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Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox

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Speaker 1: Sports Radio Row Afternoon. Chris Mannox will join us in

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Speaker 1: a little bit. We'll talk to Jim Beyheim and his

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Speaker 1: son Buddy Buckets Beyheim a little bit later on, and

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Speaker 1: the great actor from The Big Bang Theory, Jim Parsons

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Speaker 1: will join us. He is leading our celebrity bracket challenge.

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Speaker 1: I watched basketball yesterday. Yesterday afternoon, watch basketball. It was great.

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Speaker 1: I watched Iowa versus Kentucky women's basketball. If you haven't

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Speaker 1: seen Caitlyn Clark, do yourself a favor. Watch her with

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Speaker 1: their next game, the Sweet sixteen as she goes up

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Speaker 1: against another great freshman page backers at Yukon. A lot

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Speaker 1: of fun both of them and up for player of

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Speaker 1: the Year as freshman. But it was a clinic that

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Speaker 1: Caitlin Clark put on. She let everybody know she can

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Speaker 1: do everything, and she probably could have had as many

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Speaker 1: points as she wanted to against Kentucky. She ended up

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Speaker 1: with thirty five points yesterday. But back and forth, up

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Speaker 1: and down the floor, offense, defense, great passer, deep range,

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Speaker 1: and that should be a wonderful matchup against you. I

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Speaker 1: was not going to have the same kind of talent,

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Speaker 1: firepower that Yukon does all around, but Caitlyn Clark can

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Speaker 1: go up against anybody in the country. Paige Beckers is

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Speaker 1: a wonderful player as well. Probably seen more of her

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Speaker 1: though because Connecticut the women's basketball games are more readily available.

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Speaker 1: But watching yesterday, it was just fun. It's just fun

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Speaker 1: watching basketball and you're watching some really really skilled players. Yes, Polly,

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Speaker 1: you know you talked about for years the Steph Curry effect.

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Speaker 1: And I watched an entire Iowa women's basketball game last night.

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Speaker 1: First time watching this young lady, Caitlyn Clark play. That's

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Speaker 1: the Steph Curry effect. She's taking off balance shots from

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Speaker 1: twenty four feet, She's taking shots when she's open at

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Speaker 1: twenty six feet, not waiting till you know, twenty feet,

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Speaker 1: and when you're watching, like, oh, this is the Steph

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Speaker 1: Curry effect, and it's it's all over the play. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they're two really good all around players. But uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, Page came in as maybe the top recruit

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Speaker 1: coming in her freshman year, but Caitlyn Clark out of

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Speaker 1: Iowa was somebody who was a great score in high school.

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Speaker 1: But it was fun. It was just fun to watch basketball,

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Speaker 1: and I'm watching yesterday and I text Paulie. I gave

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Speaker 1: him a screenshot and he goes, what are you watching?

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Speaker 1: I go Iowa in Kentucky, of course, and he had

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Speaker 1: mentioned that his daughter saw Caitlyn Clark play in the

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Speaker 1: previous game, and that might have been against Central Michigan.

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Speaker 1: But it was just good. It's just fun basketball, and uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, pick roll, get the ball, nice bounce pass,

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Speaker 1: deep threes, fun basketball. And you can definitely tell the

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Speaker 1: impact of Steph Curry on basketball in general because these

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Speaker 1: are deep three these aren't. She shot one that was

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Speaker 1: just inside the logo. That's deep. It's deep for anybody.

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Speaker 1: But it was fun. I look forward to that game

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Speaker 1: and a matchup the Sweet sixteen that'll be coming up

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Speaker 1: on Saturday. All right, Well, come up with a poll question.

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Speaker 1: Play of the day. We got a stat of the day.

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Speaker 1: I told you who's on the program. The NBA has

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Speaker 1: one of the better trade deadlines in sports, and not

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Speaker 1: necessarily because anything's going to happen, but it's just a

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Speaker 1: great excuse to talk about the state of the league.

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Speaker 1: And if you're a team like the seventy sixers or

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Speaker 1: the Heat, you really have to make a serious assessment

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Speaker 1: of your team, like where do you stand before Thursday's

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Speaker 1: trade deadline at three eastern? Are you one move away?

