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Speaker 1: Get Up, Get Up, Get Up? What is up? Mets fans?

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to episode number one fifty one of the

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Speaker 1: Mets Stuff Podcast, the official podcast of the New York Mets.

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Speaker 1: This is the third time. As you might see if

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Speaker 1: you're watching the YouTube video, I am not in my apartment.

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Speaker 1: I'm actually at Veto's apartment. Luckily enough, we live very

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Speaker 1: close to each other, but I had to come over here.

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Speaker 1: I guess I was experienced some internet issues and me

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Speaker 1: and James have done this intro. This is now the

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Speaker 1: third time. Like I said, third time is the charm.

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Speaker 1: We're talking about the Mets, We're talking about baseball, we're

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Speaker 1: talking about our lives. You guys know the spiel. I

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Speaker 1: can't say it too much more because it is. We've

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Speaker 1: been saying it a lot. So make sure you're following us,

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Speaker 1: download and subscribe. James, I know how you're doing, but

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Speaker 1: I guess tell the people at home. I mean, this

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Speaker 1: is it's crazy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we've been doing interest for like a half hour now.

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Speaker 2: I just got back from a weekend in Columbus, an

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Speaker 2: extended weekend in Columbus for the Michigan Ohio State game.

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Speaker 2: Was as bad as it could possibly be. Again, I've

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Speaker 2: told this three times now, so it's just it just

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Speaker 2: makes the pain worse. It's like taking a little knife

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Speaker 2: and like putting a deeper and deeper into me. But

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Speaker 2: got last minute ticket to the game, sat in the

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Speaker 2: student section with a bunch of other old people because

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Speaker 2: it was just such an expensive ticket, and it was miserable.

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Speaker 2: It's cletely miserable. Fire Ryan Day. I pray to God

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Speaker 2: we will make the playoff. I don't want to see

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Speaker 2: it again. I don't want to get dismembered by Georgia.

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Speaker 2: I really don't. I just I can't. I can't, I

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Speaker 2: can't do it. It's pain. I've never felt pain like this.

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Speaker 1: Does no how to State fan, I feel like, through

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Speaker 1: speaking to you, though you weren't that high on this

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Speaker 1: Ohio State team this year, Like early in the year.

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Speaker 2: I mean I knew the second they started playing football,

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Speaker 2: Like they didn't really dominate any games, like CJ. Stroud

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Speaker 2: just never really impressed me that much. Like the stats

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Speaker 2: were always really good, but never seemed like he had

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Speaker 2: that like that next year where he's like, I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: win a game. Like he showed the motion for the

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Speaker 2: first time ever in this game, and Ryan, they still

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Speaker 2: made him punt.

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Speaker 1: It was like a not like a certain game Cock

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Speaker 1: quarterback who just puts the deam on his shoulder. Spencer

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Speaker 1: Rattler looking at the top the top QB prospect that

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Speaker 1: he once was. I thought he was gonna like a

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Speaker 1: lock to come back to South Carolina for his senior year.

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Speaker 1: But after Alwa's played these last two games against two

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Speaker 1: big time teams in Clemson and Tennessee and single handedly

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Speaker 1: leading these victories, I mean, I think he might leave.

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Speaker 1: And I'm kind of nervous because I'd love for to

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Speaker 1: see him for one more year with the greatest coaching

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Speaker 1: college football, Shane bean Er. Dabo Sweeney is a fraud.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, fire Ryan Day, But also I'm happy that Dabosweeny's

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Speaker 2: dead because I really hate that guy so much.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I mean he should retire because he said

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Speaker 1: that when the players start getting paid, that's when he's

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Speaker 1: out of college football. And we've known that Clemson's been

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Speaker 1: paying players ever since he got there because Dabo is

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Speaker 1: a rat at Soybean wind right, I believe is what

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Speaker 1: John Oliver called him.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and he's also always been a snake rail salesman

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Speaker 2: because the second he lost his amazing coordinators that they

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Speaker 2: he became bad because he was always bad.

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Speaker 1: Yep, he was never a good coach. Absolute fraud. The

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Speaker 1: game Cocks are the best team in the say of

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Speaker 1: So shout out to the games. Jeff mckits, This one's

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Speaker 1: for you, James. He told me he sent me a

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Speaker 1: personal message that he wanted to say to you. Clay. Yes,

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Speaker 1: Jeff mckits. I believe his dad was in Ohio state alum.

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Speaker 1: So this is this is good. It's gonna hit home. Specifically,

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Speaker 2: All right. Well, also, I was talking to my boy

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Speaker 2: I remember the show. We're both Mets, Jets, Nicks, Rangers

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Speaker 2: So shout out to the listeners who are our from

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Speaker 2: our collegists.

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Speaker 1: Now to talk about some actual baseball, I feel like

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Speaker 1: we should start with maybe some of the rumors that

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Speaker 1: been a few moves and I think that does impact

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Speaker 1: maybe some things that the Mets do or how the

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Speaker 1: of course, the Jacob de Ground one is still swirling.

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Speaker 1: I don't know who exactly put it out. I saw

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Speaker 1: the article by Pat Ragazzo from Sports Straded talking.

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Speaker 2: On the athletic Okay, going with the weak rumors. He

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Speaker 2: had a long blur about the grom.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and basically they were saying that they feel really,

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Speaker 1: the favorite and all this doesn't mean anything. It means

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Speaker 1: absolutely nothing, and again we know absolutely nothing. I wish

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Speaker 1: I want the ground back. It makes sense. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you gotta think of the teams that can actually pay

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Speaker 2: Not only does he bump you up to the luxury tax,

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Speaker 2: So that limits his market first off, from some of

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Speaker 2: And also of course it limits them from the small

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Speaker 2: quote unquote mystery team for Jacob de Gram, and this

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Speaker 2: You apparently the Rays were also involved with him before

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Speaker 2: he signed with Houston Astros. This happens to the Rays

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Speaker 2: every single last season where they get rumored to every

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Speaker 2: single free agent, like.

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Speaker 1: The veteran freeman.

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Speaker 2: Yes, because like for a one year or two year deal.

