Speaker 1: What what was Justin Guarini like for you for really?
Speaker 2: Okay, here's the thing with Justin Guarini is he was
Speaker 2: so whitewashed at that point that I never really identified
Speaker 2: with Justin Guarini. He was really trying to play it like, oh,
Speaker 2: I'm just like an Italian dude, o curly hair, instead
Speaker 2: of being like, no, I'm black. But I happened to like,
Speaker 2: remember he had a fucking movie with Kelly Clarkson from
Speaker 2: Justin to Kelly, Yeah, exactly. He really was trying to
Speaker 2: just play it like now I'm just I'm just a
Speaker 2: regular guy like everybody else.
Speaker 1: It was like a type of thing, Yeah.
Speaker 3: Define.
Speaker 4: In a Kuala bears are racist, the hosts, the money
Speaker 4: turkey stuff.
Speaker 1: I can't tell me. She make the toughest homeboy fall
Speaker 1: deep in love and once you had a Ronie, you
Speaker 1: will never give her up. Welcome Little Mama's and gentiles
Speaker 1: alike to another phenomenal episode of My Mama.
Speaker 2: Told Me, the podcast where we dive deep, deep into
Speaker 2: the pockets of black conspiracy.
Speaker 1: Theories and we finally worked to prove that that come
Speaker 1: on be My Baby tonight. Shit that that nigga did
Speaker 1: on real World's New Orleans never happened. It was a
Speaker 1: Mandela effect. Y'all are remembering it wrong. Strike it from
Speaker 1: the record. My name is David Boyd.
Speaker 2: I'm like Stack Kerman, and I wonder, I wonder if
Speaker 2: part of your motivation and wanting to remove that from
Speaker 2: the greater conversation is because that person's name was David
Speaker 2: as well.
Speaker 1: It's a blight on our history that cannot be forgotten.
Speaker 2: It's not a great David moment.
Speaker 1: I would say, it's, in fact, one of our worst.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was. It was bad. It was big bad,
Speaker 2: and uh and.
Speaker 1: We can't be that thing can be singing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he I think tried to maintain a career as
Speaker 2: a musician. If I'm not mistaken, I think he continues
Speaker 2: to be a musician to this day.
Speaker 1: To be fair about it, we all saw it. They
Speaker 1: never forgot. Yeah. Maybe in that way it's historic.
Speaker 2: Maybe longer lasting and more influencing than nine to eleven.
Speaker 2: I would say as far as never forgetting, I.
Speaker 1: Mean as far as being eleven years old and watching
Speaker 1: something on TV that was my nine Absolutely, I was like,
Speaker 1: what the fuck is going on? He had his eyes closed.
Speaker 1: I know the way you treated you've been with. I
Speaker 1: thin she was incredible.
Speaker 2: I guess today I know for certain, I feel very
Speaker 2: confident that he has an opinion on this conversation.
Speaker 1: Uh, he's a man.
Speaker 2: He's a man who knows pop culture in and out
Speaker 2: and often has very exciting, provocative takes on on all
Speaker 2: things that are that I'm interested in. He's so funny,
Speaker 2: you know him from from cool Ship. Just he just
Speaker 2: be out here doing cool ship, just being funny, being cool,
Speaker 2: taking niggas to restaurants in Atlanta that are gonna kill
Speaker 2: them and and bruin their bloodline. Truly, a man of
Speaker 2: so many jacks and so many trades. Were so happy
Speaker 2: he's back. Give it up for our guest today, Mandol want.
Speaker 3: To the dudes I love that I have. I have
Speaker 3: a couple of comments to make. Yeah, the worst thing
Speaker 3: about bringing somebody to a restaurant that is going to,
Speaker 3: you know, shorten their lifeline. It's mean. And they say
Speaker 3: that was fine, Yo.
Speaker 1: You didn't even love it.
Speaker 3: I brought life to a spot and he did not enjoy.
Speaker 2: That's not true.
Speaker 3: For something.
Speaker 2: That's absolutely not true. In fact, I had a spectacular meal,
Speaker 2: We had great conversation. It was it was true fellowship.
Speaker 2: Now where Mandel, in my opinion, went wrong was he
Speaker 2: wanted me to try chicken livers, which I told him
Speaker 2: from the beginning I had no interest in eating. I
Speaker 2: do not like chicken livers. I've experienced them before. He
Speaker 2: was like, no, but you got to understand these.
Speaker 1: Do as the at aliens do. And I did.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he ate one, and he did that thing that
Speaker 3: they teach you an etiquete class in middle school. But
Speaker 3: when you split it out, you just put the napkin
Speaker 3: over your face. Bro. He didn't like it, and I
Speaker 3: didn't never get a second chance after that.
Speaker 1: No, that was the end of that.
Speaker 2: And I put it in the napkin and I stood
Speaker 2: up and I said, boys, it's been a pleasure.