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Speaker 1: The Heat? Are looking at Kyle Lowry, the seventy sixers

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Speaker 1: looking at Kyle Lowry. Where do you stand with the Nets?

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Speaker 1: Where do you stand with the Lakers? What kind of

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Speaker 1: shape are the Lakers in? Wens? Anthony Davis back? How

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Speaker 1: long is leb I'm going to be out? What position

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Speaker 1: are they going to be in seeding wise? Kevin Durant

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Speaker 1: whence he come back? And then there's always the question

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Speaker 1: of Kyrie Irving. And we've seen deals that proved to

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Speaker 1: be really important when it comes to winning a championship.

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Speaker 1: Palga Saw and Rashid Wallace come to mind. They were

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Speaker 1: traded around this time eventually helped win titles. I don't

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Speaker 1: know if that's going to happen with Aaron Gordon or

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Speaker 1: Kyle Lowring. But it's still a great time to gear

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Speaker 1: up and get excited about the rest of the NBA season.

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Speaker 1: And I know that we rank. I try not to,

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Speaker 1: but others rank who's your MVP right now? And we

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Speaker 1: might find out that Joe lmb by not playing is

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Speaker 1: the MVP or Lebron not playing is the real MVP.

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Speaker 1: There's a chance that Lonzo Ball is going to get traded,

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Speaker 1: could be to Philadelphia if they don't get Kyle Lowry.

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Speaker 1: It could be the Clippers, could be another team in there.

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Speaker 1: And I'm negative towards you know, LaVar Ball, because dad

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Speaker 1: never really accomplished anything as an athlete. But he wants

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Speaker 1: And I will say this about Lonzo Ball. I was

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Speaker 1: critical of him. I love him as a player, but

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Speaker 1: I'm critical of him when it comes to that open jumper.

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Speaker 1: You could see him freeze and he has to work

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Speaker 1: on this. How he did not work on this, I'll

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Speaker 1: never know. But he has worked on this to improve

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Speaker 1: his game. He's a good player and if he's if

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Speaker 1: he can get past that mental hurdle, he's going to

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Speaker 1: be a very valuable player. Now he's overshadowed by his brother,

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Speaker 1: but and rightfully so, but Lonzo has put in the

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Speaker 1: work to become a better player, and usually when you

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Speaker 1: get to the pros, you don't always get that with players.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes you get there and then you stop. He's worked

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Speaker 1: he passes, but he needed to improve and he has.

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Speaker 1: Like he is. He's a legitimate shooter now, not great,

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Speaker 1: not even very good, maybe not even good, but just

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Speaker 1: be consistent. If you can get him, you know, in

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Speaker 1: get maybe thirty five thirty six percent from three point range.

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Speaker 1: He just needs to be a weapon. And as much

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Speaker 1: as I'm critical of his father, uh, you know what

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Speaker 1: his two sons that are in the NBA have done,

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Speaker 1: they are really good players. Yeah, pau Dan, his stats

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Speaker 1: are way up. He's twenty three years old. His rookie year,

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Speaker 1: he shot thirty six percent. He's up to forty three percent,

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Speaker 1: which is serviceable. His three point percentage is now at

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Speaker 1: thirty nine percent. Again, that's that's not bad at all.

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Speaker 1: It's not bad at all. And he's shooting eight threes

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Speaker 1: a volume guy. His free throw percentage it which was

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Speaker 1: forty five percent as a rookie forty one percent. A

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Speaker 1: second year is up to seventy seven percent. Again, seventy

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Speaker 1: seven percent. You can play point guard in the league

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Speaker 1: all I want, Yes, Because I can't have you be

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Speaker 1: my point guard. I can't have my point guard as

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Speaker 1: a liability. I have to take him out at the

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Speaker 1: end of games. I just can't have them. But seventy

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Speaker 1: just has to continue to have those grow. Yeah, McLevin,

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Speaker 1: but you watch them play. His guy is on Zion.

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Speaker 1: Of course he's shooting thirty percent for three. He's never

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Speaker 1: So I don't know, because I'm scouting him for my Sixers.

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Speaker 1: Is that enough of a three point I know he's

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Speaker 1: much better, but is that still enough to win a title?