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Speaker 2: They're like, you know what if they we think this

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Speaker 2: but they never actually do it. Maybe they will with

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Speaker 2: but it seems like they're always that team, so then

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because we were all scared with Jacob de gram

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Speaker 1: basically he puts them in the second right immediately if

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Speaker 2: Do as of right now, and this came straight from

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Speaker 2: the Kenrose Dell article. They were just barely short of

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Speaker 2: to sign Jacob de Groam for forty million dollars, he

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Speaker 1: And the pitching markets super interesting too, because we saw

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Speaker 1: Clevenger go to the White Sox for what twelve million

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Speaker 1: but he's not good and they get twelve mil kind

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Speaker 1: of effects. I don't necessarily want to say Jacob de

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Speaker 1: the world, the Taiwan Walkers of the world, where if

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Speaker 2: I honestly think that is a little bit of a

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Speaker 2: I'm probably one of the high on Clevenger in terms

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Speaker 2: just considering that, like twelve million for a starting pitcher,

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Speaker 2: Like that's around like what Taiwan got coming off like

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Speaker 2: Drew Smiley. Yeah, Like that's that kind of contract. That's

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Speaker 2: mostly a guy who you see as like maxing you

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Speaker 2: out like one hundred and twenty ish indings or being

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Speaker 2: a bullpen star. The bouncer and Clevenger Clevenger. Last year,

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Speaker 2: but was something I noticed. He was one of only

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Speaker 1: Yeah, now he's he's not a sinker right this year,

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Speaker 2: And yeah, and I don't think that was even actually

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Speaker 2: one for Clevenger. It was his slyther, his color, and

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Speaker 2: And the White Sox never are probably not gonna be

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Speaker 2: probably is still a good picture inside of my Clevenger probably.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And I mean speaking of or connecting the White

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Speaker 1: Sox back to the Mets here apparently the Mets according

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Speaker 1: to Joel Sherman and Hayman and those guys on Twitter today,

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Speaker 1: I had a zoom meeting with Carlos Rodin, who I

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Speaker 1: don't want to say friend of the podcast because I

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Speaker 1: if I'm I don't know if I'm friends with Carlos Rodan.

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Speaker 2: Bray in the mess lineup, you have a very limited

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Speaker 2: amount of Hithers on your roster every single day, and

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Speaker 2: to have a lot of them do the exact same

435
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Speaker 2: thing isn't really the proper way the build a baseball team.

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Speaker 1: No, definitely not definitely not good player, just probably didn't

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Speaker 1: make sense. And again at that money too, Met's have

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Speaker 1: a center fielder and starting pitching and a lot of

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Speaker 1: different positions to take care of before figuring out who's

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Speaker 1: going to be our DH along with Dan vogelback.

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Speaker 2: Yes, and yeah, it's it. You know, sometimes roster construction

442
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Speaker 2: lets you have different advantages in different places, and they

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Speaker 2: can do that.

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Speaker 1: We were talking about this earlier too, off camera when

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Speaker 1: we were texting about figuring out what to talk about

446
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Speaker 1: on the podcast, because again we kind of have to

447
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Speaker 1: scrape together some ideas sometimes when it's been a slow week.

448
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Speaker 1: But we did see something that was kind of cool

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Speaker 1: that the Mets did, and that is Eric Shavaz being

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Speaker 1: promoted to the bench coach, which might not sound like anything,

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Speaker 1: but I think it was actually like a really cool

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Speaker 1: thing that they did.

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Speaker 2: I think so too, because Shav has just got such

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Speaker 2: brave reviews last year, like the entire year, members of

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Speaker 2: the team, team, the organization, the co the coaches, everyone

456
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Speaker 2: said they did a great job, even like and you

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Speaker 2: look at the way the Mets hit as a team

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Speaker 2: last year in his first year as the full time

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Speaker 2: hitting coach, and while like we might have different memories

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Speaker 2: of how the season ended, like if you look at

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Speaker 2: the full like the full sample of the entire season,

462
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Speaker 2: that's were one of the best offensive teams in baseball,

463
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Speaker 2: one the most productive, and the most got the most

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Speaker 2: value out of their bats. So it's clear who's doing

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Speaker 2: something right. Another big part of this move was that

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Speaker 2: that Jeremy Barnes was promoted to being out of the

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Speaker 2: hitting coach to take the place of Shaves. And that's

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Speaker 2: important because last year, I think he was the assistant

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Speaker 2: hitting coach, the hitting coordinator, one of those two roles,

470
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Speaker 2: and he was apparently getting a lot of team for

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Speaker 2: other teams trying to hire him as their hitting coach.

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Speaker 2: So this was a bit of the Mets like defense

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Speaker 2: in terms of coaching. We mentioned this a lot in

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Speaker 2: the show last year when the Mets promoted Zasma for

475
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Speaker 2: a similar reason. Ben Zausmi, assistant general manager, that you

476
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Speaker 2: kind of just have to like stay one step ahead

477
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Speaker 2: of the other teams because another team is allowed to

478
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Speaker 2: hire anybody from another organization as long as they get

479
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Speaker 2: like a promotion, as long as they get something better.

480
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Speaker 2: And this little, like this little bit of chess that

481
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Speaker 2: these major league organizations play with each other to maintain

482
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Speaker 2: their own coaches is one of my favorite elements of

483
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Speaker 2: the entire game. So cool that we saw the Mets

484
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Speaker 2: do it and do it promote the guy who probably

485
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Speaker 2: is very deserving of it.

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Speaker 1: A big shout out to Glen Sherlock. Glen Sherlock was

487
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Speaker 1: the bench coach, still with the team, still with the organization.

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Speaker 1: He's just now like what they call him, the catching Specialist,

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Speaker 1: which I feel like, like that such an awesome name.

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Speaker 1: That's just like teach Francisco Alvarez had to catch.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, just figure it out, get next to him and

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Speaker 2: help him out all day long. Which is great.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I mean talking about another DH option. Maybe

494
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Speaker 1: Francisco Alvarez too, depending how he played it. Swings in spring.

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Speaker 2: Trading absolutely and just spending on how well his other

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Speaker 2: options shakeout, because the Mets do have a lot of

497
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Speaker 2: guys who can fill that role. It's just none of

498
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Speaker 2: them are gonna be as probably as good as a

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Speaker 2: dish as Jose Bray.

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Speaker 3: You.

501
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Speaker 2: But there are options and there's still I mean, no

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Speaker 2: one's been signed yet. The winter meetings don't even start

503
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Speaker 2: for another ten days. Like a lot is the teams

504
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Speaker 2: is roster. I think it's going to look a lot

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Speaker 2: different very soon. Yeah we have again, we will know anything,

506
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Speaker 2: We will know anything. I don't know. I think the

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Speaker 2: roster could look different soon.

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Speaker 1: Maybe it's the weird thing. This is our first off

509
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Speaker 1: season now with the Mets, so we we were before

510
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Speaker 1: we could say that stuff and it it really didn't

511
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Speaker 1: mean much because we were just doing our own podcast.