Speaker 3: And yeah, you was talking about who was singing? Did
Speaker 3: you just talking about?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: From the real World's New Orleans?
Speaker 3: See. Okay. So when I was I don't know if
Speaker 3: I'm wasting time, But when I'm seventy years old, I
Speaker 3: was in a movie. I was in a movie with
Speaker 3: Jada picking swith when she was still light skinned. They
Speaker 3: put it in the oven. No, it's called the Walk, right,
Speaker 3: And I was posted, like you could pick the son
Speaker 3: but I was too old. Just before she went on
Speaker 3: make the Time Model, they put it, they put in
Speaker 3: another Time model and Tank from the real world.
Speaker 2: What right?
Speaker 3: He was playing a preacher in the movie and I
Speaker 3: remember at seven being like, why did y'all jump into
Speaker 3: that lake naked? And I didn't process at the moment,
Speaker 3: but as a seven year old asking that man that
Speaker 3: I can tell you realized, dang, I'm influencing the youth
Speaker 3: the wrong direction.
Speaker 1: Do you think that was cool?
Speaker 3: I feel like because I was a kid, he was
Speaker 3: on something like, dang, bro, I gotta get baptized because
Speaker 3: I'm leading the youth down the wrong way.
Speaker 1: Oh, I saw it. When I saw it, I thought
Speaker 1: that that was cool. He came to the house, he
Speaker 1: met an exotic woman and he was like, let's get
Speaker 1: naked and get in the pool, and they didn't.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he thought I thought it was cool, But I
Speaker 3: think he didn't like that. I was a kid watching.
Speaker 1: That because you were so young, you were a child
Speaker 1: after he was.
Speaker 2: It's one thing when you're like, I'm doing some cool
Speaker 2: shit with like the homies and people that that can
Speaker 2: process this. It's another thing to make a young man
Speaker 2: form his future based off of your your choices to
Speaker 2: be naked in a hot time.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, and he was playing a preacher with a Cisco
Speaker 3: blonde in his hate. I ain't never.
Speaker 1: Seen that, would you? And I think that I know
Speaker 1: the answer to this question. Me and my girl into
Speaker 1: brunch yesterday and as a black man, when either of
Speaker 1: you ever go blonde, Uh, you're not in my color.
Speaker 3: No, you can just because if I go blonde, then
Speaker 3: now I'm just Drew Ski. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: I can't do it.
Speaker 1: But imagine, imagine the world. There's no juice Ski, Bro.
Speaker 3: I can't do it. Bro. The reason, I mean, listen,
Speaker 3: the reason I would go platinum blonde because I'm a
Speaker 3: bit of Cisco fan.
Speaker 1: Wow, but is that even blind? I think that where
Speaker 1: I'm from, we call that silver silver.
Speaker 3: But like that's what I'm saying. I feel like, once
Speaker 3: you go silver, you start wearing fingerless gloves. He started
Speaker 3: doing tachi.
Speaker 1: All kinds of dragon iconography.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you get yourself a dragon shirt and silver hair.
Speaker 2: You gotta stay with that.
Speaker 1: I'm running across pitches to say, in his eyes, you
Speaker 1: were talking.
Speaker 3: About traumatizing singing moments from when you was a kid.
Speaker 3: Man oh yeah, and boy, you might relate to this
Speaker 3: lengths thing. You will know when you were a kid,
Speaker 3: how did Ruber's stutter afect your.
Speaker 1: Come on this.
Speaker 3: It was a big was on top. They assumed that
Speaker 3: every big fellow was a singing dude.
Speaker 1: Bro.
Speaker 2: That was that was a man, I'm not I'm not
Speaker 2: gonna lie. This is this is surprising to hear. I
Speaker 2: thought y'all would have been big fans of of what
Speaker 2: Ruben had going on.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because you think we're all friends.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I.
Speaker 3: Was apologizing for stuff where it's like, hey.
Speaker 1: Man, he apologized for two thousand and four the.
Speaker 3: Whole year, but it was like he was doing stuff
Speaker 3: that apology not enough bro noise, just like, come on man,
Speaker 3: we got a play station. You're being ridiculous.
Speaker 2: Damn. This is this is big news, uh, literalizing news
Speaker 2: for me to find out that rubens stutter was not
Speaker 2: in fact welcomed in your community.
Speaker 3: The way was affected by that might be that might
Speaker 3: be the being stick anybody's up. Thank you for letting
Speaker 3: me on the program.
Speaker 2: Please, I mean we will be addeding you out. You're
Speaker 2: not sticking.
Speaker 3: Around and and I can verify that that that will
Speaker 3: have issue that because I was in Chicago with him
Speaker 3: and I've seen his all his friends he grow up with,
Speaker 3: and that real Africans.
Speaker 2: And I do ask him to whisper it.