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Speaker 1: When your league guards, well, the Sixers on a three

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Speaker 1: point shooting team, right, So why at him? I feel

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Speaker 1: of wondering. Well, I wondered about JJ Reddick because they're

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Speaker 1: Reddick could go back to Philadelphia. But you know, Mannix

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Speaker 1: will know about this. I just think Lonzo Ball sort

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Speaker 1: of got left left behind. He's only twenty three, but

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Speaker 1: he's a valuable player. And at that he sees the floor.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they're just players who understand the game. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I'm watching yesterday with you know, Caitlyn Clark. She sees

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Speaker 1: the floor, that's all. She sees the game differently than

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Speaker 1: other people do. And there are a lot of players

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Speaker 1: They see the floor, their head is up when they're dribbling.

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Speaker 1: They're always looking looking, looking looking, And I just wanted

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Speaker 1: to make mention of that he might be traded. Looks

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Speaker 1: like he's going to be traded. I don't think he's

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Speaker 1: staying in New Orleans. His dad, of course, got involved

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Speaker 1: I do think he'll be a valuable addition to somebody

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Speaker 1: come playoff time. Yeah, Polly, did you watch the Lakers

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Speaker 1: last night? The G League. That's a tough watch. That

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Speaker 1: the Lakers can beat anybody, and once the playoffs start,

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Speaker 1: if everybody everybody's healthy, well you're gonna be playing all

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Speaker 1: those road games. You're not in New Bubble anymore. You're

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Speaker 1: know you don't want to be in a play in game.

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Speaker 1: You know you don't want to be down there. You know,

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Speaker 1: seven eight seed. But I don't know how long these

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Speaker 1: By the way, I don't know if anybody has noticed

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Speaker 1: can only name two Phoenix Suns and you might forget

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Speaker 1: that Chris Paul is one of those. But he's been

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Speaker 1: great Devin Booker, DeAndre Ayton. I mean, the Phoenix Suns

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Speaker 1: That sort of takes away. You know, Mannox is going

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Speaker 1: to join us and he wants to tell me Rudy

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Speaker 1: Gobert should be mentioned for MVP. Okay, Like how many

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Speaker 1: people are going to be mentioned for MVP? Like ten?

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Speaker 1: How about we just limit it, limit it to five?

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Speaker 1: Just give me five who could win the MVP. And

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Speaker 1: it's a silly argument now because it changes. You know

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Speaker 1: that Joker had another triple double last night. Well, okay,

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Speaker 1: Harden was wonderful last night, like he had seventeen assists.

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Speaker 1: This is fluid, but we I think what you know,

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Speaker 1: people run out of things to talk about. It's like,

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Speaker 1: what can we talk about? How about MVP? Okay, we'll

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Speaker 1: do that. Yeah, Paul, I thought about this Rudy Gobert

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Speaker 1: remember how the NBA stopped last year. Rudy Gobert's place

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Speaker 1: in it yeah, I think I'm kind of rooting for

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Speaker 1: him to win the MVP. So in the first paragraph

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Speaker 1: of his bio, when he retires as former MVP Rudy Gobert,

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Speaker 1: who also was when the league paused, blah blah blah,

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Speaker 1: maybe first paragraph would be MVP, second paragraph would be

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Speaker 1: all the other stuff. There was also another story yesterday,

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Speaker 1: and it had to do with Draymond Green. Draymond Green

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Speaker 1: talking about that he's the best defender of all time.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm fine with him having that belief. He's not.

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Speaker 1: with a poll question today. Paulie said that he wanted

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Speaker 1: Sports Illustrated NBA senior writer joining us on the program. Mannix,

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Speaker 1: How are you today? A little stomach churning Dan Mayo

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Speaker 1: is discussed. It is like I wouldn't like I mean,

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Speaker 1: I'm a big tuna fish eater, but I'll eat it

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Speaker 1: dry at all times before I put Mayo in that mix.

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Speaker 1: Same thing with with lobster rolls. I mean hell no

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Speaker 1: with Mayo, no, it's hell Men's no either way. Gross.

