53.280 He enjoyed the games. That's what he's all about. So um, 0:09:53.320 --> 0:09:55.680 I think he when you come to the team that 0:09:55.720 --> 0:09:57.839 he's on and he he knows you're you're another guy 0:09:57.880 --> 0:10:00.719 who's a basketball junkie who live for the game, who 0:10:00.880 --> 0:10:02.840 who who has a smart i Q. He gonna he's 0:10:02.840 --> 0:10:06.280 gonna respect you. So um, I feel like, yeah, I'm 0:10:06.280 --> 0:10:08.440 watching him every day, watching this work ethic, which is 0:10:08.800 --> 0:10:10.719 I know you already talked about it a lot of 0:10:10.760 --> 0:10:13.160 times in your podcast, but it's crazy to see him 0:10:13.200 --> 0:10:16.319 work the detail he puts into his his craft on 0:10:16.360 --> 0:10:18.640 a daily basis and see that translate into games. It's 0:10:18.679 --> 0:10:21.160 not like he just a sixteen guy with all the 0:10:21.200 --> 0:10:23.040 talent and he just goes out there and it's it's 0:10:23.400 --> 0:10:25.120 it's gonna be easy for He puts in the work 0:10:25.520 --> 0:10:28.760 and behind closed doors and that that's on display every night. 0:10:28.800 --> 0:10:31.920 So um, it was. It was a little adjustment early 0:10:32.000 --> 0:10:34.280 on playing with him, figuring out his spots, that that 0:10:34.320 --> 0:10:37.080 he likes the ball on, um, figuring out just how 0:10:37.120 --> 0:10:38.760 to play pick and roll with them, things like that. 0:10:39.440 --> 0:10:41.760 But I mean, after a couple of games, has been 0:10:41.800 --> 0:10:44.800 pretty smooth, and I feel like that's that's one of 0:10:44.840 --> 0:10:47.800 my one of one of my good attributes. I played 0:10:47.840 --> 0:10:49.320 with a lot of different types of star players, and 0:10:49.280 --> 0:10:52.160 I've been able to fit in. Well, Um, that's that's 0:10:52.160 --> 0:10:54.800 probably That's that's gonna gonna allow me to have longevit 0:10:54.840 --> 0:10:56.439 in this league, is being able to adapt my game 0:10:56.520 --> 0:10:59.120 to the type of start talent I'm playing with at 0:10:59.120 --> 0:11:02.040 the time. I think, I think especial when you look 0:11:02.080 --> 0:11:08.440 at you play with Luca, Yeah, Steph, Dame, Katie, Kyrie, 0:11:09.600 --> 0:11:15.120 Joel Yeah, yeah, all those types of and they all, 0:11:15.240 --> 0:11:17.080 I mean every time I let they all seemed like 0:11:17.080 --> 0:11:19.280 they really enjoyed playing with me, something I take pride 0:11:19.280 --> 0:11:22.520 in uming I said it before, like a guy like me, 0:11:22.600 --> 0:11:24.880 I'm not I'm gonna be a start to stop playing 0:11:24.880 --> 0:11:26.320 on the team. So for me to make my mark, 0:11:26.360 --> 0:11:29.679 I gotta make the game easier for those guys and 0:11:29.679 --> 0:11:32.120 and and that's that's that's where I've become used to 0:11:35.040 --> 0:11:39.440 speaking of being a star player. Has it ever bothers 0:11:39.440 --> 0:11:42.080 you that your name has never been mentioned in like 0:11:42.840 --> 0:11:46.400 or or like, You've never been top two and most 0:11:46.440 --> 0:11:49.760 improved player, because I think you know when when when 0:11:49.800 --> 0:11:53.520 you look at awards like that, hey, you're averaginging fifteen 0:11:53.559 --> 0:11:56.160 points a game. You went from you went from undrafted 0:11:56.640 --> 0:11:59.880 to average fifteen points, meaningful points a