512
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Speaker 1: Now I have to be like, we don't know anything,

513
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Speaker 1: because it's true we don't. I again can't stress enough.

514
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Speaker 1: I wish we had inside him for I really do it.

515
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Speaker 1: Be cool, be really cool, cool. We got elevated. Buddy

516
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Speaker 1: up with Billy Eppler. See what he's got. He has

517
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Speaker 1: to listen. He probably knows he's he's been hearing all

518
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Speaker 1: the weird pictures that you throw out every week. James,

519
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Speaker 1: he's got him circled. He's like, these are the guys.

520
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Speaker 1: James Giano's the pitching whisperer.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna get an email one day. They're like, hey,

522
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Speaker 2: you want to come in for a few minutes, but yeah.

523
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Speaker 1: Tell me about why Chad cool slider will really thrive outside.

524
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Speaker 2: Of course, we'll look at this all right, We'll get

525
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Speaker 2: it one day.

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Speaker 1: I guess in just like cool stuff. This is the

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Speaker 1: one year, relatively one year anniversary of max Ers are

528
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Speaker 1: signing with the New York Mets. And as we know,

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Speaker 1: that's also the reason why we work with the New

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Speaker 1: York Mets. And they found us pretty cool, pretty cool.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the Max Suers had a pretty good first year.

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Speaker 1: Obviously we want a little more health, a little more

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Speaker 1: availability on the field. But what he was, I mean,

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Speaker 1: he still was great.

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Speaker 2: Yes, And this actually also is to the day when

536
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Speaker 2: recording this. November twenty ninth, the six year anniversary of

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Speaker 2: Uni Cesspas is a large contract with the team.

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Speaker 1: Oh wow, yeah, so what are those like? The last

539
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Speaker 1: two big contracts the Mets have given out basically.

540
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Speaker 2: Relatively more or less four for one ten, and with

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Speaker 2: shows's actual numbers, it's like three for one hundred and

542
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Speaker 2: twenty something, one hundred and thirty one or thirty two.

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Speaker 1: A lot of money, a lot of money. I maybe

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Speaker 1: I'm saying this as being a little annoying.

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Speaker 2: Today actually is. Yeah, November twentynine is the official official

546
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Speaker 2: one year for shares are as Well.

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Speaker 1: We're right, I'd give Cespez the money all over again.

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Speaker 1: I would I sign me up, sign me up. I

549
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Speaker 1: know he ended up getting hurt in a weird way

550
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Speaker 1: and his career ended weird with the Mets, but man,

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Speaker 1: the high one he was here was incredible.

552
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Speaker 2: I probably wouldn't running Mauricio also, Winter League King just

553
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Speaker 2: hit a long, towering home run really really stared at

554
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Speaker 2: us for a while. Twenty rbs and thirty seven games

555
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Speaker 2: to make it win a league for running. Marasio he's

556
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Speaker 2: been looking cut. I saw him post a picture on Instagram.

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Speaker 1: Dude's putting on some muscle, which is good because I

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Speaker 1: mean he's still young, and so he's like just becoming

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Speaker 1: like what like a junior in college essentially, which is

560
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Speaker 1: when I feel like these guys actually start to get muscles.

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Speaker 2: That's kind of insane.

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Speaker 3: Think about right.

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Speaker 2: Like I was like on a camp of college camps

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Speaker 2: the last couple of days.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's what twenty one, right, I think he's not

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Speaker 1: twenty he's twenty one, twenty two.

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Speaker 2: I think twenty one right now.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's he's putting together a good winner league, and

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Speaker 1: that's never something we will complain about.

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Speaker 2: I'm Mariscio. On MLB's website, is listed one hundred and

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Speaker 2: sixty six pounds.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we know that's not true. We've seen the guy

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Speaker 1: in person.

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Speaker 2: That's like only a few more than me.

575
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Speaker 1: One of the funniest weights I've ever seen listed was

576
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Speaker 1: for us Waldo Cabrera before he actually got called up

577
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Speaker 1: for the Yankees this year. At one point they had

578
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Speaker 1: him at I think five eleven, one hundred and thirty pounds,

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Speaker 1: and I was like, that's.

580
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Speaker 2: Was as Waldo was that the short style. I I

581
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Speaker 2: would get confused, Oh, Cabrera the utility guy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah he's he's the utility guy. He's the guy. Oh

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Speaker 1: you're Mike nows Waldo is like the utility guy. He's

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Speaker 1: the guy who plays like all those different positions and yeah, yeah,

585
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Speaker 1: but I mean, in case you guys didn't know a

586
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Speaker 1: little behind the scenes of this episode's Cursed. James and

587
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Speaker 1: Mike just unplugged during the middle of the episode.

588
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Speaker 2: Terrible and even I literally didn't even move the ires

589
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Speaker 2: all on my table very nicely in the line to

590
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Speaker 2: just stop working.

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Speaker 1: In episode one we want to remember for us, I

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Speaker 1: don't know, hopefully it's one for you guys to remember too.

593
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Speaker 1: Hopefully you're enjoying the chaos that is episode number one

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Speaker 1: fifty one. Anything else in the baseball world to really

595
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Speaker 1: talk about. I feel like the cool stuff that's been

596
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Speaker 1: happening has been like World Cup related, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I mean.

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Speaker 2: The other one thing we should just mention briefly is

599
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Speaker 2: that Baseball America's top ten Mets prospects came out the

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Speaker 2: other day. Our friend of the show, Matt Eddie, did

601
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Speaker 2: a little conversation with some Mets fans on Twitter, basically

602
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Speaker 2: people asking about, like what the system's gonna look like

603
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Speaker 2: with a lot of players graduating at once, where the

604
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Speaker 2: system needs work, where it needs help. Because Baseball America

605
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Speaker 2: actually ranked the Mets I think eighth overall.

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Speaker 1: I mean we have a good we like our top

607
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Speaker 1: ten is good. It's just that we do lack the

608
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Speaker 1: I think organizational depth that a lot of like maybe

609
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Speaker 1: the Rangers have or something like that.

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Speaker 2: Yes, and they I know that they love as an organization.

611
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Speaker 2: They do, they love out for us. They just think

612
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Speaker 2: the power of the power floor is incredibly high, and

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Speaker 2: which I agree with.