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Speaker 1: All right, Well, thanks for coming on, Chris. That's all

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Speaker 1: I wanted to talk to you about. Uh. I thought

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Speaker 1: Draymond Green accomplished what Draymond Green wanted to do, and

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Speaker 1: that is he loves to troll people. And you know

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Speaker 1: him and Tony Allen going back and forth as to

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Speaker 1: who's the greatest defender. Um, those guys aren't even in,

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Speaker 1: you know, in the conversation. But Draymond is a really

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Speaker 1: good player. Um. I don't know where you would put

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Speaker 1: him as great defender of all time, but I might

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Speaker 1: as I just spent you know, ten minutes talking about it,

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Speaker 1: so I might as well let you address it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, you're right. He accomplished exactly what he set

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Speaker 1: out to accomplish, which was to set social media a

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Speaker 1: blaze with the conversation. Uh, Tony Allen gets roped into it.

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Speaker 1: But I think the only way you could have this

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Speaker 1: discussion is to talk about generations, right. I mean, maybe

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Speaker 1: Draymond Green is the best defender of this generation. He

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Speaker 1: is certainly the most versatile defender, better than Kawhi Leonard.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I liked how Draymond could guard basically two

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Speaker 1: to five for a period of time. There was like

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Speaker 1: a three year stretch he could do that. So it's

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Speaker 1: it's it's right there. But then you go back and

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Speaker 1: you talk about Matumbo and Gary Payton, and you go

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Speaker 1: back even further and it's the Bill Russell discussion, which

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Speaker 1: I think is where it stops. So, I you know,

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Speaker 1: look at Draymond is one of certainly, but it's hard

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Speaker 1: to point him at the top. Uh. Yeah, I'm with

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Speaker 1: you on that. I Russell, with Kiemallie, you on Tim Duncan,

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Speaker 1: great defender, Pip and Jordan. You know, there's so many great,

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Speaker 1: great players um, you know, but his Seaton pointed out,

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Speaker 1: you could use you could hand check back. Then, you know,

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Speaker 1: Draymond is playing in an arrow where you can't really

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Speaker 1: use your hands on anybody. But I would probably look

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Speaker 1: at Kawi's I remember, Dad, I remember back in the

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Speaker 1: day when I was working with the Celtics in the

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Speaker 1: nineties and I ran into Russell, you know, one day

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Speaker 1: of the rare appearance he had in Boston, this subject

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Speaker 1: kind of came up, where, you know, was he being

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Speaker 1: discounted as a great defender because the era he played in.

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Speaker 1: Russell always said, he said, you know, Shack was the

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Speaker 1: guy he'd have a problem with because the Shack's just

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Speaker 1: raw size. He's like anybody else I could handle. I

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Speaker 1: could defend anybody else in this league from whatever generation

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Speaker 1: you're talking about. That's how confident Russell was in his

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Speaker 1: own defensive abilities. All right, let's dive into it. I

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Speaker 1: know you're trying to make a case because I guess

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Speaker 1: there's fifty eight guys who are up for the MVP

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Speaker 1: in the NBA, So the floor is yours, your latest

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Speaker 1: MVP candidate, is I mean, your hatred for all things French,

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Speaker 1: notwithstanding Rudy Gobert is certainly making I think a strong

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Speaker 1: case to be in consideration for MVP. And I put

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Speaker 1: this on Twitter the other night. Of course, you get

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Speaker 1: ratioed left and right by people that are saying he's

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Speaker 1: not even the best center in his division was Nicole

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Speaker 1: Yokich is certainly there, But I just get I'm tired of,

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Speaker 1: like everybody, looking at raw numbers. I mean, Rudy Gobert

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Speaker 1: is so much better than his numbers. I mean I

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Speaker 1: tweeted that after the Chicago game where Rudy went for

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Speaker 1: what twenty you know, almost a triple double with blocks

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Speaker 1: in there, and was just this presence every minute he

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Speaker 1: was on the floor. I mean, he is, with all

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Speaker 1: due respect to Ben Simmons, the defensive player of the year,

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Speaker 1: and I think it's a pretty wide gap. And offensively,

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Speaker 1: you know, you and I had this debate last time,

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Speaker 1: but he springs everybody on that Jazz team with his

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Speaker 1: screen setting. So as far as impactful players on both

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Speaker 1: ends of the floor, you know, Rudy Gobert is right

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Speaker 1: up there with the most impactful on both ends. I'm

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to vote for him. I don't think

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Speaker 1: for MVP because I think there are better players in

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Speaker 1: that mix, but Kenny finished top five. I think that's possible.