Speaker 1: I say, no, Listen, I've been putting up with African
Speaker 1: slander for months on this podcast. No no rocket with him,
Speaker 1: No me too. It's it's this guy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I'm not.
Speaker 1: I'm not a fan.
Speaker 2: Uh. You know what I'm saying this is, this is
Speaker 2: a fascinating thing because we we've talked for so long
Speaker 2: that we're actually at a break and we haven't even
Speaker 2: introduced the the subject of the episode. So what I
Speaker 2: think we should do is we should introduce Mandal's conspiracy
Speaker 2: and then we're gonna take a break and we're gonna
Speaker 2: start to unpack that thing. If that works for y'all. Okay,
Speaker 2: this is exciting.
Speaker 3: Mandal.
Speaker 2: You came to us with the conspiracy today that I
Speaker 2: think we wanted to talk about on the pod for
Speaker 2: a long time. Certainly it has come across my desk
Speaker 2: a few times.
Speaker 1: This is never heard.
Speaker 2: This is your first time hearing it.
Speaker 1: I was really excited when I read it. I had
Speaker 1: never heard of that.
Speaker 2: That's awesome, so so one at the very least we
Speaker 2: have not covered, and we're excited to do it with
Speaker 2: with you. It's you said, my mama told me. Slaves
Speaker 2: made hush puppies to quiet the dogs when trying to
Speaker 2: escape slavery. A little teased for the people at home. Yeah,
Speaker 2: let's bring it back at nip for you to for
Speaker 2: to get a little little waisted, little waisted, but not
Speaker 2: not drunk yet. You're gonna get a little little tipsy
Speaker 2: and having a good time, still having a good time.
Speaker 2: We're gonna take a break and we'll be back with
Speaker 2: more mandel more, my mama told me. And we're gonna
Speaker 2: talk about these hush puppies. We're calling upon you because
Speaker 2: we have we have new merch. We have very exciting
Speaker 2: merch that we are now selling and it's it's fucking great.
Speaker 2: We love it so much.
Speaker 1: Just sleek, it's sexy.
Speaker 2: Come on, you want to tell them what we have?
Speaker 1: Yeah, we have three different types of hats, which is
Speaker 1: really fun. We have a two tone hat, an alien
Speaker 1: dad hat, the traditional logo in black and khaki. Then
Speaker 1: we have the enamel pin with an alien who has
Speaker 1: a koofie on it. Since my mama told me, and
Speaker 1: then we have t shirts that say proud Little Mama,
Speaker 1: which is who you are.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can buy the merch now, go to ma.
Speaker 2: Mama told me dot merch table dot com. It's a
Speaker 2: brand new name, but it's the same old merch and
Speaker 2: we would love for you to get some if you
Speaker 2: haven't got it already. And we want you to have
Speaker 2: all the sweet stuff. So get it, lou you goddamn head.
Speaker 4: Smooth off.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're back. We're still talking to Mandal about the
Speaker 2: possibility that hushpuppies were in fact made to quiet the
Speaker 2: dogs to escape slavery. Mandal, I would love for you
Speaker 2: to tell us everything you know feel about this subject.
Speaker 3: Okay, I have to be all the way out of
Speaker 3: this stuff.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 3: My mom did not say this. M I've heard I
Speaker 3: saw this on Twitter and then I googled it and
Speaker 3: people were saying it for a couple of years. But
Speaker 3: I think my mother would classify this under mumbo jimbo.
Speaker 3: But I did not. I think that this is what
Speaker 3: I think. I'm pretty sure that there was let me
Speaker 3: let me get a conspiracy. So essentially, what they said
Speaker 3: huts puppies was start off in some sort of carmea.
Speaker 3: They fried up or whatever. And when people will be
Speaker 3: trying to like, you know, trying to escape or get out.
Speaker 3: You know, of course dogs where they used to protect
Speaker 3: their grounds, and so they would feed them these things
Speaker 3: to distract them so they could get off of black
Speaker 3: plantation in the pocket. Yeah, like it was like a
Speaker 3: situation where, like, I guess you would be trying to
Speaker 3: flee and you throw some of these out here to
Speaker 3: stop the dog from trying to attack you with something.
Speaker 3: And uh, I'm halfway with it, but believe it. But
Speaker 3: I'm concerned up all right, man, So like I don't
Speaker 3: This might be a Southern thing, but back in the
Speaker 3: early two thousands, everybody grandmama liked Captain De Captain Deed.
Speaker 3: If you was like, oh, I'm gonna get some I'm
Speaker 3: gonna get some fast food. Your grandma go get you some.
Speaker 3: Let's get some fish from Captain De's.
Speaker 2: Oh, Captain D's is a fish Chicago. No, I never
Speaker 2: heard of Captain.
Speaker 3: Are the fried fish restaurants?
Speaker 1: We only had one off of Havana.