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Speaker 1: We watched them play last year. He hit some balls

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Speaker 1: and you're like, wow, those are hit really hard and

616
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Speaker 1: you're twenty and you probably really are just starting to

617
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Speaker 1: figure it out, maybe even like isn't it weird to

618
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Speaker 1: think about what we consider primes and how hard he

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Speaker 1: hits the ball now and how much better he's probably

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Speaker 1: gonna get over his time, Like, oh, he's so cool.

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Speaker 1: Francis squad versus the Man. I can't believe we interviewed.

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Speaker 2: Him and now a long time ago that was that

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Speaker 2: was also funny to interview him. And that's also that's

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Speaker 2: not available anywhere because you have never put it on YouTube.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

626
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Speaker 2: I asked you for years to put it on YouTube.

627
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Speaker 2: Never done it once. Got to bring it back for

628
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Speaker 2: the Messed Up channel. Yeah, yeah, first uploading like a

629
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Speaker 2: year put it on there. But that was the first

630
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Speaker 2: moment we were like, all right, we can actually do this,

631
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Speaker 2: Like this is pretty legit.

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Speaker 1: I wo'd be cool. To see if Francisco remembers I

633
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Speaker 1: wonder how many people he got interviewed by actually in Brooklyn.

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Speaker 2: It'd be yeah, I mean it'd be it'd be hard

635
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Speaker 2: for him. I'm not I'm not gonna like tow their

636
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Speaker 2: own horse. It'd be hard for him to remember us

637
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Speaker 2: because we didn't even like speak his language. I think

638
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Speaker 2: we have a better chance of like Brett Bay remembering

639
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Speaker 2: us because we that was like funny, like we got

640
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Speaker 2: him as like the only people to follow you who

641
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Speaker 2: probably interviewed him, and it was swirling wins. But I

642
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Speaker 2: think I mean Alfarez like maybe like we didn't speak

643
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Speaker 2: his language, it's hard to actually connect.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's a good point. Although he was having

645
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Speaker 1: fun with us with the test and the mics and

646
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Speaker 1: all that he was, he was having a good time.

647
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Speaker 1: And maybe we'll get to talk to Francisco this year.

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Speaker 1: I hope we do, and I unfortunately I don't think

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Speaker 1: Ernie will be coming along as the translator this time.

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Speaker 2: It would be nice if he did, I mean it

651
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Speaker 2: would be it would be would be that do you

652
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Speaker 2: want to actually have a chance to remember us, like

653
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Speaker 2: here are these two guys in their own translator that's

654
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Speaker 2: the way to do it.

655
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Speaker 1: Bring our nest, though, bring him with us.

656
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Speaker 2: New Mets fan Brandy was we saw Randy the Wildcard series.

657
00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:28,639
Speaker 2: He'll be around. Shoutout Alexander.

658
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Speaker 1: Randy is a legend. Hopefully he's listening. What's up, Randy?

659
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Speaker 1: And I mean, I really wish there was more baseball.

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Speaker 1: I really wish there was more baseball. I'm dying for it,

661
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Speaker 1: especially on the YouTube side. I am really itching for

662
00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:44,359
Speaker 1: a big move to happen. Does who's the first domino

663
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Speaker 1: to fall? James of the big big names? Is it changing?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I've been saying Jacobs de Gram. I mean, do

665
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Speaker 2: you count Jose Brady as a big domino?

666
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Speaker 1: No, I don't count him as a domino because, like

667
00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:56,320
Speaker 1: you know, he doesn't change the market though, like at all.

668
00:24:56,640 --> 00:25:00,920
Speaker 1: Like him and Anthony Rizzo are relatively similar if value players,

669
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Speaker 1: and Rizzo signed already, so.

670
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Speaker 2: It's kind of weird they got almost the same contract

671
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Speaker 2: in Rizzo was at least he's younger by a good bit.

672
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Speaker 1: I think he's two or three years younger. I think

673
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Speaker 1: he's thirty three right now, and that's gonna be his

674
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Speaker 1: thirty three year old season or Bro, you will be

675
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Speaker 1: his thirty six year old season.

676
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Speaker 2: So yeah, we're really scraping here for baseball, guys, is

677
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Speaker 2: all we got.

678
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Speaker 1: We do have, though, you guys liked it, cap or

679
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Speaker 1: no cap, and John has some questions for us about

680
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Speaker 1: Max Suers or since this is the one year anniversary,

681
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Speaker 1: John Rock and the USA kit, as they say it

682
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Speaker 1: over in Europe. Big win for USA today over Iran Iran,

683
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Speaker 1: A correct Iran Iran.

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Speaker 2: Okay, there's a point that was a point of contention

685
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Speaker 2: in one of the press conferences. Did you hear that

686
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Speaker 2: clip of the guy getting really mad?

687
00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:52,480
Speaker 4: Tyler Adams handled it perfectly, absolutely perfectly, because listen, like

688
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Speaker 4: I think it's right to get the pronunciations correct, but

689
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Speaker 4: it seemed like the guy was looking for trouble and

690
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Speaker 4: he handled it beautifully, very respectfully.

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Speaker 1: And here's something you should be proud of.

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Speaker 3: Ran. All right, Josh, I believe it doesn't matter.

693
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Speaker 1: You should probably stop we should probably keep saying it,

694
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Speaker 1: stop saying it for all and just move on.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, just like the USA moved on today with a

696
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Speaker 3: brilliant one nothing victory. Just what an incredible, what incredible,

697
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Speaker 3: exhilarating victory. James, there's one thing I want to bring

698
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Speaker 3: up that. First of all, you're not mentioning that you

699
00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:25,960
Speaker 3: were hanging out with Brian Hously and I spent the

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Speaker 3: whole day with that.

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Speaker 1: That's Hollywood, James.

702
00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:33,359
Speaker 3: Now that's awesome, very cool, But there is there's something

703
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Speaker 3: that you need to share with the listeners because you

704
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Speaker 3: told me this secret, and I'm going to play this.

705
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Speaker 3: So the last I think you said the last two

706
00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:45,919
Speaker 3: times Ohio State lost to Michigan. What happened immediately after.

707
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Speaker 2: The last two times o Higo State lost in Michigan

708
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Speaker 2: and football? They immediately beat Duke in.

709
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Speaker 3: Basketball, and obviously the big game tomorrow that everyone in

710
00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:56,080
Speaker 3: the country's going to be watching is the number ten

711
00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:59,480
Speaker 3: Hoosiers taking on I think number eighteen North Carolina at

712
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Speaker 3: Assembly Hall. And the appetizer for that is James.

713
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:05,600
Speaker 2: The Buck guys, the buck guys in the Blue Devils.