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Speaker 1: I don't think you can go to bad for him

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Speaker 1: on a social platform and then say you're not voting

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Speaker 1: for him. If the season ended today, where does Rudy

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Speaker 1: Gobert end up on your ballot? Somewhere between five and seven?

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Speaker 1: Right now? Right? But why why am I having you

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Speaker 1: on to talk about this? Because I didn't say he

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Speaker 1: was the MVP. I said he should be in the

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Speaker 1: mix for m People get a lot of people. How

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Speaker 1: many guys are in the mix for MVP? Chris? Can

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Speaker 1: we stop this? It feels like it. It grows exponentially.

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Speaker 1: Now there's fifteen guys that you can say that's because Dan.

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Speaker 1: The calculus keeps changing, right Like Joel Embiid was the

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Speaker 1: front runner for an extended period of time and then

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Speaker 1: he goes down with injury. Lebron James looked like the

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Speaker 1: front runner, but he could be out until mid April,

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Speaker 1: which changes the dynamic. If Rudy Gobert stays healthy and

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Speaker 1: plays the rest of the season, you can certainly make

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Speaker 1: an argument that he should be considered MVP. I actually

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Speaker 1: think and I'm gonna write this next week. But I

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Speaker 1: think this is an even stronger argument they you should

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Speaker 1: give it to Yannis for a third year in a row.

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Speaker 1: Look at what he's doing right now. He's out with

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Speaker 1: a minor knee injury. But I mean, you know, the

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Speaker 1: numbers are largely the same from last year, and if

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Speaker 1: that Bucks team finishes with the best record in the East,

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Speaker 1: which is certainly possible, I don't want to hear about

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Speaker 1: voter fatigue with Yannis. He might deserve a third MP. Well, no,

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Speaker 1: this just has to do with and it shouldn't what

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Speaker 1: they have not done in the postseason. If the Bucks

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Speaker 1: won the title last year and Jannis was still it

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Speaker 1: was having this season, then I think the voters would

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Speaker 1: look at him differently. You don't even hear Yannis's name

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Speaker 1: with the top MVP candidates. We're going out of our way.

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Speaker 1: That's bad on the voters, though, Dan like, that's bad

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Speaker 1: on the voters who again, I think it's voter fatigue,

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Speaker 1: who are just looking like I don't want to vote

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Speaker 1: for Yannis Again, there's only a handful of guys that

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Speaker 1: have won three MVPs in a row. Jannis doesn't deserve

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Speaker 1: to be in that rarefied air now, it's all in

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Speaker 1: a vacuum. It's based on the regular season, and I

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Speaker 1: think you're going to have a hard time saying that

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Speaker 1: there are better players then Janni's having a regular season

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Speaker 1: trade deadline. Well, let me start with the Lakers here

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Speaker 1: with a D and Lebron still out. What are that?

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Speaker 1: What's the risk that they're running here? And can they

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Speaker 1: do it? Will they do anything at the trade deadline?

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Speaker 1: I don't believe they do anything at the trade deadline

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Speaker 1: because I mean, they don't have a lot of assets

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Speaker 1: to deal anyway. They've shipped out many of their draft

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Speaker 1: picks in previous trades, and the one guy teams want,

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Speaker 1: Horton Tucker, is the player the Lakers are not going

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Speaker 1: to deal right now. Right now, it's just kind of

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Speaker 1: bite down and see if you can get one win

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Speaker 1: out of every four and keep yourself in the mix

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Speaker 1: until Lebron and Ad come back. I watched that at

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Speaker 1: least the first three quarters of that Pelican's game last night.

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Speaker 1: I turned it off and it was like one oh

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Speaker 1: two to seventy something at the end of the third quarter.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's just it's gonna get ugly in Los

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Speaker 1: Angeles over these next few weeks, and they've just got

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Speaker 1: a hope that they stay inside that top eight in

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Speaker 1: time for Lebron and Ad to come back. And look,

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Speaker 1: as long as those two back in mid April, that

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Speaker 1: gives them, you know, three or four weeks to climb

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Speaker 1: back up in the standing. So I'm not yet concerned

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Speaker 1: about them missing the playoffs, but it is going to

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Speaker 1: be a really ugly next few weeks in LA because

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Speaker 1: they don't do anything well, you know, you know, I

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Speaker 1: think there's still the number one defensive team in the

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Speaker 1: league statistically, but they're not a good defense, and offensively,

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Speaker 1: they're just mixing and matching guys out there. So I

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Speaker 1: think it's gonna be a tough, tough stretch for the Lakers.