game and the 0:12:00.040 --> 0:12:03.400 starter in the league, and like like in my mind, 0:12:03.520 --> 0:12:06.840 you you you tip the trade like the trade that 0:12:06.880 --> 0:12:09.960 happened with Brooklyn and and the next you you tipped 0:12:10.000 --> 0:12:14.280 that trade Like That's like, I'm sure if I could 0:12:14.280 --> 0:12:16.839 have been in those rooms, that was a huge key 0:12:17.720 --> 0:12:19.480 going on in the trade or whether you was going 0:12:19.520 --> 0:12:21.800 to be involved in the trade or not. For you 0:12:21.880 --> 0:12:24.880 to go from undrafted to where you are in the league. 0:12:24.920 --> 0:12:27.680 You're an asset, You're you're a starter in this league. 0:12:28.120 --> 0:12:31.160 We know what you're bringing on and on most years 0:12:31.160 --> 0:12:33.319 you're leading the league and three point shooting, which three 0:12:33.320 --> 0:12:37.360 point shooting is what runs this NBA right now? Um, 0:12:37.440 --> 0:12:39.640 does it bother you that you've never been in those 0:12:40.640 --> 0:12:43.839 in those conversations, I know it fucking bothers me. Yeah, 0:12:43.840 --> 0:12:45.600 I mean I would like to be in a discussion obviously, 0:12:45.600 --> 0:12:47.840 I don't think. Uh, I mean, how are you gonna 0:12:47.840 --> 0:12:50.040 be recognized for you for what you put in the 0:12:50.080 --> 0:12:52.920 work and how you how you've shown that every year. 0:12:53.040 --> 0:12:55.520 But I think the main reason my just my overall 0:12:55.600 --> 0:12:58.240 county stats hasn't had a huge jump for me of 0:12:58.320 --> 0:13:01.839 the year, I've gotten communtally better every single year. It's 0:13:01.840 --> 0:13:04.760 not like I went and double my numbers um from 0:13:04.800 --> 0:13:07.640 one year to the next. So I mean, I'm incremminately 0:13:07.640 --> 0:13:12.280 getting better. My my uh efficiency is is pretty pretty 0:13:12.320 --> 0:13:14.760 good every every single year, and that's that's what I 0:13:14.760 --> 0:13:16.400 primed myself on. So it's not like I have a 0:13:16.760 --> 0:13:19.360 I think my usage rate just hasn't gone crazy, which 0:13:19.400 --> 0:13:23.120 is the main reason. So, um, just it's just the 0:13:24.120 --> 0:13:26.680 spending because of the role I've been in over over 0:13:26.800 --> 0:13:29.000 certain seasons where I had to jump like that. But 0:13:29.520 --> 0:13:30.880 I mean, I know I am as a player. The 0:13:30.960 --> 0:13:33.920 organizations I've been to, the fan basis know what I 0:13:34.000 --> 0:13:35.680 bring every night, and the people who watch me play 0:13:35.720 --> 0:13:37.920 every night. So I think that's what means the most 0:13:37.960 --> 0:13:42.800 of me. Absolutely. I mean, that's that's definitely a special thing. 0:13:43.200 --> 0:13:44.960 I mean, I guess you makes a great point about 0:13:45.040 --> 0:13:48.040 incrementally getting better, but I still like to look at 0:13:48.080 --> 0:13:51.080 the entire bodies of work as well. Like and I 0:13:51.120 --> 0:13:53.400 also think that you've had years where you went from 0:13:53.440 --> 0:13:57.679 averaging three points to eleven or ten or eleven like that. 0:13:57.760 --> 0:14:01.079 Those are huge jumps, Like that's not easy to do. 0:14:01.200 --> 0:14:05.319 That's that's a totally different player. That's somebody who probably 0:14:06.000 --> 0:14:08.240 end up playing in forty one games