Speaker 3: But yeah, yeah, the South, and they had hush puppies
Speaker 3: right And now I'm terrified of what type of ship
Speaker 3: Captain Deeds was driving. Bro, because my folks really enjoyed
Speaker 3: this stuff. Yeah, and he out here doing he out
Speaker 3: here twisted.
Speaker 2: You find out, you find out what kind of captain
Speaker 2: you've been serving this, bro.
Speaker 3: Captain D's was hard back in the day.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we never had before in my life. Vom.
Speaker 1: John Silvers has hush puppies too.
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, it's not the same as Captain D.
Speaker 1: Captain D's is good, captain.
Speaker 3: Kind of like how Pope's is today and that you've
Speaker 3: only seen Captain D's across from a city train. You
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: It's an urban market, absolutely.
Speaker 1: Yeah. John is down by the down the street from
Speaker 1: the most busted mall. Even when I was in high school,
Speaker 1: it was like the mall where you would go to
Speaker 1: to get like airbrush, like it was that much. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: it sounds no chain stores in them all. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: It sounds, if I may, it sounds maybe even closer
Speaker 2: to maybe a church's chicken than a Popeye's chicken.
Speaker 3: See that's now you get somewhere. It's it's like churches,
Speaker 3: but with catfish. Honestly, I think it was whitened. It
Speaker 3: was whitened, which is lower than catfish was it wasn't catfish.
Speaker 3: I think it was widen because before they started put
Speaker 3: making a fish in the computer you print to laugh,
Speaker 3: they may out of a three printer. Now, I met
Speaker 3: the uh uh uh in the back of Wallmark right
Speaker 3: before you get that it's whiter.
Speaker 5: Absolutely, first of all, let him cook you could get.
Speaker 5: Let's be clear, I don't.
Speaker 2: Think everybody knew that they were three D printing fish.
Speaker 2: I don't think to just throw that out like that was.
Speaker 2: That was just an understood agreement amongst every man.
Speaker 3: I'd have been in aquariums all across the country. I
Speaker 3: ain't never seen no tilapia there.
Speaker 2: They're not motherfucking book.
Speaker 3: They making that junk in the computer.
Speaker 1: I can I also say, though this is a weird stat,
Speaker 1: I also have been in aquariums across the country and
Speaker 1: have seen I don't know what a tilapia looks like.
Speaker 1: For as much as I've consumed, you couldn't hit me
Speaker 1: in the face with the tilapia fish. Oh, I don't
Speaker 1: know what it looks like with the scales on.
Speaker 2: Here's what I'll say, and I don't disagree that. I
Speaker 2: think a lot of our fish is probably not what
Speaker 2: they tell us it is or certainly not the correct
Speaker 2: manufacturing of what they're claiming. That said, I don't think
Speaker 2: it's tilapia. That's the one that ever body is in
Speaker 2: fact like making out of other fish. I think it's
Speaker 2: cod is the one that is made from a bunch
Speaker 2: of other fish. I think cod is like the hot
Speaker 2: dog of fish.
Speaker 3: The new come Square.
Speaker 1: You guys have done, shy. It's like they say, it's
Speaker 1: like catfish, but it's cheaper.
Speaker 3: That's not good about the hushpuppy thing. That's why they
Speaker 3: call it hush puppies. I've got to say that because yeah, that's.
Speaker 2: So so to that. I guess Bory, this is your
Speaker 2: first time hearing this. Tell me how much you believe
Speaker 2: in the possibility of this being real.
Speaker 1: Okay, so here's the thing. I'm conflicted because I my
Speaker 1: heart wants to believe it. I like this, but if
Speaker 1: it was something as high risk as me trying to
Speaker 1: escape slavery, I'd probably throw the dogs at me. Even
Speaker 1: if it was scraps or organs or something like that,
Speaker 1: I don't think I would. I would trust cornmeal to
Speaker 1: quiet the dogs. I would give them.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying you're saying that that's not
Speaker 2: substantive enough to guarantee your escape.
Speaker 1: But I also don't know dogs like that. I'll tell
Speaker 1: you that I don't know dogs like Yeah.
Speaker 3: Well I think, well, I think that. I think it's
Speaker 3: a situation of like they was making the best of
Speaker 3: what they had type of thing, right, Right, But here
Speaker 3: the issue I have.
Speaker 1: Right, and why make them so delicious for people? If
Speaker 1: you were just gonna give them the dogs?
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I just think it would.
Speaker 3: I think I think the issue I have with that
Speaker 3: is that why why as time went on they only
Speaker 3: became like a seafood day.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: That's a good question too, That is a good question.
