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Speaker 1: Welcome to jag Zam.

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Speaker 2: I'm kind Honnie Stevensprian Sex, and John Oser with me

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Speaker 2: today on Thanksgiving Week, So we're gonna do a little

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Speaker 2: bit of Titans prep early as we get ready for

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Speaker 2: the Jaguars trip to Nashville this weekend. We're gonna start

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Speaker 2: out with our three big Things for you today, brought

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Speaker 2: to you by de EH Government Employee Health Association. Big

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Speaker 2: Thing Number one is it's Rivalry Week. Brian. The Titans

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Speaker 2: are not good this season. They're going through a lot

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Speaker 2: in Tennessee, but it's still the Titans, right it is.

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Speaker 3: Listen. It goes back to opening Day nineteen ninety five,

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Speaker 3: in your first game when they were the Oilers, and

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Speaker 3: they beat you ten to three, and they kept you

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Speaker 3: in your best season nineteen ninety nine, from going to

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Speaker 3: your first Super Bowl. Right. They knocked you most recently

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Speaker 3: out of the playoffs in twenty twenty three, when you

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Speaker 3: had a chance to beat them when they weren't good,

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Speaker 3: and they still found a way to do what they do,

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Speaker 3: which is beat you. They've played sixty games more than

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Speaker 3: any other team, so it is fair to say that

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Speaker 3: this is the Jaguars rival even though most fans still

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Speaker 3: kind of cling to that Steelers thing because that was

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Speaker 3: so hot and heated back in the nineties and early

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Speaker 3: two thousands.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, it's everything. On top of that, it's

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Speaker 4: one where the Titans have a chance to put a

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Speaker 4: real Danton what the Jaguars are trying to do. So

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Speaker 4: rivals at some point have to do that to each other.

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Speaker 4: That's the theme for the Titans this week. I'm sure

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Speaker 4: it's a tougher game, guys than the schedule. I mean,

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Speaker 4: not than the records indicate.

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Speaker 2: Let's go to our second big thing today, which is

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Speaker 2: going to be a new standard. After they beat the

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Speaker 2: Chargers in dominant fashion, head coach Liam Collen came out

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Speaker 2: that it's the new standard for this football team. This

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Speaker 2: is what we are capable of. We saw back and

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Speaker 2: forth kind of affair in Arizona with the records as

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Speaker 2: they are. What would do you imagine Cohen's going to

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Speaker 2: want to see against the Titans on Sunday win?

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Speaker 4: I mean, and I want to say that because that's

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Speaker 4: how this team has gotten to this point. They've had

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Speaker 4: a couple of one sided wins, but for the most

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Speaker 4: part it has been scraping it out. Yes, I would

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Speaker 4: love to see, and I think go On would love

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Speaker 4: to see a solid win where you're up a little

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Speaker 4: bit at the half and then you sort of pull

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Speaker 4: steadily away against a team that had fight, Because I

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Speaker 4: think the Titans will have a fight at some point.

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Speaker 4: You need to start winning those in that way. But Ryan,

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Speaker 4: it's hard to do when you had the two combinations

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Speaker 4: of division game and you're playing that team at their house.

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Speaker 4: Don't be surprised if this is close, if only for

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Speaker 4: those two reasons.

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Speaker 3: You know. I don't want to parse words or split

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Speaker 3: hairs with the coach because he's seven and four and

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Speaker 3: he's done a hell of a job this year, so

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Speaker 3: he's right. But I think what he meant in the

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Speaker 3: locker room after the Chargers wasn't we're gonna beat everybody resoundingly,

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Speaker 3: but we're gonna win. So I think the standard kai

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Speaker 3: for this team is win however you can. That's really

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Speaker 3: what this is. The Jaguars are a team that's won

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Speaker 3: close games twice in the last four games. They had

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Speaker 3: to go to overtime and find a way to win

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Speaker 3: with a batted ball. My whole thought on this thing

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Speaker 3: is the Jaguars are a team that'll beat you pretty,

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Speaker 3: they'll beat you ugly. They'll just line up and beat you.

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Speaker 3: That's the standard.

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Speaker 1: Find a way.

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Speaker 2: Our final big thing today is going to be perfect timing.

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Speaker 2: We talked a lot about finding ways to win the

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Speaker 2: past couple of weeks, but they've also had a lot

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Speaker 2: coming back around this time. We don't have a ton

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Speaker 2: of updates yet because they'll be more closer to game

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Speaker 2: time decisions, but hopefully Brian Thomas Junior will be back

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Speaker 2: soon and now it could be a time in the

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Speaker 1: Brian.

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Speaker 3: You know Trevor has settled in with Jacobe Myers in

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Speaker 3: the span of just a few games at Parker Washington.

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Speaker 3: I think is your MVP. The way that he is

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Speaker 3: his best football of the season. He's not going to

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Speaker 3: very important role, especially with Brenton strangeback John to have

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Speaker 4: Look, they have to lean toward reliability and trust, and

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Speaker 4: I think Trevor has trust in Parker Washington, Brenton Strange

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Speaker 4: in the offense. You know, I'm not saying this to

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Speaker 4: do that. Where he fits in, I think it will

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Speaker 4: be deep. I think they'll find ways to get him

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Speaker 4: he's gonna be the one, he has to earn that back.

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Speaker 1: All right, stay with us here on Jagszam. Coming up.