in the season, 0:14:08.280 --> 0:14:10.959 forty six games this season and somebody who go to 0:14:11.040 --> 0:14:13.320 playing every single night and producing at that level. So 0:14:13.360 --> 0:14:16.599 I think that's a big Another thing. I think I 0:14:16.720 --> 0:14:19.520 played even better come playoffs, and I think I had 0:14:19.520 --> 0:14:23.840 some some really good playoff moments playoff series. That so 0:14:23.920 --> 0:14:26.800 from like playing the regular season basketball, which is one thing, 0:14:26.880 --> 0:14:29.400 but taking out to another level in the playoffs where 0:14:29.400 --> 0:14:33.000 it's it's a totally different um level of basketball and 0:14:33.520 --> 0:14:36.120 obviously on a bigger stage, and it's harder to play 0:14:36.200 --> 0:14:40.040 well in the playoffs, so um like, So that's that's 0:14:40.080 --> 0:14:44.000 another thing that's it's probably a little under appreciate it absolutely. 0:14:44.320 --> 0:14:47.960 I mean, hey, man, I shoot. I shoot a pretty 0:14:48.040 --> 0:14:50.720 high percentage from three in the playoffs. Man, Everybody tell 0:14:50.800 --> 0:14:56.240 me I can't shoot, but I make them when they matter. So, uh, 0:15:00.160 --> 0:15:04.680 I think and and like I'm with Clutch, So I've 0:15:04.720 --> 0:15:07.960 been that. I've I've had the opportunity to watch Rich work. 0:15:08.120 --> 0:15:12.080 I've had the opportunity, uh Marverage my big brother, Like, 0:15:12.200 --> 0:15:14.120 I've had the opportunity to watch him work and be 0:15:14.160 --> 0:15:18.400 around him. Randy, And you look at those guys and 0:15:18.400 --> 0:15:24.360 how people think because they're like because them and Lebron 0:15:24.520 --> 0:15:27.720 all came up together. That people think just because they 0:15:27.760 --> 0:15:32.160 came up with Lebron, that Rich Paul is who he 0:15:32.320 --> 0:15:34.720 is because he came in with Lebron, that Maverick Carter 0:15:34.880 --> 0:15:36.960 is who he is, that Randy is who he is 0:15:37.000 --> 0:15:40.120 because and the reality is Lebron gave a platform, but 0:15:40.200 --> 0:15:42.840 you have to take advantage of that platform. In turn, 0:15:42.960 --> 0:15:45.840 what people end up doing is they end up using 0:15:45.920 --> 0:15:49.480 Lebron against you, like, oh, well, because he only can 0:15:49.520 --> 0:15:51.520 do that because he got Lebron James. And now you 0:15:51.600 --> 0:15:56.960 have to prove the people you're worth times too on 0:15:57.040 --> 0:16:00.400 what you've already done because people using Lebron jamesing issue. 0:16:01.080 --> 0:16:05.400 I feel like people has used staff against you. Do 0:16:05.520 --> 0:16:07.520 you feel some of that in this league or where 0:16:07.560 --> 0:16:11.760 you've had to like overproducing, over show what you were 0:16:11.800 --> 0:16:16.360 capable of due to stuff being who he is. Oh absolutely, 0:16:16.520 --> 0:16:18.640 I said a lot early on. If I was my 0:16:18.680 --> 0:16:20.320 name was Joe Smith, I would have been in the 0:16:20.400 --> 0:16:25.360 league a long time ago. But I think, like like 0:16:25.360 --> 0:16:28.120 you said, sometimes those those connections and who you can 0:16:28.160 --> 0:16:31.400 get you in the door. But um, it comes to 0:16:31.480 --> 0:16:33.320 time and when you gotta produce every day, you gotta 0:16:33.360 --> 0:16:37.040 bring value what they're gonna get