Speaker 3: It would have been different if instead of we had
Speaker 3: instead of corn bread, we just always had hush puppies, right,
Speaker 3: But something had to happen amongst the translations. But maybe
Speaker 3: only happening on the coast, I don't know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is a fascinating thing when you start to
Speaker 2: think about where hush puppies sort of exist in our
Speaker 2: greater like eating relationship. Right, Like, as much as you
Speaker 2: go like, oh yeah, hushpuppies, I associate them with sort
Speaker 2: of Southern food but it isn't to your point, mandeal All,
Speaker 2: It's not like every southern restaurant you go to has
Speaker 2: hush puppies. They're more associated with like seafood and sometimes
Speaker 2: like creole food or like throw hush puppies in there.
Speaker 2: But it's it's not everywhere.
Speaker 1: It's always with shrimp or fish. I feel, m h,
Speaker 1: like I never had it with like poor chops, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean listen. I mean obviously obviously
Speaker 3: I wasn't there, so.
Speaker 2: Thank god, we're glad. We're glad you're here with us.
Speaker 1: We're lucky there.
Speaker 3: So I mean that bearwell could be likely. I'm pretty
Speaker 3: sure they had a bunch of tactics that they was
Speaker 3: using at the time, getting creative to get out of
Speaker 3: a tumultuous situation. I'm just saying this specific theory is
Speaker 3: interesting because I'm like, if it's a trained dog, would
Speaker 3: that be enough for him to be like.
Speaker 2: Yeah, disciplined about like not eating them hush puppies.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying, Like, because they're trained to hunt
Speaker 1: down people, right, yeah, So it's like if they're well trained,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be like, no, I got I once again,
Speaker 1: I don't know dogs.
Speaker 3: Listen, I don't hate.
Speaker 1: I need that to be known though right now, on.
Speaker 2: The record, I don't hate anybody else that talks like that.
Speaker 2: Probably got some issues with a dog, but.
Speaker 1: I don't have any issues. I just don't like animals
Speaker 1: more than people. I hate that I have to explain
Speaker 1: this to people all the time.
Speaker 2: It's not crazy, an pretty upset and he's yelling in
Speaker 2: a way that that feels like a man with hatred
Speaker 2: in his heart.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying that you don't get angry when you
Speaker 1: see a dog wearing clothing.
Speaker 3: No, thank you, I want to I want to mention something.
Speaker 1: We have a house in Christis Saity're building houses for dogs. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I wasn't helping with either either positions. So yeah, go ahead, dogs,
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I got one thing to bring up if I mean, yeah,
Speaker 3: what so, because here's my thing. Let's say if you're
Speaker 3: getting arrested. Let's say you a drug lord, right, and
Speaker 3: the police is after you. Yeah, and they got the
Speaker 3: dogs running through the wools trying to find that uh
Speaker 3: supplements eight. Right, if I threw that dog a begging strip,
Speaker 3: he so gullible to be like, you know what, never mind? Yeah,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I don't care about the work anymore. I got this
Speaker 1: fake meat.
Speaker 2: I think if I may, I think it's less of
Speaker 2: never mind and more of a small distraction to give
Speaker 2: you an additional what two minutes three minutes of running
Speaker 2: time to distance yourself from the situation. That said, where
Speaker 2: I start to get curious about this is part of
Speaker 2: what slaves also had to do was remove scent from
Speaker 2: their body, Like you have to make yourself less traceable
Speaker 2: in escape, and by leaving trails of food behind you
Speaker 2: are in fact making yourself more traceable. These animals then
Speaker 2: less traceable. It starts to feel a little almost countering, counterproductive.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because dogs know if you got meat on you,
Speaker 1: or like if you're on your period. They know that.
Speaker 1: Because no, look what Olivia said, Olivia, don't make me
Speaker 1: feel like a crazy person. Olivia chimed in and said,
Speaker 1: unfortunately they do. Y'all were laughing at me, like I'm nuts.
Speaker 1: They can swell when you're on your period.
Speaker 2: It wasn't that what you said. It sounded crazy. It
Speaker 2: was just the passion that you sort of found inside
Speaker 2: of it. I don't know it felt very left field
Speaker 2: in a way that made me laugh. But but hey,
Speaker 2: you're right, You're right. They know when people are on
Speaker 2: their period.
Speaker 1: They also can tell if you've had an abortion. Whoa
Speaker 1: y'all saying?
Speaker 3: Y're saying all dogs really is going to heaven? No no, no, no,
Speaker 3: no no.
Speaker 1: That don't worry about it. The Tilappian thing is going
Speaker 1: to be the clip. Anyways, You're right.