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Speaker 2: We'll have a little this or that, and we'll also

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Speaker 2: talk about what Jags fans are thankful for this thanksgiving.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back into Jags Am.

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Speaker 2: It's Thanksgiving tomorrow, so we're being a little thankful today

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Speaker 2: and we're bringing up some things DAGs fans should be

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Speaker 2: thankful for, and one of them is sideline oxygen tanks

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Speaker 2: because Devin Lloyd had to run about one hundred yards

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Speaker 2: against the Chiefs to get a touchdown. Now, he did

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Speaker 2: tell me afterwards he didn't think it does anything, so

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Speaker 2: he's a little upset, but the longest he's run in

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Speaker 2: quite some time. So we were thankful for that. And

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Speaker 2: I'm definitely thankful for that play because I felt like

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Speaker 2: a really I think when we look back on the season,

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Speaker 2: that's a very charged moment and it kind of got

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Speaker 2: the belief going. When you can see that finally over

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Speaker 2: the hump and get a win against the Chiefs.

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Speaker 3: I don't think there's a lot of argument on the part.

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Speaker 3: That's your signature win right Monday night football against the

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Speaker 3: defending AFC champions, and that's the defining play of the

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the four and one start was you know, a

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, let's talk a little bit about that. Right now.

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Speaker 2: The division's kind of a three horse race at this point,

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Speaker 2: one game separating. The Cults are in first place and

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Speaker 2: the Jags and then the Texans at this point, so

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Speaker 2: we still have two more games against the Colts coming up,

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Speaker 2: but the Texans are still very much in the mix

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Speaker 2: when you're looking at this game next week, because they're

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Speaker 2: going to play each other excuse me the week after.

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Speaker 2: But when we're looking at the competition within the division,

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Speaker 2: who's the biggest concern for you right now?

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Speaker 3: Brian, Well, you've got the number one run defense, which

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Speaker 3: I think will be very helpful for you when you

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Speaker 3: go and you play the Colts and you've got two

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Speaker 3: at this point. I mean, that's what's right in front

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Speaker 3: the Texans. They're behind your game, you keep winning, no

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Speaker 4: Well, if you just win, you don't worry about anybody

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Speaker 4: because if you just win, you're going to pass both

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Speaker 4: and you're gonna keep them in the rearview.

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Speaker 1: I got a question this week.

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Speaker 3: You know, who do I.

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Speaker 4: Think has the advantage in the division? Between the three teams,

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Speaker 4: It's gonna be tight. I mean, it's the the Jags

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Speaker 4: play the Colts twice, the Colts play the Texans twice.

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Speaker 4: Nothing's been decided, and I'm not sure there's a whole

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Speaker 4: the Texans are really good defensively, and they've won what's

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Speaker 4: more concerned about the Texans because I can't control what

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Speaker 4: they do. You can go beat the Colts and the Texans.

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Speaker 4: They're tough, the two TI division champions. I'm kinda I

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Speaker 4: would like to see the cole twin this week against

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Speaker 4: the Texans because they then if the Jaguars win, you

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Speaker 2: All right, we'll talk a little bit more about the

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Speaker 2: division coming up. Let's talk a little bit about two

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Speaker 2: of the best players we've seen so far this season,

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Speaker 2: because they're both from Penn State. So we'll give some

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Speaker 2: credit to Penn Staters top cats. Here, who's the most

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Speaker 2: important player to the offense right now or to the team.

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Speaker 1: Let's put that way.

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Speaker 3: Parker Washington right now is my MVP. He's your leading

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Speaker 3: he's made clutch catches right the one for the go ahead,

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Speaker 4: So I'll say Washington, Yeah, I mean you have to

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Speaker 4: go with Parker because Brenton's only played what four or

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Speaker 4: five games, But I don't know that you're seven and

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Speaker 4: four without either of them, And I think down the

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Speaker 4: I'm not sure they win that game the other day

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Speaker 3: So I'll go as strange.

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Speaker 4: As we get toward the playoffs because I think he's

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Speaker 4: gonna help them significantly in the run game. I think

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Speaker 4: I mean, now leading receiver. I asked somebody, I said,

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Speaker 4: you know, we've all talked about Brenton as like maybe

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Speaker 4: the best run blocking tight end of the league. By

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Speaker 4: the end of the season, he may be up there

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Speaker 3: He's really good.

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Speaker 2: I think what's cool about both of them is they both,

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Speaker 2: you know, have an effect on significant two different parts.

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Speaker 2: Parker in the offense, but also on special teams. He's

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Speaker 2: been made some huge plays and really shifted games with

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Speaker 4: They're both talented, and they're both long term guys around here.

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Speaker 4: I mean, they're gonna be here a lot. So you're

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Speaker 4: three or four years, I think.

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Speaker 3: And Washington is a guy that has been up until

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Speaker 4: But that's really tough to go to Seattle and win

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Speaker 3: Well, listen, it's the biggest Division game that they will

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Speaker 1: But it's definitely the biggest one for the point is

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Speaker 3: He got one carry. If you stop Jonathan Taylor and

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Speaker 3: If the Colts win the division and are hosting a.

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Speaker 1: Home playoff game, it's gonna be a big one.

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Speaker 2: Thankful for the bleep button around here because Liam Cohen's

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Speaker 3: Without a doubt, he is energetic.

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Speaker 3: He he's the guy.

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Speaker 2: All right, We're extra thankful around here to be at

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