714
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Speaker 3: So if you're out there and you're listening and you

715
00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:12,320
Speaker 3: fancy yourself a sharp sounds like a lot to me.

716
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Speaker 3: I don't know.

717
00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:15,280
Speaker 2: I won't say that, absolutely not, but we'll be sure.

718
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Speaker 1: Whatever Johnny stats, he's got the numbers for us.

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Speaker 3: Well, look, I my heart goes out to James. I

720
00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:23,200
Speaker 3: actually felt terrible.

721
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Speaker 1: And I didn't. Why what do you feel bad for him?

722
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Speaker 3: I texted the group and I asked if you were

723
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:30,560
Speaker 3: actually there?

724
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:32,719
Speaker 2: Oh, yeah I was. I was actually there.

725
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:35,800
Speaker 1: There's no feeling bad for James. He's seen a national championship,

726
00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:38,480
Speaker 1: He's seen a lot of success. No feeling pity for him. John,

727
00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:40,400
Speaker 1: you went to Indiana too, don't feel bad for the guy.

728
00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:42,280
Speaker 1: They stomped you all the time every year.

729
00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:45,240
Speaker 2: No, Actually, John, feel bad because the Indian always played

730
00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:46,560
Speaker 2: on high to stay close until recently.

731
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean look like you're You're totally right. You know.

732
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:52,400
Speaker 3: It's like when the Yankees lose. Do I feel bad

733
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:55,359
Speaker 3: for a Yankee fan? Absolutely not. I felt bad that

734
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:58,479
Speaker 3: James as the diehard Buckeye fan that he was, and

735
00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:01,800
Speaker 3: it really showed through with the little quit just to

736
00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:04,240
Speaker 3: kick this podcast off. Like I felt it, it sounded

737
00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:06,600
Speaker 3: like a ws AN caller, except on whatever the hell

738
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Speaker 3: the call letters are out in Columbus to go and

739
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Speaker 3: travel and be there at you know, like the plane

740
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:16,960
Speaker 3: round trip, and you actually drove.

741
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Speaker 2: I drove there one way and flew the way back.

742
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Speaker 3: Okay, that's a me Ma, you drove there?

743
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Speaker 2: I mean, dude, because I didn't know I was going

744
00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:27,639
Speaker 2: to do this until like the day before, and the

745
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:29,359
Speaker 2: flights are insane to get a flight that quickly. The

746
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Speaker 2: day before and Thanksgiving weekend and my my one o

747
00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:34,159
Speaker 2: friend Tyler, him and all three of his brothers went

748
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:35,960
Speaker 2: to Ohio State and it's like a tradition of their family.

749
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Speaker 2: Their dad drives. The one kid back was still in school,

750
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Speaker 2: Jackson junior right now, and Tyler was like, we have

751
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Speaker 2: a spot in the car. It's just hopping. We left.

752
00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:45,040
Speaker 2: We left Friday morning like ten am.

753
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Speaker 1: Jack being how long is that?

754
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:46,880
Speaker 3: How long does that drive?

755
00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:49,760
Speaker 2: Eight hours? We actually got there in like seven to twenty.

756
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Speaker 2: It was kind of incredible. Charlie Leadfoot over there, Charlie Charlie, Charlie,

757
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:56,720
Speaker 2: Charlie Leadfoot were just like it was the four grown

758
00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:58,360
Speaker 2: men in the car like we took We took literally

759
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Speaker 2: one break where everybody got food and went to the

760
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Speaker 2: bathroom exactly halfway through two hundred and fifty miles in.

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Speaker 1: It's impressive.

762
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Speaker 3: Eight It's not terrible. My drive to Indiana when I

763
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 3: used to drive out there was twelve.

764
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I've done that. We've done the eighth so many

765
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Speaker 2: times now too.

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Speaker 1: Just like having a South Carolina was like a twelve

767
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Speaker 1: hour day because of my stops and everything like that.

768
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Speaker 1: But it was like, I think around six hundred and

769
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Speaker 1: sixty miles, so it's about about ten eleven hours usually.

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Speaker 3: Man. When I was younger, one time driving out to Indiana,

771
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:28,200
Speaker 3: I got pulled. I got pulled over in Ohio for

772
00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:32,920
Speaker 3: going way too fast because eventually the road it's just mesmerizing.

773
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Speaker 2: Like, yeah, that's also done Indiana drive. I'm sure it

774
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Speaker 2: was it rude evy or was seventy six? Just high

775
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:39,400
Speaker 2: highway talking the Messed Up podcast. Yeah, this is where

776
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:41,760
Speaker 2: we're at.

777
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Speaker 3: Seventy seventy.

778
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Speaker 2: Yeah, seventy is a great place to get a ticket.

779
00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:46,680
Speaker 2: I've got tickets on there before. Oh, John, I tell you,

780
00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:50,479
Speaker 2: actually I was. This was twenty twenty. I was just

781
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:52,440
Speaker 2: I was. I was when I was living market time.

782
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Speaker 2: I just did like a month on the road and

783
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Speaker 2: two separate months on the road. The second one, I

784
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:57,680
Speaker 2: just lived one of my friends in Columbus for another

785
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Speaker 2: month just to hang. And I was driving. It was

786
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Speaker 2: during that the really really crazy i U Ohio State

787
00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:07,920
Speaker 2: football game, and I was listening to the radio. It

788
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:09,800
Speaker 2: was going down the last second and I got pulled

789
00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:12,800
Speaker 2: over into two minute drill and I told the cop

790
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:16,600
Speaker 2: in Ohio. I was like the Buckeyes, I don't know

791
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:18,560
Speaker 2: what to do right now. And he was like, all right,

792
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:22,200
Speaker 2: just please please, no doubt. That's awesome.

793
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:25,680
Speaker 3: The Hoosiers just inflicting fear. Yeah, you got all. I

794
00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:29,240
Speaker 3: never forget my jersey plates. I got a big ticket.

795
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:32,480
Speaker 3: I had to go to London, Ohio to uh to

796
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Speaker 3: fight that one. I'm not fight that one. But I

797
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:36,960
Speaker 3: was very guilty of going very fast.

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Speaker 1: But you learned load a mistake. It was. It was

799
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Speaker 1: a day of growth for you.

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Speaker 3: Oh, I don't go a mile over the speed limit.