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Speaker 1: And then it comes to marquee names, Aaron Gordon, Kyle

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Speaker 1: Lowry feels like that's about it. Both going to be moved. Well,

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Speaker 1: it's pretty clear at this point that Aaron Gordon is

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Speaker 1: going to be moved. I think Boston and Denver are

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Speaker 1: two of the leading contenders right now for Gordon, and

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Speaker 1: it's just going to come down to to you know,

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Speaker 1: it really comes down to what Orlando is going to

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Speaker 1: accept right now. There's a gap in what teams are

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Speaker 1: offering and what the Magic want to get back. But

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Speaker 1: I think that GAP's gonna be closed before Thursday afternoon,

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Speaker 1: So I think moves Evan Fourgia, his teammate I think

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Speaker 1: is going to move with him when that deal ultimately happens. Oladipo,

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Speaker 1: I think the Knick's interest in Oladipo is vastly overstated.

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Speaker 1: I don't think that Tom Thibodeau's in love with Oladipo there,

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Speaker 1: nor do I think he fits their timeline. But I

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Speaker 1: do think Oladipo gets auctioned off at some point somewhere.

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Speaker 1: Lowry is interesting. I think Miami continues to be the

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Speaker 1: front runner there because they'll part with Duncan Robinson, and

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Speaker 1: Robinson is probably the best player that the Raptors can

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Speaker 1: get back in that mix. The most interesting player, though,

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Speaker 1: dan is John Collins. You know, John Collins an excellent player,

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Speaker 1: and the Hawks have made him available, but they're asking

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Speaker 1: price is high, and I'm not expecting that asking price

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Speaker 1: to go down. So John Collins is the one that

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure is going to move. I'm very sure

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Speaker 1: that Gordon and Oladipo are likely to move Lowery I

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Speaker 1: think is likely to move along with Norman Powell. But

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Speaker 1: John Collins is the one player that you still are

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Speaker 1: not sure if he's going to move. I like what

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Speaker 1: the Sons are doing, and they're doing it quietly. I

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Speaker 1: don't know if they're just a regular season team. They

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Speaker 1: picked up from the bubble where they went undefeated in

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Speaker 1: this season, so handicapped the Phoenix Suns bigger picture here. Look,

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Speaker 1: they've got a chance to be a conference finalist, at

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Speaker 1: least in that conference because Chris Paul has made them

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Speaker 1: a tougher playoff team. But beyond Paul, you know, I

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Speaker 1: really like what DeAndre Ayton has done this year. I mean,

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Speaker 1: Ayton is forever going to be compared to Luca don

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Speaker 1: Chis and we'll never put up the kind of numbers

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Speaker 1: or probably win the kind of awards that John Chick

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Speaker 1: has done. But what Ayton has done this year has

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Speaker 1: accepted that defense is his primary responsibility. And this Soun's team,

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Speaker 1: I believe is still ranked inside the top ten defensively,

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Speaker 1: and that's largely because DeAndre Ayton has made a commitment

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Speaker 1: to that end. He's still putting up numbers when he

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Speaker 1: can on the offensive, ending Chris Paul. You know, if

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Speaker 1: you watch the game last night, goes out of his

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Speaker 1: way to make sure Ayton get some easy buckets around

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Speaker 1: the rim. But he is locked in on that end

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Speaker 1: of the floor. And if they're able to be top

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Speaker 1: ten defensively, they're gonna give any team in that conference

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Speaker 1: a real problem. Great to talk to you as always, Chris, Uh,

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Speaker 1: I have fun and uh thanks for joining us. You

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Speaker 1: got it. Damn. That's Chris Mannox Sports Illustrated NBA senior writer.