Speaker 2: Here's what I'll tell you is that is that I
Speaker 2: did do a little bit of research on this subject
Speaker 2: of whether or not these hushpuppies, this hushpuppy situation is
Speaker 2: in fact real, And one of the things that almost
Speaker 2: seems most definitive in the research that I did is
Speaker 2: that the origins of hushpuppies are unclear. They are not
Speaker 2: in fact certain where hushpuppies came from. But what does
Speaker 2: seem to be sort of like an agreed upon thing
Speaker 2: is that this idea of hush puppies being like something
Speaker 2: that got left behind for dogs specifically, is a little
Speaker 2: bit of a Internet fallacy that's not necessarily real. That
Speaker 2: we sort of did some weird cross pollination with names
Speaker 2: associated with slavery because of Southern food and then decided
Speaker 2: that this was a food left behind, hushpuppies. They in
Speaker 2: what I'm reading themselves like the actual name of that
Speaker 2: food being called hushpuppies didn't happen until like the early
Speaker 2: nineteen twenties, nineteen thirties, they say. Early mentions of the
Speaker 2: term hushpuppies in American newspaper from nineteen thirty six also
Speaker 2: expressed confusion about its origin. Response to the letter in
Speaker 2: Atlanta Journal, why are Hushpuppies? The article posited a number
Speaker 2: of theories, including the ones we share above about the
Speaker 2: additional story that carries racist references to black people. But
Speaker 2: basically they're saying, like, it doesn't really get called hushpuppies
Speaker 2: until much later after the slavery shit. So if it's
Speaker 2: being called that, it's more retroactive, then like definitively slaves
Speaker 2: were calling it that. If that makes sense, like most
Speaker 2: information on Twitter, I think so.
Speaker 1: Damn yeah, I kind of liked this one. I wanted
Speaker 1: this one to be real.
Speaker 2: They also said, originally hush puppy was a slang term
Speaker 2: for silence one. I mean it can be we we
Speaker 2: certainly can spread that misinformation.
Speaker 1: Hush poppy.
Speaker 2: I know, ubobby, but they said it was a slang
Speaker 2: term for silencing someone or covering up misdeeds. A seventeen
Speaker 2: thirty eight account in a London magazine described crooked British
Speaker 2: port officials boarding a smugglership in Colonial Ontario, where they
Speaker 2: played the game of hushpuppy by stopping off at a
Speaker 2: captain's cabin to be serenaded several hours with the captain's
Speaker 2: music music, I guess it's music while the crew hid
Speaker 2: the contraband beneath the ship's ballast. So it does sound
Speaker 2: like there are some associations with the hushing of a
Speaker 2: nemesis of sorts of a person in opposition an op.
Speaker 3: If you will, But it's not a dog.
Speaker 2: But it wasn't a dog specifically. They also talk a
Speaker 2: little bit about I guess hushpuppies and like a lot
Speaker 2: of things existed before black people and even white people
Speaker 2: were in this country.
Speaker 1: That second.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, it's not a It doesn't seem like
Speaker 2: a crazy idea that like frying corn meal, would not
Speaker 2: like we were the first motherfuckers to think of that.
Speaker 2: You know, Native Americans did that ship before we did,
Speaker 2: and probably called it something.
Speaker 1: I mean they love bread, right, was frying stuff? I think?
Speaker 3: So where where where's the where's the natural crisco? Oh?
Speaker 2: Like, where does that oil come from?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I thought it was I thought it was
Speaker 2: corn crisco?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Is it not getting the supplement to fry? You know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying?
Speaker 2: I don't know. I know that there's there's corn oils,
Speaker 2: there are vegetable oils, which maybe that falls into the
Speaker 2: corn category. There's uh, what are the some of the
Speaker 2: other oils?
Speaker 1: Is the what's the yellow crisco? The one that's basically buttered?
Speaker 3: I don't know, but I'm gonna say I'm only fried,
Speaker 3: so I only cooked maybe four times in my life
Speaker 3: without clear scope. But in my brain, I'm like, where
Speaker 3: they get the supplement? You know?
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's an interesting question that I don't really
Speaker 2: have an answer for, is where the crisco came from?
Speaker 2: But but I will say that it's certainly I think,
Speaker 2: like most things in this country, it was not originated
Speaker 2: by US, you know what I mean, like a lot
Speaker 2: of things. Uh, and by US, I mean Americans, not
Speaker 2: Black Americans. I think black Americans invented a lot, but
Speaker 2: specifically America did not necessarily America, we understand, did not
Speaker 2: just invent everything we have today.
Speaker 3: Right, because in my brain, I'm thinking natives all grillly.
Speaker 3: I think they like barbecueing every single day.
Speaker 1: No, it makes sense because of the fires. Yeah, you're like, okay,
Speaker 1: they have the fire going. You put some buffalo on there.
Speaker 1: Who wants to play? I'm more interested right now? And
Speaker 1: how both of you can't cook?
Speaker 3: I can't at all. I can't at all, man.
Speaker 1: You I don't know how you missed it? All right?
Speaker 3: So this is my issue. I don't know if this
Speaker 3: is off topic, but my issue is my brain can't transition.
Speaker 3: It can't see the difference between raw and done before
Speaker 3: it's burnt. Hm hmm. I can't mind the transition. I
Speaker 3: can only see raw and this is this is Oh, it's.