801
00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:46,640
Speaker 3: Now you can check my driving record. I pride myself

802
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:49,480
Speaker 3: on being a responsible, safe driver anyway. So, like you

803
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Speaker 3: guys mentioned, it is the anniversary of Max Scherzer, and

804
00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:54,720
Speaker 3: it's crazy. It's just one year ago that we were

805
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:57,960
Speaker 3: all refreshing Twitter. We didn't know each other. Max Scherzer

806
00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:01,040
Speaker 3: was becoming a met The MLB lock was impending, like

807
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 3: forty eight hours away before all the player headshots went away.

808
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:06,840
Speaker 3: For what seemed like a lifetime, it was only a

809
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:07,680
Speaker 3: couple months.

810
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 1: But we held the largest Twitter space there had ever been.

811
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:13,719
Speaker 1: So let that be known Mark Luino and James Ciano,

812
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:15,680
Speaker 1: pioneers of Twitter spaces and.

813
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:16,680
Speaker 2: One of the longest.

814
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 3: Some people say it was the peak of Twitter and

815
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:20,600
Speaker 3: now it's going in the wrong direction, but I don't

816
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 3: know anyway. So to commemorate the anniversary of Max Scherzer,

817
00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:27,960
Speaker 3: I did some digging about Max Scherzer, and not his

818
00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 3: baseball career because a lot of us know the stats.

819
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:31,960
Speaker 3: Three times Cy Young Winner, the guys of Hall of

820
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 3: Fame or just one a two hundred game. The more

821
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:38,800
Speaker 3: personal things about Matt Scherzer, very interesting character, very cerebral

822
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:40,960
Speaker 3: fellow too, is you guys got to know firsthand what

823
00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:45,480
Speaker 3: the interview you did with him. So our second edition

824
00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:47,960
Speaker 3: of CAP or No Cap is going to be Max

825
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:50,480
Speaker 3: Scherzer themed. So this is how it's going to go.

826
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Speaker 3: And I know that you guys both know the rules.

827
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:55,600
Speaker 3: Cat means it's not true, No CAP means it's a fact.

828
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Speaker 3: I am going to make a statement. You guys are

829
00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:01,440
Speaker 3: both gonna have the chance to chime in and say

830
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:03,280
Speaker 3: whether it's Kaper or Kap're not gonna go back and

831
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:05,600
Speaker 3: forth like last time. I'm just going to make a statement,

832
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 3: And for those listening, I will pretty much call on

833
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 3: whoever puts their hand up first with the answer, and

834
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:12,680
Speaker 3: if you get it wrong, you get a point, and

835
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:15,040
Speaker 3: if you get it wrong, you go backwards like we

836
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:17,520
Speaker 3: usually do. Vino and I are going to actually have

837
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:20,600
Speaker 3: a surprise for you guys for the next episode based

838
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:22,880
Speaker 3: on who wins or loses this. So that's that's gonna

839
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:24,680
Speaker 3: be good. So we're not going to tell you still

840
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:27,160
Speaker 3: next episode. Oh yeah, be a surprise, guys.

841
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:28,200
Speaker 1: You can be able to sleep.

842
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:30,680
Speaker 3: I don't like surprise, well you don't.

843
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:32,480
Speaker 2: I mean, they're fine whatever.

844
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:34,840
Speaker 3: If you were having a baby, would you want to

845
00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:36,200
Speaker 3: know the gender or do you want to wait?

846
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:39,720
Speaker 2: I would know it, and whenever that happens in thirty years,

847
00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:41,120
Speaker 2: I would like to know as soon as possible.

848
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:42,959
Speaker 1: Gender reveal party will do it?

849
00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:46,320
Speaker 2: No, I would, absolutely, I would. I would either. I

850
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 2: would rather do terrible things to myself to have a

851
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:49,240
Speaker 2: gender reveal party.

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00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:51,680
Speaker 1: Totally going to do the soft toss into like hitting

853
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:53,520
Speaker 1: the ball and seeing what color it is. That's that's

854
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:57,240
Speaker 1: just gotta make sure you hit it. You can't do it.

855
00:32:57,440 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 1: You can't do a Kirk Cousins and miss the target.

856
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:04,160
Speaker 3: Mm hmm, nightmare. That's nightmare of fuel. All right, anyway,

857
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:07,680
Speaker 3: so let's get going with these max s are facts.

858
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Speaker 3: Our first one, Max Scherzer was a soccer star in

859
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:16,080
Speaker 3: high school, top all the World Cup, Mark, no cap,

860
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:21,840
Speaker 3: m it's cap. He was a basketball, baseball and football player.

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00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:22,600
Speaker 2: That's not soccer.

862
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:23,760
Speaker 3: Not play soccer.

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Speaker 1: You know what it was? I thought, foul, foul. I

864
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:29,320
Speaker 1: thought he mixed in a little soccer just because like

865
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Speaker 1: even had to.

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Speaker 2: Be the keeper. He's too big to be on the field.

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Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, you the soccer players have some

868
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:36,080
Speaker 1: height to spend. Ronaldo like one of.

869
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:39,920
Speaker 3: The best defenders forward to a lot.

870
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:42,120
Speaker 1: Of forwards, have Roman, I can name him off. You guys,

871
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:44,640
Speaker 1: are you're talking to the guy who actually know soccer.

872
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:47,520
Speaker 2: Over sixty three? Sixty three, Mark, that's not look at

873
00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:51,560
Speaker 2: Romo Lulucaku. Guys like drum so actual, like some of

874
00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:54,800
Speaker 2: the most advanced players in the world. Yes, yes, okay, but.

875
00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:59,200
Speaker 1: I loves we love short kings over here.

876
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 3: Yeah anyway, all right, so that's a minus one from Mark.

877
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:06,000
Speaker 1: That's a shame I didn't know ours.

878
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:05,600
Speaker 2: All right.

879
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:10,680
Speaker 3: Yes, our our next fact, Max and his wife Erica

880
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:18,240
Speaker 3: are avid scuba divers. James no cap you are correct,

881
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:20,160
Speaker 3: they are actually avid scuba divers.

882
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:21,720
Speaker 2: Read that somewhere random the one time.

883
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I think right before we interviewed him,

884
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 3: I threw that at you, guys. The interview was literally incredible,

885
00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:30,760
Speaker 3: so there was no need to bring.

886
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:32,840
Speaker 2: Up I think you threw that. That's like right before

887
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:34,040
Speaker 2: it started, he was like, yo, by the way, the

888
00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:35,440
Speaker 2: big scooa divers. We're like, I don't want to hear

889
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:35,839
Speaker 2: that right.