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Speaker 1: He loves the French. He loves Tony Parker. Not to

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Speaker 1: ask some member he's Australia maybe I think he was Australian. Yes,

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Speaker 1: but he likes European ballplayers. He doesn't. He doesn't like

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Speaker 1: homegrown ball players apparently. I think that's what it comes down.

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Speaker 1: He said Mario Jenio is going to be a future

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Speaker 1: all Sorry, I'm not making that up. Oh he did

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Speaker 1: say that. Yeah, he went number five. Yeah, that made

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Speaker 1: You had a guy in your draft with an impossible name.

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Speaker 1: Nicholas Skittish Valley. That's the hardest name. Ever. Yeah, he went,

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Speaker 1: he went like five to Denver, Nicholas skittish Lee. Did

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Speaker 1: he went overseas, but I don't. I don't think he's

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Speaker 1: A couple of phone calls in here Nick and Cincinnati

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Speaker 1: leads us off. Hi, Nick, what's on your mind today?

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Speaker 1: A DP six ft two hundred. I'm also a seventeen

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Speaker 1: time caller, but normally I'm known as Nick and Arizona.

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Speaker 1: I just moved, and I wanted to wanted to chat

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Speaker 1: about NBA and defense and eras. So I liked what

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Speaker 1: Seaton said, and I was curious, your ac if defense

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Speaker 1: is being played better now than it was in the

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Speaker 1: eighties and nineties or was it just more physical back then?

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Speaker 1: You know, kind of give me your take. And then

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Speaker 1: regarding condiments, you know, my grandpa he said, there's three

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Speaker 1: all right, thank you, Nick? Is he anti mustard? Sounded

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Speaker 1: like that. Yeah, it's not going to play well, Um,

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Speaker 1: you can't put your hands on guys. But I think

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Speaker 1: there's less ball movement now. Everybody's on the perimeter, so

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Speaker 1: it feels like you know where your guy's going to be,

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Speaker 1: as opposed to in different eras where there was constant

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Speaker 1: movement there. It's a little bit different. But yeah, you

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Speaker 1: know the physicality of being able to play defense put

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Speaker 1: your hand on somebody, which makes it even more amazing

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Speaker 1: the offensive numbers of those players. You know, Jordan was

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Speaker 1: a great defender, Kobe a very good defender that you

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Speaker 1: could put your hands on them as well, and what

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Speaker 1: they were able to accomplish, Yes, poem, the other hard

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Speaker 1: falls are not allowed anymore. Whenever there's the even something

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Speaker 1: close to a hard foul, they launched an investigation. They

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Speaker 1: go to replay and decide whether it's a flagrant. Want

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Speaker 1: a flagrant too. It happens a couple of times a game,

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Speaker 1: even if it's close to a hard foul. Well, there

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Speaker 1: used to be playoff fouls that it was they called

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Speaker 1: it differently in the playoffs. If you watch an old

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Speaker 1: playoff game and then you go, wown't that seemed a

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Speaker 1: little rough? That's excessive. Yah see. I think there's an

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Speaker 1: Instagram account called like old school NBA or something like that,

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Speaker 1: and essentially just clips like that of like Kevin McHale

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Speaker 1: tackling somebody. And you know this just in the Washington

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Speaker 1: Football team owner Daniel Snyder is buying out the minority owners.

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Speaker 1: The deal has been approved by the NFL Finance Committee.

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Speaker 1: Daniel Snyder, they're not going away. And there was a

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Speaker 1: report that came out that they're not changing their name,

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Speaker 1: their nickname. They're going to be the Washington football team.

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Speaker 1: He's not giving up. The team got total control and

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Speaker 1: that changed fast, right, Remember kind of teetering on, Oh,

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Speaker 1: there's an investigation Washington Post. There's a sexual harassment man,

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Speaker 1: you know, paid off somebody, and then all of a sudden,

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Speaker 1: it's like nothing to see here. Once the season starts,

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Speaker 1: Daniel Snyder's like, yeah, Paul, Dan, you can find twenty

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Speaker 1: articles from late August. Daniel Snyder must sell this team.

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Speaker 1: The NFL should remove Daniel Snyder. The minority owners of

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Speaker 1: the team were complaining about Daniel Snyder. They're not gonna

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Speaker 1: be anywhere more. Minority owners of the team. He's brought

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Speaker 1: them all out. It's going to buy them all out.