Speaker 1: A timing thing. You it's the time you have timing issues.
Speaker 3: Absolutely.
Speaker 1: My My issue is I can.
Speaker 2: Tell the difference between raw and burnt. I don't want
Speaker 2: to get it. I don't want to get mixed in
Speaker 2: with whatever man's got going on. That's ain't like something
Speaker 2: that needs a prescription. And I don't.
Speaker 3: Issue.
Speaker 2: I just don't want it. I don't want that to
Speaker 2: be my mess. I can tell the difference, but I
Speaker 2: am extremely opposed to spending a long period of time
Speaker 2: on something that I am going to only enjoy for
Speaker 2: a very short period of time. And cooking principally is
Speaker 2: that like, I don't like the idea of I work
Speaker 2: on something for fucking an hour to eat it in
Speaker 2: ten minutes and I scarf down food fast and it
Speaker 2: never feels as worth it as the investment was.
Speaker 3: It's about the journey.
Speaker 1: That's why I that took the words right out of
Speaker 1: my life, and.
Speaker 3: That's what doos on the end goal Always, it's about
Speaker 3: how you get there. It's about the step by step
Speaker 3: you would love into the food because you love yourself.
Speaker 1: That's come on, come on, okay.
Speaker 3: You worth the amount of time it takes to make
Speaker 3: that food.
Speaker 2: Whow I'll say this. I didn't expect to feel inspired
Speaker 2: this morning, but but here I am cook.
Speaker 1: When was the last time you so you don't ever?
Speaker 1: What about like a one pad? What about easy stuff
Speaker 1: like like chicken thighs? That's easy.
Speaker 2: What I've started to do more often is I'll do
Speaker 2: like the I'll two chef for my wife, I'll prep
Speaker 2: everything and now I'll let Nikki like do her thing
Speaker 2: afterwards so that I can cut down on the amount
Speaker 2: of time that she has to spend.
Speaker 1: But I'm not.
Speaker 2: I I just don't like it.
Speaker 1: Man. So you like peel potatoes?
Speaker 2: Yeah, are like cut up carrots? Whatever the fuck the meal? Yeah?
Speaker 2: I never did that.
Speaker 1: But yeah, that air fright, I'm gonna say it right now,
Speaker 1: is holding this all back?
Speaker 3: You think so?
Speaker 1: I think that it's just what are we gonna do
Speaker 1: when there's no air fryers? You can't do everything in there.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna be honest with you.
Speaker 1: I know how some gets some bands.
Speaker 3: I was just there when when I pulled my salmon out.
Speaker 3: When I put salmon in there, when I put my
Speaker 3: salmon out of there, you would have thought they'd never
Speaker 3: touch water in his life. That gona. It's almost salmon jerky.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Broom, You can't. It's not
Speaker 1: for everything. And they're just gonna start at catching ship
Speaker 1: and that's how they're gonna get us. Like have you
Speaker 1: seen that movie Wally how they have the wheelchairs? The
Speaker 1: air frar is the beginning of the wheelchairs. Do you
Speaker 1: think the airfs Oh yeah, they're gonna put chat GPT
Speaker 1: on it. They're gonna put EMP three's on it, and
Speaker 1: we're gonna all be lost.
Speaker 2: I would go so far as to say the microwave
Speaker 2: is more damaging than the airfrar is to no.
Speaker 1: Because the microwave doesn't have the potential. You there's a
Speaker 1: roof on what you're trying to do in the microwave.
Speaker 1: There's a roof. Yeah, And you're not making anything from
Speaker 1: scratch in the microwave. You know what I'm saying. You're
Speaker 1: not putting raw chicken in the microwave to get cooked.
Speaker 2: I would I and I hate to burst some both.
Speaker 1: If you say that you're cooking chicken in the microwave,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna fucking kill you.
Speaker 2: I am not. Uh let me be clear. I'm not
Speaker 2: cooking shit. Microwave are otherwise. But I will say that
Speaker 2: I have seen a fair amount of Instagram videos and
Speaker 2: tiktoks and shit of people now using the microwave for
Speaker 2: raw ingredients. People are baking in the microwave. They are
Speaker 2: cooking full meals via the microwave. It is not the
Speaker 2: limited resource that I think you remember it to be.
Speaker 2: This country's done that I agree with. It's cooked and
Speaker 2: it ain't cooked good, you know what I mean, It's
Speaker 2: cooked in the microwave. We made it fast.
Speaker 1: The law. Also, our algorithms are way different for cookie. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure. I've for some reason had been getting
Speaker 2: a fuck ton of active labor videos as of late.
Speaker 2: So you don't want what I got going on over here.
Speaker 3: I'll be watching the street vendors over the Yeah of
Speaker 3: them real Indians yo.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the super race ship yeah absolutely, yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I also get a lot of Koreans. They're snack technology.