890
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:37,279
Speaker 1: Now, Like what do I don't even know what to

891
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:39,719
Speaker 1: ask him, Like, how do you you bring the same

892
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:42,000
Speaker 1: intensity to scuba diving as you do on the mound?

893
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:44,200
Speaker 2: Like, Max, hold your breath right now for as long

894
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:44,960
Speaker 2: as you can go.

895
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:47,440
Speaker 1: That would have been so funny. We should have done that.

896
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:50,040
Speaker 3: That actually would have been hilarious. Next time spring training.

897
00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:53,000
Speaker 3: By the way, what a scuba stand for? Anyone know? Uh?

898
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:54,440
Speaker 1: Science?

899
00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:55,440
Speaker 3: No?

900
00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 1: Okay, I don't know.

901
00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:59,239
Speaker 3: Self contained underwater breathing apparatus.

902
00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:00,360
Speaker 1: Come on, guys, her.

903
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:08,440
Speaker 3: Okay. Number three. Max Schurzer was a finance major at

904
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:10,200
Speaker 3: the University of Mississippi.

905
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 2: Oh CAP, Yeah, it's CAP.

906
00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:16,479
Speaker 3: Why is it CAP?

907
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:17,880
Speaker 2: Because he went to Missouri.

908
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:24,120
Speaker 3: There you go, that's good. That's good. That's good. Attention

909
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:25,840
Speaker 3: to detail. I like that because last time with the

910
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:28,560
Speaker 3: Doctor Zeuss books, you guys weren't paying a close attention

911
00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:31,480
Speaker 3: to detail. So this is good. So you guys both

912
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:33,440
Speaker 3: got that one. I think we can all agree that.

913
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 2: Well before markedin.

914
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:38,560
Speaker 1: Listen, there's delay. We know we've been having experiencing issues here.

915
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:42,520
Speaker 1: I mean, come on, looked like I was first.

916
00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:45,680
Speaker 3: Oh, Dave, I still chapped about the Edwin Diaz.

917
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:49,279
Speaker 2: Because this is true, you gamed it.

918
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:50,240
Speaker 1: Listen.

919
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:54,680
Speaker 2: Chaven points over here. John John has Vince McMahon's podcast.

920
00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:56,040
Speaker 2: You guys don't see it behind the scenes.

921
00:35:57,120 --> 00:36:02,800
Speaker 3: That's not that's cap. Okay. The next one, Christopher walk

922
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:08,160
Speaker 3: In and Alexander the Great also had heterochromia, which, for

923
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 3: those who don't know, is two different colored eyes caepro

924
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:14,320
Speaker 3: no cap, Yes, Mark.

925
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:18,640
Speaker 1: That's cap. Christopher Walkin's hazel eyed man from a story

926
00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 1: as well.

927
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 3: It's no cap. There's no way I would have thought

928
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 3: to make those two names. There's not a chance.

929
00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:27,759
Speaker 2: How do we How do we know that Alexander the

930
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:28,920
Speaker 2: Great two different colored eyes?

931
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:31,680
Speaker 1: That is true? You know what, Asterix, don't count it?

932
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:36,320
Speaker 2: Take it back? No, for sure, meticulous records.

933
00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 1: I don't believe it. This game is under protest.

934
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:41,920
Speaker 3: All right, well I will. I will prove it to

935
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:44,160
Speaker 3: you guys after so you can protest all you want.

936
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:48,200
Speaker 3: But it's no cap, It's true. Okay, all right, there

937
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 3: we go. Max owns a restaurant in Washington, DC that

938
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:58,080
Speaker 3: only serves shrimp caepro, no cat.

939
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 1: Oh what, James, no cap? He can't.

940
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:09,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, I know I was gonna say, I just

941
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:11,120
Speaker 2: an appetizer.

942
00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:11,720
Speaker 3: You can't.

943
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:16,360
Speaker 1: Bubba gum bubble gum bullies shrimp, isn't it?

944
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:19,319
Speaker 3: They sell so much? First of all, who's going to

945
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:20,000
Speaker 3: bubble gump?

946
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 1: I mean not me. I don't like shrimp, but okay.

947
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:28,680
Speaker 3: You know what, Shrimp's good as an appetizer. Some cocktail

948
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:31,439
Speaker 3: is good, But like, who's ordering shrimp for their main?

949
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:32,600
Speaker 3: I don't know.

950
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:34,800
Speaker 2: You get a shrimp, scampy jumbo shrimp?

951
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:35,399
Speaker 1: Is that what they're called?

952
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 3: Right?

953
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:38,719
Speaker 1: Jumbo shrimp? You get some jumbo some prawns, prawns or shrimp?

954
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:40,040
Speaker 1: Aren't they shrimp?

955
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:40,319
Speaker 3: And your.

956
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:42,759
Speaker 1: Yeah?

957
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 3: All right, I got two more for you guys, real quick.

958
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:45,920
Speaker 2: Fine hit it.

959
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:50,120
Speaker 3: During the twenty fifteen offseason, Max and his wife got

960
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:53,400
Speaker 3: a dog named Rocco, who also has two colored eyes.

961
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:56,240
Speaker 1: Mark, no cap, that's true.

962
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:59,279
Speaker 3: That that is correct. That is correct. There's a there's

963
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:02,160
Speaker 3: a tweet to to to verify that. Roco is a

964
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:04,839
Speaker 3: very cute doggie. I believe they have four dogs right now.

965
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:06,239
Speaker 3: They do a lot of they do a lot of

966
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:09,920
Speaker 3: work with animals, which I greatly admire. So that's awesome.

967
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:11,319
Speaker 3: What are you guys laughing at that? I said, Roco

968
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:12,240
Speaker 3: is a very cute doggie.

969
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:14,759
Speaker 1: You being like thirty years old and saying doggie is

970
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 1: very fine, John, which she was theirty I believe he's

971
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:22,359
Speaker 1: thirty one. Oh, thank you James for that his piazza year.

972
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:26,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, it nauseated me to hear you talking about the Olds.

973
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:29,439
Speaker 3: I was. I was on a line at the bar

974
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:32,640
Speaker 3: this weekend in Bloomington, and I was talking to some

975
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:35,399
Speaker 3: girls that were on the swimming team and I was like, yeah,

976
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:38,839
Speaker 3: it's my first time here since like twenty fourteen, and

977
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:42,000
Speaker 3: they were like twenty fourteen, what are you thirty? And

978
00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:44,640
Speaker 3: I was like, well, actually I'm thirty one, but thank

979
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:46,000
Speaker 3: you rubbing it.