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Speaker 1: Daniel Sider's entrenched. Yeah, And I go back to what

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Speaker 1: I was told. I don't know how long it's been,

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Speaker 1: it's been years. And Daniel Snyder wanted to build a

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Speaker 1: would happen is if he changed the nickname to the

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Speaker 1: team when they were known as the Redskins. Well, he's

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Speaker 1: changed the nickname. Can he have a stadium downtown? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: See Yeah, but you get the sense that you know,

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Speaker 1: there was clearly a hostile takeover being attempted by minority owners,

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Speaker 1: and Daniel Snyder was like, all right, let's huddle up

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Speaker 1: in the war room and start wiping people out. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: let's just buy them all out. Yeah. See you guys,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna take care of all these people. Let's see

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Speaker 1: AJ in Boston. Hij what's on your mind today? Hey? Dan?

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Speaker 1: First of all, love what you guys do. Thanks for

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Speaker 1: making the mornings more enjoyable. Well, thanks. I wanted to

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Speaker 1: quickly talk about the Rodman was his Draymond comparison, that

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Speaker 1: you made. I feel, you know, both great players, great defenders,

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Speaker 1: but and it's definitely compared because the team styles are different.

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Speaker 1: But if you switch them, if you switched teams before

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Speaker 1: the Rodman on the Warriors and Draymond the Bolls all

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Speaker 1: the Pistons, I feel Draymond would still lead, like get

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Speaker 1: success with them, whereas Rodman will be difficult. Scraymond averages

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Speaker 1: like k assists the game. He can got two through five,

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Speaker 1: like Mannic said, and just wanted to get your take

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Speaker 1: on it, since, like I feel that just makes Scramond

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Speaker 1: more important, like more valuable than Rotherman. All right, well,

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Speaker 1: thank you, Aja. Draymond is a better all around player.

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Speaker 1: Rodman was a good pass as well. He was a

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Speaker 1: better defender in my opinion, and a better rebounder. He

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Speaker 1: didn't want to shoot. He couldn't care less. He'd go

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Speaker 1: to the free throw line, and it's as if he

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Speaker 1: was being bothered that he had to go to the

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Speaker 1: free throw line. But Rodman when he was in junior

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Speaker 1: college averaged I think thirty points a game. But he

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Speaker 1: chose he didn't want to. He knew his role. He's

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Speaker 1: a great role player when it came to the Pistons,

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Speaker 1: that's for sure. But hey, you want Draymond Green, I'll

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Speaker 1: take Dennis Roden. Yeah. I saw Rodman on the biggest

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Speaker 1: stages and he played great, came through, they won titles.

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Speaker 1: Draymond cost the Golden State Warriors. Who title? Yes, Paul Michelen,

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Speaker 1: we put up the poll, who would you rather have

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Speaker 1: for ten years? Span Rodman or Draymond Green and seventy

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Speaker 1: eight Rodman. So, yeah, Draymond's a really good player. If

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Speaker 1: Draymond was on Orlando or Cleveland, he would be just

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Speaker 1: a nice player. You wouldn't even know that he was there,

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Speaker 1: or you'd have to look closer and go, oh wow,

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Speaker 1: he's averaging that with Golden State, he was He does

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Speaker 1: what they need him to do, not a great score,

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Speaker 1: really good passer point forward and uh you know, we'll

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Speaker 1: be the you do the dirty word. Got to have

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Speaker 1: those guys. Uh. So, if you say I gotta have

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Speaker 1: take Draymond Green and you get Dennis Rodman, I'm okay

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Speaker 1: with that. But there are a lot of guys who

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Speaker 1: are better defenders than Draymond Green. But Draymond the first

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Speaker 1: thing I said was he'd accomplished what he wanted to accomplish.

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Speaker 1: He just trolls people. He loves this, he loves social media,

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Speaker 1: loves talking about this, and got his name up there

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Speaker 1: in the conversation because we've probably forgotten about him because

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Speaker 1: Rudy Gobert is your defensive player of the year, or

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Speaker 1: Anthony Davis when he's health there, they're better defenders than

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Speaker 1: Draymond Green. Coming up next hour, Father and Son, Jim

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