you out of there. So, um, 0:16:37.200 --> 0:16:38.480 like I said, you gotta ask, you got have some 0:16:38.480 --> 0:16:42.040 stuff substances with who you are. You actually those connections 0:16:42.040 --> 0:16:44.880 to grading and being around with people. Obviously learn it 0:16:44.880 --> 0:16:47.640 from Steph being able to ask some questions just following 0:16:47.680 --> 0:16:51.560 his journey and is gives me a huge leg up, 0:16:51.560 --> 0:16:53.720 a benefit because I got a guy who's who's been 0:16:53.720 --> 0:16:55.240 through a lot of the grinds, and I can, like 0:16:55.240 --> 0:16:56.720 I said, I could pick his brain and I can 0:16:56.920 --> 0:17:00.400 more pointly just watch what he doesn't added to myself. 0:17:00.440 --> 0:17:02.920 But um, I gotta mold that to who I am, 0:17:02.960 --> 0:17:05.480 and I gotta I gotta bring value to the team 0:17:05.560 --> 0:17:09.840 or to whatever I'm doing myself. So um, it's it's 0:17:09.840 --> 0:17:11.840 a pros and concept to like you said, to being 0:17:12.359 --> 0:17:19.120 the younger brother Stephana and the son of del absolutely um, 0:17:19.240 --> 0:17:22.680 I mean, yeah, I can see that. But speaking of that, 0:17:23.640 --> 0:17:28.000 obviously the world knows that you're married to CALLI um, 0:17:28.080 --> 0:17:31.760 y'all are the parents are two beautiful children, which obviously 0:17:31.840 --> 0:17:39.200 makes doc yr stepfather, Yeah, stepfather father in law, father 0:17:39.240 --> 0:17:42.240 in law. Did you have any problems separating the two, 0:17:42.440 --> 0:17:45.240 like especially going into the trade, like did that bother 0:17:45.359 --> 0:17:47.320 you that you was being traded away from the team 0:17:47.359 --> 0:17:49.440 that that doctor's coaching or was it just like no, 0:17:49.600 --> 0:17:51.920 that's part of the business for you. Now it's a 0:17:52.000 --> 0:17:54.520 it's a part of the business, man. Um. I know 0:17:54.600 --> 0:17:56.600 he's not pulling the trigger or whatever. He's he's in 0:17:56.640 --> 0:17:58.760 the room that he can give his input, but he's 0:17:58.800 --> 0:18:02.879 not pulling the trigger. Um. But the whole time I 0:18:02.920 --> 0:18:05.160 was there with a smooth selling. I mean we went 0:18:05.200 --> 0:18:07.560 in the gym, it was business as usual. He was 0:18:07.760 --> 0:18:11.240 we had a job to do. Um, Damn. I mean 0:18:11.560 --> 0:18:13.399 Callie didn't want to get traded. She didn't want to 0:18:13.400 --> 0:18:15.840 have to deal with it, uh, playing with playing for 0:18:15.880 --> 0:18:17.719 her father again. Obviously she dealt with it for a 0:18:17.720 --> 0:18:20.280 long time with her brother. Um that's provenly and all 0:18:20.320 --> 0:18:23.640 the all the stress that went along with that. So um, 0:18:23.800 --> 0:18:25.399 there's a there's a different situation. But it was it 0:18:25.440 --> 0:18:28.800 was smooth selling doc, great culture that had great time 0:18:28.880 --> 0:18:30.840 playing for him. But when it was time to move on. 0:18:31.000 --> 0:18:33.800 Is it's a it's a business. I understand it. And 0:18:33.840 --> 0:18:38.399 you go something else and you do your job there. Absolutely, 0:18:38.440 --> 0:18:42.880 And speaking of speaking to CALLI and your dynamic, talk 0:18:42.960 --> 0:18:45.000 to me about being a father, man. I know, for me, 0:18:45.119 --> 0:18:48.320 it's been like it's