Speaker 1: They're going wild over there.
Speaker 3: They making it half half.
Speaker 1: Yeah for sure, really pulled themselves up by their bootstraps.
Speaker 2: Boys, I really want what you got going on, because
Speaker 2: what I got going on is the fucking nightmare right now.
Speaker 1: Active labor. I didn't even know you could have that
Speaker 1: on Instagram.
Speaker 2: I didn't know either, but I swear to god, I've
Speaker 2: been seeing babies coming out of pussies for the past
Speaker 2: like week and a half in a wed.
Speaker 1: When you get weird shit, I got one. I got
Speaker 1: one breastfeeding video, and that ship I had to like
Speaker 1: scrub it.
Speaker 2: You had to scrub the breast once you.
Speaker 1: Get are Once you get a breastfeeding video, it's in there. Yeah, that,
Speaker 1: and I think that's the problem.
Speaker 3: Is.
Speaker 2: I saw in my Explorer page a child being birthed,
Speaker 2: and I was like, get the fuck out of here.
Speaker 2: There's no way that that's being put on my Instagram.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna click on it to make sure that this
Speaker 2: is obviously the scam that I think it is. And
Speaker 2: then I watched the child be birth and now every
Speaker 2: other video is.
Speaker 3: I had a bit about this, bro, I got I
Speaker 3: had a girl I knew in fourth grade she had
Speaker 3: I ain't seen such fourth grade. We friends on Facebook.
Speaker 3: She had a baby on Facebook live. Bro.
Speaker 1: No, she was holding the phone though it wasn't.
Speaker 3: It wasn't she hold the phone having a baby on
Speaker 3: Facebook Live?
Speaker 1: What was she saying?
Speaker 3: Ooh ah, you know what I'm saying. But you know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. We all have our own trials, and that.
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Speaker 2: of information I'll give you regarding the hushpuppies. They said
Speaker 2: that fried cornbread wasn't, in fact, the first food to
Speaker 2: be called hushpuppies. The term was used as a nickname
Speaker 2: for gravy or pot liquor as early as eighteen seventy nine.
Speaker 2: And they talk about the pot liquor known as hushpuppy
Speaker 2: because it kept the hound dogs from growling. The hounds
Speaker 2: in this case seem to be the metaphoric ones growling
Speaker 2: in a diner stomach. A much smarter use of pot
Speaker 2: liquor than throwing it to the dogs that basically we were,
Speaker 2: in essence the dogs of the story for a while
Speaker 2: as relates to this pot liquor, and then it got extrapped,
Speaker 2: extrapulated into uh, these these dogs of slavery chasing after
Speaker 2: the freedmen in I don't love that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've had pot liquor before.
Speaker 1: I thought it was boot liquor.
Speaker 3: No, it's like that. It's like a colar green juice,
Speaker 3: right am I making this up?
Speaker 2: I guess I don't actually know what pot liquor is.
Speaker 3: I like, it's like a juice that people get their carm.
Speaker 1: Read how do you spell that?
Speaker 2: Like liquor? But lick pot liquor. You're not helping me
Speaker 2: like liquor, like like alcohol liquor. Yeah, oh I thought
Speaker 2: you were like no, no, no. Pot liquor. As Wikipedia explains,
Speaker 2: it is the liquid that is left behind after boiling greens,
Speaker 2: you're right, or beans. It is sometimes seasoned with salt
Speaker 2: and pepper, smell pork or smoke turkey. Pot liquor contains
Speaker 2: high amounts of essential vitamins and minerals.
Speaker 1: Blah blah blah.
Speaker 2: But yeah, you're right, It is like the juice from
Speaker 2: the greens left. Oh, I like that, I like pot
Speaker 2: lickor yeah, py liquor tastes good. But but they're saying
Speaker 2: that that was originally the hushpuppies because they kept your
Speaker 2: tummy from growling.
Speaker 1: Ands.
Speaker 2: Yeah, or gravy was another option for what it was.
Speaker 2: So it doesn't sound like, if we're being completely honest,
Speaker 2: and if I'm gonna put a little bit of a
Speaker 2: bow on this bad boy, it doesn't sound like there's
Speaker 2: any truth to hush puppies having been specifically made for
Speaker 2: quieting dogs as you were escaped from slavery. That said,
Speaker 2: they're not refuting the possibility that somebody might have thrown
Speaker 2: whatever the fuck behind them to try to get these
Speaker 2: dogs to chill out, even for a second as they
Speaker 2: were escaping.
Speaker 1: That's reasonable. I think we got I think, yeah.
Speaker 2: So you know, the internet did what the internet does,
Speaker 2: and niggas be lying, But but also you had to
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Speaker 3: Yeah, but that ain't a bad lot of that's a
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that don't hurt nobody. And I will say that
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