980
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:48,640
Speaker 2: In so oh yeah. There was there was one young

981
00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:50,120
Speaker 2: young lady in the student second. She was like, are

982
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:51,680
Speaker 2: you a junior or a senior. I was like, thank

983
00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:52,200
Speaker 2: you so much.

984
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:55,120
Speaker 1: You don't know what you just did to me. My

985
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:56,400
Speaker 1: head is so big right now.

986
00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:58,560
Speaker 3: Do anything that you live in a dorm?

987
00:38:59,120 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 2: She actually did.

988
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, just a sophomore formal life. It's good stuff, all right.

989
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 3: Here's the last one. Max Scherzer was traded in a

990
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 3: three way deal from the Diamondbacks to the Tigers that

991
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:16,000
Speaker 3: also sent Marcus Thames to the Yankees. Cap or no cap?

992
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:20,440
Speaker 1: Oh man, There's a lot of truth in there. But

993
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:25,080
Speaker 1: is the Marcus? Isn't it pronounced Tims? Marcus Tims? There's whatever,

994
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:28,440
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter. I feel like I need to get

995
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:30,040
Speaker 1: myself out of a hole here, so I'm gonna I'm

996
00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:33,000
Speaker 1: gonna get involved. I'm gonna call that. I'm gonna say

997
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 1: it's cap. I don't think that happened.

998
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:37,200
Speaker 3: That is correct?

999
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:41,600
Speaker 2: It was, yeah, Yeah, the other was true.

1000
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:44,640
Speaker 1: Though. Did did Marcus Tims ever play for the Yankees?

1001
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:46,320
Speaker 1: Or is he just their hitting coach? Because I remember

1002
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:47,279
Speaker 1: him on the Tigers.

1003
00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:49,399
Speaker 2: He I mean that trade also? Did didn't that trade

1004
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 2: send like Phil Hughes or something in it? There's some

1005
00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:54,399
Speaker 2: one of the one of the classic coaches, maybe him.

1006
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:57,400
Speaker 3: Was involved in that trade. Marcus Thams did play for

1007
00:39:57,440 --> 00:39:59,160
Speaker 3: the Yankees, by the way, and then I believe he

1008
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:01,520
Speaker 3: went on to be the hitting coach or some sort

1009
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:02,440
Speaker 3: of hitting instructor for.

1010
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:04,640
Speaker 1: That definitely, definitely hitting coach. And now he's the he

1011
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:06,200
Speaker 1: just got hired to be the new hitting coach. I

1012
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:08,880
Speaker 1: want to say for the Angels. I feel like I

1013
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:11,680
Speaker 1: know that from somewhere, but I guess it also that.

1014
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:14,960
Speaker 3: Trade was that trade was wild. First of all, Daniel Schlaret,

1015
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 3: son of Mark schla was involved in that trade. Oh yeah,

1016
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:20,000
Speaker 3: Edwin Jackson and went on to throw a no hitter

1017
00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:26,000
Speaker 3: for the Diamondbacks, Yes, in Tampa Bay right, I don't

1018
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:26,719
Speaker 3: know Bay.

1019
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 1: I think he also has the record for playing for

1020
00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:31,400
Speaker 1: the most teams in Major League Baseball history.

1021
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 3: Did he break off to Octavio Dotel's record category. That's

1022
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:39,680
Speaker 3: that's tough. That's that's a great record. That's a great fact.

1023
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:41,759
Speaker 3: Ian Kennedy was also in that trade.

1024
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:42,960
Speaker 2: That's who it was, Ian Kennedy.

1025
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:45,239
Speaker 1: Ah, that makes sense. Yeah, that that that grouping of

1026
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:48,320
Speaker 1: Ian Kennedy, Phil Hughes, they like all felt like the same,

1027
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:50,279
Speaker 1: came up around the same time and kind of never

1028
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:52,279
Speaker 1: were good starters. Well, I guess Ian Kennedy had that

1029
00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:55,319
Speaker 1: one year with the Diamondbacks, so that's not true, and

1030
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:55,759
Speaker 1: he had.

1031
00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:58,960
Speaker 3: A nice relief career anyway. Yeah, so Mark, I believe that.

1032
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:00,640
Speaker 3: I believe you're the loser of this one.

1033
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:03,839
Speaker 1: So we'll check the tapes. Check the tapes, and we'll

1034
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:08,040
Speaker 1: see I got the last I got the last two right,

1035
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:10,040
Speaker 1: I think I I think I got three correct and

1036
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:11,399
Speaker 1: two wrong. I think I answered five.

1037
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:13,680
Speaker 3: You were going but you were going backwards, so that

1038
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:15,920
Speaker 3: that comes out to a grand total of one. It's

1039
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:16,359
Speaker 3: all right.

1040
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:17,920
Speaker 1: I think James has one too. I think he got

1041
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:18,359
Speaker 1: one wrong.

1042
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:21,040
Speaker 3: I think I got or three seven of them.

1043
00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:23,480
Speaker 2: It's our numbers, so check check the tapes.

1044
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 3: We'll check the tapes. But yeah, I'm really excited for

1045
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 3: the surprise next week when I see you guys in person.

1046
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:31,320
Speaker 3: So that'll be great. And next time we talk, hopefully

1047
00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:34,880
Speaker 3: the USA is marching on beat the Dutch day eight much.

1048
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:38,600
Speaker 1: And I like that. I'm stealing it.

1049
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 3: There you go, and I'll talk to you guys next time.

1050
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:44,279
Speaker 1: John. As always, it's a pleasure. We will see on

1051
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:46,319
Speaker 1: the next episode, just like we'll see you guys. That's

1052
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:48,200
Speaker 1: where we're wrapping it up. We are done here on

1053
00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:50,440
Speaker 1: the METSU podcast. Make sure you're following us on all

1054
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:53,160
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1055
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:54,759
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1056
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1057
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1058
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1059
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1060
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:07,960
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1061
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1062
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Speaker 1: on Twitter.

1063
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:14,520
Speaker 2: At James Underscore Siano.

1064
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:16,480
Speaker 1: And follow me at draffnick Mark with a C. Thank

1065
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:18,440
Speaker 1: you guys for listening and watching. Hopefully we have some

1066
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:20,719
Speaker 1: big news the next time. If not, we'll keep talking

1067
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:22,719
Speaker 1: about anything that's going on in the Mets baseball world.

1068
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:25,080
Speaker 1: Thanks for listening. Peace, Peace that guys.

1069
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Speaker 2: See you next time. Get up, Get up, Get up,