been a total it's been a 0:18:48.359 --> 0:18:53.160 total reset for me, like and having kids and what 0:18:53.240 --> 0:18:58.840 matters and selflessness like learned. I mean, we're truly learned 0:18:58.920 --> 0:19:03.840 how to be selfless. Um, I think those are those 0:19:03.880 --> 0:19:05.840 were some of the biggest adjustments for me. Talk to 0:19:05.880 --> 0:19:08.040 me about being a father and what that brings to 0:19:08.080 --> 0:19:11.040 you on the daily. That's great, the best thing ever. Man. 0:19:11.359 --> 0:19:14.159 You already know, like it's it brings peace when you 0:19:14.240 --> 0:19:17.159 come in the household. You it's so much stressing and 0:19:17.160 --> 0:19:21.000 stuff to come along with the job when you're coming home. 0:19:21.440 --> 0:19:24.240 It's most of the times this piece is being around 0:19:24.280 --> 0:19:26.879 your kids, watching them grow up every day, trying to 0:19:26.880 --> 0:19:29.200 mold them into the people, uh that they should be. 0:19:29.760 --> 0:19:32.680 And for me, it's a it's just it's a learning process. Man. 0:19:32.720 --> 0:19:38.120 I watched I was got three uh or nieces and nephews. Um, 0:19:38.280 --> 0:19:41.160 so I watched the way Stephen and I used your 0:19:41.160 --> 0:19:43.920 parents and kind of took some notes. But once once 0:19:43.920 --> 0:19:45.520 I have my own kids, those kind of went out 0:19:45.560 --> 0:19:48.480 the window. Men. You gotta learn and do it your 0:19:48.480 --> 0:19:51.560 own way. So uh yeah, my daughter actually, just like 0:19:51.640 --> 0:19:55.000 my wife, a lot of energy talking up with storm. 0:19:55.040 --> 0:19:57.120 My son is like me, just be chilling, don't say 0:19:57.119 --> 0:20:00.159 a word, um, easy going. So it's it's fun how 0:20:00.200 --> 0:20:05.520 that works out. That's hilarious. Callie has to be one 0:20:05.560 --> 0:20:09.440 of the most competitive people I've ever met in my life, right, Yeah, 0:20:09.760 --> 0:20:12.000 I mean between Pelotone. She thinks she can beat me 0:20:12.000 --> 0:20:15.359 at pelotone. She thinks, I don't know, she probably do 0:20:15.440 --> 0:20:20.760 be being you on pelotone. She to she she close, 0:20:20.920 --> 0:20:24.720 but she she messing with me on the Pelotonic. Nah, no, sir, 0:20:25.960 --> 0:20:28.880 you recently just did something with peloton, didn't you. Yeah. 0:20:28.880 --> 0:20:30.800 I had a little deal with Pelotona a couple of 0:20:30.800 --> 0:20:33.439 months ago. Have my mom was a captain in one 0:20:33.440 --> 0:20:36.040 of the classes with Alex Tucson. Yeah, it was. It 0:20:36.080 --> 0:20:40.119 was a dope, dope experience. That's fire. I wish. I 0:20:40.160 --> 0:20:42.199 think when I saw that y'all were doing that, my 0:20:42.240 --> 0:20:44.480 back's messed up. I haven't been on the peloton since 0:20:44.520 --> 0:20:48.000 December because I haven't been able to rid because, um, 0:20:48.160 --> 0:20:50.520 like they don't want me in a slouse position because 0:20:50.520 --> 0:20:52.399 I would have loved to do that. That's dope. But 0:20:52.480 --> 0:20:56.520 speaking to Callie, man like, tell me more about these 0:20:56.560 --> 0:20:58.880 debates y'all be having brothers. I didn't got a text 0:20:58.880 --> 0:21:01.399 a couple of times like I said this, what do 0:21:01.480 --> 0:21:04.080 you think? And I'm like, I think I might have 0:21:04.119 --> 0:21:05.679